A UK court has ordered that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange can be extradited to the United States.
The decision overturns an earlier ruling, from January this year, that found Assange could not be extradited due to the impact confined US prison conditions could have on his mental health.
Assurances from the US that Assange would not be held in confined conditions, unless he committed a further crime, were accepted by the high court as the basis for overturning the original verdict.
If extradited, Assange faces charges of conspiracy and computer hacking (you can read the full indictment here).
Assange has been in Belmarsh prison since 2019, and detained in one manner or another since 2010 when he sought political asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
Nils Melzer, the UN special rapporteur on torture, has publicly called Assange’s treatment at the hands of the British government “inhumane” and repeatedly demanded his immediate release.
Opinion is divided, in the alternate media world, on whether or not WikiLeaks was truly organic in its origins, and some allege ties to the US Deep State. But whether or not you trust Assange and his organisation the story, as it is presented to us, should be cause for alarm.
Julian Assange is a journalist, who is accused of nothing but doing journalism. That this could ever be considered a crime is very dangerous ground.
This case could set a very damaging precedent, one that seeks to pre-emptively bully journalists and publishers into silence. It could even be seen to be just as much about intimidating future journalists as punishing current ones.
However, at least it gives the “Lockdown Left” something to talk about again whilst they pretend to continued relevance.
One wonders how they will justify protesting the long-term inhumane othering & incarceration of one man, while approving the same treatment for millions of the ‘unvaxxed’ all over the world.
In fact, the US and UK governments have missed a trick here. If they’d simply called Assange a public health risk, rather than a Russian spy or whatever nonsense he’s accused of being, then the lockdown left wouldn’t only have applauded the removal of his human rights, they’d have demanded it be stricter and suggested he be subject to medical experiments too.
But what do you guys think?
- Will Assange be extradited?
- If so, will he face trial
- How will this impact future whistleblowers or independent journalists
- Will pro-lockdown, pro-Assange campaigners realise their hypocrisy?
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Your comparison of this man’s “crimes” and the public dangers posed by the unvaxinated is bogus. I think you can do better.
What IS the ‘danger’ posed by the unvaxxed?
That’s not for me to answer you. This is not an article about vaccines. My objection is to the comparison. You’ve heard the phrase “apples to oranges”. I’m sure.
“Opinion is divided, in the alternate media world, on whether or not WikiLeaks was truly organic in its origins, and some allege ties to the US Deep State. But whether or not you trust Assange and his organisation the story, as it is presented to us, should be cause for alarm.
Julian Assange is a journalist, who is accused of nothing but doing journalism. That this could ever be considered a crime is very dangerous ground.
This case could set a very damaging precedent, one that seeks to pre-emptively bully journalists and publishers into silence. It could even be seen to be just as much about intimidating future journalists as punishing current ones.”
It is so very common as to be commonplace that intel agents throughout the world use “journalism” as a cover for other things, such as spying, sabotage, and all kinds of subterfuge. I worked briefly for Newsweek in the mid-70s and knew even then that most of them were spies in some capacity.
There are aspects of the Assange storyline that would be useless to speculate (although I have in more excitable moments) but one thing is clear. Assange, like Snowden, and pretty much that whole entourage, are spies.
So to say he is journalist, as such, ignores his formation as a spy, which is, or should be, fairly common knowledge. The eventuality that could damage the institution of journalism and its civil liberties, worldwide, just as Gavin Newsom is damaging public health currently as a public health dictator, is hardly endorsement of him and/or his rights as a “journalist”.
I’m a j”ournalist”, but it’s interesting that opednews came to me 15 years ago and asked to publish some of my thoughts that I’d posted at think tanks on electronic voting reform and hazards, and since they come up first on searches for “liberal news” (they re-post Bernie Sanders, Ed Snowden inter alia) I thought it would be OK.
After some time over the 10 years posting with them I encountered all kinds of instances of informational “micro-management” there across the board that did not always favor a clean bill of health for them as an unbiased or disinterested publisher of “opinion editorials”. It’s a subtle thing, but troublesome over time.
I posted as a comment some thoughts about the methods of James Angleton and someone jumped online within minutes, and a member for only minutes prior. Almost all the commenters there are members of long-standing. I called him out on that, he had the lamest of answers, but I found that my editor of long-standing answered my next note by ending it with the telling phrase, “Keep in touch.” The thermometer on our warm relationship dipped strikingly into chilliness after that. It’s hard not to connect the two.
The same as with my hilarious (if painful) experience of reading “Dark Money” by Jane Mayer 5 years ago and shuddering in horror about her revelations of the “weaponized philanthropy” of the Koch Bros. (Charles and David) in the past 4 decades. Of particular irritation was the “arts funding” (grabbing) by Charles’ wife, Liz Koch. It reminds me of the infamous maxim from the Vietnam War, “We had to destroy the village to save it.”
When I last sang with them, there were 700 classical music stations in This Great Land that carried the Orchestra broadcasts. Last I checked, maybe a year ago: in just TWENTY YEARS that fairly robust number had shrunk to the brink of double digits, which may now be the integer, the day is young. The station that is their flagship locally had re-organized as a trust to protect its airwaves from seizure by; the Clear Channels and sundry Murdochs.
I recalled that the Cleveland Orchestra Chorus had never had endorsements or “funders” since their founding by Robert Shaw, under George Szell, in 1952, and I took a bittersweet solace in that fact, despite the reality that the chorus is merely kept in submission to the organization, and has long languished in its inability to form an independent union,due to the partial schedule.
So it has always been awkward for Musical Arts Association, the billionaire boys club that oversees its bottomline corporation, to publicize any “donors” officially, It causes problems all around, and would probably give them a black eye in the arts world.
Ah, but then I looked at the home page for the TCO Chorus, in Cleveland, a few years ago, thinking, “Well, at least the Kochs won’t get their hands on it directly.”
I was edified, in reverse, to see a lone name on the home page, in the past always unadorned, “Website hosted by the generosity of Elizabeth R. Koch”. Or words to that effect.
Apparently they fielded complaints, mine included, since the name was removed some weeks or months later. I haven’t checked recently. Perhaps Liz has re-branded with her mark since then. Nothing surprises me.
Weaponized artists, psychiatrists, healers, stage magicians. The list is now endless.
It is all the cynical tactics of those who want total control. Nothing new, other than the complete technocratized abandonment with which they are now waged.
So, I don’t know Mr. Assange, but as I’ve posted before here over the last few years, with such journalism as his past and prologue, or Ed Snowden’s, lofty in prose style, and that of his cohorts at the Intercept, funded by Pierre Omidyar of eBay, ally of many dictatorships,
It’s all rather “conflationary”, at least.
“As far as I can see, philanthropy is rapidly becoming the recognizable mark of the wicked man.” GKC
Gavin Newsom has just minutes ago issued an edict in California to return to indoor masks by mandate (diktat). For a month. The original closedowns in March of 20 only were forecast for 3 weeks. So, not a good sign at all.
I almost forgot, “Weaponized Public Health Officials” sent to “protect us”.
I think I’ve posted this before, but it bears repeating, Elon Musk’s net worth went from $20 Billion and change to 210 Billion,in the last 8 months of the “Annus Horribilis” of 2020
I was John Shipton’s neighbour for about 13 years until 2016 and my household was very good friends with him. It is only since we’ve stopped being neighbours that I’ve learnt a couple of things that I think might help Julian’s case which I’ve tried to tell John (and other Assange supporters) but neither he nor they are very open to them – I think cognitive dissonance may play a role in this resistance.
These are clear facts:
Chelsea Manning is an agent (as are Adrian Llamo and Ethan McCord) who used the faked Collateral Murder video to infiltrate Wikileaks.
The first thing to consider if your reaction is not to believe this claim is well, of course, that kind of thing will happen, won’t it? Of course, they’re going to attempt to infiltrate and they need to use something convincing to do that because they will absolutely ensure they succeed in infiltration – absolutely no doubt about it. So why wouldn’t they fake an incriminating document such as Collateral Murder? They’re not going to fake a document that has little incriminating power because guess what? That wouldn’t work. It must be incriminating.
And the thing is what resulted from this oh-so-incriminating document?
A big fat zero.
But here’s the thing … they actually make it really obvious. That’s the thing about it. There are 13 call signs in the Collateral Murder transcript which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever when there are only two Apache helicopters which are not even in communication with Ethan McCord’s ground crew … a significant anomaly of itself.
For more detailed analysis:
Stella Moris has me very intrigued. Surely, her name change can only mean she’s an agent (formerly Sara Gonzalez) – they always let us know. Anyone, please tell me, for what possible reason did Sara Gonzalez change her name to Stella Moris with one “r”?
As a friend pointed out Stella Moris is one letter different from Stella Maris, Star of the Sea. When you look up the occult meaning, it represents La Sirène:
“In addition to wealth, La Sirène brings love, romance, and success, but she does possess the capacity for violence and is not a spirit to be trifled with. Like her namesakes, the Sirens, La Sirène has associations with death. She lures those who offend her (like those who fail to pay their debts to her!) and drags them to a watery death. Like Fairies, La Sirène has a bit of a reputation as a baby snatcher, taking them to live with her in her undersea palace—an ominous image as in Vodou cosmology the realm of death is beneath the sea. La Sirène may rule a children’s realm of death.”
We can see that some of the photos at least of Stella Moris and Julian together are photoshopped. And yet the older child of the two they allegedly have together very much resembles Julian. It’s a mystery. Has she fallen in love with Julian like the German agent in the film Allied? It’s all a mystery.
In this photo you can see Julian’s right shoulder doesn’t sit correctly.
In this photo, his left shoulder is too high.
I think it’s beyond fascinating the way infiltrators end up having serious relationships and even children with the people they infiltrate.
I’m glad you recognise that there are elements to the Assange narrative that are fishy. Why do you discount the possibility that the collateral damage videos weren’t infiltration, but that Assange is an agent too?
As far as I can tell, agents almost always deliberately give themselves away one way or another – it’s part of the “hidden-in-plain-sight” MO – and I don’t think Julian does that. When he speaks about the Collateral Murder video he seems genuinely taken in … just like most people including myself until a few years ago. Also, I do believe he’s genuinely locked up – whether he’s locked up exactly as reported is another matter but even if he’s not locked up all the time as is stated I think he’s locked up most of the time and I think he shows signs of suffering.
Examples of agents giving themselves away:
— I totally believed in the guy running the Stand in the Park group in Sydney and then I watched a video he made where he said he’d been in Afghanistan standing on the side of the road wearing “steel-capped thongs” when an Italian armoured vehicle carrier had driven by with a 14-year-old soldier popping his head out of the turret covered in a balaclava and goggles. I said to him “Huh? Steel-capped thongs? How could you tell the age of the soldier blah blah?” He got a bit angry and said that the steel-capped thongs was a joke – what joke? Then he asked if I thought he worked for ASIO after which he walked off. Well, it wasn’t me who said it, was it?
— Totally believed Vince Emanuele, alleged Veteran for Peace, who came and spoke in Marrickville, Sydney in 2013. Hung on the guy’s every word. When I suspected the Collateral Murder video was faked I thought I’d consult an expert so I messaged Vince to get his opinion … when I didn’t get an answer I thought I’d look up the talk (which had been filmed) that I’d fallen for hook, line and sinker and I could see there were things that didn’t add up. I messaged Vince again and we had a rather revealing exchange after which he blocked me. Interestingly, a friend told me she’d noticed on FB he was pushing the virus crap. If you want to read more:
And, of course, we can see that Chelsea is given away with a number of clues.
Wow. With such prestigious sources to support your story, I have no recourse except to acquiesce. I guess I was wrong.
I mean, what sources could be more reliable than OCCAM’S RAZOR ON TERROR EVENTS, OCCULT WORLD, and THE GUARDIAN?
Oh dear, Dosamuno, you still judge by source as they taught us to do in school? I find I cannot rely on any source, not a single one. I find one is obliged to assess information from various sources and judge as best one can. There is absolutely no reliable source as far as I’m concerned.
And please enlighten me, Dosamuno, perhaps I’m far too mistrustful in not trusting any source whatsoever. What sources do you trust? I’d love to be able to read or listen to someone I completely trust. Sure, there are individuals I tend to trust but even there I can’t be sure that even if they’re completely honest and genuine people that they haven’t been misled themselves … I can certainly name a few of those people. With regard to any “group” outfit … well, forget it completely.
So please enlighten me with regard to what you consider a trustworthy source. I’d absolutely love to know of one.
BTW, Occam’s Razor on Terror Events is my website. Of course, I could easily be misled or an agent myself, couldn’t I?
Maris Stella brings up a interesting search…
I’m afraid I didn’t find anything of note with that search. What did you find and what search tool did you use, excommunicated?
Cue the CIA trolls trying to sow seeds of doubt by slandering Assange: the people persuing Assange plus their OG trolls are truely contemptible.
Contemptible people who believe in fairy tales about superheroes who publish “truth” in liars’ newspapers. there is no rescue for you
The parlous state of the British justice system is of deep concern but the Australian Government has been gutless and totally devoid of integrity in regard to Assange. They are mere toadying lackeys of the US and unfortunately the UK, once a bastion of law, appears to be little different.
Who’d have thought so many had a “Get Assange !” fixation. Is monomania infectious ?
IT IS NOT ABOUT JULIAN.
Recognizing the tactics of trolls:
1. Whataboutism gives a clue to its meaning in its name. It is not merely the changing of a subject (“What about the economy?”) to deflect away from an earlier subject as a political strategy; it’s essentially a reversal of accusation, arguing that an opponent is guilty of an offense just as egregious or worse than what the original party was accused of doing, however unconnected the offenses may be.
2. Ad hominem argument is an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
3. Sealioning is a harassment tactic by which a participant in a debate or online discussion pesters the other participant with disingenuous questions under the guise of sincerity, hoping to erode the patience or goodwill of the target to the point where they appear unreasonable. Often, sealioning involved asking for evidence for even basic claims. The term comes from a web comic depicting a sea lion engaging in such behavior.
4. The straw man fallacy is an argument that disturbs and twists the opposition’s stance to make it convenient to rebut. The person committing the straw man fallacy gives the impression of having dealt with an argument while actually not addressing its core aspects.
5. Sockpuppetry is the establishment of false identities by trolls to support their own postings.
So often, both ‘sides’ to a heated debate are correct, and the public narrative is cleverly crafted to have them at each other’s throats anyway.
What if Wikileaks was a creation of the deep state, and Assange an agent, and in time he grew a conscience, went rogue, and became a journalist? I don’t know this to be true, but the evidence I’m aware of points in that direction. That certainly explains why they want to kill him, as death is the sentence for those on the inside who turn against their masters.
The part of the public debate that makes the least sense to me is why those who claim to support protecting Assange as a journalist seem to want to avoid a trial in the US at all cost. It seems to me that the party that least wants a trial is the US government. As badly as the US has deteriorated, I still don’t believe that a US jury would convict him, assuming he has a competent legal team. I think the feds have no intention of letting the case into a US courtroom, and this endless extradition game is intentional and to that end.
So I predict that there will be no trial.
And no, leftists (collectivists) never admit their hypocrisy, because if they did they’d no longer be leftist.
Care to share that evidence?
I find it difficult to make a judgment one way or the other about Assange. Maybe he is a hero but it has to be understood that in the event he were a fraud the public would have no means of finding out. The fact the mainstream media are so completely opposed to him doesn’t necessarily mean Assange is on the side of right either – perhaps it is all an officially orchestrated warning to anyone thinking of using the internet against the elites. I simply don’t know and probably no one here does.
What evidence do you have that he may be a fraud? Or are you just slandering him?
How come the anonymous author conflates ‘pro-lockdown with ‘pro-Assange’ campaigners, I struggle to understand.
it pushes the left right narrative as right is better than left
author was kit
that her style.
previous article sells the Q version of U.k.ply-tricks as a secret cabal within the Conservative party are fighting for our freedoms.
I pissed my self laughing writing this
Notice how her style has changed since the 1 week holiday debrief.
“I don’t feel so innocent that I can curse those who didn’t know how to be strong.”
—Arthur Miller, after refusing to testify before HUAC
Several of the more vocal trolls criticizing Julian Assange have pointed to Wikileaks’ silence on the COVID mandates and lies. May I remind people there are consequences for resisting mandates and criticizing the official story.
I have refused vaccination, spoken and written about the lies about the virus and the vaccine to anyone who will listen. But I’m retired, have a house, some savings, a pension, and social security. Many of my younger friends and relatives do not have the same advantages. They’ve been obliged to submit to the vaccinations because they cannot afford to lose their jobs.
I’m grateful for the vocal opposition to the official COVID story by
OFF-GUARDIAN and DISSIDENT VOICE, among others; however, many other journalists and publishers cannot speak out for fear of being fired or de-platformed.
Like Arthur Miller, I’m reluctant to criticize others who either don’t know how to be strong or cannot “be strong” because they have families to support.
Julian Assange, John Pilger, Kit Knightly, Abby Martin, Aaron Maté, Max Blumenthal, and other journalists I follow and admire, do not agree with me on all matters political, religious, philosophical, and even scientific, goddamn them. Nor do they write regularly about matters I consider important like 911, The Kennedy Assassination, or the lies in the epistles of Paul of Tarsus, the Gospel of Mark, Genesis, and The Quran.
Nevertheless, they, along with Julian, are among the best and bravest: I’m glad we have them. The people that are destroying Julian are my enemies and anyone defending these monsters are also my enemies.
Nobody is defending the UK/US establishments. We have just come to the conclusion that the JA story is a narrative they are running. The question is why.
“… the JA story is a narrative they are running.”
This is bullshit.
What the fuck? What narrative? Go on and enlighten us. They want the man dead for doing journalism. Sometimes mate a fact is just a fact.
Assange’s famous balcony speech at the Ecuadorian Embassy in August 2010 was a staged event for the media. The police escorted him to the Embassy so that he could make it. He hadn’t been holed up in there since the June of that year as the narrative claims. Why the lie about that? I have no idea, but it is a staged narrative (if only in part).
No. The question is why trolls are working overtime to discredit a journalist who had the temerity to criticize the murderous actions of the American Empire and the corruption of its political parties, who has been viciously persecuted for over ten years, and whose voice is perilously close to being extinguished forever.
The question is why are creatures like you are slandering a journalist who had the temerity to criticize the murderous actions of the mercenaries of the American Empire and the Empire’s corrupt political parties.
Where’s the slander? Has Assange claimed that he was in the Embassy from June 2010 to August 2010 without seeing the outside world?
Count me out of your “We”.
On what basis did you come to that decision? You are pretending to know more than the rest of us do, so come on, show us that evidence: what have we overlooked?
I would be very interested to know the “lies in the Qur’an”. Kindly list them for me.
He won’t tell you anything, he only knows superhero fairy tales and stupid excuses
He sounds like one of those people with limited knowledge but plenty of self-conceit who try to create an impression of being highly erudite. There was no need for this Islamophobe to attack Islam within the context of a discussion about the fate of JA. Below is my standard response to senseless attacks by such people:
Translations of the Quran
The way Classical Arabic of the 7th century (as used by the Quraysh tribe of Makkah) has been employed in the Quran is unique. As the values and principles described in the Quran embrace all aspects of human existence – physical, intellectual, moral, spiritual – the Quran uses sublime, semi-poetical language to transcend the limitation of words, in places introducing its own semantics.
Too many translators of the Quran fail to grasp the idioms and expressions used in 7th century Makkah and produce literal translations which make little sense, the original meaning and beauty of the Quran lost in the translation. Apart from outright distortion this allows emphases and nuances to creep into the translation which were not in the original. It is said that the Quran is untranslatable: the best you can do is to present an interpretation with as much honesty as you can muster.
Then there are the dishonest translations where Islam-hating “orientalists” deliberately set out to misrepresent the Message of the Quran. A translation widely used by Islamophobes is by N.J. Dawood, published by Penguin. In their book “Distorted Imagination”, Ziauddin Sardar and Merryl Wyn Davies describe N.J. Dawood’s translation as “one of the most inaccurate, misleading and distorted versions on the market (and the preferred choice of Salman Rushdie)”.
Authentic renditions of the Quran
The Quran severely rebukes the priest class. Having read translations of the Quran by various so-called doctors of religion, I can see why. An authentic interpretation of the Quran will be free of contradictions and it will appeal to one’s common sense and sense of justice. I have found the following three renditions, by men with wide experience of life, of immense help in acquiring an understanding of the Quran:
1. The Message of the Quran by Muhammad Asad
2. The Quran As It Explains Itself by Dr Shabbir Ahmed
It can be read or downloaded from the free library, here
3. Mafhoom-ul-Quran by G A Parwaiz (in Urdu)
(an English translation, “Exposition of the Holy Quran” is also available)
The pedophile prophet and his fictitious Quran are foundation myths from the Bronze Age—like the Bible, Moses, and Jesus.
As Robert Spencer writes:
“There is compelling reason to conclude that Muhammad, the messenger of Allah came into existence only after the Arab Empire was firmly entrenched and casting about for a political theology to anchor and unify it. Muhammad and the Qur’an cemented the power of the Umayyad caliphate and then that of the Abbasid caliphate.”
Religion predates philosophy and science. It was a primitive attempt to explain the world by people who knew nothing of atoms, molecules, cells, genes, DNA, microbes, the Copernican universe, or the Law of Conservation of Energy and Matter.
If you like fairy tales, I recommend Ovid’s Metamorphoses.
It’s no less mythological, but better written and more entertaining than the
The persecution of Julian Assange demonstrates that the religious tradition of murdering heretics, still practiced in many Muslim countries, is extant.
You wallow in your ignorance pitifully. You made a charge of lies in the Qur’an, which you haven’t read. What you may have read is the prejudiced opinions of orientalists. Your knowledge of history is woeful. The Messenger of God preceded the empires you speak of. I ask again, provide your list of lies or APOLOGISE.
You appear to lead a totally materialistic life, out of touch with the spiritual potential within you.
Good outlook. The people, the working class peope, need to unite and put aside superficial divisions and fight together.
I challenge the notion that anyone “cannot be strong because they have families to support”. That’s utterly ridiculous. If a person is unwilling to ‘be strong’ to protect their own family from poisoning and a soulless existence under totalitarian dictatorship, what else could possibly elicit courage from them?
It’s not about Assange per se; it’s about the ‘justice’ we are being fobbed off with regarding to many cases besides this one, notorious already by the several abuses of due process that have occurred to date. It astonishes me that the UK governance, which is/was party to the ‘Coalition of the Willing’, could have any say in the judgement of J.A., since conjointly with the USA, they are as guilty of ‘collateral murder’ as the principal actor. And all the black-washing going on BTL here has been one long attempt to obfuscate this real issue, and by golly, they are out in force, if not the entire brigade, a battalion at least.
Whatever the truth about Assange, we haven’t been told all there is to know about him. He was seen being escorted by the police to the Ecuadorian Embassy on that Sunday in August 2010 when he made his balcony speech. The MSM would have us believe that he hadn’t left the place since entering it in June that year, but that simply isn’t true. Why the lie about this, I don’t know, but something is being hid from us.
So Assange had himself arrested, persecuted prosecuted incarcerated under horrific conditions leading to near death from emaciation for over a decade – as a deep agent of the deeeeeep state ? While from time to time staging cutesy balcony kubuki ? You are either yourself a deep state troll or you require serious anti-psychotic meds. Either way FO.
Here’s the killer from the Gruan that steadfast defender of journalistic freedom.
OPINON The Graun 11-12-2021 by Joel Simon Journalist
”In the battle for safety In the battle between truth and lies, we must protect the world’s journalists.”
I really am lost for words! I don’t really think I can cap that!
WHAT DID WIKILEAKS ACTUALLY ‘LEAK’?
“The first major ‘leak’ released earlier this year by Assange was about occupied Afghanistan in the form of more than 92,000 documents.
These docs included ‘secret files’ about civilian killings by the US and NATO along with boogeyman stories about the long-dead Osama Bin Laden, garbage regarding the Taliban acquiring ground-to-air missiles, and plenty of lies about Pakistan’s intelligence agency, the ISI (2).
There wasn’t a single document about the Israeli training of the Taliban (3), the massive drug profiteering by the Mossad (4), the CIA (5) and the US-puppet Hamid Karzai and his brother (6), Karzai’s connections to Unocal and Zionist war criminal Henry Kissinger (7), the clandestine Israeli business operations set up to take control of the oil fields in neighboring Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan (8), or the Russian-Jewish mafia, fully protected by the Zionist entity, selling guns to US-backed Afghan warlords (9).
Why weren’t any of these massively important, critically damning events and operations mentioned? Because by doing so, it would incriminate the already internationally condemned Zionist regime.
Journalists, bloggers and activists, from occupied Afghanistan and abroad, have been reporting on the vast civilian casualties in Afghanistan since US intervention began more than 30 years ago. Wikileaks revealed nothing that wasn’t already known; however, it did reinforce Zionist propaganda regarding the illegal ‘war on terror.’”
You are obsessed with zionism that has nothing much to do with anything.
more satanism than anything
most zionist are khazar ashkanazim
who self identify as yahoo
read a book called the 13th tribe by ashkanazi writer called koestler
and the zion book by douglas reed
really fascinating stuff init
COVID has achieved the goal sought by tyrants since time began: making truth irrelevant. No longer need tyrants strive to cover their tracks. The people, by and large, no longer require proof; word of mouth is sufficient.
And with the irrelevance of truth comes the complete irrelevance of anyone, be it Julian Assange or someone else, who would reveal the truth.
At the time of the most damning Wikileaks release – the Iraq helicopter footage – it was apparent that most Americans didn’t really care. Besides which, nothing was revealed that the Iraqis didn’t already know. So the damage was minimal at best. Tantamount to a man walking about with his zipper unzipped: one always wonders if he’s aware of his little faux pas.
In that regard, Mr Assange’s extradition demonstrates that the US legal system now works strictly on auto pilot – particularly since the worst punishment it can inflict on him in the real world is to send him home to Australia.
If there is even an extradition. Or is it just more theater? There’s no proof any of this nonsense is real. It seems staged and fake. Like the alleged torture of Manning whose public persona supports the trans narrative (that the eugenics cartel are constantly promoting) and was supposedly pardoned by Obama.
And Manning is now working for MIT, pushing the Bitcoin-NSA operation, promoting digital currency, the online control grid and a cashless society!
It’s all fakery. Nobody was ever in prison. Nobody is being extradited.
And I have a very nice bridge to sell you.
The world isn’t what is presented on tv, in the media or in the indoctrination system known as education.
So I’m guessing you think the media and government that lie when they murder and injure babies and children with vaccines are telling the truth about Assange being imprisoned, extradited and prosecuted?
Doesn’t really follow does it? They lie openly and brazenly about some things but not about others.
The issues or subjects you want to believe, they are telling the truth about. But the things you might not want to believe such as your own eyes telling you there are no bodies in the streets, and no excess all-cause mortality stats in any country, they might have lied about.
So you just pick and choose what or whom to believe and you can’t ever connect the dots? You can’t see that there’s any patterns to these repeated deceptions and fraud?
You can’t figure out who funds and starts these media and government generated psy-ops? And why they are always connected to the same people, foundations and organizations that are perpetuating ALL the frauds? Including the worldwide fraud of invisible, computer generated entities causing illness?
You seem to believe whatever garbage the media pump out. Such as Greta Thunberg having autism. That was an outright lie. She’s just an actor from a family of actors.
Assange is just an intelligence asset/operative from a family of liars, pedophiles and frauds that used to be ensconced in an occult cult.
Wikileaks is still on twitter, tweeting their BS but you claimed here, you were banned. Wake the hell up Marilyn. Don’t be so gullible and naive.
Covid doesnt exist. Lockdowns dont exist. Millions being vaxxed isnt happening.They are all aspects of a psyops being waged against me by my TV. When i begin to believe they might really be happening outside in the real world i take a headache powder, with a cup of tea, then have a lie down. Works most of the time…
Covid is based on a test that doesn’t test anyone for anything except Human DNA and some common bacteria sequences.
A psychological operation doesn’t have to be based on any truth whatsoever. Just on a narrative, repeated ad nauseam. Or a fake test generating faux statistics. The AIDS scam worked exactly the same way.
Are you really that stupid that the scam has to be explained? Rhetorical! Answer is obviously yes.
what if nelson mandela was a knight of malta
what if he was a stooge of wall street
and the empire of the city of london
what if boris was born in new york as churchill
what if central banker brothers where in germany with nazi and at the fed in usa
what if montague norman head of the bank of england purchased stolen czech and hungary gold from the nazi
what if rockerfella standard oil leaded fuel was used by the raf and the luftwaffe
what if hitlers brother lived in liverpool and hitler vistted often on days off from taivstock training russell square
what if your doctor hated you and wanted you dead
assange gave nothing provided the pressure for arabs to be slaughter
what did he really give him or snowdon
the story can be turned on and off
like stephen laurence maddy mccan
the manchester bombing story enquiry
pop up gone
back again gone
Circus & spectacle operate narrative identity redistribution as a kind of musical chairs with entropy.
Engagement within a narrative is unable to see its own casting.
Whatever the means to incentivise, nudge or trick narrative investment, and whoever or whatever it is ascribed to, I also notice a ‘selfishness’ not unlike pass the parcel, in which the object of the game is NOT to be caught with the package of guilt and penalty when the music stops. Every kind of masking deceit operates that someone else or something else is assigned such a role for denial & exclusion.
So while I notice the circus of core themes acted out on the stage of the world, I look for the recognitions or resonances that serve to release me from investor and stakeholder in a guilt-predicated distortion of life as sin set in grievance calling down blame as vengeance, worshipped as power, masked in virtue. And not as a self-evasive ‘escape’ of dissociation, but the willingness to be present with what is here. This is always both inner and outer characteristics. Discernment as the way of being true to that I am, rather than what I or anyone thinks should be. Questioning the questionable as a means to reveal a knowing that cannot be defined or encapsulated, but in truth, you do know who you are – regardless the masking overlay of acquired or inherited conditioned strategies of thought and behaviour.
An underlying theme I see is that of freedom given to illusions that are at best a modelling replication or representation of the image and form of life, but have no innate self-organising awareness and alignment AS life, and so effect a death cult in blind reactive groupthink under narrative capture.
Groupthink has its own always shifting rendering of freedom, adversity and oppression, as a carrot and stick principle to its own narrative derivarion, and driven compulsion. It seeks externally for validation and reinforcement from a presumption of lack. Herein the Great Projection of a fragmented life set by fear of total loss in the drive to limit and distance as a personal salvation or sacrifice as the way life (so defined), works. The question ‘who pays?’ is then the struggle for or redistribution of power, so defined.
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men shall never put Humpty together again.
But the root of the idea of Progress rather than cyclic progression rose from the loss of a ‘Golden Age’.
Archetypal patterns operate drama-set in flesh. Charged domains of energetic/informational exchange set in broken Family Constellation.
Ancient Hates demand sacrifice.
The Call to Life never went anywhere but our capacity to hear our own making drowns it out to a feint Echo, while Narcissus is turned to a flower.
(Living freedom to a crystaline matrix)
I am very puzzled by the frequent allegations that Mr Assange is an “asset” of the Deep State, or “controlled opposition”.
As far as I know, almost everything he has done has been calculated to inform the public of the crimes committed by “its” government, and thereby to strengthen democracy.
So perhaps it is those who try to undermine his credibility and his reputation who deserve a closer look.
One question – can you name a single revelation by Wikileaks or Julian which has informed the public to the extent of seriously damaging the establishment narrative?
I suggest there is far more serious revelation on this website and similar websites than ever appeared out of Wikileaks.
But I’m open to correction on the matter – if anyone here can correct me
Well no one had released the full Collateral Murder, or the cover up of tens of thousands of more deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq, or the pollies in Australia spying for the USA and Israel against our own interests.
maybe first look at who is supporting him
And look at Julian’s history! Raised in a cult for goodness’ sake. Was it linked to MKUltra? Who knows. Has Julian been an asset most of his life? Gotta be possible
This is just smear, Nudge, nudge. ”Was it linked to MKUltra?” ”Who knows”? Has Julian been an asset most of his life? Gotta be possible?
Yep just like a flying pig.
But it is exactly what was to be expected. After all there is a war going on.
And it’s his fault is it that his mother went to a cult? Wow, just fucking wow. What a jack ass you are. And Julian is as much a CIA or any spy company asset as I am
Ah, I had wondered… That makes sense now.
Never heard of a limited hangout?
Agreed. The replies to your post were very interesting. I think we can surmise the nature of the source of these replies
you don’t have to guess what the sources are, I’ll give them to you
will you comment?
Said by the operative who believes in fictional entities and “virus” bio weapons. Perpetuating the frauds of governments on the public.
You have yet to make one comment here that is any way close to the truth.
You deserve a closer look.
Classic COINTELPRO disinfo. Stating that anyone who challenges Assange’s legitimacy is dubious instead of answering the allegations and evidence that he’s a limited hangout front for the global cartel and multiple governments.
Wikleaks doesn’t challenge governments and offers no threat to any. It doesn’t expose the frauds and hoaxes that governments and the media create and perpetuate. It supports and legitimizes those frauds by pretending it can only speak about information its received.
Yet Wikileaks only receives info that governments want published. Catch 22, SCAM.
You must live under a rock then
Au contraire, Marilyn.
Do you know who Cass Sunstein is?
Wikileaks = Cass Sunstein’s Program for Cognitive Infiltration In Action
These publicized NGOs and orgs and the people fronting them, presented to us by the media, as heroes or villains are just puppets, play acting. It’s not real.
Nothing in the media is real. Nothing. Find me any headline in The Age, The Australian, The Herald etc., and I can pull the entire story apart as a false narrative to perpetuate a mass deception, in about 2 minutes flat.
1) “You know where your cat is – but not granny who’s a bit vague these days? That’s crazy!”
2) “You know where your cat and granny are – but not your child? That’s crazy!”
3) Some people have microchips and some don’t? That’s crazy – and discrimination!”
It’s also classic mis-direction:
1) Microchips aren’t the real danger – it’s nano-tech.
2) The point of identifying cat-owners is that it’s a crucial step to getting rid of animal pets altogether (see IBM and Nazi Germany).
The poll claiming 99% support shows they just don’t care about making their statistics vaguely believable now. I’m only surpised it wasn’t 109%.
What could ever go wrong?. Lesbian judge jew heritage in charge of Epstein Case.
Mossange is zionist poison
If you have nothing of value to say how about say nothing at all instead of slandering people – the joke you fool is Assange is persona non grata in Australia because he exposed out deep and corrupt ties to Israel and the papers named the scum pollies doing the dirty work of Israel. In fact one of the PM’s advisors was a former Mossad shill.
After being made famous, Julian Assange’s first task is to wound a rival bank of the Rothschild Bank in Switzerland. The rival is Bank Julius Baer, the top Swiss bank for centuries: the competing Rothschild Bank AG opened in Switzerland in 1968.
On January 17, 2011, Assange held a press conference at The Frontline Club where Rudolf Elmer, a former employee of Bank Julius Baer, gave Assange private files from the bank’s Cayman Islands’ operation. Elmer said he wanted to expose mass tax evasion before he flies back to Switzerland to stand trial for stealing information from a bank. Although Elmer has not named the tax evaders, he claims the CD files contain information about 40 politicians, many business people, multinational conglomerates and “people who have made their living in the arts.”
Rothschilds’ Swiss Bank Battles
Assange’s press conference was actually a public threat to Bank Julius Baer: Wikileaks first disclosed some of Elmer’s Julius-Baer material in 2008, naming ten clients. At the time, Julius Baer sued and got a court injunction to effectively shut down Wikileaks.org at its web host in California. Subsequently, the law firm Fox Rothschild represented Wikileaks, got the injunction overturned, and got Wikileaks.org back on line. Immediately, WL commenced leaking more of Elmer’s documents, which was damaging to Bank Julius Baer.
Bank JB got a lot of negative publicity from its attempt to censor the Internet. When JB lost the suit, their super-elite clients became fearful of being exposed and prosecuted for tax evasion and money laundering. Julius Baer shares dropped 60% during the next ten months. On Dec. 4, 2008, the 52-year-old CEO of Julius Baer, Alex Widmer, was unexpectedly found dead.
“He was the most important person in private banking”, said a Zurich-based trader.
“This is a setback for the bank (Julius Baer)”, a Swiss trading analyst said.
Reports of the cause of death were contradictory and vague and an autopsy was never released.
Wikileaks Julian Assange filming a video for The Economist (a Rothschild publication) which gave him its New Media Award
Wikileaks’ many other links to Rothschilds
The recent imprisonment of Wikileaks’ Julian Assange strains credulity. His arrest by Interpol, his incarceration under draconian conditions for breaking a condom are in themselves highly unlikely events, but the timing of his imprisonment with the release of classified US cables and the campaign against Wikileaks’ funding and website host bear the trademarks of a covert operation.
There are many links between Wikileaks and the international Rothschild network:
a sister-in-law and second cousin of the Rothschilds posted bail for Julian Assange
The Economist (a Rothschild magazine) gave Assange its New Media Award in 2008
Wikileaks used the law firm Fox Rothschild to overturn a judge’s ruling to order a web host to shut down the Wikileaks site
The Guardian and The New York Times, two of Assange’s media partners, are linked to the Rothschilds (PwP exclusive)
the owner of the mansion where Assange was eventually put under house arrest has links to Rothschilds
Assange’s lawyer is also Rothschilds’ lawyer
US Senator Joe Lieberman who was ultimately responsible for making Assange the largest media personality of the decade, is a member of the Council On Foreign Relations (a Rothschild organization)
Zac Goldsmith (married to Kate Rothschild) winning the election with sister, Jemima Khan (nee Goldsmith)(right), and mother, Annabel Goldsmith
SOCIALITE, HEIRESS JEMIMA KHAN (née Goldsmith) posted £20,000 pounds ($32,000) for the bail of Wikileaks’ leader Julian Assange. She’s genetically related to the Rothschilds and she is a sister-in-law. Her father, the late James Goldsmith—British banker, publisher–is a cousin to the Rothschilds. James’ grandfather Adolphe Goldschmidt came to London as a multi-millionaire in 1895 and changed the family name from the German Goldschmidt to the English Goldsmith. The Goldschmidts, like their neighbors and relatives the Rothschilds, had been prosperous merchant bankers in Frankfurt Germany since the 16th century (Wikipedia).
Following the Rothschild’s centuries-old edict to interbreed, Jemima Khan’s brother, Ben, wed Kate Rothschild in 2003 and recently her other brother, Zac, a new MP in British parliament had been having an affair with his brother’s sister-in-law, Alice Rothschild (Kate’s sister), up until he divorced his wife four days after he was elected MP. Zac and Alice are presently living together. Khan’s brothers are marrying into Rothschild wealth.
The Rothschilds began grooming Julian Assange in 2008, when Wikileaks was awarded The Economist’s New Media Award. The Economist is the voice of Britain’s establishment (led by the British Rothschilds) which has, for example, on balance, supported Britain’s involvement in the Iraq war. Sir Evelyn Robert Adrian de Rothschild was chairman of The Economist from 1972 to 1989. His wife Lynn Forester de Rothschild currently sits on The Economist’s board. The Rothschild family also has a large shareholder interest in The Economist.
At first blush, it is unlikely that the The Economist, the pinnacle of the establishment, would give their award to Assange knowing full well that he was releasing classified government documents and being aware of the havoc this will create in the world. The Rothschilds’ oft-stated goal (over the centuries) is for a One World Government (i.e. The New World Order). To this end they engineer conflict between nations, to create crises that will then be utilized to increase the power of international entities—the UN, World Bank, IMF, etc. For example, they (and other closely-related families like the Schiffs) financed the Bolsheviks. In the past, the Rothschild empire have profited by bankrolling both sides of war.
US SENATOR JOE LIEBERMAN is the Rothschild’s point man in America. During the last presidential election, he took his friend, Republican candidate John McCain to Jacob Rothschild’s house for a fund-raiser for McCain. Lieberman is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (a Rothschild cabal which is essentially the shadow government of the US). Lieberman’s recent actions resulted in cutting off the money supply of Wikileaks: Paypal, Mastercard, Visa, stopped accepting donations for Wikileaks. Lieberman publicly took credit for censoring Wikileaks’ website by pressuring Amazon to stop hosting the website. The result was that Anonymous hactivists launched attacks on the websites of companies (above) which had discontinued service to Wikileaks. Lieberman’s campaign against Wikileaks had the effect of increasing the martyrdom and hence the popularity of Assange and Wikileaks. Lieberman made Assange a star, nearly becoming Time magazine’s Man of The Year.
Julian Assange’s lawyer is Mark Stephens of Finers Stephens Innocent, a major London elite law firm. They are the legal adviser to the Rothschild’s prestigious Waddesdon Trust.
Assange’s main media partner is The Guardian. The Guardian has been infiltrated by Rothschilds. The Guardian is controlled by Guardian Media Group whose chairman is Paul Myners a past employee of N. M. Rothschild Limited & Sons Limited. Guardian Media Group is owned by Scott Trust which became a limited private company in 2008 with all trustees becoming directors of the Scott Trus
The Guardian, they destroyed him, you really are just silly
ignorance is not strength
No but it is reassuring apparently. Thanks for the information.
der einige just gave us a homework project!
The claims above deserve investigation; from me, because the explanation fits the ongoing narrative:
At first blush, it is unlikely that the The Economist, the pinnacle of the establishment, would give their award to Assange knowing full well that he was releasing classified government documents and being aware of the havoc this will create in the world. The Rothschilds’ oft-stated goal (over the centuries) is for a One World Government (i.e. The New World Order). To this end they engineer conflict between nations, to create crises that will then be utilized to increase the power of international entities—the UN, World Bank, IMF, etc. For example, they (and other closely-related families like the Schiffs) financed the Bolsheviks. In the past, the Rothschild empire have profited by bankrolling both sides of war.
They already have their one world government. That was the UN. That’s why when politicians publicly talk about the NWO that wasn’t a reference to the future, but a reference to the past.
The Banking-Drug-Military-PhRMA-Energy-Mining-Tech cartel don’t need a OWG, since they already own all the countries through the monetary system, the tax systems, the incorporated entities on stock exchanges, incorporated courts and incorporated municipalities.
I’ve found out the hard way, facts aren’t welcome here. The duped don’t want to know facts. They need their heroes and villains, their bread and circuses and mostly they can’t admit or even conceive they have been fooled.
They resort to a “shoot the messenger” mentality if you dare challenge their inane belief systems. In my experience, they are incapable of reasoning or rational debate if it challenges their world view.
Yeah, right. This kind of bilge is going to give OffG a bad name.
facts are now ‘bilge’ are they… perhaps you simply don’t like these ‘facts’ because they create conflict (one should always maintain an open mind, but not so open ones brains fall out)… because of course when you remove the impossible whatever remains, no matter how ‘improbable’, must be the truth..
perhaps you prefer censorship, after all it might protect your ‘heroes’?… sound familiar?
absolutely no imbecile in the public space should be above scrutiny..particularly the ‘who’, what and where of his supposed associations…
No they are not facts, people are just making up shit, probably all CIA shills here.
Are you saying that the Globalists had set JA to destroy the reputation of the US government? Possibly, his contribution, together with numerous other measures culminating in the covid farce, have destroyed the US politically and economically, with its social cohesion in tatters. The union of states stands now on the verge of a break-up. With the imminent destruction of US and its protege EU, the Globalists’ advance towards a One World Government will be a lot easier.
Having successfully used JA, is he now a spent force and can be sacrificed?
I am not agreeing with anything you say. Just reviewing my own ideas in the light of your “revelations”.
Israel is fair game for gatekeepers though up to a point. Deep state involvement in 9/11 is not.
Guess what Wikileaks studiously avoided – yes, deep state involvement in 9/11.
So to that extent hey behaved exactly as gatekeepers would.
Listen you jackasses, Wilileaks could only publish what they were given. FFS I have read some crap in my life but this rubbish takes the biscuit for deranged.
Don’t you find it odd that not one piece of genuine info concerning the greatest fraud and crime of the 21st c was ever leaked to Wikileaks?
Don’t you find it odd NO seriously anti-establishment data of any kind ever found its way to Julian?
And was Julian FORCED to sneer at truthers?
So Julian is guilty of not receiving genuine info about People Who Really Count. Julian is guilty of not being ‘anti-establishment’, or is it ‘he was not anti-establishment enough by my yardsticks’ ?
How the hell am i gonna get into Heaven with my record of not doing the things others believed i might have done ‘if’ they were in my place ? I find it worrying that people can make logic seems so logical.
How’s this: The Real Establishment is smarter than you, me and Julian, our brains working together.
The way the corporate media impugn someone’s reputation is to ask lots of questions that impute. They’re not interested in the answers. They know there is no answers to their clever questions.
And – It’s not about Julian. It’s about …..
He supports the fraud of this hoax and dozens of other obvious government hoaxes. Playing “vaccinated”.
Marilyn will just say he was forced to get it, ignoring the fact his dad seems totally on board with it.
Yes. However, nobody is forced in the UK. He very publicly created a narrative that he was fearful of something that doesn’t even exist. He continues to spread lies about this non existent virus through his handlers and PR.
Since the US aren’t allowing unvaccinated into the country, a good strategy (IF ANY OF THIS WAS REAL, which it most certainly isn’t) would be to remain unvaccinated. Heh.
Poor Julian, in this podcast he sounds so compromised … It’s what he doesn’t say that is more telling. Invariably he reveals his allegiance to Israel. I wonder who his handlers really are?
Famous Judaic-Freemasons with connections to multiple governments. Soros and the usual suspects including those who funded and assisted in his faux imprisonment, faux defense and faux extradition.
Thank you for this video, which I hadn’t seen before. JA looks so uncomfortable answering the question about a new 9/11 investigation. JA lies through omission and understating facts. I am reviewing my ideas about JA, who I have looked up to as a hero until now.
Julian’s gift of Wikileaks sets the unforgivable example of allowing the hoi poloi
to examine the source, raw materials of High-Level discourse.
The Internet in the early days made this possible too but monopoly controls on distribution points slowed the flow of cross-referencing.
These two articles only came to my notice looking at the references in the wikispooks article of Tragedy and Hope.
In the immortal words of Dr. Phil Jones.( Climate Gate e mails)
“The internet has enabled these people to find one another – unfortunately”
As a Brit, I was not surprised at the verdict.
The spineless UK government sucke up yet again to the Yanks.
Shamelful, I wonder what Corbyn will say, or be allowed to say…
How on earth can two U.K. judges, appointed to be independent of power, to serve as protection and defense of the people against capricious injustice of power make a judgment that effectively turns over an innocent man into the hands of psychopathic murderers by implying the the man is the criminal and the murderers are the injured and innocent party? It seems the U.S. government, whatever that actually is, can assert without any right of contradiction, that all its actions, especially abroad, are good, moral and perfect because of its exceptional status by divine appointment. Any negative consequence accruing to its actions, therefore, are the fault of negligent actors who wandered unthinkingly into one of their zones of interest and activity. And no-one is permitted to challenge that conclusion and remain free.
Julian Assange is like the gerasene madman chained among the tombstones that his community has expelled from their midst because he could see too clearly. The Gerasenes were suffering under the crushing oppression of the Roman Empire but put up with it partly because their own leaders were collaborators with empire and enforced the mandates, and partly because if they rebelled they knew from experience that things would only get worse. Perhaps the madman had a prophetic streak in him because he could see straight about how treasonous the collaboration was for the community, but to hold a candle up to shed some light brought down their wrath. Surely the light-bringer was the problem because he would get them into big trouble with the ruling world power which did not take kindly to having its actions exposed or criticized.
I can imagine all the crazy thoughts attacking Julian day and night in the cemetery of his solitary cell; thoughts that embody the demonic legions of American Empire projecting its sins onto Julian in order that at all costs it be seen to be good and noble and righteous and strong. And when the British collaborators finally betray him to the deep state, it can display him in their own kangaroo court as guilty of treason. If Julian manages somehow to survive that odious betrayal and further injustice, the U.S. state can then subject him to the most refined torture they can devise with the help of psychologists certified by the American Psychological Society so that no ‘ethical’ guidelines are breached.
Once he breathes his last, the British collaborators can return again to their carefully crafted image of ‘good and faithful servant’, empire boot lickers, cleansed of all impurity.
Innocent men are extradited all the time in order that their guilt or innocence be determined in a court of law. You need a bit more than Assange’s innocence. Or do you oppose the notion of extradition?
good one Orthus you have served your masters well.
Now,analyse the two sentences you have written.
This is reminiscent of Gates’s and ID2020’s “to prove who you are is a fundamental and universal human right” – fraught with false assumptions.
Tony’s a deep state psyopmoc designed to bust a few dissident gaskets…
As long as the funding continues, academics will contine to run multiple experiments on undermining dissent.
“Hey, aren’t the same mass murdering corporate fascist eugenicist psycho criminals behind the prosecution, unjust incarceration, torture and persecution of Julian Assange the same ones behind the war racket(s) and the Scamdemic? ”
“What is not to understand who the actual enemy of WE THE PEOPLE (Humanity) is?”
Democracy and propaganda are incompatible…
There have been many warnings of the danger propaganda can be to democracy…
‘Let us begin by examining what psychological effects propaganda operations can have on the individual. Aside from the effects the propagandist seeks to obtain directly – eg a person’s vote – his psychological manipulations evoke certain forces in the unconscious and traumatise the individual in various ways. A person subjected to propaganda does not remain intact or undamaged: not only will his opinions and attitudes be modified, but also his impulses and his mental and emotional structures; it produces profound changes.’
‘Under the influence of propaganda certain latent drives that are vague, unclear, and often without any particular objective suddenly become powerful, direct, and precise. Propaganda furnishes objectives, organises the traits of an individual’s personality into a system, and freezes them into a mold. For example, prejudices that exist about any event become greatly reinforced and hardened by propaganda; the individual is told he is right for harboring them; he discovers reasons and justifications for a prejudice when it is clearly shared by many and proclaimed openly.(Much more, this hardening of an individual’s prejudices permits him to resist facts and the pressure of contrary events.)’
‘Once propaganda begins to utilise and direct an individual’s hatreds, he no longer has any chance to retreat, to reduce his animosities, or to seek reconciliations with his opponents. Moreover, he now has a supply of ready-made judgements where he had only some vague notions before the propaganda set in; and those judgements permit him to face any situation. He will never again have reason to change judgements that he will thereafter consider the one and only truth.’
‘In this fashion, propaganda standardises current ideas, hardens prevailing stereotypes, and furnishes thought patterns in all areas. Thus it codifies social, political, and moral standards. Of course, man needs to establish such standards and categories. …propaganda gives an overwhelming force to the process: man can no longer modify his judgements and thought patterns. The force springs, on the one hand, from the character of the media employed, which give the appearance of objectivity to subjective impulses, and, on the other, from everybody’s adherence to the same standards and prejudices.’
‘At the same time, these collective beliefs, which the individual assumes as his own, these scales of values and stereotypes, which play only a small part in the psychological life of a person unaffected by propaganda, become big and important; by the process of crystallisation, these images begin to occupy a person’s entire consciousness, and to push out other feelings and judgements. All truly personal activity on the part of the individual is diminished, and man is filled with nothing but these prejudices and beliefs around which all else revolves……’ ‘Propaganda. The Formation of Men’s Attitudes.’ Jacques Ellul.
The Psyops Warriors have studied Ellul. If you’ve come face-to -face with any of their subjects, you no doubt wish there was a cure for such monomania other than a bullet to their brains..
The ability to vote is not democracy. We have never had democracy.
The two party system is two checks of the same ass. It’s so obviously divide and conquer.
*cheeks* of the same ass.
Some would have read the opening assertion to mean “propaganda makes democracy a pipedream, or, an impossibility.” We are submerged in propaganda, it is totalitarian. We have never had democracy.
There’s so many government spooks here defending the frauds, the covid narrative and all the other psy-ops. I dread coming here to read the lies.
The spooks here love to throw words around as if they mean something.
Virus = invisible particle nobody has ever found in physical actuality, that’s entirely defined through a fraudulent test that multiplies strings of irrelevant genetic sequences.
Healthcare = Automaton doctors under the complete control of PhRMA, poisoning men, women and children with toxic drugs and deadly vaccines, charging exorbitant rates for cutting the life of their patients short by two decades.
Democracy = voting to give away all your authority and innate, god given rights, to a nameless faceless, corporate entity that uses deception and lies, to farm you, steal from you, tax you, fine you, regulate your activities online and offline, miseducate you, propagandize you, medically experiment on you, poison you with toxins in your water, air, soil, good and medicine, and impoverish you, while forcing you into an unnatural, immoral, iniquitous slave-class-hierarchy system where you can be monitored, tracked and controlled, coerced, manipulated, conned, subdued, threatened and exploited from birth until death. That’s not freedom. It’s total tyranny.
So how governments – through the media and the indoctrination system called “education” based on repeating lies incessantly – ever managed to scam people into believing they were free, or lived in any kind of democracy, is beyond belief.
Thank you Researcher, it needs putting into words. I hope you will keep posting as the thing to remember it’s not for the bar flies on here, it’s for all the silent intelligent readers and they are many. That’s why the spooks are here.
Many of them have blown cover now so no doubt there will be new names but same tactics. You get an eye for the real thing.
The untold millions doing low level spook work are the useless eaters. But they too are human, I once knew a young graduate Vietnamese man who was approached to join ASIO or whatever and he asked me my opinion. Naturally I said I personally would rather wash dishes, but I saw his jobless predicament and I said this is the world we live in.
Thank you. Yes. I have seen the operation here BTL and it is very deep and it includes civilian Masons and army intelligence using multiple identities. It is the kind of operation where they defend the lies and fraud and pounce on anyone exposing them.
If I can cross the rubicon and realize through some rudimentary enquiry and reasoning that most of what we have been told all our lives is based on a tissue of lies, repeated ad nauseam, then others can do the same.
It’s only the lies and mass deceptions that enables those in power to stay wealthy beyond belief, and untouchable, whilst directly causing all the impoverishment and misery from the trauma based, mass mind control for the 99%.
Yes, and we really don’t need them. The institutions we have would do very well without the lying parasites and their appointees. The world abounds with talented good people.
Crossing the Rubicon is shocking but then you realise that this is the world as it is and many of course know it. Or parts of it. But despite all the push towards Relativism I still think we share the same morality, apart from the parasites.
But was it you who said that covid is real and there is a pandemic? And that you have been double vaccinated? Or was that a different Martin?
different.. Martin with capital M perhaps. I am avoiding the death shot like the plague!
But did you know you can post here using an existing poster’s name? I know because somebody did post using my name with small m. I don’t think on purpose. I like posting under my own name but it is a common one.
Yes. I did know, regarding posting with the same name as someone else. I don’t think you can change the avatar however, because each one appears to be randomly generated and device and email specific. Glad to know you aren’t the double vaxxed Martin.
Agree too with your assessment on the multitude of talented, capable decent people.
Relativism and solipsism is just one of their tricks to sidetrack those willing to search for the knowable truth versus automatically believing the majority-view, unprovable, mass deceptions.
I don’t see anything wrong with debating consensus. We can’t advance intellectually, individually or collectively unless we are willing to undergo some minor discomfort about our pre-conceived notions and examine the origins of our institutions and ideas.
Controlled opposition reveal partial truths to keep larger, more egregious crimes and deceptions hidden. The best way to control the opposition is to lead it yourself.
US intelligence-military were obviously feeding Wikileaks reams and reams of redacted, mostly irrelevant information and cables that prop up the false narratives of oppositional sovereign nations states and the laughable East vs West paradigm.
Chelsea Manning was never tortured or imprisoned. Just a trans actor that would certainly would not have access to sensitive data in the military. The entire story of the leaks is as unbelievable as the “Reality Winner” psy-op that Greenwald promoted.
Wikileaks fits in with the framework of other NSA psy-ops like Anonymous and QAnon.
Wikleaks, Anonymous and Q-Anon are NSA disinfo fronts. They each appeal to a certain political sector of the public.
Q-Anon appeals to the right wing and evangelicals who believe Trump is their savior in chief.
Anonymous pushes the alien hoax, the hacking narratives and appeals to the anti-establishment and COINTELPRO created “conspiracy“ fringe and Libertarians.
And Wikileaks appeals to those on the left who oppose the orchestrated, coordinated wars but still believe in the absolute fiction of oppositional nation states, such as Russia and China being a foil to NATO and the US.
Bitcoin is also an NSA front and Wikileaks was one of the first orgs to publicize and promote its use.
All the people associated with Wikileaks and Assange are controlled opposition hacks – Greenwald, Poitras, John Pilger, Hedges, Michael Moore, Slavoj Žižek, Craig Murray, RT. Edward Snowden which was a coordinated CIA-NSA-MSS-FSB psy-op.
Others associated with Wikileaks include Judaic-Masons like Jemima Khan, crass celebrity faux “activists” such as Lady Gaga, Vivienne Westwood, Pamela Anderson, and then there are the Zionists, operatives and shills associated with Wikileaks such as Soros, Roger Stone and Alan Dershowitz who’s a pedophile and associate of Epstein.
These creeps always hang in the same circles, supporting the same asinine agendas: Trans agenda. Vegan agenda. Vaccine agenda. BLM agenda. GMO agenda. Climate agenda. Green agenda. Red vs Blue agenda. Zionist Agenda.
demockracy… and which flavour…
the athenians utilized it but it was always a tool of oligarchy…
and it always will be until it resolves itself into tyrannical dictatorship which it always will (as noted by the greeks)..because eventually the biggest mobster..
will come to own your so called demockratic society having bought it lock stock and barrel..
demockracy (a tool of oligarchy) comes before and of course creates the ‘propaganda’, with which it brainwashes the plebeian masses… through this relentless programming and so called ‘education’, the common imbecile comes to believe that they possess demockratic freedumb (and a plethora of other absurdities)….all this in order that oligarchy may continue farming them unhindered….
until that is… the oligarchs decide to rescind the demockratic privileges that never really existed.. because they are no longer profitable and because pure brutal tyranny (of what ever flavour) will deliver better outcomes (for them)..
Britain is a mere handmaiden of the odious regime in Washington. Any critiques of human rights in China are absurd travesties considering the medicofascism and the excesses of deep state spook agencies in western countries.
It’s the other way around. US is the handmaiden of the British-European Banking Cartel and monarchies. China is a subsidiary of the globalist Judaic-Freemason, banking cartel.
The “critiques“ are the necessary psy-ops that help build and maintain the illusion that nations are sovereign entities and not privately owned and centrally managed incorporated municipalities.
How brave of the anonymous author of this mini-article to drop this smear—matter-of-factly—about a brave journalist who has been detained for more than a decade, and viciously persecuted, precisely by that so-called ‘deep state.’
You should be embarrassed to introduce such libel into your anemic write-up.
Try asking for a job at The Guardian: I hear James Ball is one of those with ‘divided opinions’ about Assange.
That’s what I think.
I think this piece does an accurate job of representing differing opinions in alt. media regarding this man, and differing opinions held by our readership, and I don’t think anyone is embarrassed for doing that. Thank you for your opinion. A2
There are differing opinions on every man and woman on earth, especially in the public domain and especially on alt media. To refer to Assange as “This Man” does sound rather derogatory and like you certainly have an opinion.
One of the things I have noticed about the “alternative media”, political fringe etc. is that it often seems to transmit establishment messages despite being supposedly anti-establishment. So we have the heaven-storming Trots at WSW complaining that the powers that be haven’t locked the peasants down enough and begging for more, and calling Assange “limited hangout” as some do is just arriving at establishment behaviour by a different route. I don’t think the PTB care if we don’t support Assange because we think he is limited hangout, or think he raped a woman or two. What they do care about is that their secrets do not get leaked.
Lol hilarious. This place has been totally on the front line of the covid psyop and you’re dissing it as pro-establishment even though it goes right along with the Assange soap opera because it simply mentions the fact some people are sceptical about Wikileaks.
So by the same token I guess you think Craig Murray and John Pilger are anti-establishment, even though they have spectacularly failed to oppose or question the covid psyop and Murray’s blog censors anyone who does.
Don’t you think it’s weird that Wikileaks never released any info that challenged a single major mainstream agenda?
Nothing on 9/11 and now nothing on covid.
Weeeeird, right. But you carry on believing.
So somebody on the inside, Fauci himself perhaps, leaked some documents to Wikileaks, documents that would have blown apart the whole Covid scam and they did not publish? Do you actually believe that there are secret 911 documents that have been handed to Wikileaks and then hidden by them?
The very name would imply that Wikileaks is not just a general campaigning organisation.
I don’t know if there are secret 9/11 docs or not. All I know is Wikileaks never published anything suggestive of deep state involvement in 9/11 and Julian sneered at 9/11 truthers
The flaw in the argument that Wikileaks never published deep state smear is that it assumes Wikileaks knew the story and could document it sufficiently to publish about it.. ..
where is the 9/11 story adequately documented, just like the Kennedy murder story, there is nothing documented; even leaks to JA would not be sufficient to publish the story, it would take mind reading machine to extract the real truth?
Anyone got a mind reading machine?
Will the person that passed the true documents of 9/11 to Julian Assange please stand up.
The reasoning is that since Wikileaks was a globally known data dumping site that you might expect something to turn up that throws at least some doubt on some aspect of the official story. Some find it significant this never happened. Plus Assange did disparage the 9/11 truth movement and has never endorsed it.
He a shill
Wikileaks was started long after 9/11 you moron.
yeah, what “good” came out of wikileaks, or the snowden “revelations”?
criminal governments taken to task and stripped of powers by the people?
criminal government agents tried and imprisoned?
new laws and oversight created to prevent such things happening in the future?
or simply the normalisation and acceptance of criminal government behaviour by the masses?
the point is, humanity is better off without a central hierarchically organized structured government. The problem with government is the same people stay in power..its takes a power hungry person to run for office or to accept a position as a judge, and after a while even honest power hungry persons and knowledge toting judges become accustomed to using their power to accomplish personally important corruption.
No person can run for office until they have completed a test, designed by the governed voters, that determine candidate qualification as suitable and sufficient so the voter expectation of adequate in office performance is likely.
a first rule in democratic governance is no one serves longer than 1 year during anyone’s lifetime.
No member of the same immediate or sibling family can hold office during any 40 year period and no bureaucrat or member of the military can be a candidate for an elected office until 20 years after all such service has been terminated.
No government should be authorized to private to anyone any part of the public space, public obligation to provide services (communications, power, water, sewer, etc) to the governed
No government should be allowed to create any monopoly ((copyright, patents, and private property laws) which pass the benefit of monopoly to private, non government, ownership, management or use.
No law passed, rule or order made, can be made effective unless and until a majority of each governed person has affixed his or her name to ratify it. and the duty of government should be to provide a complete, fair and accurate prospectus of the benefits, threats, and losses in freedom such a proposed law would cause the government as a part of the information given to those who are to vote on the law. If the bill, rule or law is not ratified by a majority of these who are the governed, then it cannot become effective.
All governed, non elected officials of the government, are automatically independent auditors with full rights to invade any and all government offices, at any time, and to bring changes and to prosecute the case against any elected person.
always we talk about what they did, I think we need to talk about what we need to do to stop the they.
let me simplify it for you.
Thanks — well said. I came to the comments to see if anyone else has been smelling a rat. And thanks for the info on Pilger — doesn’t surprise me that he isn’t questioning the covid psy-op. I guess it’s ok to point the finger at puppet “leaders” but not the puppeteers. Is Pilger really that shallow, or is he an asset? Maybe he’s just programmed like so many to eschew “conspiracy theories” lest he be labeled a total nut case, instead of just a partial one.
On the whole, this site seems to largely support Assange but “he’s really deep state” is in there too. Then again Tony Opmoc or whoever posts anything that occurs to him north of his pituitary gland and nothing is done about that.
It depends what you think of as a major mainstream agenda but US atrocities in Iraq were unveiled by Wikileaks. I am sure the US government really liked that…
I would be interested to know what Assange thinks about Covid, but communication with the outside world is often a problem for prisoners. Especially in politicised cases. Assuming someone is a state agent because he doesn’t have the same bees in his bonnet as me is quite a stretch…
I don’t think much of say, Chomsky or Pilger, and I think it possible that they are some sort of controlled opposition, but they have not been chased from place to place and thrown in jail the way Assange has. In fact state tactics regarding Assange suggest they view him as a dangerous enemy who needs discrediting, so we had the rape allegations which I know from personal experience discredited him with the feminist-inclined. And now we have the “he’s really deep state you know”.
Mind you, they could bring back the death penalty for Assange, publicly execute him and I think there would still be people who say, “he’s deep state, they didn’t really execute him, he’s lounging on a beach with Epstein”. LOL…
Hi Waldorf. Where the facts are ambiguous or open to interpretation or we try to present a spectrum of that interpretation. You obviously won’t agree with all of it.
Regarding ‘Tony Opmoc’ – he posts dozens of screeds a day and only a tiny fraction make it onto the page. He may be a shill of course but he may also be a strange lonely guy who likes making up stories about his life. So, we try to balance his right to post with the annoyance factor for others (inc me, I personally find him objectionable as he stalked me in the past). Believe it or not some people like his stuff and get upset when we ‘censor’ him. Again, we cater to a range of views and you won’t always agree with our decisions.
Your experience with Murray’s blog censorship mirrors the issues I had over there. Assange quite simply isn’t what we have been led to believe. I have no idea if that means that he is an intelligence asset or something else is going on and who is hiding something from us. If Murray hasn’t got something to hide, why do his team of moderators censor anyone who has info that questions the Assange narrative?
Go check our record on reporting the persecution of Assange and stop this concern trolling.
I was completely and utterly unaware that article 1 of the declaration of human rights had ”sides”, if you don’t know article 1 look it up and see if there are any qualifications at all.
Wow Marilyn calm the feck down. Why are you trying to whip up a witch hunt where anyone even questioning the Assange narrative is accused of wanting him to be persecuted?
You are doing exactly what the mask nazis do, trying to smother debate with spurious moral indignation!
He is being persecuted you jack ass.
With you Sam. Well written and concise. Perfect for opening a discussion
ISQUS handle their comment section? ↑↑↑ I agree but , my posts are carefully moderated and some deleted . Conversely the Guardian banned me almost immediately , but the Telegraph put up wit me , unedited until it went behind a paywall. RT banned me and then allowed me to post freely since they they have let DISQUS handle their comment section
God help him, and God help us all.
The most advanced thinkers in Langley would prefer not to see Julian Assange extradited. They know the more elegant final solution is to drive him slowly insane and leave him no option but suicide (humanely or inhumanely assisted if necessary). thereby obviating the necessity of a “trial” and all the embarrassments it would entail.
Predictably, several moral philosophers in this comments-section are greeting today’s terrible news by pissing on the man as he endures his ninth year of lockdown and awakens to his 976th day in the euthanasia pod. They’re breathlessly repeating the shabbiest and most dimwitted smears they’ve picked up, like mental herpes, in some backstreet ideas-brothel in the redlight districts of The Net.
Like the CIA they pretend so unconvincingly to oppose, these fine scholars will not be content until they see Julian Assange dead.
“Wake up sheeple, his “wife” and “kid’s” and “dad” LOL and that Craig Murry guy and that Rafael Correro dude and that Nils Melser creep, their all in on it, its obvious, there ACTORS , that Real Skeptic News guy PsyWarrior EXPOSED it like years ago , Jew-lyin’ Ass-ange is CIA OBVIOUSLY we are being played, smgdh .”
Did you not notice that’s the exact same type of argument from incredulity used to ridicule truthers and COVID sceptics?
You find it believable that every major world leader, all health officials and all mainstream media can be ‘in on’ the COVID scam, but balk at thinking ex-ambassador Craig Murray and a handful of other guys could be in on creating a little soap opera about Julian?
If indeed they all need to be.
Murray is a flagrant narcissist by the way, whose own jail time was likely just as spurious.
Do you not see how valuable it is for the establishment to provide us with fake heroes to worship whom they quietly steer and control?
Where do you think those fake heroes are? Do you think they just overlooked to create any?
Show us the evidence that justifies your doubts, if you have anything better than Real Skeptic News guy PsyWarrior or Central Information Association for the Defense of Hillary. Provide links to your trusted sources. Let’s see ’em.
This is a challenge to you and every other heroic username in this thread who has taken today’s revolting judgment as an opportunity to piss on the prisoner and his family and supporters.
[cue tumbleweed and silent seething resentment]
Hey. I already did tell people here why I have doubts.
1– My first questions arose over the fact he did not appear in the magistrate’s court in person. That’s illegal and unprecedented. If the accused is too sick to attend court the hearing is delayed until they are well enough.
The fact this was done with no demur from anyone and no mention how strange it was felt fishy and almost as if the proceedings were more performative than actual.
No good reason for his failure was ever required or given.
I began to think maybe the simple truth was Julian was NOT IN JAIL or even in the UK and moving him from his real location to the court was just too much trouble for lazy psyop managers.
2– My second serious doubt arose when the narrative suddenly shifted to include the alleged ‘fact’ Julian had fathered two kids while in the embassy.
This was so TOTALLY in contradiction to the story we had previously been told of his life in the embassy I was gobsmacked and I know others were too.
It stank of the weird reality-challenging flips we see in false flags and fake events.
Where was this woman and her kids before?
We were given blow by blow accounts for years of his visitors and likely girlfriends. Pamela Anderson was the fille du jour back then. Zero mention of any gf popping back and forth, getting pregnant, visiting him while heavily pregnant, bringing a new baby in to visit – and then doing the same all over again.
One of these kids must have been conceived during the time Julian was allegedly in total solitary (remember?) and not even his LEGAL TEAM could see him.
So, I mean – isn’t a ‘huh?’ justified at this point?
If in reality he was being visited by his gf and older child during this period why didn’t the hostile press say “excuse me he’s NOT IN SOLITARY, his supporters are lying, in reality his gf comes to see him and is currently expecting their second child?”
And are we supposed to believe his gf was allowed in but NOT his lawyers?
No. Sorry. There’s no way this suddenly introduced girlfriend can be made to fit with the earlier story we are told.
And that implies we are seeing narrative not reality.
3– The fact all his major supporters/handlers/narrative managers are Lockdown Left or even revealed as sleeper shills such as Pilger
4– The fact that, when I look back I realize that, despite the hype and hysteria, Wikileaks NEVER published a single piece of info that seriously undermined the establishment. Were they really never dropped any info on 9/11? Or did they just refuse to publish?
There – my reasons. Now – why do you think Julian is the real deal?
I also found it curious that one girlfriend has been erased-what happened to Pamela Anderson?-and another appeared with a baby.
Pam was not his bloody girlfriend, what is this thread doing, the work of the CIA with this spinning of bullshit.
Your analysis of Assange’s relationship with Sarah Gonzalez Devant (aka Stella Morris) is sheer nonsense. She was his lawyer assigned in 2015 to preventing his extradition to the US. Their relationship then evolved from professional to personal. When Assange first entered the Ecuadorean Embassy, and for the following few years, he was treated as the guest he was and given as much freedom as he could be in the circumstances. including having as many visitors as he wanted.
This only changed after his ally Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa was replaced by Lenin Moreno in 2017 who was clearly under US ‘influence’. It was at this point that Assange became persona non grata at the Embassy and his life was made more and more difficult. By the time they really restricted his activities and visitors, treating him as a prisoner, he had already had one child and conceived the second (during the late Spring of 2018).
Nothing you say refutes anything I said, in fact you say the very SAME THINGS I said but try to spin it as if you are refuting something.
Yes, you just said what I said but tried to make it sound like you are contradicting me!
Yes, he (allegedly) conceived the second child in late spring 2018.
But don’t you recall Judy – during the late spring of 2018 was when he was notionally in virtual solitary confinement,’dying’, and so strictly confined he was not allowed to even see his lawyers.
So how does that all fit together?
And aren’t you curious why, before the big reveal, NO ONE mentioned this lady or her kids? Even though Julian’s life had open season declared on it by an allegedly hostile press?
They talked about Pamela Anderson back then, remember? Loads of pics of her going in and out the embassy. Loads of jokes, mocking etc. But absolutely NO media ever mentioned this woman going in and out while heavily pregnant, or with a new baby, or pregnant again.
Are you suggesting they didn’t know about her?
Come on, admit it, it certainly looks a bit fishy, no? Like someone decided they needed to jump the shark to keep people interested or something. Pamela Anderson gets dropped at end of Season 10 because audience ratings don’t favour her, and kaboom – new instant family introduced at start of Season 11 even though it has huge continuity errors with the previous narrative.
If you have evidence against this – please share. I want to be wrong.
Whether or not you choose to believe it, the article I linked to covers all the points you raised. It would appear that you haven’t bothered to read it.
Judy, dear lady – do you seriously believe that article is an explanation?
It doesn’t explain anything. It doesn’t even try to. It merely states ridiculously implausible or impossible things with a straight face and watches to see how gullible we are.
They even brazenly admit it contradicts the entire previous narrative! They openly say yeah, it’s so weird because even his family and friends thought he was living like a hermit and could see no one – but now it turns out he was actually fathering kids and being a “hands on dad”.
This is just not real. Real life doesn’t work that way.
Look how ridiculous the story is…
*No one in the embassy knew he was having sex with this woman or noticed she was pregnant or noticed him ‘witnessing the births’ (both of them) via video link?
*The police didn’t see her going in and out of the embassy because the surveillance had been cut due to complaints over the cost?
*The media didn’t notice her either because – well, there’s no explanation given for that. They could notice Pam Anderson apparently but pregnant girl/girl with new baby visiting regularly just passed them by.
Are we supposed to accept this ridiculous story, shrug and say “Well blow me down isn’t life just crazy sometimes”.
Seriously, Judy – you feel this has been ‘explained’? No, it’s been retconned. A new narrative has been added that basically contradicts the old one completely and almost no effort has been made to cover the cracks.
It’s BS. In fact I think Julian and his deep state cronies are just laughing at anyone who tries to believe this crap.
JudyJ seems like a government employee/operative.
She supported the virus myth here over many months. The testing scam. The fake mortality stats released by the government based on the fake PCR test. Supports the Wikleaks Psy-Op. Defended Tony Compo-site Operative-Stalker. She also tried to insinuate the World Bank site pages that showed they had sold and manufactured covid19 tests pre 2020, wasn’t real.
But naturally (how surprising), doesn’t ever question the government and media scams, hoaxes, racketeering or fraud.
While I disagree with Judy on certain things she doesn’t strike me as being an operative. I think you need to be very careful of assigning that label to people. We all think differently and just because someone goes along with the mainstream argument in certain cases doesn’t mean they’re an operative.
You, for example, go along with the mainstream claim of death and injury on 9/11 (as do so many others) while I do not but I don’t think you’re an operative because you go along with that claim.
I don’t think most of the commenters HERE are genuine. They are supporting obvious lies, frauds, scams and narratives that contribute towards the tyranny, people’s impoverishment and the murder of other humans.
They never answer a direct question, they erect strawmen, they have the gall to label those who see through the frauds, CIA (as if there are no contractors, no Freemasons and no other intelligence agencies on earth) and they use a tag team method of attack, that is Troll-Like. They repeat mainstream media narratives as if that’s proof. They appeal to authority, they use ad hominem attacks. And they have multiple identities.
They “support” and defend every controlled opposition entity and the only links they ever leave are disinfo or mainstream media. They are shilling for psychopaths whether it’s out of willful ignorance, abject stupidity, duplicity or the fact that they work in some capacity for the government.
I’m sorry, but the fact that you keep resorting to open ridicule makes you sound like a covidiot whether you mean to or not. Whether or not Assange is a deep state asset, do we no longer have the right to even ask that question? And really, look at the timing on this big announcement that he’s being extradited – are we really surprised he is? Hardly. What “other things” are we NOT looking at by arguing over this?
I am not proclaiming to KNOW anything for sure, but I for one would not doubt the ability of our owners to use false flags and assets to distract and divide. We do know they use limited hangouts to get their message across and to discredit those who question that message, that should be quite obvious by now. Maybe Assange himself cannot truly question the covidiot narrative, but if Wikileaks was truly a dissident site, why would they not do that on their own? Same with 9/11 and JFK. With JFK there really is more than enough evidence out there in the public domain to rightly question what happened then. If the excuse is they’d be putting Assange at more risk, can we really buy that with a straight face while that man sits in prison, as far as we know, and most assuredly WILL be extradited to the US?
How will we ever get to any semblance of real truth if we no longer question? Using ridicule and empty “challenges” to commenters on a blog is hardly presenting any real argument, is it? As for that silent seething resentment, perhaps you are the one full of seething resentment while those who at least question are merely seeking answers? Why does it bother you so personally that some question this narrative?
Thank you for putting a clear case together and defending it. I for one found it very helpful. The Assange Affair has maybe been used for woke anti traditional male agendas too.
I saw the uptick in posts from those here to degrade the space in the manner of Op Mockery or Gordan with an a. A sure sign you are close to the bone.
You are doing this very deliberately and doing this to disrupt these threads. Are you being paid to do this? And when people call you out on your constant reams of irrelevant shite, you immediately play the victim card.
I was polite with you the other day, but no more. I’m done with your bullshit. And 6 months ago you had the fucken gall to say to Admin “you’ve ruined a really good blog”. Nope, take a look in the mirror on that one. Enough.
The importance of this man’s work cannot be overstated.
The Five Eyes it would seem are more than just eyes(and ears).
Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Hopeless subjectivity is the norm.
The pro-lockdown bandwagon has a catchy singalong jingle.
Most peoples’ moral high horse isn’t really that high.
Name one piece of information Julian released that truly undermined the PTB’s narrative.
Funny – no one could name a piece of information, but someone bothered to downvote the simple question
We are not allowed to question certain narratives it seems. While we face down the coming totalitarianism via all things covid, we aren’t really supposed to look at the bigger picture and piece it all together. We are told what to believe and what not to believe, and if we cross a certain line, we too are subject to open ridicule, shaming, emotional manipulation and that good old divide and conquer which works like a charm every single time.
Bingo. The hoaxes are continually being exposed but yet we are supposed to continue to believe whatever frauds and scams the media and government concoct.
All they have is their hysteria and their appeals to authority. They – of course – never challenge the existence of the state on moral or legal grounds.
Was the “war on terror” narrative not somewhat undermined by the “collateral murder” video and the war logs?
Julian Assange set up a system which, although not a wiki, allowed for anonymous leaking of documents. Wikileaks, like wikipedia, is a kind of invention.
The problem though is that by trying to be journalistic and redacting documents i.e. not being an actual wiki, wikileaks is not entirely transparent. Are some leaks not being released on account of Julian’s agenda and world view? Wouldn’t the leaker in this case simply go elsewhere and complain about wikileak’s censorship?
A lack of leaked material relating to issues we would really like to see exposed is not proof that Assange or wikileaks is either compromised or phony. Likewise the inability of Julian to consider the possibility that planes did not bring the towers down is only evidence of a narrow, naive world view. A great many people swallow all sorts of false narratives but can sometimes wake up to one or a few.
Can any of us ever be fully immune to falling for at least some of these ripping yarns?
According to ‘Science Alerts’ (9 Dec 21) ‘A New Type of Omicrom Has Emerged in Multiple Countries.’ There was Omicron B.1. Now there’s also an Omicron B.2.
Is Omicron going to be the mutant that mutates into B52, the devastating Superbug the Covid fearmongers keep warning about ?
Yea for Omicron! I wallow in everyone’s fear.
B.1, B.2 – has ‘covid’ mutated into vitamins. Bill Sardi (LewRockwell site) pointed out last year that ‘covid’ symptoms were very much like those of vitamin B1 (thiamine) deficiency.
I am still holding out for the Broadsword Calling Danny Boy variant. None of this Omicron/Moronic nonsense using Greek letters like college frats.
Because viruses are not real – as described. They are a hypothetical construct; an assumed, invisible microbe, with hypothetical genetic sequences, created using de novo assembly, in silico. No physical particles of viruses have ever been found (isolated and purified) and most essentially, have never been shown to cause illness or disease, or to travel from one human to another.
Germ theory is still entirely unproven. Transmission and contagion of any illness or disease has never been demonstrated in any experiment or study.
The entire field of allopathy is based on monocausal germ theory, which has been debunked since it was first proposed. Allopathy uses patented, small molecules that are toxic and unsafe, and at best repress symptoms and at worst cause iatrogenic murder.
Fraudulent tests are concocted rather than differential diagnosis, to blanket diagnose multiple illnesses (toxaemia) and nutritional deficiencies as viral or bacterial infections.
This is the same MO they used with the AIDS scam and every scare campaign from smallpox to polio and so-called influenza.
I cannot find a single high profile, establishment dissident Assange campaigner who questions COVID totalitarianism.
They have either succumbed to mass formation [see Desmet], or are corrupt.
Look closely at what Assange’s campaign and lawyers have been saying and arguing on his behalf [since March 2018, when he was gagged].- he’s autistic, he’s broken, it’s not about him it’s about “press freedom”, he just wants to marry “Stella Moris” blah blah blah all of it bullcrap, and an utter betrayal of his ideals and philosophy. They ran a pissweak, deceitful legal case against extradition and lost.
“They don’t want that guy talking” opines PR dark arts person Trevor Fitzgibbon – suggesting Assange was gagged so the COVID propaganda op could come into full effect @ 45 minutes -> https://t.co/1xNDpqgkDw
Assange needs his voice back.
Isn’t it amazing how those on the “Left” who have been the loudest in defending Julian Assange, have been either almost stone mute about the medical fascism, police thuggery and blatant apartheid of the covid era, or else they’re pumping out so much fear porn, they actually outdo vile rags like The Guardian. The WSWS is a prime example of this.
Prior to the scamdemic, I was actually helping the WSWS (Socialist Equality Party) in their campaign to defend Julian, including canvassing, leafletting and also attending their protests. Hell, I even bought several of their fecken books and pamphlets, and at the start of 2020, actually applied to join the SEP!!
I had a lucky escape. I completely detached from them and terminated all contact not long after they revealed their true colours as controlled opposition, and had begun their covid cult hysteria. I was rather gullible there, being blinded by my idealism. A lesson learned Megan.
https://www.health.vic.gov.au/media-releases/coronavirus-update-for-victoria-11-december-2021 And today Dan used his nice new dictator powers already, anything to avoid normal life for Victorians. And Sutton is up to his old trick of back counting anyone with a PCR who died, they are all dying from the jabs is the fact of the matter. And look at NSW today, one poor old bastard who survived two jabs against his will quit after the fucking third. https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/pages/20211211_00.aspx
I had seen a couple of posts on FB saying we were going back into lockdown on December 16th, but thought they were half joking.
Of course this is what this deranged prick will do. All those vaccinated Victorians who dutifully got their double jabs thinking things would got back to normal😜
I wonder how they feel now? Will this finally start opening their eyes to the demented pantomime of the entire confected covid crap? Thanks for the links Marilyn.
If he had his voice why do you think he would be questioning covid? He had his voice for years and never questioned 9/11.
Please stop making excuses for the guy. You are correct about the fakeness of his team – but why assume that fakeness doesn’t extend to Julian himself?
“I know the Great Train Robbery was a fake because they just stole the money, not the train, even though the train was worth much more.”
Logic, eh? Where would we be without it.
How does that have any connection to anything I said? Can you explain the parallel you think you see between it stealing a train and suggesting the fakeness of Julian’s team might imply he too is fake?
Stop trying to shift the topic. You know perfectly well I was replying to this:
He only got what he could get.
Did it ever cross your mind that Julian Assange is not Superman and has never pretended to be? That he cannot access all information at will?
Did it ever dawn on you that the most damaging information might be Above Top Secret and not hackable or leakable? That most if not all of it might indeed have been destroyed very shortly after the Enabling Act? That any US government minion who did have any such incriminating evidence about 9/11 might long ago have been bribed/blackmailed/ threatened into silence, or indeed murdered?
Look at how many people they have murdered in cold blood for less, far less, and often for nothing at all.
And look at how they are treating JA himself. (“Butbutbut…”)
US Realpolitik is not a video game. It has real consequences for real people.
Well, even supposing he really was given NO access to 9/11 leaks in all the time he ran Wikileaks, you’ll agree Julian could at least have refrained from dismissing the 9/11 truth movement as irrelevant, right?
But sure, your interpretation might be possible – but so might mine!
You keep using the ‘fact’ he has been incarcerated and imprisoned as evidence for itself and, as a corollary, for his authenticity. But his alleged incarceration is one of the things in doubt and his ‘persecution’ can equally well be ascribed to psyopping.
The point is we don’t really know who or what Julian is or if he is or is not in Belmarsh etc. We are asked to take it on trust, but post-covid I’m not inclined to do that, especially when I see anomalies and contradictions and red flags.
We are told he is locked up and persecuted. But we are told many things that are not true. And look at who is telling us! A bunch of Leftists who have all turned out to be lockdown-supporting frauds and shills!
So, apart from the testimony of people like Murray, Galloway, Pilger etc what evidence is there to support the claim Julian is an authentic truth-teller and authentically incarcerated?
Did his Wikileaks ever leak anything truly devastating to the establishment?
I can’t name anything, can you?
Isn’t there more establishment-challenging stuff on this and similar websites than on Wikileaks?
I would say yes, wouldn’t you?
So, we have a big flagged media presence for a leak site that mostly leaks chicken feed and mediocre stuff.
We have the owner of the site dissing 9/11 Truth and being supported by Rothschilds, shills and fakes, and given awards by the Economist.
It looks dodgy doesn’t it.
Which is why I am these days NOT CONVINCED he is really in solitary in Belmarsh or was ever really imprisoned in the embassy.
Can you give me good reason to shelve my doubts?
You are like a worthless broken record
And yet you can’t even bring yourself to address a single point I make, instead you resort to ad hominem and ridicule. Why is that?
They got John Lennon in the end.
I dont hold much hope for Julian.
Riddle me this?
Wikileaks is supposed to be the devil to the US government yet Wikileaks twitter site has NEVER been taken down and it was a main place for all their data dumps in 2016
They are selling t-shirts on there as I write this and FUND RAISING. Omg, any true opposition won’t even be allowed to POST.
Sorry but I was kicked off their for posting on too many feeds
You mean to tell me they won’t block Wiki when Hillary Clinton associate founded the site
Wiki is just a honeypot to trap whistleblowers and many people know it.
Sorry but god, this one isn’t even hard. (and Assange playing his Dad was just too much guys…be better).
God talk about paranoid rubbish.
Do you have anything to bring to this beside explosive rudeness?
What facts persuade you Julian is real?
What has Wikileaks revealed that exposed any serious government lies?
Why do you think no whistleblowers ever dumped data on them about 9/11?
Or do you think maybe they did but Wikileaks refused to publish?
Legit questions, no?
You’ve misspelled it ‘Peter’
Should be Bump-kin.
Assange is undoubtably a narcissist, control freak, headline hunter, nerd and chauvinist, but sadly, that’s what it takes to go up against the establishment.
Do you recognise any of those traits in yourself?
Plenty of genuine people go up against the establishment every day without this media circus ensuing.
There is more establishment-destroying information on this site and on UK Column and other such places than ever appeared on Wikileaks.
By the way, has Wikileaks had anything to say about covid?
Assange playing his dad? Nope love, you are using reverse psychology and weak arguments to troll for Julian and his roadshow of ‘persecution’
Exactly! Read my comment above and Peterkin’s points. Anyone who has offended the censorship on Craig Murray’s blog knows there is something totally fishy about the Assange narrative.
Honestly Tony shut the fuck up no cunt gives a flying fuck about your little pissing diatribes man
The five eyes countries and isn’trael are the biggest threats to mankind
well, in recent times we have maybe observed peasant/proles catapulted into comfortable afforders. All the social engineering aside, one gets the impression “comfortable” breeds degeneracy??
5 eyes lead post industrial decline (longevity) yet seem to propagate the most wasteful wastes of wasted existence through its cohorts, we’re not even talking materialism here, just the spoilt, hollow souls.
a failed experiment ? a furious pyre showing how things can go so wrong?
fuck knows. sick of this 5eye world anyway : z
Worth a read: Introduction To The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert Kennedy jr.
‘The Fauci Generation, born since he took over as head of the NAIAD in 1984 – the sickest generation in American history.’
‘The manufacturers inserts of the 69 vaccine doses list each of the now common illness – some 170 in total – as vaccine side-effects.’
Only medical personnel get to read the inserts…
Let me know when he stops pushing testing which drives the cases and cures for a disease of attribution to other cause, will you?
OG needs to end guff like this, please.
i’m all for a good story but this blushing free lovely shite has to stop, utter boak. arguably creepy.
that’s before i’ve even considered my best friend sophie’s remarks!!
we cannot say yae or nae freely, but mocking tone drivels at will…..?
da fuk OG?
Why do you pull this ‘Look at me’ shit here but not other forums?
I can only guess they’d boot you off if you did.
Would the mods please have a word with this clown.
This nauseating guff has to stop.
I’ve noticed him doing the same thing occasionally at John Ward The Slog as well… But here he knows he can get away with it.
He’s everywhere, like a disease, a disruptor. I don’t know why Off-G tolerate it.
They’ve warned him how many times now? 30? 40? More? I lost count ages ago. He’s just laughing at them, and deliberately disrespecting the site:
Tony Operation Mockery. I was taking a break from here for 4 or 5 days, but popped onto the thread out of curiosity, and then saw his posts… And just went😠.
I wish they would just ban him outright or at least try and scrub his posts, or just have them all pending, forever.
Tony Operation Mockery is a great name and probaly means just that. 😀
I find it so strange that some of the same people here shaking their heads about the normies who can’t see through the covid psyop are totally captivated and unquestioning about the Assange narrative, even though it is pretty full of holes
Like Wiki selling t-shirt and fundraising on Twitter and the site allowing Wiki to use it as their central platform to break ‘leaks’ Its so beyond obvious – dressing up like Dad was painful to watch-
How many of us have been kicked off Twitter for posting anything that goes against the narrative?
(many of us get it, I think people have moved on and they have lost a BIG part of their audience)
Speak for yourself, you are just a fucking troll.
Madam you are behaving far more like a troll than anyone else on here.
And you are a pompous prat. Never been seen before on Off-G but now trolling for all you’re worth against Assange. You’re not fooling anyone except, it seems, that Rose idiot, but then it could be just you by another name, smelling equally as bad.
Instead of trolling me and downvoting everything I say why not counter the points I am making? I’m willing to be wrong if people can show good reason.
We’ve yet to see any proof that “Peterkin” is not employed by Langley to slander political prisoners, stir shit online, and waste honest people’s time endlessly
Oh great. Perfect. You ask for facts. I post my own personal overview for why I changed my mind about Julian. You have no response so decide to just call me a Langley bot.
I have been reading OffG for years. I support them financially. I sent money to Julian’s campaign. I have never commented before true – because I never felt I had a view to offer that wasn’t covered in the article or by other commenters. But no one seems to have picked up on the points I see regarding Julian, so I weighed in.
I’ve seen your comments often and agreed with them. Expected more from you than this frankly.
Look, Peterkin, you have to realise that people will tend to get a little testy about this topic, especially today after this terrible news. All the questions you raise are very easily answered and have been answered on this thread and elsewhere. See JudyJ’s response about Stella M, for instance.
(If you want to find all replies to your posts, use “search in page” for your username.)
The media are dangerous liars and fearmongers, yes. That doesn’t mean that incessant doubt about literally everything is rational, defensible, or a productive use of your or anyone else’s time.
You seem honest, though, so I wish you all the best.
Oh no, not the “I already answered your questions elsewhere” ploy. I expected more than that.
No, Pat, you DID NOT answer the questions AT ALL, let alone “very easily”. And neither did Judy.
Neither of you have so far produced a single explanation or refutation for any of the questions or points I raised.
In fact you entirely AVOIDED RESPONDING to my reply to you wherein I gave you the facts that had caused me to change my mind about Julian.
You asked me for the facts, predicted I wouldn’t answer, and when I did you ignored me!
There is obvious ambivalence about Julian’s story. Questions need to be asked. I hope you find the courage to face this.
I think it was mark twain… it’s much easier to fool a person than to get them to admit they have been fooled…
unfortunately this is one of the strongest underpinnings of the ‘convid psy-op’… many of the great and good have now been exposed as state agents… such strain is sometimes too much to bear by those followers afflicted by hope…
thus it becomes impossible for those individuals who have committed themselves to a particular narrative to assess new information that contradicts that said narrative …
you can see the same dynamic with the ‘followers’ of the orange imbecile trump, who made much of assange and clintons mails to get himself into the shite house..
and how his followers can’t see him as a bought and paid for zionist prevaricator… pushing an agenda.. who would force toxic injections on them and leave them to rot in prison…
it is quite obvious most media pantomime exists to dissipate any useful call to action…and induce fear and apathy..
none of this ends until people become their own heroes..