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WATCH: Modeling Disobedience

Here, deep into 2023, what are the worst things happening – the most dangerous and important things that we’re facing – and what’s the good news? Who are the people and organizations, besides you, who are trying to wake people up, so more people can resist the total tyranny toward which we speed, and what are some of the things people can learn and do to free ourselves from all that’s trying to enslave and kill us?
– Bruce de Torres

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Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 2, 2023 8:29 PM

You have the right to go bananas, but dont go full bananas.

NickM
NickM
Sep 2, 2023 2:40 PM

“Here, deep into 2023, what are the worst things happening?”

Answer by the Jolly Heretic in a magnificent rant on the topic of hereditary incompetence among the public [also among our Leaders “and their blinking sons”]:

“LOW IQ CHAOS!”
https://youtu.be/l0cOWRpIuzo?si=t6jaQoRX7LqpQ-K0

Human values
Human values
Sep 2, 2023 11:48 AM

Yes, the economic system is collapsing, but that’s a good thing!

There is this evil system in the world that is collapsing, and the money system is a big part of it, although there are other systems working with it: religious, political, violent, evil, and antihuman, satanic.

As all the problems in the world are caused by the Devil, the solution is its destruction. The Spirit of God destroys the Devil. That’s what’s happening.  

charles kint
charles kint
Sep 3, 2023 8:14 PM
Reply to  Human values

I could not agree more !
most folks believe that our leaders in politics work to our benefit, and this is why it is all wrapped in beautiful slogans and ideas dealing with imaginary threads brought to us by the deep state: they induced a deep sleep affecting our God given consience, and over time this enemy has sold us, political murder unlawful wars and false flag attacks like 911 and unpresidented attacks on the most innocent in society ( our kids) all unchecked, and like any other crime that we let slip through our fingers the perpetrators get more brazen!!

but we are shown all this by the good media!!! yet the answers have already been dictated by the spirit from hell

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Sep 2, 2023 10:17 AM

OT:
“Crumbly Concrete”

Another bullshit story, then, eh?

Bryan
Bryan
Sep 2, 2023 9:10 AM

So neoliberalism is going bad and becoming centralisation of economic power manifesting as CBDC, biosecurity state-dependency and so on. No qualms with that. So what is the solution as the underlying theme of Corbett’s #solutionswatch? Remember this from 2016:

Cooperation and exchange are the very basis of human civilization. Economy and central planning are their antitheses.

So the best-known form of the distribution of economic goods and services is the ‘agorist’ free-market; that an “anarchic” state of production results in supplying people better than the orders of a centralised omnipotent government. Right? If not centralising and technocratic economic state-dependency and interventionism in our freedom and liberty to cooperate and exchange, then what? Remember this?

The role of the catallactician, then, is very different from that of the economist. The catallactician describes the order of human activity, quantifies and examines it. But directing that order? Managing it? Controlling it? Coercing its participants into a unitary plan of action? This is not even conceivable to the catallactician.

Thereafter: “welcome to the cattalaxy” whereupon cattalaxy is the spontaneous self-ordering of the externally unregulated but internally self-regulating free-market – otherwise known as market-based fundamentalism. A broader debunking is not merited; if the intervention in the free-market is the problematic, then non-intervention in the free-market is the solution underlying #solutionswatch. The choice is authoritarian free-market totalitarianism for which the solution is anti-authoritarian free-market fascism as a palingenic form of authoritarian free-market totalitarianism. See the economic cycle in play? Karl Polanyi did, but I’ll save the “double-movement” and the “Polanyi Moment” for another day.

FWIW: cattalaxy – there are ~4bn cattalacticians working for themselves in free-association right now in the global self-regulating free-market; which is an uncoerced “unitary plan of action” of the market species; anthropocentrically self-regarding as economically equilibriating but also oecologically disequilibrating and deregulating the self-regulating living planet; transforming it from habitable to inhabitable by inverse-proportion to economic cattalactic regulation.

The free-market favours psychiatic domination and the earth favours physiologic cooperation and exchangeability quantum sufficit (the Doric maxim – medea agan – neither too little nor too much as “golden mean”) for whichever pre-market forms of exchangeability would suffice for need, but never for marker-based greed.

Hence: “One idea to rule them all?” The economic psyche with insatiable appetencies for non-physiological things (Polanyi): but I don’t see anybody giving up on that vector of globalised market-obedience and economic contagion anytime soon. The Austrian School cattalaxy is totalitarianism perfected; the ultimated end of ego-engineering is the ultimated end of free-market fascism (read that however you want.)  

https://www.corbettreport.com/economists/

(Remember “My Little Pencils”?)

Bryan
Bryan
Sep 2, 2023 9:15 AM
Reply to  Bryan

“marker-based” = market-based (I tried the ‘edit’ function before and the entire comment got spammed.)

Matt Black
Matt Black
Sep 2, 2023 9:00 AM

I can’t think of anything I care less about than being told corrupt governments are corrupt. What a waste of time and energy by these grifters.

Big Al
Big Al
Sep 2, 2023 3:40 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

Then why waste your time here? That’s basically all this is about.

Otto
Otto
Sep 2, 2023 6:28 AM

Wake people up? Good luck.

The absolute vast majority of occidental populations have lived long lives of conformity, convention, compliance, obedience, adherence to the consumerist life script, never questioning anything, and keeping their mouth tightly shut lest they say something liable to offend their interlocutor.

They can not wake up, return to an alert state because they never were alert in the first place. Being obedient sheeple is a their true nature. They’d first have to be reeducated to transform themselves from sheep to wolf. Impossible in the vast majority of cases. That would require a long evolutionary process.

les online
les online
Sep 2, 2023 1:09 AM

Whether school-schooling or home-schooling
schooling is still child abuse !

Schooling is Obedience Training…

A S Neill and Summerhill School.
Body therapist Wilhelm Reich often drew from the work of educator A S Neill. a close friend, for evidence of the self-regulatory potentials of children. Neill likewise drew from Reich’s work for support of his Summerhill School in rural England, which was run on democratic principles. At Summerhill children were given almost complete freedom regarding choice of classes, attendance, dress, etc. School rules were developed at regular school assemblies, where each teacher and student, regardless of age, had one vote. Any student or teacher, regardless of age, could also address the entire assembly in attendance, on any issue. Neill demonstrated that under such conditions of nearly complete freedom. anarchy did not predominate, though a harmless chaotic playfulness often did. Neill also demonstrated that, even though class attendance was non-compulsory, children would, after an initial phase of rebellion (his pupils were often “rejects” from authoritarian schools) attend class quite regularly, on their own initiative. Neill viewed the spontaneous curiosity of children and their self-regulating independent-minded tendencies as positive attributes to be nurtured, rather than crushed – as is the usual case in the modern school system. Moreover, Neill observed his students finished their curricula quicker, and with higher test scores, than the students in the nearby state schools….
Summerhill demonstrated the fallacy of the assumption that children are innately “sinful” needing to be “tamed” and “civilised”. Like Reich, Neill saw the coercive, punitive, and sex-repressive families and schools as responsible for “making a muck” of children’s lives. He did not believe in a “problem child.” His early books were titled The Problem Teacher, That Dreadful School, and The Problem Parent, empasizing just where one found the main cause of children’s miseries and difficulties. Neill had come to his own conclusions independent of Reich, being originally stimulated by Homer Lane’s Little Commonwealth, a reform school which was converted to democratic principles and demonstrated that even “delinquent” children would positively respond to true freedom.
The work of deMause, who has studied the history of methods of childrearing and child abuse, also demonstrated that a child who is raised in a non-authoritarian and sex-positive manner “…is gentle, sincere, never depressed, never imitative or group oriented, strong willed, and unintimated by authority.” “The child”, he says, “knows better than the parent what it needs at each stage of life.”

Saharasia. 4000 BC Origins of Child Abuse… James DeMeo

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 2, 2023 7:39 AM
Reply to  les online

Is that how they get children to “transition to another gender”?

NickM
NickM
Sep 2, 2023 8:04 AM
Reply to  les online

A S Neill and Summerhill School.

Thanks for reminding this new 21stC generation about “That Dreadful School” — one of the best reads of my boyhood.

Ort
Ort
Sep 2, 2023 8:57 PM
Reply to  les online

When I was in high school, c. 1971, for some forgotten reason I decided to do a term paper about “alternative education”, and got very caught up in reading about various “free schools”.

I was particularly impressed when I discovered the Summerhill School– which as even Wikipedia accurately states, “is an independent British boarding school that was founded in 1921 by Alexander Sutherland Neill with the belief that the school should be made to fit the child, rather than the other way around”.

I was unpleasantly surprised when, in the course of blathering on excitedly about the utopia of “free” schools to my fellow “freak” schoolmates, a couple of my fellow pot-smoking, Woodstock generation, contrarian proto-intellectual friends and classmates sharply took issue with my high praise and approval for Summerhill– and, by implication, any alternative school that treated students equally and encouraged them all to follow their own curiosity, interests, and dreams.

FWIW, we were all roughly “middle-class” white teenagers– I was urban, they were suburban, but I don’t know if that detail is crucial. Anyway, they calmly but firmly pointed out how dumb and idealistic it was to assume that everybody should be encouraged and enabled to freely pursue their own individual intellectual and philosophical interests.

These critics instinctively made the (pseudo) pragmatic objection that I was unwilling or unable to see that society could never function unless there were a lot of docile, incurious drones around to do (or be made to do) all the grunt work.

Besides, they added, the “free school” approach wouldn’t suit or benefit mediocre minds and complacent Normals only seeking or requiring the basic cognitive skills, training, and structure necessary to pursue a secure and productive occupation and lifestyle. They guessed that many of the products of free schools like Summerhill would crash and burn once they left their exotic free schools and had to cope with making a living in commercialized societies that were not geared to fulfilling individualistic intellects and free spirits.

(They didn’t put it quite that way, but these paraphrases accurately capture their attitude and arguments.)

They allowed that free schools might “work” for people like us, of course– we were Honors Class (aka Advanced Placement) material. But somebody had to sweep the streets, clean the toilets, and do the bookkeeping while the qualified (i.e. innately privileged) people followed their dreams and became self-actualized. If regular schools were somehow magically transformed into “free schools”, they opined, it would be a disaster.

I don’t know why this passing discussion stuck in my mind, but it did. Looking back, I do give my friends credit for seeing things I was too idealistic to take into account at the time– namely, that there was and is indeed a fundamental conflict, or disconnect, between “free” education and the demands of an authoritarian, commodified culture. But they definitely weren’t buying my grandiose rebuttal that even if they had a point, it was “society” that was wrong, not the free schools. 🤔

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 3, 2023 6:15 AM
Reply to  Ort

At all levels at all times (even in the past), double-think is pervasive. Without exploitation, capitalist society would collapse.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Sep 3, 2023 12:49 PM
Reply to  Ort

What occupation one chooses after finishing school–weather Summerhill or a-government-financed indoctrination box–is a moot question. What’s at stake in this case is what’s going on whilst the student is still there, which is a relatively short span of time in one’s lifetime.

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Sep 2, 2023 12:38 AM

The DEW attack on the people of Maui is proven in this video… The powers that be are becoming bolder, and unable to resist playing with their high tech weaponry.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 2, 2023 10:32 PM
Reply to  Captain Spock

For the last two decades I’ve been thinking: “They’ve gone too far this time!” But each incident just becomes a demonstration of the degree of zombification. If they’d wanted merely to burn Lahaina to the ground, they could have made it far less obvious. And they could have made sure the blue stuff also got incinerated (see below for another example).

So they’ve got a DEW device which can heat glass and aluminium to melting point; and steel to the point that it will burn the rubber and wood in which it’s embedded. I’m sure there’s plenty of engineers out there who could figure out what frequency they’re using; and make a reasonable estimation of the power levels. My guess is that it has only a weak effect on water – otherwise too much energy would be absorbed in the atmosphere.

Blue car survives largely untouched while others were incinerated and melted.

Lahaina FIRE – Inside the RESTRICTED Area – The MIRACLE Neighborhood that Survived !!!
Maui Exclusive Real Estate
Aug 30, 2023
Three weeks after the Lahaina Fire… What is inside the restricted area? This video takes a tour of a portion of Lahaina Town that survived the fire. My neighborhood, Kahoma Village, is in the center of all the destruction but it is mostly still standing. Is there any critical information we can gain from looking at the areas that did not Burn? The media is only showing the areas that have been completely destroyed.

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Sep 4, 2023 10:37 AM

Yeah, the anomalies are pretty striking akin to the anomalies of 9/11.

The fact that there hasn’t been a disaster emergency response on the scale which it merits is also very revealing.. More than 1000 children are dead (registered missing which means dead)..

Sadistic callousness is firmly imprinted all over this.

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 2, 2023 12:12 AM

Parents, school, religion, sports teams, patriotism, movie ‘heroes’, work and brand loyalty.
We are RIPE FOR THE PLUCKING.
It takes guts to swim against the current of repetitive, incessant banality.

Boris Batshit
Boris Batshit
Sep 1, 2023 10:50 PM

Dear Proprietors of Off Guardian biweekly magazine, I would greatly appreciate publication of my favourite section, n memes to get you through the week ‐ where n represents an indeterminate number corresponding to the mathematically probable solution to all potential problems likely to be encountered in one 52nd of a year. Yours sincerely, A N Other

Howard
Howard
Sep 1, 2023 10:06 PM

Rather than modeling disobedience, let’s first try to figure out why obedience comes so naturally to most people.

People seem not to just go along to get along but to genuinely prefer obedience. Why else would they wear masks when home alone or on their way to work?

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Sep 1, 2023 10:14 PM
Reply to  Howard

Rather than modeling disobedience, let’s first try to figure out why obedience comes so naturally to most people.

Asleep, brainwashed. Knowing the truth would probably tip most of the obedient to suicide.
Shall we say ‘weak’? or just plain cowards.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 1, 2023 11:56 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

Timid.
The “Oh ye of little faith” group.

That said, faith is extremely demanding. It’s not just a question of saying, “I have faith”, or, “I would do the right thing, whatever the personal cost”.

Sometimes a person’s faith is actually put to the test, and then it’s not so easy to be one of the few who survive that test.

NickM
NickM
Sep 2, 2023 8:14 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church”

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 1, 2023 10:43 PM
Reply to  Howard

@Why else would they wear masks when home alone or on their way to work?

Well they are damn unhealthy for one, scared to death of something for number two, and lastly they are not very bright.

NickM
NickM
Sep 2, 2023 8:37 AM

Some bright PhDs are Believers in Con-19. I have met them, argued with them, and their faith would not budge.

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 2, 2023 11:55 AM
Reply to  NickM

Faith in their paycheck perhaps, or scared to death to find another profession, sign of a definite coward.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Sep 1, 2023 11:07 PM
Reply to  Howard

I think there are several different reasons why people readily wear masks: Obedience / virtue signalling on the one hand; genuine fear driven by mainstream disinformation and people’s belief system; and naked terror of losing their means of survival if they were not to obey. The latter, I think, happened to a lot of people in Australia who were terrorised into accepting masks and injectable drugs lest they lose their jobs and become homeless.

Mainstream culture is built on a Mafia style system of oppression, exploitation and threat of torture or murder.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 2, 2023 7:45 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

A government interferes through violence or the threat of violence. People pay taxes because resistance is useless. Government is ultimately the employment of policemen, soldiers, prison guards and hangmen. – Mark Twain

Raoullo
Raoullo
Sep 4, 2023 8:02 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

There’s also a morbid logic to wearing masks without any signs of dangerous organisms being present that would warrant their use: if one survived the upheaval of going through a ‘pandemic’ when no discernable diseases and no particular symptoms of anything afflicted society, shouldn’t one keep doing what they were doing then–i.e., wearing masks and getting jabbed, even if no pandemic is declared, since everything is exactly similar to when there was a ‘pandemic’? Not applying the same solutions in times when the circonstances are identical would constitute an unbearable cognitive dissonance. Hence, many folks feel proud of being so smart that they are defeating the invisible enemy before every one else, they have maintained the appropriate reflexes and recognized the signs of eminent danger in the face of no triggering stimuli.
If you think that’s crazy, I should point to many other social conventions and reflexive beliefs that are just as crazy–if not more so. Appointing genocidal maniacs as rulers of one’s life, going to college to improve one’s life, believing that doctors can cure diseases, going to war to defend freedom, paying taxes to maintain and improve civilization, etc, etc.

Bryan
Bryan
Sep 2, 2023 8:05 AM
Reply to  Howard

Modelling disobedience as obedience: as I keep saying, there are ~4bn people right now operating economically together in a death-bearing ‘free-market’ as a kakoeconomic necropolitics in which everybody, everywhere is not only situated but anthropogenically generated. You also have the paradox that of those ~4bn, and up to a maximum of 8bn would not agree with this assessment. Therefore the model of disobedience as a reduction to self in imaginary inner isolation is also the model of obedience. Everybody goes to work for one’s owned benefit, one’s owned self-interest, one’s owned ego-entrepreneurial isolation as autonomous economic agent endowed with ‘free will’, ‘free choice’ and so on; whereby the results of one’s owned agency accrue to oneself by merit.

So people live in denial of market economic reality that has ~4bn of the economic species working together on a concrete level and denying that they work together on an abstract level. That is totalitarianism perfected; the same people that are concretely economically totalised are also abstractly self-realised!

That is the Austrian economics perfected as psychic protectionism in introverted isolationism; but also physical market-fundamentalism as extroverted globalism in the same body of the same people at the same time. Abstracted rhetorical disobedience is a disavowal of concrete logical obedience to economically raional principles. The same people who dissent homo oeconomicus are homo kakoeconomicus. The sinister side of which is that all dissent is in fact — or has been so far — reactionary and resentment driven. Full blown psychiatric economics is historically totalitarian, and reborn “palingenesis of the psyche” is renationalised authoritarian populism as actual fascism.

So far: obedience equals totalitarianism; disobedience equal fascism for the psychically possessed (“eudaemonic possession”) human being. The nuance involved to convey or even see this has been a major deficiency in human psychic history. Ditch the psychic possession and degrow ‘free’ market economics prioritising the body as the “market model” not the psyche said hardly anybody in economic history. You might want to check out Karl Polanyi as historical precedent for what I just said, and not von Mises and Hayek that Corbett has cited in the past as his alternative to free-market economics, which is palingenetic free-market economics. Can you see the closed-loop psychology in play? I can, but you risk getting proverbially punched on the nose for pointing out our closed-loop psychodynamics. Once that is the case, thereafter the book burning become body burnings in disobedience of the old cause and obedience to the rebirth as a cathartic palingenesis of the psyche. Thereafter “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss” with diffferent paraphenalia and dofferent rhetoric, but the same logos and rule-governed grammar. The End!

NickM
NickM
Sep 2, 2023 8:12 AM
Reply to  Howard

Because humans are social animals like our chimp cousins; we obey the top chimp, give him our best banana and help his aides to beat up any outcast chimp that the top chimp has picked on.

Human values
Human values
Sep 2, 2023 11:37 AM
Reply to  NickM

People have been brainwashed with that phrase ”humans are social animals”, while in reality we are not animals. We are human. Completely different from animals. No animal can do what a human being can do, not even all the animals can do what one single human can do. We are conscious living beings with a conscious living connection to God.

When people believe they are animals, then they behave like animals, and they can be treated like animals, herded, isolated, and all that crap coming from Evil. When people believe they are less than humans, they have no power to disobey whoever commands them.

Not only has Evil made people believe they are animals, now the Evil thinks it can brainwash people to believe that machines are better than them.

There is also nothing social about believing that people are animals. It is antisocial and antihuman, sociopathic and psychopathic (insane) to comply with Evil.

Yes, we are social beings, but being social means being conscious of our interconnectedness and our connection to true values.

And that’s how we oppose the Evil that is insanely trying to divide us, in order to control us.

We do not comply with our own destruction, dehumanization, degradation or any other means of making us lower, downgrade, demote or decrease us, flatten us, reduce or diminish us, abase, dock and demean us, turn down, mark down or depress us, when we know our value as Humans.  

Bryan
Bryan
Sep 2, 2023 6:53 PM
Reply to  Human values

Humans rejected phylogenesis for ontogenesis; that brought totalitarianism and fascism and then a temporary neoliberal pax americana … so much for interconnected conscious living being.

We do not comply with our own destruction, dehumanization, degradation or any other means of making us lower, downgrade, demote or decrease us, flatten us, reduce or diminish us, abase, dock and demean us, turn down, mark down or depress us, when we know our value as Humans.  

Bryan
Bryan
Sep 2, 2023 6:44 PM
Reply to  NickM

Bonobos don’t, they are far more domesticated. But even if we are more chimp — that was 2Mya; could we not have refined our self-domestication by now!

Victor G.
Victor G.
Sep 2, 2023 7:53 PM
Reply to  NickM

Not this chimp. (paraphrase of Philip Levine, USAmerican poet).

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 1, 2023 10:02 PM

I am here to help you guys too, to help you to wake up and teach you on how you can act and do something. Not tomorrow or next week, but even today! Productively!!
Small scale and big scale. And we have many many problems.

Dont despair, Dr. Manhattan is on my side and your side. You can do it!

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 1, 2023 8:20 PM

Here we are examining the politics of dying, and the dying of politics.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 1, 2023 8:16 PM

Give it a few weeks and the sheep will be lining up for boosters and wearing their masks..

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Sep 1, 2023 10:07 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

And when they awake (If they don’t die) they’ll be on CBDC’s and penned into their 15 min cites, along with the rest of us 🙁

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 1, 2023 11:20 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

“This is here WE stand, and this is here THEY die.”