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Anthony Fauci “has no clue and no authority to lecture on what is good for India”

Colin Todhunter

In light of the current COVID-related situation in India, Dr Anthony Fauci, the top US adviser on COVID, has called for India to implement a hard lockdown and for the mass roll-out of vaccines.

However, Fauci “has no clue and no authority to lecture on what is good for India”.

That is the view of journalist Ratna Chakraborty. Writing on the Empire Diaries website, she argues that the US is a rich nation, prints the world’s reserve currency, has robust financial coverage for the jobless and its population is spread out.

On the other hand, India is finance-strained, has a brittle economy that lives on the brink of disaster, does not have any financial coverage for the jobless, is densely populated and its people mostly live in congested clusters.

Given the government’s incompetence and the callousness demonstrated towards poorer sections of Indian society the first time around, Chakraborty says any new lockdown would again result in disaster. She adds that nothing has been learnt, with no attempt to upgrade the healthcare set-up nationwide.

It is worth recalling what renowned academic and activist Noam Chomsky said about India’s first lockdown.

During an interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! back in May 2020, Chomsky said:

…you can almost describe it as genocidal. Modi gave, I think, a four-hour warning before a total lockdown. That’s (affected) over a billion people. Some of them have nowhere to go.”

He added:

People in the informal economy, which is a huge number of people, are just cast out. Go walk back to your village, which may be a thousand miles away. Die on the roadside. This is a huge catastrophe in the making…”

During the first lockdown in India, rural affairs commentator P Sainath painted a dreary picture of the impacts, not least the desperate plight of migrant workers, a shortage of cash to buy food and a potential shortage of food as farmers were unable to complete their harvests.

Sainath also reported the views of Dr. Sundararaman, a former executive director of the National Health Systems Resources Centre, who argued that there was a desperate need to:

identify and act on the reverse migrations problem and the loss of livelihoods. Failing that, deaths from diseases that have long tormented mostly poor Indians could outstrip those brought about by the corona virus.”

Regardless of the destructive impact of the first lockdown in India and the questionable efficacy of lockdowns in terms of what they are supposed to achieve, another one would further push hundreds of millions towards poverty and hunger. It would merely fuel and accelerate the impoverishment caused by the first lockdown.

A new report prepared by the Centre for Sustainable Employment at Azim Premji University (APU) has highlighted how employment and income had not recovered to pre-pandemic levels even by late 2020.

The report, State of Working India 2021 – One year of Covid-19, highlights how almost half of formal salaried workers moved into the informal sector and that 230 million people fell below the national minimum wage poverty line.

Even before COVID, India was experiencing its longest economic slowdown since 1991 with weak employment generation, uneven development and a largely informal economy.

A recent article by the Research Unit for Political Economy highlights the structural weaknesses of the economy and the often desperate plight of ordinary people.

The study also found that there was a loss in monthly earnings for all types of workers: 13% for casual workers, 18% for the self-employed, 17% for those with temporary salaries, 5% for the permanent salaried and 17% overall.

The poorest 25% of households borrowed 3.8 times their median income, as against 1.4 times for the top 25%. The study noted the implications for debt traps.

Six months later, it was also noted that food intake was still at lockdown levels for 20% of vulnerable households.

How bad is COVID?

Given this impact, before listening to prominent individuals with apparent conflicts of interest related to vaccine roll-outs (see the editorial in the British Medical Journal ‘Covid-19, Politicisation, Corruption, and Suppression of Science’), the current COVID-related situation in India must be contextualised. The sensationalism needs to be put to one side.

According to Yohan Tengra, a Mumbai-based political analyst and healthcare specialist, the true number of infection rates can only be known by testing symptomatic people who have tested positive with either a virus culture test or PCR test that uses 24 cycles or less.

The PCR test has been used as the gold standard for COVID cases around the world. But it has been sharply criticised for being inaccurate, inappropriate, for using cycles in excess of 40 (thereby inflating the numbers) and for producing ‘false positives’.

It seems that even the Swedish Ministry of Health now thinks that it is not fit for purpose:

The PCR technology used in tests to detect viruses cannot distinguish between viruses capable of infecting cells and viruses that have been neutralised by the immune system and therefore these tests cannot be used to determine whether someone is contagious or not. RNA from viruses can often be detected for weeks (sometimes months) after the illness but does not mean that you are still contagious.”

We also need to be reminded what the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stated about the PCR in December 2020. It is especially important to focus on PCR testing because these tests are the entire basis for restrictions and lockdowns (and vaccination); even when deaths were within normal annual ranges, ‘case’ levels were high and restrictions and ‘tiered lockdowns’ were still being imposed in places like the UK.

The following extract can be found on page 39 of the report from the CDC 2010-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel:

Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms. This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.”

Perfectly healthy people are being tested and small often insignificant fragments of flu, common cold or some other virus can be detected. People are then labelled as a COVID ‘case’.

But that is not all. In their recent article ‘The Nuremberg Doctors Trial and Modern Medicine’s Panic Promotion of the FDA’s Experimental and Unapproved COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines’, Dr Gary G Kohls and Professor Michel Chossudovsky state that – with regard to the so-called ‘emergency use authorization’ (EUA) of COVID-19 vaccines – it is now established and confirmed by the WHO (January 20, 2021) that the entire data base pertaining to tabulation of confirmed positive cases (RT-PCR test) (since early February 2020 in 193 member states of the UN) is invalid.

The two authors note that this flawed methodology cannot be used to confirm the existence of an emergency situation. EUA criterion is therefore not only invalid but illegal.

Furthermore, there is currently decent scientific evidence to indicate asymptomatic transmission may not be significant.

According to Tengra, the case numbers being reported in India are mainly asymptomatic cases. The directors of the All India Institute of Medical Science and the India Council of Medical Research both say that there are many more asymptomatic cases this time than in the so-called ‘first wave’.

As these ‘cases’ comprise most of India’s case numbers, we should therefore be questioning the data as well as the PCR tests being used to detect the virus.

Tengra says the case fatality rate for COVID-19 in India was over 3% last year but has now dropped to below 1.5%. The infection fatality rate is even lower, with serosurvey results showing them to be between 0.05% to 0.1%.

As has occurred in many other countries, Tengra notes the way that death certificate guidelines are structured in India makes it easy for someone to be labelled as a COVID death just based on a positive PCR test or general symptoms. It is therefore often difficult to say who has died from the virus and who has been misdiagnosed.

We should also bear in mind that respiratory diseases like TB and respiratory tract infections such as bronchitis leading to pneumonia are major killers in India. These conditions are severely aggravated by air pollution and often require oxygen which can be in short supply during air pollution crises in places like Delhi at this time of the year.

Therefore, the current harrowing scenes we see in the media might not necessarily be due to the lethality of the virus but by the numbers who are ending up in hospital.

Vaccines

If the pandemic narrative has been constructed on the house of (statistical) cards outlined thus far, then we should be questioning the need for a mass vaccination campaign, which could actually lead to aggravating the current situation.

This is not lost on Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, a virologist who has held positions at several vaccine companies, carrying out vaccine research and development. He has also been involved with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and has worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI). Not an ‘anti-vaxxer’ in any sense of the term.

He offers insight into why it is quite possible that mass vaccine rollouts will actually lead to very disturbing levels of deaths directly related to COVID-19. Far from reducing the numbers and facilitating immunity, he anticipates ‘vaccine assisted immune escape’.

Vanden Bossche warns that mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants. He offers a truly worrying scenario. Of course, not everyone might agree with his analysis but it is certainly a cause for concern.

There is also the entire issue regarding the necessity, efficacy and safety of the vaccines now being rolled out. The group ‘Doctors for COVID Ethics’ has recently raised serious doubts in all of these areas (its concerns have been published on the UK-based OffGuardian website).

In finishing, there are two questions we should ask.

Can we have confidence in science and evidence-based health and social policy where COVID-19 is concerned? And can we just assume – as governments and the media imply we should – that Anthony Fauci and the pharmaceutical corporations have ordinary people’s interests at heart?

In response to the first question, not much. In response to the second, certain interests have been riding and fuelling a wave of sensationalism and duplicity throughout.

Colin Todhunter is an independent journalist who writes on development, environmental issues, politics, food and agriculture. In August 2018 he was named as one of 400 Living Peace and Justice Leaders and Models by Transcend Media Services, in recognition of his journalism.

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FREESPIRIT
FREESPIRIT
May 28, 2021 9:13 PM

India is the PERFECT land to BRING BACK COMMON LAW and the TRUE FREE MARKET.

Common Law is the LAW of the PEOPLE wherein you can only be punished,so-to-speak, for using THEFT or VIOLENCE against other people.

All other, so-called, Laws, which are actually STATUTORY Rules,Mandates and Orders, are nonsense and simply designed to take money from the (usually) poorer people for minor offenses, agasint those statutes, such as the recent nonsense,”COVID” and license fees for anything the Government idiots can think of to make money for Government etcetera.

Then allow the FREE MARKET to reign supreme, which will bring out the intelelligence, creativity and ambition of the Poor people, giving them the sufficient income of self -employment.

Don Quixote
Don Quixote
May 27, 2021 3:16 AM

How is this not a rinse-and-repeat of what was already done elsewhere? Hard lock-down, then attribute the inevitable rise in all-cause morbidity to the favorite virus.

Jack Hamilton
Jack Hamilton
May 21, 2021 5:28 AM

The title of this article should have read “Anthony Fauci “has no clue and no authority to lecture on what is good for anyone, anywhere, anytime!”

GKN
GKN
May 20, 2021 10:33 AM

Also heard that India experienced a plummet in cases by actually treating them – with Ivermectin, just like Latin America did. But of course, very difficult to find anything in the media on that, as usual.

Btw, this link to VAERS at the US Dept of Health needs to be much more widely known – the Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System, which shows over 4,000 reported deaths so far (from all the vaccines, not just J&J) – among nearly 200,000 “adverse effects”! And that’s just in the US, and just “reported” cases. A great many people don’t know of the site. https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

platon
platon
May 16, 2021 6:16 PM

The Plandemic has been, and will continue to be a raging success in its unstated goal; population reduction and control through genocide of the human population.
The predictable, and once again unstated, effects of lockdowns will be; birthrate decline through ‘social distancing’ and mental health decline and, more usefully as the article intimates, a planned and inevitable global famine.

rose
rose
May 17, 2021 9:11 PM
Reply to  platon

India current crisis is due to a rare fungal infection that has nothing to do with Covid-19 infections or vaccines (which are contributing to injuries and morbidities as well):

India Death Rate Climbed After Covid-19 Vaccine Program Started, Deadly Fungal Infections Occurring
https://www.unite4truth.com/post/india-death-rate-climbed-after-covid-19-vaccine-program-deadly-fungal-infections-occurring

charles kint
charles kint
May 16, 2021 1:16 AM

time and time again we have been fooled, and have taken it “lead hook and sinker”
Our leaders can’t be wrong, that is just off the table! or is it???

We don’t need this technology, automation, meeting in “zoom” and ” world economic forum” !
What kind of society comes in the trail of this “epidemic” all being sold to us by ignorant and yes even criminal media and big tech censors who determine what community guide lines are
We have to think out of the box, or else end up in it prematurely!

Tony
Tony
May 15, 2021 9:34 PM

Fauci is relying on his sponsors now. He might well be thrown to the wolves.

platon
platon
May 16, 2021 6:17 PM
Reply to  Tony

Fauci deserves crocodiles.

Ed Grodzki
Ed Grodzki
May 15, 2021 2:50 PM

just search indian street food on utube to see clowndemic!

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 15, 2021 12:31 PM

This whole pandemic in a nutshell, WHO recommended fake test invented without any virus that doesn’t diagnose anything to be run at 45 ct, FDA recommended 40+ – In January this year WHO stated they are not diagnostic and should be run at 30-35 ct, ergo the entire load of statistical data is bollocks.

Ryan Matters
Ryan Matters
May 15, 2021 9:20 AM

I wouldn’t trust that Dr. Bossche to tell me the time in a room full of clocks.

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 3:39 AM

Anthony Fauci “has no clue”

FIFY

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
May 15, 2021 1:22 AM

Good old Dr. Idiot. Still not sure why everyone is afraid to question the veracity of his so called science. Everything he recommends is base purely on anecdotal information. No science at all. All he does is say I think and never presents any scientific facts or studies to back himself up. When Rand Paul recently went after him about his connections to funding controversial work in China and the United States he simply said you are wrong and provided no documentation to support his statements. It is constant. I never saw any follow up after that discussion. Weak on both sides of the issue. The PCR testing is simply stupid. All of the new information that has surfaced about the validity of the PCR test is simply ignored while the original Ferguson pandemic model is still the guide. Makes no sense whatsoever. It seems like everyone is blinded by the fear of “what if”. What if. What if the sky falls.

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 3:44 AM

He works for Gates, the world’s foremost microbiologist, pandemic expert, vaccine expert, secretary expert, hooker expert, socially inept expert and soon to be divorcee expert. Oh, and he has lots of money for which a certain strain of people, suck as Fucky, will do anything to get just a drip, like piglets fighting over a teat.

Znof_ehT
Znof_ehT
May 16, 2021 9:47 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I’ll destroy Billy Boy on the social inept front. Money cannot bye love, but being a so called loser can get u rattled to perform ineptitudes socializing

GKN
GKN
May 20, 2021 10:49 AM

Worse than stupid, he seems more likely to be lying for Big Pharma’s purposes – to make billions off that dangerous vaccine. After all, the world is over-populated right? But God forbid we gag the anti-contraceptive religious leaders, and mobs. However, I’m still stunned Rand Paul did not provide HIS evidence, since it’s out there. Is he just pretending to contest? Or does he need a new staff? Here’s one article, someone thought to screen shot before goog took it down like all the rest: https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZDMOeXZ1tfgmMMV3wuVec52mOaVsQcpaqw7

This shows another about 13 mns in, and I’m sure there were more. So WTH?  

MaryLS
MaryLS
May 15, 2021 1:09 AM

I would like to know a lot more about the circumstances of Kary Mullis’s death. He was definitely someone to be got rid of if they were going to pull this off. Claim was that he died of pneumonia. Had he been sick?

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 3:51 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Very, very, impossibly convenient death just months before the scam started … remember the people dying in the streets of Wuhan and a “disappeared” doctor – always good to have a disappeared doctor to add some weight – and the welding of people into their apartments … the doctor is probably now living on some ranch in Hawaii.

PCR was definitely the single most important element of the scam: no fake test, no scam. Kary Mullis despised Fucky, so I doubt he would have shut up.

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2021 7:46 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

The doctor was an eye doctor who spread medical opinion outside his speciality and outside lines of reporting. Welding doors (gates?) shut when you can lock them is moronic. No source, date or time so far for the photos of corpses on th streets; actually, you only have to look closely at the idiotic photos. No response so far from the Empire to China’s demands for med. data on the earliest infections (patient #1) in the Empire; only repeated slander.

GrievingGod
GrievingGod
May 14, 2021 6:09 PM

Future Imperfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs-DBOFWCpc

June 2009, in the midst of the swine flu breakout the World Health Organization defangs their working definition of ‘pandemic’ by removing the requirement of “enormous numbers of deaths and illnesses”.

Like magic, the WHO can now declare pandemics far more easily triggering billion dollar contracts with pharmaceutical companies–and it does so… with the already in-progress swine-flu outbreak.

April 2015, in a Ted Talk Bill Gates predicts, “If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it’s most likely to be a highly infectious virus rather than a war”.

February 2017, Dr. Fauci promises, “there is no question that there will be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases … there will be a surprise outbreak”.

Mid 2019, Dr. Fauci directs a total of $7.4 million in funding from NIAID to a lab in Wuhan China with some of the funds set aside to study ‘gain of function research’ for corona-viruses–making them far more infectious and deadly to human beings.

http://tritorch.com/PCR.png

August 2019, Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test used to detect COVID-19 dies of pneumonia.

Kary, who was openly critical of Dr. Fauci – calling him a fraud who has no problem lying to the American people and who, “doesn’t know anything about anything” – said many times that his PCR test could not be used to diagnose an illness.

Regardless, his PCR test was the primary test used to diagnose C-19, with the New York times later admitting that the non-test likely had a false positive rate in the neighborhood of 90%. This test was used to measure cases and cases were used to justify the lockdowns which severely wounded the world economy.

October 2019, the WEF and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation host a pandemic simulation called ‘Event 201’ with dozens of corporate, political, and media participants scripting and acting out their response in the event a real one occurred.

November 2019, less than 2 months later in Wuhan China, C-19 enters the world stage and spreads rapidly across the globe leaving extreme economic havoc in its wake.

http://tritorch.com/klausVader.jpg

June 2020, stereotypical Bond villain and leader of the WEF, Klaus Schwab releases his book, ‘COVID-19: The Great Reset’, a communistic creed describing a future where our biology will be merged with computers and AI. The WEF’s stated goal on their website and YouTube channel is, “by 2030 you will own nothing, have no privacy, and you will be happy”.

http://tritorch.com/ownNothing.png

November 2020, Klaus Schwab releases a video of himself and a colleague warning that a global cyber pandemic is inevitable and that when it arrives it will shut down power grids across the world causing havoc that will far exceed the havoc already caused by the C-19 pandemic.

http://tritorch.com/solarNightmare.png

December 2020, Solar Winds – a giant cyber security firm whose security suite is installed on many of the major government and corporate networks across the first world – announces a catastrophic security breach in which hackers injected a back door into Solar Wind’s codebase, which was then distributed to all of their clients during the next update cycle–granting the hackers access to all of those systems. Rootkits were then deployed granting full undetectable control. This event now gives cover for the hacking of the world’s power grids due to the fact that those systems have been compromised by “bad actors”.

http://tritorch.com/geoengineering.png

February 2021, an extremely rare black swan winter storm freezes Texas to near zero causing an extremely rare power grid failure across the state.

http://tritorch.com/everGiven.png

March 2021, the EverGiven – a ship the size of four city blocks – charts a cock and balls GPS course across the sea before securely lodging itself sideways in the Suez canal thereby clogging up the world’s most important shipping lane for six days—an event so rare it has only happened 5 times since the canal’s opening in 1869.

May 2021, bad actors launch a cyber-attack against the computer systems of Colonial Pipeline – the largest pipeline in the United States which supplies 48% of the fuel requirements of the eastern seaboard of the country – causing it to go offline. Despite a number of spills due to negligence causing shutdowns throughout the years, this cyber-attack event was so rare that it has never happened before.

July 2021, the WEF has scheduled a cyber pandemic simulation with political, business, and media leaders in the same vein as their Event 201 virus pandemic simulation. This event is titled CyberPolygon…

GKN
GKN
May 20, 2021 11:03 AM
Reply to  GrievingGod

GrievingGod, I would love to have the link to that NYT article admitting the PCR had a false positive rate in the neighborhood of 90%! I know many who won’t believe anything they don’t read in the NYT! Did you keep it? Please share if so!

john R
john R
May 23, 2021 6:45 AM
Reply to  GKN

nytimes.com/2020/8/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

Penny
Penny
May 14, 2021 5:37 PM

Have you seen the Greta knock off in India?
India’s Greta Thunberg Knock-off Appeals to the West For Intervention/Meddling in India
India is being targeted for destabilization. I’m as certain of that as I can be based on information that’s available. Anthony Fauci is doing the work of the overlords.

dr death
dr death
May 14, 2021 7:18 PM
Reply to  Penny

correct, they are after the agriculture..

Penny
Penny
May 14, 2021 8:39 PM
Reply to  dr death

I think it’s a bit more then that- though I will not disagree that is part of it.

Ort
Ort
May 14, 2021 10:11 PM
Reply to  Penny

Anthony “Doctor Doom” Fauci is Dr. Josef Mengele, J. Edgar Hoover, and Bernie Madoff rolled up into one mega-monster. With that pedigree, he’s bound to be doing the work of the overlords.

Fred B
Fred B
May 14, 2021 5:21 PM

It is now a proven fact that the vaccines were never necessary to make anyone “safe”. In fact, the evidence coming in is that they are more dangerous than the virus. Why would our governments be so anxious to put at risk all people under 60 and especially our children, who were never at any serious risk from the virus in the first place. As for the older and more frail people the successful HCQ and Ivermectin treatment protocols for anyone at risk or seriously sick proved again that the vaccines were not necessary for anyone. Our governments suppressed these treatment protocols with fake news and government intrusion into medical practice, and in many places, they are still restricting these protocols to enforce their vaccinations. Why would any government risk their people with such vaccines which even they alleged are not tested? In such a climate where our governments have not and will not explain any of these discrepancies without generating more lies, of course people are going to wonder why such a push for the vaccines? 

It cannot be explained that it is mainly money through big pharma with trillions to be made, and everyone in the lockstep Covid power structure just wants to fill their pockets. The top-down discipline is too great for that. In the US the focus for the past few days has been on Fauci and his many conflicts of interest. However, this is only the tip if the iceberg because the imposition of this vaccination program is networked all around the world and is linked directly to the World Economic Forum and the banking cartel potentiates. The question is – why are they so anxious for everyone to receive these vaccines when they know they are not necessary to make people safe from the virus?   

If they are not tested, then why put anyone at risk?
If they are tested, then they know of the real risks and why are they not telling us? 

There certainly is something much worse than just criminality for monetary gain going on here. It does not make sense that the governments would push them so hard while knowing them to be totally unnecessary. It does not make sense the governments would risk any of the elites or themselves. These observations lead to other questions. 

Is the purpose of the vaccines to protect people from something else to come? If so, they would know what is to come just as they likely knew the Covid virus was coming even before 2019, and if another more virulent virus was to be released, then if they really wanted to protect people, then instead of giving them a vaccine why not just prevent the release? However, we cannot trust them for any such foresight, and besides, these vaccines were allegedly developed for the Covid 19 virus only, which already has allegedly mutated (likely dissipated) making the vaccines even more unnecessary and useless for that purpose. 

The next question raised is if the vaccines are not to protect us or to make us safe from anything to come and they are not just to milk us of our fiat money (as considered in the above), then what are they supposed to do to us? We tend to think the worse which may be true. However, the elites would never hurt them selves. Yet, this does not mean they would necessarily refrain from hurting us or various segments of the population they regard as no longer useful, which raises the legitimate question regarding the variety of vaccines out there and exactly what is in them? We the people have no way to test not only for the long-term effects of the vaccines that is a reason in itself to refuse them. More so, we have no way to test what is actually in the vaccines and to determine if in fact people like our government bureaucrats and leading politicians, as well as people like Gates, Schwab and Fauci, are actually getting same stuff as an Arab in Israel or a 60 year only in the UK on the dole. 

Animal studies with a particular Coronavirus and various vaccinations have shown a lethal susceptibility to the next Coronavirus mutation to come along – all vaccinated animals dying.  

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 6:05 PM
Reply to  Fred B

I’ve read pretty much the same thing like 100 times.

The unspoken implication that the governments are after people, that they want to depopulate the world, that six billion people will day. The usual shit.

I can imagine that in the sick mind of some sick motherfucker, this could be the plan. The robots will do most of the work, there will be a certain population of genetically modified, completely docile slaves, and a relatively small yet big enough population of the privileged organic humans. I’m sure the fucks are psychopathic enough to envisage something like this and even work toward it. I can also imagine that a plan like this will mostly likely backfire or go astray somewhere along the way because there are just too many people and unpredictable factors involved.

Anyway, the infrastructure for anything like that is simply not ready now. There are no robots to take over most tasks and bumping off large chunks of the population would throw the world into chaos, that might take the aforementioned fucks along. The world is not ready for transition to the state portrayed above.

Hence, the fact that some people are dying/having adverse effects after the vaccines can hardly be an indication that the vaccine is intended to kill people, within a year or two as some claim. That’s batshit fucking crazy.

Could the genetic nature of this treatment be a start toward depopulation, an effort to fuck with the global population? I can well imagine that efforts to that effect might take place. But that can happen in dozens of other ways too.

The way I see it is that posts like the one above are intended to fuck people up, to induce fear, to steer people away from rational thinking. They endlessly reiterate “we’re fucked”, “they’re after us”. Keep people from formulating positive thoughts, from looking for alternatives, seeking ways toward better future.

Fuck this doomsday pessimistic shit. Enough already! I’m sick of this constant paranoid whining and I urge people to stop looking for yet another confirmation of how fucked up things are and focus on doing something about it, finding solutions, looking to the future.

John Crowther
John Crowther
May 14, 2021 8:14 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Well said I couldn’t have put it better myself so sick of all this doomsday negative apocalyptic paranoid horseshit myself why give it attention and focus on it like the doom mongers are obsessed with doing time now to look for positive solutions to start pushing back against this insanity

David Meredith
David Meredith
May 14, 2021 10:39 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The infrastructure may not be ready but there are many in the elite groups who think now is the time to depopulate. The current vaccines are just the start. Please don’t be naïve, are you not having some thoughts about the astonishing speed which things are happening? We are in a whirlwind of fearmongering, hysteria and experimental biological agents being dressed up as “safe effective vaccines” when they are anything but. I just don’t get people who are being told what is happening and the still cannot see the elephant in the room. Can you not see the drive for a new “sustainable” planet with everything digitally controlled and tracked? Mass depopulation is a real plan. Bill Gates buying up 100s of thousands of acres of farmland, he wants us all to be eating synthetic beef. We have the big corporate giant sellers forcing small independent retailers out of business, with plans to take over everything from food production, goods services to medication, digital currency banking systems, satellite, GPs, 5G,6G,7G, technocratic health systems driven by pseudo scientific medical dogma and statisticians? Can you not see it straight in front of you? And now we have health passports heading our way. The new vaccine technologies including nano-technologies, open up a huge opportunity for full access and control of human health and immunity to whatever the global elite controllers choose to do with us. The year 2020 is the kick off, the year 2030 is the supposed completion date.

Jacques
Jacques
May 15, 2021 7:28 AM
Reply to  David Meredith

Now you’ve mixed apples with oranges and added some shit and piss for a good measure.

I’m certainly not naive and I can see a lot of things, lot of dangers.

You might wanna ask yourself why Billy the Peddler of Shite Software wants people to eat lab-grown meat if he wants to depopulate. How does that fit together? According to your take on what he’s after, people are supposed to be dead, not eating plastic burgers.

Ditto the rest of the stuff. It doesn’t make elementary sense in conjunction with depopulation. At least not in the sense of bumping people off with injections.

Yes, I’m concerned about the future. But the path to anything better doesn’t lead through incessant fucking whining how fucked up things are, how they’re after us. I’m so sick of it!!!!

So they fucking are! Man up and try to think of something!

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 15, 2021 11:34 AM
Reply to  Jacques

“Man up and try to think of something!”

Hear, hear!

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 15, 2021 10:49 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Hey Jack, I have yet to see you present anything you’ve thought of in this regard ….
then again I can only read about 200 comments before I quit. I clearly may have missed your man up practical advice …

Jacques
Jacques
May 16, 2021 6:53 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Thanks for letting me know. Keep whining about scary and how they’re after you then.

Have a nice scared shitless rest of your life.

David Meredith
David Meredith
May 17, 2021 9:07 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Apples, Oranges, Shit and Piss? Let’s hope we are still eating the former and producing the latter in 5 years time and not the other way round. As for Billy, yes depopulate does not mean getting rid of everyone. I think if the psycho-eugenicists managed a 50% result on that, they would want the lower levels, around 3 billion to be eating synthetic foods and be totally reliant on pharma to keep them alive. Any undesirable groups can be terminated by activating nano-bots injected earlier.

This stuff is not happening now but if they have their way unhindered that’s where we are heading. Plastic burgers, ha ha ha, well at least you’ve got a sense of humour, maybe the plastic cheese topping might come first (polymer cheese). Some of those ready to prepare pizzas in supermarkets look very much like cardboard with plastic cheese on top and taste just like that.

Don’t forget, bumping off people is not about bumping off everyone. They want to get rid of what they call “the useless eaters”, look up that description. Sure lets not whine about how things are but equally we shouldn’t sit idle and let the psycho-eugenicists dictate our lives.

Man up? Does that mean be an ostrich and stick our heads in the sand and pretend none of this is happening or be a sheep and get vaccinated, tagged, tracked and linked up bodily to AI. No, Manning Up is pushing back and refusing their toxic pharma, lockdown insanity and removal of liberties. Manning up is insisting on being a Man and not subscribing to their idea that really we are just herds of animals to be vaccinated, tagged, tracked and culled whenever they choose.

Time to man up and fight back, like you say Man up and try thinking of refusing their dictates.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 15, 2021 11:33 AM
Reply to  Jacques

“I’m sick of this constant paranoid whining and I urge people to stop looking for yet another confirmation of how fucked up things are and focus on doing something about it, finding solutions, looking to the future.”

Amen.

mojo
mojo
May 16, 2021 9:00 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

You’re such an arse licker. Got your tongue firmly up his Jacquesie.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
May 14, 2021 6:08 PM
Reply to  Fred B

All the points you make are valid. The unlicensed “vaccines” are lethal for some in the short term, while for others their untimely death will take a little longer.

The Covid event was always about “vaccines” and the “vaccines” were always been about reducing the global population. When the depopulator in chief, is behind all of the “vaccines” currently being used in the west, then alarm bells should have been ringing for all of us.

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 4:02 AM
Reply to  Fred B

The scary thing is how the neo Nazis seem to be able to coordinate all governments and their policies, many of which are simply ridiculous, all over the world without a single country standing up and really pushing back.

For a start, not one country has come forward to ask the logical question which is “why are we taking this vaccine?”. It appears to be anti-viral medicine, in other words the sort of thing you can take once you start getting sick, the sort of thing that has existed for over half a century for malaria and is taken orally. This is the first “anti-viral” faux vaccine, yet not one country is pushing back.

Plenty of reason to be worried, but don’t over do it and assume that we know what is going to happen. It will be bad enough when it arrives, you can be sure of that, so enjoy while you can, before you find yourself locked up in Covid prison or much worse.

Jacques
Jacques
May 15, 2021 7:30 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

FUCK SCARY!!! FUCK WORRIED!!!

That’s exactly what they want you to be. Worried about jabs, depopulation, this and that and the other fucking thing. Just like the other half are worried about the virus, the multiple fucking mutant, the next fucking variant.

MAN UP! SHOW SOME FUCKING BALLS!

Stop whining about scary and worried.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 15, 2021 11:34 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Amen!

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 15, 2021 10:51 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Cool… how are you personally getting it up, man?

Jacques
Jacques
May 16, 2021 6:59 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

None of your business, actually. I don’t think I’ll be sharing details about my life with some random idiot on the Internet.

That being said, however, you’re worrying about the wrong thing, as usual. Instead of picking on some dimwit Jacques, worry about yourself and the fact how your myopic mind has been conveniently harnessed to the narrative of fear of vaccines, depopulation, and all the shit that people incessantly whimper about on these pages.

I don’t know if the state of mind of people here is self-induced or instigated by the endless presentation of doomsday scenarios, but it’s just as fucking malignant as the covid narrative itself.

I was trying to bring that to people’s attention, evidently to no avail. Clearly because a large chunk of anti-covidians suffer from the exact same masochism as covidians and crave being scared shitless.

David Meredith
David Meredith
May 19, 2021 8:14 PM
Reply to  Jacques

So what are you doing here if you don’t want to take part in this discussion? No one here is scared or worried, only discussing what is happening and that most people don’t realise it. It is the scared sheep who are blindly following the new authoritarian pseudo liberal agenda. We are the ones with the balls because we are pushing back and resisting as much as we can.

David Meredith
David Meredith
May 19, 2021 8:08 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

hydraulic pump

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 16, 2021 12:40 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Do I have to turn into a screaming, incoherent, keyboard warrior who “shows balls” as well? Err, no thanks.

Wombat
Wombat
May 15, 2021 4:18 AM
Reply to  Fred B

It’s the Judas Jab – the kiss of death.

NickM
NickM
May 15, 2021 8:56 AM
Reply to  Fred B

“what are they [useless and dangerous injections] supposed to do to us?”.

The Story of O. In her final degradation her lover sent a man with a wooden rod, each time a little thicker and a little longer, to enlarge her anus before handing her over to his aquaintances. It ends with O kneeling in submission to beg her lover for permission to kill herself.

dr death
dr death
May 14, 2021 4:40 PM

quite obviously none of the measures implemented for this so called ‘pandemic’ bare any resemblance to appropriate or approved methodologies…

there is no ‘real’ diagnosis because there are no autopsies being carried out on supposed ‘victims’ ( and the ones that have been slithered by stealth in california over 1500 of ’em revealed death by influenza A and B when flu had mysteriously ‘disappeared’)..

autopsy a once essential ‘protocol’ no longer deemed necessary for an obviously fake and manipulated theatrical production.. because you now die ‘with’.. something or other..

hint: the flu or if you are unfortunate enough to be old and in care.. neglect.

all that is required is pronunciation of ‘covid’ from some government approved® mendicant based on the readings left in the toilet bowl after the last flush and a special message from father christmas ..

and further more accept these proclamations as evidence enough to have your-self ‘jabbed’ with a ‘mystery bag’ of toxins.. not just you mind, everyone on the planet…

sounds kosher don’t you think ?..

kary mullis’s musings on the beady eyed homonculus-like quack fowchi make interesting reading..

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
May 14, 2021 6:19 PM
Reply to  dr death

kary mullis’s musings on the beady eyed homonculus-like quack fowchi make interesting reading.

And interesting viewing as I remember. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aISPlTLbJo

Penelope
Penelope
May 14, 2021 7:30 PM
Reply to  dr death

You wouldn’t want to supply a source for those 1500 autopsies that reveal death by influenza A & B would you?

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 15, 2021 11:01 PM
Reply to  dr death

I’ve been quite taken aback by the failure of the authorities to mandate celebrations in honor of the triumph of Science over influenza. However, an emergency is an emergency …
Aren’t these epochal victories usually market by annual festivities?
That said, I join Pen in asking dr death to source his info (which, to me sounds plausible).

TFS
TFS
May 14, 2021 4:26 PM

Did you notice something?

In America I believe that NO gain of function could be carried out.

I’ll ignore the PR/Theatre for people in the belief that this isn’t/hasn’t being carried out domestically or in one of the multitude of secret labs in places like The Ukraine.

Within the little piece restricting research into ‘GOF’, I believe there was a little ‘cop-out’ clause, and now, GOF research domestically is authorised.

Pandora’s box hasn’t just been opened, it’s been ajar for a while. The theatre of ‘exceptionalism’ still plays out for the asleep masses.

Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
May 14, 2021 8:16 PM
Reply to  TFS

“In America I believe that NO gain of function could be carried out.”

That is why the US has outsourced its bioweapons research labs to other countries. These labs are mainly in central Africa (lots of resources competed for) and countries bordering Russia/China. The agreement between host and the US ensures that the US scientists are given full diplomatic immunity (no bag searches for them) and the host has no say in what research is carried out.

At the Wuhan lab (the only BSL-4 lab in China), the US, via Fauci, funded the human side of the GOF equation. The UK’s Pirbright Institute conducted research on animal hosted disease. Fortunately, there was a fully effective ‘Chinese Wall’ between the two sides guaranteeing no crossover of knowledge.

US Bioweapons labs round the world:

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Some reports on the outbreaks of diseases in close vicinity.

https://thealtworld.com/author/dilyana_gaytandzhieva

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 15, 2021 11:05 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

I heard somewhere that the sons and grandsons of Operation Paperclip refugees are the directors of these far-flung Bioweapons Labs …
Probably fake news but worth considering …

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2021 10:01 AM
Reply to  TFS

The ban, supposedly lifted in 2017, was a sham. In 2015, scientists proudly published their achievement in damaging lung cells. 
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 3:37 PM

To lighten up things, have a listen to a song from a bygone era …

Note the verse, “this ain’t healthy, is it some kind of clean …”…

magumba
magumba
May 14, 2021 3:32 PM

For those of you who still care the PM is going to issue a statement at 5pm on the dreaded ”indian variant”

Can you still taste that carrot?…because i dont think you are going to be seeing another one for a while

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 14, 2021 2:08 PM

India have about 1400 million people, given that and what we know about healthcare etc IMO 10 million deaths a year doesn’t feel right. How about *at least* 14 million deaths a year?

Ken Garoo
Ken Garoo
May 14, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Scaled for population, the Indian covid (with/from) death rate is substantially better than that of the UK. Maybe we should be asking what they were doing right? (Hint – all was fine until mass vaccination started which was followed by a massive increase in death rate).

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2021 10:13 AM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

The press which shows you those overloaded hospitals conceals the fact that most of the “cases” are “asymptomatic”. Before the jabs arrived, the government was handing out a standard pack of medicines (maybe including invermectin). Since then, WHO seems to have expressed its displeasure with that. Two states have reportedly rebelled, and will continue to use invermectin.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 15, 2021 11:32 AM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

I’m talking about *overall* number of deaths …

David Meredith
David Meredith
May 19, 2021 8:21 PM
Reply to  Ken Garoo

That’s if you believe the stats. Remember on a scale of increasing deception we have: lies, damned lies and then covid statistics.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 14, 2021 2:01 PM

An interesting aside … the Big Pharma actors missed a golden opportunity in Italy where they could have easily assumed liability for any and all effects from their products.
In Italy, liability is a purely theoretical notion. The chances of ever paying out a Euro for malfeasance are inversely proportional to net worth.
The examples are endless. Take the the collapse of the bridge in Genoa … the perpetrators, who overlooked maintenance systematically, are still firmly ensconced and enjoying handsome profits on their Autostrada concessions. They never even apologized to the victims of the families.
Take the example of the Costa Concordia …
I’m regularly perplexed as to why more multinational corporations do not set up headquarters in Rome or Milan. Taxes may be high but the opportunity to do whatever the fuck you want are endless.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 14, 2021 2:02 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

… families of the victims …

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
May 14, 2021 12:04 PM

Can anyone on God’s Green Earth thoroughly explain how & why ANTHONY FAUCI was NOT ARRESTED within 24 hours after this absolute BOMBSHELL discussion [published on November 9, 2020] between Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and David E. Martin?

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 14, 2021 2:11 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Sure. Money and power. He’s a useful tool. Oligarchy.

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 11:20 AM

“The jab is killing people.”

I’m afraid that this statement as batshit fucking crazy as batshit fucking crazy statements that COVID-19 is killing people.

A quick look at euromomo.eu shows no increase in excess death following the introduction of CV-1984 vaccination. If the jab “were killing people”, data would have to support it. They don’t.

Now, are some people having adverse reaction to the vaccine? Dying? I’m absolutely certain. Similarly as they’re dying or are left with lasting problems after the flu. If such large numbers of people as those getting the CV vaccine were given, say, aspirin, there would be a high number of adverse reactions as well.

Am I advocating the vaccines? FUCK NO!! They’re as ridiculous as CV-1984 itself. They’re nefarious in all sorts of ways. But intended to indiscriminately kill people? Sure a possibility, but highly fucking unlikely one. Far-fucking-fetched to say the least.

What I’m advocating is RATIONALITY! In the chaos perpetually created by the fucks who run the media and the whole circus, not falling for this or that false narrative, not getting played this or that way is of paramount importance.

I strongly urge everyone to be suspicious of every-fucking-thing, however appealing it might seem. Especially if it’s appealing. Beware of confirmation bias! Question everything!

Don’t go batshit fucking crazy about nothing.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 14, 2021 11:36 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Who needs to go batshit crazy, when we’re SWIMMING in it.

“Governors Golden Ticket: Everything we know about Ohios $1 Million Vaccination Sweepstakes”

https://www.kcrg.com/2021/05/12/governors-golden-ticket-everything-we-know-about-ohios-1-million-vaccination-sweepstakes/

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 12:31 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

This is exactly the kind of stuff the consumption whereof will make you go batshit fucking crazy and impair your judgment.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 14, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  Jacques

There are approx 10K dead in Europe and 1K in the Uk with half a million adverse reactions in the UK alone to both vaccines. That isn’t batshit crazy its evident of a serious problem. Any other vaccine that has come close to the numbers above has been halted and removed from circulation. That that is not happening with the current rollout should also raise a big red flag.

The numbers of people who have registered adverse reactions and have probably died within 28 days of receiving a vaccine is also probably vastly under reported. So the figures above are probably the tip of an iceberg. I know 2 people who have had the vaccine both have been ill one for 2.5 months who very nearly died. None had heard of the yellow card system.

I agree with the point on rationality but that cuts both ways. When the vaccine rollout is causing the problems that it apparently is its not the time to stop questioning things however mistaken some of the conclusions might be.

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 12:30 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

If you read again what I wrote above, you’ll see that I acknowledge that the alleged vaccine is bad in more ways than I can enumerate. I would be mostly concerned about long-term effects and implications.

The statement “the jab is killing people”, however, is batshit fucking crazy. Data simply don’t support it.

As to the reference to other vaccines, not sure if there ever was a new one administered on a scale comparable to this shit and what the outcomes were. You have a data on that? Comparable percentages? Anything rational, substantiated?

The point I’m making here is that as people demand that advocates of COVID stick to facts and hard data, so need they in respect of the vaccination.

The rational person needs to keep his options open, consider all possibilities and – above all – refrain from going BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY like the rest of the world.

I don’t know how much more clearly I could say this.

Maxwell
Maxwell
May 14, 2021 1:24 PM
Reply to  Jacques

At present in the US the deaths related to the “Covid vaccines” after only 5 months stands at slightly above 4,000.

This exceeds the vaccine death totals due to ALL vaccines over the past 20 years in the US. This is from the official VAERS system which grossly under reports, capturing only around 1% of adverse events as noted by the HHS itself.

Adverse events are well over 100,000 in the US- again this is through VAERS and using those figures which they admit are grossly under reported.

This will be updated later today. Easy for you to look up.

Eudra-Vigilance is the European tracking system- you can look at those.

So yes the levels of carnage from these mRNA monstrosities is unprecedented.

Not sure what you’re on about.

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 3:16 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

I acknowledge that as there is a tendency to inflate the number of alleged CV-1984 deaths, there might be a tendency to under-report the number of adverse reactions/death due to vaccination, but the figures are such a mess that the only thing that matters is overall mortality. If you don’t trust covid numbers you should be doubtful about vaccination numbers too. Apply the same skeptical standard.

Data show that vaccination has not caused a rise. On the contrary.

I do agree that just about everything regarding the vaccines stinks real bad, as per what I wrote above, but stating that the “jabs are killing people” with the implication that it’s intentional is BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY.

itsmeagain
itsmeagain
May 14, 2021 6:36 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

This link – is based on VAERS
but it compares to other ‘vaccines’ (Pfizer and the other are more ‘injections’ of sorts)
but anyway – interesting charts
https://principia-scientific.com/the-deadly-covid-19-vaccine-cover-up/

Donnie
Donnie
May 14, 2021 2:44 PM
Reply to  Jacques

just imagine for one minute that all the still unstabbed people go “bat-shit-fuck-in-crazy” and flatly refuse to get the stab, Who will win and who will lose in such scenario? Let’s say we all agree with you that vaxxines are not made to kill people instantly or maybe even within 3-5 years. If people will refuse to take the vaxxine anyway- will they make a grave mistake? Or, can it be claimed that those vaxxines will prevent people from getting coroni, with fatality rate around 0.000001%?. Why should people be bothered over such desease? Why the vaxxine then? Again- if people will go “shit-crazy-bat-fucking” and refuse the vaxxine- who will be harmed? Would you complain that your dog guarding your house from burglars barks too loud?

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 3:28 PM
Reply to  Donnie

In no way whatsoever do I deny that the alleged vaccines are utterly nonsensical, possibly harmful (as a minimum due to their experimental nature), quite likely steering humankind toward even greater dependency on pharma-fucks, opening the door to genetic manipulations, quite likely nefarious, malevolent, and detrimental to man in all sorts of other ways.

I totally encourage everyone to tell the vaccinators to shove the fucking things up their ass.

At the same time, I think that claims that the vaccines will kill everybody in a year or two and that their purpose is to reduce the world’s population by six billion are BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY.

All I’m trying to do is to encourage people to question whatever conclusions they might be jumping to. For these conclusions might be BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY.

What we have now is one, slightly bigger, half of the world being scared shitless of COVID, and the other are scared shitless of the vaccines. Every-fucking-body is scared shitless. Isn’t perhaps that the objective?

I ain’t letting nobody to scare me shitless or BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY.

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 4:25 AM
Reply to  Jacques

BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY

A new brand of home made alcohol, maybe vodka?

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
May 14, 2021 3:25 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Agree with some comments. Definitely keep an open mind. But should not dismiss because too unthinkable.

The apparent danger mentioned by Sucharit Bhati and others also refers to possibilities down the line when vaccinated exposed again to virus. What strikes me is the range of affects, not necessarily the number, which likely to be massively under reported. But agree, be cautious but wide awake to the possibility, intended or otherwise. And I have heard of people dying of clot/stroke issues months after injection. Keep curious. As time goes on clearer patterns should emerge.

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 3:48 PM
Reply to  Loverat 8

I’ve seen mad professor Bhati and I totally do acknowledge what he’s saying. I also encourage everyone to err on the paranoid side. Absolutely.

However, there is a lot of confirmation bias happening on these pages, there is a certain degree of paranoia that steers people toward stuff that supports what they wanna hear. A bit of masochism too, as if some people liked wallowing in this doomsday shit.

I’m simply playing the devil’s advocate.

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 4:27 AM
Reply to  Jacques

A sensible comment at last.

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
May 14, 2021 12:32 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Are you O.K.? You normally make sense.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 1:54 PM
Reply to  Jacques

[A quick look at euromomo.eu shows no increase in excess death following the introduction of CV-1984 vaccination. If the jab “were killing people”, data would have to support it. They don’t.]

You will not be liked here for stating that.

You see, many people here claim they see the “truth,” but too many of their alternate “truths” are not, in fact, the truth – yet those “truths” have become the alternate religious dogma of a number of commenters’ here.

Expect knee-jerk reactions (like downvoting) from those sheeple here, who are often just as sheeple as the sheeple they continually decry.

[What I’m advocating is RATIONALITY!]

Thank you. And long may you continue doing so. But sadly I have learned not to expect much progress using rationality against emotional beliefs.

PS. I explicitly add the quantifier “many” to my above observations, since it most certainly does not apply to all commenters here. I still enjoy the numerous, erudite informed observers here, and wish to express my appreciation for their openness and refusal to be dragged down by the more dogmatic others.

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 3:19 PM
Reply to  suddyan

Something like that.

I can see that even some of the commenters here who usually make sensible observations have a tendency to veer toward the BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY side, and the devil’s advocate in me has deemed it necessary to speak out.

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2021 10:30 AM
Reply to  suddyan
Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 14, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Your references to bat shit brought up this little ditty from 10/2013

“Feed them bat guano, till they all sing soprano.”
– Paul Vonharnish –

Jose Vieira
Jose Vieira
May 14, 2021 9:29 PM
Reply to  Jacques

No Brasil nao temos acesso ao numero de mortes como o euromormo. Mas em 2020 “sem vacinaçao” “210.000 de cobiça” o numero de mortos é menor que este ano. Em 2021 “com vacinaçao ” em 5 meses ja morreram “230.000 de cobiça” se seguir nessa projeçao morrera mais que o dobro do que o ano passado.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2021 2:26 AM
Reply to  Jose Vieira
Jose Vieira, Estou na Califórnia, onde as pessoas ainda são obrigadas a usar máscaras.
Diga-nos: a maioria dos brasileiros acredita que a Covid é tão mortal quanto dizem as autoridades? Muitas pessoas sabem o quão perigosa é a vacinação?

Minha própria pesquisa sobre o zika foi que a microcefalia foi causada por uma vacinação diferente. O que você acha?

Cumprimentos,
Niki
Niki
May 15, 2021 12:02 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Impact of COVID-19 vaccination on mortalityMay 13, 2021
Mordechai Sones

https://youtu.be/xSrc_s2Gqfw

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 15, 2021 4:22 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Troll. Of course the vaccine is killing people, all vaccines kill people, that has been a well known fact for a very, very long time. You can argue about how many they kill, but not about whether it happens. As for whether Covid is killing people, that is harder because Covid is not administered in a controlled environment, unlike the vaccine.

Jacques
Jacques
May 15, 2021 7:36 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Shove the “troll” up your stupid ass, shithead motherfucker. I have no more patience for assholes for whom anybody who doesn’t say what they wanna hear is a “troll”.

You’re just as brainwashed as people who believe in COVID, totally incapable of a speck of rational skeptical inquisitive thinking.

I am, or trying, and that’s what I’m encouraging people to do.

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 16, 2021 12:43 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Ouch, your arguments are so persuasive! BTW, swearing in all caps makes you a troll because you obviously don’t have a lucid argument. But if you need to get it off your chest, you are welcome but still a troll.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 14, 2021 11:16 AM

“The spike protein could be considered a bioweapon separately from the coronavirus that it’s riding on. We can look at the coronavirus as a floating delivery system for this weaponized bioweapon [the jab]”

— Del Bigtree’s description at 53 minutes, which Richard Fleming called “an excellent way of looking at it.”

So you can see that whatever Covid is, or is not, the “Covid vaccine” is a bioweapon in its own right, meeting the UN description thereof.

Recommend listening from 00:31:00 minutes. Or from 18, as Spock suggested, if you make the time.

rob2
rob2
May 14, 2021 5:09 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Thanks so much for posting this. I just finished watching. It’s one of the best, most validating interviews I’ve seen to date. Bring on Nuremberg 2.0.

susan mullen
susan mullen
May 14, 2021 10:32 AM

There’s lots of pneumonia in India now. Fine, where are the antibiotics? In 1918 flu, many died of bacterial pneumonia which is treatable today with antibiotics. India manufactures plenty of hydroxychloroquine for treatment of malaria, US has even bought from them. India knows about effectiveness of HCQ cocktail because for awhile in 2020 they stopped supplying the US ostensibly to protect their own people. I haven’t heard mention of HCQ on BBC radio reports of screaming and crying in India.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 14, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  susan mullen

Quite true. Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) has been used for malaria treatment for decades. There are other Natural anti-viral therapies including Aretmisia Anna. This herb is common to many eastern countries, and has been utilized in China for thousands of years. Recent research suggests artemisin (a compound extracted from A. Annua) has been demonstrated to inhibit a number of viruses, including herpes simplex 1, hepatitis B & C.lso

Thugs such as prime minister Narendra Modi know goddamn well how this “epidemic” should be addressed, but he’s taking his pay and instructions from the World Health Organization. He needs to be exterminated…

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2021 10:07 AM

The picture that’s going around with the caption, “Stop saying asymptomatic, the word you’re looking for is healthy!” sums up the new promised land we have entered. The word “heathy” will no longer be used. Everyone not suffering from illness will be “asymptomatic” i.e. everyone is either in need of drugs to cure a condition or in need of dugs to stop a condition from happening. It’s the new consumer culture. “Health” – now defined as “asymptomatic” –  will have to be bought in.

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
May 14, 2021 9:46 AM

This won’t be too much of a surprise, to all but the ignorant trolls on here…

Around 18 minutes in, there’s a really clear and informed discussion following the questioning of Mr Fauci by Rand Paul, and clarifies the nature of the bioweapon that has been created and unleashed.

It was the first of me encountering Dr Richard Fleming, who is a physicist and nuclear cardiologist… He clarifies things in a clear scientific manner, and he really knows his stuff with this.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaWvLOElxj

Respect to Del Bigtree who has maintained open investigation and a challenge to the official narrative through this past year or so.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 14, 2021 10:13 AM
Reply to  Captain Spock
Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 14, 2021 11:50 AM
Reply to  Captain Spock

Very powerful lucid interview. At first I thought it was more fear porn in order to frighten people to get vaccinated, but I stuck with it to the end, and it became clear that getting vaccinated was the very worst thing you could do, because you would be receiving a dose more than a thousand times more powerful, being injected straight into you.

Comparing animal test survival times (they all died) extrapolated for humans, if fit and healthy, the vaccine may not kill you for around 18 months. On the positive side Dr. Richard Fleming said there are conventional medical treatments for all scenarios.

I suggest vaccinated people you know, are not exposed to such information, as it may frighten them to death.

I met such a friend yesterday, and he tried to ridicule me for being “one of them” for not being vaccinated. I couldn’t tell him what I thought, though he wouldn’t have believed me anyway. He thinks I’m a nutter, as most of my friends do. I can’t argue with that.

Tony

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 14, 2021 2:35 PM
Reply to  Captain Spock

I reviewed this session a few days after it’s release. It’s obvious Fauci is a lying sack of shit, and needs to be thrown into deep water wearing a pair of cement boots…

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2021 9:33 AM

And …here we go! From Time:

India’s COVID-19 Disaster May Be Turning Into an Even Bigger Global Crisis

Anyone with any experience of how the media works should know by now that “may be” always means “will be”.

Ooh – didn’t see that one coming!

Corarden
Corarden
May 14, 2021 11:01 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The Indian variant is making incursions from Ramsgate, like those stabby red arrows in the Dad’s Army opening credits. I can’t even think about that old BBC production and not think…mmm…wait a minute…

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2021 11:48 AM
Reply to  Corarden

Speaking of which, the Dad’s Army theme song, “Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mister Hitler?”, sounds like a genuine song from the war years but was actually written in 1968! Eerie! It’s like something out of PK Dick. Who do you think you’re kidding indeed!

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 14, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Or like Paul Weller sang, “What kind of a fool do you think I am … ?”

Penelope
Penelope
May 14, 2021 8:19 AM

“The virus hasn’t been isolated & therefore it doesn’t exist” is an invalid argument. Before we could separate the hydrogen and oxygen of water, they both existed. Before we could separate the RBCs from whole blood they existed. Our technical ability to isolate an entity from all others is not the criterion of whether or not it exists.

“As the number of cycles of the PCR test is increased it gives more false positives” is not the same as complete invalidation of the test at a lower number of cycles.

Even if the PCR test were totally invalid the disease that results from the virus has a unique clinical presentation — so say the many doctors treating patients and many specialists in epidemiology and virology.

The tiresome assertion that the virus and the disease don’t exist is, in my opinion, a species of “flat earth:” An argument introduced by the intelligence “community” to cause fragmentation and self-discrediting. That is, an argument calculated to discredit the opponents of the official covid line & its remedies of lockdown/vax.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 14, 2021 8:44 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Our technical ability to isolate an entity from all others is not the criterion of whether or not it exists.

now try that argument for phlogiston and the luminiferous aether.

the disease that results from the virus has a unique clinical presentation — so say the many doctors treating patients and many specialists in epidemiology and virology.

“Because some of the symptoms of flu and COVID-19 are similar, it may be hard to tell the difference between them based on symptoms alone, and testing may be needed to help confirm a diagnosis.”

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

For what it is worth, my education is pure science (e.g. mathematics, physics) and I pursue philosophy of science as a personal self-educational hobby.

So I am very well aware of phlogiston theory and luminiferous aether.

However, when we get into the realm of the infinitesimally small we humans do encounter the measure problem (e.g. Planck length, uncertainty principle, etc.).

So science (and by implication, its philosophy) has had to incorporate our limitations into its methods.

That is why simply responding “phlogiston” to the original commenter is not a convincing scientific response.

PS. How else has String Theory remained so active despite its 11 dimensions (or choose your own number) being overwhelmingly theoretical.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:04 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

[Our technical ability to isolate an entity from all others is not the criterion of whether or not it exists.

now try that argument for phlogiston and the luminiferous aether.]

Now try your counterargument for “gravitational force.”

Or look up the phrase “action at a distance.” And wonder with Hume about “constant conjunction” and causality.

Or consider how the Higgs boson was actually “seen.”

Once one digs into the philosophy of science, it becomes clear that your counterargument does not in and of itself “refute” the comment it responds to.

Mark L
Mark L
May 14, 2021 8:51 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I think all disease comes from invisible unicorns jabbing us with their poisoned horns. We don’t have the ‘technical ability’ to determine this, so according to your logic it doesn’t mean it isn’t true?

Shouldn’t the burden of proof be on the ones making a claim?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  Mark L

The crime partners use or abuse that same bogus principle in all the fields they tarnish on our public behalf, such as machine voting, as one graphic example. They were telling us twenty years ago that their privatised voting machines had no burden to prove the results were correct because we couldn’t prove fraud had ever occurred.

Lynn Landes pointed out to Diebold and “known assocates” that the only important truth was the reverse of their empty boast, that they couldn’t prove that fraud HADN’T occurred.

It is basically the same situation with ALL their bogus and unsubstantiated claims about their Magic Virus. So obvious.

And not just in epidemiology, but all of their many scams. Where is the law?

*

“In the nightmare of the dark
All the dogs of Europe bark,
And the living nations wait
Each sequestered in its hate.

Intellectual disgrace
Stares from every human face
And the seas of pity lie
Locked and frozen in each eye.”

— W. H. Auden, “In Memory of W. B. Yeats” (1939)

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:20 PM
Reply to  Mark L

[I think all disease comes from invisible unicorns jabbing us with their poisoned horns.]

Russell tea pot? Note that the commenter you are “answering” was not making the simplistic assertion you have straw-manned with your “invisible unicorn” analogy.

[Shouldn’t the burden of proof be on the ones making a claim?]

Yes. And I suggest you familiarise yourself with the principles and methods the proponents use to make their claim.

After that, feel free to counter that.

PS. My position is that COVID-19 has been driven largely by “fear porn” (as was other “scares,” for example AIDS). But balance of evidence suggests there is something such as a “virus,” and likely a particular one labeled “SARS-COV-2.”

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 15, 2021 8:29 AM
Reply to  suddyan

likely a particular one labeled “SARS-COV-2”

I’m unclear as to the evidence for that proposition; perhaps you could supply some.

Mark L
Mark L
May 15, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  suddyan

Dear Suddyan

It’s not a strawman argument, it’s an analogy which demonstrates the flawed nature of Penelope’s argument. For a strawman argument see Penelope’s comment below where she falsely accuses me of an ad hominem attack.

The point about separation could also be considered a strawman; the issue is that there is no proof, scientific or otherwise, for the existence of SARSCov2, or indeed any other virus, or for transmission.

Prior to 2020 I had no reason to doubt the claims of virus theory or vaccines or much of mainstream medical science. My instinct told me that something wasn’t right when the ‘fake plague’ kicked off, so I began to research. I read all the papers etc. claiming to support the mainstream narrative and was shocked to find that nothing stood up to the most cursory examination. I then read more widely on virus theory and vaccines and couldn’t believe how credulous I’d been. There is no empirical proof of virus theory. None for their existence and none for transmission. There is much empirical evidence for the harm caused by vaccines and none for their efficacy. I unthinkingly allowed my son to be poisoned and am ashamed for that.

Perhaps I have missed something. You claim that ‘the balance of evidence’ suggests that SARSCov2 and viruses generally exist. I would be grateful for references which demonstrate that. I would prefer the ‘fake plague’ narrative to be true given the terrifying implications of its falsity.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2021 2:41 AM
Reply to  Mark L

Mark L., definitely the burden of proof should be on the ones making a claim that viruses in general, or this one in particular, exist.

I am making the point that the argument purporting to disprove their evidence —
“Since we haven’t isolated it, it doesn’t exist” — is an invalid argument.

There may be other arguments, even valid ones. However, those who are logical cannot again use THIS argument.

Nor is it valid to attack ME instead of my argument. (ad hominem, you know?)

Ella
Ella
May 14, 2021 9:17 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I’m having trouble understanding your logic?

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:25 PM
Reply to  Ella

[I’m having trouble understanding your logic?]

Ella, if you are struggling with the straightforward argumentation as the other commenter presented, I suggest you start with logic.

Copi and Cohen’s textbook has been one of the standards for teaching logic for decades.

After that, maybe gently expose yourself to philosophy of science. Since you claim to have had trouble with the logic that was presented, maybe you need to start at entry level such as the “Very Short Introduction” series by Oxford University Press.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2021 2:54 AM
Reply to  Ella

Ella, the implicit argument that has been advanced regarding SARS-CoV-2 is the following:
–Everything which has not been separated from everything else doesn’t exist.
–SARS-CoV-2 has not been separated from everything else.
–Therefore SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t exist.

This is called a logical syllogism. When one states an exception to the major premise (the general statement), the syllogism’s conclusion is disproved.

However, the fact that the conclusion doesn’t follow from this particular syllogism doesn’t mean that the conclusion is incorrect by other means.

It does mean that one reveals oneself to be motivated by something OTHER THAN LOGIC if one persists in this particular logical fallacy.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 15, 2021 8:34 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Everything which has not been separated from everything else doesn’t exist.

absolutely nobody has proposed that theory.

what has been proposed, is that if no material evidence for some alleged phenomena can be produced, then there may not be any compelling reason to believe in its existence, rather than its nonexistence, until such time as some evidence in either direction can be located.

OU812
OU812
May 14, 2021 9:23 AM
Reply to  Penelope

The virus hasn’t been isolated & therefore it doesn’t exist

– why say this? The article claims no such thing. There is no claim made anywhere in it that says because the PCR is a highly questionable tool for mass diagnosis and detection that therefore the virus does not exist. You even place your statement in quotation marks to give the impressive that it appears (or is implied) in the article. You try to misrepresent in attempt to discredit valid concerns.
“My name is Penelope and I create straw men.”

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:28 PM
Reply to  OU812

The virus hasn’t been isolated & therefore it doesn’t exist” – why say this? The article claims no such thing.

That quoted claim is often made in the comments here. If you read here often enough, you should surely have come across it already.

My name is Penelope and I create straw men.

It is not a straw man. As stated above, maybe you have not been reading the comments very long, which could explain why you are unaware.

OU812
OU812
May 14, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  suddyan

I have seen people make comments to this effect on here and elsewhere but Penelope’s comment – when I saw it – was the first comment immediately below the article. Therefore, I regarded her comment as a direct response to the article itself.

Marcello
Marcello
May 14, 2021 6:48 PM
Reply to  OU812

Keep in mind that the rtPCR test, which years ago became very familiar with is not a test by a ” diagnostic method that is coupled with a ” clinical assessment” the 2 go together
A real rtPCR analysis is very expensive about $700 a pop in private clinics who are experts. Those clinics are few and far between.

The way it is being done on a massive industrial scale, testing healthy people with people who wear masks and gowns at a checkpoint or drive through makes a mockery of this method and if people were informed would understand how fraudulent it is
Checkpoint medical diagnosis with a ” red” positive, green negative is simplistic Kibuki for the masses
It is also being used to prop up a ” casedemic ” that further dilute the basis of this fraudulent narrative.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2021 2:57 AM
Reply to  OU812

OU812, Sorry, I wasn’t commenting on the article. It was natural that you should have thought so.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 14, 2021 9:33 AM
Reply to  Penelope

The jab is killing people. We have moved beyond the independent pathogenic existence (or not) of Covid as the key issue.

People who give priority to the argument that Covid does not exist (or viruses don’t exist) are distracting from the current emergency – to stop eugenics by jab.

If the only threat we faced was a make-believe disease, it would be acceptable to focus on its non-existence… though since the claimed death rate is so low… is it worth the soap box?

Far greater harm is being done through the gene jabs, by DNRs, the shut down of health services, the disruption of the supply chain, the unemployment of marginal workers and by the attempted economic takeover.

At this point I regard people banging on about “Covid don’t exist” as dangerously uninformed or distractors.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:33 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

[At this point I regard people banging on about “Covid don’t exist” as dangerously uninformed or distractors.]

You are welcome to your personal priorities.

As for myself, being of a scientific bent, I value any progress made into further scientific certainty regarding viruses and their existence (or not).

Politically, I also regard such certainty as important, since viruses are clearly being used as a tool (of my personal oppression) in many political players’ armouries.

So I welcome any “banging on” about COVID’s existence (or not).

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2021 11:30 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The jabs and strictures are definitely killing more people than usual:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores?country=GBR~ISR~PRT~USA~CHL~BRA

For India and Indonesia, such figures are not shown. Their deaths per million remains low in comparison to the worst countries:
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&minPopulationFilter=1000000&time=2020-02-28..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISR~PRT~GBR~USA~CHL~IND~BRA~IDN

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 14, 2021 1:07 PM
Reply to  Penelope

“Our technical ability to isolate an entity from all others is not the criterion of whether or not it exists.” It is the ONLY criterion to prove to collective human perception, as defined in its era (in this case, Reason based epistemology, bred by the liberation of the production means and the political system that halts aristocracy from intervening in it by merit of god-given rights to power) it exists, and that is completely besides the point since there are far more logic-bending admissions and practices prerequisite in your argument, which have to do with the specificities of virology and medical science; the appropriatness of using the PCR method on NON-RANDOM and NON-REPRESENTATIVE samples without followup and without medical examinations, for example.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:35 PM

[“Our technical ability to isolate an entity from all others is not the criterion of whether or not it exists.” It is the ONLY criterion to prove to collective human perception.]

No, isolation is not the only criterion. See for instance Higgs boson which was “found” to exist not by direct observation or isolation.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 14, 2021 2:39 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Yes. It is tiresome. And yes, it is a red herring argument formulated by the intelligence community.

mojo
mojo
May 16, 2021 9:16 AM

So the poster “researcher” works for the Intel community?

dr death
dr death
May 14, 2021 4:57 PM
Reply to  Penelope

examine .. logical fallacies.. and educate yourself.

unfortunately your screed is riddled with them..

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 14, 2021 8:12 AM

‘Tengra says the case fatality rate for COVID-19 in India was 3% now … below 1.5%. The infection fatality rate is .. between 0.05% to 0.1%’

No issue but I’m not clear on how the covid fatality rate can be above the infection fatality especially if cases are indeed mostly PCR positive tests which we assume they are.

If cases are indeed false positives I would expect the CFR to lower than the IFR rate as the deaths to cases ratio should be much smaller.

Apart from that I agree with the article.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 14, 2021 8:53 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

“infections” are people who are labelled as “COVID positive” by the fake PCR test, who may not be sick at all.

“cases” are people who are actually sick enough with something, COVID-1984 or otherwise, that they actually seek medical assistance.

it is somewhat unsurprising, that people who are noticeably sick, have a higher death rate than those who are not.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 14, 2021 9:28 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

I think most peoples understanding is the opposite.

Cases have been people who have tested positive with the PCR test. As Ivor Cummings so aptly noted what we have had is a ‘casedemic’.

Infections are people who have by definition been infected in this case with CV19.

Having spent too much time on sceptic websites I believe that is most sceptics understanding.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 14, 2021 9:40 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

well, they can take it up with Wikipedia, then.

a case fatality rate (CFR) is the proportion of deaths from a certain disease compared to the total number of people diagnosed with the disease for a particular period.

the term infection fatality rate (IFR) also applies to infectious disease outbreaks, but represents the proportion of deaths among all infected individuals, including all asymptomatic and undiagnosed subjects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_fatality_rate

jimW
jimW
May 14, 2021 10:15 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

A positive Rt-PCR test is used as the diagnosis. It shouldn’t be of course, but it is, so all reported ‘cases’ are positive RT-PCR tests including all the false ones.
IFR as used by Ionnidis uses covid deaths divided by estimated seroprevalence in the population.
Same words deliberately used differently in order to confuse.
Wiki are trying to rewrite history as usual by covering up the predominant role of the RT-PCR test at ridiculously high CT values.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:06 PM
Reply to  jimW

[Wiki are trying to rewrite history as usual by covering up the predominant role of the RT-PCR test at ridiculously high CT values.]

As much as I distrust Wikipedia’s political slants in their articles, in this case I do not see them doing what you infer. They are simply reflecting what the established / official “authorities” are doing. The abuse of RT-PCR tests to define a “case” originated not from Wikipedia, but from the “authorities.”

[IFR as used by Ionnidis uses covid deaths divided by estimated seroprevalence in the population.]

Note that Ioannides is using seroprevalence as an operational measure, as it is virtually impossible to directly determine “asymptomatic and undiagnosed infections” in order to determine IFR.

[Same words deliberately used differently in order to confuse.]

I beg your pardon, but that is not the case. What Ioannides is doing is trying to estimate IFR as well as scientifically possible.

He is certainly not confusing it with “cases” or confusing IFR and CFR, nor are the “same words” being “deliberately used in order to confuse.”

PS. I agree with you about the new wrongful use of “cases” as being anyone “positive” on RT-PCR tests, especially as you say, at “ridiculously high CT values.” But that is neither Ioannides nor Wikipedia’s initiative, and one cannot blithely label them themselves as now supposedly deliberately sowing confusion.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 14, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

My go to source for the truth! Especially as regards politics and NWO issues …

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:51 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Yes, that is a fair description. Thanks for bringing clarity. The IFR and CFR seems to confuse quite a number of people, who then draw strange conclusions based on their misunderstanding.

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 14, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

That’s the confusion and the lie here: “cases” in media, are positive tests. Cases in medical science are people who actually got sick. Infection mortality rate is the ratio of deaths to people who have or have had the disease, say for example you had an illness that caused you irreversible damage and you end up dying from that damage despite not having the virus or microbe replicating inside you causing you illness that manifests through symptoms.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 2:49 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

[Cases have been people who have tested positive with the PCR test. As Ivor Cummings so aptly noted what we have had is a ‘casedemic’.]

Commenter THX-1660 has also responded and quoted from and referred you to Wikipedia, which does give a fair explanation.

It also took me a few moments to establish the true meanings, since many commenters were using their subjective (sadly often wrong) understandings in their comments.

In short, the IFR is closely related to the CFR, but attempts “to additionally account for all asymptomatic and undiagnosed infections.”

As to Ivor Cummings, I suspect you may have misconstrued what he actually meant? In my experience he has not gotten his definitions wrong in any of his talks I listened to, so I doubt he got the IFR and CFR mixed up either.

PS. Once you have sorted out the clear definitions for yourself, please also help to correct those who still appear confused.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 15, 2021 9:48 AM
Reply to  suddyan

In the video below Cummins explains how he derived the ‘casedemic’ analysis.

As JimW explains above the PCR test is used to defined cases. As Cummins explains these cases are people testing positive from the PCR for all sorts of reasons. This includes detection of virus particles, sometimes from other coronavirus, as well as people who may have recovered from the virus some time ago.

Included in this definition however are also false positives as well as genuine positives. As such its very difficult to determine as you say what the real IFR is – that is the people who are actually ill with the virus unless they are hospitalisations.

But the media has wrapped all these definitions under the umbrella of cases. This is done to big up the numbers, push the narrative and scare the public for any number of reasons.

I don’t think we necessarily disagree but I hope that has clarified my earlier point.

Peter
Peter
May 14, 2021 8:06 AM

The escalation of the propaganda re India is a signal that the depopulation agenda is being escalated. Africa will be next.

stella
stella
May 14, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Peter

I find this explanation for the depopulation too extreme ,also I hardly believe all this about vax passport .After all they gave us the alternative to have a selftest and then we can travel or join some activities.Even if you don’t believe the test, it is a self- test and you declare the result by yourself.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 14, 2021 12:09 PM
Reply to  stella

Why should i have to do any test if I’m perfectly healthy?

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:09 PM
Reply to  stella

[After all they gave us the alternative to have a selftest and then we can travel or join some activities.]

Stella, to me it is a Hobson’s choice.

I suggest you add the option “leave me free as a free human being to decide for myself whether I want a vax or a test or neither” and then we can reconsider your “after all” supporting argument.

Ella
Ella
May 14, 2021 9:44 AM
Reply to  Peter

Peter, I agree with you. In fact I would say it’s obvious although Africa is an interesting one. But I’m having a philosophical problem. I see no hope for the world in it’s current state. It was a lunatic asylum before covid and it’s just getting worse. We are rapidly depleting all our finite resources. In a nutshell we are killing the planet and running out of the finite resources to survive. Oil being obvious, phosphate etc. less so but just as critical. It is literally a house of cards. So here is the conundrum. Simply plod on and wait for the wheels to come off completely with extinction (long story but a fact) being the guaranteed outcome and unimaginable horrors in between or planned depopulation. You see I have a very good idea of how exactly it’s being done but I can’t bring myself to tell anyone because in a way, I agree with it. When Penelope replies with her “ideas” about how the world can easily sustain 7 Billion people you will understand why it’s being done this way.. So what I see is happening here on this web site is lots of intelligent people realising that obviously something is very wrong with this picture and posting comments to express that frustration. But perhaps if they understood the big picture…
No one has told you the vaccine is compulsory. Read between the lines and take that as a gift from the powers that be. I am.

Just my humble opinion.

jimW
jimW
May 14, 2021 10:21 AM
Reply to  Ella

I’m really pleased you are humbly agreeing to mass murder because you think that the planet is under threat from the scourge of mankind. Misanthropy is the real threat here.

Ella
Ella
May 14, 2021 11:02 AM
Reply to  jimW

I rest my case. You do not understand the problem or how bad the alternative will be. So you won’t hear another word from me on this web site. Thank you.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:27 PM
Reply to  Ella

[I rest my case. You do not understand the problem or how bad the alternative will be.]

I rest my case. You do not understand the problem or how bad the alarmist alternative might, just maybe, possibly, perhaps, but practically unlikely, “will” be.

Corarden
Corarden
May 14, 2021 11:06 AM
Reply to  Ella

That’s the kind of thinking that put the world in the state you are bemoaning.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 14, 2021 12:18 PM
Reply to  Ella

Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth, right Ella? Or you might find you’ve been given a 2000 lb crocodile.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:24 PM
Reply to  Ella

[In a nutshell we are killing the planet…]

Ella, kindly allow me quote George Carlin:

“The planet is fine! Compared to the people, The planet is doing great: been here four and a half billion years! Do you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We’ve been here what? 100,000? Maybe 200,000? And we’ve only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over 200 years. 200 years versus four and a half billion. And we have the conceit to think that somehow, we’re a threat? That somehow, we’re going to put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that’s just a-floatin’ around the sun? The planet has been through a lot worse than us.”

[So what I see is happening here on this web site is lots of intelligent people realising that obviously something is very wrong with this picture and posting comments to express that frustration.]

Well, Ella, what I see happening here on this web site is lots of intelligent people panicking that “obviously” something is very wrong and posting comments to express that frustration.

I suggest you ask yourself: is there really something very wrong?

Clearly once you have bought into the panic narrative, it is not easy to objectively ask that question. As fro me, I first listened to Al Gore. Because I grew up in and loved nature, I wanted to make sure that what he was predicting does not come about. So, being from a science background, I dug into the scientific evidence. And gradually I realised that the “scientific evidence” is not actually objectively scientific evidence – rather it is strongly politically biased “scientific evidence.”

It took me some time. But I no longer fear for the planet. Instead, I fear my panicky fellow humans. Who do not take the time to objectively evaluate ALL the scientific data. And regrettably, especially those fellow human beings with good hearts and intentions like you.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2021 3:28 AM
Reply to  Ella

Ella, I know you have read a great deal of propaganda about the growth of population (It’s actually already declining). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSAgHvETNSg population is falling. Empty Planet: Preparing for the Global Population Decline VIDEO by two quite civilized authors.

Shortage of resources. It’s easiest to disprove petrochemical shortage. For just one article, read F Wm Engdahl’s “Oil Where is Thy Peak?” online.

Pollution: In just about every case TPTB are the guilty parties, not humanity at large. In the days of prop-jets, one could look down & see just how empty the earth is.

Killing the planet: I guess you haven’t seen through the global warming hoax. If you are open to looking see the Senate Report. https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2014/7/post-53280dcb-9f2c-2e3a-7092-10cf6d8d08df

It’s perilously easy to let your identity get mixed up with your conclusions so that they are no longer subject to reason– so that one defends them as if defending oneself. Science is about welcoming data that contradicts even our most cherished beliefs– and it is wonderfully liberating.

Good luck.

Sam
Sam
May 14, 2021 8:03 AM

Good old Fauci:

1) Lied and said you can get AIDS just from being in the same house as someone
2) Lied about masks in either March/May 2020 (take your pick whether being pro/anti masks was the lie)
3) Lied about the Spanish Flu after writing a 2008 article himself (in a science journal) directly contradicting his statement about it being a deadly VIRUS
4) Lied about Robert Gallo to protect him (more AIDS stuff)
5) Lied about financing gain of function stuff in Wuhan
6) Forced a woman to come into his house and clean it even in spring/summer 2020 when everyone was in maximum panic mode
7) Lied about pulling his mask down to his chin at a baseball game
8) Lied about swine flu (2009)
9) Lied about his financial stake in Remdesivir
10) Has never once isolated or done lab work with a virus in his whole miserable rotten life
11) Gets paid more than ANY OTHER PERSON in the entire United States government

And, as far as I know, he’s never even been to India once.

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2021 12:40 PM
Reply to  Sam

Unfortunately Fauci – along with Blair and Ferguson and etc. – can lie as much as he wants. He can even be found out over and over. It doesn’t matter. There’s no business like show business, give ’em the old razzle dazzle etc. The great organ grinds on and the approved gospel drills into everyone’s skull. And that’s enough to drown out the most strident bellows denouncing the lies. At least “Dubya” had the decency to fuck off after his show!

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 14, 2021 1:17 PM
Reply to  Sam

I’ve read in a comment before that he had some role in the initial AIDS scaremongering, I presume in the 80s. I would like to know more if you can share.

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:43 PM

[I’ve read in a comment before that he had some role in the initial AIDS scaremongering, I presume in the 80s. I would like to know more if you can share.]

Some bits and pieces in Virus Mania by Engelbrecht and Kohnlein.

I also recently came across a video (yes, on youtube) called “The Dubious History of Anthony Fauci with Guest Phillip Magness.”

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 14, 2021 8:29 PM
Reply to  suddyan

I will check it out.

Thom
Thom
May 14, 2021 7:56 AM

The writer of that comment has plainly forgotten that India is another of the US’s economic rivals that the US is trying to sabotage to cover up its own decline. It didn’t work for China so now they’re trying for second place by trying to destroy the EU, India and Japan. (Odd how ‘covid’ has turned up in Japan in a big way just before the Olympics, isn’t it?)

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:49 PM
Reply to  Thom

[The writer of that comment has plainly forgotten that India is another of the US’s economic rivals that the US is trying to sabotage to cover up its own decline.]

I observe your assertion, as if you are conveying an indubitable fact.

However. Your evidence seems to be lacking. And by evidence, I do not mean cherry-picking, narrative-fitting incidental happenings, but actual, incontrovertible, provable evidence.

[(Odd how ‘covid’ has turned up in Japan in a big way just before the Olympics, isn’t it?)]

Well, there you go. Not evidence. But certainly cherry-picked and narrative-fitting. Pre-existing believers in the narrative will laud you.

As for me?

I do facts. So I yawn at your narrative construction.

stella
stella
May 14, 2021 7:46 AM

Dear Mr TodhunterI totally agree with your concerns regarding the covid19 pandemic ,the vaccines and PCR diagnostic test.However any objection concerning the lethality of covid 19 and the vaccines is considering as dangerous and criminal for the wellbeing of the society,and the person who express this objection,no matter if he or she is a prominent doctor or scientist , is being considering as ridiculous “persona no grata”.

davemass
davemass
May 14, 2021 7:40 AM

2 points:-
1.5 million Indians died from road accidents in 2019;
(Presumably they still have road accidents during covid?!)
So would need hospital resources too?

Remember DDT? used so much, the insects became more and more resistant.
While a virus is not sentient, or alive, it presumably mutates automatically as nature intended?

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 14, 2021 3:15 PM
Reply to  davemass

You see, lockdowns do save lives!

Marcello
Marcello
May 14, 2021 11:05 PM
Reply to  davemass

Let me tell you about the ” hidden statistics of DDT, as of the years 2000 onwards , if you drive throughout rural Saskatchewan and have a tea or coffee in every town, there are whole swaths of a generation missing between the ages 65 upwards. Where a have they gone? There essentially no ” old people” in rural Saskatchewan
When you pay attention and notice it its like something out of the X Files

If you look up neurodegenerative statistics in Canada, the highest is in the so called Prairie provinces, why my guess is DDT. But it will not be mentioned.
There are countless environmental catastrophes that the Canadian Federal government have been involved that would make your jaw drop.
Now what about this, I am convinced that the same will be happening that as time stretches out, whole ” age groups” will be gone

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 14, 2021 7:36 AM

The strange thing about asymptomatic is that until the dark ages time of January 2020 it meant healthy, now it means diseased because of a fake test for a virus never found. Australia treats them like they are gods and has squandered $311 billion destroying the country and turning it into a fortress, and that is just the directly budgeted costs, the true cost of 30,000 so called ”cases” from 17 million ”tests” is well over $1 trillion for literally nothing.

Now they are saying Indian Australians must stay in India if they test ”positive”, and India switched to the even more incompetent Rapid Antigen Tests last October to incite this ”pandemic” and claim catastrophe.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 14, 2021 8:57 AM
Peytoia
Peytoia
May 14, 2021 4:42 PM

Marilyn Shepherd, “The strange thing about asymptomatic is that until the dark ages time of January 2020 it meant healthy” – not if you worked for the NHS in the UK. I stopped agreeing to the flu jab in about 2017. Before then (but I can’t remember how long before) we were being told that if we didn’t agree (to have the flu jab) we could be asymptomatic carriers of flu and hence be endangering the patients.

Glenda
Glenda
May 14, 2021 7:20 AM

Excellent article as usual, Colin Todhunter. I am so disgusted at our ABC for continuing to use the confronting footage of cremations on their 7.30 report. And the viewers who implicitly trust them refuse to accept the real statistics. It is my understanding that more people in India have died from suicide than from the ‘virus’.

Ooink
Ooink
May 14, 2021 7:31 AM
Reply to  Glenda

Well they did the same thing in New York with the videos of “mass graves” that turned out to be lots used for decades to bury homeless and unclaimed dead people. Why they don’t burn such people into ashes I dunno. They burn everyone else…unless you pay huge money for an actual grave.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 14, 2021 7:38 AM
Reply to  Glenda

10 million or so people die every year in India, that is 27,400 per day, but the
ABC with fucking Norman Swan, McClaws from WHO, Bill Bowtell of Grim Reaper ads fame and that ghastly Macintyre woman have the morons at the ABC in their grip. They even did a program showing 400 million internal ”migrants” having to march for weeks to get home and still don’t get THEY DID NOT ALL GET SICK.

Edith
Edith
May 14, 2021 10:18 AM

Which is why I no longer watch TV. Why put yourself through the crap,,

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
May 14, 2021 11:13 AM
Reply to  Edith

TV has always been a sewer pipe direct to the brain.

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2021 12:32 PM

For that exodus of the poorest, I have yet to see seen any figures on the deaths and injuries.

Edwige
Edwige
May 14, 2021 8:42 AM
Reply to  Glenda

Have your media been playing the trick that every body found in the Ganges is because of Covid unless proven otherwise? The BBC have been running with this angle for weeks….

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2021 9:51 AM
Reply to  Glenda

In Japan the month of last October there were more suicides than “Covid deaths” to that point. 85% were women, driven nuts by the restrictions, job losses etc. etc.

(Sorry, I don’t have the references at hand, but at the time I read that same stat line at several sites.)

Edith
Edith
May 14, 2021 10:19 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

And yet they will still all go on about the pandemic…I could wish that word would disappear as well.

Corarden
Corarden
May 14, 2021 11:10 AM
Reply to  Edith

I think we should start calling it ‘The Bollocks’.

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2021 12:44 PM
Reply to  Corarden

How about “The Panned Emitic”?

Jojo
Jojo
May 14, 2021 7:17 AM

Re: PCR tests required of healthy people

I battled with Stanford Healthcare/hospital in Palo Alto, CA back in Dec/Jan about their requirement that all surgeries get a PCR test 72 hours or less prior to surgery. Despite providing evidence, including CDC/WHO guidelines and a couple of NYT articles about how PCR tests were not supposed to be used for diagnosis in healthly people w/o symptoms of Covid, I was ultimately unsuccessful in changing this business (yes business practive, because we know it is not a valid healthcare practice).

They invoked that they were following the rules of some little known CA health oversight group and that they would not make a change to this policy on their own. It’s difficult to beat the bureaucracy at their own game. Science and logic certainly doesn’t work!

suddyan
suddyan
May 14, 2021 3:55 PM
Reply to  Jojo

[It’s difficult to beat the bureaucracy at their own game.]

That is one technique the state uses to control its citizens.

They bureaucratise you to pure helplessness.

Hele
Hele
May 14, 2021 6:14 AM

F-ing brilliant article.After a fraught day of being manipulated by family -using covid vaccines as a cudgel and finding msm clippings on virus in India-propaganda- sent to me by a close friend -in my mail box.How refreshing to read this.Thank you.

Ooink
Ooink
May 14, 2021 6:25 AM
Reply to  Hele

I’ve not been looking into anything Kovid for a while. What’s the actual story in India?

Jan J
Jan J
May 14, 2021 6:48 AM
Reply to  Ooink

The official story: People are dying in droves, people need to be Cremated in the streets!

The reality: IFR 0.05-0.10%, density of deaths to million people aligned with the lowest in the world. More people die of hunger than “COVID”.

Conclusion: MSM coverage on India in this matter is just another “shock and awe” story and the kind story they need to stoke fear globally. The target audience of this story is mostly westerners, not Indians as a way to maintain the “threat level” when almost no people are dying in the west.

Ooink
Ooink
May 14, 2021 7:32 AM
Reply to  Jan J

Is it like the con used in New York City where they had those highly emotive videos of “mass burials” that turned out to be lots used for decades to bury the city’s homeless etc? In other words, a scam?

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 15, 2021 12:32 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Not to mention the ambulances shown rushing through the streets with ”covid’ were empty and going to take the old and sick out of hospitals to dump them to die.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2021 9:58 AM
Reply to  Jan J

I have been keeping an eye on India stories since last May, the whole situation has had MSM all along grasping at straws to try to reconcile it with their other frantic Covid narratives.

Only last week I did some math again and found their stats to show India with single digits percentages of USA “deaths”. Less than 10%.

That really gives these liars a black eye, coming out of a country where social distancing is not an option.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 14, 2021 12:50 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Unfortunately like audience members at a hypnosis event jumping up and clucking when a certain word is spoken so the western masses are losing their grease at the sight of people lying in the streets and bodies burning on funeral pyres – all a part of normal life in India.

At some point people HAVE to notice the absence of real world evidence of covid death around them. In this endless pathetic state of “emergency,” we should all have at least one family member – or even one extended acquaintance – in the ground after a desperate vigil on a ventilator, no?

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 14, 2021 3:25 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Sorry Toy, you are not getting the fact that meanings change with usage. “Emergency” has no longer anything at all to do with “urgency”.
In fact, I’ve been looking into a long-term lease on a room in a local emergency ward just in case I stub my toe in the foreseeable future.
Could be costly, however … they need to make up for all the empty beds in intensive care …
Freedom is Slavery

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 14, 2021 7:40 AM
Reply to  Ooink

Well in Delhi it’s been in the high 30;s and low 40’s celsius with hazardous pollution levels for months. People are dying of pollution as per normal, about 2 million of them a year.

Penelope
Penelope
May 14, 2021 6:06 AM

The post-covid fungal attacks are occurring elsewhere, too. I found journal articles detailing patients in Haiti, Delaware, and a lot in China. It’s linked to the drugs used to depress the cytokine storm. Also to diabetes and hematological conditions. Weakened post-covid patients or implant patients have little defense against inhaled spores– in part due to immunosuppressive agents, and monoclonal antibodies like Tocilizumab (TCZ), 

The fungus colonizes nasal passages, sinuses, eyes, lungs after the patient has recovered from covid.

Jan J
Jan J
May 14, 2021 6:52 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Fungal infections happen all the time in immunosuppressed people, very common under chemotherapy for example. Fungus can and will attack people with poor immune systems, nothing new or shocking about this, the “COVID fungus” story is yet another “shock and awe” story to stoke fear in the public. The incidence overall is minuscule and really has nothing to do with COVID.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 14, 2021 7:41 AM
Reply to  Penelope

People are not recovering from covid, there is no such thing as covid. If there was it would be a common cold as even WHO were forced to put on their website, just another betacorona virus that is always around. It’s only the stupid Drosten and Melbourne university with their con job who said it was new.

Edith
Edith
May 14, 2021 10:22 AM

And no mention that it was happily circulating for 9 months before the pollies etal got all excited…ala the Italian study of blood that seems to be far too inconvenient to ever see the light of day

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2021 5:29 AM

Anthony Fauci is a fully automated garden gnome and he has no right to lecture anybody on anything.

Come to think about it, nobody has the right to lecture anybody on any matter. That implies a hierarchical superior/inferior arrangement, and that’s something humankind needs to rid itself of.

JIMBO
JIMBO
May 14, 2021 7:16 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Check out Fauci and Pandemrix

Pandemrix vaccine: why was the public not told of early warning signs?BMJ 2018362 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.k3948 (Published 20 September 2018)Cite this as: BMJ 2018;362:k3948
http://sandpit.bmj.com/site_images/2018/Pandemrix_v18_web.pngInfographic availableBeware of Vax Zombeeze!!!!

FREE PALESTINE!!!!

Vitor Neilsen
Vitor Neilsen
May 14, 2021 7:55 AM
Reply to  JIMBO

Non pay walled, downloadable copy of that article available here:
https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/british-medical-journal-was-swine-flu-vaccine-unsafe

schmuck
schmuck
May 14, 2021 4:43 AM

COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease Classen Immunotherapies, Inc., 3637 Rockdale Road, Manchester, MD 21102, E-mail: [email protected]. Correspondence:
J. Bart Classen, MD, Classen Immunotherapies, Inc., 3637 Rockdale Road, Manchester, MD 21102, Tel: 410-377-8526. Received: 27 December 2020; Accepted: 18 January 2021 Citation: Classen JB. COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease. Microbiol Infect Dis. 2021; 5(1): 1-3.Classen JB. COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease. Microbiol Infect Dis. 2021; 5(1): 1-3. <= From the article ABSTRACT I select .. the following quotes.
In this paper the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine was evaluated for the potential to induce prion-based disease in vaccine recipients. The results indicate that the vaccine RNA has specific sequences that may induce TDP-43 and FUS to fold into their pathologic prion confirmations… known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases. … leads the author to believe the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.
would appreciate all who can read the paper to do so, and comment on it..It suggest the real risks associated to RNA Vax are long term.

Peter
Peter
May 14, 2021 7:59 AM
Reply to  schmuck

More people ought to be looking into this. It is the ideal way to exterminate large numbers of people. Force them to take an injection that will give them CJD and ALS 2 – 5 years after the injection.

Edwige
Edwige
May 14, 2021 8:48 AM
Reply to  Peter

Not agreeing or disagreeing with this claim – but I would point out that CJD could be easily missed in the elderly as the symptoms would appear identical to other ailments that afflict them.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
May 14, 2021 4:39 AM

with a regular daily count of + 27,000 deceased – India of 1.4 billion people would hardly register an extra few thousand deaths per day….and as they’ll be heavily reliant on an inaccurate test or guesswork to diagnose, then to what else could cause of death be attributed …Shortage of the typical, medicines/medical treatment – poverty/malnutrition or fear…?

Something else perhaps.

Black fungus and cow dung

The Indian public has a new problem to content with, as reports circulate of deaths from mucormycosis, popularly known as “black fungus,” in patients recently treated for covid-19. The fungal infection of the sinuses is difficult to treat and often fatal.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1238

Jan J
Jan J
May 14, 2021 6:57 AM
Reply to  Doctortrinate

In the article it says 40 treported cases over 15 days in a population of 6 million, statistically a trivial amount. Old and Immunosupressed people get fungal infections all the time, this is just another “shock and awe” story with no substance numerically.

Jojo
Jojo
May 14, 2021 7:19 AM
Reply to  Jan J

It’s anything to elevate fear. That is how the MSM work.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 14, 2021 9:07 AM
Reply to  Doctortrinate

India of 1.4 billion people would hardly register an extra few thousand deaths per day

what evidence is there for any such increase?

all they have to do, is move a few thousand people who would previously have been recorded as flu, pneumonia, or heart failure deaths, into the shiny new COVID-1984 category. that’s certainly what was done in western countries, why change a winning formula?

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
May 14, 2021 9:48 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

India exists within a perfectly tuned chaos….therefore, to tip that already volatile hand to mouth measure into crisis, only requires a small shift for deaths to undoubtedly rise….how they label the cause, much as we’ve seen in the west perhaps, where all was Covid.

I also found it interesting how the (Black) Fungal Infection is of the sinuses (swab?), and that the BMJ reports ” in patients recently treated for covid-19″.

“Indian Man Gives A Warning Of What Is Happening In India”

https://odysee.com/@TruthVault:0/India:6

Maiasta
Maiasta
May 14, 2021 4:19 AM

A petition has been filed in the Supreme Court of India against mandatory mass vaccination. The petitioner is a former member of the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation & seeks disclosure of the hidden vaccine trial data and post vaccination adverse events:
https://greatgameindia.com/petition-mandatory-vaccination-india/

More on the correlation between mass vaccinations and the rising death toll in India:
https://yvymaraey.blogspot.com/2021/05/making-sense-of-indias-covid-19-surge.html

Maiasta
Maiasta
May 14, 2021 4:15 AM

Good article. I’m glad the Kohls/Chossudovsky article was mentioned because the point really needs to driven home that all of the “infection” estimates and everything based on them, are utterly baseless. No valid test = no evidence of a pandemic.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 14, 2021 5:13 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

Medical mistakes kill hundreds of thousands – in a normal year.

With hospitals closed and elective surgery cancelled, many of those deaths didn’t happen. Instead other people died at home for lack of treatment.

On the good side, sudden infant death has almost disappeared. Coincidentally they didn’t get their baby vaccinations.

That isn’t a pandemic but it meets my definition of a plan.

Very real deaths are chalked up to Covid. No more deaths than a normal year but different people than those who would otherwise have died. Does that matter, as Cuomo would quip? Yes. Because they were planned. They were not accidental.

“A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000. Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.” – CNBC, 2018

Maiasta
Maiasta
May 14, 2021 5:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors”

This seems to be a fairly stable proportion of fatalities. I remember seeing a similar calculation in the year 2006. Also, a few years back, the Boston Globe printed an article titled “When doctors strike, fewer patients die”. It’s behind a paywall, but you can find similar contents in the following:
Death Rates Drop When Doctors Go on Strike
When Doctors Go On Strike People Stop Dying

No doubt this has offset some of last year’s lockdown-induced fatalities.

On the good side, sudden infant death has almost disappeared.

Do you have any specific data showing this?

Maiasta
Maiasta
May 14, 2021 9:21 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Ah, thanks.