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My Journey From Illness And Despair Towards Truth

Kevin Smith

An awakening

Whether religious or not, I think many readers here will relate to some of these experiences.

In 2014 I was working for a UK organization which adjudicates financial disputes. The work was interesting, but the organization was going through a structural change which made no sense. Our work began to be micro-managed and woke ideology started creeping into the office.

That same year, I collapsed and was very ill from a major bleed due to a duodenal ulcer. It wasn’t really what is known as a near-death experience (NDA) but during my recovery I felt different spiritually and used the time to reflect on life. Before I hadn’t embraced any one religion but was always open-minded.

In 2017, under a new tyrannical manager, for the first time I pushed back. I documented the bullying and told the organization to leave me alone to do my job. They agreed and, overnight, my stress disappeared and a confidence I’d never had helped me to become a trade union representative, join the organization’s Christian Fellowship and even the Muslim Book Club.

I was always interested in geopolitics and history and attended some outside work events discussing the war on Syria and the part played by the Western media in distorting the truth in successive wars. After my first event, I sensed a cloud lift and a feeling of vindication of my views. I felt destined to write about it all. I published many articles in independent media about Syria, religion, the mainstream media and mental health.

Meanwhile, at work the toxicity increased and while I was coping better, I was relieved to be offered voluntary redundancy to pursue my further research and writing.

After a year’s ‘honeymoon period’ of feeling liberated from the control freaks, the ‘pandemic’ landed. I could see instantly the lockdowns and other measures made no sense, so I researched hard, particularly around the globalists, their secret societies and malign influence on world events. To my horror I realized the world was in the grip of a coup.

So, I started writing about it and by April 2021 suspected there was a depopulation agenda, a deliberate destruction of small business, planned social and economic collapse, demographic engineering, introduction of digital currencies and Chinese style social credit. Also, an agenda to prepare us for climate lockdowns to control movement.

It was also evident there was a plan to further normalize transgender ideology and sexualize children.

© @bobscartoons / Bob Moran

© @bobscartoons / Bob Moran

I learned these agendas are rooted in history and interconnected. The tactics used were to create a crisis, division and distraction then offer a solution out of the chaos. Ultimately, to make us fearful, compliant, dependent and under their control, for example, through food scarcity and orchestrated financial implosion.

Since mid-2021 I’ve thrown myself into more research, including around the Covid injection side-effects. I recently decided to try to put some of my current thoughts in writing. Not because much of this information is not already out there – more so because I think it’s often useful to gather all the moving parts and put them in some order. Many people faced with lies and distraction from mainstream media tend to view events in isolation or within their specific specialism, so the ‘big picture’ penny never drops.

Religious journey

My journey exploring religion was slow at first and I read books like The Case For Christ written by a former journalist and atheist. Based on extensive research the book made a logical case for God’s existence.

In recent months I think I’ve become much closer to God. My journey started more on the evidential side. However, the spiritual dimension now feels much stronger, I believe in part because the global coup is about to intensify soon.

Recently I’ve read and watched dozens of online presentations about near death experience, the bible and prophecies, demonic possession and child trafficking. Things are now much clearer to me.

Anyway, here are a few of my learning points on God and Christianity.

I realized early on there was something wrong with organized religion. Many churches don’t really teach anything meaningful about the Christian faith and are just social clubs for people who want to be ‘saved’. Many churchgoers have the same materialistic tendencies and lack of awareness as the public generally.

My view is that many churches have been infiltrated over many years by some darkness – a view which I think is supported by Catholic Church scandals and locking down churches and using them as injection centers.

So, I made the conscious decision to study and pray at home.

When I feel frustrated or through my curiosity, by prayer, I’m always guided by God to the right answers. God, I think works in the way of patience whereas I wish to know the answers now. But I feel humbled and privileged for the wisdom, intelligence and resolve I receive through God in his time.

I ask a question and it always gets answered in one way or another, often days later when simply stumbling upon it or being able to piece things together. Above all, I feel protected.

During the recent period I think many awake believers have been struggling with negative emotions and not-so-good traits which come from the burden of the disturbing knowledge about the world we now possess. I often feel I’ve sinned by rowing with my family over the injections. But what if I’d said nothing?

It’s a mixture of emotions in play, and often my angry or frustrated reaction to those who can’t see the truth plays havoc in my mind as to whether I’m doing right in God’s eyes. I constantly struggle with this but believe God will forgive us ‘smaller sins’ in the background of the burden and multitude of attacks on us from all directions.

Another thing I grapple with is, “What does God want from us”? A surrender to his power or one where we play an active part? Previously I firmly believed God gives us the tools to change things for the good and if we don’t use them, he might intervene if we’re lucky. Or he might not bother.

I think God changes things in ways unseen or less obvious and through the power he instills in his believers. So, we have an important part to play now. But ultimately, I think believers should place more faith in God and in divine intervention when the insanity coming at us now and in the future may overwhelm us.

The future

I feel I’m at an advanced stage of my journey to the truth and God. My current focus is studying global child trafficking and the film ‘Sound of Freedom‘ reinforces my belief that a cult of satanic weirdos, psychopathic traitors and sexual deviants underpin much of the chaos we are seeing now. Destroying child innocence through various agendas is part of their plan as they see children as closest to God.

Waking a few more people up is our next step, and many have woken. On the horizon are new ‘pandemics’, grid take-downs, controlled financial meltdown, climate lockdowns, war and possibly even a fake ‘alien invasion’.

However, through our numbers, preparedness, wisdom, determination and in God’s armor, we have many things in our favor.

The globalist ‘Great Reset’ and its wide-ranging evil is an ambitious undertaking – too ambitious, I think, and whatever happens soon, it will eventually fail. The question is simply how many of us they take down with them. So, finally it’s important for us not only to wake up, see who and what the enemy is but also to prepare.

© @bobscartoons / Bob Moran

Preparations

These are some of the things I and I’d guess many readers here are doing. They’re not really new ideas but, as a list, might be useful as a sign post to good preparation sites out there.

Learn as much about the modern world and steadily build up your physical, mental and spiritual health. Look for inspiration from the great work of others of which there are plenty of examples on this site and elsewhere. This has helped me immensely in these dark days.

Food scarcity and financial meltdown are in the works. Stock up on essentials and look up prepping sites. Store food with the aim of helping those less prepared. Barter items such as coffee and alcohol will come in useful.

Likewise stock up on medicines such as antibiotics and supplements. For example, it’s now thought the Covid injected ‘shed’ spike protein to the un-injected. For both groups of people, Nattokinase is thought to be useful at preventing and dissolving blood clots caused by the injections and shedding. There are many other supplements which can help with the immune system and with detoxification.

Consider taking as much money out of the financial system as possible into gold and silver. These are a store of value and a hedge against economic collapse.

I keep a sizeable sum of cash at home. In the likely event ATMs shut down during a banking or grid crash, cash will probably be in use for a limited time.

Donate if you can to independent media sites. Right now, they are the barrier between us and further tyranny. Support if you can legal cases associated with the ongoing tyranny and lobby local politicians. Most judges and politicians are bought and paid for by the globalists but there have been some successes.

Gardening and seeds. This is possible even in a small space and is quite easy once you get going.

Think local. Engage more with your community. Co-operation will be essential during a system collapse. Also longer term we may have the opportunity for our own reset, based on local co-operation and decentralization.

Open a bible and apply the passages to what’s happening today. I’ve come across many examples and, in some cases, they provide me with comfort. Watch online presentations and interviews by the few brave church leaders who’ve joined-up the dots.

Importantly do all you can to protect kids from predators in the medical and education system. Unite and speak up at your school boards.

Stand up for yourself. It worked for me as I can attest.

Finally, try to reduce fear for the future using some of the above steps. Ultimately our future will be decided by our creator but during these dark times we should improve ourselves to stay on the path he meant for us.

Originally published via SOTT.net
Kevin Smith is a British citizen living and working in London. He researches and writes down his thoughts on the foreign wars promoted by Western governments and media. In the highly controlled and dumbed down UK media environment, he’s keen on exploring ways of discouraging ideology and tribalism in favour of free thinking.

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Owen
Owen
Sep 7, 2023 4:44 PM

Excellent Kevin, thank you.

Antonym
Antonym
Sep 6, 2023 8:29 AM

We live in the year 2023 Anno Domini; does humanity look good presently?
If not step over Jesus and fast forward 2000 years to the latest Avatar.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Sep 6, 2023 1:48 AM

…- Yeah, that’s all well and good, but,… – Isn’t the Bible basically just some antique superhero comic book?….

(…- PS: – OffG: – WITAF are you doing?… – *SOTT.net*?!… – I’d place them somewhere’s beneath Infowars, and aroundabout the same level as ‘GodLikeProductions’ and ‘PrisonPlanet’ in the honeypot ‘tinfoil-hat-site’ sweepstakes… – *Seriously* – What In The *Actual* Fuck, you guys!!??!?…)

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Sep 5, 2023 4:28 PM

Off topic and late to the party: Came across this on X (Twitter) today, Sept. 5th. An important Malone video statement. Brief two minute video worth your time. Reference to a comparative study of the vaxxed and unvaxxed and the damages done. Not sure how it managed to find it’s way to my account it light of the censorship we are all familiar with. I am sure most of you have heard about Biden’s latest request to fund a new Covid clot shot that he wants everyone to take regardless of his or her (note the pronoun usage) current clot shot status. In his words: “One that works”. An admission that the other ones don’t. All those people killed and maimed and the “Old Man” himself has admitted it was all for nothing. But he is going to fix it with a new clot shot. Going double or nothing to… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 5, 2023 6:01 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

They all give off a blue tooth signal.
Vaccinated show up up on the blue tooth s an as Unknown with an ID number.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Sep 5, 2023 6:35 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Help me. Who is they? Is there a problem with my link? What? Here is a link to the Global Covid Summit home page: https://globalcovidsummit.org/

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 10:10 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

They have these opposite actors to swing the moment the public start to make questions.
Note how everything is confused and diffused. In one way it works, on the other hand maybe not.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Sep 5, 2023 3:51 PM

The only part I would disagree with is giving money to “independent” media sites.
They are part of the system and IMHO, not truly grass roots, embracing of FREE EXPRESSION, and have little tyrants running parts that stifle real interaction of divergent ideas.

You should also add, get out of the big cities, not matter what it takes, or the sacrifice required. Big cities will be death traps, eventually.

Horace Dillingham
Horace Dillingham
Sep 5, 2023 3:35 PM

The most important fact about Christianity is that it’s an otherworldly psyop which convinces believers that there is an “afterlife” in “heaven” if they conform and behave in this world. But, if they don’t behave, they’re led to believe that their afterlife will be in “Hell.” In the minds of believers, Heaven and Hell are other worlds (i.e., not of this world), which is why Christianity is called an “otherworldly” religion. Belief in these tenets is supported by believers’ “faith” that it’s (from Biblical “scripture”) all true even though they cannot see any objective evidence to prove that it’s true. This is in contrast to Christianity’s nemesis, paganism, which is a this-world religion (i.e., there is no “afterlife”). Paganism was the religion of classical antiquity and thus of pre-Christian history’s famous philosophers. Christianity finally conquered paganism in the 4th century AD when it became the state religion of the Roman… Read more »

Bazmac,
Bazmac,
Sep 5, 2023 1:15 AM

People casually dismissing Christianity as nonsense ,and describing believers as gullible are pretty patronising
Assuming they somehow cleverer ,when there not .
The early Christians were prepared face being eaten by lions before denying Jesus Divinity ,I think the book of Acts also shows just what lengths Jesus’s contemporaries were prepared to face ,or were they gullible too ?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Sep 5, 2023 8:15 AM
Reply to  Bazmac,

The reality is that everyone has their own view of the unknowable and what their own personal take home messages are. Christianity is but one option in a mass market place. Islam is significantly different, even more so Buddhism. What both Christianity/Judaism and Islam agree upon is that they are right and that non-believers are inferior. I can’t be doing with that, as it is basically a racist construct. Apparently Christians believe that ‘the ultimate sacrifice’ of one man empowers all mankind in some way or other. There was no such sacrifice in Islam, but apparently the Prophet there is equally all knowing and non-Muslims can be treated disgracefully. And as for the more extreme versions of Judaism, well they are, I’m afraid, master race racists pure and simple. I don’t agree with any Abrahamic religion because all three are fundamentally racist. They are also organised in a way to… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 5, 2023 1:45 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Ism v ism = schism.
= war = chaos = collapse.

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 3:33 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

What both Christianity/Judaism and Islam agree upon is that they are right and that non-believers are inferior. I can’t be doing with that, as it is basically a racist construct.

Then you can never speak of truth, Rhys. Because what you’re implying here is that no one can know the truth. Which is of course, false.

True Christians don’t see unbelievers as inferior. We see you as being without possession of the truth. That’s not a reason to treat you as an inferior, in fact we must love even those we hate, following Jesus’ example.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 5, 2023 6:26 PM
Reply to  Paul

Yes very bizarre interpretation of Christianity. Never heard the word inferior mentioned or even intimated in over twenty years of attending church.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 10:14 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

We have all been there, down the ladder, before we stepped up.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Sep 6, 2023 8:08 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Thanks, Rhys. Lucid.
These monotheistic credos all emerge from the same humus. That is, arid, dry deserts, where scarcity reigns … where hierarchies are necessary to manage the inevitable lack of food. Where one needs to select chosen ones who will survive in this harsh environment.
There’s a reason why they killed Yeshua.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 7, 2023 6:52 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

But its not the unknowable.
God is a living God.
If you earnestly seek Him you will find Him.

semaj
semaj
Sep 5, 2023 8:44 AM
Reply to  Bazmac,

You can’t beat a good old Inquisition to show how much god loves us. If anyone was a true Christian then they could never be happy in heaven knowing there were people in hell. People can believe what they want but no one has a right to force their doctrine on any one else just like the covid lies, its all about control. I believe you do not need religion to believe in a creation or creator. Tell someone there is an all seeing and all knowing invisible he/she/it in the sky and they believe it, tell them the paints wet and they have to touch it to believe it, so sad.

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 9:22 AM
Reply to  semaj

It’s sadder that people have been brainwashed by the culture to be closed off to certain possibilities, things which are easy for God to do.
God can do all things, so a believer in God must admit it’s possible He sent Jesus in order that we know the truth, and can be saved.
But you rely on your human mind. You are clay who thinks himself wiser than the potter.

semaj
semaj
Sep 5, 2023 1:25 PM
Reply to  Paul

Well, I have not seen the creator(s) but still think its a possibility, however, I do not see any evidence, anywhere in the world, that God loves the human race, supposedly his/her/its creation. Like I said, every religion thinks their dogma is right, boy is there going to be a lot of disappointment when the time comes. Thanks for telling me what I am, and you do not even know me. That’s the whole trouble with people that have religion, of any sort, there is no other view just condemnation. I would describe myself as more like Play Dough, I am continually remodelling.

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 3:40 PM
Reply to  semaj

Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”
He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
Matthew 12:38

All you have to do is ask God, and you’ll see the evidence you seek. It’s worked for countless, extremely high-intelligence people.

PS you’re right that most religions will be disappointed. Most are working against God. That’s not a reason to dismiss the truth of Jeshua.

There is truth hidden in a world of lies. So then should we dismiss the fact truth exists, and give up the search?

semaj
semaj
Sep 5, 2023 4:09 PM
Reply to  Paul

I only ever seek the truth which is what my Dad told me when I was watching the Apollo lies in 1969 when he said question every thing.
Sun worship is good, I can see it, feel it, it keeps us alive and its very reliable, it visits me everyday and makes me smile when it s got its hat on.

zenpriest
zenpriest
Sep 5, 2023 9:02 PM
Reply to  semaj

Me too mate. And it led me to Jesus. And realising I could never find ‘truth’ on my own, I prayed to God. And an extraordinary series of events led me to knowing that Jesus is the truth.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 10:49 AM
Reply to  semaj

There’s an excellent book which (rightly or wrongly) says that the merely claimed to exist ‘jesus’ (my posts on this site make it very clear that I am NOT a ‘christian’…) did not exist as an actual historical person, that ‘jesus’ was merely the latest in a long line of non-existent claimed people who were each merely allegorical symbols of the Sun, which was what was ‘worshipped’, in days gone by. They used to refer to the Sun as ‘the Lord’ (‘christians’ should take note of that…). The book is “The Christ Conspiracy: the greatest story ever sold“, by ‘Acharya S’ (the pseudonym of an American woman called Dorothy something [sorry, can’t recall her surname]). There are many other books which write of the same thing: ie, that the ‘bible’ may well be a manifestation of what’s termed ‘astro-theology’: writing in allegorical terms of events which take place in the… Read more »

semaj
semaj
Sep 6, 2023 3:46 PM

I posted this on another subject but there was a pope around the 12 or 1300s that said, and I quote, “this myth of Christ has served us well”. Kind of says it all really for me

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:14 PM
Reply to  semaj

Yes, absolutely right!

And still the ‘faithful’, indoctrinated masses who fall for it don’t see it!

semaj
semaj
Sep 7, 2023 6:43 PM

Not faithful Christine just hard of learning.

semaj
semaj
Sep 14, 2023 5:27 PM
Reply to  semaj

Mmmm, how can a quote be down voted, very odd. Do some research.

semaj
semaj
Sep 23, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  semaj

Down voting a fact, very strange.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 10:23 PM
Reply to  semaj

God says somewhere in the bible, “go and kill everybody old, children, animal, women, men in this town”, and the doos went there and heads were rolling all over the place. Why?

Because the whole city was damned. Every single one in this city was an arsehole and deserved the guillotine. Thats why!

Howard
Howard
Sep 6, 2023 3:20 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Things like this – and it happens quite often in the Bible – more than offset the quaint notion of a “good” God. God is only “good” to certain people, not to everyone.

Oh but wait: that was only until Jesus came along and “died for our sins.” Then God became “good” toward everybody.

Human values
Human values
Sep 6, 2023 3:49 PM
Reply to  Howard

God is and has always been absolute goodness and truth. The Bible is a spiritual guide, not a history book or a mundane law book. Metaphors, allegories and parables must be read and understood in the spiritual context. If the context is wrong in the reader’s mind, nothing can be understood right.

Names and people in the Bible are not actual people, but the names carry a meaning, and people in the Bible are examples of spiritual conduct.

When God destroys Amalekites, God destroys sin. Sin is not-true and not-good and so it is, in fact, good to destroy sin.

The Bible clearly says it is not to be taken literally. Here are some verses about that:

https://www.spiritofthescripture.com/id2292-16-scriptural-reasons-not-to-take-the-bible-literally.html

semaj
semaj
Sep 6, 2023 3:52 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Christians said just that in as many words during the lunatic crusades, kill them all god will know his own. Evil incarnate, lets set fire to someone just because they do not have the same belief, really?

Stewart
Stewart
Sep 7, 2023 9:14 AM
Reply to  semaj

No follower of Jesus ever said that, friend

The “crusades” were not Christian
The knights templar were the first bankers in europe and they worshipped a transgender goat-headed demon called baphomet

” Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.”

Matthew 7:7-8

God bless

semaj
semaj
Sep 7, 2023 6:50 PM
Reply to  Stewart

The crusades were fomented by christians, you know, the vatican with its gold and rich’s obtained by genocide, torture, rape, etc ad infinitum.
Do you know when the supposed book of Matthew was written? Have you read the Have you read and understood Ezekiel?

semaj
semaj
Sep 7, 2023 6:51 PM
Reply to  semaj

Bollocks, predictive text sorry.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:08 PM
Reply to  Stewart

All quiet on the western front, I assume you are trying to get your head around Ezekiel or is that another part of the bible that does not conform to the control matrix?

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:04 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Nothing like turning the other cheek eh?

Binra
Binra
Sep 4, 2023 7:23 PM

The nature of the world reflects the nature of the mind that perceives it. That we have a split mind or nature is evident but masked over and distanced from by a dissociated thinking that can SEEM to run autonomous and yet is dependent on and framed by that which it seeks to deny in Self by projection & attack in the Other. If you are willing to ask a real question of a true desire to know, you are in the field of resonance to receive it. For truth is not denied us so much as discarded or filtered out from a mindset of the wish truth be different (than it is). But the thinking mind seeks to frame and control the means to ‘keep you safe’ from feared truth. That’s what the mask of mind is invoked to function as; a psychic defence system against reliving past trauma… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 4, 2023 7:19 PM

Passivity is not enough. Schools of theology have long-since been invaded by Rockefeller & Skull & Bones operatives. They’ve degraded religious doctrine so that one’s relationship to God is all. Prior generations knew that one has the moral duty to fight for the Good and its empowerment here on earth.

Paul
Paul
Sep 4, 2023 4:31 PM

Amen to all that – and read Tolstoy who has much to say on this subject.

ChronoChris
ChronoChris
Sep 4, 2023 1:19 PM

Can one of the kind contributors to this excellent site please help me understand the following: we are told that Jesus died for our sins. I’ve never understood what this means. Was it a primative blood sacrifice? Thanks.

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 4, 2023 3:25 PM
Reply to  ChronoChris

From experience I know institutions like the FBI prefer to go after and target their own citizens in the name of Jesus.

They know they are church going sinners for doing this, they admit to it, but to remove the guilt associated with their sinning, they say Jesus already died for my sins, so this keeps them sinning in the name of Jesus.

I tried to tell them (my neighbors) no one died for your sins, in the end you will be responsible for your record of sins, they just get mad and move away.

Isn’t religious interpretation a wonderful thing?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 4, 2023 6:00 PM

You’re absolutely right: no-one ‘died for anyone’s sins’, we are, each and every one of us, responsible for our own actions.

Gullible ‘christians’ worldwide, however, have fallen for the abject nonsense which merely claims that a merely claimed to exist person ‘died for their sins’.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 4, 2023 6:09 PM

maybe at least add “in my opinion”, because let’s face it, none of us has a clue how we got here, where we’re going, or what plan for salvation a Creator in his infinite wisdom might have. Your certitude is just as misplaced as the one you are decrying.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 4, 2023 8:06 PM

‘Salvation’ is not something which takes place… it’s simply part of the crazy false doctrine of ‘christianity’. Something which only gullible ‘christians’ fall for. The actual spirit truths just don’t work like that! (see the rest of my post, here) As regards the first part of what you said.. well, on the contrary… for we countless millions of properly-informed Spiritualists worldwide do know ‘how we got here’. As I’ve said in my posts on this (only when the subject matter of the article, or the content of someone’s comment, warrants my mentioning it… as one of the Admin. on this site, you may well have seen some of my posts on this), Spiritualism is the one and only ‘religion’ that is able to absolutely prove what it states. I never fell for ‘christianity’ (I’m a 64-year-old Englishwoman; I believe that you’re American), and as of 1994, I began to learn… Read more »

Human values
Human values
Sep 4, 2023 11:26 PM

Salvation is real. It’s a spiritual thing. I personally was saved from hell, right after I cried for help from God. Jesus means the Savior Spirit of God. Jesus is and always has been, Spirit.

What you write about the immortal soul is quite right. It’s actually what all major religions are saying, too. I mean, the scriptures.

We must be able to see the difference between things, logically. Religion is not a book, a book is not a religion or God, religion is not God, only God is God. Only truth is truth. Every lie is a lie. Jesus is teaching about logic. Jesus is the one Spirit who can heal your body and soul. The word Jesus literally means ”God Saves”.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 8:47 AM
Reply to  Human values

You ‘christians’ are gullible. That’s the sum total of it.

Human values
Human values
Sep 5, 2023 4:19 PM

How can you draw gullibility from what I wrote?

Why are you judging me, Christine?

I am not a Christian and never was, and neither is Jesus who is Spirit. The Spirit of Jesus told me not to go to church, not to join any religion or a cult, and also that reincarnation is, in fact, true.

Well, I then did go to some churches, and I listened to sermons, only to see that Jesus was right.

There is not a single thing where Jesus was wrong, being as close to God as can be.

You should be able to understand these spiritual things since you claim to have knowledge and true understanding of the matters of Spirit.  

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 5:12 PM
Reply to  Human values

You’re absolutely right to say that religions are cults. I’ve told a number of ‘christians’ that, and they don’t like it…!

Yes, I do have a wealth of knowledge and understanding of the matters of Spirit, and yes, reincarnation is indeed true.
Many people don’t like it when I tell them that, either!

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 5:25 PM
Reply to  Human values

I merely assumed that, due to the fact you’d referred to ‘jesus’, that you ‘must’ be a ‘christian’. I apologise.

Nicko
Nicko
Sep 5, 2023 4:34 PM

Careful with your karma Christine.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 6:17 PM
Reply to  Nicko

It will do nothing to my karma, the fact that I despise gullible ‘christians’.

zenpriest
zenpriest
Sep 5, 2023 9:03 PM

That’s ok, we still love you regardless. We must. Your hatred means nothing to us though. Just a demon inside you that must come out.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:01 AM
Reply to  zenpriest

I don’t ‘hate’ ‘christians’; I merely despise them. For ‘believing’ such nonsense.
‘Christianity’ is a man-made religion. To control the gullible masses.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:19 PM
Reply to  Nicko

Karma is from another religion but for certain people we hope its true, many popes spring to mind and not forgetting our wonderful christian so called royal families throughout the ages. Defenders of the faith my arse.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:15 PM

All religions rely on the gullible. If you told these people the word gullible is not in the Oxford dictionary they would believe it and they would not bother checking.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 10:12 PM
Reply to  Human values

From where do you claim to have obtained the ‘information’ that the word ‘jesus’ means ‘god saves’?

Human values
Human values
Sep 5, 2023 11:35 PM

https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Jesus.html

The Bible is not a history book or a playbook. Its words carry meanings long lost in translations. Mistranslations in the Bible are many.

Things have been added and things have been erased.

The original scripture was much better. However, we don’t really need these old scriptures, since everyone is directly connected with Spirit already.

And that’s something that a book can never erase.  

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:04 AM
Reply to  Human values

In your post timed at 11.26pm yesterday, you wrote “The word ‘Jesus’ literally means ‘God saves'”. I asked (sarcastically…) where you obtained that claimed information from. You have not answered my question.

Stewart
Stewart
Sep 7, 2023 9:28 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_(name)

It’s no secret Christine.

Forget about organised religion and the sins of men. We all know what evil is.

Open your heart to Jesus and He will save you, as He saved me and so many others posting here.

It is the most important thing you will ever do.

God bless you.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 7, 2023 10:37 AM
Reply to  Stewart

I am NOT going to “open my heart to ‘jesus'”. As I’ve stated very clearly in other posts, underneath this article, over the last 2-3 days, I want NO part of you ‘christians’ very unhealthy obsession with a person who may or may NOT have existed, 2000 years ago. I am very proud that I never fell for the man-made, control system hoax of ‘christianity’. And am most thankful that I discovered (29 years ago) the proven truths of Spiritualism. Spiritualism being the one and only ‘religion’ that is able to absolutely PROVE what it states (and I am not using the word ‘prove’ either loosely or wrongly). I want NO part in your obsessions. You ‘christians’ have been so, so duped, hoodwinked, and a day will eventually arrive for each and every one of you when you will discover that. And will be ashamed of yourselves for having fallen… Read more »

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:22 PM
Reply to  Stewart

Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and often has been to support a narrative change with false history etc.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 10:53 AM
Reply to  Human values

I overlooked the site ref. which you provided yesterday.
I’ve just looked at it. And find (surprise surprise!!) that it’s merely a ‘religious’ site, and that it is thus merely claiming what is claims is the meaning of the word ‘jesus’.

I thus repeat: ‘christians’ (or whatever you, personally, call yourself) are so, so gullible, so, so brainwashed, so, so indoctrinated!!

judith
judith
Sep 5, 2023 1:44 PM

Well, I had several Roman Catholic nuns who were just as convinced that THEY had the incontravertible truth that Jesus died on the cross to save humanity and that, and I kid you not, only Roman Catholics were allowed into the pearly gates of heaven.
I am not arguing with what you believe is the proven truth. It’s your truth. Which to me is inarguable.
But it’s not my truth. And I don’t think you could convince me of it.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 3:05 PM
Reply to  judith

It’s not merely ‘my’ truth, it truly does happen to be absolutely proven!!! And literally countless millions of other properly-informed people around the world also know that it’s absolutely proven (carry out some extensive, in-depth scholarly research into it, in the way that I and millions of other people worldwide, have done, and then you’ll understand why we know that it is absolutely proven [N.B., and I’m not using the word ‘proven’ either loosely or wrongly, either). Moreover, those countless millions include many properly-informed scientists, doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, lawyers, etc etc., who have also discovered that the actual nature of the immensely illusory event that’s wholly incorrectly termed ‘death’ is so very, very different to what it merely seems to be, when interpreted on its wholly illusory, face-value mere appearance. It’s your choice to ‘disbelieve’ what I’ve stated. However, on the eventual day on which you do what is so… Read more »

judith
judith
Sep 5, 2023 6:26 PM

OK, granted it is a proven truth. No argument from me. But It does not negate other people’s proven truths.
That’s all I’m sayin’.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:55 PM
Reply to  judith

‘Christians’ are not able to prove what they merely ‘believe’.
And neither can materialists prove their false beliefs, either.

Howard
Howard
Sep 6, 2023 3:34 PM

Materialists don’t deal in “beliefs” but in demonstrable facts that can be recorded instrumentally. Granted, human instruments are hardly infallible; but at least they work better than simply declaring something to be true.

Truth, by the way, is not a popularity poll, determined by the number of adherents. Millions of Spiritualists KNOW “the Truth.” So, too, do millions of Believers KNOW “the truth.”

From a materialist’s point of view, both Truths look strikingly similar.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:23 PM
Reply to  Howard

But the survival of ‘death’ truth is a spiritual event; ie, the literal departure of the immortal spirit body from the physical body, at the time of ‘death’. Things that are not physical (but still real) will not be recordable on instruments that are designed merely to record physical, material events/things! No matter what you merely ‘believe’, Howard, it is a statement of absolute proven fact (and I’ll repeat myself yet again, I am not using the word ‘proven’ either loosely or wrongly) that we do all survive (in our immortal spirit body form) the death of our physical body ‘coat’. There exists a veritable wealth of multi-faceted evidences which absolutely prove that! So, on the eventual day on which you do what is so very wrongly termed ‘die’, you will, I assure you, be forced to ‘eat your words’! (You’ll be forced to think “Oh wow, that Englishwoman, Christine,… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 5, 2023 6:33 PM

How wrong can one person be…

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:32 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

You will get one very big shock, on the eventual day on which you do what’s so very incorrectly termed to ‘die’; for when that day arrives, for you, you will discover that the ‘Christian Church’ had indeed told you all a pack of untruths and lies.

It’s not my problem that you’re one of the many, many millions of gullible, brainwashed people on Earth who’ve fallen for the abject nonsense (and falsehoods…) of ‘christianity’.
A day will come, for you, when you will be made to face that you were well and truly duped.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 2:57 PM

I would suggest the shock is going to be all yours Christine!

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:31 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

No, the shock will be all yours. Just you wait and see. I’ll look forward to your profuse apology, when we’re both in the very real Afterlife. For it’s a known fact that once we all return to the proven to exist Spirit realms, literally everyone has to apologise to people whom they’ve wronged, or for any other wrongs they’ve committed. That is a fact. So I will look forward to your apology to me. For (to repeat myself yet again…) the survival of ‘death’ truth, in the way that we Spiritualists worldwide inform people, truly is an absolute proven fact (and again I repeat myself in order to say that I am NOT using the word ‘proven’ either loosely or wrongly). You Christian Fundamentalists are going to have to face the biggest shock. Haha!! When you’ll have to face that you all fell for the false dogma, the false… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:57 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

I wish I could give your post 1 million thumbs-down.

For that is how wrong you are. It will be you despicably indoctrinated ‘christians’ who will all be immeasurably shocked [and embarrassed, that you all fell for a pack of lies and untruths, and ridiculed the actual facts and truths], on the eventual days on which you each do what is so very wrongly termed ‘death’.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:35 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

I wish I could give your post 1 million thumbs-down. For that is how wrong you are. And one day (see my post to you of a few minutes ago), you will be made to realise that, and to face it.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 3:06 PM

A million thumbs down?
Sounds like your hubris is writing cheques your soul won’t be able cash.
Beautiful quote by Herber Spencer would serve you well..
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:40 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Oh, what IRONY! It’s you gullible, brainwashed, foolishly indoctrinated ‘christians’ who should take heed of those wise words, “… that principle is contempt prior to investigation“. If you indoctrinated ‘christians’ investigated, in the scholarly way in which we Spiritualists have done, you would be stunned. For you’d then find that indeed what we Spiritualists around the world is indeed PROVEN. That what we state, re. everyone’s survival (in our immortal spirit body form) of the death of our physical body ‘coat’, and the nature of the very real Afterlife, is the very real truth. And literally nothing which you very gullible, indoctrinated [into falsehoods and untruths] ‘christians’ can say will change that incontrovertible fact. It will indeed be you ‘christians’ who will have the biggest shocks, on the eventual days on which you each do what is so very incorrectly termed ‘die’. For when those days arrive, for each of… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 7:13 PM

Do you believe in Jesus Christ?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:54 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

That merely claimed to exist person may or may not have existed. A day or so ago (yesterday, maybe) I posted (a bit upscreen from here) to someone who posts under Semaj [James, spelt backwards…], referring him to an excellent book called “The Christ Conspiracy: the greatest story ever sold“, by ‘Acharya S’ (the pseudonym of an American woman, Dorothy something; can’t recall her surname). She being one of many NON-brainwashed people around the world who see that it may well be that the content of the writings termed the ‘bible’ are merely allegorical representations of the Sun and its travels round the sky [the ‘heavens’…]. What’s called Astro-theology. For, in those days, many people ‘worshipped’ the Sun… that thing up in the sky. And some of them used to refer to it as ‘the Lord’ (you ‘christians’ should take note of that…). That the content of the ‘bible’ could… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 7, 2023 11:16 AM

Nice word salad.
Do you believe in Jesus Christ?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 8, 2023 1:24 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

For goodness’ sake, I gave you my response to that question a day or two ago. I currently have a temporary problem with my computer keyboard, am waiting delivery of a new one, am currently using onscreen keyboard, so can’t type as rapidly as usual.
I want NO part in you ‘christians’ immensely unhealthy obsession. I don’t give a fig about your ‘jesus’ character. Just accept that.

krasnoslobotsev
krasnoslobotsev
Sep 4, 2023 9:28 PM

So let’s collectively create “(a) plan for salvation a Creator in his infinite wisdom might have.”

Your certitude is just as misplaced as the one you are decrying.

Pot calling kettle “black”.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:34 PM

You cannot say that, its kettle of colour.

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 9:57 AM

God only reveals Himself to those who believe. So as for mocking Christians, you might as well go and tell a mother she doesn’t love her kids. They too will laugh at you and your human arguments.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 12:09 PM
Reply to  Paul

I’m immensely proud to be a properly-informed Spiritualist. I’ve been so for 29 years.
I never fell for the control system hoax of ‘christianity’ (I’m 64 years old).

We literally countless millions of Spiritualists around the world understand that there’s a Supreme Creative Power which created the multi-dimensional cosmos and all life, yes, but that Power is not a person. The latter ‘belief’ being what naive, brainwashed, indoctrinated, hoodwinked ‘christians’ foolishly ‘think’.

Howard
Howard
Sep 5, 2023 3:10 PM

This is off-thread. I plan to research the Shakespeare question we discussed awhile back. But NOT the authorship.

It has occurred to me that, since no claim was made, someone at a later time must have compiled the works – just like the New Testament was compiled long after the events it purportedly contains were over.

Presumably it has already been determined who the scribe(s) was/were. But has anyone gone deeper to determine if perhaps the compilers in effect re-wrote the plays and in so doing made changes to the original? This is what I’ll be looking for.

For me (though perhaps not for professional scholars) this is a new wrinkle.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 4:27 PM
Reply to  Howard

The thing called the ‘First Folio’ was published (in, I think, 1623, but can’t recall, for sure, which year, without looking it up) – that being the first ‘collecting together’ of the so-called ‘Shakespeare’ works.
And, as I said in another post, some days ago, that ‘First Folio’ was funded by the daughters and sons-in-law of Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford!! Why would they have funded it, if Shaksper of Stratford had been the author, huh?? It’s far more likely that they funded it because their father and father-in-law had been the author!

I have an idea (not certain) that one of the writers of the time, Ben Jonson, was also involved in a big way in the production of the ‘First Folio’. He was a friend/colleague of de Vere’s daughters and sons-in-law.

Howard
Howard
Sep 5, 2023 7:23 PM

Do you know where the “hard copies” (so to speak) used for this First Folio originally came from? Had someone at some point transcribed these plays from watching them being performed? That would be the real starting point – not the First Folio itself.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:36 PM
Reply to  Howard

I’m afraid I don’t know the answer to that, Howard.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 12:02 PM
Reply to  Howard

Re. the ‘First Folio’.

Here’s an article about it. However, note that whoever wrote this (on behalf of the British Library, here in the UK) was writing on the mere assumption that ‘Shaksper of Stratford’ was the author of the so-called ‘Shakespeare’ writings.

“Shakespeare’s First Folio”, at:

https://bl.uk/collection-items/shakespeares-first-folio

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:40 PM
Reply to  Howard

Exactly, the hard of learning never understand that 99% of the so called new testament was written down 2-300 years after said events so really its more of a legend. Now the old testament was largely contemporary but christians deny this history as invalid unless one or two passages happen to fit the narrative like the genocide of non believers etc.

krasnoslobotsev
krasnoslobotsev
Sep 5, 2023 4:18 PM

I’m immensely proud to be a properly-informed Spiritualist.

Hubris isn’t spiritual.

“Those that KNOW, don’t say; those that SAY don’t KNOW”

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:41 PM

I’m merely stating a fact. Ie, the fact that I’m one of the literally countless millions of other properly-informed Spiritualists around the world, and am very proud to be one of them.

I’d be thoroughly ashamed of my lack of critical thinking skills, in this incarnation, if I’d fallen for the abject nonsense of ‘christianity’.

I mean, excuse me… the world’s gullible ‘christians ‘believe in’ such things as (to name but three; there are more) ‘born of a virgin’, ‘walking on water’, ‘dying to save everyone’s sins’.

Those three ‘beliefs’ alone demonstrate that ‘christians’ are indeed gullible. Brainwashed. Easily led. Duped. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Need I go on…???

I rest my case.

Howard
Howard
Sep 6, 2023 3:53 PM

You ought not rest your case on only half its contents. There is, in the Christian lore, a reason for the three beliefs you mention.

That reason is the belief in the divine nature of this Jesus character. You can question that part of the belief as well; but you cannot divorce that “cause” (divinity) from its “effect” (miracles).

You can still criticize the entire case (as do I); but you must give the devil (or the god) its due.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:57 PM

It’s not hubris. It happens to be telling the proven truths.



Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 5, 2023 6:35 PM

Yes Pride!!

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 3:08 PM

Satanic influence

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 5:03 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

You actually think that Spiritualism is controlled by ‘Satanic’ influences?? Well, you could not be more OFF the mark.
Spiritualism truly is the one and only ‘religion’ that is able to absolutely prove what we state (and, to reiterate, I am NOT using the word ‘prove’ either loosely or wrongly).

You indoctrinated ‘christians’ who do not possess one genuine spiritual truth between you have a nerve to OH so wrongly accuse the purity and proven truth of Spiritualism to be ‘satanic’.
As I said above, you really could not be more OFF the mark.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 7:20 PM

It’s you saying you hate and despise Christians.
I offer you suggestions to seek and find God.
If you have a heart full of hate I doubt Spiritualsim is the way the truth and the life…
God bless you Christine – you are seeking somehting that’s granted but you are not on the narrow path that leads to eternal life…
Just pray sincerely and ask God to reveal Himself to you.
He doesn’t set difficult terms for those that genuinely seek Him.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 9:03 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Literally everyone has eternal life (including animals, birds, etc; there exists a multitude of evidences to prove that, too), it does not depend on whether you ‘believe in’ your merely claimed to exist ‘jesus’ character.

I want NONE of your ‘christian’ cr*p.
I and the other literally countless millions of PROPERLY-informed Spiritualists around the world know that what we say is the truth. We all have absolute, incontrovertible proofs of that.
Spiritualism is the good in existence. And not the abject nonsense of ‘christianity’, which asks you to ‘believe in’ such things as ‘born of a virgin’, ‘walking on water’, and ‘dying to save everyone’s sins’, to name but three of many NONSENSES.

Quit your Christian Fundamentalist nonsense, for it will NOT work on me.

How many more times do I have to state that I want none of your ‘christian’ nonsenses.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 7, 2023 11:20 AM

Well you will can look forward to continuing your conversation with your creator.
All the best Spiritualsim sounds a real hoot!!

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 8, 2023 1:39 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

You are, if did but know it, mocking the ACTUAL, PROVEN spirit truths. ‘Christians’ have NEVER been told the ACTUAL spirit truths by the UNINFORMED vicars, priests, etc. They are not able to tell their ‘flocks’ (of sheep…) because THEY do not know them! You ‘christians’ will have to face that you all fell for a pack of very evil liies. Whereas what we Spiritualists state truly ARE the proven truths.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 5, 2023 6:34 PM
Reply to  Paul

Exactly.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 3:06 PM
Reply to  Paul

So what did he/she/it look like to you?

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 5, 2023 6:31 PM

Absolutely wrong.
Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you.
God exists…from a previous fully paid up Atheist.

charles kint
charles kint
Sep 4, 2023 7:46 PM
Reply to  ChronoChris

Far more then that;
a once and for all reconnection to heaven
even If we would die thee same horrific way it would not be the same as that sacrifice: a total victory over evil

zenpriest
zenpriest
Sep 5, 2023 9:42 AM
Reply to  ChronoChris

We have all sinned against God. It’s Jesus’ death and resurrection which symbolises the defeat of evil. This atones for our sinful nature. It also proves He is the Son of God.
If God can send His Son, let Him be put to death, and then resurrected, it shows that Satan has no power over God.
It comes down to what you believe. Think of the ending of the first Matrix, Neo realises the bullets aren’t real. So he stops them mid air. He couldn’t do this before because he believed they were real.
So you have to believe in God to earn His salvation. You have to put in wood before you get fire.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 1:09 PM
Reply to  zenpriest

Of course we have not ‘all sinned against ‘god'”. That’s pure ‘christian’ indoctrination. False doctrine. For the gullible, brainwashable masses to fall for, in order to control them. And don’t they just succeed in that, huh!

Howard
Howard
Sep 5, 2023 3:13 PM

I don’t think it’s even a universal “Christian” concept. At a time when I read a lot of Ayn Rand, I happened to mention to my mother than Ms. Rand debunked the idea of “Original Sin.” My mother’s response was that Baptists don’t believe in “Original Sin.”

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 3:25 PM

You don’t know what sin is. You scoff even at its existence, though you are confident we haven’t done it. You are a very confused individual.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 4:18 PM
Reply to  Paul

No, I’m most definitely not ‘confused’. I’m stating the facts. For, unlike you, I never fell for the abject nonsense of the control system hoax of ‘christianity’. The word ‘sin’, in the way that you’re using it, is a word used by ‘christians’, and especially by the Fundamentalist variety. Of course humans have not ‘sinned against God’. I repeat what I said to Zenpriest, earlier: that that (the claim that ‘humans have all sinned against God’) is merely false ‘christian’ doctrine. Ie, it was literally made evil, by the corrupt hierarchy of the evil ‘Christian Church’, in order to control the gullible masses. And by golly, don’t they just succeed!! The many people around the world who fall for the abject crazy evil nonsense of ‘Fundamentalist Christianity’, they being totally unaware that they’re merely demonstrating just how gullible, how brainwashed, how easily led, they all are, to fall for such… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 6:19 PM

N.B., the reason why this post above (timed at 4.18pm today) has been printed is because, at the time I posted it, it went into ‘pending’.
And so, not knowing whether it was just a glitch, or whether it was being censored, for some reason, I posted it again; the second version is below, timed at 5.19pm.

Howard
Howard
Sep 5, 2023 7:13 PM

Surely you must realize that just about everything humans have ever come up with ends up becoming a “control system.” It’s absolutely unavoidable so long as we humans insist on a hierarchic ordering of society. The “ruling” class ALWAYS latches onto anything which it can use to help institutionalize its rule. Apropos of reincarnation and spiritualism, why is it that even after countless reincarnations these spirits never seem to see that? So societies keep falling into the same routine again and again. And if everything the human form is merely reflects the spirit animating it, then it has to be argued that these spirits are not particularly benevolent; and are more interested in observing the playing out of some sort of cosmic game than in enlightening their fellow spirits. It’s all well and good to accept the tenets of spiritualism; but a bit difficult when it comes to evaluating this… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 7:49 PM
Reply to  Howard

By saying that, of spirit beings, you’re actually (without meaning to!) insulting yourself! For it’s an absolute fact that we are all, each and every one of us, an eternal soul/spirit being, who lives many, many different lifetimes.

Souls in the Spirit dimension are the exact opposite of ‘not particularly benevolent’!! How on earth can you continually write such things… without meaning to, you’re insulting yourself. Ie, as the eternal soul/spirit being that you are, and which is, in this lifetime, incarnating as an American called Howard.

Souls in the Spirit dimension are constantly “enlightening their fellow spirits”!! They communicate constantly with many, many people all over the world who possess clairvoyant vision and clairaudient hearing. And, through those people, they transmit many different forms of information: enlightening information of diverse sorts.

Howard
Howard
Sep 5, 2023 9:42 PM

I’m not averse to the idea of Vibrations as factors which affect humans, different Vibrations affecting different groups of people.

Quite possibly people born in a certain timeframe react to a particular set of Vibrations. Some use this dynamic as a basis for various endeavors – particularly artistic endeavors, since artists (i.e., genuine artists) are able to engage with higher aspects of these Vibrations.

I do not, however, regard anything about Spiritualism per se as particularly compelling. This Spirit realm is – I’m sorry to say – very much analogous to the idea of Heaven.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 10:20 PM
Reply to  Howard

Howard, the very real Spirit dimension/Spirit world/Spirit realms is the actual, correct term for what ‘christians’ call ‘Heaven’! ‘Heaven’ (as per ‘christians’ beliefs) does not exist, and ‘Hell’ (as per ‘christians’ beliefs) does not exist. But the Spirit dimension [of this in fact multi-dimensional cosmos]/Spirit world/Spirit realms most definitely does exist!! As you will one day discover (you will, as I’ve told you before, on this, remember the fact of its existence. On the eventual day on which you do what is so very incorrectly termed ‘die’, you’ll return (in your immortal spirit body, with all the exact-same feelings, memories, emotions, thoughts, attitudes, etc, that you have now) to the Spirit realms, and you’ll remember that “Oh yes!, I remember now! We are, each and every one of us, an eternal, immortal soul/spirit being, and we live many lives [on Earth, and in other places in the ultimate cosmos…], and… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 3:15 PM

Oh dear Christine and to think you accuse Christians of being brain washed and you write such drivel.
Try praying to God to reveal Himself to you, that you have an open mind and leave room you could possibly be wrong.
Give it a try for a few weeks and see…
Just leave a small chink in the armour to let Him in.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:49 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

You Fundamentalist Christians are so brainwashed, that it’s pitiful. On the eventual day on which you do what is so very wrongly termed ‘die’, you will discover (obviously to your shock and horror) that what I wrote was NOT ‘drivel’, that I was actually telling you all the proven facts and truths!! And that is when your nightmare will begin, for you will have to face that your ‘Christian Church’ and the so-called ‘bible’ were telling you all a pack of untruths and lies, re. survival of ‘death’ and the Afterlife. What I’ve written on my posts on this all-important subject is emphatically not ‘wrong’. The irony is that it’s what you brainwashed, gullible ‘christians’ merely ‘believe’ that is what’s wrong!! And a day will arrive for each of you when you’ll discover, and have to cope with, that reality. I have less than no desire to be a ‘christian’!!!!!!… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 4:52 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

I wish I could give that post of yours, above, 1 million thumbs-down, too.

zenpriest
zenpriest
Sep 5, 2023 9:13 PM

Waffling on about fundamentalism proves you’re a know-nothing. True Christians are aware of how much of the church is corrupt and false doctrine. That doesn’t disprove the truth of Jeshua.
Sin means ‘off the mark’. So then, what is the ‘mark’? It’s God’s way, how He wants us to be. If we all lived in this way, it’d be paradise on earth.

But we have all fallen short. A good and humble person can admit this, for what person has never lied, or had bad thoughts about others – at the minimum?

So by claiming we all haven’t sinned, you must therefore think lying and having bad thoughts about others is ok. Which says a lot about you. For one, you aren’t spiritual. You just think you are!

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:26 AM
Reply to  zenpriest

You are merely a gullible ‘christian’, who’s been duped into ‘believing’ such things as ‘born of a virgin’, ‘walking on water’, ‘died to save everyone’s sins’. I rest my case that ‘christians’ possess no critical thinking skills. And actually I am spiritual. I’m informed on the truly proven survival of ‘death’ truth and the many associated spiritual truths of existence, and, like the vast majority of the literally countless millions of other properly-informed people around the world, I provide many people with information re. the factual survival of ‘death’ etc truths, so that more people will become enlightened re. the fact that the actual nature of the illusory ‘death’ is so very, very different to what it merely seems to be, when interpreted on its wholly illusory, face-value mere appearance. Being ‘spiritual’ does not mean that one has to be a ‘christian’. The extreme irony is that there is no… Read more »

zenpriest
zenpriest
Sep 6, 2023 11:03 AM

Do you believe in God? As in, a creator? I’m assuming you do if you are ‘spiritual’.
That being so, what is your basis for scoffing at miracles? If we have a creator, clearly He is capable of doing things we cannot. I repeat, you are a confused individual, and full of hubris to boot.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 12:12 PM
Reply to  zenpriest

I realise that there is of course a Supreme Creative Power that created the multi-dimensional cosmos and all life, but that Creative Power is NOT a person (as you ‘christians’ wrongly merely assume). Talking of ‘miracles’, as you ‘christians’ do, is just a lazy way of accepting things which all logic would say is complete and utter nonsense. I repeat, I am most definitely NOT ‘confused’. I am very proud that I rejected ‘christianity’ (at the tender age of 6 or 7, in the mid-1960s. Our blindly-believing mum used to force my younger sister and I to accompany her to church on Sundays [whilst our dad used to stay at home to look after our then baby brother]. I, however, always refused to kneel, or to sing the ‘hymns’. Our mum used to whisper/hiss at me, “Kneel down, Christine!”. I responded by saying “NO, I will NOT kneel down, and… Read more »

Violet
Violet
Sep 6, 2023 6:42 PM

If this creative power is not a person…
then what is it?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 7, 2023 10:54 AM
Reply to  Violet

The Supreme Creative Power is an intelligent Energy. And not a person.

Only extremely brainwashed ‘christians’ think that the multi-dimensional cosmos and all life was created by a person!!!

Just leave me out of the ‘christian’ nonsense. It (‘christianity’) is a control system hoax, to control the gullible, brainwashed masses, with its false dogmas, false doctrines. What a tragedy that the masses who fall for it all do not understand that.

I want no part of the immensely unhealthy obsession which ‘christians’ are involved in, by being ‘christians’. (And I have quite a number of them in my own family… and they know just what I think of them. They know just how much I despise them for their gullibility)

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 5:19 PM
Reply to  Paul

No, I’m most definitely not ‘confused’. I’m stating the facts. For I never fell for the abject nonsense of the control system hoax of ‘christianity’. The word ‘sin’, in the way that you’re using it, is used in that way by Fundamentalist Christians. They don’t realise that they’re falling for a false christian doctrine. Of course humans have not ‘sinned against god’. That’s merely yet another false christian doctrine. It was literally made up, by the evil hierarchy of the ‘Christian Church’, in order to control the gullible masses. And being ‘proud’ is not a ‘sin’. That’s yet another false christian doctrine. I’m indeed very proud of myself that I never fell for the abject nonsense of ‘christianity’, and I’m immensely proud, and thankful (to the spiritually-informed people around the world whose knowledge I researched, in great depth, and thus became properly-informed myself), that I became a Spiritualist in 1994.… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:38 AM
Reply to  Paul

You have deliberately claimed that I wrote something which I definitely did not. Ie, you claimed that I’d “scoffed at its [‘sin’] existence”. When I had not written anything of the sort. Thus, you effectively lied about me.
What I’d said was that the word ‘sin’ is, more or less, a word that has been utilised by ‘the Christian Church’ to demonise ‘ordinary’ behaviours (see my words re. ‘sin’, in a post further down this thread, posted just over 10 minutes ago).
But you claimed that I’d ‘scoffed at its existence’; which is not what I’d written. Thus, as I said above, you more or less lied about me. I do not like being misquoted.

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 3:27 PM

In your own words immensely proud. Another sin. Perhaps the devil’s greatest weapon against God.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:30 AM
Reply to  Paul

Don’t you ‘christians’ see that your comments are being thumbed-down by other readers of this site?!?

zenpriest
zenpriest
Sep 6, 2023 11:05 AM

Don’t you see that means nothing? Rhetorical question – you can’t see.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 1:27 PM
Reply to  zenpriest

It does not mean ‘nothing’. It demonstrates that sensible, NON-gullible, NON-indoctrinated people do not fall for the abject nonsense of [fundamentalist] ‘christianity’. ‘Christians’ are being ‘religious’, have fallen for the ‘religious’ falsehoods. Whereas we properly-informed Spiritualists (and on the eventual day on which you do what is so very incorrectly termed ‘die’, you will indeed discover that what we Spiritualists around the world stated was indeed the very real truth) are stating the absolutely PROVEN truths (and to repeat myself yet again, I am not using the word ‘proven’ either loosely or wrongly. What we Spiritualists state truly is proven). And then, all you indoctrinated ‘christians’ (whether the Fundamentalist variety or not) will have to face, to your chagrin, that you had indeed fallen for a pack of untruths and lies. And you will also all have to face that being merely ‘religious’ was NOT being ‘spiritual’. That only the… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 7, 2023 11:26 AM

Bad news for you Christine, we have ALL sinned against God.
Good news is Jesus made a way for us to be reconciled with Him.
Ask anyone born again that has felt the loving presence and forgiveness of their Creator if God is real.
Seek and you will find…

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 8, 2023 1:44 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

That is an example of what’s called ‘FALSE doctrine’. You will one day have to face the unpalatable fact that you were all well and truly duped.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 8:33 AM
Reply to  zenpriest

Your comment has been thumbed-down [by more than just one person].
I observe that most of the posts by you (Fundamentalist) ‘christians’ are being thumbed-down!

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Sep 6, 2023 8:39 PM

Yes it’s been down voted by a few people which clearly proves God doesn’t exist!!

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 3:11 PM
Reply to  zenpriest

If they are not real then there is nothing to stop or am I missing something?

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 12:10 PM
Reply to  ChronoChris

Sacrificial lamb as in the 4×2 doctrine.

Bryan
Bryan
Sep 4, 2023 12:50 PM

Degrowth to self-empowered localisation: then ditto much of the above. There is the small matter that if we all do so alone; well, having a stash of gold will get you murdered. There is still the vanishingly small chance of some sort of “consciousness shift” and there are signs of ecological resurgence. Nobody can do this alone, ‘we’ need to raise awareness and make a positive case for ecological relocalisation. There seems to be quite some antipathy for living in the general community. The whole fucking ethos of civilisation was greed overcoming need. That’s definitionally evil (privatio boni — privation of the good of life). Small agroeconomic communities with connection to each other and to the earth. Fucking hell, with every mention it seems like the idea was akin to rape or murder. We were born into a world of institutionalised greed, hatred and totalised delusion, but we do not… Read more »

j d
j d
Sep 4, 2023 12:38 PM

God and religion are not the same thing. The mysteries are accessible to those of mankind; however only if we have “eyes to see, and ears to hear”. If we take the Bible as literal then no. As Bill Donahue of Hidden Meanings says in his “The Bible is Not A Literal Book” lecture – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKcnK_qGFUk: “The point that I tried to make this morning to the people is that the Bible is not a religious book. There is no religion, there’s no spirituality in it, actually the Bible is a book of psychology. It’s a book of cosmic psychology, but hidden behind all of these ancient words are clues to the development of the human mind, and it’s very interesting for you to understand.” I, have recently been reading some of the teachings of the Bulgarian Mystic Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov, and have barely scratched the surface, however in his… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 4, 2023 11:21 AM

AN AWAKENING. What is that? 3 A’s is 3 all seeing eyes. W and E is 33.
On Sep 3, 2023. Why on Sep 3, 2023? Again we see 33. September is 9 on its head 6.
Sorry guys you cant fool me!

Matt Black
Matt Black
Sep 4, 2023 11:52 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

quite, I count 3 eyes and a peacock from the home page

perra verde
perra verde
Sep 4, 2023 11:02 AM

I can’t believe this bollocks has been published by the off guardian. I thought you were a bastion of sanity and now you’re letting the wooh merchants write their nonsense? Pffft.

Will - Admin3
Admin
Will - Admin3
Sep 4, 2023 1:30 PM
Reply to  perra verde

Someone writes something inane like this beneath every article we publish.

Your criticism has been noted, and our complaints team shall endeavour to refund you your wasted time.

Will x

Howard
Howard
Sep 5, 2023 7:19 PM
Reply to  perra verde

What sort of articles do you consider sane versus the articles you consider nonsense?

When you consider that many, if not most, of OffG’s commenters have a rather pronounced religious/Christian perspective, an article like this one is not out of line at all.

I don’t share their beliefs at all; but I at least understand that this is not my personal blog, tailored to meet only my perspective.

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 10:39 AM

The problem is – what god is the author talking about? If you really take your time to study the conspiracies of this world, you will probably find out that our Bible – the basis of all Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) – is the biggest conspiracy ever! From manipulation of ‘data’ – that has been going on since the early periods – to ‘dangerous information’ being supressed from its pages; it appears to me we have a multifaceted ‘god’ that we don’t know exactly if he cares about us, humanity, or just a few elect who are ready to worship him. I call myself “gnostic” because my intention is to know-god – I am not exactly a person of faith. And I can see many different gods in the Bible. A gnostic approach would say: I see many ‘aspects of a demiurge’ – a creature who don’t really care… Read more »

Heather
Heather
Sep 4, 2023 3:59 PM
Reply to  Anoush

You make some interesting points. Since you are gnostic, I’d recommend the book, Not in His Image, by John Lamb Lash. He makes a devastating critique of the Abrahamic religions and their pyrrhic, otherworldly Salvationism. Along the way he discusses alien intrusion, allegedly revealed in the Nag Hammadi Codices. He is also not with the official Covid narrative at all.

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 8:28 PM
Reply to  Heather

Thank you, I will check it out!

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 4, 2023 9:11 AM

YES!
and ACIM, though there are different interpretation.
i tend to listen to michael mirdad, and britney shawley.
it’s all about love/forgiveness.
indeed we must forgive EVERYbody, and ourselves, to get to where we need to go.

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 11:03 AM
Reply to  sabelmouse

I don’t think ‘forgiveness’ is something up for us. You can ask people to forgive themselves, or ask god to forgive them, but you can’t really ‘forgive’ anyone. That’s the ultimate act of pride and hubris.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 4, 2023 4:16 PM
Reply to  Anoush

ok.
obvs you always need the help of the holy sprit.

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 8:29 PM
Reply to  sabelmouse

Perhaps.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 5, 2023 9:24 AM
Reply to  Anoush

i work with that a lot. this book is useful
https://michaelmirdad.com/books/the-book-of-love-and-forgiveness/

krasnoslobotsev
krasnoslobotsev
Sep 4, 2023 9:35 PM
Reply to  sabelmouse

I am not forgiving the Medical Industry or any of its proponents.
They can only take responsibility and forgive themselves and apologize, while facing very long prison sentences.
They will never be trusted again.

Human values
Human values
Sep 4, 2023 11:42 PM

Satan, the spirit of lies and deceit, is not forgiven. Souls are the ones who are forgiven. And rightly so.  

Sofia
Sofia
Sep 4, 2023 8:32 AM

If you can afford it stock up on tinned sardines and grow easy stuff like greens onions garlic and potatoes, do it with others for fun and support this can be done even with little space. But I do sometimes wonder about the survivalist stuff in a way it is quite pessimistic. One of many things the last 3 years has shown me is that when things get tough good people step up and fightback in very creative, community focused ways. People find a way to survive together.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 4, 2023 9:12 AM
Reply to  Sofia

balance between accepting the illusion and working on the material and work towards realising reality.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 12:00 AM
Reply to  sabelmouse

For this you need a reserve of at least 30 packages of spaghetti. A sack of unions too. You cant face a new reality without unions.

Paul
Paul
Sep 5, 2023 10:00 AM
Reply to  Sofia

Exactly. Survivalism makes people hide away in fear. I’m alright Jack. Fearful of the outcome you’re almost hoping will come (otherwise all this $$ I’ve spent is wasted!!). Whereas we should do the opposite. Trust in God.

Sam
Sam
Sep 4, 2023 8:14 AM

Gardening and growing your own food is NOT easy until after you’ve had years of experience, and it’s pretty clear that the author isn’t engaged in this practice even to the point of herbs growing on a window sill.

On top of just growing fruits and vegetables, there’s also the matter of STORING them. Otherwise, the only time you’ll be eating is during the summer.

Luckily, there’s plenty of solid advice available for free on these topics, but let’s not just pretend that a single, throwaway sentence covers just how much WORK growing and storing your own food really is.

Camille
Camille
Sep 4, 2023 10:31 PM
Reply to  Sam

I believe water will be scarce soon..and without water you can’t grow things in your garden ( I believe).The citizens of Mayotte are currently having their water rationed ( It is part of the French state) . I believe that they only have drinking water every 3 days. People in France are talking a lot about it becoming a necessity in the future to ration water. There have been a lot of protests in France about a project relating to some ‘ mega bassines’ in Deux Sevres ( Aquitaine in France). The govt banned the protest movement but the ban was recently overturned by a court. I must admit I don’t entirely understand the issues involved ..but it could well be that the French govt like the rest of the Weffy West are not acting in the interests of the common person.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 12:05 AM
Reply to  Camille

A 20′ foot container with a water treatment plant can pluck out 500m3 water a year from the humidity in the air. Average 100m3/family/year.
You can collect rain in reservoirs. Clean it with charcoal and filter stones, silver coin or chlorine.
You can take Seawater and boil it, the evaporation will be drinking water you can clean the same way.
Only your public water is limited bs.

Matt Black
Matt Black
Sep 4, 2023 8:14 AM

It turns out Jesus was right again, for centuries the bible acted as a guidebook for natural law to counter these self-worshipping sodomites running amok for sport.

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 10:47 AM
Reply to  Matt Black

Was Jesus also right when he said: “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her” – or perhaps yourself never ‘sins’ – and feels that you have the right to cast stones at sodomites.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 12:10 AM
Reply to  Anoush

But the sodomites are witches. I am without sin so let me throw the first stone. I cant take witches.

Hele
Hele
Sep 4, 2023 5:41 AM

Thank you.But,Uhgg.Here we go again with barter, food scraps and lights out and aliens.
I can’t take it-the rubbish lies and plotting by the mental evil people.
And,I can’t believe in god.I’m happy for you-but from the outside it looks like a default reaction and plug to stop the madness from seeping in.I’m moved by something, but it’s not Religion.

Antonym
Antonym
Sep 4, 2023 5:26 AM

Try “The Adventure of Consciousness” by Satprem for a glimpse of Sunlight behind the Storm clouds. The present world crisis even has a function in the bigger play.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 4, 2023 8:37 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Psychopaths and thugs have always had a function. This is analogous to the ~20% useless or even harmful microbes in the human gut microbiome.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 4, 2023 5:08 AM

The Chinese social credit system was actually imported from the US, where it was initially implemented by America’s large corporations. See Alison McDowell’s page, search under “Chinese social credit.” “People have been worked up over “social credit scores” for months, pointing fingers at China, when predictive profiling for credit ratings and threat scoring originated in the Bay Area in 1956 with two Stanford alumni [link]The system is hungry for data about what makes us tick now and in the future. Marin County Promise, a StriveTogether collective impact affiliate, supports AB2517. Larry Rosenberger, board treasurer[link]and head of the finance committee, led FICO throughout the 1990s. He participated in StriveTogether’s 2019 Social Emotional Learning Taskforce [link] This is part of competency-based education. For the soul-killing future they have planned for tele-op robot operators, they need badges / tokens to indicate which workers are resilient, disciplined, obedient. I suspect aggregated SEL data is highly predictive.”… Read more »

Big Al
Big Al
Sep 4, 2023 3:47 AM

Is this like a God blog now? Seems weird considering that’s the biggest scam of all and most people here seem to understand the big scams and the value of facts, evidence and proof. But it seems clear now based on the last number of articles. What’s that called, cognitive dissonance? Religion does that.

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 4, 2023 6:21 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Religion and science ask the questions.
Only Love and Truth provide the answer.

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 4, 2023 9:05 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Dawkins was the chosen vehicle to push atheism but he’s become the classic example of the child devoured by the revolution he was once part of. The big problem is that no human society has ever been found that was devoid of spirituality. It seems hard-wired into humanity. Science has never been able to create life out of nothing. Macro-evolution also cannot be said to have been proven to any sort of scientific standard. Atheism has no scientific basis and is much an article of ‘faith’ as anything else. It’s curious how trans- activists try to have it both ways. On the one hand they deny creation – but on the other they argue the dumbass demi-urge trapped a soul in a body of the wrong sex. Therefore there are souls?… All mainstream religions are now thoroughly infiltrated (they probably have been for centuries but that’s more debatable) and their… Read more »

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 11:00 AM
Reply to  Edwige

I like your comment, but I think you should not try to disassociate anything that is happening today (including the Globalist wet-dream of a One World Religion) from what has been known previously. Christianity, for example, is universalist (a ‘One World Religion’). The word ‘Catholic’ means ‘Universal’. And Lucifer has nothing to do with Satan – I am afraid this is also a psy-op. I think Lucifer has something to do with planet Venus (the morning star – a title that Jesus adopts for himself in the book of the Apocalypse). Satan – ‘the adversary’ – is an entity, but also a title – ‘the one that refuses to accept’, the one ‘who questions’ – so, there is something very ‘satanic’ about going against the ‘Great Reset’ as well. Not saying that ‘satanic’ is positive, but it can be essential to understand why there are crazy fanatics inside ‘Christian-alt-right’ circles… Read more »

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 10:50 AM
Reply to  Big Al

It’s very ignorant to believe that Religion is somewhat different from Politics. You could say religion is the “mother of all politics” – as it has been active in our ‘democracies’ since the Enlightenment. Also, you would be surprise to learn that the Vatican has been doing politics for millennia – so, what’s the point of ignoring it?

Big Al
Big Al
Sep 4, 2023 3:39 PM
Reply to  Anoush

where did I say I believe that religion is somewhat different from politics? I’m not getting your point.

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 8:40 PM
Reply to  Big Al

“What’s that called, cognitive dissonance? Religion does that.”

Why does religion makes you feel in ‘dissonance’? The word itself means ‘re-connect’. Politics does aim to manipulate your cognition, but religion should be the remedy against that (read: a cognition that isn’t rational, or natural – but ‘super’ human).

Perhaps we are connecting with something else right now – I mean, like, the internet – and this has caused us to miss other ‘connections’ with something else, more essential (like, religion – or nature).

dom irritant
dom irritant
Sep 5, 2023 8:47 AM
Reply to  Anoush

it also means to bind or re-bind

judith
judith
Sep 4, 2023 12:44 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Believing in God, or having faith in a power greater than oneself does not necessitate Religion. Religion is a human construct with commandments, protocols, traditions.
Having a spiritual connection to something greater is altogether different.
I couldn’t live without it.

Big Al
Big Al
Sep 4, 2023 3:38 PM
Reply to  judith

Sure it does. It’s a belief in a made up God, that’s what all religions are. Even if it’s just within yourself and you don’t follow a particular established religion, that’s still your religion. Look up the definition of religious.

Human values
Human values
Sep 4, 2023 11:50 PM
Reply to  Big Al

You look up the definition of religion!

Religio: re-bonding with God.

What the liars say is always false. Pharisees.

Big Al
Big Al
Sep 5, 2023 3:55 AM
Reply to  Human values

I did. What’s your point? Prove to me there’s a god.

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 5, 2023 2:40 PM
Reply to  Big Al

The proof is there, (who named the colors, critters, plants and trees and most all things? Not humans, but by the time you convince non believers, its too late for them, but the cycle of non belief continues on.

I mean who wants to believe that people were put on Earth to suffer, there is a lot of proof that this is true, but we always have the right to not believe.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 5, 2023 12:13 AM
Reply to  judith

The Commandments are only a guidance for those who were not able to follow them.

STJOHNOFGRAFTON
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
Sep 4, 2023 3:04 AM

Matthew 7:13-14

English Standard Version

13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy[a] that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Your observations on organised religion confirm what is said in Matthew 7:13-14. A painting by Hieronymus Bosch in 1516, The Haywain Triptych is allegorical for the road to Hell and shows representatives of organised religion on that broad highway. For an illuminating analysis of the main theme of this painting here’s the link:
http://visual-arts-cork.com/famous-paintings/haywain-triptych.htm
The broad highway to Hell represented here is the antithesis of Matthew:13-14.
However, if you have entered through that narrow gate to Eternity with Jesus Christ then God’s Holy Spirit lead you there. No one else, not you yourself, nor any earthly organisation can do that.

Horace Dillingham
Horace Dillingham
Sep 4, 2023 1:54 AM

About religion, tt should be remembered that many, or most, hospitals are owned by churches, especially in the U.S. All hospitals in the U.S. were and probably still are requiring their employees to get Covid jabs. The first hospital in the U.S. to mandate Covid shots for all employees was Houston Methodist hospital in Texas. It’s owned by the Methodist church. Locally, where I live, Sacred Heart (Roman Catholic) hospital paid for daily Covid scare reports on TV and exhortations for everyone to get their Covid shots. Although each of our local hospitals paid for lots of Covid propaganda, Sacred Heart seemed to be the most enthusiastic about promoting the Covid scam. It’s obvious that, as owners of many hospitals, churches are deeply involved in the Covid scam, so I’m perplexed that anyone who’s adversely affected by the scam would recommend religion as a means of finding comfort. And don’t… Read more »

Anoush
Anoush
Sep 4, 2023 11:01 AM

Universities too. Many are owned by the Catholic Church in Catholic countries.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
Sep 4, 2023 11:12 AM

I remember the Pope saying people should not come to Easter Mass. Instead they should turn on tv at home and watch him perform Mass in St Peter.
I saw catholic nuns walking about with masks coming and going to the hospital they work in.
I remember a staff member of the Bavarian Red Cross telling me it wasn’t possible to take in my old mum for a rehab stage after being in hospital. They wouldn’t take in the unvaxxed. Her voice was dripping with schadenfreude. The Church has been infiltrated, no doubt.

Ort
Ort
Sep 4, 2023 7:37 PM

One doesn’t have to be a libertarian or a fan of “The Epoch Times” to appreciate this relevant commentary:

Who Best Avoided the COVID Religion?* by Jeffrey Tucker
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* FYI, the link is to a blog that republished the commentary, since the “Epoch Times” site complicates access with subscription requests and/or a paywall.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 3:24 PM

Some churches and cathedrals in the UK shut to worshippers but opened as jab centres. God moves in mysterious ways indeed to show how much he loves us. Did not Jesus apparently say, be in this world but not of this world, what happened there then??

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 4, 2023 12:42 AM

I had an NDE more than fifty years ago. NDEs are extremely unsettling. That’s when my spiritual search began.
First l embraced Christianity because it was the closest and most convenient religion.
Then l embraced the other ‘spirit’- alcohol.
Through my addiction l continued to search.
Hinduism, Buddhism, philosophies, anarchism and consumerism.
All fodder for my
mind, but not my heart.
Then l discovered the mystics.
The first thing a real spiritual teacher will say to you is: ‘Don’t believe anything l say. TEST IT IN YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE’

NickM
NickM
Sep 4, 2023 8:10 AM
Reply to  Johnny

“Test everything. Hold fast to what proves good” — Bernard Shaw, Revolutionists Handbook.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 4, 2023 12:31 PM
Reply to  NickM

GBS was a monster.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Sep 4, 2023 8:12 PM

I don’t truly know anything about George BS’ private life, but presume that you know something, definitively: so could you amplify upon that, please.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Sep 4, 2023 12:37 AM

A very interesting piece that mirrors my own awakening in some crucial ways! I realized early on there was something wrong with organized religion. Many churches don’t really teach anything meaningful about the Christian faith and are just social clubs for people who want to be ‘saved’. Many churchgoers have the same materialistic tendencies and lack of awareness as the public generally. That’s been my experience with organized religion, too. Personally, I am much more likely to get the ‘God vibe’ when I am alone — especially in nature. My view is that many churches have been infiltrated over many years by some darkness – a view which I think is supported by Catholic Church scandals and locking down churches and using them as injection centers. Just remember: it was organized religion that killed Jesus of Nazareth. Why put your faith in churches when you can put your faith in… Read more »

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 4, 2023 12:48 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

They are acquired in your dreams, stored in your head, and used once you comfortably wake up in the morning, this looks like its going to be gravy.

Arnold
Arnold
Sep 3, 2023 10:41 PM

You poor lad.
Jesus and the Third temple of doom moshiach mindcontrol is what you now been radicalized, probably via the Christian conservative alt media that sing£ and dance$ to the M.I C.
Basically you had a slight awareness then got mindcontroled into Jesus and the Third temple of doom moshiach mindcontrol cult…. the worse of the lot.
I hope you find your way back as you sound like your in despair still, rather than truth.

Iguana
Iguana
Sep 3, 2023 11:27 PM
Reply to  Arnold

The point is to find some means to connect to higher Spirit. I don’t view Christianity as the only way, but in terms of access to spiritual fellowship, it is the most convenient for most people living in Western countries, especially if you live in the suburbs or exurbs.

I don’t think the author is naive to the corruption that exists within religious institutions. But Perfection is the enemy of the Good: if you want to build meat-space community with people who are sensitive to Spirit (or at least aspire to such sensitivity), you have to make do with what is available.

semaj
semaj
Sep 4, 2023 8:00 AM
Reply to  Iguana

Question everything is the way to truth. So here’s one, why does every religion think they are right?

Human values
Human values
Sep 11, 2023 9:06 PM
Reply to  semaj

Why doesn’t a man understand that religion is not God?

Howard
Howard
Sep 3, 2023 9:52 PM

Old Habits Die Hard –

As an atheist, I cringed several times reading this essay. Not for anything you might imagine though.

As a child, in Catholic School, I was taught that whenever using the personal pronoun referring to God, you must always capitalize the “H” of “His.” I always do that; it’s an automatic response.

And I still cringe whenever I encounter “His,” when referring to God, with a lower case “h.”

Old Habits Die Hard.

Matt
Matt
Sep 4, 2023 12:34 AM
Reply to  Howard

Atheism.
Just another Old Habit.
A dogma, is a dogma, is a dogma.
Let sleeping dogmas lie.

Howard
Howard
Sep 4, 2023 3:48 PM
Reply to  Matt

Is there anything which isn’t dogmatic? Every idea generated, if it sticks at all, eventually degenerates into a dogma.

Human values
Human values
Sep 11, 2023 8:59 PM
Reply to  Howard

There’s nothing dogmatic in the truth.

The plus side: truth can be known.  

Human values
Human values
Sep 11, 2023 9:03 PM
Reply to  Howard

”As a child, in Catholic School, I was taught that whenever using the personal pronoun referring to God, you must always capitalize the “H” of “His.””

I don’t use masculine pronouns for truth or the Spirit of Truth.  

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 3, 2023 9:33 PM

The advantage of a religion is that it presents a positive doctrine by which to live. The secular view doesn’t, even though it often turns out to be parasitical on religion. A demonstration of this happens in the Simon Pegg movie “Paul” in which the titular hero is an alien met by two comic book geeks. The three of them stumble on a Biblical fundamentalist father and daughter and there are predictable ensuing “culture clashes”. Paul is an atheistic really cool dude who could be taken to represent that hippie liberal mentality. However, he is clearly a stand-in for Jesus since he can cause the blind to see, heal the sick and even resurrect the dead. He can do all this because he is an alien and so the audience assumes he has some kind of “scientifically verifiable” power. But it’s just an update on the old miracle working. Note… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 4, 2023 8:53 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Largely agree, except for the “positive contribution”. What religion contributes without fail is programming, fear, hatred and dehumanisation – all requisites for you to accept your mission to to convert or slaughter designated enemies. Don’t forget your contribution of money before you set out on that mission.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 4, 2023 4:24 PM
Reply to  mgeo

I never said “positive contribution”. I said “positive doctrine” by which I mean substantial doctrine i.e. one that offers actual claims about the world and humanity and supplies a code of ethical behaviour that goes beyond, “Just let it all hang out!”

Balkydj
Balkydj
Sep 4, 2023 8:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George: this is EXACTLY why I got into trouble with SAM, a while back, because you constantly fucking talk about the Trans-Gender issue EVEN on a thoroughly well researched article from Whitney Webb … on exactly the subject of child abuse, about which I have many varied stories to tell, that involve Military intelligence and their corruption of political decisions, to the benefit of the M.i.c. ! Try researching the case of Gary Hoy & Co. at his orphanage in Ireland, just for starters: Let me assure you I know how this shit began back in the 1930’s & 40’s and have family & friends experience of this, from Private/Public schools, including one directly adjacent to Lord Louis Mountbatten’s Estate in Romsey. I could not give a tinker’s cuss what you and Sam think, anymore, because your levels of Focus & Concentration on the core issues and root of the… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 4, 2023 9:30 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

“I shall never respond to you again, I promise !”

Thank fuck for that!

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Sep 3, 2023 9:29 PM

“Open a bible and apply the passages to what’s happening today. I’ve come across many examples and, in some cases, they provide me with comfort. ” I also urge people to learn to be still, meditate and listen to/for their own inner higher power/wisdom. We must learn to discern amongst our own innate Divinity, the random thoughts that fly in and out of our consciousness and the weaponized propaganda we are subjected to 24/7/365. There is too much religious dogma and doctrine externally imposed on the Bible to support the agendas of the various denominations, sects and cults that use it as the ‘Word of God”. At its core the Bible is not a novel or a unified book. It was cobbled together by men with their own political agendas. The Bible is about psychology (the psyche, the Soul) and experiencing “God” for one’s self beyond the material senses/situations/institutions. Remember… Read more »

Human values
Human values
Sep 3, 2023 9:24 PM

”But ultimately, I think believers should place more faith in God and in divine intervention when the insanity coming at us now and in the future may overwhelm us.”

Absolutely! God is capable of this: changing anything or everything.

And the plus side: God is absolutely good.

The All-Knowing All-Powerful Mighty God is paving the way to freedom.  

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 4, 2023 12:51 AM
Reply to  Human values

Lets hope the kids get the message, otherwise its going to be a very bumpy free doom ride.

Grafter
Grafter
Sep 4, 2023 10:43 AM
Reply to  Human values

Where was God when good people were standing in a line waiting to be gassed at Treblinka ?

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 4, 2023 12:36 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Do you have proof ? Or is it a belief based on faith ?

James Sinclair
James Sinclair
Sep 4, 2023 6:49 PM

Proof for ?

Violet
Violet
Sep 4, 2023 1:04 PM
Reply to  Grafter

It was a transit camp.

James Sinclair
James Sinclair
Sep 4, 2023 9:32 PM
Reply to  Violet

History ain’t your strong point. It was an extermination camp.

Violet
Violet
Sep 5, 2023 11:27 AM
Reply to  James Sinclair

Nice weather in Tel Aviv?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 9:11 PM
Reply to  Violet

That is such a nasty thing to say; such a nasty insinuation.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 5, 2023 9:10 PM
Reply to  James Sinclair

Yes, there are plenty of proofs of that. Some of the few surviving Sonderkommando[s] (ie, those who worked in the gas chambers) have left documentation on what went on; some of them wrote books about their horrific experiences (I’ve read books by two Sonderkommando). And a doctor who worked with the evil Mengele wrote a book about what went on, too. Can’t recall his name (I think it began with an N and ended with an I; seven letters in the name).

People who claim that the Holocaust didn’t take place should be ashamed of themselves.

petunia petherington
petunia petherington
Sep 4, 2023 1:08 PM
Reply to  Grafter

holocausthandbooks.com

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 6, 2023 2:46 PM

You Holocaust-deniers should be ashamed of yourselves.

semaj
semaj
Sep 11, 2023 3:29 PM
Reply to  Human values

Our unelected prime minister is a Hindu whom god has presumably placed as he/she/it is all knowing and all seeing. Please explain.

Human values
Human values
Sep 3, 2023 9:03 PM

”“What does God want from us”?

That we live a sinless life.

In order to do that, we must definitely know what sin is, also what it isn’t. Confusion in this must be cleared.

There’s only one sin and its name is godlessness.

When with God, no sin. When not with God, sin.

It’s definitely a spiritual matter. Only Spirit can solve it, knowingly, so we can totally trust the good will of God.

RangerDanger
RangerDanger
Sep 4, 2023 5:56 AM
Reply to  Human values

If Jesus died on the cross to produce a bunch of people who cannot sin, then He failed. But, if Jesus died to produce a bunch of people who will never be punished for sin ever again, He succeeded. The sin problem was taken care of, we had a death penalty, Jesus became sin even though He knew no sin, so that we could be made forever right with God. It’s a gift we receive by faith, not by performance. We just have to “consent” to be saved. The institutional church has beyond buried the lead on this one by focusing on sin! “God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through Him.” (John 3:17).

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 3, 2023 8:36 PM

Jesus was never a Christian.

And

God needs no money.

Arnold
Arnold
Sep 3, 2023 10:38 PM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

Bingo

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 4, 2023 12:38 PM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

Jesus never was.

Tom
Tom
Sep 3, 2023 7:55 PM

This is more pure nonsense. There is no virus. Nil, none, nada, etc, etc, etc. Stop this nonsense please.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 3, 2023 8:58 PM