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Sucharit Bhakdi & the prosecution of “thought crime”

Eminent and influential “covid” skeptic Dr Sucharit Bhakdi is about to be prosecuted tomorrow, May 23, under German law for:

  1. having incited hatred against a religious group and attacked the human dignity of others by insulting and maliciously disparaging that religious group, while acting in concert in a manner likely to disturb the public peace; and
  2. having publicly trivialized an act committed under the rule of National Socialism of the kind described in Section 6 (1) of the International Criminal Code in a manner likely to disturb public peace.

Now you may or may not agree with Bhakdi’s statements regarding the Jews and Israel. It’s your free right to do either.

You might think he doesn’t go far enough in condemning Israel, or you might think he goes too far. You might think he expressed himself clumsily and without due regard for the difference between Jewish people and the arguably criminal Israeli state. You might think it’s a stretch to describe modern Israel as “worse” than the Nazis, or you might think it’s more than accurate.

But all of that is missing the real point, which is – Bhakdi is being prosecuted for expressing an opinion.

That’s all.

Despite the weasel wording of the accusation, he wasn’t calling for or threatening acts of violence, he wasn’t even “acting in concert” to “disturb the peace” – he was just telling people what he thought.

The real question here isn’t do you agree with him, it’s do you, or any of us, want to live in a world in which a person can be penalized by the state, fined or put in prison, for the thoughts in their head?

For thought crime?

This is why Bhakdi deserves your support.

Because his case illustrates the real intent behind the criminalizing of selective avenues of thought. And it has nothing to do with respecting the dead or preventing another Holocaust.

In fact this, from ‘Mr Sebastian Willing’ makes it too clear what the real agenda is:

By putting the vaccination—which is demonstrably harmless—against the Corona virus on par with the Holocaust, he is belittling the genocide of the National Socialists in the 3rd Reich

As must be clear to everyone, even Mr Willing, Bhakdi does not agree the “vaccination” is “harmless”. This is his entire point. He is absolutely not belittling the genocide of the Nazis, quite the reverse, he is giving his opinion that the vax will end up being another genocide just as terrible.

This is, of course, his real crime, and the one that can never be stated, because even discussing that possibility is simply too dangerous for the agenda-managers right now.

For sources for everything quoted here and for more info on the case go to Doctors for Covid Ethics here and here.

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Maggie
Maggie
May 27, 2023 8:22 PM

he needs to think himself lucky, ‘they’ poisoned Dr Buttar, and have a warrant out for the arrest of Professor Delores Cahill on trumped up charges..

Vida Galore
Vida Galore
May 24, 2023 5:50 PM

Acquitted!!  😌 

Rahwa Tesfai Ghermai
Rahwa Tesfai Ghermai
May 24, 2023 10:01 AM

Dr Bhakdi! A true doctor & human being. Yes, honour your Hippocratic Oath, Sir!

If they’re depopulating, they should just tell us so. It’s not as if we wouldn’t understand or as if this plastic infested earth is still some kind of pleasant paradise. Exempting myself, I’m sure lots of people would sign up for DEPOPULATION EUTHANSIA BUT DON’T try & infect me with Monkey Pox, shingles, CHOLERA & whatnot ON THE SLY & still expect me to respect your bogus (Covid) narrative that is clearly crumbling. By now, your entire system is criminal.

Why were we being forced to accept a vaccine for a virus which had a survival rate of 99, 98%? That is how basic these niggers are… Pffffff… A living insult to my intelligence.

Thank you Off Guardian! I’d rather fuck with you than with the BBC anytime of day.
More power to you all!
Eritrea’s STILL with you all the way!

sherkying
sherkying
May 24, 2023 8:12 AM

It all about next time.
They want to scare people into not talking.
The Academia types will be more worried.

Maggie
Maggie
May 27, 2023 8:46 PM
Reply to  sherkying

1984: cries out in protest against totalitarianism, loss of collective memory (history) and loss of language.Warns the reader of the dangers of letting too much power flow into the hands of too few people, and focuses on the ways a government can maintain too much power which leads to abuse… Orwell depicts power in negative terms–the boot in the face–and defines it as precisely the ability to force people to do what they hate. 
Orwell depicts a dystopian state which controls every aspect of an individual’s life, subjecting Party members to constant surveillance and, by making nothing an explicit crime, making everything a potential crime.
People are kept busy all the time, live miserably with poor food, clothing and housing and have their aggressions manipulated and directed against manufactured enemies.(like immigrants?)
NETWORK: Ignoring the teleprompter, Howard Beale newscaster, breaks into one of the greatest soliloquies of American cinema, a wandering but coherent rant about the BANKS, CRIME and UNEMPLOYMENT.
Finally, he urges his viewers to throw open their windows and yell, “I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take this any more!”
Network feels as fresh and vital as it did 36 years ago, because the movie predicts everything about modern media in the 21st Century—from reality TV and YouTube to Glenn Beck and the tabloid news format. And it did so 20 years before the internet even existed!!! It’s spooky how much the movie got right about the direction of the news business specifically, and the media generally.
FARENHEIT 451: Is a journey to the 24th century to an ‘overpopulated’ world in which the MEDIA CONTROLD THE MASSES, censorship prevails over intellect, and books are considered evil because they make people question...
These three books amongst many others portrayed what was coming.
We can’t say we weren’t warned..

Hele
Hele
May 24, 2023 5:28 AM

This is all so terrifying and pervasive and world wide and unreal.

Paul Scally
Paul Scally
May 23, 2023 9:52 PM

The Nazis are back in power in Europe

Maggie
Maggie
May 27, 2023 10:10 PM
Reply to  Paul Scally

Who were the THREE Functional Illiterate cretins who voted this comment down?
Show yourselves if you dare. Who do you think the AZOV are. WHY HAS 17% of the ‘free’ world aligned itself with the Nazis? Whilst 83% have not?
The Ukraine Putsch, by James Petras.
Ukraine, Truce or Trojan Horse: Retreat, Re-Armament and Relaunch
By James Petras (ccun.org)
UKRAINE ON FIRE
Ukraine On Fire (rumble.com)

Lutz Barz
Lutz Barz
May 31, 2023 9:31 AM
Reply to  Maggie

Because for one the word -Nazis- is used out of context for starters. The current nationalists are not -social nationalists- either.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 23, 2023 7:14 PM

Facts? The figures of both side defects and death from Covid and the Vaxx are in the 1/1000.
When medicine has rare defects below 1/1000 we are in a grey zone. Only according to media a lot of strange deaths are happening.

According to alternative media the vaxx is depopulation and genocide, first within 1,5 year, then now in 2025 or then 2030.
We dont really know whats right or wrong, other than the vaxx was a free choice for most and not necessary for those who are adult enough to take care of their own body, do we??

We dont know either much about the holocaust other than joos, commies, jw’s and coloured were in prison and and awful labour camps, and some inhuman experiments happened.
Whether the figure for joos are 6 mio or 1 mio, the crime is the same yes?

My regrets, but I find these legal right discussions a waste of time, as they are most about how much you can squeeze out from the Court system.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
May 23, 2023 6:52 PM

As I recall Israel was boasting about the high percentage of their population that was vaccinated. Videos of their authorities dragging the kicking and screaming non compliant into the public outdoor vax tents was priceless. They and their statistics became the poster child for the rest of the world to follow. Funny how they allowed their stats to be compiled, managed and posted by Pfizer. According to Pfizer the program was a great success. Then things quieted down as the news of young males dying suddenly of heart attacks began leaking out the country. They tried to contain the “disinformation” unsuccessfully. Fauci was citing Israel’s “success” as a model for the United States to follow. I remember. I am sure most everyone else who has been coming to Off-Guardian for the last 3 or so years has the same memory. They were the “Model” to follow alright. Such a deal.

Penelope Bolland
Penelope Bolland
May 23, 2023 6:58 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Also Israeli doctor posted a video showing the dead sperm cells in a 28 year old boy following vaccination

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 23, 2023 10:07 PM

Propagandist baffoonry male sperm Cell does naturally die..a ten twelve year old lad…could tell you that. Get a booklet on Sex Education Start with ejaculate it’s been niegh on oh wait 1963 ..try that, it’s soo simple even a Child can understand it In any culteral language.
Anyway lass how are your trusted baron avery osterigies doing under the telly scope.
Regards to the ladies in our mist.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
May 26, 2023 7:45 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Such buffoonery……. We will see in ten or 20 years when there is an epidemic of sterility. And there will be. A 100% guarantee that anyone who took the poisonous clot shot will suffer in some way. Every organ in everyone’s body has been damaged by blood blots. Young people are dying suddenly for a reason. Dramatic increases in infant mortality. Dramatic increases in late term miscarriages. Permanent disabilities. Death. You name it. It’s happening. And you have the audacity to say, “propagandist buffoonery”. Either you are a doctor on the verge of being sued or a really stupid leftist who refuses to face the truth. The data is out there. Everywhere. Of course those most at risk are doing everything in their power to ignore it and censor it because they have everything to lose. And they will never stop lying. All of them. They would rather continue killing and maiming innocent healthy people to protect themselves from liability. The whole scenario is fairly clear. It is just a matter of time before they are fully exposed for all to see. And they will be. Just like the thalidomide babies in the 50s. All those babies born with no arms and no legs and it took 5 years to ban the drug even they knew it was causing morbid birth defects. They successfully fought it for five years and still managed to keep it quiet. Nothing has changed. Such buffoonery.

Maggie
Maggie
May 27, 2023 10:15 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Dunning Kruger proved right.

George Mc
George Mc
May 23, 2023 6:02 PM

It’s funny how there can be something way off which you don’t pick up on till later. Of course there was plenty way off about covid from the start. But what strikes me now is that the moment everyone went along with this ridiculous masking and social distancing and lockdown, the entire outside world was declared toxic. And there’s no going back from that i.e. once you accept that then there can be no assurance that things are OK once again – because, after all, if you think the danger was such that you needed to mask up etc. then no matter what “the experts” do, there might still be – and are bound to still be – some of those mysterious organisms flying around out there etc.

October
October
May 23, 2023 4:50 PM

Not guilty.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:33 PM

But this forum cannot allow discussion of the Jewish Question!
Only the narrative that is “approved” is by the very same people that have made criticism of them a criminal offense.
The hypocrisy that allows the genocide of Palestinians go unmentioned is worse.

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 1:22 PM

Thanks for answering my question.
Thank you for mentioning the Sucharit Bhakdi thing.
3 to 5 years imprisonment he is looking at.
I am aware Germany is really strict about denying the H word that triggers things. That isnt the issue hear.
Ron DeSantis in Florida has brought in a New Laws – 5 years in prison for the hate crime speech law under the guise of anti semetic.

U.K has new laws under the guise of ‘causing people to self harm’.

Admin comments nails the point home clearly in the Russia article Catte did 3 days Back.

Sam – Admin2
 May 20, 2023 1:34 PM

 Reply to  Placental_Mammal
I think this POV is a heavily-seeded establishment-condoned counter narrative, since it distracts entirely from the Great Reset agenda (the cat that TPTB are desperately trying to force back into the bag) back to trad geopolitics, plus it ties into another heavily-seeded narrative, the ‘New Jerusalem’ theory which puts Russia facing off against ‘Khazars’, and UkroNazis serving Israel, which can easily be dismissed as ‘anti-semitism’ under a renewed and refreshed drive to make ‘anti-semitism’ synonymous with ‘conspiracy theory’, and officially deplatform any and all non-establishment-approved narratives as ‘hate speech’.
A2

Edith
Edith
May 23, 2023 5:35 PM
Reply to  Woowoo

Bahkdi has been acquitted, thank God

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 23, 2023 11:00 PM
Reply to  Woowoo

That’ll be for people of faiths..the hypocrisy is for those who are unwilling to understand.

mgeo
mgeo
May 24, 2023 8:19 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

It is not just Germany. In a number of leading countries of the “free world”, statements on – even research into – taboo history will get you locked up. Where the enemies of truth are well orgnised, they can they can at least lobby, protest or even riot, thus getting you prosecuted for endangering public order; this is standard SOP in theocracies.

Maggie
Maggie
May 27, 2023 11:11 PM
Reply to  Woowoo

There are about 14 million J’s around the world, representing “0.2% of the global population.” This estimate is based on the number of people who self-identify as J’ish when asked about their religion on national censuses and large-scale surveys. However, the worldwide figure could be larger if a broader definition (such as having a J’ish ‘grandparent’) or smaller if a tighter definition (such as an unbroken line of matrilineal J’ish descent) were imposed.
What I need to know is how can 0.2% control 98%?
How many years are we going to be emotionally blackmailed into allegedly paying compensation to victims and their families, thousands who received nothing…. like my friends who are dead now?
Can anyone explain to me the purpose of rebuilding Auschwitz, but nothing like the original? And why can’t we discuss the anomalies, like the majority of Anne Frank’s Diary was written in BIRO, and had pages of sexual stuff way, way above her age experience? What is the significance of 6,000,000 that they use over and over, and over ever since 1880? And why can’t we buy alternative history books on Amazon?
I’ve had 77 years of hearing about the ‘them’. WHY are they so f/g special? They sadly are history, and of no import in our present lives….or are they? Millions of people die in the avaricious Cabal’s wars, yet people still sign up to kill another Mother’s son they have never met?
Time now to concentrate on another real holocaust – the American Indian – and sort their compensation for life out! And the African Slaves….

Posthumous
Posthumous
May 23, 2023 1:03 PM

This is typical of the inversion of logic that we have seen throughout this so-called pandemic. It is now illegal to act according to the lessons learned from the Holocaust, such that anyone trying to prevent democide from happening again can be prosecuted. Those carrying out a second Holocaust are protected under the new “laws.”

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  Posthumous

The Palestinians are the actual Semites of Palestine, NOT emigrated Jews.
Therefore Israelis are the actual Anti-Semites.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 23, 2023 11:18 PM

No these people are not. You are lost justifiing your own self determination.

mgeo
mgeo
May 24, 2023 8:20 AM

Yemenis are also Semites.

George Mc
George Mc
May 23, 2023 12:06 PM

The pending piranha has decided it doesn’t like me and has kidnapped my last two. Just sayin’ so some nice admin may try and release them.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Me too.
Don’t mention JQ.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 23, 2023 11:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Tough, you probably upset a rooster walking on Brightons sea front.

George Mc
George Mc
May 23, 2023 12:04 PM

It’s always been the case that entertainment franchises have their “month in the sun”. Some are more long lived than others e.g. vampires seem to be perennially popular but who cares about Tarzan these days?

Covid had a fair shot (pun intended). It was a big hit for a while and caused some pleasingly passionate upheavals. But a spate of increasingly tired attempts to update via the variants of Delta, Omicron, Arcturus, Necronomicon, Voldemort etc. meant a line of diminishing returns. Nevertheless, the Trotters keep up their loyalty to the franchise:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/05/23/tfbx-m23.html

“As the new and highly infectious XBB.1.16, or “Arcturus” variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus sweeps across the world, Canada, like every capitalist country, stands woefully ill prepared to handle further waves of the COVID-19 pandemic.”

“…resurgence of COVID …. “Forever Covid” … embracing the demands of the far-right Freedom Convoy…”

This convoy is a valiant attempt to introduce a new villain to keep the bums on seats.

But they’ll have to do better than this:

“ ICU admissions also increased to 11, and two died of the disease.”

Two? For fuck’s sake don’t you realise you’re up against the likes of Z-Nation here with those horizon spanning zombies marching towards us! Now come on!

Umm … how about a little sleight of hand?

“In essence, the country’s entire population of 38 million people is flying blind through an ongoing pandemic….”
 
See? That’s good. Just mention the entire population of a country (Nova Scotia if anyone’s interested) – 38 million – and subliminally give the impression that 38 million people died!

“…XBB.1.16 variant …notorious COVID-19 minimizing of Prime Minister Narendra Modi …” (Baddie! Boo!)

“combination of the BA.2.10.1 and BA.2.75 variants… spike protein. Lab studies have shown that …” etc.

Last resort: the figures are frankly not conducive to reviving the franchise so just pad it out with yackety schmackety. It’s deeply disappointing when you consider that the medical drama series House MD lasted a total of 8 seasons and this covid dog is already deflating after about two. So I’m afraid you lot are going to have to join in with the new blockbuster: The Day The Earth Caught Fire! Though to be sure that’s also running out of steam. So how about enlisting for the Fascist “paleo-genders” coming to exterminate the poor victimised non-binary kiddies? It’s not much but the best we can do.

Maggie
Maggie
May 27, 2023 11:24 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Brilliant, I always enjoy your satire. IMO The gender agender is specifically designed to complete the sterilization programme. What the vax don’t get… the Mermaids will.
Then again, I’m glad the gender crowd won’t be reproducing. Who wants those genes swimming around? We are already screwed, with all the drug addled zombies who have reproduced, and Boris?
I think the idea was that the smack heads would all eventually overdose, but that failed….

moneycircus
moneycircus
May 23, 2023 11:51 AM

Prof Sucharit Bhakdi is being prosecuted in Germany under “hate speech” for having compared the toll of the Covid response to the Holocaust and questioning how those who regret the former could perpetrate the latter.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
May 23, 2023 3:03 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Strangely you may call just anyone a ‘Hitler’ or a ‘Nazi’ and this will not be seen as related to the Holocaust. So you can fling around the accusation of someone being a warmonger and murderer but you must not mention the murdered victims in relation to anything else.

George Mc
George Mc
May 23, 2023 11:31 AM

These are the most interesting of times. The media has monotonously churned out the most disruptive narrative that demands the most intrusive compliance – nothing less than submitting to the injection of some substance into your own very body. Now here is where everyone has been faced with a question totally unavoidable. In effect – and if the media were just a little more truthful – they’d say this:

“We’ve been telling you all sorts of stuff down the decades. And maybe you’ve not totally trusted us. Maybe you’ve sneered at us. But it didn’t really matter previously because you still went on with your everyday lives. JFK, 9/11 etc. – effectively these all meant talking points to you lot. But look at what we’ve got here: Big Bad Covid and you need to take a shot of this lovely pharma-stuff. Now previously it was OK to sneer in public and comply (whatever that meant) in private. OR you could sneer in private and comply in public. BUT with this shot, the public and the private no longer matter. You are deciding whether to take this stuff into your body. You are in effect putting your balls on the table! So the question is: Do you trust us that much? Do you feel lucky punk?”  

October
October
May 23, 2023 10:19 AM

Taylor Hudak is covering the case in the court (Taylor Hudak News on Telegram).

She reports:

Court has adjourned for at least 45 min. Prof. Bhakdi’s lawyers argued three reasons for the court to drop the case. 1) the prosecution didn’t have the full video at the time when it opened the court proceedings 2) they didn’t make an effort to receive the entire video (which contained the alleged anti-Semitic statements) 3) concerns over the indictment containing Prof. Bhakdi’s private info. The judge adjourned court for a break to consider these arguments.

October
October
May 23, 2023 11:08 AM
Reply to  October

Can also be followed here: https://twitter.com/_taylorhudak

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 1:23 PM
Reply to  October

Thanks.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 23, 2023 10:01 AM

I wonder what data he’ll use for his case – he has so much at his disposal.

German MEP, Christine Anderson, said “the vaccine campaign will go down as the biggest scandal in medical history and moreover it will be known as the biggest crime ever committed on humanity” so she’s saying even WORSE than the Holocaust. 4m25s.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/SzTmkQurAyva/

This is what she said earlier on – so spot on, so totally spot on about government.
https://odysee.com/@Anon:96/ChristineAnderson:5

Not directly related but interesting – German citizen, Marvin Haberland just won his case against his mask fine by showing the material put forward claiming isolation of the virus was unscientific. You can use Google translate to read in English.
https://www.wissen-neu-gedacht.de/gerichtsprozess-die-next-level-Strategie

Or is this some phony fake show? A show trial is a very common technique used to silence people and I do wonder about what’s quoted from Sucharit Bhakdi:

I went after these Jewish musicians to get a signature from them. Isaacson, David Oistrach, yes, I travelled hundreds of kilometres to hear them and to get their autograph. I adored them. And now they’re doing this. They, the people who fled from this land, from this land where arch evil was, and have found their land.

Who’s Isaacson? Does he mean Isaac Stern whose family fled Poland to the USA? David Oistrach was Russian. OK, so when he says “the people who fled from this land” he could be talking about Jews in general but it seems as if it’s supposed to link back to the musicians neither of whom was German. I have to say it seems as though it contains the kinds of anomalies found in agent-speak.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 23, 2023 9:27 AM

Here’s the latest issue (May 2023) of the excellent, truth-telling “The Light” Paper. Has been published today.

“The Light” Paper, May 2023 edition”, at:

https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/Light-33-May-23-Web-Final.pdf

George Mc
George Mc
May 23, 2023 11:11 AM

From The Light:

“Hidden Pfizer data shows vaccine unsafe in pregnancy”

The issue of the effects the vaccine has on pregnancy was a demonstration of how utterly and brutally cynical the covid/vaccine programme was. At the start there was a (grudging) admission in the media that “the experts” weren’t sure about the effects of the vax on pregnancy. Of course the pharma juggernaut wanted to roll out the injections without restraint from the beginning but they knew that if they blandly reassured everyone that the vax was OK with pregnancy, then it wouldn’t look credible. So they had to put in a little theatrical hesitation whilst, it was assumed, “the experts” were running the “needed experiments” to ensure maximum safety etc.

After which there was a remarkable turnaround from that early tentativeness to a full blown blasé assault not only on pregnant women but on increasingly young people – though to be sure, you can’t get much younger than a foetus in the womb. That was why the pregnancy issue was so important. Once you’ve taken that step, you can vaccinate the entire cosmos.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 23, 2023 1:42 PM

Why on earth has this link been given 3 thumbs-down???

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 3:50 PM

Why on earth has this link been given 3 thumbs-down???

Dont shoot the messenger.
Maybe in the real underground alt.
‘The light’ is considered maybe shilly.

Proletarius64
Proletarius64
May 24, 2023 5:51 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

It is..distraction whilst standing in the park,

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
May 23, 2023 9:07 AM

Yet the Covid jab murderers continue to walk free…

Matt Black
Matt Black
May 23, 2023 9:03 AM

aka, we need more legislation to halt this evil anti-semitism, yet more theatre happening concurrently across the globe

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 23, 2023 2:48 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

Ya right. The only thing wrong with halting antisemitism, is the fact that such restrictions restrict cognitive dissidence. Replacing free ideation with punishable thought crimes has gotten us where we are today…

Zak
Zak
May 23, 2023 8:29 AM

This article refers to another that was a year ago, so it seems like it is happening now. WTF???

mgeo
mgeo
May 23, 2023 8:26 AM

Even on this site, you may get scolded for asking why anti-“Semitism” is exceptional unlike all other racism or discrimination.

Brian Neil
Brian Neil
May 23, 2023 9:20 AM
Reply to  mgeo

The elite criminals hide behind the anti-semitism trope. In fact, they are anti-semitic themselves by trivialising and condeming freedom of speech to express the truth, and relating that truth to an anti-semitic lie.
The Nazis could have used the anti-semitism mantra against their opponents, whilst committing the holocaust. Because anti-semitism is all about words and thought control and not about actions.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:39 PM
Reply to  mgeo

My comments get “pending”.

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 7:59 AM

Is he looking at a prison sentence..?

Edith
Edith
May 23, 2023 8:30 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

Yes

Edith
Edith
May 23, 2023 8:36 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

Between 3 months up to 5 years

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 1:24 PM
Reply to  Edith

3 months up to 5 years  😡 .
They want to scare us into not talking to each other.

Kalen
Kalen
May 23, 2023 7:42 AM

There were many people who used variety of comparisons to Holocaust as
Sucharit Bhakdi did regarding to Covid policies.
One of most notable was Jewish commander of Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943 Marek Edelman who in 1969 called Israel a Nazi apartheid regime and her policy regarding Palestinians as Holocaust.

Among all others he was the authority of correctness of such comparisons based on personal legacy.

German state has ample experience in policies that amount to Holocaust or similar policies.

moneycircus
moneycircus
May 23, 2023 7:00 AM

When policies are illogical or nefarious, the people cannot be allowed to think straight or rationalise – for the house of cards would collapse.

Even the law being used to silence Prof Bhakdi is illogical: what is the point of the injunction, “never again,” if the moment someone warns of a repetition – they risk prosecution!

You might say he’s crying wolf – What, like Naomi? She has been expelled from the establishment who once championed her.

If one cannot account publicly for what’s going on, then everyone can be kept like mushrooms under shovels of sh*t. And if there is no accounting for what’s happening, there is no accountability.

Now you see why the BBC has just launched “BBC Verify” – it serves the same goal of thought control.

Expressing an opinion is not the only pitfall. Under Ireland’s Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Crimes Bill 2022, merely possessing material is an offence if censors determine you planned to share it. See Prof David Thunder on The Highwire last week.

In Britain, whose hate speech laws are incoming, see the case of the vicar Dr Stephen Sizer in January.

Prof Bhakdi’s impending prosecution only shouts his question more loudly: who is doing this?

Sociologists will probably tell us that this is an organic development of late-stage capitalism or some such guff – like the old comedy routine, “It’s a fair cop; society’s to blame.”

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
May 23, 2023 2:33 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

“Whom” that did it will be quickly forgotten after the initial frenzy had settled down, though to concentrate on names and groups is very popular and profitable. General public does demand names and addresses, so that they could do justice by themselves; only it never happens. Remember Madoff? Thought so. That which “Why” Madoff did it is still operating to this date and that’s why the question is important.

Contrary to the question “Who?”, there is no glory, no fame in asking the question “Why?” because we all know why, so we keep repeating the same mantras but it is the question that keeps haunting us until radical change happens. “Who” did it is an apparel one changes everyday.

It’s the old problem of theory Vs praxis; what’s the correct dose of each that allows change to happen? How strong do we need to be to throw ourselves into action? I feel it’s not a question of outnumbering our tormenters, we obviously already do; it’s to do with a revolutionary mindset; something that goes beyond the occasional formal knowledge of who did what.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
May 23, 2023 6:11 PM

“To prevent possible misunderstanding, a word. I paint the capitalist and the landlord in no sense couleur de rose. But here individuals are dealt with only in so far as they are the personifications of economic categories, embodiments of particular class-relations and class-interests. My standpoint, from which the evolution of the economic formation of society is viewed as a process of natural history, can less than any other make the individual responsible for relations whose creature he socially remains, however much he may subjectively raise himself above them.”

Karl Marx – Preface to the first edition of Capital, 1867

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 23, 2023 2:54 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Expressing thought is double-plus-ungood… We need to arrest everyone who has the audacity to think…

Willem
Willem
May 23, 2023 6:58 AM

It’s Faurisson all over, and with that Chomsky’s observation that censoring views on jews

‘seems to me something of a scandal that it is even necessary to debate these issues two centuries after Voltaire defended the right of free expression for views he detested. It is a poor service to the memory of the victims of the holocaust to adopt a central doctrine of their murderers.’

Raz Putin
Raz Putin
May 23, 2023 6:35 AM

The rule of law is dead and the Covid scamdemic proved it beyond any doubt.
So no surprise the WEF Nazi partners in Germany have launched a legal attack against Dr.Bhakdi for his opinions and his convictions.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
May 23, 2023 5:30 AM

Its Germany. What else did you expect? They get it wrong even when acting with the best of intentions. In this case having been destroyed by Nazis they pass laws intended to making promulgating Nazism only to find that they’re having to use rather Nazi-like thought policing to enforce it.

But since we all know that (or can very quickly find it out) why would anyone knowingly fall foul of it?

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
May 23, 2023 1:32 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Germany was destroyed by the Allies and remains a US vassal state

NickM
NickM
May 23, 2023 4:30 PM

Wrong. Germany destroyed its great culture by adopting Nazism.

“When I hear the word Culture I reach for my gun” — Albert Leo Schlageter proto-Nazi martyr.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:50 PM

“Your loyal vassal since 1946”.

Penelope
Penelope
May 23, 2023 4:41 AM

Only 17% of Americans went for the covid booster. –CNBC
So don’t be so quick to call them sheeple or “mass formation neurotics.”

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 23, 2023 6:30 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Dude, the article doesn’t call anyone sheeple or “mass formation neurotics”.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 23, 2023 12:05 PM
Reply to  Penelope

I wonder how many got the first round of shots. Any reliable statistics on that? I’ve heard figures all over the place. Hard to tell. I want to say it’s in the 60% range, but I’d like to know for sure.

Penelope
Penelope
May 24, 2023 4:12 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

I think it must vary greatly in different areas. From my personal conversations I’d say the uptake was very low in rural areas– except when obligatory for employment.

I took a cross-country trip Ohio to CA during late 2021 and saw very few masks except for waiters/waitresses. Conversations/questions seem to elicit self-congratulatory comments–“Nah, we don’t have much of that here.”

Walmart employees were masked, but none of the customers– until I got back to CA. Most conversations in CA indicated that although people were obliged to mask up in stores, they disagreed w the policy– most, not all.

Big cities may have been very different.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
May 23, 2023 3:56 AM

So, who really was behind 9/11? And who really is behind the scamdemic? And how can that end? And what the hell is the Oded Yinon plan? Ya, be careful out there, man. This ain’t new, this has been going on for centuries. Pretty weird really, but real none the less. Wow, they got us by the balls now, man.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:52 PM

Hey admin!
And what the hell is the Oded Yinon plan?
And therein lies more of the JQ.

hotrod31
hotrod31
May 23, 2023 3:16 AM

My two-brain-celled radar informs me that something big is being prepared for release and the swamp-creatures need every distraction possible to distract our attention.
It appears as though Dr Bhakdi was deliberately ignored for a few years … just until he could be used as a distractor.
Moreover, the swamp-creatures might well be getting ready for their ‘next release’ of P2 … the one that Gates smirked about in one of his video releases.

Proletarius64
Proletarius64
May 24, 2023 6:01 AM
Reply to  hotrod31

The treaty on Scamdemics is waiting patiently in the wings.
Good morning Britain Gates video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RcIPMHXLbICc/

wardropper
wardropper
May 23, 2023 1:58 AM

I suppose I’ll get some flak for this, but I have to say I found his statement to be indeed naive and clumsy.
He is an adult, after all, and I find it hard to believe a man in his position could say such things (see transcript) without being well aware that all he would achieve would be to get a target the size of Ukraine painted on his back.

What he was actually criticizing will be totally ignored and forgotten by those prosecuting him.

I feel sorry for him, because I believe he is utterly sincere, but I also believe he is unusually naive.
There are ways of getting to the crux of a matter without unnecessarily inviting a well-publicized trial that will certainly be organized so as to distract everybody from that very matter.

wardropper
wardropper
May 23, 2023 1:25 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I’ll be following these proceedings, and I’ll be interested to see what tricks are used to steer the conversation away from what Dr. Bhakdi has to say about the crime of the aeon..

NickM
NickM
May 23, 2023 4:40 PM
Reply to  wardropper

“I found his statement to be indeed naive and clumsy.”

Can you print (copy and paste) Prof.Bakhti’s actual statement here? So OffG readers can say whether they consider it “naive and clumsy”.

By the way, when did we start sentencing people to jail for being naive and clumsy?

PS: Is this the statement you refer to?

Have turned their own country into something even worse than Germany was.”

If so, it is demonstrably untrue. I am a South Africa living in Israel, and I think Israel is more like South Africa used to be under its Apart Hate system; or like the U$A used to be under its Jim Crow Laws,

Johnny
Johnny
May 23, 2023 1:16 AM

The ANTI HUMANISTS versus the ‘anti semitic’

Gotta wonder: Will he die of ‘mysterious’ causes, commit ‘suicide’, or will his case be ‘delayed’ for an indeterminate period?

Grasping hands, great evil.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 23, 2023 12:11 AM

Isn’t this what to Andrew Bridgen MP, as well?

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 7:57 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Coincidence..not.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
May 22, 2023 11:52 PM

Murdered

They murdered Dr Rashid Buttar. They will go after everyone that pointed out that convid was a hoax and that the clot shots were dangerous.

MattC
MattC
May 23, 2023 8:51 AM

And with a CV19 global infection rate of below 0.23% and for the under 19’s a rate of 0.0003% they murdered everyone who died from a serious adverse reaction to their experimental, unproven drugs. Add on all those people who died because they were denied health care, add on the 25,000+ elderly people in the U.K. who were shunted into “care homes” and abandoned, add on all the involuntary DNR notices doled out etc etc

A huge death toll and all avoidable but for the psychopaths who wanted even more money.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
May 23, 2023 7:06 PM
Reply to  MattC

CV19 is fiction. The infection fatality rate is 0%, just like unicorn fever.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
May 22, 2023 10:31 PM

He has been going against the narrative from the beginning. I am surprised it took so long to go after him. So why now? A good basis for filing law suits?

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
May 23, 2023 4:46 AM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

They play the long game.

October
October
May 23, 2023 11:57 AM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

It could work in his favour though, since the German mainstream are no longer denying the horrific (side) effects of these injections.

George Mc
George Mc
May 22, 2023 10:26 PM

….Bhakdi does not agree the “vaccination” is “harmless”….This is, of course, his real crime, and the one that can never be stated, because even discussing that possibility is simply too dangerous for the agenda-managers right now.

And that is the entire unpassable, impossible and unspeakable point for the media. That is why we have been living in Groundhog Day for three years and will be for the next thirty three – or thirty three thousand. The media has painted itself into this seamlessly sealed trap. It can never admit even any doubt over covid or the vaccines. And as time passes and the embarrassing truth becomes more obvious and the lie more and more idiotic, we can expect the rhetoric to reach higher and higher levels of frothing psychosis. We can expect similar from the terminally gullible – i.e. when their gullibility becomes no longer a mere tendency but an absolute psychological necessity.

wardropper
wardropper
May 23, 2023 1:43 AM
Reply to  George Mc

However, the media consist of actual individuals making decisions to propagate this insanity, and those individuals can be named and shamed.

Even if we have to drag them out, one by one, to face an actual debate with informed and intelligent people, we don’t need to assume they will get away with ruling the Universe for the next 33 millennia.

For example, we can sharpen up our reactions to people who say they want to go into the media, into advertising, or into politics.

1) Wanting to go into the media means you want to paint a glamorous, dramatic, spectacular, but untrue picture of reality for your fellow humans to digest – beholden to whatever rich guy happens to own the company at the time.
In other words, you want to be a propaganda tool.

2) Wanting to go into advertising is an admission that you are a sociopath, because you are deliberately trying to persuade your fellow human beings to purchase things which they don’t need, using the most obnoxious yelling, con-man patter and general din ever invented by man (with the exception of the pneumatic drill), all of which literally nobody wants to listen to.

3) Wanting to go into politics is the worst: It is an admission that you are a psychopath, and almost certainly a dangerous one too.

About our reactions to all this:

Well, rolling the eyes up to the ceiling is a good start.
But the scale goes all the way to hauling these specimens off to a summary trial on charges of criminally endangering our future evolution.

Mucho
Mucho
May 22, 2023 10:20 PM

Is anyone more qualified to stand up in court and make absolute mincemeat of the blatant lie that the mRNA and viral vector DNA “vaccines” are harmless than Sucharit Bhakdi? Is anyone out there that would do a better job of sincerely and scientifically explaining just how dark what these scumbags running the scamdemic have done actually is? I look forward to Sucharit’s information being put on the public record and heard in a court of law – about time! Steven Willing appears to be delusional by claiming the injections are “harmless”, because it’s so easy to prove otherwise – government Convid jab injury payouts for example, so bringing a case on clearly false statements can’t be good for him. This guy will get tied up in knots in court and schooled on the reality of what these criminals have done.

Sucharit will be putting some incredible information on the record to show how this evil we have been living through is up there with any human atrocity you can mention. You have the off the charts harms (physical, economic, spiritual, societal….) caused already (in the face of no true threat to public health from “THE VIRUS” even according to official bullshit), and the underlying potential for future harm which Sucharit is an expert in. Go Sucharit!

mgeo
mgeo
May 23, 2023 8:19 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Working together, the prosecutor and judge can prevent him from stating stuff that is too explosive on the grounds that it is irrelevant.

NickM
NickM
May 23, 2023 5:07 PM
Reply to  Mucho

He is not being tried for Con-19 denial; that topic will be out of bounds in court. He is being stitched up for anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli statements which are verboten under German Law.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
May 22, 2023 10:14 PM

This guy will have thousands of eminent people around the world backing him up.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
May 22, 2023 11:26 PM
Reply to  Paul Prichard

Priceless sarcasm!

martin horgan
martin horgan
May 22, 2023 10:00 PM

There’s a anti hatred bill going through the Irish Parliament atm.The noose is tightening.

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 23, 2023 8:30 AM
Reply to  martin horgan

anti hatred bill gone through the ENGLISH Parliament.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 22, 2023 9:48 PM

This is what he actually said:

… what hit you guys. Faster than lightning. And if you are so indolent and you don’t rise up and say ‘no, you are not doing this with us,’ then you are done for. And then you wouldn’t have the possibility to flee. Israel, the Israelis can no longer flee. The country is closed. That’s what will happen here. And I was once asked by an American what I have to say about Israel, I said, for me the Israelis, this people that I admired more than any other people in the world, I was an admirer of Jews, yes, you know I’m a music lover, art lover. The greatest spirits were the Jews. I’m sorry to tell you this, yes. I’m sorry, I’m a Buddhist …

Yes, I admired them. I am, you have seen my record collection, I went after these Jewish musicians to get a signature from them. Isaacson, David Oistrach, yes, I travelled hundreds of kilometres to hear them and to get their autograph. I adored them. And now they’re doing this. They, the people who fled from this land, from this land where arch evil was, and have found their land. Have turned their own country into something even worse than Germany was. So unbelievable. And then I told the Americans, that’s the bad thing about the Jews. They learn well. There is no people who learns better than they do. But they have learned evil now. And implemented it. And that’s why Israel is now “living hell”. And I told the Americans, “and if you’re not careful, America will be living hell too, and I’m telling you now, your country will be turned into living hell if you don’t rise up soon.”

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 22, 2023 10:07 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Can we have a link to this transcript? Thanks, A2

EDIT: ahh this excerpt is taken from the first of the two links from Doctors for Covid Ethics at the end of the article, above.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 4:59 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

So why all the continued “Pending”??
This is what is so disrespectful!
Admin is trying to control the debate AND the subject.
Allow the discussion of the Jewish Question.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 24, 2023 1:17 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Sorry, I actually have the Doc for Covid Ethics site bookmarked and took it from there. Should have posted the link.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 24, 2023 1:38 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I did answer this a few moments ago but my comment was deleted. Curious.
I got the above excerpt directly from the Doctors for Covid Ethics site, and should have given the link. Sorry.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 23, 2023 6:31 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Bit full on isn’t it.

moneycircus
moneycircus
May 23, 2023 7:28 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Not it is not “full on” if you follow the research from Israel of Dr Yaffa Shir-Raz. @YaffaRaz.

Who harmed the people of Israel? Who turned it into what the gov called a “laboratory” for Pfizer? And why?

I do think Bhakdi should get himself out of Germany and over to Thailand where he has reportedly been advising the royal family after the collapse from heart failure of the king’s eldest daughter.
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/world/thai-princess-coma-mystery-world-expert-says-its-a-covid-jab-injury/

BuzzWordSmith
BuzzWordSmith
May 23, 2023 6:59 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

The country is closed. That’s what will happen here.” Jesus Christ, so his criticism of Israel wasn’t even about their dispossession and treatment of the Palestinians. Just their Covid border closures. Unreal.

October
October
May 22, 2023 9:13 PM

Dr Bhakdi’s crime was that of explaining to the lay public why these products were bound to be dangerous, based on simple biological principles, before anybody had been exposed to them. No wonder they want to get him.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
May 23, 2023 4:19 AM
Reply to  October

Yes they are very dangerous even if you accept that they really contain active mRNA as their sole “active” ingredient, which can produce unlimited amounts of spike proteins. If you throw in the other, clandestine poisons, particularly graphene oxide, you truly have a witches brew. Roll up your sleeve, dude.

October
October
May 23, 2023 10:47 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Yup, he demonstrated that even if they do what they claim to do, it was a ‘schnapsidee’ from the start.

Thus discrediting any future mRNA ‘vaccines’.

Beatriz
Beatriz
May 22, 2023 8:56 PM

They were eager since 2020 to throw garbage to Dr. Bhakdi’s prestige. They cannot do that when he denounced the “Covid” fraud and the “vaccines” dangers, because they were and they are incapable to answer to his questions, comments and assertions regarding these issues. So they just wait to “caught him” saying something “politically incorrect” about any other topic to “proceed”… Classic!!!

Ronald
Ronald
May 22, 2023 8:22 PM

All legislation the world over applies to a “Person” as defined within that legislation.
All elements of the “crime” must be proved. The One element that can never be proved is- is the Man Sucharit a “person” Take a look at your country’s legislation for the definition of “person”
You wil find Man is never mentioned- only legal fictions, corporate entities.
The fact is legislation is a fiction of law having jurisdiction over fictional entities…not true, not real, make-believe.
Do not ever allow yourself to be deemed a person. Be what you are- a child of God or existence.
You are not a creation of the state- the person is…

Michele
Michele
May 22, 2023 8:31 PM
Reply to  Ronald

Unfortunately, that fact does nothing to interfere with their monstrous persecution of him.

Ronald
Ronald
May 22, 2023 9:15 PM
Reply to  Michele

I agree…Sadly.
Yet it is that fact that is our saving grace, so to say.
Most believe the state’s jurisdiction to be valid, though perhaps like in this case abused.
The state, the crown, the government or whatever has absolutely no jurisdiction over the Man. None.
The Barr is a criminal organization run be criminals for the benefit of criminals and is entirely based upon a deception- the Man is deemed to be a person.
We convict ourselves through the conviction the states authority is valid.
There is only one way out- realize who and what you are and act as if.
It will not change the fact that one will still wade through a monumental amount of state created crap.
The only way to beat the system is not to enter it…

Penelope
Penelope
May 22, 2023 9:36 PM
Reply to  Ronald

Ronald, I think the only way to beat the system of evil government is to provide ourselves with good government. This means, at a minimum, taking the actions necessary to make elections honest. This means paper ballots publicly counted at the polling place, as well as other measures.

The idea that law, government or politics are inherently evil and to be avoided is false– but I bet Klaus, et al would be delighted if we simply quit the field.

dom irritant
dom irritant
May 23, 2023 6:56 AM
Reply to  Penelope

no such thing as ‘good’ govern(control)ment(mind), there is no authority but yourself, we don’t need no mind control

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 23, 2023 12:43 PM
Reply to  dom irritant

I totally agree with your comment, above.

My apologies for the rest of this post being off-topic, but it’s to alert you to the fact that I this morning replied to your further post to me on off-Guardian’s article “This week in the new normal – 63′ [the latter published on 21st May). I hope that you will read my reply.

In my reply this morning, I informed you that (just as many millions of other spiritually-enlightened people worldwide have also had) I’ve had, between 2001 & 2020, literally hundreds of readings with proven-genuine Spiritualist Church mediums (ie, not merely just one, as I think you may perhaps have been assuming), during which many of my [wrongly-termed] ‘dead’/’deceased’ relatives (including my longtime partner… he passed in 2019, aged 70) have communicated 100% proven factual information to me, including re. events in the future. They have all absolutely proved that they were who they said they were. So please do not try to claim that I’m ‘fooling myself’. For I most definitely am not. Literally everything that I’ve related to you in my posts on the other Off-G thread are 100% factual, proven truths.

Krasnoslobatsev
Krasnoslobatsev
May 23, 2023 5:03 PM

Like Fred Shero once said, “Ya Gotta Believe”!

Those that KNOW don’t say;
those that SAY don’t KNOW.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 23, 2023 6:11 PM

I’m not sure whether you’re claiming (OH so wrongly) that what I’ve stated is ‘nonsense’. Well, if your words are claiming that, then let me assure you that literally every word I write on this subject is the 100% factual truth. There are literally countless millions of properly-informed, spiritually-enlightened people around the world, and we’re all trying passionately to enlighten the many millions on planet Earth who are still spiritually-UNenlightened. It’s so sad that not everyone possesses (at their conscious Earth level of awareness) these ultimate truths of existence.

That’s why the vast majority of we spiritually-enlightened people worldwide are trying to provide that enlightenment for all; for there is no knowledge that is more vital for humans to possess than the truly PROVEN fact that we do all survive (in our immortal spirit body form – that being the real us) the death of our physical body ‘coat’. Also vital for people to know and understand is that communication between the physical Earth dimension and the very real Spirit dimension takes place all over the world, every day, 24/7/365.

I’m but one of those countless millions who are trying so hard to make people open their minds, and to look at the veritable wealth of multi-faceted evidences which prove incontrovertibly the truth of survival [of ‘death’] & also of factual, truthful communication between the two dimensions.

Your words “Those that know don’t say; those that say don’t know” are simply a closed-minded person’s attitude.
In order to enlighten people (whatever the subject might be), one has to communicate the facts re. that subject. Thus your quoted words mean nothing.

NickM
NickM
May 23, 2023 5:17 PM

Having read Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s autobiography, I am glad to find you continuing his work to establish genuine scientifically verifiable communication with the dear departed. Even though I do not believe it is probable — or perhaps because I do not believe. After all:

“There are more things in Heaven and Earth …” — Hamlet.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 23, 2023 7:25 PM
Reply to  NickM

Whether something is factually true or not does not depend on whether someone ‘believes’ it. Things which are facts/truth will remain facts/truths, regardless of whether some (uninformed…) people choose to ‘disbelieve’. Whatever the subject might be.

Yes, your quote from Hamlet is a perfect method of trying to make ‘disbelieving’ people understand that, just because they choose to ‘disbelieve’ [whatever the ‘controversial’ subject might be], that when the thing ‘disbelieved’ by them IS actually an incontrovertibly proven, factual truth, their ‘disbelief’ thus has no meaning. Ie, it’s simply that they choose to ‘disbelieve’ something which is in reality a proven, factual truth.

As I’ve stated (100% factually correctly) in my occasional posts on this subject (the fact of everyone’s survival [in our immortal spirit body form: that being the thing which literally animates our physical body ‘coat’ during each of our eternal soul’s many, many lifetimes] of physical body death), there truly do exist 20+ [twenty+] different categories of the multi-faceted evidences for the veracity of that statement. Twenty+ different categories of the multi-faceted evidences!! And yet STILL some (closed-minded…) people around the world choose to say that they “don’t believe it”.

Well, they’ll only be able to think that way until the eventual day on which they do what is so very incorrectly termed ‘die’; for when that day arrives, for every closed-minded ‘disbeliever’, they’ll discover, in the most undeniable way possible, that they have indeed survived the death of their physical body ‘coat’. That the person they were, when on Earth – with all the exact-same thoughts, feelings, memories, attitudes, etc – still exists; in their spirit body form, and not their physical body form.
And that’s when all those ‘disbelievers’ will have to face that “Oh… what those Spiritualists said was the truth… we were wrong to ridicule them…”.
That the ‘only’ thing which the OH so misinterpreted event, ‘death’, causes us to lose is our physical body ‘coat’, and not our actual conscious existence.

Penelope
Penelope
May 24, 2023 4:14 AM
Reply to  dom irritant

dom, you sound like a 2-year old having a tantrum. Klaus wd love you.

NickM
NickM
May 23, 2023 5:10 PM
Reply to  Penelope

“The idea that law, government or politics are inherently evil and to be avoided is false– but I bet Klaus, et al would be delighted if we simply quit the field.”

Agreed. And sorry you got so many downvotes.

May Hem
May Hem
May 22, 2023 10:27 PM
Reply to  Ronald

“Persons” are slaves, strawmen. We are Living Women and Living Men. We need to free ourselves from the imposition of maritime, admiralty, cannon law and bring back Natural Law.

NickM
NickM
May 23, 2023 5:22 PM
Reply to  May Hem

“Natural Law, in tooth and claw” — with apologies to Tennyson.