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WATCH: 9/11 Truth – Lessons Learned?

Today, there’s an entire generation who have grown up in the shadow of the towers. Who have never known a world that was not haunted by the hobgoblin of terrorism.

Who have never thought twice about giving up the freedoms they barely knew they had in the name of fighting the “invisible enemy.”

How can we blame them for not understanding the gravity of this moment, today, giving up those few freedoms that remain in the name of fighting the new phantom menace?

Links, sources and shownotes – plus a transcript and audio-only version – are available here.

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George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 9:55 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2021/09/waiting-for-godot-beckett-delta-variant/620033/

The Atlantic now draws parallels between Beckett’s Waiting for Godot and covid. Godot never arrives … and you can see where this one’s going.

In line with the chronic and clearly never ending covid whoring of the media, we are assured of “important milestones …ahead” by which we are to gather signs of hope. And what are these blessed deliverances? They are

  • “vaccine authorization for young kids,
  • a sustained nationwide lifting of restrictions,
  • the expansion of vaccine access around the globe”.

Note how the middle one is the only one that anyone cares about but the other two hugely questionable and indeed downright objectionable ones are smuggled in. But anyway – back to Beckett. We are to ask ourselves 

“(I)s our desire for the end of the pandemic a desire to reestablish not just our day-to-day routines but also to return to all the distraction and noise that allow us not to think about the meaning of life? This is not to say that the pandemic is a good thing, but it’s an opportunity to ask, what if the thing you’re waiting for never arrives? What if instead of waiting, you act or think differently instead of trying to go back to the way things were?”

Now this has a familiar ring, does it not? “Stop thinking about the end of the pandemic!” which is an echo of that suspicious “Leftist” sentiment expressed suspiciously early: “Going back to the way things were is the worst thing that could happen!”

Oh no! There is no going back. They have been telling us that from the start! 

After which an interesting bit about the “theatre of the absurd” – which is a pretty good description of what the media has been giving us for the last 18 months. But note how this theatre is interpreted:

 “The philosophy of absurdism in the literature and plays of that postwar era recognizes the meaninglessness of existence, but it does not flee from it—it flees towards it. Part of the philosophy of absurdism is that humans have an innate desire for meaning, which comes into conflict with the fact that there is no deeper meaning in the world, nothing to tell us what to do or how to live. So absurdity happens in that confrontation between our desire for meaning and the absence of meaning. And in some ways, that’s what Godot’s arrival is: We’re constantly looking for meaning and it never comes.”

Note how this little bit of pseudo profundity plays so well into the hands of the overlords. “Don’t expect to make sense of any of this! Life is just crazy! Assassinations just happen! Terrorism just arrives out of the blue! Nothing to do with us!”

And this is echoed here:

“There are feelings of frustration, anxiety, anger, but no clear object or person to direct the anger towards. They’re angry at their existential situation, and then Beckett shows how that plays out in interpersonal relationships.”

We are then told this dubious little “factoid”:

“Early in the pandemic, readers in lockdown made Albert Camus’ novel The Plague a best seller because it helped to explain something about living in a plague, even though it was a novel that was really an allegory about Nazism and the French Resistance during World War II. If Camus was a good touchstone for the beginning of the pandemic, then Waiting for Godot seems like an excellent one for the era of the Delta variant.”

You’ll pardon me if I’m always suspicious about claims about what book that “readers made popular”. And if the Camus book was “really an allegory about Nazism and the French Resistance during World War II” then it’s remarkable that such a book with its alleged wartime connection should become so “popular” at the beginning of a “pandemic” whose aim is clearly to re-establish that good old blitz spirit. And I am equally suspicious about drawing “contemporary significance” from Godot.

And note the link below,

“‘Post-Vax COVID’ Is a New DiseaseEventually we might all have to deal with COVID-19—but a shorter, gentler version, thanks to vaccines.”

I don’t have any more stamina to delve into shite tonight. But the title really says it all anyway. Can you honestly imagine anyone talking about “post vax covid” before the roll out of the supposedly life-saving and immunity conferring vax? So now the goal posts have been moved again. The vax wasn’t about eradicating covid but about making covid “gentler” with the implication that the vax will now be administered indefinitely

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 25, 2021 9:46 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Of course these creeps are too dishonest to mention (or too lazy to bother finding out) that Beckett risked his life working for the French Resistance when he could have retreated safely to neutral Ireland. When asked why he had done it, he replied, with typical succinctness: “Because I couldn’t bear what they [the Nazis] were doing to my friends.”

Eventually a member of the resistance cell was caught, and cracked under torture, revealing names. Beckett and his wife just barely escaped capture by the Gestapo in Paris and had to flee to the relatively safe rural south of France. Their struggles, jokes, squabbles & reconciliations on the road are said to have been the main source of inspiration for the dialogue of Vladimir and Estragon in Godot.

For his brave work, which he later dismissed as “Boy Scout stuff”, Beckett received the Croix de Guerre after WWII.

Worlds separate him from the hacks who chatter so glibly about “meaninglessness” and “absurdity”.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 22, 2021 3:12 PM

Can you say pf, pf… pfi-pants-gropist

Gates: “Well, Epstein, he’s ah dead… so, ah… ”
Translation: I got rid of him, so kids, dodgy scientists and transhumanism… you can’t ask about that.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LWgKKh0sG9f7/

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 22, 2021 9:53 AM

SECRECY SURROUNDS A BUSH BROTHER’S ROLE IN 9/11 SECURITY
by Margie Burns

Washington, D.C. WASHINGTON, Jan 19, 2003 — A company that provided security at New York City’s World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C., and to United Airlines between 1995 and 2001, was backed by a private Kuwaiti-American investment firm with ties to a brother of President Bush and the Bush family, according to records obtained by the American Reporter.

Two planes hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001 were United Airlines planes, and another took off from Dulles International Airport; two, of course, slammed into the World Trade Center. But the Bush Administration has never disclosed the ties of a presidential brother and the Bush family with the firm that intersected the weapons and targets on a day of national tragedy.

Marvin P. Bush, a younger brother of George W. Bush, was a principal in the company from 1993 to 2000, when most of the work on the big projects was done. But White House responses to 9/11 have not publicly disclosed the company’s part in providing security to any of the named facilities, and many of the public records revealing the relationships are not public.

Nonetheless, public records reveal that the firm, formerly named Securacom, listed Bush on its board of directors and as a significant shareholder. The firm, now named Stratesec, Inc., is located in Sterling, Va., a suburb of Washington, D.C., and emphasizes federal clients. Bush is no longer on the board.

Marvin Bush has not responded to repeated telephoned and emailed requests for comment on this story.

The American Stock Exchange delisted Stratesec’s stock in October 2002. Securacom also had a contract to provide security at Los Alamos National Laboratories, notorious for its security breaches and physical and intellectual property thefts.

According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center “up to the day the buildings fell down.” Yet instead of being investigated, the company and companies involved with it have benefited from legislation pushed by the Bush White House and rubber-stamped by Congressional Republicans. Stratesec, its backer KuwAm, and their corporate officers stand to benefit from limitations on liability and national-security protections from investigation provided in bills since 9/11.

HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc., a reinsurance corporation on whose board Marvin Bush sat as director until November 2002, similarly benefits from terrorism insurance protections. (Bush’s first year on the board at HCC coincided with his last year on the board at Stratesec.) HCC, formerly Houston Casualty Company, carried some of the insurance for the World Trade Center. It posted a loss for the quarter after the attacks of Sept. 11 and dropped participation in worker’s compensation as a result. Bush remains an adviser to the chairman and the Board of Directors, as well as a member of the company’s investment committee.

The former CEO of Stratesec is Wirt D. Walker III, who is still chairman of the board. Although he has also been the managing director of KuwAm for several years, Walker states definitively in phone interviews that there was no exchange of talent between Stratesec and KuwAm during the World Trade Center and other projects.

As Walker put it, “I’m an investment banker.” He continued, “We just owned some stock.” The investment company “was not involved in any way in the work or day-to-day operations” of the security company. He explained clearly and pleasantly that there was no sharing of information or of personnel between the two companies.

In December 2000 – when the outcome of the U.S. presidential election was determined – Stratesec added a government division, providing “the same full range of security systems services as the Commercial Division,” the company says. Stratesec now has “an open-ended contract with the General Services Administration (GSA) and a Blanket Purchase Agreement (BPA) with the agency that allows the government to purchase materials and services from the Company without having to go through a full competition.”

The company lists as government clients “the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice,” in projects that “often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites.” In 2000, the U.S. Army accounted for 29 percent of the company’s earned revenues, or about $6.9 million.

The White House opposed an independent commission to investigate 9/11 until after the terrorism insurance protections and protections for security companies had safely passed Congress. It has also quietly intervened in lawsuits against United Airlines in New York, brought by relatives of the victims.

Marvin Bush joined Securacom’s Board of Directors in 1993, as part of new management hired when the company separated from engineering firm Burns and Roe. The new team was capitalized by KuwAm, the D.C.-based Kuwaiti-American investment company. Bush also served on the Board of Directors at KuwAm, along with Mishal Yousef Saud al-Sabah, Chairman of KuwAm and also a Director on Securacom’s (Stratesec’s) board.

The World Trade Center and the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority – which operates Dulles – were two of Securacom’s three biggest clients in 1996 and 1997. (The third was MCI, now WorldCom.)

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a “single-source” provider of “end-to-end” security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

When, following the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey began its multi-million-dollar, multiyear revamping of security in and around the Twin Towers and Buildings 4 and 5, Securacom was among numerous contractors hired in the upgrade.

The companies doing security jobs received due mention in print, in security industry publications and elsewhere. The board membership of a son of former President Bush went unnoticed, at least in print.

According to SEC filings, Securacom/Stratesec acquired the $8.3 million World Trade Center contract in October 1996. The project generated 28 percent of all revenues for the company in 1996. SEC filings indicate that revenues from the World Trade Center project commenced in 1996 at $1.6 million, peaked in 1997 at $6.6 million ($4.1 million in the first half), and diminished in 1998 to less than $1 million.

A key concept in security is “access control.” In hindsight, as the security industry’s reportage on the World Trade Center precautions makes clear, further attacks would have to come from the air. Unfortunately, such detailed reports did not convey that message at home. Nobody thought outside the box enough to deduce that a jumbo jet could overcome even the extraordinary controls at the World Trade Center. With 20-20 hindsight, it is obvious that the intricate procedures in the building’s lobbies and on its perimeters were useless in trying to stop a 767 loaded with jet fuel.

Barry McDaniel, CEO of the company since January 2002, declines on security grounds to give specific details about work the company did at the World Trade Center. According to McDaniel, the contract was ongoing (a “completion contract”), and “not quite completed when the Center went down.” The company designed a system, but – as he points out – that obviously “didn’t have anything to do with planes flying into buildings.”

The key words “access control” are less feeble and irrelevant, however, in regard to airports and airlines. Had the hijackers failed on the ground, they would have lost their airborne weapon.

Two of the hijacked planes were United Airlines planes.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 22, 2021 3:59 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Hello Charlotte Ruse: Thank you for posting this article by Margie Burns. It is clear from other such investigations, that the Bush family was involved in the insurance portfolios and security agencies of suspect companies prior to 9/11/2001.

Businessman Larry A. Silverstein took possession of the World Trade Center complex just months before 9/11. The purchase was contingent upon specifying a double indemnity insurance clause. The policy was designed to include losses related to potential air craft impacts to Trade Centers properties… He collected over $4 billion in asset recovery, on a $250 million investment.

The former owner of the complex was the New York port authority. The port authority had concluded in 1994 that needed renovation and asbestos removal would make the Trade Centers complex an economic black hole.

Five buildings were destroyed by demolition charges the day of 9/11/2001. Few persons are aware of any such details…

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Sep 22, 2021 5:22 PM

The Book entitled: “Solving 9-11” discusses those who profited by insurance fraud and cites the intricate web of creeps who literally and figuratively made a “killing.” As Burns states, the key words are “access control.” Planes hit the building, but it does not preclude explosives planted throughout the towers. Sadly, it’s 9/11 and the needless wars which followed that led to the current COVID predicament. This is not to say a “digitalized” dictatorship was not going to occur, but 9/11 expedited the process.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 23, 2021 4:04 AM

“Planes hit the building”

May I have references ?

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 23, 2021 10:16 AM

As explained and even demo-ed ad nauseum,
:- it is not possible even for an expert to fly the 4 planes as claimed
:- the hijackers blamed were not even novice pilots
:- the planes and hijackers continued to exist afterwards
:- there are numerous other anomalies.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 23, 2021 11:32 AM
Reply to  mgeo

The official 9/11 narrative is NOT true.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 23, 2021 4:02 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Two of the hijacked planes were United Airlines planes.”

So it was bin Larden after all ?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 23, 2021 8:20 AM
Reply to  New Nane

Lol, is it possible for someone to be so ignorant.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 24, 2021 11:55 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

You believe in hijackers. And hijackers that obtained the controls and flew the airliners to their destinations. Feats never before achieved.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 24, 2021 12:37 PM
Reply to  New Nane

The official 9/11 narrative is untrue.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 23, 2021 7:54 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

“Access control… meant further attacks would have to come from the air.”

Rather It meant:

  • Team Bush had full control of who went into and out of the building from 1996
  • Extensive refurbishment work during that time
  • Israeli/Austrian students had a role but also provided distraction

Five years was plenty of prepare and lay the charges (duration of Securacom/Stratesec contract).

It’s well known that the elevator shafts underwent full renovation from 1994 up until September 2001.

One contract that gets less attention is in June 2001 EurekaGGN and subsidiary BRAM rewired the buildings with fiber optic cable – 750 miles of it in WTC1 alone. The work was due to be completed by fall, and WTC2 by yearend. NIST documents many of the repair works and opportunities for access but not this one.

The artists’ residency in the towers serves as a misdirection from the true extent of construction work that was going on — especially as all the artist ‘evidence’ is helpfully provided.

Gelitin and The B-Thing and The E-Team.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/08/watch-9-11-truth-on-the-19th-anniversary/#comment-236893

Artists sketch for The B-Thing
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Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 23, 2021 8:18 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yes, if you have “full security control” over several buildings it’s easier for an experienced team to plant explosives throughout the structures. The planes added just the right amount of terror.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 23, 2021 10:22 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The “art students may have designed or laid out the spectacular (but impossible) gashes that the “plane crashes” created on the sides of the Towers.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 24, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Undoubtedly. The plane shaped gashes by themselves proof that 9/11 was an inside job.

niko
niko
Sep 22, 2021 1:10 AM

Seems like one-upmanship all the way down when it comes to “Lessons Learned.”

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 10:18 PM

Since the beginning of covid the most remarkable thing for me is the inexorable spread of total boredom throughout the media – even to the “extreme reaches”.

Somewhere in GG Preparata, he notes the insidious vapidity of academic discourse, the grinding soullessness of it all – like a more severe version of the deadening joylessness of school curriculums through which every poor bastard passes – expectant children go in one end and completely desiccated husks emerge at the other. And these are the products our zombie workhouse requires for the delectation of the vampiric appetites at the top.

All of which was vaguely mitigated by what appeared to be a genuine opposition pre-covid but post-covid proves to be a total con. Now even the last vestiges of life have disappeared – at least from the mainstream, which has now proved to be far more all-embracing than previously thought. There is a desert out there now, an endless tundra in which the only sound seems a repetition of Pink Floyd’s “Is there anybody out there?” Thankfully there’s something “in here”. For which I once again thank OffG.

And I reckon I’m long overdue a revisit to past literature which I previously dismissed. Perhaps a visit to Antony Sutton and Carrol Quigley may provide some insights? Perhaps even one Jasun Horsley? He has written two books:

“Prisoner of Infinity: UFOs, Social Engineering, and the Psychology of Fragmentation” 

and

“The Vice of Kings: How Socialism, Occultism, and the Sexual Revolution Engineered a Culture of Abuse” 

I would once have given a wide berth to anything rubbishing “socialism” but, after the dismal showing of “the Left” over covid and their now unmistakable psychological conditioning with its partisan knee jerk reactions, I am prepared for some wider viewpoints.

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 11:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Mr Horsley looks to have had one completely f’ed up childhood. No wonder he dropped out and appears to spend his time looking for spiritual escape.

I have not read his stuff, but the titles look like he is writing to address his own experiences.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 22, 2021 8:29 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Somewhere in GG Preparata, he notes the insidious vapidity of academic discourse, the grinding soullessness of it all – like a more severe version of the deadening joylessness of school curriculums through which every poor bastard passes”

Very true, and not just of academia. I was just talking to someone about how the language of institutionalised medicine is designed to be maximally intimidating to the layman. The fact that everything is framed in Latin & Greek polysyllables creates a wall of illusory sciencey-ness between the “Gods in White” and the poor bamboozled patient. (Why say “pulmonary” rather than “lung”, or “myocardial” rather than “heart muscle”?) Often these impressive-sounding words are mere labels that explain nothing and merely simulate higher knowledge. This insiders’ jargon encourages doctors, especially in hospitals, to be patronising, dismissive and foolishly self-assured.

And then there’s the soul-deadening vocabulary of high finance, a barrier built to keep the peasants out.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 8:02 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

The jargon reaches its ultimate in the work of Theodore Adorno whose gobbledegook must surely stand as the ultimate “revenge” on the peasantry for not providing him with the revolution and relieving him of the troublesome task of working for it himself. Ironically, his dense impenetrable blether has the final effect of … nothing whatsoever. Struggle to the end of one of his books and you may feel a sense of triumph until you ask yourself, “What was all that about?” and realise you haven’t a fucking clue. Thus that branch of self-satisfied academic aesthetes squeezing the last juice out of their nice little gravy train and still posing as “socialist heroes”!

Trewpol
Trewpol
Sep 21, 2021 10:17 PM

Croatian Zoran President Milanović: We’re Fed up with COVID Frenzy, Life Should Go Back to Normal

“We should know the aim of all this frenzy. If anybody tells me that the aim is to completely eradicate coronavirus, I will tell them that this is insane. It is impossible. What matters now is adjustment and resumption of normal life,” Milanović told the press in his office.”

“The media frenzy over coronavirus is starting to grate on people’s nerves.”

He also finds it insane to advocate the “obsessive culture of safety”.

“No one can be absolutely safe and secure, there is no life without any risk or disease,”

Commenting on the high prevalence of this topic in foreign media outlets, such as CNN, Milanović said that each day he wondered “whether he is normal or whether they have gone mad.”

“This amounts to sowing panic, and they are not the only ones to have been doing that since the beginning (of the pandemic). Simply, there is no absolute safety that excludes any possibility of getting sick. People develop thousands of more serious diseases, while we have been commenting on COVID for a year and a half.”

In response to the comments from the press that Croatia’s vaccination rate has not exceeded 50%, Milanović said that he did not care any more about that, since this was a sufficient rate of vaccination.

“Everyone knows that… there is no chance of putting those people at risk,” the Croatian president said.

https://www.sott.net/article/458513-Croatian-President-Milanovic-We-re-Fed-up-with-COVID-frenzy-life-should-go-back-to-normal

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 21, 2021 11:03 PM
Reply to  Trewpol

Yes Zoran…it’s blatant madness. Blatant.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 11:21 PM
Reply to  Trewpol

Thanks, this helps explain why an acquaintance told me a couple of weeks ago that she is intending to move to Croatia as soon as possible!

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 22, 2021 12:59 AM
Reply to  Trewpol

I hope they don’t get him to die of convid.

watt
watt
Sep 22, 2021 3:31 PM
Reply to  New Nane

Yes. He wants to watch his back, now.

Hele
Hele
Sep 22, 2021 8:20 AM
Reply to  Trewpol

…finally someone as exasperated as us

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 22, 2021 8:56 AM
Reply to  Trewpol

Can we expect regime change in Croatia soon?

gordan
gordan
Sep 21, 2021 10:04 PM

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Willem
Willem
Sep 21, 2021 9:39 PM

The problem of intellectuals, described by Albert Camus, who said:

‘In a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.’

How intellectuals get away with siding with the executioners, is that they are not thinking. And yet, they don’t get away with it, because they are supposed to think..

This whole thing of normalizing jabbing, testing, social distancing, qr coding and silencing any discussion that might proof the intellectuals wrong is gonna haunt them the moment they start thinking.

Which is the reason why they don’t think.
Instead of thinking, they’re ‘feeling’.
By now, they’re feeling pretty scared, which can make them pretty aggressive, like fearful dogs.

How to train fearful dogs? Well, here is the dog whisperer’s way

‘A fearful dog does not need comforting and definitely does not need the human sharing in that fear. A fearful dog needs a calm, assertive leader. We can’t tell our dogs that everything is going to be okay with words, but we can definitely show them with our actions and energy.

Stay calm, and don’t be afraid.’

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 22, 2021 4:03 PM
Reply to  Willem

I think the definition of ‘intellectuals’ has changed over the last fifty years.
It now means ‘people who appear to think’.

Howard
Howard
Sep 22, 2021 7:02 PM
Reply to  Willem

Perhaps the least said – or quoted – about the dog whisperer the better. Or any “expert” for that matter.

ALL animal “experts” interpret and define animal behavior in terms of human behavior. From anything I’ve ever seen in “nature” documentaries (themselves highly suspect), it would seem the leader of a wolf pack asserts snarling, aggressive leadership which makes the “fearful” wolf more afraid of it than of anything else it may confront.

Rather than “dog whisperer,” I would call him/her/it/them “dog wishful thinkerers.”

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 21, 2021 9:22 PM

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Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 7:53 PM

So to start the next pandemic I just need a megaphone and dance like ‘shakin’ all over’, ‘the hippie hippie shake’ or ‘twitch of love’.

And we’re all infected.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 7:58 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Unfortunately you also need something which I am in awe of. This also applies to my previous facetious (but only barely) comment about a loudspeaker and the common cold. You need a contingent who can go on screen and – with straight face, mind! – pronounce the most brain shrivelingly testacle shrinking platitudes and manage to pack in a wracked sob right on cue. Yes – these people exist in multitudes. Where they come from I know not. Are they all the product of mind control from earliest years of child abuse? Well maybe there’s something in that.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 21, 2021 7:44 PM

Even before 9/11 happened there were Americans willing to believe that their governments were capable of such an atrocity. And I’m quite sure that some people had made up their minds while the towers were still standing and burning. 

That there are so many willing to believe 9/11 “truth” is in my opinion an indictment of American journalism and the American state. There is widespread corruption and dishonesty.

But even they are not capable of perpetrating an atrocity of the magnitude of 9/11 on their own soil.

The more dogmatic a narrative the more cult-like it’s followers appear. 9/11 truth is highly dogmatic. To an outsider it has an almost religious quality to it. The movement has converts to the cause. They are interviewed and speak openly about their journey and their conversion.

Those already on board speak warmly of the converts and are openly hostile to unbelievers, accusing them of blasphemy for taking issue with “the truth”.

Now, I know I say that narratives do not contain truth. I should clarify. I’m not saying that narratives are outright lies necessarily – though they may be. What I’m saying is that narratives can at best only describe events, they are not the events themselves.

That’s a subtle and important distinction.

Sometimes even a truthful commentator can get things wrong on occasion. An sometimes eyewitnesses will form a different impression of what happened in a particular event. And yes, there are often unanswered questions.

But this is why the strict adherence to a narrative is always a mistake. If you need to defend your narrative so fiercely then maybe there is something wrong with your narrative? Or is everyone that disagrees with you a Russian bot?

There is an alternative explanation for the collapse of WTC7, but you won’t entertain it because it doesn’t confirm your narrative.

I think that the fact that there are so many willing to believe 9/11 “truth” is an indictment of American journalism and the American state. There is too much dishonesty and cynical manipulation of ordinary Americans in the media and politics.

The media cried wolf in 2001 and many Americans did not believe them. In my opinion that is a very sad reflection on the state of the world and the United States in particular in the 21st century.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 7:51 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

I think

LOL. No.

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

OK, that’s hysterical. Thank you.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Even before 9/11 happened there were Americans willing to believe that their governments were capable of such an atrocity.

You clearly disagree.

And I’m quite sure that some people had made up their minds while the towers were still standing and burning.

What makes you “quite sure” about that?
 

That there are so many willing to believe 9/11 “truth” is in my opinion an indictment of American journalism and the American state. There is widespread corruption and dishonesty.

“widespread corruption and dishonesty” but not “truth”? . Certainly not this truth? Which isn’t a “truth” but a well-founded suspicion erected on the one certainty we have: That whatever happened it sure as hell wasn’t the official account.

But even they are not capable of perpetrating an atrocity of the magnitude of 9/11 on their own soil.

Why not? Is this one of the things you are “quite sure” about?

The more dogmatic a narrative the more cult-like it’s followers appear. 9/11 truth is highly dogmatic.

But “9/11 truth” – by which you mean 9/11 scepticism – is not dogmatic. Though that may be obscured by the appellation “truth”. And I wonder who came up with that?

To an outsider it has an almost religious quality to it. The movement has converts to the cause. They are interviewed and speak openly about their journey and their conversion.

Ah yes – the old “They’re a religion” angle. But you see, if you grasp the truth here – and this is a truth we can be certain about – then this “truth” movement is actually a sceptical movement. It is the official account that is the original assertion. Therefore the burden of proof falls on it! 

Those already on board speak warmly of the converts and are openly hostile to unbelievers, accusing them of blasphemy for taking issue with “the truth”.

Yes yes we know the old rote pseudo logic of the haughty self-assumed rational outsider!

 

Now, I know I say that narratives do not contain truth. I should clarify. I’m not saying that narratives are outright lies necessarily – though they may be. What I’m saying is that narratives can at best only describe events, they are not the events themselves.

And here we dive into the customary yacketty schmacketty psychobabble guff.

That’s a subtle and important distinction.

Oh I’m sure there is but I dozed off there.

Sometimes even a truthful commentator can get things wrong on occasion. An sometimes eyewitnesses will form a different impression of what happened in a particular event. And yes, there are often unanswered questions.

And now we are veering towards the purple clouds of “maybe this and maybe that and who knows anyway”.

But this is why the strict adherence to a narrative is always a mistake. If you need to defend your narrative so fiercely then maybe there is something wrong with your narrative? Or is everyone that disagrees with you a Russian bot?

Well sure. Why not ditch your “narrative” half way through and pick up another one and then ditch that one too. What the hell?

There is an alternative explanation for the collapse of WTC7, but you won’t entertain it because it doesn’t confirm your narrative.

Oh hang on! Is this an actual claim about actuality? Do go on! Oh … I see you don’t! 

I think that the fact that there are so many willing to believe 9/11 “truth” is an indictment of American journalism and the American state. There is too much dishonesty and cynical manipulation of ordinary Americans in the media and politics.

Umm – haven’t we been through this bit already? Or did I slip into one of your purple clouds of unknowing?

The media cried wolf in 2001 and many Americans did not believe them. In my opinion that is a very sad reflection on the state of the world and the United States in particular in the 21st century.

I resume your still referring to 9/11? Or does “cry wolf” refer to some Disney epic I missed out on? Hard to say amongst all this purple gas!

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 21, 2021 10:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Sometimes even a truthful commentator can get things wrong on occasion – And some have psychic powers of visualizing the future

The media cried wolf in 2001 – As someone who was living in NYC in 2001 – no they did NOT, if you’re ‘quite sure’ they did, kindly provide source links

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Sep 22, 2021 2:57 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Thanks

oubok
oubok
Sep 22, 2021 3:21 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Sliced and diced. Good job.

shamen
shamen
Sep 21, 2021 9:18 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

do remind me, arent you the one who thinks Pete shillken and PJW are journalists.

gordan
gordan
Sep 21, 2021 10:07 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

he so pretty
ohh
so pretty
so pretty so pretty and gay
keep um cumin boy
darling
i think i love you

oubok
oubok
Sep 22, 2021 3:22 PM
Reply to  gordan

You left out pretty vacant.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 22, 2021 11:02 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Are you ever spam checked ?

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 22, 2021 1:36 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

I know it’s a cheap shot but I can’t resist it. The name John Pretty reminded me of the Sex Pistols’ “Pretty Vacant”. Or to phrase it the way Mr Lydon did:

“We’re so Pretty
Oh so Pretty
Ah vaaay- CUNT-ah!”

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 22, 2021 1:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Speaking of which – and veering off into increasingly irrelevant territory – I recall John Peel, self proclaimed spokesman for the punk generation, telling us a long time after the punk thing, that “Holidays in the Sun” was the only Pistols song “that still stood up”. Thus the arrogance of DJs delivering their pronouncements for us lesser mortals. (It wouldn’t have been so bad if he’d simply presented this as an opinion in an interview but he clearly considers his word too important for such reticence.)

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 22, 2021 4:03 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Dear Mr Pretty: Your truth sucks wind. Get a life.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 7:29 PM

You must admit it is truly astonishing what they managed to achieve with only two ingredients: a loudspeaker and the common cold.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 21, 2021 11:06 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Amazing what a bit of rebranding and a whole lot of highly concentrated air-time fear can generate.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 7:04 PM

Perhaps the dissident sites (the genuine sincere ones, not the mole infested ones) are silent here because they simply do not have the skill set and conceptual tools to understand what they are dealing with. They have been drilled in the Western liberal paradigm that cannot envisage such a matter as concentrated secret communication between clandestine groups i.e. conspiracies.

Furthermore, their entire self-image is based on an aggressively assertive rejection of such conspiratorial suspicion, this latter being relegated to an imagined infantile and (here it comes) “fascistic” mentality. The “proper lines” of enquiry have been firmly established. They have reigned for decades now and the psychic formation has now ossified.

Zubin Damania’s rudimentary “checklist” gives the conspiracy phobic catechism with a crude faddishness. And such is the current confused state of the Left that I have no idea whether they would feel embarrassed to be associated with him or consider him a real funky dude!

But the underlying buzz over the whole covid psy-op has simply been an update of the old war propaganda with a new twist. The Krauts/ Commies/ Ragheads have been uploaded to a viral menace. But the accoutrements of this age old scam remain the same: the deadly dull ban on all forms of levity, the insistence on waves of communal grief or ecstatic affirmation to be on hand for instant production, the po-faced presentation of even the most laughable clichés.

And this is where David Icke’s metaphor of reptilian entities is indeed pertinent. The reptile – the unsmiling scaly inscrutable automaton, the mindless scramble around a hierarchy, the absolute negation of all distinction, inspiration, and spirit. This is the utterly dead world that the overlords have always worshipped and considered an utter necessity for the masses that they despise.

Health is always signified by irreverence, by the joyful acknowledgement of absurdity, by the raucous laugh at pomposity tripping up over itself. This the overlords have always despised. And they have not been slow to condemn it. And traditionally it was the Left who were the biggest scoffers, the most gleeful mockers.

But the unprecedented move whereby the controlled opposition now take centre stage has produced a most peculiar situation. The moles guided the duped dissidents into the center – where they blink in confusion. Weren’t they supposed to be the outsiders? Weren’t they supposed to “deconstruct” the press? What happens when the press agree with them? This presents no problem to the moles of course who can gladly churn out contradictions, the biggest being their insistence that the media want to cover up covid or downplay it (?!) But the dupes are the ones who notice things (eventually).

And so what do they do when presented with a hugely advertised “Great Plague Which Will Destroy Capitalism”? How do they account for the curious congruence between their revolutionary ambition and the high profile devastation being eagerly promoted by the media – which is after all a capitalist media?

An unease permeates their souls. Something is amiss here. By their logic, the proles should be lining up for the vax and demanding its application everywhere. So why the increasingly illiberal drive towards coercion from the rulers? Are all vax refusers dupes of the “Right Wing”? If so, why is the media promoting that very notion?

The crash you now hear is the massed floundering of the embarrassed duped dissidents.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 23, 2021 7:05 AM
Reply to  George Mc

That’s a great post. It deserves to be published as an essay somewhere.

“The crash you now hear is the massed floundering of the embarrassed duped dissidents.”

I just wish I could believe they are crashing en masse. Egos are strong things and heavily defended. Most of these laptop leftoids and professional pundits are still rigid, still impervious to evidence or reason, still sure they’re on the winning side (“the right side of history”, sic). Others have retired into a discreet silence, waiting to see if the wind changes.

Ego-death is a kind of death. Many people — especially men, and most especially those who identify as intellectuals — would rather drop dead than admit they’ve been duped. Worse, they would rather see other people die, even en masse. Q.E.D

Croach
Croach
Sep 21, 2021 6:24 PM

Aussie copper speaks honestly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RedEdge722/status/1440237828265242629
We need need to try and explain to the police that once tptb are done using them to break us they won’t need any coppers anymore.
Once everyone has a digital ID that tracks everything they do and say and everywhere they go, and is linked to their UBI and food stamps, if someone steps out of line they can just cut off their food stamps.
Won’t need coppers for that.
So most of them will be out of a job.
And ‘cos the pandemic’ has destroyed the economy there won’t be any redundancy payment, there won’t be any any cushy pensions.
They’ll be on UBI and food stamps like the rest of us.
And if they don’t like it and step out of line?
Well tptb will just cut off their food stamps.
They’ve got the police out digging their own graves. Murdering their own families by degrees.
If they’re only there out of self-interest, explain It absolutely isn’t in their interest to be there.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 21, 2021 7:00 PM
Reply to  Croach

Lame. I’ve put my money where my mouth is. No work for nearly 2 months because employer forces masks/ breathing restrictions for 6 hour work days. The copper can say he doesn’t like it till the cows come home. As far as I know I’m the only one who’s said fuck you and taken weeks worth of no income. This prick turned up with his gun, taser, billy clubs and riot gear and his fucking mask to smash peasants. Coz it’s his jjjjjjjob and coz he wants to get paid. And he’s ok with it. Fuck that.

shamen
shamen
Sep 21, 2021 9:22 PM
Reply to  Croach

everything about this was dark and staged
to the not so wise theses things amp up during full moon and equinox’s.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 21, 2021 4:39 PM

More rhetoric. More clever analysis devoid of any functional resolution. Too bad…

It’s the corporate state. Hello? Corporate State. You’ve been hosed by the CORPORATE STATE for hundreds of years. Simple: Rid your collective plantation of corporate ownership, or remain feudal slaves. >

Chartering a New Course
Revoking Corporations’ Right to Exist
The Multinational Monitor
Oct./Nov. 2002 – VOLUME 23 – NUMBghoulER 10 & 11
 
The Future of Corporate Reform (multinationalmonitor.org)

There are more concise explanations available on the internet. My suggestion is to download copies and links to such research.
 
Section 720 ILCS 5/38-1 – Forfeiture of charter and revocation of certificate, 720 ILCS 5/38-1 | Casetext Search + Citator

8 Delaware Code § 284 (2018) – Revocation or forfeiture of charter; proceedings :: 2018 Delaware Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia

Etc…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 4:26 PM

We face the wrath of technocracy, a war against the robotic mind that places the cipher, the digit or the bit above the soul.

The artificial intelligence is half formed yet its progenitors are already trying to grasp God’s mantle.

Oh, don’t doubt their faith. No atheists they.

If Gates and Schmidt and the pool of decomposing syrup interned in the Pocantico Hills did not believe, how could they presume to rival?

They believe very much in the spirit, in the heavens and among us.They tried to save their Reich not in urns but genes and whether we see the DNA rise Jurassic-like to walk the Earth, their ideas will be presented to us as the inevitable, undying ideology — the old order, the new normal — claiming the remainder of the 988 years that it never quite lasted.

Their love of the robotic is not a positive but a negative. It is only hate. Which those who embrace it fear not. Soon they will enact hate laws for they project their resentment upon us all. Envy is a part but not all. The next step is to consume. They seek to use you.

Do not mistake the continuities. Nor misdiagnose it either. For this virus is not what you think.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 5:40 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Was the Cold War a lie? There are illuminating parallels in the war on Germany.

Supposedly smashed after WW2, it was actually integrated into the United States: chemicals, oil, aerospace, pharmaceuticals, medicine, education, psychology, neuroscience, political science, policians and spies, policing and military.

Objectively one could says that without Germany there would have been no American dream, at least post war. Almost all the U.S. post-war miracle was appropriated and looted from Germany.

You can’t have an empire without an ideology. Where did it come from?

Intermezzo. Uncle Sam enters state left: ‘We seek him high. We seek him low.’

Grouch Marx, stage right: ‘I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.’

Clearly no-one is a fascist. Who would join?

Wikipedia goes out of its way to attribute the phrase ‘New World Order’ to conspiracy fantasists, while it can’t withold H.G. Well’s 1940 book title — though it does neglect to tell you it was based on newspaper articles from 1939, which built on arguments he presented as early as 1924: “the common uneducated man is a violent fool in social and public affairs.”

In his essay of 1924, “The Spirit of Fascism: Is There Any Good in It at All?” Wells regretted that the Communists and the Italian fascists tried to terrorize the population into happiness, while not objecting to their end: ‘great central organization of economic science.’

Oh my jolly Schwab… you’ll have nothing and you’ll be happy.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 21, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Was the Cold War a lie? There are illuminating parallels in the war on Germany.
Supposedly smashed after WW2, it was actually integrated into the United States.

Except the chunk that was integrated into the USSR.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 5:58 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Yes, I cut that out though I’m a claim a bit of knowledge on that. The Soviets dismantled factories and dragged them east — fricking mechanical watch factories and Leica ripoffs.

Russia got much less than the U.S. Though they needed it less.

They imprisoned German rocket scientists on an island until the mid-50s — but unlike the Americans, the Russians already produced the best rocket scientists. Reason: the Russians still had the skills at that point having been expanding as fast as the U.S. in 1875-1910.

It’s a fun debate whether the U.S. got the best bits. Gehlen was a complete fraud and the NAZIs conducted a reverse takeover of the nascent (1947) CIA. It turned out to be a massive drain of finance to Germany.

Which is the subject of my next article. Was American wealth being drained offshore by the lawyer-banker-Rockerfeller-CIA syndicate as early as the 1940s?

I’m not ‘praising’ the later USSR. The same Rockefeller-Hammer gang propped up the Soviet Union, as Antony Sutton showed — it could not have survived without finance and investment from its supposed capitalist enemies.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 21, 2021 7:20 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The Cold War and the Nukes were faked. Same with the wars being orchestrated and unnecessary. Also many parts of those orchestrated skirmishes were hoaxed. Even the ones in Syria, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

The pattern here is that they simply terrorize people to steal from them and enslave them within the false economy, the fiat currencies and the tyranny tax system.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 21, 2021 10:42 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Petra is that you?

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 11:26 PM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

Maybe sisters?

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 22, 2021 10:00 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

Petra doesn’t have any reasons with her claims. Or evidence.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 23, 2021 5:54 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Please present a claim I make without reason or evidence.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 23, 2021 8:33 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Since you ask…

1. “The towers were hollow tubes with no floors and the PTB pumped them full of fake dust to make them look real when they fell down”

2. “The PTB had people throwing 11ft mannequins out of the 100th story windows standing on the non-existent floor”

3. “WTC7 is for idiots because Literary EVERY mistake the PTB make is intentional & therefore ignored by really smart clued in people like me”

4. “The scientists who discovered thermite in the WTC dust were shills”

6. “All the architects who produced evidence for controlled demolition were shills”

7. “That guy on the internet who thinks the towers were hollow is NOT a shill, you can take him to the bank”

8. “That photo of the guy who jumped from the 100+ floor looks TOTALLY FAKE”

9. “Ok, maybe it doesn’t look TOTALLY fake, but it still COULD be fake because some fake things don’t look fake. That’s LOGIC”

10. “The most important thing about 9/11 is that literally NO ONE died on 9/11”

11. “I NEVER said literally no one died on 9/11, don’t misquote me”

12. “The most important thing about 9/11 is that literally NO ONE died on 9/11”.

13. “Why does everyone keep talking about how many people died on 9/11, that’s just a distraction from the REAL most important thing about 9/11 which is THERE WERE NO PLANES”

14. “But seriously, literally NO ONE died on 9/11, show me evidence of people who did

15. “That evidence you just showed me for people dying on 9/11 must be fake, because LITERALLY NO ONE DIED ON 9/11 – duh”

16. “Well, I never said NO ONE died, stop putting words in my mouth, but it def wasn’t 3,000 people is the point”

17. “WTC7 was intentionally made to look like a controlled demolition to distract from the fact NO ONE DIED on 9/11”.

18. “I meant to say WTC7 was intentionally made to look like a controlled demolition to distract from the fact there were NO PLANES on 9/11”

19. “the PTB didn’t want to distract from no planes right away. They had a long plan, which involved EVERYONE talking about no planes for ten years and then switching to talking about WTC7 being a controlled demolition to distract from the fact there were no planes which would prove there was controlled demolition”

20. “Since there were NO PLANES on 9/11 the people who saw planes must have been seeing something else.”

21. “hologram planes on 9/11!”

22.”…what? I just follow the evidence, ok”.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 23, 2021 1:32 PM

“WTC7 is for idiots because Literally EVERY mistake the PTB make is intentional & therefore ignored by really smart clued in people like me”

OK, since the hypothesis that WTC-7 was deliberately showcased is my “baby” I shall put forward reason and evidence for its being deliberately showcased and you can put forward reason and evidence for it being a genuine screwup, Sophie.

1. The fact that the whole of the 9/11 narrative is utterly ludicrous means that the PTB know they can put any old garbage in front of us and even though a small percentage will recognise it as such it’s too small a number to have any effect. The perps weren’t in the least worried that there were massive anomalies in:

— boxcutter-armed hijackers managing to overcome four planesworth of crew and passengers

— no squawking by pilots

— not a breath of interception of four airliners lumbering around the best defended airspace on earth

— airliners flying around at almost sea-level at impossible speeds

etc

Included in their concocted narrative was the above. They PLANNED ABSOLUTE NONSENSE that they KNEW they could get away with and they knew that the nonsense would actually work better as indicated by Gerard Holmgren:

​”The official story required either that one descended into total intellectual senility in order to still believe it – perhaps deliberately made ridiculous for that very purpose – or else that one keep one’s intellect alive but destroy almost everything that one had previously believed about how society works.”

This quote comes from a short article, A Theory, where Gerard admits his theory that people would choose to destroy what they believed about how society works over believing absolute nonsense was “dead wrong”.
https://www.yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/A-theory.pdf

2. With 1. in mind there is no reason to think of WTC-7 as being a screwup particularly whether deliberate or accidental. From start to finish the 9/11 story doesn’t add up in any shape or form and the perps seem perfectly relaxed about it. They don’t seem in the least concerned. They just keep pumping out the propaganda and maintain denial. Surely, they could have come up with a more convincing terrorist narrative. Did they really have to include the Pentagon, Defence HQ? Couldn’t they at least have limited the attack to the twin towers, wouldn’t that have been sufficient for their “instilling of terror” purpose? Nope, in most seemingly counterintuitive fashion they happily exposed the seeming fact that the Defence HQ of the most militarised nation on earth was completely defenceless against a bunch of 19 ragtag terrorists armed with boxcutters.

3. Moving on from deliberate or accidental screwup, let’s consider why they might have brought down 7 on the day rather than later as they brought down 3 to 6.

WTC-7 is now considered THE smoking gun but we might ask the question why? Why is 7 more of a smoking gun than the planes, for example? Planes don’t melt into buildings or holes in the ground, we saw no evidence of a plane at the Pentagon. There was no wreckage from the planes, no black boxes, no interceptors and other anomalies. Why should there be only ONE smoking gun for 9/11 when the whole narrative is simply packed full of anomalies. But it seems, everyone’s agreed: WTC-7 is the smoking gun. That’s the narrative we’re all agreed on. I’ve been told at least once but more times I think that if I don’t go along with WTC-7 being the smoking gun, I’m undermining the truth movement! Yes, I MUST agree that WTC-7 is THE smoking gun.

As stated by Walter Lippman, however:
“Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.”

If we’re all thinking WTC-7’s the smoking gun perhaps we’ve been herded into it. Perhaps by using the argument that WTC-7 was a building that WASN’T HIT BY A PLANE and thus removing that complication we can make it all nice and simple by focusing our attention on it.

Consider this, however:
If we focus on the planes we kill two birds with one stone where it doesn’t work the other way.
If the planes were faked, then we know AUTOMATICALLY that the buildings came down by a controlled means. End of.

Planes faked means building collapses controlled.

And planes faked means the faked deaths of 265 alleged passengers … which can be the slippery slope to questioning all death and injury.

Why is it that 60 aerospace engineers have signed onto A&E for 9/11 Truth to talk about how planes don’t bring down buildings NOT to talk about how there weren’t any planes. It’s a bit more fundamental, isn’t it? If there weren’t any planes the non-existent planes certainly didn’t bring down any buildings.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 23, 2021 2:34 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

This is the last time. You are NOT going to be permitted to ask this question any more as if it has not been answered. It HAS BEEN ANSWERED.

WTC-7 is now considered THE smoking gun but we might ask the question why? Why is 7 more of a smoking gun than the planes, for example?

Because the visual evidence of the collapse is measurable, finite and conclusive. It contravenes known physical laws. There is proof.

The evidence of the planes is not measurable, infinitely debatable and inconclusive. It may or may not contravene known physical laws. There is NO Proof.

This is also why the PTB buried WTC7 for years and planted shills to talk about the planes. And why your entire hypothesis about WTC7 is fatally flawed.

Now, either produce new data or move on. If you once again post these questions pretending they have not been answered your post will be removed.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 22, 2021 1:12 AM
Reply to  Researcher

I agree with the first sentence. Not the rest.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 22, 2021 10:07 AM
Reply to  New Nane

That’s because you haven’t researched what I have researched. There’s patterns to these hoaxes. And they get caught continually manufacturing stories but the public doesn’t seem to understand it’s not an anomaly. There’s no need to create hoaxes within the wars if the wars are real. There’s actually no need for the wars at all. They are all funded by the banking cartel. And the banking cartel runs the world. So the idea that there are sovereign governments is a scam. It’s simply untrue. They are incorporated entities run by a global cartel.

The wars don’t make sense. Unless they are racketeering scams with other aims: Narco trafficking. Human trafficking. Destabilizing regions. Controlling populations. Stealing land. Creating high unemployment. Destroying small businesses. Training gangs and thugs. Terrorizing the populations. Creating refugees. Culture clashes. Pension looting, Market rigging. Energy profiteering. Trauma based mind control.

Those points make sense. The aim of the wars as stated by US or NATO don’t make sense. And furthermore the entire aim of the UN was supposedly to bring peace but they never bother to TRY to fulfil their aims, but instead create scams like pandemics and climate crisis fraud. So what is the UN? It’s a total psyop producing global agendas like Agenda 21 which is the Great Reset rebranded.

And the East and the West work together behind the scenes and share intelligence (no matter the statements to the public through the press) so they are not two separate blocs or competing countries or even competing corporations. All major corporations in the world are majority owned by the same group of companies. The world is run through a financial cartel, who use corporations and contact law to hide the fact that it’s one cartel with a top down structure and thousands of subsidiary shell corporations.

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 6:31 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

ah.. HG Wells, another contact of Crowley (SIS) and Huxley via Viscount Tredegar’s “wild parties”, writing about Mussolini who was financed pre-war by the SIS.
All the worlds a stage.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 6:39 PM
Reply to  someone

Yep. Mussolini very much a creation. It’s amazing how they all vacationed in London… Lenin, Trotsky, Ho Chi Minh, Mussolini, Hitler… Dr Johnson notwithstanding this was their supposed enemy.

Would a 1950s American have said, hey, hun, let’s do Moscow? (Unless you are a U.S. serviceman named Lee Oswald. Then it’s obvious your employer being the military/CIA/FBI would finance you both ways.)

And when London wasn’t revolution central it was Geneva/Basel/Zurich or New York.

Hmm. I cannot help but smell waft of banker.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 7:32 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And none of the pub crawling seditionaries got arrested! On the contrary, SIS slapped down the Canadians who were crass enough to stop Trotsky on his way to the ‘revolution’.

As for Kim Philby the ‘double agent’ — his father helped the Bolsheviks into power. And his grandfather was, from memory, a fake muslim reshaping the Middle East.

Please don’t ask me to sniff turds for authenticity.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 21, 2021 11:58 PM
Reply to  someone

Some, have you any material on Tredegar other than Daily Mail article? I can only find a book that’s selling on Zon for $102

someone
someone
Sep 22, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  Grace Johns

Here is a start: he has a few articles from mainly Italian sources.

https://pontifexverus.wordpress.com/2017/04/24/evan-morgan-2nd-viscount-tredegar/

Its from a catholic oriented viewpoint.

Observe the obvious fake photo of Tredegar in uniform with his supposed father, note also he looks very semitic.

some background:
https://lesserknownartists.blogspot.com/2020/

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 22, 2021 9:59 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The intellectual property USA alone seized comprised 1,400 tonnes of documents on paper and microfilm. -Harper’s Magazine 1946 

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 7:10 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

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Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 4:19 PM

Mind over matter is my philosophy don’t let the doctors tell you you got this and that they just want to sell drugs believe you.

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 7:59 PM
Reply to  Anne

Medical practitioners saved my life several times, both with surgery and with drugs. I have a very high respect for the medical profession. But one must use one’s own judgment; that’s the principle of “informed consent”.

What your medical practitioner is selling you in the first place is not drugs nor instruments but professional advice, just like a Lawyer. You are free to follow that advice or not as you judge fit. It’s your life.

Doctor: “I wouldn’t worry about that if I had it”.
Patient: “If you had it I wouldn’t worry about that either”.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 22, 2021 12:01 AM
Reply to  NickM

If you were a mother and had your baby diagnosed with the latest trend disease for the latest pharma with the ensuing blackmailing guilt-tripping follow-up phone calls, bullying you to force said new pharma into baby, you might feel differently – after you discovered via natural medicine that baby had no disease whatsoever.

Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 3:52 PM

Ooh what’s wrong middle class?Why are you crying now when you never cried for your man on the street when you walked past and thought he’ll spend it on drugs have you never lived on the streets?Do you know these people yes some do have problems with drugs why??because only way they can cope living on a pavement Sometimes people have been thrown out.All I can say is what goes around comes around.

Michel
Michel
Sep 21, 2021 3:43 PM

Big thank you again, eminent Mr Corbet !

Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 3:24 PM

I’m not being nasty believe but now the middle class can see they were taken for fools,Government corporations gave them toys for so many years they thought they were invincible and they laughed at the lower classes useless jobless scum that’s what we were called.Now there toys are being taken away while we never had none.When they walked amongst the destitute and homeless did they not think these people are me no they thought I’ll do my bit for charity now the tables have turned you have nothing and be happy.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 21, 2021 3:08 PM

This is from a few years ago.

Melbourne police captured on CCTV taking down disability pensioner
Apr 3, 2018
ABC News (Australia)
Dramatic video has emerged of several cases in which Victoria police have allegedly gone too far, with people bashed and brutalised during arrests. Now Victoria Police’s internal investigation of complaints is being questioned. Read more about this ABC News/The Age investigation here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-03/melbourne-police-on-video-taking-down-disability-pensioner/9591006

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 21, 2021 3:39 PM

Most of the police violence SHOWN is fake. Who knows what happens that’s not shown. That one’s fake. The BS story about why the pensioner has CCTV, the way the police launch at him – why would they do that? You can tell the violence isn’t real. Watering can. All BS. The investigations are staged. It’s all BS, BS, BS. Drives you mad.

Roberto
Roberto
Sep 21, 2021 5:27 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Obviously staged with crisis actors in a place called Melbourne that doesn’t really exist.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 21, 2021 5:57 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Don’t watch it then. If you think it’s all fake.

gordan
gordan
Sep 21, 2021 7:52 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

if pretty boy says it real then it fake simple math

smirking lawyer

nothing should be trusted i am with petra on this
this is a world of fuck fakery.

if it was real john could of used the uniform commercial code and got a million from the police insurance
all police are corporate agents and are required to have id and will have to disclose insurance details

this can be got by simply putting in a full disclosure request to the local police station which will be in fact a private for profit foreign corporation.

the mistake john made if he is not an actor is he employed a lawyer who works for the foreign corporation that is the court system

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 22, 2021 4:11 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Oh I assure, John, I NEVER willingly watch the media. I distinctly remember when I first saw this video was in a waiting room and it struck me as lacking credibility. Notice how the man is referred to only as John, the location is the “northern suburbs of Melbourne” and we know nothing of the police officers’ station’s whereabouts. I could watch the video again and point out all the anomalies but I’m not going to. If you believe it that’s your prerogative.

Just to point out that another commenter put a link to John Overkill’s YT channel which focuses a lot on staged police violence.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnDEaY2sKnH_uu03nMN3PzQ

I just want to make the point abundantly clear. It is not that I don’t believe in real police violence or bad behaviour of other kinds, not at all. I got issued two fines about a month ago on a train for being maskless and “out of area” totalling $1,500. I foolishly handed the police my out-of-date licence (I so easily could have avoided the fines by simply not handing over my details) and told them my address was out of date. They didn’t confirm my new address although I told them the suburb I lived in. I thought they perhaps could find my new address another way. When I received no fines I thought they hadn’t sent them but then I got suspicious and checked with Revenue if there were any fines in my name. Sure enough there were so the police very dishonestly sent my fines to an old address which I may never have received and then found myself in the situation of not having responded to the fines in a timely manner. Of course, I’m not paying them, I’ll go to court but it’s good to know that the fines are there in my name rather than getting surprised by them with a summons later.

My main point, John, isn’t that the police don’t commit violence or do, it’s that the powers that be control the narrative – they control the narrative whether they’re pushing out stuff that makes them look good or makes them look bad.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 22, 2021 10:47 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Thing is though if your evidence is just a subjective feeling it ‘looks fake’ it can’t be measured or evaluated. We need more than that. Sometimes reality does ‘look fake’ and sometimes fake ‘looks real’. Sam was saying recently that he has witnessed real bar fights that looked phony – so go figure.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 22, 2021 11:07 AM

But I never simply argue for “looks fake” Sophie – if that’s all I could think of I wouldn’t bother. I generally always marshal a number of points and – as I say ad nauseam – in psyops they always give us the clues so they don’t just make something “look fake”, they include deliberate anomalies that can be identified and added together. For example, they will have witnesses describe a scene that in no way reflects the photographic imagery. This is not just “looks fake”, this is a clear anomaly and there’s usually a number.

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Sep 21, 2021 6:03 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Did you actually watch and understand the points made in Corbett’s video?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 22, 2021 3:56 AM
Reply to  nondimenticare

No I didn’t watch it.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 21, 2021 10:43 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

It’s clearly driven you mad.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 22, 2021 2:19 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

It was a Rockefeller mafia “Wellness Check”. The pensioner was trying to detox. He knew what to expect and therefore installed CCTV. However, it’s no use in court because you don’t win against the Rockefeller mafia.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 21, 2021 4:04 PM

Yup. So it takes five police officers to take down one strung out person with a bad back.
What are the thugs going to do when they’re up against a whole country of pissed off straight people?

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 8:02 PM

That’s right. We are many, they are few; and it takes 5 of them to hold down one of us.

Aux armes, Citoyens!

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 21, 2021 9:43 PM

That’s when the nukes come out…

Orthus
Orthus
Sep 21, 2021 11:29 PM

What are the thugs going to do when they’re up against a whole country of pissed off straight people?

Run?

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 21, 2021 9:36 PM

If this sort of thing is supposed to be for real, then the police must know that what they do will immediately be put online.
So we have to wonder why they would apparently want that to be the case.

Perhaps to provoke violent protest, so that they can get their really big crowd control weapons out…?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 24, 2021 9:04 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I think in this case, they didn’t spot the CCTV. I’ve never fitted it, but I presume it can come disguised in light fittings etc.

Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 1:14 PM

My thoughts are if they got away with all the wars 9/11 and now covid they think they are invincible.Like a shoplifter start off with a bar of chocolate then a cheese then steak still not caught they’ll go onto alcohol fags robbing a bank.No difference from these criminals in government and aristocrats how you think they got their wealth?Not through helping kittens.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 21, 2021 1:46 PM
Reply to  Anne

They got away with a couple of world wars and all sorts of other things too.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 2:54 PM
Reply to  Maiasta

Measles is nothing to sneeze at (or from). Why, a few years back in the US there was a terrible measles outbreak – 734 cases! All among vaccinated children. (Maybe that’s why the story faded away after only a couple days.)

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 21, 2021 8:11 PM
Reply to  Howard

Measles is not a viral disease, despite what you’ve been told. It is a side effect of chronic vitamin A deficiency. That’s why it is generally only fatal in Africa and South Asia (where there is insufficient animal protein intake). In the US and Western Europe, the chances of dying from measles are so small as to be negligable.

Measles Before the Marketing of the Vaccine
Hard facts: Death from measles or death from measles vaccine?

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 21, 2021 8:13 PM
Reply to  Howard
Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 12:13 PM

Off topic but still intertwined.Sen.Ron Johnson with families on adverse reactions to covid vaccine fox6 news Milwaukee.Don’t know if anyone’s got a link I don’t know how to do it on here.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 21, 2021 12:44 PM
Reply to  Anne

Is this the correct one?

Sen. Ron Johnson with families on adverse reactions to COVID vaccine
FOX6 News Milwaukee
Streamed live on Jun 28, 2021
WATCH: Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson holds a news conference with families from across the country who share their experiences regarding adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccines.

Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 1:15 PM

Yes Thankyou.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 21, 2021 4:24 PM

He prefaces his remarks with the usual “I’m pro-vaccine” rhetoric. As if telling someone you quit beating your wife somehow sanctifies your present existence.

If Senators such as Ron Johnson actually wished to set the situation straight, they’d be filing criminal charges against various pharmaceutical manufactures.
He would also authorize his States Attorneys General to file criminal charges against the CDC, FDA, NIH, and other corporate agencies for egregious acts of terrorism.

If any of these talking heads were serious, they’d be revoking corporate charters in their various jurisdictions. It’s all just more bullshit theatrics…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 21, 2021 5:06 PM

It’s something people have been brainwashed into saying, that they’re not “anti-vaxxers”. However, I suspect that politics is almost entirely owned by Big Pharma and that people like Johnson dare not cross the line.

Judith
Judith
Sep 21, 2021 6:49 PM

Yes, I’m afraid it is. Like Congressional Hearings.

Orthus
Orthus
Sep 21, 2021 1:23 PM
Reply to  Anne

Just post the link. As I understand it any text beginning https:// (or whatever) will be converted to a link automagically.

Or the chain symbol (3rd from the right at the bottom of the box) will give you more options.

Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 2:04 PM
Reply to  Orthus

I can forward it to friends and family but I can’t find link to offgaurdian?

Anne
Anne
Sep 21, 2021 2:35 PM
Reply to  Orthus

I’ll try I’m not techno savvy Thankyou.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 9:54 AM

Mike Adams — CDC, DoD running black ops, poisoning speaker events. Evidence of previous deliberate release of pathogens.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/utio7IJRSTjZ/

Corroboration from Dr Sheri Tenpenny
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9YBKURi0S1im/

MB-J
MB-J
Sep 21, 2021 9:52 AM

As soon as 9/11 happened, Bush spoke of revenge. Hang on, didn’t it cross the mind of his advisors that the Box Cutter Boys could have done this on their tod and all the demand for vengeance was pretty pointless given their deaths?

I know it was likely that any terrorist had support and funding, but not necessarily.

For me, this call to avenge the dead from the outset was a giveaway. That was the plan from the start. You cannot start wars unless there is a casus beli. For Americans, the fear of communism could justify wars in the far east. There needed to be fear of Islamic terrorism.

If you find yourself in a sofa coma, watch the painful BBC documentary 9/11: Inside the President’s War Room. As scripted as the event itself, it is possible to see the construction of tension and drama as cowboy George flies around like a fly above a steaming turd, landing occasionally to savour the flavour.

The photographs look like stills from a movie. Then: Patriot George argues with advisors, he wants to get off the plane and fight those ‘thugs’. Now: Patriot George stands by his decisions to fight those ‘thugs’.

Even if all was as we were told it was, the barely contained but manicured blood lust of cowboy George as he goes after the bad guys is alarming. If it looks like a movie, than it is one.

Orthus
Orthus
Sep 21, 2021 11:01 AM
Reply to  MB-J

Surely the first thing Bush did after 9/11 was to look confused, before he was led away by minders.

gordan
gordan
Sep 21, 2021 12:55 PM
Reply to  MB-J

bush also said
we are going to mars
we are going to mars
we are
going to
mars

does anyone have the lyrics spelling spell craft kaballa chant

that the teacher was invoking in front of bush
get ready
get ready

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 21, 2021 9:40 AM

This is the sort of video that worries me about Corbett. He claims a) the 9/11 movement failed b) this was because of internal divisions.

The claim the 9/11 movement failed seems more and more like subtle black-pilling to me. It didn’t fail – in fact its success is being shown in the US vaccination rates. Large numbers have been woken up to how large psy-ops are conducted and can now recognise one in real time. That’s a massive transformation achieved against all the wealth and resources of the oligarchs and deep state. Corbett seems to be saying the movement has failed until the perpetrators are in jail. That’s never going to happen – he’s setting up an impossible standard. It’s also not something his rival systems are going to achieve – so presumably they are failures too?

The claim about the danger of internal divisions is a go-to for stifling debate and blocking lines of research (gate-keeping, to be blunt). Was some of the debate about, for example, how exactly were the Towers brought down frustrating? Sure. Was some of that contrived? Almost certainly. So? Does that mean self-appointed leaders can enforce party discipline and order people not to look at the evidence for a directed energy weapon because “laser beams in space” rhetoric can be used to try to make ‘truthers’ sound crazy? It’s nothing more than the old siren call of “respectability” – and look where that got oppositional movements. The crucial part about “you’re crazy” is not to be triggered by it and to keep calmly and patiently explaining one’s evidence for believing something. (I’m not claiming that’s easy or that I’ve always lived up to it BTW).

The part of the video I particularly find concerning is where Corbett implies an equivalence between “no planes on 9/11” and “no viruses”. They are not equivalent at all – the former dismisses something thousands of people saw with their own eyes; the latter questions something that only Rockefeller-trained operatives can see in an expensive piece of tech. What they say they are seeing has plausible alternative interpretations whereas a plane hitting a building is a plane hitting a building. I hate feeling like I ought to write this because it makes me sound like a “no viruses” fanatic. I’m not – I’ve seen plausible evidence to suggest it may be a valid hypothesis, nothing more. The holes in germ theory are quite amazing when one looks – and nobody should say or imply “don’t look”. The answer to “no viruses” is to make a compelling case that viruses do indeed exist, something Corbett hasn’t done. There’s the greatest opportunity ever here to re-conceptualise our whole paradigm of health which is not an opportunity to be passed up lightly. Corbett’s approach would dismiss Covid-19 but leave open the door for every other virus and they have and will concoct.

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 21, 2021 10:10 AM
Reply to  Edwige

I think you’re right on on the money Edwige. I would be careful about putting my trust and attention in Corbett or his reports.

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 21, 2021 2:15 PM
Reply to  Corarden

My problem with Corbett has nothing to do with anyone else’s argument here, it is based on his debunking of the god gene funvax video, preposterously making a big song and dance about the fact that the person presenting the horrific concept of gene altering vaccines wasn’t Gates and how so many fools were out there believing it was and letting the side down. It obviously wasn’t Gates, and it is entirely besides the point – he ignored entirely the import of the video itself, who was making the presentation, and it is a genuine video. That stinks. In a big way.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 21, 2021 7:51 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Totally agree, that was a huge red flag for me. The way he reacted to that video which was clearly of some import caused me to totally re-evaluate him. Everytime I see him now I take in the info but look at it as from someone with an agenda which is very unclear.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 10:26 AM
Reply to  Edwige

[no virus] questions something that only Rockefeller-trained operatives can see in an expensive piece of tech.

The answer to “no viruses” is to make a compelling case that viruses do indeed exist, something Corbett hasn’t done.

So it’s Corbetts fault for not being a Rockefeller-trained operative?

If you want to call Corbett out as a gatekeeper you’re going to need a better argument than this!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 11:13 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

Corbett built his reputation slowly but we’ll never know if he was influenced by whoever paid the bills (I was — as a working journalist I was totally influenced by who paid my wages at least for the first decade). Webb emerged out of Mint Press which has clear funding, as Brendan O’Connell points out. They both do good work. Like all people they have their boundaries.

Ultimately, you don’t have to prove all the details. Like our Marxist friends, you just need a thesis that works against the opposition.

No one is going to jail for JFK or 9/ll as Edwige says. We just need a thesis that accounts for the conditions and works against the opposition.

Corbett talks a good talk. That’s not a double-edged criticism. This video is good but it contains the weakness he casts at others: he ties his argument with a bow.

I make the same criticism of some of the articles here — there are too many that seek to tell us the whole story, ribbon and wrapping. And someone finds a new nut or bolt, they put it in the box, and tell us the whole story again, ribbon and wrapping.

Argument is messy, incomplete, a hypothesis and thus it will always generate counter theories and factions.

We don’t need to know how many bullet cases were found on the Grassy Knoll. On the other hand, people were right to look for them.

I dismissed Thermite as a distraction when it was first brought up because I did not see the significance. And the name sounded too funky. Now I know that Thermite is what cut the metal beams and brought the buildings down.

Do I need to prove that Graphene is in the vaccines. Nope. Vaccines are full of poisonous metals and have been for years (Gatti & Montanari). Nanocarbon is the great new hope in science. If it’s not in vaccines now it will be soon.

Who is doing it? I’m writing about that now. This is a news story. It affects the present. Yet I’m struggling as I have since the start of Event Covid, despite a 35 year career explaining the financial and the complex.

My training in the 5 Ws and the 1H does not help in a story that has so many arrivals and departures, so many junctions and connections that it would barely fit in a novel, even with the advantages of fiction to elide and conflate.

In news you must attribute especially if you are going to apportion responsibility or blame. Yet whom do you name as the perpetrator when there are so many?

That is why we must think on the go, and not waste time picking threads — Corbett is right about that. It’s a new skill. And we must learn in the process.

It’s a reverse praxis. By the time we’ve defeated them we shall know what they did.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 11:41 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

re corbett, the thing is I don’t have to trust him, I can go to the sources and make my own mind up.

Same with TLAV & Webb, I read the Spanish study too, I know that picture is an example from the literature without Webbs reasoning, it’s easier to point peopIe at that discussion since the original study has been memory holed by the people pushing misinformation because it disproves their claims.

I know the study that contained that example picture stated definitively that they could NOT find definitive proof of graphine in the sample even when they looked specifically for it, they used that example picture to show why they cannot prove definitively graphine was in the sample. YOU know this too, I recall you commenting on it when you posted webbs discussion with TLAV.

Do I need to prove that Graphene is in the vaccines. Nope.

If you are going to claim there is definitive proof Graphine is in the vaccines you do. Anyone who uses subdefuge to make that claim should be called out, it’s smoke and mirrors as I’ve already said…

so why are you word salading/gaslighting around this point?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Because the big players behind this are deep into nanocarbon and have the research/patents to show how they plan to use it.

I have no evidence it’s being used now. But it ties too neatly with EMF and digital technologies to dismiss its imminent role.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 12:33 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

That’s like saying microchips are in vaccines because they have loads of research for embedded/injectable biotech microchips. So we shouldn’t ask for evidence when claims are made microchips are in the vaccines?

And we shouldn’t point out smoke and mirrors when people use misinfo in their ‘papers’ to make unfounded claims? How do we know their whole ‘metal invaccines’ from the same frigging paper as the misinfo on graphine is not also misinfo? I should just trust them because there are plans to use it?

Nobody is dismissing potential for it, I’m pointing out misinfo, downright falsehoods, with proof it’s false, but you don’t want to dismiss falshood because it has potential to not be false one day…

you want me to question what my own eyes have seen because Webb is credible but “has boundries” As if my eyes have potential to be wrong because graphine has potential in loads of other research?

I call a spade a spade. The “graphine is in vaccines” claim lacks definitive proof, even when independant scientists looked specifically for it. The sponsors of that research memory holed it, produced a pdf obfuscating the result to make it look like the claim was valid, i.e. spread downright false information. Others included that same misinformation in their “papers” with other claims for finding metal etc. And you trust this BS?

Your definition of “Credible” and “Evidence” differs greatly from mine.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 3:06 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Forgive me for once again defaulting to my default source for lots of information: geoengineeringwatch.org.

Regarding graphene, Dane Wigington has stated that graphene has been detected amongst the other nano-particles in the solar management (chemtrail) spraying.

The one problem I have with Mr WIgington, however, is his too willingness to believe anything bad attributed to the climate engineers. Once it’s been established that what they do is playing havoc with the biosphere, each new havoc inducing revelation is almost superfluous.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 21, 2021 6:02 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

You could say the same for Off Guardian – who funds it? And how do you know?

I think there’s an argument to be made that the “9/11 truth” movement is funded by the royal family of Saudi Arabia.

Gets them out of the dock.

CCR
CCR
Sep 21, 2021 10:52 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

How about Corbett solutions; creating new communities, growing Bananas in the backyard, alternative currencies,,,,, like those mothers and their armies are going to let you do that.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 22, 2021 7:32 AM
Reply to  CCR

Some people have been doing this for 10+ years, some have got gov funding in the UK, search Transition towns.

Some eco communities have been going longer, look at the LAND Projects lists with your local Permaculture association.

CCR
CCR
Sep 23, 2021 10:51 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

I am involved in various projects of this nature at this moment, I was thinking when the boots march.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 1:07 PM
Reply to  Edwige

As much as I like the video in question, I will concede that Mr Corbett is by far and away at his weakest when being sarcastic (as he almost always is regarding the climate, e.g.).

I did not take his apparent equation of “No planes” with “No viruses” to be a refutation of either view – merely an inclusion of two extremely important views in with the other views presented. Though I will note that the proponents of both views do generally assume a rather superior attitude regarding their “finding.” Hence his sarcastic rendering of these views.

Also, I would question your conclusion that 911 Truth has prepared numbers of people to see through the COVID scam. I believe, rather, than anyone willing to look outside the mainstream for information would conclude the “scamdemic” to be just that – whether or not they had a basis in history for such a conclusion.

One other thing: regarding the No Planes view: it has of course been suggested that those who “saw” the planes hit the Twin Towers were paid operatives. As to the Pentagon, I personally know someone who was at the Pentagon when it was hit – and she states categorically that it WAS a plane. Yet, a plane traveling so fast and swooping down in a corkscrew pattern would have been almost impossible for anyone right there to have seen – wouldn’t it?

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 1:52 PM
Reply to  Howard

I recall one documentry type investigation around 2008 interviewed many witnesses around the Pentagon, some stand out in my memory, the taxi driver was one, in the pics his cab has a road lighting pole through the windscreen on the bridge, his story had more holes than a collender, they kept the camera rolling whilst the taxi driver thought it was off in the back of the car returnnig from the bridge where he swore his taxi had been hundreds of yrds from where it was pictured, he was warning the camera crew saying “you don’t know who you are dealing with, these are dangerous people” his wife worked for the CIA.

Other witnesess were police officers at the petrol station, the film crew showed pictures with the flight line drawn on though the downed lighting poles on the bridge, orientating the pics to the real life view, the officer was adamant the plane he saw could not have taken that path.

At least half a dozen witnesses corrobrated the officers statement.

A hypothesis was suggested the plane had done a low pass over the pentagon, this view was blostered by examining the witnesses views of the flight path, over the Naval collage.

I think the evidence supports a flyover, tho obviously from the small hole and lack of wreckage, no plane hit the pentagon.

I’ve tried to find the film again a few yrs ago to no avail, it was posted on Pilots for 911Truth forum originally but no idea what happened to it.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

I recall seeing that very film myself. I, too, found the taxi driver less than credible.

I’m wondering now if the film was on History Channel, or some such – or if it was on one of the many 911 documentary DVDs I have.

If by chance I find it on a DVD I’ll get back and let you know the name of the documentary.

BTW, James Corbett had listed a website – televisionarchive.org – as a great source for ALL news items that had ever been on TV.

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 3:50 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

The guy is called Lloyde England (odd spelling)

The interview is probably this?

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 5:09 PM
Reply to  someone

Oddly his obituary is on an international law enforcement Motorcycle club page the “Blue Knights” even though it does not mention he ever was in the Police:

http://www.md1blueknights.org/Heaven-One.html

The site and its affiliates looks a bit odd.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 22, 2021 2:15 PM
Reply to  someone

Thanks for that, I think this is a followup on the doc I watched, by the same team

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 21, 2021 3:47 PM
Reply to  Edwige

… Corbett implies an equivalence between “no planes on 9/11” and “no viruses”. They are not equivalent at all – the former dismisses something thousands of people saw with their own eyes.

I know someone who was in NY on the day who said he saw a plane head to the South tower, however, whatever he saw it certainly wasn’t Flight 175 and that’s what counts. None of the four planes alleged to have crashed on 9/11 did which means none of the alleged 265 passengers died in a plane. Whatever was flying around or not flying around (someone told me an MI5 agent told him they used holograms and that’s been said elsewhere) the alleged flights didn’t crash so no alleged passengers died.

There were no planes and there is clear evidence there is “novel” virus. It’s very straightforward.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 21, 2021 4:39 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

someone told me an MI5 agent told him they used holograms

Yup. We had to get there eventually. 🤦‍♀️

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 22, 2021 1:41 AM

Actually, should have pointed out that John Lear, the very experienced pilot and son of founder of Lear Jet, also mentioned holograms and showed video of how realistic they are. John was very vocal on the unreality of the planes but when I contacted him on Messenger recently to ask about his reticence now he didn’t respond.

I certainly cannot say that holograms were used of course because I wasn’t there for a start and even if I had been how would I necessarily know? The person I know who saw a plane certainly thought it was a real plane.

What they showed us though is very obviously not a real plane and therefore we have this discrepancy between witnesses seeing what they believed was a real plane but the video not showing a real plane. There must be an explanation about which we can only speculate. On the one hand holograms sound as unlikely to me as they do to most people I’m sure however one does have to wonder what people saw and sometimes very seemingly unlikely things just happen to be true.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 22, 2021 10:49 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Can you explain why you trust Lear, son of a major establishment figure, positing holograms, but think a scientist positing thermite is ‘controlled opposition’?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 22, 2021 11:00 AM

I don’t really “trust” anyone, Sophie, and I’m pretty sure John Lear is controlled opposition because he’s gone quiet on the planes now (part of the seeming plan to move almost exclusive focus to the buildings), however, CO tells some – even a great deal of – truth, of course. But in any case I believe that John Lear was only putting it forward as a possible explanation as – of course – am I. It’s only a POSSIBLE explanation for the strange phenomenon of witnesses seeing a plane while what they show us is clearly CGI. It could be that it was just a small plane that was able to fly at that low altitude or something else. It’s all speculation. I don’t challenge thermite necessarily Sophie. For all I know thermite was used, don’t have an opinion on it. As far as I’m concerned we know it was controlled demolition and that’s sufficient – arguing about what type of CD is a form of distraction propaganda in my opinion.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 22, 2021 12:26 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

So rambling on endlessly about anything from fake dust in the towers to 11ft mannequins to hologram planes to ‘nobody died’ is what? Helping to get ‘the truth’ out there? But doing experiments to prove thermite was in the WTC dust is just a distraction?

🤦‍♀️

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 23, 2021 5:08 AM

I think it unfair to say I ramble on endlessly about holograms and 11ft mannequins, Sophie. You do rather strawman.

I retracted my claims on the mannequins so I’d appreciate it if you didn’t refer to the mannequins again.

I am unsure about the dust but there needs to be an explanation for the massive layer of dust we see at the WTC which cannot be explained by normal controlled demolition (thermite or other-explosive) as far as I’m aware. So I’m not claiming there definitely WAS dust in the buildings, just saying that there might have been and that hidden dust is a POSSIBLE explanation for the massive layer of dust. If you have an explanation for the dust at the WTC you think more probable Sophie I’m all ears. However, while I think there “needs to be an explanation” it’s not important – on a par with what exactly was used to bring down the buildings and whether holograms were used – and I’m very happy to let the theory of hidden-dust-in-buildings go. I certainly don’t want it to be a distraction.

Why do you think it’s important about whether thermite was used or just plain old dynamite or whatever, Sophie?

Yes, I do go on about staged death and injury – that I will certainly admit to because I think it’s the pivotal truth of 9/11. Yes, so I will beat my drum, I will go on ad nauseam because that – to me – is the pivotal truth.

It’s not just that staged death and injury transforms 9/11 from “inside job” to massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as real in the manner of Sandy Hook, the Manchester bombing and various other fully staged events – apart from the actual destruction of buildings of course – it’s not just that it happens to be the truth, it’s the significance of the propaganda strategy that has been used to make the anticipated disbelievers of their cockamamie terrorist story – a strategy that gags us with controlled demolition while gradually leading us away from the more revealing planes all the better to maintain our belief in real death and injury.

It’s how they have controlled the anticipated disbelievers’ minds.

And it’s how that propaganda strategy has stymied us from getting out the truth – armed with the important truth of CD but the equally important lie of real death and injury the disbelievers are hamstrung in propagating the truth because those two pieces of the 9/11 jigsaw simply won’t fit together. They repel each other like two positive magnets. People won’t come at the heinous cold-bloodedness of letting all those poor people die in the buildings. I have to admit, of course, that the power elite are killing far, far more people now with the vaccine and in other ways – far, far more – but the circumstances of the killing are completely different.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 23, 2021 4:22 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

CGI is the answer. TV fakery.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 23, 2021 5:42 AM
Reply to  New Nane

Yes, TV fakery, but what about what people saw on the day? I know someone who said he saw a plane heading to the South tower and I believe him when he says he saw something, he seems very level-headed, not the type to somehow “imagine” he saw a plane just because it was reported in the media 24/7. But who knows? Maybe his mind was controlled to think he saw it because of media indoctrination, I don’t know. I have to say I do find it intriguing to know if some aeronautical device was used or if it was a hologram or whatever, however, I know it’s not important because what’s important is what they showed us and they didn’t show us real planes … and what’s even more important is that we know none of the alleged airliners were used so we know the passengers were faked – that’s the most important fact about the planes – faked passengers.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Sep 21, 2021 11:07 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

“they used holograms”

What happened to Occam’s razor?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 23, 2021 6:07 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

Assuming people saw something on the day if you have a good explanation for what they saw I’d love to hear it. I think holograms sounds farfetched too but who knows?

This is video of pretty convincing-looking holograms and, apparently, they can be viewed in daylight.

https://www.seattleu.edu/media/college-of-science-and-engineering/files/undergraduatedepartments/physics/physfest/Holography.pdf

The point I want to emphasise though is we don’t know what people saw – if anything.
— Were they just made to believe they saw something after the fact with the 24/7 media bombardment?
— Were real aeronautical devices used of one kind or another?
— Were holograms used?

We don’t know and probably never will but most importantly it doesn’t matter. We know the four alleged planes didn’t crash and thus the deaths of the 265 passengers were faked – that’s what we need to know and we know it!

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 21, 2021 5:59 PM
Reply to  Edwige

The claim the 9/11 [truth] movement failed seems more and more like subtle black-pilling to me.

If it’s failed it’s probably because it’s bollocks.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Sep 21, 2021 9:33 AM

I’ve posted a few times this hour and it seems it’s not just the BBC/ABC that has a black out on what’s going on in Melbourne right now. OffG also does not want to let people know whats going on. “Facts Should Be Sacred” Yea right.

Victoria State cops have lost control, been out numbered and pushed back. Full riot is on and some protestors have been mowed down by cops in vehicles. Many have been shot with projectiles.

The Tradie Union which is run by biker gangs has been exposed for representing the Vic State rather than it’s members. Also seems a little strange why these people, (being tough bikers an all) Called in the riot squad to bail them out.

Many other towns are being locked down as a result in order to prevent knock on effects.

All in the name of Covid Safety, off course. Let not forget folks, this about a virus found in a Bat soup.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 21, 2021 10:18 AM

How self-involved and self-important are you? The comments are full of people commenting on what is going down in Australia, but because your oh-so important observation is held up we must be censoring you!

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Sep 21, 2021 10:39 AM

Well stop filtering.

We’re at fucking war down here and I DO MEAN THAT SINCERELY.

Meanwhile you guys are discussing pearls of wisdom by jimmy corbert.

Australia is under the spot light, correct? The example for the rest of the world. Well here it is… All countries should stand and support us now, else it comes to you.

Also, we have jabs for teens in the post and booster jabs to aggravate the lambs who went to slaughter first. So we could have a upraise from multiple sectors.

Was this the plan? Perhaps, but I doubt it. These twats have gone into their bunkers and left their 55k per year storm troopers to take the shit.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 21, 2021 11:31 AM

FYI – this place reaches a lot more people and has done a lot more to get information out there than you and your occasional BTL comments. The struggle does not currently hinge on whether you get read immediately or have to wait an hour while I’m working on something else. So cut the Messianic BS.

And if we didn’t filter incoming comments your contribution and everyone else’s would be washed away on a tide of spam and trolling and obscenity you can’t even imagine.

It’s only because of our due diligence 24/7 that these forums remain functional for your use. Please remember that.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 21, 2021 1:49 PM

WTF is ‘The Tradie Union’?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 21, 2021 2:03 PM

You’ll need a Telegram account to view these videos as they won’t play here, but this linked site below has had a lot of video coverage of the protests today in Melbourne. As well, an independent journalist here, Real Rukshan has extended video coverage on his Facebook and Twitter pages.
Real Rukshan was sent death threats today by hysterical covid zombies in the “worlds most livable city” for daring to show the protests unfiltered. Unlike the filth at the MSM who have lied and smeared and censored every single day. There are a lot of pissed off people here in Melbourne.
Police here again used rubber bullets, tear gas and pepper spray like they did yesterday. There was an unverified report police were seen with grenade launchers.
They have behaved like Gestapo thugs on steroids, and now they are getting a taste of their own medicine.
https://t.me/ausforfreedom/2794

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 21, 2021 9:06 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

This is a letter I sent to most media toda, none will publish it. The pollies rant and lie on a daily basis claiming the black death is roaming the earth and we are all disease laden beasts who should be demonised and abused if we just want to live our lives.

The media rant and lie and peddle poison like the worst kind of drug dealers without ever stating that the drug companies have all be fined multiple times for peddling deadly drugs like opioids, lyrica, vioxx, pandremix and useless things like Tamiflu as if they are getting funds from big pharma.

The scientists rant and lie and peddle ”models” and poison jabs and we know they are funded by big pharma, Doherty alone has a $3.9 million grant from Pfizer which is obviously buying Pfizer plenty of peddling time.  Last week Pfizer had all their anti smoking goods stopped because they cause cancer yet our media and pollies treat them like gods.

The cops in their little blue face nappies fire rubber bullets, pepper spray and tear gas at workers who just want to work and the human rights lawyers are all snivelling and cowering in their bunkers while old women are being thrown to the ground and pepper sprayed.

Shame on the damn lot of you gutlless fools.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 22, 2021 1:33 AM

It’s 1984 here now Marilyn… all dissent is silenced, only the “official newspeak” aka the covid narrative from APPROVED sources, like the filth media, puppet politicians, puppet Chief Health Officer’s and from Gates funded organisations like the WHO and Imperial College is permitted.
That’s it… Free speech is verboten. Why do you think there’s been such a huge wave of censorship on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube? Why do you think so many accounts of people who contradicted the “official” covid narrative have been deleted.
The facade of “democracy” is definitely over Marilyn.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 22, 2021 1:06 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah, I think the report about grenade launchers was most likely correct. Fucking bastards are very proud of their new weapons that, of course, will only be deployed in order to ‘minimise harm’.

A 175-shot pepper ball semi-automatic rifle that fires capsicum rounds and blunt-force pellets the size of marbles, or dye markers to brand offenders so they can be identified and arrested later.

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A 40-millimetre launcher that fires a hard, squash ball-like projectile that can hit an offender at a range of 50 metres and lands with the impact of a “very hard punch”.

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Stinger grenades that can be rolled into a crowd and explode with light and smoke while releasing nine 32-calibre rubber pellets to waist height with a range of five metres.

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Flash/noise distraction devices designed to shock and disperse violent crowds.

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Capsicum canisters – a crowd control weapon of last resort that detonates to release a cloud of capsicum in events such as a prison riot.

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Ultra-light, flexible body armour, shields and helmets.

Pepper balls and stinger grenades: The weapons police are using against demonstrators

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 22, 2021 1:23 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

Morning Cliff… I haven’t checked anything today except for the earthquake an hour ago… First time I’ve experienced an earthquake in 17 years in Australia.
All this riot gear and advanced weaponry was bought in for Event Covid, because the psychopaths have not only planned this for a long time, but they knew there would be major protests and social unrest. They’ve actually been militarising the police all over the world for years. Just saw an image before of a construction worker who had been shot in the head with a rubber bullet.
As I said to you in my reply last night which, incidentally, went straight to spam as well, there is something very dark, corrupt and rotten here in Melbourne. Its like this bright, glittery facade on the surface, but underneath…

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 21, 2021 2:37 PM

tough bikers (and their squeezes) always seem to have fat arses and walk like they’ve just shat their pants, and need to take a walk in the countryside, instead of stinking up the air, drowning out the birdsong, and growing facial hair on beautiful sunny days.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 8:08 AM

One thing that has stuck me is how amateurish this covid coverage has been even from the start. It struck me again while watching Nurse Erin’s video which was a genuine docu investigating to find out the truth. But it was prefaced with clips from the other side and we had e.g. Andrew Cuomo’s impassioned outburst about making choices over who lives and dies. And when I heard him, I once again felt the basic cheapness of the production.

And it seems to me that there are indeed vast numbers of real documentaries out there made by real grown-ups as opposed to this relatively small number of well-produced but excruciatingly childish bulletins with shit scripts and awful actors e.g. the ITN reader talking about how the “pressure on the NHS is off the scale” and the little movie wheeling cameras round wards intoning about the death and devastation without showing any of it beyond one “sufferer” who wasn’t doing too badly and who was shown twice!

And then there is the clip of the young woman dying for lack of breath. It’s in “artful” black and white and she’s suspiciously attractive – clearly a professional actress.

So there are many genuine people making genuine investigative films but a tiny number of overgrown infants churning out lavishly funded but unbelievably crass cartoon like crud. The difference is that the latter play constantly across the media non-stop while the real stuff is shown at the margins.

And considering how vast numbers of the public have fallen for the crap I assume that either they don’t hear the other side or “the voice of authority” impresses them or they are just plain dumb and can’t see when they are being had. 

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 8:15 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It doesn’t have to fool you, its just got to fool the marching morons. The endless TV and cinema dumbing has turned every serious idea into childish dress up and 3 word slogan signalling and so that’s the level they aim at.

Moving media has intentionally created a post literate society, which in itself has lost the ability to hold any complex ideas at all. You can see and feel it everywhere.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 1:28 PM
Reply to  someone

You’re on the money with talk of how the public have been trained by decades of Hollywood scripts. Cuomo’s performance as Mr Angry Self Righteous Outrage would have been fine in The Towering Inferno. Surely it must have drawn irrepressible guffaws from major sectors of the populace, none of which would ever have been heard on the media.

So there you are at home and on come the talking heads with, “Oh my Gahd the strain on the entire universe is off the scale! It’s a slim chance but it might just work! How can we choose between this sweet old dear and this lovely little baby?” And you nearly bust your gut with hilarity. BUT IT ALL GETS TREATED WITH DEADLY EARNESTNESS NON-STOP!.

So you just stare dumbfounded. Is it a joke? And you turn to your previously trusted Left sites AND THEY’RE EVEN WORSE!

Hollywood has invaded reality itself!

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 21, 2021 2:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Art used to imitate life , until propagandist’s discovered that life as imitated by art is much more useful to our overlords . Baudrillard has it right !

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 2:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Trusted left sites. Now that is funny.

Those orgs always smelled fake, even when I was young and trusting. Same as the supposed opposition.

When info became available online and you could start to find little known snippets knocking about, every single one looked like a stooge, a useful moron or an outright spook (not mutually exclusive). Fake origin stories, red flag connections and unfeasible coincidences abound.

Moving media just takes the same patterns initially wrapped in the spoon full of sugar of ideological writings created for the newly literate working class and injects it directly into your lower brain without you even noticing.

Its achieved what all the fake ideology movements failed to do and that is mass acceptance of self negation and loss of agency.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Sep 21, 2021 10:40 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I’m very glad to hear it. I’ve said all along that fucking with builders isn’t a good idea. We’re strong, and we’re hard and we’re used to being in dangerous situations on a daily basis, with our lives in each others’ hands, literally, quite often. We are used to thinking for ourselves and going in there to sort shit out. We are used to dealing with blaggers, dickheads and soft handed box tickers and we don’t take very kindly to being told what to do by any of them. If you were to raise an army from the general public, we are the people who you want on your side, and in my experience, lots of us have seen the whole covid psyop for what it is, and we’ve got the fuck on with living our lives and ignoring the bullshit.

Huge respect to my Aussie brothers out there.

edit: That reply was meant for WorkingClassHero by the way.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I hate to be a nay-sayer about almost everything; but if the Nurse Erin video you mention is the same hour long video with the same Nurse Erin I watched – my impression was that it had an uncomfortably fake ring to it.

I mean, she was busy filming right there in the midst of regular hospital work, questioning and contradicting doctors about hypothetical and theoretical overviews of what was happening. And no one thought to have her removed?

A little too contrived.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 21, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  Howard

It absolutely drives me nuts all the fake controlled opposition pushed out. Absolutely drives me nuts. I’m so sick of watching everything through the suspicious lens of, “Is this for real?” I just watched medical staff in a ProjectVeritas video comaplaining about adverse effects of the vaccine and it felt so very curated … but I’m not sure. Also, just watched a video about a woman who was indecently assaulted by the police in Australia. Really wasn’t convinced. It’s awful to think that you might judge something as fake when it could be real. Of course, most things that are fake just as easily could be real because they depict what I know is happening but it’s just not the real instance, it’s the fake instance.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 21, 2021 4:28 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

It’s awful to think that you might judge something as fake when it could be real

That’s the first time I have seen you say anything like that. Good to know you are at least aware how potentially distressing/inappropriate it could be to accuse real grieving or dead people of fakery. I wish that awareness would be reflected in the way you address that subject on here. You could express the same opinions but just use more sensitive and nuanced language to do so.

Rosemary Frei
Rosemary Frei
Sep 21, 2021 9:52 PM

That’s a strange comment Sophie – Admin1. You’re tut-tutting Petra for not using ‘more sensitive and nuanced language.’ Petra’s words weren’t inappropriate at all.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 22, 2021 4:32 AM

Sophie, to be a psyop analyst you need to be ruthlessly detached – like them. You really cannot afford to be too sensitive about whether a claim of fakery of death and injury is 100% correct. I have to say it was a bit of a surprise to me when in response to my saying deaths were fake, friends would say that they’d punch my lights out if they were the loved ones and they dared me to track down the supposed loved ones and tell them to their faces. I was only telling my friend what I thought, why should he be so upset? If someone told me a loved one wasn’t really dead it wouldn’t upset me so much as perplex me. I’d be like, “No, that person’s dead.” But I see people find it a taboo subject … and of course that’s what the perps rely on and which is why you simply cannot afford to be too sensitive. Of course, one must do one’s best to feel certain that fakery is going on, one does one’s best but I do not treat the subject as taboo, obviously.

I have to say that I must be very, very careful not to say no one died or was injured except where it’s obvious such as at Sandy Hook. I know two people who have relatives in Beirut who were affected by the bomb blast – one woman got glass in her legs from a shattered window and another man had his car spin around and no doubt serious injury and even death resulted from that bomb blast – however, what they SHOWED us was obviously fake. This is the thing – they control the narrative and we don’t know what’s really going on from the media.

We KNOW that people are being harmed in very large numbers and killed in significant numbers by the alleged “vaccine” but the only stories I 100% believe that I’ve seen in the media about harm are the story of Channel 7 journalist, Denham Hitchcock (pericarditis) and NSW Liberal politician, Victor Dominello (Bell’s Palsy). I believe their stories, every other story I’ve seen I’m not sure about or can tell very clearly is a psyop such as the story about Maddie de Garay whose mother has interesting connections – https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/07/01/calling-all-critical-thinkers/

They control the narrative even when they’re actually saying stuff that completely aligns with the truth … it’s just different when it’s coming from them than when it’s actual reality.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 22, 2021 12:52 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

My apartment building started shaking a little while ago. My first thought was: “OMG, we’ve been hit by a hologram!”, but it was only an earthquake.

Victoria earthquake: Melbourne, Geelong, Gippsland residents report violent shaking

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 23, 2021 4:33 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

It was CGI on 9/11.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 22, 2021 7:46 AM
Reply to  Howard

All I can say is that the Nurse Erin film is the most convincing video I’ve yet seen about the “pandemic” in a hospital setting. The pro-covid narrative ones I’ve seen have been so obviously empty that I fail to see how anyone could be taken in by them unless that’s the whole point? Perhaps this is a double bluff thing?

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 22, 2021 8:06 AM
Reply to  George Mc

But on reflection that doen’t seem likely. The main trust of the covid propanda has been precisely through the brutally dumbass videos. If Nurse Erin presents some kind of “fall back” position then it’s one we can all agree on surely. Her claims are damning e.g. faking covid deaths for the sake of getting more money – the money offer obviously being to encourage inflation of figures.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 7:33 AM

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Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 8:19 AM

I hope no one here will jump to the conclusion that, by creating and posting this graphic, I am endorsing the notion that there has been an actual “COVID-19” pan-/epidemic. There has, obviously, been a wholly conceptual, media-driven “pandemic“, and we may now be seeing the emergence of an “epidemic” of deaths due to the toxic injections. Both are as useful to absolute power as what the author of the quoted text is referring to when he uses the word “epidemic”.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 6:43 AM

UK Column News – 20th September 2021

U.S. Strengthens Military Foothold in Australia
Despite new alliance, UK remains in European military union
In addition to U.S. Marines in Rockhampton, Queensland. Just north of that you are into East Timor and the Spratly Islands and the nine-dash line that demarcates Chinese territory.
France recalled ambassadors after Australia dropped submarine deal, switched from regular to nuclear powered. The European Defence Agency and specifically British-French nuclear interoperability have taken a back seat. French and German press fears exclusion from latest technology.
Brian Gerrish: this decision must have been in the planning for at least a year… it was not quick.
Alex Thomson: Five Eyes is purely about signals intelligence so it could not be the reason for excluding the French because they would not be a party anyway. The Times here is referring to the cultural bias and not trusting the French. It is a reversal of WW1 where the French engaged the British through Earl Grey. Now the British have publicly swung away.

European Union Turns To United Nations
Reverts to Build Back Better rhetoric
EU External Action Service (EU for min):

‘EU and the UN hold a partnership that delivers.

#UNGA is the opportunity to look into the future and lead the way to #BuildBackBetter together.

Alex Thomson: ‘You have not left for defence purposes’ — Britain remains in the EU for military cooperation although the state-corporatist media has not toild the British people this.
Britain is the swing state. It is the only state that is in all the main military fora. It’s almost as if Britain did not lose its empire or leave the EU.

Military Procurement In The Spotlight
Britain invests £170 million in designers of next generation submarines
Brian Gerrish: something is going on under the water — for years the UK has been dismantling its military and manufacturing. The public has not been told.

Britain eyes unmanned ground vehicles based on Israel’s Jaguar.
Defence and Security Equipment International show promotes AI and Robotics
Army wants to invent equipment ‘as needed’ once war begins
Lt. Gen. James Hockenhull, chief of defense intelligence service (DIS) pushes AI but worries about hacking.
Alex Thomson: it’s only a decade since Geoff Hoon shrunk the DIS staff so it could fit into a shared building — so that he could sell a building off. That’s why they need computers to do the thinking.

Is Australia Being Roped In To Help Finance The British Army?
Royal Navy to buy off-the-shelf products, mulls modular ships; few supply chains are sovereign, UK military admits; flying boats to disperse decentralized U.S. Marines.
Alex Thomoson: Australia is flush with cash. Perhaps that’s its role in AUKUS.

U.S. Marines Admits That Troops Need More Experience
Defence One — The Marines Are Looking for a Few Older People, says Gen. David Berger:

“Have we trained that individual properly to understand the ramifications of ‘do I pull the trigger? Do I not pull the trigger?’ Do I know what I need to know to execute mission-type orders and carry out the nation’s bidding based on what I have seen and what I think is going to happen?”

Brian Gerrish: Afghanistan showed that many young soldiers struggled with policing and some U.S. troops abandoned rules of engagement because it stopped them fighting. This is more evidence of confusion in defence planning: military force or peacekeeping role.

ENERGY CRISIS
Suspend Climate Policies And Ensure Security Of Supply
Stop subsidies and carbon taxes and abandon COP26 says think tank
Global Warming Policy Forum gives evidence to UK Gov, expresses concern at ‘renewables’.
Recent energy crisis is evidence that Net Zero policy is heading for disaster and Green New Deal will hurt the poor most.
BBC parrots UK Gov ‘Gas Explainer’

Exercise Celsius will model a UK energy crisis on Sep 29-30, 2021
Alex Thomson: the Dutch have the same policy but discuss it openly — unlike the secretive Brits. Three years ago Dutch Gov said they would ban gas-fired boilers in new-build homes, and have begun laying down communal heat networks. Contrast this with the British proposal where gas will just become unaffordable.

NANNY STATE
UK To Add Folic Acid To Bread To Stop Birth Defects
Less worried about vaccine adverse effects on babies
MHRA Yellow Card: Abortions 5, Fatalities 1; Spontaneous/threatened abortions: 537, Fatalities 12

Visits To Doctor Down 80 Million Compared With 2019 – Down 60% Last Year
Press blames it on the virus
Mail — Growing toll of cancers and devastating illnesses missed by ‘remote’ doctors

UK Contract For Home Quarantine Suggests Travel Restrictions May Return
Gov dropped traffic light system last week — so what’s this?
Advert: Track and Trace Driver – Project Echo, length up to 36 months
Project ECHO: Enhanced Compliance for Health Outcomes — Quarantining at Home

Propaganda For Children Masquerading As Consent Form
Coronavirus vaccine consent form for children and young people 12-15
No requirement for parental consent

NHS Uses NLP in Intersectionality and Workforce Race Equality Document
Wording reveals strategy has nothing to do with people’s health @00:57:00
Does the opposite to what it claims: ‘We want people to understand what they’re doing’ — it says, in noun-heavy, brain-fogging jargon.
‘Crafting a compelling public narrative to inspire action and social change.’

Who is behind it? — Harvard Kennedy School ie Rockefeller. Marshall Ganz, lecturer and founder of The Leading Change Network: https://leadingchangenetwork.org/building-capacityhttps://rippelfoundation.orghttps://rethinkhealth.org
Brian Gerrish: this is why the NHS is failing. This dross is getting in the way of treating people.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-20th-september-2021

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 21, 2021 9:17 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

aUStralia.
It rhymes with failure.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 6:41 AM

14:55 Nice to finally hear the tone of condescension I’ve so far only read here in the offG comments…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 6:15 AM

Sydney police sexually assault mother and nurse under pretext of ‘papers please’.

This is the applied psychology, the ‘reframing’, the Common Purpose that the UK has sold to Australia.

This is the creation of British civil servants and industry-backed ‘charities’ inflicted on an Australian woman of east European descent.

If this happened to Pussy Riot the hypocrites at the lying BBC and the lying Guardian would faking indignation in their fake Oxbridge accents.

https://twitter.com/AussieVal10/status/1439545787789156354

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Sep 21, 2021 6:57 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

A disgrace. The new breed of cop in Australia are programmed to use force. The problem is they have recruited for the most part an army of overweight limp noodles, who require several to take down 50kg women.

Further, I’ve noticed many women in the force lately. Likely because they are running out of male options, as no logical person would sign up for a corrupt institute, be hated by the public and have bottles chucked at them at protests, all for the grand total of 55k aus per year.

Seems any chick wanting to get involved are the tom boy types. Hence the promotion of the rainbow vehicles to make them feel at home. Don’t discriminate against them, but they can discriminate against you. Custom designed to divide us more, as they have an axe to grind.

Ask these twats to seek out and arrest those involved in the pedophile rings and they are busy ordering coffee and doughnuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63DeljvoH0 amazingly this tube has only several thousand hits. While an unboxing of a phone gets millions.

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 7:12 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Growing toll of cancers and devastating illnesses missed by ‘remote’ doctors”

A Barts man examines the patient with one hand in the pocket of his white coat. A Kings man examines the patient with both hands in his pockets. A Con man examines the patient over the phone.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Sep 21, 2021 10:20 AM
Reply to  NickM

Yep if you want genuine medical attention you’ll have to pay for it in future. The NHS is being wound up to be privatised and replaced by an American-style privatised system of health insurance. It isn’t very good, not particularly effective and certainly overpriced. US health spending on % GDP 17.1. The UK and basically the rest of Europe is between 7 and 11%.

This coming Friday I will have to undergo a small surgical procedure to be carried out in a very plush private hospital which will last for 30 minutes during which time I will be awake. This was an urgent matter which could not be put off. Oh yes, the cost. Anything between £800 to £1000.

BTW I have just heard outside my window the siren of an ambulance tearing up and down the road. It is a common sound with sirens blaring to all and sundry. Of course the ambulances are empty, but the authorities just want to keep the public on edge and fearful about the prevalence of the dreaded Covid. It’s all rather crude and unconvincing psychological warfare. Who do they think they are kidding!?

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2021 8:16 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Pussy Riot – Jeez what a load of crap they were. Moody photogenic young ones having a porno-orgy in a Moscow Museum. How rad! But these are “our protesters”, “our close-to-the-edge freedom fighters”? Another fake revolution.

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 21, 2021 10:43 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Pussy Riot also commited a sex act in front of church goers, but that’s all fine and dandy – I wouldn’t have a problem with my parents being at mass and a bunch of state sponsored actors jumped in front of the congregation and started masturbating, all good, no probs – I even know someone who knitted a pussy riot hat. Guess what, she also Facebooked her friends to tell them she’s been vaxxed. Whoopee! I think the conditioning was created long before Covid arrived.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Sep 21, 2021 8:53 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Would be nice if I could know your nationality, are your views backed by factual or social personal opinions? What office…my guess 250.000 are you referring to.
250k is that close? How many civil servants are there in the whole British Isles, and globally employed, and how many cultures languages Nationalities!??

BBC is the Worlds largest broadcasting Global Corporation is that not also correct?
Digitally Net-speech isn’t Oxford English is it?
Would you agree talk Net is post 1972?
What is English, 1985, 1992, 1999.
What is your opinion on the language of the United Kingdom, does it ‘match’ net speech and how often is it supplement updated, upgraded to include translations.

Where were you born, I was born in the North East of England, you?

What secrets, A Great Many must know, would you not also find it remarkable and, how many Years and vast amount of resources and manpower went into these filed indexed secret services and from what did you say …Civil Service?
Which where who how would be helpfull as a starting point.
Thank You

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Sep 21, 2021 10:00 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yes, I think that I could say that this was one of the most disgusting episodes I have witnessed during the whole pandemic. In terms of police brutality, there where three Sydney police heavies who had pinned the woman to the ground, pulled up her clothes for everyone to see, whilst just stopping short of actual rape. It was frankly outrageous and constituted a crime against humanity.

The woman in question during the brutal assault was a trainee nurse who later, courageously, appeared on the TV and was obviously very visibly traumatized.

This is what we are up against, the iron fist of the PTB. The other wing are the bought and paid for hacks who write for the Guardian and other such outlets.

juno
juno
Sep 21, 2021 5:22 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Wow, real life Clockwork Orange.Of course that is one moral of that book most people miss, that most of the droogs graduate to policemen and enforcers…

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 21, 2021 5:59 AM

My cheery thought for the day;

Well I’ve come to the conclusion that along with this being depopulation and God knows what else Australia has been sold out by international Kabal agreement either to the US or China. High vaccination rates make no sense in a country with such a low population density. They don’t really care what we do. Burn the place to the ground, whatever. 1 Billion Chinese. 26 Million Australians. Think about it.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 21, 2021 6:02 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

How else would you get China to agree to the plan?

John
John
Sep 21, 2021 6:08 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

and New Zealand.

Juniper Bean
Juniper Bean
Sep 21, 2021 8:03 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

I agree with you that it does appear that somehow, for some reason, both Australia and NZ have been “thrown to the dogs” so to speak. And clearly, the growing tension between China and the US plays a large role in this. What’s horrifying is the almost complete news shut down re what is actually happening in Australia. You would be hard pressed to find any information in the US or UK corporate media about what is unfolding. I guess I always knew that news had to be sought out by the reader, but I didn’t realise until now just how controlled it was.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 3:45 PM
Reply to  Juniper Bean

Since the “ruling elites” seem to have their eyes on Oceania in case the Northern Hemisphere goes bust, they might have some sort of plan to first depopulate the areas?

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Sep 21, 2021 10:31 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

1.4 billion Chinese actually.

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 21, 2021 5:49 AM

Peter Koenig, in the years I have followed his articles has always been a reliable person. Below is an excerpt from his last article– about graphene. I have been able to confirm that graphene is liquid and easily penetrates cells, also that in conjunction w metallic nanoparticles it forms a magnetic system. Further, some of the psychopaths have been spending big money investigating the uses of graphene.

I am asking for your help, for more info about it, and about the Fifth Column’s Spanish Research Team mentioned. If what Peter says in the excerpt can be substantiated it gives us the power to stop the entire covid operation. The excerpt:

“According to the Fifth Column’s Spanish Research Team, about 90% or more of the “vaxx-fluid” in the mRNA-formula consists of Graphene. – Graphene is the secret of the Agenda ID2020 – which was patented by Gates with a (luciferian) patent No. 666.

Triple-six, 666, is also the chemical formula of graphene itself — 6 molecules attached in a ring, attached to other such rings. The symbol they’re using is 3 attached rings.

Graphene inoculated by the mRNA-injection, forms immediately a neural net in the brain. It is a one molecule thick net that spontaneously grows around the brain from the graphene contained in the vaxx. Electromagnetic waves emanating from the soon millions of 5G / 6G antennas around the world, are supposed to convert humans into “transhumans” (term used by Klaus Schwab, in his interview with the Swiss-French TV in 2016. The internet link to the interview has since been “fact-checked” out.

This may explain the enormous time-pressure behind the vaxx-drive; because once you are injected with the mRNA-concoction you are affected in one way or another. Either your health is endangered, or as outlined by Klaus Schwab (video below) you may become a “transhuman” which can be manipulated by robots and /or Artificial intelligence (AI). ” https://www.globalresearch.ca/worldwide-resistance-against-vaccine-covid-fraud/5755538

Partial confirmation is contained in this link posted by Marilyn Shepard https://nobulart.com/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/

Perhaps when Klaus Schwab spoke about transforming us into transhumans THIS is what he was talking about– not some event in the future!

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 9:12 AM
Reply to  Penelope

smoke & mirrors re Graphine, their sample 4b in their paper is a standard sample from the literature, not obtained by them from the vax sample – watch whitney webb discussing the findings of the original Spanish study from which these pictures are taken to spot the subdefuge.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 9:44 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

Is Webb credible. She did good work but has her boundaries.

Gatti and Montanari showed vaccines are full of metals. Graphene is the great hope for cell repair and nanostructures. Why would it not be in such an evident and massive trial?

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 21, 2021 10:46 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

You watched it, she lays it out from the Spanish original, you can follow it in real time. You know the 4b pic in the link Penelope posted is taken from the original Spanish study, that only included it as an example from the literature, an example of what needs to be shown to prove graphine is in the sample, the study that claimed they could NOT find definitive proof of Graphine.

Don’t you find Webbs reading of the Spanish study credible? What leads you to question Webbs credibility on this?

Why would it not be in such an evident and massive trial?

I have no idea if it’s in it or not, the claim is it’s not proven.

Nothing shown in the linked studies proves it is in the samples, claiming the 4b pic is from the sample and not from the original study only as an example from the literature is disinformation pure and simple.

Why would I trust a study containing known misinformation as credible? And more to the point why do YOU trust it? What specific point does Webb make on this that now leads you to question her credibility?

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 22, 2021 5:01 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Moneycircus, Dr. Robert Young’s team published a thorough report re metal nanoparticles in the vax https://nobulart.com/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/
Scroll down below the video

I’ve an intuition we ought not pass this by, Moneycircus. Help me, please.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 22, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I have retracted the TEM images which were previously published here, as I have not been able to confirm the source of the second one.

Those would be the 4b images I refered to above. Nice to see integrity isn’t dead, take heed MC.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 21, 2021 5:46 AM

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/victoria-construction-industry-shutdown-melbourne-protest-police/100478450

Oh those naughty construction workers don’t want to get their death shots. Gee I wonder why.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 21, 2021 12:23 PM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

Construction Workers Chase Off Police After Claims Of Being Attacked
Free Speech Warrior

First published at 10:16 UTC on September 21st, 2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/r4MFSljOPKMr

10:26 UTC
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0ZZm48WyG4pk

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 21, 2021 12:34 PM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

Free Speech Warrior

Melb Australia Day 2 Of Ongoing Protests By Construction Workers Over Mandatory Vaxx Requirements
09:48 UTC on Sep 21st, 2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dun7bWe88ICG

Construction Protestors Take Over A Major Highway During Their March Against Tyranny
09:54 UTC on Sep 21, 2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HI4r6GdWrIcP

Kalen
Kalen
Sep 21, 2021 4:57 AM

There is no doubt that many of those who sought truth about unprecedented 9/11 events were genuinely concerned about real historical consequences of letting establishment lies stand, especially in its psychological warfare dimension targeting American people..

Unfortunately many committed fatal strategic errors that opened them us to Intense propaganda assaults while failed to inspire required political regime change enabling full detailed investigation of people, policies and events culminating with 9/11 using power of legal means. No state crimes were ever truly investigated unless complete regime change, not just party in power, occurred

One of those errors was needless fixation on establishment of their own independent technical credibility via attempts of precisely solving the 9/11 events puzzle. While there was nothing wrong with that per se however, Unfortunately by that they accepted reversal of burden of proof from establishment and its experts to independent experts and researchers and by that exposing themselves to propaganda attacks on their proposed often very likely sounding dynamics of the events.

Path of skepticism, that much more effectively unites people, attacking establishment credibility, proving their blatant lies, coverup, huge discrepancies, obvious inconsistencies, and critical omissions in official reports and documents, would have been enough for holding establishment responsible for failure to prevent or avoid dire consequences of these events would have been much faster and easier way to establish political movement aimed against political elites of US. That alone would have created conditions and pressures necessary for establishing 9/11 truth which is that US government wants American people enslaved or dead by whatever effective means possible.

David
David
Sep 21, 2021 4:34 AM

Great perspective from Corbett. From the comments, it seems that many missed the core message: that while the millions of truthers are investigating, reporting, debating the details, infighting, and calling for the terrorists to stop doing what they’re doing and investigate/arrest themselves, that’s all already history and unchangeable, and the terrorists have already created another decade or two of their unfolding human hell.
They’re never going to stop, they’re never going to investigate and convict themselves for their crimes, they own the ‘system’ in its entirety, and they don’t give a shit if you & I figure out what they did 20 years later. The only way humanity survives outside of their hell is if millions of people start actually creating their lives again, rather than spectating. And the only way to do that is outside of the system; creating new communities that completely shun the terrorists’ controls systems.
I suspect that the video is discordant with a lot of people simply because that obvious solution is just too much to contemplate, requiring too much self-empowerment. It’s so much easier to keep dreaming that the ship will be saved, if only more people learn what happened 20 years ago…

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 21, 2021 9:49 AM
Reply to  David

These “new communities that completely shun the terrorists’ control system”, David: Great idea, but will they have solved the perennial problem which has floored political anarchists for the past, oh, about seven thousand years, give or take:

What do you do when the thug-forces of the gics (gangsters-in-charge) of your neighbouring oligarchy march into your commune’s central space, weapons all at the ready, two or three of your neighbours already struck down, to emphasise that they mean business, and announce that you are now subjects of whichever transient big-cheese is currently gicking it over in the oligarchy. His military is now calling the shots in your community, and his tax-gatherers/information-collectors/social-reorganisers will be with you shortly?

Independent anarcho-communities have never yet produced an actually-effective answer to this perennially-vexed question. We are always at the mercy of the gics’ thug-fodder. Only savvy organisation of self-defence militias has any chance of staving off the gics’ thugs. And that necessity, of course, leads inevitably to hierarchical organisation, to achieve the imperative of military effectiveness; and that leads to the sort of hierarchical social order that grows from any officer class: Meet your homegrown gics; same as the unapologetically-oligarchic gics across the way.

Check mate for anarchism. Highly-socialist, egalitarian anarchic communities work naturally, by default, by evolutionary development, in small clans of humans living thinly spread in a global wilderness; it’s what we do naturally in that ancestral case. But, alas, it’s never yet been got to work long-term in organised mass societies. (I use the word ‘socialist’ here in the dictionary meaning of the word, not the USAmerican-Illiterate populist meaning of anything more socially and ecologically responsible than all-out chaotic free-for-all libertarianism. For me, socialism is a cheer-word, not a boo-snarl.)

The Amish people manifest something that is at least reaching towards anarcho-socialist community, but they only manage to persist because the surrounding imperialism of the Anglozionist empire tolerates them as a sort of harmless novelty, in the same way that it tolerates nominal bantustans for Native American communities, on little patches of crappy land that no-one else wants. But watch what happens if the Amish ever show signs of wanting to be genuinely sovereign independent…

With deep regret, and absolutely not wanting to endorse this sad reality, I nevertheless see it as inevitable that only armed popular uprising is going to depose and bring to some degree of justice the gics pushing the current global covid swindle. It was ever thus. Dammit!

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 4:03 PM

Absolutely agree. I would only add that even these smallish communities are too vulnerable to exist for very long. Being an anarcho-socialst only works if you remove the second part of the term. Anarchy is basically a solitary undertaking.

Even then it’s iffy at best – and I don’t mean eking out an existence in a wilderness. I mean going it alone in a normal social setting. effecting a very – VERY – low profile.

Some would dismiss that as “cowardly.” So be it.

ShivanSlayer
ShivanSlayer
Sep 21, 2021 6:09 PM

You’ve nailed the primary problem of anarchism. Not the “lack of order”, or any other over-dressed intellectual non-issue. The problem of anarchism, is that it is weak. We still live in a might makes right world, technology has just allowed us to fool ourselves. You require a parallel system that promotes cohesion, unity, and a willingness to fight. Something that binds like-minded people together like … a bundle of sticks.

Your enemy isn’t fascism, capitalism, communism, socialism, or any theory or system. Those are abstracts, at the end of the day, they mean nothing in the real world. The only effect they have, is how people interpret and implement them, and that always varies by the people who adapt them. Your enemy is flesh and blood, those who reject your sovereignty, you associations, who want to tear you and your community apart. You must bind “us” together, to resist “them”. Nothing has changed, and the greatest treasure in the world has always, and forever has been, that of your own kind.

David
David
Sep 22, 2021 10:37 AM
Reply to  ShivanSlayer

Mostly agree. I only differ regarding the statement that anarchism is weak. Sure, as a theory it doesn’t have much supporting it in terms of successful communities, but I think that’s because it can’t really exist within the oppressive ‘system’. Is there really any modern example of anarchism/voluntaryism operating on its own, in competition with the British system? I think not.
When collectivists try to assert that the US is proof that free markets create monopolies and mass servitude, I ask “when was the US a free market economy?”. Voluntaryism is same as a free market economy; neither have been given a chance anywhere, in a long time.
Indeed, cohesion and willingness to fight are crucial.
Government education has done a masterful job of convincing the global population that good people don’t use violence to defend themselves, and all measure of government violence is good. I think that’s where the battle is right now. Are enough people going to wake up to the reality that everything they’ve believed is an inverted reality meant to enslave them? People who fight for their freedom are ‘terrorists’, and the military monstrosity that’s incinerating villages all over the planet is heroic. Can enough Americans come to their senses and realize what’s happening here?

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 22, 2021 12:40 AM

You ignore cultures outside the hegemony. Recall the Zapatistas?
The puncture tent went up in the plaza and was torn down the next day. Not been seen again since.

David
David
Sep 22, 2021 9:51 AM

I get it, and don’t disagree with your remarks. Obviously, to have any chance of success the scale and organization both need to grow by a lot.’ But I don’t think the small, isolated attempts of the past are an accurate gauge anymore. I think you can see that we’re in a whole new world now.
I grew up in Pennsylvania, not far from the Amish, and know the culture well. And indeed, they are being increasingly oppressed as well. They’re pacifists, and so they just migrate to a more rural place when the materialists invade too much.
The Amish give me hope though, because they prove that large communities can flourish while needing nothing from the banker/destroyer establishment, and they show what tight community looks like.
If they were skilled riflemen and willing to defend themselves, they’d be a militia to be reckoned with, as I have no doubt that in an emergency they could gather 5000 men in a few hours with no modern communications technology.
How many people in the US can see the tyranny that’s coming? Why wouldn’t there eventually be 50 or 100 Amish-sized communities of people who refuse to be slaves and are willing to fight? At some point, crushing them as the US government is used to doing becomes more problematic. Afghanistan and Syria prove the power of patriotism over money, size, and technology.
I see no possibility that there won’t be armed uprising(s), and as always the “popular” side will be the forces of tyranny. Which is why leaving the system and rooting a parallel society is the only way. The cities and their suburbs are already lost, and will consume their populace as they implode.
I think it comes down to a simple question of ‘what are you gonna do?’. Do you continue participating in and supporting the evil system that you can see intends to turn the entire planet into a prison colony, as an expression of fear-induced paralysis, or do you divorce from it and start living again, willing to blaze trails and be a leader? Sure, the latter option may eventually get a person crushed in a military raid. But the former option already has every last person crushed.

David
David
Sep 22, 2021 10:01 AM
Thiekbalj
Thiekbalj
Sep 21, 2021 2:47 PM
Reply to  David

Amen. Great comment.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 4:10 AM

Nurse admits he was killing patients… ‘pushing the button’… and reveals his torment at CDC manipulating PCR cycles to create false impression of infectious pandemic.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TmPQLUwWL2sj

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 21, 2021 7:03 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

A personal testimony from the other side:

New Name
New Name
Sep 21, 2021 3:25 AM

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ?
Not the whole truth, unfortunately.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 2:15 AM

And the news. This is the video that’s waking people up.
Funeral Director John O’Looney of Milton Keynes Blows the Whistle on Covid
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gigUyK3yLtMU/
800k views in a couple of days. Max has an update today.

RobG
RobG
Sep 21, 2021 3:17 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Moneycrircus, you beat me to it – I’d strongly advise everyone to watch the above link (and for what it’s worth, I have now heavily checked this guy out, and he does appear to be real).

So why on Off G do we get Mr Corbett (you can find my views about Corbett below), instead of an absolutely groundbreaking video from Max Igan interviewing John O’Looney? (O’Looney is a real Irish name – I’ve gone into that elsewhere)

Apparently this coming week there’s going to be more groundbreaking stuff from whistle blowing nurses in the NHS.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 21, 2021 11:38 AM
Reply to  RobG

We are awaiting confirmation of certain aspects of O’Looney’s story before we endorse it, and we advise others to do the same.

Hastily grabbing at the every ‘next big thing’ before basic research is done is a recipe for being caught in a honey trap sooner or later.

interesting that you dismiss Corbett who has a long track record of truth telling, and sneer at the protesters, but yet urge everyone to get on board with this as yet untested story.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 21, 2021 11:51 PM

John O’Looney* is John O’Luanaigh, and he was on the podcast of the Richie Allen Show back in July. Sounded very genuine to me.

The Richie Allen Show Monday July 5th 2021

John O’Luanaigh runs a funeral home in Milton Keynes. He’s very highly rated, with hundreds of 5-star Google reviews and is ranked among the top three funeral directors by his peers. John wrote an open letter to politicians and the media. He believes that the covid-19 death figures have been inflated and that the death numbers for 2020 were no worse than previous years. He also believes that there was a spike in deaths in February of this year, when the vaccine roll-out expanded. This is a must-listen interview. 

http://www.mkffs.co.uk

*Anglicised version?

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 22, 2021 2:15 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

Hmm… perhaps I should’ve said: “John O’Looney is John O’Luanaigh, or vice versa.” Whatever.

siamdave
siamdave
Sep 21, 2021 4:29 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

‘This is the video that’s waking people up.’ – if they’re not awake yet after the lies and massive exposures from many many people after the last 18 months, this isn’t gonna make much difference – it’s good additional evidence for the upcoming (we hope) trials, but it’s not going to do much to awaken those who will not be awoken …

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 7:03 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Oh my, dear Moneycircus, have you not read our very own Researcher‘s — such a brilliant and knowledgeable gal! — demolishing of O’Looney’s authenticity here, a few days ago?? I think it must be case closed WRT O’Loony after her thorough expose. In case you missed it:

Researcher
Sep 17, 2021 2:52 AM

Reply to  Molinos
You must have missed the part when he gives the double devils horns sign at 15.57.
Max Igan with his Masonic one eyed logo, and his “folks” spiel. Same word GW Bush used when he was addressing ‘Murrikans. Another coincidence.

Researcher
Sep 17, 2021 3:12 PM

Reply to  Azy
… If he’s a dishonest individual and a Mason, then his testimony is meaningless.

… These stage managed personalities pretending to blow the whistle are distractive narratives. Produced by Masons, as part of the Masonic psyop of the covid1984 operation.
As long as you are watching this stuff, you falsely believe people are coming forward to speak their truth, when it is all stagecraft.

Researcher
Sep 17, 2021 4:12 PM

Reply to  Azy
He did it three times.
Moreover, I know I’m correct about him being a Mason, because Max Igan jumped into the comments when someone else noticed the use of devils horns and said many people use them as quotation marks. Which is complete bs.
It was notable that Max the Mason shill also used the term “brother” which Masons use in their brotherhood.
When I hear white men using that word “brother”, I know exactly what they are: Freemasons.

Note: I too habitually use those “devil’s horns” as quotation marks, so I am undoubtedly a Mason myself, therefore do take whatever I say with a grain of salt… 😀

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 8:23 AM

Milton Keynes Family Funeral Services

https://www.facebook.com/MKFamilyFuneralServices/

Genuine firm. But is his story genuine. When the regime sets out to poison the wells of truth, every source is suspect. Hilaire Belloc found that out when searching for the truth about the Anglo Zio Capitalist invasion of the Afrikaaner Free Republics, as recounted in his book, The Free Press, circa 1900, written in The Age of Paper.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 10:27 AM
Reply to  NickM

When the regime sets out to poison the wells of truth, every source is suspect.

Ain’t it the truth!

I just watched MI’s latest:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CXdoSbUGeaUU/

and have to ask if anyone knows if O’Looney posted that deregistration letter from the SAIF to his social media or elsewhere online? Otherwise it would seem likely that he emailed the pic to MI, and if he did that, why did he not also send a copy of the offer of $85,000 from RT or whomever along with it? He may have an overflowing inbox as MI suggests, but I would still expect that getting back in touch with MI with proof of that offer would be top priority.

Also: MI mentions that some “researchers” (lol) are accusing him of being controlled opposition because his (bitchute) “videos play without endlessly buffering”. Related perhaps to this is a question I’ve been meaning to ask here:

Last week I was watching a video on bitchute, in the middle of which my computer suddenly rebooted. This has never happened before for any reason. I happened to mention this to someone on the weekend, and they said they had the same thing happen while watching a bitchute video! So, I obviously must ask: has anyone else here experienced their computer rebooting while watching a bitchute video (and also a possible explanation for why that might happen from playing a video on bitchute, but not from any other activity on the computer whatsoever)?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 21, 2021 9:39 AM

In general you are right. Several masons that I once worked with, and one who was a friend, don’t reply since the plandemic began. Their duty calls. It’s harder to get work — they are sharing everything among themselves I guess

Why bother to post if the masons (don’t forget the fraternities and sororities and Common Purpose and WEF and all the corrupt boys’ and girls’ clubs) have won.

There can’t be many of us on the outside. Why are they even bothering with this charade if so many are involved?

If you are right, looking for a bridge to jump off would be a better user of my time.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 21, 2021 4:37 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Or you could just exercise judgement and wait to get some clarity before splurging the latest “smoking gun”. If the info is good it will still be good if you take time to check out his claims about ‘Russian media’ etc. If it’s bad you avoid the honey trap.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 21, 2021 10:34 AM

You got some downvotes, Reset. Presumably from people who don’t get sarcasm; or who are lost in the ‘monstrous, monstrous Freemasonry’ [sarc!] distraction. One or two here btl are, I notice. I guess any website that sticks in a principled way to a near-zero censorship rule will always have to accept a few resident loonies down in the basement. And of course, the ‘freemasonry’ obsession provides a rich shit-stirring ground for the 77oids, just to stir up distraction and confusion; time-wasting…

Listen to John O’s insights. As RobG says above, John checks out. Pass over the mithering of the masonry-obsessed unread. Waste no time listening to flat-earthers.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Sep 21, 2021 10:57 AM

Shit, I must be a freemason then. I never knew that. Thanks for enlightening me, Researcher.

juno
juno
Sep 21, 2021 5:36 PM

What puzzles me is how these ultra-secret demonic masons keep giving the damn store away every time they open their mouths.

Ort
Ort
Sep 21, 2021 10:37 PM
Reply to  juno

Well, it doesn’t help that they compulsively flash those ultra-secret signs in front of cameras, going back to the original photographic portraits taken in the 19th Century.

By now, every clued-in observer knows that’s a dead giveaway.

The late, great comedian Rodney Dangerfield had a routine based on the “OK” hand sign. The punch line isn’t very funny out of context, but the gist of it is that he claimed to appreciate the “OK” sign more than cheers and applause:

“So if you like me, just give me one of these!“– then he’d flash the OK sign.

Now I realize that he was a high-ranking Mason indoctrinating the hapless public, and using humor as an insidious cover.

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Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 12:59 AM
Reply to  Ort

OK, folks, I am completely clueless here.

Of course I’ve heard and read the Mason references for years. But I have no clue what it all means.

Yes, I know it’s a club, like many clubs, and you have initiations and so forth.

But, really, are they that powerful?

And do they really use those hands signs?

I’m genuinely asking. Because I think that’s hysterical.

Maybe we conspiracy theorists should come up with some signs. Instead of that silly tin hat.

I recently learned on one of my favorite British TV series (and I unabashadly love them so don’t even start with me) what a Masonic handshake is. We are still awaiting the next season to see where that leads.

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 12:52 AM

My nephews call each other “brother” a lot. Lots of young guys do.

And I can verify wholeheartedly they are not masons.

But, in any case, one thing this fellow said that I wish more on our side would say is that the VARIANT is the VACCINE.

There is no variant!!! It’s driving me crazy to hear Del Bigtree, and all the Doctors that have platforms giving credence to “THE VARIANT”

I am not a doctor, scientist, virologist, so I can not say that there is no variant because I have proved it in a lab.

But I think THE VARIANT is the biggest scam so far. I mean Jesus God Almighty. How bloody convenient. “It’s not vaccine injury – it’s the variant”

“Breakthrough cases” – are you kidding?????

And people call us nutty???

My two over-the-edge driver’s – The Variant. And “Pull it over your nose”

Ort
Ort
Sep 22, 2021 9:13 PM
Reply to  Judith

Yeah, we’ve “discussed” (exchanged posts about) Del before. I regret to say that, although I haven’t given up on him yet, I’m increasingly bothered by the swampy, muddled moderate “middle ground” he’s staked out.

It’s obvious that Del doesn’t accept or welcome the “radical” criticisms made by Drs. Cowan and Kaufman et al, essentially correctly asserting that the supposed SARS-CoV-2 novel coronavirus is fictitious. 

He tends to showcase treating doctors and clinicians who criticize and oppose various elements of the scamdemic, but buy into the scenario promoted by Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche and even Mike Yeadon (IIRC): that the scandalously reckless and irresponsible rollout of the COVID “vaccines” is precipitating the endless proliferation of truly toxic or lethal “variants”.

FWIW, as it happens I’m especially annoyed at The Highwire because today I discovered that a comment I posted to The Highwire’s awful New! Improved! comments platform may have been deleted. I doubt that Del is directly involved with monitoring comments, but if I bother to confirm that the civil constructive criticism I posted has indeed been censored, I’ll cancel my monthly donation.

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 10:27 PM
Reply to  Ort

I can’t even figure out how to leave a comment on Highwire since it went high end. Oh well, at this point I guess I have to take the best and leave the rest. God, it gets exhausting. Lol

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 21, 2021 1:59 AM

The premise behind Corbett’s argument is that 9/11 truth failed because of all the infighting over petty details. This is incorrect. Instead, it failed because the vast majority of people didn’t give a damn about 9/11 truth; or because they thought that being associated with “conspiracy theorists” would damage their careers. We (and they) are now paying the price for them not giving a damn; and this should be made clear.

fxgrube
fxgrube
Sep 21, 2021 2:34 AM

Movements fail because of both external and internal failures. Corbett was emphasizing the internal in this short talk. The point you make about loss of career because of the “conspiracy theorist” taint actually supplements his point about egoistic leaders. Both were very instrumental.

Edith
Edith
Sep 21, 2021 3:37 AM
Reply to  fxgrube

And having just listened to a couple of people scoffing about protestors in Melbourne one wonders why one gives a rats about so many of these people as they drag us to the inevitable….

Qld premier now talking 90% before borders open properly…can anyone see 100% being the name of the game….meanwhile it is all about vax and absolutely no mention of treating people with ivermectin etc….so it really is about lockdowns and destruction of the economy….the purist industry is about gone in qld….I always figures that was the name of the game..,will be something to do with agreements over the reef…and that bloody agenda 30…the common cold is just the excuse…

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 21, 2021 4:42 AM
Reply to  Edith

Qld “premier” is a disgusting coward mole.

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 21, 2021 5:41 AM
Reply to  Edith

Gotta wonder if some of these pollies have been warned or threatened. After all, Daniel Andrews (Victorian Premier) did have a nasty ‘accident’ a few months back.
I’m shit scared of Big Pharma, they’ve been mass murdering for years.

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 8:42 AM
Reply to  Johnny

“some of these pollies have been warned or threatened”

Or bribed: a nice little pension top-up as director in Anglo Zionazi Capitalist companies. In the footsteps of UK Prime Ministers: John Major, Director in Rothschild’s Carlyle Finance and Arms Co, for services in Bosnia; Tony B.Liar, employee of Goldman Sachs and Director in House of Rothschild for services in Kosovo, Iraq and Libya; and George Brown, Director in Carlyle Co, for services in Iraq and QE.

Hele
Hele
Sep 21, 2021 6:55 AM
Reply to  Edith

They are all saying the same thing:Aligned.
Bonnie fucking Henry -here in BC-who started off so “reasonable ..be Kind..masks aren’t necessary ” and all that blather….to becoming fucking Margret Thatcher two years later.
Today she say 90% or Bust..and Two more years of this shite.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 21, 2021 8:11 AM
Reply to  Hele

Bonnie “None of this is based on science” Henry

Ddave
Ddave
Sep 21, 2021 1:49 AM

Sorry to post off topic. They just announced that the ban on travelers from UK and EU to has been lifted for all double jabbed travelers. It will start in November.

What ban? Flights from Europe and UK have been landing in gateway cities like JFK since 2020. So what are we to believe? The passengers landing right now at JFK or other US airports are not vaccinated? How is this a new policy? How is this an opening up or lifting of restrictions? Its like words have no meaning anymore

Juniper Bean
Juniper Bean
Sep 21, 2021 8:08 AM
Reply to  Ddave

Interesting also that this comes within the same 24 hours that the US announced all incoming foreign visitors will need to be double jabbed. I guess everyone has finally worked out the glitches in the digital IDs, and we can start to move around again.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 21, 2021 1:45 AM

Today in Germany, some customer in a small shop got into an argument with the young guy serving him, went out, came back a few minutes later with a gun and shot him. The argument was apparently about the customer not wanting to wear a mask.

Whatever exactly happened, this is very bad news, and not just for the poor victim and his family.

Hashtag trending heavily on Twitler: #QuerdenkersindTerroristen.* Many of the comments are rabid, absolutely vicious, about how so-called “anti-vaxers” should now be treated. “Time to take the kid gloves off” is the least of it.(Twitler is of course happy to host such stuff.)

You can see where this is going, It’s now fine to call anyone who objects to any aspect of the New Fascist Normal a terrorist.

* Querdenker means “lateral thinkers” or “people who think against the grain” or simply “people who think unconventionally”. It used to be a compliment, or at least not an insult. It meant people who dared to think for themselves. Now — like “anti-vaxers” in English — it’s used as a derogatory label for anyone who objects to compulsory jabbing, antisocial distancing, curfews, lockdowns, the forced masking of children, or the new apartheid..

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 21, 2021 3:20 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Thanks for the info.

Brief newslink on it, without much bias: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-gas-station-employee-killed-over-a-face-mask/a-59244387

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 21, 2021 5:45 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

Thanks. I had skimmed ARD and BBC briefly and found nothing.

A lot will depend on how the major media decide to report on this crime, and of course on how the dreadful political class choose to exploit it.

German federal election coming up next Sunday.

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 7:49 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

There are no more real elections.

Juniper Bean
Juniper Bean
Sep 21, 2021 8:11 AM
Reply to  someone

This also seems clear. I noticed Trudeau won handily in Canada.

someone
someone
Sep 21, 2021 8:36 AM
Reply to  Juniper Bean

Democratic representation has gone (if it ever really existed?), we need to accept this fact.

All elections are now just fake ritual to provide seeming legitimacy.

Forget ever voting an alternative outcome.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 22, 2021 8:37 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Predictably, that loathsome neoliberal rag Der Tagespiegel is really going to town on this. It’s their lead story, both online and in print. They’ve sent four of their most eager young careerist hacks to work on it.

Saw the print edition briefly in a shop this morning — horrible, but I’ve forgotten the exact wording. Here’s the online version:

Beleidigungen, Tritte – ein SchussSo brutal ist der Protest gegen Corona-Schutzregeln geworden
Im Streit um die Maskenpflicht wird ein Tankstellen-Kassierer erschossen. In der Querdenker-Szene gibt es dafür kaum Mitleid, manche sind sogar schadenfroh.

Insults, kicks, and then a shot.
This is how brutal protest against the protective rules has become.

In the course of a dispute about the mask requirement, a checkout worker in a petrol station has been shot dead. In the anti-vaxer scene, there’s little sympathy [for the victim]; some are even full of schadenfreude.

[There’s a paywall for the rest of this shameless shit.]

https://plus.tagesspiegel.de/politik/nach-mord-in-idar-oberstein-braucht-servicepersonal-extra-schutz-259093.html

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 21, 2021 3:24 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

“Another death by Merkel-virus. The sooner Germany is rid of that foul corporate fascist eugenicist Nazi pathogen the better of the people of Germany (and the world) will be.”

NoNickYet
NoNickYet
Sep 21, 2021 3:41 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

A lot of people where not paying attention while in their history classes.
I’d say we are past 33, and now close to 38-39.

Hele
Hele
Sep 21, 2021 7:03 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Gawd.You just wonder if the whole thing was a construct by military or government to fuel more hatred and division.We are being played everyday and it’s escalating.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
Sep 21, 2021 1:51 PM
Reply to  Hele

That’s exactly what I’m thinking.

Juniper Bean
Juniper Bean
Sep 21, 2021 8:10 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

So interesting. The same thing is happening everywhere at the same time. The unvaxxed are the new domestic terrorists, and the anti maskers are the dangerous societal elements. What I don’t understand is how many generations it will take before the young people and the children forget where this all began.

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 8:47 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

“this is very bad news,”

I hope it might be the start of very good news:

BBC Interviewer: Chancellor Brandt, what is your greatest regret from the Nazi era, as a Social Democrat?
Willi Brandt: That we did not fight them hand to hand in the streets.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 22, 2021 8:48 AM
Reply to  NickM

The dead boy was not a Nazi, and a shot to the head of a defenceless checkout worker is not hand-to-hand fighting in the streets. Brandt would have abhorred this murder, and rightly so.

Joopy
Joopy
Sep 21, 2021 5:14 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Considering the state (which could refer to any one of them in the West, since they’re all controlled by the same transnational ruling class of billionaires, multinational corporations, and international bankers) has been pushing the propaganda and seeding the public mind with the notion that anyone who disagrees in any way with, or dissents from, government policy, official narratives, dominant institutions, etc. especially when it comes to the corona con, and even more specifically when it comes to the poison injections, could this have been the pre-mediated act of an intelligence asset, or perhaps an MKUltra patsy? It really seems too convenient (rather than “good”) to be true…

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 22, 2021 8:53 AM
Reply to  Joopy

This murder will require and repay close attention. Maybe a “lone nut” really was solely responsible and acting independently, but this is precisely the kind of “terrorist attack” the BND (German domestic intelligence) have been heavily involved in manufacturing previously.

Ort
Ort
Sep 21, 2021 10:25 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I hope the trigger-happy customer had the sense to wear a mask when he returned to commit his heinous crime, because wearing the mask will probably entitle him to a reduced sentence.

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 1:01 AM
Reply to  Ort

And if he’s vaxxed he won’t serve any time at all!

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 21, 2021 11:37 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I am not an expert here, but I understand that Germany has very strict gun control laws, especially for pistols. I wonder just how this “anti kill shot” dude happened to possess a pistol in his home. More believable if he had used a knife. Do not expect an honest investigation.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 22, 2021 8:58 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Gun crime is pretty rare in Germany. The killer is 49, had no criminal record, and allegedly had no license for his gun.

The case is not just ugly but bizarre. He walks in, has an argument, walks back out, comes back an hour later, argues again, shoots the boy and departs on foot. Next day, he walks into a police station and hands himself in.

RobG
RobG
Sep 21, 2021 12:46 AM

I’m not quite sure why Off G keep featuring this guy.

I think he’s a shill, and a bit like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

Nothing he says is not already known to those who are clued in.

He never directly challenges power (because they pay him). It’s just all vague words.

If he was real – *snap of fingers* – he would surely name names.

But he never does, except with regard to politicians long past.

Why isn’t he calling out Biden, or Trump, or Killery, or the rest of these psychos?

At least, he doesn’t in the video featured here, which strikes me like a CIA training video.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 21, 2021 12:55 AM
Reply to  RobG

“Why isn’t he calling out Biden, or Trump, or Killery, or the rest of these psychos?”

Yeah, great idea, never been done before. That would really teach ’em a lesson.

Sharpen up, Corbett! Challenge power, goddammit!

RobG
RobG
Sep 21, 2021 2:02 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I am very familiar with Corbett’s output over many years. He never really challenges power.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 21, 2021 2:58 AM
Reply to  RobG

He is a journalist. He calls 911 an inside job and “covid” a scam. He produces videos examining the history of the power elite and its crimes, lies and machinations. He warns that the coup now underway will consolidate their power immensely and result in a biomedical-technocratic dictatorship unless we all stop fannying about, break our addiction to the Spectacle, and start working effectively to resist them in real life at a grassroots level.

What else would you like him to do? Levitate the Pentagon? Call in Godzilla to demolish the White House?

susan mullen
susan mullen
Sep 21, 2021 6:07 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Someone said that journalists aren’t necessarily activists. Being the man in front is a different matter. In the US right now, there are exactly zero leaders and none on the horizon. In 2015-2016 it appeared that Trump was going to be that rare man willing to stand in front and take the abuse. Unfortunately, as many had warned, he put on an act to get elected, immediately sold us out to the establishment with whom via “WinRed” he and Jared are now in business. Per RNC’s Henry Barbour in 2020, Trump “breathed new life” into the GOP Establishment. There isn’t a penny to be made by representing the peoples’ best interests. All the donor money in the world is behind silencing us. The only solution is for the US to be broken up into 3 or 4 parts.

NickM
NickM
Sep 21, 2021 8:59 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

“The only solution is for the US to be broken up into 3 or 4 parts.”

Like the only solution was for the EU to be broken up into parts? Brexit did not solve Britain’s problem: we are still saddled and bridled by a thoroughly corrupt regime in Westminster.

Con-men can operate on every scale: from Global down to the level of 2 units: the Confidence Man and his Mark.

I think the only solution to political Con-men, big or small, is for us Little People to watch our morals.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 22, 2021 3:55 PM
Reply to  NickM

So the con-man sees us little people watching our morals…
And then what does he do?

He laughs.

Watching our morals is no ‘solution’, although it will probably help keep us sane.

The solution is a drastic rethink of our society, but nobody has done that since time immemorial.
We can’t remember how to do it.

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 1:11 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I agree. I started watching Corbett in 2016 because I saw him on a show about 9/11.

Have the naysayers here ever watched his channel? Ever watched his videos? Some are amazing.

His documentaries on the Rockefellers are great. How Bid Oil Conquered the World and Why Big Oil Conquered the World are fascinating and full of facts that I did not know.

His World War 1 videos are the same. I had no idea the machinations behind that war. The British Secret Society and Cecil Rhodes

And it’s not just Corbett. He has wonderful, knowledgable guests on his show.

Also, the commenters on Corbett have suggested some great links over the years. I watched all of Attny Dan Sheehans lectures at UCSanta Cruz because of a comment link. And those REALLY opened my eyes.

I do not always agree with him, and find him a bit snarky sometimes. But that does not take away the enormous amount of research he does. All of his work is sourced and footnoted.

He has been calling out technocracy for years. You can archive all of his work on his site.

I attribute the beginning of my “awakening” to Corbett.

In fact it was his interview with Kit Knightly that started me reading Offg.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 22, 2021 11:52 PM
Reply to  Judith

“I do not always agree with him, and find him a bit snarky sometimes.”

His dorky voice, his archly “satirical” shtick and his excessively perky manner used to annoy me so much I could barely watch or listen to him. Which is a shame, because he’s very sharp, knowledgeable and conscientious. Thankfully he’s almost completely dropped all that carry-on since the “covid” scam began (and it’s clear that fatherhood, too, has changed him).

CJ Hopkins has also abandoned his That’s Entertainment! routine and I think it’s improved his essays enormously. In times like these, satire is obsolete.

Judith
Judith
Sep 23, 2021 12:29 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Yes, i did not enjoy this video so much because of his delivery. But he made some good points.
He’s got a new, good episode today about some solutions to dealing with the mandates.
Also, a good podcast interview with Michael Welch on Global Research.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 22, 2021 12:50 AM
Reply to  RobG

Because he doesn’t believe in it/them.
What have Xi Bi Den, Trump or Killery got to do with anything?

RobG
RobG
Sep 21, 2021 1:17 AM
Reply to  RobG

And by the way, in many American states, as indeed in a number of countries around the world, they are now injecting three-year-olds with this crap.

Does Mr Corbett have anything to say about this?

Geoff S
Geoff S
Sep 21, 2021 1:49 AM
Reply to  RobG

Does Mr Corbett have anything to say about this?

Well quite a lot, yes. But feel free to assume that the small selection of his out put which off-guardian links to is the sum of all his work.

Personally, I value James Corbett above and beyond any other source, primarily for the fact that he doesn’t just complain about the world (although he does plenty of that too) but he actually looks to solutions and actions that can be taken.

RobG
RobG
Sep 21, 2021 4:04 AM
Reply to  Geoff S

He’s just some pratt on the internet; and we can argue the toss about whether he is CIA or not (anyone allowed high profile on legacy social media is security services).

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 21, 2021 6:36 AM
Reply to  RobG

He’s just some pratt [sic] on the internet…

And what do you think you are?

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 1:13 AM
Reply to  Geoff S

Absolutely. His guests are varied and very interesting. I think it’s a terrific site and check it daily.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 21, 2021 1:54 AM
Reply to  RobG

Yes. He has said things against it, repeatedly. He is himself the father of a very young child.

Happy now?

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 1:13 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Actually, he has two children now.

simon crow
simon crow
Sep 21, 2021 1:32 AM
Reply to  RobG

Your comment perfectly underlines and demonstrates a very important point he made in the video – the nit-picking fictionalization of the resistance. He is an important ally and a voice for truth. But of course you are in the know so please delight us with your knowledge and build on what he said rather than disparage him.

RobG
RobG
Sep 21, 2021 2:13 AM
Reply to  simon crow

Again, I’m very familiar with Corbett over many years.

In the present ‘crisis’ please give me some links to where Corbett seriously speaks against injecting children with an experimental gene therapy that’s never been tried on humans before.

Just interested.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 2:59 AM
Reply to  RobG

Here’s a thought: to condemn the use of an experimental gene therapy is necessarily to condemn its use on children.

Mr Corbett has been on record many times explaining the dangers and probable uselessness of the so-called “vaccine.” I can overlook his not spelling out its dangers and uselessness for each separate demographic.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 21, 2021 3:29 AM
Reply to  RobG

“please give me some links to where Corbett seriously speaks against injecting children…”

The Future of Vaccines (Quotes):

But even more fundamental than these particular safety concerns about these particular vaccines is the way that this fanatical, reckless and unprecedented headlong rush to push (and potentially even mandate) these vaccines on billions of people worldwide—women and children, young and old, healthy and unhealthy alike—is setting the most dangerous public health precedent in the history of humanity, a precedent that threatens to undermine our most cherished health freedoms in the name of a panic-induced “emergency.”

And

Despite the fact that the clinical trials surrounding these experimental vaccines are ongoing and that the FDA itself admits that there is “currently insufficient data to make conclusions about the safety of the vaccine in subpopulations such as children less than 16 years of age, pregnant and lactating individuals…

You must have the attention-span of a goldfish if you think that James Corbett is in favour of (or indifferent to) mandatory vacination. Or mandatory anything, for that matter.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 21, 2021 11:58 PM
Reply to  Maiasta

Stop insulting goldfish!

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 22, 2021 12:22 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

lol. Yes.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 22, 2021 3:59 PM
Reply to  RobG

“Just interested”…?

No, Rob.
You just don’t want to know.

Howard
Howard
Sep 21, 2021 3:16 AM
Reply to  RobG

“Naming names” is just about as useless an endeavor as carrying the proverbial coals to Newcastle.

Any name anyone can “name” is merely the name of a flunky, a water carrier, a go-fer for the real power brokers. The best and closest approach to “naming names” comes from Dane Wigington of geoengineeringwatch.org: “those who print the money.”

Don’t know their names; but they “print the money.” Or at least they oversee its printing.

Indeed, isn’t knowing what they do and how it determines what happens of greater importance than knowing who they are?

They snap their fingers and the world’s “leaders” jump. We don’t need to search them out and cut off their snapping fingers. We just need to stop our “leaders” from jumping.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 21, 2021 4:09 AM
Reply to  Howard

You hit the nail on the head.

Judith
Judith
Sep 22, 2021 1:17 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

People have the same problem with Catherine Austin Fitts.

“Why doesn’t she name names?”

I don’t know. Maybe she wants to live.

Does it really matter a fiddler’s fart who they are? I’m gonna bet we’ve never heard of them. And there is not one, not ONE thing we can do about them.

Yes, it would be great if we could just have the water carriers put down the buckets.

Ort
Ort
Sep 22, 2021 8:52 PM
Reply to  Judith

Put slightly differently, i.e., offering a concurring opinion:

CAF does “name names”, or at least a name: Mister Global.

I don’t see this as being merely glib, coy, evasive, or disingenuous. It’s a way to identify a class– more accurately, an overclass. And it’s obvious that “Mister Global” is real; CAF’s generic term isn’t meant to airily suggest that we’re all Mister Global, so no one is Mister Global. 

Of course there are individual villains, varying in scale and degree of monstrosity, up and down the overclass hierarchy, and all of the critical thinkers here can rattle off names of the Usual Suspects.

Also, it may be the case that a radical critic of the overclass reasonably fears reprisals from the villains. But I don’t think it’s a case of CAF prudently refusing to name specific names to avoid bringing the goons down on her– in effect, suggesting that she could name A, B, or C but dares not do so lest she pay the price.

I think she sticks to “Mister Global” on intellectual grounds, to avoid the trap of reducing systemic and class phenomena to a specific group of individuals.

Judith
Judith
Sep 24, 2021 2:40 PM
Reply to  Ort

Yes, I am familiar with the Mr. Global reference.

In fact, Reiner Fuellmich uses it now, also.

CAF’