WATCH: 9/11 Truth on the 19th Anniversary
James Corbett interviews Richard Gage on recent research, planned events and legal proceedings.
Richard Gage of AE911Truth.org joins James to discuss the various actions, inquests, studies, documentaries and conferences that are happening around the 19th anniversary of 9/11.
OffGuardian is also planning a short series articles on relating 9/11 to the current push for a “new normal”, and how the topic takes on a new relevance in the age of Covid.
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Until you wake up to the truth that death and injury were staged on 9/11 your understanding of that event and of psyops in general will remain extremely limited. When you understand the propaganda strategy to stagnate the truth by targeting truthers to ensure they maintain their belief in death and injury it will increase your understanding generally of psyops by orders of magnitude.
Often the essential truth of a psyop is very, very simple. The rest is propaganda.
On 9/11, buildings were damaged and destroyed.
For the alleged COVID-19 pandemic the truth is that there is no “novel” virus. There is nada, niente, zilch. It is the Emperor’s New Clothes par excellence.
It is most instructive to look at the parallels between 9/11 and COVID-19.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/911–covid-19-the-parallels.html
You are either a despicable troll, or a complete idiot. It is people such as your self that pollute all rational public debate. Face the facts and quit lying in public..
“Occam’s razor” is a phrase frequently used by unintelligent people to justify the claim that the only answer they can think of must be the right one.
The campaign for an inquest is for this guy who apparently worked for Reuters.
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/people/3465.html
There is this blog post which seems to have assembled quite a few names of people he knew. There is a comment from his dad saying his name is Geoff.
https://cpunchmansworld.blogspot.com/2006/09/remembering-victims-of-9-11-geoffrey.html
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=246&p=2389532
Thank you Simon for being one of the very very few on OffG who recognises the big lie about death and injury on 9/11.
See my comment https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/08/watch-9-11-truth-on-the-19th-anniversary/#comment-237433
A person can claim that the there were explosives in the buildings and onboard the plane, and that W7 was detonated, and that it was an inside job and / or Mossad false flag. But to claim that it didn’t happen, or that people did not die, is such a disconnection from reality experienced by hundreds of thousands of people on the ground, that a medical diagnosis for such delusion is needed.
I’m not one who makes empty claims and I’d advise you to be such a person yourself, Fish & Chips. I make substantial cases for my claims using reason, logic and evidence and for some events/sub-events I put forward a $5,000 10-point Occam’s Razor challenge to provide a case for opposing claims … to which, so far, no one has responded.
This is my case for staged death and injury.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html
If you are sufficiently open-minded and interested in the truth to look at my case and if you have any points that refute my case or you have any points that favour real death and injury over staged please I am very happy to discuss further.
There are people who called it while it happened….
http://www.frombehindenemylines.org.uk/2020/09/ny911attack-william-coopers-10-hour-broadcast/
What you need to understand is how controlled opposition squats in the place of the genuine opposition and has it in a stranglehold. Bill Cooper was a controlled opposition agent (oh sure he made all those “predictions” cos he was IN THE KNOW). He may well still be alive. So many agents “suicide” or seemingly die under “suspicious” circumstances but, in reality, are “sheepdipped”, given a new identity and shipped off somewhere. The pivotal truth of 9/11 is that death and injury were staged and all the propaganda is either: — Directed to the masses telling them it was 19 terrorists — Directed to the truthers to keep them believing in death and injury and distracted from – one way or another – the pivotal truth of staged death and injury. Without that truth the truthers are hamstrung in getting out the truth because the general population will not believe… Read more »
https://youtu.be/SbUsGYX0xe8
Was 9/11/2001 the result of a conspiracy?
“There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know.
But there are also unknown unknowns.
There are things we don’t know we don’t know.”
– Donald Rumsfeld –
Former secretary of defense
Spawned: July 9, 1932
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”
– William J. Casey –
CIA Director (1981)
“The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it.”
– Josef Mengele –
(March 16, 1911 – February 7, 1979)
The families have some questions:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/documents-proving-fbi-withheld-critical-information-911-families-american-people/5723339
Conspiracy Theorists of the derogatory kind at the very least want the lazy and and criminally incompent bannished from public office and the military.
The Official Conpiracy Theorists want those same lazy and criminally incompetent people to retain their positions and even progress to higher office,
The incredible vanishing Naudet brothers, the filmmakers who documented 911 by lucky chance.
Even though they are, by one account, responsible for the ‘greatest documentary ever filmed’ they have done little since. A series of interviews with spiritual leaders, In God’s Name, broadcast in 2007, and a similar-format series of interviews with all twelve living (current and former) intelligence directors, The Spymasters: CIA In the Crosshairs, in 2015.
That’s All Folks!
The incredible vanishing Naudet brothers
Ex-CIA Susan Lindauer says Richard Carl Fuisz said Naudet Brothers are “linked to the Dancing Israelis”… who by their own admission were in NY to “document the event”.
The first Sept 11th. By and for the same Masters of Money. Still no justice. But the date has been hijacked for ever in history books. Why have a ‘911’ article days before ? Why also shut down my comment thread as O/T – it would have led on to directly address the WTC and WOT and the MENA plans and the SCO which forced the ancients into the great charade, after facing being losers in the great game – again. And then, into how the MSM was fully party to the show and only the denizens of newsgroups and chat forums forced the facts to be examined – leading also to the the many Alt-media set ups by the DS as they scramble to put razor wire on the Wild West of the inter web. No doubt considered to be O/T by the Numbers who control the Alt media… Read more »
When families of those who died on 9/11 took monies for their loved ones deaths from the Government, did they have to sign something?
Has that particualar contract ever been placed into the Public Domain. I wonder if it contains some interesting items.
The Gelitin B-Thing Why is Gelitin’s B-Thing troubling & mysterious Gelitin is made up of four artists from Austria. The B-thing began in March 2000. This time, the group allegedly removed one of the windows on the 91st floor of the former World Trade Center complex in New York. After this, they installed a narrow balcony, and a helicopter was flying around the scene, capturing every moment which would later be documented in the book The B-thing. The B-Thing, World Trade Center, New York, USA, 2000 — https://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/ “And then the surgical intervention in the World Trade Center in New York City. Everything top secret and illegal of course. In days of conspiratorial work, somewhere on the 148th floor (and using building site refuse they had tediously smuggled into the building under their pullovers) they constructed a functioning load-bearing balcony. In a long complicated process they scratched putty from the… Read more »
THE ARTISTS — TL;DR I left out the most important link: https://publicdelivery.org/gelitin-b-thing/ Look at the sketches and pictures pubished in 2000, by the Gelitin B-Thing project — remember these are performance artists (people try to dismiss them by pointing to the quality of their sketches). Some time before March 2000 they had removed one of the windows on the 91st floor and installed a load bearing balcony. One pretty sketch and another showing the metal supports for the balcony. A helicopter was used by the Art Students … they had money for a helicopter just to take photographs of them standing on their secret balcony, which are published in the book, Gelitin – The B-Thing, March 2000. The book also contains sketches. One sketch clearly shows elevator shafts which give access to supporting columns of the WTC towers. If you read this thread you will know that the elevator shafts… Read more »
On this sketch, one drawing of the WTC has an arrow to another showing the WTC in a state of centrifugal destruction.
The captions read: “WTC… very depressing building inside. We want to brake thru (sic) to the amazement from inside.”
“Amaze: To surprise or astonish greatly” and “fill the inside with the amazing sight”.
Taking a closer look at this pre-March 2000 sketch, 91st-Floor-of-WTC-1, you can see it is more graphic art than a sketch. At the top, the captions read: “Boring airplane food” — “satellite phone talk with mama” The image of fluffy clouds, captioned “happiness” has a line of dashes leading down towards the WTC, indicating descent. Then the words “last chance to open parachute” Before continuing our analysis of this sketch, remember it was published in March 2000 by the Austrian performance artists Gelitin, who were active in the WTC along with a linked/separate group of Israeli art students. Below the cloud and the reference to satellite phone call to mama and last chance to open parachute, there is an image of the Twin Towers. The WTC Towers are annotated with lines leading to the words: Rapunzel, a reference to the prince who will bring Rapunzel a piece of silk that… Read more »
hmm so they could have prepared footage for the people jumping, standing in the windows that made people think there was people in the buildings.
This is all propaganda to keep truthers believing in death and injury, moneycircus. All propaganda even if it may be true it’s PUSHED OUT TO US very deliberately. Don’t you think it’s a little obvious? Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.
Yes, of course, Israel was involved but so were many other nations, my own country of Australia being one of them. It was no coincidence that Little Johnny Howard was in Washington with front row seats for the big event. And it was all a foregone conclusion that Australia would be right behind the US in the invasion of Iraq. Even his opposition counterpart, Kim Beazley, was right behind Little Johnny. We see this is the incredibly revealing film when you read between the lines, Leaky Boat, about the two fake refugee boats leading up to the 2001 Federal election that sandwiched the big terror event in September.
Did a plane even hit the towers? It seems like nested tags like in programming. so what ever explanation there is some actors or info set up to lead you astray to believe one of the desired versions of the story. no planes but lots of deaths. planes but lots of deaths. how about just some buildings were demolished to make way for a new trade center? basically a none story turned into a major psyop. the actual deaths were in the wars justified off the back of it.
This was apparently deleted from youtube having had 800,000 views. Pretty compelling really. https://www.bitchute.com/video/WLa1yWUCCPR5/
Covid911 as a continuation of the NWO 9/11 project.
See Lawrence Wright interviews with Brian Stelter (CNN) and Jane Mayer (chief Washington correspondent for The New Yorker).
https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/18/watch-bill-gates-and-the-population-control-grid/#comment-175006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Wright
Lawrence Wright (born August 2, 1947) is an American writer and journalist, who is a staff writer for The New Yorker magazine, and fellow at the Center for Law and Security at the New York University School of Law. Wright is best known as the author of the 2006 nonfiction book The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11. Wright is also known for his work with documentarian Alex Gibney who directed film versions of Wright’s one man show My Trip to Al-Qaeda and his book Going Clear. His 2020 novel, The End of October, a thriller about a pandemic, was released in April 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]
It’s worth hearing the interview between the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer and Lawrence Wright about his predictive novel The End of October (2020) but they are tone deaf. Why does fiction track events more closely than newspapers, they ask – and why, if novelists can chart developments, are politicians so unprepared? Politicians are blind because the media creates their reality. Instead they bash Trump. If the media creates the reality, so does this novel. Mayer doesn’t ask which scientists Lawrence Wright used as sources – or if he was used. Given that his novel was predictive, did he speak to the people behind Event 201? After all scientists were involved in simulations, financed by billionaires and their foundations. They had their reputations, grants and careers in mind… does Wright just channel them… or does the novel interrogate them or the vested interests that shape their world? I guess the answer’s… Read more »
I think the key point (~13:15) is where Wright says “9/11 was a lost moment”. It explains the apparent inconsistency of the controlled Left; why they were against the Iraq war but also against 9/11 truth. Also, why they are now pushing Covid911.
Lawrence Wright wrote the load of cobblers, The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the road to 9/11, which won the Pulitzer Prize. Need I say more?
The book’s title is a phrase from the Quran 4:78: “Wherever you are, death will find you, even in the looming tower”, which Osama bin Laden quoted three times in a videotaped speech seen as directed to the 9/11 hijackers.
Doncha love it?
My mother bought the book and suggests I read it. I’m like, “Are you insane? It’s complete propaganda.”
I haven’t read it and don’t intend to. But to some extent it’s helpful to know which fantasy, “Through the Looking-Glass” world they’re living in, since it tends to impact on the actual world of everybody else.
Sure, but too lazy. It should be done but I ain’t gonna.
Covid911 – INSURGENCY
Joe M
Jun 28, 2020
https://www.bitchute.com/video/w64rFwcO2TSO/
https://worldchangebrief.webnode.comPentagon Legal Expert Warns Of Treasonous Coup /
SanFran Uni Invites Terrorist Hijacker To Speak/
“Coup Porn” Fantasy Rundown/
Houston Starting Vaccine “Lottery”/
Crackdown: Nursing Home Covid Scandal/
Explainer: CIA Color Revolutions
I think the main point here is that this has now become a federal investigation and therefore cannot be whitewashed by the state governors. — FBI raids Pennsylvania nursing home linked to hundreds of coronavirus cases, dozens of deaths New York Daily News Sep 04, 2020 Federal and state authorities converged on a Pennsylvania nursing home on Thursday to investigate a massive coronavirus outbreak that has killed dozens of residents and staff at the facility and sickened hundreds more. Investigators from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Health and Human Services, the state attorney general’s office and other agencies executed the search warrant at Brighton Rehabilitation and Wellness Center, located northeast of Pittsburgh, around 8 a.m. More than 300 residents at the facility have tested positive for COVID-19 since the global pandemic first emerged, including 88 who have died, according to WPXI. The outbreak at Brighton is one of the worst… Read more »
they also got the records from a second home owned by the same people.
Agreed! it looks like finally law enforcement is finding ways to hold people accountable for Covid lies- this is blatantly putting a vulnerable population at risk- if they can prove the motive was too inflate Covid numbers by finding memos and documents stating such orders, if they can find documentation that a Governor ordered this to the home, and then arrest that Governor and get them to talk….may be able to prove the hoax part of this charade.
I hadn’t heard the term “coup porn” before, but it’s highly appropriate. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/coup-porn-resistance-sees-military-removing-trump-from-office Coup porn: Resistance sees military removing Trump from office by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent – Aug 13, 2020 With 80 days left before the presidential election, a new and dangerous rhetoric has emerged from some corners of the Resistance. A number of President Trump’s most implacable critics are fantasizing about deploying the U.S. military to remove him from the White House on Jan. 20, 2021, based on their assumption that a.) he will lose the election, and b.) he will refuse to leave office on his own. Recently, two retired Army officers speculated about deploying a brigade from the 82nd Airborne Division to overpower Trump’s “private army” that they believe the defeated president will use to try to cling to office. Another retired officer, a former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, imagined… Read more »
yes – I try to keep readers abreast of the evolving language memes too… : ) “Mask Mouth” was another one. thanks for visiting.
Sorry if multiple posts are bothersome, but millions of dead Iraqi, Libyan, Afghan, and Syrian souls cry out in the darkness…
The current plandemic is an execution – a murderer of civil freedoms. The collapse of currencies world wide is next on the short list.
9/11 Terror Trading – 15 Years Later – YouTube
There are many such exposes’ available.
There can be no reasonable debate regarding the destruction and collapse of all three World Trade Center buildings, without examining the complete failure of several air defense command logistical centers prior to ground zero impacts.
AE911Truth.org needs to include more than just the structural physics of the building’s collapse in their investigative report. >
Excerpted from: The Case Against Ralph Eberhart, NORAD’s 9/11 Commander
“There were several NORAD exercises planned for 9/11: Vigilant Guardian and Vigilant Overview, both command post exercises (CPX), and Amalgam Virgo and Amalgam Warrior, which were field training (or FTX) exercises. All four of these exercises were CJCS approved and sponsored by CINCNORAD Eberhart.[38] Apollo Guardian was also running on 9/11. This was an exercise conducted by the U.S. Space Command, meaning Eberhart was in control of that too.“
Please take the time to read this very informative article. >
The Case Against Ralph Eberhart, NORAD’s 9/11 Commander
http://digwithin.net/2013/01/12/eberhart/
Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth purposely restrict their research and opinions to the structural issue. That’s their expertise. That’s why they’re cohesive. They began by appealing to professionals and industry insiders – using structural failure as a lever to open the door. September 9, 2001 is the only time a steel-framed building has totally collapsed due to fire – and it happened three times on one day. It’s still the best technique to open people’s minds. Most people, as you know, are frightened off by well-meaning but generalized statements that 911 was an ‘inside job’. Paul Craig Roberts is right that the military stand down is the key. The stand down was so extensive, so coordinated that you’d have to be mad to belive it was just a coincidence. And as it was clearly coordinated, someone had to have done that. And that points to the perpetrators. But the… Read more »
Speaking of “They would’t do that”, this is the sentiment that really lies behind “They couldn’t do that”. We all have basic beliefs that lie behind the actual words we say – and the “couldn’t” is what people first say, when the “wouldn’t” is their basic presupposition. They take for granted the friendly media presentation of benevolent rulers – or rather (since that has long since died) the presentation of incompetent rulers. It’s still comforting to think that the ones ruling over us are shambling buffoons. Certainly preferable to thinking them evil – and very competent – bastards.
But then when “They wouldn’t do that” starts to edge towards “You know, I think they would”, then that changes everything.
New mental disease: “PTD”: Post-traumatic denial. When seeing ain’t believing.
– Anonymous –
Paul, 9/11 was a psyop. The only physical things that happened for real were damage to and destruction of buildings. Planes were faked and death and injury were staged.
If you have a skerrick of evidence that anyone died or was injured on 9/11, please let me know what it is.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/3000-dead-and-6000-injured-a-lie.html
Hello Petra Liverani: Your opinion is either inspired by your trolling script, or you are a fool.
“There are two ways to be fooled.
One is to believe what isn’t true;
the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
– Soren Kierkegaard –
(1813-1855)
The countdown began three years earlier. October 15, 1998: Future 9/11 Commission Executive Director Zelikow Says ‘Public Assumptions’ Shape Views of History. In his opening remarks at a conference on contemporary political history organized by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, future 9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow emphasizes that the public understanding of history is shaped by what are sometimes referred to as ‘public myths.’ “Understanding contemporary political history is extremely important and constantly alive in public discourse. ‘Contemporary’ is defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public’s presumptions about its immediate past. This idea of ‘public presumption’ is akin to William McNeill’s notion of ‘public myth’ but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word ‘myth….Such presumptions are 1-beliefs thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and 2)-shared in common within… Read more »
Jura, you buried the most hilarious part in the very middle, with your tale of your brave take-down of two of boxing’s best. You’re modest to a fault.
( which is why i never brag about the day i knocked Mike Tyson out for looking at my beer )
My blog has a whole category on 9/11. By trade I am a toolmaker. I conducted some very basic experiments using empty beer-cans. You didn’t think I’d use full ones did you? Unlike the twin towers there is no central column in a beer can. Yet they are remarkably strong.
https://johnplatinumgoss.com/category/911/
My experiments are not as sophisticated as those of Jonathan Cole. By all means read my 9/11 experiments but this Cole video I suggest is even more conclusive evidence that the twin towers could not have fallen without being compromised at the base. Such an act defies Newtonian physics.
John.
The top down collapse has been mentioned in The Smithsonians animation of the collapse of the twin towers. Pictures are worth a thousand words, so A&E I believe amended one of their presentations to include a picture which dispels top down collapse.
The top of WTC 2 was falling off to the side.
Two planes destroyed three buildings.
The end.
Officially there were no planes.
What do you mean by ‘officially’ ?
Perhaps molten aluminum fuselage combined with water, created further explosions. (I expect to be denounced by the pitchfork crowd as a CIA shill or lizard person for posting this link:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110921074747.htm
The buildings were apparently empty most of their life span. There might not have even been floors. All they needed to do was to blow out the central column which is basically what was holding it up. There is video of people going up to the top. There was a viewing deck and the lift didn’t stop on the way up. There was a video of tourists getting photographed/ filmed by the window from a helicopter.
No offence but that is simply ridiculous
Eighty one steel columns And two whole seconds FREEFALL…
MORE evidence of how unscientific and corrupted governments are, with their MSM,
NO-BODY should need…
And until this hugest Hollywood pisstake is resolved publicly, with each and every MSM
Admitting their culpability, any form of dumbed down pseudo-science, like Corporate Video
2019, is wasting your time and invalidating every single evidence of scientific evolution… daily.
Let’s stick to what we KNOW and CAN PROVE…
After four years computer modelling at Fairbanks Uni. Alaska…
Quite an interesting thought, exactly what would happen if each and every one of the MSM admitted their culpability… I wonder if a single head would roll…
We are so considerate to the worst specimens of our race, yet with regard to the best of them we sit by and watch them being persecuted, while we are even politically correct to exactly those who twist, distort and abuse political correctness for their own narcissistic purposes…
Exactly this, Wardropper. Each news outlet that furthers the LIE, in denial of ALL and ANY science, should be immediately threatened with suspension and ultimately closure, on the grounds that they must be still complicit in murder most foul, should they decline.
Especially the half-baked british broadcasting corporation !
The Psychic Sidekick…
As the architects and engineers have proven beyond a shadow of doubt, the only way the building could have come down like that would be if all 81 steel columns simultaneously ceased to exist. Now, how could that possibly happen? Only one way…
Paul Craig Roberts sums it up very well here, without having to delve into any of the particulars that those in the truth movement like to argue over so much. “In order to understand the improbability of the government’s explanation of 9/11, it is not necessary to know anything about what force or forces brought down the three World Trade Center buildings, what hit the Pentagon or caused the explosion, the flying skills or lack thereof of the alleged hijackers, whether the airliner crashed in Pennsylvania or was shot down, whether cell phone calls made at the altitudes could be received, or any other debated aspect of the controversy. You only have to know two things. One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted… Read more »
Splendid man, that Roberts.
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth sponsored a multi-year study by the U of Alaska Fairbanks regarding what dropped WTC7 into its own footprint. The WTC7 demolition was not even mentioned by the “Commission” report though a ridiculous and opaque computer modeling was attempted by NIST in Boulder CO years after the fact. The final U of A report was issued a couple of months ago and unfortunately saw little attention due to the scamdemic. The report is totally data transparent and concluded well beyond any reasonable doubt that WTC7 was dropped by a traditional and expertly executed controlled demolition which cut all its supporting beams simultaneously. This would have taken weeks to install in preparation. While from one perspective, the 9/11 false flag was small potatoes compared to the current scamdemic (though not to Afghanis and Iraqis), a techno-fascist takeover of the entire planet by the 0.00001%, the truth… Read more »
Also, by way of review, similarities in “investigation” 9/11 and JFK: From Corbett on 9/11 (video from 2016) https://www.corbettreport.com/911suspects/ excerpt: Philip D. Zelikow as executive direction of the investigations of 9/11 The most remarkable example of Zelikow’s dictatorial control came in March 2003, just three months into the commission’s 16-month investigation began. It was at that time, before the commission had even convened a single hearing, that Zelikow, along with long-time associate and commission consultant Ernest May, co-wrote a complete outline of the final report. DAVID RAY GRIFFIN: Before the staff even had its first meeting, Zelikow had written, along with his former professor, Ernest May, a detailed outline of the commission’s report, complete, as Shenon put it, with chapter headings, sub-headings, and sub-sub-headings. When Kean and Hamilton were later shown this outline they worried that it would be seen as evidence that the report’s outcome had been predetermined, so… Read more »
911 is nothing compared to this crock of bullshit bs19 listen to Hancock u.k and there is many like him around the world doing the same bullshit in why Bolton has been Melbourne’d
https://twitter.com/i/status/1303351135005061121
Not interested in 9/11 conspiracy theories, but nothing would surprise me.
My only question… Why was the US Air Force not immediately scrambled into action after the first plane hit the twin towers?
I reckon all of their focus was on protecting the Pentagon.
And how did they do that?
Sounds to me more like, the wargames were used as a distraction to occupy the minor response that did take to the air.
Yeah, ya gotta remember that the USAF only had maybe five, six planes total in good working order, so they had to prioritize their response.
Too bad that when they were all diverted to the Pentagon, they apparently took the scenic route.
“Eyes Open”? More likely tightly clamped shut. Next to this plandemic, 9/11 is the watershed event of the century so far.
Agreed, but, before i read your comment, i instinctively unloaded on
Eyes wide shut, because of ‘Gaslighting’… so, it appears 🙂
Not fucking interested? In which case you are either trolling or the dumbest legal and
Scientific cunt ever… there, i said it, just exactly what i was thinking when i read your
Dumb cunt comment, costing MORE LIVES!
Go fuck yourself, then wake up…
Do let me know when you can explain, scientifically
EIGHTY ONE STEEL COLUMNS and TWO WHOLE SECONDS FREEFALL
from a fire… you are now officially in my firing line, with your eyes wide shut.
And, in your wholly ignorant position, i’d shut the fuck up and listen to people
who actually understand science and know from personal experience,
What actually happened and the contents of WTC7, specifically!
Were i you…
You put words in my mouth. 9/11 was an unprecedented crime against humanity. I would not be surprised either way – if the US Gov had planned the event – or not.
I’m not ‘interested’ in investing years and years of research on the endless evidence and counter evidence. It’s a black hole of time. I’m not just going to accept someone else’s narrative without investigating myself.
Two massive airliners, loaded with airline fuel crashed into structures whose strength was derived from the outside shell. That’s what I remember reading at the time, about the original architect.
Your abuse is uncalled for.
structures whose strength was derived from the outside shell
well, that’s a lie, right there. only 40% of the weight of the WTC towers was supported by the perimeter columns; the much larger core columns supported 60% of the weight.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/cons/site1099.jpg
Your abuse is uncalled for.
the persona above is not only a disinfo troll, but a self-admitted deep-state operative. everything it says should be understood on that basis.
You’ve done your reputation here a great deal of harm by that first statement. Years of research by top experts has gone into the architects’ and engineers’ 911 truth initiative, and you actually have no right to imply that their work comes anywhere near being a mere “theory”. You don’t get better information than that which they have provided, and none of it should surprise you by now, assuming you really do keep your eyes open… A&E don’t even have a political agenda, but the impetus for their research has been the simple notion that if anybody builds any more high steel-framed buildings like these, the reputation of their profession as architects and engineers absolutely depends upon revealing the nonsense crammed into the official narrative. Otherwise, how could you guarantee the buildings’ integrity? And who would be held responsible if such buildings were to “collapse” again in the future? –… Read more »
I also said ‘nothing would surprise me’.
I am allowed my opinion, which in this case is not formed. 9/11 is an endless can of worms, which is why I won’t go there.
I don’t care about my ‘reputation’ when fascism real is marching towards us.
Watch carefully video footage of the collapse of the three towers and you can put away your can of worms and be satisfied it was an inside job. There’s only one way buildings like that can collapse like that, and I very much doubt some outside Muslim terrorist group had the access for the setup. Capiche?
The world is under unprecedented fascist attack, under the guise of a health crisis and you want people to focus their energies on three towers.
to focus their energies on three towers
at the time, that was also an unprecedented fascist attack.
if more people had started paying attention at that point, and responded appropriately, we wouldn’t have been subjected to the COVID-1984 hoax.
What if someone takes this attitude with Covid and decides it’s a can of worms and not worth “going there”? In fact, that is what most people are doing now just as they did with 9/11. This attitude is precisely why fascism is marching towards us.
Some might.
I’m not interested in investing my time and energy in learning about the Skripal Affair either, which is a maze that goes on and on and on.
Covid is a war against humanity. Which issue should we prioritise?
Covid is a war against humanity.
so was the 9/11 Terror War. it’s too bad more people didn’t object to that.
Yes, I noticed that you said that.
But to those who have researched Sept11 seriously, it is not an endless can of worms at all. The facts are easily grasped. What is difficult is getting “the authorities” to grasp them, because they have colossal vested interests in NOT grasping them.
That, to my mind, does not constitute a reason for giving up. On the contrary, Sept11 is a crucial part of the fascism which you say yourself is marching towards us.
They had a stand down order from the drills.
Apparently, if I’d said: ‘two planes destroyed three buildings’ instead – my comment would not have been attacked.
And if I’d said: ‘the towers had no floors in them’ or ‘the planes were CGI’ I might have been up voted.
I shall avoid 9/11-ville in future.
What’s amazing to me is that some people still cling to the utter nonsense that “there’s no way all the people who would have to be involved could keep from telling someone!” That argument falls as flat as the Flat Earth argument for one simple reason: I can show you on a map a place where over 300 million people knew all along what happened but said nothing. That would be the United States of America. The good folks of America would never question 9/11 any more than they would ever question dropping the Atom Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. To do so would be to come face to face with the inescapable fact that their cherished country – which can do no wrong in their eyes – is actually the most evil entity ever to exist. Which, in turn, makes them no longer the greatest altruists who ever lived… Read more »
In a word, schooling. We no longer educate. We school young people to swim like in the same direction. We know they’re not taught to think. It’s worse than that. They are taught not to think. Many examinations are multiple choice. If you have limited knowledge, multiple choice means you will try to eliminate what sounds most ridiculous. If you don’t know the answer, you try to dismiss what (to your limited outlook) seems wrong. The biggest problem an informed, awake person has, is that people tend to reject what they don’t know. Even if they are ignorant. Especially if they are ignorant. “I don’t know that so it must be false.” That is the kind of thinking created by multiple choice! Worse than that, people are infantilized. They don’t want Big Papa Government to tell them what to think. It’s worse than that. They want Papa Government to do… Read more »
In our younger, more carefree days we would advise people to “Turn Off Your TV!” Now we must update our warning to “Put Away Your Smart Phone!” At least in those days of yesteryear, people barely watched their TV anyway; they just had it on as a backdrop. But they are absolutely glued to their Phone.
I’m always reminded of an episode of “Star Trek Next Generation,” where an innocuous looking game came aboard the Enterprise and addicted everyone except Data and the Will Wheaton character (Wesley Crusher). That’s what the Smart Phone appears to be.
9/11/2001 challenged my attitude about many things. I had no television at the time, but a friend had called by phone and was detailing live televised events. I “knew” it was an inside job a half hour before the first building came down. My friend (of course) thought I was crazy…
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First question: Why did America’s air defense command systems fail to scramble when multiple civilian aircraft had been hijacked?
Here are two interesting reasons I was correct: >
Evidence for Informed Trading on the Attacks of September 11
Kevin Ryan | Nov 18, 2010
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/11/18/evidence-for-informed-trading-on-the-attacks-of-september-11/
9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!
Published on Oct 31, 2012
Sleep well my pretties…
Thanks, Paul. That is the best video for those (everyone here, I hope) who is already familiar with the mechanics of 911. This explores the motive.
There are excellent links in the notes under the video https://youtu.be/n_fp5kaVYhk
I’ve had two articles published in Off-Guardian (https://off-guardian.org/tag/petra-liverani/) and both of them cite as evidence for motive the Conspiracy Solved! video that Paul has posted a link to. It had me totally sucked in too. A few months after the second article was published, however, I woke up to the pivotal truth of 9/11 and now I regard those two articles as completely obsolete. Unfortunately, OffG does not recognise the pivotal truth of 9/11 and have no interest in publishing my analyses of this event that supersede those two. In mid 2018, I woke up to the fact that 9/11 is a psyop in the real sense of the word – not a false flag and not an inside job per se but a psyop. It is now more than two years later and I’ve made very little headway on OffG in getting that truth across. With my friends and… Read more »
Bashing China in an article about 9/11???
The standard of debate here is sinking to a historic low, thanks to the propagandists with unlimited budgets from the US/UK/Australia.
I was watching the news on 9/11 it is amazing how many times the news channels repeated the explosions as the planes hit the towers. I knew it was a false flag as soon as the towers exploded and turned to dust collapsing through the path of greatest resistance.
The best book I have read on 9/11 is Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta and the 9-11 Cover-Up in Florida by Daniel Hopsicker
But maybe I am wrong maybe it is all as we are told and just maybe sticky tape got us to the moon.
Terrorland is an underrated documentary and easily proves that the alleged hijackers were not who or what they appear to be
Unfortunately, Hopsicker insisted (as of the international conference on 9/11, San Francisco, later March 2004) that the planes brought down the towers and he wasn’t buying any of that “demolition bu…..it.” This was on a day when Jim Hoffman of 9/11 Research (whatever you think of him otherwise) did a presentation about the WTC, i don’t see how anyone there could be unconvinced of demolition after seeing that.
Addendum to previous post—
If you can spare an hour please listen to this interview:
http://gunsandbutter.org/blog/2019/04/07/fbi-sued-for-failure-to-provide-911-evidence-to-congress
When you remember that the Bin Laden family were actually long-time business associates of the Bush family and that George H W Bush was meeting one of the Bin Ladens at the time of 9/11, then it all begins to make sense. I don’t buy the idea that the Bushes personally knew about 9/11 before the event – more likely they were ‘set up’ by very powerful people who did. Interestingly this is very similar to how LBJ and George H W Bush were left embarrassingly close to the JFK assassination.
@Thom: “I don’t buy the idea that the Bushes personally knew about 9/11 before the event – more likely they were ‘set up’ by very powerful people”
They are very powerful people themselves. Watch 911 in a nutshell; begins with a picture of GHW Bush:
https://youtu.be/n_fp5kaVYhk
I think it probable that Boy Bush was not prewarned about the “attack,” due to his impaired emotional and cognitive abilities. That he was moved a 1000 miles out of Washington to an elementary school to read “My Pet Goat” to coincide with the event allowing Cheney to take over the command center under the White House and insure that the cruise missile approaching the Pentagon was not shot down was critical to the agenda. But that Poppy Bush was not in full knowledge of the false flag operation is beyond ridiculous.
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. Communists. Drugs. Terrorists. Viruses. It’s an astonishingly simple, and yet depressingly effective, strategy. What prevents so many people from seeing the obvious manipulations is a lack of historical awareness, class consciousness, and a willingness to entertain the thought that the institutions and leaders they have been taught to trust are capable of such deception, criminality, and depravity. I won’t go through the long list on here again, because most everyone in this comment section is already aware of what the ruling classes have done over the centuries to increase their wealth and expand their control over society. I will just say that the people who rule us are evil and we all need to do everything in… Read more »
Get inside the heads of the perpetrators. The perpetual traitors. The Donald Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney. The entitled daughter Lynne Cheney who lectures from the halls of government. We detect a stiffness, a pretension…. is it power or the trappings of power. Passive aggression: they use their position of authority as a shield. What’s interesting is their mimicry of power, while those closer to the font of power display signs that they know much more and yet somehow fear it. We really don’t want to get inside some heads. Bush grandfather, father and son. First we notice the smirk. Always that smirk, half laughing at you, half grimacing with the pain of some inner torment. Quite different from the poker face of Rumsfeld and Cheney. Demonic but strangely submissive. The Bush smirk evokes mischief but not fun, satisfaction in survival under Faustian duress. The wink acknowledging some shared perversion. Larry… Read more »
The hated Neo-cons, John Brennan’s CIA, the Bush-era warmongers, the Republican establishment, the military-industrial complex and the MSM are all supporting Democrat ‘slow’ Joe Biden for the Presidency in November as their perfect puppet. He’s virtually senile, making their control of him that much easier. I hope anti-Trump posters at OG realise who is their great ally against the DC they rightly hate. Trump thinks in a very similar fashion.
https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2020/07/11/bush-era-neocons-put-their-weight-behind-biden-and-that-can-mean-only-one-thing/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/sperry-john-brennan-running-secret-cia-task-force-langley-investigate-trump-fbi-probe-launched-july-2016/
You hate all of that, yet you still push other CIA propaganda. One dump of truth, two dumps of propaganda.
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You hate all of that, yet you still push other CIA propaganda. One dump of truth, two dumps of propaganda.
That’s how “trolling” works.
The only reason the powers that shouldn’t be have it in for trump is literally because he’s a braggadocio idiot saying in public what the rest say In Private like for example taking Iraq’s oil. Funny how everyone who hated him loved him for a day or two when he dropped bombs on Syria and Afghanistan and they never once mentioned his name during all the coup attempts across the world.
Saying that “the powers that shouldn’t be have it in for trump” is like saying Vince McMahon is truly sickened by Macho Man Randy Savage’s dirty tricks, and is doing everything in his power to get him and his dastardly moves in check, once and for all!
Trump is a tailor-made heel in a cartoonish kayfabe, being orchestrated for the benefit and to the delight of the denizens of TeeVeeLand.
Always that smirk, half laughing at you, half grimacing with the pain of some inner torment. Quite different from the poker face of Rumsfeld and Cheney. Demonic but strangely submissive. The Bush smirk evokes mischief but not fun, satisfaction in survival under Faustian duress. The wink acknowledging some shared perversion. Dynamite prose stylings, here. This is precisely the vibe I get from Billy Bloodbath Gates too. Except Billy looks a little closer to “cracking” than a Bush ever did. Billy is feigning smugness: for now he can pretend he is working with eugenicist fellow-travelers to a common purpose, but he winces inwardly at the knowledge of the blackmail that is being held over his head. (At first it was just penny-ante Epstein-Island debauchery, but now it is the active steps he has taken toward outright democide.) At some level, he knows he is being positioned as a Fall Guy, and he… Read more »
Great insights, well put. I like the sense of motion with Billy Gates, he is definitely on a path, being frogmarched, and you can tell it in his faltering voice, the uncertainty in his reedy, frog-like croak.
If we could take the measure of these people, instead of being diverted into superficial political shots, I think we could be on to something.
One thing that unnerves the powerful is to publicly hold up a mirror to them.
@Moneycircus: “Who guides us to understand these characters.”
Dante. Lower Inferno, the Hell of Perverted Intelligence. Approached by descent on a bat winged monster “with the face of an honest man and a terrible sting in the tail”.
WOULD’VE BEEN FRONT PAGE Just the facts, ma’am” and that’s exactly what the following cites: “One of the most significant developments in the search for the truth of 9-11 was the publication in March 2009 of a peer-reviewed scientific paper, written by nine scientists, about the discovery of “active thermitic material” in dust samples from the collapsed towers of the World Trade Center. A 25 page scientific paper entitled “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9-11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” presented scientific evidence that an extremely powerful form of super-thermite was used during the demolition of the Twin Towers. The research paper written by an international team of nine scientists led by Dr. Steven E Jones of Brigham Young University analyzes tiny red-gray chips of a highly-explosive thermitic material “characterized as nano-thermite or super-thermite.” These chips were found in five different samples of dust from the collapsed towers. The paper… Read more »
Hello Charlotte Russe: I agree. Christopher Bollyn’s web page offers plenty of pertinent 9/11 analysis: > http://www.bollyn.com/home
Also this: >
Explosive Residues: Energetic Materials and the World Trade Center Destruction
http://911research.wtc7.net:80/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html
Special Assignment: Try melting your way through a 5 inch thick piece of core-ten steel, using nothing more than kerosene. Jet fuel is about as combustible as kerosene.
Anyone who pretends the world trade center incident was not an inside job an oblivious conspiracy theorist…
Kerosene was the origin of the Rockefeller fortune… it was while looking for kerosene to sell as medicine, that William Avery Rockefeller struck oil. His son J.D. built the business and grandson David who built the World Trade Center. When it came time to replace the WTC, we are told it was consumed in a fire of kerosene. Thermite was developed at Lawrence Livermore University, linked to Los Alamos. This was overseen by Lawrence Preston Gise, grandfather of Jeffrey Preston Jorgenson who goes by the name of Bezos. Granddaddy Preston was part of DARPA which invented the Internet. Grandson Preston was one of the first investors in Google. Amazon is cloud services provider to the CIA, and one-stop data collection shop to the masses. Quarantined in smart cities without a car, without small businesses, Amazon will be the only way to shop. Not only is it a small world, they… Read more »
Notice how the same neoconservative ideologues are just as powerful today, and are firmly entrenched in the Lincoln Project and all such globalist endeavors. Nothing has been learned.
The very first ever episode of Star Trek was called “The Cage” and featured Jeffrey Hunter as the original captain of the Enterprise, Captain Pike. The episode featured a race of telepathic beings who could create illusions. They imprisoned Pike in a cage where he fired a phasor at the wall. It had no apparent effect. Pike said, “I think I just blew a hole in that wall and you’ve hidden it from me. I would like to try out that theory on your head!” as he points the gun at one of the beings. Immediately, a hole appears in the wall. I reckon that’s what has happened – and many times – to the mainstream media i.e. the bullshit has already been exploded and yet the press continue to talk as if it hasn’t. I reckon most people already know that the official accounts of JFK, 9/11 etc. are… Read more »
As a fellow Trekkie, I love the great example and fully agree with the argument in this post. But posters may not like my examples of exploded bullshit or illusions for gullible people, which include: Trump is Putin’s puppet, Trump is part of the deep state rather than its enemy, dangerous HCQ kills people, our house is burning down, only people with white skins are racists, lockdown is a good idea, white supremacism threatens our way of life but certain religious and political supremacists do not, communist China and Islamist Iraq are happy, tolerant nations with lots of human rights and freedoms, conservatives and other critics of the left are a more selfish species of human, and actually evil fascists.
Trump is not Putin’s puppet although I think that he, like all US presidents – and British PMs for that matter, is ultimately a representative for the rich. The rich don’t like Trump because he’s not the one they need to present the liberal “let’s save the world” agenda which they require right now. (In that case, you may say he’s an “enemy” of the deep state – although I’d say he is a minor inconvenience which won’t delay them long). The white skin/racist and “white supremacist” stuff are just divide-and-rule diversions. The bit about “communist China and Islamist Iraq are happy, tolerant nations with lots of human rights and freedoms” is just straw man bollocks. As for “conservatives” and selfishness, it’s interesting what Ted Honderich has to say about the matter: The conclusion to which we come is not that conservatives are selfish. It is that they are nothing… Read more »
Are you not questioning why OG isn’t deleting your post, I’ve read nothing else all week
Christopher Bollyn solved 9/11 in his book on the subject. Clamoring for an investigation is pointless in a locked down censored world. The PTB are criminal and evil and will eventually be hoisted by their own petard.
2 upticks for christopher bollyn
one of them from me
no mention of b thing and gelatine
arts projects
i’m just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
i really love to watch them go
Let us hope so, or science has become MEANINGLESS…
LIKE mainstream MEDIA, full of bullshiters, who understand nothing.
Some Arab guys who could barely fly the smallest of planes really put the hours in and improved their skills to the point where they could pull off manoeuvres in large planes that only the very best pilots could manage (at a push). The much-improved aviation enthusiasts then executed those very tricky manouevres to fly planes into a couple of high-rise steel-framed buildings, which caught fire and collapsed. Even though such buildings had never previously reacted in that way to fires. A nearby building (which wasn’t struck by a plane) collapsed due to a small fire in an office. Oh, and there were two other planes involved in unfortunate incidents in the same country on that day: one of them slammed into the Pentagon (leaving a very small hole in the side of the building), and the other crashed and simply disappeared into the ground, leaving no trace of itself.… Read more »
Good, brief synopsis .
My all time favorite “Stranger Than Fiction” tid-bit was one of the hijacker’s unscathed Visa found on the sidewalk away from the Twin Towers.
Not that it’s entirely unusual for a mere piece of paper to survive where metal is destroyed. What is unusual is how the Visa go away from the hijacker’s pocket. Maybe he was showing the pilots who he was as he slit their throats?
Or perhaps the impact of the plane hitting the building sent the hijacker through the plane’s windscreen, and the visa just popped out of his shirt pocket and wafted onto the street below? (The lucky visa would have just escaped being incinerated).
Not that I discount your equally compelling and plausible theory, of course.
Quite right.
Lucky Larry Silverstein is just naturally incredibly lucky.
And the Dancing Israelis just like a bit of dancing now and again, what’s wrong with that?Anyone who doesn’t believe the official conspiracy theory must be a Russian troll or a space lizard, or possibly both.
This blatant Anti-Lucky-Peopleism and Anti-Dancerism must STOP! Otherwise, the Russian troll space-lizards have won.
The worlds elites, foolishly let the US get away, with the most obvious of their hoaxes, the moon landing hoax, and they haven’t looked back since.
If you want to pull the US house of cards down, then take the easiest route, the moon landings hoax. It is so easy to prove a fraud, a child could do it.
The problem is now they have such momentum behind their lies nobody dare challenge them. 9/11 is never going to be conclusive because it is too complex, political and involved, but the moon landings hoax can be a proven without any doubt at all, and would establish the principle of American fraud without doubt.
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Excellent video, the Italians have always understood this issue.
from the same director:
The bankster towers were built in 1969 at the height of the failed Vietnam invasion . Skilled tradesmen quality and materials were in short supply, shoddy construction and corruption were features of that build. Even Mr Trump profited from the situation in that era.
North Tower construction started in August 1968, a coincidental 33 years before they came down.
The communists famously prevailed over the US in Vietnam and Cambodia. The Killing Fields and decades of unimaginable fear and oppression for ordinary people soon followed, making our covid lockdowns and government authoritarianism look like a kids’ picnic. In the mid 70s, Pol Pot and Khymer Rouge massacred around 20-25% of Cambodia’s then population of 7-8m people. Mr Trump knows all about the communist horror, is reportedly ashamed he didn’t serve, and today calls out the tyranny of Chinese communists in HK and in their ’re-education’ camps containing millions of Chinese Muslims, the only western leader with the courage to do so.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-signed-a-law-to-punish-china-for-its-oppression-of-the-uighur-muslims-uighurs-say-much-more-needs-to-be-done/ar-BB168XQ5
The US is defending the Uyghur muslims in China?
Should these Uyghurs be residing in another country, their treatment would include 24/7 drone operations as well as the mother of all bombs.
They would suffer sanctions, be killed, bombed, massacred and poisoned; all democratically on course.
The biggest exporter of terrorism in history is defending the Uyghurs! What a joke!!
America does back the uighurs
The communists kicked pol pot out. And he was supported by MI6 maggie thatcher and the sas. FACT
yes i agree that and the office fires from the kerosene
trickling down the many floors weakening the sub structure
later leading to an instant pancake collapse at free fall speeds
collapsing into it’s own footprint
everything atomized
makes perfect sense jim
jim
can you here me
do you copy
over
At high pressures and temperatures JP4 aka jet fuel, a derivative of kerosene and diesel fuel will explode with the huge release of force which drive most of the worlds large truck engines.
What a silly comment. Engineering was well advanced in the 60’s and the buildings were excellently designed using a perimeter structural wall. They were designed to take an aircraft hit.
Your opinion is not based in facts.
Your opinion is not based on science and clearly you do not understand how diesel becomes inflammable…
It requires compression at a rate far higher than any,
Kerosene or petrol or gas engine, pal, stop the BULLSHIT!
Yo, Jim, have you ever tried putting a lighted cigarette
In a truck diesel tank? Clearly yer’ scientifically CLUELESS
And just trolling! If that’s yer’ best shot at gaskighting, lmao…
Lol, correction… Gaslighting!
Another member of the flat Earth society troll club heard from ?
Would you prefer a Chinese communist Moon?
You just outed yourself as a CIA stooge.
The Lone Gunman assassination of JFK is the primary successful hoax of the last half of the 20th century. Nixon’s moon landing was small potatoes in comparison. From that all the rest flow including the latest covid panic demic that is reordering life as we know it with little protest.
“they have such momentum behind their lies nobody dare challenge them”. Except a million posters like you? Sorry, I’ve seen this conspiracy parroted endlessly, but never with any convincing evidence.
Except a million posters like you? Who have minimal voices in public and I highly doubt millions come to this site. But you go back to spreading anti CIA stuff then spreading pro CIA stuff. Good goy
Millions do come to this site actually – several million this year alone. 🙂
Well.. If today with all this high tech and A.I. we still can only land small objects on the Moon, and not even all the attempts are successful, and with heavier objects we have a record of ZERO landings (just look at the latest fiasco from India) clearly only special kind of distracted people believe in that tale!
Circa 1970 most of us preferred to believe we had put a man on the moon , then the full turpitude of the Johnson/Nixon era became public knowledge and that “truth” died a slow and painful death.
The jumpers were the most tragic, the most humane and most horrifying memory of that day. They fell like rain. The television cameras followed their dizzy trajectory, again and again and again. Then they were wiped from memory. America has deleted the jumpers. Photos are no longer shown. According to the coroner no one even jumped. They fell or were ‘blown out’. Choosing to die is taboo in America. People can’t handle the images. — Erik Mouthaan, RTL News, 2014. Watching on the day, the TV stations spent so much time following jumpers that one wished the cameras would stay still, give us a close up, figure out what was happening in the buildings: to provide factual information not emotion and reflexive banality. The government wanted us to watch planes ad nauseam, to the chants of Bin Laden, Bin Laden, Bin Laden. The government did not want us roused, by… Read more »
Wow, what heartless bitch is going to comment on that and say 1) our memories differ; 2) the picture you give is physically impossible but masonically acurate.
Yes, for sure not a choice to take one’s own life. It’s instinctive to run away from certain death by fire, and jumping gives one a few more seconds to breathe. Absolutely horrible.
If you wanted to rouse anger at the assumed perpetrators, showing the jumpers again and again would be the way to go. I think they stopped showing it because it falls outside of accepted standards. You know, violence pornography. It’s just as well. The decent aspect of humanity also asserted itself in criticizing showing the collapsing buildings over and over again.
I understand the need for their to be a push back against the Official Conspiracy Theory on so many levels, but there is one level that should be a top of any discussion on 9/11.
Irrespective that you believe in the Official Conspiracy Theory or not, it should be outlined that we all believe in the intrinsic right of the families, friends and loved ones who lost someone on that day and since to be able to hold their Government to account. This has a primacy, because it affects anyone who has lost anyone to terrorism(?). 7/7 springs to mind in the UK for starters.
That would shame the Official Conspiracy Theorists somewhat.
be careful, you’ll summon the resident disinfo troll here, who claims that nobody died on 9/11/2001.
While it’s ridiculous to say no one died on 9/11 it’s not ridiculous to consider that many victims named aren’t real people
I have recently published a book, Justice for the Families. This book contains compelling evidence which is unseen on the many 9/11 TV programmes by National Geographia etc. This includes photo evidence of Israel having used nano-thermite in her silent bombs of the Cast Lead attacks on Gaza in 2008
If israel doesn’t like Country C then Israel can produce evidence that Country C is behind 9/11.
The US/FIVE EYES/NATO/ALLIES unconditionally love israeli evidence.
Now why would that be? Could it be because lots of ‘Israelis’ own / run most things in the Anglosphere?
He was giving orders and most people didn’t notice. Pathetic little lap dogs sell outs of their own country.
Has
Milosevic
Resigned?
And you have,
Inherited his links?
Just a thought…
Does the capacity for evil belong only to humans with American or Israeli or British passports? Given human history, human nature, and the outrageous horrors being committed in non-white tyrannies all over the the world today, that’s a very tough if not impossible claim to defend. Also, won’t you have to condemn black Americans, Arab Israelis and British Muslims because of their nationalities? If not, on what grounds can they be exempted from your judgement?
You’re ridiculously and hysterically hilarious
China did it, right?
The End Justifies The Means. A characteristic belief or trait of modern government. Without it, you could have had neither 911 nor Event Covid; governments would be unable to justify bank bailouts or repressive legislation written in advance.
https://www.ethicssage.com/2018/04/do-the-ends-justify-the-means.html
The means modify the ends. You don’t have the ends in your power, but you have the means.
The FBI and CDC love this conspiracy stuff: helps distract attention from their actual mistakes. The FBI didn’t closely watch Saudi jihad trainees in US CIA camps in 2001, while the CDC advised the US badly through out 2020: they neglected the most venerable – the oldest, the very obese and those with hart, liver and kidney problems, while locking down the other 90% healthy residents. Neither were planned: both were accidental and after mismanaged.
In neoliberal democracies, hurting the disadvantage is a doctrine.
That kind of thing might work on the BBC page, but you’re outclassed here. I should hope a Russian bot could do better.
you’re mistaken, it’s an Israeli bot.
the ‘oldest’ are ‘venerable’ in some societies, but I don’t think you’d get away with calling people with serious medical conditions ‘venerable’ in most circumstances ..
it’s an understandable mistake, from someone whose first language is Modern Hebrew.
Let me know how a person with your level of civil avaition pilotsmanship took control of a Jet and flew the flight profile that he did to hit the Pentagon and I’ll act like you can engage in a adult conversation on the subject.
— or how WTC-7 came to collapse, even though its scheduled meeting with an airliner failed to materialize.
these disinfo trolls are just pathetic. they go on repeating the same tired lies, from their years-old script, long after they have ceased to have any effect on anybody who cares.
Conspiracy Stuff for Antonym.
Who Killed RFK and is that backed up as fact by the autopsy report?
Yes let’s vent our rage on this “mismanagement”. Our movers and shakers are just clowns shambling around. No idea what they’re doing. Why they’re just lovable buffoons!
Back being all Jewish Andy underhanded again antonym?
I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you!
I never knew this was a Limited Hangout Den!
Now hand me my winnings from the Hard BrexShit and bonuses from Fear Porn CV titillations and diversion from the most significant political, miscarriage of Justice, prosecutions since Mandela in the English and Scottish Courts – WHOLLY unreported in the MSM and toerag Alt-Media.
And let’s rock and roll with the Great Diversion, even if it is now nearly 20 years old …Gosh won’t it’s 21st be a hoot!
Anything, but the sick, hard BS reality of protecting the Money and its Creators.
No it’s NOT taxpayers money – it NEVER has been.
Can you give new(ish) readers some hints?
That’s a friendly question and I gladly will offer to lead you to the trough of knowledge, which is the task of shills and propagandists and media whores and their flying troll puppets, to conceal, under their wide mud throwing lakes.
What would you like clues to exactly?
It is best to take it in chewable bites. 🙂
chewable bites
yes, disinfo always goes down easier, that way. it reduces the unpleasant aftertaste of cognitive dissonance.
to the extent most people have less money because they are paying some of it in ‘taxes’
does make at least some of ‘it’ ‘taxpayer’s money’
Instant FAIL.
Money only exists to PAY taxes any that is left over is private sector SAVINGS and is misnamed as Government Debt.
Governments don’t tax THEN spend – it is exactly the OPPOSITE.
it is the greatest deceit of the history and religion of Money by its high priests.
you seem to understand there is some serious deceit going on around the whole notion of ‘money’, but you’ve got the blocks lined up pretty incorrectly – keep working at it, enlightenment awaits at the end of something. You could ask Alice when she was ten feet tall with a better perspective ..
the Great Diversion
tell that to the people of Iraq, whose entire society was destroyed on that fake pretext.
OT discussion Dun – this is about 9/11.
9/11 & COVID are indeed connected because in both events we can see that the same slaves with the same college degrees act accordingly to their current plantation owners!
The ones at NIST MUST OBEY the Orders from ABOVE and invent and fabric BS math and fairy tale to claim that office fires can transform steel into dust and cause the collapse of a steel frame building, if they DO NOT OBEY, well… goodby nice job and paycheck slave!
The ones not at NIST – with the same college degree – since are not bound to the paycheck and nice job, can actually see and report on what happened!
In CUVID (CU=ASS) OPERATION land… we see the same! Just look at the PCR fraudulent tests and that’s all it takes to see how scoundrels do operate!
office fires can transform steel into dust
where do you get this BS from?
there’s no “steel dust”; the dust is from the thousands of tonnes of concrete used in the floor slabs. get a clue.
obviously, office fires cannot reduce concrete to dust, either; that requires massive quantities of explosives. much more than could be transported in an airplane, contra the first idiot who claimed that.
Well… A simple OBSERVATION of the area right after the COLLAPSE shows no visible amount of the more than 200,000 tons of steel that both towers had!
I mean two 400+ meters tall steel frame buildings would at least leave a nice big pile of steel in the ground!
http://www.clker.com/cliparts/9/a/8/9/125742243417474201026bhg9o.png
Firemen reported molten steel running down the gunnels “like in a foundry”. Their eyewitness report was omitted from the Bush/Cheney regime’s “National” Investigative Committee.
Yep… And what HEAT SOURCE can cause such river of steel?!
Nanothermite, drongo.
Cliff, thanks for saving me the trouble of replying to this obvious troll. He/It knows the answer, just roBOT-like repeating a programmed diversionary question.
The Bush crime dynasty’s connection with Thermite companies goes right back to Shrub Bush’s grandpappy Prescot Bush, and the Japanese company which gave young Prescott the start on his path toward financing Hitler and his New World Order:
https://youtu.be/n_fp5kaVYhk
Yes… they must have buried mega tonnes of nanothermite in the ground, and then after the towers collapse they ignited it!
@V0: “and then after the towers collapse they ignited it!”
Voz, I apologize for calling you a roBOT, you’re not a robot you’re an idiOT: obviously they ignited all those tons of thermite _before_ the towers collapsed. Cause _follows_ effect: try to get your head round that.
Yes… THAT’S IT! And then the river of steel kept on flowing because they were always igniting more nt!
Brilliant!!!
Oops! Cause _precedes_ effect.
And how long lasts the chemical reaction of nanothermite, mongo?!
Nanothermite melts steel, pendejo, which is why it was used to cut through the interior box columns. The molten steel then flowed downwards, you know, from gravity? Pobrecito. 🤣
Once a moron ALWAYS a moron… That’s Cliff!
From A&E911Truth:
“A photograph taken 16 days after the 9/11 event shows an excavator grabbing debris that remains solid even though it is glowing in the salmon-to-yellow hot range. Dr. Jones notes that the solid metal, glowing in the 845°C/1550°F to 1080°C/1975°F temperature range, could not have been aluminum, lead, or other metals with low melting points, because none of them could have remained solid in this range.”
16 days igniting nano-termite! I guess they didn’t had nothing better to do…
Yes, sorry, I was wrong – I’ve just realised that YOU melted the steel by lighting your farts!
Obviously, the exploding planes and resulting fireballs had nothing to do with it. It’s too obvious. The conspiracy theorists need something else.
there’s steel column sections all over the place, in that picture. they’ve been very conveniently cut into lengths suitable for removal by truck. you must be quite blind.
I guess we’re now two…
We are all slaves on the digital plantation now
Yes we are… Even for those like me that don’t use/have smartphones, smart gadgets, smart houses, smart cars, living on smart cities!
We’re screwed!
Beats me why you also thought it was a good idea to eliminate “smart” from your brain.
I’m not smart like you… I’m just Intelligent!
I’ve known kerosene pumps with more brains than you.
I’ve met kerosene pumps with more brains than you.
Well… you’re just another moron slave. keep up.
Sorry but a “moron slave” is the likes of you who argues in favour of the official conspiracy theory. Repeat after me: “BAA BAA BAA”.
Indeed you’re a moron slave, you can’t even read, you don’t know the official conspiracy theory and your smartphone is way smarter than you…
Diddums. Go back on your mummy’s teat, pendejo.
Worn those hairs off your palm yet, pajero?
I’ve seen short clips of “Harley Guy” before, but it’s only recently that I first saw the complete version. Note the hand signal near the start!
“Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense”
Lol
LOL, indeed.
the lady doth protest too much, methinks.
You beat me to it. Wow, what an odd interview – pulling some “anonymous” guy off the street during one of the most chaotic scenarios imaginable and the reporter is particularly interested to have his unrattled, salesman-like rehearsed take on what thousands of others witnessed. A witness who just happened to coin one of the most repeated lines of the official, state-sponsored conspiracy theory “Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense.” Remarkable. And a hand talker to boot!
I had FOX on all that day, maybe even saw that interview which is so obvious now, but I didn’t suspect a thing.
That was well rehearsed that one. I am no engineer but I cant imagine that airplane fuel and office furniture would burn at a temperature high enough to melt or otherwise cause ‘structural failure’ – what, dozens of floors below?
Lol the entire thing is laughable.
911 is a good way to know if you’re dealing with an awake person or not, as in asking whether they think it’s aninside job. If they think it’s legit, they’re asleep.
fake leftists make it a point of principle to defend every last detail of the Official 9/11 Faery Tale, even though they’re well aware of the widespread dissident analysis of it. they seem to think that it’s a unfair attack on the good name of the US government, which they wouldn’t hesitate to denounce in any other context, except COVID-1984.
and God forbid that anybody should mention the Five Dancing Israelis, or anything like that.
it gives a fairly strong indication of who is really pulling their strings.
Yes. Anything which could potentially lead to criticism of Israel causes them to immediately shut down. They will invent any false reality in order not to go there. They will defend their false reality even with vitriolic attacks.
True intellectual lightweights / children.
” That’s a wake up call when you see cops running for their lives”… remarks the badly scripted anchor ..
Yes, I suppose so. Nothing to do with two huge explosions bringing two skyscrapers to the floor in under 4 minutes.That’s not remarkable at all. But policemen running..there’s your red flag.
Check the black guy behind ‘Harely Guy’ trying to listen to his stooge and his earpiece at the same time.Welcome to America. The biggest town in Hollywood.
He [ Harley Shill] was working ‘freelance for Fox’ as the Fox anchor stumbled into him.He used the term ground zero which was to be part of the official fairy tale later.Along with his ‘structural failure’ hypothesis . Mark Walsh. Dickhead.( and some time fox freelancer and part time structural engineer)
Watched the 911 false flag in real-time after the 1st aircraft hit. Swallowed the official conspiracy theory at first- which shows how the entire thing ran to the same psychology as a grand magic ‘illusion’. And NO, people claiming ‘no planes’ are Deep State disinfo ‘poison the well’ agents. Actually the planes were ‘penetrator’ DRONES, whose nose and leading wing edges had been filled with a dense material to ensure they’d sink deeply into the buildings. Like hitting a person with the ‘spine’ of a newspaper with a hidden steel rule hidden inside to massively increase the momentum force. The planes were filled with explosives, designed to trigger for effect when the plane penetrated to the massive steel core at the centre of the WTC towers. The second drone plane actually missed the centre, and was going to sail, largely intact, thru the other side of the building, until its… Read more »
That is even worse than the fabricated official version!
1st… how can 2 planes hitting 2 steel frame buildings cause the collapse and and transformation into dust of the street level steel?!
2nd… how come did the 2nd steel tower (WTC2) to be hit by a plane was the one that collapsed 1st (even worse if like you said “The second drone plane actually missed the centre“)?!
3rd… how can the underground rock melt with a mere office fire?!
continues…
4th…how can a rubber tire survive the explosion of the “drone plane filled with explosives” cut steel from the opposite side of the entry point, and still have enough kinetic energy to fly far away and land in the middle of two buildings?
5th… How did those 2 drone planes caused the collapse and transformed steel into dust on WTC7?
Berrry Shimple!!
Sheeple even believe in clean coal. DDT. Thalidmide (not any more). Pandemrix. Asbestos (not so much these days. . . hmmm) Hey Glyphospate is great!!! Go GMO!!! GO 5G!!!! Oh, and the Pope is a nice ‘guy’.
Have a bettah won earthlings or things!
Yep… Maybe if we start to write with the Sheeple Alphabet they might be able to get it!
9/11 cover-up entails using fake conspiracy theory and bogus science to keep the truth from the public. Richard Gage, along with Stephen E Jones are “limited hangout” agents. While they disagree with the official account and agree that 9/11 was a false flag they hide behind bogus scientific evidence to keep the truth about the exotic technology that was used from the public. It is they who are deliberately poisoning the well. The only truly scientific and forensic analysis of the evidence that has ever been done is by the structural engineer, Dr Judy Wood.
People claiming NO PLANES are not Deep State disinfo agents. Quite the opposite in fact.
The thing to remember is that no amount of explosives could account for what happened. The buildings, along with all their contents, turned to dust. They were pulverised. They simply went away. They did not blow up.
They did not blow up.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/explosive-features
At mark 30 secs!
They used nuclear demolition devices… It is the only known technique that can generate such outcomes.
The control center was on WTC7, that’s why the first building that had to go was WTC2 (even though it was the last to be hit by the aircraft!), because if they used the nuclear device first on WTC1 the crater and energy could destroy the communication links to the device for WTC2… So WTC2 goes 1st, then WTC1 and finally to destroy ALL EVIDENCE WTC7 goes last.
This also explains the amount of first responders and other personnel that developed cancer!
It also explains the molten underground rocks and the “earthquakes” that preceded each collapse!
asbestos = cancer
On this particular case is thyroid cancer, leukemia and prostate cancer
You have to read more!
Nuclear devices have telltale signatures left in the atmosphere the soil etc
Yep… And they were all present on that area!
There is no evidence of nuclear devices or of radiation sickness in any of the first responders. Nuclear devices do not explain the evidence, the weird gravity effects, the odd fires, the bent and corroded metal. There was no heat at all. Remember all the paper that fell on Lower Manhattan? None of it burned.
I guess those 1st responders that died and are going to die from radiation induce cancers are just unlucky!
There is no evidence the cancers were induced by exposure to radiation. The dust was full of known carcinogens and the radiation levels measured by the USGS and by independent scientists were barely above background.
Well.. Admin1, underground nuclear detonation of small scale devices rarely cause a radiation spike at the surface. What caused the radiation poisoning was the first 24/48H of vapor that was venting! Or you also didn’t saw that?! And this is nothing NEW! The US government have done it! In December, 1967, scientists from the Atomic Energy Commission and officials from the U.S. Bureau of Mines and El Paso Natural Gas Company gathered at a gas well in northern New Mexico, near Farmington. They lowered a 29-kiloton nuclear device more than 4,000 feet down the shaft and set it off.It worked.“The 4,042-foot-deep detonation created a molten glass-lined cavern about 160 feet in diameter and 333 feet tall,” according to the American Oil and Gas Historical Society. “It collapsed within seconds. Subsequent measurements indicated fractures extended more than 200 feet in all directions – and significantly increased natural gas production.”The Atomic Energy Commission… Read more »
How exactly would a fission or fission/fusion bomb NOT produce neutrons and other effects that would be measured as increased radiation?
Follow the link! And do not forget that the detonation was underground… But it seems that it would be easier to rig those 3 “small” buildings with explosives from bottom to top, and set them off after a few months!
There is nothing in that link about that issue or supporting your claims.
I won’t waste anymore time with this… Clearly a lot of reading is necessary! In a subsurface burst, most of the shock energy of the explosion appears as underground or underwater shock, but a certain proportion, which is less the greater the depth of the burst, escapes and produces air blast. Much of the thermal radiation and of the initial nuclear radiation will he absorbed within a short distance of the explosion. The energy of the absorbed radiations will merely contribute to the heating of the ground or body of water.Depending upon the depth of the explosion, some of the thermal and nuclear radiations will escape, but the intensities will generally be less than for an air burst. However, the residual nuclear radiation, i.e., the radiation emitted after the first minute, now becomes of considerable significance, since large quantities of earth or water in the vicinity of the explosion will… Read more »
Are you under the impression that what you are quoting supports your claim there would be no evidence of radiation?
Hint – it doesn’t.
No dispute they are dying of cancers. Particulates produced by LENR are toxic. We know what radiation sickness looks like and it’s nothing like what 9/11 1st responders are getting.
Of course is not! They are having cancers because they are unlucky!
You are Andrew Johnson I presume? No one else is bothering to promote Judy Wood’s drunken ravings but him any more
What counts, when it comes to the truth, is scientific evidence, not how popular someone is on social media, although in your world….
True.
So why doesn’t Wood pursue the proper scientific method? Put forward an hypothesis involving DEW weapons – test it against the data.
Publishing a bunch of photos of large debris fields while exclaiming “where did the towers go?!?” is not scientific is it?
Wood has indeed pursued the proper scientific method in her analysis of WTC collapse, for example her analysis of samples of steel from WTC7, dust from the Bankers Trust building, and tritium data from ground water under WTC6. The exotic weaponry hypothesis arises from this and other data analysis. Her book is therefore much more than a set of photos of debris and unscientific exclamations. Dr Wood has a PhD in Materials Engineering Science so is eminently qualified to be heard and taken seriously. She launched a Qui Tam case against the the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) for its fraudulent report on WTC collapse. Why does Off-Guardian instead choose to listen to Richard Gage, “limited hangout” agent from the same stable as Stephen E. Jones? Do you dismiss the existence of exotic weapons, hidden technology and LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions)?? May I respectfully suggest doing a… Read more »
Richard Gage is a disinformation shill. The folks who get publicity are shills to distract from the TRUTH (Richard Gage, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, etc and usually CIA assets). The ones who DON’T get publicity are the ones to follow. I’m a Physicist since 30+ years. Dr Judy Wood is spot on. The only book you need pay attention to is “where did the towers go”
As a physicist could your explain your reasoning here?
Do you need a physics degree to believe your own eyes? When you watch the towers come down are you watching a structural collapse or a building turn to dust before it hits the ground? If you think the latter, what evidence would prove it?
How many fingers do you see, Winston?
Oh yes, Wood and her “directed energy weapons”. ROFLMAO
The Dancing Israelis is a masterclass in layers of deception. They didn’t exist They did exist but they were Arabs Trump ‘misremembers’ thousands of muslims in New Jersey celebrating. Press howls in ‘outrage’ at his racism Press simultaneously ‘remembers’: Some Muslims in New Jersey did celebrate the 9/11 terror attacks during rooftop and street parties And only if you read alt news, research and revisionist sites, do you know to use search terms like: “dancing israelis” “interviewed on television” 911 … still you run into dozens of ADL posts, … the phrases ‘conspiracy theory’, ‘hoax, and ‘anti-semitism’ Yada, yada, yada … Fact Checkers point the masses to a dead end … But we know to change search engine from Gooldag to Dogpile … and … and … dancingisraelis.com The Dancing Israelis : FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks Now search not by ‘web’ or ‘news’… Read more »
you can add this to your link collection:
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport
All the videos depicting Flight175 ghosting into the WTC defy the laws of physics so are fake.
Now why should one believe anything hit the building?
Remember, it was rigged for demolition so firing missiles into it would have caused it’s immediate collapse, but it stood for an hour so everyone could evacuate all two towers.