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The Schizotocracy, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The New Normal Reich

CJ Hopkins

Well, 2023 is almost in the books, and things couldn’t be going better for the New Normal Reich. It’s been a long, strange seven years, but we’re finally back to the Global War on Terror, which, as you may recall, was abruptly preempted in 2016 by the War on Populism, which, as you may recall, was abruptly preempted in 2020 by the Apocalyptic Pandemic, which, as you may recall, was what ushered The New Normal Reich into being and brought us full-circle.

Anyway, here we are, back in The Global War on Terror, or the War on Horror, or The War on Whatever … Islamic terrorism, Russia, Trump, disinformation, racism, hate speech, conspiracy theories, anti-Semitism, anti-vaxxerism, transphobians, Communists, cultural Marxists, radical wokesters, the Cult of Musk, neo-Covidians, Zionazis, climate-change deniers, decapitated baby rapers … it doesn’t really matter. Pick an enemy and join the Roman Orgy of Hatred!

The schizotocracy couldn’t care less which side of whatever you think you are on.

Yes, that’s right, “the schizotocracy.” I’ve coined a new name for the supranational network of global corporations, nominally-sovereign governments, non-governmental governing entities, media conglomerates, oligarchs, etc., that comprise the global-capitalist system that is driving the course of events in our time. I’ve coined this new name for those of my readers who suffer apoplectic seizures whenever I write about “global capitalism” (or “GloboCap,” as I sometimes jokingly call it) and its predictable evolution into “The New Normal Reich.”

I’ll tell you about the “schizotocracy,” but, first, here’s an excerpt from an essay I wrote about that predictable evolution back in 2017 …

Tomorrow Belongs to the Corporatocracy

October 20, 2017

We haven’t really got our minds around it yet, because we’re still in the early stages of it, but we have entered an epoch in which historical events are primarily being driven, and societies reshaped not by sovereign nation states acting in their national interests but by supranational corporations acting in their corporate interests. Paramount among these corporate interests is the maintenance and expansion of global capitalism, and the elimination of any impediments thereto. Forget about the United States (i.e., the actual nation state) for a moment, and look at what’s been happening since the early 1990s. The US military’s “disastrous misadventures” in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, and the former Yugoslavia, among other exotic places (which obviously had nothing to do with the welfare or security of any actual Americans), begin to make a lot more sense.

Global capitalism, since the end of the Cold War (i.e, immediately after the end of the Cold War), has been conducting a global clean-up operation, eliminating actual and potential insurgencies, mostly in the Middle East, but also in its Western markets. Having won the last ideological war, like any other victorious force, it has been “clearing-and-holding” the conquered territory, which in this case happens to be the whole planet. Just for fun, get out a map, and look at the history of invasions, bombings, and other “interventions” conducted by the West and its assorted client states since 1990. Also, once you’re done with that, consider how, over the last fifteen years, most Western societies have been militarized, and their citizens placed under constant surveillance, and an overall atmosphere of “emergency” fostered, and paranoia about “the threat of extremism” propagated by the corporate media.

I’m not suggesting there’s a bunch of capitalists sitting around in a room somewhere in their shiny black top hats planning all of this. I’m talking about systemic development, which is a little more complex than that, and much more difficult to intelligently discuss because we’re used to perceiving historico-political events in the context of competing nation states, rather than competing ideological systems … or rather, non-competing ideological systems, for capitalism has no competition. What it has, instead, is a variety of insurgencies, the faith-based Islamic fundamentalist insurgency and the neo-nationalist insurgency chief among them. There will certainly be others throughout the near future as global capitalism consolidates control and restructures society according to its values.

None of these insurgencies will be successful.

Short some sort of cataclysm, like an asteroid strike or the zombie apocalypse, or, you know, violent revolution, global capitalism will continue to restructure the planet to conform to its ruthless interests. The world will become increasingly “normal.” The scourge of “extremism” and “terrorism” will persist, as will the general atmosphere of “emergency.” There will be no more Trumps, Brexit referendums, revolts against the banks, and so on. Identity politics will continue to flourish, providing a forum for leftist activist types (and others with an unhealthy interest in politics), who otherwise might become a nuisance, but any and all forms of actual dissent from global capitalist ideology will be systematically marginalized and pathologized.

I wrote that in October of 2017, and, no, I’m not an soothsayer or a prophet. The trajectory of global capitalism as a system has been obvious for quite some time. That is, if you could see it clearly, as opposed to through an ideological lens.

Now, let me tell you about the schizotocracy. Or, rather, let me tell you about schizophrenia, which is really just a fancy name for psychosis. I want to do that because that’s where global capitalism (or crony capitalism, or the corporatocracy, or the New Normal Reich, or cultural Marxism, or whatever you want or need to call it) is inexorably taking us, i.e., into a state of societal psychosis, so it would probably be a good idea to understand how psychosis works.

What happens when you become psychotic is, you lose your ability to participate in “reality.” It’s like being in a country where you don’t speak the language. Or trying to play a game that everyone else is playing when you don’t know the rules, or the point of the game, and no one will tell you. See, normally, “reality” is just, well, reality. It doesn’t take scare quotes. It’s just “the way it is.” But it isn’t. Reality is manufactured. Which is why what is “real” has changed throughout history. (Of course, those earlier versions of reality were wrong, and our current reality is right, and future generations will never look back on our reality as we look back on the reality of people in Medieval Europe, or ancient Rome, or Mesopotamia.)

In other words, reality is a fiction … a fiction that we all agree to believe in. But that doesn’t make it any less real. On the contrary, it is absolutely real, and absolutely necessary. It is an absolutely necessary fiction. It is what makes communication and cooperation possible. It is what makes all human society possible. As long as we forget that it is a fiction. As long as we don’t perceive it as a fiction.

Which is the problem for psychotic (or “schizophrenic”) individuals. They are unable to not perceive reality as a fiction, a work of ontological fiction in progress. They have forgotten to forget that it’s all made up — which is the price of admission to our communal “reality” — so they desperately try to interpret everything … literally everything, everything that we don’t have to interpret and just take for granted.

For example, if I ask you how your car is running (assuming that you have a car), you won’t have to wonder what I mean. You’ll trust that I am referring to your actual car, the physical automotive vehicle. But when you ask a schizo how their car is running, they may not know what you mean by “car.” Do you really mean their brain? Or the material “vehicle” in which their immaterial spirit is traveling? And why are you asking? Who are you? What are you? A “car mechanic”? Are you from “The Factory”? Or a Cosmic Repo-man? They can’t be certain.

Their mind is working to assemble a “reality,” alone — it does not get more alone — with the pieces of the old (i.e., our) “reality,” which no longer works as reality for them, because they watched it disintegrate into pieces, because they took way too much LSD, or had a psychotic breakdown due to a chemical imbalance, or inserted metal hooks into their pectoral muscles and were hoisted into the the air and hung there until the veil of maya finally dissolved … or whatever it was they did or suffered that obliterated reality for them.

Now, I don’t mean to denigrate obliterating reality. Such experiences can be enlightening, in moderation. But psychosis is a horse of a different color. The biggest danger, when reality is obliterated, is if you freak out and desperately try to impose a new reality on the obliterated reality, which it is nearly impossible not to do if reality remains obliterated for too long. The human mind can handle brief sojourns beyond the veil of maya, but it cannot live there. If it cannot return to our reality, it starts making up its own “reality” … a “reality” that it cannot describe to us, or even get us to acknowledge the existence of, because it is talking to us in a foreign language, which no one but the psychotic person understands.

In other words, psychosis is a failure to communicate. The “reality” the psychotic person is experiencing (i.e., constructing) cannot be communicated to anyone. Our reality is no less a fiction than theirs, but it is a fiction we all share, whereas the psychotic person exists alone, utterly alone, in their solitary (paranoid) “reality.” If they could get us to see what they see, think the way they think, and speak their language, they wouldn’t be psychotic, and neither would we. We would all be normal. Their “reality” would be reality.

OK, so back to the schizotocracy, which is where The New Normal Reich is taking us, which I described above as societal psychosis. And, yes, we need to talk about capitalism. We need to talk about what it does to society when people let it run amok.

Now, I want to be ultra-clear about this for those of my readers who go totally ape-shit every time I write about capitalism. I have no problem with capitalism per se. I’m not an economist. For all I know, capitalism may be the best economic system in the entire history of economic systems. I am not calling on the proletariat to rise up and seize the means of production. I am writing about capitalism as an ideology, because it’s the ideology that has become our reality, the reality of the planet Earth, which it is transforming into one big marketplace.

See, what capitalism does, if you turn it loose, when it isn’t restrained in any real way by any sort of dominant value system — e.g., a religious, or cultural, or social value system — what it does is, it transforms societies into markets, and turns everything and everyone within them into commodities. It strips societies of all other values — i.e., impediments to the free flow of capital — until nothing remains but the marketplace, where exchange value is the only value and nothing has any real value in itself, or any real meaning in itself.

And the kicker is, what capitalism does next, when it’s allowed to go hog-wild on society, is it sells the desiccated husks of people’s values back to them as lifestyle commodities. Identities, religions, political parties, sexual orientations, left, right, capitalist, anti-capitalist, whatever. They are all just interchangeable commodities. Consumer products. Leisure activities. If they aren’t, if you attempt to actually live your life according to non-global-capitalist values (like, just for example, Islam, or Christianity, or communism, or any other values that impede the unbridled flows of capital), you will quickly find yourself branded an “extremist.” Go ahead, those of you who call yourselves Christians, try this … give everything you have to the poor, chase the money-changers out of your churches. See how fast you are branded “terrorists.”

Again, for my sensitive pro-capitalist readers, I have no problem with private property, and manufacturing and buying and selling things, and all that other basic “capitalism” stuff. I’m talking about what happens when we take our hands off the reins of society, and let global capitalism run society for us. What happens is, capitalism disintegrates our values, all of our values, not just the ones you don’t like. We end up living in a global market, a global market where there are no values, and nothing means anything, because anything means anything.

We end up with societal psychosis. We end up ruled by a schizotocracy. Our reality changes from day to day, as does who we thought were our allies and adversaries, depending on the fluctuations of the market. The ideological market. The “reality” market. One day we’re all “free-speech” champions, and the next we’re screeching for censorship of speech. One day people are demonizing “the Unvaccinated,” and the next they are screeching that they are being demonized. Comparing anything to Nazi Germany is anti-Semitism, until it isn’t, and wasn’t, until it was, and then wasn’t again. Trump is Hitler. Putin is Hitler. Hamas is Hitler. Netanyahu is Hitler. Anyone who calls anyone Hitler is Hitler. Men are women. Women are Hitler. The Hamas terrorists are worse than the Nazis. Israel is worse than the Nazis. Masks work, and they don’t. Stand with Ukraine. Stand with Israel. Stand with Whatever. Listerine kills the germs that brushing can’t. Have it your way. You’re in good hands. Fly the friendly skies. And so on. Nothing and no one can be trusted. No one has any values or principles, so we’re just shrieking gibberish and slogans at each other, like corporations advertising their products on a television network that no one is watching.

And, of course, just like the psychotic individual, who desperately attempts to impose a new “reality” on the terrifying chaos of the obliterated reality from which they have been exiled, many folks are going full-blown fascist and trying to ram their “truth” down everyone else’s throat in an attempt to reestablish something, anything, resembling a functional reality … a reality that isn’t up for grabs. Other people are switching off, and withdrawing from society, overwhelmed by it all. Others are searching for someone to tell them what is really going on and what to do about it. “Leaders” are coming out of the woodwork, delivering speeches and holding seminars, explaining the problem … and who “our enemy” is.

I think you know how the rest of this story goes.

And, no, for those readers who are tempted to write me and ask, I don’t know how to stop it. Maybe, if it can be stopped, that will start with people actually talking to each other, face to face, in physical reality, people who disagree with each other, who may not particularly like each other, but who are able to sit together and talk about the state of our world without it devolving into a shrieking homicidal hate fest.

As usual, I wish I had something more hopeful to end this horrible column with … especially because it’s Christmas-time, the season of joy, and love, and all that. I don’t. And, also, I’m a little distracted preparing for my trial here in Germany for thoughtcrimes. If you are in Berlin on January 23, 12:00 PM, and want to attend the proceedings, feel free to come to the District Court. The address is Turmstraße 91. We are in Room 371. It should be interesting.

In the meantime, merry Christmas and happy holidays!

CJ Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing and Broadway Play Publishing, Inc. His dystopian novel, Zone 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. Volumes I and II of his Consent Factory Essays are published by Consent Factory Publishing, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Content, Inc. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

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mik
mik
Dec 17, 2023 9:05 PM

CJ,

wise words, also accessible, with the inevitable catch 22 – it is very hard to reach those who need them most, simply because they are entrenched in their Worldview that itself is very much an impassable veil for rational, even for emotional. Worldview consists of elements of faith.

Concur, Capitalism is detrimental to our values, to our ethics/morality. What we have now is a simulacra of morality. From Alasdair MacIntyre (After Virtue, 1981):

We possess indeed simulacra of morality, we continue to use many of the key

expressions. But we have – very largely, if not entirely – lost our com­prehension, both theoretical and practical, or morality.

….my thesis entails, that the language and the appearances of morality persist even though the integral substance of morality has to a large degree been fragmented and then in part destroyed.

and

….even to entertain this hypothesis puts me into an antagonistic stance, it is a very different antagonistic stance from that of, for example, modern radicalism.

It is the aim of this book to make that thought available to radicals, liberals and conservatives alike. I cannot however expect to make it palatable; for if it is true, we are all already in a state so disastrous that there are no large remedies for it.

Well, all of this cannot solely be attributed to capitalism. Weber claimed ‘protestant work ethic’ has been instrumental in development of capitalism. He missed very important notion that was developed before by Luther and Machiavelli and is necessary to understanding of capitalism and ruination of morality, too, and that is: Individualism.
The more individualism gets prominence, the more it’s detrimental to morality. Morality in its essence not just “regulates” voluntary interactions among individuals, consequently society, it is necessary for its flourishing existence. Morality is pretty much meaningless for an individual living alone on a far island, but we are not solitary beings, we are social beings.
For average westerner it is hard to comprehend the world without a heavy dose (in a junky sense) of individualism. It would be very healthy for them to familiarize themselves with Confucius. My reasons for respecting Confucius are certainly different than Xi Jinping’s.

Individualism went hard core with capitalism (and vice versa), also by thinkers as Nietzsche, and culminated with that bitch claiming: “There is no such thing as society”. Of course, her mantra was free-market.

Actually, there is no such thing as free-market (or free-markets if you’re inclined towards cosmetics and not essence). A bold claim, I will argue for it two ways: first as the whole notion and then the ‘free’ part of it.

Free-market(s) is pure abstraction, still proponents of it talk about it like it’s real, concrete, hence committing a Fallacy of misplaced concreteness. The real, concrete thing in the abstract notion of free-market(s) is human economic interaction that is enabled by all written and unwritten rules, habits, predictability…. that exist in society. It makes no sense whatsoever to talk about free-market(s) in absence of society.

To nail down the free in free-market I must commit a thought-crime, a blasphemy, and discuss private property, because it’s the basis for capitalism, free-market ideologues, neo-feudalism ideologues……damn, it’s inscribed in Ten Commandments (ok, fine…damn, just that neighbor wife thing…).
I like Roman’s definition of property most: property means, one can use and/or abuse a thing as one wants. Abuse is very very important.

I own a flat. Great. I’m not under enormous pressure to take any job I could, because of next rent is right around the corner. My flat, my property, gives me power when I negotiate any job.
If I would own more flats, I could be rentier, working just for fun and to drive away boredom. I would be much more powerful to say fuck-off to pretty much anyone, if need be. So, the amount of property is positively correlated to Power, and possibility to be free, too.

Small digression, I’ve just read an article Is Free Speech A Relic In America? written by libertarian (Brownstone institute). I agree with author, even suggestions from a state about what is bad speech must not be taken lightly, because the state has Power, no ‘or else’ is needed, it’s implied. Well, I wonder what would be his take on what any form of Power means for interactions on free-market(s).

Voluntary interactions occasionally imply negotiations and it’s good to possess a Power when negotiating. Imagine how negotiation with mafia looks like. No violence needed, just a knowledge about who is who. It doesn’t matter for negotiations itself where the Power stems from. When negotiating parties have huge disparity of Power then we can’t talk about negotiations any more. In case of mafia (state), we have no problem using a proper verb, extortion. There isn’t much free or voluntary in relations with state (mafia).

But for capitalists, people with a lot of property, people with a lot of Power, yes, bad-billy among them, and jaff-a, holy elon too……and that nice entrepreneur, owner of a small factory who spends third of a year sailing, while his associates (workers) drudge for a market defined wage (+perks, ’cause he’s nice)……….. for them a plethora of apologist theories had been invented, none of them discussing positive correlation of Property and Power.

In general, interactions on market(s) are somewhere on a spectrum from free towards mafia, capitalism cannot provide free.

Naturally, there will always be differences in power among people, there is huge variability among people. Even a reset to absolute equality would last long if current laws and conventions stayed unchanged.
It would be wise to prevent huge differences, because they give birth to monstrosities like WEF, states, BIS, wars……
Tjeerd Andringa: Knowledge is about identifying, solving a problem, wisdom is about preventing a problem.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Dec 14, 2023 9:18 AM

“Our reality is no less a fiction than theirs, but it is a fiction we all share, whereas the psychotic person exists alone”

Methinks that those existing alone are the least psychotic of all.

Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Dec 12, 2023 11:02 PM

on a positive note has your book sales increased.?

Hugh O’Neill
Hugh O’Neill
Dec 12, 2023 9:06 PM

JK Galbraith: “The difference between Capitalism and Communism. In the latter, man exploits man. In the former, its the other way around”

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Dec 12, 2023 5:33 AM

That was good. Let’s hear a little more from the Master.

Le Bret

But this is madness!

Cyrano

     Method, let us say.

It is my pleasure to displease. I love

Hatred. Imagine how it feels to face

The volley of a thousand angry eyes—

The bile of envy and the froth of fear

Spattering little drops about me— You—

Good nature all around you, soft and warm—

You are like those Italians, in great cowls

Comfortable and loose— Your chin sinks down

Into the folds, your shoulders droop. But I—

The Spanish ruff I wear around my throat

Is like a ring of enemies; hard, proud,

Each point another pride, another thorn—

So that I hold myself erect perforce

Wearing the hatred of the common herd

Haughtily, the harsh collar of Old Spain,

At once a fetter and—a halo!

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Dec 12, 2023 5:09 AM

I think I disagree. Although it is hard to take a position against such broad generalizations.

Generally, however, on the subject of enemies, I tend to agree with Cyrano de Bergerac:

Le Bret

Alone, yes!—But why stand against the world?

What devil has possessed you now, to go

Everywhere making yourself enemies?

Cyrano

Watching you other people making friends

Everywhere—as a dog makes friends! I mark

The manner of these canine courtesies

And think: “My friends are of a cleaner breed;

Here comes—thank God!—another enemy!”

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Dec 12, 2023 2:43 AM

Mythology

It is baffling why at the present moment we need to delve into distant Nazi mythology to look for paradigms of evil. Or is it that certain ethnicities are incapable of evil regardless of their actions ?

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Dec 11, 2023 4:21 PM

Twice had CJ Hopkins to reassure us that he is not again Capitalism, only against unbridled Capitalism. But what is the history of Capitalism other than the many attempts to put reins on it?

Trouble is that Capital wants our happiness but uses the wrong way. Liberalism, the political doctrine of Capital, emerged precisely to put an end to the wars of religion, to the oppressive moralities that were tearing families and societies apart, and the hypocrisies of the Church. So that it is precisely the demise and exhaustion of the religious and moral values as guides of conduct that hitherto held societies together, that fed Liberalism and hence Capital into being, as a totalising, privatising system, whereby everyone can do everything they like as long as it is done under the impersonal laws of the self regulating market, which precisely no one voted, and for this precise reason everyone would and should agree with, as opposed to the only too many, often quarrelling, authors of religious and moral precepts.

And all the pockets of insurgencies of religious and ethical values remaining are instantly bashed backed in, or absorbed, mutilated, in any case rendered innocuous to Capital, as Hopkins rightly points out. But Capital isn’t IMO something alien to religious values so that we could use these to tame the former, rather these values are a previous moment of the former in the mouvement of History.

Thus, I see a contradiction in Hopkins’ stance for restrained Capital but against unfettered Capital as if the latter isn’t the necessary next moment of the former.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Dec 11, 2023 5:28 PM

He’s doing that as many of his readers are (still) on the Right, for whom any criticism of capitalism is taboo. It’s less of a contradiction than an accommodation to those still trapped in the ideology of the Left/Right dichotomy.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Dec 11, 2023 5:59 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Thanks, that’d be understandable.

sandy
sandy
Dec 11, 2023 6:48 PM

You can also separate capitalism from “trade”. Trade is how people make enough to make a daily living. Capitalism is the accumulation, hording, of excess wealth and income to turn into authority to make public policy. Billionaires like Musk and Gates create public policy thru the products and services they generate with their great wealth, with no public consent. Simple millionaires or 1%ers spread their money around as a donor class, affecting policies that make them richer. Their authority purchased, becomes a cult-class of what they call themselves, “thought leaders”, influencing everything and everyone below them that look upon these people as authorities they defer to. Then they subsidize, tax-break and legislative loophole themselves. These are the capitalist pigs, we should have kept taxed-to-a-cage as they were post WW2 in the 50’s and early 60’s. And we should have made THEIR FED a Public Banking System owned by We the People. A leashed capitalism with public right to decide our future, and avid participation by all, would never authorize the nightmares of the last 50 years.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 12, 2023 2:09 AM
Reply to  sandy

Excellent comment sandy.
The privatisation of the PEOPLE’S ASSETS has been a disaster for the working class.
The Capitalist Pigs should be made into porky sausages.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 12, 2023 9:13 AM
Reply to  sandy

Billionaires like Musk and Gates create public policy thru..
Thru their “donations”, “contributions” and “lobbying”.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Dec 12, 2023 2:05 PM
Reply to  sandy

Yes, gaps in accumulation is what gives foot to subsequent influence and leverage. My doubt is that In an economy based on a monetary and wage systems, and profit making, how can we prevent simple trade (including barter) from converting into larger transactions, from national to supranational to global. Since the reason for investing is getting more than what we invested, there are many pressures to which the investor is subject such as lowering costs, standardisation for simpler production processes and convenience, competition pressures to make better and cheaper products, and its opposite of combinations into cartels to control prices if they go too low, make use of ever improving technology, the inevitable foreclosures and other crises and the strategies to circumvent them such as product diversification, seeking new markets, and other tricks to help producers keep afloat, the transformation of currency itself into commodity, etc. Everything in the logic of profit making compels the small businesses to transform and grow in order to stay in the market. Someone said wisely that running a business is like biking, whenever you stop you fall, so you have to continue biking and profit for reinvestment becomes an end in itself, and with it accumulation and influence.

I mean, I have doubts whether starting off with a community of small local trade and barter doesn’t lead necessarily with the current status quo of big influential corporations. As a matter of fact, that’s how capital started. So how can we secure the same level of modest economic activity overtime?

However, I’d argue, take away money and the wage system and produce instead for nothing else than for the consumption of the community rather than for profit and we take away the compulsion to accumulate.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Dec 13, 2023 2:44 PM
Reply to  sandy

The difficulty is that their fed/BofE/ECB etc is doling out the money to their mates who own the medias, the mercenaries, the politicians and the weapons, not to mention the pantodemics.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Dec 11, 2023 7:22 PM

Van Beeley more or less says “I’m not from the left or right. I’m from the bottom. And we’re comin’ to getcha.”

John Ervin
John Ervin
Dec 12, 2023 5:34 AM

Chris Hedges uses that term “unfettered capitalism” but it is soon enough more like King Kong, breaking free of its fetters. Then, watch out.

“It was Beauty that killed the Beast.” ~ last line of 1930s original King Kong.

[Word2Wise]

It’s synecdoche is C👁️A or Capitalism’s Invisible Army.

Another Beast broken free. But it counterfeits Beauty at will and so is not amenable, sadly.

£4£&$4$+my2¢™===

“You can’t reform a mafia, only pay it more extortion money.”

~ Joe Bageant

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 8:58 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

King Kong was no beast. He was a man who just wanted to be alone.

Paul
Paul
Dec 12, 2023 7:57 AM

Any talk of ‘capitalism’ immediately puts into limited hangout territory.
There you will debate the merits of a handful of known political or economic ‘systems’ / ‘models’.
The system loves that you do this.
In reality we will always seek to trade with one another because we need to.
Ergo discussing the merits of ‘capitalism’ is nonsense.
What’s never discussed is what is RIGHT.
The system does not like this.
The RIGHTEOUS way will look a little bit ‘capitalist’, a little bit ‘socialist’ and so on.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Dec 12, 2023 12:49 PM
Reply to  Paul

Humanity did not always exchanged goods. The capitalist argument that we need to trade is not valid, IMO.

Exchange appeared only when there was ownership of surplus goods and properties. The capitalist mode of production, that is the use property for exchange, is a historical stage related to the development of more intensive, efficient production, as opposed to Feudalism with its rudimentary ones and it will exhaust itself just like feudalism and before it slavery did. However, there is no conscious evil per se in Capital; only it can’t help itself making part of humanity suffer to benefit another part. That’s part of the way it works: every step forward is paid for with a number of steps backwards.

Hence, it is not a matter of being some capitalist, some socialist etc, as if each has to have a fair share in economic life; these are successive historical stages emerging as previous ones are exhausted. Otherwise it would be like saying: a fair character is equally infant, child, young, adult and old.

Tom
Tom
Dec 20, 2023 12:02 AM

The system, a mixed economy, I.e. there is a government sector and a private sector, is fine theoretically. It is the process of distribution of wealth, ‘added value’, that is the problem. We need governments with the political will to ensure a fair distribution of this ‘added value’. Otherwise we should abandon the notion of representative democracy and design a whole new paradigm of distribution of resources. Power To The Peoples.

Marian
Marian
Dec 11, 2023 4:09 PM

Have recently started to consider that capitalism has nothing to do with free markets or private property. Instead capitalism is pretty way to describe usury. In the world of the financers we are mere whores and whatever assets we have are theirs for a loan. Seems like capitalism is schizotocracy

John Ervin
John Ervin
Dec 12, 2023 6:44 AM
Reply to  Marian

Food for thought, from a British century ago:

“It is the practical tendency of all trade & commerce today to form big combinations, which are often more impersonal, more imperial, and more International than many a communist commonwealth.”. ~ GKC

“The problem with capitalism is that there are far too few capitalists.” ~ Ibid.

[All quotes subject to fact checks.]

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 12, 2023 9:18 AM
Reply to  Marian

The “whores” provide a service in demand. Capitalists exploit or harm in the most devious and brutal ways.

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 11, 2023 2:44 PM

Argentina has a new “far-right” leader!
https://www.reuters.com/world/israel-thanks-argentinas-milei-pledge-move-embassy-jerusalem-2023-12-04/

“Milei, who says he intends to convert to Judaism, visited the tomb of a well-known orthodox Jewish rabbi during a recent trip to the United States. He has repeatedly said he will take a strongly pro-Israel stance on foreign policy.”

Is there maybe a bit of a pattern starting to emerge with these “far-right”, “like Trump”, “populist” leaders?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Dec 11, 2023 9:13 AM

What I find very amusing right now is the bunch of folks railing about politicians ‘controlling their lives’, but then start telling everyone that ‘you must obey the scriptures’.

At least politicians are still alive and can be argued with.

The humans who wrote the scriptures down are long dead, so it’s an ideal way of making the living into obedient sheep, isn’t it?

‘It’s a holy book, so it cannot be questioned!’

‘We know what’s best for you, we’re the Labour Party/Democrats/RINOs/the EU/the CCP’.

Can anyone see any difference?????

ImpObs
ImpObs
Dec 11, 2023 12:25 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

If you want to go down the rabbit hole of how genuine the “scriptures” are (and it’s a deep rabbit hole) a good place to start would be Russell E. Gmirkins work

Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical creation accountshttps://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2023/2023.06.27/

One of his shorter interviews here, much more depth in other interviews on that channel:

What Do Genesis & Plato Have In Common? Russell Gmirkinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJSLbT7o3vI

Sort story, they (The old Testament etc.) were plagerised by 70/72 scribes invited to the library of Alexandria by the Phaoah to do some translations from original Platonian/Hellanistic stories, which formed the original conspiracy to control the plebs. Some discussion of that thesis here:

https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/ii-the-great-metaphysics-conspiracy

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 10:38 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

Have you and Gmirkin read the bible before you made “Science” over the Bible’s origin and potential falsehood to fool the plebs?

Its because truth is truth notwithstanding any thesis, rabbit hole, translations, comparison with Platon, Cicerus,m.m.

We who read the bible, read it that way: If some statement is true in the bible this statement is divine because God is truth. Thus we are able to cut through all the smug.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Dec 12, 2023 4:40 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Gmirkin has read the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic texts, and examined the archelogical evidence, along with other scholars who cite his work.

The only disagreement is which came first, i.e. who copied who, I find Gmirkins evidence compelling as it doesn’t make sense chronologically otherwise.

Truthseekers may be interested in Francesca Stavrakopoulou work too, based on the original scriptures and archeological evidence, this is a good documentry covering her book:

The REAL God Of The BIBLE

We explore the fascinating, yet lesser-known aspects of Yahweh’s identity – his relationship with his father El, his consort Asherah, and his position within a broader pantheon of deities. This documentary challenges conventional views, shedding light on the transformation of Yahweh from a member of a divine assembly to the sole omnipotent deity of later monotheistic traditions.

Prepare to be astonished as we unravel the intricate tapestry of ancient beliefs, rituals, and theological evolutions. This is a must-watch for those seeking to understand the complex origins and evolution of one of the world’s most influential deities. Whether you’re a scholar, a student of history, or simply curious, this documentary promises to be a revelatory and thought-provoking experience, opening eyes to a dimension of biblical history seldom discussed in mainstream discourse.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Dec 11, 2023 2:32 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Yes, but they are slaves to ideas from a much earlier era, an era w/o mass media, social engineering and psychological warfare. That is a difference.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 9:27 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Yes I can see a clear difference.
So you wanna argue with the scriptures? Or do you want to understand the scriptures?
Big difference.
You argue with alive Priests within their particular religion yes? So there are people to argue with.
Question the Holy Book? What do you wanna question?

The difference is that Politics is the art of making feasible solutions on a particular place, in a particular moment, for a particular problem.
The Scriptures are universal advices on the universe and human life on earth.

When someone says: “You must obey the scriptures” it is the interpretation of the Church of God’s word.
God made the Scriptures available only to HELP people during their stay here.
The Church says “You must obey the scriptures” because the scriptures are divine and good advices.

Lets take an example: “Thou shall not eat of the tree of good and bad, because then you will surely die”.
It means if you try to play God and change the way the creation was designed, you will die.
All right, You question God and wanna do it better. You change the design of the sky to be green, grass to be blue, 2+2=5, and what happen?
You get confused, cant find your way home, go wild in the desert or wood, get insane, eaten by wild animals, jump down from a cliff. You will surely die, remember?

Simple good advices to you and a healthy life here. Fixed.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 11, 2023 4:29 AM

This seems like a reasonable critique of Simon Elmer’s recent piece, but I don’t know enough about British politics to pass judgement.
Anyone? :

https://real-left.com/simon-elmer-is-now-fighting-woke-with-his-own-noxious-brand-of-identity-politics-part-i-consequences-of-the-decrease-in-british-whiteness/

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 11, 2023 5:18 PM
Reply to  Johnny

On a more detailed perusal it seems clear to me that Shoniwa has misrepresented Elemer’s arguments and has rephrased them in a (deliberately?) malignant way. Shoniwa repeats the word “eroded” with reference to some British White culture, whilst Elmer not only does NOT use that word but tells us

“…in the UK, at least, we no longer have anything one could refer to as a ‘culture’, for which we have substituted corporate and state propaganda created by global think-tanks to cretinize the national population into compliance.”

Furthermore Elmer is clear on who is doing the colonising:

“The coloniser now, however, isn’t another country or Empire, but a transnational consortium of financial institutions, global asset managers, information technology companies and the technocracies they form.”

Whether Shoniwa is deliberately misrepresenting Elmer or allowing his own fixations to intrude is an interesting question.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 11, 2023 9:36 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I’ve had a glance and it seems to be another demonstration of the cunning use of the Left/Right idea to divide folk. Covid marked a turnaround from Right neoliberalist rhetoric to what I always think of as “groovy Leftism”. Consequently anyone who rejected the covid crap – and later the climate and transgender crap – was a “Right wing conspiracy theorist”. Thus “Lefties” like Elmer and Naomi Wolf were forced to go on “Right Wing” channels where they could be easily demonised by the Groovy Left.

One problem here is that these Lefties may find it tempting to “go the whole hog” and embrace Right Wing views or at least not appreciate the danger whereby their justified irritation of what the Left has become pushes them to abandon good ideas on the Left.

It was probably unwise for Elmer to make a big deal out of woke representation at the political level since it looks like he has lapsed into the old racist reactionary meme of “white genocide”.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 11, 2023 9:59 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Though at the same time, I glance through the comments and am met with the now customary wokist outrage that is so tedious.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 11, 2023 2:16 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Maybe you could ask Sweden how its slavish obedience to UN values and treaties worked out for its people.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Dec 11, 2023 2:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Elmer has stated numerous times that he believes that we ought to abandon the left/right dichotomy, as it no longer has any political meaning (or relation to its historic meaning). When they changed their name (I think it was) Left Lockdown Skeptics to the Real Left, they showed a profound lack of understanding of how the left/right schema is a ruling class tool used to keep people from uniting along common interests and used masterfully (as demonstrated by numerous examples in the last 3 years alone) to manipulate the populace in pretty much any direction the ruling class wants.

What I have found is that people will hold on for dear life to these notions like left and right. It’s their identity. The Real Left are using a concept that Elmer doesn’t buy into as a weapon against him – how ironic.

TRT
TRT
Dec 11, 2023 3:32 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

There is a significant difference in views among the population that generally falls along left/right lines. On the type of economy, political system and society that is considered ideal, there is clearly a wide range of conflicting views among people. I don’t think all of these differences can be blamed on the ruling class, although many of them can.

The goal now should focus on putting aside these differences to unite around common interests in opposition to oligarchy, defending freedom/liberty, and building a genuine democracy. Hopefully general agreement can be found on these points across the left/right divisions.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Dec 11, 2023 4:06 PM
Reply to  TRT

RE: There is a significant difference in views among the population that generally falls along left/right lines…

Historically I would agree. But in the last 6 years or so, really? Leftists used to support the Bill of Rights, now they are the first to abrogate it. In the last 3 years, leftists have been calling for and implementing a vast censorship apparatus, calling for censorship of “hate speech” most loosely defined against – you name the group – “transphobes”, those who question BLM, “anti-maskers”, “anti-vaxxers”, “science deniers”, those who question the war in Ukraine, I probably missed some. The left switched from stalwart supporters of free speech to those calling for the suppression of it, to going from anti-war to pro-war.

And for 3 years the Right looked like those who maintained their principles, defending free speech. Until October 7th 2023, that is, when the ruling class got them to call for mass censorship of the Internet and universities against anti-semitism. So, in a matter of days, the ruling class has got the Left and the Right “united” that we need the state to protect us from free speech.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Dec 11, 2023 3:22 PM
Reply to  George Mc

RE: It was probably unwise for Elmer to make a big deal out of woke representation at the political level

Well, gee, I don’t if that was possible as Elmer in his book The Road to Fascism: for a Critique of the Biosecurity State has a chapter called the “Ideology of Woke” and says this:

“…by its facilitation of capitalism’s construction of the totalitarianism of the Global Biosecurity State – Woke is not liberal, and it certainly isn’t socialist: woke is fascist.”

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 11, 2023 4:34 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Obviously “woke” has been devatatingly succesful as a divide-and-rule strategy. I think that Elmer was making a point about the psychological usage of woke-premitted ethnic minorities in positions of power which Shoniwa has taken to mean the rise to dominance of these minorities – which is absurd.

Or it may be a case of “How dare you imply that the whites are now experiencing colonialism when we non-whites had the real thing for so long!” – which is understandable as in the direct colonial powers in the past as opposed to this new psychological usage of minorities to create an unease amongst the majority i.e. to make them feel alienated from power, which is of course also the position with the minorities in the general population.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 11, 2023 10:24 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Rusere Shoniwa says that Elmer has now blocked him on twitter which is disappointing. I have yet to hear Elmer’s side of the story.

I’m not sure if Shoniwa is one of the ones who fails to grasp the deviousness of the new pseudo Leftist stance in the mainstream and so automatically takes up the old “Leftist” positions uncritically.

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Dec 11, 2023 11:34 AM
Reply to  Johnny

No one needs a larger population, pay your own people to have children, give them cheap homes etc. A bloke with a little moustache that people seem to hate successfully rehabilitated his country in a few short years before the parasites took over. When you find out that a national needs to replace its current population, ask yourself why the nation was successful with less than half the population in the past. Simply put the answer is the parasites want to wreck your stability and culture, and overall society as a whole, which only benefits the parasite (banksters).

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 12, 2023 9:24 AM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

rehabilitated his country in a few short years
The parasites want adherence to policies that make the hole you are in deeper. They don’t want ideas or smart alecs

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Dec 12, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Exactly.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 11, 2023 1:59 PM
Reply to  Johnny

I contacted Rusere Shoniwa via twitter and he said Simon Elmer blocked him without any prior engagement. Very disappointing and I’m guessing that the whole point about woke being used as a weapon has backfired in that the analysis of it, if pushed too far, drifts dangerously into territory that can easily be exploited for divisive purposes.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 12, 2023 2:13 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Why can’t they just agree to disagree and drop the snarkiness?

peter mackey
peter mackey
Dec 11, 2023 2:58 AM

Wonderful stuff. I am one of those that has checked out. The schizophrenia of modern day reality has caused me to check out. I can’t stand the values we all share today where a lie is the ultimate truth (I can’t make that leap at my age) and must be defended to the last drop of blood, until the utterer changes his/her mind and the ‘truth’ becomes a lie and the lie becomes the new ‘truth’….vividly encapsulated by whatever spokesman for the WH said ‘no, we have alternate facts’.

tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Dec 11, 2023 12:39 AM

CJ Hopkins, in support of your theory of Schizotocracy … I have been a big fan of Naomi Wolf since I read her book in 2007 “The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot” I found the interview you linked to with Dr. Michael Nehls (book) : “mRNA Injections Erase Autobiographical Memory in Hippocampus” ..exceedingly interesting, and have just tried to buy it….but so far it is only available in German.

Good luck with your court case. Were you on acid when you wrote Zone 23? It’s very weird – oh here we are?

https://dailyclout.io/dr-michael-nehls-mrna-injections-erase-autobiographical-memory-in-hippocampus/

Tony

PBW
PBW
Dec 12, 2023 12:09 PM
Reply to  tony_opmoc

The link above to Michael Nehls interviewed by Naomi Wolf at Daily Clout is mind-blowing.

Must watch. This is a new level of brain damage & mind control from the clot shots.

We face a real Zombie apocalypse.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 11, 2023 12:11 AM
tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Dec 11, 2023 12:01 AM

For well over 20 years, at about this time in December, I have about 2 weeks to decide who is My Journalist of The Year. My choice is obviously influenced by the writers on the internet…and the books I bought and read…

I will give this a read, and see if CJ Hopkins is still in my Top 10?

…You do write exceedingly well – not surprised you ‘fked off to Germany must say you have a lot of German competition.

I actually gave one of my first awards to Johan Hari, when he got totally f’cked over for writing the truth, accused of plaigurism. I thought that really was a case of beating up your own shit

Do you know wtf is going on – with Reiner Fuëllmich and his sidekick who looks like Angela Merkel on a bad day, and also makes and sells hats to very famous musicians, and raises new breed of sheep… Its O.K in England (all mad) but It seems in Germany you get arrested for Farting……
Possibly give Musician of the Year to Iggy Pop.I thought he dropped dead 20 years ago. He looks better now. He’s got a new album out and is touring. “Comments” is really good and totally on topic

https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/iggy-pop-every-loser-album-review-3369696

StStephen
StStephen
Dec 10, 2023 10:35 PM

They might take away the sun and the moon

If you let ‘em mightn’t they?

And they might take away the stars in the sky

If they could get ‘em mightn’t they?

They might even take away the whole Milky Way

And they might take away the hour and the second

And the time of day

And they might take away the whole night and day

And they might take away the whole night and day mightn’t they?

They might take away your freedom

Bleed’n everybody dry

They might take away your space

Take away your faith

You can’t even pray

They might make you all the same

Take away your name mightn’t they?

And they might take away your neck and your sex

Nothing would stay

Nothing remain

And they might take away the whole night and day mightn’t they?

They might take away the whole night and day

Nothing would stay

They might take away your clothes

And your body and everybody

They might give you all a number

You don’t have say

They might take away part of your brain

And then make you all go insane

And they might take away your womb

And put you in a little room instead mightn’t they?

And they might take away the whole night and day

And they might take away the whole night and day

If they could get ‘em

Mightn’t they?

They might take away the whole night and day

If we let ‘em

Mightn’t they?

 
Lyrics to the song Night and Day, from the 1981 album Sweet Nothing, by Australian musician Mark Gillespie. Never off topic.

RIP. It’s been a little over two years since Gillespie died in a Bangladeshi hospital. As a tribute and on the occasion of a decent recording recently going up on Boobtube (though complete with cretinous ads, I’m afraid)… Listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4aj-CvFV94&list=OLAK5uy_noVAZdWRsCTMHGWjTSoBeeKKyuDSzkYAM&index=5

StStephen
StStephen
Dec 10, 2023 11:01 PM
Reply to  StStephen

Correction: “You don’t have a say”.

Well, you do here, at least.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 10, 2023 11:31 PM
Reply to  StStephen

Thanks for that StStephen.
I can’t remember Mark’s music but he was certainly a great songwriter.
Pity protest songs get almost no airtime these days.
The music business is just that: A bu$ine$$, run by EXPLOITERS.

StStephen
StStephen
Dec 11, 2023 10:29 PM
Reply to  Johnny

You’re welcome Johnny. And I’m an old fan of Crimson myself, though I prefer the earlier versions, both of the songs and the band.

Disillusioned with the music business, Mark Gillespie quit to go and work as a volunteer with a single mothers and children’s refuge in Bangladesh.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Dec 12, 2023 5:15 AM
Reply to  StStephen

“Mightn’t they?”?

StStephen
StStephen
Dec 17, 2023 9:59 PM
Reply to  Thomas Paine

Rhetorical question.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 10, 2023 10:24 PM

Speaking of schizoid, this King Crimson song is more than fifty years old but it rings true right now:

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 11, 2023 1:24 AM
Reply to  Johnny

THREE drummers!
These blokes know how to kick arse!

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 11, 2023 1:32 AM
Reply to  Johnny

An egalitarian rock band.
They’re far and few between:

“I have to admit, when Robert first started talking about using a drum trio, I thought he was mad,” Jakko commented. “I couldn’t see how it was going to work. Then he explained he wanted the drums to be in front and the band on risers behind them! That made me even more concerned.

“I had all kinds of worries about how we would monitor the sound. But when we set up for the first time, and we saw how cool it looked, we all got excited. It took a little time, but eventually we figured out how to monitor the band using in-ear headphones.”

Admitting that as a singer, he feels “odd” about standing behind three drummers onstage, Jakszyk still pointed out that “there is something very egalitarian about the arrangement.”

“Usually the singer is the frontman – he’s the guy that’s the focus of attention,” he said. “By putting him and featured soloists in the back, suddenly the audience’s attention shifts to the music and all of the musicians rather than one guy. In a way, the current version of Crimson feels more like an orchestra. It’s a real group.”

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 11, 2023 9:13 AM
Reply to  Johnny

One of the other tracks on the album is ‘Moonchild’ which is a term from Crowley and Thelema.

On little Occult markers dropped into the culture as they like to do, Netanyahu recently mentioned ‘Amalek’. By a remarkable ‘coincidence’ that happens to be an anagram of Kamala with one vowel shifted. In the Western esoteric tradition, anagrams are not seen as random occurances but as indicators of occult (i.e. hidden) connections.

StStephen
StStephen
Dec 11, 2023 10:18 PM
Reply to  Edwige

And as you’re certainly aware, his mention of “Amalek” conveyed the not-so-occult meaning that the Palestinians were to share the same fate as the Amalekites at the hands of the Isrealites: total extermination.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Dec 10, 2023 9:02 PM

Thank-you for attempting to describe our modern society and for providing a story that we can learn from.

Kalle Müller
Kalle Müller
Dec 10, 2023 8:55 PM

Perhaps Capitalism isn’t a problem without a STATE. working hand in glove with biggest corporations. (which is the definition of fascism) How could Pfizer make 100 billion without all the STATES buying Pfizers deadly products with their TAX cattle’s money? Which person had the means to afford some Lockhead-Martin product? Only STATES can rob that amount of money and waste it in wars with other STATES,

Anarchy is a good value system:

Don’t use violence in any interaction with another human being. (Except in self-defense)

Don’t threaten to use violence.

It seems almost too simple to be a usefull value system.

It worked for about 299.994 years when we were hunter-gatherers.

Babylon ever since…

les online
les online
Dec 10, 2023 10:19 PM
Reply to  Kalle Müller

This “Violence” you mention, what is it ?
The same as “Terrorism” – an abstract noun ?

Kalle Müller
Kalle Müller
Dec 11, 2023 7:04 AM
Reply to  les online

No, violence just means “physical force”. Hitting, kicking, pushing, pulling, shooting arrows, using explosives, shooting, using missiles, nuclear bombs. Not very abstract.

mik
mik
Dec 11, 2023 1:06 PM
Reply to  Kalle Müller

“Don’t use violence in any interaction with another human being. (Except in self-defense)”

“No, violence just means “physical force”.”

What about verbal violence, intrigues, manipulations, trickeries in all variations?

Snow-flaking aside, words can bite and sting badly, they have consequences in material world.

Imagine a person subjected to nefarious things enumerated above. He tries everything to no avail and then become violent.

I’m not endorsing violence in any way.

Non-violence cannot be postulated as Categorical Imperative, although today it is considered as such, it is considered to be a moral truth. Violence should be judged contextually.

Kalle Müller
Kalle Müller
Dec 11, 2023 9:44 PM
Reply to  mik

As I said, physical force can only be used in self defense.

Yes words can be a form of violence: If a mother uses words to tell her “unbehaved” child that she will not love her anymore – that’s a threat of violence.

For grown-ups the old “sticks and stones…” saying should work. Hatespeech: pfff

But the every day real violence is commited by STATES:

A police officer walking around with a gun – that’s the threat of violent action. If he uses it to kill some protester – that’s violence.

If you are put in a cage for not paying your protection money (taxes) – that’s violence.

If you loose your job for not taking the jab – that’s violence.

If you wipe out some brown people with a reaper drone from far far away – that’s violence.

Violence is quite easy to judge, in my view. No context needed.

mik
mik
Dec 12, 2023 1:51 AM
Reply to  Kalle Müller

“If you loose your job for not taking the jab – that’s violence.”
“violence just means “physical force”

You contradict yourself.

In previous comment I gave you an example why context is needed. We must know why violence has been committed to be able to have a good judgement. In general, people are not violent unless they’ve been cornered before.
Also, I guess you agree with a presumption of innocence.

States are different can of worms, they are legalized and institutionalized violence.

Kalle Müller
Kalle Müller
Dec 12, 2023 2:28 PM
Reply to  mik

My mind manages to see no contradiction. 😉

Taking away your job and thus taking away your ability feed yourself and perhaps your family is physical violence. Food is a physical matter. The lack of it means death, the end of you physical existence.

I still don’t think that the “why” of the violence alters it being violence.

But I totally agree with you about states being institutionalized violence. That’s all they are.

And that is the crux of the matter:

Hopkins sees capitalism as the main problem. I see the existence of states as the main problem. Without legalized violence in the hand of the state, capitalism wouldn’t be problematic. It would just be a tool to handle complex social systems.

mik
mik
Dec 13, 2023 5:23 AM
Reply to  Kalle Müller

I concur, to push society into scamdemic schizophrenia that in a process brings about ostracizing a lot of people, that is in a realm of maximum violence. I would said, war is in the same class of violence, a physical manifestation of maximum violence.

Well, there is also a violence it is blasphemous to talk about. Women are using verbal and emotional violence, weapon of choice (damn, I’ve seen, damn, seeing, a lot of mastery), and that sometimes is a prelude to physical violence.

Of course, violence is a problem. What to do? I think Tjeerd Andringa has a point, to paraphrase him: Knowledge is about identifying, solving a problem, wisdom is about preventing a problem.

For the beginning I think, anarchistic society would need better “rules”, grounded in ethics. “Axioms” of the society should be expressed in affirmative way, non-violence is not in this form.

So, if we are talking about Values for anarchistic society Fairness is just necessarily among them (freedom,……..), certainly I can bring down a good argument for that.

And, we came to capitalism that is not fitting the bill in regard to Fairness, well….., with bad reputation in history, it is also detrimental to Values in general as CJ Hopking beautifully nailed it down.

Damn…I need some sleep….to be continued…..you’ll be notified

Kalle Müller
Kalle Müller
Dec 18, 2023 11:14 AM
Reply to  mik

But who is to enforce those “better “rules”” ? That’s a hard one.

Perhaps Anarchy works best if the people involved make up their appropriate rules on the fly.

Consider this scenario: A two way crossing with four motorists arriving at the same time. The usual rules don’t work in this case. Who got the right of way? The one to the right of you ? (I live in Germany…)

I was one of those 4 motorists twice already in my motorist’s career. Within seconds the four of us had managed to get on with our driving. One always gives hand waving signs meaning ” I give up my ROW. And after that the problem is solved by the old rule (right before left, or the other way around).

I think a lot of societal problems would be solved in a similar fashion if there was “global anarchy”

mik
mik
Dec 18, 2023 3:58 PM
Reply to  Kalle Müller

It took me same time to finish my “tractate” on capitalism, it’s available here.

Proposed traffic scenario is quite trivial compared to global anarchy. What was necessary to things played out well was all participants to be aware of each other and not being jerks or idiots. Implicit was also a possibility of a crash if they failed to negotiate well, and that was no-choice for anyone involved. Therefore, it was easy, non many people involved, immediate bad consequences in case of failure.

You said who will enforce rules….isn’t this a way of thinking that belongs to the current paradigm?

If the rules are good, appropriate, then I see no problem abiding to them. Enforcement of them would hence be a minor problem and can be solved however, might be on the fly, that is not what I’m interested about. What to do to prevent problems to occur at all, to reduce them to the best of our abilities, that is a field of my interest.

I said, ethics/morality have to be the basis for rules. Ethics/morality should be kind of “constitution” for anarchy and they are not about to be “made up”, because their nature is about to be discovered, recognized, understood, but also to be believed in (faith).
Some people are having problem when I say it is about faith, too. I claim, an anarchist is having a faith that there is an innate goodness in people. That of course doesn’t mean everybody are good, but it means that bad people wouldn’t be (aren’t) a serious problem. Whatever you might think about the current state of affairs on the world, there is still more goodness than badness among the people.

A mental experiment:
Try to envision a viable society that would be founded on badness.
The same, but with non-fairness.

It is impossible to have a viable society founded on badness or non-fairness, therefore, in this instances there is no choice, but only understanding, recognition and faith.

Btw, monkeys, social animals, understand, recognize and demand fairness. On the other side, people are indoctrinated that “life is not fair”, in a sense that this IS a normal state of affairs.

I might sound very philosophical, but ethics/morality are the second metaphysics, so it is just the proper way to tackle the thing.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 10, 2023 8:54 PM

Locked comment! Slipped a little bit, then, but not by that much !!!

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 11, 2023 2:46 AM

Accidental. It’s unlocked now! A2

Willem
Willem
Dec 10, 2023 7:58 PM

‘ Our reality changes from day to day,’

No, it doesn’t. Their reality is what the news prints as reality and that’s it. People are very consistent in following the reality of the press. The news may be inconsistent in what reality is, the readers of the news are not: the news=reality. Which is also the reason why many people who read the news, especially the so called ‘experts’ who all read the news, want to become part of the news. Only if they see themselves in the news, they know that they exist. ‘I am in the news, therefore I exist.’

Pathetic.

Christine Duffy
Christine Duffy
Dec 11, 2023 7:26 AM
Reply to  Willem

Yes, and it seems that the news watchers also suffer from, I hear the news therefore I exist, the news is like an instruction leaflet on what BS you are supposed to follow today, and you can be comforted by this. It’s like OCD or stimming, v strange.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 10, 2023 7:40 PM

Shohei Ohtani is on a quick road to become a billionaire at 29. Taylor Swift will be a billionaire very soon, as will Lebron James and Magic Johnson, Lionel Messi, and a whole host of other sports and entertainment people. Youtube acts can make you a multi-millionaire overnight. That’s where global capitalism is taking us. I’m not sure what global capitalism has to do with antisemitism, other than things that can’t be talked about on this blog, but the game has surely changed when you can sell things to 8 billion people instead of a 100 million.

judith
judith
Dec 11, 2023 2:03 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Kudos to them. I’d be earning that, too, if I could.
I don’t care how much money people earn as long as they don’t use it to kill and harm people with weapons, vaxxines, lies, false arrests, imprisonment, human trafficing, propoganda, censorship, pollution, and all those other mean and inhuman things.
Have had it, but be nice.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 11, 2023 4:04 PM
Reply to  judith

Well, the more they make, the less everyone else gets. This is the same system giving the wealth and power to those you mention. You might be OK with that kind of system, but I’m not.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Dec 12, 2023 5:19 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Yeah. Whoopdedoo.

Meanwhile, better ball players and musicians languish in penury. Good system.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Dec 10, 2023 7:08 PM

So, C.J. Hopkins, you have no problem with the trappings of “capitalism”, it’s the ideology of capitalism that is causing difficulty. Can you actually separate the two?
Thanks for let us know your subject was schizophrenia.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 10, 2023 6:56 PM

. . . after a donor threatened to pull $100 million from the university.

The Reich you’ve not previously been allowed to criticise is the conspiracy which controls both sides; i.e. Woke and The Daily Wire. But it seems to be slipping!

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/12/09/university-of-pennsylvania-president-liz-magill-resigns-after-failure-to-condemn-antisemitism
University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill Resigns After . . .

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 11, 2023 7:45 PM

This is causing an unintended outcome on the conservative and rightist side of the spectrum.

Breitbart article: Top comment and replies (Up/Down votes)

CragBaad [opening]
So she got fired for antisemitism? Her transgender support wasn’t enough? Why is the unrighteousness of antisemitism more egregious than her support of sexual abomination? Her swim team policy was completely ridiculous.
(233/6)

Jake < CragBaad
How about the fact that no one has had to step down over the institutionalized anti-Whiteism or anti-Christianity at Harvard, UPenn or any other schools.
(192/4)

Mara319 < Jake
Because the Whites and the Christians don't give the university the kind of money Zionist Semites do.
(72/57)

JackieM < Mara319
Correct.
These universities institutionalized anti-White/Christian hatred for decades and there were no repercussions.
Now funding is being instantly cut over ''anti semitism''.
For instance Jewlsh donors such as Leon Cooperman who donated around $50 million to Columbia University is suspending any further financial contributions.
An Israeli billionaire called Ofer Idan resigned from a Harvard board.
Another Jewlsh billionaire Bill Ackman called for ''leftist'' protestors to be doxxed so that they could never be hired by Wall Street.
They were ok with funding butt sex and Hate Whltey. They were OK with traditional historic America being deconstructed and destroyed. They were OK with BLM protests. NOW they have a problem when Jews/Israel are critized.
(106/10)

Jewish Groups Get University Presidents Fired for Antisemitism but Still Support Anti-White Rhetoric
Daily Veracity with Vincent James
Dec 10, 2023
https://rumble.com/v40jpfn-jewish-groups-get-university-presidents-fired-for-antisemitism-but-still-su.html

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 10, 2023 6:30 PM

Yes CJ, you’re on to something here. Sheer inconsistency is the proverbial name of the game.

For example – and it may be the best one – there’s the odd sporadic return of the masks. Now in the good old days, it was accepted that folk needed to build up immunity to bugs. Now I know there’s been a big kerfuffle over whether there really are bugs or whatever – but the previous paradigm seemed to make sense i.e. that folk would have to just get out there and toughen themselves up and, more to the point, didn’t need chemical top-ups. It seemed a robust kinda world – healthy.  

But now you’ve got this successfully implanted notion that this previous self-immunising was “unscientific” and amounts to something called “murderous herd immunity”. Now “we need vaxxes”.

Except – and this is where the inconsistencies start – nobody, not even the most criminally gullible, rabid hypochondriac could really keep up with the all vaxxes, prescription of which was spiralling out of control anyway.

And then there is the parallel concern about masks – which we were told we had to keep wearing but even then there was a lot of stupid inconsistencies around as it seemed that some folk could take them off for e.g. certain events – most prominently protests over murdered black folk. It was as if the little bugs would automatically suspend their murderous transmissions whenever the circumstances meant “a good cause”. Such civilised little bugs!

And then after innumerable blabberings and situations, the masks are back – but in a sporadic random kinda way. And would you believe there are even some twitter channels still blathering about how we should resign ourselves to years of further masking – which, they insist, are just a minor inconvenience? Yes, you’ve heard it before and it’s still being said.

And it seems that, for a certain percentage of the populace, this kind of dreary nonsense can happily continue for another decade or two.

And then there’s the “non-binary” “transgender” stuff whereby there are more than just two genders – even though “we” still insist on saying “trans men” and “trans women”. And is “non-binary” the same as “transgender”? I have no idea but I meet various ill-mannered folks willing to tell me off for my “incorrect usage”. And I no longer have the patience to look up the latest theological investigations on the matter.

So this is that. And that is this – sometimes but not all the time. And it’s really important but not really but it might be etc. These are the principles of news-speak. It’s now Orwell’s world.
 

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Dec 10, 2023 6:50 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And after all the hormonal “therapies” these people have had it’s a struggle for a bloke in his 40s or 50s to grow a beard… with big droopy tits and a fat arse 😂

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 10, 2023 10:24 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

Look around, that’s the case already without any of the trans-meds. Not sure about the beard but the rest I see every day in my neck of the woods.

judith
judith
Dec 11, 2023 2:05 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Not in mine.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 10, 2023 6:58 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I mean – the entire notion of consistency (surely a fundamental scientific concept!) seems to be out the window.

Imagine e.g. that the covid story was actually true. That there really had been a deadly virus that needed everyone to mask up. There really would have been bodies stacked up in the street. And no-one would have had to be told scary stories. The media would be trying to calm everyone down. Indeed, the very fact that the media was constantly trying to scare the hell out of you was a fair indication that it was all bollocks.

The point is that, were the covid story true, the media coverage would have been consistent.

But it was always this “maybe/maybe not” – which was passed off with the “well we just don’t know” angle. Which isn’t a good cover. Since a truly deadly virus would be one in which we did know one thing for sure and that is that it is truly deadly.

But the “shock and awe” angle meant a total lack of critical application in the vast majority of the populace. And by hell did that lead to some major punch ups with me and some friends. So I just stopped even trying to talk to them about it.

And down through the last three years everything kept changing and the draconian rules handed down kept changing. Until inevitably there was an increasingly casual attitude – which in itself was interesting. It was as if folk just forgot it … until somebody mentioned it and suddenly it was back to the scary scary headless chicken act … until they forgot about it again.
 

EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave
Dec 11, 2023 12:10 PM
Reply to  George Mc

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mgeo
mgeo
Dec 11, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  EarlofSuave

Also, pre-covid tourists sitting at tables outside cafes in crowded tourist destinations, waiting for that special virus.

In the photo, I see just the response of a harassed manager trying to keep his businesss afloat.

ariel
ariel
Dec 11, 2023 5:03 PM
Reply to  mgeo

It’s alright (all right) there’ll be another one along in a minute.
Then three pandemics came along at the same time.

Susan Siens
Susan Siens
Dec 10, 2023 10:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Your notes about masks! Whenever I go to town (20 miles away) I see the folks with the face diapers and it’s amazing how many of them wear them under their nose, obviously ill-fitted, around their necks, etc. What, may I ask, is the point? What is positive is that most people are not wearing them at all.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 10:57 AM
Reply to  Susan Siens

To avoid trouble from Karens. You wear it under the nose so you can breath freely.
The moment you see Karen you immediately draw the mask up over your nose, and after you passed Karen, you pull the mask down under your nose again.
Simple. Survival technique.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Dec 11, 2023 1:13 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“Which is the rooster, which is the hen?”

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Dec 10, 2023 6:29 PM

I suggest lightening up with the labels because the world isn’t as black and white as propagandists like to tell us. For example, Nazis are often portrayed as a loud, overbearing, stereotype (one that belongs more with Prussian Junkers) but the reality is probably closer to that of the TV series “Seventeen Moments of Spring” where everyone is portrayed as human, something that’s realistic but also at the same time extremely menacing.

The serious problems arise when cultural brakes are taken off bad behavior. This is at the core of I/P and like Germany decades ago is something that didn’t happen overnight. Tolerating discrimination leads inexorably to condoning it which leads to dehumanization of “the other” and eventually the idea that this other is merely a sort of vermin that has to be tolerated until it can be eliminated. There might be a relative handful of truly evil people plotting and planning but the bulk is just made up of you and me, going along with the program and making up what Hannah Arendt termed “The Banality of Evil”. There is no excuse for what’s happening in Gaza, for example — not even the potential military necessity or political expediency of Warsaw in 1944 comes close — but we’re supposed to accept it because the wall of propaganda says so. Its really just a logical extension, an extrapolation, of what my sister and her husband witnessed (and experienced) in the mid-1980s while working for the UN in the area. We turned a blind eye to what was in front of us then and we witness the consequences now. (How many other places must this have happened in?)

The way to stop this is for us, as individuals, to Just Say No. Be aware of propaganda and so beware of it. Watch out especially for the casual remark, the seemingly relevant but still somewhat out of place statement in a written article that doesn’t add information but reinforces a stereotype or ‘official’ historical narrative. Challenge the orthodoxy (but prepared to live with the consequences…..).

Dallas Beaufort
Dallas Beaufort
Dec 10, 2023 6:01 PM

Psychosis, control and the cordless vacuum cleaner?

scamdemic
scamdemic
Dec 10, 2023 5:36 PM

What a depressing world this has become. Lately I have been listening to Christmas carols just to try and keep my sanity. At least they’re cheerful.

But, for those of you who are masochistic, I offer this too real music video…

https://rumble.com/v3zwymj-viva-palestine.html

NickM
NickM
Dec 10, 2023 5:17 PM

“False, deceptive, and MISLEADING” Pfizer sued for Fraud by Texas AG

https://youtu.be/R0SU6LEPDps?si=Yy0bPHHvSIqobN_1

Way to go: Strengthen civil society against privateer plutocrats.

“You can own what you like but you can’t own the government” — Xi Jinping to Jack Ma.

Jonathan K X
Jonathan K X
Dec 10, 2023 4:55 PM

There will be no more Trumps

There have actually been at least two more Trumps. TPTB drove essentially the same psyop in 2019 in Brazil with Bolsonaro, and they’re repeating it this year in Argentina with Milei. Brazil even had its own “capital riot” earlier this year after Bolsonaro’s defeat. If the pattern holds, it wouldn’t be surprising to see a Milei defeat followed by a “capital riot” in Buenos Aires four years from now.

It could also be argued that the UK’s BoJo and Italy’s Meloni are both characters who’ve been following similar scripts. On a lighter note, three of the five also have something else in common: unkempt hairstyles.

They just keep recycling the same narratives confident that the majority of the proletariat will fail to connect the dots. Divide and conquer, then rinse and repeat.

Renn
Renn
Dec 11, 2023 9:24 AM
Reply to  Jonathan K X

Speaking of disliked-by-the-TPTB politicians who win elections and also happen to have unkempt hairstyles, you can add the Netherlands’ Geert Wilders to the list, who just won an election a few weeks ago despite the media constantly calling him “far-right” and such.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 10, 2023 3:12 PM

Again, for my sensitive pro-capitalist readers, I have no problem with private property, and manufacturing and buying and selling things, and all that other basic “capitalism” stuff. I’m talking about what happens when we take our hands off the reins of society, and let global capitalism run society for us. What happens is, capitalism disintegrates our values, all of our values, not just the ones you don’t like. We end up living in a global market, a global market where there are no values, and nothing means anything, because anything means anything.

Then why not give it a more accurate label; i.e. “Neoliberalism”? Is it because you really do mean those things which you claim not to mean? Or maybe you’re appealing to the old-school Marxist demographic? Safe, reliable dollar!

BTW: I’m pro-freedom rather than “pro-capitalist”. Some people fight for medical freedom, some for religious freedom, some for property rights, some for freedom of expression, some for the right to live as their true self – whatever that might be. All these people are needed in the fight for freedom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
Neoliberalism, also neo-liberalism,[1] is a term used to signify the late-20th century political reappearance of 19th-century ideas associated with free-market capitalism after it fell into decline following the Second World War.[2][3][4] A prominent factor in the rise of conservative and right-libertarian organizations, political parties, and think tanks, and predominantly advocated by them,[5][6] it is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization, including privatization, deregulation, globalization, free trade, monetarism, austerity, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[7][8][9][10][11] The neoliberal project is also focused on designing institutions and has a political dimension.[12][13][14][15] The defining features of neoliberalism in both thought and practice have been the subject of substantial scholarly debate.[16][17]

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 10, 2023 10:25 PM

More like neo-feudalism.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Dec 11, 2023 5:46 PM

“Some people fight for medical freedom, some for religious freedom, some for property rights, some for freedom of expression, some for the right to live as their true self – whatever that might be. All these people are needed in the fight for freedom.”

And, considering how many freedom fights there are, there is no way to avoid these people fighting each other because this freedom infringes on that freedom, just no way.

The idea of freedom is one, and is all-encompassing and conflict-less, anything else is a distorted, one-sided, subjective idea of it.

Recall that the US Constitution encourages the emergence of as many groups as possible fighting (see for instance Federalist 10) for every cause conceivable as a means to minimise them uniting against the real cause of their grievances.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 11, 2023 7:17 PM

It’s a practical possibility for society to balance most legitimate claims and assertions to freedom – and to curtail and punish most illegitimate infringements on freedom. The important principle, here, is that of Due Process. Due Process includes the definitions of legitimate and illegitimate. It also includes the provision that the rules and procedures must be applied reasonably, fairly and equitably.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Dec 12, 2023 10:00 AM

Yes, the justice system will certainly settle one way or another any claim put forward to it, but we can’t always say that justice will be served because the justice system itself is founded on biased premises not everyone shares. Agreed, it tries to be fair but it can’t help operate with its presuppositions and anyway one always “wins” a case against the other party rather that justice being served.

A case was commented by French philosopher Jean-Claude Michéa (can’t link to it because I can’t remember in which talk it was) of a Parisian who moved to the French countryside only to discover that a nearby farm was unbearable to him with the noises and voices of the animals starting early in the morning, very different from urban life. This has gone for some time complaining to the farmer the unsupportable nuisance his farm was to him, although the farm was in no way any noisier than before and it was just how country life was.

The Parisian sued the farmer to justice alleging his right to a peaceful living and won his case, and,the farmer was summoned to move elsewhere.

In this case, even if it was the farmer who won, we would still be hurting a right . Both expressed a legitimate right when taken by themselves, but the affirmation of each right can only be gotten by hitting the other right. And the justice system has just to settle the case within the biases of the time and place. Perhaps of this had happened a few decades ago, the farmer would have “won”.

One might object that it was the Parisian’s fault not to check for noise before he bought the place, but these things happen and it isn’t the noise, it could be anything and one can never be sure that what one considers one’s right won’t be infringed by an unpredictable event, legitimate in its own, such as the construction of a building that would obstruct the views, etc.

My point is just that freedom, justice and rights as understood are approximate ideas to the real things, and no guarantee that, within the current system of justice, legitimate rights are not hurt.

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 10, 2023 2:27 PM

A masterpiece of the “Trump is Hitler” genre:
https://dumptheguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/06/donald-trump-sean-hannity-dictator-day-one-response-iowa-town-hall

Leaving aside the “dictator” headline, there’s “his use of the term “vermin”, famously employed by historical dictators including Adolf Hitler” in the text. It was also employed by Anuerin Bevan in his Tories are “lower than vermin” remark. Perhaps Trump is a Labourite! Or perhaps it’s just rhetoric (and pretty poor rhetoric at that). BTW I’m no Trump fan – ‘Operation Warpspeed’ and all that – but it is fun to keep reminding Trump-hating leftists of the lack of new wars on his watch.

The “drill, drill, drill” comment is probably more significant long-term. It’s a classic fake binary – Trump’s destructiveness or “the green new deal”.

The Presidential election is one of the delights that 2024 is going to offer. Is utter chaos the plan – or is the selection readymade and ready to ride to the rescue at the last moment? A former President’s “wife” seems available….

ariel
ariel
Dec 10, 2023 6:01 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Aren’t there ‘two’ of them who/which would fill that description?

petunia petherington
petunia petherington
Dec 10, 2023 1:54 PM

Hopkins..stop with this nonsense, there is no new Reich…the last one ended in 1945!

ariel
ariel
Dec 10, 2023 6:12 PM

He (CJH) is defining it as a mental/psychological state, which if obeyed unquestioningly by the judiciary, police, security agencies and military, then what? It’s not going to be exactly the same as the 1930s. We didn’t have Davos and the WEF, social media, the last 3 years of Covid abuse, or even the utterly corrupt UN and WHO. He is at the blunt end of what amounts to persecution on utterly false charges. And he’s giving us a blow-by-blow. He’s a kind of whistleblower. Should he lie down quietly while they run the State juggernaut over him?
That’s what would be called ‘really taking it lying down.’

underground poet
underground poet
Dec 10, 2023 9:33 PM
Reply to  ariel

It must be troubling b/c the media cant stop talking about all the mental health crimes committed by these profiled individuals when its obviously the cost of living that creates the mental health issues.

petunia petherington
petunia petherington
Dec 10, 2023 10:59 PM
Reply to  ariel

Boo hoo…pass me an onion! 🥳

Belle Epoche
Belle Epoche
Dec 10, 2023 1:28 PM

USrael’s lying vassal Scholzhttps://bnn.network/politics/medvedev-counters-scholzs-claims-on-europes-energy-crisis-a-tale-of-accusations/

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1733486346566599149

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Dec 10, 2023 1:00 PM

Go ahead, those of you who call yourselves Christians, try this … give everything you have to the poor, chase the money-changers out of your churches. See how fast you are branded “terrorists.”

***
The just released documentary film about privately-owned central banking, “The Great Taking”, fully shares the perspective of Mr. Hopkins – in a non-psychotic/real reality-describing kind of way:

‘The Great Taking’: Documentary Film Confronts Private Central Banking. – THE ONENESS of HUMANITY (wordpress.com)

Martha
Martha
Dec 10, 2023 10:38 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

I watched that last night on the Children’s Health Defense site. It was really well done. Economics made understandable to even the average mind (me). And he gives a call to action at the end. I’ve often wondered why the middle managers of the globalists’ world don’t see that they are just as disposable as the rest of us. They and their families, also, will be forced to be jabbed, chipped, tracked, and crammed into a 15 minute city. Maybe the Senators and celebrities will get extra rations, and maybe a 25 minute city, but I doubt it. They are the ones whose rebellion could bring this all to a halt.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 11:21 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

We Christian’s Kingdom is not of this world.
This was told to Caesar Augustus, to Queen Elizabeth, to the Pope of Rome, to Bill Gates, Anal Schwab and to Donald Trump, and we are ready to say it again: “Our Kingdom is not of this world”.

Give the money exchangers all the money they want. As long as we have our trailer park and our Surrection, we are happy for what we got, because we have each other.

We dont criticize the government, the digital prison nor the central bankers. They can do what the f… they wanna do, as long as they stay the f… out of Oklahoma City..

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 2:29 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

I dont believe in conspiracy theories. I believe in my government.
Because my government would never do a thing like this as they all have a degree from Yale University and Harvard.
Therefore they have knowledge to what they are doing, and you have not!  😊 

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Dec 10, 2023 12:35 PM

“I’m not suggesting there’s a bunch of capitalists sitting around in a room somewhere in their shiny black top hats planning all of this”

That’s where we differ.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Dec 10, 2023 4:55 PM

They’re something deeper, and infinitely more sinister, than mere “capitalists.”

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Dec 10, 2023 10:20 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

“Shiny black top hats” is my new go-to phrase.

SBTH ?

There must be some mileage there ?

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Dec 11, 2023 12:26 AM

TPTBSBTH.

EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave
Dec 10, 2023 6:17 PM

They used to meet on an island, but the owner died…

Victor G.
Victor G.
Dec 10, 2023 7:05 PM
Reply to  EarlofSuave

Actually, they need him in a small apartheid state in western Asia to help plan a genocide … He was drafted into the major league.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Dec 10, 2023 7:02 PM

Gore Vidal, who ought to know, says they don’t have to hold meetings. They all think alike.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 10, 2023 12:17 PM

So chaos theory ain’t a theory after all.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Dec 12, 2023 10:54 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Its a reality show.