A Nanny State Idiocracy: A Tale of Too Many Laws and Too Little Freedom
John & Nisha Whitehead
“Whether the mask is labeled fascism, democracy, or dictatorship of the proletariat, our great adversary remains the apparatus—the bureaucracy, the police, the military.”
Simone Weil, French philosopher
We are caught in a vicious cycle of too many laws, too many cops, and too little freedom.
It’s hard to say whether we’re dealing with a kleptocracy (a government ruled by thieves), a kakistocracy (a government run by unprincipled career politicians, corporations and thieves that panders to the worst vices in our nature and has little regard for the rights of American citizens), or a Nanny State Idiocracy.
Whatever the label, this overbearing despotism is what happens when government representatives (those elected and appointed to work for us) adopt the authoritarian notion that the government knows best and therefore must control, regulate and dictate almost everything about the citizenry’s public, private and professional lives.
The government’s bureaucratic attempts at muscle-flexing by way of overregulation and overcriminalization have reached such outrageous limits that federal and state governments now require on penalty of a fine that individuals apply for permission before they can grow exotic orchids, host elaborate dinner parties, gather friends in one’s home for Bible studies, give coffee to the homeless, let their kids manage a lemonade stand, keep chickens as pets, or braid someone’s hair, as ludicrous as that may seem.
As the Regulatory Transparency Project explains, “There are over 70 federal regulatory agencies, employing hundreds of thousands of people to write and implement regulations. Every year, they issue about 3,500 new rules, and the regulatory code now is over 168,000 pages long.”
In his CrimeADay Twitter feed, Mike Chase highlights some of the more arcane and inane laws that render us all guilty of violating some law or other.
As Chase notes, it’s against the law to try to make an unreasonable noise while a horse is passing by in a national park; to leave Michigan with a turkey that was hunted with a drone; to refill a liquor bottle with different liquor than it had in it when it was originally filled; to offer to buy swan feathers so you can make a woman’s hat with them; to enter a design in the Federal Duck Stamp contest if waterfowl are not the dominant feature of the design; to transport a cougar without a cougar license; to sell spray deodorant without telling people to avoid spraying it in their eyes; and to transport “meat loaf” unless it’s in loaf form.
In such a society, we are all petty criminals.
In fact, Boston lawyer Harvey Silvergate estimates that the average American now unknowingly commits three felonies a day, thanks to an overabundance of vague laws that render otherwise innocent activity illegal and an inclination on the part of prosecutors to reject the idea that there can’t be a crime without criminal intent.
The bigger the government grows, the worse the red tape becomes.
Almost every aspect of American life today, including the job sector, is now subject to this kind of heightened scrutiny and ham-fisted control.
Whereas 70 years ago, one out of every 20 U.S. jobs required a state license, today, almost 1 in 4 American occupations requires a license.
According to business analyst Kaylyn McKenna, more than 41 states require that makeup artists be licensed. Twenty-eight states require a license before you can work as a residential painter. Funeral attendants, whose duties include placing caskets in visitation rooms, arranging flowers and directing mourners, have to be licensed to do so in Kansas, Maine and Massachusetts.
The problem of overregulation has become so bad that, as one analyst notes, “getting a license to style hair in Washington takes more instructional time than becoming an emergency medical technician or a firefighter.”
This is what happens when bureaucrats run the show, and the rule of law becomes little more than a cattle prod for forcing the citizenry to march in lockstep with the government.
Overregulation is just the other side of the coin to overcriminalization, that phenomenon in which everything is rendered illegal, and everyone becomes a lawbreaker.
As policy analyst Michael Van Beek warns, the problem with overcriminalization is that there are so many laws at the federal, state and local levels—that we can’t possibly know them all.
“It’s also impossible to enforce all these laws. Instead, law enforcement officials must choose which ones are important and which are not. The result is that they pick the laws Americans really must follow, because they’re the ones deciding which laws really matter,” concludes Van Beek. “Federal, state and local regulations — rules created by unelected government bureaucrats — carry the same force of law and can turn you into a criminal if you violate any one of them… if we violate these rules, we could be prosecuted as criminals. No matter how antiquated or ridiculous, they still carry the full force of the law. By letting so many of these sit around, just waiting to be used against us, we increase the power of law enforcement, which has lots of options to charge people with legal and regulatory violations.”
Case in point: in New Jersey, in what journalist Billy Binion describes as “yet another example of the effects of overcriminalization, which increases interactions between civilians and police with little benefit to actual public safety,” police went so far as to arrest a teenager and seize other teen’s bicycles for so-called traffic violations and a failure to register their bikes with the state.
This is the police state’s superpower: it has been vested with the authority to make our lives a bureaucratic hell.
That explains how a fisherman can be saddled with 20 years’ jail time for throwing fish that were too small back into the water. Or why police arrested a 90-year-old man for violating an ordinance that prohibits feeding the homeless in public unless portable toilets are also made available. Or how states across the country, in a misguided attempt to disperse homeless populations, have criminalized sitting, sleeping, or resting in public spaces; sharing food with people; and camping in public.
The laws can get downright silly.
For instance, in Florida, it’s against the law to eat a frog that was used in a frog-jumping contest. You could also find yourself passing time in a Florida slammer for such inane activities as singing in a public place while wearing a swimsuit, breaking more than three dishes per day, farting in a public place after 6 pm on a Thursday, and skateboarding without a license.
“Such laws,” notes journalist George Will, “which enable government zealots to accuse almost anyone of committing three felonies in a day, do not just enable government misconduct, they incite prosecutors to intimidate decent people who never had culpable intentions. And to inflict punishments without crimes.”
Unfortunately, the consequences are all too serious for those whose lives become grist for the police state’s mill.
In this way, America has gone from being a beacon of freedom to a locked down nation.
We labor today under the weight of countless tyrannies, large and small, carried out in the so-called name of the national good by an elite class of governmental and corporate officials who are largely insulated from the ill effects of their actions.
We increasingly find ourselves badgered, bullied and browbeaten into bearing the brunt of their arrogance, paying the price for their greed, suffering the backlash for their militarism, agonizing as a result of their inaction, feigning ignorance about their backroom dealings, overlooking their incompetence, turning a blind eye to their misdeeds, cowering from their heavy-handed tactics, and blindly hoping for change that never comes.
The overt signs of the despotism exercised by the increasingly authoritarian regime that passes itself off as the United States government (and its corporate partners in crime) are all around us: censorship, criminalizing, shadow banning and de-platforming of individuals who express ideas that are politically incorrect or unpopular; warrantless surveillance of Americans’ movements and communications; SWAT team raids of Americans’ homes; shootings of unarmed citizens by police; harsh punishments meted out to schoolchildren in the name of zero tolerance; community-wide lockdowns and health mandates that strip Americans of their freedom of movement and bodily integrity; armed drones taking to the skies domestically; endless wars; out-of-control spending; militarized police; roadside strip searches; privatized prisons with a profit incentive for jailing Americans; fusion centers that spy on, collect and disseminate data on Americans’ private transactions; and militarized agencies with stockpiles of ammunition, to name some of the most appalling.
Yet as egregious as these incursions on our rights may be, it’s the endless, petty tyrannies—the heavy-handed, punitive-laden dictates inflicted by a self-righteous, Big-Brother-Knows-Best bureaucracy on an overtaxed, overregulated, and underrepresented populace—that illustrate so clearly the degree to which “we the people” are viewed as incapable of common sense, moral judgment, fairness, and intelligence, not to mention lacking a basic understanding of how to stay alive, raise a family, or be part of a functioning community.
In exchange for the promise of an end to global pandemics, lower taxes, lower crime rates, safe streets, safe schools, blight-free neighborhoods, and readily accessible technology, health care, water, food and power, we’ve opened the door to lockdowns, militarized police, government surveillance, asset forfeiture, school zero tolerance policies, license plate readers, red light cameras, SWAT team raids, health care mandates, overcriminalization, overregulation and government corruption.
We relied on the government to help us safely navigate national emergencies (terrorism, natural disasters, global pandemics, etc.) only to find ourselves forced to relinquish our freedoms on the altar of national security, yet we’re no safer (or healthier) than before.
We asked our lawmakers to be tough on crime, and we’ve been saddled with an abundance of laws that criminalize almost every aspect of our lives.
We wanted criminals taken off the streets, and we didn’t want to have to pay for their incarceration. What we’ve gotten is a nation that boasts the highest incarceration rate in the world, with many doing time for relatively minor, nonviolent crimes, and a private prison industry fueling the drive for more inmates.
We wanted law enforcement agencies to have the necessary resources to fight the nation’s wars on terror, crime and drugs. What we got instead were militarized police decked out with M-16 rifles, grenade launchers, silencers, battle tanks and hollow point bullets—gear designed for the battlefield, more than 80,000 SWAT team raids carried out every year (many for routine police tasks, resulting in losses of life and property), and profit-driven schemes that add to the government’s largesse such as asset forfeiture, where police seize property from “suspected criminals.”
We fell for the government’s promise of safer roads, only to find ourselves caught in a tangle of profit-driven red light cameras, which ticket unsuspecting drivers in the so-called name of road safety while ostensibly fattening the coffers of local and state governments.
This is what happens when the American people get duped, deceived, double-crossed, cheated, lied to, swindled and conned into believing that the government and its army of bureaucrats—the people we appointed to safeguard our freedoms—actually have our best interests at heart.
As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, the problem with these devil’s bargains is that there is always a catch, always a price to pay for whatever it is we valued so highly as to barter away our most precious possessions.
In the end, such bargains always turn sour.
Originally published via The Rutherford Institute
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Law and authority are at the core of the State. The State is an organization that has invaded society, is ruling over society, the people and the land.
The State has placed itself as the sovereign power in place of God, nature and human life.
The State has the monopoly of violence, and it uses it in the form of law. All state laws are quite arbitrary, so there can be laws without any justification, moral or benefit. Everyone already knows that lying, stealing and murdering is wrong, but the State has made even these lawful. The State itself is a lying, stealing and murdering machine.
Pjotr Kropotkin wrote in 1886 about this perverted machine that is working not for our benefit but against it:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-law-and-authority
What Simone Weil is describing is the apparatus of the State. The State makes war legal, even necessary. All wars are wars against humans, against humanity.
The quote was taken from this article:
https://libcom.org/article/reflections-war-simone-weil
Re “It’s hard to say whether we’re dealing with a kleptocracy (a government ruled by thieves), a kakistocracy (a government run by unprincipled career politicians, corporations and thieves that panders to the worst vices in our nature and has little regard for the rights of American citizens), or a Nanny State Idiocracy.”
All three clearly. We have the same problem in the UK but not quite to the same degree I think.
I sometimes feel it is the idiocracy that is the worst. There is an awful lot of Stupid about.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2024/04/07/long-stupid/
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2023/09/23/g-is-for-guidance/
Lurking behind everything nefarious you will find the Big M. M for money. In the case of bureaucracy, that money (besides outright bribery) would be the yearly BUDGET. A budget is one thing above all else in bureaucracy: an imperative to justify whatever amount the Agency is asking for.
And the quickest, surest way to justify the budget is by showing all the regulations you formulated during the previous year. No regulations = No increase (and possibly no budget at all). If an Agency can regulate everyone and everything nine ways to Sunday, it is guaranteed a big increase over last year’s budget.
The Silent Killers: Electric cars are “twice as lethal for pedestrians”.
Proposal to revive the old Red Flag warning for horseless carriages, or for EVs to emit a compulsory un-Silencer whine.
A car ticket joke from Whose Line is it Anyway:
“My licence is in order”
“Yes but the Law says you must keep a fish in your handbag”
“I have a fish”
“Yes but it’s not in your handbag”.
Measure for Measure.
One of Shakespeare’s problem plays; it concerns a Duke who wants to revive a piece of Vexatious Legislation which has been rusting on the statute books for years, is not sure how the public will receive it. So the wily Lawmaker goes into temporary retirement and appoints a subordinate to take the flak.
To my friends, everything; to my enemies, the law.
—Oscar Benavides, President of Peru, 1933-39
“Michigan wildlife officials charged a woman for taking care of wildlife without a permit then seized six animals from her refuge and killed them.” Feb 27 2021, Fox13 News.
Germany as a nation is so infantilised and dependent on authority that the people there and the media called their former chancellor, Angela Merkel, “mummy” (“Mutti”).
It seems to me that the nanny state is desired by the majority of the people.
Germany’s ‘ex-Führer’ Merkel did more to damage German national pride than any of its previous leaders. Yet, sadly, most German people loved her for it.
Her disdain for Germany was captured in the short clip below, at a rally, where her face visibly showed what she thought of the German national flag.
https://m.youtube.com/watcuh?v=westm8bmf2E
A treasonous individual, among many, placed in positions of authority to destroy Germany, Europe and the West.
Well, >90% of the Germans backed her and her politics up. She did what Germany wanted.
< It seems to me that the nanny state is desired by the majority of the people. >
To me as well. Simone Weil’s “apparatus—the bureaucracy, the police, the military” is the apparatus of the people, largely staffed by the people, and invoked by the people.
” I’ll have the Law on you” is a popular saying.
So is, “Call the cops!”
“Where was our army?” — patriotic meme.
Go on fighting the good fight to repeal “Vexatious Litigation”. Plato wasted the ripest years of his life trying to frame a minimum of essential Laws, and found the task beyond even his enormouus power as a philosopher; let alone little Simone Weil in her post-War bubble. It is a very old and very dismal fight, because:
“Against stupidity even the Gods are powerless”.
It seems that the EU$A is ruled today from the Top Down by stupidity coupled with malice. Laughter may help to dispel them; also there is a welcome resurgence of fellow-feeling among the younger generation.
“Before you rush to judge your neighbour, imagine yourself walking a mile in his shoes” — Rabbi Hillel of Babylon.
I think of her as the Mark Angel, rather like Mark of the Beast. I have friends who lived in Germany. The wife said it tended to be the women wives who ruled the roost.
Like the pharaohs, they love their mummies!
Pending, pending, pending, it’s been more than 6 hours?? What is going on? Is this censorship for real?
Yes, admin, me too – the same as George Mc. I do not like the sound of this, I did not expect censorship here. It is quite shocking!
My comment is a bit critical but it also praises this site. Please do nota allow some dodgy institute or dodgy corporate think-tank to ruin you reputation and I really mean this the way I say it. Thank you for immediately posting my comment. Now, now…
Relax Vernon. Every single post I have made [not very often] has been pending. They get post a week after the event. That’s why I don’t pay them. You make outstanding videos BTW.
I like the Rutherford posts, someone needs to be untangling the ‘public/secret/security/justice sector’. I would not want it too radical though.
You might find that the untangling of the ‘public/secret/security/justice sector’ is far too entangled to untangle by mere mortals. There are also far too many secret societies and occult lodges at work that makes the mind boggle, which operate within the global network and hierarchy of control. Power and control therefore goes way beyond the so-called ‘public/secret/security/justice sector’ which is just a phenomenal expression of what’s behind it. We are conditioned to look no further, and to believe that what we can’t see or ‘untangle’ can’t harm us lol!
A week later? You’re just a plain fibber, aren’t you 😜
You know, trust has to be earned, and that’s quite a separate matter to freedom of speech. In every avenue of life our freedoms are tempered by trust. Yet people are very quick here to act all surprised and accuse us of being controlled opposition etc. whenever they don’t get completely free run of the place, no matter how they behave.
Come on guys. Let’s just apply common decency and common sense into the mix. Thanks, A2
Sam – the Adnim No.2, thank you for replying and promptly posting my comments, they are well intended.
I think censorship is one of the worst threats to humanity as we stand now and I get censored A LOT. I think you can understand it well as I imagine I am not the only one…
I would welcome more ideas how to fight this deadly plague.
Kind regards!
Small screw up on my part. Your comment is below. Another admin released it from prison while I was asleep. I had to stay up all night fixing an unrelated problem on Sunday, so I sort of passed out last night!
A small site like Offg, with minimal staff, hosting a wide range of alt views while also trying to champion free and open discourse, quickly becomes a target for prolific trolls and spammers, and even more quickly becomes the target of criticism and ridicule if we appear to drop the ball! We’d love all the policies we employ to mitigate these various challenges to be instantaneous, and with a larger budget we could well achieve that! However, on a small budget it’s unfortunately a question of weighing resources against user experience and reaching the right compromise. I’m sure you get it 🙂
Admin feels we have the right formula at present which fulfils our brief and benefits our community in widest possible way, and we’re not looking to change that up any time soon. If your comment goes astray again, all we ask is a little patience and a little faith. Unless you’re threatening physical violence or something, your comment will always appear and is always welcome. Be as critical as you like 😉
Thanks Mr Coleman, and thanks for all your well-written and thought-provoking vlogs over the years.
Sam – Admin2
Dear Admin – I am pending again. Please allow me entrance before my post disappears over the time horizon.
Small screw up on my part. Apologies!
These are more than “small screw up(s).” I have gauged over a long period of time that in general the attention span of OffG commenters (perhaps readers too) is one and a half days.
Example: in with this very article’s comments are several dated 5/22/2024 – just a day ago. And there is no response other than one did get an upvote.
Yes, it enhances this site’s appeal to keep posting new articles; but I’m not sure the fast and furious pace jives well with the site’s reputation for having “critical thinkers” for readers/commenters. How critical is thought that evaporates in less than 48 hours?
Thanks for the brusque dressing down, however you’ll have to forgive me passing it through my mental ‘offg filter’, since these things can get blown up and mostly it’s just a storm in a teacup.
I acknowledged a small screw up on my part, and that’s all I’m going to acknowledge. I think you’re dealt with very fairly, Howard, and I hope you appreciate offg a little more than it comes across here. In any case, you’ve registered your thoughts, thanks.
Honestly, I do wonder why you have such an unfavourable outlook on this site. I mean, we aren’t the ‘screws’ and this isn’t your digital prison lol, yet to hear some people talk you’d think it was! Perhaps some of our resident trolls are bitter about where they’ve been billeted, but I just can’t figure out the sheer level of antipathy our organic commenters (the ‘critical thinkers’ you say offg is renowned for) seem to feel toward their hosts. Even during covid times there was barely any camaraderie, everyone stood by as admin were insulted every single day by trolls. I guess no one wanted to look like the snitch or the grass or whatever? As always, the naysayers with the loudest voices set the tone, and it seemed like everyone followed along with the classroom dynamic.
I felt like saying at the time “Ok, we can write defiantly about the NWO, but do we have the strength of character to treat admin like human beings and cut the tiresome surliness?”
Despite never having asked this, I’ve long since received my answer lol. It is what it is. It won’t change. And that’s fine.
In any case, enjoy commenting (if you possibly can). 🙂 A2
All during Covid and even beyond, not only did I never complain about Admin’s role but I actively took to task many of these “naysayers.”
This was because Admin did not engage commenters in argument – Admin didn’t have to because it only interceded when an explanation of some feature was in order.
My beef has always been with fellow commenters, not with Admin – and you can’t have failed to notice a certain intolerance toward other views by more than just a couple commenters.
That all changed about a year ago. I don’t know why; but Admin started taking offense at even petty nonsensical complaints – let alone valid complaints.
It’s been a constant source of frustration for many commenters in this forum that there seems to be no rhyme or reason for the “Pending” designation. On Scheer Post, by contrast, every single comment goes through the “Pending” procedure before appearing – at least one doesn’t have to wonder what was wrong with his comment there.
What on earth are you on about, Howard? Your memory of 2020 is very selective. Your unfriendliness and bias just seems more apparent.
[Edit: admin has always been hands on, fyi. We can be a bit on-the-nose but we are open minded and fair, plus we are nice people. Our approach hasn’t changed since 2020, we are the same people. I have no idea why you appear to see the opposite. Perhaps the difference is that your personal views are less compatible with our approach lately? Who knows.
If you disagree with any of the above, link to an example or keep it to yourself!]
I mean I get it, we’re no Scheer Post, that amazing (and totally not plugged into the establishment) site.
Fact is we do one better than them by trying to keep comment as free as possible. I wager we have a much smaller team and get a higher ratio of flak because we dare to question mainstream narratives that other alt sites don’t. Not that you’d have the decency to factor this into your criticism in your current mood, I’m sure.
Since you’re keen to be spokesman for others, do you think we should put everyone into pending indiscriminately from now on then?
Not to draw this tete-a-tete out, but I really don’t understand your position here.
First off, I only mentioned Scheer Post to elaborate on the Pending paradigm – certainly not to present it as a superior news site. Yes, I’ve “gone back” to it because they have numerous articles on the genocide in Palestine. But Covid and 911 make it clear that that site never strays too far from the MSM. One commenter on Scheer Post complained that a comment he posted simply never showed up at all – a comment about 911.
The other thing I can’t help but find rather petty is asking me to link to things I may have noticed a year or more ago. A “Put Up Or Shut Up” request works best where there is an easily accessed Archive to draw from.
I gather you’re not advocating we push everyone into pending then. I don’t think that’d work here, personally.
Also, if you’re faced with going back a year or more for examples of Admin’s heinousness, perhaps it’s time to move on and call it even and turn over a new leaf etc.?
Hello I’m Sam, a human being who also happens to moderate this forum. Nice to meet you, fellow human. A2
Ah, seems like it’s most important to you to be surly at all costs. Colour me surprised.
Off topic a little – though it indicates that the nanny state has a really groovy prog face:
From The Huffington Post:
“Two Thirds Of Parents Disagree With Tories And Think Schools Should Teach Gender Identity
The government has said it should not be taught at all.”
You can see the theatrical props assembling: Us “progressive” parents against those obsolete Tory reactionaries!
“Most parents think schools should teach their children about gender identity, according to a new poll.”
This new poll is from “YouGov” which is “a British international Internet-based market research and data analytics firm headquartered in the UK with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific”. (Wiki)
At this point let no-one be fooled. “The Government” is but one actor in the mighty realm of the ideological stage presentation of our “free West”. And the ceaselessly operating propaganda goons know full well that most of the public like to vent their fury on that Government – who, after all, ALWAYS betray the voter since the gov’s real purpose is to serve the elite. Hence the ready formation of any number of barometers of public taste ready to present “what the people REALLY want” which, surprise surprise, always turns out to be what the elite want anyway!
“Market research company YouGov has found that two-thirds of parents want sex education in schools where pupils are taught that it is possible to be transgender or non-binary.”
Naturally most parents are happy for their kids to be encouraged to reject their birth gender and to start dreaming about getting sawn up.
But here come the bad guys:
“It comes after the government released draft guidance suggesting students should not have any sex education before Year 5, and that all pupils should be banned from learning about gender identity in schools.”
Since this is the big bad Tory govt, we can be assured that “what we really want” is sex education for under 5s and the teaching of “gender identity”.
And just to make sure you get the “groovy prog” point :
“The controversial plan” (banning of the sex/gender teaching) “has been widely criticised and compared to the Thatcherite legislation, Section 28, which prohibited schools from “promoting” homosexuality between 1988 and 2003.”
Marvellous. See what they did there? Trans bollocks is being compared to homosexuality!
Which leads you to wonder how these topics were pitched to the ones polled. Cf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK9djGplznk
“Education secretary Gillian Keegan was unable to explain how widespread the teaching of “inappropriate” material around gender identity is on Thursday when asked about the evidence behind this controversial ban.”
Once again it is the banning of this gender ideology that is considered “controversial”. Oh how our lords and masters love to presuppose that their grubby manipulative notions are popular with everyone!
Reading the links cited in the article above was interesting for what it revealed about the police rank and file viewpoint.
In both the case of 90 yr man who kindly feeds the homeless and the teens riding bikes in the road the wrong way up a one way street, the police stated it was a waste of their time but the law is the law.
It seems common sense has left the building, never to return, with petty minded officers waving their dicks around for no good reason or simply following orders. If only the police followed this to its logical conclusion with regard to bringing real criminals to task. I am sure all of us reading the article could point them in the right direction, where they can reel in the really big fish.
The concept of government and the Constitution is based on fraud.
The true history of the US – examining the actual laws – is not what’s in history books.
When did any of us consent to dystopia? We didn’t. Nobody except a few insiders consented to governments *or* constitutions. Voting doesn’t imply consent; to be ruled, taxed, culled, terrorized with psyops, or controlled and exploited.
There’s no contract between “we the people” and the government. Governments (privately owned corporations) use fraud, deception and fear programs; wars, pandemics and fabricated crises to control and coerce populations. Failing that, they resort to violence.
Violence by the state is sanctified, yet violence by individuals is not. Theft by the state is sanctified, yet theft by individuals is not. Criminal fraud, racketeering, conspiracy and murder by the state is committed with impunity.
Consequently, governments are criminal enterprises.
I follow and admire this site, but a quick click or two made it clear to me that I do not like this Rutheford Institute or the author or the expression ”nanny state” which is highly manipulative and I have to put it bluntly – just stupid.
Please do not give this institute any more air time, you will otherwise lose your hard earned reputation.
The guy who coined the term nany state was of course paid by the tobacco industry to defend smoking and of course, he died of a heart attack, if I remember correctly at the grand age of 56.
Do you get it or not?? Please stand at all times on the right side of history.
< Do you get it or not?? >
I don’t get it. Do you agree with the authors or not — that the U$A has too many Petty and Vexatious Laws?
As for laws against a widespread danger such as smoking and air pollution generally, I am for such laws. I go by common sense (air pollution causes bronchitis, cancer and heart failure) and I don’t care what the Rutherford or any other Institute may say.
Laws laws everywhere laws,
breaking up the family, taxing my mind,
do this don’t do that, cant you see the law.
Do you get it? Censorship is censorship, period. You may not like what other people say or do, but if you are in agreement with silencing anyone then you’re down with full control and censorship. If you want a free society then sometimes you will have to tolerate speech you personally abhor. Period.
Nanny state is quite suitable for government which imposes ever more increasing laws in the hope that this will deal with criminal behaviour. Those who do right get penalised whilst the evil ones ignore them.
The whole COVID 19 nonsense and so called rules were only ever guidance, but to the dim they thought they had to follow them. Thus they forgot to love.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2023/09/23/g-is-for-guidance/
‘Nanny state’ is an anagram of ‘net ny Satan’ and he will trap as many as he can in pointless rules.
Talk about lack of freedom from the State. Totalitarianism also occupies private sector business plans, particularly around AI. The articles below disclose the parameters surrounding development by AI creators Hinton and Altman. Not only do they develop technology requiring a shelved Humanity to be paid digital scanned retina UBI to live out their days without any freedom at all. They also think what they’ve done is for the “benefit of humanity” even though it will autonomously extinct us through war or attrition or unlimited deviousness. Which of us, not in the 1%, would vote to create public policy that forced human beings to “voluntarily” to give up their lives to be made a work-less poverty zombie (less-than-a-slave) on the way to species extinction? We are to be the sacrificial host organism for a Vampire Machine Life? Obviously people like Hinton, Altman and the lunatic 1% suicide cult. How does a human being so compromise their intellect as to cultivate self obliteration?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnd607ekl99o
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/fearing-ai-take-over-godfather-ai-advises-uk-govt-start-ubi
< How does a human being so compromise their intellect as to cultivate self obliteration? >
Freud called it The Death Wish, and it is Nature’s way out. I believe some animals and primitive people have the ability to turn their faces to the wall and die when trapped with the odds seeming too much against them. Hamlet pondered it:
“To be or not to be, that is the question”.
Hi Mr. Whitehead. You’re surely old enough, maybe you remember that great Clash song, “I’m So Bored with the USA”? How prescient.
They have finally arrived, the eagerly awaited specialists. Dr. Nälson Kandela takes a little “breather” after the long journey. https://media.gettr.com/group5/getter/2024/05/20/14/0c22cba6-afbf-963a-029b-0287dda7177a/out.mp4
Wernher from Brown: first aperican moon landing imminent. Typical overengineering. Actually, he just wanted to build a mixer. For particularly large ostrich eggs. The man has certainly achieved more than many Western so-called “politicians”. https://media.gettr.com/group8/getter/2024/05/15/11/2999a7d0-5e84-36c8-a4f2-49d94c751eeb/out.mp4
Is that a Wabblekopter or Hoppomator? The pilot was damn lucky, because if the thing had taken off even a little bit, he would have been dizzy due to the lack of a tail rotor. Fortunately, he had also cheated with the swashplate. So instead of tumbling, he started to hop. Another case of good luck and no sense at all. Can immigrate as a skilled worker!
In the U.S., state and federal legislators, i.e., politicians, are called “law makers”. I’ve wondered how long we’ll keep needing new laws. I mean, will there ever come a time that we don’t, or will we just keep piling new laws on top of new laws until there is nothing left to make a law about? A law for everything, there you go, we did it! And is the fact that we call them law makers actually egging them on, like putting pressure on them to make more and more laws? Maybe we need to stop calling them law makers and just call them crooks, like it used to be.
There’s this disgusting commercial airing in my parts now about how there “were two men”, each driving to work, and one was stopped by a pig and given a ticket for not wearing his seat belt, and one wasn’t. Then on the way home, they both got in an accident and the one who got the ticket survived, because he had his seat belt on (i.e., thanks to the pig and the ticket), and the one who didn’t get a ticket, died, because he didn’t get stopped by a benevolent and caring pig.
Fucking A, man. I cannot for the life of me figure out why more people don’t have a big problem with that law. Not to mention the commercial. A law that is meant to “keep your ass safe”, whether you like it or not. And most people will hear that commercial and not think a thing about the reality of that law (i.e., personal liberty), and the actual reason for it (i.e., NOT to keep you safe). And that’s just one law. Now I have to go to the airport and take off my shoes to prove I don’t have a fucking toe bomb.
Seat belts prevent injury when driving around town. At highway speed air bags are safer than seat belts.
But there never was a reason for removing shoes to check in at an airport. That particular piece of Vexatious Litigation was dreamt up by the same Stupid and Malign Authorities who pranned and executed the 911 Holocaust and the subsequent Crusade Against islam.
Remember the Clash of Civilisations? The Muslim Shoe Bomber? AIPAC and Anglo-Zionazi-Capitalist propaganda against Israel’s never-ending list of “Existential Enemies”?
And all of it because:
“They keep putting our oil under their soil”.
You don’t get it, do you? It’s not that seat belts don’t prevent injury, it’s that they have no right to make a law to force me to keep myself safe by wearing a seatbelt. Why not keep going and make a law so I can only have 1 drink a night, or only 1 Big Mac a week, to keep me safe? That’s my point.
Thanks for taking the trouble to give examples explaining a point that I did not get. I now agree that compulsory seat belt and air bags are an infringement of your liberty; the more so since you live in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.
I used to abhor seat belts because I am a natural born risk taker (according to a CIA test for prospective employees). But I was converted by two incidents in Paris (where they drive like maniacs). The first was conversation with an orchopaidist friend who repaired his fair share of car wrecks. The second was hearing of the last words of Princess Diana, lying without a seat belt in the back of her chauffeur driven Mercedes: Help me! Please hel4 me!
As for freedom to eat what one likes, you may remember the Western where Bob Hope swaggers into a saloon and acts real tough:
“Give me a glass of milk! In a dirty glass.”
Yup.
There is no point in groaning about these things. They are there because the people are conditioned not just to accept them but to expect or even demand them. The source of this conditioning into a culture of perpetual abuse is apparently off limits to this site because some people don’t like to hear that they (and their predecessors) were cucked their whole life..
The Guardian will teach you how to think!
https://www.dumptheguardian.com/books/article/2024/may/20/the-big-idea-the-simple-trick-that-can-sabotage-your-critical-thinking
Just to close off your TV and MSM from your screens will give you a tiger jump away from virtual reality to real reality. But the majority need your Nanny yes?
The mistake articles like this make is assuming its some unified malign presence that’s saddling with all these laws and regulations and, furthermore, that they’re all crimes enforced by local police. This will happen when the entire lawmaking and enforcement apparatus becomes detached from ‘the people’ but a often its just that redundant laws accumulate and need periodic housecleaning. (You would be amazed at the breadth and depth of redundant laws in the UK, a society that’s quite old, and there’s a systematic attempt to prune them.
Ultimately the proliferation of laws and regulations comes down to disconnection. In the US we have groups called “Homeowners’ Associations” which manage the appearance etc. of a housing development. The board that runs it is made up by elected representatives of the homeowners, has a charter and makes and enforces rules for the common good. All nice and democratic except there are innumerable examples of HOAs causing homeowners problems and even costing them their house. How can this happen? The answer is invariably that the minutiae of organizing a HOA and its functions tends to devolve into a small clique of people interested in doing this or worse, the board hires a company that performs its functions for it. The result easily devolves into tyranny, a torrent of petty regulations, fines and legal action which can, and does, result in scams like foreclosing on someone’s house and selling it to an insider for a nominal sum. Since this is a model of typical modern democratic government you can easily see how a disconnected, easily played majority can be led around by the nose by a lot of busybodies, all of whom “have our best interests at heart” — on paper, at least. In fact they’re all out for themselves.
Its very tempting to listen to the siren song of those who would make a bonfire (or take a chainsaw) to regulations, government and so on. It sounds inviting but if you look closer then they typically want to get rid of annoying regulations that prevent people from doing things that openly hurt society — destroy the environment is a big one because of the money to be made — but never get around to repealing the “Iron Boot On The Neck Forever” type regulation (in other words, complain and you’ll cop it!). Don’t fall for people peddling easy solutions to complex problems, they always have an agenda!
That was an enlightening comparison: between a clique setting up much vexatious legislation in a small Home Owners Association, and a clique doing the same in Big Government.
“Sit I ever so high, I only sit on on my own rear end” — Former mayor Michel de Montaigne.
Oh when it comes to nanny states you’ll love this tweet from Naomi Wolf:
“I’m in insane Oregon, where I just learned that people have been told to take down their birdfeeders so that the birds don’t congregate. ‘Bird flu’ is the reason. They are social distancing the birds.”
I would say the birds are not the target. We are the target. We are being told that delight in the natural world is not for us.
Birds are just too much. They think they can shit everywhere.
Make their home anywhere THEY want; in your garage, in your roof, in your post box.
From the early morning at 4:30-5:00 they start singing all over the city.
What they talk so much about I dont know.
Anyway, after all the hard work a man do in his garden, they just sit and wait like a crook, to take the profit and fruits out of a hard man’s work.
They dont pay rent, they shit on Labour Unions, refuse to follow orders, dont respect legal lines and borders. They just behave like they owned the world.
Just wait ’til a cat catches Bird Flu !!
Presumably, the cows have caught it because they found it in milk.
Cat didn’t catch it because bird flew.
In the E.U the rhetoric is migrants and workshy/sick.
How dare people be a little bit ill, look how much it is costing us = more laws and rules to help prevent it as it is costing the economy.. 💤
I am baffled how the same story’s lines have been repeated after each orchestrated financial meltdown ()3 day week 70’s()recession of the 80’s ()recession of the 90’s() ()banking bailout 2008() covid 2019()
Then the migrants and sick/poor will get the blame.
How about that same story line promising a Better,
Brighter Next Year…I’ve been hearing That Promise
Every Year for Decades !!
Maybe it will be for Migrants…
The economic reality is very unpopular round here. Everybody seemingly prefers economic fantasy, or economic insanity. When there is mention of “bodily integrity” we also must include cellular-molecular integrity which necessarily requires atmospheric integrity, hydropspheric integrity, biospheric integrity and so on. In terms of container schema: the body is organisationally closed and operationally open at the same time. The body as container is nested inside another body as container (….) and so on up to the biosphere which can safely be imagined as a materially closed container for now (Daly.)
Except the body is not a metaphor and the earth is not an abstract concept. We do actually all live and breathe together, but not at all equally. Which is precisely why it is necessary to think of the earth as an all-inclusive image-schema containing everybody, because it actually does.
So it is easier to think of the economy—as a management regime for the earth—in terms of “Unfair Ecological Exchange”, “Net Imperial Appropriation”, “North/South Imperialism” and “Socioeclogical Metabolism” (Stoffwechsel) which signify really-real economic activity. They are not concepts, they are means to signifying the actual economic reality.
Call it ‘kleptocracy’, ‘kakistocracy’, ‘idiocracy’ or highly racialised homo kakoeconomicus …. the Whiteheads will never mention really-real planetary socioecologics because they benefit too much from cellular-molecular colonisation that constitutes the commodities and their bodies that set them free from social responsibility, free from racialised reality, free from production so they can consume other people (sic), not just their embodied raw material equivalence, their bodies stulted by impoverishment that made the Whiteheads into the paranoid delusional raving idiocrats they have become.
I would say that is plenty of embodied species habitats and dead African children well spent? Given their freedom, they and their like will consume everything on the earth worth living for. Soon enough, they will consume life itself…. And they will still be raving lunatics baying for more freedom like the hungry ghosts they are. ‘We’ do not have to follow them into paranoid delusional insanity. Not if we begin to think of equally distributed socioecology respecting the earth. Tremendously unpopular, but necessary, you see?
< The body as container is nested inside another container (….) and so on up to the biosphere which …. >
… which is nested inside the Universe which was once an infinitesimal point — inside what?. Our bodies are made of the dust of ancient stars — some of which exploded long ago and far away. The biosphere has come a long way, and might have an even longer way to go. Prof.Penrose estimates “a google of years” before the next “conformal point” leading to the next Big Bang starts the Universe on its next great cycle — including the next great Cycle of Life and Consciousness.
Inside what indeed. Imponderable questions mean Kantian aporia and antinomies. There has been a general move to “epistemologise” our speculative ontology (singular) from Aristotle through Kant to the disparate likes of Deleuze, Quine, Piaget, Maturana who in no way fall into any form of category.
The earth can be taken as materially closed; i.e. finite in resources. Any sunlight has to be captured (very inefficiently) by using finite resources (Daly et al). So any economics is limited by earth’s finite resource base. The faster we use it, the faster it depletes… and we keep expecting to increase the rate of depletion exponentially.
Utilising implicit doctrines of ‘democracy’, ‘freedom’, ‘liberty’ and other empty constitutional metaphors… what the Whiteheads really mean is let’s use the resource base, its enslaved extraction workforce, its extinction of life embodiment to further their semantically possible ideological ‘freedom’. The reality of which means unconscionable atrocities for all life excepting one’s own. Their possible world embodies untold misery and barely conceals a deep-seated hatred of all life imposed on everybody but themselves. Which is happening right here as knowable without universal speculation.
Anyway, isn’t the ‘big bang’ in question by recent observation (via Hubble)? 😃
Most of these absurd and obscure laws probably came about via the Cult of Complaint.
Complainers infest every town and city around the world. They are frustrated, fixated and furious that other people are out having a good time.
They write, call, text, email and pester the bureaucracy in their area until their complaint is addressed.
Fuck them and the big brown dinosaur they rode in on.
Complainers, like commitee members, councillors, magistrates etc are people with spare time. They, therefore, almost never represent or understand most people who they are ruling over.
The general motive of government and its cronies is dominance and profit. Complaints get recognized if they facilitate this. This encompasses any real or purported benefit to the victims at the bottom: feeding them, breaking up their shanties, locking them up, exploiting them at new jobs, etc. Anything that can be privatised, contracted or convoluted must be made so.
Jasun Horsley (some doubts about him but he puts forward some interesting ideas) suggests the state is being positioned as Big Mother rather than Big Brother – a surrogate parent in the face of a world made deliberately crazy.
Here’s an example:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/unhappiness-leave-work-mental-health-day-off-office-b2546223.html
Get 10 days off a year because of “unhappiness” – because they care a lot? Or because they want the condition of being human pathologised so people (especially the young) can’t face ordinary life and retreat into virtual living voluntarily so they don’t have to be paid off when A.I. takes the jobs? Live on UBI and drugs while the pod becomes the womb…. and when it sinks in this is no sort of life then they have the answer for that too (and it’s being pushed everywhere at the moment including being trailed as one of the first actions of the new UK government expected later this year).
Time off work because you’re Unhappy –
not if little billy gates and his vaxx pushing
friends realise
“There’s billions to be made from ‘treatments’
for Unhappiness !!”
To quote Mousey Tongue
“Happiness comes from the prick
withof a needle.”Eventually it was discovered
That God
Did not want us to be all the same
This was
Bad news
For the government of the world
As it seemed contrary
To the doctrine of
Portion controlled servings.
Mankind must be made more
Uniformly if
The future
Was going to work
Various ways were sought
To bind us altogether
But, alas
Sameness was unenforceable
It was about this time
That someone
Came up with the idea of
TOTAL CRIMINALIZATION.
Based on the principle that
If we are all crooks
We could at least be uniform
To some degrees in the eyes of
The law
Shrewdly our legislators
Calculated
That most people were
Too lazy to perform a
REAL CRIME
So new laws were
Manufactured
Making it possible for
Anyone to violate them
Any time of the day or night,
And
Once we had all broken
Some kind of law
We all in the same
Big happy club
Right up there with the
President,
The most exalted industrialists,
And the clerical big shots
Of all your favorite religions.
Total criminalization
Was the greatest idea of its
Time and was vastly popular
Except with those people
Who didn’t want to be crooks
Or outlaws.
So, of course, they had to be
TRICKED INTO IT…
Which is one of the reasons
Why
Music
Was eventually made
ILLEGAL.
– Frank Zappa, 1979
Good old Zappa. I was happy to experience one concert with him, where he made a deal with the Devil about Titties and Beer. https://youtu.be/WzzWEeiUf3Y