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9/11 Archives: “Why 9/11 Still Matters”

Catte Black

Republished as part of our 9/11: From the Archives series, where we revisit some of OffG’s best 9/11 articles over the years for the benefit of our post-Covid audience.

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On 9/11 2001 three steel-framed high-rise buildings collapsed completely at near free-fall speed allegedly due to fires – which, if true, makes them the only steel-framed high-rises in construction history to have ever done this. Only two of these buildings had been struck by planes.

The official explanation for this event is that Moslem terrorists somehow confounded all the usual security procedures and ‘attacked America’ because they ‘hated our freedoms.’

This version of the meaning behind 9/11 was the catalyst for the perpetual war currently being waged, the ultimate fail-safe irrefutable argument to silence criticism of the Patriot Act, Guantanamo and the creeping emergence of fascism in the Western world.

A narrative as crucial as that needs to be closely examined, but the mainstream media has not only failed to perform this function, it has successfully persuaded many intelligent people that it doesn’t need to be done, and that only lunatics would bother subjecting the official story to any examination.

Eighteen years ago the idea of large scale false flags or government deceptions may have seemed absurd to most of us. But the unraveling of so many official narratives in recent years; the lies over WMDs, the lies over Ghouta, the lies over Libya and Ukraine, the repeat evidence for wholesale manipulation, if not fabrication, of events to promote war, means it ought to be impossible for any thinking person to simply take the events of 9/11 on trust any more.

How can any of us continue to question everything 9/11 has brought us, but not question 9/11 itself?

It all comes down to some very  basic questions:

  • Has the government sufficiently explained its version of events?
  • Does this version fit the observed facts better than any other?

The fact this is still considered by so many intelligent people to be an “out there” thing to ask speaks volumes about how much even the most savvy of us are currently brainwashed.

But beyond the media silence, complicity and ridicule things are changing.

Today New York first responders are launching a campaign for a new inquiry into the events of 9/11.

A new scientific study finds fires did not bring down WTC7.

The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry are working on behalf of victims’ families to get justice for those who died or were injured that day.

The phrase “conspiracy theorist” is an empty meme invented to deter enquiry. We don’t think this is a good thing and we don’t intend to be controlled by it. We believe facts really should be sacred – however unpopular they may be and whatever label someone may have attached to them.

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Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Sep 13, 2022 6:14 PM

I’ve always thought that the attacks weren’t planned as such but maybe known about as ‘likely’. The towers were attacked in the 90s and although the bomb used was large enough to cause significant damage it didn’t destroy the towers so they were thought likely to survive a terrorist “fly a plane into the tower” type attack. The attack itself using airliners full of fuel hitting the towers at speed was unexpected but following the rule of “never letting a good crisis go to waste” proved to be a godsend as it enabled the passage of the Patriot Act with minimal scrutiny of its provisions. (Anthrax helped the process along in case there were any waverers in the Senate.) Its pointless to argue that the attacks ddin’t take place. There’s enough amateur video and security camera footage to indicate exactly what happened to the twin towers and the Pentagon. (Tower… Read more »

TDj
TDj
Sep 14, 2022 10:05 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

For someone of your nature, in this day and age, 21 years later, professionally, Martin I’m just stunned and my jawdropped at your lazy non-sensical apathy over the WTC7 and the whole Interconnected nature of the glorious bastard institutions of mass corruption & war & Central banking & heyho Don’t give a Fuk… I’m shocked & disappointed, but never surprised today… 81 STEEL COLUMNS 2.2 SECONDS FREEFALL A VERTICAL DESCENT & WITHIN ITSELF KNOCK THREE TIMES ON YOUR SKULL !!! Repeat after me. Even there was evidence of Geo-engieering of an electronic nature, with the highest orders of Electronic Magnetude and Corporate Culpability & LEGAL Liability Inc. Governmental institutions Playing God, from the day after Rumsfeld announced “we just lost $2.2 Trillion$” Bucks, onwards, Martin, seriously you the nation need to sanction yourselves, First & FAST ! before other’s nations rise & sanction the U.S.A. Note the apostrophe . Sad… Read more »

TDj
TDj
Sep 14, 2022 2:35 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Apologies, silly me. Repeat after me.

2.2 TRILLION BUCKS
2.2 SECONDS FREEFALL
81 STEEL COLUMNS
IN VERTICAL DESCENT
& WITHIN ITSELF,
KNOCK THREE TIMES
ON YOUR CEILING
SKULL & CROSS ✝️ FINGERS
EVERYTHING EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING your apathy ever
needed to know, will be RESOLVED

Sad Salomon Brother ? !

TDj
TDj
Sep 14, 2022 2:54 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Martin: has choices.

I have chosen.

Trust one’s logic . . .

TDj
TDj
Sep 14, 2022 3:46 PM
Reply to  TDj

Ten Seconds Flat.

1O SECONDS FLAT !

10 seconds Martin.
Mission impossible?
Seriously ? !

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 13, 2022 12:21 AM

The “no planes” theory may be true in the cases of the Pentagon false flag exercise and the faked crash of flight 93 in Somerset County. However, it is not true of two planes which did, indeed, crash into the World Trade Center locations.

Excerpted from the sited article:

There were several NORAD exercises planned for 9/11: Vigilant Guardian and Vigilant Overview, both command post exercises (CPX), and Amalgam Virgo and Amalgam Warrior, which were field training (or FTX) exercises. All four of these exercises were CJCS approved and sponsored by CINCNORAD Eberhart.[38] Apollo Guardian was also running on 9/11. This was an exercise conducted by the U.S. Space Command, meaning Eberhart was in control of that too.”

The Case Against Ralph Eberhart, NORAD’s 9/11 Commander
January 12, 2013
The Case Against Ralph Eberhart, NORAD’s 9/11 Commander | Dig Within

Read the article carefully.

New Name
New Name
Sep 13, 2022 4:45 AM

Hijacking The physical evidence rules out plane crashes at the twin towers. Also consider the problems the 19 boxcutter brandishers would have faced in hijacking the aircraft, obtaining the controls,orienting themselves in terms of their geographical locations and cockpit layout and then accurately navigating the planes to their targets. No hijacker in history has obtained the controls. The pilot would know he may as well die fighting off the hijackers rather than surrender the controls. None of the hijackers were instrument rated. VFR flight is not permitted above 18,000 feet. Did they disconnect the auto pilots and hand fly the aircraft ?. General aviation pilots are unaware of features like yaw dampers without which it is extremely difficult to hand fly a swept wing aircraft which has an intrinsic instability known as Dutch Roll, a combination of pitching and rolling. The presence of 4 airliners in the most crowded airspace… Read more »

New Name
New Name
Sep 13, 2022 8:02 AM
Reply to  New Name

Actually Dutch Roll is probably a combination of Roll,Pitch and Yawing. I believe this motion can make even airline pilots sick.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 13, 2022 5:28 PM
Reply to  New Name

There were no (foreign) hijackers involved. The entire operation was performed utilizing remote controlled autopilot. The subject planes did not match the stated flight numbers. See Operation North Woods.

TDj
TDj
Sep 14, 2022 4:30 PM

Paul: Don’t anger yourself, I have a screenshot of how ‘official’ Civil Radar Records can be manipulated @3am last Saturday morning, from Nato territory over Russian territory to Shanghai. Only to later ‘officially’ show that OS75 flew over Azerbaijan…
Which it most definitely did NOT…! AFTER MH17 !!!
This flight to China, from Vienna, flew directly over…
Sevastopol/Yalta region of Crimea & onwards directly over the
Bridge of Kerch, North of Krasnodar onto Kazakhstan, Mongolia 🇲🇳
With secure passage.
Nowhere near Ukrainians.
Think.German. Bundestag.
& gas cap. Adjust
Your Radar.
Regards,
TDj

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 13, 2022 7:07 AM

Paul, I haven’t followed it closely enough to know whether there were planes that struck the towers, but they CANNOT have been the stated passenger jets simply cuz it’s physically impossible for them to fly at those speeds except at a much higher & thinner altitude. And the films we were shown are not of the actual event because actual films would’ve disclosed the discrepancy. I don’t know if they were fighters or camouflaged missiles or other mock-ups.

This documentary agrees w me on the matter, and is extremely well-researched:
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=167

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 13, 2022 7:16 AM

Paul, there’s a great deal more than just this one man’s participation. Do you know about Cheney’s inserting himself into the chain of command? If memory serves, he was actually on the Pentagon lawn helping to clean up the remains of what struck it. I suppose to prevent news of what it was from leaking out. However the size & shape of the hole spoke for itself.

The good thing about the link I’m pushing is that it sticks very close to ascertainable fact– it’s a true documentary.

Regards,

Claret
Claret
Sep 13, 2022 1:53 PM
Reply to  Penelope

‘Do you know about Cheney’s inserting himself into the chain of command? If memory serves, he was actually on the Pentagon lawn helping to clean up the remains of what struck it.’
…..
Was it not Donald Rumsfeld? Hilarious anyway….then they put on their gardening overalls and cut the grass,whilst half the world was in uproar. haha.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 13, 2022 5:34 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Yes. Dick Cheney was strongly instrumental to the success of the operations.

More evidence:
9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!
Published on Oct 31, 2012

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 14, 2022 7:31 AM

Fantastic link, Paul. Thx

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 13, 2022 7:28 AM

There are numerous inconsistencies with the WTC planes too. Apart from the impossibilites of the flight, consider what could and could not be seen after the “crashes”:
https://off-guardian.org/2022/09/11/9-11-archives-on-the-physics-of-high-rise-building-collapses/#comment-539563

rraa
rraa
Sep 13, 2022 3:25 PM

There is almost an hour of live footage of that day of reporters wandering around the towers after the explosion but before the collapse asking people: did you see what happened? If a huge airplane smashed into a building right above your head, believe me, you would not be dawdling around the towers so blithely.

There were no planes at the twin towers and certainly no plane crashes.

The original footage of the second tower explosion contains no plane in the first few minutes. Then the footage was replayed that day with a cartoon plane silhouette disappearing behind the tower just before the explosion. Filmmaker Ace Baker showed in detail how it was done.
Had a real plane of any kind crashed into the towers, there would have been a disaster scene on the ground outside the towers in addition to inside.It’s not rocket science.

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 12, 2022 7:31 PM

I had MY epiphany in 1963 while in a library reading history books by men who’d been educated before I was born. And then they killed John Kennedy and I was able to watch the entire op, the media, the cover-up, the public response– all from the viewpoint of an already-awakened mind. It was an education which provided context for 9-11: On 9-11 I was homeless in my car at a rest stop near Oceanside, CA beside Camp Pendleton. An Asian friend came up.   “Do you have your radio on?” “No.” “Two hijacked planes hit the Twin Towers in New York, and both buildings fell down.” “You mean ‘bits fell off of them’. The whole building couldn’t fall down.” “Well, that’s what they’re saying.” “Impossible. Consider the difference in mass. Those buildings are an entire block. I’ve been in them.” “Well, the burning jet fuel affected the steel girders and that’s why they fell.” “The… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 12, 2022 7:08 PM

PENTAGON re 9-11 by commenter Chipnik on MoA [He wrote this years ago]:  a fully loaded fully fueled commercial airplane full of 100s of passengers (they claim) performing a 270-degree spiralling dive at near mach speeds and with multiple g’s, at far, far above known and tested airframe capability for flight speed at sealevel altitude:density, coming in at 500knots and only 50, then 25 feet above the deck, which neither any commercial pilot nor any fighter pilot for that matter says they could achieve, before slamming into 12-feet thick blast-resistant solid concrete Pentagon, at exactly the location of the Congressional DoD looting records, and blowing a gynormous hole almost completely through the ring but without any burning fuel, without any wings sheared off, without two massive engines smoking in the rubble, without a giant tail section on the lawn, and magically, all the passengers and all their luggage ‘vaporized’ the… Read more »

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 12, 2022 11:34 PM
Reply to  Penelope

All absolutely true and verified by numerous sources. It is one thing for the civilian public to be asleep at the switch. But there are no excuses for failure of the legal classes to investigate and indict the perpetrators.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 13, 2022 8:37 AM
Reply to  Penelope

And all of the cctv for the most militarily sensitive building on Earth was switched off.

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 13, 2022 10:09 PM

Clutching– Oh yeah, forgot about that. All the TV cameras were off. Fancy that!
However, the press got some good pictures of the hole this “plane” made.

https://old.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=167

DVD 2 @13:09

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Sep 12, 2022 4:08 PM

Flight 800 and 9/11 have much in common.

If either happened the way the gov’t says they happened, changes would have been made in skyscraper and airplane design.

After Flight 800 –— the Air France flight brought down off Long Island by a missile, according to hundreds of witnesses on the beach, on boats, on planes — the gov’t issued recommendations to be made to the center fuel tank. But the inquiry into Flight 800 was the only NTSB investigation not to have determined the cause of the accident. How can you make modifications if you don’t know the cause?

And what changes have been made to skyscraper design since three buildings fell in NYC?

What changes were made in the design of, ahem, Freedom Tower?

Berserker Screed
Berserker Screed
Sep 12, 2022 3:13 PM

https://jamesperloff.net/911-and-beyond/
If anyone would have had the power to assassinate the President of the United States, it was the Rothschild Zionist Establishment. Michael Collins Piper’s book Final Judgment, linking Israel to the Kennedy assassination, got a strong boost in 2004 when Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu stated that Kennedy was assassinated over his opposition to Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

If anyone doesn’t understand that Israel, along with cooperative American Zionists, were 9/11’s architects

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 12, 2022 3:09 PM

Everything the public failed to notice, subsequent to planned demolition(s) at the World Trade Centers THE 9/11 READER. The September 11, 2001 Terror Attacks Global Research September 11, 2022 THE 9/11 READER. The September 11, 2001 Terror Attacks – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization The New York Port Authority had performed an extensive survey of trade center facilities several years prior to the event. The structural integrity of ALL buildings detailed no structural flaws, whatsoever. ALL buildings were incredibly well designed, and completely functional. The “bombing” event of 1994 had no effect on structural integrity. However: There were recommendations that the site needed asbestos abatement and numerous design upgrades within a few years of the survey date. The estimated cost was astronomical. Larry Silverstine purchased the entire complex from the Port Authority six months prior to the demolition – which was convenient… The destruction of financial… Read more »

RegretLeft
RegretLeft
Sep 12, 2022 6:57 PM

“… destruction of financial data…” very good point! So often overlooked in, call it, Israeli/mossad centric 9/11 thinking. There may be a very good reason why the predominent foreign exchange firm in NYC – Cantor Fitzgerald – was “taken out” on that day – 102nd fl (I think) in one of the towers – no one survived. What happened next after virtually all SEC rules and controls were suspended in the days following? What criminal evidence sets housed in FBI offices in WTC 7 were destroyed? (Just asking, as they say!)

“It’s never one thing” – a very valuable heuristic.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 12, 2022 11:46 PM
Reply to  RegretLeft

Yes. Destruction of evidence was a major goal. >

Excerpted from: 911 Illusions: Part II: Deutsche Bank & Blackstone

“On September 10, 2001 at the Chicago Board Options Exchange there were 4,516 puts on American Airlines to only 748 calls. United Airlines was targeted for 4,744 puts as opposed to 396 calls. The numbers on the reinsurance companies were similarly lopsided.
By far the biggest trader of the put options was Deutsche Bank Alex Brown- the US trading arm of Deutsche Bank- which bought traditional Eight Families’ wealth repository and largest Four Horsemen shareholder Banker’s Trust in 1999 to become the world’s largest bank with $882 billion in assets.”

There is more: 911 Illusions: Part II: Deutsche Bank & Blackstone | Politics | Before It’s News (beforeitsnews.com)

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 12, 2022 1:14 PM

How best to approach any event that is obviously a psyop Ask: “What do they want for real?” Experience shows me that in psyops (as the name suggests), they do what they want for real and fake the rest. Even if they could do certain things for real quite easily I believe they always prefer to fake it. In psyops they take pride in duping us and the more the propaganda is removed from reality the better it works. Yes, I know I’ve quoted it numerous times but it always bears repeating. The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponds to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for… Read more »

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 12, 2022 4:07 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

HYPOTHETICALLY, if 9/11 was an occult ritual, what would it symbolize? *What would it represent in terms of magick ritual if there were two pillars, and those pillars were destroyed, and then in their place only one pillar was built, but next to the one pillar were like these square within a square pools? *The plane numbers and the building numbers are also important. There was United flight 93, World trade center number 7, soloman building. *Let’s say that the towers are representative of 1 + 1, then having flight 11 crash into tower 1 on the 9th of september, 111 days before the year’s end, is symbolic of the closing of the Aeon of Horus; *The plane that hit the Pentagon was American Airlines 77 (AA should be obvious, here’s what The Book Of Lies says about 77 and 11 – “7, the septenary; 11, the magical number; 77, the manifestation,… Read more »

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Sep 12, 2022 9:12 PM

‘Bush was reading My Pet Goat to a bunch of kids at the time’ That is not correct. The truth is far more disturbing. Bush wasn’t reading any book. (Even The Pet Goat is above his reading level.) Bush was listening to kids reading another book when White House aide Andrew Card whispered into his ear, “America is under attack.” Bush continued to sit there for approximately two minutes til the story ended. Then the teacher started another book — The Pet Goat — and instead of using that opportunity to take his leave — “Sorry, kids, but as you know, the president has many responsibilities….” — he actually continued to sit there and listen to kids reading The Pet Goat! Also noteworthy: this was a publicly announced visit to the school. Bush has been told America has been attacked by kamikaze planes — he’s among a bunch of kids.… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 13, 2022 7:33 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Petra, I’ve always assumed that what they wanted for real is the war against the middle east for which 9-11 was the pretext. You may be right about the humiliation of asking us to believe the unbelievable. However, there is an element in the belief system of TPTB w which you may not be familiar: They believe that if they tell us what they are doing to us that his disarms karma against them. So you see, events are probably not meant to be fully believable. Also, that if they tell us what they’re doing and we don’t act to stop them that this proves that we are willing victims, or that we recognize their superiority and the justice of their being the ones who choose what happens to us and to the world. Many years ago I studied them & their belief systems, but I had to quit; it… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 13, 2022 8:32 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Penelope, I’m aware of the karmic repercussion thing … the thing is though they wouldn’t hold to the karmic motif if laying the truth out hidden-in-plain-sight style before us didn’t work, would they? If there were a commensurate lack of credulity among the people the more unbelievable they made their stuff, they wouldn’t be able to apply their karmic motif BS. It just so happens that the more ridiculous they make their propaganda the better it works … so that makes it convenient for them to justify what they do with their karmic BS. It’s just like the way people in religion use certain things in the bible to do whatever. Whatever it is in the bible might not be meant to be used that way but people will exploit whatever it is for their own purposes. … or that we recognize their superiority and the justice of their being the… Read more »

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Sep 12, 2022 12:13 PM

Watch (and share far and wide) the powerful 9/11 documentary “Calling Out Bravo 7”, the film questioning the official 9/11 narrative (Big Lie), produced by firefighters:

https://onenessofhumanity.wordpress.com/category/videos/documentary/calling-out-bravo-7-the-2020-edition-9-11/

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 12, 2022 2:28 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Yes. Excellent presentation. I reviewed it when first released. Highly recommended.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 12, 2022 8:18 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Thanks, excellent video highly recommend.

Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Sep 12, 2022 11:37 AM

SWISS – “DOES YOUR NEIGHBOUR HEAT THE APARTMENT ABOVE 19 DEGREES? PLEASE LET US KNOW!”

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Johnny
Johnny
Sep 12, 2022 12:50 PM
Reply to  Thinktwice

Whatever happened to Heidi of the Alps?
Didn’t she learn anything?

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 12, 2022 9:33 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Do they take a thermometer around with them whenever they visit somebody…?

Claret
Claret
Sep 13, 2022 1:59 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes, the latest swiss army knife has a thermometer.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 12, 2022 11:34 AM

When Trump gets elected he will open the files and do a investigation.Donald Trump to Reopen 9/11 Investigation if Elected 2015.
You watch…..

PaYriots in control;

Trust the plan…….

TDj
TDj
Sep 13, 2022 2:05 AM

In your Dreams !

When, were you born, YESTERDAY 🤣! Seriously ?
What a novice withinin automated intelligence !
Unless you work for Steve Bannon,
You are utterly clueless of reality,
let alone Science.

Q: why did your Trump card NOT have
Any interest in THE SCIENCE of
STEEL FRAMED STRUCTURES, until now ?
When you or/and your ilk possess such constructions ?

2.2 seconds FREEFALL !
81 STEEL COLUMNS.
IN VERTICAL DESCENT.
& within itself !
10 seconds Flat.

WERE I TO OWN SUCH STRUCTURES
I would have been worried after the very first seconds
Of watching JANE STANLEY reporting in ADVANCE of
THE conTROLLed DEMOLITION…
You dumb CUNT!
REGARDS TO STEVE.
Must try harder…

BRING IT ON !
21 YEARS LATER…? Please johnny BOY
When I understood
Professionally
Watching LIVE,
WITHIN 3 (three)
SECONDS !!!
21 years ago …
Fuk off johnnyboy.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 13, 2022 10:14 AM
Reply to  TDj

Donald Trump to Reopen 9/11 Investigation if Elected is what he said in 2015.

Payriots used to be a truther word for patriots which beleived any old shite.

Trust the plan

When he gets elected he will arrest hillery…

You dumb C8NT! as sarcasm isnt your strong point.

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TDj
TDj
Sep 13, 2022 10:58 AM

Brilliant response johnnyboy, I promise you, I SINCERELY cannot stop myself roaring with laughter lmao 🤣 I’ll continue shortly, but must quickly dash to do something more important.

In the meantime, perhaps you could explain the purpose of your wholly unoriginal comment, numerically. You know the one that triggered me to trigger you out of your shell, you greasy snail 🐌 🎶 I love eating snails…

Just for clarity, did you type 9/11 and then ‘purely n’ accidently hit
The send button ? Poodle 🐩 pip. I’ll be back,
In no time…

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 12, 2022 11:16 AM

The grand theatre of 9/11 was frankly inevitable to the ruling parasitical mindset. Their media rules through anxiety. It always has – though previously (i.e. pre-covid) in a fragmented way (oh the good old days!) Brian Eno once compared this “low level” psycho-terrorism to a fire hose where the water has to be kept at a certain pressure so that it is ready for use. Granted that Eno was talking about the US but it was also prevalent to a degree in the UK and throughout most of the Western world. Gore Vidal has an excellent essay (significantly titled “The Last Empire”) detailing the origin of what he called The National Security State whose entire aim was to grudgingly throw some fairly large crumbs to the plebs (the largest any civilian population had ever received) whilst working carefully to manufacture an air of all-pervasive fear centred mostly of course on… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 12, 2022 11:34 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Well stated George and we shouldn’t forget the ‘wars’ on drugs, cancer and poverty (The latter being the most perverse).

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Sep 12, 2022 9:59 AM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2022-09-11. 400 Drs, Profs declare international medical crisis due to jab injuries, deaths. Troubling silence COVID babies https://twitter.com/paulrprichard/status/1569052546261553156

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 12, 2022 9:37 AM

Off topic but this is curious:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/swiss-social-media-abuzz-over-rat-out-your-neighbor-energy-use-posters

“As Switzerland takes drastic measures to reduce its gas use this winter – including fines and up to three years in prison for citizens who violate new regulations, a viral poster circulating on Swiss social media telling citizens to rat out neighbors heating their homes above 19C (66.2F) has raised eyebrows.”

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Except, it’s fake.

According to Energy Department official, Simone Hug, the federal government has nothing to do with the poster.”

This seems the crucial point:

” the fact that so many people believed that the post was real comes as no surprise ….”

The “satirical”poster follows the logic of the narrative. And only goes to emphasise the “post modern” atmosphere in which truth and falsehood are no longer clearly distinguishable.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 12, 2022 10:48 AM
Reply to  George Mc

So how about this?: The govt. – or, more likely, some shadowy tendril of it – manufactured the poster. The poster creates the inevitable anxiety, the govt denies they had anything to do with it (and if the shadowy tendril theory is correct, they can do this with perfect sincerity), and the whole thing is revealed as a “hoax”. But by that time the scary meme has been sewn as the whole of Swiss society (and every other) drifts closer to the world suggested by the “satire”.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 12, 2022 11:40 AM
Reply to  George Mc

three years in prison………………..?

Your from U.K George..?

Environmental agency staff can kill you and not get charged.
They can do it with immunity.

Law brought in last year..

Beat that.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Sep 12, 2022 8:04 AM

The whole point of 9/11 was to make thinking people understand that the way power elites justify killing a million blameless foreigners is to kill a few thousand blameless citizens of the home country first.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 12, 2022 9:08 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Don’t you think, Rhys, that a priori when a big psyop is perpetrated on us it will involve layers of duplicity? Don’t you think that the perps will obviously anticipate the small percentage of the population who won’t believe their nonsense and have a propaganda campaign targeted to us?

If you don’t think that layers of duplicity will be involved can I suggest you need to consider what you understand of psyops.

So assuming there is a propaganda campaign targeted to the anticipated disbelievers, what is it for 9/11?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 12, 2022 10:12 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

I think one main point of the false-flag, Rh, was to make the citizens of the home country hysterically pliable to war propaganda; which – predictably – they became. They also accepted the previously-written ‘Patriot’ act, which has been holding them in thrall to the rabidly anti-democratic deep-state authoritarians ever since.

The 11/9 scam was all about enabling the Swampies’ global-domination fantasies, by kicking the ‘home’ states’ rank and file populaces compliantly into line; with the covid scam, and its tryout scamdemic predecessors since 11/9, as further kicks in the same direction.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 12, 2022 12:53 PM

Pliable to war: IOW, stop moaning about lack of facilities (infrastucture and services) at home because there is so much for the military-industrial complex to do.

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 12, 2022 7:38 AM

9/11 is the falsified incident which has the most evidence to expose it. And, incredibly, sufficient evidence is present in the govt/media’s own coverage! Airplanes are much too fragile to accomplish what’s shown. One airplane is shown flying through the exterior skin of a tower, leaving the FULL OUTLINE of its shape upon the tower, cartoon-fashion. Then the plane continues through the structure with its nose momentarily protruding through the opposite side of the tower. This snippet of film is obviously made up & rather inexpertly. In real life the cockpits of planes are reinforced– so that they can withstand birdstrikes! That’s right, large birds are a menace to the structural integrity of the cockpit. Plane wings could not possibly have cut through the building. They would’ve crumpled, their rivets would’ve failed, they would’ve fallen from the plane. The cartoon outline of the plane with outstretched wings cutting through the… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 12, 2022 12:56 PM
Reply to  Penelope

The video of the plane nose sticking out on the opposite side seems to have been broadcast only once.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 12, 2022 2:10 AM

There are a number of “other” versions and certain questions tend to challenge the most common “other” version. 1. Who do you think it more likely had responsibility for bringing the buildings down? The Dancing Israelis caught in a road block with explosives dust in their white van or the company that removed the rubble, Controlled Demolition, Inc, owned by the Loizeaux family? 2. Assuming it was Controlled Demolition, Inc, were they asked to go against their normal professional standards of ensuring evacuation of the buildings (seemingly, 7,000 structures demolished without a single death or injury) or were they told, “Hey, guys we’re just going to leave the people in there. This time it’s different.” 3. As there was seemingly much damage caused to other buildings in the WTC due to the destructions of WTCs 1 and 2 were these buildings evacuated before the twin towers came down? If so,… Read more »

theobalt
theobalt
Sep 12, 2022 2:53 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Interesting thing about that white van story. It differs than mine. The next day (or maybe the same day), I saw on the news yes “dancing so called Israelis”… They were parked in an open garage (few stories up) and were out of their van, maybe 5-6 of them, and watching the crumbling of the towers in the background… dancing and cheering. I didn’t dream this. Anyone? (Sorry if this is old news, I don’t tend to “follow” the 9/11 stories anymore)

J A
J A
Sep 12, 2022 4:46 AM
Reply to  theobalt

hm, I think… maybe I heard of something like that? 9/11 was before my time.

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 4:48 AM
Reply to  theobalt

If you dreamed it, so we had almost the same dream. They were ecstatic, not just clapping and dancing.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 12, 2022 5:39 AM
Reply to  theobalt

They tend to push out different versions of their propaganda stories – in fact, now I cannot find evidence of the story with explosives dust mentioned but I know I saw it and I found that story at least as late as 2014 because it was only then that I woke up (or semi-woke up) to the true nature of 9/11. I do have a fondness for the Dancing Israelis story because it totally suckered me in and it is only in hindsight I realise how ridiculous it is. The perps would have engaged in so much knee-slapping over their ridiculous individual 9/11 propaganda stories. My awakening to the true nature of 9/11, that it was a Full-Scale Anti-Terror Exercise pushed out as a real event rather than an “inside job” per se, occurred as probably the most visceral epiphany I’ve ever had in my life – perhaps the only… Read more »

TDj
TDj
Sep 12, 2022 1:58 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

At least your final sentence is somewhat more objective . . .

Derek
Derek
Sep 12, 2022 10:20 PM
Reply to  theobalt

No you didn’t dream it at all.


Edwige
Edwige
Sep 12, 2022 8:59 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Nice attempt to build up to your “nobody really died on 9/11” claim (like your “nobody really died at Pearl Harbor”). 1) They sometimes fake deaths – agreed. 2) There are problems with the official death toll on 9/11 – agreed (2996 is an obvious 11/9 encode and research has shown some alleged ‘victims’ appear to have been used twice). 3) The ‘right’ sort of potential victim was evacuated or never in the buildings in the first place – agreed. 4) The planes were empty and had been switched for drones – possibly, even probably. What about the passengers? I wouldn’t rule out that their identities were ‘cut-outs’ or otherwise ‘in the club’ with access to booking controlled at source. It would certainly explain the oddity that planes at peak times on peak routes were 3/4s empty and the likes of Barbara Walters just happened to be onboard. The messages… Read more »

TDj
TDj
Sep 12, 2022 10:26 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

You really are getting on my NERVES AGAIN ! YOU STUPID YOUNG GIRL !

You were informed YEARS AGO, during your previous Tedious endeavours, in the name of
FLAXGIRL: FREE YOUR MIND from the OBVIOUS PSYOP and start connecting the
Dots between the whole content of WTC7, which was the only GOAL !!!

Please please please me, just for once , no more shit sherlock !
Dig your stylus out of the groove Ms.Dj PETRA/PSYOP!
YOUR RECORD IS BROKEN & BORING …

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 12, 2022 12:23 AM

The ‘other’ 9/11, and the lengths that the TPTB will go to:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2022/09/the-other-9-11-and-the-time-i-gave-a-lecture-at-mit/

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Sep 11, 2022 11:18 PM

Most of the sheep would rather risk sand in their eyes and a kick up the arse than to risk being called a ‘conspiracy theorist’. One rabbit hole is usually enough for most people. Some, if not most, cannot seem to be able to juggle several theories in their heads at any one time and watch TV. They get confused and find it all too tiring. They prefer to get their cues from Corrie or Knobenders. The bbc, god bless them, left us one on the biggest clues with building seven. The one Silverstein said he wanted ‘pulling’ for the insurance. I would like to think that the bbc did us a favour but the chances are they simply messed up the timing of their broadcast. When i first started to post comments online i obviously didn’t want to use my own name. I was going to use the alias… Read more »

Muggles
Muggles
Sep 11, 2022 11:02 PM

And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 11:9

Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem.

Daniel 9:11-12

lit-nat
lit-nat
Sep 11, 2022 10:54 PM

hot tubs and heart attacks
go and get your money back
creamy knolls in L.A. poses
the bill of goods they sold is wack
my whole team’s stacked
patent leather shoes and spats
in beijing it’s mayhem
social credit system
digital currency doledrums
and no time to relax

J A
J A
Sep 12, 2022 4:47 AM
Reply to  lit-nat

Unless you LAY FLAT, lay flat

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 11, 2022 10:11 PM

Off topic again but C J Hopkins has a go at the psychologising of that Desmiet guy as well as dissing the sheep/shrew thing:

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/mass-formation-hypnosis-disorder?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Sep 11, 2022 10:49 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Boring…

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 11, 2022 11:30 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George, thanks for posting the link expressing CJ Hopkins doubts about the “mass formation” hoopla. It’s nice to see there’s at least ONE other person who finds this “explanation” largely BS. I find no evidence of this syndrome among the many people whom I engage in conversation.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 12, 2022 11:24 AM
Reply to  Penelope

It went viral via the shill control op alt media. HEEEEEELLLLOOOOOO..
To say it was bullshit the minute it appeared was controversial on platforms like this yet hear you are (not just you calling bullshit a year later) betcha the forum comment boards authors mods etc will eventually pretend they said it also.

Just to reiterate It went viral via the shill control op alt media and if any thing happens like that again and it will call bullshit the minute it comes out.

Like Ceo bullshitter Yeadon or delmony inventor of what a load of Malony nothing who got the double jab to make sure and all them types as they will lead the lost a stray.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 11, 2022 9:43 PM

Off topic but some headlines are such crass hyperbole that you already know they are bullshit without checking:

“Putin is finished. The Ukrainians have him on the ropes with a stunning victory in their sights”

From Hydra Head no. 4357

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 11, 2022 11:32 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George, here’s a “bit” on the current fighting:

Mercenaries from the American private military company Blackwater, whose fighters participated in the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, fight in the Ukrainian army. The attack on the Russian military in Kupyansk may involve militant groups from the US military company Academi, formerly renamed by the better-known name Blackwater. Foreigners can also be seen in pictures of Kupyansk.

http://www.elespiadigital.com/index.php/noticias/historico-de-noticias/38764-2022-09-10-12-52-00

CK_
CK_
Sep 11, 2022 9:41 PM

TPTB got away with 911 and that emboldened them to implement the COVID Hoax!

Violet
Violet
Sep 11, 2022 8:24 PM

9-11: The Rothschild/Lauder connection.

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=133318

Tigerlily
Tigerlily
Sep 11, 2022 9:52 PM
Reply to  Violet

You know that saying…it’s not what you know, it’s who you know!

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 12, 2022 1:56 AM
Reply to  Violet

Interestingly, 110 or so years ago, in a series of lectures about the Apocalypse of St. John, Rudolf Steiner mentioned the Rothschilds – especially the four who travelled from Frankfurt to Vienna, Naples, Paris and London – as having a genuine talent for banking. No – he didn’t hint that they were ‘The Four Horsemen’, although I wouldn’t rule that out entirely… He even tacitly praised their talent, since their influence in banking had a personal enthusiasm as well as raw talent behind it. Then he mentions how this personal element was gradually lost over succeeding decades, to the point when in his own day, (this was in 1909 !) capital was already beginning to control itself through the creation of stocks and shares, and had therefore potentially become a force for great evil in the world. Reading that, I was reminded of a line in “Terminator II”, where Skynet… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Sep 11, 2022 8:20 PM

Lack of accountability leads directly to the extreme mess we have now

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 12, 2022 2:02 AM
Reply to  Steve

And we still don’t seem to have the faintest idea of how to hold our ‘representatives’ to account…
A diligent person can often clear up messes that others have made, so why can’t we clear this one up too…?

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Sep 11, 2022 7:29 PM

In short the DELUSION of the herds of MMS/3i’s went up in smoke…

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But the funnier thing is that the herds of MMS/3i’s didn’t notice… or cared (the ones that noticed!).

Ort
Ort
Sep 11, 2022 10:24 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! Goddamn you all to hell!

New Name
New Name
Sep 12, 2022 7:18 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Hot Pyroclastic Flows

Those were hot pyroclastic flows. The photographer who allegedly captured “UA 175” was lifted up and carried a couple of blocks by the flows. He admits he under the point of “impact”, looking up and didn’t see the plane.

New Name
New Name
Sep 13, 2022 3:04 AM
Reply to  New Name

David Handschuh

I think that was his name. He was on the Charlie Rose show.

Willem
Willem
Sep 11, 2022 6:43 PM

The man who was most prescient about 911, just one day after the attacks, was Dave McGowan. Here is what he wrote on September 12, 2001 https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/welcome-to-the-new-and-improved-police-state/ He was spot on many things that are usually coined as ‘conspiracy theory’ but not really heard in alt media and (God forbid): the mainstream. Please make sure to visit his website (if you have not already done so). It is a treasure In terms of: ‘A new scientific study finds fires did not bring down WTC7.’ McGowan wrote: ‘Excuse my cynicism here, but have we Americans completely lost our ability to think? Are we now so thoroughly braindead that we are completely reliant on our media outlets, with their endless supply of ‘experts,’ to make sense of events in the world? Are we really that stupid – or do our leaders just think that we are?’ Well, 20 years after the event, we still… Read more »

NickM
NickM
Sep 12, 2022 6:22 AM
Reply to  Willem

From your Link to Dave McGowan: “The people of some hapless [defenseless little] country (or countries) that will be identified as the culprit [or culprits] will pay with their lives and the lives of their children. [But also] The people of America [he means the U$A] and much of the Western world, will pay with the wholesale stripping away of their remaining human, civil and privacy rights. Such a scenario only serves to benefit those who sit at the top of the food chain. Our elected leaders will be given free rein to ram through legislation so appallingly reactionary that it would have been unthinkable just days ago. Military spending and the militarization of the country will escalate to a fever pitch.” Thanks for that link to what a first class Conspiracy Theorist wrote on 12 Sept 2001, predicting the future 20 years ahead: “Dass gibst nichts praktischer als ein… Read more »

MattC
MattC
Sep 12, 2022 6:45 AM
Reply to  Willem

The establishment’s answer to any flaws in their plans / explanations is either “Conspiracy Theory” or “Coincidence”. This is invariably accompanied by some other “crisis” to keep everyone distracted. The assumption is that the ordinary person can only hold one thought at any one time so all they have to do is keep a steady flow of issues and bingo!

TDj
TDj
Sep 12, 2022 2:10 PM
Reply to  MattC

Check the morning of Charlie Hebdo, when Shell were in London’s High Courts settling environmental damage costs of Nigeria, for £55 million quid pro quo. Search what happened in N.E. Nigeria and the other main fairy tales of the day. Immediately before Tsipras was getting elected and after B.P.’s Deep-water Horizon legal liability had been agreed 👍 with President Goodluck readied to depart &&& follow the money.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 12, 2022 6:43 PM
Reply to  TDj

TDj, I replied to your post to me earlier today, on the Off-G article dated 10th September (‘Dangerous not so much’). You’d asked me re. geo-engineering of the weather.

You may have seen it, but maybe not; Just thought I’d mention it!

TDj
TDj
Sep 12, 2022 9:52 PM

Yoyoyo, sorry for the delay, but needs be with my nephew’s young kids during his birthday party. Gotta’ start young to subvent the system and prime them before so called ‘educators’ wish to impart their ground zero knowledge of Corporate history and their so called knowledge of history, BEFORE, Ronald Mcdonald takes over… First, I actually remembered, therefore, my condolences 🙏 most sincerely. Your partner may well have been trying to protect you, like I have had to do, Because, what he may well have witnessed, I know extremely well !! And the last time I began to speak openly, this whole website was taken down with a Cyberattack on the 26th May of another year… Therefore, I need to be extremely careful how I frame things, when, why, how & WHAT/WATTAGE… but it most surely includes Alaska in the Phased Array of ANTENNAS & everything-everything connected to military intelligence… Read more »

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 11:17 PM
Reply to  TDj

Just to get into your conversation briefly, without interrupting it:
TDj don’t take too much what a minor stranger has told you on the internet. I can be any fool (which is obvious to some extent). You’re a serious man.

Have a nice birthday party. 🙂

TDj
TDj
Sep 13, 2022 10:19 AM

Whoops, I did it again. Sorry for speed reading your comment and misconstruing. I was in a hurry yesterday and somehow thought Your partner had been to Alaska. My bad. Apologies. Anyways. Thanks for answering in the affirmative. Today, there is no need to even travel to Alaska, as Germany and their Green Party have high auroral acoustic research programming in Rostock. But curiously, given their feverish desire to get to grips with climate change, I think they became 🤔 so green, that the vast majority do not understand their own culpability. At least, I’m Damn sure that Annalina Baerbock does not understand and has never thrown an eye on the equipment she stands responsible for today… Since WW2, NATO nations have spent national fortunes on Geo-engineering the weather and yet their media continuously tell us that WE the people are responsible for Climate Change, not their military… when unquestionably… Read more »

Irwin
Irwin
Sep 11, 2022 6:33 PM

This video elaborates on this article.

Kees Koek
Kees Koek
Sep 11, 2022 6:26 PM

As an shameful veteran of “operation enduring freedom” I wholeheartedly agree.

jiin
jiin
Sep 11, 2022 5:51 PM

What is Predictive Programming? | 100% Proof of Hollywood Brainwashing & Foreknowledge of 911. ODD Tv

GundelP
GundelP
Sep 11, 2022 7:40 PM
Reply to  jiin

It is on the 20 dollar, too, if you fold it, you can see the towers being hit.
Here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=folded+20+dollar+bill+into+twin+towers&t=ha&va=j&iax=images&ia=images

Predictive programming – Covid – ‘WTF NHS 2012’ – 2012 Olympics NHS part – they removed it from EVERYWHERE NOW. It was on bitchute, brandnewtube, was uploaded again and again to youtube – I can’t find it anywhere now.

Thanks for the webarch. 🙂
WATCH IT IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN IT.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211009204706/https://brandnewtube.com/watch/wtf-olympic-opening-ceremony-2012-nhs_svZbFgJFaXeX4YA.html?lang=type

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Sep 11, 2022 5:24 PM

And to continue my earlier comment… (posted here)

The following are the estimated temperatures of the demolition WTC site!

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Very few things can keep temperatures of that scale 5 DAYS after the barbecue!

No wonder THEY call it “ground-zero” (the point directly above, below, or at which a nuclear explosion occurs), I guess just to mock the herds…

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 11, 2022 5:21 PM

The Great Satan.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 11, 2022 10:56 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

I’m sure she will appreciate your accolade.

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 12:44 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

At the moment, he cannot pay attention to flattery, as he is fighting a fierce battle for the world throne. But later he will surely review the pile of thank-you messages. For in the Outer Darkness he will have all the necessary time.

Annie
Annie
Sep 11, 2022 5:09 PM

I don’t think it matters if these atrocities happen they were created hundreds of years before.Being called a conspiracy theorist was created every occasion scenario was created.We have been slaves for thousands of years they just perfected it into us not thinking we are slaves.WE ARE STILL SLAVES.The only way to get out of it is to listen to your heart and mind for only then you will be free.👍

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Sep 11, 2022 5:26 PM
Reply to  Annie

Annie, Annie… Don’t be so naive. While you are trying to listen to your heart and mind They (SRF & Billionaires) have been culling millions.

Not working that great I say!

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 1:08 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

The good thing is that, at the expense of the people of the heart, after millions of articles and films filled with hundreds of billions of words, which millions of thinking with their minds (not with their hearts) people read and understood, and which articles and films completely exposed the plans of the SRF & Billionaires, they got scared and no longer do it. Não é?:)

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 12, 2022 2:18 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Listening to your heart and mind is a personal, and an inner, thing, so the freedom Annie is talking about will be yours.

Where I think you are mistaken is in implying that the millions of culled people die because of free individuals like Annie listening to their own hearts and minds, when the truth is that the two events are not mutually exclusive.

Some of those millions will have listened to their hearts and minds, and others will not, but Annie is encouraging us to be free individuals, whether or not we end up as one of those culled millions, and I think that is the only way for a human being to regard life, even in the face of impossible odds.

Of course if we’d just pull our fingers out, we could be doing the necessary punishing of those who really deserve it.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 11, 2022 4:54 PM

Why 9/11/2001 matters:

Evidence for Informed Trading on the Attacks of September 11
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/11/18/evidence-for-informed-trading-on-the-attacks-of-september-11/

9/11 Terror Trading – 15 Years Later – YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsOByMkUN7g

There are many other exposes’ available…

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Sep 11, 2022 4:45 PM

9-11 like COVID is a government false flag psyop. Early on most astute folks realized there were holes, inconsistencies and flaws in the official narrative of 9-11 events and the resulting bogus Global War on Terror lacked credibility. The first false claim was 9-11 was a “surprise attack”. The fact is numerous countries including Israel, Russia and Germany warned the US something was coming soon! The FBI knew about Operation Bojinka and the plan to crash airplanes into US building years prior to 9-11. How did the US know it was Osama bin-Laden the next day?. How could a dying man suffering from renal failure execute such a plan? The FBI Website never listed Osama bin-Laden as the culprit behind 9-11. The 9-11 Commission was a farce a complete white wash. These are just a few of the more obvious holes in the narrative. Lastly why attack Afghanistan if the… Read more »

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 11, 2022 10:57 PM

The World of Illusions.

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 12:39 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

He was their creation and possession from the beginning. Some of the illusions are so old and so bored that they have become truths for a change.

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 2:18 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

People should not be discouraged. For the reason that they have every reason to be discouraged. Law.

TDj
TDj
Sep 12, 2022 11:40 PM
Reply to  plino

However, I feel that it is safe to say that they would/should be extremely angry, Once they connect the dots: especially were they a Heritage legacy farming family Forced into liquidation, selling up their barron drought ridden lands, due to many Sequential years of drought: selling up to Monsanto, who wished to experiment with their especially prepared drought resistant seed of a GMO ‘nature’… Lucky? For Monsanto ? After their investments in developing GMO drought resistant seed ? Naturally, if somebody could reduce the price of land to purchase, with, Which to experiment… the sky is the limit, what/watt . Could it be that ARCO instrumentation &/or any other corporate body, such as B.P. Might take an interest in creating the optimal set of circumstance, With electronic assists, to aid Monsanto in their endeavours ? Harmonised with the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and the second largest corporation in the whole of… Read more »