AUDIO: Iain Davis on Perspective with Jesse Zurawell
Iain Davis joins Jesse Zurawell on Perspective to talk about his recent article “Putin’s False Flag” which produced a lovely debate here on OFFG plus a massive and unexpected troll influx
This is part one of the interview, the second part airs tonight at 7pm UK time on TNTRadio live.
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Do you remember the “I support the current thing” meme? This was about the seamless replacement of the Covid narrative with the Ukraine narrative. But this replacement meme was, itself, a constructed narrative. It was just as much a narrative as “nazification” and “biolabs”; and it was promoted by many of the usual suspects. All these narratives were pre-prepared and ready to go!
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-support-the-current-thing
I Support The Current Thing refers to a catchphrase often paired with the NPC Wojak character to mock people on social media who change their profile pictures to include symbols or filters that show support for a particular movement or ideology, which some deem as slacktivism. . . . The earliest known posting of the NPC Wojak badge was . . . on March 1st, 2022. . . . On March 14th, 2022, Tesla CEO Elon Musk reposted the image . . .
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/Hh9dg2V4JAiU/
No-Go Zone: Ukraine, Who Is To Blame?
Red Ice TV
March 3, 2022
Henrik covers the situation in Ukraine and who is to blame for the escalation that lead to war.
[Note; it’s a long video, with lots of references, but the most relevant part to this post is in the first 15 mins or so]
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Henrik (6:25): “Ukraine did everything it could to antagonise Russia”.
Yes, he’s correct; it’s as though it was a false-flag psyop!
The effect of the “current thing” meme is to lead people into believing that all these events are of equal, bullshit value. But what if they’re trying to hide one of these things within a smokescreen of all the others?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/i2eWDyv4mT8e
No-Go Zone: Using Buffalo Shooting to Target White People & Who Pandemic Treaty is NWO Actualized
May 19 2022
#REPLACEMENT #BUFFALO #WHO
Red Ice TV
@1:45 – Airplane “Get a Hold of Yourself!”
Woman (I’ve gotta get out of here!) = Our Collective Focus
Line of people (Calm down. Get a hold of yourself) =
1. Covid
2. Ukraine
3. Will Smith
4. Men can be women
5. Climate change
6. Cyber attacks
7. White supremacy
8. Gun violence
9. Jan. 6
10. Fresh Bullshit
“Alright, there we go;” says Henrik
Did they get at you, Henrik?
On the Buffalo “shooting”: The bodies are not even cold.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/i2eWDyv4mT8e
@2:50
Which is literally true, of course, given that nobody was shot. But it’s clearly misdirection, nonetheless.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ice
Red Ice is a white supremacist[6] multimedia company led by the married couple Lana Lokteff and Henrik Palmgren. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has described Red Ice as being important in the YouTube alt-right radicalization pipeline, further radicalizing people tentatively on the far-right and having “a history of embracing white supremacist rhetoric and talking points”.[7]
Products and content
From 2002 to 2012, the main focus of Red Ice’s content was conspiracy theories such as aliens, 9/11, the Illuminati, and Freemasonry. In 2012, the outlet shifted to concentrate on ideas of race, and especially to the idea of the white genocide conspiracy theory in response to what the couple perceived as “anti-white sentiment” coinciding with the Black Lives Matter movement.[8][1]
History
In 2002, Henrik Palmgren started Red Ice in Gothenburg, Sweden.[9]
In August 2017, Henrik Palmgren said that hackers had taken down the Red Ice website and were going to release names of 23,000 subscribing members. This event occurred alongside the hacking of several other neo-Nazi and alt-right platforms. On other hacked sites at the time, the actions were claimed in the name of the decentralized group Anonymous.[1]
In April 2019, comments and monetization were disabled by YouTube on a livestream of a House Judiciary Committee hearing hosted by Palmgren and Lokteff due to commenters’ use of anti-Semitic slurs, white nationalist memes, and derogatory remarks about women in the hearing.[12][13]
In June 2019, Red Ice’s YouTube account was demonetized due to YouTube’s recently expanded policy guidelines, which prohibited videos “promoting or glorifying Nazi ideology,” spreading Holocaust denial and rejecting “well-documented events” like the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[14] In October 2019, Red Ice TV’s YouTube channel was banned by YouTube for hate speech violations. The channel had about 330,000 subscribers.
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So now you’re pushing memes and talking points which serve the Khazarian genocide in Ukraine!
Jesse Zurawell is the worst interviewer out there. He just rambles his worldview for about 60% of the runtime before getting to something resembling an actual question, and by then it’s time for an ad break.
Here’s a hint for him; a good interviewer knows when to STFU up and let the guest (you know, the person the audience is actually there for) do the talking.
Look all authoritarians have done and do ghastly acts, this is nothing new and dissent is always a healthy tool and must be encouraged for the sake of sanity.
All systems are governed by oligarchs and plutocrats who constantly lie and propagandise all information. History however is not a tennis match but context is vital to all understanding of events. We would all be better off with real democracy but as no revolution is at the moment going to take place we have to swallow evidence whether we like it or not. The West and Russia are both guilty of political manipulation, deletion, murder, without even blinking an eye.
If this article had been a critic of both sides it would be regarded as a masterpiece, it failed to do this but it was essential to educate readers, who virtue signal Ukraine as a bastion of democracy and that there are good nazis too. The murder of people in the Donbas started 8 yrs ago. To see Nato backing such embedded national socialism is the epitome of a dumbed-down society whose hatred for Russia knows no bounds.
A balanced critic is essential if Trivium tenets are followed – both sides now otherwise the force of logic is depleted and it again is black hats and white hats battling the polemic.
We have published literally dozens of critiques of NATO, the US, UK, EU. The site was created in 2015 to address the dangerous anti-Russian bias in western mainstream reporting of Ukraine and we have been regularly accused since then of being Russian agents, and are described as such in at least one “fact checking” site.
So, if you think this ONE piece that looks at potential Russian government involvement in a false flag needs “balance”, you can find it by reading our extensive archive
The whole shebang started with the ‘Orange revolution’ of 2003/04 an attempted coup if ever there was one. The next (successful) attempted coup started in Independence Square 2014. This time all the big guns were rolled out by the latter-day including Banderist riff-raff, Right Sector, Svoboda C14, the Aider and Tornado irregulars and the and their western supporters: The same old faces turned up: Vitoria Nuland, the Soros foundation (OSF), the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) Human Rights Watch (HRW) and so forth. This was in essence a US/NATO operation. The Ukraine-Russia war actually started in 2014. Prior to this Putin had laid down his marker in the Bucharest summit (2008) that Russia was not going to lay down in front of the NATO steam-roller and be rolled-over the eastern Ukraine along with the Don Bass militias who were covertly supported by Russia’s military.
Yanukovic, who had been the legitimate President of Ukraine, was deposed as a result of the coup, and his former finance secretary – Poroshenko – took over, without an election of course. Unfortunately for the Kiev crowd the Ukie army was routed in the two cauldrons in the Don Bass at Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo in 2015. After this there was the tedious farce of trilateral talks between the Ukrainians – who were not particularly interested in a settlement, and who were supported by the French and Germans on this issue. But there was still the open question of NATO’s longer-term strategy. Namely, I’s relentless expansion to the east and the planting nuclear tipped rockets in Poland and Romania,and Georgia right on Russia’s borders.
Not wishing to be kicked up the arse again, the Ukie Army regrouped, rearmed, and tried to take the Don Bass for a second time. Massed in front of the Don Bass region in the far east of Ukraine and having been prepared with an army of approx 100,000 army – including those lovely people from the neo-nazi units – were getting into position to invade the Don Bass. Putin was not going to let this happen and pre-empted the Ukrainian-NATO operation. The Russians went on to the offensive on 25 February.
In doing this Putin was sending a message to Ukraine/NATO – no more Eastwards expansion; no more stationing a hostile army on Russia’s borders; no more a hostile American war machine and NATO equipped with nuclear tipped missiles 5 minutes flight time from Moscow and St.Petersburg.
And this is where we are at present. I have to say that the whole issue was forced upon Putin and Russia given the fact that Ukraine-NATO were openly and relentlessly expanding eastwards with a war in mind. That has been on the cards since from the early 90s until 2014 and the present day (2022).
so nayone who disagrees with this bullhist nionsnese gets labeleld a troll. like the CIA calling out those who expsoe thema s conspiracy terrorist and those who expose Pfizer as anit vaxxers/ pathetic Ian has lost all credibility with this propaganda
Not at all, as we said in our Telegram post that we also published here –
“We must emphasize – this is quite separate from the legitimate comments by people with legitimate and well-argued objections to Iain’s article. These contributors are always welcome and healthy, open debate is encouraged – which is why we are reluctant to enforce registration or any form of filtering process in those who want to vote or comment.”
Thanks for your contribution
that guy needs a spellchecker
This still has less than 10k views; and half of them are probably because of adverse responses by people like Caitlin Johnstone. Given that Pompeo is quite possibly the person currently directing the war for the future of humanity, I agree with Johnstone that it’s “worth taking a look”. However, we seem to take opposing sides in the conflict. And I also disagree about notions of “US empire”; believing that the U.S. is still a semi-occupied nation.
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https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/06/30/mike-pompeos-revealing-hudson-institute-speech
Former CIA director and secretary of state Mike Pompeo gave a speech at the Hudson Institute last week that’s probably worth taking a look at just because of how much it reveals about the nature of the US empire and the corrupt institutions which influence its policies.
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Michael Pompeo: War, Ukraine, and a Global Alliance for Freedom
Jun 24, 2022
Hudson Institute
Putin’s war on Ukraine is a pivotal event in post-Cold War politics; this unjust war seeks to annihilate the existence of a free and independent country. What does this portend for world democracies? How does it impact America’s ongoing top strategic priority that centers on the existential threat from China? Why should a machinist in Wichita or a schoolteacher in Des Moines care about what happens in the Donbas?
Hudson’s Distinguished Fellow, the 70th U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, will deliver a major speech to answer all these questions followed by a conversation with Distinguished Fellow Walter Russell Mead.
Transcript:
https://www.hudson.org/events/2122-virtual-event-war-ukraine-and-a-global-alliance-for-freedom62022
Really? a Covid believer? Bye.
He must have caught the virus from Drosten’s computer.
There is another “fake binary” in play here which the fake binary proponents seem not to have picked up on; and therefore go about their merry way oblivious to it.
That unnoticed fake binary is simply that either the Ukraine incident is a real war or it is a pretend war. And yet, there is no reason it cannot be both at the same time.
Mr Putin could be carrying forward a global agenda – and also using that agenda to gain territory for Russia.
Remember this (the most important lesson of all): geography is real and is what it is. If Ukraine’s geography is such that it is a territory worth fighting for and claiming – which is, unfortunately, the basis of all human “civilization” – then it must necessarily fall into someone’s “camp.”
So what if the globalists gave Putin the go-ahead to take Ukraine? Once taken, it will be in the Russian camp; and Putin’s star will shine all the brighter for it – and perhaps give him a bigger chair at the global table.
After all, even the globalists are still human (kind of anyway) and therefore constantly jockeying for position.
Good point
”Mr Putin could be carrying forward a global agenda – and also using that agenda to gain territory for Russia.” Like Russia is a bit short of territory!
I believe the Ukraina have been Russia’s borderlands territory (Kiev Rus?) for a thousand years or so.
My favourite passage in The Cherry Orchard: “We would listen to the holy bells from Kiev to Moscow, we would tramp and tramp. Wouln’t that be splendid!”
Kievan Rus, from WikiPedia.
The modern nations of Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine all claim Kievan Rus’ as their cultural ancestor, with Belarus and Russia deriving their names from it. At its greatest extent in the mid-11th century, Kievan Rus’ stretched from the White Sea in the north to the Black Sea in the south and from the headwaters of the Vistula in the west to the Taman Peninsula in the east, uniting the East Slavic tribes. According to the Primary Chronicle, the first ruler to start uniting East Slavic lands into what would become Kievan Rus’ was Prince Oleg (879–912). He extended his control from Novgorod south along the Dnieper river valley to protect trade from Khazar incursions from the east, and moved his capital to the more strategic Kiev. Sviatoslav I (943–972) achieved the first major expansion of Kievan Rus’ territorial control, fighting a war of conquest against the Khazars.
“if the globalists gave Putin the go-ahead to take Ukraine …”
… it would give a new answer to the old question, What is the height of ridiculous?
Oh look – you again
Alexander Mercouris reports from the real world. Putin warns that while the West is gaining its propaganda war, Russia is regaining its Ukraina:
https://youtu.be/BItJp9sguc8
The “real world” – 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you OG for being brave enough to challenge all the blue pills and not just the safer ones. This is why I come here. Thanks to Jesse and Iain too.
Convid
So Mr Davis has been testing himself for convid ? Disappointing.
The Abe “shooting” looks a bit fake!
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=9YH2YRNK31N8
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=57WNB6HHOGG8
I removed all those bizarre pro-Ukraine propaganda videos as they are very fake-seeming and add absolutely nothing to the subjects discussed in the podcast. This is also quite OT btw.
This was the reply I drafted to the question “what’s the point?”
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There are two radically different perspective. That coming from the pro-Putin camp is that Ukraine has effectively lost the war. See Macgregor interview:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1ghxwaXDAMvT
July 6, 2022
Sky News Australia 7/5/2022
douglasmacgregorTV2
Vladimir Putin is ‘not going to withdraw’
Former advisor to US Secretary of Defense Colonel Douglas Macgregor says Russian President Vladimir Putin is “not going to withdraw” from the Ukraine conflict.
Colonel Macgregor said Mr. Putin was never interested in all of Ukraine.
“He’s not going to withdraw, that’s out of the question,” he told Sky News Australia.
“The longer this lasts, the larger the probability of a wider regional war.”
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However, the perspective from the pro-Ukraine camp is the opposite; that it’s just a matter of time before the Russians get driven out of Ukraine. And this will probably include Crimea.
My view is that the pro-Ukraine position is far more likely; and the difference in strategies and weaponry is the major part of the reason. The Russians have deployed a traditional “quantity” based approach; i.e. lots of tanks and non-guided shells. Whereas the Ukrainians have deployed a strategy based much more on quality; i.e. focussed insurgency and guided artillery.
Man, you are just falling for that fake binary. Why do you assume either side is out there to “win”? What’s obvious to me is this “war” is a smokescreen. I think there’s damn good evidence it’s token. If Russia had wanted to roll in to Kiev they would, like Putin said back in 2014.
Think about it. This war has totally obliterated the realization Putin is taking the same line as the West on globalism. The “conflict” has mesmerized everyone into thinking they are in a Cold War again. So from the POV of the globalists this is great as they have divided us and distracted us.
Look at UK Column, Duran etc etc – they have totally fallen for it and are promoting Russia as good guys battling evil!! Oblivious to the fact both sides are introducing globalism!
Crazy!
I suggest they will keep this war going indefinitely as a great stalking horse, smokescreen, distraction. While behind the scenes they continue working closely to bring us all globalism and bug burgers.
Eurasia at war with Oceania
I’ll sumarise it.
The agenda is to create a New Israel – by relocating the high-tech part of the current Israel to five oblasts in southern Ukraine. This agenda will have been under consideration for at least a couple of decades, but it picked up in the early 2010s.
The grabbing of Palestine for the current Israel required the launching of the first and second world wars; so it’s possible there could be a similar level of push for the relocation. Indeed, the propaganda exceeds that for covid. Also, it’s far better quality; and hence less obvious. And if there is an order of priority, it is that the covid psyop serves the New Israel project, rather than the other way round.
Remember, the covid psyop was used to remove Trump; Fox called Arizona for Biden ridiculously early; Netanyahu was one of the first to congratulate Biden; and Trump has stated that Putin would not have invaded if he’d still been president. In short, they needed to get Trump out of the way.
The New Israel project includes the 2014 coup; the supposed “Nazification” of Ukraine; false-flag atrocities; the war against Donbass; the election of Zelensky; and the fake 2022 war launched by Putin. It includes western corporate media spinning a variety of supporting and contrary narratives; and it includes a host of “alternative” media and personalities providing support or validation for Putin. But most media people are clueless as to what’s really going on. It also includes the pumping up of Dugin-esque blood & soil, “mother Russia” garbage so that ordinary Russians can be duped into fighting.
With regard to the Feb 24 invasion, it was supposed last about a week or so; the Russians would bomb random crap spread throughout Ukraine; they’d take Kiev and other major cities; there’d be no meaningful resistance; and Zelenksy would negotiate terms which involved giving up southern and eastern Ukraine.
However, selected elements of the Ukrainian military had been trained and equipped to fight a defensive operation; e.g. stay-behind and drone warfare. This has also been supported by real-time intelligence (think US Space Force etc). Putin was not expecting this resistance and the result has been massive losses for the Russian forces. Additionally, the Ukrainian forces have recently started deploying GPS guided artillery and rockets. And now the US is about to deploy the 101st Airborne etc; see:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/29/deafening-drumbeats-for-war-biden-sends-more-u-s-troops-to-ukraine-border-101st-airborne-deployed-six-destroyers-to-mediterranean-f-35-squadrons-to-u-k
I agree with every part of that except the stupid New Israel part and the “massive losses” part, which sound like they’ve been grafted on to discredit the otherwise truthful version.
What the heck does “new Israel” even mean? It’s just dog whistle words to attract antisemites and provide a way of discrediting anyone who questions the reality of the conflict.
And massive losses? Oh come on! First show me any proof the Russian army is even there!
Some other poster was asking for that proof a while back, far as I know no one produced any. Sure, plenty of evidence for small groups of DPR in old Soviet era equipment, zero evidence for the professional Russian army.
Nah mate. All that is bollocks. The simple truth so far as I can see is the war is as fake as the pandemic. Virtually no one is dying apart from a few civilians who get in the way.
It’s like a slomo 9/11. Both “sides” go in and blow a lot of infrastructure up and then Putin’s and Biden’s homies get fat contracts to rebuild. Think they care how many little people die as a result? Sure they do, like they care how many die of the vax.
I’ve been posting on the New Israel project for the last month or so, but there’s a lot of links under the following article:
https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/09/ukraine-what-comes-next
With regard to anything else in your post, I couldn’t be arsed.
You couldn’t be arsed or you have no answer? Troll
Your concern is to play gatekeeper, hence the simultaneous accusation of antisemitism while calling me “mate”. Also, there’s a lack of obvious interest in the subject matter. Have you posted on this anywhere before?
A New Israel is the most plausible explanation for whatever is going on in Khazaria. Bidet’s gift of $40 billion could have probably have cancelled the debt of the entire “third world”. However the arsehole chose to send it to Khazaria.
Why is a New Israel even a little plausible?
Damned clever these Russians. They can actually make themselves invisible. BTW The Ukies are invisible dug in outside of Donetsk and shelling both the downtown area and the western outskirts. A number of Russian civilians have been killed including some children. I suppose these are also fakes.
I was a visitor to Donetsk for a number years between 2006-2012 so I have long-standing friends with whom I communicate on Skype, so I know what’s going on. I can assure that these are real people, and not invisible.
“Netanyahu was one of the first to congratulate Biden… In short, they needed to get Trump out of the way.”
Trump was somehow anti-Netanyahu? Can I have some of what you’re smoking?….
There are so many people playing roles that it’s impossible for us to know which side people are on. For instance, I think Pence and Barr are both on Trump’s side; whereas Netanyahu and Putin are Rothschild puppets. The New Israel project is a Rothschild agenda; and Netanyahu and Putin are following orders. However, the Trump team, which includes Pompeo, has a Christian Zionist agenda. They want Israel to stay largely in its current form, but with normalised relations to other countries in the region.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/08/25/pompeo-israel-christian-zionism-republican-national-convention
Pompeo’s Christian Zionism takes center stage
Analysis by Ishaan Tharoor
August 25, 2020
Pompeo’s visit to Israel is part of a multicountry tour during which he appears set to build on the newly announced normalization of ties between Israel and the United Arab Emirates. But his short speech to the convention from the historic King David Hotel will reinforce the Trump administration’s unequivocal embrace of Israel as a partisan prop. Pompeo is likely to tout the Israeli-Emirati breakthrough as evidence of Trump’s new approach to the region, though the real force of his appeal may be directed to right-wing Christian Evangelical voters, like himself, at home.
During a stump speech last week, Trump said his decision to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem was “for the evangelicals.” Both Pompeo and Vice President Pence count among a leading rank of Christian Zionist politicians in the United States, who link matters of geopolitics — whether confronting a regional nemesis in the theocratic Iranian regime or helping Israel extend greater control over the Holy Land — to biblical prophecy and revelation.
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https://nypost.com/2020/11/08/israeli-pm-benjamin-netanyahu-congratulates-biden-on-win
Nov 8, 2020
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu congratulates Biden, thanks Trump
His message came hours after other world leaders and some Israeli ministers had extended their congratulations to the president-elect for his win in the 2020 race over Trump on Saturday.
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/fck-him-in-interview-trump-rages-at-netanyahu-over-congratulations-to-biden
Dec 10, 2021
‘F*ck him’: Trump rages at Netanyahu, claims he saved Israel from destruction
In new interview, ex-president complains of former PM’s lack of ‘loyalty’ in congratulating Biden; says had he not quit Iran deal, ‘Israel would have been destroyed maybe by now’
”However, selected elements of the Ukrainian military had been trained and equipped to fight a defensive operation; e.g. stay-behind and drone warfare. This has also been supported by real-time intelligence (think US Space Force etc). Putin was not expecting this resistance and the result has been massive losses for the Russian forces. Additionally, the Ukrainian forces have recently started deploying GPS guided artillery and rockets. And now the US is about to deploy the 101st Airborne etc; see:”
Is this supposed to be military analysis or geo-politics? Words fail me. Don’t mess with those Ukrainians, they have been inflicting ”massive losses for the Russian forces” Yeah, of course they have, the, Americans even gave them a squadron of flying pigs to finish off the Russian air force. That’ll show them Ruskies.
It’s based in part on what the Khazarians are fretting about. And it follows the kind of logic associated with receiving flak when being over the target; or if a person protests too much; or with gatekeepers protecting the most important gates. It’s not a perfect guide to truth, but it’s far more reliable than Occam’s razor.
A further interesting phenomena is that of seemingly incongruous alliances; and in this case, a lot of supposedly conservative or alt-right voices are effectively on the same page as the Davosian left. They may spin the stories slightly differently, put the outcomes they push are essentially the same. For instance, Revolver News gets many of it’s Russian invasion articles from Moon of Alabama; or with Henrik Red-Ice dissing “The West” and “The Liberal World Order”. It all seems a bit contrived.
With regard to the current situation in Ukraine, the Khazarian Treehouse is fretting about the U.S. sending military aid; so when I apply the logic of inverted psychology, I conclude that sending such aid is likely to be a good thing. And with regard to defeating much of the initial invasion, it seems that the Khazarians have recently rediscovered history. For instance:
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/brzezinskis-proxy-war-playbook
Brzezinski’s Proxy War Playbook
by Patrick Macfarlane
Jun 22, 2022
Zbiegnew Brzezinski (July 2014):
If Ukraine has to be supported so that it does resist, the Ukrainians have to know the West is prepared to help them resist. And there’s no reason to be secretive about it. It would be much better to be open about it and to say to the Ukrainians and to those who may threaten Ukraine that if Ukrainians resist, they will have weapons. And we’ll provide some of those weapons in advance of the very act of invasion. Because in the absence of that, the temptation to invade and to preempt may become overwhelming. But what kind of weapons is important. And in my view, they should be weapons designed particularly to permit the Ukrainians to engage in effective urban warfare of resistance.
https://news.yahoo.com/cia-trained-ukrainian-paramilitaries-may-take-central-role-if-russia-invades-185258008.html
CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades
Zach Dorfman – National Security Correspondent
January 13, 2022
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials. The CIA-trained forces could soon play a critical role on Ukraine’s eastern border, where Russian troops have massed in what many fear is preparation for an invasion.
“The Russians have deployed a traditional “quantity” based approach; i.e. lots of tanks and non-guided shells.”
Yes, they think they are still fighting WW2 against the Nazis:
Hitler (taped recording): It was not my fault we lost. Our experts assured me it was impossible for any country to manufacture so many tanks as the Russians rolled out at Kursk.
Dear or Dear. Get this.
”However, the perspective from the pro-Ukraine camp is the opposite; that it’s just a matter of time before the Russians get driven out of Ukraine. And this will probably include Crimea.” Yeah and pigs might fly.
Mike Pompeo (Jun 24, 2022):
I last had the privilege of meeting with President Zelenskyy in January 2020. How different the world seemed then. But unlike the presidency that the Trump administration followed, America did not hesitate in supplying Ukraine with weapons, such as the Javelin, which broke the back of Russia’s armed advance to Ukraine’s capital. I looked back at this as I was preparing for this speech, at the joint press conference with President Zelenskyy. Your nation’s heroic president thanked the Trump administration for our support of Ukraine in the war and the Donbas and your efforts to reclaim Crimea. A war for freedom now rages in Ukraine, it demands that we speak with absolute candor and with unlimited certainty of purpose.
Let’s start at the beginning. Ukraine must be free and freedom requires strength and dignity. To be secure, Ukraine must always be a sovereign, not constrained by another nation’s territorial incursions or influence. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is an inflection point in the post-Cold War politics. John referred to my time as a young soldier, then serving on the then East German border. Here we are, that border still challenged, the European front attacked. So what does this say? What does this portend for Europe? How does this war affect Russia’s affiliation with China and that country’s actions with respect to Taiwan? And what lessons must we draw for our security and for our freedom throughout the entirety of the world?
What looks fake about it? Are you suggesting he’s not dead? I see nothing in particular that screams fake.
What should have focus, imo, is the motive and any potential conspiracy around the reason he was targeted. Maybe it’s just a disgruntled ex defence worker or man with mental illness. Or maybe someone wanted Abe dead.
We’ve been told so far, that the shooter believed that Abe was part of some organisation that he had issues with. But the organisation and issues remain hush hush, understandably at the start of the investigation.
On the face of it, this victim doesn’t match with the ambitions of Gaddafi or any socialist South American President, for example, so I’d take an early lean towards a disgruntled and possibly deluded lone gunman.
Those security people need another career though. Terrible. Assuming of course that there was no ill intent on their part.
Abe’s only reaction to the first shot is to turn round to see what’s going on; and that may have been a reaction to the shift in attention of the crowd. With the second shot, he appears to react to the visual of the blast; and then to the air blast hitting him in the face.
What i to know is “What role did Putin have in Boris Johnson’s downfall ?”, and “Did Putin order the assassination of former Japanese PM Abe ?”
There is a famous line from one of the speeches of Sergey Lavrov:
”If you are not able to explain anything in world politics, best blame it all on Putin. They will do it anyway. ”
“Corporate Fascism is Grand Theft Robbery on an Industrial/Global Scale.” .
It is also a Crime Against WE THE PEOPLE (Humanity).
“The War Racketeer Corporate Fascist OIigarch Mobster Psychopath Nazis need to go, NOW!”
Back in 2017 exact same thing would happen if you dared mention Mr drain the swamp hasn’t drain f*ck all.
The trolls and save the children ( 📌 wonder what they think now)/ Q warriors and conservatives would go apeshit.
AS Putin uses the same MO just like Orban and many others not surprising the bots were out in force.
They are fighting the deep state……
Netherlands is largest exporter of agricultural produce to the rest of Europe. No wonder they have blacked out the Dutch Tractor Resistance in Spain & France!
First they tell Europe “Famine is coming.” Then they tell them Netherlands is being forced to cut back all their animals? Kind of “looks bad.”
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How do you recognize trolls?
Thanks.
It’s mostly rather obvious. At least I find. Often trolls are quite transparent about it. They’re there to disrupt, not have a meaningful exchange. It’s a simple MO that’s as simple a social cue to spot as, say, a tone of voice or a person’s body language. Why do you ask? A2
Seeing as you peruse a lot of comments, I thought you might have picked up some ways to recognize them – beside the obvious. Thanks for responding.
Well you’re a troll, that’s obvious 😄
My question would be whether you classify someone as a troll for posting a strong opinion running contrary to OffG’s editorial stance – which it must have? I cannot understand why you gave airspace to Iain Davis, who is so clearly “anti-Putin” that his prognostications are of little value. I’m not interested in listening to him arguing to justify them any more than i want to hear what those airheads in Brussels have to say about Russia and its leaders.
If you want an answer to what is happening in Ukraine and why only one side is the belligerent, look no further than Maxim Grigoriev’s catalogue of Ukie war crimes, continuing today as their fire missiles at Gorlovka. Each one of these attacks directed at civilians delegitimates everything NATO powers are doing.
May I politely suggest that you should always remain interested in listening to anyone argue to justify themselves, if they take the trouble to do so cogently and articulately. Otherwise you’re part of the problem. Let’s keep our minds open, shall we?
For example (and not speaking for Davis or off-guardian, but only for myself) when it comes to Russia’s continued – eagerly downplayed – role in the great reset agenda, isn’t it only fair to ask questions about the true character of those embroiled in the biggest, most blatant globalist scam ever?
I myself have also questioned the peculiar nature of some of the footage coming out of Ukraine, and other peculiar features of this ‘ongoing’ ‘special operation’ which so conveniently eclipsed the dying Covid narrative. I’ve asked myself on more than one occasion what the true scale of this conflict actually is, or whether a certain amount of ‘Wag the Dog’ isn’t taking place.
Those, of course, are my questions and I speak only, as I say, for myself. I simply point this out to illustrate that this is a forum to raise such reasonable questions and share such unbiased, respectful perspectives. Those wishing to police that process should ask themselves why they’re trying to police it. Asking questions is never, ever, a bad thing, is it?
I also feel we should choose our heroes wisely and be skeptical of ALL who played along with the pandemic narrative.
Surely keeping an open mind involves shifting one’s perspective as the world around us changes, otherwise how relevant is our perspective? A2
I see the bots are still auto-downvoting all admin posts. You obviously are doing something right 😄