9/11 and the Politics of Fear and Self-Preservation
Whitney Webb
The 20th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is a particularly somber one, not just because of the horrific nature of events of that day reaching its second-decade milestone, but because of how little we seem to have learned in that amount of time.
The fear and trauma generated by the events of 9/11 were used by the US national security state and its civilian allies to great effect to divide the American population, to attack independent reporting as well as independent thought, to gut the anti-war movement, and to normalize the US government’s overt and persistent degradation of the country’s Constitution.
This, of course, is in addition to the illegal US occupations and drone wars in the Middle East and elsewhere that were also born out of this event.
The true beneficiaries of 9/11
As a nation, the US populace has failed to grapple with these realities, and many others, in the two decades since the Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 fell.
Far from bringing any benefit to the alleged masterminds of the event, the results of 9/11 instead overwhelmingly favored the ambitions of a powerful faction within the US national security state that had long sought to bring the dissident-elimination efforts it spent decades implementing abroad – from the Phoenix Program in Vietnam to Operation Condor in South America – home to roost.
As a result, the response of the US government to the attack supposedly launched by those “who hate us for our freedom” was to work to reduce our freedoms and civil liberties.
Now, 20 years on, the sophisticated “War on Terror” apparatus has been fully turned into a “War on Domestic Terror,” with many of those who once opposed the war on terrorism abroad now cheering on the ratcheting up of its domestic equivalent.
Yet, the domestic terror apparatus being swiftly created and implemented very clearly targets individuals and ideologies on both sides of the political divide.
It is also extremely vague, essentially leaving it up to those holding the reins of political power – whether Democrat, Republican or something else – to decide who is “terrorist” and who is not. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it was Joe Biden back in the mid-1990s who introduced legislation that would have given the president sole and unappealable authority to define what constitutes “terrorism,” a fact that was omitted from media coverage of last year’s presidential campaign and the past several months of his presidency.
A crisis of courage
It seems clear at this point that one of the key reasons the US continues to hemorrhage its remaining civil liberties, either as a result of the new “War on Domestic Terrorism” or as a response to COVID-19, is that it is undergoing a crisis of conscience and courage in grappling with not just the true nature of the events of 9/11 itself, but with the orthodoxy over the “official story” of those events.
Even two decades after the fact, it is still deemed too controversial or unthinkable to question whether the official story is an accurate portrayal of the events that transpired on and led to that day.
This is despite the fact that the official story itself, presumably the same story told by the 9/11 Commission report, has been labeled incomplete, and unable to answer major questions about that day, by its very authors.
In addition, the official story relies heavily on testimony obtained through extreme torture, meaning it is of questionable accuracy.
Many of those who have been quick and vocal to point out the lies of the US government when it comes to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and other consequences of the War on Terror have been unable to even consider that the official story of 9/11 may not be legitimate and may indeed have been dealt from the same pack.
This may be for a variety of reasons, including a strong desire to not be de-legitimized by their peers as bearers of the “conspiracy theorist” smear and an unwillingness to face a political reality where US government officials may have been complicit in a deadly attack on American soil.
In those two examples, however, the failure of such individuals, particularly in media, to even consider that there may be more to the story boils down to a desire for self-preservation in the case of the former and preservation of a particular worldview in the case of the latter. Yet, in both cases, the casualty is the truth and the cause is cowardice.
By failing as a society to thoroughly examine the events of 9/11 and why those events occurred, the American public has shown the powers that be that their desire to preserve a “safe” worldview — and to preserve their own careers, in the case of certain professional classes — is enough to keep people from questioning world-altering events when they emerge. Those powers are well aware of this refusal and have been using it to their advantage ever since.
The poison remains in our system
Today, with the COVID-19 crisis still dragging on, we are similarly immersed in a situation where nuance and facts are being cast aside, militantly in some cases, in favor of the establishment narrative. Is everyone who chooses not to take this particular vaccine a “conspiracy theorist” and “anti-vaxxer”?
Does it really make sense to so dramatically divide the public into groups of vaccinated and unvaccinated through a new ID system when the vaccine claims to reduce the severity of illness but not to stop disease transmission? Should those that question the motivation of politicians, powerful pharmaceutical corporations and mainstream media “experts” be censored from expressing those views online?
You do not need to agree with those who hold such views, but what is wrong with hearing what they have to say and debating their evidence with your own?
We are losing the ability to have rational public discourse about these issues — and losing it swiftly, at a speed comparable to what took place in the aftermath of 9/11, when questioning the motives of the Bush administration, US intelligence agencies and other groups, as well as their proposed responses and “solutions,” was deemed “unpatriotic” and even “treasonous” by some.
Calls were made to strip an entire class of Americans of their freedom for merely sharing the same ethno-religious identities as those we were told attacked us, and many went along with it. Freedom became treated as a privilege only for certain groups, not as a right, and this insidious fallacy has reared its head yet again in recent months in relation to the COVID-19 vaccine debate and also the war on domestic terror.
Our pandemic of fear
Though the failure to consider explanations for 9/11 that deviate from the official story can be called cowardice, the most enduring lesson 20 years on from 9/11 is perhaps that fear was and remains the most powerful tool that has been consistently used to whittle down our freedom and civil liberties.
While the divide-and-conquer strategies have raged on from 9/11 to the present, the largest wealth transfers in history have occurred, creating an unaccountable and ultra-wealthy super-elite that dominates an ever-growing underclass.
The march towards this de facto neo-feudalism certainly didn’t begin on or after 9/11, but our collective failure to grapple with the narrative orthodoxies of that day have prevented us from fully understanding the big picture of that event as well as many subsequent and similarly consequential events.
For too long, the desire to preserve our self-image, our reputation, and the worldview we are taught in school has all too often made hard, difficult truths a casualty.
In order to truly understand the War on Terror, the domestic surveillance state and our current reality, we must accept that we were lied to about 9/11. We must ask the hard questions and accept hard truths. We must put an end to the 20-plus-year-long pandemic of fear over “invisible enemies,” fear that has pushed us to surrender the very freedoms that we are told we are protecting.
The United States, and much of the world, is quickly becoming an unrecognizable and authoritarian dystopia. We cannot wait another two decades to grapple with the difficult questions and realities that arose after 9/11 and persist into the present.
We will either be remembered as a country that took freedom and liberty for all seriously or we will be remembered as a nation of cowards who, driven by fear, were willing to deprive this group, then that group, of their freedom — before losing that freedom entirely.
Originally published by Mintpress News
Whitney Webb has been a professional writer, researcher and journalist since 2016. She has written for several websites and, from 2017 to 2020, was a staff writer and senior investigative reporter for MintPress News. She currently writes for her own outlet Unlimited Hangout and contributes to The Last American Vagabond and MintPress News
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In his 1988 follow-up text, Comments on the Society of the Spectacle, Debord introduces a third form: the integrated. As its name suggests, the integrated spectacle is a combination of diffuse and concentrated elements. Debord bleakly concludes that the integrated spectacle now permeates all reality. “There remains nothing, in culture or nature, which has not been transformed, and polluted according to the means and interests of modern industry,” he writes. Today, the integrated spectacle continues to provide abundant commodities while defending itself with the use of misinformation and misdirection. According to Debord, it does this primarily through the specter of terrorism:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WnmigXAmviI6R8TgufDY-UY8VLS0II3Z/view?usp=sharing
“9/11 CNN Pentagon Report – NO PLANE – Only Aired Once
00:00 actually was bob franken with and
00:01 eyewitness who said it appeared that
00:03 that Boeing 757 the American jet
00:06 American Airlines jet landed short of
00:09 the Pentagon can you give us any better
00:12 idea of how much of the plane actually
00:13 impacted the building you know it might
00:16 have appeared that way but from my
00:18 close-up inspection there’s no evidence
00:20 of a plane having crashed anywhere near
00:22 the Pentagon the only site is the actual
00:26 side of the building that’s crashed in
00:27 and as I said the only pieces left
00:30 that you can see are small enough that
00:32 you could pick up in your hand there are
00:34 no large tail sections wing sections a
00:37 fuselage nothing like that anywhere
00:39 around which would indicate that the
00:41 entire plane crashed into the side of
00:43 the Pentagon and then caused the side to
00:46 collapse now even though if you look at
00:47 the pictures of the Pentagon you see
00:49 that the floors have all collapsed that
00:51 didn’t happen immediately
00:52 it wasn’t until almost about 45 minutes
00:55 later that the structure was weakened “
It was available about 3 years ago!
Now: “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s policy on hate speech. Learn more about combating hate speech in your country.”
Shills like Ryan Dawson will set you straight on the Pentagon. Coz he’s a mmmmmmassive shill.
As with Covid-19 as with 9/11. The number sequence 911, is an emergency response code for North America, i.e., Canada, USA & MX. The 3-no sequence is different for the UK=999; for the EU=112; yet for Saudi Arabia…take a guess>>>911! So, if the inside job aficionados wanted to burn a number sequence into the brains of the sheeple, take a good guess at what they might select, eh?
What you are saying was obvious at the time. Clearly a psyop.
The Politcis of Obedience, written in 1552 By Etienne de La Boetie
Free download:
https://mises.org/library/politics-obedience-discourse-voluntary-servitude
Thanks. Downloaded. Will add it to my gargantuan reading list.
Boetie, I also have other work of him in my list: Diacourse On the Voluntary Servitude, seems good by the title.
On 9/11 those who “hated us” for our freedom were: multinational corporations, Wall Street, the security state, and uber-wealthy international
financiers. Today, we can include big tech (a branch of the security state) and big pharma in this bouillabaisse of despots.
Whenever an event of major proportions occur there’s a good chance it’s a “security state shenanigan.” And if these shenanigans are permitted to occur without prolonged public outrage resulting in humiliting litigation or mortifying political consequences then the public has given the sociopaths a “green light” to escalate abuse on a willing population.
That’s why it’s imperative to analyze every “official narrative” and if there’s “overt contradictions” immediately pushback against the lies which subsequently result in needless wars or in psychological terror campaigns at home. The more “blantant untruths” populations are willing to accept the more the powerful will dish-out.
Citzens will inevitably become little more than “Stockholm Syndrome victims” suffering mass psychosis and developing positive feelings towards their abusers and ironically a blind trust to all their ludicrous illogical narratives, hence COVID 1984.
The war against humanity came home to roost when the ghouls were assured the technoloy existed to establish worldwide “digital dominion” over billions.
https://seetvnetwork.com/programs/michael-yeadon-full-interview-planet-lockdown-22c546
Ms. Webb gives a rather socio-psychological analysis of Americans and American society’s action and reaction to 9-11 and puts Americans to task and ask the questions why and how. Very valid and much needed.
She also points out the corruption and power-hungry of American political structures and aims. Very valid as well.
She also, in passing, states that the beneficiaries of such events and aftermath are those belonging to an elite of Americans. Valid as well, if misguided.
And yet, where does Israel and Zionism appear anywhere in Ms. Webb’s analysis? She could have very well said the same things about Israelis and Zionists. Just substitute Israelis and Zionists for Americans in the three points above and they will still be valid.
I suspect it would be too much to ask from Ms. Webb. Not because of her lack of investigative means or powerful resources, of course.
Expecting her to go even further and research and understand Jewish Power, is, of course, beyond the pale.
Creating narratives… always.
Freedom from Fear: Stop Playing the Government’s Mind Games
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/freedom_from_fear_stop_playing_the_governments_mind_games
Not only does fear grease the wheels of the transition to fascism by cultivating fearful, controlled, pacified, cowed citizens, but it also embeds itself in our very DNA so that we pass on our fear and compliance to our offspring.
It’s called epigenetic inheritance, the transmission through DNA of traumatic experiences.
For example, neuroscientists have observed how quickly fear can travel through generations of mice DNA. As The Washington Post reports:
The conclusion? “A newborn mouse pup, seemingly innocent to the workings of the world, may actually harbor generations’ worth of information passed down by its ancestors.”
Now consider the ramifications of inherited generations of fears and experiences on human beings. As the Post reports, “Studies on humans suggest that children and grandchildren may have felt the epigenetic impact of such traumatic events such as famine, the Holocaust and the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.”
And we all know how trustworthy the Washington Post is.
So of all the mass tragedies, warfare and fear events in human history passed genetically its obvious from above that there is the one true event (TM) which must stand out.
Must be prepping for reparations for their offspring through genetically passed trauma.
Victoria, Aus: Andrews/police/FaceSpook block livestreaming of mass demonstrations and cop violence.
Nurses and teachers announce intention to join protests.
https://twitter.com/TJ0057/status/1440999757078573057
I hope this coming together and rise of the common people spreads to Canada.
Troop carriers, heavily-armed & armoured robocops, and now soldiers (? men in green/khaki uniform) are out in force in Melbourne, intimidating & arresting demonstrators, or trying to. (They are fighting back.) Vic. govt has now also forbidden the media to use helicopters. They don’t want any of this shown to the world.
We now have an operational apartheid system in most European countries. The Vax Pass is a reality. The unjabbed are barred from restaurants, pubs, clubs, concert halls, theatres, cinemas, museums, libraries & most shops, and many have already been sacked from their jobs or “forced to resign”.
For over 18 months now, masks have been compulsory on buses, trains & planes, and in supermarkets. People have been trained to accept it. De facto, it’s the new normal.
Pfizer, Moderna & co. are making a killing. Their profits & share prices are skyrocketing.
Bezos & Gates are richer than ever. The richest billionaires will soon be trillionaires
Central bank digital currencies are now being openly planned, as is the abolition of cash.
Food inflation is at around 4% and rising. As winter approaches in the N. hemisphere, gas shortages are imminent.
Children of five and even younger will soon be force-jabbed.
When the lockdowns began in mid-March 2020 I called it the start of a global fascist coup. I was accused of talking nonsense and told to use my “common sense”.
Can we call it a global fascist coup now?
Yes, we definitely can. And with it comes mass maiming and mass murder.
“The richest billionaires will soon be trillionaires.”
If so, they’ll join those who have been at the game for longer, with far broader interests than cloud operators and e-tailers.
Broader and deeper control of society – for what’s deeper than centuries of control of debt.
I called it a global economic and social engineering operation. We are both right!
You did and you still can.
Nurses and teachers, alright!
Smear the Messenger To Discredit the Message: Propaganda War 101https://www.unite4truth.com/post/speak-no-evil-how-corporate-political-abusers-inflict-severe-harm-feign-benevolence
Timeline: 9/11 to Covid-19
https://www.unite4truth.com/post/timeline-911-to-covid-19-manufactured-crisis-to-usher-in-great-reset-new-global-control-system
9/11 is a generation away now and even when it happened few believed the governments various tales of who did it . Today most of us could care less about it and trying to intertwine that event with what is going on today is a fools errand at best .
Since everything is connected on some level (maybe a quantum level?), it is no more foolish to consider a connection between 911 and COVID than between any two other events bearing similarities and displaying the same fingerprints.
The criminal fraud of 9/11 is a precursor to the criminal fraud of Covid 19…
“Today most of us could care less about it and trying to intertwine that event with what is going on today is a fools errand at best.”
People like you could not possibly care less about the murderous scam that was 9/11. It’s due in large part to such care-nothings that the even more grotesquely mendacious Covid Coup has succeeded as easily as it has.
Twenty years’ training in passivity, careerism, selfishness, moral cowardice and wilful ignorance have not passed without consequence. Clown World wasn’t built in a day.
There is an element of obsessing over how and why the stable door came to be open, while the horse has long bolted, run rampage and caused irrevocable damage.
Better to worry about retrieving the horse, the damage the horse has done and how to go about repairing it (if that’s even possible this side of heaven).
“Nobody Expects the Scum Rebellion.”
“Its chief weapon is TRUTH.”
I want a tee-shirt with scum rebellion on it.
A great name for a band i want to play my lectric-mando with.
Scum rebellion hey? It’s in the paper therefore it’s true.
Scum doesn’t bubble up from below, it floats serenely on top.
That ABC hack Lipson was in the USA when the ”pandemic” hit NY, he flatly refused to look at any facts, just the ABC talking points
The only way to believe the 9/11 narrative is to want to believe it, it’s that absurd. Remember the cartoon of bin Laden’s cave fortress that Tim Russert showed Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld on Meet the Press? Rumsfeld’s answer was that bin Laden had several caves like that. The fact of that MTP exchange alone should have exploded the 9/11 narrative. What kind of intelligence did they have to say bin Laden did it when they thought he had those super caves? I mean, it is asinine https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/omnuey/osama_bin_ladens_cave_complex_tora_bora/
In conversation, many people have doubts that we have the truth about 9/11 but they won’t take the next step. Same for the “raid” that killed bin Laden and gave his body a “respectful burial at sea.” If I don’t believe a story, I don’t believe it but I have learned that many people can believe and disbelieve at the same time.
With Covid, there are 2 things going on: (1) Whether you believe it’s a deadly disease worthy of a pandemic and extreme measures and/or (2) how eager you are to “get back to normal.” The government, media, pharma and employers have a solution for both: Take this drug! Not really a solution for either but we can only hope that people will see it.
Getting together suicide squads and hijacking airliners was not a big deal at the time especially when religion is involved when the regime in power is corrupt to the core and occupied in lining their own pockets at the expense of national security.
Airliners ?
No airliner had been hijacked in the decade before 9/11 in America.
No big deal getting the USAF to stand down with four hijacked airliners in the sky. Just takes one phone call.
https://www.unite4truth.com/post/timeline-911-to-covid-19-manufactured-crisis-to-usher-in-great-reset-new-global-control-system
Thought this is a pretty good one.
And true too
Big Brother, well, maybe…
Big Botherers: all over the place
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Botherer? Should that not be ‘Big Murderer’? One of the main Harry Potter actors just collapsed on the golf course…he looked like crap when they loaded him on the golf cart. I wonder what it could be?
That is Tom Felton. Your guess might be correct. Here he is (in May, i think) promoting the shot to Santa Clara county teens. Hard to believe he’d be doing this if he hadn’t been jabbed himself:
https://m.facebook.com/scccap/videos/143101101132533/?refsrc=deprecated&locale2=ne_NP&_rdr&_se_imp=0oGkL3UHzmQt6QYAm
a few of the warnings.
1949 – Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell.
1931 – Brave New World, Aldous Huxley. 1920 – We, Yevgeny Zamyatin. 1906 – The Iron Heel, Jack London
….that the Living Dead Ignored, buried under a happy Ignorance. And if ’twere all and iceberg, Convid would be nothing more than the cherry at it’s peak,
I would say that with Event Covid, there has simply been no debate at all relayed by the mainstream and any debate outside the mainstream was effectively blocked off by the initial lockdown which separated everyone from everyone else.
I can relate my own experience here. With lockdown, I could no longer work at my place of work. I was assigned to “working from home” – which is a total joke for one whose work is supposed to be interacting with disabled people. Then came re-allocation to residential work in which the very nature of the job meant working by yourself most of the time.
Throughout this whole periods, I kept imagining the conversations I could have with my workmates and how I could have perhaps sparked some intelligent querying amongst them. Indeed, some of them made noises of dissent themselves just before the lockdown. But this is where the brilliance of the separation came in. We were all split up and at the mercy of a TV which belched out only one version of events. Thus the TV “reprogrammed” everyone. And I saw the effects of this on my mum and mother in law – even my wife!
It was divide-and-conquer at its most brutally effective.
So then I heard that my old centre had gotten back to a (sort of) opening up and when I finally returned I found a place regimented like a fucking military barracks!
And make no mistake – this was indeed a military operation.
Thus it’s not a matter of eliminating rational public discourse but of eliminating all public discourse outside of one version of events!
Not just work but the after work watering hole was also closed. Even when cafes were open, when fast food dives dealing in the kind of food which we were told causes ill health, the good old pub was shut. And why would they close the place where, possibly after a couple of pints, someone would put his elbow on the bar and proclaim, “‘Ere, wotcha fink of this Covid bollocks, eh?”
The media is indeed a jealous deity. “You shall have no gods but me!”
This is a brilliant comment and observation. Isolate and reprogram, works best when your victims can’t adjust their perception of reality with other People. If people were free to mingle as before, they would have called it “bollocks” I’m sure
On the topic of the US national security state bringing dissident-elimination efforts (Phoenix Program in Vietnam, Operation Condor in South America) home to roost, this only goes to show that the true distinction is not drawn in terms of nationality or culture. The rulers are not bound to one place and have no loyalty at all to any tradition – not even that hallowed Western civilization that gets such a big trumpeting from the conservatives. They view their “fellow Americans” with the same contempt or, worse still, the same indifference, with which they view those yellow and brown folks abroad. And they would dismiss the riches of the past from Homer to Beethoven and beyond with the merest shrug. All they care about is themselves and the abysmal gap they must maintain towards the scum below.
Even for Edward Snowden’s disclosures, USAns were only appalled that their government spied on them too, besides the foreigners
Talking of fear…
…apparently we all need to grow up. Like wayward teenagers reaching 16 (the Age of Consent), dealing with climate change is a rite of passage.
https://news.sky.com/story/cop26-boris-johnson-urges-humankind-to-grow-up-and-come-of-age-at-glasgow-climate-change-summit-12414696
Kermit the frog was wrong to suggest it’s not easy being green (link). ‘We have the technology’, after all (shades of the ‘The Bionic Man’).
But there’s a problem. It’s not easy to ramp up fear of what the planet may be like a million years from now. Ask yourself honestly, are you worried about what the planet may be like in a million years after you are ‘long gone’? It doesn’t have that immediate sense of fear, like a deadly virus that lurks on banknotes, but not on Amazon parcels.
So perhaps an energy crisis would work better in ramping up that immediate sense of fear. The fear of rising energy bills. The fear of your energy company going bust. The fear of power cuts.
Yes, that might work…
The state of fear reduces us to our most primitive consciousness. The lizard brain. Where fight or flight are the only options. Most choose flight, to our hiding space, under our beds. If someone tries to drag us out, by explaining the truth, then the fight option begins. Hence the RAGE against the “truthers” and the “antivaxxers” and the unmasked. The truth? The powers that be are nearly all controlled by sociopaths or worse. They do not have the ordinary human virtues of compassion, charity, sympathy, remorse, guilt, etc. They can however understand them enough to use them for their own purposes, against those of us who do have them. Those in charge are quite literally insane. One can understand this and live accordingly, or deny it and spell their own doom, along with ours.
There are actually two other states induced by fear. Fight, flight, freeze, or fawn. Interesting chart to look at and think about those who you know personally, their personality types, and how they’ve reacted in the last 18+months.
Can you be all of these?
“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.”
– John Lennon
John Lennon: “The world is run by insane maniacs!”
*
Just as he was to become a trusted and beloved elder cultural statesman…a lone nut gunman coincidentally murdered him.
Christ it shits me when people talk about “illegal” US acts as if “International Law” actually means something.
Here’s some proof that fear can also be a good thing. It presents a problem with the infamous CRISPR technology which may have caused some investors to back off.
Yay!!!!!
https://www.globalresearch.ca/chromothripsis-bad-news-gene-editing/5756625
Problem solved! 🙁
Thanks I didn’t have this summarized as well as it is here.
We all know who the real children of God is it’s the ones that’s been persecuted for thousands of years used and abused.Look to who they persecute the most and cause disruption there lies your answer.
The majority of people, when faced with a choice of either believing in repetitive nonsense or having to admit they don’t know, will take repetitive nonsense every time. It’s smarter to have an answer, even if it’s completely false.
We’re like monkeys. We love familiarity. We love knowing the answer to anything. We love to say we read it, we saw it, we were there, we had the virus and let me tell you ‘it’s no joke man’.
Why else would we listen to the same songs over and over, get an adrenaline surge when we see a celebrity, attest to being at Woodstock by the tens of millions when only 500k were actually there, or say we had Covid, but “just glad we got the shot!”?
It’s too scary and lonely, pioneering new trails. Most people prefer a path that looks worn and safe.
And the biggest fear of all is feeling left out. It’s better to be on the majority side than to say you have no idea… so whatever Mika and ‘Conservative Joe’ say, well “I’m with them”.
If you believe the fable of 9/11 at this point, you don’t want your bedtime story interrupted.
Enjoy your hot pocket and MSNBC.
Well said, from beginning to end. Reminded me of ol’ Socrates. The wisest man in Athens simply because he could admit his ignorance on topics rather than pretend to know something he didn’t. I have a hunch that Socrates would think twice about eating Hot Pockets.
Poor old Socrates was forced to drink hemlock for thought crimes – corrupting the minds of the Athenian youth. So much for free and rational thought – the powers that be just hate that sort of stuff.
“When the poison reaches the heart, that will be the end.” He was beginning to grow
cold about the groin, when he uncovered his face (for he had covered himself up) and said, — they were his last words, — “Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius ; will you remember to pay like debt?” “The debt shall be paid,” said Crito; “is there anything else?” There was no answer to this question; but in a minute or two a movement was heard, and the attendant uncovered him; his eyes were set, and Crito closed his eyes and mouth.
Such was the end of our friend, whom I may truly call the
wisest, the justest, and best of all the men whom I have ever
known.” ~ Plato
“Every form of government tends to perish by excess of its
basic principle. Aristocracy ruins itself by limiting too nar-
rowly the circle within which power is confined; oligarchy
ruins itself by the incautious scramble for immediate wealth*
In either case the end is revolution. When revolution comes
it may seem to arise from little causes and petty whims; but
though it may spring from slight occasions it is the precipitate
result of grave and accumulated wrongs; when a body is
weakened by neglected ills, the merest exposure may bring
serious disease (556). “Then democracy comes: the poor
overcome their opponents, slaughtering some and banishing
the rest ; and give to the people an equal share of freedom and
power” (557).
But even democracy ruins itself by excess — of democracy.
Its basic principle is the equal right of all to hold office and
determine public policy. This is at first glance a delightful
arrangement; it becomes disastrous because the people are
not properly equipped by education to select the best rulers
and the wisest courses (688). “As to the people they have
no understanding, and only repeat what their rulers are
pleased to tell them” ( Protagoras , 317) ; to get a doctrine ac-
cepted or rejected it is only necessary to have it praised or
ridiculed in a popular play (a hit, no doubt, at Aristophanes,
whose comedies attacked almost every new idea). Mob-rule
is a rough sea for the ship of state to ride; every wind of
oratory stirs up the waters and deflects the course. The up-
shot of such a democracy is tyranny or autocracy ; the crowd
to loves flattery, it is so “hungry for honey,” that at last the
Wiliest and most unscrupulous flatterer, calling himself the
“protector of the people” rises to supreme power (565).
(Consider the history of Rome.) ~ THE STORY OF PHILOSOPHY BY WILL DURANT
Over my life I’ve witnessed our (Australian) democracy (of sorts) morph into an oligarchy and now into a totalitarian fascist police state. “A boot stamping on a human face forever” ~ and the saddest thing of all is watching my fellow Australians become cheerleaders for their own enslavement.
“It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ J. Krishnamurti
Socrates was a planned parenthood type of guy
Off topic (although… everything’s related).
Here is Dutch politician, Thierry Baudet with a speech about the new world order, the dangers of ‘the vaccine’ and the apartheid that is introduced by the QR code shit. It starts around 10.50, because before he could even start with his speech, he first had to answer all sorts of questions about ‘the Holocaust’. Anyway he makes his speech, after which another politician says that Baudet’s words are awful. So Baudet says: ‘which words were awful? Please quote me.’
Politician: cannot say, they are too awful to repeat. To which Baudet answers: it’s like I am in a Kafka novel. I am accused of something but the accusers do not say what I am accused of!
It’s all political, yet brilliant. Here is the speech (in Dutch..) https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=vn2pyEnRyF0&feature=emb_logo
I have to say, Baudet is pretty brave. 20 years ago we had a similar politician, Pim Fortuyn, very eloquent and who made all politicians of his day look like the fools that they were. For that he was demonized in the media in the political debate, everywhere, which didn’t stop Fortuyn becoming ever more popular. So he was killed in cold blood.
Here is the same Dutch politician: With Engliah subtitles!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9HV21YKXI&t=136s
Dutch Minister Thierry Baudet on the Rockefeller foundation’s plan! With English subtitles!
Wonderful. Thanks for the link.
Would that congressperson in the good ole USA would stand up and say the same.
Another good find! Thank you!
In the one Willem posted, his website is in the video description which leads to the transcript of the most recent speech which I copy/pasted into Deepl Translator (a pain as the free version has a 5000 character limit and so I worked/read by segments, but very much worth it).
Just stumbed across this…and there is a second part to the video on the same page.
It is profoundly moving. There is hope. Believe this will end, because it will.
https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1440653490733207569
Yes it is moving and i learned something too.
Me too Simon, me too
Brilliant speaker. Australia’s Indigenous people are fighting back. They know all about genocide.
https://www.carranya.org/
The americans (yes the americans) jailed J. Assange because he showed the world that Spreading-Democracy is a deceptive descriptor for butchering humans and countries the US doesn’t like.
Now, american army generals admitted PUBLICALLY to butchering innocent civilians by remote control.
Shouldn’t Assange be set free as what he uncovered is now officially recognised as indisputable fact?
“The fear and trauma generated by the events of 9/11 were used* by the US national security state and its civilian allies to …..”
We have learnt, the events and the generated fear were created (as well as used) by the security apparatus, haven’t we?
“Of course they’re laughing. They’ve got us scrutinizing the trees while they encircle the forest,” as James Corbett said in his latest video featured on Off-G three days ago.
I try not to sound like a grouch but I bang on about it: let’s move beyond articles that restate what we know.
All of us, whether we chat, post, comment, write newsletters, record our voices or edit video, we are all part of a flourishing online ecology.
Everyone in the new media needs to raise their game: better networking to ensure our survival; ever-better storytelling to whup the old media even harder.
Self-proclaimed ‘trusted voices’ — the state-corporatist media — are not planning to play nice. Online Safety Bills will hire them as plumbers, their hands on the spigots and sluice gates that restrict the flow of ideas.
Britain and Canada are planning to empower the corporate media as state censor — Australia already has.
The Internet is like the aqueducts that for thousands of years filled the public reservoirs and yet only ever supplemented the rivers and springs that fed the farms and fountains of our great civilizations. So long as the waters flow fast and freely life is healthy — vital. We must not let janitors or beadles presume to stop the flow.
Disregarding their rough edges or lack of polish, we should support as many sources as possible. It is the declared aim of the state-corporatist media to promote a small group of prominent, ‘trusted’ voices. Should we do the same? There is an objective reason why we must not.
River deep
By retelling a familiar story, we fail to move it forward. The more prominent the writer, the more guilty. There are a couple of academics and published authors who specialise in retelling stories about MK-Ultra, DARPA and the CIA. The headline causes you to react: “wow, she got the inside scoop,” until you realize we have known most of this since the 1970s.
Should Hollywood keep rebooting the same movies just because a new generation hasn’t seen them?
Objection! Recent events are history to the young.
Sustained! Not everyone has been alive as long. Yet it’s often people of limited knowledge who refuse to consider what they don’t already know. How do we help them and ourselves?
The answer is to add something new every time, so that even those familiar with a topic gain new perspective. It is not a question of revelation or scoop but simple hard work.
Mountain high
Scientists who study avalanches say it’s not about mass or flow. “A dense skeleton of red instability” spreads through the pile. The status quo holds until a grain falls on one of these points and suddenly causes other red spots to slide, as Alastair Crooke writes at Strategic Culture Foundation.
It is as if the red spots share the same vulnerability. They sense each other’s readiness.
What a metaphor for change!
Newsguard presents these red grains, this quizzical, curious, wonderful network as unreliable, unsound and a threat. Perhaps in an avalanche it represents instability.
But in a stultifying, absolute tyranny those same red grains constitute touchstones of sanity. That network or web fires the neurons to realign and reconstitute the moral, artistic and humanitarian vibrancy of shared life — among our own seven billion points of light.
In full at: https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/defend-our-networks
I saved the link to read more leisurely later.
Thank you.
V true MC. I thought it was just the current ‘lull’ that was causing these endless repetitions. Personally I scan the articles and only come here for comments and links to something more insightful
There is some value in repetition, but yes, better to progress the story, than being caught in a stuck record.
Canada’s 3 media corps have been that countries censors since the Mulroney era . Their is no Off Guardian like site in Canada However RT which supports the fake plague propaganda is available on cable or Internet and appears to be the limit of controversial subjects allowed.
RT was launched during the George W. Bush era when Dubya could ‘see’ into Putin’s soul – or at least into his Lada’s glovebox.
Ketchum, a deep state public relations consultancy, advised the Russian government to reach a broader global audience. There was already an English-language international TV service but staffed by Russians. RT broke the mold by hiring mostly English graduates fresh out of journalism school. They were soon joined by Irish and Australians — there is a cultural angle there which I need to explore.
A former Reuters bureau chief was the adviser. You can read about Reuters at the Grayzone.
After three years the Internet channel took off and the adoption was vertical. In retrospect, given what we know about Internet censorship one has to conclude that RT plays by the CIA-DARPA roolz or it wouldn’t be there.
One wrinkle is to get your timeline right. RT launched the same year as YouTube so it was very much a trailblazer.
We must focus and re-focus and yet again focus on the same two phenomena because they have brought the entire world to a standstill First 911 then COVID. Then silence.
A few barbs are flung at China or Russia or some other “bad” place. Then silence again.
These two events seem destined to become the last two events in human history.
“Who’s the last person you saw before they turned out the lights?” “I don’t know, he was wearing a mask.”
The world is wearing a mask. 911 and COVID are the last unmasked things anyone has seen.
The US is behaving as other states have before, and now.
Just drop this ‘exceptional’ crap…
Fear 101, starting to set in over oil, gas supplies, with some pointing the finger at Brexit.
What do they have planned for winter?
Here we go………..
What do they have planned for winter? I’ll have s stab; 5-10% of those jabbed may pass away giving rise to a “Covid-19 variant” (fill in whatever greek number you wish) that’ll be sold to us as deadly, deadly, deadly in the hope of getting those of us labelled anti-vaxxers to run into the warm embrace of the state. 5-10% will potentially be over a million.
As for this shit around the supply of home energy and the rest, a lot is down to fucking brexit, coupled with a Tory government who gave us this crap under David ‘pig fucker’ Cameron and George ‘I like the blood to be as young as possible’ Osborne; it’s not as if any of what’s happening wasn’t talked about before the fucking vote, or is it a bloody Lefty failure! A common argument by some on this site. Corbyn fuckin’ chaos the anti-semite as I remember. How’s that working for you all! Just checked my bills and are set to rise over 40% as I watch the price of food increase between 10 – 50% while the product size and weight shrink. Watch crime explode over the same period, what a lovely country we live in. For the British practicing muslims out there; ever think you live on the island of Dajjal?
People can bear hearing and knowing they’ve been lied to by their leaders. What they can’t bear, and what stops them dead in their tracks from approaching the truth, is the realization that they were a willing part of the lie.
People cannot and will not accept that in order to improve the material quality of their own lives they were more than willing to sacrifice millions of innocents around the world.
The peoples of the “First World” have so much blood on their hands that, like Lady Macbeth, it will never come clean.
Mea Culpas are merely ceremonial globs of shit.
The largest victims are the residents of the first world. they have been doing it to themselves more than anyone else.
50 million alone in ww2. 15 million in WW1. For what?
Well my guess we are about to match these numbers with whatever is rolling into the next 2/3 years….the planetary energy will deem it….I don’t intend to be included in those figures and suggest that is the major issue now for all who are aware
11 million plus people starve to death every year because of the psycho corporate global criminals of the first world.
The population will always rise to exceed the food supply , true when Malthus/Ricardo postulated it and true now. The numbers change but the game remains the same ?
There is no way the reason people are starving is because of peoples inability to grow, forage, or hunt food. Nature produces everything in abundance, including the growing of crops. Peoples land is stolen and they are purposely starved. Please see Nick M comment below, as regards to Malthus. You are either a shill or…
“It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they were fooled”. — Mark Twain
It seems like a long time ago she was the darling of the anti-war left…
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1440116953130143748
A CFR member turns out to be not anti-war after all and a pusher of the same homicidal insanity as before (providing the bombs are carbon-neutral and non-patriarchal). What a shock.
There’s a surprise
Gabbard is also one of Klaus Schwab’s WEF Young Global Leaders.
By Gabbard, do you mean Tulsi?
I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her, she is not her own master, she belongs to WaiLana, Jagad Guru and the rest of the cult, poor little toenail water drinker…
I thought it funny that 3 out of 4 female VP picks laid before Biden (and his handlers, natch) had serious ties to cults. One was a
scientologist, one NOI, and then there was little Tulsi in her Hare Krishna spin-off cult. Kamala, as far as I can tell is not a cultie, but a star-fucker.
The Melbourne police assault of the 70 y.o. “woman” in red was clearly a staged operation. Given that it seemed to deflect from the other psyop (busting the line), I have no idea why they did it.
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By Marty Focker
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/p27luEAnW1kW
Victorian Government & Police Staged False-Flag Event At Melbourne Protest (18th Sept 2021)
XANDREWX: Published at 13:26 UTC on Sep 19, 2021.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1qhh0lVtk2hx
1. it scares the hell out of normal people thinking about protesting.
2) it creates anger in the viewing population which can then be used as a heightened mechanism to inject narratives. (mainly this)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32900296/
https://www.finrafoundation.org/sites/finrafoundation/files/heightened-emotional-states-fraud-susceptibility.pdf
Heightened emotional manipulation is one the keys to inducing a change state to permanent alteration in viewpoints. They have been doing this crap for ever and are very good at it.
For everything on any media one thought must be used as an initial filter to alleviate button pushing:
“Why this? Why now?”
No matter how aligned with ones own views the initial information appears to be.
I agree with everything you say. However, they’ve had no problem terrorising ordinary, real people, so I don’t see the need for a staged psyop.
I agree in some part.
Staged stuff reduces the downstream consequences and complications somewhat. There is more control of the distribution, more importantly the timing of the exact effect you want to push and it has less chance of spinning out into something else. Timing is also very important as a feedback to the opinion management and you are controlling the landscape directly, rather than relying on happenstance.
Really beating a 70 year old woman can lead to death quite easily (unlikely with younger men). Using fake photographers and getting some cop to really beat an old women just to capture on film is awkward to arrange on cue (but not impossible).
Take the Ashley Babet staged shooting or numerous other obvious fake events. No deaths, no victim families. Quick film shoot then pack up and move on to the next thing. One could have incited the crowd and hoped something would kick off, but you have people and a script of the aftermath ready to go, which you do not want to alter.
I also think its also that they are in some ways so addicted to doing this as a gaming exercise and have so many assets developed, that its an automatic rollout of those personnel to any situation.
I am sure there are other reasons which would seem odd to us, but make sense internally.
the stage was set if not before certainly at babylon
the actor supreme communicator
before the word the image
symbols
the power is in the image loop edited sequence continues loop
news feed tavistock trauma
some things are real reality must be deceived by satanist
so they shape the terrain
fear terror shock hive system
and the harvesting of
“However, they’ve had no problem terrorising ordinary, real people, so I don’t see the need for a staged psyop.”
Good point I would say.
Also it’s easier to demonize a protest movement and stop it becoming a broadly accepted or supported cause if it’s all young men.
The most successful protests of the late 19th/early 20th century protested as entire communities. Men, women and children.
The men would often go armed.
i read somewhere the lady in red was 90
my guess 40 year un gladio dude
everything is image is image loop
everything is image loop
image loop
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Don’t have links but London police did the exact same thing at the Trafalgar Square protest last October, elderly looking woman in a green coat. Analysis of video footage afterwards clearly showed it was staged, conclusion was the same, they were trying to deter the more timid among us through faked police violence.
Also, if they can get people in the crowd to react and start on the police thinking they are in fact preventing further violence towards helpless elderly women, the police have achieved the exact excuse they were after all along to go in full throttle and whack a few heads. I saw them try this approach multiple times earlier on last year, but nobody was biting, so my thinking was they were trying to provoke the protesters through their specialty; the sneaky underhanded dishonest approach to ‘law enforcement’.
Good point! I’m wondering about the new tatctic of German riot police. They will let the crowd pass and then all of a sudden pounce on someone who has clearly done nothing to incite this outburst of brutality. So I thought he or she might have been ‘in on it’, displaying a sign (bycicle, slogan on T-shirt, placard) for identification, get whacked, pocket some money and will not take the cops to court. Horrify the bystanders, seeding alternative media with the message: stay away from rallies.
By the way I suspect that these evidently brutal cops aren’t even cops. After all the risk of being filmed and identified, lawsuits following, bad effects on career etc. would easily be circumvened if these were actually private contractors in police uniforms. I noticed a video where some of them were dragging away a guy they had set upon and one of them was trying to shout down and scare away a guy with a camera, desperately hiding his name shield. (I recently asked a couple of cops at a political rally about their name shields. Some wore them, others not. And learned that it was up to them personally if they put them on or not. Strange.)
Yeah they are trying to incite violence and riot. They want chaos.
Wonder if it was the same “elderly woman” actor they used in Melbourne recently? Did you notice in the photo that his/her wig fell off? And how come the MSM and alernate media knew she was exactly 70? Was she interviewed?
In Amsterdam at a demo there was also a vid of a van pulling up, a bunch of 8 or so plain clothes getting out of the back, arresting someone, throwing them in the back of the van and then driving off very quickly. That also struck me as a bit odd as I just couldn’t figure out what it was about. There were also other reports of agitators being in the crowd, trying to provoke people. If you’re not aware of these tactics, you might easily mistake these incidents as being real.
“False-Flag Event”?
What, protesters disguised as cops beat her up?
No, a cop disguised as a protester got “beat up” by other cops.
Which, if true, still wouldn’t make it a “False-Flag Event”.
It was granny whose identity was false and in league with the cops. That is a false flag event. Is the scenario difficult to grasp or is it something else?
Strange indeed. Something I noticed in the second vid in your post(by XANDREWX) at 9:34, there’s a peculiar scene as a bloke (left of picture)with shades, wearing a navy blue shirt who walks off and says ‘Ow!ow! … my eyes’ then as he passes the camera, puts his shades down and says ‘Can’t see…’ and appears to be smiling as he does so.
Is it me or does it not seem a bit odd?
Another takeaway:
The transexual agenda is a game the State plays.
When you see the guy’s shoulders it’s clear it’s not a 70 year-old woman. It is a policeman or actor dressed as a transvestite.
So boys-who-are-girls-who-are-boys, to paraphrase Blur, is not simply an individual condition/choice but a State strategy. Just as gender dysphoria is a policy in schools.
I’m not wrong. If it was just a matter of personal discovery the state would not be involved. A person’s identity has nothing to do with the government.
Mein Gott if you had asked Quentin Crisp if he wanted or needed official sanction to be who he was you would have got a cuff
Division is not enough. The State wants to disorient the population.
Having said that, the police are using a tactic of publicly attacking women and minorities to rile the public.
Bitchute doesn’t work with Firefox on Android. Weird.
I am able to open these links using FF on Android using a private tab. Still weird.
Even two decades after the fact, it is still deemed too controversial or unthinkable to question whether the official story is an accurate portrayal of the events that transpired on and led to that day.
Absolutely not. It is fine to talk about the events. There is no “official” narrative. There is what happened and there is what did not happen.
As I said the other day. There is too much corruption and dishonesty in public life in the United States. The state machine is inherently paranoid. It fears it’s citizens. It is this paranoia that feeds the “War on Terror”.
The Hollywood machine churns out rubbish year on year. Many Americans can no longer distinguish fact from fantasy.
The media lies constantly to the people of America. Feeding them nonsense it is little wonder that a significant minority believe nothing that they say at all.
It is the fault of the American state itself that this so-called truth movement has taken off as it has. As it is, devoid of reason, sense and reality.
“9/11 truth” is just insane. I’m sorry. It’s just insane. I will not entertain it.
Well John, your frothing irrationality about it certainly entertains us. Those of us naughty creatures who enjoy a spot of schadenfreude, anyway.
Began to read then noticed name, and added my own automatic downmark to 8 previous downmarks.
I believe it’s far worse than that. Many – if not most – Americans can no longer fathom why it matters if something is fact or fantasy.
That statement would, of course, encompass Chomsky’s remarks about 9/11.
Same old same old John Pretty Vacant, eh? I’ve responded to you so many times and got very little back. But then again you have already admitted that you don’t read responses to your posts. So I doubt if you’re reading this here. Oh well. I suggest that OffG add a little prelude to each of your posts:
Not to be rude but it would appear many on-line Americans will never register that day as past history.
In fact the vast majority of the internet is used in retrospect with intermittent ‘News Flash!’
I’ve just read elsewhere Denmark has removed all restriction, no masks back to normal, if normal will have the same meaning anymore who knows.
Over last twenty years some on-line ‘Nine- Revellers’ pop in and sit down at every important current event table, during a discussion.
Old days they’d be called a bore.
As a historian and anthropologist, I have to say “neofeudalism” to describe what we’re heading too is very harsh on the early Middle Age’s aristocracy! It would be more appropriate to describe the system the PTB are implementing as “neoslavery”.
The Black Death and subsequent scarcity of labour and its consequences should be a warning to the Feudal Lords presumptive from what I read.
https://clas.ucdenver.edu/nhdc/sites/default/files/attached-files/entry_147.pdf.
I suspect they plan to use robots and trance-humans to do the dirty and boring chores, and just enough obedient tradie/domestics to look after the small number of e-lights and their needs.
Yes, indeed. Ye olde nobs had noblesse oblige and honi soit qui mal y pense.
Today’s self styled Elite (fr.Elus, the Chosen) are chosen from the bottom drawer.
So who does the choosing?
“In addition, the official story relies heavily on testimony obtained through extreme torture, meaning it is of questionable accuracy.”
No. It means that that (alleged) testimony is utterly worthless.
By the spooks’ own admission, they waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times.
He probably confessed to the murder of Abe Lincoln. Who wouldn’t?
Twenty years on, that “9/11 Mastermind” (sic) is — so the CIA tells us — still in a dungeon in Guantanamo. No one but the Langley boys has ever been allowed to see him or speak to him. Does he actually exist? Is he still alive?
Why should anyone believe a word his torturers tell us? Why, exactly?
The article includes the phrase “extreme torture”, as if there is any other type. It reminds me of “illegal wars”.
“They hate our freedoms” looks like another case of projection where the deep state takes its views/actions and projects them on to today’s enemy.
This isn’t Whitney Webb’s best piece and, as has already been noticed, isn’t really directed at the likely readeship here. This is what compatible leftists are more likely to be reading:
https://dumptheguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/22/leftwingers-far-right-conspiracy-theories-anti-vaxxers-power
Webb’s piece paralleling 9/11 and Covid through a bio-terror follow-up abandoned with the tracing of the origins of the first batch of anthrax is much better. Here she still seems stuck in a mindset that the soft-left media is ‘free’ and could write/publish “9/11 was an inside job” articles if only they’d recognise the truth. They are never going to write these things and certainly never going to publish them – they exist not to.
That Monbiot article is the worst I’ve ever read by him, and God knows that’s saying something. Of course Groaniad readers will lap it up.
He certainly earns his keep.
That was definitely a junk article. The narrative he attempts to build is quite incoherent.
The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent” – J Edgar Hoover
Well Americans have been destroying all that is good and decent since Hoover’s time in the spot so they ought to have come face-to-face with it by now.
From the comments in yesterday’s wsws article entitled “Australian anti-vaccine, extreme right demonstrators target construction industry”:
“Australia will be a second Florida with lots of these anti-vaxxers dying from Covid-19. The Delta variant has already proved to be quite insidious when it comes to anti-vaxxers.”
Thank god wsws is on our side!
The extreme left is the extreme right and vice versa. Even Julian Assange said that 911 investigation is not a big deal and people don’t see that he’s a fucking tool too? https://youtu.be/zG23AyiIObk (and he said similar in 06? on democracy now…)
If we keep on believing in heroes, we are idiots.
The only reality is the one in front of your eyes.
Fuck the gatekeepers
I saw a snippet of RFK Jr talking the talk on some daytime chatbox, maybe ‘the talk’ IDK, but at pertinent points he kept sliding one hand under the upper arm, i.e. hidden hand.
Any questioning of the vaccine efficacy/safety, the PCR test, “alternative” therapies gets one piled on by other commenters.on wsws.org. I have been labelled a “Trump supporter” for doing so in the past. Any questioning of these matters undermines their perspective and gets shut down by gatekeeping Disquis commenters. As a result the comments are mostly monolithic and predictable. I have noticed that several astute commenters who used to contribute over there have migrated here, myself included.
I too migrated long ago. The WSW has been the most disgusting betrayer of all they supposedly stood for.
But then in retrospect the typical WSW article would follow this pattern: the main article might be interesting and even very penetrating (obviously this refers to their pre-covid output). But towards the end of the article we would get the inevitable call for a unification of the masses (quite ironic considering the WSW’s frequent attacks on factions over pedantic disputes over the minutiae of that old “proper materialist interpretation”). And this would seem to act as a cue for the monotony of the comments consisting mostly of boilerplate delivery of the ossified old Marxist clichés. It was hard to avoid the impression that most of these comments were written by the same folks who wrote the main articles.
Huh? I thought FL was doing OK. Like Sweden. Wat up?
Florida, like all states in the US, around July was hit by a “wave” of so-called cases. The state has turned the corner on these positive PCR marks, sooner than others I believe. Of course, none of that matters when you have a narrative to promote.
I saw that comment and put my own in:
I’m not even going to go back and check if they post me. I know that’s kind of pathetic – like ringing a doorbell and running away. But I feel too much contempt for the original comment to let it go. And I know they won’t publish me anyway. Or maybe darling Carlyn Zaremba will shoot me down? I honestly don’t care.
Oh and it’s hard to miss that repulsive gloating sense of vengefulness displayed here toward covid sceptics and how it mirrors that “Christian” vengefulness that salivates over the idea of unbelievers rotting in hell forever.
But look on the bright side: The WSW article you refer to was written two days ago and so far carries only three comments (assuming they publish mine – of which see my other comment here.) This present OffG article was posted today and already carries 60 comments! I assume that the WSW is receiving bugger all for commentary – or, more likely, the comments they ARE receiving are not to their liking!
Seems a strange audience for this article to be presented to. Most people who regularly contribute BTL here knew years ago that the official 9/11 story was claptrap. There’s been plenty of seasons of evidence presented which points precisely to that.
This sort of article needs to be put in the MSM, because the people who still believe the official narrative mostly get their information there.
Good idea. I’ve forwarded it to murdoch so it should appear later today.
Good one!
OG should add an LOL button.