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DISCUSS: US Midterm Elections – More obvious corruption, more reality denial

It’s election Day in the US, amid what they call the “most important” mid-term elections of all time. Apparently, the very idea of democracy is at risk. The crazy thing is, both sides are saying this, like one of those medieval battles where two kings both claimed to be chosen by God.

The NFL, NBA and MLB keep having players do ads where they tell people to vote. Pocket celebrities and those public figures still suffering Trump Derangment Syndrome are talking up the importance of voting as if it’s a Gandhi vs Hitler on the ballot.

Yes, they are pushing the “your vote matters” messaging really hard with this one, despite the fact that no votes have mattered less in the history of US democracy.

2020 was the most brazenly rigged Presidential election I have ever seen – Joe Biden shattering the votes received record by 14 million votes is absurd – and it looks like these midterms will follow the same playbook. [You can read the detail report on that here.]

In the run up to the 2020 election, news outlets all over the Western world were talking about mail-in ballots being safe (they’re not, they’re the easiest ballots to cheat with), while also predicting “it’s gonna look like Trump has won, then he will lose”, and that counting the votes will take a much longer time than usual.

It was an obvious set-up for a rigged election – and the same is happening now.

Yesterday, ABC News headlined:

Early election night results might not indicate final tallies (and why that’s OK)

Explaining that there will likely be a “red mirage” and an “artificial” GOP lead.

Elsewhere, other outlets are focused on gaslighting the public into believing counting votes has always taken a long time.

Vox headlines:

We won’t know all the midterm results on election night. That’s normal.

…which is a lie. It’s not “normal” at all. For decades vote counting has been completed on the same day. This is pure programming.

While NPR warns people to “be patient” because the election is going to “go on a while”.

And just last night, Whitehouse press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters at the daily press briefing:

So, yeah. The votes will be rigged – they always are – but this time they seem to be going all-out to make it as obvious as possible.

So, what’s the end game here?

It could be argued that outrageously obvious corruption is deliberately designed to enrage people, so they have an excuse to crack down on “domestic terrorists and election deniers”. But if they want “terrorist incidents” to happen, they could just stage them like they usually do.

Perhaps they will make a play of apparent Democrat cheating, only to have the Republicans win at the last second and therefore discredit all the “conspiracy theorists” who claimed the votes were rigged.

More long term, they may one day reveal this corruption in an attempt to argue “democracy is broken”, and that we need a “new system”.

On a meta-level, cheating as obviously as possible whilst making pointing it out a crime is another battle in the establishment’s war on reality. Forcing people to deny the evidence of their own eyes, as they have done with myriad other narratives – most obviously Covid.

But what do you think?

  • Who will win the mid terms?
  • Do the results matter?
  • Will it be rigged?
  • Is the sign-posting of the rigging deliberate? If so, to what end?
  • Will there be any more “domestic terrorism” incidents?
  • How long will the vote counting last?
  • What role does delayed vote counting play in the rigging process?
  • What is the overall agenda at play here?

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snafuman
snafuman
Nov 13, 2022 4:27 PM

Just watched a five % point lead for the Republican Senatorial candidate (not that he was anything special, just the way lesser of two evils) evaporate in my state after counting the mail in ballots. And it’s happening everywhere. Except Florida, where Republicans kicked ass. Why? Because the Republican Governor and legislature fixed voting laws to make it difficult for the Democrats to cheat. But if the Democrats ever win again in Florida, the first thing they do will be to change those laws back.

Vote stealing cannot be fixed by the people who are benefiting from the stealing. Probably obvious to most perusing this website, unfortunately, a tiny percentage of the populace (especially here in the U.S.).

The polls here predicted a “Red Wave”, which again, only happened in Florida, the state that truly secured their voting. Were the polls wrong? The polls here rarely favor Republicans or do them any favors. Just the opposite.

I fully expect the Republican’s tenuous “lead” in the House of Representatives to disappear by the end of next week.

Not that I was expecting Republicans to save us (although there are at least a few good ones). “Democrats are corrupt and evil, Republicans are gutless and incompetent”. Don’t remember who said it, but they summed up the entire political system here in one sentence. And regardless of any vote stealing, a lot of people did vote to continue the same crappy governance that they currently have. Not that they don’t deserve it. They do. But I don’t deserve it.

Me? I’m stocking up on food and beer, turning my backyard into a garden, and getting a nice lawn chair so I can sit back and watch (and hopefully survive) the chaos to come. I feel like a Roman living around 400 A.D. But some Romans survived.

Jay Walker
Jay Walker
Nov 12, 2022 6:03 AM

Good read on how we became totalitarian regarding “narrative” control. The last section exposes the goals to hide election questions, prevent protests, legal challenges, and mainstream news coverage.

https://www.foundationforfreedomonline.com/report/11-9-22.html

Gordon mcrae
Gordon mcrae
Nov 12, 2022 12:10 AM

Slightly unhinged article.

Gordon mcrae
Gordon mcrae
Nov 17, 2022 6:36 PM
Reply to  Gordon mcrae

after observing some of the Arizona election news I think there’s a real possibility of corruption in that state’s 2022 mid term elections. I hope they can force a complete redo of the election in Arizona.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 10, 2022 11:48 PM

Why did they bother?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism
Chartism was a working-class movement for political reform in the United Kingdom that erupted from 1838 to 1857 and was strongest in 1839, 1842 and 1848. It took its name from the People’s Charter of 1838 and was a national protest movement, with particular strongholds of support in Northern England, the East Midlands, the Staffordshire Potteries, the Black Country, and the South Wales Valleys. The movement was fiercely opposed by government authorities who finally suppressed it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette
A suffragette was a member of an activist women’s organisation in the early 20th century who, under the banner “Votes for Women”, fought for the right to vote in public elections in the United Kingdom. The term refers in particular to members of the British Women’s Social and Political Union (WSPU), a women-only movement founded in 1903 by Emmeline Pankhurst, which engaged in direct action and civil disobedience.[1][2] In 1906, a reporter writing in the Daily Mail coined the term suffragette for the WSPU, derived from suffragistα (any person advocating for voting rights), in order to belittle the women advocating women’s suffrage.[3] The militants embraced the new name, even adopting it for use as the title of the newspaper published by the WSPU.[3]

Paul
Paul
Nov 10, 2022 9:58 PM

Why include a link about the 2020 election “2020 was the most brazenly rigged Presidential election I have ever seen” that is 2 years out of date? So much has happened and been proven/unproven since then.

https://www.cramer.senate.gov/2020judicialrulings

Bad form OffG… .again! And seriously dilutes your arguments.

And reading the 180 comments…. people actually believe you still!!

Regards
Paul

GATruther
GATruther
Nov 13, 2022 4:47 PM
Reply to  Paul

Nothing’s been “unproven”. In fact, private citizens such as True the Vote, documentary “2000 Mules” and others, have provided reams of evidence of vote fraud that has yet to be adjudicated and is simply ignored by The Uniparty. 2022 is a repeat of 2020.

Paul
Paul
Nov 13, 2022 6:30 PM
Reply to  GATruther

Hang on a minute….. As my link shows there’s been ‘reams’ of Court Cases that tells us you’re wrong! (Did you even look at the link?

Whatever evidence that may have proven the various genuine mistakes/misdemeanors (by individuals, not election staff per se) that I am sure you refer, they wouldn’t make the slightest of difference to any actual final local/state results, let alone enough for Trump to keep the White House.

Come on……..

Regards
Paul

fertility
fertility
Nov 10, 2022 5:29 PM

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Sholapur
Sholapur
Nov 10, 2022 9:40 AM

Oh dear, results show a tight house and senate. Curse it! What a shame there won’t be anything any party can do to help people suffering most during the next couple of years of deep recession due to political deadlock. Shocker. I’m shocked. SHOCKED!

Still, at least maniac Trump’s republicans didn’t get a landslide and the lame-duck Biden puppet’s democrats didn’t pull off a shock blue wave. That’s the important thing. Right? RIGHT?!

I’m just happy that democracy is still working. I won’t say it’s working for many people but certainly it’s working for a few people. The powerful people. And they deserve it too. Being powerful and all that.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Nov 10, 2022 3:58 AM

Ignored

Surely we could have ignored this and discussed the many hazards that menace us ?

jax
jax
Nov 9, 2022 11:53 PM

voting is for slaves
all countries are human farms
your owners are human farmers

dude
dude
Nov 9, 2022 8:12 PM

Covid was more spectacular than this

fertility
fertility
Nov 9, 2022 8:00 PM

nmism
nmism
Nov 9, 2022 7:22 PM

NYT two days ago,

Yevgeny Prigozhin Says Russia Is Interfering in the US Midterm Elections

can’t find any follow ups …

Rogerthecat
Rogerthecat
Nov 9, 2022 4:44 PM

People at large don’t see corruption as corruption. They are only looking for assurance and safety, not probity, and the most emollient view wins out regardless.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 9, 2022 4:24 PM

Bizarre headline from the Wall Street Journal:

“Lockdowns Spread as New Omicron Variants Evade China’s Zero-Covid Net”

Lockdowns “spread”? Is “lockdown” the name of a new virus? If so, it is the only one activated by orders:

“Guangzhou orders four million to stay home as the country fights record outbreaks across multiple fronts”

I also didn’t know a city had the power to order anything.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 9:04 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Just more fake news I suspect. I am not sure why we are still on Moronic variant but then we are not in 2023 yet. My predictions are these.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/05/11/100-up-and-stupid-20-variants/

It is possible that the record outbreaks have to do with the old vinyl music records being broken. About as sensible as Wall Street Journal anyway.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Nov 9, 2022 2:50 PM

Oh Boy!

Not looking good for putting a temporary stopper to the extremist agenda.

Do that many people want this crap or is it another Dominion steal?

I don’t get it.

The right to abortion-on-demand-with-no-limitations won in Michigan. Won’t be long before healthy term babies will be partially born only to have their spinal cords snipped and brains sucked out just before they begin to cry. This is not an exaggeration, sorry to say.

Quite a reflection on the population. I plan to repeat that description of partial birth abortion often. Organ harvesting will be next. Can’t let a dead full term baby go to waste.

The idea that people really believe the world is ending because we use fossil fuels is too telling.

Are most people really that ignorant or stupid or both?

What the hell happened to our society?

Things are going from bad to worse.

Sane people protests seem be in order.

It’s all we have left.

Kind of like what is happening in Brazil.

nmism
nmism
Nov 9, 2022 3:02 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Protest is no longer an option, they’ve got that one locked, stopped, and barreled.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Nov 9, 2022 3:57 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

What a load of deranged bullshit, late term birth is birth and no one does late term abortions. Crack pot garbage like that drives me nuts.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 9:11 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

“Are most people really that ignorant or stupid or both?” All three!!! But mainly just stupid. There is a severe outbreak of what I call Stupid 20 going round current variant Moronic. This is rather mad, but if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/05/11/100-up-and-stupid-20-variants/

nmism
nmism
Nov 9, 2022 2:43 PM

Imagine my surprise – nothing burger arises from the ashes of the “election”. I get this feeling that they were planning on the red wave, but when realizing twitter red rebound was more overwhelming than expected, they quickly pulled back and decided to keep the blue meanies in the co-pilot seat … (I do believe they could change their previously planned results in such short order with only a bit of difficulty).

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 9, 2022 2:39 PM

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ChairmanDrusha
ChairmanDrusha
Nov 9, 2022 2:27 PM

So have these elections happened yet? Or are the super special votes still being counted?

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 9, 2022 4:25 PM
Reply to  ChairmanDrusha

“Or are the super special votes still being counted manufactured?

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 9:20 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

I think they are just seeing how many dead they need to raise first.

Edward L
Edward L
Nov 9, 2022 1:11 PM

Lol! Just slavery by consent. I’ve never voted and was an election judge for five years just for travel money and laughs. It’s hilarious how folks get all worked up over this fraudulent participation.

ophiaps
ophiaps
Nov 9, 2022 12:47 PM

The Daily wire was built on deception and fraud yet reposted by thoses who clearly dont understand the art of deception but want to discuss voting fraud.  🙈  🙉  🙊 

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Nov 9, 2022 11:41 AM

Sometimes, you just need to hear something like this:

Dear Tyrants, You’re LOSING!

Imagine. The US/UK/Brussels/Tel Aviv empire can’t believe that the world is finally rejecting their junk economics, junk GMOs, junk foreign policy, junk Rockefeller medicine, junk Technocracy, junk transhumanism, junk weather manipulation/climate chaos and junk gender manipulation/sexualization of children.

Edward L
Edward L
Nov 9, 2022 1:16 PM
Reply to  Straight Talk

But where are they losing ? I travel for work around the USA and did so for 30 year’s internationally. Where are good ole folks raising up and fighting back. Most people are just surviving and getting by and trying to make it to another day on hopieum and prayers.

Thom
Thom
Nov 9, 2022 10:24 AM

There isn’t a lot to discuss for us, really. Of course, the mainstream media will discuss the elections constantly – but that is part of the illusion, that there is something for the public to discuss, that voters have had their say, that politicians succeed and fail because of the judgement of the people, that journalists shine a light on the process and the conduct of the politicians etc… Of course, the main message they drum home is that ‘things are going to change’. I took elections seriously for many years but with every new election I became more puzzled about the results. These days I have come to the conclusion that all the people who are always accused of being by the media and politicians as ‘stupid’ or apathetic were actually right all along – that voting changes nothing for ordinary folk.

ophiaps
ophiaps
Nov 9, 2022 9:01 AM

Sums up the ludicrousness of the fake scripted wwf wrestling match.

Astronauts don’t even have to visit the polls in their hometown precincts, they can just vote from outer space!  😂 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/nasa-astronaut-votes-from-space-bunk-bed-for-election-day-2022/ar-AA13T2G0

Hank
Hank
Nov 9, 2022 8:52 AM

Have a look at this picture and tell me what you see at Joe Bidan’s Inauguration. It will take a very keen eye. Hint. it’s in the top half of the picture. Click on the picture to zoom.

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Here is a link where you can zoom in. Click on the same picture below.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/1/20/in-pictures-6

timfrom
timfrom
Nov 9, 2022 10:48 AM
Reply to  Hank

Is it the black flag (can’t make out what’s on it) flying beneath the Stars and Stripes on the flagpole in front of the dome?

Hank
Hank
Nov 9, 2022 1:07 PM
Reply to  timfrom

Well spotted. It’s a POW/MIA flag. Now why would that be?

Trump and Obama never had one?

Also take into account Bidan was not picked up by the military in Air Force one but had to rent a plane to get to the fake Inauguration. Trump departed on that day on Air Force one Bidan never got a Presidential 21 gun salute at the Presidents park but got one at a cemetery which was not for a president but a funeral. Who can forget the locked door when Bidan first tried to enter the White house.

Interesting times indeed.

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Nov 9, 2022 2:30 PM
Reply to  Hank

According to wikipedia: “In 2019 the National POW/MIA Flag Act was signed into law, requiring the POW/MIA flag to be flown on certain federal properties, including the U.S. Capitol Building, on all days the U.S. flag is flown.” Assuming wikipedia is telling the truth (big assumption!), that’s why previous presidents didn’t have it.

I wonder how long before they add the rainbow flag to the pole…

Hank
Hank
Nov 9, 2022 3:21 PM
Reply to  Sean Veeda
Hank
Hank
Nov 9, 2022 4:07 PM
Reply to  Hank

Or Jan 6?

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Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Nov 9, 2022 4:29 PM
Reply to  Hank

Hmm OK, so wikipedia was lying. No surprise there.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 9:42 PM
Reply to  Hank

Yes, a YouTuber noted this in 2021 and I made reference in a humorous post I did. in March that year.

But I said to myself, Mmm…somethings not right. And Donald Trump didn’t spend 4 years as president only telling us all (I am a UK citizen) that the swamp needed draining and not make contingency plans.

So who really is in charge? Not who might seem to be on the surface. But it is all a game so that the criminally inept come to the surface and expose their true selves as the world wakes up. The criminally inept think they are clever, but they are not that clever.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2021/03/11/from-the-public-eye/

Never Trust a Wizard
Never Trust a Wizard
Nov 11, 2022 6:03 AM

You qtards are somthing else. Trump is bragging about his role in mass murder and you still cling to him.

Hank
Hank
Nov 11, 2022 6:55 AM

When I saw Fake Bidan wasn’t picked up by the military for the fake inauguration and Trump flew off on the same day on AF1 I knew something was off.

Many other things also.

Who is in charge? Qrange Man.

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Nov 9, 2022 11:52 AM
Reply to  Hank

Baphomet in the clouds?

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 9, 2022 12:43 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

The nefarious (and ubiquitous’ transgender male in Chanel pink?

nmism
nmism
Nov 9, 2022 1:16 PM
Reply to  Hank

Under the flag pole is an extra tall looking thing that appears to be wearing a bear costume or the like … can I buy a vowel?

Krisztian
Krisztian
Nov 9, 2022 8:50 AM

It’s a scam. It’s a compartmentalized opposition working for the same master. Like Stalinists and Hitlerists battling for domination, selling the “I’m the good guy” script to the people while both works for Satan. They just don’t know their master (for authenticity) or maybe they do but it doesn’t matter from our standpoint.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Nov 9, 2022 7:54 AM

Today, 11/8/22, Trump said if he’s re-elected he would “seal up the border and stop crime.” Right. That’s exactly what he promised the last time via The Wall, never once saying The Wall would be subject to congress approval. Had he even once said he’d have to through congress for it, I’d never have voted for him in 2016. Everyone knows the entire political class is rabidly open borders, would never agree to one inch of a wall. So we took a chance and were badly fooled. After he won he said he couldn’t do anything about the border after all because Republican congress wouldn’t allow it and wouldn’t give him the money. So he knows he can’t possibly “seal up the border,” but has no problem trying to win again by lying. Further, Jared was de facto pres., continues to run Trump’s entire political life, Trump is just front man raising money for Trump/Kushner family and girlfriend income streams. Jared is a Soros business partner, is passionate about open borders and emptying prisons. So forget “stopping crime.” That isn’t the worst of it. Today Trump openly threatened Ron DeSantis, telling media if DeSantis decides to run for Pres. Trump would reveal embarrassing secrets about DeSantis that no one else knows exc. his DeS wife.

Grafter
Grafter
Nov 9, 2022 11:26 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

Politicians live behind a wall to keep the people out. They are far removed from everyday reality.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Nov 9, 2022 11:55 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

2016 was a magical year in the US. I never saw such an outpour of support, creativity and love for a candidate than the Bernie Phenomenon. Voting lines stretching miles long. If that didn’t convince everyone that the election system is rigged, I don’t know what else could. Never forget that we lost patriots Seth Rich and Shawn Lucas that year in the midst of DNC corruption.

fertility
fertility
Nov 10, 2022 8:15 PM
Reply to  susan mullen

Ron Desantis is a spineless weasel, in case you didn’t know

Ron DeSantis @GovRonDeSantis · May 24, 2019 I promised to be the most pro-I**el Governor in America and our bold agenda for my upcoming Business Development Mission to Is***l includes many historic firsts and strengthens Florida’s ties with Is**l, the only democracy in the Middle East.#

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Nov 9, 2022 5:16 AM

The US vote count will take only as long as it takes until the Right Result is reached.
The more votes the Republicans got the longer it will take to reach the Right Result.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Nov 9, 2022 9:24 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

You do get that some of you sound AS INSANE AS TRUMP DON’T YOU

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 9:47 PM

Yes, but ‘sound’ is the issue. Trump made out he was crass etc. to fool the foolish.

jtkong
jtkong
Nov 9, 2022 5:15 AM

For those who need to believe in facile solutions, the Trump-trap provides a relative safe harbor to the scripted over the top criminality of democrats. Trump, like Ellsberg, Snowden and Jones, has been engineered as a sump pump, to suck up and release oppositional energy into a safe container. While articulating the nature of “full spectrum dominance” is a requisite first step, we need to articulate viable options, if we’re to limit the allure of future cookie cutter solutions.

Howard
Howard
Nov 9, 2022 3:20 AM

Presumably someone has already pointed this out, but you apparently have no idea how bloody obvious something has to be for the American people to catch on.

If they’re told it will take time to count all the ballots, their take will be: A Long Count Is A Careful Count! Just Don’t Cut Into Thursday Night Football!!!!!

S Cooper
S Cooper
Nov 9, 2022 3:46 AM
Reply to  Howard

“If the Scamdemic has shown anything it is that the intelligence level of the average person Worldwide is far surpassed by the fear level. Mental laziness crosses all borders.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 9:51 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Fair point, but I do think many citizens of the USA take stupidity to a new level. But then many have a Germanic heritage and the ‘Follow orders or else’ approach very sadly.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Nov 9, 2022 4:49 AM
Reply to  Howard

What the hell difference is there between “American” people, although a severe generalization as it is, and “other” people? Are there “other” people, severely generalizing of course, who are better? Like maybe where you are from?

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 9, 2022 12:54 PM

You’re talking about USAmericans, right? It’s a pretty big hemisphere …
As far as I know, those in the central and southern parts are none too keen on sharing a name with the genocidal psychopaths to the north.
Since USAmericans rule (so to speak), we’ll be forced to keep associating “America” with them (Ugh). Let’s start calling the territories to the south “Latinia”—Central Latinia, Southern Latinia, Latinians, Latinian music, Latinian literature, ecc.

Never Trust a Wizard
Never Trust a Wizard
Nov 11, 2022 6:06 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

You know he means. the US smartboi

Howard
Howard
Nov 9, 2022 1:12 PM

Being a US citizen from birth, and having discovered at an early age that people are less than ideal, and having spent a lifetime observing my fellow citizens, I have concluded that the American people are just about the most obtuse folks on the planet – and mean to keep it that way.

It kind of goes with the territory: Americans are, overall, the most comfortable people on the planet – and comfortable people shut their minds to anything that might rock their comfortable boat.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 9, 2022 2:45 PM
Reply to  Howard

I think they’re about to get real uncomfortable.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Nov 9, 2022 4:58 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

I think we are ALL about to get real uncomfortable.

As for the ignorance level of the American people, that is surely true. But then that is trained behavior as well. And the historical legacy of America is heavily intertwined with other Empires, so while it may seem totally unique to the USA, it most certainly is not. I read somewhere once that all of the English speaking countries are among the most ignorant on earth, lots of that due to their various media sources. Seems pretty spot on to me. And yes, their comfort levels obviously play into that ignorance as well.

CK_
CK_
Nov 9, 2022 2:39 AM

It’s a UNIPARTY so it doesn’t matter who wins. Politicians are really actors at this point and they simply read from a script written by the Deep State. The only qualification to be president is the ability to read a teleprompter. Biden is proof that any moron can be prez nowadays.

ChairmanDrusha
ChairmanDrusha
Nov 9, 2022 4:04 AM
Reply to  CK_

Barry Soetoro was the same. Only difference was that he could actually read the lines in a convincing way.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Nov 9, 2022 9:25 AM
Reply to  CK_

AMERICANS elected Nixon and Reagan as well, two winners for sure.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 9, 2022 2:47 PM

Nixon looks pretty good right about now.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 10:05 PM
Reply to  CK_

Yes but Joe Biden is an extra special moron. France has its own version called a Mac-ron. I think he has Scottish roots.

Freecus
Freecus
Nov 9, 2022 1:53 AM

So, what’s the end game here?

Digital-ID and e-Governance, it’s all over the UN website.

Joe Van Steenbergen
Joe Van Steenbergen
Nov 9, 2022 1:48 AM
  • “Who will win the mid terms? Whomever counts the votes (Stalin)
  • Do the results matter? Only to determine which cronies get the laundered money.
  • Will it be rigged? Absolutely1
  • Is the sign-posting of the rigging deliberate? If so, to what end? Distraction, as always.
  • Will there be any more “domestic terrorism” incidents? Other than the rigged election itself? Who knows?
  • How long will the vote counting last? As long as it takes to get the result they want.
  • What role does delayed vote counting play in the rigging process? Rhetorical question?
  • What is the overall agenda at play here? Destruction of the American Republic.
Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Nov 9, 2022 12:30 AM

Elections?!
Lolololololololololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are all already banker boss puppet pieces of shite.
The banker bosses have been playing both sides and getting their puppets for at least the last 400 years.

Nothing is going to change until we the People take it back.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 9, 2022 12:56 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Well, take it. We never had it, so we can’t really take it back.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Nov 9, 2022 1:42 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Good point.

Blowtech
Blowtech
Nov 9, 2022 8:53 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Pretty sure some people somewhere had it… long ago… for a week or two

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Nov 9, 2022 12:00 AM

They will; No; not in the larger sense; Duh; who cares: always; who cares: nothing; to continue the facade.

wisenox
wisenox
Nov 8, 2022 11:02 PM

It seems as though the attempts at getting the people to protest are still alive, and this time, its the Trump-trap.

Former President Trump has called for protests over voting irregularities across the country.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-machines-broken-new-jersey-reports-misread-ballots-arizona

Remember, Trump told his supporters that he would “be there on January 6, and lead them to the capital”.
That was a setup, and he’s at it again.

Weird how he never goes on independent interviews. If you notice, its all scripted MSM theatrics with the Trump-trap. Fake news, but they’re the only people he’ll let interview him. Fake Mar-a-lago raid and all, but still only on MSM.
Hopefully, supporters learned from the last time he backstabbed them, but I don’t have much confidence in that. Hard to believe that people follow him. He signed an EO setting up warp speed 6 months in advance, an EO directing research agencies to develop nanotechnology for “enhancing human intelligence“, one that prevents governors and their administrations from objecting to mRNA vaccines, and one that made the promotion of AI mandatory for governors.

Human intelligence is information about the people, like surveillance. Trump-trap likes surveillance; he brought us Track and Trace and let Jared Kushner run it at the White House.
Sheep still follow him though. Even after he shut down the country, destroyed small businesses, handed out the largest bailout in history, brought in the gene modifying vaccine, gave us masks, set up his own supporters on J-6, and failed to inform the public about the contents of the vaccine patents.

So, once again, there’s another call for protest. Never mind protesting carbon nanotubes, intellectual property rights over humans, or patents crossing the blood brain barrier. Nope, he wants you to protest over a staged election theft. Half of the planet knew crap would happen, and the fact that it still went on is a red flag that it was permitted, and that the “exposure” of the “crimes” is also staged to elicit a response from the sheep.
Anyway, the “Father of the Vaccine”, wants you to protest…again. Do so if you feel that you should, but I think I’ll pass.

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Nov 9, 2022 12:24 AM
Reply to  wisenox

Lol right he said the vax was the best thing he did as President! You can’t even say he’s controlled opposition as you point out he doesn’t oppose anything.

Colin Mansell
Colin Mansell
Nov 8, 2022 9:30 PM

Talk about black pilling!!
The author needs to get out more.
Flippin’ heck! Seriously, do something well or don’t bother.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 8, 2022 9:15 PM

There are many ways to skin a cat.

At the last Australian Federal election, I had painstakingly read through all the platform info of all the minor parties and independents listed on the national electoral commission’s website and had made a list with order of preferences for the lower and upper house.

But, guess what? Come election day, some of the most worthwhile parties that gelled with me were simply left off the ballot paper, showing only empty boxes !

That’s democracy Down Under. And you don’t even get to opt out of voting, lest you want to pay a fine.

Luis
Luis
Nov 8, 2022 9:03 PM

It’s mind boggling how most people continue to believe in “elections”, not having paid attention or never heard about former presidents and prime ministers revelations about who really rules a nation… and the one tillong a nation is not the government at all. If you dont understand this, you’ll never understand how the system really works.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 8, 2022 8:38 PM

both sides are saying this

There is a complex multiplicity of POVs, positions and “sides”.

Annie
Annie
Nov 8, 2022 8:36 PM

Offgaurdian you need to look into the social credit system.It’s not fair they are working they’re asses off for minimum wage and can’t afford a home it’s wrong.look what they are doing to us.I eat once a day in scared to put heating on this is not a joke this is reality.

Annie
Annie
Nov 8, 2022 8:26 PM

People on benefits get money £400 people that work get nothing people on benefits get winter warmer payments people that work don’t?!This is so wrong.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Nov 8, 2022 8:49 PM
Reply to  Annie
Luis
Luis
Nov 8, 2022 9:01 PM
Reply to  Annie

That depends on who is on benefits or not; to generalize and demonize everyone on benefits is not a wise thing to do. There are people who genuinely need help, they dont get the money employed people get.
That way of thinking unfortunately is indoctrination from the media… and independent media.
Tragic!!!!!

Cathy
Cathy
Nov 9, 2022 12:57 AM
Reply to  Luis

When I was a single mother, I owned my own home and had a relatively good job for my area ( customs broker at international bridge). I spent those 20 years constantly worried about money and I had nightmares of ending up homeless. I got zero help. It was tough.

Today, my daughter is grown and a single mom as well. Her partner was abusive and the cops got involved plus’s a personal protection order, etc. she does not work. Her daughter (4yrs old is vaccine damaged, 4 month old vaccines). She is in school. She gets tons of help. From me and the state. She is terrified to leave her daughter as she has 22 food allergies. Three of which are deadly.

My daughter gets subsidized energy bills, food stamps, rent help. Also free medical. (Not really medical, just ama pharma pushers who never hope or try to cure my granddaughter).

It’s a racket. My daughter can not make it on her own. No way. Rent, food, insurance etc too high. Wages too low. She has it way worse off than I did. She is smart too. She has such potential.

Times are different now than they were in the 80’s and 90’s. Young people are screwed now basically.

Cathy
Cathy
Nov 9, 2022 1:36 AM
Reply to  Cathy

Sometimes I wish I had quit working and went on welfare. Maybe I would’ve been a better mom. I could have spent this hors with my daughter instead of slaving for the machine with barely any ever left over. Maybe then she wouldn’t have ended up in an abusive relationship with a baby of her own.

Lord knows I never wanted my tax dollars to support wars. But we didn’t have a say. Now I feel the tax money I paid since I was a teenager can support my daughter who wants to stay close by her daughter to make sure she doesn’t ingest something that will kill her in 20 mins or less. Fuck vaccines of any kind. All are toxic. Not even poison, as poison eventually leaves your system. Vaccines don’t.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Nov 9, 2022 12:36 PM
Reply to  Cathy

The thing people should know is that at the federal level, taxes don’t fund spending. That’s one of many myths they perpetuate. New currency is issued every time Congress spends. The problem is that there is no political will to support a healthy public sector anymore since government has been hollowed out by the corporatocracy and creditocracy.

The Uniparty doesn’t support common sense government investment in society’s basic needs: Here’s What a Progressive Platform Looks Like

“What this really calls into question is the notion that we need “independent central banks” to protect us from irresponsible politicians. If anything, it’s irresponsible central bankers that we need protection from. But for as long as central banks and governments are able to shift the blame onto each other, the technocrats will always have the upper hand. So, perhaps the time has come to slay the dragon — central banks themselves. 

A possible solution would be to consolidate monetary and fiscal policy into a single government department. At least this would make macroeconomic policy wholly accountable to voters, instead of being managed by central bankers who are largely unaccountable and dominated by vested interests. The past month has proved that technocracy has failed. The time has come to give democracy a chance.”

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 10, 2022 10:18 PM
Reply to  Cathy

All vaccines and most big harma (sic) drugs are fucking awful. I have had a few, including immuno-therapy for alleged cancer I now know was a misdiagnosis.

The elites want you on welfare, want anybody left alive on welfare so thy can control who lives and dies.

They won’t tell you the way to clean out the neuro-toxins, that vitamin D needs to be substantially boosted as most peoples levels in western world are way too low.

Or that vitamin C is a great anti-oxidant to deal with poisons. Covid19 cure, the toxicity from vaccines etc, is in the name.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/01/07/covid-19-light-bight/

It is a simple ditty, and there are other things that one needs for good health but these two are basic.

Luís
Luís
Nov 10, 2022 1:53 AM
Reply to  Cathy

Sorry to hear about your granddaughter 😣. You are a brave woman, a woman with a big W!!!
I agree with you, many of the new generations are weaker than their parent’s… in a way it’s down to all the psychological propaganda everywhere, giving the wrong messages to them, stuff like ‘you can be whatever you want’, ‘seek happiness’, ‘fulfil your potential’, ‘seek your dreams’ and others similar. Then what happens is that real life isn’t like that, young people then cannot cope with life’s normal difficulties, challenges, upsets, frustrations, losses, etc; not being able to cope with these becomes “mental health”, they are told – and this ‘mental health’ is one of the most diabolical agendas on earth because it dissociates people from reality.
I’m glad your daughter is getting aid, she is one of the reasons I wrote the previous comment, highlighting the fact that people should not generalize.
Stay well!!!

ophiaps
ophiaps
Nov 9, 2022 8:43 AM
Reply to  Annie

People on benefits get money £400 people..???

On the Gin again annie !

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Nov 8, 2022 8:19 PM

Politics is so far removed from people’s day to day that here in CT (reliably blue) people who know me and know my position on covid have STILL admonished me to get out and vote (vote Dem of course) and it hasn’t crossed one of their vacant little minds that they’re asking me to vote for a party that treated me like a diseased rat not 9 months ago.

Martha
Martha
Nov 8, 2022 8:55 PM

Same here next door in RI. At least there were a couple of candidates on the ballot I cast who are against mandates, including a nurse who lost her job because she wouldn’t comply.

Joe Yoder
Joe Yoder
Nov 9, 2022 1:13 PM

I tried to vote yesterday here in VT. Was told ‘You must first complete an affidavit to swear that you have not already voted by mail”. I refused. They refused to allow me to vote. I suppose my next move is to seek what alleged law gives them the authority to hassle me at the polls like that. If there is no real law, as I suspect, I guess I’m going to go after them in court.

Bri
Bri
Nov 8, 2022 8:09 PM

OT but relevant “New” Biology from Stefan Lanka https://www.bitchute.com/video/CIUsHgYigZXa/

Victory
Victory
Nov 8, 2022 8:00 PM

Holy shit. Since the off-G banned my posts, I’ve been scouring some places on the internet. On one site, its owner did an interview with the Oracle Oracle Armstrong, who said Bolsonaro was followed by Putin and Xi, and that the Green West wanted to destroy Russia. I posted Putin’s official warm congratulations to Louis Lula, as well as to “green Russia” from an official government website. And this guy wouldn’t let me to post for the green.

On another site, some mentor had predicted in 1947 – one with a big beard – that the terrible Kovid would come. Putin is also seen as the Savior. When I posted about vaccination and soaring mortality rates, the administrator, who says Kovid killed millions, ban my comment.

Now I came across some who had in their records from Orion, or Sirius, or elsewhere, that Putin was a savior, a descendant of Caesar. I promised them posts tonight, but they probably won’t let them.

I hope the off-G is pleased to have caused me this journey across the desert to the Promised Land…

From “The Adventures of the prodigal Plino”

Sam - Admin
Admin
Sam - Admin
Nov 8, 2022 11:25 PM
Reply to  Victory

I’m not sure who you post as regularly on here, as this is your first comment under this moniker, however I expect I’ve told you at some point, since I say it a lot, we are pretty lenient here compared to other sites, and we work hard to keep it that way, because we care to.

Oh and you aren’t banned. A2

Duckman
Duckman
Nov 9, 2022 7:01 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin

he/she/it has shape shifted through a few monikers, plino, metamorphosis and others i forget, crass, rude and often ignorant i can self cofessedly be, but a decade or two living in laybys and other traveller pull ins gives one an amazing set of antenae for bullshit and identifying “fakes”, and or those with a

“specific agenda to direct narratives in a direction they have been instructed to, not one they necessarily adhere to, or believe in”

this particular “bot” seeks to remove speculation re the role of putin in anything other than a pro-nwo/wef, whereas the situation is far from that simple, as an “axis” of the determination and direction of human history (moving forward), putin has shown incredible restraint in not allowing the current situation to develop into the foretold “ww3” that justifies the “nwo”.

im assuming from your end you dont see that by dint of email address similarities, style, source, timing etc?

But granted and appreicated dealing with our outpourings must be quite a job, hopefully at times humorous and no doubt informative at other times, assuming a strong self of self?

Thanks as mother used to say “better out than in” (re expressing our opinions)

Duckman
Duckman
Nov 9, 2022 7:16 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin

footnote, the “victory” moniker and self ascribed “martyr” status point clearly to the “mo”

and just to provide again something that neatly describes the nature of what is now playing out i will re-copy this:

The following two occult secrets are found within Christian mysticism: Jesus taught that the future of humanity is to co-create Heaven on Earth and live in peace and harmony, free from old age, sickness, and death. His promised Second return to Earth was referring to the time when humans would come into awareness that the qualities that He possessed are already within their own nature. The Cabal has inverted these truths by creating a false reality that states that, following three World Wars, Jesus will make a literal return to Earth for the Battle of Armageddon. For a secular audience, a false reality was created stating that a totalitarian New World Order is the future of humanity. These false realities function as predictive programming and are the scripts in the Cabal’s playbook that will continue to be acted out until humanity chooses to wake up. 

having had some very unpleasant “dealings” with masons and having studied their form (the relationship btwn “new age travellers” and lodge is complex, we “invaded their “holy places” many a time ;0) and were un-affected by their attempts to “remote view” us having acheived a level of freedom, autonomy and numbers by the mid 1990s to give them something to be really worried about.

“releasing” shed loads of “brown” at knockdown prices to the “travelling fraternity” post “malvern hills” (castle morton) was sadly the achillees heel and from their perspective “job done”

appologies that this needs context, “the future” outside of the mixed and multiple agendas of the 13 families variations on a theme of “nwo” will be over shadowed by the natural geo-political re-structure under the 3 headed dragon, its all so much fluff and selfishness, look, for example at the rush to consolidate by the western “hedge funds”

the question (getting to the nub of it) is whether “we” in europe re-build our lives from ash and what was once known as “north america” is torn further apart in perpetual civil war and societal chaos…

Or, whether we get to move forward as “under the dragon”, albeit with global “roles” reversed

resistance to the “nwo” and the “awakening” is akin to contempating shakespeare whilst driving a busy M5 at 90….

All the best

TDj
TDj
Nov 9, 2022 10:56 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin

Good response Sam. Thanks for being so vigilant and speedy in providing clarity for the sincere contributors. Hopefully, being so on the ball, constantly, will mean that the down voters to your response have helped you identify a few more… prevention, the best form of cure. Best, ‘Nip it in the bud’.

The Milosevic/Covidiot’s team of trolls are in full swing, prior to upcoming ‘events’ of a wide ranging grotesque nature for foundation of their ‘new’ illusory ‘open society’ and you will be under much pressure and receive many wild & absurd accusations from media matters onto funding. I do not envy you in this sense at all, having to cross check patterns of behaviours against a constantly changing background, especially on the financial 😪 side… I wish I could help more in this dept. But, ‘they’ took me down the hard way, following me from station to station and nation to nation, before OffG was ever created: even, from the outset I managed to identify one original member of the team as highly questionable, less said, the better our focus… keep it 👆 up.
The watershed moment is nigh on 🌿 here in economic terms and you have
to Get down to Get up… from any Depression.i

Now I’m here: though I understand you are underfunded and understaffed, I really am curious as to why there has been no article covering The Valdai Discussion Club ? Given the diversity of and often highly intelligent nature of questions Putin had to contend with live, with just one moderator on stage, four hours long, it presented much food for thought and a chance for contributors below the line to clarify their thoughts going forwards, regarding intent . I watched it twice, to be sure of a wide variety of ‘things’, given the dirty online Warring factions and fractional reserve banking methodology & energy expended in the media. Perhaps, Iain D. might like to address how Valdai DC fits with his perceptions, in the many killing fields of deception within Western Media Might.
Just a thought & best wishes,
Regards to Sophie,
TDj

plino
plino
Nov 9, 2022 5:11 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin

There are worse cases than me, Sam. I met Jeff The Beast in a few places. You won’t believe how much he’s changed, now everywhere he says something like, “Stop the fucking bullshit, you stupid morons!!!” 😄 

TDj
TDj
Nov 9, 2022 11:35 AM
Reply to  Victory

Reading between the lines, I sense your sense of frustration with our common 🌐 global reality.
Given that you are not banned, how about we take one step backwards and start afresh?

I, for a fact, know about the Corporate/Military intelligence ‘free for all’ capability to engineer
Global Weather Systems, which renders any public discussion of ‘climate change’ null & void.
Do you agree ?

Like you, I have grown weary of discussing 🍄 much science and the implications, let alone
Potential dire Consequences. I know that the Chinese were far more open to discussion on
This specific subject and have tendered public apologies for some mistakes in the practice,
In the past, in this Field. Is this field up for discussion within Russia, today ?
Step by step . . . (Onto mortality rates, pioneered by multiple nefarious 🍘 cracked actors).

SgtDoom
SgtDoom
Nov 8, 2022 7:58 PM

Wish to thank this Jackhole censoring site for censoring my data–filled comments!?

You doods rock at anti–free speech!!!

Sam - Admin
Admin
Sam - Admin
Nov 8, 2022 11:18 PM
Reply to  SgtDoom

Your comment is back now, it got auto-flagged as SPAM. In future please try to be less inflammatory. Thanks, A2

Scoopais
Scoopais
Nov 8, 2022 7:57 PM

If you want to predict the results of this election…study history….the Communist playbook is both established and completely unoriginal…

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 8, 2022 8:10 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

The Communist playbook is also totally irrelevant.

TDj
TDj
Nov 8, 2022 8:18 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

You fool (sucker). Are you Scooby, a Shilling for the Bankrupt Central Banker’s collective of

micro-SOFT MATHEMATICAL MORONS ?

Ten a penny Styled commentary in these columns, 😂 ROTFL.
Tell me what the boss of the IMF said to all, in Mansion House on the
26th May 2014, during the first Ukrainian War effort from the C.i.a.
Bring it on, I love Duals and discussing Dualism, in a multi-polar world.
Consider yourself challenged.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Nov 8, 2022 7:52 PM

I hope this is a one-off ! It certainly cant compete with your Monday Memes, nor even compete with This Week in The New Normal.

Nice Try, though !!

and: ‘PS. What’s the punchline ?’

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 8, 2022 7:51 PM

Insanity!:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/perennial-carbon-capture-satellite

The race to remove CO2 from our atmosphere is on.

What next?

The race to remove all sexual activity is on.

The race to wipe out water is on.

The race to blot out the sun is on.

Martillo
Martillo
Nov 8, 2022 8:20 PM
Reply to  George Mc

A “superior” alien race has landed. Chemtrails climate “conditioning” and HAARP concertos to make them feel at home….

Like the exploration of the “New World” back in the day with the Euro humanoids exterminating the “Indians” for some cheap “Lebensraum” real estate and all the trimmings.

How do you say Monroe Doctrine in Galactakike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6emQpBXe5Y&ab_channel=grimx5

“It’s bad enough with another race
But fuck me..a monster from outer space?”

Say NO to Galactical migration while you still can!

They slither among US

TDj
TDj
Nov 8, 2022 8:22 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Now yer’ talking (chuckle). You mean you are getting somewhere, scientifically &
Understand how an Artificial Ionospheric Mirror actually works ?

Martillo
Martillo
Nov 8, 2022 7:49 PM

Red$ and the Blue$ rah rah rah

Same as it ever waZ

YOU are the disea$€; eliminating your carbon assprint..the cure

Do it for Greta Retard

Get the $quirt!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 8, 2022 7:42 PM

The imprisonment of Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips is just theatrics. The Monolithy (my term) are destroying the illusion of democracy. Anybody who’s intelligent and educated knows this to be fact. Hence, Engelbrecht and Phillips cannot be genuinely fighting for “democracy”.

https://www.truethevote.org/
Statement on the Imprisonment of Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips
True the Vote calls for the immediate release of founder Catherine Engelbrecht and contractor Gregg Phillips, who were jailed for contempt October 31st for refusing to deliver to Konnech the name of the third party who was present at a presentation of evidence of Konnech’s wrongdoing. This evidence was initially provided to the Federal Bureau of Investigations in Q1 of 2021. In Q3 2022 information was provided to the LA District Attorney’s office in their investigation of Konnech, which resulted in the arrest of CEO Eugene Yu. True the Vote attorneys are expediting an appeal seeking to have Engelbrecht and Phillips released.

Catherine Engelbrecht said, “Trust, honesty, and respect will always be our highest values, regarding both our work and our lives. As a result, we will be held in jail until we agree to give up the name of a person we believe was not covered under the terms of the judge’s TRO. We ask that you keep us in your prayers. Thank you to those who continue supporting and believing in us and our mission to make elections safe for all parties and for all people.”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/06/breaking-catherine-englebrecht-and-gregg-phillips-released-from-imprisonment-by-order-of-fifth-circuit-court
BREAKING: Catherine Englebrecht and Gregg Phillips Released from Imprisonment by Order of Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals
November 6, 2022
Sundance
By order of the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips have been ordered RELEASED from custody, reversing the lower court decision which led to their detention and imprisonment for six days. {Background}

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/10/10/connecting-things-konnech-election-compromise-ccp-infiltration-ceo-arrest-true-the-vote-and-recent-deep-state-misinformation-efforts
Connecting Things – Konnech Election Compromise, CCP Infiltration, CEO Arrest, True The Vote and Recent Deep State Misinformation Efforts
October 10, 2022
Sundance