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We’re All Suspects Under the Government’s Precrime Program

John & Nisha Whitehead

“There is now the capacity to make tyranny total in America.”
James Bamford, journalist

We’re all being targeted now. We’re all guilty until proven innocent now.

And thanks to the 24/7 surveillance being carried out by the government’s spy network of fusion centers, we are all now sitting ducks, just waiting to be tagged, flagged, targeted, monitored, manipulated, investigated, interrogated, heckled and generally harassed by agents of the American police state.

Although these precrime programs are popping up all across the country, in small towns and big cities, they are not making us any safer but they are endangering individual freedoms.

Nationwide, there are upwards of 123 real-time crime centers (a.k.a. fusion centers), which allow local police agencies to upload and share massive amounts of surveillance data and intelligence with state and federal agencies culled from surveillance cameras, facial recognition technology, gunshot sensors, social media monitoring, drones and body cameras, and artificial intelligence-driven predictive policing algorithms.

These data fusion centers, which effectively create an electronic prison—a digital police state—from which there is no escape, are being built in partnership with big tech companies such as Microsoft, Google and Amazon, which helped to fuel the rise of police militarization and domestic surveillance.

While these latest expansions of the surveillance state are part of the Biden Administration’s efforts to combat domestic extremism through the creation of a “precrime” crime prevention agency, they have long been a pivotal part of the government’s plans for total control and dominion.

Yet this crime prevention campaign is not so much about making America safer as it is about ensuring that the government has the wherewithal to muzzle anti-government discontent, penalize anyone expressing anti-government sentiments, and preemptively nip in the bud any attempts by the populace to challenge the government’s authority or question its propaganda.

As JD Tuccille writes for Reason, “[A]t a time when government officials rage against ‘misinformation’ and ‘disinformation’ that is often just disagreement with whatever opinions are currently popular among the political class, fusion centers frequently scrutinize peaceful dissenting speech.”

Indeed, while the Biden Administration was recently dealt a legal blow over its attempts to urge social media companies to do more to combat so-called dis- and mis-information, these fusion centers are the unacknowledged powerhouses behind the government’s campaign to censors and retaliate against those who vocalize their disagreement and discontent with government policies.

Already, the powers-that-be are mobilizing to ensure that fusion centers have the ability to monitor and lockdown sectors of a community at a moment’s notice.

For instance, a 42,000-square-foot behemoth of a fusion center in downtown Washington is reportedly designed to “better prepare law enforcement for the next public health emergency or Jan. 6-style attack.” According to an agency spokeswoman, “Screens covering the walls of the new facility will show surveillance cameras around the city as well as social media accounts that may be monitored for threatening speech.”

It’s like a scene straight out of Steven Spielberg’s dystopian film Minority Report, set in 2054, where police agencies harvest intelligence from widespread surveillance, behavior prediction technologies, data mining, precognitive technology, and neighborhood and family snitch programs in order to capture would-be criminals before they can do any damage.

Incredibly, as the various nascent technologies employed and shared by the government and corporations alike—facial recognition, iris scanners, massive databases, behavior prediction software, and so on—are incorporated into a complex, interwoven cyber network aimed at tracking our movements, predicting our thoughts and controlling our behavior, the dystopian visions of past writers is fast becoming our reality.

Our world is now characterized by widespread surveillance, behavior prediction technologies, data mining, fusion centers, driverless cars, voice-controlled homes, facial recognition systems, cybugs and drones, and predictive policing (pre-crime) aimed at capturing would-be criminals before they can do any damage.

What once seemed futuristic no longer occupies the realm of science fiction.

The American police state’s take on the dystopian terrors foreshadowed by George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and Phillip K. Dick have all been rolled up into one oppressive pre-crime and pre-thought crime package.

In this way, the novel 1984 has become an operation manual for an omnipresent, modern-day surveillance state in which ordinary Americans find themselves labeled domestic extremists for engaging in lawful behavior that triggers the government’s precrime sensors.

The technocrats who run the surveillance state don’t even have to break a sweat while monitoring what you say, what you read, what you write, where you go, how much you spend, whom you support, and with whom you communicate and then classifying you as a danger.

Computers now do the tedious work of trolling social media, the internet, text messages and phone calls for potentially anti-government remarks, all of which is carefully recorded, documented, and stored to be used against you someday at a time and place of the government’s choosing.

In this way, with the help of automated eyes and ears, a growing arsenal of high-tech software, hardware and techniques, government propaganda urging Americans to turn into spies and snitches, as well as social media and behavior sensing software, government agents are spinning a sticky spider-web of threat assessments, behavioral sensing warnings, flagged “words,” and “suspicious” activity reports aimed at snaring potential enemies of the state.

It’s also a setup ripe for abuse.

For instance, an investigative report by the Brennan Center found that “Over the last two decades, leaked materials have shown fusion centers tracking protestors and casting peaceful activities as potential threats. Their targets have included racial justice and environmental advocates, right-wing activists, and third-party political candidates.”

One fusion center in Maine was found to have been “illegally collecting and sharing information about Maine residents who weren’t suspected of criminal activity. They included gun purchasers, people protesting the construction of a new power transmission line, the employees of a peacebuilding summer camp for teenagers, and even people who travelled to New York City frequently.”

In one Florida county, police have been using their precrime program to generate “lists of people it considers likely to break the law, based on arrest histories, unspecified intelligence and arbitrary decisions by police analysts.” Then, according to the Tampa Bay Times, deputies are deployed “to find and interrogate anyone whose name appears, often without probable cause, a search warrant or evidence of a specific crime. They swarm homes in the middle of the night, waking families and embarrassing people in front of their neighbors. They write tickets for missing mailbox numbers and overgrown grass, saddling residents with court dates and fines. They come again and again, making arrests for any reason they can.”

The goal? “Make their lives miserable until they move or sue.”

This is how the government is turning a nation of citizens into suspects and would-be criminals.

This transformation is being driven by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the agency notorious for militarizing the police and SWAT teams; spying on activists, dissidents and veterans; stockpiling ammunition; distributing license plate readers; contracting to build detention camps; tracking cell-phones with Stingray devices; carrying out military drills and lockdowns in American cities; using the TSA as an advance guard; conducting virtual strip searches with full-body scanners; carrying out soft target checkpoints; directing government workers to spy on Americans; conducting widespread spying networks using fusion centers; carrying out Constitution-free border control searches; funding city-wide surveillance cameras; and utilizing drones and other spybots.

Twenty years after being formed in the wake of 9/11, the DHS is a massive, costly, power-hungry bureaucracy working hard to ensure that the government is all-seeing, all-knowing and all-powerful.

Yet here’s the thing: you don’t have to do anything illegal or challenge the government’s authority in order to be flagged as a suspicious character, labeled an enemy of the state and locked up like a dangerous criminal.

In fact, all you need to do is use certain trigger words, surf the internet, communicate using a cell phone, drive a car, stay at a hotel, purchase materials at a hardware store, take flying or boating lessons, appear suspicious to a neighbor, question government authority, or generally live in the United States.

The following activities are guaranteed to get you censored, surveilled, eventually placed on a government watch list, possibly detained and potentially killed.

Use harmless trigger words like cloud, pork and pirates. Use a cell phone. Drive a car. Attend a political rally. Express yourself on social media. Serve in the military. Disagree with a law enforcement official. Call in sick to work. Limp or stutter. Appear confused or nervous, fidget, whistle or smell bad. Allow yourself to be seen in public waving a toy gun or anything remotely resembling a gun, such as a water nozzle or a remote control or a walking cane, for instance. Stare at a police officer. Appear to be pro-gun, pro-freedom or anti-government. Attend a public school. Speak truth to power.

It’s just a matter of time before you find yourself wrongly accused, investigated and confronted by police based on a data-driven algorithm or risk assessment culled together by a computer program run by artificial intelligence.

Before long, every household in America will be flagged as a threat and assigned a threat score.

Without having ever knowingly committed a crime or been convicted of one, you and your fellow citizens have likely been assessed for behaviors the government might consider devious, dangerous or concerning; assigned a threat score based on your associations, activities and viewpoints; and catalogued in a government database according to how you should be approached by police and other government agencies based on your particular threat level.

Combine predictive policing with surveillance, overcriminalization and precrime programs, then add in militarized police trained to shoot first and ask questions later, and as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, you’ll be lucky to escape with your life.

If you’re not scared yet, you should be.

Originally published by the Rutherford Institute
Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]

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Jeff the Beast
Jeff the Beast
Jul 20, 2023 3:10 PM

All people writing these stupid bullshit articles like the one above should immediately be incriminated and locked up!!!!

Elmo
Elmo
Jul 15, 2023 10:48 PM

as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries

Gotta love how Whitehead never, ever, fails to insert this plug in his articles.

lynch
lynch
Jul 15, 2023 6:52 PM

Elon Musk re branded twitter using the conservatives.
He reinstated the ones who got banned, then got them to verify themselves and charged them $120 for the pleasure and gave them a blue tick, like good little children and now has banned anyone from viewing any account unless you go through the verification process.
The Freedom lovers who screamed vaccine passport didn’t take long to pay for the blue tik.

Admin Support
Admin Support
Jul 15, 2023 6:03 PM

If you’re not on a Govt watch list by now, then you are doing something wrong & should be disappointed with yourself.

(Amazed if this one gets through)

Admin Support
Admin Support
Jul 15, 2023 7:41 PM
Reply to  Admin Support

Ooh, see the reserve phycology worked that time.. jeez you guys are funny.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 16, 2023 2:53 AM
Reply to  Admin Support

I wish I could say the same about you.

Admin Support
Admin Support
Jul 16, 2023 11:05 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Lol shot.. Heard a tune lately that I believe might resonate with many on this path. Truth by Alexander Ebert, the lyrics are quite beautiful. Enjoy 🎶The truth is that I never shook my shadow Every day it’s trying to trick me into doing battle Calling out “faker” only get me rattled Want to pull me back behind the fence with the cattle Building your lenses Digging your trenches Put me on the front line Leave me with a dumb mind With no defenses But your defenses If you can’t stand to feel the pain then you are senseless Since this I’ve grown up some Different kind of fighter And when the darkness come let it inside you Your darkness is shining My darkness is shining Have faith in myself Truth I’ve seen a million numbered doors on the horizon Now which is the future you chosen before you gone… Read more »

Admin Support
Admin Support
Jul 26, 2023 12:39 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Well, have to finally say, that I feel no compulsion to be funny towards thee. But one doesms find your curbing of free flowing discourse extremely ‘funny’ as in peculiar.

You know what you are. Others see it too. Plausible deniability is a tell not an Allie.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Jul 15, 2023 4:59 PM

“Before long, every household in America will be flagged as a threat and assigned a threat score”

the ‘will be’ above is redundant.

Snowden confirmed everyone is in the database. government agencies have already assigned a score to everyone.

it is obvious the score is updatable and indicates how obedient or belligerent every person is.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 16, 2023 3:29 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

You are running and running away from yourself. You must have done something wrong, something you dont want nobody to know about. What you must have done is something wrong.

If every household has been flagged, its because you and they have done something wrong. Logic. But you cant run away from yourself…………………….LOL.

Lexxie
Lexxie
Jul 23, 2023 2:04 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

” Every man thinketh there burden is the heaviest.”

Howard
Howard
Jul 15, 2023 4:45 PM

There’s nothing anyone can do to prevent people from assisting their own imprisonment.

People have a knack for always thinking they’re under assault, be it from other people or from things; or even from themselves.

A neighbor was hospitalized several years ago for pneumonia. They talked her into getting a defibrillator. She said it gave her “peace of mind.”

That’s what way too many people want: “peace of mind.” And there’s always someone there to offer it.

“Peace of mind” is the cornerstone of tyranny.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 15, 2023 1:38 PM

Contrary to propaganda, practically all spying has failed abysmally to thwart significant dangers or spot relevant developments.

The target of spying extends beyond dissent to industrial espionage, insider trading, blackmail, etc. The databases record our links to each contact in politics, business, leisure, etc. If any spying is illegal domestically (and likely to be exposed), an allied government obliges in exchange for the same favour.

Rav
Rav
Jul 15, 2023 12:46 PM

Science fiction films teach us something. If you look closely enough

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 11:00 PM
Reply to  Rav

Who is the asshat that gave you a thumbs down?

Elmo
Elmo
Jul 15, 2023 11:01 PM
Reply to  Rav

Agreed. Plan 9 from Outer Space certainly taught me a lot.

eliger
eliger
Jul 15, 2023 11:26 AM

It is no longer about invading other counties, the military budget is now spent on controlling and surveillance on it own people

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jul 15, 2023 12:06 PM
Reply to  eliger

The corporation is liquidating the USA and going global..

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 15, 2023 1:48 PM
Reply to  eliger

Probably both.

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 15, 2023 10:52 AM

Government for the people by the people ? Not any more it seems. Appears to be a creeping form of fascism by those operating the levers behind the curtain.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 15, 2023 1:45 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Seems like nearly everyone is private under cover fbi recently.

Kalvin Stardust
Kalvin Stardust
Jul 15, 2023 10:32 AM

I want more memes!

Matt Black
Matt Black
Jul 15, 2023 8:27 AM

thx Off-G for my dialy dose of conspiratainment

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 15, 2023 8:59 AM
Reply to  Matt Black

Middle class Matt.

Safe.

For now.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 15, 2023 3:17 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Isn’t he a brand of paint?

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 15, 2023 7:59 AM

The Para$ite$ are paranoid.
When the $y$tem crashes they will be targeted by angry, frustrated, hungry, mobs of millions, armed to the teeth.
They SHOULD be scared. Very scared.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Jul 15, 2023 1:42 PM
Reply to  Johnny

And the system WILL break down. One barrage of sun spots will do it in one fell swoop. All that money will have been wasted.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 15, 2023 9:15 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

if money were a unit of time, surely it would not be wasted.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 15, 2023 1:49 PM
Reply to  Johnny

So should we.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 2:22 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

After decades of being scared, I reckon we could allow ourselves the luxury of fixing the problem instead.
Once you start dealing with life, it often turns out not to be so difficult after all.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 15, 2023 9:14 PM
Reply to  wardropper

A side of caution with respect to difficulties, first, a woman is twice as complicated as a man.

And b/c there are as many different types of woman as there are bra sizes, the complications (solving the problem), actually rises to infinity while her problems still reside right here on Earth.

Its been anything but easy watching her try to evolve, and even more difficult actually accomplishing it, b/c so few understand her and so many need to control just about everything under the sun. C the problem yet?

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 2:18 PM
Reply to  Johnny

“Paranoid” is when they imagine somebody is out to get them.
What you describe is not imagination.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Jul 15, 2023 7:37 AM

Bring it on, I say. The news you read compared to the news you get directly from your local area are always quite different. Police Officers in Australia are at an all time low in terms of recruitment. both NSW and QLD I know this fact directly. Further, the bar has been lowered for the defense forces too in order to recruit. A young indirect family member who decided to join the air force as an officer (to my disapproval), only had to pass a piss weak fitness test. 20 sit ups, a beep test of 6 and run 2km in 13 mins. Fuck me, if one could not pass this test at any age, one would need to take a good look at yourself. 2ks in 13 min is a brisk walk. These are the people recruited to defend the country. Further they get 50k per year, so when… Read more »

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 15, 2023 10:54 AM

Defend the country ? Against ?

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Jul 15, 2023 1:43 PM
Reply to  Grafter

China

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 15, 2023 11:26 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Jul 15, 2023 11:17 PM
Reply to  Grafter

True. I guess that’s why no fitness is required. The actors will take care of the war theater.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 15, 2023 1:54 PM

‘Draw cash from your bank and only support businesses that take it.’ 

Gold would be better.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 2:19 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

You can’t eat gold.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 15, 2023 5:06 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Oh, yes you can. It is real money. The only real money. And it’s been that way for 5000 years. So you can shove your CBDC. Gold is the only real money, that’s why they keep in vaults.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 7:13 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

You still think there’s anything left in those vaults…?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 9:58 PM
Reply to  wardropper

They have to be somewhere, as gold is eternal. For you and me there are plenty of opportunities buying a little gold and silver bullion.

The population of Turkey, India, and now China are more used to secure and back up their money with fine metal.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Jul 15, 2023 11:20 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

Unfortunately the stores that sell products don’t accept Gold at this time. Further, if there comes a time when notes are worthless and one has to use Gold. One would be better off equipped with a water filter, a rifle and some ammo.

Sam
Sam
Jul 15, 2023 6:54 AM

Honestly? Who cares what one backward, soon-to-be-bankrupt failed country is doing? America has been one giant gulag for 200 years (see “Whiskey Rebellion” for more on that), and everyone knows it.

As for the rest, it feels like you’re getting high on fear porn. Just take a look at the Stasi, which tried to do everything (and more) on your list, and what happened? Virtually nothing. Even political criminals in prison had to be let go after a few months because otherwise work wouldn’t get done. And all that “surveillance terror” failed to stop continuous escapes across the border and protests and non-stop acts of rebellion.

“1984” is a hell of a good book, but it’s fiction. Totalitarian systems ALWAYS fail. Always. Not because people are plucky and resilient but because chaos always wins.

Ian Brown
Ian Brown
Jul 15, 2023 9:18 AM
Reply to  Sam

Yes, but the transitional period can be miserable. The Roman Empire, founded on perpetual war (rather like the US) took several hundred years from its peak to unravel.

NickM
NickM
Jul 15, 2023 9:21 AM
Reply to  Sam

“Totalitarian systems ALWAYS fail… because chaos always wins.”

“Uncertainty Rules, OK?” — Wehner von Heisenberg, quantum physicist

ImpObs
ImpObs
Jul 15, 2023 11:48 AM
Reply to  Sam

How many millions have to die before it fails is probably more pertinant than whether it fails.

Consider Stalins notorious 1937 order No. 00447 that called for the mass execution and
exile of “socially harmful elements” as “enemies of the people”.

https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23/naimark-stalin-genocide-092310/

KAMALA HARRIS: “When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and REDUCE POPULATION, more of our children can breath clean air and drink clean water.”

https://twitter.com/KamVTV/status/1679988804168347648

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 15, 2023 1:41 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Now, we have “domestic terrorists” and “enemy combatants”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 10:02 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Leftists should be inside in an mental asylum.

Elmo
Elmo
Jul 15, 2023 10:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Indeed, as should rightists as well.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 6:09 AM

This is a whole lot of whining that’s coming quite a few hours if not days of years after midnight, I’m afraid. The last time I lived in America, which was decades ago, I already had the impression that it was a police state with tight surveillance, with an uncompromising, thoroughly stupid pig always lurking behind the nearest corner ready to leap into action upon ascertaining any indication of a possible violation, which could be anything. Never felt worse anywhere in the world than in the US, especially given the sheer stupidity of the cops, their brutality, and propensity to shoot you on the spot. Americans should have done something about that earlier. Too late now to whine. On the flip side of the coin, the extent of crime and aggressiveness is beyond belief; some places are like a fucking jungle. Frankly, no wonder that the pigs are the way… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 15, 2023 12:51 PM

Exceptionalism (imperialism) came home to roost.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 15, 2023 11:07 PM

That you only lived in America for a short time, only proves you don’t understand, or qualify, for our culture. America certainly isn’t the only nation on the planet turning into, or already was, a police state. What the **** are you doing about where you live, **** all? So We the People are the enemy, when faced with a police state? You are contradictory. You whine we aren’t doing anything and at the same time we are the enemy. Do you work for the Six Eyes? America has had, and still has, the largest middle class of any nation on the fucking planet. That is a clear sign of prosperity and people getting along just fine. You obviously have a bias. Move to a city in France today and explain WTF is happening there! Right, so now the police state is justified because you are a cared *****? You… Read more »

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 16, 2023 7:07 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You have NO FUCKING IDEA about life in other parts of the world, so shut the fuck up about it.

Likewise, shut the fuck up about American exceptionalism, the world is sick of it. The US is a failed state.

Not sure who you mean by “We the People”, but “You the Idiot” need to step up comprehension and coherence. The pigs’ enemy are the criminals who in America come galore. Plus, they all have their heads as fucked up as you with your idea that shooting people left and right is the way to solve problems.

Shove the accusations about tyrant up your ass, you unconscionable motherfucker. There are people with different views and opinions, didn’t they tell you, you collectivist twit? Not everybody is necessarily the same kind of cretin like you. Live with it.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 17, 2023 5:03 AM

How is life in the cities of France these days? Like living in a war zone? How about life for Ukrainians and Russians? I bet they enjoy their war and CBDC. Then there is Germany where people are arrested for Free Expression. How about Holland where the government is about to euthanize the nation’s entire farm animal population and destroy farms. How about Ireland where they are also going to destroy farms and farm animals? Maybe South Africa where white farmers and their families are being murdered. If the USA is a failed state, then the rest of the entire world is a third world shit hole. The USA does not have any more crime or criminals than Europe. Anyone that has a fucking brain knows that organized crime came from Italy and France to America. The Heroine Traide to be exact. A trade that starts in Turkey and Afghanistan.… Read more »

Minstrel Peasant
Minstrel Peasant
Jul 17, 2023 8:55 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Ma fille qui habite en France me dit que ca va, tovarish. Aucun probleme, la vie est belle. Les autres pays, j’ai aucune idee. As far as America, everything has been imported there. Or stolen by Americans. America is certifiably the stupidest empire in history. Built on precisely the stupid kind of thinking that you exhibit, that you can accomplish anything with a gun, no brains (expertise) needed. Funny that you should be dissing the French for protesting since that’s what you’re incessantly yapping about, as per the blather about watering the tree of liberty. It seems that there is some of it all over the place, but not much in your neck of the woods, eh? Is everybody else yapping about it online, scared shitless in their basement like you? What you waiting for – the tree of liberty is thirsty, man! Protection for individual rights? Wasn’t it in… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 17, 2023 1:15 PM

Right we are so stupid that Europe dragged un into two world wars to save their asses. Name 10 things that America has “stolen”? Don’t forget that the Americas were colonized by Europeans, and that Europeans were the ones that migrated there the most. Never said that anything can be accomplished with a gun, other than throwing off the chains of tyranny. That is a bold faced lie and just your bias. What is happening in France isn’t French People it is migrants, and a pretext for Macaroni to be a worse dictator. Your ignorance is noted. Agreed that mandates are totally against individual rights. Never said otherwise. Doesn’t change the fact that we have a Bill of Rights that says more than any other nation on the planet. Including the right to BEAR ARMS. There were plenty of local areas in the US where you wouldn’t notice that there… Read more »

Minstrel Peasant
Minstrel Peasant
Jul 17, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

What I’m trying to explain to you is a) you’re not a free man – you keep yapping about government this, government that, the other thing, this country, that country, some other fucking country. Get over this bullshit already. Fuck some bill of rights, who gives a shit about some piece of paper. You’re a prisoner of your governmental worldview, and b) you’ll accomplish ZERO with a gun. Your blather about shooting your way out of tyranny makes you a patented imbecile. Who precisely you’re goona shoot? Who are the tyrants? The tyrants, you patented imbecile, are the majority of people – in your case Americans – who willingly embrace the ideology that drives the stuff that’s happening. Get it through your demented skull already.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 17, 2023 8:42 PM

Do you enter business deals without a contract? When you get dicked over by another business person, do you not have recourse because of the contract? The gun has proven to accomplish what is needed to accomplish against tyrannical government. History has proven this fact 1000s of times. So your argument is that never in history has anyone been able to use guns to defeat tyranny? I can only presume based on that posture that you are ignorant to what tyranny even is, and history. That the USA has social engineered the masses into blind following ignorance, is not a reason or excuse, to assume that the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights are no longer in play. A contract is a contract and is always in play until the contract is fully executed. In the case of the USA, and the federal government’s breach of that contract,… Read more »

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 18, 2023 9:44 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Thomas, for FUCKS sakes, your are the fucking one who’s yapping about government all the fucking time!!!!

I don’t give a flying fuck about government or country. They can all kiss my ass. I don’t identify with any nation. That’s collectivist stupidity.

No, I don’t sign contract to do business. I never have. Well, I have on a few occasions, but the absolute vast majority of stuff I’ve done is on a mutually beneficial basis. And I have a record of decades doing that.

What’s a contract good for, you twit? For running to the court (=government) for protection when somebody fucks you over?

Ditto all the declarations and bills you running at the mouth about. You can wipe your ass with them. Who decides how they’re applied? The government again.

Get a life FFS!!

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 18, 2023 7:16 PM

You seem to give a fuck about the US government since you run your pie hole about it.

Sure you don’t. As others have pointed out, and I don’t doubt it, you are likely just a government lackie working for Brigade 77.

Only idiots don’t sign contracts for doing business, especially when 10s of thousands of dollars are at stake.

Courts that deal with contract disputes are not criminal courts. And having a contract, and having recourse, is smarter than not.

No one promised that the Declaration of Independence, Constitution or Bill of Rights would stop tyranny. That is up to We the People, not government. That the government is corrupt is because We the People did not hold them accountable and exercise vigilance.

I would not expect some red coat royal peter puffer to understand that.

Get a brain.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 5:10 AM

This ends, like the Salem witch hunts, when one of the ringleaders realizes that he, himself, has far too much to lose. It may be a colossal fortune, it might be his head, it might be his soul, or it might be all three – the things considered to be of greatest value certainly vary from person to person. At all events, I think a very large portion of the world has finally had enough of being Mr. Nice Guy towards Mr. Ringleader… We have to get beyond hand-wringing about the next Orwell chapter they are going to inflict upon us, and we have to get beyond pre-emptively cowering in its shadow. We have already memorized that instruction manual, and now we know it better than they do. It’s time to use that knowledge. It’s time to be blunt, and many of us have shown recently that we are quite… Read more »

les online
les online
Jul 15, 2023 4:43 AM

“Vee haff vays to make you change yer mind !”…(adolf)…

Room 101 is actually your teevee set…(anon)…

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 2:36 AM

SCARED…? I fear nothing except my lord and savior. Nothing they can do to me here will affect my standing in God’s kingdom. Bring your worst world, I fear you not!

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 12:11 AM

This is not the only thing. Forced corona boosters will apply to anyone who wish to participate in the US socialist society programme for green freedom and peace.

Those who conform will be rewarded handsomely, and those who wish to be lonely wolves or outsiders will punished and sent to labour and reeducation camps……………LOL.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 5:17 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Nobody will be rewarded handsomely.

Words are very cheap in such circles, and those who conform will merely receive verbal praise as anonymous members of a zillion-strong mob of obedient citizens – “for services to BigBrotherLand”, or some such nonsense.

That’s it.
They’ll get nothing more.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Mark Carney, the most influential Central Banker in the world ref:

23 September 2019: “Firms that align their business models to the transition to a net zero [carbon] world will be rewarded handsomely. Those that fail to adapt will cease to exist.”

22 September 2019, “Changes in climate policies, technologies and physical risks in the transition to a net zero world will prompt reassessments of the value of virtually every asset. The financial system will reward companies that adjust and punish those who don’t.”

As always papa has his arguments well documented……………..LOL.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 7:12 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Ah, but you’re talking about ‘firms’ and ‘companies’.

I’m talking about human beings.

Of course firms and companies are rewarded handsomely.
That’s why they exist.

But you and I are not going to be rewarded handsomely, whether we lick 10,000 CEO arses, or none at all.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Just wag your little poodle tail, jump around on two legs, and declare you are and have always been green all over the place, except in one single spot where you are brown.

Then all doors will open up in all these firms and companies, and you will have almost unlimited access to usury loans.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 15, 2023 10:13 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Your all lying Gonorrhea’s that have Gonarears imo.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 15, 2023 2:28 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Back to your ward, Clive.
And no cigarettes today.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 14, 2023 10:51 PM

This is why we have a Second Amendment. Even if half of all Americans die by 2030, and only 3% of the remaining stand up against the government, it is still a number much bigger than the military. In the end, all wars are a numbers game. This is not to suggest that I want, or that anyone should want, war, conflict, violence, etc. It is to suggest that this is the current trajectory, like it or not. Especially when the state is censoring free expression. China is the pilot program. Russia, Australia, New Zealand, North Africa, Canada, most of Europe, USA, Brazil, etc. etc etc. ,are at varying stages of implementation of the same SkyNet system. We will all have to make a choice. Risk everything, including life, in the fight for freedom and liberty, else live on your knees sucking the government teet. The Tree of Liberty is… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 12:15 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I have my two cars and my pay check every month, and the government has always treated me good. I trust my government and I see no wrong doing.

I am fine where I am, and its not my problem that you guys have personal problems.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 15, 2023 1:10 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

You trust your government? WTF are you doing here? I don’t get it.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 2:39 AM

It’s a stupid troll…nothing else needs to be understood.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 3:50 AM
Reply to  Scoopais

The comment is ironic, a parody. Too advanced for your little brain.
But I gave you a thumb up for your scared answer .

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 2:38 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

GO AWAY IGNORANT TROLL…!

judith
judith
Jul 15, 2023 12:21 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

It was a joke.

Grafter
Grafter
Jul 15, 2023 11:01 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

The attitude of a subservient, domesticated slave.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 15, 2023 1:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Smug or what!

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Jul 15, 2023 2:10 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

x

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 2:37 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I stand ready!

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 6:16 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I’d venture to say that you’ll do complete fuck all. Your yapping on the Internet instead of doing the stuff you’re promote being a clear indication.

It’s full well possible that you’re fucking shill, a plant intended to attract people who might be inclined to do some of the shit you advocate and eliminate them.

If not, get it through your nitwit second-amendment brain, violence will not resolve the predicament the world is facing. The world, especially America, is facing a civilization collapse. Implosion caused by intrinsic problems built into our system. How the fuck are you gonna solve that by watering the tree of liberty, idiot?

Duckman
Duckman
Jul 15, 2023 7:51 AM

i recently discovered what is known as the “day tapes” recolections from back in 1969, released in 1988, a vivid description of how we got to “here”, how it has been orchestrated, most particularly in america and how even in 1969 the orator felt able to reveal because even back then

“everything is in place and no one can stop us now”

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/advanced-sociopathy-class-day-tapes

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jul 15, 2023 3:57 PM

I have all the required kit.
Started a homestead three years ago.
Stored food and rainwater collection.
Raising animals and garden.
Live in a geographical transition zone that was sustainable in the 1800s.
WTF are you doing?

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 4:53 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

I don’t really give a shit where you allegedly live. You could be a shill corresponding in the CIA basement for what I know. None of your fucking business what I’m doing either.

I was just venturing to say that you’ll do big shit as far as watering the tree of liberty as per your incessant rants.

Incidentally, how exactly are you planning to water that tree of liberty?

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 15, 2023 6:16 PM

If you don’t give a shit, then why respond to my post?
Obviously you are the one not doing anything.

Rants? I am repeating the words of our Founding Fathers and those that gave their blood, and spilt blood, in the American War of Independence (AWI). Or do you think freedom and liberty are at no cost?

I intend to water the Tree of Liberty with the blood of traitorous tyrants.

You won’t make it.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 7:45 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I don’t give a flying fuck about your founding fathers and the AWI. You can piss on the tree of liberty for what I care. I’m not interested in you personally, whatever you are – a genuinely deluded twit or a shill/provocateur.

I respond to your rants because of the idiotic message they contain.

Who are the traitorous tyrants, dumbo? And how are you gonna water the tree of liberty?

Can you kindly fuck off with this shit? This kind of violent talk, let alone action, will not solve any-fucking-thing. It’s only liable to get this website shit down.

Shut the fuck up already!

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 15, 2023 10:57 PM

Obviously you are just an angry NPC of no substance.
That you need to ask those questions only proves you are ignorant.
Make me shut up, Bitch.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Jul 15, 2023 7:54 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I’m optimistic the push with inflation will make us all poor enough to the point we have nothing to loose. Then we will have the motivation to defeat anyone on a salary.

This is the tight rope they walk. They need to keep us comfortable enough not to care about our fellow human, because when we all have nothing, then we all stand up. There is a reason for all these Castles with high walls and moats, this is not their first rodeo. The new kids on the block have in inherited this history and information. Enslaving the masses is nothing new, they have masterd free range slavery, now they want more power.

That said, the promoted digital currency system is designed to isolate each of us so we can’t stand up and can’t stand together. This is the last stand.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jul 15, 2023 4:03 PM

If they collapse the grid and food production stops, at least 50% perish in 6 to 9 months.

When considering that ~72% of people don’t know what CBDC is, and how it can be programmed, I would expect they already have the power, and it is just a matter of how subtle they decide to be.

History is a lesson that teaches it usually requires some kind of massacre to wake people up to tyranny and oppression.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 4:53 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Care to muse why the fuck ‘they’ would do that?

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 15, 2023 6:22 PM

Collapsing of the grid and food production would be all about control.

Musk is creating a satellite based internet (StarLink) for this reason. Imagine a “Cyber Polygon” event takes place. TPTB then announce that you can use StarLink, and buy food, if you move to the big cities, that are timed zones, and get their mark, because big cities are the only areas where these services will be available. Economic and Infrastructure collapse as a pretext to force migration into “Smart Cities”.

The massacre could take on many forms during the process of the Great Reset. People forced into “re-education camps”, forced starvation or exposure, and or outright gunning people down.

That you have to ask says you aren’t informed and aren’t prepared.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 7:46 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I asked fucking why not fucking what. Hard of hearing or hard of listening?

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 15, 2023 10:56 PM

This is exactly what you asked,
“Care to muse why the fuck ‘they’ would do that?”

Based on what I said, your question was regarding this statement,
“If they collapse the grid and food production stops, at least 50% perish in 6 to 9 months.”

I answered your question.

Considering this is a digital forum of typed words, and I’m not blind, there is nothing to hear or listen to.
Obviously you are the one with a problem.

Fuck off already.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 16, 2023 7:09 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

So, WHY would they make perish 50% in six to nine months?

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 17, 2023 4:56 AM

Control, why else?
I said IF, also. Meaning, the majority of those that would perish will crawl on their hands and knees to the Smart Cities, begging government to save them because they were not prepared, and don’t have the ability to fend for themselves.

Besides the fact that these parasites get off on making people suffer. Exposure and starvation have been the weapon of tyrants throughout history. The most recent being the Russians and Chinese. I suggest you research the meaning of the word DEMOCIDE.

That you need to ask these questions only proves you are not informed about what is going on.

No matter how good a musician you are, playing them a nice tune isn’t going to save you or anyone else.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 14, 2023 10:48 PM

Nothing new here apart from the technology. The FBI was tracking civil rights activists (including MLK) well before the era of ubiquitous computing — in fact you could say that the sci-fi authors got their ideas from extrapolating life as they knew it at the time.

The good news — if there is any — is that while the modern era is more of a panopticon its also vulnerable to being fed garbage. Paradoxically hiding from it is a sure way to attract attention. Feeding the machine is far more effective since it never throws anything away, it just tries to knit everything it knows together forming a giant conspiracy out of the noise.

NickM
NickM
Jul 15, 2023 9:50 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Good advice from an AI expert. Disable the beast by feeding it because for AI, garbage in is garbage out.

Even better, use these tools but use them properly because they are merely modern versions of old tools. You can stuff the mouth of Cerberus with dirt and enter Dante’s Inferno, but it is better to pass through on the steep climb to Purgatory.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 15, 2023 12:55 PM
Reply to  NickM

Using AI also trains it further for the would-be overlords. After you become dependent, it can be cut off at any time.

NickM
NickM
Jul 15, 2023 4:38 PM
Reply to  mgeo

“it [Artificial Intelligence] can be cut off any time”.

So can the real thing. Same as Artificial Respiration.

“Uncertainty Rules, OK?” — Wehner Heisenberg.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 14, 2023 10:29 PM

You get what you pay for (your tax dollars that is). That’s the thing, we’re in effect paying for our own police state. How humiliating. It’s like someone making you dig your own grave. At least ten years ago I started calling the military industrial complex, the military/law enforcement/security industrial complex because of how it’s all melded together with the same major corporations leading the way in all aspects. I think Ike (Eisenhower 1961 speech about the MIC) was a little short sighted in that no way could he envision what we’ve got going now and will have in the future. But scared, not going to go there. Don’t tell people they should be scared. Pissed off maybe, not scared. Or like Howard Beale so excellently put forth in Network, “I want you to get MAD! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot – I… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 14, 2023 10:53 PM

You can add to military/law enforcement/security industrial complex, Banking, Food Production, Transportation Production, Technology Production, Energy Production, and all forms of Media Entertainment / Information.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 7:10 AM

go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell: ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not gonna take this anymore!’ Sure you can do that. What good that’s gonna do, I don’t know. Some of them surveillance doodads will probably pick you up, and a rapid response unit will be dispatched pronto to put you away before you start watering the tree of liberty. The civilization is fucked up. Occidental civilization has fucked itself into a corner. There are intrinsic flaws in the socioeconomic model that not only haven’t been addressed, but have been exacerbated. They’ve come home to roost. Gotta address the systemic issues, formulate a new vision. Then promote it. Then put it in place and live it until the next incarnation of the present-day fucks corrupt it and it will be time to do that once again. Getting mad is useless. Idiots… Read more »

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 15, 2023 2:34 PM

I think you’re missing the point Potty Mouth. The point is you have to get mad before you get pensive and address the systemic issues. Otherwise it won’t work.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 15, 2023 4:56 PM

Not sure, not sure.

It used to work like that with my ex. She’d first have to get mad, have a fit, smash a chair or two, and then, when she wound down a couple of days later, or weeks .. ha ha … we could try to work stuff out.

You mean everybody is a fucking nutcase like that? None of my other women ever did anything like that!

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 15, 2023 10:59 PM

Obviously you are a fucking nutcase, and attract the same.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 16, 2023 7:53 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Probably. It’s been fun having a passionate partner, though. Try it sometime!

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Jul 16, 2023 12:46 AM

That sounds suspiciously like expecting change to come from the ballot box.

Never. Anger. Fury.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 16, 2023 7:57 AM
Reply to  Nick Baam

Change will only come if you have something (new) to offer. You, or we, got shit.

Going back is not change and it won’t happen. Plus, going back would only mean that you’d eventually get to the point where you’re now. But if that’s the change what you want, to what point in time would you like to go back?

Or, what sort of change do you have in mind?

Anger? Fury? Well, you can smash a thing or two, but when the hangover wears off, you’ll be back at square one. Grow the fuck up.

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Jul 16, 2023 5:53 PM

Time to smash a thing or two or three or the whole bloody works, asshole.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 14, 2023 10:25 PM

My comment is yet to appear but I wanted to add this on the topic of present day gullibilty as opposed to the ancient tribal sort:

I just stumbled on this little interchange between two mighty Trotskyites on that old WSWS:

Skip: “It’s the middle of July and I’ve been sick with covid19 all week. The pandemic is far fron* over. As the virus spreads at its own will.”

Carolyn Zaremba: “Sorry to hear that. I’ve not been well for several days but it might be long covid.”

(So I’m guessing the revolution won’t be happening this weekend then?)

*Note typo. I’m guessing that one sign of covid is mistyping as the sufferer experiences spasms of terror whilst coughing on the keyboard.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 12:19 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Long covid is not the only thing. They have added long vaxx to the list. One problem arrive seldom alone.

judith
judith
Jul 15, 2023 12:23 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Oh for a Long Goodbye.

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Jul 16, 2023 1:28 AM
Reply to  George Mc

That’s the new wsws. Garbage. The old wsws was a superb site. (Carolyn’s always been lame.)

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 16, 2023 7:35 AM
Reply to  Nick Baam

I am proud to announce that the WSWS have banned me. When the covid shit started up and this Trotter site started shilling for the bug even more psychopathically than the mainstream and I queried this, I was addressed for the first time ever by one of their administrators eager to explain that the bug was definitely real etc. Knowing how censorious they were about comments I occasionally inserted small ironic ones. But I reckon I went too far when I put in one about the dilemma of protesting whilst “keeping safe”. I suggested you take along your bed so you could hide under it and protest at the same time. Next time I tried to post I was told I was banned. I consider that an achievement!

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Jul 16, 2023 5:55 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You’re in good company. Er, me.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 14, 2023 10:10 PM

Not only will we be made totally transparent in all our actions, expressions and, as they predict, our thoughts (well, those with the nano-tech capabilities injected into their bodies) but the bar will be raised willy-nilly to turn anyone into “criminals” because everything but total obedience will be termed so.

At that point it will be time to get off the hamster wheel. Life is not worth living if or when that scenario has been made into reality.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 14, 2023 9:57 PM

The danger is to shrug and say, “Well so what? I’m not a threat to them. Sure, I express views they probably detest but I can still get away with that.” The surveillance state doesn’t really care about a million malcontents blasting off on the net. They don’t even care if the entire population of the UK are engaged in axe grinding and braggadocio. What they are watching out for is organised dissent. What they are watching out for is the gathering of groups which I reckon will be impossible once this national/global goldfish bowl is set up. And even individually, they can be set for specific targets. Someone may be gaining a bit too much attention. Or perhaps the watchers will occasionally pick out someone for a little “example”, a demonstration that says, “Don’t fuck with us or else this could be you!” It would be easy to do –… Read more »

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jul 14, 2023 10:58 PM
Reply to  George Mc

There is only one way organised dissent will happen.

You, everyday, distract from this.

That is telling the residents where they live !

You know this.

Really

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 14, 2023 9:35 PM

We’re scared, aint you boys scared?

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jul 14, 2023 9:52 PM

Didn’t even read it and scared, yeah man, where are we ? Do you know ?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 15, 2023 12:24 AM

Its not that bad, it could be worse.

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 15, 2023 1:04 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

We’ve got it easy right now, so take it easy.

I dont believe the bad stuff is going to happen for quite a while, but then again, no time like the present to be introduced to preparation day, its a long time for you all’s, but a short time for me.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 2:42 AM

Yeah, you take it real easy there fella. Nothing to worry about at all…(eye roll)

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 15, 2023 11:59 AM
Reply to  Scoopais

For most people there is plenty to worry about, being able to do all trades so you know they are done right, leaves one with less to worry about.

Having that one eye roll of a job meant to pay for everything, those days are long gone buddy.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 2:40 AM

YAWN…!

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 15, 2023 12:01 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

Dont fall asleep, you could miss something there pal, i’ll do some driving

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 15, 2023 11:05 PM

You could not get there in a self-driving autonomous vehicle….