LIVESTREAM: Debunking the False Binary with the Independent Media Alliance
Independent Media Alliance founders Derrick Broze and Ryan Cristián are joined by Iain Davis, Steve Poikonen, Hrvoje Morić and OffG’s own Kit Knightly to discuss the nature and purpose of the “fake binary” narrative control technique.
It will be livestreamed from 6pm-7pm UK time (1pm-2pm Eastern).
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I do hope the group uses things like ‘official conspiracy theory’ where suitable in its pieces. MSM only references the Pejorative kind only.
Also I think the group needs to follow the Government/Media training. Specific questions/Issues could covered by a specific ‘Line to Take’. This would aid in tackling the MSM trolls and save a lot of wasted engagement.
As an example. Line to take on Masks
‘Please detail the area on the WHOs website, that details the science behind ‘masks working’. Given that Masks are considered a NPI (Non Pharmaceutical Intervention), please also detail their harms on the same website’.
Next time someone goes on about about Masks, we can all cut and paste the same response.
where’s Whitney?
You need to invite Dr Shiva.
old icke goes on about MAM- why does he not lead by example and stopping posting there shit on his massive traffic hitting website.
in 2021 and 2023 he posted Carlson over 300 times and sold Carlson as this outsider
He did the same for brand and appeared on his Brand X show many times with noel Gallagher.
he been on Alex shil jones show 100;s of times then they have this fake fallout,
They try to paint history differently and do an internet wipe out as the nearly awaken forget about the past and the older lot go on to brighter things or go back to sleep.
real truth does not go viral…
I find it most interesting that folks still don’t understand how and why the current political system is entirely designed to subjugate and exploit them. Therefore, the conversation either turns to resigned helplessness or to implied reprobation—the black pill criticism. There are very good political reasons for not participating in the electoral process: 1: to not legitimize a deceitful process that works against the people. 2: to not consent to the usurpation of power by corrupt and sociopathic elements who will eventually destroy the social fabric and the economy of one’s society. 3: to work toward enacting real solutions for the betterment of one’s community.
There are also more philosophical and moral reasons for this refusal: 1: to uphold one’s sovereign right of self-determination. 2: to refuse to abdicate to evil and submit degenerate tendencies that threaten society. 3: to be responsible for one’s decisions and actions.
Some may be surprised to discover that such understanding are nothing new. You don’t have to take my word for it.
Many great intellectuals have written about these principles: John Adams, Tocqueville, Buffin de Chosal, etc. Élisée Reclus, French geographer and anarchist du 19th century is less well-known. Here’s what he had to say in his “Lettre à Jean Grave” (1885):
“To vote is to abdicate; to appoint one or more masters for a short or long period is to renounce one’s own sovereignty. Whether he becomes an absolute monarch, a constitutional prince, or simply a representative with a small share of royalty, the candidate you bring to the throne or to the chair will be your superior. You appoint men who are above the laws, since they are responsible for drafting them and their mission is to make you obey them.
To vote is to be fooled; it is to believe that men like you will suddenly acquire, at the ringing of a bell, the virtue of knowing and understanding everything. Since your representatives have to legislate on everything, from matches to warships, from tree insect control to the extermination of red or black people, it seems to you that their intelligence grows by the very immensity of the task. History teaches you that the opposite is true. Power has always panicked, chatter has always stupefied. In Political assemblies, mediocrity inevitably prevails.
To vote is to evoke treason. Without doubt, voters believe in the honesty of those to whom they grant their votes – and perhaps they are right on the first day, when the candidates are still in the fervour of first love. But every day has its tomorrow. As soon as the environment changes, the man changes with it. Today, the candidate bows before you, and perhaps too low; tomorrow, he will straighten up and perhaps too high. He begged for votes, he will give you orders. Can the worker, who has become a foreman, remain what he was before having obtained the favour of the boss? Does not the fiery democrat learn to bend his back when the banker deigns to invite him to his office, when the valets of kings do him the honour of entertaining him in the antechambers? The atmosphere of these legislative bodies is unhealthy to breathe, you send your representatives into an environment of corruption; don’t be surprised if they come out corrupted.
Do not therefore abdicate, do not therefore entrust your destinies to men who are necessarily incapable and to future traitors. Do not vote! Instead of entrusting your interests to others, defend them yourselves; instead of hiring lawyers to propose a future course of action, act! Opportunities are not lacking for men of good will. To reject the responsibility for one’s conduct on others is to lack courage.”
We should be as wary of “good” binaries as we are of “bad” binaries. Here’s a “good” binary which may not be as cut and dried as it seems: either “they’re all in it together or they’re not.”
How about a more realistic choice based on human history? The very nature of Empire is to bring as many separate entities/nations/territories together under the Empire’s banner as possible – but historically it’s a fool’s errand that either flat out doesn’t work or else crumbles over time. No would-be world ruling power has ever managed to bring it off – so why would we assume that it has finally been achieved? And by whom? By bankers – whose only claim to fame is the ability to print, distribute and control an absolutely worthless product (money)?
An absolutely worthless product to attain an absolutely worthless goal – subjugation of the entire world? Only absolutely worthless idiots would allow themselves to be ruled by “filthy lucre.”
And that’s only one “good” binary making the rounds.
I agree with you that all empires contain the seeds of their own destruction. Have you read “Collapse” by Jared Diamond? I think whatever we do, or don’t do, the oligarchs will meet the fate of all similar tyrants before them. Our job is to create “Lifeboats” and localised survival plans for ourselves.
Relatively few commentators seem to focus on the fact that we have an energy-based economy, and lifestyle, that has been built with, and is only sustained with, fossil fuels and that renewables have no chance of replacing them in any meaningful way. I thank the following writers for their clarity in bringing this to my attention and look foward to their approximately monthly articles:
For succinct writing on geopolitical events, insofar as they relate to the demise of the debt-fuelled US dollar (and other currencies) and the inevitable currency reset, which brings the threat of CBDCs, I recommend Alasdair Macleod https://alasdairmacleod.substack.com/
Thanks to previous critical-thinking commentators on this and other sites for bringing these writers to my attention.
I have enjoyed Jared Diamond’s books. I also recommend the following 26 page essay by Sir John Glubb on The Fate of Empires. It’s a clear analysis from history of how all empires seem to be destined to follow much the same pattern. On Glubb’s analysis, the US (or Western) empire is clearly in the final stage of empire. Having just re-read it after a few years, I see that there might be a few crumbs of comfort in his essay as to what the future might hold: https://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
Thank you. The “Like” button doesn’t seem to work for me (I press it and nothing happens), maybe something to do with my iPhone and/or remote location (Aussie outback at the moment).
Right now, we have current evidence of imperial self-destruction, not just decline. Pig-headed provincialism, peurile entertainment, non-stop idiocy, over-reach and hubris, counter-productive offensive moves, digging ever deeper into the morass..
Centralised control is very energy intensive and as we slide down the other side of the Peak Oil slope, the oligarchs will have less and less of this magical elixir to fuel their tyrannical fantasies. And let’s face it, the powers-that-be can’t even keep complete control in a high security prison, what hope have they really got when it comes to a whole Planet? The word “Hubris” comes to mind. Very surprised to see virtually no discussion of this key subject (e.g. energy literacy/peak oil), despite great resources, such as Mike Ruppert’s “Crossing The Rubicon.” In trying to understand the contortions of the power mongers, always follow the energy trail. I also thoroughly recommend Dmitry Orlov’s book “Re-inventing Collapse,” an easy read and full of dark humour.
You won’t see much about the energy crisis here because the prevailing view seems to be that oil/gas resources are infinite (that certainly is James Corbett’s view, to name just one frequently showcased alt media pundit).
I agree with you that Mike Ruppert is one of the best sources for information on energy – but, again, except for his 9/11 stance, he is little regarded in this forum.
In that case, it’s a major blind spot. Nobody’s talking about resource depletion and energy literacy (e.g. Energy Return on Energy Invested or EROEI), on any side of the political spectrum. The traditional Green movement, who at least had a handle on this subject, outright rejected Mike Ruppert, calling him a “Conspiracist” and other epitaphs (e.g. the same strange cohort who now think those aware of the vax/Covid19 scam are idiots), while many (if not most), of those who are now deeply aware of the criminal nature of the ruling class reject Mike Ruppert’s insights for the exact opposite reason, e.g. his acute insights into resource depletion. Catherine Austin Fitts may be an exception to this, as she wrote the foreword for “Crossing the Rubicon.” Off Guardian, I have questions for you, have you ever referenced or acknowledged Mike Ruppert and the key issues he raised, e.g. the crucial connections between energy depletion, a runaway monetary system (fractional reserve banking) and the criminal class running the show? And if you think the energy resources available to the human population are infinite and ever expanding, why is this?
PS – And right now, The Greens have abandoned and “Forgotten” any semblance of energy literacy by insisting “Renewables” can power a modern day industrial society, which is an outright lie. A reading of anything and everything by Richard Heinberg and James Howard Kunstler will provide detailed insights into the reasons for this.
Unless we look within, we will chase rabbit holes that promise to reveal deeper truths while maintaining the masking capture of a false binary.
These device by which we seek to possess and control life whose qualities cannot BE truly quantified can be brought to awareness , to being questioned and revealed fallacious or delusory – and thus no longer credited to serve (frame) our own appreciation & understanding of being. But while guilting narrative judgements operate as ‘securitised’ or unquestionable ‘Truth’ on pain of vilification and exclusion, ‘Truth’ is weaponised and marketised as mindshare for a war of means by which to establish or determine and thus judge. A mind and world of deceits – not least of self-deceit running protected BY their projection to the Othered, or excluded – for whom withdrawing and withholding of love is deemed wholly justifiable.
Love’s awareness is NOT coercive but is freely extended to all as and by the Nature of our Creator. That a fake and manipulative substitution or masking of ‘love’ runs as social currency is the mindset or defence against love – running in the ‘name’ or forms of love taken out of context and thus in contradiction with the Nature of love.
The Medium and the message are one. A-tempt to commune-icate without love – as if to hide or mask fear and conflict, will generate a false currency for those who so choose to ‘share’ separative self-specialness as a ‘novel discovery’ offering gain of fiction set in false claims of function as stakeholders in a progressive contagion. For a lie cannot rest and find support but will be revealed by thise whose ‘Rest’ offers no support, thus the lie must attack the ‘threat’ of truth to ‘survive’ in its terms and conditions – sign here, and here and here.
While a deep past can be seen as setting our ‘mindset’ its relevance to our now is its persistent reiteration. Witch-hunts seeking scapegoats for our ‘problems as we define them’ will override the grounded or rested awareness and attention to the evils of the day thereof. That is – what arises in our daily life as the moment at hand is what is ‘energetically’ ready to be addressed. I would say coming up to be healed, refined or undone.
The ‘gaslighting psychopath’ could be identified as our self-hatred. Intolerable and thus traumatic to the point of yielding judgement to acceptance of reality OR projective denial as a means to persist in a mitigated and manageable ‘split mind’ behind a ‘unified front’.
Conversely the splitting or fragmentation of Everything as a basis for All the king’s horses and all the king’s men to Set Order can never succeed because the capacity to enact a denial of reality is totally dependent on what is its predicated to deny.
What does occur is a game of ‘pass the parcel’ of blame and sacrifice within and ever diminishing circle of ‘chairs’.
And so we arrive at our starting place for such is the Nature of Creation to extend each according to its kind. Loveless thinking cannot by definition become love, lies cannot become truth, for what we choose to take or get will set the measure of the witness we give.
Giving and receiving are of a relational or energetic honesty, while getting ‘takes a relational distortion’ as a claim and gain of function.
A world of lies can thus be revealed as a deep complex of nested defences against feared and thus hated truth. Yet only truth can heal or undo illusions that set us to suffer under protected insanity.
Nothing made by an Extension of the Creative can be wholly without love, and so the willingness to uncover and acknowledge the divine spark in another remains our opportunity for undoing a compound interest of toxic debt-conflict, now.
Looking within is a direct self-honesty. No one is or can be the judge of another living one, But such as judgements have become the measure and means of a managed existence, let them be guided and brought to service within a discernment of the whole – of which we integrally are. Without exception. Thus the habit-react of judgemental thinking is retrained to a living participance – despite whatever maze of guilts, hates or terrors have been woven into a world set for war as means to Get for a driven sense of self-lack.
Brian what do you mean by “within”?
Name the device humans use to possess and control life?
Explain how do these devices quantify the elements that make up awareness?
I agree thought programming seeks to arrange narratives in the sensory detected environment with purpose to produce a Pavlovian conditioned experience linked to a target narrative. The more repeats this conditioning imposes the more likely the belief system will become conditioned to rely on the belief produced by the paired conditioning. Presumably thought programming works by Pavlovian conditioning: narrative is the key which is coded into belief system used to produce a controlled response in each next following episodes?
I agree once the false narrative is integrated into the belief system that all sorts of manipulative mischief can be accomplished. But what i cannot find in your comment is how this works and why it works. Only that the herds have been indoctrinated by it.
Dilemma: “A choice between equally unfavourable alternatives.”
But for refusal to participate in the electoral process – but nevertheless forced to suffer the consequences of abstention – U.S. democracy has has devolved to nothing more than a dilemma.
For that matter, “dilemma”, fairly describes U.S. extortionist foreign policy; whether advanced by the State Department, World Trade Organization, NATO, or the United Nations.
vote for Jill Stein she is on the ballot in most states.
???
False Binary would mean that alternative media is the controlled op.
or did I miss something..?
Yes – you missed the fact YOU are the controlled op
Rumbled:
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/senior-medic-urges-calm-over-stormont-public-health-bill-2PTURYALFBCMHOPCQQ6PEUZTWM/
Bald men fighting over a comb!
https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/IMA-9-19-24:a
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https://odysee.com/@theconsciousresistance:7/false-binary-IMA:3
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That was pretty deep. What do you think?
some comedy from RT:
😆
The Chechenyan ape had mounted a machine gun on the cybertruck….
😂 😂
looks like photoshop!
He made them show industry cards, so who is then next to intercept this technology and use it for their own ends, trust no one, especially those in traditional gvt.
“Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes”.
Voting does make a difference.
It has been compared to two stagecoaches going to the same destination, splashing mud on each other as they travel, and for good reason.
But the stagecoaches are both different inside and the one in charge of UK at the minute is the most miserable I have ever witnessed.
If we’re being taken to hell, at least we could make the journey a bit more comfortable
No. I am not going to waste my time repeating the reasons why voting is for slaves as it has been thoroughly explained by many writers.
you will never get it.
It’s “our” fault for not jailing TB.Liar. And it’s “our” fault for voting “New Liebore” second time round.
If you really want to make a difference, vote Communist at the next election. If communism has been culturally genocided in your ward, form a cell and issue a manifesto:
“It is easier to push a cable through the eye of a needle than to push a rich man through the gates of the Kingdom” — Communist Manifesto, First Century AD.
Putin’s party had a nice commercial on TV before the last election.
It was a humouristic story about a father seeing his family turning out to a LGBT team with women’s lib, his son as gay, and his neighbours as Liberals, if he stayed home at voting day.
So maybe you are right. It can and could be even worse.
Voting is what got us in this quagmire. You think it can get us out of it?
I’m being told there is a 50/50 chance of this occurring rather soon, by historical standards.
You give me hope. TY
Bloody good job. Nice change from all the talking alternative media heads talking about the same rubbish as the mainstream. First of many I hope. Can we get a transcript like someone said? Can we suggest future topics? I would nominate the so-called war in Ukraine, which in my opinion just gets dafter and stranger all the time.
Catts always been my frav OG’er.
We finally get to see who this mysterious Catt Black is..???
as according to the CTTF forum it is it was one of the azx who does most of the writing.
Mind you Matthas CCTF thought the RFK Trump ticket was a good thing for exposing the food industry!!
I’m from the E.U and U.K and I’ve have heard the ”healthier political discussion’ a few times now and when they get in NOTHING happens.
I don’t understand what this means. What is the CTTF forum and what is azx? Sorry if I’m just being bit dense.
he/she is in the wrong thread or even wrong website 😂
Both the US and the UK election setups ARE binary by design.
Sure “full Truth” is in neither side, but in November the ‘choice’ to make is clear: non Woke.
Be racist and sexist for once in your life, almost nobody will notice in that little voting booth.
Or just be dumb, as usual, and let the PTB know you think their rigged electoral psyop is legetimate and makes sense.
Never mind all this frippery and international dalliance.
The BIG NEWS is out:
Kylie Minogue is about to embark on her biggest world tour for fourteen years!!
All is not lost 😖😜😝
Boom… my phone blew up with that news…
started with Madonna then the Oasis reunion, Metallica and now Kyle.
everyone of them ticket prices is stupid money.
That was an interesting discussion with points well made. It would be great if the IMA could provide ‘show notes’ for each talk either as links to everything mentioned, or ideally a hyperlinked transcript.
I look forward to more of these panel discussions.
There seem to be countless other such channels, but the principle is the same and there must be a whole gang of highly creative, obscene Oktoberfest drunks behind them, who go blue. In this case, it is a disadvantage for Anglo-Americans not to understand anything.
The titles, lyrics and names are about all kinds of debauched things that take place below the belt. Only one thing is certain: these are clearly language patterns that are likely to be familiar to all sexually normal men.
There have always been dirty ditties like this, often in connection with Volksmusik, Schlager, western and country music, especially in German-speaking countries, but now they are apparently being created with AI. https://linkmix.co/26425696
IMA’s result: painting Donald Trump “as ~ the same” as Kamala Harris so no one will go and vote. The Swamp Cabal couldn’t be more pleased: less wake voting to manipulate.
imported immigrants can’t follow any English media so most will vote for their benefactors, the woke sheep.
Most immigrants = refugees I have meet are not dumb enough to vote.
Prehaps you should expat to USA in which you will need to get a covid vaccine to enter and gain a visa, retina scan and facial biometrcs wait for a period of time to be able to vote which get selected by the electoral college.
Don’t vote, clever head; that is just what the Cabal wants! Easy peasy win, “democratic” on top of it.
Atta boy.
There are countless reasons to not vote.
You don’t get it. The cabal would be terrified if the ‘bewildered herd’ stopped cheering loudly everytime they show up with their new fancy clothes. The cabal knows that what would follow is tar and feathers. What they like most is to have two camps perfectly divided along a razor-thin margin of victory, with zealots cancelling each other out whilst they — the rulers — pull the rug from under their feet and perpetuate the con.
RE ONE BINARY I AFFIRM
“In the State of Texas, humans cannot consent to sexual intercourse or be tried as an adult until the age of 17. They cannot vote until the age of 18 and they cannot drink an alcoholic beverage until the age of 21.
And yet, by some stupendous miracle of mass psychosis, much of our society has, in recent years, accepted the proposition that children may decide to receive puberty blocking hormones and even radical surgical procedures in a Frankensteinian fantasy of “transitioning” to the opposite sex. Most people, it seems to me, have no idea of the horror suffered by countless kids as they become fully aware of the irrevocable damage that has been done to them with the approval of their idiot parents.”
For once, John Leake has it exactly right.
Think of it as an advance. Right now no-one can consent to sexual intercourse till they are 17. In the future and after all that genital mutilation, by the time they’re 17 they won’t even be able to have sexual intercourse.
Binaries?
Truth V Lies.
Light V Dark.
Peace V War.
Justice V Injustice.
Sharing V Greed.
Egalitarianism V $elf Intere$t.
Humility V Vanity.
Them V Us.
(Yours here).
Truth v Lies is too simple for over intellectualized minds; also it doesn’t give anyone Shepard status, so brew it an obscure, complicated soup.
Intuition out of the window, even gut feeling.
Kit and Iain are the best. Will you be talking about Russia and Ukraine and Israel any time?
Thanks for the encouragement. There are no firm plans. The IMA project is very new and the details need to be finalised but I certainly hope so.
“no firm plans” and “hope so” do not sound like “Yes”.
“Phone me for a positive Maybe” — Sam Goldwyn.
your agenda is showing sweetie –
how many other people do you post on here as? Fair to ask since you bumblingly doxed yourself posting as “0”?
Falling over your own clown shoes – how embarrasing. 🤡
I used to be in two minds in making up my mind but now I am not sure 🤔
You folks are doing something good here. Thanks to you all. Much appreciated. I don’t have any hope for either party in this election. I used to be a Republican, gave up on that before I even got a chance to vote first time. My family were big on Trump but I never was and sure as heck am not now and neither are they. The Democrats are just the same thing but in blue.They all taking us down the same darn road to h*ll
Again, a lot of talk. And why don’t you all sit together in the same room? You do look like a group of compliant people ‘afraid of the virus’. It’s sending out a wrong signal. Get rid of the screens. Get real.
How can they sit in the same room when they’re all in different countries thousands of miles apart?
You mean jet around the world like those self appointed $uiturd$ flashing their Messiah Complexes?
Isnt that what truth conferences are about with there over priced tickets.
All the audience should also be in the same room as well. That’s right get rid of the screens, because screens are evil.
Some of my very old friends come from the old crop circle investigation movement. Back in the earlier days before all the dis-information started and a fair number were looking for legitimate answers to the mystery. Not just the wall to wall aliens or hoax topic that you have today.
Those were interesting times.
Back then though, those of us involved perceived that something was being covered up, and that many fakes were being produced.
The result was regular meetings where discussions took place face to face.
These days the same group exists, however the topic has broadened to take many other aspects of the era in which we live. Notably conspiracy theories, electioneering, and media distortion.
People meet face to face and talk.
Sometimes theres a panel, sometimes a lone guest speaker.
What these people realised, way back when wandering through crop fields, is that if you want the truth, you need to rebuild trust. And the best way is face to face contact, and honest in the room only discussion.
One of the main people involved in the very successful group made a comment recently I wont forget.
Books and print will never die, and will return. They suggest leafleting is by far the best method to undermine control.
Anything here online can be controlled. And as we see here by the way in which things can break down people fall out easily in spaces like this.
The internet is a US military (DARPA etc) operation for full spectrum dominance. This is why Israel has not been taken down, because the people who have the capacity to take it down are suckered into the web (of the spider) and hopelessly compromised through built-in backdoors in computers and phones.
Intel, indeed.
THE WEB IS THE HOME OF THE SPIDER
I am painfully aware of the irony of posting this comment on the internet but I am one of the isolated billions with no way of doing anything effective about it. We lost the war and only mother Nature will put an end to this.
The polar shift will sooner or later wipe the slate clean by pulverising everything on the planet’s surface, and finish off the elite vermin hiding in deep underground shelters with a prolonged ice age, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Theres no apocalypse to ‘hope’ for.
Theres some good non fiction books on the subject that delve deeply into how we have been conditioned to keep on thinking about the eventual end of everything. But it’s just conditioning.
All those films, all the fiction in books, in artwork, and in some world religions.
Its unhealthy because it leads to certain expectations.
But for all the civilisations that perished before us, they were all in their own microcosm.
If theres an apocalypse now, then it’s an apocalypse of the mind. And from within it is just doom and gloom. But that ball is ever being kicked further down the road.
A belief in an apocalypse is to waste a life.
There is a substantial amount of evidence for an advanced technological civilisation which was destroyed during the Younger Dryas which a great deal of evidence points to an apocalyptic event/s .
The world is centrally controlled. Forget the idea of countries they are just population plantations, all centrally controlled. Always have been, since long before the HRE.
The controllers can sustain themselves through the precession and PACs, they have before. Not every part of the earth will be harmed.
But they can’t know which areas will be preserved and which will be irretrievably damaged.
The elite can easily be smoked out of their tunnels, the same way some natives hunt rats. But that will not solve anything for survivors.
I agree with leafleting. Post those bills.
When you guys meet, do you leave your cell phones at home? Because the phones are spying devices.
Good grief the rage that has been triggered in some quarters by this IMA initiative is beyond belief!
The discussion today was a breath of air as another commenter said.
Those of us striving to come to terms with the hugely altered post-scamdemic landscape are starved of conversations like this! We go to sites that used go feel empathetic and relevant and all we hear is partisan nonsense about Left-Right, East-West that seems so outdated and irrelevant now!
It seems like everyone just wants to pretend 2020 never happened and the New Normal was never launched and we can all just return to how it was. OG has kept me sane in post-covid times as it did in covid times!
This alliance of the few alt news outfits who grasp how big the change has been is not just welcome, it’s essential!
Its an old feature:
Its 1918, WWI is over, we can start living and build everything up again.
Its 1945, WWII is over, we can start living and build everything up again.
Its 1975, Saigon fell, we stopped the Vietnam war, and can start all over again.
Its 2024, The Corona fake was revealed, let us have a “we were right party” and forget it.
Never ever a WWI, WWII, Vietnam war, or a Corona demic again. Why are we here?
Actually, conglomerations over independence usually end up in stagnation at best, corruption at worst, and serve to stifle true independent thinking. Think back to Pierre Omidyar, Glen Greenwald and the Intercept. You end up with the lowest common denominator thru consensus, coercion, and the pursuit of power. The bigger they get, the harder they fall.
Who’s the IMA’s billionaire?
“In this town, I’m all the parties”.
Dialogue from Preston Sturges’s ‘The Great McGinty’ (1940). It’s basic revelation of the method. Sturges’s mother moved in Crowleyite circles and it’s possible he was a “moonchild” conceived in a sex magik ritual. That’s who gets to reveal the method in Hollywood.
Is it possible to turn down the sycophancy on these bots or is it permanently set to eleven!
I’m familiar with your comments and Jubal Henshaw’s below and I have never seen either of you be so grotesquely trollish. What on earth is going on? So strange.
In the four and half years I’ve been commenting here I can’t remember once having an exchange with yourself. So have you been quietly admiring by posts all this time? And, btw, I’ve been far more trollish than this. I haven’t even got started yet!
I would politely suggest you consult our comment policy before bragging too hard about being a troll.
No, just go ahead and ban me!
We won’t do that, we very rarely ban anyone, but we do have limits on the amount of trolling we find acceptable, so please bear that in mind.
What a arrogant person you are.
Why are you on the war path with Offg all of a sudden?
This one is still in pending.
Reply to Hannah – 10:09 PM
It’s weariness, not rage. Those of us who have an attention span longer than a goldfish can remember OffG pushing the likes of Jordan Peterson, Julian Assange, Mattias Desmet and RFK Jr – and this is just the same old, same old!
so you just happen to be a bit moody today and thought you’d pop along and shit on one of the few truly alt media outlets you can put your finger on. Why? Because you can. Because we’re tolerant and we publish far more comments than most places do.
Please, link to your preferred outlet which you think is better. Or just shut up.
And I hadn’t, at that point, said anything about the so-called “alt-media” sites. Other than Webb who I called out a week or so ago for being an obvious spook!
‘pushing’? Oh grow up!
I think Lost is feeling Lost because pro-NATZO Ukrainians Lost their genocidal war against pro-Russian Ukrainians.
Cheer up! The Ukraina will regain its former prosperity once safely back in the bosom of Mother Russia. And West Ukraine will return happily to being “vibrant” multi-ethnic Austro-Hungarian-Rumanian-Polish Galicia like she used to be in the Good Old Days before the War.
Usual suspects then usual suspects now.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article216406.html
When one respects another’s hard work it is entirely legitimate and polite to acknowledge that.
Your cynicism will only add to your unhappiness LIDW.
👏👏👏 well said
Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2024-09-18. 2016 DARPA told CDC that IVM #1 product in event of a coronavirus pandemic. “Self-assembling entities” (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).
This is the first election in my 72 years where I have finally faced the fact it makes no damn difference, and I thank OffGuardian for helping me to get to that place. It’s a lonesome place because very few people I know get where I am coming from. This discussion panel today was a breath of fresh air. Thanks to Kit, Iain, Derrick, Ryan, and everyone who made it happen. Please keep em coming.
PS the dumb troll comments I saw are just proof you guys are doing something right.
Look what happened in the UK.
Super low turn out as per usual.
The obvious deliberate mistakes made by party A and the use of such by the media to shoehorn in the equally unpopular party B, meanwhile creating perfect opportunities to bring in new party C to create as much race hatred and conflict from the very outset.
It’s the biggest pile of horse turd I ever came across.
It’s such a farce, and so many can see it.
Many new MPs havent even been seen yet, and its not even for sure they actually exist. Some regions had turnouts so low they shouldnt have become valid MPs for a start because it was below the legal threshold.
Most people I know dont trust politicians, but still vote regardless.
My partners excuse is that she votes because it was a real battle for women to be given the opportunity to vote. Which is a good point of course. But I still think that any vote helps to prop up the main bad actors. And regardless the governing classes are just marching lockstep with their corporation overlords.
Bring back the Anti-Freemason party!
Actually they really did exist, were extremely popular, and were pretty much done away with.
None the less the premise of such a party is excellent because the demand of course is that no elected member of parliament/Senate etc, or official of any high standing (councils, court judges, military, police) can hold office while being a Mason.
Such a move would transform society in the west because it would strip out offenders like tea leaves through a strainer.
Probably get anyone suggesting this six feet under as well….
the internet was alive with election coverage and alt media help sell the illusion of the voting must be real as they spoke about it constantly.
I have always considered voting a responsibility and a privilege. I was so proud to vote in the first Presidential election here in the USA when the voting age was lowered to 18. And doubley proud that we were the only state in the nation that went to McGovern. (1972)
Although the Democrats make me sicker than the Republicans at this point, maybe due to my disappointment and horror, I will not vote for the lesser evil.
I will not support the system any longer. It is not the candidates, who I regard as inept, it is the system.
I still do consider voting a responsibility and a privilege, but it has become a farce. Voting is not a priority in the US. Entertainment and sports are the priority. So voting has become a quick fix mess. Politics is another form of entertainment.
The way people were behaving toward the last debate made me think of spectators watching the gladiators at the coliseum.
The huge million dollar donations, and the huge lobbying arms, have to go. The cost of these campaigns is beyond belief.
RFK Jr and Donald Trump begging for donations on youtube? Barak Obama shilling for Biden and Harris? It’s embarresssing.
Sorry, much too long a rant. I do feel there is a solution, but it would require a monumental change here in America.
It follows a predictive pattern where party A has worn out its welcome with Joe Public so the MSM are given instructions to prepare the ground for party B to enable them to become the public face of the real power brokers.
Montage Norman, former head of the Bank of England stated as much in the 1920s.
However, as the percentage of the electorate continue to drop and a critical mass of non voters was approaching, the time honoured method of distraction was invoked ie Farage’s Reform party which hoovered up the disenchanted voters.
So hey presto Starmer has a landslide victory with less votes than Corbyn received in the 2019 GE, despite a Propaganda campaign which surpassed by wide margin the Reds under the Bed scares, lost 81 seats.
You couldn’t make up !
Montagu Norman
except, they are not what you think – og is no more than a filter for miscreants from the ‘guardian’ – no more, no less – and they don’t ban anyone ….. just delete them as if nothing’s happened
You claim we delete everything we don’t like, and yet somehow people like you are allowed to come here and say so?
By the way, you have literally never commented before, so how would you have any basis for your observation?
I think most people realise by now this is a trolling tactic.
Fucking yes
I’m still waiting for OffG to identify a “true binary”!
Why? Can’t you figure it out for yourself?
The elitists against the mass of the population. The 1% against the 99% if you prefer.
OG has consistently identified this as the true binary.
The 99% position is sometimes implied, but I’m not aware of it being stated explicitly. If you know of an example, please post the link.
OG forgets that the 1% are occasionally on the side of humanity. Then things go right in a society.
“True civilization is not 99% against 1%, it is 100% against the traces of Original Sin.” — Baudelaire.
Obviously, I can’t figure out OffG’s position. This is why I’m asking the question!
https://www.codetd.com/en/article/16106627 IT language.
fake binary name is 2023 lick of paint of Controlled Opposition name which was coined decades ago.
What is a “true binary”??
please dont use trump or Q as a example
Top vs. bottom.
“Top is bottom and bottom is top. All things arise from strife” — Heraclitus.
So am I. Perhaps “true binaries” (Either / Or) do not exist?
“Logic demands one to choose Either the one Or the other between two contradictory binaries. But Nature imperiously commands one to choose Both.” — Wehner von Heisenberg, physicist.
Shame dpl disappeared.
Had a few of these peoples numbers.
So offg was really just an echo chamber and data gathering corall, spooky eh?
Good luck everyone, see you on the list.
Panel channels show are big since covid.
Huge online conference discussing covid and having Doctors on it make one feel important.
similar to Cspan or Senate hearing.
YourPointBeing who is your ideal truthers panel line up..?
Enjoying this a lot. Great start. Thanks guys. About time there was a concerted effort to address the apologist BS coming out of so much of what we can barely call “alt media” any more.
Will Corbett be on the next one.?
I am here thanks to him.
He’s your daddy ?
Seriously? That’s what you got? My stars.