Matt Hancock hints NHS has a decreased duty of care for anti-vaxxers
Kit Knightly
Yesterday in Parliament, during the discussion on the bill to push back the June 21st “re-opening”, Conservative MP Liam Fox stood up and asked Health Secretary Matt Hancock:
…of those who are being hospitalised, how many are in the younger age group who were not yet eligible for the vaccine, and how many were above that age? In other words, who were able to get the vaccine and chose not to?
Hancock’s reply is very interesting.
The first part is just a ramble on official statistics which are likely completely meaningless (although, his totally ignored admission that one fifth of current “Covid” hospitalisations were fully vaccinated before they entered hospital is potentially intriguing).
The second part is far more revealing – that’s where you spot the sharp end of a potentially very nasty agenda:
I think that there is a material difference between the state’s responsibility to offer the vaccine to all adults…and the duty that we have, when somebody has not been offered the vaccine, is greater than the duty we have when we have offered a vaccine but somebody has chosen not to take it up. And there is a material difference between those two situations.
After an interjection from Andrea Leadsom, Hancock added:
…there is a challenge, should there be an overwhelming demand on the NHS that would impact on others. And of course with a communicable disease, there is an impact on others in terms of spreading the disease so we do have to have an eye to that.
You can watch the full exchange here:
Picking through the intentionally murky language of the bureaucrat, it’s not hard to see exactly what is being suggested here.
They’re talking about the idea the NHS could prioritise care for people who’ve been “vaccinated” over those who refuse the “vaccine”.
The unvaxxed, in this situation, would be blamed for “putting the NHS under strain” or putting “healthcare heroes at risk”. They would be called irresponsible, and receive either delayed care, limited care, no care at all, or be expected to pay some kind of extra fee.
The idea of limiting healthcare for certain people based on lifestyle is not at all new. In the past, smoking, obesity and alcoholism have all been the subject of either research or even local schemes on elective surgery. But, should an unvaxxed ban or limit ever be put in place, it would be the first hard-and-fast, nationwide example. And would set a pretty terrifying precedent that could in the future apply to all kinds of diet, lifestyle or even political choices.
Remember the (totally false) argument that beef is bad for the planet? Or that the NHS should stop serving meat in their hospitals? It’s not hard to see that evolve into vegans getting preferential healthcare, or meat-eaters having to pay premiums, is it?
Of course, all that is a long ways down the road (hopefully). For now, it’s only a vague allusion in one parliament session. But, even if the discussion never blooms into real legislation, it’s certainly yet another example of the state attempting to bully and coerce vaccination.
And the fact nobody in the house of commons seemed even a little shaken up by the idea of a segregated NHS should be a cause for concern moving forward.
Many thanks to Right Said Fred who brought this to our attention on Twitter, and to Richie Allen for the good catch.
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If By their level of care you will be poisoned, hacked and robbed , thanks I will gladly pass.
Oh, that’s right, beef, swine, poultry, good for the planet? Again, Off-Guardian off in La-La-Land: AFOs congregate animals, feed, manure and urine, dead animals, and production operations on a small land area. Feed is brought to the animals rather than the animals grazing or otherwise seeking feed in pastures, fields, or on rangeland. There are approximately 450,000 AFOs in the United States.
A CAFO is term for a large concentrated AFO. A CAFO is an AFO with more than 1000 animal units (an animal unit is defined as an animal equivalent of 1000 pounds live weight and equates to 1000 head of beef cattle, 700 dairy cows, 2500 swine weighing more than 55 lbs, 125 thousand broiler chickens, or 82 thousand laying hens or pullets) confined on site for more than 45 days during the year. Any size AFO that discharges manure or wastewater into a natural or man-made ditch, stream or other waterway is defined as a CAFO, regardless of size.
“CAFOs are regulated by EPA under the Clean Water Act in both the 2003 and 2008 versions of the “CAFO” rule.
USDA’s goal is for AFO/CAFO owners and operators to take voluntary actions to minimize potential air and water pollutants from storage facilities, confinement areas, and land application areas.”
Well well. A billion in a century, dead, dying, sucking air, on the ropes, thanks to that old time fun product, tobacco. Serious about deaths, premature ones, and high medical bills, then, well, gulp? Tobacco? End it today? Lock them all up? Oh, the hedge funds, mutual funds and heads of companies hawking tobacco? More than 8 million people a year will die from diseases related to tobacco use by 2030. Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.
So many run under name magic.
What do you know about the chemicals used in growing and in processing tobacco?
What do you know about guilting and shaming.
But set up a scapegoat as a demonisation target and have your satisfaction.
“41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure”.
Words fail me. You could get a job with SAGE.
How high do you ride your high moral science with regard to those poisons that are running as protected benefactors?
Some narratives are protected and mainstreamed while others are denied and stamped on. Does truth have anything to do this?
I see a kind of ju-jitsu in that when there is pushback against the corporate class, it is sometimes given token victory as a means to lay a more insidious control system that we effect upon ourselves. And more effective and profitable ways to feed from self destructive habits or conditioning.
What’s in your food. If it kills you slowly or sets up a lack of nutrition and toxic burden that results in disease susceptibility, is it food that kils?
Science is different from moral narrative leveraging.
Or would be if practiced.
Toxic exposures are always part of a picture.
The capacity to neutralise, clear out and regenerate is another part.
If you want a toxin free life. Die now!
He’s clearly an American, so you’ll have to forgive his preachy, holier-than-thou hypocrisy and moralizing. He can’t help it.
That is why you should never want Americans trying to solve your problems, no matter which side of the political spectrum they’re from. They have no sense of nuance or complexity.
Being American myself (though thankfully living abroad), I know whereof I speak.
The mask of virtue may be specially represented in US Americans, but its a cultural expression of a psychic-emotional defence that knows no boundaries and is not new.
The belief that we are right and as such have the right to regard others wrong is the projection and redistribution of guilt.
In the light of the current exposure (to most readers here) of medical fraud running with Media complicity and regulatory and political protection, is it a stretch to suggest that similar has been operating in ways that have NOT been exposed?
When huge funding follows public fears or moral crusades, the research seeks and finds in the parameters set.
Ie: within a pathogenic virological frame, a broken gene frame, a poisonous CO2 frame, Cholesterol, Sunshine Hugging etc etc
Another spurious conspiracy dreamed up by OG to keep us amused.
What do you think Hancock’s words mean?
You do realise all the other ‘spurious conspiracies’ discussed her in the last 12 months have turned out to be fact?
Doctors are bound by their Hippocratic oath. In the highly unlikely event that government prioritised vaccinated people over non-vaccinated, do you really think medics would implement it? They might resent the non-vaccinated idiots for using up their time and resources, but would continue to prioritise patients in terms of medical need. Like I said, another OG fantasy.
Doctors are people and as vulnerable to propaganda, prejudice and fear as anyone else. There were family doctors approving DNRs for autistic people just last year. If they were advised that healthcare needed to be rationed in favour of the ‘socially responsible’, of course the majority would agree and think it morally correct.
Indeed doctors are often more vulnerable to propaganda than others, simply because their livelihood may depend on it. Just look at the way most of them have handled the “pandemic.”
(I of course exclude the thousands of brave doctors around the world who have spoken out against the dangerous conformism, but in my limited circle of day-to-day experience, the doctors are among the worst Covid gaslighters of all, even if–or perhaps especially when–they have never even seen a Covid patient.)
Well I’m not an anti-vaxxer Kit, but I’m not taking any of these Covid vaccines.
I’ll have Ivermectin thanks. In the unlikely event that I might need it.
(Maybe it cures the flu as well?)
Its an antiparasitic.
This points to something parasitic.
I thought having flu cures the flu?
The problem is the Jabbed will believe his rhetoric and not look at the implications of it.
Yes, The fourth Reich Industrial Euthanizing Revolution in full “progress”.
Pro vaxxers are people that make money from vaccines and those that are ignorant as to what vaccines actually do.
As an anti vaxxer I would say that staying as far away from the NHS (Numerous Harold Shipmans) is a good strategy for a longer healthier life.
Y’all know they want to live forever, right? They think they need to unlock the secrets of aging and disease, and they will live for centuries. To get there, they need to do a few experiments. It would be nice if they could skip the animal trials. So now they have crossed the boundary, and they are doing their experiments directly on humans- and so many of the humans are begging to participate!
Win Win Win!
wry, sad /s
Well, as a vegan Covid-19 vaccine refuser I think that makes it a draw then. Hat Mancock is an idiot and anything he says should be taken with a pinch of sobriety. The fear-porn propaganda surrounding this vaccine will pass just as the fear of flying kites next to pylons or drunkenly going for a swim did.
‘The fear-porn propaganda surrounding this vaccine will pass’
I don’t think it will, this is their ‘new normal’ and you will berequired to get your regular booster shot in order to keep your vaccine pass up to date if you want any ability to operate in society.
That is their plan.
Read it again Tim 😉
I don’t get the feeling things are going to plan for Hancock and the Tories. They can’t exclude the non-vaxxed for anything much as that would expose their likely fraudulent vax figures.
I’m sure there are many, many more of us than they would like to admit.
The Score was 0-0. I didn’t send any money to any of you, though I used to.
It is better to read, before you press delete.
I always read all your comments. We’re actually nice people here. Not quite as cool as MOA, but we try! Hehe A2
Off topic,but I have to rant as I am a smidgen short of a killing spree
Now as many won’t know,as I sporadically post,my wife is terminally ill(no sympathy, we know what is ahead)
But my eldest lost her last week of primary school due to her unwell? teacher testing positive (wanted extra week off)
Cue crying daughter,who has lost so much in her last year.
Be warned
I am an unleashed animal
You fuck over my kids
Bad idea
Contact people
Stop pontificating
They are killing us
Fight
Please
Cool.
I’ll stop paying taxes and national insurance
And put it into private health insurance for my family
Problem solved
BTW I would punch that slimy cunt into oblivion.
Seriously I’m a peaceful,though built,guy
But this lie being perpetually being spun raises my anger.
Cummings,Johnson whitty hancock et Al could do with an old school beating.
Pussies the lot of them
I wonder if that is how they became such pliant tools – as a result of old school ‘training’.
Why do you use a procreational term for your hate?
Whatever else is going on – all the shit is coming up to the surface – in everyone.
I agree with disengaging from abusive relationships.
Living a lie generates toxic waste and no one wants to eat it. That’s where deceit comes in. Once people are tricked out of their peace they can be gotten to buy into anything.
Nah
They are deviants
Deviants are easy to bribe,blackmail and control
Normal people have no such issues
Don’t quote me, at least not to THEM, but considering the quality of care I have got in the past, most of my life, most of the time, I would rather take my chances with their shorting me on their wondrous HELLthKKKare, than on any of their hellishly untested vaccines.
Or even “tested” ones.
Seriously, although American Hellthcare has helped me in key way at key moments, a number of times, by and large I always feel like I take my life in my hands should I go in for so much as a nosebleed. They almost killed me a few years ago, or lost me a leg, when I went in for a sports injury hematoma, and they said I had a DVT in the other leg and put me on blood thinners.
Fortunately, I had gone against their prescriptions so many times, that I was well practiced in rejecting a lot of their Rx. I tossed out the blood thinner, especially after the hospital had given me some at SHARP Memorial in San Diego, and the whole charley horse bleeding increased so much the leg turned from slightly red to purple. I struggled out of the hospital on crutches and never went back, the Ijjits. When I got back home a couple weeks later my orthopedic surgeon agreed that most of the problem was their “help” and that I could have easily lost my leg for what he said was not a DVT but a little very treatable vasculitis, which went away soon.
Even so, I went against his recommendation as well, for a new local hospital, and drove myself, with a bulbous leg, to a hospital out of the way that I knew was usually near empty. They got to it just in time and were able to still drain enough blood to allow me to bend my leg the next day, and I didn’t look back. I threw off the crutches with near-Gospel abandon a few days later, sank my first 4 out of 5 three pointers, on a dare from a twit at the gym, and lived to tell the tale.
And I have had not a FEW other close calls much like that, as well as have many family members.
And that, in the richest county with the richest city in the country. Go figure, huh. LOL.
Hancock and his crime partners in so many NATO countries, and their satellite allies spanning the globe, don’t have much of a bargaining chip when it comes to their wondrous hellthcare.
Mostly, if it’s important, and not a critical emergency such as bleeding out, whatever, I drive down 100 miles to the Mexican border.
Down there, the doctors actually CARE about their patients. Poor countries are often that way!
NHS,destroyed my eardrums with grommets I didn’t need,left me almost deaf with no aid that helps,…..promotes vaccines?
Yeah,I’ll pass. Take the vaccine? Hmm,didn’t hear you. Wonder why.
Richest country: Says who, and what does it mean? If you sit at a table with 3 other billionares, on average, you are a billionare. Wealth stopped benefitting the country or the masses when the billionares got their puppets to undo progressive taxation and provide more loopholes, maybe from mid-1970s. In 2018, UN commissioners (“rappoteurs”) for rights and poverty established that USA and UK are riddled with extreme poverty and desperation.
And the louse Bliar did nothing to reverse it
You should see what Eric Clapton said in a recent interview as a result of him having been persuaded against his better judgement, to have the first shot…
He was in Bed in the most acute Pain. His Temperature Went Sky High, so he couldn’t get Cool, and Then He was Freezing Cold, and he couldn’t warm up…
I understand The Brainwashing, but why the hell did he allow them to inject him again.
The second one was much worse. he had the shakes even in the interview, and is seriously worried about his himself and his kids
I admit he dosen’t look that great here, and the video has alredy been deleted, and what I write will probably deleted too…before you ever see it.
That is the world we live in now.
Get used to it, cos its probably going to get a Lot Worse Unless You stand Up and Resist.
These Bastards are Not Only out To Kill Us Old People. They also want to kill our Kids and Grandkids.
Eric Clapton got both injections, whilst Mick Jagger, wrote a song about it.
“Covid Vaccine”
For those who want to read about scientific thought leaving untruths behind, get a feel for how science is about doubting and how science neither claims to know or can know any final truth, how science is beautiful when it manages to break new paths when its former theses no longer fit with available data, the beauty of the human minds who manage to do so, I suggest you read the original articles of Einstein for those interested in physics (or his little book explaining relativity theory), and in biology the original articles of Claude Bernard, the father of physiology, who modernized the old idea of equilibrium and adaptation, a path which is now taken further by the likes of Scott Turner, in geology the works of Alfred Wegener and nearer to us of Mary Tharp.
For those of you interested in the current affair of viruses, I would urge you to read Stefan Lanka https://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-1.pdf
This is why I am insisting on this though its totally off-topic. His work which was done this spring is historical because it once and for all shows that virology has been founded on wrong assumptions.
The experiments he conducted are beautiful and simple and you feel, why didnt any of us think about that… Thats what one feels each time exceptional work is done in science.
Since the subject affects all our lives and has been for a year preventing us to live, it may be worth for readers to familiarize themselves without any prejudice: science is about doubting, science is not about holding on to prejudices, you have to come to it with an open mind and be open to be taken wherever it will take you.
Regarding the virus, its not that there was any fraud or any plot to get people on the wrong track, its just that a certain reductionist perspective (why? read my book given below) has reigned in modern biology longer than in physics: “most biologists today still use the language and the way of thinking of classical mechanics; that is, they describe their molecules as if the parts of the molecules were just stones or something like that. They have not taken notice of the changes which have occurred in quantum theory” – a remark made by Heisenberg in the 1970s.
Its the whole of biology that has been undergoing for some decades an earthquake, or rather growing tremors before the earthquake” as physics was in the early 20th century, and geology until as late as the 70s.
And indeed, the very vast majority as usual are trying to hold on to the ideas made familiar by Pasteur and Kock (mind you Pasteur’s work in chemistry on chirality are beautiful). The majority of the scientific community will fight the oncoming changes as their predecessors did in physics and geology. Its a normal human failing of wishing to stay with what is thought to be known, even if its wrong, the comfort of familiarity, and the unknown of distant shores: will we reach a shore, not get lost in a rough sea and drown. Indeed you need to be a solid pioneering spirit to dare the voyage, for you know not where it will take you, if anywhere. But to its pioneers, humanity owes everything, it owes its survival.
The importance of Lanka’s work is that once and for all it shows that an important aspect of current biology has been mistaken. Once he will have finished the full range of experiments he is conducting, at some point the real earthquake will occur (his work is an important tremor): when some enlightened genial mind will give a unifying theory to all the accumulating data, to the growing realization that they cant be explained within current paradigms. Already within each separate field of biology, new paths are broken, but there is at present no unity, no grand umbrella idea. Scott Turner discusses this in his book (Purpose and Desire).
The beauty and honesty of science is it recognizes it knows no truth, that what it thinks is true today, may be shown to be untrue tomorrow…
Yet to always hope, desperately hope, to reach some truth, and each time it evades us, each time we keep hoping: there is nothing more ennobling than this for humanity, to acknowledge “I know that I know nothing”, yet to never give up.
(anyhow if discussions about science, its beauty, but also how and why it has been distorted into dogma, interests anyone, though I dont like talking about my work, there’s my book: “On Science: Concepts, Cultures, and Limits” (Routledge, 2021)).
I’m sure there are three levels of science, as well as everything else. 1- up to the public level. 2- up to military intelligence, like tha CIA and DARPA. 3- our owners. Everything else is organised that way – the elect, their enforcers and the masses, if you’re willing to notice.
I agree with your precepts. I also have come to understand that the state of things, in leadership and the relations of common folk in society, has been thoroughly corrupted by the modern atomistic quantified Cosmology which permeates every aspect of our Civilisation and has separated us from the natural cycles and ourselves. The virus corruption and the success of the misinformation campaign, is just the inevitable outcome of this misunderstanding of our reality caused by this Cosmology. Another great proponent of true Science has seen this coming for decades:
“In a sense, the starting point and main emphasis in my work has been to discredit, what I term the scientistic worldview, scientistic rather than Scientific, because it is a worldview that pretends to be based upon the hard facts of Science, when in fact it is not Scientific at all but it is a spurious philosophy, a philosphy which in fact was argued against and disproved thousands of years ago, and that is now the philosophy that is being, as it were, foisted upon humanity, beginning with the young in their classrooms, supposedly based upon the scientific findings, the undeniable empirical facts, when in fact, it is not only spurious but as I said it is destructive of our humanity and it impedes our growth, our unfoldement in the full integrality of our being”
Wolfgang Smith, Physicist, Mathematician and Philosopher.
https://philos-sophia.org/news-articles/
Would he segregate those who have led unhealthy/obese lives and would therefore “overwhelm” the NHS should they need help? Hancock should be jailed in the future I hope.
True
I mean,I was obese 5 years ago and through disgust,took my life back.
Never been ill since.
You are bang on
I suspect the vaxed are going to need all health ‘care’ they can get.
That’s it. Anyway we’re probably better off without it, the iatrogenic death toll is pretty awful
….and that will get blamed on the unvaxxed
https://thenewamerican.com/deception-surrounds-covid-vaccines-
“Styx – Come Sail Away (Official Video)”
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/israel-teacher-tells-them-to-take-off-their-mask_ku3I3iBaifaZIJz.html
Don’t know if the title is correct but this looks pretty good all the same.
“Scientists on a committee that encouraged the use of fear to control people’s behavior during the COVID pandemic have admitted its work was ‘unethical’ and ‘totalitarian.’ Members of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behavior (SPI-B) expressed regret about the tactics in a new book about the role of psychology in the Government’s COVID-19 response.” –Telegraph
Article is here https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/18/fear-contagious.aspx?
Yeah, I bet they regret it all the way to the bank.
Covering their sorry asses. It was all “unintentional” don’t we know. Please.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pfkZ2AHbxgc
There’s a newspaper called the light if anybody is interested.thelightpaper.co.uk.
Someone on John Ward’s Slog, posted this very powerful short film, and I watched all of it this morning.
This was my reply. I do not know if it will apear…but read The SLOG, cos it is very good on COVID.
Powerful short film commissioned by The FT (who I admit I have very little respect for). Whilst it portrayed some completely outrageous things, exceedingly well, and yes, my wife does have a smart telly and all of us have has smart phones, since about the time I resigned from my job in IT in 2004, and we also have these Security Cameras, mainly to record wildlife. It seems to deter the burglars, but having a 20 year old wreck of a car, in the drive, is probably more effective, particularly when we all go away on holiday. It’s quite obvious, there is nowt inside the house worth stealing. We also put the radio on, when we go out, and usually whoever comes into feed our cats, normally leaves it on, but we have been told by our neighbour that once when we buggered off for 2 weeks, we left our front door wide open, as we left, and also once left a cat locked up in an airing cupboard, but we all make mistakes, and its good having neighbours who actually trust us with their keys. The cat was O.K.
However, I just think the short film it is more Fear Porn, and bears very little reality to how things are in the Real World. It is designed to make you feel even more paranoid, even if you are having an affair. The reality is, your husband or wife will know, before it is picked up by any of this High Tech “AI”, which so far as I am concerned in observation, is no better now than it was in 2004.
If it is so great, how come, that in observation of my google history on my phone, when I am away with my wife – she has her own phone, that google seems convinced that I am a mother with young children, obsessed with buying cheap second hand hippy dresses on ebay (never been worn, cos the original buyer got too fat), and young children’s toys (mainly that are rather old), because almost everything made now is total crap?
Sure, we probably are witnessing the slow disintegration of Western Civilisation, but its got next to nowt, to do with Artificial Intelligence, and if you are daft enough to get COVID injected, then that is your problem. I suspect a lot of them are fairly benign, cos whoever delivered them and received them, didn’t freeze them quickly enough, and they had gone off.
Tony
Er – link, Tony?
Rhisiart Gwilym
come on you are not thick, and I largely agree with you, but think I was slightly more gentle and diplomatic with MOA than you, but I am banned almost everywhere, but never on MOA so far as I know. He just lets me writes what I want, and I respect such priviledge, which means I hardly ever write anything there.
Bernhard (b),
You are still on my bookmark bar, and I have sent you money before. It wasn’t a lot, 10 Euros twice, so far as I remember, and I am pretty sure it got through.
To send money to people in Germany, is not that easy, and often even more difficult to send $10 to Tom Feeley (ICH). My British Bank Froze My Account, and I had to phone them up, to get it released.
They couldn’t believe, that I was sending $10 to the USA to Information Clearing House. I said yeh, its me its OK, but Tom still didn’t get my money.
I think the $10 to Feeding America got through..
But I am still thinking of you, and Lotte Lenya
“Alabama Song
Oh, show us the way to the next whiskey bar
Oh, don’t ask why, oh, don’t ask why
For we must find the next whiskey bar
For if we don’t find the next whiskey bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die
Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say good-bye
We’ve lost our good old mamma
And must have whiskey
Oh, you know why.
(2x)”
COVID
You are a Good Man,
Thank You,
Tony
Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Jun 18 2021 19:58 utc | 50
For fucking ages we let you post whatever crap you wanted, Tony_0pmoc, and yet you’re tippy-toeing around MOA, “hardly ever writing anything there”, because he’s such a stand up bloke who let’s you post whatever you like, apparently? If this is the case, may I strongly suggest you go take advantage of that some more.
You regularly vent your judgemental crap on our admin, acting creepy, stalkery and vaguely intimidating around our female staff, and we STILL let you post copious amounts of the most unmitigated off-topic shite. And you have the utter gall to flagrantly admit that you keep your shit together for good ol’ MOA?! Despite his woeful record on COVID, apparently he warrants that bit more respect.
Absolutely livid, Tony. Betrayed even. Exploiting our generosity here while not biting the hand that feeds over there. It’s very poor, sir! XD
New rule: please lick MOA’s balls on MOA’s page. Conduct your ‘lonely musings of a boundary-deficient old duffer’ routine evenly across the two platforms. Your reception will doubtless be far superior over there, since he’s such a tolerant lad.
Let MOA extol neofascism and have to deal with Tony_0pmoc as well.
That’s fair, universe. That’s fair.
Or alternatively, Tony_0pmoc, extend the same courtesy to us that you extent to MOA and keep it to a respectful minimum. Thank you.
A2
Ya don’t understand, OffG, you are trying to use logic.
This, all this, isn’t about logic.
It is about separating people from their true selves.
By any and all means.
Confusion, misdirection, dread and posting plausible with bullshit.
Unfortunately, since you seem to have foregone your threat to curtail him, you are increasingly looking like you condone him.
Well, things wouldn’t be complete without the inevitable censure for not ‘curtailing him’ enough, and appearing to ‘condone’ him, or the next post which I look forward to, saying ‘I hope you aren’t going to start ‘curtailing’ him, it’s a slippery slope you know, this place looks more and more like your namesake the Guardian everyday’.
You do realise, it can read like more of the same misdirection.
How does one proceed? A2
‘How does one proceed?’
I know, right !
Misdirection, it has worked so far..
Mark Twain’s pithy quote also comes to mind:
“If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.”
https://youtu.be/4WTpO9y2Dh4
i cant believe FT uploaded this, its great
I used to leave my kitchen window open for my cats,When I used to visit my mum.I still leave my door unlocked where I live to be honest,Just because I have 2 young adults,I’ve got a good guard dog though
Moral of the story I have nothing to steal.
An insider’s tip, from someone in the toy business: if you want to see kids have fun for hours on end, just give them a large corrugated carton, like the boxes a kitchen appliance is packed in. Cats love the smaller version.
Thursday was very humid, I went cycling anyway and returned pouring sweat. Mrs W was very accommodating and stood out of my way as I made my way back in to the house. She didn’t even make an issue of the puddle I left on the floor. I had a shower and then enjoyed a bowl of porridge she kindly made. I’d list the additional ingredients, but Tony, I think even you would find that boring, so I’ll spare you the apricots, raisins, figs, cranberries, linseed and (oh how so naughty) maple syrup. Damn it, sorry Tony, I spilled the beans. Afterwards, I went back to work as a computer programmer.
All of that is true.
We are all tony_0pmoc
Which bear were you?
Funny enough I have just come back from a rather strenuous cycle ride sweating like a pig. Mind you, living in Malta will do that to you. Time for a spinach smoothie.
More crucial insights from Reiner Fuellmich:
Another brilliant interview on so many levels. I could and do watch for these for hours. A great communicator who offers solutions.
I haven’t watched this one yet, and I like everything he says, and what he is proposing to do.
But what has he actually DONE so far, apart from interview people on video?
Yes, I’m getting impatient, and perhaps that’s not good, but we are getting “crucial insights” from a great many people these days, usually without them leading to any tangible action.
I’ll certainly watch this video with great interest. Fuellmich seems entirely genuine to me, but words are not deeds. We need some sort of timeline.
Something horrible is stalking this planet right now, and it needs to be stopped in its tracks.
Just an example from a two-minute skim of the video – I have to sleep…:
Fuellmich talks about us needing to build a new system, where small-to-medium sized farms, for example, will serve us far better than the gigantic corporations which we don’t need at all.
Okay, I agree.
But the elephant in that room is the fact that the gigantic corporations already have a stranglehold upon those small and medium businesses – they essentially own them through various ‘Catch-22’ mechanisms and old business tricks which make the small-fry competition dependent upon them.
So does anybody seriously imagine that these corporations are going to stand politely aside while the small and medium enterprises claim actual farmland to be used on their own terms?
The monsters will fight tooth and nail to prevent that from happening, and they have the – admittedly illusory – financial resources to bring out some big real guns to blow us away, as well as using their very powerful friends in the propaganda business to make us out to be the bad guys.
I am still reserving judgement here for when I have seen the whole video, but it seems to me that if we ever manage to organize well enough to get a new system off the ground, it will have to be so powerful that it can resist the sort of colossal bribe money (again illusory) – not to mention outright threats – which our corporations are certain to use against any such action.
I want to know what could possibly help us to make such a powerful new system and how we could keep infiltration similar to what happened to Britain’s Labour Party out of it? What actual tools do we have with which to resist the inevitable, violent reaction of the enormously well-equipped parasite class?
I feel that the battle which now looms close is an apocalyptic one, and that imagery from previous political battles between management and workers is not going to prepare us adequately.
Although I am religious, I would never claim that ‘God is on my side’, in such a confrontation. It’s more complicated than that, but I think many people are going to experience some unexpected religious concepts entering their lives very soon.
“May you live in interesting times” doesn’t even begin to explain this mess.
Thought for the day from Phil Greaves:
In propaganda the wording is always significant.
Curious phraseology from the news:
“The vaccine has been proven to cut the chance of landing up in hospital by 75%.”
So – not focussing on the virus specifically there but diverting attention to “landing up in hospital”. It’s as if covid has morphed into all illnesses and the vax is now the general elixir of life!
Apparently it’s cutting the chance of airliner pilots landing at all…
NHS GP writes to her MP –
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/06/18/nhs-doctor-matt-hancock-is-not-fit-for-public-office-and-needs-to-be-removed-before-he-inflicts-further-harm-on-the-people-of-this-country/
She isn’t a fan of Hancock either, but then again who is?
To be honest, I couldn’t care less. I will live organically and as naturally as I can, stay in touch with bodily patterns. My herbal knowledge has sufficed in keeping me away from the ‘doc’ for a decade so far and any other emerging troubles, tibetan and ayurvedic practitioners are suitable. Emergency treatment may be a problem but just live safely. If a terminal condition comes for me then, so be it. I’m glad the old normal is gone. Pharmaceutical Allopathic Medicine can go back to hell, where it came from. This is the way. Φαρμακις (Pharmacist) – Greek meaning Sorceress or deceiver.
If you want to know how I did this:
Heal the Gut – Dr Campbell-McBride; GAPS diet and the Specific Carbohydrate Diet
Probiotic – fermented foods are key to a healthy microbiome.
Gelatin – bone broth – the missing protein from western diets is so important.
Deal with your Emotions – learn to feel again, materialism has stunted our growth and sent all our energy to our heads, emotion is in the body and can be felt and if it’s not, it can make you sick.
Gentle exercise is all that is required. Walking is good.
Eat Organic – try to get all nutrients from natural foods, only supplement the most needed i.e. Vit D3 in winter, maybe magnesium and fish oils.
Most conditions can be dealt with this way and you will stop sicknesses from developing later on. The gut is everything in health, intelligence and emotional stability.
All the best.
Sa6re, do you have a link which gives some actual info about her GAPS diet? I just wasted my time listening to an entire interview (on fx medicine), but it gave not a single syllable about what the diet entailed. She merely characterized over & over telling us how wonderful it is.
Is it just the usual common sense or is there something unique?
Buy the book. Or download it, I think its on Scribd. Or some health sites have simplified it into easy to follow. The GaPS and Specific Carbohydrate diet are specific diets. They have much lower Carbs and particular veg, such as sweet potatoes, for microbiome fibre, fermented fruit and veg for digestive and probiotic purposes, and lessons on bio-available proteins, than the Corporate designed Western diet. When researching these diets are noticed how closely they resemble the diet of ancient and unspoilt Cultures diets. Also there is a lot to gain from learning Dave Aspreys Bulletproof Diet, he talks of a diet that limits possible poisons from food, the simple table can be found freely online. P.s. you might want to get a juicer.
:- Fibrous foods – the only thing our symbionts in the gut need.
:- Early and adequate sleep in the dark.
:- Dropping insecurities and obsessions.
Yes, ‘western’ modern medicine has morphed from war and emergency medicine into lifelong disease management via chemical chronic intervention. See how many conditions e.g IBS, diabetes, Chrons, MS, fibrosis, COPD, and the list is too long, are categorised as of ‘unknown’ origin. They are not hiding anything, they actually don’t have a clue.
I once asked a endocrinology consultant dr the actual reasons why some people develop high collesterol, and after babbling on for five minutes of spiel he had to admit he did not know!
Maybe it has been taken over by controlling people after realising it was a great system of control over populations or maybe it was designed to become this from its conception. It doesn’t matter now, what matters is to learn how to stay away from the healthcare system and pharmaceuticals.
The truth is most people for the simplest complaint use a drug as a quick fix not realising there are always consequences down the line from the use of all these products. We need to learn that sometimes we are meant to feel unwell and suffer a little pain, mostly from our own actions.
Agree completely. Everyone I know who takes one kind of tablet ends up taking a dozen different ones, each to try to cancel out a side effect of another one.
It would not appear to be your body, your choice.
Would such a thing be a violation of the Nuremberg code of medical ethics?
Whatever happened to equality before the law?
Off-topic but any comment on the Chesham and Amersham by-election? My interpretation of it is that the Conservatives and Johnson are not as popular as the opinion polls suggest, and that if discontent can be monopolised by one candidate or party then this latent unpopularity becomes clear.
My guess is that it was a protest vote after Freedom Day was delayed just a couple of days earlier.
A sixteen thousand plus tory majority becomes an eight thousand majority for the libdums. Over 24 thousand votes switched; a 25% swing. You can bet your life that this is an explosion of discontent. The lamestream mediawhores had to announce it, because they couldn’t hope to get away with not. But amongst the whores comment is muted about this huge about-face – in the heart of the tory Home Counties!!
Lacking any meaningful opposition in Paedominster from the ex-Labour party, this is the way that discontent has to manifest itself; this and huge – censored, unreported – demos.
Wow
I mean they are all evil twats
But that is something else
Sounds like a lot of people got vaccinations, then woke up to the fact nothing changed.
Some backtracking off blaming China in the mockingbird media today. The trail from China into Western sources is just too clear.
Instead the Fraud quotes a Belgian doctor on the real enemy: “Nature is the biggest bio-terrorist”. Yes, Nature has been tried and found wanting. We should all migrate into ‘the cloud’ ASAP and meantime dose up on Big Pharma to prop our useless bodies up until that moment is ready.
Unlike the fake 1984 ‘Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia’ conflict with China, this war on Nature is very real. It’s the true agenda beneath the ‘Save the Planet’ rhetoric.Doing two contradictory things at once is no problem, it’s how psy-ops work with the goal of disorientation and demoaralisation.
Anyone who thinks that conflcit with China is real should watch some of the Chinese Space Agency and their laughably fake footage. Why doesn’t NASA call it out for the ridiculous fakery it so manifestly is?
Humanity, in its on-going war with Nature, has always just assumed the struggle to be one-sided. It’s beginning to wonder, though, if maybe it ever so slightly misjudged. And it’s scared shitless that Nature might have only been pretending to be subdued.
Nature: you do not want to mess with humanity. They are the be all and end all. And if they have to destroy themselves to prove their point, by God they will.
More faith. To be honest I think these satanic mindset individuals have found that nature is far more complex than they can possibly understand and their plans only seem to work temporarily. They can pollute the ocean but it cleans itself up, they can synthesize the chemicals but it breaks them down, they manipulate genes but it corrects itself.
The propagandised Space race, is just that, propaganda, much of it is fabricated for illusion. The great hidden observation by these scientism maniacs is they have no long lasting power over nature at all.
Ultimately the bio-security state is a hopeless fantasy that will only last as long as the mass play along, which may be a short while but it will never control every one ‘cos birthrates have collapsed the world over and as populations age and dramatically decrease, the elite die off, the current situation won’t be tenable. Thats why mass immigration in UK is so ridiculously high. They may end our civilisation but whom ever survives will grow back. They can’t win. Life here is temporary and they are terrified. Materialism is a globalist fantasy and they have put all their eggs in that basket and Science has shown it’s not real. There is more to life.
Very well said, Sa6re. The problem as I see it is that people who feel “outside” of nature, feel like nature is something that must be dominated and manipulated, end up rising to the top of the hierarchy in most civilizations. And then they have the power to impose their will on others.
Whereas people who feel more at home inside nature, who feel in some sense that “nature / God / the Goddess” will provide, don’t crave and chase power the same way – so they don’t get it! Who acquires political capital? Those who want it the most and will do absolutely anything to get it!
In its most benign form, the will to power over nature could simply be a desire for scientific understanding, it need not entail hostility to nature, it can be reconciled with awe and reverence toward Mother Nature. But unfortunately, great literature from Faust to Frankenstein portrays – accurately – the scientific spirit being warped into the Faustian drive to dominate and control, to manipulate and shackle Mother Nature in acts of great hubris. Despite the endless variations on the Faustus theme explored by the greatest writers and poets this just gets shunted aside, as if these warnings don’t matter. It’s just poetry, after all, what does some airy fairy poet have to teach me if I am Bill Gates, world’s richest man?
The quote Edwige mentions – “Nature is the biggest bio-terrorist”. – is one of the sickest, most deranged, most psychotic quotes I’ve ever read. It is a sure sign you are dealing with someone infinitely more insane and dangerous than the patients in any psych wards. The lunatics really are running the asylum.
I’ve noticed that, everything reverts back to the original eventually, even me. It’s quite possible that the covi-thing is disintegrating and phase 2 the vacobs cene will too. Hopefully,the genetically modified homo psychopathicus will as well.
We may well destroy ourselves entirely; we’re certainly accurately on course to wipe-down our numbers dramatically, as the Long Descent away from hitech industrial ‘civilisation’ proceeds. (A bunch of unmandated criminal shysters trying to trigger and manage a controlled rather than an uncontrolled descent is what the covid scam is all about, since many of them already understand that the descent is now inevitable; we’ve already over-reached ourselves, bigtime.)
However, I fancy it will be a touch more difficult to kill “the Tough Bitch” (pathfinding biologist Lynn Margulis’s description of Mam Gaia, in one of her books: ‘Symbiotic Earth’). The cold fact is that Mam has survived MUCH worse things than hom-sap can throw at her now, or will every be able to throw. Nuclear war “wiping out all life on Earth”? Joke! Take a look at the Chernobyl exclusion zone, or Fukushima; or Hiroshima and Nagasaki now. Take a look at the thriving life around the super-hot, super-high-pressure volcanic vents on the deep ocean floor; or the abundant life under the ice in the cold, violent seas around Antarctica.
We’re ridiculous little human farties with a laughably inflated idea of our own power and importance! God’s chosen? Now where have I heard that bloody nonsense before…?
A tiny percentage of the people I meet are like that, men and women that is. But many are terribly influenced by the mutant few. I’ve been looking at some very different interpretations of the Bible that make a lot of sense. The given reading is easily dismissed by those who use other people’s eyes.
The ultra-wealthy intended “hitech industrial ‘civilisation” for themselves. By 1950s to 1970s, it seemed to them that the unwashed masses were getting their hopes up, and wanted to join the party. Hence the double-talk beginning with the Club of Rome report.
By this, I do not deny that the insane rulers and their governments have almost destroyed the narrow environmental conditions we need as humans.
Not God chosen but God created. Those humanist ideas are exactly the ideas of the elites you seem to criticise, ‘ we are just star dust’. If we are not God’s creation then we just evolved from mud, therefore all our ideas including truth, logic and ethics and morals are man made; therefore they are subject to change, in that case covid IS real because it lives in people’s minds.
In that world the ones who hold power decide what’s truth and what isn’t.
Why doesn’t NASA call it out for the ridiculous fakery it so manifestly is?
Because NASA is guilty of exactly the same fraud. Fakery is the name of the game. In medicine, microbes and the real black hole of 60 million dollars a day wasted on fraud and hoaxes. When all NASA really do with that taxpayer money, is invent ways to wage war on humanity.
Yes, it would be a case of the Command Module calling the Lunar Excursion Module black. 😉
Because NASA itself is ridiculous fakery. Or you still believe that man walked on the moon with technology from 52 years ago that they no longer possess. Travelled through a vacuum in a tin foil tent, landed on the moon and then ejected from it to hook back up with the module still orbiting around which then propelled them back to earth, and all that without ever been able to test and practise it in real conditions beforehand. And also spoke to the president from the moon on the phone in real time!
Yeah, I remember Victoria Pricinple being live from LA on British TV and there was a 3 second delay to receive questions….in 1985.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-irish-light-has-arrived-gemma-o-039-doherty_OJJlJctkZyDfXQO.html
Freebie Irish newspaper just out – to give people some facts about what’s going on.
Power to your elbow.
But it makes you sign up before you have even seen the site once. Big mistake.
Well spotted
Give us your details you filthy denialist
Today I was informed by my sister that the venue for my nieces wedding is stating that the guests must have a lateral flow test 24 hours before the wedding day and must have had either 1 or 2 of the ” vaccine ” injections. It seems since the ” vaccine ” rollout isn’t going to plan the salami slice approach is now underway in the UK hence the drum of propaganda concerning the number of ” vaccinated” has to be taken with a lorry load of salt !
Perhaps your sister might have a rethink after reading this article:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/vaccine-victims-funeral-on-the-day-she-should-have-wed/
Vaccine victim’s funeral on the day she should have wed
“MARK Tomlin and Lucy Taberer were excited to get their coronavirus shots to begin planning their wedding and get back to ‘normal’. But instead of a joyous union, Mr Tomlin had to arrange his fiancée’s funeral after she died of complications caused by her AstraZeneca jab.
He said: ‘Lucy’s funeral was on the date we planned to get married, May 4th. She was a Star Wars fan, and that date is special to fans – “May the force (4th) be with you”. The 4th should have been happy for ever but is now filled with sorrow.”
Why anyone who’s been vaccinated is behaving like some n*zi towards anyone who hasn’t, for whatever reason, is baffling to me. What concern is there from someone who’s vaccinated? Don’t they believe it protects them? I’m genuinely puzzled.
As in my answer to rob 2, it is not my niece but the owner of the venue who happens to be a member of the House of Lords.
I hope they’re wise to the BS. If not, I think Steve Kirsch’s work is a good starting place for normies:
https://trialsitenews.com/are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe-and-effective/
Unfortunately, it’s not my niece who is demanding these conditions but the owner who happens to be a member of the House of Lords.
Right, I understood that from your initial post. I’m just hoping that your niece see’s the burning hoops for what they are, stand firm and forego the big, white wedding party or seek another location. It would be the venue’s financial loss anyway. The video link is to nudge her in the right direction just in case she’s on the fence. My best wishes to her!
Unfortunately, I seriously doubt it just from the fact of the location she chose and knowing her father !
tell the private venue operator to fuck off.
If it was my decision, it would be first and last decision!
You can make a stand and not cave in. One day they’ll see they were on the wrong, and some of them will sympathise with you. Or lose self respect and follow the crowd into oblivion.
I’d give my niece’s wedding a miss if that was the case. Or people should start having their wedding receptions at their houses like people always did, and save a shitload of cash in the process.
Here is the original video with all info: https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/cpe-english:f
This is extremely important: final refutation of virology. Have gone through his experiment description, seems fine. Dr Cowan has checked all this and so have others in the field.
It looks like that for many people, the hospitals will be finishing the job, that the “vaccines” have started.
I thought the hospitals had started it in the first place.
They can have it. I’m done with the NHS.
>>> They’re talking about the idea the NHS could prioritise care for people who’ve been “vaccinated” over those who refuse the “vaccine”.
So basically pretty much the same as Mr Hancock’s idea that he, the NHS and long term care homes could or could not choose to prioritize care offered to their most vulnerable patients.
Mr Hancock remains a god, but not the God.
Mr. Hancock remains the lying psychopath we’d come to see him as.
Precarious position to be in.
A god? He’s just a effeminate little imp.
He is a startled mouse without the faintest idea of who it was that dumped that huge pile of cheese in front of him.
One day he will be smacked in the face by a member of the public, and he will run home crying – always assuming he has a home …
He has no knowledge of his current profession at all.
VITAL INFO I received, so am exceptionally making this comment, in case some of you do not know it:
on 21 April 2021, Dr Stefan Lanka gave IRREFUTABLE experimental proof that virology is not based on scientific methods, that its assumptions are WRONG.
https://rumble.com/vhzlm7-the-final-refutation-of-virology-by-dr.-stefan-lanka.html?mref=bml1z&mc=75y05
This is a video account voiced over in English from the original Russian. Am trying to get hold of the actual paper. Will give a link to that one when I do.
Please share as widely as you can.
I listened to about 10 minutes of this, but was not particularly impressed. Comparing eg – people used to think that scurvy was an infectious disease, spread by a virus, yet it was cured by lemons – cos it was a vitamin C deficiency, and not an infectious disease, proves absolutely nothing with regards to the existence or non-existence of virus’s.
However, I do not know if something commonly understood as a virus, exists or not.
I can completely accept the philosophy that by far the main cause of disease is poor nutrition, poor sanitation, and sitting there doing nothing watching TV, when you should be getting some exercise fighting with the slugs & snails, eating your own veg.
I also accept, that visiting your doctor, particularly as you get older, is an extremely dangerous practice, cos he will almost certainly find something wrong with you, and prescribe some drugs for you, that will almost certainly kill you, if you take them on a long term basis, yet some of them work….
I am also 99.9% convinced that infectious diseases exist, and hospitals are one of the most dangerous places in the world to be admitted, though in my case a visit to A&E was worthwhile in January 2021, otherwise I would probably be dead now.
Tony
Tony, have you listened to the description of the experiments. Whether you like that girl or not is irrelevant.
What matters here is the scientific work. I am actually in touch with people connected with it, and among scientists there has been discussion and honest scientists are accepting it. We are waiting for the full range of the experimental results to be available. They still arent. Its amazing work, its beautiful work.
And so simple. Im sorry Tony.
Im sorry I had thought peoples of the world would be interested in one of most important recent scientific work which affects all our lives.
But we are still in the age of village gossip I see, I believe, you believe. Oh did you hear. I had this. Oh you know, and then my spouse got it as well. Oh must be a virus about.
This is not science.
If you want to discuss the scientific aspects we are all open to it. We dont hold science to be a matter of experts, we are happy to discuss with all. But the discussion has to be serious.
Anyhow I have made the information available. If the majority of the peoples of the world are incapable or unwilling to understand science, are unwilling to accept the little it can find out, in other words are unwilling to accept observation based conclusions, that is up to them.
With them or without them, the truth will shine forth, slowly but steadily.
I have no time for fruitless discussions.
She is lovely, and I have bought the book, recommended on here. I have just not read it yet, but I will. At the end of the day, I largely agree.
Have a nice summer. I know you mean well.
I watched it because she’s adorable. Something about viruses don’t exist, or don’t exist because they can’t be named, or something.
Well, after all this detestable Hancock monster knows quite well that those who have been idiot enough to have had the jab will be the ones who need the hospitals most.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Mr Hancock is instructing the fake medicine people to decrease their duty of care, when they couldn’t care less. How poignant…
Via Andy Wright Talking Really Uncut at Brand New Tube, please watch and spread this far and wide. Do we all have to pay for the care of those getting jabbed who are falling ill, Mr Hancock? ‘UK’ Government Told To Stop Jabs Because They Are Toxic: https://covidtruefacts.blogspot.com/2021/06/uk-government-told-to-stop-jabs-because.html
Just seen confirmation of my conspiracy theory re NHS privatisation-
Dildo Harding applies for head of NHS, her husband, Tory MP joins consulting company involved with privatising NHS.
You don’t know what you have till it’s gone…
Has this been put up here already?
https://rapsodia.fi/covid-vaccine-genocide-english-subtitles/
Absolutely sick. As is the coercion of care workers into getting the untested jab. Did you know there are many care workers out there working night shifts who could earn the same or more working day shifts in shops? Just blogged this: https://covidtruefacts.blogspot.com/2021/06/katie-hopkins-support-care-workers.html
Thank you! Maintain the pressure…never surrender!