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WATCH: Perspectives on the Pandemic #16 The big experiment is well underway, and the hypothesis it seeks to prove is as bold as it is terrible.

Dr Mike Yeadon, formerly a Vice President and Chief Science Officer at Pfizer, believes the big experiment is well underway, and that the hypothesis it seeks to prove is as bold as it is terrible.

A cogent and clear thinker who has been attacked in proportion to his qualifications, Dr. Yeadon, at great personal risk, issues a chilling warning, not just about the grave dangers surrounding the injections, but about the looming threat of digital health “passports” that will take inexorable control over every aspect of our lives.

If we allow them.

We have been warned.

The Interviewee: Dr Michael Yeadon is a British doctor and research scientist, the former chief science officer with Pfizer, and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd. He has authored many articles and papers on the coronavirus panic, and appeared in the fourth instalment of our Experts series.

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Lucy
Lucy
Sep 16, 2021 11:28 AM

I have so much respect for this humble Man.. giving up everything to share Truth! Courageous and Strong! Thank you 🙏🏿

Bitcake
Bitcake
Sep 16, 2021 7:14 AM

It comes down to this… “When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest!” (Anonymous)

Throughout your entire life you continually DECIDE to either stop being mistaken –or stop being honest– when learning the truth. Which one of the two true answers applies to YOU in terms of the Covid-19 truth? Find out in “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room –The Holocaustal Covid-19 Coronavirus Madness: A Sociological Perspective & Historical Assessment Of The Covid “Phenomenon”” at https://www.rolf-hefti.com/covid-19-coronavirus.html

Dors
Dors
Jul 27, 2021 6:43 PM

Correction may be due for the following phrase:

“Dr Mike Yeadon, formerly a Vice President and Chief Science Officer at Pfizer”

Yeadon’s Linkedin page shows that the title

“Chief Science Officer at Pfizer” is correct,

while his other title has been :

VP of Allergy & Respiratory Research.

I hope that you, in the OffG team, will show your usual painstaking care for factual precision in this instance as well.

K. Cavan
K. Cavan
Sep 15, 2021 1:21 PM
Reply to  Dors

In the corporate world, the term “Vice President” is used to denote seniority & would be applied to several senior roles within the organisation. There could be dozens of Vice Presidents within a corporate structure, where it would indicate being the person ultimately controlling the part of the corporation they are involved in. In fact, it indicates that Dr. Yeadan was in charge of Allergy & Respiratory Research. The use of the definite article, as in “a Vice President” rather than “Vice President” does, I think, make this clear.

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 24, 2021 4:36 PM

testing in a different browser

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 24, 2021 4:37 PM
Reply to  Cesca

ooh, it worked, so glad i worked it out, had a tough cpl of days.

Apologies for not checking sooner, shld have realised

Nick Marsh
Nick Marsh
Jul 22, 2021 3:29 PM

Mike Yeadon, you are hero and history will judge you as such.

Emy_civ
Emy_civ
Jul 22, 2021 2:40 PM

Hello,

I recently started reading this blog following the complete breakdown of my worldview; it has an eye-opener. Can someone please provide information on where and how I can order Ivermectin?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 22, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Emy_civ

Based on the statistics there is no reason to think there’s any need to treat an exotic disease with special medicine. Those testing positive with a PCR test and subsequently dying, or those testing positve post mortem, both regardless of actual cause of death, are very frail, elderly people. A2

plasos
plasos
Jul 23, 2021 1:31 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Good one admin. Those who claim ivermectin or wathever drug is good are controlled opposition or fooled people

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2021 12:48 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Not since they rolled out the jab in a big way.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 23, 2021 1:17 PM
Reply to  mgeo

I’ve yet to see any stats on that. Do you have any age-specific IFR, post jab rollout?

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 24, 2021 7:53 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Three quarters of Covid-19 infections in Singapore in the last 4 weeks were among vaccinated individuals. The government has vaccinated nearly 75% of its 5.7 million people. Of the 1,096 locally transmitted cases, 44% were fully vaccinated people, while 30% were partially vaccinated. -Reuters 2021-07-23

In Los Angeles, USA, fully vaccinated people made up 20% of covid cases in 2021-06. -Bloomberg 2021-07-23

Jabbed people travelling by air >4 hours may suffer blood clots. -US CDC warning on its website c. ~2021-06

Up to 2021-03-13, European Medicines Agency noted 3,964 reports of deaths and 162,610 of injuries in the subjects of injections with the first 3 experimental jabs. -healthimpactnews.com

As of 2021-06-60, UK govt. has logged reports for 309,272 people. In these reports, it noted a total of 1,037,376 “reactions” (74% for Astra-Zeneca and 22% for Pfizer) and 1,440 deaths (65% for Astra-Zeneca and 30% for Pfizer). -ukcolumn.org 2021-07-01

There were a total of 463,457 reports of adverse events from “covid vaccines”, including 10,991 deaths and 48,385 serious injuries from 2020-12-14 and 2020-07-09. -US CDC (VAERS) 2021-07-16

US CDC reported that for ~10,000 reports of the fully vaccinated getting infected, 27% were asymptomatic, 61% were mildly ill, 10% were hospitalised and 2% died. It has since stopped accepting reports of such asymptomatic cases. -off-guardian.org 2021-05-26

In Israel, about half of the 46 patients hospitalised in serious condition as of early July were vaccinated. -Reuters 2021-07-23

Notes: This does not cover (a) the falling ages of the victims (b) those victimised by extended contact with the jabbed (c) victms of flu/pneumonia which may be what covid is. The many banned and derided modern and traditional treatments address the illness in the victims, regardless of what it really is.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 24, 2021 11:34 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Thanks for this info. Always try to link if you can, it helps orientate others at finding things out for themselves. However, thanks! A2

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 22, 2021 5:15 PM
Reply to  Emy_civ

It depends on where you live. Ivermectin is not licensed in the UK.

Apparently the manufacturer has to apply, so clearly none have.

It is used in “third world” countries as an anti-parasitic.

You could try “googling” it, there are sites that claim to be selling it, but whether or not they are selling the genuine article or not is another matter.

And it may not be legal to buy it from a source overseas and bring it here.

There is then also the question of dosage. You would need to ensure that you knew the correct dose.

Personally, I’m not going to bother. I’ve not had so much as a sniffle for two years now. I’ll take my chances.

P Kavanagh
P Kavanagh
Jul 23, 2021 5:58 AM
Reply to  Emy_civ

You can get some from Health Impacts on the telegram channel; Medical Freedom UK

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 23, 2021 10:35 PM
Reply to  Emy_civ

Try these folks if you are in the US..…https://speakwithanmd.com/

Gregory Fisher
Gregory Fisher
Jul 25, 2021 10:02 AM
Reply to  Emy_civ

Online, India. Be careful to get Human, not dog medicine 😅. Awaiting post. $130 delivered to Australia. For correct dosage, X100 tablets, 6mg, every 2nd day, 0.2mg x your weight, I’m 90 kilo so …3x6mg=18mg/on 2nd days. $1.30/tablet and I have a month supply. Importantly! This is NOT an mRNA Gene Therapy, it has NO #spikeprotein It has been subscribed to by WHO for a River Blindness condition and 3.5 billion doses have been utilized.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 22, 2021 2:46 AM

It’s just an ordinary Primary School that my 5 year old Grandchild goes to, very like the one I used to go to..and now its the end of term, and he first brought a photo home of the entire class including the teachers…Then he brought his work folder home from the day he started school, and his photo is on the front of the folder in full A4 glory. He doesn’t look particularly happy for some quite obvious reasons.

  1. he has got a hole in his head. he had an accident on his dads boat, a couple of weeks before they started school. It hadn’t quite healed up.
  2. but he really likes his school and his teachers, and he has got a present to take back to them…it maybe just a thank you card, but there is something else within there, which will make his teachers proud of him, just to say thank you for the work they have done. he was lucky, cos his Dad got himself classed as a key worker, and so he went to school throughout most of the lockdown.

I just kind or pray for no more lockdown

Lets get our lives back

No more masks. No more COVID jabs.

We have got to fight for this for the future of our Grandkids.

They are Children. They haven’t done anything wrong.

Some great artwork there.

Tony

Rubicon
Rubicon
Jul 22, 2021 12:29 AM

Just an FYI: in comparing the dictates of The UK, and some Western European nations AS COMPARED TO The US, there seems to be a lower level of dictates in the US than The UK, France, and Italy.
(Full disclosure: we are both retired and NEVER watch or read mainstream news.)

As compared to The UK, the EU nations VERSUS the US….in the US, each, individual STATE has the legal means to either legally ignore, or obfuscate many of the FEDERAL Govt’s dictates.

Question: why can’t the different political regions or provinces in The UK or the EU have the means to legally forestall, or refuse to abide by the central agents of said country?

Or are your regional politicians forced into compliance?

grr
grr
Jul 22, 2021 8:51 AM
Reply to  Rubicon

UK doesn’t have the system of states.

kevin
kevin
Jul 22, 2021 4:34 PM
Reply to  Rubicon

The US is a federation and there are states’ rights. Same for Canada (provinces), Australia, Brazil, Mexico, Germany and some others, although the extent of rights of each sub-national government depends on the country. The US has one of the most far-reaching degrees of state autonomy.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 10:07 PM

I have noticed from the comments that there seems to be some dispute over the viewability of this video.

I regularly use two browsers to access the internet: Firefox and Internet Explorer 11.

I have been unable to see the video when I go on Firefox, my browser of choice for accessing this site, there’s just a blank space where it should be, but it is fully viewable on Internet Explorer.

Why that is, I have no idea. Maybe I have some security settings that prevent my viewing it on Firefox. I don’t know.

I suggest to those that cannot see it here that they try to view it on another browser. As I said, I have found it readily viewable on Internet Explorer 11.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2021 9:16 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Microsoft keeps introducing changes they hope will become popular, e.g. to video and image formats. You can download some gibberish to access them – provided you have been keeping your device up-to-date as they define it.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 22, 2021 5:08 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Not on my PC. I blocked their automatic updates for windows.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Jul 22, 2021 1:19 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

John, are you using the Firefox Facebook container extension by any chance? The vid is hosted on Facebook (Facespook) and the above extension will block it.

If so just allow it and it will display

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 22, 2021 5:10 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

Thanks, but no. It maybe is something I did ages ago and have forgotten about it.

I watched it on IE11, so I’m not too worried.

AlexVZ
AlexVZ
Jul 21, 2021 8:58 PM

Can we take a moment to single out Nicola Sturgeon, who said recently she wants to keep the option of vaccinating all children. The prosecution and sentencing of this disgusting woman in the eventual war crimes trials with be a wonderful day for humanity.

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 23, 2021 6:39 PM
Reply to  AlexVZ

Won’t it just.

I was getting ready to move back home to Scotland before this kicked off. I just don’t want to now. I know not to judge a country by it’s political party but that woman frightens me.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 8:23 PM

I don’t think it’s really dawned on some people even at this stage that the mRNA in the vaccines along with the other shite has nothing to do With an alleged SARS-COV-2 VIRUS or any of its fictitious “variants”. Alice in Wonderland still dictates the issue.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 7:24 PM

For those of you (or your friends) who have had the vaccine and wish to mitigate any potential DNA damage or other effects. There are some supplements that are available that may help. These include natural polyphenols found in foods, also phenols which have the capacity to donate electrons and scavenge damaging free radicals that have a mutagenic effect.

Certain alkaloids, glutathione, carotenoids and glucans have all been found to protect our DNA. Zinc supplements have also been found to reverse DNA damage best taken as zinc gluconate or citrate.

Broccoli extract is also useful in DNA repair as it contains sulphoraphane which is an enzyme activator. Turmeric contains circumin and is claimed to be one of the most effective substances for preserving cellular DNA, detoxification and the reduction of inflammation. This only scratches the surface to foods and supplements that may help to protect or repair any DNA damage that may result from vaccines.

Annette
Annette
Jul 22, 2021 1:09 AM
Reply to  -CO

-CO in your opinion, why is the entire French leadership of the resistance so adamantly holding on to the virus dogma? Do you think its a fully controlled leadership? At this point, Im wondering if it wouldnt be safer to leave the country where both those within and without the narrative agree. What do you think? There are people among the grassroot who are open to the truth, but absolutely no one at the top. What in your opinion will happen in UK? Do you think it will descend into chaos in the autumn?

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 11:23 AM
Reply to  Annette

Annette, the virus dogma is the sine qua non of this massive outrageous fraud that we have all been subjected to since 2020. TPTB know only too well if the virus myth is exposed then it’s game over. That’s why they will do everything in their power to avoid litigation. No virus =No Scamdemic= No excuse for Covid -19 Vaccines. It begs the question what would happen if the people really come to terms with the truth instead of going along with crap and propaganda from the MSM etc. The ‘leadership’ if you can call it that are just ♙ pawns in the game on the global chessboard, and yes they are indeed “controlled”.

If nothing concrete is done in the UK to stop these sociopaths in power then we can only await our karma and that will come as sure as the Ox 🐂 that draws the cart.

Whether or not things descend into chaos will depend on what people do or fail to do in the meantime in a bid to resolve the problems they now have to face and will have to face in the future.

Jacaranda
Jacaranda
Jul 23, 2021 11:18 AM
Reply to  -CO

-CO this is all very impressive, and thank you. But how firmly is all this on scientific foundation? Or just a hunch?

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 2:42 PM
Reply to  Jacaranda

Most of it has a firm scientific and theoretical basis some is based on reasonable hypothesis.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Jul 21, 2021 7:02 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2021-07-20. My health is my job. 2 weeks to … to … a social credit score. Blood: unvaxx vs vaxx. Yeadon: 8 lies
https://paulthepaperbear.wordpress.com/2021/07/20/your-alternative-update-on-covid19-for-2021-07-20-my-health-is-my-job-2-weeks-to-to-a-social-credit-score-blood-unvaxx-vs-vaxx-yeadon-8-lies/

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 21, 2021 5:21 PM

Does this prove transmissable diseases exist?

Atop the Baltimore VA Hospital, they constructed an air-tight closed ventilation system that connected a six-room tuberculosis ward to an exposure chamber with 150 guinea pigs. (Among rodent animal models, only guinea pigs could cough and sneeze, making them ideal for studying how respiratory diseases spread.) The guinea pigs were exposed to the infected air over a four-year period. A second group of 150 guinea pigs acted as controls: their air ducts were irradiated with UV-C lamps to kill TB bacilli.In the test group, an average of three guinea pigs per month contracted TB, while no controls were infected.

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/the-experiment-that-proved-airborne-disease-transmission.html

i.e. was something passed through the air to pass on a disease?

Karry
Karry
Jul 21, 2021 5:51 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

D’you know – I don’t know and I’ve come to the conclusion that nobody does.

During that first confinement, here in France, I did the sourdough-mother thing. It took weeks and it was looking disastrous until I put it near some over-ripe apples. Pouf! Result! Wild yeast in the air, they say…and it did taste of apples.

It’s still alive, btw, and it makes great doughnuts.

In terms of the ‘medical establishment’, I believe that they have been, deliberately, led away from ever finding out.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 6:46 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Yes but not necessarily ” in the air” in the way you might think. The answer can be found in the field of bioenergetics. Also, it’s
perhaps worth noting that they have now ‘discovered’ electric bacteria that eat, breathe and excrete electricity -Geobacter and Shewanella are typical examples. They can’t figure out how microorganisms are formed and believe it’s down to a bioelectric template or blueprint of some sort that encodes patterns. We are now moving away from mainstream biology, germ theory and virus theory. The sooner they are dumped we might get somewhere!

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 21, 2021 6:55 PM
Reply to  -CO

The answer can be found in the field of bioenergetics

Please elaborate

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 7:37 PM
Reply to  -CO

Read the stuff on the experiments conducted by Vlail Kasnacheyev for starters. They are on the net and demonstrate that cellular disease can be induced electromagnetically at a distance also referred to as the cytopathogenic effect.

Annette
Annette
Jul 22, 2021 1:22 AM
Reply to  -CO

-CO another question. Why are people, even when they know what is happening is nonsense, saying that many caught some strange respiratory disease since 2020? Is this psychological, i.e. each year many do, but because it never was focused on, no one thought they had anything strange before? Or is something truly happening since 2020 (non-viral, but something, which does not kill, but is new?). Also many of these people are away from 5G regions. Evidently overuse of wireless devices since 2020 could be a cause of something become therefore more widespread, whatever G. Ive asked couple of researchers who know there is no virus identified, but they could not answer my question satisfactorily, one tending to agree it could be psychological suggestion.

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 7:36 PM
Reply to  Annette

Annette, wrt your initial question firstly, there are now many weird and wonderful respiratory illnesses that have nothing to do with viruses or bacteria although such entities usually get the blame.

Deleterious complex changes take place periodically in the chemistry of our atmosphere due to the interplay of solar and cosmic forms of radiation that generate an influx of positive ions, other charged particulates, free radicals, ozone and other noxious gases combined with disturbances in the earth’s magnetic field and man-made forms of electropollution.

Some people are susceptible to such changes that can affect not only the respiratory tissues and organs but also the nervous system and other tissues and organ if they have the pre-existing dispositional factors for that type of disease. Five different forms of influenza have been noted for example, I.e. The febrile type, the respiratory type, the malignant type, the gastrointestinal type and the nervous type! Nothing to do with viruses.

But what those factors are, will always depend on the particular circumstances of each individual affected, including their internal and external conditions.

You are correct the mind and emotional factors can play a crucial part in disease causation. What affects the soma also affects the psyche and vice versa!

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 7:54 PM
Reply to  Annette

Annette, there’s also a scientific paper 📄 you might be interested in reading by Dr Alexei Dmitriev entitled: Planetophysical State of the Earth and Life” I read it in the 1990s but it’s quite enlightening as to what’s going on in our solar system.

Annette
Annette
Jul 22, 2021 11:37 PM
Reply to  -CO

-Co, thanks a million for taking the time to reply. I will certainly read the article you have suggested. Indeed, the terrestrial magnetic field. Every 11 years or so, there’s supposed to be some magnetic storm and some random changes for a few weeks or months, this increases every form of morbidity and mortality. It would be interesting to find out if this 11 year anomaly happened in 2020. Do you know anything about this? Ill also ask Dimitris Panagopoulos, the physicist who has worked on manmade radiation.

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 4:20 PM
Reply to  Annette

Hope Simpson linked epidemic and pandemic influenza with variations in solar activity, quite correctly in my view.

However, he regarded the variations in solar radiation as a seasonal “stimulus” for the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic. So far so good.

Unfortunately, HS fell foul to virus theory and believed that it was a trigger to activate the model A(H1N1) flu virus which has never been isolated or been proven to exist as a natural physically existing progenitor virus to this day.
There’s more to it than that regarding the composition and effects of solar radiation and the nature of photons that contradicts the mainstream position but I’ll leave it at that.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2021 12:55 PM
Reply to  -CO

An ioniser may help during times of high positive ions, apart from reducing indoor fine dust.

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 4:36 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Yes mgeo, I used to know a few people who have used them who suffered from asthma and dust allergies and appeared to have obtained some benefit from their use.

Annette
Annette
Jul 22, 2021 11:43 PM
Reply to  Annette

By the way, -Co, what do you think of this worldwide protest on Sat. 24th? On the whole, protests I think do not work (eg 2003 against Iraq war in London, more than 2 million, but UK still went to war). But because its worldwide, in your opinion, do you think this is different than just a national protest?

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 4:00 PM
Reply to  Annette

It’s only different in the sense that protests are now becoming more worldwide. They do send a message to those in power but that’s not enough to change their agenda for total world 🌍 domination and control.

An organized strategy using the Common Law is essential with the full support of the majority of people to remove the perpetrators of the scamdemic from office and making sure they are not replaced by another lot of traitors and collaborators.

Annette
Annette
Jul 23, 2021 6:13 PM
Reply to  -CO

Yes -Co, you’re right. I think its sending a message and holding a bit back those in power, but not sufficiently to change anything. Will you be participating tomorrow (24th). I might have were I in another country, but I am very worried about the leadership of the French “resistance” for various reasons. They have totally excluded anyone who says the virus has never been identified. Its actually such a complete exclusion that its baffling.

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 7:34 PM
Reply to  Annette

Since concrete physical proof of a progenitor virus is absolutely essential upon which everything else wrt the scamdemic rests how can there ever be an effectively organized “French Resistance”? The fraudsters using the fictitious virus and its imaginary ‘variants’ will keep on using them along with what they are still calling ‘vaccines ‘ as silent weapons in the onward march to totalitarian control.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 22, 2021 7:01 AM
Reply to  -CO

Can we stick to the original experiment please, and without sending me off on another days long research mission, explain why 3 guinea pic per month, for 4 years, would get TB “induced electromagnetically” while the control group NOT be effected?

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 11:45 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

You want me to do all your homework for you, I’ve given you some pointers for you to figure it out. There are also pre- clinical dispositional factors to take into account that are involved in TB or in any other disease, that’s all I’m going to tell you so you’ll have to figure the rest out for yourself. No disrespect or ill will toward you or your question intended.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 22, 2021 1:10 PM
Reply to  -CO

I’m 2 books, one long video seminar, multiple long videos, and lots of reading of people who take a similar positions to you, into what is increasingly looking like a rabbit hole into Pseudoscience.

If you can’t answer the question in a few paragraphs in your own words, I can only assume you are arm waving away the experiment with no real alternative logical conclusion than that posited by the experiment.

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 6:57 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

You have raised a question and expect me to answer it without providing the full scientific details i.e. The names of the scientists, the title of the paper, who published it and who funded it. So, on the basis of the information you provided any answer would be speculative, that’s not a get out it’s a fact.

Did you read about the Kasnacheyev experiments and bioenergetics -neither of which are pseudo scientific, and neither are the predispositional factors of the animals in the experiment that are never mentioned in the information that you provided. Also, Who were the people who take “similar positions” to me when you don’t really know what my position is??? Be careful about jumping to conclusions wrt “pseudoscience” the term is usually applied to anything that challenges mainstream dogma !

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 23, 2021 7:28 AM
Reply to  -CO

you can’t click a link?

yet you expect me to read whole books…. classic.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 23, 2021 8:15 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

Here you go
Infectiousness of Air from a Tuberculosis Ward: Ultraviolet Irradiation of Infected Air: Comparative Infectiousness of Different PatientsR. L. Riley, C. C. Mills, F. O’Grady, L. U. Sultan, F. Wittstadt, D. N. ShivpuriApr
1962 American Review of Respiratory DiseaseTuberculosis Disseminators:
A Study of the Variability of Aerial Infectivity of Tuberculous PatientsL. Sultan, W. Nyka, C. Mills, F. O’Grady, W. Wells, R. L. RileySep 1960 American Review of Respiratory Disease

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 23, 2021 8:19 AM
Reply to  -CO

OK I don’t know what your position is, exactly, but you write enough on these pages to get an incline…

And it works both ways

You can say you know what I think, maybe you just had the feels that you know the method of infection is not what I think.

Instead of bloviating you could just clicked a link and search scholar for the ref.

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

In the main paper you quoted the emphasis was on the “infectousness of the air of a TB ward”. Guinea pigs were used to demonstrate infection by ward air and not by “cross infection between each other or by unsuspected mechanisms”.

However, both papers attempt to establish some form of airborne TB microscopic droplet infection as the cause of the disease. Control experiments do not appear to have been carried out in similar conditions where TB patients were absent.

Here’s a tentative explanation only.

The molecules and ions etc transmitted in the air from the ward of diseased patients are charge carriers they carry the pattern of the disease in their potentials to the susceptible animals. This does not imply that the TB bacteria are the actual cause of TB.

The influx molecular potentials from the air carrying the TB disease pattern are absorbed into the animals cells which gradually charge up and change their resident potential structure from ‘susceptible’ to ‘diseased’.

If an animal or human has no pre-determined susceptibility it is unlikely to come down with TB. Why? Because with susceptibility, the cells, tissues and organ properties and conditions will already differ in some respect in their biopotentials, tissue and organ characteristics etc prior to the influx of potentials carrying the charge pattern of the disease.

The influx of potentials received from the TB ward thus have internal structures that superpose, mix and diffuse with those of the animals cells and the TB disease pattern spreads in the cells of the susceptible Guinea pigs. The control group will not be affected because it has been zapped by blackbody radiation in the UV-C range which is also inimical to the life of the poor Guinea pigs.

Hope this suffices and you don’t end up writing it off as pseudoscience because the concepts on which is based derive from quantum theory and bioenergetics.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 23, 2021 5:23 PM
Reply to  -CO

Hope this suffices and you don’t end up writing it off as pseudoscience
because the concepts on which is based derive from quantum theory and
bioenergetics.

So this is just conceptual? or will you be providing the full scientific details i.e. The names of the scientists,
the title of the paper, who published it and who funded it?

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 7:07 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

You are really hard work ImpObs!
As far as mainstream scientific references are concerned –
there are none, what did you expect -it’s just a tentative alternative theoretical explanation based on some experimental work conducted by Kasnacheyev, and others. I had hoped that I had already made that clear to you.

That’s why I asked you to figure out an explanation yourself from the stuff I referred to initially. You won’t find many references to this in mainstream science at all because this type of work doesn’t go down well with their pet theories and dogma. I think you already knew that and are now just out to take the piss out of an alternative explanation. I could be wrong, and hope that’s not the case.

All sciences deploy theoretical concepts by the way and the objects and phenomena which they specify including experiments and instruments are entirely dependent on theory. Yes it is “conceptual” so what?

The concepts are just a theoretical means of specifying the objects and phenomena studied or investigated and are neither a privileged source of deduction or are reducible to the objects and phenomena in question. A theory is either valid or it is not. If it is invalid or incoherent you have to demonstrate the fact and explain why.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 23, 2021 8:11 PM
Reply to  -CO

Thanks.

A theory is either valid or it is not. If it is invalid or incoherent you have to demonstrate the fact and explain why.

Exactly, the theory of airborne transmission was posited, and an experiment proved the theory.

The experiments on your alternative theory, which is infact still only a hypothesis, don’t seem to have been be carried out. A hypothesis is an assumption made before any research has been completed for the sake of testing. A theory on the other hand is a principle set to explain phenomena already supported by data.

You might want to try sounding a little less pompus and sure of your position when presenting your hypothesis, otherwise it’s easy to assume you are presenting it as fact, as I did, my bad.

It may ba a valid hypothesis, it maybe pseudoscience, we’re never likely to know for sure until someone does some experiments. But one thing I do know for sure, selling this hypothesis as fact, or using this hypothesis (assumption) as an alternative to counter a theory, is pseudoscience, by definition, since it lacks prediction, testing and questioning.

-CO
-CO
Jul 23, 2021 10:35 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

You don’t appear to comprehend that a theory is not a ‘hypothesis’ it’s an explanation of the objects, phenomena and the connections that may obtain between them that are specified within it.

The theory that was posited by you as proof of airborne transmission was not proven by experiment because there were no control experiments conducted to prove that it was solely the TB bacteria in the air and nothing else that caused the disease.

Nothing was successfully undertaken to exclude all other causal factors and they appeared to be simply ignored -and no account or any effort was made to determine any potential predispositional factors or susceptibility to the disease on the part of the animals used.

Are you suggesting that the theory that I proposed is simply a hypothesis having already explained the sources of the experimental work by Kasnacheyev and bioenergetics on which it was based.

Hypothesis testing a la Karl Popper I.e. testing hypotheses against the facts or ‘data’ of observation I.e. Independent of theory is not scientific is it, because there are no ‘facts’ or ‘data’ independent of the theories in which they are specified including hypotheses. Without the concepts within the theory you would not be able to identify what you were observing, studying or experimenting on would you?

In the sciences there are no extra-theoretical guarantees that can vouchsafe knowledge. A theory by the way is a fact and so is a hypothesis within a theory, predictions are made within a theoretical framework as are testing and posing questions.

A hypothesis doesn’t “counter a theory” only another alternative theory can do that!

Theories may also stand or fall on the basis of their strength of argument where experiments or tests are not always possible or repeatable otherwise there’d be no quantum physics, astrophysics or quantum theory and mechanics.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 24, 2021 7:16 AM
Reply to  -CO

Impobs explained to you the difference between a hypothesis and a theory. Why are you still confused about that?

-CO
-CO
Jul 24, 2021 11:14 AM

Sophie, the confusion arises because of the context in which the term ‘hypothesis ‘ is used. I’m using the term and interpreting it in a THEORETICAL context whereas ImpObs is using it in an empirical context independently of a theory. ImpObs appears to be hostile to my theory and refers to it as a hypothesis and context is ignored after having explained the meaning of theory in scientific practice.

Hypo means under, thesis = a proposition that is maintained by argument but within a THEORETICAL context or an Empirical context. ImpObs quite rightly from an empiricist position regards my theoretical use of the term wrong, but nevertheless a hypotheses can stand under and be formulated within theories and that is a fact otherwise a science would never make progress. In a genuine science there are no so-called called ‘facts’ independent of the theories in which they are specified. You can’t step outside of your theory (knowledge, hypothesis or whatever) into the real to see if they are really there can you?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 24, 2021 1:45 PM
Reply to  -CO

Oh for gods sake just admit you don’t understand the scientific terminology and stop this cringeworthy attempt to save face. Here –

https://www.masterclass.com/articles/theory-vs-hypothesis-basics-of-the-scientific-method#what-is-a-hypothesis

A hypothesis is a guess or prediction made before any data is acquired to verify or disprove it. A hypothesis becomes a theory when data is acquired to support it.

Ok? Now move on.

-CO
-CO
Jul 24, 2021 2:17 PM

Is that what you really believe?

You obviously don’t understand the use of the term in the different contexts specified I.e. In theory and in empiricism. In a theoretical context a hypothesis is a theoretical statement. Nothing to with a “cringewothy attempt to save face” the reference you gave refers to a hypothesis which starts with observation (which is to a certain extent theoretical otherwise you wouldn’t have any concept to determine what you were looking at). Furthermore, I find your comment offensive having dismissed my arguments tout court.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 24, 2021 4:27 PM
Reply to  -CO

The reference you were given is to the standard scientific definition of ‘hypothesis’ versus ‘theory’ as accepted everywhere. Just give up the empty bluster, learn and move on.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 24, 2021 8:17 AM
Reply to  -CO

A hypothesis doesn’t “counter a theory” only another alternative theory can do that!

Peddling hypothesis as facts against captured mainstream science being used to bolster a totalitarian agenda is not helpful, it has the same effect ‘flat earth’ dogma has on the credibility of those who expose truth to power.

And yet you continue to peddle your hypothesis as fact to counter a theory. And you question my comprehension whilist failing to see this as a problem.

Doctor, heal thy self.

-CO
-CO
Jul 24, 2021 11:36 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

The problem lies with your empirical view of scientific practice that’s the real problem, so we must agree to differ in that score.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 25, 2021 9:44 AM
Reply to  -CO

my verifiable view of scientific practice is the problem?

LOL course it is.

-CO
-CO
Jul 25, 2021 8:34 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

In the domain of the Imaginary, and you said it – your own “verifiable VIEW of scientific practice” could spark off another debate as to what precisely that “verifiable VIEW” really is.

But I won’t go there as I got into trouble over the use and meaning of that dreadful word “hypothesis”. Since then all my posts on another thread are now waiting spam checks which has never happened before apart from the odd one now and then – coincidence perhaps.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 26, 2021 11:02 AM
Reply to  -CO

en gaurd! your semantic sword was parried by the definition up thread 🙂

FWIW my ‘disapeared from the spam bin’ post count is now up to 5, and ~30% of my posts go via the spam bin, there seems no common denominator tbh, just a feature of a less than ideal moderation system.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2021 9:23 AM
Reply to  -CO

Also see morphogenetic fields/resonance, ref. A New Science of Life by Prof. Rupert Sheldrake, 1981.

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Thanks, mgeo I have studied some of Rupert’s work in the past but some of his concepts remain problematic.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 24, 2021 7:17 AM
Reply to  -CO

In what way?

-CO
-CO
Jul 24, 2021 11:54 AM

Sheldrake for example, describes morphic fields as ‘fields of information ” and that they are neither a type of matter or energy and are only detectable by their effects on material systems. But, if the fields were completely immaterial, it would be difficult to see how they could have an effect on the material world. He also believes that morphic resonance involves the transfer of information but not energy, but it’s also difficult to see how the one can take place without the other.

-CO
-CO
Jul 24, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  -CO

See also ” A conversation between Dr Rupert Sheldrake, Dora Kunz, Dr Renee Weber and Will Ross ” it sheds more light on Dr Sheldrakes work from another different perspective. I think he’s on the right track wrt the Akasha

@lienChrist
@lienChrist
Jul 21, 2021 5:03 PM

One thing is absolutely certain.
The days of the politicians are over.
They have done too well their job of being destructive, violent.
They have come to a point where humanity has to decide either to die remaining with the politicians, to commit a global suicide, or to throw out the politicians and save humanity, civilization, culture, life.
Nothing is favorable to the politician, and as each day passes their death comes closer.
They themselves are responsible.
And what power do politicians have?
All the power that they have we have given to them.
We can take it back.
It is not their power, it is our power.
We just have to find a way to take it back, because giving is very easy, taking is a little difficult.
They will not be so simple and innocent when you take the power back as they were when they were asking it from you.
It is our power, but they will go on having it if the unconscious mob remains there to give it to them, the NPC mob can be convinced about anything.
If the whole intelligentsia of the world fully understands and supports the need of the people’s own great reset, to finally remove all politicians from power, it will then not be very difficult to convince the generals of the world to also move away from the politicians.
To no longer support them.
We have to consciously change the decisive power and controlling factor, that will then change the very foundation.
It looks utopian.
Who is going to do it?
How is it going to happen?
Hence the question, how are we going to make it a reality?
Because of these governments, people have not been intelligent, they have always looked up to the government, felt that the government is going to do everything for them.
All responsibilities are thrown on the government.
When there is no government and you feel for the first time that you are responsible, whatever you do, there is nobody you can throw your responsibility upon, that triggers your intelligence.
I know it seems an impossible dream to have no governments in the world, but if you know moments of silence, peace, intelligence, it does not seem so impossible.
If you ask me, to me it seems to be very simple and very practical.
Governments have been only an organized criminal nuisance, nothing else.
Democracy has not succeeded, it has failed utterly.
We have to find a new alternative.
A context has to be created, so thousands of years of mental slavery can be destroyed.
A certain discipline and awareness has to be created.
People have to be forced to see certain things because they won’t see those things if they are left on their own.
It is impossible in this so-called democratic set-up to bring people to their senses.
I don’t think that with governments disappearing there will be chaos, no.
With governments disappearing there will arise intelligence, understanding.
Direct democracy means you don’t choose any representatives, because how can a person represent millions of people?
It is impossible.
Who can represent me?
Except myself, nobody can represent me.
And when somebody represents millions of people, certainly they are not representing anybody except themselves.
You are being befooled.
Indirect democracy is simply a deception.
And the fact is, we live under indirect democracy, which is almost no democracy at all.
You choose a person for four years to be your prime minister.
Now, for four years what guarantee do you have that this person is not going to go nuts?
Most probably Boris Johnson was already totally nuts before he even entered the office, otherwise why should he bother to become prime minister of the country.
Can’t he find anything better to do?
Indirect democracy is just a trick.
You think you are choosing your representative, do you know his mind?
Have you ever thought whether your mind and his mind are similar?
And with how many minds can he be similar?
Political parties are only needed in an indirect democracy.
In a direct democracy everybody has their own idea and they are independent, able to represent their idea, to vote for themselves, they can propose their idea, using internet and blockchain technology, and explain their idea to the people.
Perhaps they can convince the people, perhaps the people will be even ready to support them, but everybody is free.
Direct democracy is the only true democracy.
Whenever there is any problem to be discussed, all the citizens can gather through internet forums where they can vote for each single issue directly.
They can vote for or against, this is the way it can be done.
That is direct and, in fact, democratic.
And everybody knows there is no question of somebody cheating you using blockchain, some creepy old Joe Biden Hussein creating a power grab, it is easy, it is directly recorded, no problem.
It has the potential of being a fully intelligent system, but it has to be fully supported by an honest a fair global community.
As Bitcoin has been globally nurtured.
It needs tremendous help.
The country has to be transformed into a new context.
Just the old country having indirect democracy make freedom, truth and fairness impossible.
Bernard Shaw went once on invitation to America.
In the first meeting he was addressing the people who had invited him, very well known people, respectable people, rich people, and he said, “Looking at you I can almost take it for granted that fifty percent of the people in America are idiots.”
Of course the whole gathering was outraged, “We are here to welcome you, we have invited you, you are our guest, this is not the way to start!”
There was silence, but great anger in people’s eyes.
Bernard Shaw said, “Forgive me, I just said the opposite of what I was going to say.”
People relaxed.
He said, “I was going to say that fifty percent of people in America are very intelligent, but now I have to change my statement.
That was my first impression.
And this is my last impression, it is final, one hundred percent of the people are idiots.”
Bernard Shaw had a certain insight into our so-called sane humanity.

@lienChrist
@lienChrist
Jul 21, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  @lienChrist

Part Two

Your whole culture has given you only one thing as a heritage, and that is a lunatic asylum in your head.
They don’t have anything else to give you.
Ignore the lunatic asylum.
Western behavioral psychologists(SAGE) pay too much attention to directing the lunatic asylum, and that is only giving food to it as a means to your total enslavement.
These are such powerful and potent criminal forces but you need not pay any attention to these insane lunatics who think they run the lunatic asylum.
Pour all your own nourishment into your joy and into your love and into your silence.
You will not see Sigmund Freud talking about joy or love or silence or peace or blissfulness.
In the whole literature of psychology you will not find these words even mentioned.
They have their own vocabulary, schizophrenia, neurosis, psychosis.
Whenever a psychoanalyst looks at you, they are looking for the lunatic, they are not looking for anything that is sane in you.
They go on bringing more and more up, digging more and more into the lunatic part of your mind.
They make you convinced that you are completely mad.
So just remember one thing, ignore the lunatic asylum that you have created in your head.
Everybody has it, until you take the red pill, so it is nothing special.
Just keep your back towards it.
And poor your whole energy in your joy and love and silence and peace, rediscover your compassion and friendliness.
Freedom is your intrinsic nature.
It is your very nature, you don’t have to attain it.
You don’t have to make any effort for it.
You don’t need even to desire or long for it, it is already there.
You are born free, but you are living in imagined chains.
Those chains you have accepted, and you have accepted them very willingly, very joyously, because those chains you think are made of gold.
Those chains are made from power, prestige, respectability, you think that they are covered with precious stones.
So not only have you accepted them, you go on desiring more and more because you think they are ornaments.
You think they are the very aim of your life, the very meaning and significance.
This is the trouble, freedom is not a problem such that you have to achieve it, the problem is how to get rid of the chains.
And the first thing you have to encounter is to recognize chains as chains not as ornaments, a prison as a prison not as a home, a government as a bondage and not a savior.
And there are a thousand and one chains all around you.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 4:45 PM

Reply to Crimboy, if you are losing faith in this site for its not “offering up any meaningful discussion”. What actually do you consider worthy of meaningful discussion??????

Chimes of Freedom
Chimes of Freedom
Jul 21, 2021 4:38 PM

Telegram group with details of all the worldwide demonstrations this Saturday 24th July 2021

https://t.me/worldwidedemonstration

And the website
https://www.worldwidedemonstration.com

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 21, 2021 3:12 PM

I’ll watch it if Mr Mike says there’s no “novel” coronavirus. If he doesn’t then he’s just a second-level propagandist.

Does he say there’s no virus?

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 3:56 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

You will be lucky to find it. It is being comprehensively deleted from all over the place

This worked a few minutes ago.

https://www.facebook.com/perspectivesonthepandemic/videos/472573067282178/

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 21, 2021 7:38 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Why exactly are you posting a link down here to the same video that’s at the top of the article? 🤷‍♀️

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 8:01 PM

Cos I thought someone might want to see the video, which your Admin colleague posted around 10 hours ago, possibly after he had read my post, stating that the video which was on Facebook had already been deleted. I had already found an alternate one, not on Facebook, that also worked for a short while…Then I was very busy doing something else.

You should read what I write, and also talk to your fellow moderators. I know you work hard. I even gave you an uptick today.

I am trying my best to help. I also used to regulary send you guys £10, until you started deleting nearly everything I wrote.

What’s the matter with you?

Off Guardian is obviously incredibly popular across the world. That is why the video you posted today, got deleted.

Off Guardian, hadn’t done anything wrong, and neither had I.

Don’t you Moderators email each other or phone each other up, when something you have posted doesn’t work?

I know you are only a small team, but even so.

Tony

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 21, 2021 8:33 PM
Reply to  tony_0pmoc

The video hasn’t been deleted. It’s right there. You can see it. And my admin colleague did not say it has been deleted. Please stop telling silly time wasting lies. I just had to scroll through all the comments to check I wasn’t missing something.

Are you the TonyOpmoc another commenter mentioned who used to post on Alternet and claimed to be in the US?Your post times are also consistent with you being in America. Why do you pretend to be in Britain and make up a fake life with all these pointless lies? Why do you ignore our polite requests to refrain from long OT posts? And why did you decide to stalk me?

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 9:41 PM

Yes, but I never claimed to be in the US. I made it completely obvious, that I lived in England. I made some really good Californian friends. We never actually met, or exchanged photos, but we did invite each other to each others homes…

That was about 2005-2010

Blimey. I thought all my posts would have been deleted by now

So that’s what you have been doing today?

I find that rather strange. That was nearly 20 years ago.

Before you were born??

Why such an interest in me?

I am not famous and never wanted to be. It must be a curse worse than death.

Haven’t you wondered why I never mention my wife’s name?

We want to stay Anonymous.

We go out a lot to gigs, and have invited a lot of people round our house for parties…and the grandkids were looking at baby frogs tonight.

If you are really interested in my wife, well she has appeared in local media growing food, and then giving it away.

Chill FFS.

We don’t mean any harm, and I haven’t a clue who you are, and I don’t care.

You make me laugh.

Tony

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 21, 2021 10:39 PM
Reply to  tony_0pmoc

Well at the end of the day we all need to laugh. However, you have been politely requested not to post too much OT stuff. Have a nice evening, A2

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 21, 2021 11:36 PM
Reply to  tony_0pmoc

You stalked me and posted the results right here on this website numerous times – but now you have the nerve to claim you don’t have a clue who I am and don’t care?

You are obviously incapable of an honest response, a total fantasist and possibly genuinely unwell. I’m not going to engage with you any more

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 22, 2021 1:31 AM

I never stalked you. I was just wondering why Sophie Green was interested in me. There are loads of Sophie Greens. Maybe one of is you, The Girl who found loads of girls called Sophie Green. I thought that was a really interesting thing to do.

If you were The Sophie Green either with the camera or one of the Girls who were in the photographs, I just knew Sophie Green just would not do one of herself…

But any of you Sophies can photograph me.

I reckon you are the photographer, but I acceptm I could be completely wrong..I just love the one with tickets..That photo is Brilliant.

Have you got yours yet, my wife and I have but I can’t compete with you.

I asked my Ex too

MLS
MLS
Jul 23, 2021 3:48 PM
Reply to  tony_0pmoc

Well you’re a liar. I remember you on Alternet also and on Craig Murray. You had a totally different posting style and biography. From my recall on Alternet you said you were in the US and academia. Got the impression you were or had been a uni lecturer, quite refined and educated. Maybe retired and living in a small town.

On Craig Murray you were much more normal from what I saw. I don’t recall long posts about your family. Frankly I don’t remember you doing that here when you first arrived. It’s only recently you have started this “nowt so queer as folk” northern schtick. Your attitude to a female admin is creepy

Jane
Jane
Jul 22, 2021 4:37 AM

Tony Opmoc seems to show up all over the place on various blogs, sometimes droning on about his wife and grand children, or his bike trips or compost piles, etc., totally off-topic.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 22, 2021 12:13 PM
Reply to  Jane

Yeah and his persona/location/alleged family details change. I am 90% sure he lives in the US and his current life story is a fantasy or a lie. He definitely has unhealthy attitudes to women. I am not going to engage with him directly any more.

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 8:18 PM

Cos I thought someone might want to see the video, which your Admin colleague posted around 10 hours ago, possibly after he had read my post, stating that the video which was on Facebook had already been deleted. I had already found an alternate one, not on Facebook, that also worked for a short while…Then I was very busy doing something else.

You should read what I write, and also talk to your fellow moderators. I know you work hard. I even gave you an uptick today.

I am trying my best to help. I also used to regulary send you guys £10, until you started deleting nearly everything I wrote.

What’s the matter with you?

Off Guardian is obviously incredibly popular across the world. That is why the video you posted today, got deleted.

Off Guardian, hadn’t done anything wrong, and neither had I.

Don’t you Moderators email each other or phone each other up, when something you have posted doesn’t work?

I know you are only a small team, but even so.

I am not blaming you Sophie. You are probably working Nightshits and have been asleep all day.

Did it never occur to you that someone completely unconnected to Off-Guardian who had some real influence over Facebook, got the video reinstated as a result of reading my post?

Tony

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 21, 2021 8:51 PM
Reply to  tony_0pmoc

Ok, this post is a duplicate of your previous one except you have added the part in bold at the bottom presumably because you realised the vid has not been taken down.

To answer your question – no It didn’t occur to me that someone with ‘real influence’ on Facebook is deleting or reinstating content based on reading your posts, and I don’t think it should occur to you either.

Jane
Jane
Jul 22, 2021 4:39 AM

He’s an eccentric and that is his excuse for the constant nonsensical posts.

Ort
Ort
Jul 22, 2021 7:07 PM
Reply to  Jane

Well, it’s an embarrassment to all of us respectable eccentrics who judiciously limit our nonsensical posts! 😉

paul_m
paul_m
Jul 21, 2021 4:21 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

petra,
i am beginning to worry about you.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 22, 2021 2:33 AM
Reply to  paul_m

Why, Paul? It took me 4 years of dedicated study to realise the pivotal truth of 9/11, that death and injury were staged, and from that epiphanous awakening I learnt so much about propaganda. It’s funny, I wasn’t close to my father whose catch cries when I was growing up were, “It was the CIA,” whenever a military coup or suchlike occurred and “Propaganda!”. I thought he may well have been correct in his claims but didn’t pay much attention. I only woke up to 9/11 and then numerous other lies a decade after his death and I’m sorry I never had the chance to discuss these things with him because, unlike my mother, who I thought would be more onboard but has proved not to be, I know he totally would have been and would laugh at the ridiculousness of certain things as I do.

This psyop is of the type Problem > Reaction > Solution.

The manufactured problem comes first and that always needs to be recognised because without the manufactured problem ALL Reaction and Solution are completely swept away, they are utterly irrelevant and need no debate. Ignoring the manufactured Problem and focusing on Reaction and Solution is a form of propaganda and we see it Frontline Doctors – I mean, seriously, they give it away with their title. They do have a chortle, don’t they? Which isn’t to say that some Frontline Doctors might be genuine because they’re persuaded by the scientific fraud put forward for the reality of the virus and only believe that the Reaction and Solution are wrong but that organisation has been set up as a front, no doubt about it … and it was predictable from the outset.

We know they will have separate propaganda streams targeted to those who will believe them and those who won’t – they did it for 9/11, the post-9/11 anthrax attacks and certain other psyops. It’s all predictable, all part of the MO – doesn’t apply to Sandy Hook, the Manchester bombing and psyops of that ilk – with those there’s only the mainstream propaganda but for certain types of psyops, all the big ones especially, you have that major dual stream with lots of substreams to confuse, misdirect and distract, eg, Judy Mikovits and her Wuhan lab drivel.

So no one has answered my simple question: does Mr Mike recognise no “novel” virus? I tend to infer he doesn’t but have yet to get a clear answer.

Geo M
Geo M
Jul 23, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

He does obviously support the ‘science’, he’s one of those who present the case that there is a ‘covid’ disease out there but has been exagerated and the response blown out of proportion. Which is position inside the mainstream narrative but amenable to the slightly skeptical. Just like the UK column who are the opposition to the system within the system, more like the ‘opposition’ in the political party system.
I wouldn’t say it’s ‘controlled’ per se but totally inoffensive to the ones in power.

Roberto
Roberto
Jul 24, 2021 12:10 AM
Reply to  paul_m

Everything is a psyop, or controlled opposition, and there are no viruses and certainly no novel viruses, and nobody died or was injured on 9/11 or in any other major crisis/event/bombing/shooting/[fill in blank here] because the victims are all paid crisis-actors in makeup. I think that wraps it up.
This is actually the (in)famous ‘flaxgirl’ from days gone by, renamed, who just won’t stop.

Crimbotoy
Crimbotoy
Jul 21, 2021 4:25 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

This is where we are at now. If they do not state this clear and obviosu fact then they cannot be truted in my opinion.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 22, 2021 2:38 AM
Reply to  Crimbotoy

Exactly. I know genuine medical professionals who believe in the virus and focus on the Reaction and Solution parts of the psyop but we KNOW there are propagandists who pretend they think the virus is real and Mr Mike would KNOW that the virus is not real, he would know for sure, so if he doesn’t recognise that fact, he’s a deliberate propagandist.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 22, 2021 4:09 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Don’t know what’s happened but I can tell from my notification emails that -CO and Sophie have replied to this comment and their comments have disappeared so I will post their comments and put my comments on their comments:

-CO
Petra, his words at the beginning of the video ” the piece of dead virus that they were having that human cells manufacture through these gene based vaccines “… He doesn’t say that there is no virus because a bit later he refers to “this Virus”! It’s pure and unadulterated bullshit.

Where’s your scientific proof Dr Yeadon for the whole ‘dead’ virus genome and it’s alleged ‘spike proteins ‘ – a virus that according to virology was never alive or proven to be so in the first place. Only a piece of a fictitious ‘dead’ undetermined virus that could not have been an ingredient of the mRNA vaccines for Covid-19 how could it without a real whole virus as the gold standard for comparison ???????????

Thank you, -CO. OK, so we know he’s a second-level propagandist and I see he’s published by Frontline Doctors, an obvious targeted-to-the-disbelievers-of-the-mainstream-narrative propaganda group – for more see my comment below.
https://muckrack.com/americas-frontline-doctors/articles

Sophie
Maybe he just has a different opinion.

Sophie, the non-existence of the virus is not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of fact and I strongly believe that Mr Mike would know the fact of no “novel” virus. When someone comes out as a whistleblower who previously worked for the supposed “enemy”, unless they say all the right things I treat them as still working for the enemy and being a fake whistleblower – I mean the strategy of fake whistleblowers totally makes sense, doesn’t it? – it’s just one more layer of smoke’n’mirrors and we see quite a few fake whistleblowers for 9/11 and for other things. If I’m proved wrong on this I’ll change my mind about how real whistleblowers can be determined but until then that’s my attitude.

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 1:02 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

No you ain’t wrong Sophie. Yeadon for example, puts out a mixture of information and subtle disinformation when he refers to “this virus” yet this virus which is not a virus is just a ” piece of dead virus” which according to virology (a) was never alive (because a virus is NOT a living organism) in order to be able to ‘die’ in the first place and (b) “the virus” has never been proven in scientific practice to this day because virus theory like germ theory is incoherent. Which means the theories cannot and do not work out in practice.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 22, 2021 6:17 PM
Reply to  -CO

Petra’s name isn’t Sophie

-CO
-CO
Jul 22, 2021 8:19 PM

Apologies Sophie the reply was meant for your comment to Petra!

Nyal neilson
Nyal neilson
Jul 30, 2021 2:58 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Unfortunately, I’m beginning to question Mike Yeadon’s motives. On the one hand he seems to be saying all the right things about the unknown dangers of mrna technologies and the absurdity of forcing the entire population to undergo treatment for something that has a 99+% survival rate but on the other hand he is confirming the existence of a ‘very big’ virus.

I may be reading too much into this, but there are some inconsistencies that are worth questioning.

42:13 ” I ask people just to take a deep breath and recognise that this a big virus – it consists of what’s called amino acids, ten thousands of them in string and then they’re all folded up to form a characteristic shape”

43:30 (about variants) “if you go and look at the one that is most different from the one that was originally sequenced in Wuhan about 16 months ago, you will find…..”
This is a classic distraction strategy whereby he makes a seemingly powerful point about the non-existence of variants, but as he does this, in passing, he reinforces the mainstream narrative of a sequenced pathogen in Wuhan.

31:48 “If the vaccines are effective, and certainly the trial purport to show that, and I’m not in a positions to say that that’s not true…..”
Yeadon often talks about the dangers of mrna vaccines – why does he say they’re effective? It’s not credible for him to infer that he hasn’t read the trial data and formed an opinion.

Kalen
Kalen
Jul 21, 2021 3:12 PM

Some good news and bad news.

Bloomberg TV admitted that people who made conscious decision to refuse COVID jab after they educated themselves about COVID vaccines are lost to vaccination campaign as they will never be vaccinated voluntarily.

and here comes absurd.

Bloomberg TV suggested that those who can still be persuaded and still are hesitant to get a jab must be better “educated” about COVID vaccines.

it all makes weird sense uneducated are hesitant but educated are no longer hesitant to make up their own minds, they say fuck off to jabbing.

Did they just give up on Covid Vax skeptics? No way. But only realized that they have to use plan B: violence as coercion and intimidation failed.

Bloomberg is funding JHU biosurveillance center that is collating and compiling all the useless official COVID statistics.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 21, 2021 3:00 PM

I don’t know if this is on topic or off topic but it sure as hell tells a story.

Here in Aus, the state of NSW (one of three such panicked authorities) “tested” more than 83,700 odd people yesterday for this absolute bullshit Convid shitfuckery.

Out of the above number of those willing to undertake the fake and much discredited test, they unearthed a whopping 110 “cases”.

Statistically, that represents 0.131772823652% infected walking amongst the people in the state of NSW.

Those figures are there for public consumption.

So, why the fuck are the dumb-fuck public not consuming them and reaching the same conclusion that I and most every other contributor to this forum have already arrived at?

I mean, if you have a fucking health service that will be “overwhelmed” by a 0.13 increase in patient presentation, then you are guilty of starving said health service of funding in the first place. Which, of course, the corrupt bastards are.

Images of sobbing state premiers and deaths of nonagenarians do not constitute a life-threatening plague, to be met with a life-destroying response, you lying lie sacks of shit.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jul 21, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

Covid is a long planned almighty depopulation scam, which is designed to foist life ending “vaccines” on a dim-witted public. It’s very much the same in most other countries.

grr
grr
Jul 22, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  JohnEss

110 “cases” out of 83,000 – 84,000 sheeple tells me that the PCR isn’t cycled a large number of times.
It is said anything over 25 creates 100% false positives.
So I am confused because if they want to create the illusion of a pandemic they would be cycling PCR at a high rate to produce as many (false) positives as possible.

Ooink
Ooink
Jul 22, 2021 6:41 AM
Reply to  grr

It’s such a fucking joke by now that outrageous lies aren’t even required. Fucking 2 “cases” is enough. A fucking case of tomatoes could be used and these stupendously fucked in the head mask wearing bitches would dive for cover in a nano second bleating about super spreader events. Fuck it all.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 22, 2021 12:33 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Agreed. See my comment above.

Mankind is getting dumber by the day.

Claret
Claret
Jul 22, 2021 12:58 PM
Reply to  Ooink

‘case of tomatoes could be used….’
…..
Excellent. Made my day, thanks.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 22, 2021 12:32 PM
Reply to  grr

Yes. But I don’t think most of the masked have an eye for detail or fact.

Ooink
Ooink
Jul 22, 2021 6:38 AM
Reply to  JohnEss

Because they’re fucking relentless. Their narrative isn’t changing. And the pure fuckfaces who go about like little fucking douchebag bitches in their masks are not changing either. It’s a relentless torrent of pure shit.

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 21, 2021 2:55 PM

Apologies for this comment being so off topic but think a lot of ppl here will be very interested in this suggestion. If u haven’t taken part in the VIA Institute on Character survey, think u’d find it useful doing so. It costs nowt to participate in the survey, at the end they ask some personal questions but ur not obligated to answer them, furthermore results are offered free or as a more detailed, paid version. The free results can be downloaded as a pdf with good info about the meaning of each characteristic.

https://www.viacharacter.org/

As a very positive, full on, ENTP/Renaissance type: https://www.verywellmind.com/the-entp-personality-type-and-characteristics-2795982 i was pretty gobsmacked they assessed my no 1 characteristic as being love, of humanity that is. My other top 5 characteristics n greatest weaknesses are exactly what one would expect from an ENTP. Seriously recommend giving the survey a go.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 21, 2021 4:00 PM
Reply to  Cesca

The result is probably bogus, watch Jordan Peterson on MBTI (or pretty much any psychologist) Psychologists tend to use the OCEAN criteria, few rate the MBTI system. And do you really want to be giving these companies such intimate data in the first place? it’ll all go in your metadata digital profile, if it’s free you are the product!

This guy rates MBTI, he wrote a book expanding on the theories, if you’re into MBTI you’ll learn a lot more from his channel. it’s not something you’re going to learn enough about in a few hours to decide which type you are tho, it gets real deep!

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 21, 2021 4:20 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Same as with SO many other things Impobs, i personally think the MBTI is derided by some, precisely cos it’s so accurate. No intimate data is given, as i said, u can choose whether to shaper personal data or not, it isn’t required.

What ppl 4get is the MBTI acts on a sliding scale, meaning a type can be defined but individuals fulfil the criteria to varying degrees. As an absolutely full-on ENTP/Renaissance Personality type, those labels are a highly accurate expression of me personally, the survey clearly picked up on that too.

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 21, 2021 4:28 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

P.S Forgot to say i have taken many tests using different systems, my results always equate to being a strong ENTP.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 21, 2021 5:33 PM
Reply to  Cesca

I’ve done 5 different ones, including those recomended by the chap I thought I’d linked (no way I posted that clip, site glitch or something) I got 3 different results lol, I find it interesting but I had to put hours into studying it to get the nuances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZselTF4V-w

channel is Cognitive Personality Theory on YT, just incase clint eastwood decides to show up again lol

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 21, 2021 7:13 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

I’m an anthropologist who works for an ethical research company ImpObs, have done a lot of these sort of tests n yeah, definitely the Renaissance Personality Type, which is interchangeable with being an ENTP.

Have u tried this test? https://similarminds.com/rdrive_nfo.html Personally agree with the thinking behind it n that the person who developed it rocks. Click the link at the end of the description to start the test, think it’s a seriously good one.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 21, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  Cesca

Harry (YT guy) gets into function stacking MBTI theory, it just got too deep for me.

I just saw his reply to a comment on that video “Honestly, the truth of type is that there is no type – individual variation is infinite.” lol

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 21, 2021 7:48 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

He’s got a point ImpObs, that’s where the MBTI is good, it has 16 types n like i said, ppl fulfil the criteria to various degrees. Think that’s why they say the paid for test is better, obviously the degree to which the free version is analysed is much lower.

That’s summat else i love about the rdrive test, it offers u a set of results without a label.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 23, 2021 11:39 AM
Reply to  Cesca

that’s the point tho, 16 types of 4 functions each, then how many function stacks? 2 for each 4 functions, of 16 types =

16x4x2x4x16 total combinations?

I dunno, like I said it gets too deep lol

Cesca
Cesca
Jul 21, 2021 7:42 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Lol, just taken the Jung test on Similarminds, think u can guess the result: https://similarminds.com/cgi-bin/pairmbword2.pl

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 2:43 PM

These crazed repropbates are threatening to wreck everyones summer including mine, based on a COVID test that even the US Centre for Disease Control states is “less than useless”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/21/england-may-have-to-reimpose-covid-rules-in-august-scientists-warn

I accept that hospital admissions are almost certain to rise, cos the lunatics have jabbed more than half the population, half to death, exactly as planned, to be blamed on the COVID pandemic, which will probably soon start for real.

Check the early official adverse reactions to the jabs here, and all the diseases and illnesses that are resulting, including dropping dead in vast numbers. None of this is covered by the Mainstream Media or TV, and many thousands of blogs reporting these reactions from the people affected, have been deleted, buried and covered up by social media, google and The UK Government.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/frightening-16th-update-on-adverse-reactions-to-covid-vaccines-released-by-uk-government-mhra/

“We can also confirm that as of the 12th May the total number of blood disorders to have occurred due to receiving one of the Covid vaccines now stands at 11,313, the total number of cardiac disorders now stands at 8,813, the total number of ear disorders now stands at 8,450, and the total number of gastrointestinal disorders now stands at 82,315. But none of these come anywhere near to the total number of nervous system disorders, which includes brain damage, facial paralysis and strokes, which now stand at 171,187. The worrying thing? These are the only numbers that have been reported to the MHRA, estimated by the MHRA to be between 1% – 10% of the real life number.”

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 21, 2021 2:09 PM

This video (allegedly) shows blood platelet reactions to the “vaccine”. Rouleaux formations are clearly present, along with crumpled blood cells. Be sure to have your children and elderly jabbed as soon as possible… >

Video: Breaking Discovery! What COVID Injections Do to Your Blood! Doctor Releases Horrific Findings!
By Dr. Jane Ruby and Stew Peters
Global Research, July 20, 2021
Video: Breaking Discovery! What COVID Injections Do to Your Blood! Doctor Releases Horrific Findings! – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

P.S. Rouleaux formations in blood cells can also be induced via wi-fi and cellular phone broadcast. > https://youtu.be/6v75sKAUFdc?t=920
There are other such facts being ignored.

Honeypot
Honeypot
Jul 21, 2021 1:28 PM

Cinemas in France are capping their capacity at 50, making them accessible to the non-injected. Also Gyms are coming up with inventive solutions to maintain access to the unharmed, involving segregation, which stinks but solves the immediate banning of the uninjected. .

So there is a business resistance to this. It is not as easy to exclude the Juif, sorry I mean the unharmed as they thought.

I really want to wear a Star of David with a syringe on it, symbolising my exclusion from normal life, but I’m not sure how distasteful it is. I think it is OK.

Kate
Kate
Jul 21, 2021 2:26 PM
Reply to  Honeypot

#Shoah was trending on French twitter after macrons announcement, so many feel the same way.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jul 21, 2021 2:44 PM
Reply to  Honeypot

I think we have to be careful given how readily the anti-Semetism card is played.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jul 21, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

…Yeah-Nah… – Sorry, but that ship has sailed, and *That* particular little Jedi Mind Trick just ain’t gonna work no more… – The Zionazi’s overplayed that particular canard so many times and for so many reasons, in defense of their own *Manifest* crimes, that it is now as devoid of meaning from overuse as a wokester’s screaming “Racis'”, or “Sexis'”, or “Transphobe” in your face…

…- And to the Quisling fuck judge in the Houston Methodist Hospital nurses’ lawsuit who ruled against and then had the *Fucking Chutzpah* to actually *Chastise* them for anti-semites, spitting on the graves and memories of all Teh Holocaust(tm) victims, simply for *Daring* to have the uppity temerity to invoke the Nuremberg Code, of all things… – Fuck You, pal and the fucking horse you rode in on!!…

…- If I remember my history a-right, the Nuremberg Code was drafted into international law and subsequently ratified by UN member nations, *Post-Facto* – *After* the (partial and piecemeal) prosecution of the Nazi’s various crimes, including of course, the Holocaust… As such, it was *clearly* intended to guard against the possibility of *Future* recurrences of a Hitler or Mengele, and *NOT* in order to litigate past crimes…

grr
grr
Jul 22, 2021 12:11 AM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

Well yeah, but nah; European Khazarians aren’t semetic.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 21, 2021 4:35 PM
Reply to  Honeypot

How far back does one have to go to find some French cinema worth watching? Three, four, five decades?

Being locked out of their social-engineering and mind-control isn’t much of a loss!

grr
grr
Jul 21, 2021 12:50 PM

I urge all Melburnians to contact the utterly prostituted Prof Tony Blakely and tell him he is a cunt and will be hunted down if he continues his push to give 5 – 12 year olds the poison stab.
And the haggard blonde bitch in NSW that does pressers is now blaming children as ‘spreaders’.

These evil cunts need to be stopped yesterday!!

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jul 21, 2021 1:25 PM
Reply to  grr

Telegraphing ones punches generally is not the best fighting strategy.”

“In the words of Tuco if one going to shoot, shoot….”

Shin
Shin
Jul 21, 2021 1:30 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Thanks Coop, now i have to watch the trilogy again. Looks like i’ll be up till 7am.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 21, 2021 2:20 PM
Reply to  grr

Of course you will be immediately labelled “a terrorist” for threatening a noble pillar of society, and it is you who will be hunted down.
A bonus is that your attempted communication will be censored, its intended recipient will never see it, and you will achieve nothing.

Apart from that, I’m totally with you.
But there has to be a better way…

grr
grr
Jul 21, 2021 12:46 PM

Just in; mother of a sister’s friend. melbourne, Astra Zenica, blood clots, ambulance ride to hospital.
And another friend of hers has had three anaphylactic episode ening in the ICU eact time. She has had food allergies all of he life but the silly cow took the poison stab and now her food allergies are through the roof.

Funny innit, never heard of one person with CV1984, or hospitalised but now daily reports of people that know people with adverse reactions.

Spock
Spock
Jul 21, 2021 5:26 PM
Reply to  grr

My skepticism requires me to be skeptical of all anecdotes – from whichever side.

grr
grr
Jul 22, 2021 12:13 AM
Reply to  Spock

True, but for me it ain’t no anecdote; it’s first hand witness testimony from a verified and trusted source.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2021 9:44 AM
Reply to  grr

Before the jabs,
:- people 25-65 or so contracted “covid” only if they already had major diseases
:- “covid” in younger people was all fake.

Chimes of Freedom
Chimes of Freedom
Jul 21, 2021 12:39 PM

Aside from the planned march in London on 24th July are any marches planned in other UK cities this coming weekend?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 21, 2021 1:23 PM

https://www.facebook.com/worldwidedemonstration/photos/a.177225894409810/198975945568138

I hope you can view this image. You can’t read the details as such, other than to see the towns and cities but they all start at 1 p.m . The ones featured are Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, Bristol, Belfast, Norwich, Hull, Cardiff, Glasgow, Scarborough, Canterbury, Plymouth and ‘Dorset’ (town/place to be confirmed). If you scroll through the Facebook page you should find enlarged versions of each poster.

Chimes of Freedom
Chimes of Freedom
Jul 21, 2021 4:21 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Thanks JudyJ
Unfortunately I won’t engage with Facebook.
Any idea if there is a Telegram Group with the same or similar info?
Cheers

Chimes of Freedom
Chimes of Freedom
Jul 21, 2021 4:37 PM

Ok found it.
Telegram group with details of all the worldwide demonstrations this Saturday 24th July 2021

https://t.me/worldwidedemonstration

And the website
https://www.worldwidedemonstration.com

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jul 21, 2021 6:33 PM

Great. Glad you were able to find it…I wouldn’t have been much help!

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 12:17 PM

Dear friends, at this juncture I think that a brief summary is in order on the alleged existence of pathogenic viruses for those who have recently joined us. Since I first reported that alleged pathogenic viruses have never been effectively isolated and proven to physically exist by science much confusion still exists from the start of the scamdemic regarding such viruses. I have argued many times that such viruses have been modeled in silico by computer on the basis of bits and pieces of nucleic acids, and proteins found in samples obtained from patients. The samples contain all sorts of contaminants including a variety of genetic material from diverse sources in the body including the body’s own genetic material.

However, the ‘models’ produced are entirely speculative theoretical constructs as no complete virus particles have ever been found with their genomes and proteins intact. A computer program is used to fill in the bits that are IMAGINED to be missing from the model by ‘alignment ‘. But since no complete virus particle of SARS-COV-2 with its complete genome and alleged ‘spike proteins ‘ intact have never been found in natural physical reality there is no real physical standard to compare any genetic material or proteins found except with a highly speculative and imaginary ‘ model’ concocted by virologists.

Arby
Arby
Jul 21, 2021 1:06 PM
Reply to  -CO

Yep. And the reason that the liars don’t lie and claim that some particle is the virus is that they would then have to demonstrate that it causes the exact same symptoms (disease) in numerous healthy animals or human volunteers. They would not be able to. They are caught between a rock and a hard place. Of course, cattle don’t notice.

I had a great discussion with someone yesterday. She supervises the farmers’ market that we have in the city park just outside the farm where I work. She stores equipment in our barn when the market’s done. We, meaning security, are the only ones at the farm when the market ends, so we open the gate for them and let them into the barn. I had never met this woman before (that I recall). She got my attention and indicated that she was ready for me to let her in, which I did. She came in with a mask on, which didn’t surprise me, and I let her into the barn. She went back into the park and got some more equipment and returned, this time without a mask on. But when she entered the barn, completely devoid of humans, she put her mask on first. That gave me an opening. I politely asked her why she put a mask on to enter a barn with no people in it. She responded that someone told her that farm staff wanted that. It didn’t make sense to me, so I’m sure she misunderstood. I pointed out to her that none of us, security and animal attendants, at the farm wear masks, anywhere. I do believe that during the day, if the staff are in close quarters with the public, then they put a mask on. (I normally work overnight. The other guard booked off sick so I was covering part of her shift as well as doing my own.) Also, right now, the public is allowed on the farm without masks, as long as they social distance. (The abuse will not end.)

We ended up having a great, lengthy, discussion. She was thrilled to be able to talk to someone who was not a covid crazy. I gave her my contact card (with my blog url on it) and wished her well.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  Arby

I also think that what makes the virus and vaccine issue more com -plicated for most people, is that scientists like Mike Yeadon actually believe that original parent or progenitor viruses physically exist in nature before they can be replicated and reproduced in the special host cells that are postulated and endowed with special attributes that allow an alleged virus to infect them.

Most people are led believe that an alleged virus can ‘infect’ just any old cell, but that is not possible. Both the original parent viruses and the special host cells have no determinate natural physical or biological conditions of existence distinct from themselves which means that their existence is unconditional and therefore inexplicable by science – they are simply ‘exist’ as speculative theoretical postulates and their alleged features are used to build models of viruses that have never been found in the natural physical world of microorganisms.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 2:46 PM
Reply to  -CO

Note: An alleged original progenitor virus CANNOT secure its own conditions of existence i.e. its nucleic acid ,proteins or lipids -the precise means by which those conditions are secured are never specified in an by virology BEFORE the alleged process of viral replication ever takes place in the special host cells postulated. The process only reproduces what’s ALREADY assumed to pre-exist but was never really proven to be there in the first place! It’s a tangled web.

Arby
Arby
Jul 21, 2021 8:19 PM
Reply to  -CO

Virology, and a lot of Rockefeller health care science, is just assertion upon assertion with virtually no science to back it up. In a section of the book (by Dawn Lester and David Parker) about vaccines the authors quote a number of doctors (from earlier times, but so is the belief in and practice of vaccination from earlier times) who refer to vaccination as barbaric and a dangerous superstition. The book doesn’t have an index, so I’ll have to be careful to note every instance of something significant in the book, which will be difficult to do since it’s over 700 pages long. Fortunately, the book is very organized and the table of contents is well laid out.

I keep telling my cousin that my job isn’t safe and that I expect it to go sideways. I don’t look at my aol email every day because it’s not my primary email service but it is the service I use to communicate with G4S, my employer. I use Yandex for that most everything else. I just now looked at my aol email account and I saw a July 19 email from my supervisor about a complaint received from the client (city of Toronto) who I work for indirectly. It’s no doubt related to a pamphlet I left on my table where the guards are based here at the farm. It’s a room, and table, that is used by recreation staff during the day. I never see or work with them. And it may not have been one of them who objected. I don’t know. It could have been an outside supervisor who came by and saw the booklet of posters and didn’t like it. It’s not looking good. I can refrain from leaving pamphlets, and was unsure about this, but don’t ask me to be silent about such evil and criminality.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 1:22 PM
Reply to  -CO

That maybe true, but its pretty much irrelevent. It’s like arguing about whether any planes hit the twin towers on 9/11. The reality is that the buildings were deliberately brought down by controlled demolition.

The reality here is that the jabs are killing and seriously injuring extremely large numbers of people, and have been designed in such a way, that this damage to many essential organs will almost certainly be irreversible, and will be ongoing. Its far worse than smoking or drinking vast amounts of alcohol, though I admit that is not good for you either. If you stop doing it, most people get better quite quickly.

Once you are jabbed, you can’t be unjabbed.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 21, 2021 1:52 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Tony-Opmoc: Good comment. The fact that these “vaccines” are killing and maiming people, is what the conversation needs to focus on. 1st degree murder charges need to be filed against all perpetrators.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 3:09 PM

Yes but the vaccines are based on an unproven virus and its alleged alphabetti spaghetti variants in the name of the Greek alphabet ! Not attacking viruses in theory and in scientific practice on which the idea of vaccines are allegedly based, only adds legitimacy to their continued use. Nevertheless, I agree with the need to focus on the toxicity of the vaccines and bringing the perps to justice which I have focused on in previous threads.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 21, 2021 11:51 PM
Reply to  -CO

Hello -CO: I believe that vaccinations of any kind should be banned, and all manufacturer representatives arrested and charged with 1st degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon. These assjacks need to be put away. Thank you for your many well considered posts.

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 3:41 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Tony, most people are still taking the jabs precisely because they believe the vaccines will protect them from a deadly virus never actually proven by science to physically exist in nature. Yet you say that’s “pretty much irrelevant”. No doubt some people are taking the jabs for other reasons which have little to do with their ‘health’ but nevertheless the whole scamdemic and almost everything that goes with it rests entirely on the alleged unproven virus and its variants. That is, leaving the political, economic and other factors out of it.

Remember, one could also argue that nobody knows for sure what’s actually in these vaccines APART from their declared ingredients, that’s when things become even more complicated just like the viruses which they are supposed to protect you from but don’t. I am well aware that these vaccines are killing people and acknowledge the fact that it’s important to determine what’s really being inflicted on people in the name of SARS-COV-2 and Covid-19.

paul_m
paul_m
Jul 21, 2021 4:54 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

agree with PV Tony,but first we,especially us old fuckers, know friends and family who have taken the jab.i,for one,do not want to be saying,”There i told you so,”when they become ill.what can we do about it? can off-g put a forum together of people like Yeadon,Lanka,Zelenco etc together,to advise us as to what we can possibly do to help our friends and family who’ve been jabbed

-CO
-CO
Jul 21, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  paul_m

See my post near the top of the thread as to a few things that might help.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2021 9:52 AM
Reply to  -CO

The situation (ignorance) is not much better concerning bacteria. They are more complicated compared to the specialised cells in our bodies; yet, we know very little of the workings of even the latter.

Benton
Benton
Jul 21, 2021 12:07 PM

The “vaccine” is already bought and paid for. And they have ordered future “vaccines” which will also be paid for, so current and future profits are secured.

With the mortality rate of this plandemic it has become pretty obvious to all that it is the rate of a not so deadly annual flu.

In Europe about 17000 people have died after being “vaccinated” and in the US it is about 9000 dead and still counting at both places. The death figures are also probably under-reported but it is still 26000 dead human beings. But the “vaccination” program not only continues as nothing have happened, they are also applying more pressure to get everyone “vaccinated”.

So if profit is secured, it’s not for profit

If it is not about mortality rate, it’s not for public health.

If the “vaccine” is killing and damaging humans, it’s not for the common good.

So what is the content/purpose of the syringe they want to sink in the arm of every human being on earth?

Some quotes from one of their dark lords Zbigniew Brzezinski could maybe point us in the right direction of their thought process.
“The society will be dominated by an elite of persons free from traditional values who will have no doubt in fulfilling their objectives by means of purged techniques with which they will influence the behavior of people and will control and watch the society in all details. It will become possible to exert a practically permanent watch on each citizen of the world.”

and

“Speaking of a future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted, “I foresee a time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain.”

If they would try this approach they would do it by deception and present it as something else. Does this ring any bells?

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 1:05 PM
Reply to  Benton

They have already “manipulated the behavior and intellectual functioning” of the brains of most people I know through 24×7 propaganda over 18 months. I strongly suspect the biochemical manipulation of the brain will be further enhanced via the jabs, and I very much doubt that this process can be reverted.

I agree with you that it is not primarily for profit. It is most certainly not for public health. The “vaccine” is most definitely killing and damaging humans, it’s not for the common good, so what is it for???

Well its quite obvious what it is for, and it has been planned at least since the time of the formation of The Club of Rome in 1968. Much of academia has been brainwashed with these objectives ever since.

I am as much a true environmentalist as anyone, and I accept that there are vast problems of pollution, that needs to be resolved, as well as the capitalist system, which effectively force companies to make stuff that is designed to fail, so that you have to trash it and buy another. Most stuff that fails after 2 or 3 years, could easily be designed to last 10 times longer, but companies who produced such products have gone bust. Now all you can buy is junk, use it, dump it and buy some more junk. Its a massive waste of resources.

But instead of such Reform, the Malthusians are now back in Full Control. Whilst they are completely wrong about almost everything, they have gained such a position of power, that they are now implementing Their Final Solution.

People get upset when I mention this, and hardly anyone believes me.

So work it out for yourselves. If the jabs are as effective as many such as Yeadon have already stated to his absolute horror, the results will become pretty obvious fairly soon.

Its all completely unnecassary, as explained in a book I started reading last night, that argues very strongly that the generally perceived problem of population growth, has already largely resolved itself and would have continued to do so, without this planned mass genocide / human slaughter which will soon result in sheer hell on earth for everyone, including the Malthusians, who somehow think they are immune, like the German NAZI party thought.

Didn’t work out too well for them, but unfortunately these slugs have managed to crawl back into power, now on a worldwide basis.

Tony

Benton
Benton
Jul 21, 2021 2:34 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

My questions was rhetorical. This injected technique is obviously harmful to many and they die as a result of it. Those who can handle it survive in this forced trans-humanistic “evolution”.

But the injection doesn’t necessarily has to have only one objective since it could be a combination of brain-control and depopulation. Later on with their dreamed up annually booster “vaccination” it can be given on a highly personal level depending on who they consider as useful.

And of course it could be stopped. We are many and they are few. Otherwise they wouldn’t have had to have deception, propaganda and coercion as their main tools. Having the mindset all is lost is not the right one. I’m never ever going to be “vaccinated” and that never ever stance is quite comforting…

Xavier
Xavier
Jul 21, 2021 9:04 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Final problems require final solutions.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 21, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  Benton

Brzezinski was of course Carter’s NSA.

Mainstream history says (and I’ve read a lot of it) that Carter appointed Brzezinski as a hawk and Cyrus Vance as Secretary of State as the dove so Carter could balance between the two.

It’s manifestly a lie, of course. Carter was a Rockefeller creation as was Brzezinski. Vance was on the CNP and his son is up to his neck in cyber-security (i.e. surveillance). The way in which Carter’s appearance changed while President is extremely peculiar to say the least.

Benton
Benton
Jul 21, 2021 5:34 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Zbigniew Brzezinski belonged to the Black Nobility where bloodlines is the one and only important thing. Many US presidents have been related to European Royal families and neither this is a coincidence. They have been ruling us for millennia and still do so by proxy with our representative (LOL) “democracy”.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 12:02 PM

I think coming here, listening to Mike Yeadon’s excellent presentation and some of the comments, I think the central problem is public ignorance.

I have a degree in chemistry, so I am well qualified to understand what Mike Yeadon is saying having read up on the subject.

I have recently bought textbooks on biochemistry, physiology and immunology. Physiology is the easiest of the three. I’ve come round to consider that while medicine (the core of which is physiology) may be a difficult course to get onto to study formally, it’s actually not all that difficult a subject to understand.

In my opinion, of the three, immunology is perhaps the most difficult, as the immune system is extremely complicated and there is still much that is unknown about how it works.

This is why it is so important to conduct detailed and long terms trials into drug and vaccine efficacy and safety. There is so much potential for things to go wrong, so much potential for unintended consequences.

Of course, the general public have little chance of grasping this, and by general public I also include journalists, all media, politicians (who are often some of the dimmest of the dim), and even public health bureaucrats, many of whom, if they did any relevant research or reading at all, did it many years ago.

Many GPs I suspect know little of the issues regarding immunology and the current research, especially if they qualified in medicine many years ago.

With that said Ros Jones, a retired paediatrician is very concerned about giving these vaccines to children as she believes (rightly) that the potential risks outweight the negligible benefit and even pro-vaxx radio show host and journalist Julia Hartley-Brewer was agreeing with her in conversation yesterday and saying that she will not have her 14 year old daughter vaccinated.

So there is hope.

While I like people such as Sunetra Gupta and support her view and have signed the GB declaration, I remain suspicious of mathematical modellers in general, and “epidemiology” is just the mathematical modelling of disease spread. It does not require any detailed knowledge or understanding of cell biology or immunology of the kind that Mike Yeadon has.

Regarding the UK PM Johnson. He’s a clown. A showman. He knows absolutely nothing about science. He is like a patient in a GP surgery going along with everything that the “experts” are telling him, whether or not he agrees with them. He is in charge, but he is letting himself be led by the nose, and some of these people in SAGE and elsewhere have their own agenda.

AlexVZ
AlexVZ
Jul 21, 2021 12:35 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Great post; however it seems naive to imagine that SAGE, a group set up by the government, are influential enough to lead the PM around ‘by the nose.’ the UK government, and the sinister ‘advisers’ that now surround them are just local executors of a highly coordinated and rehearsed global power grab. Look at the way language and imagery have been used in precisely the same way in practically every Western country, as though it’s all gone through the same PR firm (which I believe it has). The PM, posh fuckwit that he surely is, is merely following instructions I think. A new centre of power has emerged and it is supranational.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 1:05 PM
Reply to  AlexVZ

Thanks, I very much appreciate your comment. I agree that globalism is on the rise and that it carries with it great dangers, but I still don’t agree that it has as yet a central focus.

Too many elected leaders, especially in the west, have little ambition and drive, other than to aggrandise themselves, and that leaves them vulnerable to the machinations of dangerous globalists with strong convictions such as Claus Schwab and Bill Gates.

I don’t believe that this was all planned in advance, as some do, but I do think that it is clear that Gates and Schwab have great influence with Western leaders and that their influence represents a threat to democracy.

It should also be remembered that the so-called Western powers are already and have for many years been intimately linked by NATO and the 5-eyes security apparatus, so their acting in lock-step with each other is only to be expected.

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 21, 2021 1:15 PM
Reply to  John Pretty
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jul 21, 2021 1:33 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Ha! Rockefeller links for validation to Snopes. How the mighty are fallen.

While baseless posts have circulated recently calling the exercise part of a “diabolical plan for world domination,” we see it as further evidence of the importance of scenario planning in helping governments, institutions and others navigate near-term decisions that can have long-term impact.

Corarden
Corarden
Jul 21, 2021 1:40 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

You don’t believe it was planned in advance? Come again?

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 9:47 PM
Reply to  Corarden

No, I don’t. Sorry.

kevin
kevin
Jul 21, 2021 4:42 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Globalism was on the rise fifty years ago. It is now reaching its ultimate expression through Covid and the totalitarian measures imposed under the guise of a response to a global health crisis. Not only are NATO and the Five Eyes in ‘Lock Step’, but virtually the entire world.

Schwab and Gates are significant but they are not the chief planners of this dystopia. The globalist threat to democracy, which was always pseudo-democracy in actuality, is now being fully realized.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 9:51 PM
Reply to  kevin

Schwab and Gates are significant but they are not the chief planners of this dystopia.

Who is then?

Thom1111
Thom1111
Jul 21, 2021 11:49 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

The people at the top of the pyramid go beyond Rothschild-Rockefeller- Schwab-Gates etc. They are out of view.

Jane
Jane
Jul 22, 2021 5:01 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

So who are they?
Who controls Rothschild/Rockefeller?

Or Gates/Wellcome?

Corarden
Corarden
Jul 21, 2021 1:34 PM
Reply to  AlexVZ

Bozo is twice as stupid as most idiots who dig him believe him clever

AlexVZ
AlexVZ
Jul 21, 2021 12:40 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Have you checked out Dr David Martin? Would be fascinated to hear your reaction to his investigations….. 🤯🤯🤯

Kalen
Kalen
Jul 21, 2021 12:45 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

In Medical schools last decades they taught physiology without emphasis of cell nutrients vitamins amino acids etc., especially those not produced by human organism like minerals but vital for healthy physiology.

Likely without knowing molecular microbiology of today, doctors in 1960s knew that re establishing dynamic balance of entire organism is the way of addressing illness namely to create conditions of stability of vital functions and proper operation of immune system tasked specifically to deal with damage to physiological dynamics. Doctors were in charge not to fix illness but to create such conditions in which human organism can cure itself as it is designed to do for 350,000 years before first schooled doctor appeared.

Many forgot that medicine is empirical behavioral science where any microbiological theories must be subjugated to clinical reality. Unfortunately doctors congratulate themselves on treatments surgeries even if patient dies as what they are interested in are guinea pigs to prove their theories they jealously defend like Virology. Real people’s medicine does not need theories to devise effective clinical protocols that work individually for individual patient not statistically as medical theoreticians are interested in like making up theoretical diseases of high blood pressure or cholesterol higher then statistical average.

In old school they thought first anatomy (statics of structure and trauma, injury to anatomy ) then physiology (dynamics of the structure) and pathology as disruption, imbalance of dynamic equilibrium of entire organism also with anatomical consequences. There were in early 1960s 99% fewer recognized clinical diseases than today as most diseases were considered as systemically impacting entire human organism.

That is the enlightened core of holistic individual medicine.

Corarden
Corarden
Jul 21, 2021 1:32 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Forgive me for being frank, but you are being too kind to GPs, who in my humble opinion have proved to be total and complete ignoramus plank tosser halfwit cowardly fucktards, and prominent amongst the enablers of this nightmare, I studied painting in London and know more than these idiots…excluding the honest and decent GPs of course, but then why so few that are speaking out?…ah yes…back to my original insult

AlexVZ
AlexVZ
Jul 21, 2021 2:06 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Sadly I can confirm this anecdotally following conversation with a friend’s wife, a practising GP who has been administering the jabs. She was, despite being a lovely person, entirely unaware of the technology, risks, nature and mechanism of action of mRNA shots. I was gobsmacked and thought at the time.. we’re so fucked.

Corarden
Corarden
Jul 21, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  AlexVZ

Thx mate, I’m just so angry my other half’s GP encouraged her to get Pfizered… one and two…I dread the future…and pray that the good spirits will keep her safe.

Crimbotoy
Crimbotoy
Jul 21, 2021 3:12 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

“I think coming here, listening to Mike Yeadon’s excellent presentation and some of the comments, I think the central problem is public ignorance.
I have a degree in chemistry, so I am well qualified to understand what Mike Yeadon is saying having read up on the subject.”

This thinking is a huge part of the problem. You’re assuming the knowledge you posses makes your understanding of the situation greater than others. Every single science has been moulded to suit by those in power. Your degree was written by those who wish you to learn what they want you to learn. Your foundation for learning has been decided and conditioned by those who truly understand our reality. People then use these credentials as a badge of authority in society. I respectfully disagree. To me, you are only parroting what the system wants you too and to think within the perimeters which they set and have set all throught history.

A child can see this is a lie. No need for science, just the obvious and glaring reality that this is a takeover and hell is coming.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 9:48 PM
Reply to  Crimbotoy

I respectfully disagree.

I say what I want thanks. I don’t “parrot” anybody’s line.

Kate
Kate
Jul 21, 2021 11:54 AM

We couldn’t expose 9/11 in any meaningful way and that failure is why we are here.

It’s almost 20 years since a colossal lie was broadcast to the world.

My feeling is that THEY may have war gamed our reactions to the covid scam to hell and back but would they expect us to fight back with 9/11?

How many against the lockdowns and the #clotshot and the covid passports have any idea about 9/11?

How many in fear of covid would be open to a conversation about 9/11?

Some 9/11 nudging may help and I doubt it could hurt.

This is a nice video to share. It’s Building 7 footage set to Tom Petty’s Free Fallin’ with appropriate lyric changes.

It’s on youtube but for sharing here I’ll post an invidious (private youtube frontend) link

https://ytprivate.com/watch?v=Vgx8Uwo-Vxc

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 21, 2021 12:37 PM
Reply to  Kate

I am against lockdowns, clotshot and passports and I’ve explored the 9/11 subject in a very detailed way, including a lot of articles published here at OffG. I’ve watched videos of former CEO of the premier US demolitions company stating categorically that the WTC towers collapsed through controlled demolition. I am fully aware of the insider trading scams involve BT Alex Brown, airline options etc etc. I am fully aware of the insurance scam pulled by the owner of the WTC buildings, Larry Silverstein. I am fully aware of the US Government not treating ‘Ground Zero’ as a crime scene and simply shovelling all the evidence away to China to be suitably buried. I am fully aware of all the upsurges in cancer cases from ‘first responders’ and am absolutely aware of the BBC pre-recording a piece on the demolition of WTC7.

My view is the best way to start to ‘nudge’ people on 9/11 is James Corbett’s classic 5 minute video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q

‘Because IGNORANCE IS STRNGTH!’

AlexVZ
AlexVZ
Jul 21, 2021 12:38 PM
Reply to  Kate

I consider that battle, which consumed my entire 20s!, to be lost. It was useful as a wake up call and indicator of how rigged and corrupt the authorities are and how supine and clueless the general population is. A good primer for this particular shit show, no?

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 21, 2021 1:22 PM
Reply to  Kate

Exactly. The same perpetrators, same false flag. Unfortunately Joe Public has the memory and attention span as a goldfish. MSM owned and controlled by the 0.01%. The sheep are asleep.

Howard
Howard
Jul 21, 2021 1:26 PM
Reply to  Kate

I cannot think of 9/11 without also thinking of the Pretenders’ song “Time The Avenger.”

What 20 years has done is to solidify the flimsiest of evidence into a fait accompli. I suspect more people doubted the official narrative back then than today.

Doubtless if you brought up 9/11 to a majority of people, they would shake their head and say “That was proven 20 years ago!”

And even with the wealth of data being presented to counter the official COVID narrative, in 20 years (if anyone is still around), people would pull the same decomposed rabbit out of their hat and tell you “That was proven 20 years ago!”

Xavier
Xavier
Jul 21, 2021 9:09 PM
Reply to  Kate

9/11 was the tolling of the first bell.

If you looked into it deeply enough you’d understand its purpose, and the purpose of Covid.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2021 12:24 PM
Reply to  Xavier

It depends on how much history you want to review. Some say it started with the founding of USA. Others, with the very earliest monarchies.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2021 12:21 PM
Reply to  Kate

It was not a “demolition” or “collapse”. It was nukes: the ultimate in chutzpah or gumption.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/09/01/breathtaking-solving-nuclear-9-11-the-pommer-report/

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 22, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  mgeo

The nuke hypothesis has been completely debunked, several times. Dr. Steven Jones published an analysis that refuted nukes in the WTC back in 2006, and AE911T have a long article offering in depth data to show the nuke idea has no merit.

http://www.ae911truth.org/images/articles/2015/Aug_2015/FAQ-15.pdf

We would ask you to address all these data points in any future claims you make about nukes.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 24, 2021 7:58 AM

You have responded to explanation I provided with the narrative from one of the gate-keepers. I seem to have set off a trip-wire. Message understood.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 24, 2021 1:57 PM
Reply to  mgeo

I linked you to a comprehensive article that offers data it claims debunks the nuke hypothesis. If you aim to be taken seriously this is where you offer a similarly in depth analysis that refutes or disproves this data.

If instead you resort to ad hom and flee the field, what message are you sending?

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jul 21, 2021 11:40 AM

Well, I’ve had time to listen to all of this now. I agree 100% with what Mike Yeadon is saying.

I said the same last night, and this got 10+, but also 5-

I can only surmise that those who read last nights comment and gave me a downvote either were on the side of the government and Big Pharma or thought I was being sarcastic.

I wasn’t being sarcastic.

Clear?

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jul 21, 2021 11:04 AM

Utopia

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lfEhukg6e7tq/

(Again the alcohol/tobacco error.)

Shin
Shin
Jul 21, 2021 9:48 AM

Break the door down on the PCR test. Business closures, job losses, freedoms, your rights, treatments for serious issues bypassed because of a silly little test that does absolutely fuck all. It doesn’t measure whether your sick and /or healthy.
It’s a tool for DNA sequencing.
The PCR test is the scourge for why everything above is happening.
Break that element and just about everything else falls apart.
Cheers!

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jul 21, 2021 12:30 PM
Reply to  Shin

the source is sh/people 🙁

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 21, 2021 1:02 PM
Reply to  Shin

Ah but Gates and Soros are buying the UK PCR testing company. Can’t risk their profits for piffling things like UK health, UK jobs, UK freedom, UK human rights etc etc.

Shin
Shin
Jul 21, 2021 1:57 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Buying it!? Aren’t they both using it right now. Does it really matter if they own it?
Whether they own it or not is completely irrelevant.
It is used as the #1 tool for suppression right now.
Cut the PCR test at the knees and just about everything falls apart.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 9:25 AM

Dr. Kerry Chant is the Chief Health Officer of New South Wales. She is now chanting :

“So even if you run into your next door neighbor in the shopping center…don’t start up a conversation, now is the time for minimizing your interactions with others, even if you’ve got a mask”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1417426275313065985

That’s even worse than our psychos in the UK. I always thought Australians were sensible friendly people. Have they now gone full on looney?

Has anyone actually died of COVID in Australia?

Cases are meaningless, because the tests have recently been dismissed by the US CDC as “less than useless”

Did no one tell The Australians?

One interesting Aussie Statistic:
COVID-19 cases were reported across all ages:
The median age of deaths is 86 years (range: 27 to 106 years).

When is this lunacy going to stop, and the criminals in control arrested?

JohnEss
JohnEss
Jul 21, 2021 12:40 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Mate, once a penal colony….

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 21, 2021 1:03 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

It’ll stop when people FORCE them to stop. Requesting them to stop has failed miserably, so it’s either direct action or acquiescence.

Francis
Francis
Jul 21, 2021 8:20 AM

Four Died Trying.
You missed the Fifth!
Also died in Dec 1968 in Bangkok. Mentor and sage to Robert Kennedy and his wife Ethel; also to Dr King who cancelled his scheduled meeting with Thomas Merton on that fateful day to instead meet the assasins bullet. Died by electrocution in Bangkok and returned in a plane with dead Vietnam soldiers. One wonders, if his coffin was stashed with opium for sale in the Bronx; what is for certain is that his death ended the era of dialogue of non violence, opening the door for the ravages of war and empire.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Jul 21, 2021 11:15 AM
Reply to  Francis

James W. Douglass book The Unspeakable references the phrase Thomas Merton coined to join all of the major events that led up to the death of JFK.

This was the ‘void’ that was quietly pushing the policies that led to America’s involvement in Vietnam and the death of 2 of the Kennedy brothers including those responsible for both the cover up and the policy instigation that had cost JFK his life.

It was indeed a shame that what he had referenced many years earlier had come to claim him also in Thailand. And it still lives on…

Tubber
Tubber
Jul 21, 2021 8:08 AM

Perhaps it is just my iPad. Has anyone else had difficulty viewing this video?

Ooink
Ooink
Jul 21, 2021 8:29 AM
Reply to  Tubber

I’m having difficulty believing any video is of any importance whatsover beyond click money for whatever channel thinks it’s saving the world at this minute.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 21, 2021 12:23 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Well said. Thank you. If anyone cannot spit it out in succinct writing, he does not respect my time.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Jul 21, 2021 9:56 AM
Reply to  Tubber

Yes, it has just been deleted. This might work

https://3speak.tv/watch?v=nonewabnormal/dreckpwn

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 21, 2021 8:05 AM

I have a feeling the covid crap we have already seen is the merest beginning. Everything so far has been a matter of “softening up” and preparation for further remoulding. I predict that this “freedom day” will be met with a temporary cessation of covid fearmongering – because even the desperate bullshit pushers will realise that to go into an instant scream about escalating figures right after the relaxation would be a giveaway that even the toilet roll champers might get suspicious of. So I reckon there will be a lull of perhaps a week or two before the “catastrophic tsunami of surging surges of surgery” resume.

Edith
Edith
Jul 21, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I think I can say that is guaranteed…take a look at agenda 21/30 and the world debt and you may get the picture…

AlexVZ
AlexVZ
Jul 21, 2021 10:57 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Sergeant Sergio Leone’s Surgery of surge sugars. Next week I reckon.

Claret
Claret
Jul 22, 2021 1:11 PM
Reply to  George Mc

‘I have a feeling the covid crap we have already seen is the merest beginning.’
…..
I really hope you are totally wrong about that George, but I’m afraid you may very well be right.

Terje M
Terje M
Jul 21, 2021 7:59 AM

For a laugh, check out how villain Klaus Schwab explains ze secret plan – in song
https://www.nachrichtenspiegel.de/2021/07/18/herr-schwab-explains-ze-secret-plan-in-song/

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jul 21, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  Terje M

Almost as funny as the Harry Vox interview.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 21, 2021 7:55 AM