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Serf’s Up

Sylvia Shawcross

Are we returning to the Feudal model?

Well its enough to drive you around the bend and put bubbles in your veins trying to understand the world as it is unfolding. Watching Mattias Desmet being interviewed here, I remember a criticism of his theory being that he attributes everything bad happening right now to the psychology of the masses and in effect I’m sure inadvertently ends up giving the blame to the people.

This criticism I believe came from CJ Hopkins and it is a valid argument.

Now Desmet warns that it is important for those who did not fall for the psychological games of Mass Psychosis with Covid not to fall for a second one…ie. blaming everything on an elite e.g. That, he guarantees is not the solution and is just more psychological trickery.

And I’m afraid I’m going with Hopkins on this one.

The people did not create the situations that caused them to react the way that they have. That was mostly orchestrated. The WEF website and all their stated goals are there for all to read. The truth about the vaccine at best not working and at worst damaging people has come out. The things being done in the name of carbon emissions is long and terrifying. The destruction of american/western culture is happening quickly. The new cultural inculcation and the rewriting of history is well under way. The relentless alienation provided by technology continues its rampage.

This is not psychology but tangible manufactured reality.

Now I was arguing with someone about the coming totalitarianism and socialism and communism when they, being far brighter than I am, pointed out that it is not any of these things. It is feudalism.

Did we think that thems with the money and power were actually going to give it all up when they finally pretend to save the world? Of course not. Did we think they would give up their jets and manors and caviar? Of course not. So eliminating the middle class and creating a government dependant slave class, well… we’re all going to be ploughing fields with our bony starvation fingers and fighting robots for the privilege. One day. Because they’ve cut our quotas of cricket caviar down.

We won’t be ranting about pronouns when we’re all called comrade or “hey you serf.” At least there will be that.

But I will take it one step further. If the solutions to the world problems are global in nature as they are repeatedly telling us rather than “community-oriented,” then instead of grassroots from the bottom up change, we’ll be needing top down change.

So from now on all members of the WEF must take public transportation. A meme came out recently stating that New Zealand’s new prime minister Chris Hipkin’s backup Air Force plane had the same emissions as driving three Ford Rangers to the moon. (That’s one leader of many so inclined.)

And we will be expecting them to be eating crickets only at their meetings. As well, those meetings must be held without air-conditioning in hot countries and solar/windmill provided heat in cold countries. They will dress only in plastic recycled clothes. And no high-end prostitutes… let them troll the streets like the rest of them.

They must set the example. If they do, maybe we’ll all do a nice happy little mass psychosis with them and they’ll be happy. Particularly when they give everything away and own nothing to do so.

But never mind all that.

The important thing is that the stage of absolute demoralization is in the works. Don’t go there. That’s what they want. And don’t do anything that makes you less than human. You are not a number. Next week we may discuss something utterly irrelevant just for a change. Perhaps the cost and carbon footprint of cricket feces disposal or why no one is in their right mind anymore and whether this is a good or bad thing.

Your earworm for the week:

Sylvia Shawcross lives in Canada. Visit her substack.

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Seth the Great
Seth the Great
Jul 24, 2023 12:58 AM

Great article. The serf reference is a good one…it seems that is a more descriptive term for what the puppet masters are planning for all of us…

Seth the Great
Seth the Great
Jul 24, 2023 12:52 AM

Great article. I love the reference to serfdom. It is probably a much more accurate description of what “they” are trying to create with the masses.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 23, 2023 5:29 PM

A gotta laugh at the “elite” meme. Take a good look at videos and/or photos of these “elite”. The majority of them are flabby, pockmarked, eye-bagged, sickly gaggles of decrepit men and ladies. Most couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. A good swat with a crowbar or machete would bring them down in seconds. Let’s cringe and cower before their majesty. Who’s zoomin’ who?

turesankara
turesankara
Jul 23, 2023 1:31 AM

Marcus Garvey: “We are going to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery, for though others may free the body, none but ourselves can free the mind.” Emma Goldman: The only difference is that you are hired slaves instead of black slaves. Charles Bukowski: Slavery was never abolished it was only extended to include all the colours. Henry David Thoreau: It is hard to have a Southern overseer. It is worse to have a Northern one. But worst of all when you are the slave driver of yourself. Frédéric Bastiat: Slavery, protection, and monopoly, find defenders not only in those who profit by them, but in those who suffer by them. Frederick Douglas: Experience demonstrates that there may be a slavery of wages only a little less galling and crushing in its effects than chattel slavery, and that this slavery of wages must go down with the other. “This or that? The… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2023 2:10 AM
Reply to  turesankara

Marx was an ardent supporter of slavery in 1847.

iskratov
iskratov
Jul 23, 2023 9:56 PM

don’t talk nonsense!

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 23, 2023 11:02 PM
Reply to  iskratov

There is something to what he says, it’s all over the Internet of course, but the interpretation “ardent supporter” is simplistic and not true. I already replied to this accusation months ago in detail but received no answer.

I’ve given up.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2023 5:54 AM
Reply to  turesankara

Slavery got phased out only because serfdom (wage slavery) was less expensive more profitable. The employees had to pay for food and maybe lodging. No wages when they were sick. If they managed break out of the religious programming and find better options, hunting down and lynching them was outsourced to so-called lawless groups.

The shining light on the hill indeed.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 23, 2023 1:03 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Slavery was phased out because escapees were more expensive than new, untrained slaves – thus a permanent financial drain, according to Catherine Austin Fitts.

Klaus Schlobb’s chip under the skin would eliminate the loss from escapees, thus making slavery once again profitable.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jul 23, 2023 6:03 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Along the same line, slavery naturally reached the point of exhaustion with industrialisation. Cotton and tobacco production of the Southern States started being challenged by that of India, Brazil, Egypt, etc. They had to lower prices and thus costs.

Through the use of machinery, capitalists made the most out of an abomination: child labour. In France, a child at a cotton spinning machine, was able to deliver the *same* productivity as an adult but was paid *fourth* the usual rate.

As we would say today, slavery was no longer sustainable.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 9:09 PM

“Isn’t it amazing how the deaths of animals can be used to promote two different fictional narratives at the same time?”

https://twitter.com/ViroLIEgy/status/1681280962838114304/photo/1

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 10:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It was Corona virus, and this time its the truth with logo …and also reason. Therefore its a fact, and not fake news.

StStephen
StStephen
Jul 22, 2023 7:29 PM

Yet Desmet in the interview to which you include a link speaks of “a pact between an elite and the masses”. And isn’t that just what we’re experiencing? It’s not the members of the elite who dance naked in the streets with breasts and penises hanging from the same bodies. Nor are they necessarily elite members whom you supposed to be your friends until you realized they’d be happier seeing you thrown into a concentration camp for the unvaccinated (the actual members of elites, on the other hand, tend to stick together). You write as if (or wish) that all of us were innocent except for the few pulling the strings. But its obvious that the majority of the population practically everywhere both during and since “COVID”, in psychic epidemic after psychic epidemic (Ukraine, Woke, Trans, Climate…), consent, whether induced or not, through willful ignorance and/or lack of will, spellbound… Read more »

Ron Marr
Ron Marr
Jul 30, 2023 5:37 PM
Reply to  StStephen

Thank you, for your comment. I really enjoy Shawcross and Hopkins writings, but have to disagree with their criticism of Desmet’s latest book..

Jan
Jan
Jul 22, 2023 7:06 PM

Victimhood is a disempowering ideology. People might have been targetted but they went along with it. They had agency and participated in terrorism. Nobody can really claim they were entirely innocent. Children I suppose but for adults even we in the opposition movement had our faults. We could claim to be on top. We were. We are or atleast some of us are. It is thus important to improve. To live up to the high standards one would expect of an elite. To set a good example for others to follow. We need to be more regal.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 10:15 PM
Reply to  Jan

Thats why we (some of us) confess our sins. Only by recognizing our sins and regret we can become more intelligent

Corarden
Corarden
Jul 22, 2023 5:02 PM

‘Mass Formation’ always appeared to me to be a truly bad translation into english and I’ve never understood why anybody every listened to this total penis and his banal psychobabble bollocks…and now I know why…because on top of being a complete bore, he’s also working to deflect the blame the from the goddamn criminal murderous scum of the earth.

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 4:58 PM

The would-be Lords of the Manor never stop trying to find ways to enserf the rest of us. This sounds truly creepy and scary (as well as helping explain the real reason for geoengineering). But – cynic that I am – I doubt they will actually get this one “off the ground” (if you’ll pardon the pun).

Control The Human Brain, Control the World – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 22, 2023 5:55 PM
Reply to  Howard

But are they trying to recreate what has yet to be created?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 10:18 PM
Reply to  Howard

Control rice and you have the universe in your hollow hand. Its THAT simple!

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 4:46 PM

I apologise in advance for the length of this comment. But the more I read into it, the more fucking terrifying it seemed. We are talking Dr Strangelove here. We are talking utterly barking mad Nazi re-formation of the entire cosmos!   I was wondering how Nafeez Ahmed was getting on these days. He was the original poster boy for “The 9/11 Truth movement”, being the first on the scene with his War On Freedom and seemed to be the guy you’d most trust to investigate this crucial psyop false flag. That was before he started to make curiously retrograde noises poo-poohing “conspiracies”, revealing (and with pride) his gargantuan connections with the military-intelligence network, and ferociously shilling it up for covid.   Well here he is:   https://ageoftransformation.org/energyphasetransition/   Note how we are in the realm of the corporate power point presentation with corresponding obfuscatory language of the sort that… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 5:13 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Most importantly, the new technology does not represent a simple one-for-one substitution. It represents a ‘phase transition’ within that sector which changes the very rules and properties of the system, and how it works.

How very prescient of Mr. Ahmed to pinpoint “that sector which changes the very rules and properties of the system.” We all know what that sector is: it is the Military. So any “transitions” will necessarily benefit the Military and their paymasters – and no one else.

Mr. Ahmed has inadvertently laid it all bare right before us.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 8:53 PM
Reply to  George Mc

https://ageoftransformation.org/about/

Ahmed’s info page. Quite the revelation from the apparently first to arrive at the 9/11 skeptic scene. Here he gives us transhumanism in a nutshell. And look at his (proudly displayed) credentials and connections. The insider’s insider.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Just remember everything is seen from a financial economic wall street standpoint.
Then we can keep our lingua straight.

Energy transformation is economy transformation, clima change is financial change, green wave is dollar wave.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 23, 2023 12:32 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Ahmed has found his niche George: The arse crack of the plutocracy.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 3:40 PM

Remember the footage of WTC 7 still standing behind Jane Standley whilst she told us of its collapse. How about this?:

https://twitter.com/dandaman4us/status/1682013606030856192/photo/1

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 23, 2023 7:45 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Its a test, to divide people into who are awake and who believe.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 3:29 PM

https://archive.is/2023.07.20-073433/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/briefing/covid.html “A Positive Covid Milestone …. The United States has reached a milestone in the long struggle against Covid: The total number of Americans dying each day — from any cause — is no longer historically abnormal. Excess deaths, as this number is known, has been an important measure of Covid’s true toll because it does not depend on the murky attribution of deaths to a specific cause.” The “murky attributions” of deaths to a specific cause? Could this possibly be an admission that perhaps – just perhaps – some of those covid attributed deaths were “murky” i.e. possibly not covid deaths? No matter – we now breathe the fresh air of “excess deaths” where we need not trouble about “murky” attributions – an ironic statement since our media boys (in this case, one David Leonhardt) here are clearly implying that these excess deaths were indeed due to covid. But… Read more »

Jan
Jan
Jul 22, 2023 5:59 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Excess deaths has been used to help work out the true scale of damage caused by restrictons, ‘covid’ treatments etc. The NYtimes is seeking to define their own function within their narrative when in reality they avoided discussion of excess deaths. As I understand it excess deaths are an anomaly from the baseline. The baseline is a 5 year average. Therefore after more than 3 years the baseline is more than three fifths during the terror campaign. It has moved up and is excessive compared to the old baseline. Therefore the excess only needs to drop less than 2 fifths of the old baseline to become zero. Easy enough in the summer when it would normally be expected to drop below the baseline. On top of that if there has been 3 years of excess then you would need 3 years of below average to balance it out. Like a… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 23, 2023 7:50 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The next positive article will be about the figures from the vaxx.
The SADS and adverse affects from the vaxx are now also all normal, all positive news.

In reality the Covid scam was a good experience for humanity.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 2:50 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66277027

Tom Jones’s Delilah banned from choirs. It incites violence against women. And not a moment too soon. Every time I hear Chuck Berry’s My Ding-a-ling, I have to whip my todger out. Every time I hear Mack the Knife I slaughter at least six people. Just think what “Save your kisses for me/Even though you’re only three” could do to the population!

Elongated Muskrat
Elongated Muskrat
Jul 22, 2023 2:12 PM

Ten Years After… good one.

Matt Black
Matt Black
Jul 22, 2023 10:14 AM

Its the black-grey opus dei Venetians Radhanite freemason Jesuit Vatican Knights of Malta Sufi scientological lizzards I tell yer

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 11:07 AM
Reply to  Matt Black

Just p$ycho$ in $uit$ Matt.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 9:39 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66259223

Advice on how to handle a dead baby situation. What are they telling us?

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 10:09 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Prepping the Proles and fanning the flames of fear.

Matt Black
Matt Black
Jul 22, 2023 11:10 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You do find em George

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 2:44 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

It’s easy to do. It’s on the BBC’s mainpage and indeed almost at the top. Pretty hard to miss.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 9:35 AM

You’d think the easily debunked climate scream would have acquired at least an embarrassing hesitation. No chance: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66229065 “Climate records tumble, leaving Earth in uncharted territory – scientists” And I note that when you copy/paste the text into Notepad, it leaves out the pictures but includes a descriptive line. In this case: “Graphic showing a person facing a hot sun and a line chart trending upwards” Indeed. Look at that picture: Arm stretched as if attempting to ward off the arrival of God on doomsday with that jagged line soaring upwards. “A series of climate records on temperature, ocean heat, and Antarctic sea ice have alarmed some scientists who say their speed and timing is “unprecedented”.” A glance down shows that the graphics department have really shot their load this time. Not only scary graphs but BIG scary graphs. “Dangerous heatwaves” – however ,“It is hard to immediately link these… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 9:43 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Actually the witch doctor wouldn’t be so blatant as to say, “Oh we meant 40 years”. He would say something like,

“Ah well according to our transmigrational current calculating overhemispherical model, the ultra bifunctionals weren’t properly aligned to the sunspot perambulator. So our factorial humuforms were out by a factor of 37%. And as you can see from the 786 charts and graphs below ……”

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 10:00 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You are a wicked lad George :-}

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 2:27 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Well I’ve had no complaints Hyuk Hyuk. (Disengage Sid James mode.)

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 1:16 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It may not be quite as easily debunked as you imagine. All the “debunking” I’ve encountered could easily fit into a nice Fact Check thimble.

There are, however, a few excellent pieces debunking the “Let’s blame it all on CO2” thesis. Here’s one. It’s very long, and focuses primarily on geoengineering. But it’s about as close to a first class “debunking” as I’ve encountered.

Climate Disruption: It’s Not Due to CO2 – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

Duckman
Duckman
Jul 22, 2023 2:24 PM
Reply to  Howard

the climate hoax depends upon some actual changes occuring, fore knowledge of the changes, what they are and how they might manifest has allowed those in positions of power and control (the ones we dont see as opposed to their minnions we do) to manipulate the hugely diverse organism that is humanity. an addition before i hit “post” is that there is a whopper of an “event” coming and i aint talking big kahuna burgers either extrapolating what is truth and what is fiction re the world/realm we inhabit is another crucial part of the battle we are engaged in most (here) now accept that the bulk of what most of us believed about black magick, sorcery, poisoning, sorry i mean pharmacueticals has changed radicaly, to the degree that i wouldnt let the fuckers within 10 feet of me now, let alone “treat” me moving on from this some very… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 22, 2023 2:36 PM
Reply to  Howard

“Fact Check thimble”? Ugh! When I say debunked I was referring specifically to a report on the Highest Ever Most Unendurable Temperature for Phoenix Arizona of 118! ….. umm apart from that time when it was 126, but let’s not mention that! …. and what do you know! I just did another search to find that result and it was gone! Or rather – it was shuffled a bit further back, Indeed there seems to have been a bit of a reshuffle all around with the latest Scariest Temp Ever here: “Wednesday was the hottest day on record in Phoenix, hotter even than the day in 1990 when planes stopped landing and taking off at the airport as the temperature set an all-time record of 122 degrees. In the time between Wednesday morning’s low of 97 and the afternoon high of 119, people went to work, indoors and out.” BUT… Read more »

Anti-Hip
Anti-Hip
Jul 22, 2023 2:50 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Um, Phoenix record high vs. that of the entire state of Arizona

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 3:25 PM
Reply to  George Mc

These high pressure domes are created using Ionosphere Heaters. And once created, these domes can last for months at a time before it’s necessary to create another one.

Underneath the domes, the temperatures can rise to very high. It’s a scam pure and simple – but the temperatures recorded are very real.

Soon it won’t work any longer as more people finally start to accept that climate engineering has been going on for decades.

It’s interesting to note that plant stomatas shut down at temperatures above 104 F. Wonder how much of this heating is to destroy crop production?

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 22, 2023 9:00 AM

Magellan

I wrote a post which had a reference to the fellow that first circumnavigated the Earth. The name I think was Ferdinand Magellan. I saw a statue of him in Punta Arenhas in Southern Chile in 2017.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 7:35 AM

Humanity (the active part) consists of ~3-4bn people working now — but not on their own. Human activity cannot produce the thing we call ‘humanity.’ We augment ‘humanity’ with oil dependency that augments human labour by multiple orders of magnitude. In effect, we do 800 million years of work a day — what the fuck for? Nobody is to ‘blame.’ The series of choices that led to this gargantuan effort were taken across millennia — at least 2.5Ky if we are claiming Greco-Roman heritage. All this daily bickering and blaming is itself psychotic: the psychological effort put in would be better invested in understanding why we think we need such an astronomic and expanding power consumption to enjoy our ‘freedoms’ and ‘happiness’ — ‘cos it sure as hell does not come across that anybody is actually enjoying the absolute peak of our power to act. All the conditions for this… Read more »

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 8:31 AM
Reply to  Bryan

The funny part of seeking an entity to blame is that in doing so, the blame-seekers, who foolishly consider themselves champions of freedom, implicitly acknowledge that them the people are powerless creatures in need of an authority to shepherd them – they only bitch about the shepherd not being a good one, but a malevolent asshole.

Probably the result of religious upbringing and the benevolent God leading them on their way through life.

Anti-Hip
Anti-Hip
Jul 22, 2023 3:28 PM
Reply to  Zorgling

“[those] who foolishly consider themselves champions of freedom, implicitly acknowledge that them the people are powerless creatures in need of an authority to shepherd them”

Exactly. And so all that’s ever needed to cement a power structure is holy men/women reading tea leaves.

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jul 22, 2023 8:37 AM
Reply to  Bryan

Hi Bryan.

You claimed in a recent comment that there’s something like 8 years of human labour equivalent in a barrel of oil, and above that we do 800 million years worth of work a day.

I find this fascinating. Could you show us your working out or provide a reference?

Cheers

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 11:28 AM
Reply to  Mark EL

My car takes between five something to eight or nine liters if gas to travel 100 kilometers depending on whether I drive 100 or 200 clicks per hour. The car weighs about one and a half tons. Imagine dragging the fucking thing yourself, pushing it up every hill. Ditto everything else.

You get the picture.

But the problem is that you can’t even equate human labor with work done thanks to carbon fuels because if you use human labor, people would simply not be able to do all the just-in-time tasks, produce food for themselves, and a bunch of other things.

The way the world is organized is totally dependent on energy. Cheap energy that is (cheap in the sense of low energy cost of energy extraction).

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 1:49 PM
Reply to  Zorgling

My point exactly. In the video above it takes 180 “Roberts” (that’s the cyclist) to power a car and 43,000 to power a plane; but a million cyclists could never actually power a plane.

We’ve got to start thinking about what a human powered future might look like and stop assuming that oil dependent economics is going to last indefinitely.

I wonder how many ‘Roberts’ the inane internet blame game consumes?

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 2:11 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Robert is below now!

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 3:35 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Around here where I live, there are massive investments being made into infrastructure, mostly roads, highways. Also railways.

Railways are good, but highways? What the fuck for?

All things considered, even if there was enough oil for quite a while yet, I’d be thinking about harnessing other forms of energy. Electricity, even though it’s not an energy per se, just medium, is the best we have. Hydrogen might be another option. Not sure how the ECoE works out. Then there is gravitation.

Anyways, if it were up to me, I would be building pumped storage hydro facilities.

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 3:36 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Around here where I live, there are massive investments being made into infrastructure, mostly roads, highways. Also railways.

Railways are good, but highways? What the fuck for?

All things considered, even if there was enough oil for quite a while yet, I’d be thinking about harnessing other forms of energy. Electricity, even though it’s not an energy per se, just medium, is the best we have. Hydrogen might be another option. Not sure how the ECoE works out. Then there is gravitation.

Anyways, if it were up to me, I would be building pumped storage hydro facilities.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 6:08 PM
Reply to  Zorgling

There are so many options to vast centralised power consumption we could have made the same amount of FFs last indefinitely. As a builder, my major bugbear is centralised power production to heat drafty housing stock — what a fucking waste. We have been able to build houses that need no space heating, but they are costlier to build, thus less profitable…. and don’t think that designed obsolescence doesn’t apply to housing.

Everyone agrees hydrogen is a net energy sink; but it looks like we are gonna do it anyway. Anyway, most folk wouldn’t be nearly as troubled as they might think if we stepped down energy consumption. Not nearly as much as if we go peddle to metal and crash.

How’s your leg development going!

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 23, 2023 7:46 AM
Reply to  Bryan

Re: Hydrogen.

There was a plan to build large solar farms in Ukraine and use thus generated electricity to produce hydrogen and blend it with natural gas transmitted to Europe, in incrementally increasing concentrations. The main challenge was apparently the much smaller size of the hydrogen molecule vis-a-vis the methane molecule, which would necessitate tighter fittings.

They’ve scrapped the plan for now AFAIK.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:18 PM
Reply to  Zorgling

Highways are for your Harley Davidson. Any problem with that?

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 23, 2023 7:40 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

No. I enjoy driving my vehicle like the next bloke.

Just expressing a though of general nature.

SKZX
SKZX
Jul 26, 2023 8:02 AM
Reply to  Bryan

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mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2023 6:16 AM
Reply to  Zorgling

There are quite a few ways to reduce fuel consumption and expense. This begins with going through the specific manual for the car.

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 23, 2023 7:51 AM
Reply to  mgeo

My cars are 25 years old. No manual. I start up the thing, floor the gas pedal and go! The mighty 1.8 Turbo engine does the rest.

Yippee yay yay!

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 1:23 PM
Reply to  Mark EL

If indeed we can get “8 years of human labor” out of a single barrel of oil; and if there are 100 million barrels of oil used each day (as per figures I’ve heard); then it would follow that we get 800 million years worth of human labor every day.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 2:09 PM
Reply to  Howard

101.89 million barrels a day (predicted) for 2023. The figures are such magnitude that slight discrepancies do not matter. The scale is much greater than all the humans who ever lived could produce (which another example of mine.) They say we’ve got 47 years left, but the distribution curve (the infamous Hubbert curve) is going to tail off at 6-7% per annum. As we furiously turn gas into ‘oil’ that will run down quicker too. If you want to do the deepdive Art Berman, Nate Hagens and the old Oil Drum crew are still about.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 1:39 PM
Reply to  Mark EL

1 barrel of oil = 5.8m BTU or ~1700 kWh; single labourer ~75 W per hour; 75W for 8hrs = 0.6 kWh; 1700 / 0.6 = 2834 days; 2834 / 365 = 7.77 years.

From my notes, but its quite a common calculation. Depending on assumptions: different variations range from 5-11 years — it also depends on the type of work; office work probably would yield 11 years at basal metabolic rate.

@ $70 per barrel: that’s $8.75 a year, which is the sort of money we can expect to be earning in the future!

If you really want a laugh, watch an Olympic cyclist v 700W toaster to see what it takes to produce 0.0021kWh. We’re all gonna need 74cm thighs if we don’t all want to power down to lower levels.

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jul 23, 2023 8:19 AM
Reply to  Bryan

Thanks for the explanation Bryan.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 22, 2023 4:54 AM

Sentimentality There is on some articles here a tendency to sentimentalise the oil industry and the other industries that sprung up around it. This implies that oil and automobiles and plastics are part of an admirable way of life. The fact is that it was the Rockefellers that made oil big business. This family has at times rivalled the other R family in it’s power and it’s ability to shape society and culture. The sad fact is that the bankers are immensely powerful but lack the ability to steer societies in the right direction. Their disciple Columbus blundered into the Americas. This discovery led to the knowledge that we lived on a finite sphere. In Punto Arenhas in Chile there is a statue of the fellow who first circumnavigated the globe. His name escapes my memory. What have the banksters been thinking over the last couple of centuries ? Did… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 22, 2023 4:28 AM

Culture I’ll grant the pun in the title is amusing. However the article is simplistic and ignores the historical background. Too much emphasis on intermediaries like the WEF and none on the banksters that rule the world. There is a mention of the destruction of Western “culture”. The term suggests the existing culture has grass roots beginnings and that the population in general had a say in shaping it. This is incorrect. The stem around whic a culture develops is religion. Note that Westerners do not look up to Apollo or Zeus or Thor but to a monotheist God the came out of Palestine and which was forced on the population by Roman emperors Constantine and Theodosius among others. The Slavs only coverted about a thousand years ago and the Danes if I recall only gave in about that time. Likewise with modern culture. Hollyweird has a monopoly on cinema… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2023 5:28 AM

The cosmopolitan ultra-wealthy, and the slaves at the bottom of the pyramid, have no time for religion. The former do dabble in culture for investment and to socialise.

Minstrel Peasant
Minstrel Peasant
Jul 22, 2023 6:30 AM

The stem around whic a culture develops is religion. Why would a culture have to develop around a religion? What’s with this obsession with religion, the need for a higher power, an authority to worship, to be governed thereby, to perceive the world through the lens thereof? Religion, or ideology, is a filter between a person and reality, which distorts the perception thereof. Grow some balls and live your life you see fit, without the need for guidance from some alleged god. Also, note that religion is based on pure belief, that is no rational substantiation, which makes it an ideal vehicle for hijacking it and fucking you over. Much more easily than through ideology let alone science, as per convid, because both of these are based on reasoning, as fallacious or erroneous it might at times be. No single -ism is a liberating force. Perhaps some multi-systemism would be.… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 22, 2023 1:06 PM

Most Westerners have first names that came out of the bible. Most are baptised in Church. The catholic church runs a sizeable portion of the school system in Australia and presumably many other countries. The pope blessed the clot shot and ordered his employees to submit to it on pain of dismissal. Religion is gradually being phased out but it played an enormous and central role in shaping the Western way of life.

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 2:45 PM

I acknowledge that. I was expressing a general thought.

Religion is a vehicle for control. Standardizing what goes on in the human mind. Making people behave in desired ways. Propped by the carrot of Heaven and stick of Hell.

How would human society be were people’s heads not fucked up by religion? Good question. And in this regard, even complete atheists – such as me – are affected by religion, namely the Christian tradition that constitutes the basis of values, thinking patterns, everything.

What we’re seeing with covid, climate, and the other usual suspects is an effort to foist a new ‘religion’ (scientifism) on humankind to bring them under control, since everybody but the most indoctrinated understand that the God/Devil combo is a crock of shit.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2023 6:31 AM

To keep up with other religions, the Catholic Church also provides blessings for vehicles.

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 1:32 PM

The expression “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink” comes to mind vis-a-vis Western culture being a top-down enterprise.

You can try to foist a “culture” on a population. But you cannot force them to accept it. If you doubt that, just look at America’s consistent anti-intellectualism (to name just one example of Western culture). They keep trying to make Americans intellectually savvy; and they keep failing.

No one – and I mean NO ONE – is going to ever tell good ‘ol boys to stop chewing tobacco and start thinking. Banksters included.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jul 22, 2023 6:10 PM
Reply to  Howard

Who in America is attempting to force intellectualism on the population? Fake intellectualism, that I will grant you, but our owners have spent generations dumbing down the population, not making it smarter. As for the tobacco chewing “good old boys” being the problem, that too is learned behavior Howard, it is not innate. The banksters will most certainly tell the good old boys to stop dipping chaw when it suits their agenda. For now, they have no problem with that or any of the other dumbed down behaviors they’ve trained Americans, and the rest of the globe as well, to participate in. They trained the population to mindlessly consume, now they want to train it to consume, but in a different way while blaming that trained herd for not changing their consumptive behavior fast enough. As for the good old boys being the only dumb population, I think you know… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2023 2:19 AM
Reply to  Howard

Tobacco was restricted to the Americas until Columbus. It is a global addiction today.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2023 7:09 AM

Until capitalism entered the scene, peoples using tobacco, coca and even some forms of opium were managing these substances quite well, even as necessities.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jul 23, 2023 3:53 PM
Reply to  Howard

They keep trying to make Americans intellectually savvy; and they keep failing.

Who is “they”? Have you ever once stepped inside of a public school over the past half century? Trying to make the average person into a “savvy” intellectual is the last thing schools are designed for. One wonders what world you are living in — neither the school system nor the bulk of what the mass media produces is even the slightest bit concerned with trying to develop intellectualism in the masses, nor have they been as long as I’ve been alive. Exactly the opposite is true: most kids in school are quickly segregated, tracked and streamed into a low-ceilinged life path of obeying orders without questioning or thinking for oneself (i.e. Ivan Illich had it right).

Howard
Howard
Jul 24, 2023 4:01 PM
Reply to  Invisible Man

And yet in every school there were “nerds” (who were mostly reviled); and “jocks” (who were mostly adored).

Someone studying and seeking insight into the real world never rated as high or earned as much as someone who could hurl a slab of pigskin.

When more people watch, say, a Shakespeare play on PBS than a Super Bowl Game, I’ll gladly renounce everything I’ve ever uttered since I was born.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jul 24, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  Howard

You don’t have to tell me about the plight of “nerds” in school: I was one of them, I know all about how unpleasant that time of life is. And yet, “jocks” were not necessarily placed on a pedestal just because “nerds” weren’t. It was never that neat and schematic outside of bad, clichéd Hollywood movies. And today, I have far more anger at the system, and the pettily tyrannical defenders of the system, the various sick teachers and administrators and politicians who were far too lacking in self-awareness to be entrusted with the education of the young, than I do for any hypothetical jock. I was one of the nerdy kids, and like every other nerd I know, a good 99 percent at least of what I know I had to teach myself — when I try to recall what I ever learned in class I draw a blank.… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 2:07 AM

Western way of thinking is narcissistic. Our self.
But both philosophers, basic gramma and Christ teach us to be self neutral, to serve our next, to obtain the purpose with our life.

Thus there is no one personal guilty, neither the sheeple, the Elite, or government other than for ourselves, but ideology.
The ideology is wrong. The systems are the sick and contrary. People are infested with ideology and systems.

The Russians says, ideology (nasism, fascism) is a decease who needs to be cured.
Yuri Bezmenov says ideological subversion is a virus and irreversible when you have been infected by it.
Confucius says manipulated language makes your actions futile.

Thus we are fighting against ourselves when we adapt us to any human created system say ideology, and not to the way our nature and universe function.

Rolf Brandt
Rolf Brandt
Jul 22, 2023 12:26 AM

Congratulations Sylvia,
In one fell swoop you cover ‘them’ and us with all our various views and complaints.
Also, your language is absolutely fantastic – I enjoy reading every single one of your articles (example: changing just one letter – “Serf’s up” to “Surf’s up” -ingenious).
Finally compliments to your readers and their sophisticated comments. They contribute a lot to your story, eg referrals to ‘Alice in Wonderland’, or “Is reading Offguardian every day a form of self-medication, or a cause of your nightmares ?”
Thank you Sylvia

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 22, 2023 1:04 AM
Reply to  Rolf Brandt

Feel free to contribute your own ideas too. We all have something non-synthetic to offer to the crowd… 🙂 

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 22, 2023 12:42 PM
Reply to  Rolf Brandt

THank you for your kind words Rolf

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jul 21, 2023 11:54 PM

Alvin Lee realized in the 1960s that overpopulation was the looming disaster humanity would soon face the song was released in 1971 . The population bomb has now exploded and a global collapse appears to be in progress . The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse have saddled up and have begun what may be their final ride?

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 7:21 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

You need to qualify the population predicament. It’s not so much an issue of the actual number of earthlings as the fact that the socioeconomic model is unable to provide them with the kind of luxury they aspire to. Everything hinges on energy. The way things work is that not only current energy use keeps growing, but also energy is needed to honor debt, which is none other than energy use shifted to the future. In other words, in order to sustain the current way of life and to grow, way more energy would be needed, but extractability is becoming more difficult. The logic is simple – a) you reduce population and/or b) you reduce living standard and/or c) you find different sources of energy. Option c) would be the best solution, but there simply is no source of energy with the same energy density. Which means that some combination… Read more »

Binra
Binra
Jul 21, 2023 10:08 PM

The descent into blame is really the revealing of the underlying ‘world disorder’. Dumping guilt to mitigate unowned or unfaced pain. We use guilt to manipulate self and others – praise and blame. Boom and bust. Self-inflation and addictive dependency. The current framing of ‘humans’ as physically determined and hackable machine-animals is itself a guilting denial of love by which gaslight can project its Big Screen – that is notable for its joyless and hollow parody of life – but for ‘joy’ taken in vengeance, ‘joining’ in hate against the hate target. But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.” “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice. “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here. ~ Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland Unless we recognise our own… Read more »

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 21, 2023 10:55 PM
Reply to  Binra

It may help to cite sources. Which book(s) are the extracts/citations actually from?

Not to reduce any of life’s great mysteries unnecessarily, but it does, at least, contribute to a more honest discussion and also helps to avoid any misguided charges of ‘incoherent psychobabble’ as some ignorant serfs might suggest…

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 22, 2023 1:38 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

I guessing Gabor Mate. The reference to Hungary Ghosts is also a Buddhist references. Could be Jung hmm

les online
les online
Jul 21, 2023 11:25 PM
Reply to  Binra

Is reading Offguardian every day a form of self-medication, or a cause of your nightmares ?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 21, 2023 11:33 PM
Reply to  les online

Nightmares clearly. Self-medications don’t bring in the rubles…

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jul 21, 2023 11:29 PM
Reply to  Binra

self evident nostalgia reveals imminent financial pain i hope i will be okay or something like that, words, is that how..to..be…

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 22, 2023 12:02 AM

Opt for the spherical earth model and you’ll be fine  🙂 

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 21, 2023 8:33 PM

Crucial moment for pandemic back burners:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/07/21/buih-j21.html

“Two Australian schoolgirls die amid surge of flu infections

The recent deaths of two school-aged girls from influenza highlights the danger from a major surge of the virus that is currently sweeping Australia. The profit-driven removal by state and federal Labor governments of almost all public health measures to prevent the spread of COVID-19 has created the conditions for mass flu infection, in parallel with the ongoing pandemic.”

I jest of course. It’s a massively embarrassing climb down. Nobody gives a shit about The Big C19 anymore so ….

“Oh fuck it! Just bring the flu back in! Stick in photos of microbes! The public have now been conditioned to panic over pictures of microbes – any microbes! And we’ll pad the rest out with statistics, percentages, and constant repetitions of the word ‘surge’!”

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 3:59 AM
Reply to  George Mc

WSWS or Australia’s ABC. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 21, 2023 8:01 PM

Drifting OT but I very much appreciated Moneycircus’s latest on the topic of the curious resurgence of “nuke porn”. And indeed this raises a phenomenon now exceedingly familiar: the merry-go-round of “Truly Terrifying Threats We Face” each of which is curiously forgettable as it whizzes around the circuit whilst another takes centre stage: https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/crisis-update-oppenheimer-film-pulls Excerpt: “Until NATO and the Ukraine were pitted against Russia (and its allies) we had heard nothing for decades about nuclear brinkmanship. We now have an economic transformation underway, effectively the decline of liberal capitalism (see upcoming article) and, in the simplest words, the wealthy elite desperate to hold onto its wealth by any means. If you think that an exaggeration, look back just over a century: very few understood that at their apparent peak, the British and European empires were already walking dead. The answer was to reshape the world through war — which is… Read more »

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 21, 2023 6:33 PM

The divide (as described) would seem to be between postmodernism [Hopkins] and post-postmodernism [Desmet] A world of powerless serfs vs those in a hypnotic trance (or ‘Mass Psychosis’) “Postmodernism conceived of contemporary culture as a spectacle before which the individual sat powerless, and within which questions of the real were problematised. “ vs (‘post-postmodernism’ here termed ‘pseudo-modernism’) “In place of the neurosis of modernism and the narcissism of postmodernism, pseudo-modernism takes the world away, by creating a new weightless nowhere of silent autism.” The Death of Postmodernism And Beyond – Alan Kirby https://philosophynow.org/issues/58/The_Death_of_Postmodernism_And_Beyond Pseudo-modernism (or ‘Digimodernism’ in Kirby’s related book) would seem to describe the modern world of the Internet better. A world where people walk around in a hypnotic trance, permanently staring at their phones, ignoring the world around them. Serfs at least knew who their masters were, if they bumped into them on the dirt-tracks. That seems to… Read more »

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 21, 2023 8:46 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

For me it’s not the technology itself that’s the problem, but that so many of us are such good subjects for its hypnotism.

It’s a long time ago that I realized I was not a good hypnotic subject, but I never suspected how many of us are really good subjects…

I thought common sense and a general awareness of reality were born into most of us.
Then the BBC News, “Blue Peter”, youth clubs with trendy, guitar-playing priests, the Rolling Stones, Jimmy Da Vile and Margaret Thatcher arrived…

With the rise of institutionalized idiocy, art and common sense died, along with the ability to see through hypnotism.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 21, 2023 9:10 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I wouldn’t make a good hypnotic subject either. Though I did watch a stage hypnotist a couple of times in my student days.

The fellow student I went with was really into it (indeed he invited me along). He ended up on stage as one of the subjects. I was the complete polar opposite. Did everything in my power to resist being hypnotized. Crossed my legs, folded my arms etc (not that that probably made much difference in retrospect)…

But maybe that also plays into it. Some are actually very keen to hypnotized. Some are the polar opposite and resist with all their might.

Admittedly , the performance itself was pretty remarkable. Saw a guy getting ‘drunk’ on a glass of water, for example.

Apply that globally and “Houston, we have a problem”

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 21, 2023 5:35 PM

The destruction of american/western culture is happening quickly. In fact what is happening IS american/western culture- or rather, it is this culture’s latest plunge into self-destruction in an attempt to FINALLY bring about the final chapter of its narrative- which is of course Armageddon. The generational trauma caused by about 1000 years of terror, slavery and genocide is not healed by materialism and a few decades of pseudo-rationalism. The psy-op based on the Bible and associated “culture” still runs in the West, and both leaders and the people are still under its influence even if they never visit church or talk about religion. It is this same psy-op that gave birth to feudal theocracy which paved the way for feudal technocracy… but more importantly: lobotomised entire generations. Monotheism creates one-track minds which look for single causes to complex phenomena, and are disconnected from the source of all; alienation, insanity via… Read more »

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 21, 2023 7:59 PM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

Tribal God versus universal God.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 22, 2023 2:14 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

And of course there’s always individual God.

That’s what was new about Jesus’s teaching. It transcends family, duty, clan and tradition, even if it still recognizes the rightful place of those things in the normal course of events.

I take that to mean that personal access is granted to the universal God you mentioned. (Of course it’s a path, not a doctor’s prescription…)

Tribal God is for Old Testament thinking, along with modern military thinking.
Utterly obsolete, although of course there’s no need to reject all the wisdom which is also to be found in those books.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 22, 2023 6:49 PM
Reply to  wardropper

That’s largely what I was implying.

The Old Testament God quoted by RasP is the tribal god of the Hebrew people, but not the Universal (and Personal) transcendent God taught by Jesus.

I lean to a Gnostic view on this, so the former above — Yaweh — is the Demiurge, while the latter is the Monad, nameless and ineffable.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 2:20 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

Everyone with an IQ over room temperature know religion for some reason makes people more intelligent than those without.
There is a reason why all countries are filled up with churches and language filled with references to God, Allah, Buddha m.m.

Religion is a spiritual overhead with codes of ethic that makes you human. Without it, you are animal.
Conclusion, your scapegoat is close but wrong.

Matt
Matt
Jul 22, 2023 3:12 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

A woefully inept description of Christianity.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 21, 2023 5:00 PM

I believe Desmet is slow on the uptake, and too dogmatic once he comes up with a theory.
Most seriously, I don’t think he knows human individuality well enough to distinguish it effectively from ‘mass humanity’.
For him, the whole thing seems to be one abstract lump which might, or might not be separable into distinct portions, and not even necessarily useful to study.

In this case, I have to say I prefer the entertainment value of Ann Elk’s definitive theory:
https://youtu.be/cAYDiPizDIs

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 21, 2023 4:53 PM

We sure can come up with a lot of things that “are not” the solution, but can’t come up with a damn thing as a solution.

All right then, I’m going to blame the janitor at my grandkids’ school. His name is Elmer. It’s Elmer’s fault. Everything.

Jesus. Really?

They’re coming to take our homes, guns, cars, FREEDOM, you name it, and people are arguing about who’s to blame? This Desmet sounds like a supremo obfuscator. He should write another book with Curtin. I have zero interest in what he has to say.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 6:54 PM

Those that have written down and planned the future of humanity without humanity’s input deserve blame. It is far better this than contrived disparate groups of humanity divided and fighting and blaming each other.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 7:11 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Will you stop this shit already? What’s the point of blaming some alleged wrongdoers who allegedly planned the future of humanity? They’re not fucking humanity themselves? And the rest are some sheeple unable to take care of themselves? How can you be so contemptuous of people and insinuate that they’re helpless, under the control of some alleged others?

What a totally fucked up worldview! What do you think you’re gonna accomplish? Absolute shit!

Let’s hypothetically assume that there are some malevolent individuals intent of fucking others over. What good is blaming them gonna do? Stand up for your rights then, and put a foot to their ass.

I’m sick of this chickenshit, blame-game, self-pitying whining!

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 7:19 PM

Thank you for your comment

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 8:28 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Sure, stick your head deeper in the sand and keep whining.

Hopeless!

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 12:30 AM

‘Foot in ass (arse)’
Arse in jail.
End of story.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 22, 2023 9:12 PM

I appreciate you have a need to vent. Go for it. It matters not to me.

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 23, 2023 7:14 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

It matters not to me.

As if it weren’t obvious. Sheeple like you are the reason why I left Canada a while ago.

It’s not so much that your opinions are naive, it’s not so much that you’re unable to argue your point of view if faced with an opposing argument, it’s not so much that you’re unwilling to argue, it’s your arrogant implied attitude that you know better, that it’s beneath you to respond to something that doesn’t conform to your orthodoxy, that you somehow have the high moral ground. You simply shut out anybody who is not corralled in the same pen as you in the great Canadian tradition that prohibits everything but fake sheeplish niceness.

You don’t have a need to vent, eh? So why do you write? Why do you engage with commenters? You need a reassuring pat on the back?

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 23, 2023 4:58 PM
Reply to  Zorgling

Oh yes. You could very well be right.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 21, 2023 8:34 PM

“Let’s >hypothetically< assume that there are some malevolent individuals intent of fucking others over"

Which planet or alternate dimension are you visiting from?

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 9:37 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

Zorg.

There are always people intent on fucking others over. The others fuck them over back or fuck over somebody else.

Your simplistic vision of the world as you (good) against them (bad) is simply a fairy-tale illusion.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 21, 2023 9:49 PM

Is this a Zorg habit?

The sticking words in people’s mouths that they haven’t said. You approach everything with a predesignated one size fits all argument. Which you then adjust to any that have the temerity to question you or worse not see things exactly as you.

Do you realise you’ve just contradicted yourself? You are not looking for ‘Truth’ or solutions. But to ‘Win’ arguments & say fuck a lot.

Yes, Social Darwinism is a thing. ‘Our’ system has pit us against eachother for the means of survival.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 22, 2023 5:26 AM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

I guess zorglings like to win arguments just like earthlings.

If you take a step back and look at what’s been happening ever since the shit has hit the fan, there is one thread that goes through the narrative pushed and followed by the “alt” community.

Namely, it’s THEM (PTB, Schwab, Kill Gates, blah blah blah) who are doing it to us.

This is clearly bullshit. For instance, convid, whether it was instigated by a single entity or not, has been gleefully propagated by the vast majority of people at all levels. And that was a single event where the perpetrators, if applicable, could be relatively easily identified.

With societal development over centuries, you simply cannot put blame on any identifiable entity.

As if it mattered at all. Who gives a damn about blame!

People need to stop seeing themselves as victims.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 22, 2023 1:31 PM

Gotta admit, agree with that.
We’ve all been complicit though we might not have wished it.

There’s options to be less entwined in this shitshow. Up to people to take them.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2023 5:47 AM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

This guy is likely to be the former frequent commenter who claimed to be a musician in eastern Europe. He too was addicted to the 4-letter word.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 21, 2023 10:23 PM

I tend to blame both “sides”. The evil ones, and those too lazy and cowardly to think and act for themselves.

Imagine the power of we, the people, against the tiny, self-elected ‘elite’.

Matt
Matt
Jul 22, 2023 3:15 AM

There are, quite demonstrably, by their own writings and speeches, those in question writing and deciding the future for the rest of humanity, without the input of the hoi polloi. You cant possibly be this ignorant. Would you like some reading material??

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 21, 2023 7:51 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Just to be clear, I do “blame” the rich assholes who want to control the world, and they certainly deserve the biggest blame, but I also blame the people who enable them. I blame the pigs and media who do their dirty work. Just to remind you, there were many people who wanted me (and others like me) dead or at least unable to buy food because I did not want to get a fake vaccine. Fuck them, there are always going to be divisions. There is no 99% vs the 1%, that was all bullshit. We’re in a fight for human freedom, and it is not just the “planners” who we’re fighting. “We’re” meaning those fighting for freedom, I don’t know your goals, so I’m not insinuating you with that.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 8:34 PM

fight for human freedom

We’re in a fight for what the next historical period will be like.

Many of the challenges addressed by the great resetters are probably real, perhaps not quite the way they present them, but real nevertheless. The socioeconomic system is fucked. Culture is fucked. Civilization is on the verge of collapse, having no meaningful raison d’etre.

There is no viable vision for an organic, freedom-based future that will embody an approach to life that differs from the madness of the past decades/centuries.

There sure are assholes intent on getting ahead, as is always the case. There are zilliards of imbeciles who have no clue, acting as useful idiots for these assholes.

And the few people who are sort of with it are arguing about who’s to blame.

Fucking hopeless.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 21, 2023 11:32 PM

LOL, ya, but I’m not going to go as far as fucking hopeless, can’t do that. I’ve got kids, grandkids, soon to be great grandkids, and I hate the MFers that are doing this. So I’ll never give up hope of seeing them get their due. Ever heard of Mother Jones? One of my favorites of hers is  “You ought to be out raising hell. This is the fighting age. Put on your fighting clothes.”

Sal P
Sal P
Jul 22, 2023 1:36 AM

Anarchism. It’s not just the best solution. It’s the only solution.

But it will be rejected out-of-hand by the vast majority of people, none of whom understand it. It would take too much work to become enlightened, politically and spiritually. So, they would rather sit and watch as society goes down (or up) in flames, with the excuse that there is nothing to be done. Par for the course for the death culture that people have been taught to embrace and has now engulfed us.

Yes, death is inevitable, a part of life. But to allow it to be violently shoved down our throats by a few psychopaths makes no sense. At least not to me.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 22, 2023 5:34 AM
Reply to  Sal P

Anarchy, in the sense of absence of hierarchy, would be a good solution, but it’s a utopian concept because it the prerequisites for anarchy to be maintained, let alone established simply cannot be fulfilled.

For anarchy to function, people would have to be strong individuals possessing and projecting sufficient power to ward off any motherfucker intent on fucking them over – and there will always be such motherfuckers, don’t fool yourself thinking that there won’t – so as to maintain a governance-free existence.

That doesn’t mean, however, that people shouldn’t endeavor to become stronger, more individualist, less dependent on the collective.

Sal P
Sal P
Jul 22, 2023 7:31 PM

First, I didn’t mean to imply that setting up an Anarchist society would be easy. In fact, I think it will be quite daunting, for a variety of reasons. In this context, the question is: would implementing an Anarchist society present more and bigger challenges than trying to survive in the panopticon of the transhumanist authoritarian fascist society that is planned for us? I do agree with you that there will always be bad actors – either individuals or groups – who will try to destroy what others have built. There will always be options to deal with this threat. In fact, I think a society without government may actually reduce the number of people who are acting out their frustrations within the system as it is now. I’m with Albert Anderson (in this thread) when he said, “… hopeless, can’t do that.” But hope without action becomes “hopium” which,… Read more »

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 9:19 PM
Reply to  Sal P

I’m totally in favor of a governance/hierarchy-free society – anarchy. I’d say that I personally practice it. I’m as detached from the government as possible.

You gotta be pragmatic, though.

The prerequisite for anarchy is a society of self-confident self-reliant individuals that would first reject the current hierarchical protectionist system. That’s the exact opposite what people now are and where the trend is moving. People are absolutely not ready for anarchy, not to mention that this concept has been discredited and you’d need to come up with a different name. Right new, people would laugh anarchy off.

Could some form of anarchy one day exist? Who knows. But instead of promoting a mirage impossible to accomplish now, it’s better to start by making people more individualistic, self-reliant, self-confident.

Sal P
Sal P
Jul 23, 2023 12:55 AM
Reply to  Zorgling

Yes, the term “anarchy” has been severely distorted. I suppose I could use the term Voluntaryism, or Mutualism, or Individualism. I’m not sure it would make much difference as it would all come down to basically the same thing.

How does one make another person “more individualistic, self-reliant, self-confident”? These are all characteristics that are inherent in humans but have been buried by political and religious propaganda. Which is why I alluded to a spiritual enlightenment as necessary for a radical change in direction.

As for me, as long as no one seems to be able to present any viable options to get us out of this mess, I (and I’m sure others) will continue preaching the gospel of Anarchism and in this way perhaps I’ll be able to open people’s eyes. Sadly, we’re running out of time and I admit that so far I haven’t been very successful.

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 23, 2023 1:24 PM
Reply to  Sal P

We’re both saying essentially the same thing.

I don’t know if the above qualities are inherent in humans. Maybe. But they are, as you say, buried and the trend is the other way.

So, first you have to do the ‘enlightenment’, however that happens, and then anarchy might be possible.

Thinking that some form of anarchy is the immediate solution now is delusional hallucination, as much as I’d like to see something like that happening.

Sal P
Sal P
Jul 23, 2023 6:31 PM
Reply to  Zorgling

Yes, I think we are saying the same thing. But just for the record, I didn’t state, or even imply, that Anarchy would or even could be an immediate solution.

Who knows? Maybe their dystopic plan will fail in the end. And if it does it will be another fine mess to clean up. At that point the best plan to “build back better” will be Anarchism and we can begin preparing for that scenario right now. But even after all that, whether or not the majority of people would come to this realization remains to be seen.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 8:22 AM
Reply to  Sal P

Spot on Sal.
No gods, no masters.
Rules WITHOUT rulers.
Hell for the hubristic.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 22, 2023 10:11 PM

There could be a 99% us vs the 1% them, if only we put our individual beliefs and preferences aside to focus on freedom. Ultimately that’s all the divide the 1% are interested in – removing our freedom and controlling everything.

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 22, 2023 1:10 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Those that have written down and planned the future of humanity without humanity’s input deserve blame. It is far better this than contrived disparate groups of humanity divided and fighting and blaming each other. … You’re right, dear Syl. And their guilt must be pointed out in the first place, so are important the people who have undertaken this laborious task. For example, since you are Canadian, let us mention one of the people who tirelessly and regularly point out the plans of the great evil players, such as the Canadian patriot and leading critic of transhumanists and eugenists, climate change scammers and plandemics, Bilderberg, the club of Rome, Bis, Wef, Darpa, and all the other “nazi heirs,” as he often describes them: Mr. Matthew Ehret, “Journalist, Artist, Senior Fellow of American University in Moscow”,” as he calls himself in his substack. Under no circumstances would I fail to pay… Read more »

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 22, 2023 1:16 AM
Reply to  Chuka

As an avid Ehret fan, wanting to learn more about this event, I took a walk to «Horizon-2100» 2021of the Center for modeling the future. I learned that the event is held with the regular grants of “President of the Russian Federation for the development of civil society provided by the Presidential Grants Fund,” the Gorchakov Fund and others. (And, by the way “in 2021, the organizers of the competition will welcome works in which participants will present their solutions aimed at overcoming possible future pandemics and building human resilience to possible future challenges.“) And there, under the tutelage and guidance of the most reputable experts, various Russian and foreign professors, indeed, as Matt well put it, the inspired “young leaders of the future think creatively about the optimistic potentials for humanity.” I recognize that the decisions that the young leaders of the future have proposed have exceeded my expectations,… Read more »

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 22, 2023 7:45 AM
Reply to  Chuka

Oops, I’m sorry. I had to stretch a philosophical chew of things long known, repeated for the millionth time, or I had to repeat, also for a millionth time, the well-known facts about the same Roman club, transhumanists, etc., only in relation to the Fallen Western elite, referring to authoritative alt-researchers, if I wanted my comment to be that long. Fully deserved red thumbs, I humbly accept them.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 23, 2023 12:52 AM
Reply to  Chuka

I enjoyed the comment Chuka. It teaches. Always a good thing.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:15 AM
Reply to  Chuka

Thanks for this very informative comment. Meaning there is no one defending the human race which everybody are convinced should “be improved”. I am a fan myself of both Matthew and Cynthia, two young very bright people who made a fantastic work and wrapped up our true historical political roots and many hidden agenda’s in the official narratives . But as always when we think finally we found someone who “got it”, we discover they are into the same blind gate. Trans humanism, the cyborg who are lost of spirituality and soul, because they dont need it with their superior “Artificial Intelligence” = False Intelligence, and the crumbs which is necessary is dealt with by copying human behaviour and false emotions. What these trans humanists are doing, is brainwashing the population into infantilization and artificial global threats, whereafter they will “improve” not only the infantilized youth and the now disfunctional… Read more »

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 22, 2023 2:02 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

That’s right, yes.
All Matt and Cynthia have to do if they want to help, or at least fully inform their listeners and readers, is to fully inform them, not to report the same things from the East and from the west in different ways. Who benefits from this? Certainly not their readers and listeners.

By the way, there is an interesting intensification of transhumanist (or subhumanist) tendencies. For example, here’s the info above: accurate and verifiable, with links. And the info is a bit of a shock compared to what’s known so far. Does it matter who says it? No. But there is. If it were reported by an authoritative author, no doubt it would be different. Well, if that’s not form of subhumanism, then what is it?
Funny:)

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:32 PM
Reply to  Chuka

Precisely what I also write. Subhumanism or infantilization, people and authority who wants to improve because both do not like who the people really are.
Shame because we are all born unique and dont need to be ashamed.

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 22, 2023 2:22 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

By the way, there are many things in this thread to which the links is linked (and in the other of my front posts). Some of the very interested things, there are nowhere outside of Russia. Including in the well-known boutique information agency on Russia (you know who). It doesn’t matter why it is, but it is. An this is important things, warranty.

The point is, I’m pretty bad in health, and in a few days, a week, I don’t know what’s going to happen to these threads. Maybe they’ll stay, maybe they won’t. So, if anyone is interested, can read, or/and save, or whatever. Just to say

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:44 PM
Reply to  Chuka

We must remember Kremlin constantly talk about their “equal partners” and if we in the West dismiss their horny love letters, they will just plagiate and copy us in everything anyway within their own sphere.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2023 5:43 AM

He began getting publicity just as the covid super-scam was unravelling. Pointing at the masses without specifying just where they had gone astray and who had misled them. This is more social “science”.

Seth the Great
Seth the Great
Jul 24, 2023 1:04 AM

What’s YOUR solution?

sandy
sandy
Jul 21, 2023 4:09 PM

Sylvia, your articles are flypaper for nihilists.

Howard
Howard
Jul 21, 2023 4:45 PM
Reply to  sandy

Sandy, a fascinating comment – one that leaves a reader begging for an explanation. And as a faux nihilist, I humbly beg.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 6:26 PM
Reply to  sandy

I’d rather be flypaper for nihilists than crazy-glue for denialists

sandy
sandy
Jul 21, 2023 7:15 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Just sayin’!

If you want bees to come, you need to have some nectar & pollen to make some ecosystem magic do it’s thing.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 22, 2023 8:26 PM
Reply to  sandy

The presumption being that I’m looking for bees. I am not. Just a human commenting. Not trying to change the world.

sandy
sandy
Jul 22, 2023 8:41 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

So you like the Establishment’s functionality, the “world”, as it is? Or have no thoughts on how it could be organized and participated within to better serve meeting the social needs of Humanity?

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 23, 2023 12:35 AM
Reply to  sandy

My ideas on that are basically simplistic and do not hold a candle to the ideas we often find here in the comment section from far better and informed minds. I am not one to know the answer. Believe me, if I did, I’d shout it in every piece I write but I have no solutions.I am pretty basic in advice: take care of your family, yourself, your community, plant a garden and buy some rice methinks. The only idea I have is that all those with solutions need to come together in an organized fashion similar to the WEF. Everyone seems to want the glory of saving the world and thats too much ego. I know we have now reached a point where analyzing and/or describing the problem is no longer useful.

sandy
sandy
Jul 24, 2023 12:16 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

As long as we believe each of us somehow inferior to “far better and informed minds” we remain as school children hopium-obedient to some mythical parent class superior human that does not exist. Do you not know the kind of world you would want to live in? “Take care of family, yourself, your community, plant a garden and buy some rice” is practical knowledge and acts that are more intelligent than AI will ever be and more useful than anything a WEF member probably has ever done in their ultra privileged lifetimes. If we apply those exact same take-care-ofs you mention to the design of a society, we are half way to the solutions. You underestimate yourself and Humanity when for some inexplicable reason you and others secede their minds over to an “other” when God gave you a mind just as well as all adults. This idea we are… Read more »

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 24, 2023 11:57 PM
Reply to  sandy

Sandy, i have great faith in your thinking. In the past when I’ve taken on leadership type roles I have a very clear idea of what was needed and how to do it. In this case… nadda. I am unclear on everything. I’m at the point where I can’t even envisage the world I would want. I do think however that human nature eeems to need to blame and the WEF is certainly capable of handling the anger and judgment whereas people fighting each other in proxy is pretty damaging and hopeless and distracting. So I will direct people to the WEF for the inevitable blame until such time as we all grow up. Or they start realizing they aren’t the only people with ideas on the planet. Also. Stop these stupid wars. I am also old and look to the younger people to find their solutions. I don’t understand… Read more »

sandy
sandy
Jul 25, 2023 3:34 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Syl, you have all the solutions in what you just spoke, but are not seeing it! You do not want war. In the US that desire would be to reduce the Defense, State, HS & Spy departments by 90% and bringing all the troops and Spies home. No more foreign empire. That’s a Policy. We, the 99% can make policy. It is the People’s rights whether UK or US or anywhere. You want yourself, your family, your community to thrive. Policies that actualize that eliminate industrial pollution, create Public Banking with nominal rates and universal access to credit for everyone, with limitations on wealth and poverty. If we just extrapolate from our basic needs the policies that achieve that. We hire implementation technicians to direct existing staff, what used to be 1/7th of employed peoples. What we want, what the bottom 95% want, comes first. We hire government staff to… Read more »

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 25, 2023 5:12 AM
Reply to  sandy

THere you go Sandy. You got it. See what I mean. Now… how do you get all these different people who understand this to come together and make it happen? Therein lies the rub. There are lots of groups. You will tell me of one. Another will tell me of another. There are many talking heads also saying the right things. Meanwhile, the machine that is the WEF keeps on rolling. is it going to be about one movement or about all of them swelling up? I do not know. Do you?

sandy
sandy
Jul 24, 2023 12:21 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Why is my previous response to Syl “pending”? There is not one link or offensive language.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 21, 2023 3:55 PM

In a spirit of love, the MC take on the Oppenheimer film, which opens today.
https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/crisis-update-oppenheimer-film-pulls

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 21, 2023 5:06 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

The first word I thought of when I saw that film coming out was, “propaganda”. I can’t despise those involved, especially the actors, enough. They’re traitors, plain and simple. It’s hard to remember one so obvious. Maybe that one film about the fake killing of Bin Laden.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 21, 2023 7:01 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Thanks. Oppenheimer‘s certainly on my watchlist. And I’d agree. The “film could not be more prescient”.

The world seems ever closer to nuclear war. With the US recently moving nuclear subs to South Korea. And as you write, that virtual lack of social warnings, as to the consequences (unlike like century) is highly disturbing.

The only questions remaining (at least currently) would seem to be who, where and when it will start

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:40 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

The end is near. The end solution.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 21, 2023 3:53 PM

If only there were evil people somewhere insifiously committing evil deeds, it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being, and who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?– SOLZHENITSYN In defence of Mattias Desmet (in echo of “Potty Mouth the Clown”): with the above quoted from Desmet’s book: Chapter 8 — entitled “Conspiracy and Ideology”; which starts with the simple instructions to draw something called a “Sierpinski triangle” which is a self-repeating fractal patterning; and the admonition to bear that in mind whilst reading. How do you get ~4-5 bn to analogously draw a self-repeating, self-organising, spontaneously-ordered patterning we call civilisation? You don’t know? Well, by doing exactly what you are doing right now. Civilisation does not ‘emerge’ from your self-organising behaviour – it is… Read more »

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 21, 2023 5:52 PM
Reply to  Bryan

That’s a lot of words but they are navel gazing. There is nothing spontaneous about “civilisation”- it is fundamentally opposed to spontaneity and it is patently neither natural nor “emergent”. It is enforced.
The etymolgy of the word itself is revealing.

Most likely you will retort with “everything that exists and happens is natural” which would be yet another pointless word exercise- what is natural is not defined by words but by direct experience and feeling.

How can there be something “not natural” ? That is what we might call the side effects of the singularity which is life on this planet….. and the human calling is to deal with those before we can really live.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 22, 2023 7:06 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

I do not know you, you do not know me: but we share in the same activity — as does everbody else…. So how do we know what to do in our decentralised activity? I was born, educated, and trained to do a specific task which I chose to do and I perform my own actions at every stage of my life — and so do you…. and by extension: so does everybody else. (Caveat: I’m writing from a First World perspective; I’m not extending this to the Third World; they are good enough to extend us this privilige.) I do my bit (I actually was a builder); you do your bit, everybody else does their bit — and civilisation gets built. So who controlled all the activity? You and me, or somebody else enforcing you? Desmet is absolutely right and CJs phantasising ‘globocap.’ ‘Globocap’ is you, me, and everybody… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 11:49 AM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

I can explain civilisation for ya.

Instead of being our own carpenter, doctor, engineer, musician, plumber, m.m. we specialize us into each our discipline to cooperate into become a more effective society.
Civilisation creates big classic music orchestras, priests who specialises in religion, Physicians who can do complicated surgery, Architects who build monumental buildings, etc.

This is called civilisation.

Strindstrom
Strindstrom
Jul 22, 2023 11:12 PM
Reply to  Ras-Puputin

RE “There is nothing spontaneous about “civilisation”- it is fundamentally opposed to spontaneity and it is patently neither natural nor “emergent”. It is enforced.

That’s not just mere “navel gazing” but wallowing in deep fantasies about real reality.

All of “civilization” is the predictable outcome of what humans are naturally and willfully, it’s just categorically and eternally denied and “hidden” — The 2 Married Pink Elephant Human Civilization

“Never hide the truth to spare the feelings of the ignorant.” — Mikhail Bulgakov

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 3:18 PM

We the people of the world are at war, and have been at war, for centuries with TPTB. Most just didn’t know of or see the war. The War on Pollution The War on Climate The War on Drugs The War on Terrorists The War on Viruses We the people of the world are the pollution, climate,users, terrorists and virus. The idea that we the people of the world must accept austerity for the “good of the earth”, is just a variation of collectivism. The idea that we the people of the world must die by the billions to save the one. Anyone suggesting that the people of the world are responsible, when we are essentially at the bottom of the power and decision making totem pole, is ignorant or complicit with TPTB. Governments and Corporations, period, are the ones responsible for any perceived, or real, damage to the environment.… Read more »

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 3:50 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

For the record, I’d like to say that whoever are Thomas’ “We the People”, I am not a member of that subset of people.

I’m Potty Mouth the Fucking Clown and I wish to be part of no group of some people. In fact, I don’t particularly care if I’m people at all. Especially if Thomas is him the people.

So Thomas, next time you refer to “You the People”, kindly append a mention that the said people exclude Potty Mouth the Fucking Clown, just to make sure that nobody thinks that I’m a member of your deranged cult. Thanks in advance, cowboy!

Ras-Puputin
Ras-Puputin
Jul 21, 2023 5:56 PM

For the record, I’d like to say

I strongly doubt anyone cares enough to put it on the record.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 7:52 PM

LOL.
Right, anyone that doesn’t prescribe to your worldview is in a cult.
See you down range.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 9:39 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You probably meant “subscribe”, but words got in the way …

Happens to you all the time, no biggie …

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 10:42 PM

This is the definition of prescribe:
intransitive verb
To set down as a rule, law, or direction.
To order the use of (a medicine or other treatment).
To establish rules, laws, or directions.

This is the definition of subscribe
intransitive verb
To pledge or contribute (a sum of money).
To sign (one’s name) at the end of a document, especially to attest to or authenticate it.
To sign one’s name to (a document) in attestation, testimony, or consent.on of subscribe

I will assert that based on these definitions, my use of the word prescribe is more acceptable, based on context, than subscribe.

So you’re the one confused about words. No one mentioned money or signing any documents. Next time you want to deflect your lack of intellect ,with what you think is proper work usage, look in the mirror first.

You’re still not going to make it.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 22, 2023 1:29 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

As an impartial reader, subscribe is the more accurate word.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 22, 2023 5:43 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

subscribe(səbˈskraɪb)
vb
1. (Banking & Finance) (usually foll by to) to pay or promise to pay (a sum of money) as a contribution (to a fund or charity, for a magazine, etc), esp at regular intervals
2. (Law) to inscribe or sign (one’s name, etc) at the end of a contract, will, or other document
3. (foll by: to) to give support or approval: to subscribe to the theory of transubstantiation.

Thomas, you could say prescribe a worldview, but you can’t say prescribe to a worldview.

Anyway, no biggie, as I said. Maybe you were thinking of watering the tree of liberty, too busy worrying about words.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 22, 2023 3:20 PM

This is the Webster’s Dictionary definition of Prescribe.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prescribe

This is the Webster’s Dictionary definition of Subscribe.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subscribe

I will assert again, you fail at word usage and comprehension.

Using another account to try and back yourself up is lame.

The Tree of Liberty is to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time, to maintain freedom and liberty. Obviously your blood is in the tyrant / peasant category.

You still aren’t going to make it.

Zorgling
Zorgling
Jul 22, 2023 4:22 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Well, I’m a Gemini and there are many me’s.

I can’t imagine living such a boring life as yours, as Thomas Frey, the refresher of the tree of liberty.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 22, 2023 6:40 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

As per PMtC, who drew the operative distinction:

“Thomas, you could say prescribe a worldview, but you can’t say prescribe to a worldview.”

Your meaning and intent are clear in context, but prescribe is the wrong word.

Howard
Howard
Jul 21, 2023 4:41 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

All the toxicity you mention has an end product – and that product is, sad to say, the lowly ones at the bottom of the power chain who partake of the fruits of said toxicity.

Cast everything TPTB offer as “progress” into the flames and the top layers of the power chain will go away – to fight another day, in another way.

The only ones who never “align themselves with TPTB” inhabit graveyards. The living are plagued by the twin pillars of “civilization”: needing and wanting.

Mark
Mark
Jul 23, 2023 10:30 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

To the list above we could add “War on the elites”, and that also constitutes a war against our own culture/civilisation. Solzhenitsyn also says the corrupting element of power is emergent unless the leaders are subservient to God.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 21, 2023 3:13 PM

The criticism of Matthias Desmet was by Moneycircus, who was once but never again published on Off-Guardian – for reasons that were never explained.

Anywhoo… the article is here
https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/mass-formation-and-psycho-drama

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 21, 2023 3:15 PM
Reply to  moneycircus
syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 6:36 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Ah moneycircus, thank you for the clarification. I had thought it was Hopkins. Perhaps both?

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Jul 21, 2023 2:54 PM

We’re already there – instead of God we bow daily to our phones and the stimulant laden pornography of modern culture.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 22, 2023 12:10 PM

The Big Corp’s Chief ideologist from Israel ,Yuri something, even bragged about how he got all worshippers out of the Church where they were praying up to God in heaven.

Via behavioural science made them worship Big tech praying down to Zoom:and spending all their money on 15 different Apple and Microsoft updates.

“Dear God, You who are inside my Flat screen, praised be your name Microsoft, coming your digital Reich, give us today our daily e-money, free us from the evil real God, in Bill Gates name, Amen.”…………….LOL……………The Deceiver did it again.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 21, 2023 2:42 PM

Yes, “we’re” here due to an accumulation of coerced decisions that extend before many of our lifetimes. How ‘we’ proceed now is soo key. Especially, if the intention is to scupper the parasites preferred outcome. Though they appear to be content with capturing 30/40% of the Western population & criminalising the rest. Homesteading & getting out of cities, if able, is still such an important option to take. Volunteer, offer any skill you possess or are willing to learn. If one’s intention is to enjoy your remaining time here ok, yet feel that is it really possible to do that with a clear conscience unless ‘you’ also help people decouple/escape. To decouple from “modern” society & starve the beast, as to show it can be done, will hopefully prove an inspiration to others. “Resistance is Feudal” the late great Alan Watt. He lived in Canada surprised his example hasn’t inspired… Read more »

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 6:58 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

To which I always ask what do you do with 8 million people in New York City? However, that said, I agree.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 21, 2023 8:45 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

There is a choice. There’s many people offering shelter & food to people, in Europe, for a pre arranged volunteering agreement. To assist on people’s land. Be it restoration projects or picking fruit & veg to looking after livestock.

So if people want to stay or can’t afford to leave cities, it’s understandable. But there’s options for those unable to afford a farm.

The choice is based on what do you truly value? Living in these open air asylums or returning to source & pursing an autonomous life style. I’ve chosen so perhaps I’m biased. The mentality out here is far better than the manic vibe in major cities.

I advise anyone to leave cities asap

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 9:52 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

Leave the city. Move to some banana republic, the less advanced (meaning advanced on its way down the tubes) the better.

If you miss the city, which the city boy in me sometimes kinda does, go for a short visit and the pure phantasmagoria there will assure you that you’ve made a good choice by getting the fuck out.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 21, 2023 9:56 PM

Fuck me! Is that agreement lol.

I don’t miss it. Been lucky enough to see a far bit of this world. I like this way of life. But it’s the tech now that I want to shed at some point.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 22, 2023 1:34 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Also, I believe you misinterpreted my comment & imagine I’ve some sort responsibility, somehow, unbeknownst to myself, over 8 million New Yorker’s.
They’ve the right to bear arms, they’ll work it out eventually. If they can stop killing eachother that is.

Howard
Howard
Jul 21, 2023 1:40 PM

I think these “elites” are as helplessly and hopelessly caught in the grip of what might be called The Universal DNA as the lowliest beings in the food chain (that would be gnats!). They do what “elites” have been programmed to do since humanity began its march to “civilization,” which is to slowly destroy civilization. Every species is pre-programmed for extinction. “Oh not us!” many humans will insist. Each species does everything it’s wired to do; and all of it leads inexorably to its own termination. The “proof” (since way too many consider that quaint notion relevant) lies in the simple fact that even when it’s repeatedly pointed out the absolute folly of, e.g., things like climate engineering, which is destroying the planet’s life support systems – the folly still continues unabated. Nobody really wants to stop it or to even know how to stop it. They think they do,… Read more »

DOA
DOA
Jul 21, 2023 3:49 PM
Reply to  Howard

Great Comment.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 21, 2023 5:10 PM
Reply to  Howard

I just wish they were “helplessly caught”…

To me they don’t seem anywhere near panicky and desperate enough…

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 21, 2023 5:38 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Personally, I don’t go with the “every species is pre-programmed for extinction” thing either. The reason is that we have a unique quality as a species: The ability to recognize our own ability to choose, regrettably along with our potential for self-extinction due to making inappropriate choices. Other animals certainly become extinct, but in their case the matter is taken out of their hands. Also, one or two unhinged or abnormal specimens of an animal group are not generally going to bring down the entire species. Today, it is generally man’s existence which threatens other species, as well as himself, but then there is always the potential for evolutionary change: Given the vast time-scales in which anthropologists generally work, man surely doesn’t always have to look, or behave the way he does today? And then there is the non-physical aspect to our existence as a species. Whatever I can prove,… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 22, 2023 12:15 AM
Reply to  wardropper

The great mystery of instinct wardropper?
As with Love.
No thinking required.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 22, 2023 1:58 AM
Reply to  Johnny

With serious matters, I reckon thinking is always required, but it’s also nice to have an OFF switch for occasional use – just to prevent overload… 🙂

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2023 6:12 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Crocodiles and related species did not get the memo on extinction. Also, microbes are evolving all the time: that is or is not extinction, as you wish.

Howard
Howard
Jul 22, 2023 4:21 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The thing that absolutely places the “elites'” helplessness in cement is their stunning ability not to see how they’re as much playthings of reality (the real reality – not the reality they create) as the lowliest amoeba.

Their great power and wealth is very much akin to Sisyphus endlessly pushing the boulder uphill only to have it roll back down each time.

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Jul 21, 2023 12:54 PM

Some people blaming everything on an elite is supposed to be similar to the masses who fully supported gov actions during the lockdowns?
Either there are not responsible elites or its not everything?
Whatever, they pass laws prepared years before in anticipation of manufactured events and any and all opposition is met with extreme violence. None of that is some unreal psychology.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 21, 2023 3:38 PM

The point is to move beyond such a simplistic analysis (not yours).
Those who bog down the debate in: there is a one world government, all countries are in on the game, but there’s no such thing as the Great Reset (the same gambit that Antifa etc are spontaneous and unorganised)… are prima facie inconsistent.

But read around here… you will see just such a line.

My conclusion (only mine, as a freak) is that the “alt” media that purvey such inconsistencies are not alt.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jul 21, 2023 11:19 AM

One of the more irritating aspects of the last covid farce was how the ambulances would make siren noises as they careered up and down the High Street. Of course these vehicles were usually empty and those terrified inside were shitting themselves, ”Oh dear we’re dooooomed”! The police were in on it as well. We got used to it pretty quickly though and just ignored the bullshit.

There were also those masked true-believers who had got themselves kitted-out with those welders masks when they were on sale:- yours for £95. Money down the drain or what?

thinking-turtle
thinking-turtle
Jul 21, 2023 3:15 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

Same here, in the Netherlands there are still lots of sirens, from police, ambulances and fire trucks. They started turning them on at night, even 3AM in a densely populated area. There’s constant patrols of helicopters.

I was cycling on a rural road with no other car in sight and an ambulance came by with sirens on. Never seen anything like it before.

Binra
Binra
Jul 21, 2023 9:14 PM

Nazgul dementers – uncouple the sound from its previous meaning.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 22, 2023 6:18 AM

The 3 AM timing may be deliberate. Many of those who go to sleep at 10-12 may then be beginning the dream state. That could be an ideal time to introduce such a potentially alarming stimulus.

eman
eman
Jul 21, 2023 10:44 AM

The grey zone article about who blew up the Russian bridge the other day raises all sorts of questions about ex Intelligence people working for private companies incorporated in one country but contracting with foreign governments. The article sheds light on the massive explosion that took place in Libya a few years back. talk about changing the world? What exactly constitutes a crime against humanity? a corrupt act by a government employee, blowing up dams, blowing up bridges, murdering people because they speak a different or outlawed language or because they are of the wrong religion or come from a different culture, sanctioning governments as a means cause a revolt against the leaders of sanctioned government, marketing pharmaceuticals including vaccines that have not been proven safe? Just what should the people deem to be a crime against humanity? Where can the people find the power to indite, prosecute and punish… Read more »

Herbert Hawkins
Herbert Hawkins
Jul 21, 2023 10:27 AM

This is a tricky debate to settle conclusively. Ultimately we are collectively responsible for the situation we find ourselves as we all went along with the plans that led us here, on the other hand decades of manipulated situations propaganda and powerful psychological techniques were utilised by leaders to drive the unwitting masses in the direction they wanted. Perhaps a binary answer is incorrect, and that it’s the case that we are all guilty, though some are more culpable than others. At the end of the day finding someone to blame is futile and achieves nothing, or efforts would be better spent finding solutions to the problems we face. That may include finding ways to stop the few from herding the masses like sheep.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 12:08 PM

“finding solutions”

Precisely. Gotta look to the future, not to the past. And even if there were one identifiable motherfucker guilty of the deep shit the world is in, which there isn’t because it is the result of humankind’s collective actions, what would it solve to point the finger at him?

It would solve nothing.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 2:57 PM

So you think the trajectory of the world is just a coincidence caused they the collective actions of all people, resulting in unintended consequences?

Do you view yourself as a “Coincidence Theorist”?

What other things / events in life follow your theory of unintended consequences in nature?

Do you think a Tornado can run through a junkyard and create a functional machine?

Do you think poems and music can write themselves into juxtaposition to form a song?

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 3:46 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

The trajectory of the world is not coincidence, but result of all the actions hitherto carried out by all the people in conjunction with phenomena occurring in their habitat.

I don’t view myself as nothing.

The rest of your babble is hallucinatory phantasms that I cannot respond to because I have no idea what you’re talking about. Try to focus on the subject matter.

Music ain’t it, not to mention that you know shit about it.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 7:59 PM

So how many people, not corporations, not members of a corporation, not government, do you know of that have spilled tons of chemicals into waterways? Caused 1000s of acres to burn? Designed a faulty EV that is likely to explode if in an accident? Controls your access to food? Controls your access to utilities?

Do any of your neighbors set the prices for utilities in your neighborhood?

Does anyone you know, decide how many illegal immigrants get to land on your shores and take possession of housing at taxpayer expense?

Do you know anyone personally that has by policy destroyed energy production for your place of residence?

So you are just something, nothing specific, because you have zero moral convictions?

Yes, questions are hard to understand for the intellectually dishonest, and disingenuous.

No one’s knowledge of music was questioned or asserted.
Try harder at not deflecting.

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 9:56 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

What’s this rant now supposed to mean, man? Individual people obviously don’t have the power collectives of people do. But collectives are composed of people.

BTW, I do know some people who make the kind of decisions you allude to. So what?

Anyway, try to refrain from mixing apples with oranges and adding copious amounts of piss and shit in there for a good measure.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 10:46 PM

I didn’t ask if people are collectives or if collectives are made of people.
Your failed circular logic is noted.

How are “the collective people” responsible for governments and corporations spilling millions of gallons of waste and or chemicals into waterways, or destruction of our environment by other means?

Try hard.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 22, 2023 5:43 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You are a descendant of illegal immigrants.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 21, 2023 9:56 AM

‘Serfs up’

Question is: Will we ride the big waves or get caught in the undertow?

Thanks Syl.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 23, 2023 12:40 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I think it only matters that we have flashy outfits and beautifully crafted boards with the right logos and stuff.

Mish
Mish
Jul 21, 2023 9:37 AM

Spend too much time reading about ‘how bad things are’ because of ‘xxxx’ and you’ll end up rather miserable. I’m having a great old time. Of course, I dodged a few bullets over the past few years (jibbyjab), but this was evident to anyone with modicum of critical thinking ability. I’ve got friends who are self-professed ‘truthers’ – the ‘awake’ – who are really in a dark spot at the moment (psychologically) due to events outside of their control. They -and others- need to cultivate a mental state that allows one to thrive and express joyously in this still very beautiful world. Check out of the media matrix. Be outside a lot. Read great books. Cook sumptuous food for yourself and others. Party heaps with good friends. And do not comply. PS> I will confess that I find the OffGuardian comments section fucking A1! Articles can be hit and miss;… Read more »

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 10:24 AM
Reply to  Mish

Peace and love back Mish.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jul 21, 2023 10:38 PM
Reply to  Mish

Certainly is difficult facing up to where you are, how you arrived here. Nearly all comments on facts are sacred believe in mainstream history.
I dunno, do you ?
Christianity made up in the 19th C ?
We are pig-ape ?
!000 – 1800 years missing, made-up ?
We live on a ball…
Don’t believe, have faith in me ?
https://stolenhistory.net/forums/

Matt Black
Matt Black
Jul 22, 2023 11:03 AM

ahh stolenhistory the most intresting site on the whole internet

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 22, 2023 7:10 PM
Reply to  Mish

Good advice, Mish. That’s what I try to do … once I’ve had enough of the doom-and-gloom.

thinking-turtle
thinking-turtle
Jul 21, 2023 9:31 AM

Or perhaps it’s karma. Look down instead of up for once, to people who have it worse than we do. We all cheer for extra rules and controls for those lazy immigrant bums on welfare.

That attitude mirrors how people above us see us. For the elites, we are the lazy local salaried bums that must be punished with rules and controls.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 10:25 AM

Well… not all of us cheer for extra rules for immigrant bums on welfare… but I see your point. We are the mooing herds.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 21, 2023 4:28 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

My, “Immigrant bums on welfare”. Are you an Inuit or Inuk Mrs Shawcross?

Wouldn’t it be helpful to see past these differences & realise we are all being coerced & trapped by economic enslavement?

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 7:01 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

I believe you misinterpreted my response Kac.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 22, 2023 12:51 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Absolutely sly

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Jul 22, 2023 1:21 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Upon reflection I believe I have, apologies.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 22, 2023 8:57 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

no worries

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 9:17 AM

Let me debunk a few of the deluded statements in the text: The people did not create the situations that caused them to react the way that they have. That was mostly orchestrated. Who exactly are aforementioned “the people”? There are some people other than people? The current situations are the result of all the goings-on in the past, perpetuated by all the people. Efforts to blame some “people” who foist their nefarious will on other “people”, i.e. seeking somebody to blame, is pure bullshit. There are no such people to be blamed and, more importantly, it matters not because looking for them will solve nothing. Get it through your head once and for all. The destruction of american/western culture is happening quickly. American/Western culture has been dying for the last 40 years, since roughly the 1980s, when the regurgitation of the past somewhat fruitful 50 years began. The heyday… Read more »

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 10:21 AM

Thank you for your comment

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 21, 2023 5:04 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

You are either being incredibly generous or incredibly droll.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jul 21, 2023 6:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I’ll never tell

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jul 21, 2023 10:35 AM

So, you’ve never heard of the Bulgarian ITN Party, it appears, nor Slavi Trifonov who created it,
Which translated means effectively …

‘There is such a People’

Power corrupts absolutely !

Potty Mouth the Clown
Potty Mouth the Clown
Jul 21, 2023 12:06 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

What we have on our hands is a system people have developed over the past few centuries mainly thanks to the discovery of high-density energy, which has facilitated and driven unprecedented growth and development. It all started basically in good faith, the energy was used to free people from manual labor, everyday drudgery. As time went on, however, the purpose has morphed from freeing people from hard labor to providing luxury all the way to today’s unbridled consumerist binge, where people produce and consume totally useless shit for the sole purpose of satiating their hunger for dopamine generated by the momentary pleasure from acquiring a new gadget. In the mad quest for yet another useless piece of shit, for having more than thy neighbor, the economic/financial system has been thoroughly fucked up, the cost (energy) of today’s consumption shifted to the future through debt, all sorts of other pathological phenomena.… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 21, 2023 3:02 PM

You are nothing more than a peasant that can’t wait to live on your knees sucking on the royal teet.

Zorgling
Zorgling