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How the Unthinkable Became Thinkable Eric Lander, Julian Huxley and the Awakening of Sleeping Monsters

Matthew Ehret

Will we see biotechnology serve the interests of humanity under a multipolar paradigm that cherishes national sovereignty, human life, family, and faith?

As much as it might cause us a fair deal of displeasure and even an upset stomach to consider such ideas as the hold eugenics has on our presently troubled era, I believe that ignoring such a topic really does no one any favors in the long run.

This is especially serious, as leading World Economic Forum darlings like Yuval Harari flaunt such concepts as “the new global useless class” which Artificial intelligence, genetic engineering, automation and the Fourth Industrial Revolution is supposedly ushering in. Other Davos creatures like Klaus Schwab call openly for a microchipped global citizenry capable of interfacing with a global web with a single thought while Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg promote ‘neuralinks’ to “keep humanity relevant” by merging with computers in a new epoch of evolutionary biology.

Leading Darwinian geneticists like Sir James Watson and Sir Richard Dawkins openly defend eugenics while a technocracy consolidates itself in a governing station using a “Great Reset” as an excuse to usher in a new post-nation state era.

If there is something fundamentally evil lurking behind these processes which has any connection to the Anglo-American rise of fascism and eugenics nearly a century ago, then let’s at least have the courage to explore that possibility. It was after all, only by looking at this ugliness 80 years ago, that patriots were able to take appropriate measures to prevent a bankers’ technocratic dictatorship in 1933 and again during WW2.. so perhaps a similar display of courage to think the unthinkable might be worth the effort for those who might find themselves in a similar situation today.

What Didn’t Happen at Nuremburg?

Seventy-six years ago, as the allies were consolidating their victory over the Nazi machine and as the “Nuremburg Tribunals” were quickly being arranged, a new strategy was set into motion by the very same forces that had put vast energy, money and resources into the rise of fascism as “the miracle solution” of post-WWI economic chaos that had spread across Europe and the USA.

It is among the greatest scandals of our age that the Wall Street- City of London machine that financed Hitler and Mussolini as battering rams for a new world order were never actually brought to justice.

Although Franklin Roosevelt managed to put a leash on Wall Street between 1933-1945, while setting the world stage for a beautiful post-war vision of win-win cooperation, the darker forces of the financier oligarchy who wanted only to establish a global unipolar system of governance not only avoided punishment, but wasted no time to regain their lost hegemony before the war had come to a close.

The Role of Sir Julian Huxley

One of the conceptual grand strategists of this process was a man named Julian Sorrel Huxley (1887-1975). Celebrated as a biologist, and social reformer, Julian was a devout life-long member of the British Eugenics Society serving alongside John Maynard Keynes as secretary and later as its president.

Julian was a busy man, who along with his brother Aldous, worked hard to fill the very large shoes of their grandfather Thomas (aka: Darwin’s bulldog). While simultaneously managing the post-WW2 eugenics movement, Julian found himself setting into motion the modern environmental movement as founder of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature in 1948, co-founding the World Wildlife Fund in 1961, created the term “transhumanism” and also founding an immensely influential United Nations body called UNESCO (abbreviated for the United Nations Education, Science and Cultural Organization) in 1946 which he ran as Director General from 1946-1948.

The mandate for the new organization was set out clearly in Huxley’s 1946 UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy:

The moral for UNESCO is clear. The task laid upon it of promoting peace and security can never be wholly realised through the means assigned to it- education, science and culture. It must envisage some form of world political unity, whether through a single world government or otherwise, as the only certain means of avoiding war… in its educational programme it can stress the ultimate need for a world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization.”

To what end would this “world political unity” be aimed? Several pages later, Huxley’s vision is laid out in all of its twisted detail:

At the moment, it is probable that the indirect effect of civilization is dysgenic instead of eugenic, and in any case it seems likely that the dead weight of genetic stupidity, physical weakness, mental instability and disease proneness, which already exist in the human species will prove too great a burden for real progress to be achieved. Thus even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable.”

After the world got the chance to see what a eugenics program looked like under the full support of a fascist social engineer, it would be no exaggeration to say that it lost a good deal of popularity in the eyes of a world population still very much connected to traditional cultural institutions like Christianity, patriotism and respect for sacredness of life.

Even though thirty U.S. States and two Canadian provinces had legalized eugenics policies (including forced sterilization of the unfit) between 1907-1945, the statistical science and political application of eugenics ground to a screeching halt by the end of World War 2 and as Huxley iterated in his manifesto, something new had to be done.

A Word on Tavistock

Huxley also worked very closely with London’s Tavistock Clinic that received funding from both Rockefeller and Macy Foundations throughout the 1930s-1950s.

Led by a psychiatrist named Brigadier General John Rawlings Rees, Tavistock can be best understood as the “psychiatric branch of the British Empire” established in 1921 which innovated psychiatric techniques using mixtures of Pavlovian behaviorism and Freudian theories to influence group behavior in a variety of ways.

Early on, the clinic explored the extreme mental conditions of shell shock victims who suffered cases of psychological deconstruction during the terrors of trench warfare recognizing the high degree of malleability in these subjects. As outlined by a brilliant 1996 EIR report by L. Wolfe, the idea behind Tavistock’s was always driven by a goal to figure out how the brain might be “depatterned” and deconstructed in order to be reconstructed anew like a blank slate with the hopes that this insight into individuals might be replicated later among broader social groups, and even whole nations. Many of this research was applied in the form of MK Ultra within the USA and will be the subject of a future report.

G. Brock Chisholm: Tavistockian Czar of World Health

One prominent psychiatrist who spent years working with Rees at Tavistock was a Canadian named G. Brock Chisolm.

In 1948, Chistolm founded a UN-affiliated body called the World Health Organization (WHO) with the aim of promoting mental and physical health of the world. A noble endeavor carrying much responsibility and power requiring a leader with exceptional insight into the nature of sickness and health. Sadly, based upon his own sick views of the nature of mankind and society, Chisholm was certainly the wrong man for the job.

Among the greatest causes of war and mental sickness in Chisholm’s mind were not to be found in imperialism or economic injustice, but rather in society’s belief in right and wrong. Writing in 1946 Chisholm laid out the purpose of “good” psychotherapy and education saying: “the reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of old people- these are the belated objectives of practically all effective psychotherapy”.

But it wasn’t simply the “concept of right and wrong” or “faith in the certainties of old people” which had to be eradicated, but monotheistic religion, family, and patriotism. Speaking eight years later, Chisholm said: “To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas”.

The World Goes Mental

Once UNESCO and the WHO were firmly in place, a third organization was created to drive the funding, and the practice of global mental health.

As outlined by historian Anton Chaitkin, funded primarily by the Macy Foundation, the World Federation of Mental Health (WFMH) was created in 1948. The Macy Foundation itself which was created in 1930 under the leadership of General Marlborough Churchill (cousin to Winston) who had been in charge of covert military intelligence from 1919-1929 in the form of the “Black Chamber”. His new foundation was a part of the Rockefeller machine and used as a conduit to pour money into “health sciences” with a focus on eugenics.

The US technical coordinator to the conference that created the WFMH made the new organization’s origins clearly known. Nina Ridnour wrote “the World Federation for Mental Health… had been created upon the recommendation of the United Nations World Health Organization and UNESCO because they needed a non-governmental mental health organization with which they could cooperate.”

And just who would become the first Director General of the WFMH?

While still acting as the head of London’s Tavistock Clinic, Brigadier General John Rawlings Rees was put in charge of the new body by none other than arch-racist Montagu Norman (head of the Bank of England) who had created the operation out of his National Association for Mental Health run out of his London Thorpe Lodge home.

Describing this strategic battle plan to reform society, Rees said:

If we prepare to come out into the open and to attack the social and national problems of our day, then we must have the shock troops, and these cannot be provided by psychiatry based wholly in institutions. We must have mobile teams of psychiatrists who are free to move around and make contacts with the local area.”

The idea of mobile teams of psychiatric shock troops was an idea advanced by leading grand strategist Lord Bertrand Russell who had written in 1952’s “Impact of Science on Society”:

I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology…. Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called “education.” Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema, and the radio play an increasing part…. It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment.”

The Bi-Polar Cold War and a New Global Paradigm

Over the ensuing years, UNESCO, the WHO and WFMH worked in tandem to coordinate hundreds of influential sub organizations, universities, research labs, and covert science including the CIA’s MK Ultra in order to bring about the desired “mentally healthy” society cleansed of its connections to Christianity, faith in truthfulness, national patriotism or family.

By 1971, the world was ripe for a big change.

The baby boomer targets of this vast social engineering experiment had been inundated by a vast arsenal of cultural warfare on every level. While LSD was spread across campuses of America, and assassinations of western leaders who resisted the new age of wars in Southwest Asia became the norm, the baby boomers watched as their loved ones returned from Vietnam in body bags. “Not trusting anyone over 30” became the new wisdom as love of country was suffocated under the unnatural spread of Anglo-American imperialism abroad and COINTEL PRO-style operations at home.

When the CFR and Trilateral Commission unpegged the US dollar from the gold reserve, a new age of deregulation, consumerism and radical materialism was ushered in causing the baby boomer generation to quickly transmogrify into the 1980s hyper-materialist “me” generation.

On an ecological level, a new ethic of “conservationism” had begun to move from the fringes into the mainstream replacing the former pro-industrial ethic of the producer-creator society that had historically governed the best of western civilization.

Chief among the creators of this new conservation ethic which replaced the idea of “protecting humanity from empire” with “protecting nature from mankind”, was none other than Julian Huxley himself. During the same year that he co-founded the World Wildlife Foundation, Huxley drafted the Morges Manifesto (1961) as the organizing manifesto for the modern ecology movement pitting human civilization in stark contrast to the supposedly closed, mathematical equilibrium of nature.

Huxley co-founded the WWF with arch Malthusians Prince Philip “I want to be reincarnated as a deadly virus” Mountbatten and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

Holdren’s Planetary Regime

By the mid-1970s, one of the leading neo-Malthusians of that era, Paul Ehrlich mentored a young protégé named John Holdren and together they produced a stomach-turning manual called Ecoscience in 1977 where the pair wrote:

Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime- sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all-natural resources, renewable or non-renewable, at least insofar as international implications exist.

Thus, the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market.

The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.

Considering that these words were written just three years after Henry Kissinger’s NSSM-200 report that transformed U.S. foreign policy doctrine from pro-development to pro-population reduction, Holdren’s 1977 words should not be taken lightly.

The Human Genome Project Revives Sleeping Monsters

During the ensuing decades, Holdren became close friends with a Harvard-based Rhodes Scholar and mathematician named Eric Lander who led the Human Genome Project from 1995-2002. Lander announced the success of the unveiling of the fully sequenced human genome in 2003 saying:

The Human Genome Project represents one of the remarkable achievements in the history of science. Its culmination this month signals the beginning of a new era in biomedical research. Biology is being transformed into an information science”.

Commenting on the potential for steering human evolution made possible by Lander’s Human Genome Project and the new developments in mRNA CRISPR technology then unfolding, Sir Richard Dawkins wrote in 2006:

IN THE 1920s and 1930s, scientists from both the political left and right would not have found the idea of designer babies particularly dangerous – though of course they would not have used that phrase. Today, I suspect that the idea is too dangerous for comfortable discussion, and my conjecture is that Adolf Hitler is responsible for the change… I wonder whether, some 60 years after Hitler’s death, we might at least venture to ask what the moral difference is between breeding for musical ability and forcing a child to take music lessons. Or why it is acceptable to train fast runners and high jumpers but not to breed them. I can think of some answers, and they are good ones, which would probably end up persuading me. But hasn’t the time come when we should stop being frightened even to put the question?”

It wasn’t long before Holdren found himself enjoying greater power than he had ever imagined as science czar and architect of Obama’s “evidence-based” program of governance which involved maximizing funding for green tech to decarbonize humanity under new systems of global governance. Lander worked closely with Holdren as the co-chair of Obama’s science council and also with Whitehead Institute President David Baltimore on the creation of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard.

Together Lander and Baltimore oversaw a major 2015 conference on the “new era of biomedical research” that unveiled a new gene modification technology known as CRISPR involving the use of enzymes and RNA found in ecoli which were discovered to have the ability to target DNA sequences and induce various mutations. While it is obvious that this powerful technology offers potential good to humanity as a tool to eliminate hereditary diseases in humans and in crops, CRISPR’s incredible power to fundamentally alter human DNA forever can do unimaginable harm if put into the wrong hands.

At the “historic” international summit on human gene editing in December 2015, conference chairman David Baltimore echoed the creepy words of Julian Huxley during his keynote speech: “over the years, the unthinkable has become conceivable. We’re on the cusp of a new era in human history.”

In January 2021, John Holdren congratulated Erik Lander for being appointed Joe Biden’s Science Czar (Director of White House Science and Technology Policy)- the position formerly held by Holdren.

In this position, Lander has overseen the re-activation of every Obama-era science policy as part of a technocratic overhaul of the US government in conformity with the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset agenda. Using the vast power of the Emergency Authorization Act to bypass the FDA and steamroll gene therapy technologies passing themselves off as “vaccines”, a new social experiment has begun.

CRISPR technology is already being hailed as a key to solving the new mutating strains of COVID-19 and is being used as a “vaccine” for certain tropical diseases as of this writing. The obvious connection between eugenics organizations of yesterday and the rise of modern mRNA operations associated with GAVI and Oxford’s Astra Zeneca unveiled by investigative journalist Whitney Webb earlier this year should be kept firmly in mind.

Will this technology be used by modern-day heirs of Nazi-sponsoring eugenicists in an effort to pick up where Dr. Mengele left off OR will we see this biotechnology serve the interests of humanity under a multipolar paradigm that cherishes national sovereignty, human life, family, and faith?

Future installments in this series will explore the eugenic roots of Transhumanism, Artificial Intelligence, and the Great Reset. We will also tackle the Frankfurt School, the rise of Wiener’s Cybernetics and the program outlined by Bertrand Russell and David Hilbert in 1900 to stuff the entire universe into a stagnant dead cage.

This is part 1 of a 3 part series on the modern history of eugenics which originally appeared on Strategic Culture. Parts 2 and 3 will be published on OffG in the near future, and are already available here.
Matthew Ehret is the Editor-in-Chief of the Canadian Patriot Review, Senior Fellow at the American University in Moscow, BRI Expert on Tactical talk, and has authored 3 volumes of ‘Untold History of Canada’ book series. In 2019 he co-founded the Montreal-based Rising Tide Foundation. This article was recently adapted into a short video found here.

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Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Jun 27, 2021 3:56 PM

“I fought The Enlightenment and Nietsche won.”

At least this ATL commentator shows some apprehension of a long historical process that almost none of the vapid narcissists gathering under the post-Nietzschean paranoia-and-panic banner bother to consider, any more than their genetically pure ancestors did: too much personal culpability involved in that little exercise. Their grandparents, and their grandparents, shoved the whole prickly number under the carpet and now? Their descendents are still up to their ears keeping it there while wailing by the rivers of Babylon for the return of faith in a God they killed for one more night of feasting on his and/or her corpse. But unfortunately it”s” Eat shit and die,” as their Bible used to say.

Dephyant
Dephyant
Jun 24, 2021 2:53 PM

Great editorial. I really appreciate the well researched knowledge with factual links to bygone books and quotes left to download and devour to further back up your documentation. Well done as always Matt. Looking forward to reading the next parts. I love connecting the dots weaved through your articles.

Dissimulator
Dissimulator
Jun 17, 2021 12:02 AM

Christianity, family, faith, patriotism. These are some of the principal lies that brought us here. the “scientifiic experts” have replaced the priests, covid is the new sin and evil that we must reckon with, via the priest surrogates. the vax is the promise of salvation and everyone is a sinner since they all carry the covid genes inside them… whether they get ill or not !

Cranston
Cranston
Jun 16, 2021 8:43 AM

Sure he mentions eugenics, but maybe this isn’t necessarily a racially biased, but a search for a more optimal man. Of course, this is fraught with innumerable problems, such as, who decides what an optimal man looks or quacks like? But nonetheless, to assume that we don’t hem our way to the borders of our potential in order to see to the next horizon of endeavour is a little short sighted. It would be cruel to erase people with undesirable traits, obviously. But a world in which physical or mental ailments no longer dogged humanity would be preferable as these illnesses make the quality of a person suffering an ailment, potentially, less enjoyable. I think we are dealing with a naïve man rather a nefarious one here.

James
James
Jul 27, 2021 8:03 PM
Reply to  Cranston

As Paul wrote in his letter to the Galatians, “Be not deceived: God is not mocked.”

Only a fool tries to play Him; only the foolhardy challenge Him.

Cranston
Cranston
Jun 16, 2021 8:28 AM

“And in the preamble to its Constitution it expressly repudiates racialism and any belief in superior or inferior “races,” nations, or ethnic groups.” Why does Huxley say this if he is a eugenicist? Moreover, it seems confusing that he makes UNESCO impartial. I expect that this is probably to hide his true agenda, I suppose.

James Charles
James Charles
Jun 15, 2021 9:02 PM

“HR Executive: Firms are Planning to have their Vaccinated Staff Replaced within the Next 3 Years “?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HKpABJ2D9bRF/

Nexus321
Nexus321
Jun 14, 2021 5:46 AM

Excellent article. Looking forward to the next parts.

Terry Silk
Terry Silk
Jun 14, 2021 12:07 AM

Absolutely brilliant article and right on point with James Corbett and others. Every thinking person should read this and pass it on, Not comfortable reading but essential.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jun 13, 2021 11:22 PM

This Article by Matthew Ehret is completely Brilliant.
I have nothing to add to it. Yeh, I have had The Tavistock Treatment too, but refused to go on the final course, cos I witnessed what it did it did to my mate. It completely changed him. No spark any more. Now a company man. Great at doing a performance, but no original content, from what was a great mind. Just now being programmed to say, what he he had programmed to say. Still a nice man, but no content…

They had brainwashed him, removed his mind by using his deepest fears against him, when he was confident, and least expected it., and replaced it.

I couldn’t take it any more and RESIGNED

I Knew it was Bollocks. Do you want to see the London Bus?

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Tony

Jean
Jean
Jun 13, 2021 7:12 PM

I guess you have seen the “bright future” prepared for us by the World Economic Forum. Here’s in another one, written in Feb. 2020 by the govt of Canada. It’s called “Exploring Biodigital Convergence”. Please click on “Good Morning Biodigital” on the Table of Contents. You’ll find gems, like these (among many others). Everything is fine beside freedom.

“Everything looks all right, so I check my brain’s digital interface to read the dream data that was recorded and processed in real time last night. My therapy app analyzes the emotional responses I expressed while I slept”

“While I’m brushing my teeth, Jamie, my personal AI, asks if I’d like a delivery drone to come pick up my daughter’s baby tooth, which fell out two days ago. The epigenetic markers in children’s teeth have to be analysed and catalogued on our family genetic blockchain in order to qualify for the open health rebate, so I need that done today.”

“Also, I’ll admit that it sounds gross, but it’s a good thing the municipality samples our fecal matter from the sewage pipes. It’s part of the platform to analyze data on nutritional diversity, gut bacteria, and antibiotic use, to aid with public health screening and fight antibiotic-resistant strains of bacterial infections.”

Link: https://archive.is/0W9Rm#selection-1329.0-1329.327

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 29, 2021 1:12 PM
Reply to  Jean

Horrifying. But if they believe all that and think it is great why are they trying to finish us off ?

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 13, 2021 6:48 PM

Good to see the origins of the WHO getting a public airing. A few more people will be able to understand how well qualified the present leader is for the job.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 13, 2021 4:38 PM

“I wonder whether, some 60 years after Hitler’s death, we might at least venture to ask what the moral difference is between breeding for musical ability and forcing a child to take music lessons.”

Just bugger off, Dawkins.
You’re a nasty person and having “Sir” in front of your name doesn’t change that one bit.

You make this example an issue between two alternative propositions, but the glaringly obvious third proposition, which you probably ignore because you are not at all musical yourself, (i.e. you are musically handicapped, unfit, inferior and probably deserving of sterilization) is the child who is not ‘forced’ to take music lessons, but is encouraged by the mere presence of good music in his/her environment to feel drawn towards its inspiring qualities, along with many other widely-varied possibilities.

Your example pretends that the matter is confined to a restricted choice between two propositions which are not even mutually exclusive.

In addition, your opportunistic Hyde-Park-Corner provocation syndrome is closely related to common-or-garden attention-craving syndrome, which is another aberration ripe for addition to the list of those conditions which reveal specimens of humanity which are in fact found to be badly wanting in that very ‘human’ component considered by the best of our species to be indispensible for meaningful life.

In your case, Oxford was a mistake.

richard
richard
Jun 13, 2021 9:25 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Sir Richard Dawkins, like Sir David Attenborough has produced some amazing stuff.

Strangely, in old age, they seem to have gone off the rails.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 13, 2021 10:51 PM
Reply to  richard

I used to find him fascinating – for about a year.
But his ego is much too inflated.
He’s another one who thinks he’s God – understandable enough, I suppose, since he doesn’t recognize any being greater than himself.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 13, 2021 11:16 PM
Reply to  richard

I don’t think I’ve seen much of a change in Attenborough over the seventy years since I first saw him on a neighbour’s TV.
His infectious enthusiasm for the wonders of Nature could hardly be faked over such a long period, but it seems to me reasonable to assume a certain naivety on his part concerning matters which go beyond his chosen field – which is admittedly a huge field.

He is really pretty old now, and so famous that people seek his opinion on all sorts of matters which have never really interested him. Matters where he has no more to say than anybody else.
But I wouldn’t designate that as having ‘gone off the rails’.
He is truly one of the most remarkable people I have ever come across, and that won’t have changed by the time he comes to the end of an amazing life.

Dawkins, on the other hand, was born off the rails – undoubtedly through no fault of his own.
I am not bitter about such people, but my jaw does drop sometimes at the wilful waste of human intellect.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 14, 2021 8:52 AM
Reply to  wardropper

It is what he and hisl ilk, such as Jane Goodall, leave unsaid. They ignore research showing that aboriginal and native peoples have been instrumental in conserving nature. They prefer the alternative: herding the masses into towns and leaving the rest of the planet to the wise management of the overlords.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 14, 2021 11:30 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Yes, indeed.
I also suspect that at least part of what he leaves unsaid is because he doesn’t know anything about it.
That’s a plus, of course, but a genuinely inquiring mind – especially a famous one – tries to know something about most things.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 13, 2021 10:01 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I met Dawkins once. He was coming to do a talk at a local school and was meant to bring his then wife Lalla Ward. She was the one I really wanted to meet (to check out her selfish genes – ARF!) but she had to opt out for reasons I can’t recall. So I was stuck with him!

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 13, 2021 11:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I didn’t know about Lalla 🙂

I’m convinced now that he is just an Oxford version of the trolls we see all over the media today. His thought processes are obtuse, self-fulfilling circles of prophesy which use graceless denial as both a first and a last resort.

But what do I know? I didn’t go to Oxford.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 14, 2021 8:14 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I once read a great piss take of John Lennon’s Imagine as rewritten by Dawkins. It went something like this:

“Imagine, if you will, that there is no heaven
I think you’ll find it easy if you try
Probably no hell below us
Above us, in fact, only sky

Imagine all the people
Were as clever as I

You may say I’m from Oxford
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
For some sherry and a bun”

Aethelred
Aethelred
Jun 14, 2021 9:41 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Well spotted. Dawkins, like the other social engineers mentioned in this article, sees humanity as the object of compulsion, and he the compeller.

Erik
Erik
Jun 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Was forced to study classical music as a child. Got quite good at several instruments. Hated it. Haven’t touched either of them since leaving my parents house.

Would never wish what I went through on my child. Being modified prior to birth for the same purpose would be worse.

Go to hell Dick Dorkins

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 14, 2021 11:46 PM
Reply to  Erik

Very sad to hear that.
I was never forced to study classical music, but I loved it from my earliest years of hearing it on BBC radio. My father loved it too, and although he was not a very active practical musician, he knew a lot about the subject, and his enthusiasm was infectious.

I only mention this as an example of a different scenario from yours.
I couldn’t be kept away from a piano if there was one anywhere near, and although I was no better than anybody else as an ivory tickler when I was six years old, I later ended up doing pretty well as a concert pianist after a musical education second to none.

It would have been typical of me to rebel if I had been forced to take lessons, and I can even admit there were times I would have preferred to enjoy Saturdays with my pals instead of going to piano lessons.

But I was hooked, and my teacher was an inspiration. It was the music itself which did that to me. Nothing to do with parental control. I wish every musician could have such a start to their career, but at least some do, thank heaven.

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 13, 2021 3:43 PM

The moe I dig into Biology and Physics the more I think they are both operating on massively faulty paradigms – and faulty in the same way. It’s a macro and micro thing, the universe within and without being fundamentally misconceived. I guess it could be accidental – both came up with faulty paradigms that happen to resemble each other independently – but the “as above, so below” nature of it reeks of secret society manipulation.

Both attach far too much importance to teeny-weeny little particles (pathogens in Biology, atoms in Physics – heck, even light is claimed to be a particle if only out of desperation about how light waves could travel through the vacuum of space… they can’t).These teeny-weeny particles can’t be seen and verified by ordinary people so one needs very expensive lab tech paid for by those kind disinterested foundations to study them. Both attach far too little importance to electricity. The universe and the body look to be much more electrical in their functioning than “the science” says (or “the science” that will get on telly – there are plenty of Biologists and Physicists who’ve been arguing this for years).

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Jun 13, 2021 6:33 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Specifically electromagnetism, which is how light travels through space, by the way.

QuickDraw
QuickDraw
Jun 13, 2021 3:21 PM

It is only logical for a creature that is aware that it has evolved to contribute to its further evolution–if you actually believe the Darwinian fairy tale. Of course, the idea that humans can be consistently logical is nonsense, but the idea of eugenics is bad? Why? Why should we let mentally retarded people breed, so we have more public school teachers and university professors? Why should we let psychopaths breed, so we have more politicians and military leaders? Oh, you have some congenital disease? By all means, breed and pass it on makes total sense. Look at the money spent on welfare in the US the majority of which goes to truly useless eaters. If you want a welfare check then it is time to see the vet and get spayed and/or neutered.

richard
richard
Jun 13, 2021 9:29 PM
Reply to  QuickDraw

To the eugenicists, you are a useless eater.

Who, tell me, gets to decide who lives and who dies?

Wil
Wil
Jun 13, 2021 3:03 PM

Mark, Jeff, Billy, Elon are all very busy racing to the “1st Trillion”… The great Reset is well on it’s way… And the “Sheeple” line up for their “Jabs”…….

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 12:21 PM

Brilliant article. Thanks for all the info-rich “hidden” history and connections to all these sick and sorry, sad little homeboys, er, eugenicists, er, dear hearts. I will now follow further all the links with a wondering if critical eye.

Must-read.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 14, 2021 5:47 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

(When I put it as a “wondering if critical eye” I hope to spare the time in due diligence to all these issues and histories that Ehret has detailed, tearing a page from Rosemary Frei and several others, in fact-checking all this in depth, since the architecture of these UNESCO and UN networks and tentacles bear the imprint of such odd and distinctive -and unelected- personalities. I worked over a month in Esteban E. Torres office in ’88, he told me 20 years later he had been Jimmy Carter’s appointee to UNESCO. I even had a long dinner conversation one night with Julian Huxley’s sister-in-law, Laura Huxley. She seemed to me a real innocent, as a friend of Timothy Leary and widow of Aldous, but then even Marshall McLuhan seemed to have been bamboozled by Leary. It was McLuhan who coined for Leary his tagline, by the way, over lunch one day:”Turn on, tune in, drop out.”

Yeah, right? McLuhan was even an ardent Catholic and Mariolatrist, first drawn to the faith by Chesterton, as I was intrigued to find, since I had experienced that same very startling result.

Hard to figure. But then I find that epistemology, like life, is a funny old dog. Some seem to know so much, and from other vantages, almost nothing. Aldous and Dawkins ad Bertrand come to mind. They remind me of Oscar Wilde’s brief story, “The Remarkable Rocket” or of colorful balloons. So eye-catching, by certain bright light, until they encounter an object as sharp and pointed as they are bright!)

This article, even before further study of its subjects, brings to light the many strange roots of our current debacle. Just an awful fix. But knowledge and understanding of them sow the seeds for possible antidotes. Maybe we can devise a sort of psyop vaccine! Lol

exiled off mainstreet
exiled off mainstreet
Jun 13, 2021 9:54 AM

It is a good discussion of the history linking Nazi elimination of “Nutzlose Esser” (useless eaters) and British eugenics supports. It also shows the continuity between the Nazi era and the present day death jabs.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 12:29 PM

I am fascinated that so very many of my favorite people were those who were targeted by the Nazis for “eugenic” discretion.

I believe I will found my own home-grown School of Counter-Eugenics with such persons as its avatars, in all their humanity. The exceptions to Nazi rules.

The exceptions may hope to be the new rule. There.

“Weirdos!”

LOL!

Tanya Marquette
Tanya Marquette
Jun 13, 2021 1:42 PM

Oh this is interesting. Bush the second referred to “useless eaters” who are the
poor in the public and people of color as well, not doubt. Not surprising to see/read the origin of his words.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jun 13, 2021 4:51 AM

All The Newspapers are Telling Us what happens next, as if THEY are in Control…but No Festivals have been Cancelled Yet, and we won’t have a clue…

Until The Fat Boy Sings on Monday….and tells us to take off all our masks, and cuddle and sing…Get Back to Normal.

Or Boris Johnston is History

Just Another Waste of Space.

Come on You Prime Minister, Let us out Cuddle and Sing.

And get the Show Back on The Road, or we might get Angry.

You do not want that.

useless cunts

Tony

Max
Max
Jun 13, 2021 8:12 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Why would you like to wait for the riffraff’s permission? What holds you back?

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jun 13, 2021 11:36 PM
Reply to  Max

AC/DC riff raff. “If you want blood you’ve got it”. Best Live album of all time, so far as I am concerned. I blame them for making me a bit deaf. You might hear me screaming for more.

Caltrop
Caltrop
Jun 13, 2021 4:26 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1399165896925528074/D00ewF7d?format=jpg&name=small

Blackrock is buying every single family house they can find, paying 20-50% above asking price and outbidding normal home buyers.
June 11, 2021 by IWB   

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.”……………….

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/blackrock-is-buying-every-single-family-house-they-can-find-paying-20-50-above-asking-price-and-outbidding-normal-home-buyers/

Big al
Big al
Jun 13, 2021 4:44 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

I’ve received many notices in the mail asking me if I’m interested in selling my house. “Cash payment, condition doesn’t matter, etc.”. For the first time, I received a phone call last week doing the same thing. The lady on the phone asked if I was who I was, so I hesitantly said yes, then she kind of slowly asked if I’d be interested in selling my house. That’s it, nothing about price or why or anything. It’s not like I have a special house or anything, it’s a ranch house on a typical block among many in a suburb. They could have, and probably did, picked any on the block for the same purpose. Of course, who knows if she was from Blackrock, there’s plenty playing this game, but it certainly is a step up.
Btw, I told her no and hung up. Greed is quite irritating.

Edith
Edith
Jun 13, 2021 5:19 AM
Reply to  Caltrop

Sorry folks but a private bank already does control the currency…how is it that isn’t known?

NickM
NickM
Jun 13, 2021 6:47 AM
Reply to  Edith

The same Rothschild bank that controls Black Rock.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 12:32 PM
Reply to  NickM

Larry Fink (Founder, BlackRock)

Banque de Rothschild, where a very young Macron got his start.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2021 2:14 AM

Superb article Matthew, and appreciated the links as well, some of the info contained within I had know idea about, such as John Maynard Keynes being heavily involved in the Eugenics movement.
Grotesque and satanic are about the only words I can come up with to describe the plans of these monsters. What a coincidence that covid came along so they can now push the jab poison onto so many human beings.
Some links here – one on fascism and the Great Reset, and the other on Julia Gillard the former Australian Prime Minister and current Chairperson of the Wellcome Trust.
https://winteroak.org.uk/acorn/
https://www.9news.com.au/national/julia-gillard-named-chair-wellcome-trust-large-medical-trust-funding-coronavirus-treatments/efbc83e4-75eb-460a-af12-b5d3a5248ffc

Edith
Edith
Jun 13, 2021 5:24 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

That didn’t make my Sunday hearing that Gillard is off to be important elsewhere..get those medical experiments rolling along.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 13, 2021 8:34 AM
Reply to  Edith

Gillard is as qualified as the vile Jane Halton, and she has an amazing record of making innocent human beings very mentally ill. the Eugenics society is just the right place for her red necked ignorant racism

James Charles
James Charles
Jun 13, 2021 10:17 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

If ‘they’ had wanted to ‘poison’ people, then, ‘they’ have chosen a very inefficient {short term} method?
” . . . the nippa virus
49:03 which is uh currently in the in
49:07 in the india subcontinent and my
49:09 understanding
49:10 is that uh the uh the mortality
49:13 uh is uh right around 100 for the nipa
49:16 virus
 peter dayzak and and his group at
49:20 equal health
49:21 is involved in experimentation with the
49:23 nipah virus . . . ”

Masterclass on SARS-CoV-2

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2021 10:25 AM
Reply to  James Charles

Thanks James, just watching the intro now and continue after dinner, cheers👍

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 13, 2021 5:08 PM
Reply to  James Charles

This is truly excellent. Utterly reasonable, and completely focused on us all keeping our minds open and willing to listen.
He gives examples of how one thing leads to another only if it is credible, and how anything calling itself ‘science’ has to be credible.
He even admits that people such as myself, who do not automatically believe everything he says, can persuade him to change his mind – if their arguments are credible – and he also points out why, for example, some statements by Fauci (who is apparently a scientist) are not credible and raise red flags for intelligent people.
You can’t say fairer than that…

I have to say here and now that I have not watched all of this video yet, so I reserve the right to change the opinion above into its exact opposite if something not credible comes to light when I get round to doing so.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 11:34 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Not only credible as science, but surely repeatable.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 14, 2021 11:48 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Which ought to be practically the same thing, really, but that doesn’t always seem to be the case these days.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 19, 2021 1:08 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Many seem not to have noticed such a glaring thing! That’s when scientism “ascends” to a putative divinity, and as such propels a medical coup d’etat and dictatorship.

les online
les online
Jun 13, 2021 1:45 AM

i’ve decided to have an opinion-free sunday; will do some cavorting and canoodling instead.

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
Jun 13, 2021 4:15 AM
Reply to  les online

That sounds a good idea. Are you based in France?

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
Jun 12, 2021 11:03 PM

A lot of people, who write here, give me the distinct impression, they don’t like me. I don’t worry about it too much. I am just amazed when anything I write appears here.

Yes, I could run my own blog, but doing that, brings with it a lot of responsibility. I would have to moderate the comments from the psycho’s or I might get sued, from what they write on my blog…if I see it and don’t delete it before I get a knock on the door from The Secret Police. I am getting quite old, and can’t be arsed with that…So I wrote this…You do not have to publicise it, but I don’t mind if you do.

Our Garden looks like a Young Child’s Playground, and that is OK, because that is what it is. Hopefully, the Parents of our Grandchildren’s friends, will let their friends come round soon.

My Wife is a fully qualified Registered Childminder. They even checked me out, took about a year.

She used to charge, cos it was her Business looking after kids, and she paid quite a lot of tax.

HMRC have finally decided, that she doesn’t have to fill in a tax form again.

She doesn’t charge now. The kids can come for Free.

Not sure about some of the Parents though.

Is it O.K. If we dump our kids on you?

Such is Life.

Thank God, I’m still a kid too.

I don’t mind.

COVID has sent a lot of people mad.

Tony

Waldorf
Waldorf
Jun 13, 2021 11:56 AM
Reply to  tony_0pmoc

“Yes, I could run my own blog, but doing that, brings with it a lot of responsibility. I would have to moderate the comments from the psycho’s or I might get sued, from what they write on my blog…if I see it and don’t delete it before I get a knock on the door from The Secret Police. I am getting quite old, and can’t be arsed with that…So I wrote this…You do not have to publicise it, but I don’t mind if you do.”
Sure. This blog can take the risk. But you still want to get your views out there.
And you wonder why there are people who don’t like you.

Big al
Big al
Jun 12, 2021 10:38 PM

“The greatest tyrannies are always perpetuated in the name of the noblest causes.” Thomas Paine

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of it’s victims may be the most oppressive.” C.S. Lewis

“When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty” Thomas Jefferson

Deja vu all over again. We been here before, everything’s bigger, but it’s still the same. We have to bridge the divide and conquer tactics. I was in a store yesterday standing in line. The person at the counter was a young hispanic kid, had the pants halfway down the butt the way some kids still like to do, and he bought these smoke things, don’t even know what they are, vapes I guess, about 20 bucks each. I remarked to the guy in front of me who wasn’t wearing a mask, looked like cowboy type, big dude, buzz cut hair, that I wondered if you could get high from those things because of the price. He kind of grunted and didn’t really respond to my small talk. He didn’t look too friendly to this aging long haired, tie dyed wearing hippie or the minority kid with the pants down his butt. Then he went to the counter and asked for three cans of smokeless tobacco which were about the same price as the kid’s vapes. Three different people, probably all agree about this bullshit we’re going thru (the kid wasn’t wearing a mask either, nor was I), but somehow divided by purposely constructed barriers. It’s not all media, it’s not all political parties, it’s how we’ve allowed our societies to develop. It’s pretty clear here in the U.S., has been since the sixties really. That brought it all out. We’re just going to have try again.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 12, 2021 10:55 PM
Reply to  Big al

Had the same experience yesterday. The suburb I was working in, only saw 3 people the whole day without a mask on, yet people came up and still purchased off me despite me not wearing a facemask. I actually sold out in fact.
I got the strong impression maybe 25% of them knew it was all complete bullshit, yet they were still going along with it.
I even had a cop car drive past and was expecting them to stop and come over and ask why I was maskless. Nope, they went into the nearby cafe, got their coffees and left.
The barista of that cafe who I know knew the mask thing was crap. One of those three people I saw not wearing one knew there was no pandemic and it was a giant scam because I spoke to him last year.
But yesterday, despite my cheerful greeting and asking how he was, he wouldn’t stop and kept walking.
A second person, tried to strike up a conversation with him, but he made it clear he didn’t want to talk.
You’re right Big Al… a lot of divide and conquer tactics going on here.

Nexus321
Nexus321
Jun 14, 2021 5:44 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I’m sitting in a shopping centre having a coffee in Sydney with lots of people milling about. Only seen one person with a mask on.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 14, 2021 6:41 AM
Reply to  Nexus321

Mandatory masks inside and outside here in Melbourne. You know, raging pandemic and all that. Just went to a laundromat, whole heap of washing, maskless of course, the two other people in there didn’t say a word. They just stared at their phones.
Then went to Coles, walked past the lady at the entrance with the QR code table. She didn’t even blink.
Spent nearly 20 mins walking round Coles then went to the self serve checkout, paid cash. Then went to the info desk for, er, “items”. Cough. Then went back to the laundry and collected my washing. A few more in there by then.
The whole time, not one person said a word. No one stared. Nothing.
I only spotted one other person in Coles without a mask on, and almost called out hello, but she looked a bit nervous, and turned down an aisle before I was close enough.
I hope your coffee was good…

Sooty
Sooty
Jun 19, 2021 4:10 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Sydney doesn’t give a fuck……thanks to Gladies. Good on her.

John Milton
John Milton
Jun 12, 2021 10:56 PM
Reply to  Big al

Some people are just miserable.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 12:47 PM
Reply to  Big al

Thanks for the quotes, Big al. (Problem with Paine exposes the infectious irony: he was rhetorical point man for the most tyrannical of all “anti-tyrants” to date: the signers of the US Constitution and what soon became fully the USA Inc. System, LLC ).

To go global, in a good way, Jefferson calls to mind Gandhi saying, that when government has become organized crime it becomes a citizen’s sacred duty to resist it.

The C. S. Lewis quote might have come from his preface to Screwtape Letters!

Thom ST. Rock
Thom ST. Rock
Jun 12, 2021 9:53 PM
Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Jun 12, 2021 9:30 PM

Good article. The current resurgence of eugenics fits perfectly with the technocratic worldview pushed by the WEF and its acolytes. Under the guise of “science” (which is really Scientism, i.e. science as political ideology) they claim all of their biological and transhumanist tinkering is for the benefit of mankind and that they simply want to “help” humanity live healthier and more fulfilling lives.

Because obscenely wealthy oligarchs have always been known for their selflessness and their commitment to humanitarian ideals…lol.

How long before euthanasia becomes an acceptable “solution” to the burdensome task of, say, caring for a child with Down’s Syndrome? After all, you’d be doing it to “help” the kid and put it out of its misery so you can sleep easy at night knowing you’re a caring person who “did the right thing.”

Turn science – a method of inquiry that objectively tests hypotheses about the physical (i.e. observable) aspects of the world and the universe – into a religious ideology that purports to find technocratic solutions for moral and ethical conundrums related to governance, politics and the human condition, and it’s not long before the eugenics handbook is dusted off, revised (no longer called ‘eugenics’ of course) and reprinted for a new, ideologically primed audience.

Scientism and technocracy use methods that are perfectly fine for designing and building hydroelectric dams and aircraft engines (physical and observable) and apply them to the task of “managing” human beings and human societies. Treating humans and the challenges of governing and coexistence dispassionately and “objectively” is dehumanizing in the extreme and can only result in eventual disaster.

There is a reason the humanities are called what they are and are separate disciplines from the physical (hard) sciences. It is true that the humanities departments in western academic institutions are currently overrun with delusional woke ideologues but this state of affairs is temporary and denigrating the humanities as a concept is a textbook throwing the baby out with the bath water error.

One would not use philosophy to design a radio telescope and it is similarly foolish, and dangerous, to apply STEM thinking to philosophical problems concerning good government, the good life etc. for which the humanities are perfectly suited.

If we are to avoid going further down the technocratic rabbit hole and courting major disaster, the psychopathic STEMlords of Silicon Valley, the WEF and the technocratic elite need to be cut down to size and put in their place and the humanities need to be purged of the woke identity warriors and their half-baked ideological lunacy. The fact that the globalist STEM crowd and the wokes are batting for the same team despite ostensibly being on opposing sides speaks volumes.

This isn’t about trashing science and STEM or glorifying philosophy and the humanities, it’s about using the right tools for the right job. Both STEM and the humanities are essential tools that humans can’t do without but currently half of the tools have been corrupted and are being used as ideological cudgels with which to beat the populace into submission, while the other half have been taken over by psychopathic technocrats who use them to dehumanize and “manage” humans using science as a cover.

Together these two factions have launched a massive social engineering project that menaces humanity on multiple levels. Several years ago I was thinking “hmm, I wonder how long it will take before eugenics makes a comeback and under what guise it will be smuggled into respectable society?” Well, that time is now and they are doing it to “help” people and to “save” humanity from infectious diseases, overpopulation, crazy people etc.

Of course it’s only the proles and the troublemakers (sinners) that need to be “helped” and “saved.” Our technocratic overlords are already all-wise and all-knowing and by gifting us with their expertise they are doing us a favour for which we should be grateful. Only a conspiracy theorist would think otherwise 😉

Edith
Edith
Jun 13, 2021 5:29 AM
Reply to  Eric Blair

That’s the trouble with these bloody planets….some come around and bring back the old themes…Uranus is doing a tour of Taurus as it did in the 30’s and raising many of the issues all over again….I can but hope when it reaches Gemini again it will have those Nuremberg trials organised again…smile

Arby
Arby
Jun 13, 2021 9:52 AM
Reply to  Eric Blair

Peter Abraham made an interesting point below about the young mind grasping math and science better than the older mind, but failing at… life. That popped into my mind when reading your excellent comment, above. The youngest President, JFK (a terrorist who even today is worshipped by almost everyone, Right, Left and in between, such is the power of white), had his ‘action intellectuals’ (technocrats), such as Robert McNamara, running the Vietnam War. From pages 8 & 9 of “For Reasons Of State” by Noam Chomsky:

=== =
Furthermore, the technician who is concerned with transforming counterinsurgency theory into operational reality in the absence of laboratory control need not concern himself with the origin of the idea that the Viet Cong may be Chinese agents. This “issue,” a hypothesis originating in someone else’s department, merely sets the terms of the technical problem, which the counterinsurgent theorist is therefore free to address, understanding nothing. Facts are no more relevant to him than they were to Dean Acheson when he urged aid and recognition for the Bao Dai government in May 1949 to safeguard Vietnam from “aggressive designs of Commie Chi” (DOD, bk. 8, pp. 190-1).

In fact, the function of the hypothesis is transparent: by assuming it, one can squarely face the problem of repressing the nationalist movement of Vietnam, untroubled by sentimental moral qualms, since the enemy is really China (or perhaps the Kremlin, which is directing a “coordinated offensive” against Southeast Asia), not Vietnam. This kind of thinking, it that is the right word, goes a long way towards explaining the barbarism of the Vietnam war, in which the world’s most advanced technology is pitted against the nationalist movement “captured” by the Viet Cong…

“It is difficult to plot aggression “under the lights of a democracy.” How much more convenient it is merely to face technical problems, as neutral in an ethical sense as those of physics.”
= ===

I guess that you can be an action intellectual or just wise. Action is good, depending. JFK was not a thinker, although he was confident and poised and appeared to be. Kennedy sought glory through foreign policy (not domestic policy such as civil rights) and the concept of the “internal enemy,” which meant ‘the people’, originated in the Kennedy administration. Kennedy was not a political innovator, except tangentially in applying Keynesianism to the military. Kennedy was utterly conventional and as a Senator accomplished nothing noteworthy other than the usual anti-communist blather. As President, he was instrumental in making counterrevolution and counterinsurgency (war against the people) an industry and, essentially, a policy of government. See my essay “Thinking About Thinking.”

Judith
Judith
Jun 13, 2021 11:22 AM
Reply to  Arby

Power comes in all colors. Not just white.

Arby
Arby
Jun 13, 2021 2:27 PM
Reply to  Judith

No one is saying otherwise. But the greater power, among the human race, has been represented in the Anglo/American segment of humanity. For example, the world is run by the transnational capitalist class and the some 17 financial giants. While that club is not exclusive when it comes to race, it’s actual membership (as Maximilian Forte notes) is predominantly American and, I believe, white American. In my essay, which I don’t know whether you read or not, I also talk about the White Helmets. I wasn’t talking solely about race.

*I just noticed that I had not even linked to that essay in the above quote, so I don’t know why you made that comment.

Also, in the Christian Bible, which you may or may not have any use for (which is absolutely your choice), the dual Anglo/American world power makes up the seventh head on the 2nd 7 headed wild beast of the book of Revelation. It’s a human political entity (which is why the angel told John that 666 is a man’s number; used in the Bible to symbolize missing the mark from God’s standpoint) and the Bible notes that it gets its authority from the dragon, namely the first 7 headed wild beast of Revelation. The dragon is identified as Satan, who today has taken on the role of Gog (meaning darkness). The political wild beast has seven heads because there have been seven dominant world powers since Egypt who, from the Bible’s standpoint, have taken a stand against Jehovah and engaged in the persecution of his people. 1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon 4. Medo-Persia 5. Greece 6. Rome 7. Britain/America.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 12:52 PM
Reply to  Eric Blair

Truth be told, Scientism at its root is less political ideology than religious dogma. Politics is merely its praxis form.

From my peasant point of view, it is a convenient term for the more easily overtable aspects of “occultism”, which is a polite term for godless materialism, which is “sanitized” form for devil(s) worship.

But to publish that would be reactionary.

For an exiled peasant.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 1:11 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

“It is quaint that people talk about separating dogma from education. Dogma is actually the only thing that cannot be separated from education. It IS education. A teacher who is not dogmatic is simply a teacher who is not teaching.”

G. K. Chesterton, “What’s Wrong With The World”

Big al
Big al
Jun 12, 2021 8:30 PM

Just resist, man. That’s all we can do. Tell other people, solidify your family and friends, create networks, prepare for the worst and hope for the best. All that. There are alot of us and we’re talking about freedom, again. Freedom ain’t going away either. That’s never going away. Fuck that.

Paul Rexton
Paul Rexton
Jun 12, 2021 7:54 PM

”The Euro 2020 match between Denmark and Finland resumed Saturday after Danish soccer player Christian Eriksen collapsed in the first half of the game.”

Vaccine?

I’ve seen a few unexpected deaths of young people over the past few weeks.

swami
swami
Jun 12, 2021 8:06 PM
Reply to  Paul Rexton

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Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 12, 2021 10:11 PM
Reply to  swami

And stupid Australians are so brainwashed they think 1. there has been a pandemic 2. the tests are real. 3 4 people under 50 ‘dead’ in April last year is reason to keep locking down and having poison jabs.

Justin Obodie
Justin Obodie
Jun 13, 2021 12:17 AM

See that you are still paying attention Marylin. It’s all getting very serious now, hope you are travelling well. Poison indeed.

Justin Obodie
Justin Obodie
Jun 13, 2021 12:21 AM

Marilyn, actually it is 5 people under 50 dead from Covid – all males. The vaccine has now killed more women under 50 than the virus.

jimbo
jimbo
Jun 13, 2021 7:03 AM
Reply to  Justin Obodie

Yep mate. U gots that right. abc (murdererdoch’s aussie bull. corp) spews out the scamdemic fear porn non-stop!!! disgraceful but intellectual disgrace gleams from every know-nothing face. talk now of criminalising the vax-hesitant. hey it’s always been a PENAL COLONY. whadda friggin joke. SHEESH

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 13, 2021 8:36 AM
Reply to  Justin Obodie

Nah the scabs had the gall to state that the kid who committed suicide in quarantine died of covid. Not a single person has got sick in quarantine.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jun 13, 2021 9:38 AM
Reply to  Justin Obodie

Bear in mind “dying with covid” is not the same as being killed by the virus. It just means they received a positive PCR at some point probably while sick with something else. Even if that wasn’t a false positive (and it likely was) that still does not provide any evidence they were even infected with SARSCOV2 let alone died from it.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 13, 2021 3:53 AM
Reply to  swami

Not to mention CJD, ALS, Alzheimers, other autoimmune diseases, heart inflammation and infertility

October
October
Jun 12, 2021 8:07 PM
Reply to  Paul Rexton

Not only young people. But yes, sudden deaths for no given reason.

magumba
magumba
Jun 13, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  Paul Rexton

And sad to say the stage is being set for the unvaccinated to be blamed for the upcoming slaughter of the innocents with child vaccinations.Unvaccinated people are about to be taken to the level of paedophiles and mass murderers in the closed minds of the new cult adherents and the government orchestrated campaign will serve a multitude of uses once the lynchings start (metaphorically speaking of course…that couldn’t happen….could it?) .Imagine martial law being imposed to ‘save’ the unjabbed from the hordes of screaming mothers wanting blood,imagine internment camps for our (the unjabbed) own protection with property seizures as an added bonus,all these are possibilities and not a forced vaccination in sight

If you want to see what your new accomodation looks like check out 5 wells prison at the link below,the privately run superjail which i have a horrible feeling is going to suffer function creep sooner rather than later and all banged up (excuse the pun) in 48 weeks

https://www.kier.co.uk/our-projects/hmp-five-wells/

Barovsky
Barovsky
Jun 12, 2021 7:52 PM

Talking of Bertrand Russell:

The idea of mobile teams of psychiatric shock troops was an idea advanced by leading grand strategist Lord Bertrand Russell who had written in 1952’s “Impact of Science on Society”:

Before the Soviets acquired the Atomic Bomb, Russell was advocating preemptive atomic bombing of the Soviet Union but he quickly changed his mind, after they got the Bomb and was subsequently instrumental in the creation of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. I think the North Koreans had a quick lesson in power politics.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 12, 2021 7:48 PM

A wonderful and detailed assembly of factoids as usual from Mr. Ehret with the usual one sided conclusions as to whom or what is to blame ? I look forward to the next installment.

Willem
Willem
Jun 12, 2021 7:18 PM
Reply to  Willem

And if he was, will he be the only one during the championships who suffers from such an event or will others follow?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 12, 2021 7:53 PM
Reply to  Willem

Pro golf has decided the covid plague is over. Mr. Rahm is known to be ill tempered and a bit erratic . He may well have been offered up as a sacrifice to those who insist the plague is still on ? And anyone who reads this news-site is aware of the high degree of error in PCR testing.

David Matthews
David Matthews
Jun 12, 2021 8:10 PM
Reply to  Willem

Very interesting line of thought Willem!

Now consider one of Eriksen’s former team mates; Harry Kane wants to move clubs and there is talk of a fee in excess of … I’m not sure how many 000s. This is one very valuable man and the value is not just in him “having an eye for the ball”, he’s also a very fine physical specimen.

So how do the selling and buying clubs in any possible transfer deal view his “vaccination status”? Has he had the jabs? Will he take it when invited? Will the contract have a clause?

I think we should be told.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 19, 2021 1:17 AM
Reply to  Willem

To my late mind, I had thought that the over-the-top spiking of virus “cases” through hugely hyped PCRs, was to provide a cover for the “lockdown” and to promote a “need” for vaccines, where as a matter of fact, the deeper reason is to provide a cover for the deaths and adversities pluming from the vaccines themselves. California has 63,000 deaths and change, to a country of comparable size (75%), namely Venezuela, and at last look, under 3,000? I had thought that our having here 20 times as many fatalities was a way of justifying lockdown when the real tally would never argue for closing down the whole state, or world.

But in fact, across the board, the USA “deaths” and other NATO countries have been running, like Ferguson’s projections, right about twenty times more than the reality. India has only reported 10% of the USA deaths.

So, what? Those Fergusonian numbers (grotesque exaggerations) were provided to disguise the reality that the deaths resulting from the vaccines are going to be far greater than the deaths from whatever fugitive virus we’re dealing with?

Perhaps others have pointed out that deep deception, but I haven’t seen it yet.

Jan J
Jan J
Jun 13, 2021 6:23 AM
Reply to  Willem

Footballers have been dying of «freak» heart-attacks on the pitch for years now – Google this and you’ll see an alarming number of cases. It’s interesting, but I doubt this is vaccine related. More likely it’s due to some performance enhancing drugs they are using (my pet theory) or simply undiagnosed heart disease?

magumba
magumba
Jun 13, 2021 2:33 PM
Reply to  Willem

I did read he was jabbed in Italy last month,no link,diy

Joss Wynne Evans
Joss Wynne Evans
Jun 12, 2021 7:11 PM

One small snag. It’s the people who propose this stuff. My father and many other fathers fought to make sure scum like this was seen off. Looks like we are going to have to do the same.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 12, 2021 6:23 PM

Christian Eriksen collapses on the field of play at the Euros.

  1. Has he had a Covid19 vaccine recently?
  2. Was this the manifestation of an ‘adverse vaccine reaction’?
  3. Will the world be told the truth of his medical situation?

If unlicensed emergency global vaccination leads to elite athletes collapsing on the field of play, then all bets are off as to what happens next.

The assumption must be that the authorities will do anything to hide the truth if this is vaccine-related, so there can be no pussy footing about in terms of getting the truth out there.

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
Jun 12, 2021 7:10 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

What? This happened on live tv?

David Matthews
David Matthews
Jun 12, 2021 8:24 PM

Seemingly live on BBC and here’s the Guardian’s (you never know when you’ll need it) minute by minute report.

The ball went out of play for a Denmark throw-in down near the corner flag. Rushing to receive the ball from whoever was taking it, Christian Eriksen collapsed face first into the turf as the ball hit his knee.Two nearby Finnish players, a Dane and referee Anthony Taylor immediately signalled for urgent medical assistance.

An **England** team talk has been cancelled. You can’t trust a footballer to stay on message?

Rev. Arthur J Cruddup
Rev. Arthur J Cruddup
Jun 12, 2021 7:21 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

According to recent reports, premiere league footie players weren’t allowed to jump the queue. My money is that he’s still had it, though.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 13, 2021 4:07 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Yesterday a woman suddenly fell backwards on the escalator and couldn’t get up. Never seen anything like that happen before. The security guy told us later she was taken to hospital with a fracture. Two weeks ago in the Northern Territory a woman became comatose on a coach which had to be diverted and the event delayed all of us by 2 hours. Never had anything like that happen before. I suspect the lethal injections are working as intended.

(Incidentally as I learned yesterday you can stop an escalator by pressing red buttons at the top or at the bottom of the escalator (foot level) or by hitting the hand rail hard.)

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 12, 2021 6:13 PM

The security services were clearly thinking about reintroducing nazi-style ostracism a few decades ago, as I well remember a discussion with a family member who is a member of the security services about ‘the step-wise movement toward how Jews got sent to the death camps’.

You don’t get recruited to the Security Services unless your morals are sufficiently flexible to adjust to those prescribed for you. It was clear that the ‘security service high fliers’ were already discussing the use of nazi-style propaganda nearly 20 years ago and had been discussing for a long time the societal conditions which would favour it actually coming to pass.

Brianboro
Brianboro
Jun 12, 2021 7:28 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

They look for fellow travellers !

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Jun 12, 2021 9:41 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

“You don’t get recruited to the Security Services unless your morals are sufficiently flexible to adjust to those prescribed for you.”

Very true. The same goes for regular law enforcement work and corporate jobs. Those with a strong moral compass and a conscience are quickly purged from the ranks if/when they are found out.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 11:41 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

John Perkins in his useful book “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” got deep into that process. He revealed how, personally, he was recruited by the NSA above all for the flaws in his character, let alone any skills. That was a key for me, to see that 17 years ago at 1st read.

Annie
Annie
Jun 12, 2021 4:09 PM

They want 500 million that is the number they can control or are useful to them.Everybody with sense can see what they are planning it’s been written about for a hundred years.

swami
swami
Jun 12, 2021 5:20 PM
Reply to  Annie

Indeed: Stanley Johnson in 2019…
https://twitter.com/i/status/1402253202481876995

Mike
Mike
Jun 12, 2021 6:21 PM
Reply to  swami

[email protected] you Stan, I’ll decide about my own life. Go to your bunker I’ll weld you in.

Annie
Annie
Jun 12, 2021 3:52 PM

The abomination that will enter the third Temple will be half human half robot.

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 12, 2021 8:12 PM
Reply to  Annie

There’s a new Netflix series called SWEET TOOTH in which the central character is a human-animal hybrid.

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Jun 12, 2021 9:47 PM
Reply to  Edwige

How COOL! Did you see the Netflix shows that try to humanize androids and robots and equate “discrimination” against AI with racism? So progressive!

Netflix produced shows almost always push ideological concepts that align with the woke/technocratic elite and their agenda. Viewer beware.

magumba
magumba
Jun 13, 2021 2:38 PM
Reply to  Edwige

i have seen quite a bit about sweet tooth,many theories abound about it being a primer for global acceptance of the wretched little humunculi however i foresee a whole host of benefits to a pig baby with antlers
For instance it could be used to prepare the ground for planting,just leave it in your garden and allow it to root and forage.It could be fed on scraps and swill at a most reasonable cost,Give it a hollow in the ground some straw and a couple of buckets of water and it would clean itself up,and finally as it matured and it developed a fine pair of antlers you would have an interesting place to store your hat collection on

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 13, 2021 11:44 PM
Reply to  Edwige

They are using H. G. Wells plot device from a century ago, Moreau on his Isle.

Howard
Howard
Jun 12, 2021 3:37 PM

While it is obvious that this powerful technology offers potential good to humanity as a tool to eliminate hereditary diseases in humans and in crops, CRISPR’s incredible power to fundamentally alter human DNA forever can do unimaginable harm if put into the wrong hands.

With this extremely unwise and unhistorical statement, Matthew Ehret hands the argument back to those whose disastrous policies he critiques. No good will come until humanity finally realizes that science and technology CANNOT AND WILL NEVER be wrested from the grip of the “wrong hands.” Oh, to be sure, a bone now and again will be tossed to humanity; but that will be the extent of it.

On a broader and even stronger anti-science note, the progression of madness from attempts to dissect the human mind to attempts to re-write the human genome itself shows as clearly as need be what has gone on and continues unabated.

The “ruling class’s” disastrous policies have created existential threats to humanity which that same “ruling class” has used to create yet more existential threats in its efforts to hide the fruits of its madness.

And humanity itself will be eternally caught in the crosshairs of this madness until such time as the very concept of hierarchy is excised from human society. We could do worse than beginning the process with Science and Technology – which serve no useful purpose, all considered.

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 4:38 PM
Reply to  Howard

When the time comes that there won’t be good for nothing hands to worry about, we also won’t need to worry about how absolutely everything needs to work.

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 12, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  Howard

It’s clear that they’re going to sell transhumanism through the alleged benefits to those with medical conditions (e.g. neurolink and Alzheimer’s).

There’s no point pretending this isn’t going to be extremely difficult to counter.

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Jun 12, 2021 10:01 PM
Reply to  Howard

Absolutely. Any hand that tinkers with human DNA in an attempt to bioengineer a “better” human being is the wrong hand. Of course they claim to be doing it to “help” and “save” humanity (they all say that) but only a naive fool takes such self-serving statements at face value.

Who finances these “helpful” projects? The military industrial complex and foundations belonging to obscenely wealthy billionaires – the creme de la creme of altruistic humanity helpers!

Annette
Annette
Jun 12, 2021 3:30 PM

The BBC wrote about a Nepal variant. So we’ve had an English variant, then a Brazilian one, an Indian one (which the French authorities are using to make vaccination compulsory for those who test positive and live in what they labeled as a “cluster of the Indian variant” in Strasbourg. Its a bad precedent to be followed closely. There are 195 countries, so at this rate, some of us will be long dead and gone before all of the countries have been gone through.

Is this what we want?

Im told yes, that the majority are now in France happy because restaurants and bars and other entertainment places are now open, and overcrowded, even though you have to accept to be track and traced. People think it great that the president in his extreme kindness allowed the Rolland Garros crowd to follow tennis after curfew hours because according to the newspapers they are vaccinated, tested, track and traced. But the police used heavy handed methods to stop a group of youngsters enjoying themselves at Les Invalides: when asked, the police seemingly said they are neither vaccinated, tested, nothing, they could spread covid…

So welcome to France, the land of collaboration,

theguvnor
theguvnor
Jun 12, 2021 6:36 PM
Reply to  Annette

The variants are now not to be named by country hence Delta etc; recently introduced.
As noted in video below the variant titles represent the personalities of men. If sigma is next you know its a real p take.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5F3dobjBhkHl/
PS there is a government warning that piss is in short supply because they’ve taken it all

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 12, 2021 10:13 PM
Reply to  theguvnor

Calling a so called beta coronavirus ”delta’ kappa whatever shows how deranged they have become

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 13, 2021 5:32 AM
Reply to  theguvnor

Great video.

Brianboro
Brianboro
Jun 12, 2021 7:30 PM
Reply to  Annette

Well, it’s to late for some who have succumbed to the Indian “ variant” they fell into a Korma and did away with their Nan 😆

October
October
Jun 12, 2021 8:01 PM
Reply to  Annette

I’m not sure we’re following the same people in France – a good number found that it was a bit of a Marie Antoinette moment to allow the fancy spectators at the French Open to break the curfew (for which they helpfully thanked the President) while the hoi polloi risked getting a €135 penalty for doing the same.

As for the cluster in Strasbourg, it has ABSOLUTELY NOT made anything mandatory for anybody (from the horse’s mouth here: https://www.dna.fr/sante/2021/06/12/variant-indien-a-strasbourg-(hear)-quatre-cas-positifs-des-mediateurs-dans-les-bars-et-restaurants-de-deux-quartiers).The incident is being used to “raise awareness” and dispense more hand sanitiser (OMG).

So maybe we should get our facts right.

Edith
Edith
Jun 13, 2021 8:23 AM
Reply to  Annette

But you must admit it cleared those yellow vest protestors off the street…I am sure your president thinks any sun and gross inconvenience to everyone was well worth achieving that!

Annette
Annette
Jun 12, 2021 2:01 PM

Possibly, OffG should only permit negative votes if an explanation is given. It would enable the authors to rectify or reflect on any shortcomings of what they wrote, at least enter into possibly useful discussions, and it would stop malicious negative votes.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Jun 12, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  Annette

I find the negative votes extremely distracting. I don’t see it on any other site – why is it needed here?

Geoff P
Geoff P
Jun 12, 2021 3:03 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

Just curious. How do you find the positive votes? 😉

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 12, 2021 3:21 PM
Reply to  Geoff P

I’ll give you a negative vote for free and perhaps you can let us know you find that.

Geoff P
Geoff P
Jun 12, 2021 3:30 PM

Now now. It was a reasonable question with a wink at the end… No need to be negative.

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 4:41 PM
Reply to  Geoff P

Irrelevant. The issue isn’t whether someone likes to be stroked. We all do. The issue, which intelligent people care about, is whether up and down voting, useful only to trolls, is a good idea. In my view it’s a bad feature.

Geoffp
Geoffp
Jun 12, 2021 5:34 PM
Reply to  Arby

Name calling could also be classed as a down vote. Yet it is used just as freely. What ever one’s stance, they are here and used.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Jun 13, 2021 10:44 PM
Reply to  Geoffp

Name calling shouldn’t be encouraged either.

Geoff P
Geoff P
Jun 14, 2021 4:20 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

You miss the point Frieda. 😔Please read Arbys post above mine for the name calling..

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Jun 12, 2021 11:17 PM
Reply to  Arby

Down voting is a real problem on sites like Reddit that filter down voted posts to the bottom of the page (or eliminate them from view altogether), making it easy for trolls and bots to disappear posts they don’t like or elevate a comment they approve of to the top, ensuring it gets a lot of views.

Even in the absence of trolls or bots influencing votes, an up/down voting system simply measures opinion and imbues the yays with a truth value that is completely illogical.

A 100:1 up/down vote ratio on a statement that claims the earth is flat does not make it true. A statement such as “I like clouds” is not true or false and there is nothing to like or dislike in the first place no matter how many votes it gets. But in online “conservation” popularity is a proxy for ‘truth’ or higher value.

Up/down and like/dislike voting is a typical technocratic “solution” to a problem, in this case how to make dumbed down “conversation” on digital computing devices more nuanced, where no technocratic solution exists.

The only way to have a nuanced conversation is by using the mouth and vocal chords to talk to your interlocutors.

People seem to have missed that the internet “revolution”, which replaced regular in-person contact with a subpar digital proxy thereof, is part of the same bait and switch scam that is peddling technocratic, transhumanist “solutions” to mortality, disease and “overpopulation.”

Remember how the internet was sold? “Hey we’re just here to help make communicating easier and shopping more convenient!” Fast forward to 2021 and Faceborg and Scroogle control how you communicate and think and record your every move and utterance which they helpfully pass on to the security services when asked.

Meanwhile humans are becoming extremely online bug people having their brains pumped full of propaganda 24/7, afraid of their own shadows, scared to interact with other people in the flesh and even willing to snitch out or “cancel” wrong thinkers for daring to practice intellectual autonomy.

People seem to be becoming less literate, less empathetic, more antisocial and have a much harder time thinking critically and separating fact from propaganda. Yes, it’s a generalization and there are exceptions but these are things I’ve observed in many people, including myself at times.

What does this have to do with up/down votes? Well, up and down voting furthers the illusion that communicating using machines that can only process binary commands can be an acceptable proxy for a genuine and nuanced conversation between human beings. It’s a further slide down the rabbit hole of technocratic oblivion.

We’ve already dumbed ourselves down to the level of our “smart” devices and let a bunch of psychopathic technocrats and social engineers dictate how we communicate and what we are allowed to communicate and use our words against us. We even spend our hard earned shekels buying the very tools they enslave us with.

We didn’t see it coming the first time and fell for the bait and switch trap they set for us. So why would anyone want to go further down the rabbit hole and legitimize the entire scam that’s been, and being, pulled on humanity?

The internet isn’t going anywhere and in itself is not an evil tool…if it’s used as a tool to complement real life rather than, as it is now, replacing it with a cheap proxy whose purpose is to manipulate people into giving up control over their lives and submitting to the will of a very disturbed class of mentally ill elitist control freaks.

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 11:39 PM
Reply to  Eric Blair

Thanks Eric. There’s much truth in your statement.

Annette
Annette
Jun 12, 2021 5:44 PM
Reply to  Geoff P

You see I write and research on topics that interest me. I used to be a scientist/mathematician. In all my projects it especially helps me to get serious criticism: it makes you realise you have to go more deeply and reflect far more to argue your case, or else it makes you shift your position, possibly abandon it.
Though people who agree with what you say confirm you are not talking rubbish, and its always satisfying, but its the serious, yet kindly (i.e. constructive) criticism that helps you progress in your journey through life.
This said people who agree can also be very helpful by providing you more reasons to continue holding your position.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Jun 12, 2021 11:02 PM
Reply to  Annette

You expect that demanding OffG introduce fascism in downvoting will induce us to comment on your work? Where’s the snowflake emoji?

Ort
Ort
Jun 13, 2021 8:53 PM
Reply to  Geoff P

I’m surprised that no one replied, “I just look down, and there they are!”

Geoffp
Geoffp
Jun 13, 2021 9:24 PM
Reply to  Ort

Stick with me Ort 😉. I have a cunning plan…🤣

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 12, 2021 3:19 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

It seems they are out to get you, as you would be taking away one of 77th Brigade’s little tools.

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 4:38 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

OG could answer your question, but, for some reason, they choose not to. Off Guardian isn’t pristine.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Jun 12, 2021 5:05 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

I like the negative vote option. It allows prople to express their views– either way– and it gives a sense of which way the wind is blowing. People are free to explain their down voting if they like, and usually some will do so.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jun 12, 2021 7:10 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

Correct Mary. Anyone can post an argument as well as a vote. The option’s there.

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Jun 13, 2021 12:04 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Indicating yay or nay is a very primitive and crude way for people to “express their views.”
An opinion without context, which is what an up or down vote is, adds nothing interesting or valuable to an online discussion.

During a normal face-to-face conversation or at a lecture/presentation would you shout “I agree!” or “I disagree!” after every statement a speaker makes? Unless you are a very odd person I don’t think so.

Voting up or down is just a quick way to satisfy the psychological urge to inject your opinion into a discussion and is absolutely useless if sharing information and ideas is the goal.

If you strongly agree or disagree with a comment, at least take the time to write it out and explain why you think what you think.

An online voting system’s primary function is to manipulate participants by offering a quick proxy for “truth” and shuffling down voted posts to the bottom of the pile (sometimes by default). Even if you know logically that an upvote is just a context-free opinion, it’s impossible to completely disentangle your mind from the manipulative aspect, especially if you’re using it as a sorting mechanism. Not to mention that trolls and bots vote too.

Anyway, Off-G isn’t as bad as, say, Reddit or Facebook because at least it doesn’t automatically sort by vote or disappear/hide heavily downvoted comments.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 13, 2021 11:35 PM
Reply to  Eric Blair

I can never make sense of it anyway. Its beyond me why this post has 4 downs, perhaps it’s humour.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Jun 13, 2021 10:48 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

Downvoting is not a view. It is an easy way to dismiss someone or something without effort or cause. I believe it has a very profound psychological effect on readers, so it’s a tool for bullies: effortlessly dismiss others without needing to explain.

The effect is that if someone puts together a well thought out comment, a few trolls can come along, downtick it a few times, and then everyone who reads that comment sees it with the tainted eye of the downvotes. We know for a fact that negative comments linger with us longer than positive ones, like a bit of bad stuff will spoil a barrel, so downvotes do the same. They aren’t a fair medium. They effect my reading of comments and it dissuades me from reading.

magumba
magumba
Jun 13, 2021 2:44 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

I use them (downvotes) as a barometer of just how many infiltraitors are present at any given time,very few follow up with a comment directly in relation to what they are downticking

Hello 77 brigade/13 signals/gchq/mi5/uncle tom cobley and all,do you lot not find it crowded in here at times oh and before i forget please ask your superior officers for new scripts,the ones you are using are wearing thin

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
Jun 12, 2021 2:49 PM
Reply to  Annette

Already dedicating a comment to negative votes is ascribing to them more meaning than they deserve. Speak.

Annette
Annette
Jun 12, 2021 3:20 PM

You’re right!

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
Jun 12, 2021 3:44 PM
Reply to  Annette

My view is the votes 1-5 on the author/article are fine. I think generally most of these votes are genuine views. The downvotes on the comments I generally avoid unless I see a post from Louis Proyect. Agree though on justifying being negative on part of an article. It helps the author learn. Although in my experience nit-picking is an occasional theme here, which I always vote down. Can’t stand it!

Howard
Howard
Jun 12, 2021 3:45 PM
Reply to  Annette

I agree with you primarily because, as with any grouping of humans in a given setting, there are biases which prompt strong opinions. Using myself as an example, I always risk a host of negative votes whenever a comment I post tends to agree with the tenets of global warming. This is entirely acceptable to me because I’m sort of “a stranger in a strange land” here. It was the COVID madness which drove me from “leftist” sites to sites like this.

One doesn’t come into another’s drawing room and begin criticizing the furnishings without engendering a certain animosity.

Annette
Annette
Jun 12, 2021 4:53 PM
Reply to  Howard

Same for me Howard. I did not even know of OffG before this madness.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jun 12, 2021 7:34 PM
Reply to  Howard

Right H. If you read here long enough, you soon get a rough gage of who has which blind-spots/hot-buttons: which never-to-be-questioned, though wholly-unjustified certainties are cherished beyond reason by which posters.

Clearly the – objectively obvious – reality of population-overshoot is a fanatical no-no to quite a few denizens here; as is the equally obvious fact that the Earth’s climate is shifting constantly, on the geological timescale, and known green-house gases in the atmosphere always have an effect on that process (whether they come from human activity or other disruptive sources).

There are other issues too which bring on bouts of mindless knee-jerkery amongst those who have idees-fixes about them.

The only thing to do is to learn to tag who’s irrational about which matters, and discount their jerkouts about those matters accordingly. I’m afraid that it’s unrealistic to expect standard-issue humans ever to be as totally, unwaveringly rational about absolutely everything as is Brent Spiner’s Star-Trek character ‘Lieutenant Data’. But then, he’s a robot. Far more logical creatures than hom-sap, who is a grossly irrational, emotion-governed creature, with a recently-evolved ability to do rationality, strictly as and when it suits us, tagged on as a late, optional-use extra… 🙂

PS: As a human myself, obviously I realise that I must have blind-spots and hot-buttons too. But it’s in the nature of these things that one never notices one’s own. It has to be others who point them out; and even then, often enough, we’ll deny them hotly.

“Lord! What fools these mortals be!” 🙂 🙂 🙂

Howard
Howard
Jun 12, 2021 10:42 PM

I think also there is a strong association of an almost rabid intransigence with commitment to an idea – especially noticeable on the (dare I say it) “Right.” As if anything less than full-throated, full-bodied expression of one’s beliefs is somehow weak, effete and even a bit sissified.

And yet, I suspect genuine commitment can express itself quietly as well as forcefully. It’s not how strong the expression is, but how deeply the commitment goes.

Saying “I might be wrong” is often seen as a weakness – and it can be. But it can just as easily be a strength.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 12, 2021 7:12 PM
Reply to  Annette

We have a list of improvements to try out. Trialing no voting is one of them. We can literally try this anytime. We’re just waiting for a long thread to appear bitching ecstatically about all the things we’re doing RIGHT, better than other alt. news sites. That’s literally the only thing we’re waiting for. Yeah it’s petty, but we need our egos stroked sometimes. And that’s just the bottom line of it. 😉 A2

Paul Rexton
Paul Rexton
Jun 12, 2021 8:00 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

It is a slippery slop; removing down votes was the first thing the guardian did when their stooges were getting down voted all the time. You should let it stay, but perhaps make it possible to see who had made the down vote, as they used to do in the Telegraph.

Geoff P
Geoff P
Jun 12, 2021 8:02 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Off guardian is always running good alternative articles with topics that interest me, I find it really annoying that I spend too much time here reading these fabulous articles and then taking my time to put a constructive comment below. I do this because I know that all the other frequent visitors to the brilliant off guardian will do the same and they will either up vote or down vote me so I can improve myself or, what I really yearn, be able sit in a place of utter contentment of all the delicious up votes. I aim for the place of utter contentment as I believe that is where the outstanding Admins of off G sit… Daily.. Here I am again….. Wonder if they sell t shirts. ?

October
October
Jun 12, 2021 8:56 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I think up and down voting is very useful when you agree and don’t have anything more to add, or when you don’t think much of the post but don’t have the time/inclination to engage with the person who wrote it.

I also use upvoting to say I have read a reply.

magumba
magumba
Jun 13, 2021 2:49 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Sam,what you do here is actually astounding given the current blitzkrieg of attacks by government funded entities it really is one of the few places where an uneducated oik like me can comment freely with little if any repercussions

If you need your ego stroking i will gladly do it for a set amount each day on a contract basis as long as i can retain my shitpost abillity

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 13, 2021 11:45 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Ah but as Billy Blake said- Damn braces, bless relaxes. Though I prefer Beau Brummel for sartorial advice.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 13, 2021 1:40 AM
Reply to  Annette

It has been noted, de temps en temps, that I have been suspected, in certain quarters, of talking some shit.

Most of the time it’s pretty banal except when I go to town on degenerates in the unIntelligent organs. So when the downvotes go haywire, it’s probably Scout Troop 77 trying to dismay diddums.

Perturbation Operations. For verily they are a bunch of woggle fondlers and perturbators.

It doesn’t work. It’s a compliment.

In general votes are a very rough indication of relevance. They are vaguely useful but safely ignored “and nothing to get hung about”.

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 12, 2021 1:40 PM

The Tavistock Insitute was named by John Coleman in ‘The Committee of 300′ as the creators of The Beatles’ psy-op. Tavistock’s Eric Trist’s son just happened to manage The Grateful Dead.

Rock’n’Roll’s rebels haven’t had a good couple of weeks:
1) Noel Gallagher, after some anti-mask comments, got the vaccine.
2) Van Morrison, after appearing like he might be genuine, allows himself to be associated with Iain Paisley.
3) Dave Grohl, Bruce Springsteen and The Strokes announce a vaxxed-only concert.

Some of rock’s biggest professional big-mouths and radical posturers remain conspicuous in their silence on the Covid front. That’s those who aren’t actively collaborating with the official narrative.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 12, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

So is Iain Paisley pro-vax? I see he’s a gay basher. But what’s his view on COVID?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 12, 2021 3:24 PM
Reply to  Edwige

The Ian Paisley reference is a bummer and it spoiled an otherwise decent post.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 12, 2021 3:44 PM

Yes, Van is one of the few to be consistently against the COVID bullshit. I presume that IP junior follows in the footsteps of IP senior. But I really couldn’t care less if people are identified as bigots, Left, Right, fascists, commies, Christians, atheists etc. Now there is only where you stand on COVID.

Howard
Howard
Jun 12, 2021 3:50 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Though no expert on Rock ‘n Roll, I tend to think the problem lies with the handlers more than with the creators. I doubt if “Stars” of any pop music genre are the brightest lights in the sky. It isn’t just that they want to hit it big – they have to hit it big or they’re history. And that’s where the handlers come in.

swami
swami
Jun 12, 2021 6:50 PM
Reply to  Edwige

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swami
swami
Jun 12, 2021 6:51 PM
Reply to  swami

Noel performing on Sky Arts Look at his backing singers.

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Martha
Martha
Jun 12, 2021 8:20 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Apparently they don’t read Mercola, the Defender or Off-G or watch The HighWire. Otherwise they’d know that no good can come of these jabs and their friends, family, fans won’t be spared the effects. Sad.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jun 14, 2021 6:05 AM
Reply to  Edwige

That’s interesting about the psyop and rock connections. When you cut to the bone, you uncover so many threads like this in pop. Covering fabrics. The whole load of modern culture seems like so much of sports, diversionary crap.

Why can’t they let artists just be?

Well, that would be a way out of their Plato’s Cave!

Louis N. Proyect
Louis N. Proyect
Jun 12, 2021 1:38 PM

What a bunch of fucking idiots you are. The author of this rancid article publishes the Canadian Patriot Review that describes itself:

The views expressed in the Canadian Patriot Review are inspired by the philosophy and strategic outlook of Lyndon LaRouche and the International Schiller Institute, the specific policy propositions for Canada contained in this report are those of the authors of the Canadian Patriot Review alone.

Is it possible that you have no clue who Lyndon Larouche was? My fear is that you do and went ahead and posted this garbage anyhow. I knew that this conspiracy-mongering would eventually lead you to promote fascists some day. That day is now.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jun 12, 2021 2:01 PM

How wonderful that a person who unquestioningly promotes forced vaccinations, mass house arrest, re-education facilities for the unvaccinated, segregation and unlimited state power to enforce medical intervention can roll up here and accuse us of ‘fascism’. 🤦‍♀️

dude
dude
Jun 12, 2021 3:34 PM

haha good one!

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 12, 2021 5:18 PM

Fuckin’ a.

Sometimes hypocrisy is so repellent, out-of-touch, whiney, preachy, sheltered and pompous it literally makes you gag in your mouth.

jimbo
jimbo
Jun 13, 2021 7:51 AM

Sometimes hypocrisy is so repellent, out-of-touch, whiney, preachy, sheltered and pompous it literally makes you gag in your mouth.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jun 13, 2021 10:11 AM
Reply to  jimbo

Why did you just copy and post Sam’s comment intact?

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jun 13, 2021 5:03 PM

Looks like it’s time, in the interests of accuracy, that the decrepit old windbag Louis changed the name of his blog from The Unrepentant Marxist to The Unrepentant Fascist.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 12, 2021 2:14 PM

Hi Louis, still around I see! Is that nasty Ba’athist Amen crowd getting ya down? Or has COVID wiped them all out? Isn’t it disgusting that the entire Western media totally ignore the virus and you never even see a mask on TV. Just as well you Marxists are there to heroically get the word out and force those pharma companies to selflessly sacrifice the entire wealth of the planet into making rubber gloves and face nappies. Not to mention syringes full of sea water.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 12, 2021 3:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Louis is a jackbooted corporate fascist fabian eugenicst brown shirted charlatan fraudster. He is an agent (and provocateur) of the war racketeer prison state. The scamdemic was the signal for him (and those of his ilk) to come out full Nazi. His so called “Marxism” shtick rings hollow. He is no Socialist. Whether he chooses to admit or not, Lyndon LaRouche, David W Green and he have much in common.”
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/ny37zk/g7_summit_no_masks_no_social_distancing_none_of/

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 12, 2021 3:03 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

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NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 14, 2021 12:14 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Didn’t old Vlad stop the Hun from invading Europe? My mistakomatic made Glad stop June, I almost wish I’d not noticed it! Mysterious ways, though.

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 4:44 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

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S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 12, 2021 9:21 PM
Reply to  Arby

“What a nifty idea for fundraising. Thanks.”
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“On another note, another one bites the Vax.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/ny94ap/another_one_bites_the_vax/

“BAD KARMA STRIKES AGAIN!”

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 12, 2021 3:29 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If only it was it was just sea water. Anyway I really do hope Louis has had his Covid shots.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 12, 2021 3:48 PM

As a fully paid up intelligence mole, I reckon Louis knows perfectly well what’s in the vax. And he’ll make damn sure he keeps socially distanced from it!

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 12, 2021 7:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I rather think the same way, but I wouldn’t begrudge Louis an early death, if indeed he practised what he preached.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 12, 2021 11:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Oh my, I’m slightly surprised Louis even had the gall to crawl back here. Maybe he gets off in some perverse way when we all reply to him? He epitomises in a nutshell the fake phoney pretend Left who are pushing the ‘new normal’ fascism and shilling for the 0.01% while virtue signalling their “radical politics”.
Stomach churning.
Proyect and the WSWS should get together in how to strategise for their supposed coming revolution🤣
Like peas in a pod. As I’ve said before – fuck the lot of them. They’ve revealed who they really are.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 13, 2021 8:22 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

The big laugh is that LP and the WSW had a big punch up a little while ago. At the time I was glad to see the “true Left” WSW get the boot into Louis. I now realise I was watching a Punch and Judy show.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2021 8:40 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You’re right George… its all a Punch & Judy Show, or just plain old smoke and mirrors. I actually read David North’s response to Proyect at the time, and North called him a liar and agent provocateur. But, it was just another show. Just read John Steppling’s latest post… parts of it I strongly liked, especially about the seeming loss of the human spirit in recent decades, and he mentioned Debords Society of The Spectacle. However some paragraphs, my brain felt a bit like scrambled eggs and I was thinking what?
By the way, any reading or video suggestions from you are always welcome👍

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 13, 2021 1:34 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Steppling is good – and it’s always heartening to see an actual Marxist not taken in by the covid con. But as you note, he suffers from “Adornitist” i.e. he has fallen for that Frankfurt School gobbledygook. The moment he starts to drone about mimesis and reification I just skip. (I am tempted to consider him another casualty to the corruption of Marxism over the decades, influenced by the branch that just sat on its arse complaining about how the proletariat never delivered them the revolution.)

What to read? To be honest my go-toes are OffG, UK Column, the twitters of Steppling and Phil Greaves. And few other places. Would you believe I’m actually reading David Icke at the moment? His And the Truth Shall Set You Free has a detailed account of the backdrop to the JFK assassination with lots of stuff I didn’t know. Sure, Dave can be a bit … colourful but he communicates with a refreshing lack of pretention and has an attractive philosophy: instead of keeping items hidden implying you’re “not ready” for them, he just dumps the lot on you and encourages you to make up your own mind.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 13, 2021 2:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Thanks G. For me my main go too sites are Offguardian, Global Research, The Corbett Report, The Crowhouse (Max Igan) Wrench In The Gears blog and random videos on Bitchute like Richie From Boston. Helen of Destroy blog is good but she’s not very prolific in her output. I’ve looked at a couple of David Icke interviews and listened to a couple of speeches before of his. On the scamdemic, yep, I’m all ears. On the more, um, ‘out there’ things, I hit the off button.

Arby
Arby
Jun 13, 2021 2:52 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Helen’s website positively gives me a headache. Also, I’m put off by her covid 19 propaganda, which I can’t get away from even here but which I can reduce my exposure to but just limiting, numerically, how many anti-covid articles and sites I give attention to. Other than that, she’s sensible enough. There’s a very interesting discussion that she has with Spiro Skouras in which she reports on her experience with joining Johns Hopkins pathetic contact tracing company. She wanted to find it what it was all about, something I could never do, but anyway. It’s a must see.

As for Alison McDowell, I don’t know what she thinks of us, but it’s possible she doesn’t like us. (I do think she has something to contribute to our discussions about the Great Reset.) I saw her exchange a while back with someone here. It was unpleasant, and while that’s not everyone here, In our back and forth recently, in which she attacked me (on the same day OG – an admin – and Colin Todhunter attacked me), she referred to me and my colleagues. My colleagues? I don’t have a clue who she was referring to and the only thing I could think of was OG where most of my conversations online happen.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 14, 2021 2:14 AM
Reply to  Arby

Hi Arby… You know and I know and quite a few others here know that the virus has never been isolated and purified, therefore the scamdemic is based on a massive lie and fraud.
We also know about the fraud of the PCR tests, and why they have the amplification cycles at 40 or 45.
However, I really get that a lot of our allies or potential allies don’t share the same opinion on this; they still, to an extent, believe the propaganda.
And some may even use the word pandemic, which really irks me, like the latest Anonymous post at Wrench In The Gears.
I think it was Tony who said to you the other day that “our enemies enemies have to be our friends” because we are in the fight of our lives. I strongly agree with that BECAUSE the situation is now so dire. They have already begun rolling out the vaccine passports or will be shortly. Manitoba was the latest to announce this. I can clearly see the technofascist horror unfolding. It’s right there on the horizon.
I actually thought the latest post at Wrench In The Gears was excellent (minus the word pandemic) and the overall information was very valuable. My adage is take what you want and leave the rest behind.
The Saker, on the other hand, fell for the covid narrative straight away, and I put him in the same boat as Moon of Alabama on this point. But more so, it was his blatant homophobia that prompted me to leave. He even stated “there will be no gay pride parade on my site” and equates homosexuality to a form of pathology as well as other comments.
Hope your week goes well.

Arby
Arby
Jun 14, 2021 12:50 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thanks Gezzah. I pretty much follow that rule (take what works and leave what doesn’t) but perhaps I am a little more determined than some to chastise those who I feel should know better. That’s one issue. The other one is, When I’m attacked the way Sophie, Colin and Alison attacked me, I don’t forgive. I believe in forgiveness, but not the way some do. I don’t pat overly nasty people on the back – forgive – for attacking me, especially when they are those who I’ve supported and thought were my friends or at least allies. Alison, I’ve had no experience with, but as a frequenter of OG, I’ve read Colin’s articles many times and always found them to be stellar and, I’m sure, have commented in such a way that my view in that regard was clear.

To be called a stalker for being curious about what he looked like (and not out of the blue but because I was wondering whether I might use his image on a poster, the way I did with Jon Rappoport), crosses the line. If I annoy OG staff – with mentioning the lie they embrace about the existence of Sars CoV 2 – and they want to express their annoyance with me, fine. But it takes a certain kind of person to express annoyance with the kind of smear I was hit with. It’s like a wife telling her husband that he could stand to lose a few pounds and so he goes out in the middle of the night and knifes her car tire. That’s something that someone who has no principles, or real grasp of boundaries, would do.

My weekend? It just ended. 😉 But thanks. Hang in there. And yes, The Saker is a piece of work. He doesn’t get, or care about, human rights at all.
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Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 14, 2021 1:24 PM
Reply to  Arby

I was just watching the end of this when you replied. Don’t know if you’ve looked at The Crowhouse before, but Max Igan is a fairly well known anti establishment activist here in Australia, and he just straight out says there is no virus, and he’s called out the PCR tests and police brutality and fraudulent death certificates and everything about the scamdemic. He doesn’t just focus on what’s happening in Australia, but around the world as well.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hvO0TesAoTzH/
As a gay man, I tried to keep an open mind with The Saker and take an “each to their own approach” and realised that his religious faith was colouring his views on gay people, but the longer I stayed, the more angry I got. I even tried to reason with him personally a couple of times!
But the homophobic comments continued, and a number of commenters there were even worse, and of course their comments weren’t moderated. But the last straw for me was his full acceptance of the scamdemic narrative. He even claimed he knew people with covid.
That was when I gave him the flick.

Arby
Arby
Jun 14, 2021 2:27 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Yes, I subbed him on Bitchute. I agree that he’s anti-establishment, but there was something he said (probably ‘the virus’) that just made me less interested in his otherwise interesting rants. Maybe he’s come around. I’ll check out that link.

Arby
Arby
Jun 14, 2021 7:49 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Max is good but I don’t agree with about everything. He mentioned the doctors at Nuremberg. They were a few (23 if I recall), whereas, as others have noted, that whole medical establishment was corrupt. That was then! And Germany’s medical establishment was part of the global Rockefeller medical establishment.

Max also insists that there will be a Nuremberg II, except that, as C.J. Hopkins points out, the criminals are the majority. Who on earth can bring all of the hoaxsters and those who have went along with them to justice? You couldn’t do it. Armageddon is the justice that the world needs and will get. That’s my view.

Max tosses out some strange ideas. (And I usually, not always, quit videos when the presenter or presenters curse. I don’t like it. But I still go to Max now and then. I also hate it when people use expressions like “My God.” I respect and worship God so it’s hard for me to listen to those who don’t, although I do.) Demons in the form of kings/politicians? Demons exist but they don’t need to materialize, which they can’t do, in order to wreak havoc. We don’t know exactly how they influence those people who open themselves to such influence, but it can be and is being done.

I’d like to hear him say more about the non existent virus. I think that that would help our side. When he states that there’s no virus, we don’t whether he means that there could be but not in this instance or whether he means that the whole field of virology (with it’s ‘isolation’ process) is a scam.

Arby
Arby
Jun 13, 2021 2:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

His website is stuffy. I was drawn to it by this or that (forget exactly but by following links) and thought I’d join the community and maybe get into some interesting conversations there. That didn’t happen. I joined okay and someone said welcome, but the system isn’t simple. I’m also put off by someone having all sorts of nonsense rules about the conversation after talking up free speech. I think one was about talking about religion. Well, David, What if we wanted to talk about the invasion of the lizards or something? Come to think of it, that maybe is what he’s worried about.

But, yes, David is sometimes level-headed and very right about the big issues.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 13, 2021 3:23 PM
Reply to  Arby

By “his” website I thought at first you meant Steppling – where you only get a limited time to put in a comment – so you better make sure you’re copy/pasting. I was excited to see him mention GG Preparata and commented – only to be ignored by people who’d rather discuss the inherently fascistic dithyrambs of ramalamadingdong.

I never tried posting on Icke. He does have certain annoying features e.g. the UFO/reptile/ancient civilisation stuff. But when he’s on form, he really hits it!

Arby
Arby
Jun 13, 2021 3:32 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Acknowledged.

Ort
Ort
Jun 12, 2021 10:23 PM

Leaving aside the “Germ Theory” dispute for the moment, I hope that the people he hangs out with (if any) have all had their rabies shots.

Annette
Annette
Jun 12, 2021 5:25 PM

The fact is you see, one does not choose to hold on to ideas because of the others who also may hold the same about a particular topic. Some of us do so because of the eternal values of humanity.
Regarding eugenics, some of us you see dont consider man to be an automata reducible to some genes, and that man can tamper with life (if he does given he knows nothing of the complexity of life, of human life, its to his peril), and certainly man cannot decide who is worth living and who is not. Also read my post below. Who are the ones who should have the right to live? I happen to agree with Kropotkin’s reply to Darwin, that it is the “thousands of weak-bodied and infirm poets, scientists, inventors, and reformers, together with other thousands of so-called ‘fools’ and ‘weak-minded enthusiasts’” that are “the most precious weapons used by humanity in its struggle for existence by
intellectual and moral arms”. I also agree with Wallace, that a propensity to “protect[] the weak and sick” might actually be an essential part of natural selection. So
if you get rid of the these fools and enthusiasts, in a world led byprofit and power mad junkies and any unthinking servant there of, how long would one give the human race?
How rapidly will it be that no one is left capable of repairing the machines which these junkies think life is reducible to?

So basically if you wish to discuss, tell us why you wish to defend eugenics. For Im sure your defense of eugenics is not because Hitler also did.

Brianboro
Brianboro
Jun 12, 2021 7:40 PM

LaRouche did a brillant expose in the 90s about how the major players in drug trade were established in the last 2 centuries, what they gained from it and how their descendants continue to push this vile trade which founded banks and finance houses such as HSBC, Jardine Mathesson and founded the fortunes of families such as the Sassons.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 13, 2021 5:43 AM
Reply to  Brianboro

John Kerry, Skull & Bones, Dubya, the Boston Brahmins, Bell Telephone.
Incidentally Alexander Graham Bell did not invent the telephone.

Brianboro
Brianboro
Jun 13, 2021 8:43 AM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Yes, I knew that but was he involved in the drug trade ?

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 13, 2021 9:37 AM
Reply to  Brianboro

I think he was financed by the opium traders.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 14, 2021 12:24 AM
Reply to  Brianboro

Yes I read that, it was great. No one abandons a nice little earner, do they? It opened my eyes.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jun 12, 2021 7:44 PM

Don’t ever change, Louis! And please do keep coming here to give us all the odd derisive laff now and then, you old masochist, you! Can’t stop picking at it, can you! Better luck in your next incarnation, chuck! LOL!

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 14, 2021 12:28 AM

That sounds depressingly similar to the comments I got on my local forum when I was attacking the covid scam. The chorus of parrots only made me more trenchant in convictions.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 12, 2021 8:13 PM

Like Mr Ehret you fail to understand that all current political camps seek the same goals power over others , and the wealth and fame that goes with it ? Fascists , Socialists ,or Communists , are materialistic in their beliefs and operationally the same once they acquire power.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 12, 2021 11:21 PM

Oh dear lord… its Louis the full blown establishment shill. You decided to pay us a visit again sweetie?
If anyone’s a fascist around here it’s you and all the rest of the fake pseudo left hipster brigade cheering on this tyranny. You and vast swathes of this alleged ‘Left’ have shown yourselves up for the traitorous slime that you really are.
You’re a fraud and a hypocrite.

hotrod31
hotrod31
Jun 13, 2021 3:01 AM

Oh bite ya derriere … ya foul-mouthed cretin.

dr death
dr death
Jun 13, 2021 12:29 PM

mr ‘project’, a useless pseudo political-celeb, bleating the usual tired state approved epithets and disombobulated and insincere reasoning , hopes to steer off g back onto the reservation with his hypocritical rants…

because of course what mr ‘project’, his handlers and fellow travelers fear the most is that their prole meal-tickets will leave behind the redundant absurdities of useless ‘political’ ideology..

and band together under more useful goals in the pursuit of ‘real’ societal reform..

and of course were that to happen mr ‘project’ and his ilk will be in prison awaiting trial…

Arcabuz
Arcabuz
Jun 12, 2021 12:54 PM

Dystopia? At least mentally, which is not little. I am surrounded by vaccinated people, I am not, but everyone thinks so. Why am I doing this? Well, as a human being I have to relate. At the moment the only thing I know is that I am not vaccinated. Now, the discourse changes completely. I explain. Until a month ago, nobody around me was vaccinated and my speech was “don’t get vaccinated.” But now they are, what do I tell them? I have no choice but to play along. So the days go by and I feel like an island in the ocean. An island that can withstand waves and hurricanes, but an island after all. An island that accepts castaways like me. It’s certainly the weirdest feeling I’ve ever had in my life. But the decision is made. Dystopia?

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz

Tell them facts and truth. Yes, be tactful and don’t engage when it’s not wanted. But don’t lie.

Arcabuz
Arcabuz
Jun 12, 2021 5:21 PM
Reply to  Arby

There always has to be a smartass and in this case it’s you Arby. When your employment contract is renewed every year, when your parents tell you not to come see them, when your wife would not understand, when your friends will not call you, when they forbid you to see your nephews, children, etc. , etc., you tell me to tell the truth … At the moment it is what is around here. I consider myself a cryptovaccinated. No choice. Thanks for understanding others, a little empathy friend. The same thing happens to you that you are vaccinated and you come here to give cryptosnob lessons.

Arby
Arby
Jun 12, 2021 11:42 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz

As you wish. Buzz off.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 14, 2021 12:43 AM
Reply to  Arcabuz

When you go your own way you have to be discrete. The ganging up effect is very evident even on this forum, in real life it has big consequences. I know where you’re at, I’m in a similar position. There’s a lot of piss and wind everywhere!

Peytoia
Peytoia
Jun 12, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz

Yes, Arcabuz, the injection is the point of no return in one’s relations with others. Suddenly it becomes impossible to be honest, because how on earth do you force onto people the knowledge or realisation that they have almost certainly made the worst decision of their life, and that there is no going back?

I work for the NHS in the UK. I too am surrounded by vaccinated people. Before the injections started I was fairly vocal about them (though I didn’t say anywhere near as much about their potential downsides as I could have). Once the injections began, there seemed little point. I rarely get the chance to speak about it now in any case. I am usually cut off point blank. On the very rare occasions I do speak, I don’t discuss the injections. How can you? Unless, perhaps, someone has children or grandchildren? I feel very sorry for my colleagues and very angry with them at the same time.

At work I could not lie about my injection status even if I wanted to. I have been asked by managers three times if I wanted to be injected, each time in front of other people. I have also been asked whether it is that I have really been injected, only elsewhere; and that conversation was also in front of a third person. (Whatever happened to the concept of confidentiality?) If I lied and said I had been, my employer would check.

More generally, the NHS has contacted me about it by letter and by phone (and suddenly, a few weeks ago, by mobile, although I removed my mobile number from my GP record in early December last).

My teenage daughter has been sent multiple texts “inviting” her to be jabbed, although in the UK I believe the injection is technically open to those 25 and over. I gather this tends to happen when parents have declined. It feels as though we are descending to a new level of darkness.

Joe
Joe
Jun 12, 2021 12:28 PM

Hello all,

I’ve just completed a new article that I’d like to share here. It’s called, “What does freedom look like?”

Aside from an exploration of the titular question, I reference some very useful works and information I’ve come across over the years, including a series of institutions based on the east coast of the United States that provide a much more human example of what youth can look like, the publications of former schoolteacher John Taylor Gatto on the insanity of the mass-produced “education” system, and Sylvia Federici’s “Caliban and the Witch”, a fantastic and exhaustively sourced book that sheds a great deal of light on some of the genuine history of the medical period, relating ultimately to the subjugation of the European population to the state and capitalism.

Cheers!

MaryLS
MaryLS
Jun 12, 2021 5:11 PM
Reply to  Joe

Excellent references. Much food for thought.