Sweden just scrapped their “Renewable Energy Targets”. Here’s why.
Kit Knightly
Buried behind the news of the supposed “attempted coup” in Russia this weekend, was the Swedish government’s announcement, last Wednesday, that they will be stepping back from their plans to go 100% renewable energy.
According to finance minister Elisabeth Svantesson, wind and solar power are simply not efficient or reliable enough to be trusted to produce the entire country’s energy supply.
This has been celebrated in some circles as an example of a government taking a logical approach.
But, to be clear, this is not about refuting or rejecting the “climate change” agenda, but purely a question of methodology. Sweden is rejecting “renewable energy” goals, not net zero. Net zero is still very much on the cards…via nuclear power, what some still laughably call “clean energy”.
According to Euractive.com:
Sweden’s parliament on Tuesday (20 June) adopted a new energy target, giving the right-wing government the green light to push forward with plans to build new nuclear plants in a country that voted 40 years ago to phase out atomic power. Changing the target to “100% fossil-free” electricity, from “100% renewable” is key to the government’s plan to […] reach net zero emissions by 2045.”
Sweden has always been at the fore-front of climate messaging, introducing one of the first ever “Carbon Taxes” as early as 1991.
It’s also the case the Sweden recently approved a feasibility study for a massive carbon capture and storage (CCS) plant near Stockholm. CCS is among the bigger scams of the climate change narrative.
And yet this scrapping of renewable goals has been welcomed by some in the alternative sphere as Sweden “seeing sense”.
This is highly reminiscent of Sweden’s role in the Covid narrative – the “voice of reason”. The sensible rejection of the official narrative in favour of a very slightly different version of the official narrative.
Sweden pushed for no lockdowns and “early treatment” and herd immunity, but all of that actually served to underline that there was an actual pandemic that needed dealing with. Reinforcing the official story through carefully orchestrated dissent.
It looks like Sweden is about to cast itself in the same part for the Climate play.
Moving forward, the debate will be about “net zero via renewables” vs “net zero via nuclear”, without ever questioning whether we need to go “net zero” at all, or if it’s even physically possible to do so.
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Minister for Finance Elisabeth Svantesson said recently “High inflation and rapidly rising interest rates have reduced households’ room for manoeuvre and we’re now seeing a clear effect on consumption and housing investments,”
translated as Sweden like many is suffering especially the lower caste.
Take note the climate fake of change of mind is now going through Europe’s political class as fake a binary.
“The greatest evil trick played upon mankind, was teaching man that his body’s self-cleaning programs are disease that require poisons (medicine) for ‘treatment’.”.
– Dr. Ben Tapper
This is another of the endless bait & switch projects of the ruling class, this time on behalf of BigEnergy. Germany just signed a contract for US LNG, one of the long sought goals of the war with oil & gas adversary Russia. In the early 2000’s, Amory Lovins stated his opinion that nuclear would never be a solution merely because it’s too expensive. The South Carolina plant, Obama approved, has been held in limbo because it is something like 3x over budget. Nuclear is peak deadly and peak expensive but our ruling class is obsessed with playing their risk-junkie profit gambits while using ruses such as bait & switch motives. (Watch our for their mini-nukes sales pitches made by NuScale.) CC is a bait & switch, within a bait & switch, to make unlimited profits from public-private-partnerships by making the public think CC the “ultimate” crisis. CC is cover… Read more »
Apart from the common very large over-runs in expenditure, nuclear has more serious problems. Most of the plants are past their planned life-span. For a plant located on a river or lake, even a drought can be disastrous. Contrary to the barrage of propaganda, there is no concievable solution to the nuclear waste that will last for millenia or far more.
The outlook of the politicians is up to the next election at most. For their paymasters, it only extends to the financial year-end or quarter-end.
I remember reading Scientific American in the ’70’s when it was a real, thick, scientific studies magazine, articles clearly stating nuclear waste can never be safely stored. With a 250k year half life, it will be a perpetual death machine. Hanford was built as the first nuclear reactor to produce weapons grade plutonium for bombing Japan. Nuclear reactors are for producing atomic bombs. Using them to run steam engines is the stupidest and most deadly invention in history. The ruling class are stupid sociopaths with delusions of grandeur that Humanity has, as of yet, been unable to detect as dangerous and incompetent bullshitters. Not anymore. Their time is coming.
Hanford itself was given the task of resolving nuclear waste, but became a bottomless pit into which public wealth disappeared.
After polluting a lot of its land, Russia now offers a solution to anyone wanting nuclear including mini- and mobile plants. This ncludes taking back nuclear waste for reprocessing, and is done under a long-term contract. The “super-power” will not allow that.
Sweden pushed for no lockdowns and “early treatment” and herd immunity, but all of that actually served to underline that there was an actual pandemic that needed dealing with.
What? What “Pandemic”? You mean the “Medical, Media, Military Public Relations Pandemic”?
Bogus and shameless gas lighting!
” it burns trash to generate electricity, and imports the shortfall in trash.” We need more burning of trash!…RECYCLE! INCINERATE WASTE-TO-ENERGY!!!
Scandinavia did a good job of minimising environmental destruction, comparedt o the rest of the “advanced world”. This was partly due to low populations, the reality of cold climate and control over politicians.
Crisis immigration is a major step to take Sweden apart. As for its claims on energy, it burns trash to generate electricity, and imports the shortfall in trash.
Norway is proud of electricity (including exports) from hydro, temp. differences in the sea, etc. But it is a significant exporter of petroleum. It continues to push the scam/mirage of carbon capture. It continues hunting whales that are essential to recycling phosphorus, nitrogen and iron.
I might build my own reactor, in my shed, as the Radioactive Boy Scout or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Wilson did, what a load of old BS.
Check out the eminent Peter & Pete on YT, Are Nuclear Reactors Really Nuclear?
Interesting article … https://journal-neo.org/2015/10/09/oh-oil-where-is-thy-peak/ Here is some of what is says: “They developed the brilliant hypothesis that oil was constantly being created deep in the bowels of the Earth below the mantle. It pushes upward towards the surface passing through beds of various elements such as ferrite. …… The path the initial methane gas takes upwards towards the surface determines whether it emerges and collects as oil or as gas, as coal, as bitumen ….. or even as diamonds which are also hydrocarbons. ….. every giant oilfield was “self-replentishing,” that is new oil or gas is being constantly pushed up from inside the mantle via the faults or migration channels to replace oil withdrawn. Old oilwells across Russia that were pumped far beyond their natural full rate during the end of the Soviet era when maximum production was considered highest priority, were then shut, considered exhausted. Twenty years later, according… Read more »
Because its a self-regulating system.
The inner earth consist of an enormous ball of burning lava which constantly produces gases, coal and oil residues.
The universe consist of mother earth, and all the planets around it are only there to regulate life on earth and have each their regulating function: The moon, sun, Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, m.m.
The layers from Space, the Van Allen belt, Exosphere, Thermosphere, Karman line, Mesosphere, Stratosphere, Ozon layer, Troposphere, are there to regulate the cosmic radiation and heat we receive from space and the sun system.
Its run by energy from the inner “sun” and the outer sun. How? Ask our brilliant Designer our dearest Lord and one and only God by your honest heart, and he will teach you.
Kindly save this hallucinatory horseshit for the next seance of your group of ‘satan-is-after-us’ demented dimwits.
Merci d’avance.
You have covered the very reasons why peak oil estimates have never, and never will come to fruition. Peak oil has been used for fear mongering propaganda to push the green scam agenda, put simply, it’s bollocks.
Could you kindly shut the fuck up about “Peak Oil” and examine the proposed facts?
Yup. This is the ‘abiotic’ theory of fuel generation. Ten years ago, I thought this was crackpot; but now I’d give it a listen.
Methane is made up from 2 Molecules of Hydrogen plus 1 atom of Carbon. Hydrocarbon oils and gases are made up from methane molecules strung together. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe, and Carbon is among the next most abundant. Not surprising there’s a lot of hydrocarbons (and carbohydrates) around on (and inside) the Earth.
Where is BigB with his EROEI when you need them?
Interesting, I haven’t come across a spring spouting Natural 95 (the gasoline I put in my car) in my entire life. Ditto diesel. Ditto natural gas or propane. No magic fountain where I could fill up.
Would you kindly advise me where one can find such an abundant source? I’d be most grateful.
I have noticed that a number of commenters on OffG have been busy trying to rehabilitate the “covid is real after all” meme as well as trying to dispense with any notion of a reset. It’s as if they are trying to reinstate the pre-2020 mentality by saying, “There’s nothing going on here after all. Let’s get back to the regular politics. Loosen up.” We are being directed back to the old theatre.
Covid is now part of our history. We cant run away from Covid.
Together with the vaxxes Covid is here, refuse to go away and will be in our hearts and minds forever.
Our inner and outer body is filled with Covid……at least those who took the whole menu.
Then we have the outcasts, the non-vaxxers, the minority who refused to be a part of mankind’s secret societies 😁 .
Covid, like seasonal flu is real for obese & fearful people, many of them elderly. They can be knocked down with a feather. Fear porn like Covid2! or Climate Change! is effective in psychologically wrecking them, which in turn weakens their immune systems.
For healthy people no problem, but how many of those still above in the West; 40%?
It isnt because theres no such thing. Get your head outta your hiney
But, the sufficiently perspicacious, having been tipped off by 9/11 and other shenanigans, thereby recognising Koolaid when they saw it, now know that things are getting serious – despite the current ‘lull’.
Coming Soon will be Pandemic II ‘This time it’s really deadly’
So, make sure you’re stocked up, and prepared for the frightened masses to demand the imposition of everything they were taught was a ‘good idea’ in Pandemic I, i.e. masks, lockdown, quarantine, vaccination, etc.
“Sweden” means the Wallenberg crime family (assets $1Trillion), same as Holland and England mean the Rotchschild crime family ( $6T). Any pronouncement from these 3 governments should be referred to the Serious Fraud squad.
Infinite growth in the sense of industrial growth is bullshit. Let’s put aside the premise that there are enough energy to fuel ongoing growth (transformation of physical shit) and recycle resources, and ask yourself – what is the purpose? What is the purpose of ‘growth’ in terms of creating not only more and more advanced devices that have long ago freed man from manual labor, but also inventing zillions of crap shit gizmos that satiate artificial needs people are conditioned to have with the sole purpose of making all this crap? Mankind is chasing a fucking mirage, forever anxiously anticipating yet another doodad that will be shinier that the piece of shit they already have. How does a new fucking car that can, say, park itself constitute ‘growth’? My car is 25 years old and delivers me perfectly to point B. Can you imagine the amount of resources and energy… Read more »
‘Infinite growth’ versus Great-Reset-induced artificial shortages is just another false binary, you know. There is a possible middle way: enough for all, but no billionaires. How about that?
Whyever the fuck do you have to invoke some non-existent Great Reset, a mirage wherewith your skull has been indoctrinated, in regard to the above comments about the nonsensical nature of infinite growth? The opposite to infinite growth, which is akin to a dog chasing his tail at an ever increasing speed, is a sustainable balanced existence corresponding to the physical constraints present on Earth. An existence that fucks up nothing, allows resources to be replenished, does not create deficits of any kinds. I hate to tell you, but if you want that kind of existence – and everybody should for the fucking sake of humankind and, more generally, life on this fucking planet – some level of “shortage” vis-a-vis the present availability of shit in the Occident will be necessary because the amount of fucking crap people consume is FUCKING HUMONGOUS. Talk about fucking GLUTTONY. I have no problem… Read more »
Let’s see, who were you before? What was that name?
That potty mouth musician from Czech Rep.
I believe those expletives of yours are carefully placed to convince us that you’re some kind of down-home, real-deal kinda guy (or girl or whatever). When, judging by your seemingly careless but actually carefully tuned remarks, I think your aim is to confuse issues, take up space, push down comments, etc. whether out of perversity or because that’s your shitty (there, I just placed one) job, or both. Personally, I’m neither affected nor impressed, but you do make a nuisance of yourself, and ought to be simply ignored (Albert and Zen seem also to have got your number).
It stands to reason that you could hardly be neither affected nor impressed impersonally, could ya.
BTW, if I ought to be simply ignored, why the fuck don’t you heed your own advice? You sure it’s not you who’s making a nuisance of yourself?
BTW, look up the meaning of expletive. Your entire rant would qualify.
OffGuardian is a little too wed to its theory that Covid never existed. Releasing a novel coronavirus that is even more benign than the flu, whilst using a test that cannot differentiate between them (and others) is surely equally likely.
It doesn’t follow that embracing the lab leak theory requires one to embrace the idea of a dangerous pandemic event.
There seems to be increasing evidence for the lab leak. Furthermore, why leave something so important to chance when Gain Of Function furnishes you with tools to make the fake a reality (of sorts). When will they use these bioweapons we know they have? Why would it not be now?
And i say again, just because it is real, does not mean it is dangerous, or created a pandemic, or justified any of the policies put in place as a result.
Why take the chance of releasing any new virus when you can achieve whatever you want purely through media manipulation and much more cheaply?
Why risk a mild flu season, making it harder to fake, when you can supplement it with something you already have.
How is it cheaper, when they’ve already spent a fortune on gain of function. The money is spent. Why wouldn’t you use it.
“Risk a mild flu season”? You think they fret about our health? They pushed the deadly fear of “the deadly plague” based on regular symptoms of any number of minor ailments. Mission accomplished.
And who knows what they “already spent” or where it really goes?
I regret getting involved with this particular thread since on a more considered perusal I must confess that I have no idea what this even means:
I honestly have no idea how the words in that sentence even connect up. The govt didn’t want to “make it harder to fake”? Making “flu” harder to fake?
No – I can’t even go there. Is this gaslighting?
Perhaps the alternative was a more serious disease such as SARS. The catch is that “scientific” medicine has yet to prove (demonstrate in the lab) something as basic as infection.
Probably. In my view it’s fruitless and distracting to argue over such matters in the first place. As long as we can agree on the threat of the new totalitarianism.
Why would anyone — Chinese, US, Russian — need to spend a fortune on gain-of-function research just to reinvent the flu?
Great sarc/on! Otherwise,
“Wow! A shit-eating Mammon Worshiper spills their hypocrisy”
“News at 11”
All you need to know about the Covid SARS test tube baby — going as far back as 1961 “Gain of Function” Lab at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill U$A — you can find in “Dr.David Martin addresses EU Parliament” on Youtube.
Viruses. Have. Never. Been. Proved. To. Exist.
As always, the interesting thing is not the lie, but the sheer transparency of it.
Viruses: hacking away at the existential underpinnings of the Matrix. Bring it on!
Worried about alienating people, who ‘aren’t ready for it’? Well, then you’ll never leave your house in the morning. Anyway, look around! Do you see this juggernaut being turned around any time soon? Share truth with truth-seekers. Bollocks to the rest.
That is patently not true, you tragically don’t understand what the fuck is going on.
The particles referred to as viruses certifiably do exist, only there function is questionable. Are they pathogenic particles? Are they exosomes, parts of collapsing cells? Some combination of the two? Something different altogether? Who knows. I don’t and you certainly don’t since you obviously ain’t got the first clue what the no-virus debate is all about.
Do you have curse at every single person you disagree with? What have we done to make you so angry?
Fuck, YES!
He’s playing you.
If “something” “is not”, and otherwise “is not” “it” can be “nothing else”.
You’re too coherent for your own good and for the simplistic nature of my simpleton self, man.
Try to speak the simple language of us simplistic morons, we might get somewhere.
Well, perhaps there is no such thing as a virus per se.
But unless all those documents, patent filings, Level 4 bio labs, the DOD, DARPA, Ralph Baric, UNC Chapel Hill, Gain of function work, Gain of function moratorium, end run around Gain of Function moratorium, work done by Fauci et al, just to name a few, unless all of that has been made up, then there is something that was going on.
Maybe it was “leaked” (doubt it), more likely it was planned.
You would have to prove that all of that bio weaponry was and is fake. ?
No. Since I’m not a diehard of the ‘no viruses’ theory, all I have to do is point out that the authorities have never proven that Covid-19 existed. I’m not questioning small pox, anthrax or anything else. I’m certainly not questioning colds or flus.
Or this:
2019/2020 flu cases – 38 million, Covid-19 cases: 0
2020/2021 flu cases – .0015 million, Covid-19 cases – 32 million
That is literally impossible, unless . .
We know what they did. It’s as easy to see as a “New Pearl Harbor”.
Many thanks for those hard numbers: short and sweet demonstration of Number Fudging by the Global Con-19 regime.
Well you should be, since it’s never been proven that ‘viruses’ cause colds and flus – which are simply a fairly routine process of bodily detoxification. They created the virus theory to sell drugs and terrorise the population, among many other objectives. There is toxic material and there is the body’s response to that. There is no such thing as a ‘virus’, it’s all 19th Century BS.
Will you kindly supply a scientific description of this alleged “bodily detoxification” process, with isolated, purified samples of the alleged toxins, the mechanism how the alleged detoxification takes place, why it happens in a contagious manner, whyever the fuck the body would “detoxify” itself in thereto life-threatening manner, etc. etc.
Kindly be as rigorous, if not more, in supplying scientific evidence to the above effect as you require of virologists to prove their theories.
Kindly refrain from any hallucinatory phantasms you might have an irresistible urge to invoke.
If you don’t have any of the above, which I’m afraid you don’t, kindly shut the fuck up about this craze until you do.
Merci d’avance.
Viruses can only be ‘seen’ with the aid of a radio microscope. I don’t claim to know much about viruses but I know plenty about radio microscopes and the digitization of electromagnetic emissions in general. And I can tell you all the evidence offered relating to the material existence of viruses is purely subjective interpretations of data by people whose best interests would not be served by questioning the received wisdom.
And the body does detoxify itself (have you never thrown up after eating something dodgy. Or if you want a life threatening detox look up the condition known as rhabdomyolisis.
Viruses arent real. We detox – thats it. Smallpox isnt a virus
One thing that covid has revealed is that long lasting labyrinthine multi-layered elaborate bullshit is the norm.
Why?
Oh, I have not doubt that they make things up.
But I believe there is a bioweapon program which includes gain of function.
I’m not attached to whether viruses exist or whether it’s terrain, but I do believe they are mixing and matching something.
Not to mention the poison injection.
I don’t know about anyone else, but it is absolutely astonishing and frightening around here with the amount of turbo cancers in young people.
3 in the last week locally. Women in their 30s/40s.
Someone quite close to me with lung disease from autoimmune reaction.
No one is mentioning the shot.
I know this is not news to readers here, but it’s a plague.
Viruses cannot be “released”. This is an idea propagated by the media. A “virus” as it exists under the current virology paradigm is a set of LETTERS: a,c,g,t in a computer file. It is literally nothing more than a fluorescence matrix coded to a long sequence of letters with the help of software. The debate about whether viruses exist or not is profoundly stupid. In the scientific world, viruses exist as a dataset of letters and they are hypothesized to have some clinical relevance. The whole field of virology is pretty shakey when it comes to clinical usefulness but that’s an entirely different debate. In the popular imagination, viruses exist as that green spikey ball with a sneering face that can fly through the air like Superman gone evil, claiming victims as they leap from one person to another. So people claiming that the evil green spikey ball does not… Read more »
Try and get some scientists to do some alternative research, something quantifiable. Until such time, I fear, you’re just some street corner loon railing at the powers that be.
So you think they haven’t already?
How do you think the Terrain Theory was developed?
Nocebo and ‘some toxins’ to explain observable contagion and disease are hardly scientific or quantifiable at this present time. Cowan’s waterborne bio resonance argument is certainly not the scrupulous level of science being demanded of virology. I’ve yet to see anything scientific, quantifiable, testable or repeatable from the terrain theory camp. 🤷♂️ I guess that doesn’t mean it’s wrong, but it certainly doesn’t make it right. A2
Thanks, Off-G, for your principled position on this issue. These days, it seems, we are either being herded into the ‘People are dying of viruses everywhere!’ camp or else we are being herded into the other extreme: no contagion at all. If not on the internet, then where is there room for a sensible center (i.e., we don’t know yet) on this issue?
Exactly.
As much as the no-virus people do have a point about the questionable nature of virology, and the does-virus-exist-and-if-so-what-is-it debate is interesting, the fanaticism and willingness to embrace any random phantasmagoria to “explain” disease exhibited by no-virusers is incomparably less scientific than the work of virology, as much as virologists might be wrong or erroneous.
Talk about double standard!
When all else fails, the no-virus-will-even-be-considered crowd haul out the body-detoxifying-itself trope.
I believe one of the Admins noted once that it was such a shame how sometimes the body detoxifies itself to death.
What do you expect when people abuse all manner of toxins, like cigarettes, alcohol, chemical drugs, medicine, processed food, no exercise, poor sleep habits, undisciplined financial management, and live a life burning the candle at both ends?
After 40 plus years of a life like that, how could anyone’s body cope with it all?
How many times does the medical system get to be a leading cause of death before people do something different?
How many times does Big Pharma get to kill people under the false pretence of a disease or virus before people open their freaking eyes and mind?
That people refuse to question the existing system, and continue to use it and comply with it, is only a sign of cognitive dissonance, not intelligence.
And you think you have seen scientific methods from the Germ Theory camp?
Quite possible that both are wrong, as most theories are.
I do know that virology, and their practices of pushing medicine, have caused greater harm or death, than any other theory. The only difference between medicine and poison is dosage.
Also, seeing as how Terrain Theory is the first real challenge to Germ Theory in at least the last 100 years or more, time will tell, assuming scientists actually perform research and experiments.
Doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results, is a form of insanity.
The point being, if there’s no quantifiable scientific evidence for virology (as alleged by some people) and ALSO no quantifiable scientific evidence for terrain theory (as alleged by me), then belief in either is just that, a belief. Neither is more legit than the other.
This is a gigantic RED HERRING, complete bullshit. The germ and terrain theories are perfectly complementary, one doesn’t refute the other. The point is simple, as I stated below. If medicine were to be tasked with taking care of terrain as opposed to germs, i.e. ensuring that terrain remains undamaged and impervious to germs, it would mean that medicine would have to take over essentially every aspect of people’s lives (anything might damage terrain and cause disease), as opposed to treating symptoms, which is the role of medicine now. Do these no-virus/terrain idiots realize what they’re calling for? If terrain is embraced, it would open the door to much worse a medical tyranny than convid ever was! What the fuck happened to people brains? Is it that hard to look just a few fucking inches beyond the tip of their nose? Boggles the mind … The only question is whether… Read more »
Yes, well said and thanks. I’ve been making that point for a long time on here. 😁
What exactly is the Terrain Theory? Do enlighten us! What, if not germs, causes the flu? Is it in the food? The water? The air? The clothes we wear? Is it radiation? Electrical towers? The 5G?
The main problem with the Terrain Theory at this point is that there seem to be a million and one Terrain Theories. There is still no consensus as to what causes something as common as the flu, or even colds.
The terrain theory is a perfectly legit concepts and, frankly, I don’t see why it would contradict the germ theory. They’re perfectly complementary. The terrain theory basically claims that if your body (terrain) is fucked up – and as you say, it might be fucked up in 1,000+1 ways – disease is liable to develop, once again for any number of reasons. Makes perfect sense and in fact it does work like that. Even the standard medicine would have no problem to acknowledge that. The germ theory claims that some diseases develop because of pathogenic particles. It makes perfect sense in the case of bacteria (germs). The microscopic motherfuckers are just as hungry and just as ruthless as, say, fucking lions, and will happily carnivorously munch on your flesh if given the chance – for instance because you’ve fucked up your terrain, weakened your body and given them a chance.… Read more »
The thing that comes closest to being scientific within the meaning of the aforestated is the German New Medicine, which links specific mental states to specific diseases.
You have something else, something specific? Something that describes the mechanism how this or that way in which the terrain is fucked up causes this or that specific disease? Do tell. I’m all ears!
I don’t disagree with your assertion regarding German New Medicine.
I would add to that many of the lost holistic medicines including Tissue Salts.
Also add, that the process of the body detoxifying is fever, coughing, vomiting and diarrhea. All means by which the body ejects toxins, like dead cell debris, that is currently asserted to be a virus.
Anyone that studies the history of “modern medicine”, and it’s undeniable link to Rockefeller, and other nefarious players, should have enough brains to understand it wasn’t developed to cure or help anyone, except TPTB.
Continuing to do the same thing over and over, and expecting different results, is a form of insanity.
If the PCR test can’t differentiate between the flu and ‘Covid-19,’ then how do we know ‘Covid-19’ ever even existed? Do you ever listen to yourself?
ITS NOT REAL FFS
I’ve got some land next to a nuclear power plant for sale. Anyone?
I will take it for zero net. 😉
Do you have land next to a solar plant too?
How about next to a towering windmill plant?
Maybe the Swedes are eyeing the potential of Thorium (Th) based nuclear power. There are pro’s and con’s, but the pro’s seem worth the investment. Of course, even if these reactors could eventully produce cheaper energy, the consumer would still be ripped off. The greedy energy companies are too habituated to raking in exorbident profits at the consumer’s expense.
For an insight into the pro’s & con’s of Th nuclear power:
https://vittana.org/16-big-thorium-reactor-pros-and-cons
“The greedy energy companies are too habituated to raking in exorbident profits at the consumer’s expense.”
That’s why China’s public utility companies are not run on a PPP basis. That’s why Russia pays less for more public utilities (including nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons) than the EU$A.
Vote Socialist at the next election. If you do not have a Socialist party in your country, form a cell and issue a manifesto.
“You can own all you like but you don’t own the government” — CCP.
If socialists ever stopped pushing clot-shots and CBDCs, I might consider them.
Can’t imagine why anyone would want to build new nuclear power stations of the current pattern. They’re just a pile of trouble — expensive to build, a nuisance to operate and difficult to decommission. The fundamental problem with the technology is that however well made the reactors are and regardless of how well they’re monitored and managed the neutron flow deteriorates the reactor casing leaving you with something with a finite lifespan that can only be dismantled with extreme difficulty and can’t be scrapped and recycled. The promise of cheap, clean, power has never been fulfilled. Nuclear power has enormous fixed costs that get heaped on the public through taxes and utility rates. Its possible that newer designs like the self-contained microreactors may mitigate some of these problems but there’s really nothing like having 20 tons of highly radioactive waste sitting in a pond by a closed power station, one… Read more »
https://un-denial.com/2023/01/28/by-monk-why-not-nuclear/
“Most so-called Civilian nuclear power plants were designed to be milked for Plutonium by product — to make bombs. Plutonium is the most dangerous atom known — a single atom could kill someone by inducing bone cancer. It is the minute traces of Plutonium in so-called Depleted Uranium Shells (courtesy of U$ & UK Department of Defense) that is causing birth defects in Iraq and Serbia — and will do the same in Ukraine if HMGov and NATZO have their way. I believe some civilian reactors are designed to burn more Plutonium and produce less of it for the DoD.
Thorium reactors do not produce Plutonium. China is setting up a trial Thorium power plant in the Gobi Desert. It may take half a century to evaluate it properly.
Ok too many liberals here. this planet has been many degrees warmer than it is now for millions of years on and off. It is still here Nature adapts, on or two degrees either way it compensates.
Nature always has and presumably always will compensate for even the most radical shifts in climate dynamics. However, it’s far from clear that the “higher” members of the animal kingdom will compensate and adapt along with nature.
Nature is perfectly willing to wait millions of years to return to an equilibrium between heat and cold. Many of us may not have quite that long to wait around.
This planet has been many degrees warmer, for long spells, millions of years and is still here. What cloth heads think that one or two degrees either way make the slightest difference.
Few people would ever imagine a few degrees could possibly wreck the planet and send it into Venus Syndrome. The problem is the effect such a heating – a rapid heating – may have on living organisms.
After all, humans are primarily concerned with how things affect them. A few degrees average increase in temperature could easily result in 130 degrees F (54.4 C) in some places.
Ironically, though, increases in average temperature appear to have a greater effect on cold locations than on hot locations. A place that hovers around the freezing point could reach a tipping point which could cause havoc.
Add to that the constant attempts (mostly by US military) to manipulate the atmosphere to make it more receptive to Full Spectrum Dominance and satellite function, and you have the perfect setup for dire consequences.
Besides the “few degrees”, the other major factors are (a) hubris and (b) unstoppable feedback on a planetary scale.
Every type of region is threatened, not just the cold ones. Hot, hottest, cold, coldest, dry, driest, wet, wettest… In each of these, the plnts, animals and people have adapted to, and can only take so much deviation from, the climate they are accimatised to.
Water vapour dispersion is the greatest driver of ‘climate change’.
Obviously we must, as a global society, move towards: Net-Zero Water Vapour.
But that would make far too much sense.
C’mon man, how would we power everything without water vapour dispersion, (call it different names of course, like jet-fuel, etc.) ?
The IPCC solution to that pesky problem was to exclude water vapour as a greenhouse gas.
It’s all the same horseshit. They introduce potential debating points about the methodology to underline the fact that the end goal is sacrosanct.
You are way too hard on the Swedes. They do a few things right, and COVID was one of them. The fact that they have backed down at all is a refreshing alternative to the dogged, senseless march towards dystopia in this country. NY State has recently banned gas stoves and ordered pizzerias to install scrubbers on their coal- ad wood-fired stoves. I’ll take “sensible” over f*****g insanity any day.
What I suspect Sweden is doing is what every country will have to eventually do: coming to terms with the fact that climate engineering (aka chemtrails) is here to stay.
There is less “good” sunshine (i.e., without so much UV radiation which the ozone layer used to restrict) for solar panels to work properly.
And there is less overall wind (except where the climate engineers set it up) for wind turbines to function as intended.
As per the documentary “Planet of the Humans,” there may soon be a push for fat burning generators to move to the forefront. This could explain the demonizing of animals as food sources. Their fat is now needed to help “save the planet” that their farts nearly destroyed.
I’m thinking more in terms of Soylent Green is what they are planning.
I don’t know if this is sarcasm. But are we really so powerful that we can control all of the earth’s wind? In our dreams, I feel lol
Also, is there any reason to believe the ozone layer is depleted and sunlight is no longer ‘good’?
I do apologise if I’m missing the satire. A2
Look into HAARP. Look into documented military plans to control the weather. Think they can’t do it? They can and they do, every single day where I live. They openly make snow in places that shouldn’t have it, all one need do to generate wind is help along a clash of cold and hot air, to put it very simply. That’s where HAARP comes in. Call me a whack job if you must, but at least look into it a bit before you go there. It isn’t satire, at all.
♥ I know, Lizzyh7, with my own eyes & from many decades previous to the M.i.c,
Just how to resonate and evoke heat and Windrush, any where you would like
‘One’ to initiate, any Societal change… from sustained Weathering !
The D.o.D declared their ‘instrumentation’ legal & legitimate, unilaterally in 1997.
To quote: ” as Force Multiplier “… simples.
Many Many other significant changes occurred, simultaneously…
Study that year on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange e.g.
Or, Gordon Brown relinquishing financial control
Of interest rates… you can make a HOTSPOT, with
H.A.A.R.P. even the kind that creates THERMAL WINDS ! !
Way above us, just not the kind of hotspot that Sam has the
Slightest clue about… Atmospheric ionospheric Mirrors.
A.I.M.s.
Wise Up.
Balky.
That & other discussions, that get stunted or mocked, is why you appear as a gatekeeper not a Moderator/Administrator.
Plausible deniability is a fantastic grey area. But it’s, also in this instance, a way to demean those that don’t hold mainstream views. Which is my entire problem with you & this outlet. You “Rebel” in certain areas, Covid, obvious Punch & Judy “Wars” yet in other areas, you appear oblivious & mock those that express non MSM, Indoctrinated views.
I believe you are a Jewish Lawyer. I didn’t want to comment here, as i don’t trust this outlet or many of its commentators. But,if allowed, I’ll ” comment” here.
Yes, weather modification, is a thing. As is plausible deniability.
Lol perhaps I am a Jewish lawyer, who knows?! What relevance that is, only you can know.
I do find it hard to believe we control the wind to the extent inferred above. If there’s any evidence of that I’d be very interested to know.
Humanity’s innate hubris, perhaps stemming from past species trauma responses, leads us to believe we have this inordinate power over raw nature. Do we really, though? It might be the same logic that leads us to believe earth is so fragile some herds of McDonald’s cows will destroy its climate. In fact our planet has successfully recovered from multiple mass extinction events in geological history, before our recent appearance.
It’s the cosy, faux-apocalyptic cognitive dissonance that’s encouraged in us all, which makes us easier to control, many argue.
I think we could be in for a shock. A2
One of the things usually and most unfortunately overlooked is that what has happened in the past fails to account for the human – indeed: the animal – element.
There’s no question the Earth will weather the storm, so to speak. But the Earth has all the time in the world. We don’t.
You could be in for a shock, young man…
When it comes to physics, you are truly clueless !
I don’t quite know where to begin with such a flippant nature,
Such is yours !
Lame 😝
Give them a chance to catch up, they thought fluoride was put into the main system only last year. 😂
Your source please, or shut it 😉
Our water & sewer are constantly monitored by our breweries at the Public Works.
No, Ozone depletion is another hoax; it’s natural & seasonal.
The natural fluctuation is not so much seasonal as it is location specific. For example, it is said that the sun’s UV rays are strongest and the ozone layer thinnest over Punta Arenas, Chile.
But then it’s also said to be thinning more rapidly over the Tropics. So clearly there is some controversy.
Sarc alert! Howerd is extrapolating insane proposals to their farcical conclusion.
What does “Sarc” mean? I’m unfamiliar with that term.
Sarc, abbr of Sarcasm; a type of joke named from the Greek Sarko flesh. Unkind humour that metaphorically bites into flesh. Cf Irony.
HARP is a false lead. The HARP program was part of the weather manipulation program, however was dumped by the Navy and AF and handed over to academia.
The real tool used to manipulate weather on land, outside of cloud making and chemical seeding using ships on the oceans, is the Doppler Radar Network.
If you research the Doppler Radar map for your country, you will find that they are located in all the key areas, like a net. While it is true that this radar is what gives us real time images of the weather, these devices are also used to generate specific frequencies that can be used to manipulate the weather.
Weather Control has been a major strategic goal for TPTB since WW1 and gases being mitigated by weather when deployed.
No, it’s not satire on my part. There have actually been measurements of the ozone layer (which apparently is a very thin layer to begin with) – I’ve linked to a video about it.
UVC: The Sterilization Of Planet Earth, Part One » UVC: The Sterilization Of Planet Earth, Part One | Geoengineering Watch
As to being able to control Earth’s wind – the point is the climate engineers keep trying; and they succeed at least on a modest scale.
“climate engineers keep trying; and they succeed at least on a modest scale.”
OK. On a modest scale because the weather is not so delicately poised.
Nevertheless some human groups have wrecked their own local environment on their own modest local scale. For instance Plato bemoaned how trees on the hills were being chopped down to make the Athenian Navy “until only the bare bones are left”. One can see this denudation of hillside continuing today around the entire Mediterranean Riviera. I live in a little town in green Galilee called Tivon (“Nature”) which boasts some remnants of the original Mediterranean Oak hill cover that was sacred to Zeus in ancient Greece (before ancient Greeks cut it down to build their Navy, and modern developers moved in to build a squalid horror of “Quick Buck Architecture” in Athens).
They may locate the “fat burning generators” in gyms, and require every citizen to contribute in order to maintain his Social Credit score.
We can expect more wind turbines and other construction to degrade wind energy extracted. A 2011 essay by Axel Kleidon suggeted that the energy we can extract is far less than the theoretical total.
However In the U.K again not reported by alt media.
Conservative party
Rishi Sunak to Hit U.K Households With £170 Net Zero Levy Within Days.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/06/24/levy-net-zero-green-tory-rishi-sunak-this-week-170-pounds/
That’s a worrying trend for a Brit chum in a street house on 440 per month. Yea 110 quid a week. Instead of beating around a bush fretting over uncontrolable fictionals, such as british Bricks and double the Volts. It pretty much means who’s household and what constitutes a family and the good old essentials.
One important aspect to nuclear power, is that it makes a country just as dependent on Russia as it would with a cheap supply of Russian oil & gas.
Via Russia’s hold on the supply of enriched uranium. Nearly half of the world’s enriched uranium being produced in Russia.
https://www.rt.com/russia/578087-us-buying-uranium-russia/
So the choice becomes:
Being reliant on Russia AND keeping the ‘renewable energy’ project alive
OR
Being reliant on Russia with NO ‘renewable energy’ project
An important factor Russophobia-orientated countries should take into consideration when considering their futures.
From 2009-2013 Russia acquired 20% of US uranium reserves in 3 transactions while Mrs. Clinton was Sec. of State and her husband was collecting millions in donations from persons connected with Uranium One. Per NY Times correction added 4/30/2015, while Hillary was Sec. of State, Clinton Foundation was still allowed to accept donations from foreign governments. It was also permitted to seek waivers from Hillary’s office if donations fell outside standards….4/23/2015, “Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal,” NY Times, Jo Becker, Mike McIntire (Print ed., 4/24/2015, page A1, NY edition with headline: “The Clintons, The Russians and Uranium.”)…US elites have no problem with Russia or any other country, their main enemy is US taxpayers. Endless global genocide is financed by enslavement of US taxpayers. They already have other targets lined up to flatten after Russia.
Climate Change, sustainable energy and Net Zero are just euphemisms for people changing and waking up to the nefarious agenda of the elite, no energy for the useless eaters, and population control.
We are the Climate
We are the Carbon
The only thing TPTB want to be zeroed is We the People of the world.
As in Zero threat to their continued dominance.
Anything “sustainable” is just a code word for economic and spiritual war against We the People.
Thank you Thomas. Well said.
The very term sustainable should be sent packing. There is no such thing. Nothing finite can be “sustained” indefinitely. The idea should be to limit the need for quite so much energy that we end up depleting what we have.
“Easy” energy is a thing of the past – otherwise they wouldn’t be spending money on things like fracking and tar sands, and even considering mining the ocean floor. The term “peak oil” actually refers to easy sources of oil, that’s all.
It isn’t about spending currency, it is about control.
As long as energy is something we have to pay for, then they have control.
There is plenty of energy in our atmosphere that no one should have to pay for energy.
Sweden is the face of Scandinavia these days and has crawled into bed with the US since the Assange frame up took shape there , and is engaged in filthy behavior that would cause Clinton/Biden , Epstein , and Trump to blush . Even Obomber is rumored to have dallied with the Danish PM , an attractive Scandinavian blonde woman at Mandela’s funeral . If the look on his wife Michelle’s face is any testament ? Europe seems to have forgotten that Scandinavia is the origins of Vikings who once managed the white slave trading centers of Dublin and Kiev !
They’re still trying to keep the con game that is capitalism going?
It’s the only game in town; they’ve closed all the other ones down with an offer they couldn’t refuse.
From the Euractiv article:
“….giving the right-wing government the green light….The new right-of-centre coalition says….”
Is there some significance in this constant underlining of “Right Wing” governments? What is the media hydra fermenting here? Is this a prelude to the sentiment “Look these Right Wing forces have moved in the correct direction. They are ‘seeing sense’. But, being Right Wing, they haven’t gone far enough!”
It is typical leftist insinuating wooly language.
You have to guess what they mean, but the word tells you clearly a little contempt is in the air. Wrinkling your nose when you say “right-wing”.
Both appear unethically linked imo speaking of which is Russia allied over the Artificial intelligence problemic robotical despite the Political climate over Ukraine. I doubt it for that to happen it would have encompass Asia China intercontinental.
What does “problemic robotical” mean?
The successful Attack from the Left, by George Soros, has captured the U$ Democrats and European Socialists. Hence the false contrary “Right Wing”.
Traditional Conservativism (roots, nation, family, home, decency, truthfulness, modesty, moderation and personal integrity) is the new Right Wing Extremism. Rootlessness, indecency, falsehood, bribery, venality, corruption and naked force are the New Left.
Tony B.Liar, prominently public Christian and non-voting director in House of Rothschild (iwth his “modest fortune” of $100 Million) is their patron Saint Anthony
As Phil Hartman might say, You are correct, sir. If you are a sir.
Weird! I just had a dream about Phil Harman last night. Except that, in the dream, he was playing Ronald McDonald rather than Ed McMahon — a very different clown. 😉
New info on “Russian coup” regarding the role of Russian Intelligence. Please see my just-posted comment & link on Off-G’s June 24 article about same.
5G TOWERS BURN in Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Cyprus, Ireland. Supposedly 50 5G towers in UK & EU have been destroyed. Is this for real?
Here’s the link, but there’s no info
https://cairnsnews.org/2023/06/22/another-5g-tower-bites-the-dust-in-europe-uk-lost-50-so-far/
I doubt it’s true; anyone have any info?
Sure. Its fake planted by Intelligence.
It is an insinuation there is sick jerks in the society who cut the steel mesh to break into the fenced 5G mast, climb up in the top of the 5G masts with a Jelly can of gasoline and throw it over the 5G plates.
Then they are claimed to use a lighter or a match to lit the gasoline, and then they climb down and run away.
Its equal to the amateurish famous new Syrian passports found near the crime place.
Mayor’s and Governors appear in the news and warn about these resistant “maniacs” who got everything wrong.
It is an act to smear and take people’s natural objection up front.
I dunno, Erik– there’s so much anti-govt distrust brewing in my neighborhood that I think people might cheer.
Also the idea of destroying 5G towers seems to be coming out of conspiracyland and is being disseminated there, not in mainstream.
At any rate unlikely to be factual.
There was a report in the UK press recently about an activist group actually deleting some local UK towers. The story was framed as ‘just following the French’ – ’cause the French have been showing a bit of spirit deleting some towers. I wish i was younger.
Actually I wish it was true, that somebody cut these towers down, erected behind peoples back. But the factual story is too far out.
But there are probably a few who got close..
It’s called “Monkey wrenching”. Very popular with some American Deep Ecologists a few decades ago. Edward Abbey’s “The Monkeywrench Gang” – a great read.
jubal, Thanks for the info. There are studies indicating the danger of 5G– but I guess you know that.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/5g-cell-towers-microwave-syndrome/
Here’s something from Childrens Health
Monkey Wrench is a 20th century revamp of 19th century British Luddites with a dash of U$ Walden and Johnny Appleseed. Should go down a treat with OffG readers.
First 2 wks of December 2023 COP-28 UN Climate Change Conference
Thierry Meyssan says Russians will oppose the increased-CO2 origin of global warming, and even the idea that the warming is global. Thierry’s short article summarizes the POLITICAL history of the GW theory.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article219438.html
Thanks, Penelope. RFK is a serious contender so I take notice — while reserving judgment — of these 2 anecdotes from your Link:
5G Towers Can Make Healthy People Sick, Two Case Reports ShowA new case report on two previously healthy men who developed “microwave syndrome” symptoms after a 5G cell tower was installed on the roof of their office, and a similar report published last month, show that non-ionizing 5G radiation can cause health problems in people with no prior history of electromagnetic sensitivity.
By Suzanne Burdick, Ph.D.
There’re better ways with nuclear energy only the fools ignorant uneducated find it a conveince to laugh over at their own wine and melting brie cheese parties. Sitting being as merely questioning a nessessaty, flying can also be an opportunity to observe the roofs of people’s homes without any invasion of that families privacy. It’s easily explainable for myself owing to my own Brit fascination of brick stone tile and slate. And how we built out of our essential needs very much, I believed was a reflection on how Greeks and our friends Italians and Spanish also constructed. This was even more soo confirmed when I loved the first opportunity of travelling by ship to the Mediterranean in the mid ’60’s.
By Regions what do you Gents think.?
Simply stated, it is categorically impossible to reach ‘netzero.’ That is categorically impossible with or without nuclear. It is also categorically impossible to have infinite growth with a finite resource base; that is finite ecological resources (plus reserves) and finite ecological sinks…. But that never bothered anybody up to now. Therefore, the human economic population as civilisation has had impossible targets, fantasy objectives and imaginary goals for at least the last 200y; in the period we call “modernity” or the ‘enlightenment’ or the ‘Age of Reason.’ It is also well known that Neoclassical Economics has a perpetual motion engine as its central model. It is equally well known that there can be no perpetuum mobile…. But that never bothered anybody up to now. As a builder, every time I get an enquiry I have to sit down and work out quantities, availabilities and so on. Human-being assumed infinite growth without… Read more »
Bryan, today’s resources AND economic growth do indeed resemble “infinite” if you compare them to neolithic times, or even the 15th century. Those who argue against “infinite growth” seem never to appreciate the endless creativity of the human mind.
Hydrocarbons are abiotic, and there are an incredible array of unused mega-finds, several times more than what has previously been exploited.
Primary Water, an incredible reserve of freshwater several times larger than all the oceans, awaits only our overthrow of TPTB who sequester that knowledge:
http://www.hydrol-earth-syst-sci.net/5/569/2001/hess-5-569-2001.pdf
I am not informed as to the relative scarcity of any resource which is truly indispensable to our civilization, but if the lies about these two are any indication. . . .
Four libtards freaking out? Your comment should be obligatory in all ground schools.
There is common misconception that the human mind is an infinite resource and therefore as missing factor of production (the “Solow Residual”.) The missing factor of production is energy and matter. There is a whole critique on this as it is a major point of difference between Neoclassical economics and ecological economics (cf. “Energy and the Wealth of Nations” Klitgaard and Hall.) Human ingenuity is the major factor of recovery when applied to human scale, intermediate tech, regenerative agroecological futures. It is not like people have not been working on this for decades, or millennia if you include indigenous wisdoms. The whole point is missed when we consider mass industrial expansion essential, if not actually sacred to ‘civilisation.’ Essential for what? Sacred to whom? Infinite growth of what is the crux of the problem. What is it that needs to grow to exponentially to appropriate the whole earth as a… Read more »
If we Keep listening to What comes out of The Ground. You are FAT! 76% overweight. 100 Years. Go by NATION and Shore Lines.
Your take on the durability of Earth’s resources (in and of itself incorrect) fails to allow for the exponential growth of industry.
You are quite correct when you speak of human ingenuity – but, as with most things, it’s a double edged sword.
Run out of ever new and increasing things to do and the capitalists go broke – simple equation. More of everything is good for business. More high rises, more cars, more robots, more Earth gouging machines, more wars, more weaponry.
To deny that the dark side of human nature has generally prevailed is to miss the essence of the problem facing us.
It’s hard to encompass everything in individual comments, but if you read any of my other comments (and there is no reason you should); trying to account for the human need to expand exponentially is precisely what I am getting at. What is it that we feel the need to double, implicitly or explicitly? Also I have been trying to expose the dark side of exponential human nature, which is what “net imperial appropriation” and “ecological unfair exchange” addresses. Pretty much everybody in the last few hundred years has been on the behavioural biofeedback treadmill of continuous expansive ‘progress’ toward….? And that expansion has grown to the species-scale including the invention of the whole array of technical apparatuses that are themselves determined toward an end, an end that justifies the whole earth as disposable means — to what end is worthy of jeopardising species viability? Jacques Ellul posed the same… Read more »
GB Politics & The Vote. Nov. 18-68-18. Our Lady is the Co-operative Society. Community communities. Thats us.
Will you please give it a rest., and belt up over what you think we should Eat & Drink. For God’s sake.
No one hear wants to acknowledge anything is finite. Global industrial capitalist society is unsustainable, we’re climbed up a branch and it’s snapping behind us and we insist on moving ahead and now act like spoiled children to any notion that the system itself is unsustainable, everyone has become dependent upon it. Nine years ago, my then Website partner Tod Fletcher (now deceased) and i wrote this comment on the article i’m linking to. “Finally, someone has written an article which bridges the gap between two forms of opposition to the global capitalist status quo. One form is the traditional, Marx-informed critique of capitalism as a mode of production defined by a particular set of social relations. The other is a more recent type of critique of the industrial society which has developed under capitalism, a critique informed by ecological science and awareness of resource depletion. Adherents of this newer… Read more »
Your Marxist analysis of unchecked “commodity capitalism” is very similar to that of the Christian Left: namely, the question of Fare Share, Fair Price, and Productive Use versus Intrinsic Value.
Nature is rooted in contradiction. Logic is Either/Or but Nature is Both/And.
“Well done! Thou good and faithful steward who hath increased my capital …”
versus
“Consider the flowers of the field, they toil not ….”
There is no left right never has been in the English language only in political circles removed from everyday people in universities, outwardly discussing in their environment faminaler surroundings. Simply put reality of which over the previous one hundred years is an central over ethical principle of any given reassurance put forward pressing on our regions governmental authorities in our Capital City.
Thank you
Brilliant comment Jeff (RIP Tod.) As a recovering Marxist, I hear you both. Marx is still relevant, but only in a re-evaluated form (cf. Hornberg, Burkett and Foster, Malm et al) — loosely “ecological Marxism.” The sort of analysis I am involved in is mostly psychological, as a recovering “Deleuzoguattarian” that is basically material ecosophy. Enough of labels, that basically means that the money-form is materially reduced to “quasi-abstract” status and ‘capital’ really is fictitious — the M-M’ “enrichment of enrichment” is almost completely unreal; >90% of money is truly a digital simulacra and a claim on future growth that cannot happen. If the growth scenario cannot exponentiate — the value of money is virtual. Everybody knows money is created ex nihilo; less seem to know that it mostly remains virtual and ex nihilo. Its value is dependent on social agreement and future productivity that is impossible. Therefore the social… Read more »
RE. Unlimited growth. Glad to report that Marx’ and Engels’ understanding and critique of the capitalist mode of production included the inadequacy of unlimited production, which implies unlimited growth. As far as I have been able to learn, this critique perhaps doesn’t express itself literally in terms of the “impossibility of unlimited growth in a world of finite ressources” but in the ingenious way that the capitalist production is described as an anarchy, hence without regard to actual human needs: “Modern socialism is, in its essence, the direct product of the recognition, on the one hand, of the class antagonisms existing in the society of today between proprietors and non-proprietors, between capitalists and wage-workers; on the other hand, of the anarchy existing in production.[Emphasis added]” (1) And therefore, the critique covers not only the capitalist peculiar relations of production but also its anarchy out of harmony with our… Read more »
Really, perhaps its simply explained as People Home & Away., or words to that effect. It’s been a school boy dictum in the British Isles since 1800., 1900 and beyond up to an individuals current circumstance. You’ll note it’s purely natural and appreciative of what others may say overhearing their conservation s.
Cheers
Fossil fuels will no longer be available after 2047, geothermal is destined to be the primary energy source from that point on. Consequently, everything has to ‘go electric’.
Similarly, all food has to ‘go insect’. Get those ‘like-prawn’ fried rice recipes sorted out soon! Livestock and fresh veg are going bye-byes.
This would be very clear to you if you were fully informed, i.e. you are missing a few vital pieces of information.
Ignoring the last bit; fossil fuels are no longer available in the quantity and at the price (nearly free compared to human labour) we need to sustain our current levels of energy-complexity. Art Berman is your man there. The need to go electric can only supply a certain portion of our needs. A big deficit is in the logistics and distribution of, well, everything. No amount of EVs or Tesla batteries can replace FFs; therefore we ain’t going electric any time ever without reducing complexity and embedded miles. That means we ain’t flying stuff all across the world to expropriate labour at the cheapest price. GRAIN, Vandana Shiva and a whole lot of others studies impress that we can replace the FF powered “Green Revolution” with better yields, more biodiversity, recovering water tables, low toxicity, and less psychological harm to farmers, particular indigenous semi-subsistence farmers. Livestock and fruit and veg… Read more »
Schwab’s ‘vision’ is not on offer. It is inevitable. His kindness is giving those who can read between his lines, a ‘heads up’.
The Great Reset will arrive around 2047.
If you make it to that point, then you will most likely be eating insects, owning nothing, and yet being happy. You will also be very much looking forward to building back better – with efficient electric vehicles (thanks to the push toward them) and electricity generation (non FF).
If you understand the future, you can understand how TPTB are preparing mankind for it.
Is that you, Lord Rothschild? Such an honor to have you here patronizing our humble website! 😂
Your ilk have been planning our lives with 5-year, 20-year… plans and tried to fit us into those plans for eons because “you were worried for humanity” as per your “predictions”. I’m quite familiar with that mindset for I’ve read quite a bit from the literature of the think tanks like the Trilateral Commission, RAND, CFR, etc. The only thing you lot never abandon is your F. empiricism that sees in any phenomenon you don’t F. like its own F. cause, so: Remove the phenomenon by all means required, never mind what caused it. Contrary to what Bryan, Strahl and many contributors here are trying to convey, your ilk never go to the primary causes of problems because it means your miserable wallet as think tanks; as simple as that. You say I’ll be eating insects by 2047? Well my worry over that particular prediction thus nakedly formulated is as… Read more »
“to meet the insatiable human demand for…. Well, what exactly is it we want?”
Excellent comment. Having just re-read “The Everlasting Man” by GKC, the answer seems to be: “We want to see God”.
We, the hairless ape species, late comers on this little speck of stardust at the “unfashionable end” of an insignificant galaxy lost among the trillions of galaxies in God’s glorious Universe, want to see God.
“In our Father’s house are many mansions”.
Dream and play, Little Children, but don’t quarrel so much and try not to be naughty.
You ain’t far wrong: the human obsession with the supernatural, supersensible, and supramundane ‘other world’, ‘next world’ or ‘afterworld’ is what ‘we’ are working toward. Only, there ain’t one. Which is why I have been reading Nietzsche again. Not for solutions but to understand the moral (mortal?) need to imagine a world beyond this world, a better world, a superior world driving the “will-to-nothingness,” Is this world not enough?
Sweden has enjoyed a very high standard of living for many many decades now. As has the other Scandinavian countries, Denmark included. Sparse populations, 25 Million tops all included? But most assuredly residing in the high plains of Capitalism/Consumerism/Materialism perhaps wokism too. When you’ve much to lose,like them,many ,as now, as always, will comply themselves to death to keep it all. The Carbon they want to eliminate is you. But due to the inbred materialism. Many prefer to go down with “their” consumerist accoutrements. Those countries have been subjected to a different type of Social Experiment. It’s made them entitled ,spoilt & pacified. “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to believe what is” ~ Soren Kirkegaard (A Dane) ( I apologise for sullying the comments sectio previously. Been relapsing heavy lost hope acted the C, doesn’t condone it, but… Read more »
Misquoted
“There are two ways to be fooled: One is to believe what isn’t true. The other is ti refuse to believe what is true.
This “It’s not my fault I just work here” reach, is not gonna help anyone, by accident of birth, was born in “1st World Countries”
We fell more the lies & the hubris it instilled in, too many. The Devil is coming to collect. They’ve billions who see it as “it” does.
Sorry, but many of you kept voting for it.
Which nuclear and which is better? There are two nuclear fuel elements:
Uranium and thorium.
There are three nuclear fuel cycles:
Fissionable uranium-235 isotope representing 0.7% of all uranium.
Fertile uranium-238 isotope representing 99.3% of all uranium which when it absorbs a neutron will eventually breed into fissionable plutonium-239.
Fertile thorium-232 which when it absorbs a neutron will eventually breed into fissionable uranium-233.
There are two physical states to hold the nuclear fuel in:
Solid which means that the fission products will remain trapped and the waste from uranium 235 has components that will last 300,000 years.
Liquid which allows for the fission products to be subjected to chemical separation processes while the reactor is in operation and the waste from thorium 232 is much less than uranium and has components that will last only 300 years.
As with the Electric Car hustle being run By Mr Musk with the aid of many greedy governments . The technology to safely operate nuclear power stations long term does not exist . And with all the world’s resources now being poured into weapons manufacture investment In EVs or nuclear power has all but ceased . Musk required an embargo be placed on cheap Chinese EVs in order to flog the overpriced junk he has already built .
Overpriced new cars is an understatement all round. As for their so-called innovation..You can add that to the woes over the last 40 years with my blessing imo.
Thorium nuclear power appears to be hypothetical so far. No examples of it being built and working that im aware of
Thanks for hard data.
“Speech is free but facts are expensive” — Technology Proverb.
PS Corrosion by molten salts were a problem of some advanced nuclear reactor designs in the 1960s. I believe this problem still haunts the new thorium design — but thankfully, leaks will be less radioactive.
It has long been painfully obvious to anyone capable of infromed thought, that the current rate of technological “progress” and addiction to tech is only “sustainable” with nuclear energy. Every single “environment” campaigner who is against nuclear energy but uses computers, phones and cars is a hypocrite and/or a victim of globo-capital’s greenwashing propaganda.
The “energy” problem is really a systemic problem, the result of the global industrial capitalist system, which requires infinite exponential growth to stay alive, let alone grow, never mind that we live on a finite problem. The “green new deal” is a hoax, would require a lot more energy.
Between the Devil and the Green New Deal, Jasper Bernes, in Issue 2 of Commune Magazine, Spring 2019.
https://communemag.com/between-the-devil-and-the-green-new-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3xMD3acS82ZDMCGS_Mh81UFRlq5Ns08s6Q-Dhvn_GAHZH6hm9m9xnhJT0
Absent TPTB and there wd be no energy problem. Capitalism within a framework of law is the ONLY system that can preserve the free enterprise that is so much a part of our freedom.
What we have now is NOT capitalism; it’s fascism. But I’m sure you know that.
I’m not at all sure that nuclear power is necessary, but I bow to your superior knowledge in the matter.
“not at all sure that nuclear power is necessary, but…”
But it’s there!
Why else do tourist parties climb Mount Everest?
That’s “…finite planet,” not “..finite problem.” 😀 (one could argue they’re one and the same).
Lets get things straight and take it from basis: Net Carbon or CO2 “problem” is a financial instrument invented on a desk in Goldman Sachs offices. There is the real CO2 that nature use and farmers pump into their green houses, and there is a false CO2 that the financial world operates with. Same with Clima change and the Weather. False version versus real version. The reason why they invented Clima change as a problem, is that Wall Street cant control or manipulate the sales figures on the basis of the stupid unpredictable weather, why weather was labelled a problem for Wall Street’s profit schemes. When you knows this basis it becomes obvious why Sweden and approx all other countries jump on the carbon waggon. It is as always about money……and taxation. If you dont jump into the BIS, IMF, ECB, World Bank or a Central Bank circus, you cant… Read more »
“why Sweden and other countries jump on the carbon waggon. It is as always about money”.
Sweden is basically the Wallenberg Crime Family (assets $1Trillion), as Holland, UK and France are the Rothschild Crime Family (assets $6Trillion) and the U$A is the United Crime Families.
Yes, of course. The ‘green banking’ scam. It’s been around a while now. This ad (seems almost like parody, though it wasn’t) is from 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjKxGCgO8E
on “Sweden pushed for no lockdowns and “early treatment” and herd immunity, but all of that actually served to underline that there was an actual pandemic that needed dealing with. Reinforcing the official story through carefully orchestrated dissent.” one might be interested in this substack post with vid https://sagehana.substack.com/p/sweden Person in Vid talks “Sweden behaved completely differently during COVID..they idn’t do lockdowns and regulations other countries did because they are so good and don’t want to hurt human rights…” “My speculation is they (Sweden) didn’t do what they do, not because they are so good, but because they don’t need to. Because COVID was a springboard to put in place the digital idea, the infrastructure of Green Pass, the Covid Pass , QR code…” “and They got it for years… Its fully Digitized country.. They didn’t need to comply people into submission. …. People are used to scanning themselved all… Read more »
The fact remains the Swedes did not force masks on children and adults ( for months on end), and did not lock down, probably because the various officials involved are not as easily corruptible by global capital.
No. They did it because they knew that there is no such thing as Covid and that the plannedemic was a staged psyop. COVID-19 = CON JOB-1984
“You will own nothing and be happy” – Klaus Schwab, WEF
#youwilleatthebugs
The difference between believe and to know.
Then why did they do social distancing? And why didn’t Tegnell point out what we all know: no one has ever isolated ‘Covid-19’ in laboratory?
Swedish officials are as corrupt as they come: vide Julian Assange stitch up. Their leniency on masking and gathering is more of a UK Royals or Boris Johnson Partying junket than an abstention from enforcing Con-19. No country run by a family as rich as the Wallenbergs could opt out of imposing Con-19 on their gullible public.
That was exactly the conclusion I came to after watching the Swedish experiment (if I may call it that) for a few months back in 2020: the reason they never did a lockdown is simply because they didn’t need to. The Swedes have become so submissive and conformist that they will do pretty much anything authority tells them to without having to be broken first. Check out this video of Swedes getting chips implanted in their hands. It’s from 2019!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl_gemn9a9E
Once I realized how submissive and broken they already were, I stopped admiring the Swedes so much and started pitying them — and us! After all, that’s our future too … if we don’t resist.
good to know that “Chipping” started way before 2020 CONvid era, Video i linked has segments from your YT vid as well.
One person in vid i linked states that Swedish are very Obedient society – or has became obedient !
What I wonder is as follows. Obviously, the there-is-no-climate-change crowd don’t believe there is climate change – in which they’re probably more or less correct, at least in the sense of climate change being man-made (or woman-made or transmotherfucker-made in case you’re a transmotherfucker, to be sexually correct – oh, I forgot faggots, so, faggot-made too) – and they keep refuting everything the world’s governments impose using this pretext. There is, however, either happening or impending or eventual serious problem with the availability of energy and therefore the viability let alone sustainability of the current socioeconomic model that is entirely dependent on readily available cheap energy. There is ample info on this subject under these links: surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com ourfiniteworld.com/author/gailtheactuary un-denial.com So, here is the question: Are the world’s movers and shakers basically aware of the collision course on which the world and are they using climate change as a smokescreen or… Read more »
There is a scratch on the LP.
Roserval, Peak Oil has long been disproved. I personally have at least 3 times printed a partial list of unexploited mega-finds of oil & gas. They are unexploited as part of the war of TPTB on world population, just like the ridiculous AGW theory that flies in the face of any attempt to look at REAL temperature data.
Regarding ludicrous Peak Oil, here’s just one link
https://journal-neo.org/2015/10/09/oh-oil-where-is-thy-peak/
It’s by the redoubtable William Engdahl.
Like unlimited growth and perpetual motion , renewable energy is a delusion that has justified all manner of profiteering , ironically mainly in weapons systems’ manufacture,and the propaganda industry aka ” marketing ” since being introduced as the boogeyman in the1960s . In those days it had an anti war component , these days it does not . All the little Gretel’s want their enemies killed or imprisoned , immediately !
Too true.
Oh! these Green Girls!
Thank goodness Anna Lizard got the sack.
Sweden was such a beautiful place to visit. Nice architecture, food and friendly people.
Now its like the rest of Europe, the proverbial sh.t hole of crime and decay.
I know someone from Sweden he’s been sick to death over all the immigration and cultural crime waves.
Swedes in the main are aloof and cold just like the climate . The women while beautiful appear unhappy and repressed sexually , fitting partners for muslim temporary workers who regularly accost them in the deserted streets . No wonder their men flee to warmer climes .
Lol, best time ever as a young man going to Sweden.
You must have gone to a different Sweden to me..
No doubt ! In general Swedes judge others by the size of their bank account ? There are few of them and they are quite insular as a result [ Us and Them ] That can be misleading due to certain misconceptions . I found Sweden as “incestuous” as Northerners in America allegedly used to find certain Southern towns since the civil war.
So, effectively, Sweden is the global community’s controlled opposition.
They’ve always been that.
Not even their ‘neutrality’ in WW2 was due to their being ‘good’, and their Danish and Norwegian neighbours were rather bitter about it, putting their stance down to nothing more remarkable than self-interest.
Don’t misunderstand me.
Good people exist.
But they don’t go into politics.
Just so you know: there was no ‘good’ side in WWII. Both sides (or all three sides, if you prefer) were controlled by the globalist élites.