119

America Is a Military Dictatorship Disguised as a Democracy

John Whitehead

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?”
Thomas Jefferson

The government is goosestepping all over our freedoms. Case in point: America’s founders did not want a military government ruled by force. Rather, they opted for a republic bound by the rule of law: the U.S. Constitution.

Yet sometime over the course of the past 240-plus years that constitutional republic has been transformed into a military dictatorship disguised as a democracy.

Most Americans seem relatively untroubled by this state of martial law.

Incredibly, when President Biden bragged about how the average citizen doesn’t stand a chance against the government’s massive arsenal of militarized firepower, it barely caused a ripple.

As Biden remarked at a fundraising event in California, “I love these guys who say the Second Amendment is—you know, the tree of liberty is water with the blood of patriots. Well, if [you] want to do that, you want to work against the government, you need an F-16. You need something else than just an AR-15.”

The message being sent to the citizenry is clear: there is no place in our nation today for the kind of revolution our forefathers mounted against a tyrannical government.

For that matter, the government has declared an all-out war on any resistance whatsoever by the citizenry to its mandates, power grabs and abuses.

By this standard, had the Declaration of Independence been written today, it would have rendered its signers extremists or terrorists, resulting in them being placed on a government watch list, targeted for surveillance of their activities and correspondence, and potentially arrested, held indefinitely, stripped of their rights and labeled enemy combatants.

This is no longer the stuff of speculation and warning.

For years, the government has been warning against the dangers of domestic terrorism, erecting surveillance systems to monitor its own citizens, creating classification systems to label any viewpoints that challenge the status quo as extremist, and training law enforcement agencies to equate anyone possessing anti-government views as a domestic terrorist.

2008 Army War College report revealed that “widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.” The 44-page report goes on to warn that potential causes for such civil unrest could include another terrorist attack, “unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters.”

Subsequent reports by the Department of Homeland Security to identify, monitor and label right-wing and left-wing activists and military veterans as extremists (a.k.a. terrorists) have manifested into full-fledged pre-crime surveillance programs. Almost a decade later, after locking down the nation and spending billions to fight terrorism, the DHS concluded that the greater threat is not ISIS but domestic right-wing extremism.

Rounding out this profit-driven campaign to turn American citizens into enemy combatants (and America into a battlefield) is a technology sector that is colluding with the government to create a Big Brother that is all-knowing, all-seeing and inescapable. It’s not just the drones, fusion centers, license plate readers, stingray devices and the NSA that you have to worry about. You’re also being tracked by the black boxes in your cars, your cell phone, smart devices in your home, grocery loyalty cards, social media accounts, credit cards, streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon, and e-book reader accounts.

The events of recent years have all been part of a master plan to shut us up and preemptively shut us down: by making peaceful revolution impossible and violent revolution inevitable.

The powers-that-be want an excuse to lockdown the nation and throw the switch to all-out martial law.

This is how it begins.

As John Lennon warned, “When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system’s game. The establishment will irritate you—pull your beard, flick your face—to make you fight. Because once they’ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you.”

Already, discontent is growing.

According to a USA TODAY/Suffolk University poll, 7 out of 10 Americans believe that American democracy is “imperiled.”

Americans are worried about the state of their country, afraid of an increasingly violent and oppressive federal government, and tired of being treated like suspects and criminals.

What we’ll see more of before long is a growing dissatisfaction with the government and its heavy-handed tactics by people who are tired of being used and abused and are ready to say “enough is enough.”

This is what happens when a parasitical government muzzles the citizenry, fences them in, herds them, brands them, whips them into submission, forces them to ante up the sweat of their brows while giving them little in return, and then provides them with little to no outlet for voicing their discontent.

Our backs are against the proverbial wall.

We’ve been losing our freedoms so incrementally for so long—sold to us in the name of national security and global peace, maintained by way of martial law disguised as law and order, and enforced by a standing army of militarized police and a political elite determined to maintain their powers at all costs—that it’s hard to pinpoint exactly when it all started going downhill, but we’ve been on that fast-moving, downward trajectory for some time now.

When the government views itself as superior to the citizenry, when it no longer operates for the benefit of the people, when the people are no longer able to peacefully reform their government, when government officials cease to act like public servants, when elected officials no longer represent the will of the people, when the government routinely violates the rights of the people and perpetrates more violence against the citizenry than the criminal class, when government spending is unaccountable and unaccounted for, when the judiciary act as courts of order rather than justice, and when the government is no longer bound by the laws of the Constitution, then you no longer have a government “of the people, by the people and for the people.”

Brace yourselves.

There is something being concocted in the dens of power, far beyond the public eye, and it doesn’t bode well for the future of this country.

Anytime you have an entire nation so mesmerized by political theater and public spectacle that they are oblivious to all else, you’d better beware.

Anytime you have a government that operates in the shadows, speaks in a language of force, and rules by fiat, you’d better beware.

And anytime you have a government so far removed from its people as to ensure that they are never seen, heard or heeded by those elected to represent them, you’d better beware.

The architects of the police state have us exactly where they want us: under their stamping boot, gasping for breath, desperate for freedom, grappling for some semblance of a future that does not resemble the totalitarian prison being erected around us.

The government and its cohorts have conspired to ensure that the only real recourse the American people have to express their displeasure with the government is through voting, yet that is no real recourse at all.

Yet as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, what is unfolding before us is not a revolution. This is an anti-revolution.

We are at our most vulnerable right now.

Originally published by the Rutherford Institute
Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]

SUPPORT OFFGUARDIAN

If you enjoy OffG's content, please help us make our monthly fund-raising goal and keep the site alive.

For other ways to donate, including direct-transfer bank details click HERE.

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

119 Comments
newest
oldest most voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
TaxHaven
TaxHaven
Jul 9, 2023 7:52 PM

I believe the late Sheldon Wolin called this sort of bass-ackwards dictatorship “inverted totalitarianism”

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 12:39 AM

Nothing will change until that which convinces millions every year to become mercenaries for the Borg ( military, police, guns for hire) is removed from the picture.

The System is not the politicians OR the cabal behind them. The System is the millions of brainless, nameless, faceless and de-humanised entities who constitute its various lethal enforcement branches.

This is why most anti-government and anti-NWO discourse is utopian. It misses the bigger picture and focuses on targets that are not substantial or within anyone’s reach.

The average sheep believes they need the police and military to protect them from themselves or the lower classes, and requires their existence, and the cycle continues.

Luís
Luís
Jul 8, 2023 11:08 PM

Oh dear, astonishing how most people still cannot discern that a “democracy” and ‘republic’ aren’t what they believe to be… mind boggling. These two terms were taken from Plato’s “Republic”, a dictatorship controlled by a small ruling elite. A ‘republic’ is a nation controlled at the top by judeo-masonry. Adam Weishapt, creator of the illuminati and another puppet in the Rothschild’s payroll, planned to replace all catholic european monarchies with ‘republics’… republics with a … ‘democracy’ – see the trick now? Another historical fact: America was founded by freemasons, which established a… “democratic republic”!!! George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were freemasons… and freemasons created a “Declaration of Independence” and later on a ‘US Constitution’!!! The term “liberty” is the exact same ideal of the judeo-masonic french revolution/enlightenment motto: liberty – equality – fraternity. Liberty then, means liberty from God… and they worship Lucifer, the ‘light bearer’… liberty and… Read more »

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 12:46 AM
Reply to  Luís

They do not “worship Lucifer”- these are christian conspiracy distortions. “Satan” is the same entity as Yahweh, and that is who they follow.

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 8, 2023 7:25 AM

An assertion that something is not democracy should ideally be preceded by a brief description of what democracy is, for this shit-word can have 1000+1 meanings, depending on what this or that motherfucker is trying to spin by invoking it. The current representative incarnation of democracy that is generally peddled as one is inherently dysfunctional because representation can work only insofar as you can throw the motherfucker whose ass you elect into office or smash his face in if he gets out of hand and starts acting against yours and to the benefit of his interests. An entity of the size of the US can never function as a democracy, not even the individual states could. Maybe a small village could. Anything bigger will eventually get perverted, corrupted. Democracy is supposed to be rule by the people, that is people instructing their representatives how things should be run, but it… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 8, 2023 5:50 PM

Democracy is rule by majority. An euphemism for mob rules. Two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. A political situation where the only dissenting voice is the person with a bag over their head being carried by the lynch mob. Assuming that means people isn’t always an accurate assessment of how politics works in today’s modern sphere of social engineering. TPTB want people to beg for Democracy because they know they already control the mob of NPCs. The USA is, and always has been, a REPRESENTATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. The USA never was, or has been, a democracy. This assertion is rooted in the fact that our justice system is fundamentally oriented in the protection of the individual and individual inalienable rights. The USA as a nation has been in existence for ~240 years, and yet somehow people want to blame all of the rest of the world’s problems… Read more »

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 8, 2023 6:12 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

The current incarnation of democracy is a scam. There is a nice description of the dysfunctional nature of what is peddled as democracy in this book, which I wholeheartedly recommend to you – https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Urmie-Ray/dp/2813001139.

Republic is a state where the government is installed by citizens as opposed to a monarchy which is ruled by a fucking king. Or queen. I guess republic and democracy (representative democracy) are kinda synonymous, if the republic is to be functional. But that’s splitting hairs.

I’m not in the US, I don’t know what it’s like on the ground, I don’t know how people actually feel. Whether they’re ready or even willing to revolt, or whether they’re even aware that something is wrong.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 8, 2023 7:40 PM

Inserting the word democracy, and conflating it with other forms of government, is nothing more than 1984 new-speak. TPTB would like nothing more than to have the world beg for Democracy, because they know they control the mob. A republic, as in that word by itself, is a form of government as you suggest. A republic can have democratic processes, however is not a Democracy. Also not all republics have a constitution and not all republics are representative. The important distinction to make is that the USA, is a republic, has a constitution (AKA Contract), and is, at least on paper, representative. What really sets the USA’s form of government, a Representative Constitutional Republic, apart from the myriad of collectivist forms of government, is the memorialization of inalienable individual rights, and a justice system that protects those individual rights and the individual. Again, at least on paper. The majority of… Read more »

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 8, 2023 8:14 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Whatever system of governance the US has has obviously not worked out all too well. Frankly, I don’t give a fuck. As I said, the principal issue is that the US has exhausted itself culturally. Doesn’t matter if it’s a republic, democracy, or shit-o-cracy. It’s collapsing, imploding, drowning in decadence.

If you Americans sort out your predicaments, so much the better, especially if you stop fucking with the rest of the world. Mind your own business.

You’re anachronistically delusional if you think that picking up arms (sic) will accomplish anything.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 8, 2023 10:38 PM

I never said it wasn’t. And I don’t expect you to give a fuck, and if you don’t give a fuck, why comment? All nations are being replaced as TPTB implement their Great Reset and Fourth Industrial Revolution. Don’t flatter yourself by cheering on the destruction of the USA, while thinking that where you live is somehow immune from what is happening. I’m sure many nations thought the same prior to WW2. Regardless where you live, your government is not innocent and also does not mind it’s own fucking business. I agree that all government should stay away from foreign entanglements. Let the primarily disarmed peoples of Europe, Africa, South America, and Asia continue to destroy itself with the never ending stream of dictators and totalitarian existence. You’re historically ignorant if you think tyrants return power back to the people peacefully, and that you can comply your way out of… Read more »

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 9, 2023 8:06 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

A lot of governments don’t mind their fucking business because of US interference. I don’t give a fuck about the place where you live. I hope that people over there live happy, prosperous lives, like everybody else everywhere else.

The truth, unfortunately, is that a certain sort of American people are aggressive motherfuckers who live off the labors of people elsewhere around the globe.

It all kinda stems with what you’re exhibiting – the propensity to deal with issues by shooting somebody up. You, too, idiotically think that the solution to complex problems is grabbing your gun and shooting somebody who is completely inconsequential.

You don’t know shit about dealing with tyrants. Unlike me, you’ve never had to deal with any, and as bad as the stuff might now be, it’s a long ways from tyranny.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 10, 2023 2:09 PM

Name one government that doesn’t mind it’s own business? And this is both from an outside their borders or inside their borders perspective. As in, government’s primary job is the management of infrastructure, and not interfering with the lives of the people.

There are aggressive people in every nation’s government that seek power.

I never said shooting inconsequential people is a solution. That is just your bias speaking because you don’t understand American Culture based in individual Freedom and Liberty. A typical bias from people that are happy to live under oppressive government that doesn’t mind its own business regarding the people.

That you are more tolerant of tyranny, than others, doesn’t mean by default that others are not experiencing tyranny. People that expect to live free have zero tolerance for any tyranny.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 12:48 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Democracy is rule by majority.

That is not the original meaning of the word.

There was no “empire of Greece” as “Greece” is an invention of the British Empire and did not exist prior to the Ottoman Empire’s four-century presence in the area.
Athens was a small city state like the others in that area that shared similar Hellenic language. They were small enough to have a democratic structure but they also had slaves and homosexuality with teenage boys was apparently practiced by the affluent.

The empire you may be thinking of was the Macedonian Empire of Alexander “the Great” and had nothing to do with democracy.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 10, 2023 2:15 PM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

This is what I said,
Democracy is rule by majority. An euphemism for mob rules. Two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. A political situation where the only dissenting voice is the person with a bag over their head being carried by the lynch mob.”

And,

“Who is to blame for the previous 19.5 centuries of world exploitation? Maybe the Empires of Egypt, Persia, Greece, Italy, Russia, Germany, France, England, Spain, etc.? What part of the world essentially invented “Central Banks” and leads the “Central Bank Cartel”?”

I did not assert that Greece invented democracy, even though that is an academic assertion.

You are correct that Greece did not have an empire. They did however have influence over politics and ideology.

In the future I will reference the Macedonian Empire of Alexander the Great, as well.

Pathwhisperer
Pathwhisperer
Jul 7, 2023 8:32 PM
Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 7, 2023 10:00 PM
Reply to  Pathwhisperer

Better still, don’t pay taxes. But how to get everyone to do this all at once.

Cynicon Implant
Cynicon Implant
Jul 7, 2023 6:37 PM

Upfront disclaimer: I’m not advocating for any kind of violence, just doing some math…

I don’t think people like Biden, who threaten the American people with military force, have really thought through how hard it might be to suppress a rebellion.

They are assuming that the rebellion would be centrally organized and thus would be easy to overpower with military might. But it’s very likely that it would be decentralized, with rebels taking over local jurisdictions. There are about 20,000 cities and towns in the U.S. and just over 2 million troops. That’s 100 troops per city/town.

Obviously, the troops would be deployed as local jurisdictions fell to rebels and thus there would be more than 100 deployed in each instance but my point is that it would look like a game of whack-a-mole more than shock and awe.

Afghanistan, anyone?

County Girl
County Girl
Jul 8, 2023 7:11 PM

There is also a NATO army and maybe other armies that are ‘on call’ for situations where people are seen as being against the govt. This army were flown into Canada during the Freedom Convoy. They were also used in London, UK during marches against covid lockdowns. These marches in London were not violent protests, just ordinary people, peacefully walking as a group. The UK govt. usually whines they cannot afford to employ many police, but for events like this, it is amazing how many ‘police’ including these guys in outfits that did not resemble what the police normally wear, were present.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 12:59 AM

Americans are too cowardly and tribalist to do it. It will immediately turn into race and gang warfare. They still live in the Wild West with an Old Testament “us-and-them” ethos.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 7, 2023 6:12 PM

If Marx was a man of the 19th century, then Max Weber was assuredly the man of the 20th. These Germans seem to get everywhere.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 4:11 PM

First and foremost, the USA is, and always has been, a Representative Constitutional Republic. The USA is not, and never has been, a Democracy. The state of affairs we face today does not change this fact. That we are no longer, and haven’t been for a long time, represented constitutionally by government, is not a refutation of our form of government. It is proof and evidence that We the People have failed at vigilance. No one ever promised that the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights would stop tyrants or tyrannical government. I cannot deny that the USA’s current trajectory is leading towards internal conflict. We were explicitly warned by the Founding Fathers that a standing army would eventually be turned against We the People. A warning that we failed to heed. Having to face Goliath, will never be a reason, or excuse, to not risk everything in… Read more »

John
John
Jul 7, 2023 4:45 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You are by yourself. The powers-that-be have been trying to provoke and foster that response you express for some time now. Through intentional incompetence they are trying to build widespread public support across the entire political spectrum that all of our trusted institutions have failed us, and that we need a sweeping, top-to-bottom overhaul of government. The very ones causing the problems are partnered up with those waiting in the wings to provide the “solutions”, solutions that We The People would not ordinarily embrace without the ruse going on here that you have fallen for. Once they get the civil unrest they yearn for, they will use it as an excuse for martial law and a call for a Convention of the States where they can introduce a raft of constitutional amendments, (like they did after the Civil War), or an entirely new constitution altogether, (like they did after the… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 5:12 PM
Reply to  John

I have no doubt that we are deep into a phase of demoralization by TPTB as it relates to the controlled demolition of the USA. Not sure what institutions you trust, or trusted, however my entire life the corruption has been evident to anyone paying attention. The hegelian dialectic has been at work long before any of us were born. Don’t flatter yourself by assuming I have fallen for anything. History has proven many times that tyrants don’t return power back to the people peacefully. Meaning, anyone that thinks there is a political solution, when faced with censorship and violation of other rights, is being naïve. The Constitution and Bill or Rights are documents that express where government power ends, and not where regulation or power begins. Martial Law is a fiction that only the weak and fearful accept and comply with. As I stated, no one promised that the… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 5:18 PM
Reply to  John

I also know for a fact, and without doubt, I am not alone.
It only took 3 percent of colonists to defy and defeat the Crown of England.
Obviously you are not a 3 percenter.

Howard
Howard
Jul 7, 2023 4:06 PM

When the military – the US’s military – is bigger than the next 10 militaries combined, you need nothing further to conclude the presence of a military dictatorship.

And who is it the American people by and large honor above everyone else: soldiers and cops.

Imagine if farmers were the chosen favorites of the American people. We might not have TVs and phones that spy on us.

But we made our choice on day one – just like every other nation that’s ever existed.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 4:12 PM
Reply to  Howard

That change occurred with the industrial revolution and the ACW.
The Southern states didn’t want to choose industrialization and the real reason for the ACW.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jul 7, 2023 8:52 PM
Reply to  Howard

Howard, we were all pretty much ordered to revere “our troops” after Vietnam. And I’m sorry but with the number of homeless vets, vets suffering PTSD, vets committing suicide, you and I both know that reverence is skin deep at best. It’s a show, just like the idea these wars are fought for democracy and freedom. Soldiers aren’t a monolith, many know these are resource wars and nothing more. They can’t say that, of course as many of their fellow soldiers were fed the same crap about honor and freedom that we all were.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 1:04 AM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

American soldiers are no longer drafted and hence deserve zero sympathy. They are hired murderers participating in the destruction of our world for money. They deserve to die for their masters, like they chose to.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:59 PM

The downfall of the USA started soon after the end of the AWI. Case in point, Alexander Hamilton, and his modeling the first bank of the USA after the Bank of England (BoE). Why? Because he was the benefactor of elites that funded his life. The first bank of the USA was established in 1791 with a 20 year charter. Who was the first group invited to invest in the new bank of the USA, by Alexander Hamilton? Rothschild. This subversive action did not go unnoticed by several founding fathers. When the charter for the bank was not renewed in 1811, Rothschild was so angry that they pushed the English Crown to start the war of 1812. Between 1812 and the ACW, many boom and bust cycles occurred. Many perpetrated by European Central Bankers. Under Lincoln, and the lead up to the ACW, Southern States were exercising their constitutional power… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jul 7, 2023 4:09 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Great comment. Thank you for it.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 7, 2023 2:34 PM

Funny thing is that the US police state, the US surveillance state, the Biosecurity State, the Censorship Industrial Complex, all represent government policy. There’s publicly available documents to show that for all intents and purposes the US government sees the American people the enemy. Yet, the MSM rarely reports on any of this and have Americans believing their enemies are Russians, White Supremacists and people who won’t use the ever morphing gender pronouns…

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:35 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Operation Mockingbird, and Obama’s recent repeal of laws preventing government sponsored propaganda, insure that MSM is a feckless POS that has nothing to do with truth or insight.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 1:29 PM

Sorry to be so blunt, but, concerning the title of this article…

Well, duh…

eman
eman
Jul 7, 2023 3:09 PM
Reply to  wardropper

“Originally published by the Rutherford Institute“? The unfulfilled promises in Obama’s “Change” and Trump’s “MAGA” as well as the counter current political prosecution of Trump, the police shootings of selected victims, the truckers strike in Canada, the common thread in the many unexplained mass shootings, the attempts to deprive Americans of their guns in violation of the bill of rights, the failure to prosecute obvious criminals, the unwillingness to investigate and prosecute obvious corruption at every level, the overbearing control of the global corporations, think tanks, and NGOs in elections and politics, the unconstitutional rulings of the courts, the placing of access to healthcare and education behind a pay walls financed by long term debt, the use of mass immigration to self-serve political interest, the use of money by government for special interest and wars in faraway places <=instead of at-home projects, the use of law [environment and intangible property rights]… Read more »

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 4:24 PM
Reply to  eman

Excellent assessment.
Thank you.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 8, 2023 8:52 AM
Reply to  eman

A oligachy control almost every government. It consists of
– major plutocrats, some of whom are “cut-outs”
– a few reps from finance
– a few trustworthy (compromised) government officials/ex-officials including reps from domestic enforcement, spying and the military.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 7, 2023 1:25 PM

At some point
When it’s gone too far
Some so annoyed
Will point their guns at the $tar$

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 7, 2023 12:05 PM

I cannot think of anything more entertaining than watching the train wreck that is the USofAs hurtling towards its well-deserved end, from a distance of course.
PS USAmericans when you are finally destitute and famished you can go knocking on your allies’ doors.Only you won’t find anything there because you already stole the whole of it. And the rest of the world, free of you at last, recalling your hubris and arrogance will laugh at your plight and tell you to take a hike.
Sic sempre don’t you know …

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 1:31 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Americans won’t be coming knocking on our doors.

We’re too far away, and their exceptionalism will never let them admit they need help from anybody.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:38 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The US government is in league with all the other corrupt Western governments.
Why would the people of the USA ask for help from another criminal?

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 3:48 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Quite so.
They are the best criminals, so they don’t need any help.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 5:14 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes, they learned well from all the tyrants of Europe.
Probably a real boost from Operation Paperclip.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jul 8, 2023 5:20 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Shush up now Thomas, best not to bring up just where the American legacy originated. Just leave the rest of the world to their virtue signaling and don’t discuss historical precedent. Remember, we don’t do history anymore, that’s just some boring shit that geeks get off on, no one cares about that.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 9:13 AM
Reply to  wardropper

They are but a vulgar, less hypocritical imitation of the Brit-ish.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:37 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Too bad Europe and the rest of the West is already further down the road of complete and utter tyranny than the USA.

Maybe instead of cheering for the demise of the only Representative Constitutional Republic on the planet, you should pick up your gonads and fight for your own freedom.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 8, 2023 9:39 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Come on, Thom … you know I’m an “entitled punk”. And as usual, you haven’t the foggiest idea of what you’re talking about.
Good luck living in your “shithole” country over the next 5-10 years.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 8, 2023 3:41 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

The entire world is going to be a dystopian shithole, unless people rise up.
Seeing as how We the People of the USA are armed, we have a much better chance of taking power back from the tyrants.
Versus nations like Russia and China that are already beholden as unarmed peasants.
Good luck with that.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 7, 2023 11:40 AM

Looks like our little covid friend is being trotted out for round 2 of the global counter-revolution; this being courtesy of the powers-that-be who reside in WEF and WHO and gorge on the free-meal, gravy-train feasts.

Here we go again – It’s been all so predictable. The ambulances where I live have started to tear up and down the main-road honking their sirens as per usual. Well f*** the lot of them. I will just respond like I did last time. Leave Home, walk for an hour round the park, which is next door, and then go back home.

Given the fact that I am now approaching my 79th birthday I am a little sceptical of those lovely people who wish to poke needles into my arms and I assure me that they are doing this for my own good! Yeah right. Shove it old bean.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jul 7, 2023 10:06 AM

Western civilization is being systematically destroyed…

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 7, 2023 11:20 AM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Yes. People who think the many thousands of major events, wars etc that have gone on around the world are unconnected, are braindead. Even if they are otherwise intelligent. It’s all been pulling towards a singular objective. Global enslavement via one government and currency (mark of the beast). Strap in, it’s about to get fun. I wish people would come to Jesus sooner, but they are going to in droves in the next 10 years anyway.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 7, 2023 11:48 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Don’t you mean Eihei Dogen Zenji.or maybe Hakuin Ekaku Zenji?

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 1:20 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

I fear the thought of Jesus still makes many people angry – as does any kind of spiritual philosophy. To me, the greatest tragedy in this is the fact that young people don’t even get to hear the spiritual content of the Bible, either from parents, or from school. As with the treasures of classical music, they just don’t know anything about it. They are essentially doomed to be illiterate and uninformed. Without at least knowing the parables, analogies, metaphors and general wisdom to be found in ancient scriptures, they have nothing to turn to when times get desperate, as they are now doing. Our younger people have only a huge gap where the spirit used to be, but they don’t even know it. Since they have to turn to something, they turn instead to performance-enhancing drugs, superficial confidence-boosting psychiatric self-help, fashion statements and other comparable statements about which computer… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jul 7, 2023 3:53 PM
Reply to  wardropper

They say truth is the first casualty of war. So, too, is wisdom the first casualty of progress.

The very essence of wisdom is “Not so fast.” But what technological society has time to wait?

It’s full speed ahead. No time for any such irrelevance as wisdom.

And classical music? OMG it takes too long; too much time away from the smartphone.

Humans aren’t losing the accumulated wisdom of the ages. We simply don’t need it in order to destroy ourselves.

Glenn Sullivan
Glenn Sullivan
Jul 7, 2023 4:47 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Schools are now only indoctrination centers. 🙁

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 9:15 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Putting the magic J and the Bible in the same sentence as “spiritual philosophy” is worthy of grand mockery.
Alas, the abrahamic doctrine is too gross to be touched by any blasphemy.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Jul 7, 2023 11:38 AM
Reply to  Paul Watson

“..the idea of the American Republic.. remains the primary target for destruction.. and bringing it under the control of this Wall St-City of London financial octopus..As long as even a faint memory of that exists, there’s always the risk of some uprising.” ~ David Gosselin

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 1:37 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

You’re right.
At least the ‘authorities’ are doing their level best to destroy it.

We must be the salvagers.

NickM
NickM
Jul 7, 2023 8:53 AM

With great respect to Jefferson (one of its best Presidents) the trouble with the U$ stems not from lack of Liberty but from lack of Communism. Communism was culturally genocided in the Macarthy years, and Socialism was elevated into a Welfare State but only for the Rich. The EU$A’s Anglo Zio Capitalist Empire is suffering from its inherent inefficiency in competition with the military and industrial productivity of State Owned enterprises in Russia, Communist China and the Islamic Socialist Republic of Iran. Read: “Socialism’s Ignored Success: Iranian Islamic Socialism” by Ramin Mazaheri In the early 1970s I had the honour of conversations with famous geneticist Prof.Guido Pontecorvo, brother of Bruno the physicist. Both brothers were Communists, and both did significant work to insure Socialist countries against military superiority by the socalled “Free World” (ie, against naked aggression by the U$A and its European satellites). Bruno’s contribution in the 1950s to… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:41 PM
Reply to  NickM

Communism, Socialism, Fascism, are all variations of Collectivism that lead to totalitarianism.

Anyone that thinks any of those forms of government are “good”, is just a coward and afraid of freedom.

Anarchy, that really means “no government”, is the best way to go, if the substantial number of people are moral, of good character and of good ethics. Something that has proven to be mostly a pipe dream.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 7, 2023 6:27 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Why leave out Capitalism? We’ve been living under it since about the 14th century (dates may differ but it’s around when commerce appeared)?

Also, the way in which what you call “Communism, Socialism, Fascism” manifested themselves was due to the historical point in which they appeared, which was when Capitalism (national/international commerce) was the most advanced and imperialistic. It is a mature Capitalism as a historical mouvement, incarnated in the empires and nations surrounding Russia and Germany that forced the isms you mention to manifest the way they did/do by isolating them.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 10:30 PM

Capitalism is a form of economics, not a form of government. Capitalism, especially crony capitalism, could be applied to any of the forms of government. For example, when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1989, it was a form of crony capitalism that placed the government owned industry into the hands of the Russian Mobsters and Oligarchs. A similar event happened in Slovenia when overnight all was privatized while the people slept. If a nation has a free market form of capitalism based on merit and competition, that is the most moral economic system you can have based on our current understanding of business and opportunity, as it relates to creating a middle class. RIght, the fact that Europe, and most of the rest of the world, that has claimed to be various forms of Socialism, Fascism, and Communism, and ended up just being a variation of collectivist totalitarianism, is all… Read more »

NickM
NickM
Jul 8, 2023 9:23 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

“Capitalism is a form of economics, not a form of government.”

Tell that to the Yanks:

“U$ Democracy, the best government that money can buy”.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 8, 2023 3:43 PM
Reply to  NickM

That corrupt crony oligarchs have used their ill gotten booty to buy politicians, isn’t an argument that refutes the fact that capitalism is a form of economics and not a form of government.

Try again, and better at making an argument, if you can.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 9, 2023 1:13 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I took the time to address the claim that “Capitalism is a form of economics, not a form of government,” by proving the deterministic pre-eminence of the economy over politics.   First, maybe we are using the same word (Capitalism) to refer to two different notions. Capitalism, in its large acceptation is not a “form of economics”, it is the economic production form that prevailed as I said since the about 14th century. This form is based on the private ownership of the means of production, as opposed to Feudalism, another form of economic production, which was based on the private ownership of land. Under feudalism, people reproduced themselves through the produce they receive from the landlord in exchange for their labour on the land, after tax deductions in produce (money could have been used exceptionally). If you wanted to picture this form of human life (Feudalism), picture a very… Read more »

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 9, 2023 1:14 PM

[2nd paragraph, third line above should be “emerged” instead of “prevailed”] Thus, Beard goes on making his point through a detailed analysis of the American society of 1787, with its several classes, the appraisal of the properties of many members thereof, and finds out with the data available to him the “economic profiles” of those who approved and disapproved the Constitution; after which he concludes his analysis thus:   “It cannot be said, therefore, that the members of the Convention were ‘disinterested.’ On the contrary, we are forced to accept the profoundly significant conclusion that they knew through their personal experiences in economic affairs the precise results which the new government that they were setting up was designed to attain. As a group of doctrinaires, like the Frankfort assembly of 1848, they would have failed miserably; but as practical men they were able to build the new government upon the… Read more »

NickM
NickM
Jul 10, 2023 9:59 AM

“diverse and numerous interests are encouraged and represented, such as to prevent the formation of a majority of common interest threatening minority or individual interest,”

In other words, Divide and Rule, as in today’s highly fragmented Woke distraction from actual rule by a tiny but mighty hanful of uber wealthy conspirators.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 10, 2023 1:54 PM
Reply to  NickM

Yes. people’s views are shifted from being whole, from being a clear understanding of what ails human existence, to be divided into a myriad of partial views many of them secondary to what really matters, many of them quite frankly unimportant and many of them purposefully engineered but in any event, views that each occupy the whole of the mind is if they each gave the solution to man’s suffering. Then these views acquire a false appearance of importance as they are officially represented and institutionalised; and money is spent to keep the population in this status-quo.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 9, 2023 1:54 PM

Second and last part of reply in pending.

NickM
NickM
Jul 10, 2023 9:50 AM

Emphasis added because this hypothesis is substantiated by a statistically valid classification of voting patterns according to property and income, would justify Marx’s claim of “class warfare”.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 9:22 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You got downvoted by the conservative hive-mind that led us directly to the neo-cons and then convid. Their indoctrinated concept of “anarchy” is that of bolsheviks throwing bombs.

Unfortunately anarchist theory is utopian and generally misses the mark, which is that people have a slave mentality becuase of generational trauma from over 1000 years of metaphysical and physical terrorism by the abrahamic mafia.

Modern people are unable to live in a state of anarchy- they require stern rulers to feel safe as they have been pacified by the magic J and his slave philosophy (which is not much different to Marxism) and cannot fend for themselves.

Anthony Murphy
Anthony Murphy
Jul 7, 2023 8:48 AM

For the USA and Europe, it seems that the era of regime-change wars in which third-world countries were systematically destroyed is over. This outsourcing of massive violence in the name of ‘democracy’ and ‘values’ seemed to serve a useful function of ‘we are doing this to protect ourselves’ to the population. This valve closed with Covid and Ukraine. The West’s most important enemy now is their own populations, who are already passive and humiliated. Meanwhile, the non-West recovers and strengthens – this process will continue.

Rita
Rita
Jul 7, 2023 10:05 AM
Reply to  Anthony Murphy

“The West’s most important enemy now is their own populations, who are already passive and humiliated.”

This.

They keep trying to invent external threats: (NATO funded proxy) terrorists, viruses that jumped out of bowls of batsoup, weather, China baaaad, Russia baaaad, Iran baaaaad, Syria baaaaad, immigrants baaaaad.
NK, Cuba + Venezuela also baaaad but lower down the baaaad list…
…..just waiting for the aliens to land now.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 7, 2023 8:34 AM

“America Is a Military Dictatorship Disguised as a Democracy”

For a US soldier, with the highest kill rate among nations, going to battle disguised as a democracy has always been the emotional equivalent of going in drag.

At least officially.

“Charmingly boyish, impregnable in his ignorance, preaching democracy in Southeast Asia and spewing bombs.”

-~ H. Bruce Franklin in his review of 2001’s “The Quiet American” film by Aussie director Philip Noyce, “By the Bombs’ Early Light”

Sam
Sam
Jul 7, 2023 8:07 AM

Uh… it’s not hard or difficult at all to “pinpoint exactly when it all started going downhill.” It all began in late 1910 on Jekyll Island, Georgia.

Simon D
Simon D
Jul 7, 2023 11:17 AM
Reply to  Sam

1694 is more like it, with the founding of the Bank of England.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 7, 2023 11:33 AM
Reply to  Sam

You are correct, it was the death of Mark Twain that enabled the illegal formation of the Federal Reserve, since then crisis’s have been fabricated to enable the gvt to take financial action against their citizens.

We needed a financial emancipation, what we got was a Grade A disaster.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 1:47 PM

A good assessment, although I wouldn’t hold Mark Twain accountable merely for dying…
It was those who lived on that got the FedRes on its jack-booted feet.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 8, 2023 2:07 AM
Reply to  wardropper

He was the only mechanism convincing congress to continue to oversee the treasury, once he was gone the congress rolled over on its belly and let the Fed Res take the financial controls, its been bad news ever since.

Howard
Howard
Jul 7, 2023 4:01 PM

Mark Twain was born under Haley’s Comet. He said he’d die when it returned – and he did.

So the Federal Reserve was also kind of born under Haley’s Comet. But it sure didn’t die when the Comet returned in 1986.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 8, 2023 2:12 AM
Reply to  Howard

The Feds are collective where as Twain was an individual.

Collectivism takes a long time to die, it eventually does, but an individual still has to pick up the pieces of life or evolution dies, and then the greed is simply reborn to grow again.

And the cycle continues on but has it learned anything?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 8, 2023 6:29 PM

Collectives haven’t learned anything, but individuals have, usually as a wisdom that is secret, simply because it has to be lived before it can be really (usefully) understood.

And then the more spiritually potent ones among us, individuals, pass on wisdom by way of signs (Art “et al.”) to the next collectives, who collect the signs and display them, usually by degrees of great misunderstanding.

Voila our current plight!

Among others added in (History).

MattC
MattC
Jul 7, 2023 7:45 AM

The reason that Countries turn into military dictatorships has a lot to do with how the Countries acquire their “leaders”. In the US dementia Joe didn’t trouble himself with campaigning yet miraculously “won” a record number of votes. In the U.K. the so called “conservative” party was torn apart with internal strife regarding the EU. – which an earlier “conservative” government had signed up for without bothering to mention it in their manifesto – yet somehow managed to get an 80 seat majority under the slogan of “Get Brexit done”. That as usual was hopelessly misleading as it actually meant get the Brexiters undone. Despite that resounding majority the Fat Dictator contrived to make massive concessions – Northern Ireland, fisheries, huge payments and not one EU law was removed from the statute book. Then he declared an” Emergency” aka the Pandemic which resulted in the complete sidelining of Parliament and… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 7, 2023 7:26 AM

Since the Military was behind Warp Speed–

Was it 30% “placebo”?
New Evidence including from Denmark & Germany w video links. Don’t miss it.

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/was-it-30-placebo

NickM
NickM
Jul 7, 2023 5:31 AM

“America Is a Military Dictatorship Disguised as a Democracy”
America is not wholly bad; parts of it are excellent (eg Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil). Even North America has many good places and good people (eg, OffG readers and writers in Canada & U$A). But the U$A is an Anglo Zio Fascist Corporation masquerading as a Nation.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:43 PM
Reply to  NickM

All of Europe, under the guise of the EU, including Russia, is, and has been, a dictatorship.
The very reason people fled Europe for the Americas.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Jul 7, 2023 4:36 AM

Revolutions

I am not personally aware of revolutions that were initiated by little guys and that diluted the concentration of power. The English, American, French, Bolshevik and Chinese revolutions were all driven by the banksters and benefited them enormously. America was brought into existence by the extermination of the relatively free natives and their replacement with productive races that cared little for freedom.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 7, 2023 3:44 PM

What land, or nation, in the entire world, wasn’t sacked and taken at some point in time?
Even the American Indians had their wars and “Nations”. They had slaves, raped, pillaged and subjugated other tribes.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 9:31 AM

The Russian and Spanish revolutions at least were genuine revolts that were then co-opted and betrayed by the Bolshevik mafia and their “left” lackeys.
Read Orwell’s “Homage to Catalunya”.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Jul 7, 2023 4:21 AM

Long Ago The omnipotent central banker controlled tyranny has been 3 millennia in preparation. The bible has been described as the original communist manifesto. It’s chilling little stories give the game away. The story of the conquest of Jericho. The tale of the poor bugger stoned to death for collecting sticks on the Sabbath. The creation of the two subsidiary monotheisms spread the spirit and totalitarian message of the bible across the world. Countless religious traditions bit the dust as Christianity spread and destroyed the traditions it replaced. We talk with horror of book burning. However after the third century the works of the critics of Christianity were routinely banned and their books physically burned. A handful of us are dimly aware of the existence of anti Christian writers like Celsus and Porphyry. This is because Church authorities created denunciations of these writers. These denunciations are all we have. The… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 7, 2023 8:23 AM

Extensive but inconvenient earlier knowledge got wiped out in the destruction of libraries at Alexandria, Baghdad and Peking.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 7, 2023 11:56 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Again, not to worry, the important stuff is all in the Vatican Secret Archives, not that any of will ever get to see a single text therein.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 7, 2023 10:22 AM

I’m afraid I can’t contradict the bit about Marxism supporting the convid dystopia to the hilt. Indeed it was the Left who stridently asserted that the governments “weren’t going far enough”. Thus signalling the deformation of Marxism which started with its easy succumbing to conspiracy phobia.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 7, 2023 12:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Agreed. Most of those ignoramuses who disparage something they call ‘Marxism’ are basically talking about Stalinism. Which has little relation to the real thing. Come on let’s try the 3 Volumes of Capital voluminous already, which comes approx to 9000 words. Then there is the Grundrisse – A mere 900 words. Then there was Friedrich Engels The Condition of the Working Class in England 1844. Not that these erstwhile ‘Marxists’ know or care about these matters Communist Manifesto 1848 ring a bell? Anti-Duhring ring a bell? Engels 1894? Marx-Engels writing on colonial affairs inter alia On Colonialism – writings on Ireland, India, China and so forth. Most interestingly was Marx’s long correspondence – with Abraham Lincoln – I bet you didn’t know that! Correspondence with Marx and the New-York Dailly Tribune number 6405 – October 14, 1861. That is just one of his letters. Then there were all the political… Read more »

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jul 7, 2023 2:33 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The ‘Left’ that you are referencing which supported Operation Covid are ignorant on Marxism and even more ignorant about Marxism and Medicine. These are mainly liberals who have always supported third way capitalism, as they are highly invested in it, only dressing up their reactionary thinking when necessary or convenient with a faux socialist veneer. Any Marxist worth their salt understood the Covid Con in the context of capitalism in steep decline. Actual Marxism situates the medical system within the political power and economic structures of capitalist society and understands that the medical system reflects society’s class structure through control over health institutions. This is manifested in the growth of financialized medical centers and financial control by large corporations of the medical-industrial complex. Health policy reflects large financial interest groups political and economic goals. The State’s involvement in health care is designed to protect the capitalist economic system and the… Read more »

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 7, 2023 5:20 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Agreed. Anyone who criticizes the current economic system or just disagrees on some aspects of it is mindlessly put in the general bag of “Marxists”.

More importantly, those blamed of falling for the medical theatre and labelled Marxists, really should be referenced to as intellectuals. It is as intellectuals, blind believers in “Science” that they have fallen; the proof of it is simple: if we take a representative sample large enough of these intellectuals, you’ll find that it contains both those who espouse Marx’s philosophy and those who don’t.

And nothing says that Marxists should be immune to Capital’s tricky attempts to save its skin, being human beings like everybody else after all. So why the moral blame?

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 7, 2023 9:23 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Oh I’m in total agreement. But it’s astonishing how even those seemingly knowledgeable in Marx fall for that conspiracy phobia. A certain former Left acquaintance was singing the praises of the Just Stop Oil protesters and became tetchy when someone suggested that these high-profile “dissident” groups were phony asking “Where is the evidence?” as if the money trail and the positive profile in the media were not screamingly obvious clues.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 7, 2023 12:00 PM

Interesting reply. The banksters certainly have been at the root of the global system; it had already been established in the UK and then in the US as the the 1913 Act i.e., the Federal Reserve Board in the capitalist world.

But here is something interesting.Outstanding economists in the USSR such as Nikolai Kondratiev (noted for his ‘wave theory’) and Isaac Ilyich Rubin – A History of Economic Thought) who was published 1929. Were both ‘liquidated’ – Trotsky style – in late 1929 and then Kondratiev in 1938. Some sort of thoughtcrime apparently. Any connection here?

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 9, 2023 9:36 AM

Agreed on the analysis but not on the “resistance is useless”. Anything that comes out of their mouth is a lie, including this statement, and especially this statement, because it suits them just fine.

Where are the real men??

STJOHNOFGRAFTON
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
Jul 7, 2023 3:06 AM

The absurd and puzzling health measures taken by world leaders and the medical establishment in the debacle of the covid scamdemic can be seen in the way the US handled things. The reality was and now continues: America is modelling democracy via a military dictatorship to the rest of the world. The following article gives some insight: Pandemic Leaders: Military-Intelligence-Biodefense Puppets
https://www.technocracy.news/pandemic-leaders-military-intelligence-biodefense-puppets/

les online
les online
Jul 7, 2023 3:21 AM

The way the authorities handled the ‘covid’ plandemic was not a ‘debacle’…Everything went according to plan (with a few local hiccups)…To believe the plandemic was mishandled is to lend oneself to hoping the authorities had learned from their mistakes and will handle the next plandemic better…

There Was No Pandemic…

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Jul 7, 2023 12:15 PM

“In the face of this situation we would be better off to dispense now with a number of the concepts which have underlined our thinking with regard to the Far East. We should dispense with the aspiration to ‘be liked’ or to be regarded as the repository of a high-minded international altruism. We should stop putting ourselves in the position of being our brothers’ keeper and refrain from offering moral and ideological advice. We should cease to talk about vague — and for the Far East — unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are hampered by idealistic slogans, the better.”

― George F. Kennan, American Diplomacy, 1951

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 7, 2023 12:15 AM

Just to make an unpopular comment: Who voted these liberal idiots into office?
Why didnt the Republican voters do anything other than whining the lgbt team stole their election.
Who is filling out the ranks within the military, police, fbi, homeland security? Who is serving in the public offices for these tyrants?
Who is messing things up in the street gangs, the homeless tents, having a business in the drug industry?
Yes I know its boring to blame the sheeple for their blind cooperation.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 12:48 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Who still thinks voting has anything to do with it?

C’mon guys. We’ve all heard this one:

“It’s not the votes that count; it’s who counts the votes”…

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 7, 2023 1:26 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Also — “No matter who you vote for the government always gets in”.

However, given the amount of effort that goes into managing elections to get the ‘right’ result they obvious have some purpose even if its just to provide a fig leaf of democracy. The truth is that failing to vote is one of the reasons why the administrative state has such free rein. There was a point in the 1970s when we had this lot on the ropes — or so it seemed — but it came storming back with “Morning in America” and it learned from its mistakes never to allow that level of scrutiny and information freedom again.

So I guess if you don’t vote then you don’t get to complain?

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 7, 2023 1:43 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

You can complain, it just wont do any good.

Presidential hopefuls make promises of all shapes and sizes, but once elected they are debriefed by the military and most of those promises go by the wayside.

Our citizens are harassed, targeted, and pranked by the private side of the military, for military purposes, mostly to control the population in the name of “forming a more perfect union”.

But just whos union is it? Not yours and probably not mine either.

les online
les online
Jul 7, 2023 3:24 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

“No matter who you vote for politicians always get in” ?

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 7, 2023 3:32 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Actually, if you vote, you are responsible for the results. In other words, you’re part of the problem. By not voting for those results, we have the most right to complain. 170 million people voted for Joe Biden or Donald Trump in the last US presidential election. Imagine that. They are a big part of the problem.

NickM
NickM
Jul 7, 2023 5:55 AM

Yes, we the people are a big part of the problem. Nothing would be easier than to give the us people a basic income and leisure to zoom in debates by Parliament and vote directly on every measure, with our smart phones. But remember, it was we the people who voted for Socrates to be poisoned instead of rewarded for educating the youth of Athens; and it was we the people who shouted for the Governor of Palestine to crucify the Messiah instead of Barabbas.

Sunface Jack
Sunface Jack
Jul 7, 2023 5:57 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

“So I guess if you don’t vote then you don’t get to complain?”
Just maybe because you pay tax you have a right to complain. If you continue to allow your vote to be digitally corrupted, then you deserve what you did.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 7, 2023 1:33 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Fig leaves don’t work any more.

We all know.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 7, 2023 3:30 AM
Reply to  wardropper

That would imply, at least to me, that votes would matter if the counting was on the up and up, i.e., like what Trump and his MAGA cult allege was the problem in the last US presidential election. Actually, the problem is who or what we are allowed to vote for, i.e., in that case, Biden or Trump. Which leads to the ultimate problem that our political systems are completely bought and paid for and rigged up, down and sideways. It doesn’t matter how the votes are counted, we get the same shit anyway.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Jul 7, 2023 4:49 AM

I’m terribly sorry to announce but a huge number of people love either Trump or Biden. Personally i think they are both deficient. Our fellow citizens leave a lot to be desired. At least we have plenty of obvious work right where we live. Maybe one day people won’t be so easily conned by slick talking salesmen…. Until then we have what is probably accurately described as a representative democracy… wherin the politicians truly do represent the average voter in terms of you get what you deserve.

Sunface Jack
Sunface Jack
Jul 7, 2023 6:19 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

All parties are funded by the same oligarchs.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 7, 2023 6:57 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

When Trump won in 2016 I was disappointed but not because I was a fan of HRC. However, I thought that he’d end up like our two term governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican but a pragmatic one. What we got was an orgy of corruption and dysfunction. It was bad enough installing friends and family in the WH but Trump abandoned reason to interest groups, handing the judiciary (not just SCOTUS) to the Federalist Society for instance. The final blow — which fortunately didn’t come about, the clock ran out — was to politicize the Federal Civil Service. Those of us who know about the history of fascist regimes know that the levers of power are a compliant judiciary and a tightly controlled civil service — once these are in place legislatures are irrelevant because government truly becomes the exercise of power. Under the circumstances Biden was “the least worst… Read more »

Simon D
Simon D
Jul 7, 2023 11:22 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Biden is a PINO – President in Name Only. When the lighting is right you can see the strings glistening.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Jul 8, 2023 1:15 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

I don’t know why your response to me got 12 downvotes…. Much of it sounds correct and the rest sounds plausible.

NickM
NickM
Jul 8, 2023 9:46 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

I upvote most of Martin Usher’s posts but was surprised by his opinion that Biden was “the least worst option”. Biden (with Nuland) were the very worst options, both as VP and as POTU$A. VP Biden and his son began by ripping juicy financial chunks out of Ukraine under the 2014 coup by POTU$A Obomba. Now POTU$A Biden is engaged in a prolonged crucification of Ukraine to prove that he (with Nuland) was the very worst option.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 7, 2023 6:49 AM

I have worked many elections so I’m used to the systems and rules devised to keep them fair. I am confident that the mechanism of issuing ballots and counting votes works properly and is very difficult to corrupt. The noisemakers we saw on TV after 2020 quite obviously had never worked elections because their allegations were not only impractical but if attempted would stick out like a sore thumb. The time to manage elections is before the vote. Modern consultancies boast a better than 80% success rate in getting the results that were paid for. This is without the wholesale voter suppression and gerrymandering that is prevalent in some parts of the country. Turning a state’s Secretary of State office into a partisan office as well as installing partisans to oversee elections at a county level is a bit blatant and actually unnecessary, its the sort of thing that invites… Read more »

NickM
NickM
Jul 7, 2023 5:43 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Even before the votes were counted, even before the election was held, the election was won by some people in backrooms selecting the candidates and financing their campaigns.