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AUDIO: Iain Davis on Perspective with Jesse Zurawell – July 5th 2023

Iain Davis joins host Jesse Zurawell to discuss the recent Wagner mutiny in Ukraine, “interoperability” and its implications for global digital ID and currency, plans for future of G7, the nature of conflict in “multipolar” world and more.

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Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 15, 2023 7:25 AM

This is why they needed Trump to play the role of President – nobody else could have done it. And as I’ve said previously:

The really smart move by Pence & Co was to bypass the fifth-columnist fake-MAGA by hijacking the Democrats with their pumped-up Putin hatred. That was genius!

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/25/tucker-carlson-fox-news-russia-putin
Tucker Carlson leads rightwing charge to blame everyone but Putin
Feb 26, 2022
As Russian troops encircled Ukraine, politicians and media pundits in the US were largely united in their condemnation of Vladimir Putin’s imminent attack. Tucker Carlson, however, took a different approach. Hours before Putin ordered his forces into Ukraine, Fox News’ biggest star was still praising the Russian president.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/07/14/mike-pence-booed-in-testy-exchange-with-tucker-carlson-over-ex-vps-support-for-ukraine
Mike Pence Booed In Testy Exchange With Tucker Carlson Over Ex-Vice President’s Support For Ukraine
Jul 14, 2023
Former Vice President Mike Pence clashed with Tucker Carlson Friday when he defended his ongoing support for the U.S.’ involvement in the Russia-Ukraine war, eliciting boos from the crowd.

Tucker Carlson & Mike Pence Full Interview – Trump, Ukraine, and the State of America
BlazeTV
Jul 14, 2023
Former Vice President and 2024 presidential candidate Mike Pence joins Tucker Carlson for an in-depth interview during Blaze Media’s ‘The Summit’. Pence offers a look into working with Trump, January 6th, his stance on the Russia/Ukraine War, and how it all affects America today.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 14, 2023 11:42 PM

My favoured hypothesis for all this “WTF is going on in Russia?” is that it’s a Kissinger salvage operation. That is, Kissinger has concluded that the Ukraine component of Belt and Road has been blocked by Pax Americana – so they (the Kissinger group) needed to come up with a strategy to unwind the “SMO”. By having a power struggle within Russia it’s possible to depose Putin – and thereby withdraw from Ukraine without being seen to suffer a comprehensive, military defeat. Russia and China can then go back to being a threat to Pax Americana – therefore justifying the existence of Nato and the MIC.

https://archive.fo/0o3iI
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-great-strategist-henry-kissinger-turns-100-china-ukraine-realpolitik-81b6f3bb
May 26, 2023
Henry Kissinger Surveys the World as He Turns 100
The great strategist sees a globe riven by U.S.-China competition and threatened by fearsome new weapons and explains why he now thinks Ukraine should be in NATO.

Mr. Kissinger leaves no doubt that he believes in a Pax Americana and in the need “to defend the areas of the world essential for American and democratic survival.”

https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/putin-keeps-his-word-wagner-escorted
Putin Keeps His Word, Wagner Escorted to Belarus, General Popov Sacked
Rolo Slavskiy
13 JUL 2023
Moving right along to the sacking of General Popov and the attempt on his life.

I hesitate to definitively state that this was one of Wagner’s conspirators, but his firing does seem to fit with what we would have expected to occur following the mutiny. It was only a matter of time before Shoigu found the allies of Surovikin or Prigozhin to fire from within the MoD one way or the other. Surovikin, who is officially “on vacation for his health” according to the government, has actually been getting interrogated for weeks now at a prison facility.

I expected more arrests to follow after Surovkin, but, so far, the biggest news is that General Popov has been sacked.

Let me just tell you right now: no one was complaining about Popov or demanding that he be sacked. He does not have a reputation of being a particularly nasty, notorious or corrupt general. Basically, Popov wasn’t on any patriot’s shitlist before this, with Strelkov demanding his head, although i wouldn’t be surprised to hear the media scramble to find something on him to explain his firing and portray it as a clean-up by the crusader against corruption, Shoigu himself. Or Gerasimov.

Ukraine war: Russia relieves Major General after he accused Moscow’s defence ministry of betrayal
Sky News
Jul 14, 2023
Major General Ivan Popov, who commanded the 58th Combined Arms Army fighting in Ukraine’s southern Zaporizhzhia region, was dismissed by the Kremlin after speaking out about the problems faced by his troops on the frontline.
Defence and Security Analyst Professor Michael Clarke explains the reasons behind the dismissal.

eliger
eliger
Jul 14, 2023 8:13 PM

Your book is brilliant and it was given for free.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 14, 2023 11:20 AM

It’s a mistake banning RT from “The West”!

I think Nato’s days are numbered. It’s going to suffer a strategic, catastrophic defeat in Ukraine. It’s the graveyard of Nato.

– Peter Lavelle (13:45)

https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Cross-Talk-1407-yt:e
RT: CrossTalk
NATO’s epic fail
July 14, 2023
NATO failed Ukraine yet again. Another promise not kept. In fact, the military alliance has no intention of bringing Kiev into NATO. This has always been the plot. Ukraine is an afterthought. Inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia has always been the plan.
CrossTalking with Jan Oberg, Misty Winston, and Mike Jones.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 11, 2023 11:40 PM

Another question for the panel.

Do you think there’s any validity to the theory suggested below by Rolo Slavskiy that Putin might be a Nato agent?

https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/disastrous-putins-presser-with-state
June 14, 2023

Rumors that Putin has been kept in the dark have been circulating for awhile and I lend them a lot of credence. Short of Putin being a NATO agent himself, recruited when he was a KGB colonel by Kissinger himself, tasked with destroying Russia, there isn’t really an explanation for why he would deliberately launch a disastrous SMO and by doing so undermine his legacy and everything that he and his friends have built. My theory is that he was given very bad info by his FSB and his oligarch friends who wanted to take over Ukraine and rule it themselves, like Medvedchuk.

BTW: I haven’t read the rest of Slavskiy’s article since the text and background colour-combo hurts my eyes.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 12, 2023 1:02 AM

Its far more likely that Ernest Borgnine is going to run the Russian military for 100 years than Putin being a western agent of any kind.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 12, 2023 7:01 AM

It’s the same idea that Prigozhin and others have fallen for; that Putin is getting deliberate bad advice and misinfo from his deputies.

Whether that’s via Good-Putin vs Bad-deputies, or Bad-Putin vs Good-deputies, or Bad-Putin vs Bad-Deputies…

Whichever it is, the goal is to sow discontent and in-fighting between president and deputies. One of the key objectives of Western propaganda in its regime change aspirations

I think Russians are wise to such efforts

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 12, 2023 10:35 AM

I do skim through Tovarish Roloslavskiy’s rants, some of his observations are interesting, even though it’s hard to chew through his incessant narcissistic remarks of him having the most discerning acumen and being the most savant pundit. He’s a low-level, rather myopic babbler about the immediate goings-on, without much ability to see beyond the tip of his nose. However, most people featured all over the place fall into that category.

The suggestion of Putin being a NATO agent kinda begs the question why Putin would first be rebuilding Russia only to have her destroyed. One would think that it would have been easier to follow in drunkard Yeltsin’s footsteps, and Russia would have been in the West’s pocket by now.

Here are a couple of articles about Russia and the global arrangement I’ve found interesting recently. Especially the 7-jours-sur-terre video provides food for thought.

Peter Zeihan | Why the World Should Care About Ukraine
http://www.jordanharbinger.com/peter-zeihan-why-the-world-should-care-about-ukraine/

La naissance d’un nouvel ordre mondial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7A_GCSfZQ

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 15, 2023 8:44 PM

For the bright future of the children.

At least Russia are thinking about children’s future in the context of the traditional values that they stands for. For example, by promoting video games and organizing such events as that on June 5 this year, when the first All-Russian competition-Olympiad “Smart City talents” was held. There, among other things, children had the opportunity to participate in traditional categories, such as: new security, new medicine, new living environment, artificial intelligence, nanotechnology and nanoengineering, neurotechnology and cognitive sciences, creation of virtual worlds.

Official partners were some of the biggest players in the departmental project of the Ministry of Construction of the Russian Federation on digitalization of urban economy, “Smart City”, which is implemented within the framework of the national project “Housing and Urban Environment” and the national program “Digital Economy of the Russian Federation”. This national project program, prepared by the Ministry of Communications on behalf of Russian President Vladimir Putin, assumes the creation of 50 “smart cities” in Russia by 2025.

In 2017, the president stated that “the formation of the digital economy is becoming a matter of national security” and is “a new basis for the development of the public administration system, economy, business, social sphere and the whole society”. Also, in the “Russia – Central Asia Summit” on October 14, 2022 in Astana, the president also said:
“[…]Another important issue is the improvement of cooperation in the field of epidemiological and sanitary safety. The pandemic has clearly confirmed the need to develop at the regional level a comprehensive system of measures[…]”, and “We propose to start implementing projects within the framework of the Commonwealth in the field of digitalization of the urban environment (“smart city”) and public administration (“electronic government”), ensuring network security, digital education.”

Also, just recently, at the end of June, “The best technology projects at the forum “Strong ideas for a New time” were presented to Vladimir Putin”, among them the world’s first National Cyberphysical platform “Den” aimed at solving the” new big challenge” – “to unite the physical and digital space”.
“Dmitry Peskov, Special Representative of the President of Russia for digital Development, stressed that the “Den” is “an attempt for the first time in the world to combine the physical and virtual world in the individual logic of a child’s development.”

“To enumerate only a few,” as say (really only a few). And now with the already legalized digital ruble… the future is increasingly anti-globalist, anti-WEF, etc.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 12, 2023 7:29 PM

Wenn das der Führer wüsste, but Hitler knew everything. Putin too.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 11, 2023 10:12 PM

The panel (lethargic voices aside) would seem to be warming to the idea of a multi-polar world. Applauding the rise of the G20 over the G7. The more voices at the table, the merrier. Surely better than one guy yacking on uninterrupted.

After all, wasn’t Eurasia always at war with Oceania and there never WAS any peace between the two? Or was it the other way around, I do forget these days.

Either way, Prigozhin met with Putin for discussions 5 days after the ‘coup’ for post-Coup analysis.

“How was that for you. And what shall we do next?”. Just sayin’

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 11, 2023 7:40 PM

Vanity Fair:

“We Have Built a Giant Treadmill That We Can’t Get Off”: Sci-Fi Prophet Ted Chiang on How to Best Think About AI

Amid an explosion of panic about artificial intelligence, ChatGPT, and runaway algos, the celebrated writer has entered the chat. FYI: A potential Terminator situation is the least of his concerns.

Did you feel “an explosion of panic” about these things? No, neither did I. And note the sly predictive programming bit: “A potential Terminator situation is the least of his concerns.” i.e. a movie intended to scare is now being brought in as “the least”! Ooh scary scary!

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 11, 2023 6:52 PM

Crisis Update: Governments Are Criminalizing Dissent
Conspiracy theorists are now branded as anti-Semites

Violet
Violet
Jul 11, 2023 8:18 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

You couldn’t make this shit up could you 💤💤💤

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 12, 2023 3:43 AM
Reply to  Violet

Fraid so violet. the camouflageal parallel public transportation cars were reality transparent to even the basic reversal principle ethic. Honesty.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 12, 2023 3:28 AM
Reply to  moneycircus

Its because ground based thoughts are your own, on the net they may not be because they have no existence.

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 12, 2023 12:36 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

As predicted and predictable as can be. The Revelations proceed at a rapid pace as the no -so-gentle-men protest WAY too much.

The desperately irredeemable fake god-men lording it over the desperate wannabes!

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 12, 2023 12:39 PM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

Also, note that there is good evidence for the existence of the “conspiracy theory” term long before the CIA used it, so that particular meme seems likely wrong.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 12, 2023 6:59 PM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

Post links to the evidence, Ras, if you’d like to be taken seriously here.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 12, 2023 7:40 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

I believe in my Government because they have an university degree and know what they are doing, and you have not.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Jul 11, 2023 6:51 PM

This item was discussed during the show.
With the reconfiguration comes a shift in global power dynamics, with more power allotted to the BRICS powers. The Council on Foreign Relations [Reminder: that’s the real US government, behind the curtains], in an article from late June, raised the point that the G7 is becoming outdated, with the G20 becoming a “better” option (it includes all five BRICS powers). See   
What Does the G7 Do? The Group of Seven (G7) serves as a forum to coordinate global policy, but experts are increasingly questioning the group’s relevance. CFR dot org editors, 6/28/23.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-does-g7-do

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 12, 2023 11:53 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl
moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 11, 2023 6:47 PM

There is a face for radio and a voice for TV.

Anyhoo https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/09/vagina-named-bonus-hole-cervical-cancer-charity-transgender/

“Bonus hole” and “front hole” are deemed acceptable alternatives to vagina, a word which could “cause someone to feel hurt or distressed”

Anyone who has held the hand of a woman while she dilates and gives birth has no words for the trans.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 11, 2023 7:36 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Actually I think that anyone who has held the hand of a woman while she dilates and gives birth has plenty of words for the trans. But it might cause the trans to feel hurt and distressed.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 11, 2023 9:51 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

I also think it’s significant that “bonus” sounds like “anus”. I mean “bonus” doesn’t even make any sense other than through that insulting connotation. Which would hurt and distress women. But no-one asks if THEY feel hurt or distessed.

At which point we should ask WHO it is who could be “caused” to feel hurt or distressed. Not the women. Only severely disturbed men.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 12, 2023 4:09 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Unfortunately in times of homeland stress women can be cruel more often than violently brutal towards male. A Working Man need not be present at birth, instead leaving it to the midwife doctoring.
The boy teenager young man the Man is much more likely to dismiss other Men whom Politically back down over when it comes to the Working Class sic.
Mate…Mister…Gent…Sir…Work is allways my Mother enough acting out as a midwifery and what do you call out as a Job? At the Labour Exchange or at the Job Centre?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 12, 2023 7:41 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

What an ugly name. Pussy is not that bad.

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Jul 11, 2023 5:58 PM

OT:
In other news, they can invent a vaccine that works for everyone for a new virus in a couple of weeks,
BUT,
they don’t know why some people get bitten by mosquitoes more than others.

Cognitive dissonance anyone?

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 11, 2023 7:42 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

Lotta strange things occur in nature.

I have a number of feral cats, mostly pure black, but one silver one too, the mosquitoes were bad a while back, hovering thickly around the black cats, but then silverado popped out from behind them and didnt have a bug around him, did the mosquitoes not see him, or smell him like me and the black cats?

We will probably never know and in many cases such as this, should not even pursue it to prevent from scrambling our brains in the name of some ones else’s idea of perfection.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 11, 2023 10:18 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

Usually a sign of excessively prominent veins. Mosquitoes not getting the same level of hemoglobin from leaf veins as they did in yesteryear

But prominent veins are also indicative of life.

Therein lying the paradox. The more you are alive, the more you attract the (female) mosquito

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 11, 2023 10:48 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

Taking B-complex vitamins in the 50mg range helps. Studies to contradict this use very low dose supplements – probably to prove there is no link.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 12, 2023 10:21 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Advice like that (50 mg) can be dangerous. The various B vitamins varying max. doses. Some are a few micrograms.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 11:08 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

Mosquitoes are attracted by the smell of the dirt you have between your toes. You usually get many bites around your feet. Also arm gas is attractive.

So a complete clean body with soap. Latins take 3 showers a day. The only repellent that works is DEET.

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 15, 2023 9:29 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Something blocked access to the “Fund for digital initiatives” page. Nothing, there are similar phenomena on other Russian websites. The statements stand.
https://eabr.org/en/search/?q=COVID-19-Free+Travel+mobile+app

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 15, 2023 8:52 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

The mosquito bite should be certified as such only by providing a valid certificate confirming the bite. This is done through the relevant applications. For example, in Eurasia, such a bite is established through the Eurasian application. Here, look.

Little for Eurasian Development Bank (EDB), Fund of Digital Initiatives, Established in 30 June 2020. Fund Supervisor – Tigran Sargsyan, Vice Chairman of the EDB Management Board.

“COVID-19-Free Travel is a flagship project of the EDB Fund for Digital Initiatives. The app has been designed to allow people to move freely and safely between countries during the novel coronavirus pandemic.

Development:

At a meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Council on 10 December 2021, the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, praised the effectiveness of the COVID-19-Free Travel app and said its functionality and geographical coverage should be extended further.

To this end, the EDB Fund for Digital Initiatives is continuing to develop the app and plans to make it possible to receive and display proof of recovery from COVID-19.”

~

Almaty, 15 May 2023. Digital infrastructure took centre stage at the investors forum held on 15–17 May 2023 in Almaty, alongside the 46th Annual Meetings of the Association of Development Financing Institutions in Asia and the Pacific (ADFIAP).

“We are pleased that the COVID-19-Free Travel mobile app, the flagship project of our Fund, was honoured with the Sustainable Awards in Technology Development by ADFIAP last year. Thank you for this recognition,” said Tigran Sargsyan.

The COVID-19-Free Travel app helped to facilitate safe international travel during the pandemic, surpassing 5 million uses for PCR test result verification.

Furthermore, the Fund launched the Work in the EAEU app to streamline access to public and commercial services for EAEU citizens. Presently, the app offers over 30 services in Russia and Armenia, with ongoing negotiations to expand its reach to other countries.

~

A meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council was held in the Grand Kremlin Palace.

May 25 , 2023

Vladimir Putin:

[…]

Ensuring the digital sovereignty of the Eurasec is also on the agenda. Let me remind you that Russia initiated the process of establishing the partnership of the “five” in the IT sphere back in 2017. It is important that the member states of the Union form a unified digital ecosystem, which would imply the integration of national systems of electronic public services and electronic governments of each of the participants of the “five”. I can assure you that Russia has advanced far enough here and has made very good groundwork.

Sadyr Nurgozhoyevich Zhaparov, President of Kyrgyzstan

[…]

The most important direction towards creating favorable conditions within the framework of ensuring the four freedoms in the Union is the sphere of migration. I believe that working citizens of our countries should have easier conditions for exercising their labor rights on the territory of any of the member States of the Union.

Modern technologies make it possible to significantly simplify the passage by our citizens of the required administrative procedures in the state of employment. It is necessary to provide an opportunity for citizens to perform the actions required for employment in another country in electronic format, including being in the country of their citizenship.

As a first step, it is proposed to work out the possibility of recognizing the results of a medical examination of a worker who has passed in the country of departure for staying in the Russian Federation by analogy with the application “Traveling without COVID-19”. You can expand its functionality and use it for new needs. “

For reference:

2006 The Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan establish the EDB … Key strategic objectives (7) – 04 Promoting digital transformation in the region; 07 Promoting the UN Sustainable Development Goals and ESG approaches in the Bank’s corporate governance.

Supporting institution: UN Environment programme.

The EDB as a member of international organisations. The EDB is a member of: […] World Economic Forum (WEF)

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Jul 11, 2023 5:55 PM

OT:

Hundreds more dead birds have been removed from two Aberdeenshire beaches amid avian flu fears.

About 330 had already been recovered from Stonehaven on Monday.

Oh please, my aching sides. I make no comment on the FACT they had to put “33” into this “story”

They really do treat the general public like utter morons.

Do not be that moron.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 11, 2023 1:53 PM

The homeless are beginning to realize the hopelessness of their situation.

Once the councilors start talking about removing the homeless from their encampment, another person drops off a gun in said same encampment.

Shortly after words a recruit picks up said weapon and wanders into town waving it aimlessly to attract the law, as the law consouls said recruit, a gunfight breaks out killing and severely wounding both participants, if one wonders what the perspective of the future holds, its the same things as the present.

Arnold
Arnold
Jul 14, 2023 11:26 AM

In the U.k you can still get fined and go to prison for being homeless.
Build back better Boris and the Conservative said in there manifesto in 2019 they would repel The Vagrancy Act which makes it a criminal offence to beg or be homeless on the street in England and Wales. The law was passed in the summer of 1824 – 197 years ago 

Imagine believing the torys.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 11, 2023 10:07 AM

Honestly, what do these discussions achieve? We are just listening to two random blokes chatting shit in the pub, aren’t we? Who are these people?
How many hours of Russia, uranium, CBDC etc etc do we need to listen to? Or discuss?
Why are we discussing the clown show they are putting on?
Why are we discussing CBDC like it’ll change anything?
It’s coming, it will be the mark of the beast and 99% of humans will trample one another to take it.

Dave
Dave
Jul 11, 2023 12:39 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Very Zen.
In way of an answer: humans can’t shut up.
The few who can, we never hear from, they are living sane lives.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 11, 2023 2:04 PM
Reply to  Dave

Right on, Dave. I think the genetic engineering clan should look into some method of creating all future generations as entirely mute. The silence would be golden…

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 11, 2023 2:14 PM
Reply to  Dave

That of course is not the whole picture.

The millions who have blindly swallowed whatever the mainstream ‘authorities’ have thrown at them are neither “living sane lives”, nor making their views heard here…

Dave
Dave
Jul 11, 2023 3:55 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes.
I am referring to Zen people I think.

zenpriest
zenpriest
Jul 11, 2023 6:23 PM
Reply to  Dave

Because it’s easier to talk than do anything. Easier to spend one’s days discussing the what, than resisting, disrupting, or changing oneself (these being synonymous).
When will people grow up? Remember how many years of ‘Brexit’ we were subjected to. It’s all some people spoke about for about five years. And for what? What did it achieve? Morons!
I’ll tell you what it achieved. It prevented people from living the sane, creative, sovereign lives you speak of.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 12, 2023 7:10 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Zen Priest is a great name … too bad Z.P. either knows nothing about Zen, or wants to mislead the ikebana crowd … maybe both?
P.S. Zen Priest, how many sesshins do you have under your rakusu?

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 11, 2023 8:42 AM

Put the stuff on paper so that one can skim it, FFS! Who has time to listen to hours of drivel. Plus, as others have mentioned, about a half of it is errs, ehhmmms, gasps for air.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 11, 2023 4:57 PM
Reply to  Hele

“Bonus hole” and “front hole” are deemed acceptable alternatives to vagina, a word which could “cause someone to feel hurt or distressed”

I mean – why, on reading that degradingly insulting crud, would anyone want to spend another second on this?

And I’m aware I spent more than a second in typing this. But I have felt an accelerating impatience with SHITE. And I reckon “the average punter” (who has probably always been ahead of me!) already knows what I am saying. And doesn’t even think it worth mentioning.

And it doesn’t even matter if the rest of the article protests against this degrading swill. To even bring it up is an obvious provocation.

The media are utterly beyond redemption. There is no more reason for them to exist.

Violet
Violet
Jul 11, 2023 6:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And what will they re – name the penis, ,the bonus stick? 🤣😂😅

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 12, 2023 7:46 PM
Reply to  Hele

Its not only the woke left. Everybody are mental. I can see it on this site too, especially in the commenter section.

Antonym
Antonym
Jul 11, 2023 6:07 AM

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wardropper
wardropper
Jul 11, 2023 2:22 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Most hilarious thing I’ve seen this year!

The last ‘journalist’ left the Groaniad long ago.

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 11, 2023 5:09 AM

Schwab not attending NATO due to ill health.

I know– one of his child-blood transfusions was from a kid who’d just had a covid vaxx and . . . .

I am not ashamed for wishing it. I am not.

NickM
NickM
Jul 11, 2023 7:48 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Unfortunately the Vaxx preferentially kills young and healthy people. It is normal flu which preferentially kills the old and infirm. Here’s wishing the Schwab a dose of Covid-19.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 11:15 AM
Reply to  Penelope

What happens if Schwab is removed? Nothing!
All his billions of followers will just make and elect a new Schwab, and new Penelope’s will think if just he also is removed……..

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 11, 2023 2:24 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

At least a spanner will be thrown in HIS works, and that, while not being a solution, is still some comfort.

Always assuming he isn’t too thick to register personal distress, that is…

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 11, 2023 7:34 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Erik– You’re right that his demise won’t help us. I was thinking more along the lines of VENGEANCE against a mass murderer.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 11:34 PM
Reply to  Penelope

I recognize your feelings. But I seek help in our Lord’s words: “Forgive us our guilt as we also forgive our debtors”, and “The vengeance is mine”.

But yes, its not an easy task to forgive our debtors when the anger is boiling.
:-D.

Hele
Hele
Jul 12, 2023 5:21 AM
Reply to  Penelope

PLLLLLLLLEASE DIE!

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 11, 2023 4:48 AM

Maybe it was Progy’s version of Canadian Trucker’s convoy– just a protest. The few images didn’t suggest citizenry thought it was prelude to civil war or revolution.
I’d guess Russian people wd welcome strong military action to win and end the war & likely Progy’s expressed frustration at slowness of the war, withholding of the necessary ammo for offensive action, etc.

NYT reports that Putin & Progy have recently met for the first time since the protest.

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 11, 2023 3:17 AM

Video
Wonderful Exposure of MANY Topics Censored by MANY Agencies in Social Media
In Dr. Aaron Kheriaty et al versus Biden et al

Be joyful; we won’t lose this one.

This case is big! Recent preliminary injunction against Fed Govt  
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/exclusive-dr-aaron-kheriaty-et-al

NickM
NickM
Jul 11, 2023 2:09 PM
Reply to  Penelope

From your Link:

“Kheriaty believes… many US government agencies have been … using their influence with social media directly and through academic IT/AI contractors to shape narratives on the internet…. This included the fabrication of Russian influence in Trump’s election in 2016, Hunter Biden’s laptop, Ukraine War, COVID-19 false narrative, vaccine and transgender ideologies. Kheriaty believes governments all over the world are creating a “matrix” along the lines outlined by journalist Michael Shellenberger.

Initial discovery has been sufficiently damaging, that a federal judge has issued preliminary injunction to halt activities of federal agencies and their designees probably including Stanford Internet Observatory Virality Project, University of Washington Center for an Informed Public, Graphika, to name just a few.
New Civil Liberties Alliance issued this report on July 5, 2023.”

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 11, 2023 2:32 PM
Reply to  Penelope

What’s to stop it going the way of Reiner Fuellmich (transl. “Purely Full-Of-It”)?

He looked promising for a short while too…

The FedGovt is a robot.
Being, as it is, without a conscience, it will do anything that serves a mechanistic interpretation of the meaning of life.
The courts will be corrupted in the usual fashion, and only ‘suitable’ judges will be allowed near the case.

Don’t you remember Fuellmich’s ‘astonishment’ when he ‘discovered’ that the corruption extended into the judicial system…?

Like, “DUUUHHHH!”?

That was just a short while before he evaporated altogether.

Please let me be wrong, but also let me know how likely that is.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 10, 2023 9:46 PM

Questions for the panel

Was it part of the plan for Ukraine to:
a) join Nato
b) be restored to its 1991 borders

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 10, 2023 8:48 PM

comment image

🤔
From Edmond de Rothschild’s LinkedIn page….

Are they eagerly anticipating the 100% mark ? what then?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 2:11 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

Then NWO and One World Government with One World religion, to Satan.

NickM
NickM
Jul 11, 2023 7:54 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

“Only connect” — EM Forster.

Internet is the Great Connector. But to achieve its function, the Internet must remain as Tim Berners Lee designed it to be: Free, Open and Neutral,

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 11, 2023 10:06 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

Privately They all look pretty much since 1963, congrats you’ve been looking at yourselves slowly over credit scores for sixty years. Old adage you are what you are now., and have always been.

Rob
Rob
Jul 10, 2023 8:32 PM

Jesse….. Talks….. With ….. Huge gaps……. In ….. His words.
Even at 1.25x speed 😂

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 10, 2023 8:45 PM
Reply to  Rob

I think it’s a creeping contagion in modern society.

Sports people probably started it with something like this:

“Well, Michael … er … we … er … always, you know … try to … erm … score … you know, er … sort of … erm … like, er … goals and stuff … but … er … sometimes … the Norwegians … erm … have a great … er … team … and we … you know … er … can’t … sort of … erm … like … beat them … you know …?

After several years of listening to such incoherent babbling, other media people incidentally get infected by it, only they know that they shouldn’t use all those ‘erm…’ and ‘you know … ‘ fillers.

So they skip them, and we are left with These . Huge . Gaps . In . Their . Words …

I wonder what it feels like to have a brain with unlinked neurons.
Perhaps Jesse will explain one day…

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 10, 2023 8:58 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I’m hearing two people speaking very clearly and at a comfortable, intelligible speed.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 10, 2023 10:43 PM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

“… … I proposed to you … … over email … … a discussion … … about Ukraine … …”

What I have noticed about this style of speaking is that people will simply take a breath when they run out of air (which is sometimes remarkably soon), and not when there would be a comma, a full stop, a semi-colon, a hyphen, or a new shading in a written text.

There is no flow, and it makes what you call ‘intelligible’ a lot more hard work to comprehend than it needs to be.

I can put up with it when the content is worth the effort, but I certainly wouldn’t describe it as ‘comfortable’…

It’s getting common enough that most people wouldn’t even notice it any more, but then people are increasingly tending to think in short sound-bites anyway, leading to large and complex subjects being beyond their grasp.

I reckon that’s part of the reason why the current takeover of people’s hearts and minds has been such a success.

I’m not trying to be a pedantic bore here.
I’m just concerned that our species should find some way of protecting itself against the multi-pronged intellectual and cultural attack which we are all forced to endure right now.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 2:26 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Confirming my little contribution. Solution? Close off the digital world and go out in real life!

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 11, 2023 2:09 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Indeed.
The fact that I have noticed this doesn’t mean I can’t deal with it personally.
Real life is always the answer – if you are lucky enough to stumble across it, or know where to look.

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 11, 2023 7:05 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Everything people do leads to atrophying their strength, abilities, fitness.

Ranging from technologies that atrophy physical and mental strength to policies favoring dimwits, cripples, and freeloaders to the detriment of the able and hardworking to assisted reproduction that allows weaklings to reproduce.

Some or lot of it is ‘humane’, sure, but we’re a species, animals of sorts, and biological laws apply, like it or not.

Is there are an intellectual and cultural attack from above right now? Or is it that the above phenomena are reaching a threshold where they have a visible detrimental impact? If former were the case, you’d have most of the populace opposing it. The opposite is the case. Looks to me like the latter is closer to reality.

People have fucked themselves into a corner. With mostly good intentions.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 11, 2023 11:41 AM

@People have fucked themselves into a corner. With mostly good intentions.

And the law has done just the opposite, with a side of denial naturally.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 12, 2023 7:17 PM

Fuck! That’s fuckin’ brilliant! How do you fucking do it? Shit!

NickM
NickM
Jul 11, 2023 8:02 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Reminds me of “A Voyage Round my Father” by John Mortimer. He tried his redoubtable father’s trick of “just counting silently” between portentious phrases. The judge jerked him back;

“Are you with us, Mr.Mortimer?”.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 2:20 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I can explain that. Its fragments and due to 8-10 hours a day in front of a flat screen.

Everything you see on Internet or TV screens is incomplete fragments of reality.
A photo is a fragment of reality without smell, noise, and sense of heat or cold.
A video is a row of photo fragments, you only hear fragments of the noise in the real world, without smell, and only imaginations of cold and heat and contact with the physical.
Graphs and figures are third party incorrect measures, based on wrong basic assumptions, some deliberately manipulated.

Spending your whole day with fragments of manipulated reality with only 1/3 of your senses in use, you end up speaking and writing fragments too, because this is the only life experience you have during your day, week, month and years in front of the flat screen.

Thus you end up having no clue about the real world, unable to make any complete real conclusions and judgements for the physical world, only fiddling in incomplete fragments from the false flat screen.

Roserval Parkun
Roserval Parkun
Jul 11, 2023 8:40 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

My woman owns a bar and I spend a considerable amount of time in there, observing the real reality in real time and having the real people unload the realities of their real lives on us.

Out of the large number of regular and less regular patrons, there are very very few who have any sort of clue as to what the fuck is going on. Their helplessly led by the nose by what some endeavor to decipher by putting together them fragments in front of a scree, or page for that matter.

Some people have a keen instinctive common sense that keeps them reasonably well grounded, without needing to understand how they’re being fucked with. Actually, quite a few do. But most go with the flow, whatever putrid shite happens to be flowing.

Quite an education, though. Get yourself a bar and try it sometime.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 11, 2023 11:29 AM

You observe what I observed too. Some people are self regulating and well functioning in regard to society and civilisation, they dont need the system.

I meet them regularly in third nations where you have to function without much considerations to law and rules. They exist in Western countries too but very few.

I have a couple of friends who had a bar. They are never doing it again. To hear all the drunk babble, dumb people, adults behaving like spoiled children, every day, were too much.;-).

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 12, 2023 7:18 PM

Fuck!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 11, 2023 2:21 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Hello Erik: Couldn’t – have —- said it – better — myself. The fragmentation of minds and pixelization of personal belief, have been ongoing since the birth of “talking pictures”. Modern humans are distorted mirrors in a circus fun house.

NickM
NickM
Jul 11, 2023 7:59 AM
Reply to  wardropper

A chemistry Prof used to tell us students before we answered his questions:

“The er and um are understood. You can leave them out”

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 11, 2023 2:05 PM
Reply to  NickM

I suppose such chemistry professors are banned today.
Might be construed as ‘offending’ a student…

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 11, 2023 10:09 AM
Reply to  wardropper

This is most noticeable in the ‘educated’, ‘professional’ and ‘upper middle’ classes. Excruciating to listen to at times. People with local accents talk more fluently.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 11, 2023 12:52 AM
Reply to  Rob

He’s looking at his tattoos in the mirror while he speaks, he gets distracted…😀