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Straight Pride

Todd Hayen

As it is, I am not allowed to be proud of my heterosexuality. In truth, it is not something to be proud of. But for the same reason, there is nothing to be proud of in being homosexual, or bi or trans, or any variety of sexual preference or orientation or identity. Nothing.

Well, a person can be proud of the advancements an identified group has accomplished (particularly if you are a member of that group). Considering the trials and tribulations gay people have faced over the centuries, the fortitude, effort, and sacrifice they have made to socially be where they are today is certainly something a person could be proud of. But that isn’t being proud of being gay. That is being proud of character, resilience, resolve and fortitude. Being gay may have been the impetus for those admirable attributes, but gayness itself is not.

Pride is actually one of the Seven Cardinal Sins. And there is good reason for it to be. “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall” (Proverbs 16:18) and all that. Of course, common sense would say that is not what gay pride is about. However, if we see that massive movement toward gay pride (or trans pride) as a product of the agenda, we can clearly see that it is intended to cause disruption. How so?

Well, we do see a lot of resistance to this movement. We see straight people feeling “slighted” and ignored and feeling like victims in the expectation they should be following, and complying, to all that is going on in this movement—particularly in schools that their children attend. The Gay Pride flag is seen now nearly everywhere you turn, flying alongside the US or Canadian flag (and probably elsewhere in other countries as well)—very often on the same staff.

I recently got into one of those pointless Facebook exchanges with someone who was arguing for the presence of these flags in the classroom (elementary, middle and high school). She claimed to be a teacher and felt that these kids (the one the flag represents) need to feel a part of something that they can be proud of. I responded to her the same way I am responding here. That sort of pride should not be encouraged as it creates the very problem that this teacher was claiming it was resolving.

I mentioned that flags themselves were developed to exclude. The pride one feels for a nation’s flag is an exclusionary response—the flag represents “us” and excludes “them.” That is the whole point. You either belong to the group this flag represents, or you are the enemy. The flag was used in the battlefield to differentiate the good guys from the bad guys (you were good or bad depending on which flag you were allied with).

If you live within the borders of a particular country that is not at war with another country, your pride in the flag is rather innocuous. There should be no one around that opposes it—who doesn’t belong to the same group the flag represents if you are living on the same soil. But the LGBTQIA+ flag represents a certain demographic and excludes another that is also in its presence. Maybe gay and trans kids feel proud belonging to that group the flag represents, at the expense of all the kids who do not belong to the group—the straight kids.

If young enough (which probably would include anyone under 40), the “group pride of the kids the flag represents” may cause the kids it does not represent to want to be part of the group it does represent. “Oh sure, why not?” the flag group says, and apparently the “officials” who allow the presence of the flag to begin with agree. The presence of the “proud flag wavers” creates pressure to those not belonging to the group. That pressure can become the social contagion that creates false identities and a myriad of other psychological problems.

This sort of division can also cause rebellion and a resistance to “joining the flag group.” Kids who dislike the flag wavers, and therefore creates discrimination and “homophobia” or “transphobia”—it isn’t good, folks.

If you don’t throw the goal of the agenda into this whole mess as an intentional catalyst for conflict, then it could be seen as a social phase. Black Pride, Jewish Pride, Feminine Pride, and Immigrant Pride (among others), have all had their place and time in the social arena. I can’t say I find any sort of “group” that encourages “pride” as a way to reconcile and build a defense against bigotry a good idea, but at least in those situations there was something substantial these people were saying they could be proud of. Sexual preference, or sexual identity, is not one of these things. (I have made little comment here regarding this idea of “identity” which has, in my opinion, no place at all in our school system.)

As usual, we are being tricked into thinking this “pride” movement is the same as other notable “pride” movements. The agenda that is tricking us wants us to believe that flying the gay pride flag will unify and strengthen a group of marginalized and oppressed people—the LGBTQIA+ community.

We are being tricked into believing this because the agenda obviously wants the opposite to take place – which is exactly what is happening – not the consequence that most people who blindly support this think will come of it. Common sense should tell us all of this, but obviously common sense has left the room on this issue, as it has on so many other issues in today’s social environment.

I will end this with a snippet from Jordan Peterson, who of course has spoken out on such things. He does not interject how obviously an agenda tactic this all is and instead focuses on the ludicrous notion of using one of the deadly sins as a way to unite people and accommodate people who have been treated poorly by the culture (primarily in the past). Still, what he has to say is notable. [Edited for clarity.]

So, we now have pride month. And what are we celebrating? First of all, what if we don’t celebrate pride? Pride’s a cardinal sin.

And you might say, well, they don’t mean that sort of pride. They mean: “it’s a group of oppressed people. And now they’re just finding their identity, and they’re getting some security in that identity. And what they mean by pride is security in that identity.

But the word is pride. That’s the word that was chosen. And its pride in relationship, as far as I can tell, to nothing but hedonistic self-gratification. So, your identity is going to be your sexual desire? That’s your identity?? Your sexual desire??

So that means you’ve reduced your identity to the MOST immature and hedonistic part of you. The part that would exploit someone else for your own gratification, for example. The part that would exploit YOU for your own gratification. And now that’s your identity. And now that’s what we celebrate.

Yeah, no, that’s a very bad idea.

Let’s all make an effort to come together on this and find a way to support young people who are just coming into their own sense of sexual awareness, as well as the older people who have had to endure any cruel social rejection for the same.

Creating a flag for these groups and advocating a sense of pride for sexual orientation or identity is no more constructive than doing the same for people with blue eyes or red hair. Even if such a group had been seriously persecuted at a certain time for blue eyes or red hair, the remedy for such treatment is not to teach them to be proud of those specific physical attributes.

The remedy would be to show them that they are human—regardless of differing physical attributes—and belong to the larger, all encompassing, family of humanity. And if we must be proud of something, that is something that has the potential to be proud of.

Todd Hayen PhD is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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Matt
Matt
Oct 28, 2024 8:26 AM

Load of religious puritan bollocks. What the fuck is this site these days?

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 28, 2024 5:13 AM

After the discovery of microbes, some people thought this would serve to revitalise the business of witches brew; where the efforts fell flat, governments served as enforcers. After the spread of software bugs, malware and spyware, some people used this to enforce upgrades. After the discovery of nuclear fission, some people thought this was a good analogy to neutralise democracy; enough creativity and money would promote the most superficial or fundamental controversies.

The root disease of oligarchy, corruption and insanity of the rulers remains.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 28, 2024 4:58 AM

A very, very poor analysis.

If Mr Hayen were not an old-fashioned bigoted idiot, both he and Petersen (who he quotes) would realise that sexual orientation predisposes life outcomes in all sorts of ways far, far more serious than whether you get it up for boys, girls, both or neither.

If you are gay, particularly a gay man, then basically the simple concept of fertilising a woman and bringing up a family is not a ‘natural impulse’. If you are going to bring up children, then you have a few choices:

  1. Marry someone who accepts you are gay, cover it up and somehow or other copulate via IVF, surrogacy or whatever.
  2. Marry a guy and then go through lots and lots of hoops to be allowed to adopt children.
  3. Simply don’t bring up children at all.

Just think about that, Mr Hayen. Think about the completely different life structure that evolves from not having the impulses to court a woman, get married and have kids.

Think about all the unspoken societal cues you get from not being married. Think about all the hateful people who think you might be a paedophile, who are plain homophobic, who allow themselves to be ignorant as f**k about all kinds of things, but because they are married with kids, that’s all forgiveable.

But if you are gay and knowledgeable, that’s a reason to attack you. Think about it, Mr Hayen, particularly with regard to ignorant-as-f**k married heterosexuals and Covid19……

I’ve met plenty of unpleasant homosexuals, masses of those who play the victimhood card, plenty who show that being gay can be just as duplicitous as being straight and ambitious within a corrupt culture.

But given the way society acts towards those who don’t raise a family, you have to have some kind of pride in yourself to fight all that reality, don’t you????

ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
Oct 28, 2024 3:23 AM

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Steve
Steve
Oct 28, 2024 2:00 AM

Pride is extra

Skinnymouse
Skinnymouse
Oct 28, 2024 1:06 AM

More food for thought. Some things I never thought about before. Thank you Todd!

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 27, 2024 11:49 PM

Yes, spot on, flags were developed to exclude. As is religion, gay, hetero, black or white pride. Now, if we could all just get along without delving into everybody’s sexuality, religion, nationality and race, things would be dandy amongst we, the people. 

However, that’s not what the controllers want, is it? They actively foster division to muddy our awareness of who is scheming to do us harm and to scatter our resolve to unite in combatting the slave drivers.

Paul
Paul
Oct 27, 2024 9:11 PM

Proud of yourself? Good for you. Nothing to do with me.

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Oct 27, 2024 9:07 PM

yeah it’s a LOT of letters in that acronym, every time I look it seems to get longer, I can remember what the first few stand for, but then I’m lost, and there’s a “+” on the end too? is that meant as short-hand for a whole nother bowl full of alphabet soup?

back when gays and lesbians were getting beaten up by cops in US cities and towns, some of them at least were induced to open their eyes and see the shallowness and suffocating narrow-mindedness of the Establishment and mainstream conformity and could make common cause with other system critics on a broad front, but when the establishment changed its tack and welcomed them into the fold, most of them happily accepted its numbing embrace, signing up even to join the ranks of its uniformed executioners at Armed Forces recruiting centers, so delighted to now share in the privileges of the oppressors and leave behind the Coventry of the oppressed

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 27, 2024 11:23 PM

Problem is there are too many different types of people for them to suddenly come together, on just about any issue, except fright.

Heterosexual is a beauty
Heterosexual is a beauty
Oct 27, 2024 5:35 PM

What is the Heterosexual flag? Maybe I need to make one up like others seem to be doing. I have no qualms about other’s preferences but that’s not me to promote it either.

if I identify as car would I need to drink fuel looool

Howard
Howard
Oct 27, 2024 4:20 PM

Word to the Wise: Jordan Peterson does not strengthen any argument. Dr. Hayen contrasts Gay Pride with several others which, apparently, pass muster. Has Mr. Peterson dissed those other kinds of Pride according to the same standard he uses to dis Gay Pride?

Reducing Gay Pride to a celebration of pure hedonistic lust speaks volumes about the real true motive of objecting to Gay Pride. Yes it’s true that the media runs everything into the ground and have encouraged the most outrageous expressions of Gay or any other manner of Pride for the sake of generating ratings. Yes, it’s also true that Gay Pride is fast becoming homosexuals’ worst nightmare – as all dreams come true turn out to be. But to write it off as a celebration of hedonism is just plain vicious. And does that make Straight Pride a celebration also of hedonism – because wouldn’t straights be celebrating their primary distinguishing feature from gays: what they do in bed? The whole mess is such a convoluted kettle of fish it ought to be sent packing before it stinks everyone out.

Besides which, ALL flags are evil, be they rainbows or red-white-and-blues. (Except maybe for the Don’t Tread On Me. Ah, but that’s a snake, isn’t it? Pure Satanism!)

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Oct 27, 2024 8:34 PM
Reply to  Howard

I think the gay stream of orientations is only 6 or 7 letters long.
I imagine the stream of letters for ‘straights’ would be massively longer –
there’s so much deviance among ‘straights’….

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 27, 2024 3:45 PM

Anything outside the universal man and woman constellation is an anomaly. Nothing to be proud of.

ariel
ariel
Oct 27, 2024 8:37 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

And arguing with the ‘Grand Designer?’

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 27, 2024 2:47 PM

The “pride” issue doesn’t follow on from any logical course. If it was simply about tolerance then the entire issue has been won and indeed was won decades ago. Nobody cares what consenting adults do in private. Ah but the entire concept of “pride” negates the concept of privacy. And the propagandists for the parasite regime are perfectly aware of this and indeed that is why they cooked up this pride crap in the first place.
 
Though to be fair it also plays into the hands of capitalist consumerism where every demographic must be catered to with “lifestyles” involving brands and logos and lots of lovely lucrative consumer items.
 
So on the one hand, there’s a lovely gravy train with all the trinkets involved and, on the other, there’s the divide-and-rule angle.
 
And what better for the old divide-and-rule than to have a mass of useful idiots waving their genitalia around in public to rile up the conservatives – as well as providing another platform for porn which has always been enormously lucrative.  
 
And one of the reasons for the trans shite is the need to drum up yet another shamelessly provocative public demographic when the old ones were becoming too pale and mundane (e.g. “the only gay in the village”). This time, the new demographic was a totally manufactured and nonsensical one. Which was of course all the more appealing to the mind-steerers.

Eleventy Seventy
Eleventy Seventy
Oct 27, 2024 2:46 PM

I hadn’t really done much critical thinking on this subject before so your article brings up some insightful points I hadn’t even considered. Thanks Todd

Derek Diamond
Derek Diamond
Oct 27, 2024 1:50 PM

“John paused for a moment, and right when I was about to ask him what he thinks a good man is, he answered the question without me having to ask.” Anthony Goulet

What is a Good Man?” A Conversation with John Trudell

December 8, 2015 by Anthony Goulet 

https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/good-man-conversation-john-trudell-human-kerj/

Notes on the Rise and Development of Patriarchy(Heide Goettner-Abendroth)
https://goettner-abendroth.de/en/matriarchy/rise-of-patriarchy

The Cleansing / Red Earth Song

https://youtu.be/hsrRNBnoDHE?si=aS6PS03RcXO7TNKE

Camille
Camille
Oct 27, 2024 1:40 PM

Wonderful article!!!

antonym
antonym
Oct 27, 2024 11:00 AM

I mentioned that flags themselves were developed to exclude. The pride one feels for a nation’s flag is an exclusionary response—the flag represents “us” and excludes “them.” That is the whole point. You either belong to the group this flag represents, or you are the enemy.

Could have been written by the WEF Globalists. Adolf H. was supported by their predecessors and did a good job of smearing nationalism as state egoism instead of a tolerant but self protected cultural niche. Most Germans never over came that confidence trick till today, while practically forgetting their great musicians or scientists. It takes a special milieu to nurture such, uniqueness over uniformity.

The Pride sex setup on the other hand wants a global movement. Problem is that most of Asia, Africa and South America still have traditional values left so are a hard nut to crack, particularly the most sex based religion, the one of Mo the mono ideologue who liked poly sex for men only.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 27, 2024 11:54 PM
Reply to  antonym

Brazil?!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 27, 2024 10:42 AM

The appropriate symbol?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/26/david-lloyd-george-birthplace-museum-decolonised-diverse/
https://archive.ph/XaWoC
David Lloyd George’s birthplace to be ‘decolonised’
Museum honouring First World War leader is set to ‘promote a multicultural, vibrant and diverse Wales’ which may include LGBT displays

Craig Simpson
Arts Editor
26 October 2024

David Lloyd George’s childhood cottage is to be “decolonised” with the help of funding from the Welsh Government.
The Liberal prime minister’s modest birthplace in rural Wales has been converted into a museum, which has been swept into plans to make his homeland “anti-racist”.
The museum in Llanystumdwy honouring Britain’s First World War leader has worked with a “decolonisation consultant” to change its approach to history, and LGBT displays could be included in future.
The decolonising consultancy service was paid for by Labour government grants set aside for museums to conduct work which will “set the right historic narrative” and “promote a multicultural, vibrant and diverse Wales”.

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Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Oct 27, 2024 1:28 PM

“set the right historic narrative” and “promote a multicultural, vibrant and diverse Wales”.

In other words, a Wales that isn’t Wales.

Behold! the Rainbow Dragon!

esure
esure
Oct 27, 2024 10:11 AM

Talking of agent orange.

Fake president Ronald mac Donald Trump visits maccy D’s and starts working and serving up french fries! Got love the happy meal yellow programming from being young.

what an amazing publicity stunt. ;0)

then ….

One day ago

CDC says 75 sickened as deadly McDonald’s E. coli outbreak …CDC says an E. coli food poisoning outbreak tied to McDonald’s Quarter Pounders has expanded, with at least 75 people sick in 13

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Oct 27, 2024 9:23 AM

people with red hair have, fyi.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2024 9:15 AM
p.s.
p.s.
Oct 27, 2024 8:59 AM

Here, Mr. Anglin presents us with the partly sparsely refined world view of his brain. I think he deserves love. Not because he is so clever, but because he is so entertaining and amusing. And that’s all he really wants and expects. https://dailystormer.in/i-need-to-go-back-through-the-basics/

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2024 8:54 AM
Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2024 8:49 AM

In Australia we have an expression “Fair go mate”

It just means everyone, no matter what race, religion, social status or sexual proclivity, is given a ‘Fair go’, a chance, an even break.

I would make an exception for the $uiturd$ though.
They are PARASITES.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 27, 2024 10:34 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I thought “fair go” was outlawed in Oz in 2020 ?

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2024 10:54 AM

Good point.
Mass brainwashing resulted in
Fair go _ _ _ _ne.

Something to do with the deference most Folks have for science and medicine,

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 27, 2024 8:46 AM

Look up who Harry Hay was.

Homosexuality was classified as a mental illness until 1973 – it’s funny how most of the rainbow crowd are also ultra-pro the mental health agenda and want everyone in psychotherapy ASAP. Who knows what will be classified as a mental illness requiring “treatment” in 2073?

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Oct 27, 2024 7:22 AM

Satan’s little minions sowing division, one brainwashed oppressed group at a time.
Little pawns in a much bigger game of anti humanity and anti Christianity…

entitlement
entitlement
Oct 27, 2024 6:05 AM

Ridiculous article.

prime example of someone who watches MIC CC alt media and repeats the manufactured talking points.

I dont get my knickers in a twist over toilets, as on trains, planes, restaurants or when I visited friends houses when I need a wee wee, I use a toilet without having a fake tic tok recorded episode screaming trannies Armageddon trying to take away our toilets rights.

Flags are for fools, mindcontrol fools.

ending with Jordan Peterson quote sums up mind control and a prime example of a caring religious man who appeared via the net in a algorithm contrived manufactured manner via working for the UN to fool weak minded midgets and then JP then goes work for dassom intelligence outfit.
 👁 
 💤 

only thing missing from OD this week is a McDonald advert discount for Trump or the Tommy Halloween march update arrest.

Rob
Rob
Oct 27, 2024 12:34 PM
Reply to  entitlement

Bingo.