The Myth of the “Infallible Elite”
Catte Black
The man behind the curtain would love you to believe he is great and powerful
A commenter BTL called Petra made this claim recently in regard to the conspirators behind 9/11 etc.
All glaring anomalies are deliberate examples of “revelation of the method” / “hidden in plain sight”…
She was referring to the fact Building 7 was so very obviously ‘pulled’. Her thesis being the elites are basically infallible, literally incapable of human error and when they appear to goof or slip up and reveal their lies or fakery, this is all part of their plan.
They are gods essentially, not mortals, and whatever they reveal unto us will be what they choose us to know of their infinite power.
OK.
So, here’s my reply to her.
I recall a true-crime show once where a total psychopath planned his wife’s murder in meticulous detail. Gave her antifreeze by injecting it into an unopened coke bottle or something. Planned an alibi for when she died, covered his tracks.
But then he didn’t empty the trash and the antifreeze container was found there, plus a receipt in his car for the purchase.
Oh, and he had googled ‘how to kill your wife and get away with it’ and hadn’t deleted the search.
Do we think this was intentional “revelation of the method”? Or just an idiot getting caught out?
Do we assume the guy’s intention all along was to get found out and put on death row – because that is where he ended up? Or do we figure he wanted to get away with it, thought he’d been brilliantly deceptive but was defeated by his own limitations?
And, by the way, he was not an isolated example. True crime is littered with people such as this. Often highly educated, intelligent, privileged people who hatch plans to remove a spouse, rival, business partner etc that combine superficial cunning with breathtaking omissions of basic common sense.
You or I could do much better, except we wouldn’t. The fact seems to be that being psychopathic enough to want to do these things renders you, by and large, incapable of doing them successfully or plausibly.
Their lack of empathy makes them ruthless but also incapable of reasoning to the extent of creating an interlocking, three-dimensional narrative of innocence.
The point here being that the minds behind the mass-murdering psyops are of exactly the same kind as those killing spouses, and the motives are just as base – greed, gain, power and other pointless things.
The ‘conspirators’ crank it up a few notches but, just like the guy with the antifreeze, their shenanigans are a dizzying mishmash of ruthless cunning and utter simpleminded incompetence.
They do the equivalent of carefully injecting poison into the coke and then leaving the evidence in the trash – because the idea someone might disbelieve their initial story enough to do even a bit of investigating never crosses their minds.
And of course they’re in no danger of ending up on death row because, unlike hapless antifreeze guy, they own the judiciary, legal system and entire political class so the incentive to try hard isn’t even there.
While we’re on the subject this is a good time to remember these psyops/false flags are never smooth well oiled machines. Their very nature tends to preclude that. They’re not clever heist movies. They are a bedlam of isolated groups working often competing interests. The required level of secrecy and compartmentalizations means control is diffuse and therefore often less than total and easily lost.
The greed and impairment of the driving forces affects every level. There are petty rivalries, one-upmanships. They lie to each other as much as to us. They sell each other out and stitch each other up. Different pockets may be working competing or conflicting narratives. The unexpected inevitably happens. Plans need to be changed or adapted on the fly and not everyone gets to know soon enough.
The middlemen and spokespeople may still be working an old script and, for example, announce the collapse of a building that is still standing.
When this happens fresh panic ensues, emergency narrative improvisations happen and then may be subsequently cancelled due to major plausibility issues.
And so we get smiling Silversteins, smugly thinking they can improvise a backup story of ‘pulling’ building 7, only to be told later that won’t fly, because you can’t rig a building for ‘pulling’ in a matter of hours.
Cue sudden change of direction and WTC7 being airbrushed from the narrative.
The supervillain version of ‘them’ touted by some forgets all this messy human reality and replaces it with unreal and quasi hero-worshipping assumptions of godlike power. And THAT is exactly how these greedy little narcissists want to be seen. It’s their favorite autoerotic workout routine. “That’s right, I’m all powerful, that’s right I play with your mind. Oh yeah baby, I’M A GOD.”
Someone tell Petra and her ilk they are simply asking us to ignore the silly little clown behind the curtain and tremble at the awesome power of Oz.
The PTB love people who do that.
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This is an interesting article, What is Knowable, The Unknown Unknowns of Donald Rumsfeld Fame? 9/11 was a monetary Event, The missing Pentagon Billions and records kept in Building 7 This from Brendan O’Connel iii is worth watching. Amazingly, no major outlet – Alt or MSM – has seen fit to link Donald Trump’s 911 comment with Bannon’s “end the fed” remarks a week later with the raid on Trump’s lair? Event 201 was a monetary event . Ushering in the going direct Paradigm. Obviously, the 2008/9 Global Financial Crisis was also a monetary event but clearly more obviously so. #FtheWEF was trending on Twitter in the UK a couple of days ago. #EndTheFed. “Money” YOU SAY #ARYANS I SAY #ARIANS, Inflation, Cui Bono Who Benefits? Tim Morgans Seeds Falsified? #239: Life after liberalism? Posted on September 13, 2022 THE CESSATION OF GROWTH CHANGES EVERYTHING The Climate Crisis is also… Read more »
I have always wondered about this article that Catte Black maybe wrong.
If you understood the occult more then maybe until then The “Infallible Elite” isn’t a myth.And the so called mistakes are made sometimes on purpose.
This is a strawman argument, one can assert that “Revelation Of The Method” – i.e. ritual serving of notice of intent – exists without asserting that the ruling class are infallible
Do correct me if I am wrong surely your suppose too inform your readers where the original term came from and it actual meaning.! not what you think it means.
Revelation of the method in it original l format can be found in
SECRET SOCIETIES A N D PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE Michael A. Hoffman II
King Kill 33 BY JAMES SHELBY DOWNARD & MICHAEL A. HOFFMAN II.
I posted the 1st stages of the method used in Revelation of the method in the original format the night the article came out, it got spam checkd (we are in mercury retra shadow so perhaps) it is lost?
Revelation of the method is a life changer you never see media and alt media the same again.
Your fully understand the psycho dramas that is being played out in stages over a period of time and maybe why they do it and the reason’s why,.
H. G. Wells, in “The Time Machine”, (1895) speaks of the ‘Eloi’, “ignorant, child-like, distant descendants of the contemporary upper class”, to borrow from Wikipedia.
They are the ‘good guys’ in the book, and the hero even falls in love with one of them – to the point of wanting to travel through time to find her again.
That’s something like what our modern ‘elite’ imagine they are going to make out of future survivors:
Ignorant, child-like descendants of contemporary humanity – essentially, robots.
Wells knew more than he let on…
“True crime is littered with people such as this. Often highly educated, intelligent, privileged people who hatch plans to remove a spouse, rival, business partner etc that combine superficial cunning with breathtaking omissions of basic common sense.” But we only know about the ones that get caught. How many get away or make some one else get the blame. If we know what is happening we mostly know about what is happening after the event , when it is to late. If we know in advance what is planned it is because they have told us. This may be in think tank reports or conferences that are put online. But most plans are never implemented . Some like the swine flu fail or are tests or trial runs. So we can never know what is going to be implemented. Warnings of the 2008 financial crash were few and there were… Read more »
Setting up division :
No planes vs planes
No explosives/energy weapon versus explosives
No deaths vs deaths
Hoax vs reality
Flat earth versus spherical earth
No virus versus virus
Do you see the pattern?
It’s my conviction that there is a higher octave of conspiracy and it includes key “mistakes”, blind alleys and traps set.
Not saying that TPTB are all powerful but that they most certainly should not be underestimated.
Sensible comment
There is a noticeable pattern when you research deep state events like JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations, OKC and 9/11 attacks. There is an odd lack of concealment which points away from the named perps. What sort of false flag execution leads to the necessity of extensive media cover-up and behind the scenes pressure? We are talking about cover-up requirements for decades after the event due to the sloppiness. Yes there are mistakes due to factors like competing factions, compartmentalization, complexity, efforts by insiders to mitigate the plot, brazenness, etc. Nevertheless the pattern suggests there are way too many mistakes. For example a passport that survives Flight 11 and is conveniently found. That is indicative of a deliberate intention to reveal that unnamed perps were involved in the attack. One theory is that this serves to intimidate, demoralize and confuse anyone who does not readily accept the standard line. Meaning we… Read more »
This is a really good article – I know nothing about 9/11 but I have had many discussions about the relationship between incompetence and bad intentions. Catte Black nails it.
Who, today, knows nothing about 9/11…?
Don’t be modest.
What makes Petra’s comments (on this board and others) so deeply irritating is that she leaps imediately from a position most honest people will easily accept — that we are ruled by people who lie to us routinely — to the assertion that everything is fake. If you think dozens of people were murdered and hundreds more maimed and traumatised in Bologna in 1978, well, Petra knows better: “There was a bombing, yes”, she concedes — why does she concede this, exactly?– but nobody was actually hurt. https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/16/watch-false-flags-the-secret-history-of-al-qaeda-part-1/#comment-431416 So It’s not enough to say that powerful liars planned & commited terrible atrocities and blamed them on “left-wing terrorists” in order to terrify the populace and consolidate their power. No, these Masters of Illusion also faked all the dead and injured. They can do that, you see. There is no end to their power. Perhaps nobody died in the Twin Towers… Read more »
Patrick, I provided a link to show that Bologna was an evacuated bombing but you didn’t go there. I wonder why not. Do you want me to come back into the comments and repeat what’s at my link? There are a number of photographs – photographs can be quite telling – but to insert them here is rather painful – a lot easier to simply go to the link and look at what I put forward for the fakery of death and injury. https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/bologna-1980-and-mogadishu-2017.html I also put a link to the fakery of the plane crash in Tehran but presumably you didn’t go to that link either. https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/did-ps-752-crash-in-tehran Perhaps, Patrick, you believe that Sandy Hook was real? That the US government really murdered those poor children … or in that case you believe it was the work of lone shooter Adam Lanza? Please tell me, Patrick, what you think happened… Read more »
Conjecture isn’t evidence. Incredulity isn’t evidence. Opinion isn’t evidence. Do you understand what evidence is?
When I made a complaint to the BBC with evidence. There reply was evidence is not proof. They should have maybe said evidence is not conclusive proof. But they were basically correct evidence is not proof. If something is or is not evidence is often conjecture. So we try to weigh up what is and is not convincing evidence. But we can not avoid our inbuilt bias on what we consider possible or likely. Take the Manchester bombing as an example there is evidence that the photo of what happened was taken in the morning. https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=6SXU6Y79G9NH There is other evidence that all is not as it should be. But what about the victims and there families. One might conclude that this proves all the deaths must be fake. Or possibly there was a staged photo in the morning and the state arranged the bombing later in the evening. Or the… Read more »
There is nothing in the photographic evidence to suggest a bomb even went off in Manchester let alone killed 22 and injured numerous others. Manchester is the biggest joke ever … but how can I say that there are so many others.
But if you saw the grieving relatives and injured from Manchester at the inquest this makes you think.
where they are supposed to have machine gunned the civilian. But you do not see the blood and injury you would suspect. Was the photo staged as the real event was to gruesome.
The Boston Bombing is another example with much that seems impossible for it to be real. But I saw a documentary about the injured and there recovery that was convincing.
This photo is reported to be of the Mỹ Lai massacre in Vietnam
This has happened before in war photo’s.
It makes it harder to sort the real from the fake.
Brian, the fakery of both Manchester and Boston is unmistakeable. This is an interesting video about alleged hero in Boston (a very common feature of psyops), Carlos Arredondo, by Conspiracy Theorista. https://www.bitchute.com/video/9RCJvJcgvc9q/ Manchester is a complete joke. https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/manchester-bombing.html I’ve never looked at My Lai but wouldn’t surprise me if it’s faked too. Not that horrific killing doesn’t go on, I know it does … but it’s not what they show us. If they showed us the real killing we’d get up in arms more against wars but because they show us sanitised images we go along with it more easily. I’ve tried to find real images of people maimed in bombings and I simply cannot find them. I once saw a video of a man who’d just had his arms and legs blown off and it was utterly horrific – it still disturbs me thinking about it. Of course, that… Read more »
I’m curious,
What happens to the named dead?
Are their families paid off to act it out?
If I were the elites and didn’t care about the plebs, I’d do the real thing. Far easier to plant a bomb than to stage the entire thing.
Elements are staged, no doubt. But I can’t think why they would go to all the trouble of faking it when they don’t mind killing us anyway.
There’s way too much risk associated with faking the entire event.
There’s way too much risk associated with faking the entire event. They don’t have any problems with a massive number of people recognising Sandy Hook as completely staged though. You really need to understand how propaganda and mind control work … and because I’ve gone through the very visceral experience of waking up to how my mind was controlled I think I have a better understanding than most people … although of course there’s vastly more to understand that I’m sure I’ll never know. When I woke up to 9/11 being an “inside job” I didn’t really have a sense of waking up to my mind being controlled because while I believed the story I’d never been an enthusiastic believer of it and I knew from Day One manipulation was involved which was probably why I made no effort to pay much attention. Thus even though in a way that… Read more »
Provide proof Australia exists, dammit!
I would ask you the same question ?
Dogs exist, therefore all cats are dogs.
Fakery exists, therefore everything is fake..
You have a hammer, therefore everything you see is a nail.
‘Links” are not evidence , just other opinions pro or con. A version of appealing to an illusory higher authority , routinely done by religionists , moralizers , and all manner of demagogues .
Well, it depends what the links are, rather obviously.
In relation to Internet comment sections they do not . Links are simply a method of bolstering an opinion , a modern rhetorical device of sorts.
That’s silly. A2
Jesus wept.
Jesus did not exist !
How about you tell us how you came to swallow the Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory hook, line and sinker? I certainly hope you didn’t believe anything you read on the Internet that you got to via links!
“I did not swallow ‘the official story” whatever you may believe that is ? I saw the airliners impact the bankster towers . That attack was then used to justify war abroad , repression and removal of civil rights at home. Covid the political position has replaced terrorism as a justification as the planet becomes a computer managed global concentration camp .
Provide proof Australia exists, dammit!
Allegedly Petra lives in Australia, but she’s just been told that. It could be anywhere.
Also: Ayer’s Rock definitely doesn’t exist. It’s been renamed. Why?
I believe in the moon landings Roberto where many thousands or even millions don’t. I don’t disbelieve according to an inclination to disbelieve, I disbelieve according to the evidence. That isn’t to say that I may not misinterpret the evidence but I judge always according to the evidence never according to an disinclination to believe. It’s pretty simple – lots of lies have been told to us and many of them are multi-layered – wouldn’t you expect some lies to have multiple layers and that the people the power elite know won’t believe them will have special propaganda just for them to mislead them just as those who believe have their propaganda. You don’t think the power elite are just going to leave us to not believe them do you? They have to get us as well. With their power they want to dupe everybody not just those who will… Read more »
To all OGers … allow me to suggests we rechristen the ageless tool of logic “Petra’s Razor” and have done with it.
Victor, you challenged me to contact the Association of Relatives of the Victims of the Bologna Station bombing and I did that. Do you seriously think I would have had the temerity to do such a thing if I had even the teensiest doubt about the staging of death and injury in that bombing? The teensiest doubt? I assure I wouldn’t have done that, I’m simply not that kind of person. I had no doubt because all the evidence clearly showed staging. The person I contacted was the president, Paolo Bolognesi, politician and writer, and I discovered Signore Bolognesi has written a book, Order out of Chaos, yes the man has blatantly written a book with the Masonic motto as its title. Very unsurprisingly, I received no reply. This is my page showing that all the evidence favours evacuated bombing, including witness testimony that doesn’t in the least line up… Read more »
The alleged moon landing occurred circa 1969 , before the Internet was developed and long after the Nixon era [ roughly 2 decades ] . Using the Internet version of logic popular these days , Nixon’s corruption makes it unlikely that it happened . I used to believe without question that we put a man on the moon. Now when the topic is broached i think maybe ?
Jim, when there is a wealth of purported evidence I think it’s impossible to not to be able to work out the truth. The conditions on the moon are vastly different from those on earth and what we see in all the purported evidence is consistency with those vastly different conditions, including: — no atmosphere — 1/6th gravity — black sky in lunar daytime against brightly lit moonscape (the hardest to fake in my opinion as I think it would have been impossible to fake sunlight at night back then – maybe now but not back then) When I put forward the argument above to moon hoaxers they immediately respond with, “Oh but we don’t know the conditions on the moon because we’ve never been there.” This is a poor argument because scientists can work things out about stuff without having “been there” and to use the argument with any… Read more »
“and… motives… just as base – greed, gain, power and other pointless things.”
Yes…Well observed.
Baudrillard maintains that if it wasn’t seen on TV /I-Phone it didn’t happen. A world view increasingly embraced by the masses. Leonard Cohen points out in his dirge The Future , there ain’t nothing you can measure anymore.
They walk among us and seem almost human….. We are governed by psychopaths, entertained by psychopaths, cajoled and lied to by presstitute psychopaths, the very scum that we are told are benevolent philanthropists are among the most evil psychopaths on this planet and yet some people imagine that all this will not end badly. Are you a psychopath? The Hare Test https://www.businessinsider.com/hare-psychopath-checklist-test-sociopath-2016-11?op=1&r=US&IR=T#3-do-you-have-an-excess-need-for-stimulation-or-proneness-to-boredom-3 Andrew Lobaczewski Political Ponerology; The Science of Evil PONEROLOGY: EVIL IS A DISEASE http://www.ponerology.com/ PSYCHOPATHY: THE CAUSE OF EVIL Inherited and acquired psychological disorders and ignorance of their existence and nature are the primal causes of evil. The magic number of 6% seems to represent the number of humans who either carry the genes responsible for biological evil or who acquire such disorders in the course of their lifetime. This small percent is responsible for the vast majority of human misery and crime, and for infecting others with… Read more »
Psychohistory is such a great site! So much to think about there.
Kill Bill gates of hell, best buddy of Maxwell Epstein pedovore in chief and Mossad kiddy porn director along with filthy Swi$$ money laundry and spawn of genuine kosher German Nazis, the Hollyweird central casting SS cutout lout aka Satan Klaus Slob, Rothschild bagman geriatric peddler of fellow Jews to Nazis, the inimitable Gyorgi “Soros”, all these demons would have you believe that their Tony Jaws Fauci and his Fort Detrick (debt trick) Wuflu virus has it all sewn up and you are nothing more than a redundant head of tax cattle down on Rancho Goyim, USSA soon to be slaughtered for the greater good of the zero 1% reptilian slime that imagines it has “inherited the earth”. The great r€$et my ass. The entire scam is falling apart as quick as you can say Pfizer macht frei and nothing on this Earth is going to save their mountains of… Read more »
You can divide the 9/11 anomalies along these lines:
Before: history, planning, deliberate raising of tensions, subversion, red herrings, hijackers, supression of warnings, airports & planes, WTC changes, tenants moving out/staying away, financial speculation.
During: failure to intercept the planes, Pentagon building, Twin Towers, WTC7.
After: WTC analysis, hijackers, passengers, the planes (collectively and individually), other clues, cover-ups, red herrings, aftermath, OBL.
In a modern false-flag op., the distractions (including subsequent leaks/fakes) may be planned, or they may be developed to thwart investigators/sceptics. This also applies to assassinations.
Here an excerpt from https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/there-were-no-commercial-plane-crashes-on-911/
“Every supposed one of the 256 passengers on 9-11 paid for their tickets in cash on THE MORNING 0f 9-11! NOT ONE used a single credit card and there are no electronic receipts from anyone or any company anywhere in the world. Why? There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.”
“Except for the supposed Atta and all of his massive incriminating evidence on a supposed suicide flight….NOT ONE single supposed passenger parked a car at any airport on 9-11 NOT ONE. Why? There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.”
Oh yes, there are certainly some *cough* gems there, such as this one:
Huh?
I suggest you read this and enlighten yourself:
A Critical Review of WTC ‘No Plane’ Theories
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200610/Salter.pdf
Great article Catte. The so called “Elite” are not that clever; they are just willing to do things that 99% of us would balk at because we have a working moral compass. As a very crude example go back 200 maybe even 100 years and usury based finance was outlawed or at least frowned upon because it was recognised as unjust but there are records of the money lenders using it since the Middle Ages. They wrap 99 lies with one truth hence they need their propaganda machine to be full spectrum otherwise the lie won’t sell. They hide the truth spiritual and worldly and redirect people to an animalistic way of thinking “consume, fornicate, sleep, consume, fornicate, sleep…..”. They invert realities and sell degeneracy as something prestigious. They project their own “Do what thou wilt” sickness onto us and then have the audacity to admonish us claiming the moral… Read more »
I think a lot of this comes from Leonardo da Vinci deliberately leaving errors in place, almost as his personal ‘signature’. ‘You know I’m a genius, but I choose to be fallible for reasons best known to myself’. For all the cultists, Leonardo was once high up in various cults, so they probably follow his mantras, for that is all cultists can do. The first principle of power cultures is that independent thought is outlawed. The logical consequence of that is that those who reach the top have spent 30 years not thinking independently. It’s the simplest reason why cults are not full of elites, they are full of brainwashed fools incapable of independent thought. I worked in biomedical research for 11 years and that was a power culture, even 30 years ago. Medical practice is far, far worse. Politics is a power culture, banking is a power culture, the… Read more »
Why drag Leonardo Da Vinci down in your narrative? Was he not a totalitarian power keeper but a herald of big mental change, who had to be careful therefore.
The obstacle is not that the ruling gangsters are infallible or that their crimes are unsolvable, or that incriminating evidence is hard to find: it’s that most people really do not want to know. They have a positive aversion to knowing anything that might take them out of their comfort zone and present them with a serious moral dilemma. They have made their arrangement with power long ago, often without ever really noticing they’ve done so. For me that was the toughest lesson of the years immediately after 9/11: When push comes to shove, as it did after 9/11, most people will always side with power. There are brave exceptions, yes; but few will dare risk crossing the bounds of the expressible, even in thought. They’ll perform an autolobotomy first. (I’ve seen it happen many times.) When I say people, I mean, y’know, real people, the ones whose opinions count:… Read more »
… it’s that most people really do not want to know. And that is the reason that the perps have carte blanche to tell us stories that do not add up in any shape or form – inserting extra anomalies above and beyond just for fun – and get away with it. People do not want to know. If they did, power couldn’t operate the way it does. It’s not that power is infallible in reality, it’s that the majority of the people treat them as if they are – or rather it’s not so much infallibility as omnipotence. They’re omnipotent because we let them be, not because they really are, but because we let them be by not calling them out in their massive lies. Friends and family who are onboard with the pandemic story don’t really want to speak to me … as I don’t want to speak… Read more »
That’s well put, It is hard to separate the ‘Elite’ gangsters from the supporting upper middle class. It is a social system of its own, one we know little about as outsiders. How does it hang together so well? Whatever the next idiot program served up all have to stand behind it. Maybe what we see is no so much the ‘Elite’ but the Mamluks who took over. The Apparatchiks know fine well what the score is.
Correction: “career” should be “salary” in the Upton Sinclair quote (although “career” does work equally well, as would “reputation on Facespook”).
I think Catte & Petra are both talking past each other tbh. Petra calls it ‘revelation of the method’, Catte mite recognise it if we call it predictive programming, see pretty much any big hollywood movie for examples, corbett includes ‘propaganda balloons’ as a form of predictive programming too. Building 7 is a bad example, an obvious screw-up, not really recognisable as predictive programming or revelation of the method. There obviously was predictive programming, from the mural on the sie of the Israeli movers van, to enough BS about Osama bin Ladan for William Cooper to predict a comming large scale false flag would be blamed on Bin Laden 2 months before 9/11. Catte gets bent up because she doesn’t think the Parasite Class deserves all powerful Super Villan status, because thats disempowering. Petra says it’s irrelevant weather it’s a screw-up or overconfidence they won’t be brought to book. If… Read more »
Petra thinks all the mistakes the elites make are intentional. Period. She doesn’t mean anything but that. There’s no point in trying to suggest she does or in redirecting the discussion along lines you think more reasonable. It’s Petra’s opinion, not yours.
I think it’s hard to argue that WTC7 not having an aeroplane flown into it was intentional. It’s absolutely clear that WTC7 was pulled because it stored the back up records of servers from the Budget Analysts Office at the Pentagon that was hit by the missile. If you assume, as I do, that the elite plan was to bury forever 20 years of black ops budgetary theft through misdirection and entry into forever Middle Eastern Wars, being shameless and brazen whilst so doing, then you assume that saying ‘We pulled WTC7 and there’s nothing you can do to stop us doing it’ was what the elites were doing. If you are a psychopath, a powermonger, a desperate evangelist prepared to murder for years on end to impose your will on others, that sort of thing is ‘the mark of the mafia overlord’. It’s a bit like leaving a pig’s… Read more »
‘I think it’s hard NOT to argue….’
From elsewhere in this thread:
“My question about WTC7 was always: Why would they destroy the whole building just to remove incriminating evidence (computer hard drives, paperwork, etc)? Why not just remove the evidence?
I’ve yet to hear a really convincing answer.”
They pulled down all seven buildings at the WTC, they wanted them all down, Rhys but 3-6 they pulled down discreetly after 9/11. They could have pulled down 7 discreetly to but they chose not to. To me it’s not so much about what was in the building – which may well have contained things they wanted destroyed as you say – but about making it the focus for those people the perps knew at the outset wouldn’t believe their story. They wanted to gradually move all the focus to be exclusively on the buildings, especially 7, and away from the planes because faked planes means faked deaths and they didn’t want focus on any fakery of death.
Of course 7 was intended to be a spectacle – just like 1&2. The point is something obviously went wrong with 7 and so the rationale for its collapse was missing. Hence it looks like such an anomaly. Which is why, after the fact it was airbrushed from the narrative as Catte says in the article.
But anyhow they couldn’t actually have pulled 7 anything like as discreetly as they pulled 3-6, because 7 was MUCH taller and separated from the WTC complex. So it was always going to be more of a show.
It’s not difficult to understand, Petra. You’re just basically clutching at straws.
Actually I just got caught in the trap I was trying to expose. Every single thing in the 9/11 narrative is, essentially, “revelation of the method”. From alleged terrorists boarding the planes and hijacking them with box cutters to guiding them, unmolested by a single interceptor, into iconic buildings causing them to crash to the ground in a matter of seconds etc is all completely unbelievable and shows that the perps know they have carte blanche to do whatever they like and have the majority of the population swallow it.
So there is no reason whatsoever to doubt that the collapse of 7 was completely deliberate and designed to focus the anticipated disbelievers of their story on demolition and away from the faked planes because of the planes’ association with faked death because they have that carte blanche.
Your reasoning is arbitrary. Using exactly the same data you could argue ‘they’ wanted to reveal the method through the ‘fake planes’ in order to distract from CD. After all ‘fake planes’ was promoted by former Bush insider Morgan Reynolds on MSNBC back in 2006, and he got a much easier ride than Steven Jones got when he tried to talk about Building7.
Compare the hate poured on Jones to the hate poured on Reynolds – who btw also became a supporter of Wood and space beams.
And prior to the AE911 campaign on Building 7 far more people knew about the ‘no planes’ theory than knew 3 buildings fell that day, so your argument is based on a fundamentally false premise.
My point being that the ‘evidence’ is capable of multiple interpretations, some of which fit much better than yours.
Morgan Reynolds back in 2006.
The propaganda works on a timeline, Sophie. So back ages ago yes we heard from John Lear and other plane experts. Where are they now?
You need to consider ALL the evidence, all of it.
What does that even mean, Petra?
In general terms it means they time their propaganda. They roll it out along a planned timeline.
In the case of 9/11, they knew people would be interested in the planes so they had a reasonable amount of focus on the planes initially but then gradually they’ve moved attention to be massively on the “smoking gun”, WTC-7, with very little on the planes.
As I’ve said a number of times, Sophie, have you somehow missed it? the Pilots for 9/11 Truth website is virtually defunct, John Lear has disappeared and nor are any aircraft accident investigators on the job, A&E is going gangbusters and 60 aerospace engineers have signed onto A&E – to talk about how planes don’t bring down buildings NOT to talk about how the planes were faked.
In the case of 9/11, they knew people would be interested in the planes so they had a reasonable amount of focus on the planes initially but then gradually they’ve moved attention to be massively on the “smoking gun”, WTC-7, with very little on the planes. 🤦♀️ Jeeez, Petra, listen to yourself girl. You spend months saying “they demolished WTC7 to distract from the planes” and as soon as it’s pointed out to you that makes zero sense because agents such as Morgan Reynolds were actually talking about the planes all the time, you say “Oh yeah, the plan was to let people talk about the planes initially, but then phase it out…” You literally will say anything, you will contradict yourself, backtrack, revise, lie, tie your own narrative in knots, talk any amount of crap rather than just admit your whole ‘analysis’ is simplistic, uninformed, reductionist and plain wrong.… Read more »
Wasn’t making the above up. Comment made on 12 September 2020.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/12/watch-justice-rising-9-11-truth-conference-day-1/#comment-251753
What point do you see this as making? You’re just showing me the facts don’t remotely fit your own assertion. Yes, your idea WTC7 was intentionally brought down to ‘distract’ from the no planes argument is totally destroyed by the fact that for more than ten years after 9/11 every shill was talking about ‘no planes’ and ignoring building 7.
Now, move on.
I’m afraid I disagree, Sophie. It doesn’t matter how long after, what matters is now. Heard of the long plan? These are simple facts applying to now. — There are no plane experts talking about the planes — A&E for 9/11 Truth is far, far more active than Pilots for 9/11 Truth which is virtually defunct — 60 aerospace engineers have signed onto A&E for 9/11 Truth to talk about how buildings don’t bring down planes NOT to say the evidence shows there were no planes – they act as though there were planes but, of course, they should know better than anyone that there weren’t http://www1.ae911truth.org/de/faqs/127-60-aerospace-engineers-call-for-new-911-investigation.html — WTC-7 is generally regarded as the “smoking gun” when there is no reason that term cannot be applied to the planes from a number of angles. I rest my case there. If you think my case doesn’t stand up that is your… Read more »
So, just to be clear before we wrap this up. – You admit the ‘no planes’ story was widely discussed by all manner of people and promoted by known shills for at least ten years after 9/11, while at the same time WTC7 was airbrushed out of existence. – You are suggesting the best explanation for this is that the PTB pulled WTC7 as a ‘distraction’ for the alleged lack of planes and then allowed everyone to talk about the planes and forget about building 7 because they had a ‘long plan’ (which you don’t even attempt to define). – You genuinely think this fits the facts better than the idea WTC7 was supposed to come down after being hit by something, but the something didn’t turn up, leaving the building’s implosion as an anomaly the PTB succeeded in airbrushing away for ten years, distracting people with ‘no planes’ stuff.… Read more »
Thanks, Admin 1.
All I can say is that Petra has chosen a very difficult way to make a living.
Today, however, she hit the jackpot. Whether she’s paid per post or per word, it’s been a good day for her.
Sophie, I just thought I’d point out that today I looked up the Pilots for 9/11 Truth website (http://pilotsfor911truth.org) and it is no longer – or at least the message appears when you click the URL, “This site has stepped out for a bit – If you are the site owner … ” It’s still there in the webarchive though. Looks like it stopped being active around the beginning of the year. https://web.archive.org/web/20210112064405/http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ I did find another pilots site, https://911pilots.org/ set up by Captain Dan Hanley who seemingly was retired early for asking too many questions although I have to say I cannot quite follow his very convoluted story. Captain Dan seems to suggest remoted-controlled planes. Interesting, no? Once upon a time I think I myself gave credence to the remote-controlled theory – a bit of a problem with that theory though because there’s evidence in a couple of cases… Read more »
Recently heard an interview with Dr Judy Wood, her take on WTC 7 is that the clearly seen explosions were just in the facade of the building, the actual felling was the same as the others- turning to dust. I offer no explanation, but as earlier asked where is all the concrete and steel rubble ? Remember Karl Rove and his reality, maybe this is what they spent some of the 21tn on.
Good to see Dr Wood is admirably untroubled by Ockham and his razor
Her whole reasoning is based on Occams razor, the talk was on jerm warfare, sounds like you could do with giving her some time.
I suggest you read this:
The Overwhelming Implausibility of Using Directed Energy Beams to Demolish the World Trade Center
Great article Catte.
How about this for a theory:
Have you ever played Monopoly?
I’ve played games where I gain everything.
I own all the hotels on all my properties, I have shedloads of ‘money’ and, quite frankly, I’m a bit bored and complacent.
So I get reckless.
I take chances that I would never normally take in my quest for complete domination of the board.
My recklessness costs me the game I thought was already mine.
Yo see the parallel?
There’s a very revealing PKD short story called ‘War Game’ where children play a kind of reverse Monopoly where the object is to give all your property away.
Islamic terrorists romped across the US for a decade before 9/11/2001–LA Times, Oct. 14, 2001 Oct. 14, 2001, “Haunted by Years of Missed Warnings,” LA Times, by Stephen Braun, Bob Drogin, Mark Fineman, Lisa Getter, Greg Krikorian, Robert J. Lopez, Times Staff Writers “Evidence has been neglected. Earlier this year [2001], for example, French experts gave an in-depth report on Bin Laden’s financial network to a senior FBI official, according to a source close to the French intelligence community. A month later, the FBI official admitted to his French colleagues that the document still had not been translated into English.… [About 6 months before the first World Trade Center attack on Feb. 26, 1993], “The U.S. government was pretty sure Ahmad Mohammad Ajaj was a terrorist from the moment he stepped foot on U.S. soil. The 26-year-old Palestinian’s suitcases were stuffed with fake passports, fake IDs and a cheat sheet on… Read more »
That’s all propaganda to make you believe in Islamic terrorism. Orlando was a staged event. See https://153news.net/search_result.php?query=orlando&type=videos&cbsearch=
Mueller and Comey were employed to edit the narrative as required , a service no longer required . Millions of Winston Smiths rewrite every event from every possibly profitable angle that will get them a few bucks on the Internet . GIGO makes finding political truths on the Internet unlikely .
Well said, Winston.
There is one area of 9/11 and in particular WT7 that is probably open to more scientific approach, given advances in technology.
MIT showcased a method of exagerating small movements in video, the original code released onto the world, some 10yrs+ ago.
https://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/vidmag/#code
I wonder if it could be applied to the footage of WT7, and whether it would bring out evidence of controlled demolition charges going off?
There’s enough evidence about 9/11, 7/7, Gladio, and a dozen other false flags, evidence isn’t the problem. Getting anyone with any clout to look at it honestly, and do something about it, is the problem.
Has a Grand Jury yet been subpoenaed after all the efforts of the independent legal professionals? It does seem to be have been kicked down the road numerous times….
Exactly.
Integral part of the neoliberal paradigm.
Unwritten laws, unspoken rules: rules based order.
You don’t need it. Fire and CD are not confusable and especially not in the case of WTC-7. CD screams from every pore of the collapse. It’s very, very obvious.
There they sit, in their palaces, castles, mansions, towers, villas, ranches, private jets and yachts looking down on us useless eaters, puzzled and pissed off in equal measure.
“How the hell can any of that rabble be happy? Why are so many of them laughing, singing, dancing, playing, hugging and God forbid, making Love? It’s disgusting! “
“They don’t have the right. They aren’t wealthy! They don’t have control over tens of thousands of slaves and mindless consumers!”
“They don’t deserve happiness.
None of them.”
“Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time they were all brought to heel”
“Any suggestions?”
The elite (for lack of another description) spend millions if not billions of $$$ on the media, internet etc. trying to make us believe that they are omnipotent. Which leads this scrutinizer to think that they are not. I do believe that they do let things slip and that there is a method at work. The elite wish to divide us so they deliberately allow those of us who are paying attention to catch a glimpse of their “modus operandi”. That way they can pit the unknowing vs so called conspiracy theorists (who have been paying attention). I also believe that the “in plain sight” is their way of taunting those of us who pay attention whilst they laugh at those who are oblivious. Ego is a strange thing. That being said when we read in the paper or on the internet that this governmental agency screwed up doing something… Read more »
There’s only two words needed to prove that ‘the elite’ are not omnipotent: THE TALIBAN.
The military asymmetry was phenomenal, yet for whatever reason, the USA elites had their butts kicked.
No way an omnipotent Deep State could have suffered that sort of indignity….
Unless they are secretly into BDSM submission and wanted to be flogged in public just this once….
I think they wanted to get out, but the way they did was not how they wanted it to be seen. US Presidents are just frontmen, but Biden is the frontman of a system in decay and it shows.
The Taliban have been so useful to CIA and gunrunners that they have been given an encore performance , all Afghanis must attend , face masks not required to be worn by men , vaccine passports not required either.
The vicious response to Palestinians breaking out of jail is one example – it interferes with the “we control everything” mentality the PTB try to foster, in this case the Israelis.
The Petra named by Catte is me and this is my response – I’d appreciate if it could be pinned. Never have I said anything about the power elite’s infallibility to support my claim that WTC-7’s collapse was very deliberately in-your-face or that their alleged infallibility was the reason for any other glaring anomalies. I was unaware of the myth of the power elite’s alleged infallibility and if I were aware I wouldn’t subscribe to it – it’s not that I think they’re fallible or infallible, it’s just that their infallibility or otherwise is not relevant to my argument. As I said in a comment on the article preceding this one in response to a comment about the “awkward moment” of the pre-announcement of WTC-7’s collapse: https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/16/watch-false-flags-the-secret-history-of-al-qaeda-part-1/#comment-431422 ‘No awkward moments in psyops. All glaring anomalies are deliberate examples of “revelation of the method” / “hidden in plain sight”… and, if… Read more »
Never have I said anything about the power elite’s infallibility to support my claim that WTC-7’s collapse was very deliberately in-your-face You never used the words “they are infallible”, but when you say “…all glaring anomalies are deliberate examples of “revelation of the method”” you are saying the same thing in different words. Adding “and, if they’re not deliberate, if they’re a genuine screwup, how would you know.” is just weird. So, because you can’t tell if your sweeping claim is true or totally bogus just assume it’s true? No doubt, the power elite caught on millennia ago that – simply due to the nature of power – their screwups could pass and so – as they say in the IT world – they decided to make a feature of the bug – because not only could their screwups pass… The power elite know from vast experience that they can… Read more »
Unfortunately, sometimes I say what I don’t exactly mean. I do believe that every single glaring anomaly I point out is, in fact, deliberate, I don’t believe any of them are accidental (but, of course, I can’t vouch for every one) but then, as I say, for 9/11 really every single thing is anomalous, isn’t it? Every single thing. Pre-announcing WTC-7’s collapse is no more anomalous than not one interceptor being sent for the four alleged hijacked planes in the world’s best-defended airspace, is it? The former is no more anomalous than the latter it’s just that the former seems completely gratuitous while the latter is required for their story. If interceptors were sent it would make it harder to explain why they didn’t perform their function than if they simply never approached their target – or whatever – who knows why they didn’t include interceptors being sent in their… Read more »
Yeah, you should probably work on that
As we all should , Wittgenstein pointed out that language is an impediment to understanding , certainly true in politics .
“there would have been no way to avoid the massive “interceptor” anomaly.”
The contrast with what happened when golfer Payne Stewart’s plane stopped responding and events on 9/11 is glaring:
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/26/sports/golf-pro-golfer-and-5-others-die-in-a-baffling-jet-accident.html
Very strange story, Edwige. It seems hard to believe a plane would stay aloft for so long without control somehow but then I know nothing about aeronautics.
Only for dills like you, I’m afraid.
A Critical Review of WTC ‘No Plane’ Theories
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200610/Salter.pdf
Love it, Cliff. Well, no doubt you have no interest but just in case you do I’ve put up an Occam’s Razor challenge to the believers in the plane crashes for 10 points favouring the hypothesis that four plane crashes weren’t faked. It’s been up for a few years now and no one’s responded. Your chance to be the first. Of course, I’ve presented my 10 points (with a few extras) favouring the hypothesis of four faked plane crashes which no one has pointed out any errors in that I can think of. Also, a chance for you to rubbish if you feel so inclined.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/5000-challenge.html
How about you try refuting what Salter says about WTC1 and WTC2? I can tell you right now that you don’t have a snowflake’s chance in Hell.
‘any errors that I can think of’ 😂🤣😂
If you prefer to stay in your snug little land of fairy tales that’s fine by me, but you’d better watch out for the bunyips.
That Salter piece is pretty weak actually. If there were really no planes the only contradictory eye witness testimony would have been negative, viz “I didn’t see a plane”, and we actually have plenty of people on the ground saying that. It just doesn’t make much impact beside people saying they DID see something.
Also, what about quite suggestive evidence such as the nose out footage and the claims a passenger jet literally could not perform in the way alleged in order to hit the towers?
I’m not claiming there were no planes, and I get why people prefer to ignore the question as a troll-point and a distraction that can never be proven either way, but don’t pretend the issue is a slam dunk when it isn’t.
Did you actually read the whole of the Salter article? Doesn’t look like it.
Are you able to point me to any video, any video at all, that shows anything other than a plane approaching and/or hitting WTC1 or WTC2?
Yep, it’s a “slam dunk”. 😁
Cliff, I do what Kary Mullis suggests a scientist do: I try to prove my hypothesis wrong That is, I look at all the arguments put forward for any competing hypotheses to ensure that they aren’t favoured over the hypothesis I think tends to be favoured and I also check that there is no evidence that contradicts my chosen hypothesis. That’s it! It doesn’t mean I will always be correct, that’s for sure, because I know I’ve misinterpreted evidence but the more I do it the better I am at it I think, especially since I’ve become much wiser to their propaganda methods. You must look at all the evidence and all the different arguments for and against and check your favoured hypothesis against any competing hypotheses to see which fits the evidence best. The first argument Salter puts forward is of the logical fallacy type, argument from incredulity. He… Read more »
Yep, “absolute nonsense” like no planes hitting WTC1 and WTC2. Holograms? ROFL
You haven’t properly refuted anything in Salter’s article, in fact it looks very much like you’ve had trouble comprehending most of it, particularly his expert analysis of the videos that supposedly support the “fake planes” fairy tale.
Better luck next time, not that I’ll be returning to this thread again only to see you once more saying nothing worthwhile in way too many words.
You really do try too hard, poor thing.
You can assert I haven’t refuted but clearly I have. Salter claims that videos and photographs clearly show a 767 when clearly all we can determine is a “plane object”.
To defend his clear 767 you need to state what about the imagery shows a 767 as opposed to any other kind of plane. When you do that I’ll sit up and pay attention … but of course it cannot be done.
You seem to miss the fact that entire narratives have unravelled…
And that 20 yrs later it seems to have made no difference weather it was an intentional mistake or a regular screw-up.
If you want to cling to the position that the difference between…
‘the Parasite Class can be brought to justice by recognising their mistakes can be used as hard evidence‘
and the view…
‘these are intentional mistakes’
that the difference does matter,
maybe you’d like to provide an example where hard evidence has brought any central bank/BIS/WEF share owner to justice.
Exactly!
I guess the crucial distinction is between whether all apparent “screw-ups” in a conspiracy or deliberate or whether some are. The latter seems to me to be a much more tenable position. In the case of Hani Hanjour I remember reading that he drew the wings of a plane backwards (i.e. like a “V” with the point at the bottom facing the tail) in one of his flight school classes, amongst other things– he was that comically inept at all things aeronautical. I think Petra’s right to be dubious that this is the individual who supposedly executes the remarkable crash into the Pentagon in the official story. I too sometimes wonder if there’s a message in that utterly improbable narrative; is there a nudge and a wink by the conspirators? Are they throwing it in our faces? On the other hand I am also reminded of Ward Churchill and one… Read more »
Roger, everything single thing about the Pentagon crash is ludicrous in the extreme, including the attending of the alleged injured people they show us – miles away from the actual building and so many people tending to so few injured with loads of people standing around.
Anyone who wishes to dispute the fakery of this photo please offer anything that you think favours its reality over fakery rather than try to simply argue for the possibility of it being real. Possibility of real can no doubt be argued for but there are many other points that favour fake over real while there is nothing I’ve found that favours the other way – so this is the context that this photo needs to be analysed in.
I always remember this website from 2004. The Creepy Sides of the 911 Truth Movement http://www.angieon911.com/id24.html “There’s also been another possible motive for the 9-11 attacks that I’ve speculated about since the beginning. Have you ever wondered why the 9-11 official story was so implausible and so sloppily put together? (you know, the simultaneous hijacking of four different planes by people armed with mere boxcutters, the suicide notes found in luggage that inadvertently didn’t make it on the planes, Arabic flight manuals left in cars in the airport, and a million other things they did which seem like obvious plants, or things they didn’t do or create which would have squelched many of the 9-11 skeptics early on.) It’s as if they want us to see through the whole thing. Could the perpetrators, in fact, want a 911 Truth Movement to flourish? And if so, why? Perhaps the perpetrators… Read more »
I came across that website relatively recently and tried to contact Angie but no response. It’s amazing the little gems you can dig up from years ago where the writers seem to have simply disappeared. Gerard Holmgren didn’t disappear, unfortunately, he died from a brain tumour.
I can see I got a few dislikes on simply posting that, which is pathetic.
I will certainly consider such higher octave perspectives whenever holes in the deep state events come across so blatantly. Dislikes be damned.
Oh no, you never pay attention to dislikes. Generally, anyone who isn’t bothered to put why they dislike something and simply “dislikes” has no credibility in my opinion.
YT channel Quantum Of Conscience has defined these failings as
“pissed on breadcrumbs”: questions leading to more questions/assumptions/
affirmation but never a smoking gun. Merely the promise.
3 can keep a secret when 2 of them are dead?
Excellent. Let’s hope their hubris will be their downfall…. (and that the collateral damage to humanity won’t be extreme). Meanwhile, we carry on fighting for our lives and trying to wake up as many souls as will listen.
We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.
-Karl Rove
Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
-Henry Kissinger
Only for warty old goats like Kissinger is power an aphrodisiac , and perhaps a class of lazy and insipid women ?
Spot on analysis of the minds of megalomaniacs. The specific diagnoses of their psychoses aren’t important, just the fact that they are so far from being normal that they are completely unaware of all sorts of “blind spots” and “tells” that are evident to any normal person paying attention. Yes, the very thing that makes them so cunning and evil is also the thing that can unwittingly destroy them.
The Art of the Con
They count on a percentage of the masses figuring it out but it takes a while and by then they’ve bit off most of the apple and are on to the next con.
We seem to be raising our discernment but they still are able to take advantage of the delay in us figuring it out.
I like the reference to psychopath syndrome: the internet encourages people to emphasise the psychopath traits. As the individuals are not face to face, they communicate through a screen, the level of empathy is reduced, the glibness and superficiality is increased, the lying is increased, the level of fear is reduced (basically to nothing) and when bored or their lies are found out, they can drop out and just move on to a new set of contacts. I am sure that more “normal” people also indulge themselves in activities that, due to the reduced fear and empathy, they would not dare get involved with in real life, such as sadism porn, child porn and other antisocial activities.
The emphasis of psychopathic traits online has to influence how people behave in real life.
Psychopaths – sociopaths in a civilised society – get ahead and become dominant. Their ambitions keep growing. One historic response was assassination.
Yep look at this latest Oz sub debacle.
So-called allies squabbling.
The USA Protectorate, Australia, contains a number of Foreign Military Bases. As the USA war drumbeats grow more insistent, the USA’s Enemy-of-the-Moment might decide to “take out” one, or a few of those outer-lying targets as a warning to the USA to back off.
The Protectorates stance has long been “All The Way With The USA !”
The post WW2 bond between the two is enshrined in the 1951 ANZUS Treaty. Shockingly, most Aussies dont know it doesnt guarantee that the USA will come to the Protectorates defense if it is attacked by whichever is the USA’s current Enemy-of-the-Moment.
As bad as the US is, its beating heart is its “ally” the UK monarchy which presently is Queen Elizabeth. The US political class sees royals sitting on thrones in UK and elsewhere, above the law and certainly with no fear of peasants. Self appointed US elites have long believed we should treat them as if they were royals, and the fact that we don’t drives them into a rage. So they figured a way to marginalize us by converting us into a new breed of human being, born into slavery of the global war industry. Most especially we’re enslaved to the British Empire as if 1776 never happened. The British Empire has the same will but they lack the military. Enter US slaves. Woodrow Wilson sent us “over there” in WWI which was massively profitable for Wall St., FDR was thrilled to sneak weapons to the UK, knowing that… Read more »
Ernest Callenbach’s Ecotopia (1975) was about the idea of the USA breaking up, with the West coast states, specifically California, breaking away. Curiously interesting, though left-leaning, novel. Always have wondered why ‘the left’ ignored it…(I recall the anarchist Fifth Estate publication panned it.)
No need to consider being attacked. Aus is cutting “off its nose” to show its loyalty. China will keep tightening the screws, when it is ready for each step. Maybe a cull of the population by jab will become a necessity.
Given how much our Quarry Economy depends on China’s need for Australia’s raw materials, only a politician is capable of believing threatening China wont have consequences.
I’ve floated a theory about 9/11 which tries to take into account the notion of ‘you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs’ and the idea that any plan, no matter how meticulously worked out, is always going to be subject to chance and unforeseen circumstance. If we work back from the premise that the goal was the passing of the Patriot Act then its logical to assume that there should be a large scale outrage to provide the momentum to rapidly pass it ‘sight unseen’. For me the ‘unforeseen’ was the scale and success of the WTC attacks. Previous attacks like the 1993 WTC bombing were serious but ultimately didn’t do much damage so its reasonable to suppose that the elites, whoever they were, knew that the Black Sheep of the bin Laden family was up to something but they were not sure what it was, the specifics weren’t… Read more »
How did bin Laden bring down two 500,000 ton steel and concrete buildings ?
By inspiring Saudi jihadis to hi-jack two airliners and fly them into the shoddily constructed bankster towers , causing them to collapse . Short answer but all that’s really needed to make sense of the whole business . What happened in the halls of power globally immediately after is what is important and we are constantly diverted from discussing that .
Don’t happen to have a credible source for that “shoddily constructed”, do you Jimmy?
That is history as the undemocratic elites of Australia take US money to turn their island into a launch pad for US military might, and also make them a top target. More white collar crime, those new country houses for Morrison and his family. Not Gods, crooks!
White collar crime is so rampant, and getting worse, that society cannot survive. There is no saving democratic society from its criminals, we are headed for the drain, but the important thing to realise is that that white collar lawlessness will bring violence to a street near you in the near future. You think someone too poor to feed his family is going to starve or, with nothing to lose and not being a drugged up homeless person, will not take up violence and feed his family with your food or even you? I don’t know when it started, but it became obvious with government bailouts after financial crashes – no enforcement followed – which then encouraged more bailouts, which encouraged more schemes and scams which again, because it was white collar crime, resulted in the victims losing everything and the villains being effectively pardoned. White collar crime was deemed… Read more »
I just call it something else – corruption. White collar crime is a sub-set of corruption. Because the corruption of everything within a society is beyond criminal: it is endemic. It affects everyone sooner or later.
Law enforcement – even if it existed except in name only – can do nothing about corruption. The human heart/soul/mind has become corrupt through its reliance on mechanistic approaches to doing virtually everything.
The only rational societal maxim should be: “how will this affect living beings.” Yet we know that has been moved to the very bottom rung of consideration. And “how will this help enrich me” has taken its place at the top rung.
And I don’t think that they are ‘gods’ – I just think that we are stupid 🙂
https://syllamo.blogspot.com/2020/05/its-because-were-stupid.html
Be sure to follow through the links for full context.
Perhaps more needs to be taken into context when discussing such things. Firstly there is the programming which we have all been doused in all of our lives (eg. that it is only this or that). B) That this is perhaps the endgame of a plan hatched hundreds of years ago. And many many more things which are intertwined to nudge our opinions and even what we consider ‘knowledge’ – so who are we really anyways? So I think you are both over simplifying this as the programming dictates – perhaps this Petra is simply afraid for she sees no way out and can actually contextualize more than this author to reach her conclusion. And perhaps the author simply NEEDS to believe that ‘good will triumph over evil’ if we are all just ‘positive’ about things (again, this/that thinking). It is an interesting ride for sure and maybe some honest… Read more »
Forgot to add:
That we also must seriously consider that we may lose this ‘battle’ and that not being able to discuss such things honestly may hasten our demise.
Instead, many like to bicker about the little things and are eager to tear someone down. To their level perhaps?
Divided we fall remember – where are we now?
It is white collar crime. Without a CCP to act as God, clip the wings of the billionaires and introduce enforcement, how can you do anything but lose?
The author does not say “good will triumph over evil”. In fact she says the exact opposite right there in the text. Try reading again.
Thanks for the clarification
It is really about those which think that others are just too ‘negative’ in their thinking which spreads to the point of actually killing discussion – the censorship of our selves has many levels.
At which point do we stop being puppets in the “Age of the Mass Debaters: Where we really didn’t learn anything except how to tear each other down” and begin to create the better hearts within which will create the better world without?
That is the crux of my message – even if misplaced.
Ethics is Intelligence
Of course their not infallible.. They are only (allowed) to do so much, and the time allotted. If they were, we would have already been in the NWO back in late 90’s or early 2000’s…
The LORD is still on HIS Throne, and HE decides what happens, and when it happens…
This sort of “infallible elite” extends to the John F. Kennedy assassination too. Many a researcher has gone down the rabbit-hole of trying to make sense of some small coincidence or fuck-up in the complex story, many mountains created out of molehills, much ink spilled trying to explain how even those things that appear to point to a conspiracy were supposedly part of the plan all along. One common mistake is looking at the early life of Lee Harvey Oswald and trying to diagram out the JFK plotters’ machinations back into 1960, 1957, 1954 or earlier… before JFK was even in office. The complicated, mostly bogus “Harvey and Lee” theories of John Armstrong often lead readers into this trap. One current tendency in research looks at the shooting of Dallas office J.D. Tippit as a local crime wholly unrelated to the assassination that coincided with it chronologically. Why, some have… Read more »
How many what hit what ?
On 9/11 in NYC two planes hit two buildings. Three buildings collapsed.
The question is, why did that third building (Building 7) that was not hit by a plane, then collapse into its own footprint like the other two did?
How do you know the towers were hit by planes ?
How do you know they weren’t?
This is much better info than any of the crap you’ve obviously been reading and/or watching:
A Critical Review of WTC ‘No Plane’ Theories
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200610/Salter.pdf
Oswald’s story is amazing and reveals so much. It shows that cold war was a hoax.
His befriending by CIA connected Ruth Paine who found him the Book Depository job three weeks before the murder is as astounding part of the plot. Paine also told the authorities that Oswald stored a rifle at their house. Her role in connecting the patsy to the crime is pivotal .
It all comes down to narrative control. And in this century, the narrative control is more than adequate for Psychopaths – in – charge. Who was it said “you don’t have to convince all of the people all of the time, you only have to convince enough of the people enough of the time” When they lose control of the narrative these days, it’s far simpler to silence critique than plug the glaring plot holes. We see that now more than ever with twitter etc & covid. Or simply throw out some distraction when they make obvious fuckups. Anyone remember “Operation Monica”? The nazi propaganda engine – and our own current situation – illustrates how with enough reinforcement, sheeple will believe in the absurd, or at very least they’ll play along with no resistance. This is not a phenomenon of recent times, it’s probably how history has been made for… Read more »
Before I begin, the Home Page does not show the picture to this article. Maybe just my computer….? This thought just occurred to me about the imbecility of The Elite: which clown even dreamt up the scenario that little aluminium aircraft could bring down huge steel and concrete buildings. Doubtless, the idea would be part of some computer game and thus it was an idea which existed in the minds of pimply geeks (the same imbecilic inbreeds who are drawn to the ranks of the CIA). But the geeks never thought to ask any semi-competent engineer or architect who would have told them that their ideas were preposterous. (N.B. just as the architect profession cowered before the propaganda, so today the entire medical, scientific, academic and journalistic professions likewise cower down before such arrant ‘pandemic’ nonsense). Where the elites score highly therefore is in their intimate understanding of the Human… Read more »
Some people have passed masters at copy/paste
Silver anyone?
Just when I began to get my hopes up, there was this: “And of course they’re in no danger of ending up on death row because, unlike hapless antifreeze guy, they own the judiciary, legal system and entire political class so the incentive to try hard isn’t even there.”
And, finally, there are all those Petras who believe.
Still no light at the end of the tunnel.
There are two bodies of law.
Senator Lindsey Graham Questions Brett Kavanaugh Military Law vs Criminal Law during war on terror
Sep 2018
What about the antifreeze (PEG) in the covid jab, now in billions of people?
For the most comprehensive view what happened on 9/11 this book is well worth finding,
Where Did the Towers Go by Dr Judy Wood
I don’t wish to be officious here, but “comprehensive” is not a good adjective to describe Dr Wood’s book. She categorically rules out the possibility of any agency but directed energy weapons – notwithstanding an abundance of evidence for the possibility of controlled demolition.
I believe Dr Wood’s contribution to the overall narrative is significant; but it doesn’t render every other contribution meaningless. Nor does it allow for anything else – which a truly “comprehensive” work would.
Enlighten yourself:
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200702/Implausibility-Directed-Energy-Beam-Demolish-WTC-by-Gregory-Jenkins.pdf
aren’t they permenantly taking liberties at the expense of others, playing the people ?….Don’t the masses repeatedly succumb to the same few misleaders who only need to change their costume to maintain their influence. And could they, the PTB, evaluate the mental make-up of the plebs with increasingly conspicious examples of trickery in order to measure the disposition of the masses… structure their level of attack and timing of their offensive – I think the answer is an obvious, Yes.
It’s a flaw in human nature to require any kind of human leader or misleader. Why elevate any other mortal human being above yourself, whose span of years is not dissimilar to your own?
And particularly why elevate someone who is simply greedy for such a status (likely from an early sense of inferiority), or who has otherwise developed such a need to dominate over other human beings?
So don’t blame them. Blame ourselves. What is it in us that makes us pander to such creatures? Why do we need another human to ‘look up to’?
I think it’s somewhere in the OT that the introduction of a ‘King’ was shown to be a bad idea. Previously all people were subservient only to their Creator.
Better that we return to that model.
Why? Because people refuse to take responsibility.
le Roi Soleil,chosen by divinity….to Sin against them is to sin against the creator. A preposterous proposal, but an effective one for this Church of man that survives by adoration, though not from the heretical enemy that seeks to distance themselves from the repressive order, one that relies on a subservient and dormant audience to maintain its importance.
‘Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.’ – Denis Diderot
The banksters are at the apex of the pyramid. Cheka and the gulags dwarfed anything the Czar did.
WTC 7 was one of the three masonic towers. WTC 1 & 2 were the other two.
All three had to be felled.
Father, Son, & Holy Ghost.
I never knew there was a building 7 collapse. Not until coming to this site more than a year ago. We had lives to live when it happened. We moved on and forgot about it. I have no idea how I even found off-guardian. I assume I was already in another rabbit hole and started following links. That attack happened 20 years ago. They got away with it. Was it anticipated that something like this might happen and were the demolition charges preinstalled during the original construction or some time later? I don’t know. I don’t care. The nitty gritty details don’t matter. Why they ever would have sacrificed building 7 matters. I can’t remember if people died in that building. Did I skim past that information? If I did, sorry. It really makes sense that the buildings were rigged in advance but it does not make sense that they… Read more »
check these out:
https://syllamo.blogspot.com/2020/04/i-am-your-ruler.html
https://syllamo.blogspot.com/2020/04/mind-of-ruler.html
Your reasoning is too convoluted.
Con-911 has all the signs of an Anglo Zionazi Capitalist false flag atrocity, with the Zionazi component predominant: Firstly, to “take out” 7 countries on Israel’s endless list of “existential enemies” within 5 years of 2001. Secondly, to make money from oil contracts, arms contracts, insurance contracts and insider dealing. Thirdly, to consolidate The War of Terror against the people of the free world.
Con-19 is a much bigger Con-spiracy than Con-911, because in Con-19 the Capitalist component is predominant: Money and Power. Money as Power: Con-19 as digital control, leading to Con-B3.
“I care not who writes the Laws so long as I Con-trol the Currency” — Meyer Rothschild.
Little things like regard for the lives, health and wellbeing of the people play no part in these Con-spiracies.
In Con-19, (a) GloboCap eliminates the problem of unpayable debt owed to it (b) stays out of jail after wrecking the planet, the economy and our health (c) eliminates most of us.
Tony is that you?
I always remember this website from 2004. The Creepy Sides of the 911 Truth Movement http://www.angieon911.com/id24.html It certainly got me thinking. Even smooth well-oiled machines breakdown occasionally, but you simply cannot describe this level of conspiracy as anything other than a well-oiled machine. Remember, even considering the glaring cock-ups, they have a hierarchy of scapegoats to misdirect attention onto and often this IS intentional. “There’s also been another possible motive for the 9-11 attacks that I’ve speculated about since the beginning. Have you ever wondered why the 9-11 official story was so implausible and so sloppily put together? (you know, the simultaneous hijacking of four different planes by people armed with mere boxcutters, the suicide notes found in luggage that inadvertently didn’t make it on the planes, Arabic flight manuals left in cars in the airport, and a million other things they did which seem like obvious plants, or things… Read more »
Only the truly perspicacious will realise that 9/11 was directed at them.
The Goebbels – Biden quote reminds me of Michael Velli’s book ‘Manual for Revolutionary Leaders. A compilation of quotes by leaders of various working class vanguard parties in The West and their comparison with similar quotes uttered by Stalin, Hitler, Mao et al. The same quotes being uttered by all who would be our leaders, regardless of the political packaging they come in.(Always, always, offering “Security”)
It’s going to be Biblical! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feet_of_clay Feet of clay is an expression now commonly used to refer to a weakness or character flaw, especially in people of prominence. The phrase derives from the interpretation of the dream of Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, by the prophet Daniel as recounted in the Book of Daniel: Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. (Daniel 2:31-33) … Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw… Read more »