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Post-Election Truths: The Things That Won’t Change (No Matter Who Wins)

John & Nisha Whitehead

After months of handwringing and mud-slinging and fear-mongering, the votes have finally been cast and the outcome has been decided: the Deep State has won.

Despite the billions spent to create the illusion of choice culminating in the reassurance ritual of voting for Donald Trump or Kamala Harris, when it comes to most of the big issues that keep us in bondage to authoritarian overlords, not much will change.

Despite all of the work that has been done to persuade us to buy into the fantasy that things will change if we just elect the “right” political savior, the day after a new president is sworn in, it will be business as usual for the unelected bureaucracy that actually runs the government.

War will continue. Drone killings will continue. Surveillance will continue. Censorship of anyone who criticizes the government will continue. The government’s efforts to label dissidents as extremists and terrorists will continue. Police shootings will continue. SWAT team raids will continue. Highway robbery meted out by government officials will continue. Corrupt government will continue. Profit-driven prisons will continue. And the militarization of the police will continue.

These problems have persisted—and in many cases flourished—under both Republican and Democratic administrations in recent years.

The outcome of this year’s election changes none of that.

Indeed, take a look at the programs and policies that will not be affected by the 2024 presidential election, and you’ll get a clearer sense of the government’s priorities, which have little to do with representing the taxpayers and everything to do with amassing money, power and control.

The undermining of the Constitution will continue unabated. America’s so-called war on terror, which it has relentlessly pursued since 9/11, has chipped away at our freedoms, unraveled our Constitution and transformed our nation into a battlefield, thanks in large part to such subversive legislation as the USA Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act. These laws—which completely circumvent the rule of law and the constitutional rights of American citizens, re-orienting our legal landscape in such a way as to ensure that martial law, rather than the rule of law, our U.S. Constitution, becomes the map by which we navigate life in the United States—will continue to be enforced.

The government’s war on the American people will continue unabated.  “We the people” are no longer shielded by the rule of law. While the First Amendment—which gives us a voice—is being muzzled, the Fourth Amendment—which protects us from being bullied, badgered, beaten, broken and spied on by government agents—is being disemboweled. Consequently, you no longer have to be poor, black or guilty to be treated like a criminal in America. All that is required is that you belong to the suspect class—that is, the citizenry—of the American police state. As a de facto member of this so-called criminal class, every U.S. citizen is now guilty until proven innocent. The oppression and injustice—be it in the form of shootings, surveillance, fines, asset forfeiture, prison terms, roadside searches, and so on—will come to all of us eventually unless we do something to stop it now.

The shadow government— a.k.a. the Deep State, a.k.a. the police state, a.k.a. the military industrial complex, a.k.a. the surveillance state complex—will continue unabated. The corporatized, militarized, entrenched bureaucracy that is fully operational and staffed by unelected officials will continue to call the shots in Washington DC, no matter who sits in the White House or controls Congress. By “government,” I’m not referring to the highly partisan, two-party bureaucracy of the Republicans and Democrats. Rather, I’m referring to “government” with a capital “G,” the entrenched Deep State that is unaffected by elections, unaltered by populist movements, and has set itself beyond the reach of the law.

The government’s manipulation of national crises in order to expand its powers will continue unabated. “We the people” have been subjected to an “emergency state” that justifies all manner of government tyranny and power grabs in the so-called name of national security. Whatever the so-called threat to the nation, the government has a tendency to capitalize on the nation’s heightened emotions, confusion and fear as a means of extending the reach of the police state. Indeed, the government’s answer to every problem continues to be more government—at taxpayer expense—and less individual liberty.

Endless wars that enrich the military industrial complex will continue unabated. America’s expanding military empire is bleeding the country dry at a rate of more than $93 million an hour (that adds up to $920 billion annually). Incredibly, although the U.S. constitutes only 5% of the world’s population, America boasts almost 40% of the world’s total military expenditure, spending more on the military than the next 9 biggest spending nations combined.

Government corruption will continue unabated.  The government is not our friend. Nor does it work for “we the people.” Americans instinctively understand this. When asked to name the greatest problem facing the nation, Americans of all political stripes ranked the government as the number one concern. In fact, almost three-quarters of Americans surveyed believe the government is corrupt. Our so-called government representatives do not actually represent us, the citizenry. We are now ruled by an oligarchic elite of governmental and corporate interests whose main interest is in perpetuating power and control.

Government tyranny under the reign of an Imperial President will continue unabated. The Constitution invests the President with very specific, limited powers. In recent years, however, American presidents have anointed themselves with the power to wage war, unilaterally kill Americans, torture prisoners, strip citizens of their rights, arrest and detain citizens indefinitely, carry out warrantless spying on Americans, and erect their own secretive, shadow government. The powers amassed by each past president and inherited by each successive president—powers which add up to a toolbox of terror for an imperial ruler—empower whoever occupies the Oval Office to act as a dictator, above the law and beyond any real accountability.

The grim reality we must come to terms with is the fact that the U.S. government has become a greater menace to the life, liberty and property of its citizens than any of the so-called dangers from which the government claims to protect us.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, this state of affairs has become the status quo, no matter which party is in power.

Originally published via The Rutherford Institute

Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]. Nisha Whitehead is the Executive Director of The Rutherford Institute. Information about The Rutherford Institute is available at www.rutherford.org.

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jack
jack
Nov 13, 2024 9:16 AM

Why has the Rutherford Institute never questioned 911 and the fact that it was an inside job? Very suspicious

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 12, 2024 6:42 PM
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 7:44 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Good link. But the Bible still explains it all. The Devil got jealous on what our Great Designer did and declared he could do it better.

As we are made in God’s image we can all understand this envy and conflict between two.

So you see, all these hybrids, robots, AI, man merged with machine, are designed to do it better than our Great Designer……………..but fail, again and again and again fail, and always will fail.
Your Beast cant do it better than our Human Designer.

Isnt it pathetic you reached 2025 and by Google/Habib declare, “in a few years we will be at the level of ordinary people”.
Ohh so the Beast has spent since Adam and Eve to try to do it better, around 6000 years, but still has a few years to reach ordinary level of humans? Get lost!

Monkey Biz
Monkey Biz
Nov 12, 2024 12:25 PM

Well, Trump has just said he will deal with the bureaucrats in government, as well as a bunch of others like the intelligence agencies and Big Pharma shills… he doesn’t need to make more pormises now that he won, so let’s see.

Karl Skellenger
Karl Skellenger
Nov 12, 2024 5:57 PM
Reply to  Monkey Biz

yes, I agree. This rag is looking more and more like an operation to discredit and derail any potential chance of change coming from Trump. Nothing but a tribe of Jacobin’s hell bent on derailing the one chance for a successful revolution. The only thing solution on offer from their side is chaos.

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 12, 2024 6:43 PM

Marco Rubio for SOS? Draining the swamp alright.

Researcher
Researcher
Nov 12, 2024 7:28 PM
Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 9:29 AM

November 11th.
Remembrance Day in Australia today.

A day to commemorate all the fallen soldiers in all the wars that our ‘honourable’, kowtowing, lickspittle, politicians committed young lives to.

Lest we NEVER, EVER forget.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 9:41 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Not today you silly old bugger!
It was yesterday.

No matter, same sentiment applies.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 11:24 AM
Reply to  Johnny
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 2:57 PM
Reply to  Johnny

I only remember 9/11 the day where the terrorists attacked America and our Constitution, and showed how vulnerable and defenceless America is against a bunch of burqa vagabonds with bone knives.

I dont recall any wars. Only defence of our freedom!

Thom
Thom
Nov 12, 2024 8:04 AM

True but the figurehead makes at least some difference, no? Let’s assume the President is simply a puppet within the US, he or she can still meet world leaders and shift the foreign policy agenda, for example.

Andy
Andy
Nov 12, 2024 7:59 AM

Points taken about Trump being the same old same old.
But he’s not though is he? given the intense vitriol he generates in leftist demons.
Ditto the unrelenting lawfare waged against him.
Not to mention the fact they’ve tried to MURDER the man not once but twice, surrounding him with a bunch of ineffectual female feds.
Let that sink in – THEY TRIED TO MURDER TRUMP.

judith
judith
Nov 12, 2024 11:48 AM
Reply to  Andy

You’re joking, right?

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Nov 12, 2024 4:53 PM
Reply to  judith

Is there any evidence you would accept? He would need to get his head blown off in HD in front of billions in a live stream, and then you would believe? Or no?

judith
judith
Nov 12, 2024 10:24 PM

Yes, I would believe it then.

I hope to God that NO ONE gets harmed or killed.
But I do not believe the assassination attempts were real. I just don’t.

I don’t believe most of anything anymore.

And although I believe US politics is pretty much a corrupt show, I do hope the transition in January is a peaceful one.

And please God they do not fake another “insurgence”.

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 12, 2024 4:56 PM
Reply to  Andy

Let this sink in Andy – no, “they” didn’t. You might want to back off on that one because it just ain’t true. But if you do have some actual proof that “they” did it, other than generic “they hate him”, hyperbole, I’d sure like to see it.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Nov 13, 2024 11:12 AM
Reply to  Andy

Andy.

I share your hope that Trump will deliver but I am under no illusion that he is not a flawed individual.

And the assassination attempts? – looks like pure theatre and probably got thousands of swing voters.

They like that sort of thing.

NickM
NickM
Nov 12, 2024 6:04 AM

The things that don’t change. Written a century ago,this book describes how Anglo Zio Capitalism took over Socialism and Medical Officialdom to transform a freedom-loving English country into the Servile State.

GK Chesterton, Eugenics and Other Evils, chapter 7. He foresaw Stormer’s New Liebore regime but he did not foresee New Liebore prime ministers B.Liar and Brown becoming directors in Rothschild finance and arms companies.

NickM
NickM
Nov 13, 2024 7:09 AM
Reply to  NickM

Things that don’t change. How New Liebore Broke Britain.

https://youtu.be/AtCsp1aXxKw?si=df8xWLVAQRAYl4Pm

With mugshots of 2 who earned their directorships in Rothschild companies and one hardworking hopeful.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 5:33 AM

Post election, Cuba is in for a very bumpy ride;

https://dissidentvoice.org/2024/11/why-cuba-hasnt-adjusted-to-us-sanctions-after-six-decades/

The USian psychopaths are an ugly, vengeful bunch of TURDS.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Nov 12, 2024 7:47 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Cuba’s current crisis was birthed during the scamdemic. The same scamdemic of which its government played along, including producing their own toxic sludge to inject their population. They produced several Covid-1984 vaccines.

Depsite the US sanctioning the country, Cuba seems incapable of buying essential goods and trading with the other 200 countries of the world who have not sanctioned it. Surely, China, Russia and India would be sufficient to trade with, especially since China makes pretty much everything in the world.

Having spoken with many Cubans who have left, one thing is clear, they don’t blame the US for their woes, they blame the system.

One that they try to work around, buying goods on the black market where available. People are resourceful, for example renovating homes by purchasing two bags of cement with a permit, while buying 20 on the black market. Leaving the two on a table, just in case the inspector arrives, which they can then show him with the correct paperwork. Being friendly with government officials such as inspectors by offering them a drink, and perhaps a few nails or screws they have ‘spare’, since he too is in need of materials.

The people who talk up the system in Cuba are the beneficiaries of it, government employees and also the part-time informants, such as the guy who has a fruit stall but also listens to peoples conversations while working and reporting back to his handlers.

That is life in Cuba.

All the Cubans I have met who left the island are much happier, working or setting up small businesses in the West. Ordinary people who arrived with little but were keen to work hard to achieve something they could not in their home country.

Cuba is an experiment by the same controllers that run the rest of the world. An island where it was easy to isolate and control the flow of people and goods.

Freemasonry flourishes there. It was never banned like it was in other communist countries.

https://www.exutopia.com/fidel-castro-the-curious-case-of-freemasonry-in-cuba/

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 8:12 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Thanks RR.
Interesting information.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 4:19 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

I dont buy this without further confirmation on the spot. The Cuba has a long history of exile Cubans living in Florida smearing the Cuban society for decades.

If you are happy to live in another country, you only smear you home country because your present country urge and pay you for doing it.

Cuba has other areas they can boast of, for example medicine and medical education, and further they are a proud people.
But the hate for the Swine Bay defeat and eternal lust for revenge will lay in the US soul for centuries.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Nov 13, 2024 7:34 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Cuba does have a good biotech industry. I know someone who worked there.

The Cubans I know well, a couple as friends, and those others I have met are not smearing their country, they were talking about life in general.

They are not living in America and are not exiles, they go home regularly to see family and friends. There is a world beyond the USA where people move to live.

I have met people from all of the world and people often love their country but not their governments or some aspects of the system.

Do you love your government? Is another government paying you to “smear” your own country? I assume not.

I find a lot out by just talking to people, and asking them questions during conversations because I am interested. Try it sometime.

Ordinary people are not “urged or paid” to do that in casual conversations. That is a ridiculous suggestion.

Researcher
Researcher
Nov 12, 2024 7:34 PM
Reply to  Johnny

You really push that country versus country psyop, hard, don’t you. It’s not even vaguely believable.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 8:55 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I didn’t write the piece.
Jingoism is real.

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 12, 2024 4:00 AM

Ya, but we might get fluoride out of the water and RFK is going to make sure vaccines are safe and that the FDA is honest, and Musk is going to stop pushing electric cars so Trump can drill the oil, baby, and shit like that. Take that to the bank. But don’t try to buy a house.

Really, all Trump has to do is issue an Executive Order declaring himself King. It would confuse the hell out of people because everybody would be going, “can he do that!?”. And then someone would read the Constitution and say, “hey, just wait a darn minute”. And everybody else would say, “oh, shut up about the Constitution, that was over 200 years ago”. And then Trump would be King and all the billionaires would live happily ever after. Until they became trillionaires. But first, Musk, we absolutely must have a trillionaire leading the peasants, it’s only right.

les online
les online
Nov 12, 2024 2:50 AM

In the 1970s the Belgium Marxist economist, after using his “little gray matter” pointed out that The US economy is a War economy, and, if it stopped producing for war, its economy would collapse. So – if you dont want the US economy to collapse dont oppose its wars !

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 12, 2024 4:45 AM
Reply to  les online

Bs. It is possible to establish other industries than MIC. It is absolutely possible to establish other decent jobs than Military defending a Global drug cartel.

US posses 50% of global costs to military, but they say Big Pharma is bigger than Big Military.
So the Military fight wars for the Global Drug Business, both the Illegal, opium, heroine, cocaine, marihuana, and the legal, pills, tablets, injections of various substances to maintain deceases, dependence and revenues to a bloodsucking Elite!

Kings, Princes, Queens, and Nobility billionaires of the World are simply tough drug dealers for the cause of money. Nothing higher than that!

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Nov 12, 2024 11:44 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The war on (illegal) drugs was never a success and nor was it meant to be.

There is way too much money to be made all around by the cartels, organised crime gangs, the alphabet agencies, those who doesn’t mind taking brown envelopes plus the powerful and well connected who indirectly reap the financial rewards but maintain enough to distance to claim plausible deniability.

Then, all that cash needs to be laundered, so the banking system, or elements of it, along with especially the property market enable it to be parked and enter the legitimate economic system.

You could call it, the trickle down effect, from ‘farm’ to the needle, glass pipe, rolled up dollar bill, or joint.

Meanwhile, the average schmuck who attempts to withdraw from or deposit a few thousand in cash using his bank account, gets given the Spanish Inquisition and is treated like a criminal.

“Rules for thee, but not for me”.

Karl Skellenger
Karl Skellenger
Nov 12, 2024 6:12 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

yes, I have definitely had that experience when going into the bank to withdraw a couple thousand dollars to fix a fence that had been torn up by a storm. And then again, when I opened a savings account with a couple thousand dollars and was delayed for several days before Homeland security could confirm my identity, even though the bank had already made copies of my drivers license. They definitely make sure that you know you’re being watched with every minor transaction in this country today.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 4:33 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Yes, they are really tough on the little guy who try to save up………….LOL.
He is only supposed to owe and pay to debt his entire life.
But the pattern is obvious.
Here on the drug market, they control both the black market and the white market.
In wars they control both the attacking country and the victim country.
In food, they control the awful artificial industry food and the “do-gooder ecological food”.
In Agri business they control the Industrial scale Agri and the control the Ecologist who do environmental protective eco vegetables and fruits.
Divide and conquer.

some stuff
some stuff
Nov 12, 2024 2:00 AM

An outcry goes through Belgium. As is often the case, the TikTok outrage of a young white woman about “racism” in a comic book was the trigger. Once again, political correctness has won the day. We remember: Belgium is the tiny country that is home to the self-proclaimed “European capital” and notorious above all for its criminal Moroccan minority, which is already becoming the majority in many places.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/nov/05/belgian-comic-book-withdrawn-amid-outrage-over-racist-depictions

“It also features a clone of Donald Trump, and the ship
staffed by racist caricatures is called the USS Obama.”

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/spirou-and-the-blue-gorgon-sells-for-380-after-racism-controversy/

Back in 2011, the classic comic strip “Tintin in Congo” was banned after the Congolese Bienvenu Mbutu Mondondo (who apparently lives in Belgium) successfully went to court and complained of a racist mischaracterization of his compatriots. He was represented by a lawyer named Alain Berenboom, himself a child of immigrants (father Polish, mother Lithuanian Jew).

Mr. Berenboom was also the lawyer of the king’s successor, Albert II, and made sure that a mixed-race child illegitimately conceived by the king in Congo was recognized as an equal in the royal family. However, when a white woman also made the same claim, Mr. Berenboom pointed out that this could not be decided by a court, but only by the royal family itself.

American “feminists” have taken South Korea as a shining example and want to “punish” all men who voted for Trump with sex deprivation and childlessness. A serious threat that no patriot who wants to be intimate with “progressive” women should take lightly!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/07/4b-movement-trump-women

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 10:15 PM
Reply to  some stuff

“complained of a racist mischaracterization of his compatriots”

How did he work out they were supposed to be his compatriots?

A. Because it looked like them. Caricatures are not racist, they mock everyone.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 10:22 PM
Reply to  some stuff

Tintin has good medical advice too.
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Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 4:42 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Corona vaxx early in the morning, directly up in the BBB the Blood Brain Barrier  😂 .

antonym
antonym
Nov 12, 2024 1:05 AM

Repeating stuff makes its “muscle” stronger; repeating negative pasts publicly makes those memes stronger.

The Whiteheads are doing a yeoman’s service for the Black hats.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 11, 2024 11:37 PM

Change begins with ‘Moi’
Always has and always will.

We can’t save the world but we can savour Life.
After all, Life and Love are the only real deeply spiritual experiences in our brief sojourn on Earth.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Nov 11, 2024 11:28 PM

‘Draining The Swamp’. Interpretation: ‘It’s better to have The Swamp inside the tent pissing out, than have The Swamp outside pissing in.’

‘It’s Business As Usual, and a few crumbs thrown to the masses.’

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Nov 11, 2024 9:43 PM
Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 11, 2024 10:33 PM

There certainly is Intelligent Design at work. And a Divine Intelligence. And would agree that any geocentric model of the universe has never been adequately disproved (an earth going around a sun doesn’t actually do that). And yes of course, the Big Bang Theory is complete BS.

Nevertheless, the sky is good indicator of what’s above at any time (a glorious moon this night). And how to explain how my star software package accurately depicts the sky every night based on more traditional models?

Still much to explain

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 12, 2024 5:02 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

YOU lack to explain how the earth is NOT going around the sun???

I ask for it because the prevalent story actually makes logical sense.

The earth circulate around the sun 1 year for a circle. While the earth circulate around the sun it circulates around itself. While the earth circulate around the sun and itself, the moon circulate around the earth and pull in the earth by its gravity.

The above gives us day and night, tide low and high two times a day, our waves, our stream and wind formations. The earth goes in periods in its circulation a little close to the sun which gives the earth periods of tropical clima of 40C, and in other periods a little far from the sun which gives the earth ice ages of -40C.

Within this frame we human, the earth most developed specie, are able to be alive and live. It is a simple and logical and true explanation.

This whole sun interconnected universe of ours move through the universe.
This explanation fits too with the Bible’s description of a Creator and spiritual forces in the high.
Our whole universe is simply too intelligent constructed and designed to have arrived here “all by itself” through “millions of billions of years”.

It is THAT easy man!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 12, 2024 6:09 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You are of course absolutely correct regarding our solar system. That’s the most logical explanation.

I think I had in mind the distinction between the solar system and the Universe as a whole ie all the stars and planets in existence. That the earth could still theoretically be at the centre of that greater Universe. Probably no way of knowing, so open to speculation.

I think there was a 2014 documentary to that effect called “The Principle”.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 8:34 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

The Earth at the centre of the Universe, or the ‘I’ ?
And I don’t mean that in a solipsistic sense.

We come into this world completely innocent and alone and are shaped by everyone and everything around us.
Then we die. Completely alone.
No one dies with us.

The closest we can be to ‘inhabiting’ another human being is in the act of Lovemaking.

Perhaps that’s why making Love (as opposed to having sex) is such an awesome and uplifting experience. A ‘spiritual’ connection is made.

We try to find substitutes but there are none. Hence the addiction to materialism, authority and substances.

The ‘centre cannot hold’.

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Nov 12, 2024 1:08 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

you would be better off saying that the sun and the earth orbit each other seeing as there is no fixed frame of reference in the vacuum of space

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 11, 2024 10:37 PM

Pending…

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 9:20 AM

Dubay, eloquent and persuasive is making a buck (or lot of bucks) with his twisted, upside down, back to front logic.

He should get a real job.

Planets round = Earth round.

Why do Earthlings get to live on the only flat planet?
And what’s underneath us?
Elephants standing on top of elephants?

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Nov 12, 2024 1:14 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Planets round = Earth round

Quite the circular argument

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 12, 2024 10:53 PM

Been gazing upwards to find a disc. All I see is saucers.

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Nov 11, 2024 9:15 PM

There is something that changes with every election.

A few people undergo the epiphany that voting (democracy) is a veneer over totalitarianism, i.e. that TPTB remain inviolate, and that the notion that the people elect a government to serve them is a soporific

As we get ever closer to TSHTF so this coffee aroma will be made ever stronger.

At some point they’ll put a mannikin in a burqa and make it US president. All they have to do is ensure it can orate from an autocue. All doubters will be liable for religious hate crimes.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 11, 2024 8:43 PM

Might it not be the cynics who won’t change regardless of who wins?

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 11, 2024 9:54 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

It has to be said that Trump is putting on good theatre. He’s saying great things after the election (bluntly called out climate fraud, attacked the WHO.)

When did it last happen in that order? Things have never looked more promising.

If he is faking it, they have at least brought some decent scriptwriters in. I was thoroughly sick of the previous retarded episode.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 11, 2024 10:31 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

He’s courting alt-media. For the reasons I outlined below. It’s Anti-Deep-State-Think.

But beware. There may be ulterior motives at work

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 11, 2024 10:44 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Since when don’t politicians lie?

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 12, 2024 4:11 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

Things have never looked more promising? And it’s unanimous? I must be missing something about this place. Look at who he’s hiring, look at HIM for crying out loud. The man is a fake in zio Israel’s pockets. Do you know what that means relative to about everything, i.e., war, imperialism, immigration, society? I think there are a lot of people on this blog that haven’t been doing their research.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 6:15 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Do you understand that “more positive” is a relative term? I already know things have been deliberately turned to shit and no public figure can be trusted.

If you fully believe that the entire show is scripted, why are you even here discussing it? Seriously. Because if we really are at Truman Show levels of fakery there’s nothing we can do about it short of full blown revolution. Are you pushing for revolution? If not, what are you offering? Just despair and your feeling a smug satisfaction that you’re
“smart” enough to have given up entirely?What a strange thing to be proud of.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 12, 2024 10:08 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

O/T, but just in case you don’t look back to the earlier article. Below is a link to my reply to your post to me of yesterday which I’ve only just seen (N.B., have only just posted my response 10 minutes ago, so it might not be printed yet):

https://off-guardian.org/2024/11/08/death-but-not-as-we-knew-it/#comment-695872

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 6:28 PM

Lady, I’m tired of being respectful and kind to you. You’ve actually chased me into a different article page because I won’t obey your demands to accept your declarations of “fact”?? That’s a new one on me.

You need psychiatric help. I held back from saying this before because I knew you’d take it as an insult.

I made it clear in my previous post (the one you are ‘replying’ to, and shown below) that I had given up on talking to you.

You can’t be reasoned with. Go away.

I did not ridicule or abuse you. I simply explained how flawed and ineffective your way of presenting yourself is. It’s called helping.

I have been incredibly polite to you. Even kind. Yet still you rant.

I said to you earlier: “I’m sure you can communicate in a more friendly way.”

You have proven me wrong.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 13, 2024 10:04 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

What I have stated IS the 100% factual truth!!! As you will one day discover. (And then you’ll be forced to say to yourself “Oh no, what that Christine said was the truth. No wonder she was enraged at the ridicule and abuse she received from us”.)

You think I need ‘psychiatric’ ‘help’ for stating 100% factual truths?!?
I most certainly don’t!!!

This is the last time I’ll be posting on this site; it has far too many Fundamentalist Christians and far too many closed-minded materialists.
Thank goodness I have people in my actual, real life who are also spiritually-enlightened. We all get ridicule and abuse from uninformed, closed-minded people. Their problem, not ours.

Paul
Paul
Nov 13, 2024 7:44 PM

Lol

sue fielding
sue fielding
Nov 11, 2024 8:40 PM

I followed John Whitehead, for a while but no longer. Why Off Guardian has chosen to resurrect this depressing piece of unadulterated surrender, I cannot imagine. What for? To depress the reader? What he says is undoubtedly true of the last four years and other terms (to a lesser degree) before that, but we are entering a new phase and I think we would do better to get on with our lives as best we can by boycotting suspect companies, avoiding Big Med, supporting traditional farming methods, chucking our mobiles and remaining optimistic.
Note: for readers in general, if you think Trumps Operation Warpspeed supported the globalist plan, then it’s clear, to me at least, that you have no clue what it was really about. It’s a good idea to do some in-depth research before taking a stance. Whilst I imagine that Off Guardian readers eschew the Mockingbird Media, there is no good reason to assume that all independent/alternative journalists are anti-globalist. Many of them are plants.
Dear Editor/s – Let’s have some more positive stuff for a change. All is NOT lost.

judith
judith
Nov 12, 2024 12:02 PM
Reply to  sue fielding

Well, I have to disagree here. I have sent this Whitehead piece to a few people that have asked me how I feel after the elections.

I think it sums it up perfectly. I don’t consider that a negative. I consider that reality.

I am very very thankful for pieces like it, and commentary from other independent journalists and substack writers/commenters who see the same reality.

Articles like this help me lift my jaw off the floor after reading the “whoopie, It’s a new (free) day!” hopium from people in the “health freedom movement” who one would think knew better.

It does not matter a whit who is in the White House. Only so far as what administration gets blamed for the catastrophe of the day/term.

All is not lost for me when I keep it simple and take responsibility for my own life and not look to the government’s one party system for anything positive.

They’re all playing golf with each other today.

Karl Skellenger
Karl Skellenger
Nov 12, 2024 6:25 PM
Reply to  sue fielding

I’d like to know more about any positive interpretation of operation or speed. I’ve not come across it in my hundreds of hours of listening to podcasts and reading articles.

sue fielding
sue fielding
Nov 12, 2024 8:47 PM

Hello Karl, it’s Warpspeed actually and I’m surprised you didn’t come across in early 2021. Anyway, here is a link to an X post video. You may not want to see it all but I suggest you grit your teeth (if necessary) – the relevant to warpspeed stuff come later on. It is, after all, a video to wake up as well as explain. I will look forward to your reaction, assuming you will watch it all have an opinion.https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1852879056800219283

turesankara
turesankara
Nov 11, 2024 8:23 PM

Scamala Harris served the voters word salads 🗣️🥗 and CONald tRump sold the voters lies 🐑 🐺

GEORGE ORWELL:
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. If you want a picture of the future imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever.” — 1984

Fascism comes in Blue Maga or Red Maga boots 🥾

We now return the voters to their regularly scheduled mind reprogramming for the next four years 📺

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 12, 2024 5:11 AM
Reply to  turesankara

Smart phone screen in the morning, Macbook screen before midday, PowerPoint screen afternoon, and Television screen at night.
After a few years these idiots will forever live and be told reality through a 2-dimensional flat screen, and never be able to relate themselves to a 3-dimensional world which is the true reality.
AI and its robots and their serfs will carry out everything “out there”.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 10:35 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Smartphones are infeasibly cheap for what they can do. They are undoubtedly a ‘loss leader’ item from those who want to control us.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 4:47 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

If we/people were adult enough to use it professional as a tool, its ok. But the majority are not.
They are like small children crying for a leader, an adult to tell them what to do.
Otherwise we wouldnt have this stupidity/sheeple problem.

Luís
Luís
Nov 11, 2024 8:18 PM

There’s no “deep state”, no “shadow government” or anything like that.
What exists is international jewry and its bankers which controls governments in the west and east. Politics, elections and even geopolitics are all theatre for public consumption to keep people distracted from knowing how the system really works.
Many relevant people have warned for this historical reality.

NickM
NickM
Nov 12, 2024 6:30 AM
Reply to  Luís

< International Jewry and its bankers which controls governments in the west and east >

In the West for sure. But not in the East; look at the Axis of Resistance: Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Russia and China.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 10:39 PM
Reply to  NickM

Plenty of strange theories about the running of China though.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 12, 2024 10:37 PM
Reply to  Luís

[Deep Schlomo enters the chat..]

suzaloop
suzaloop
Nov 11, 2024 8:14 PM

question why is the edit button not being fixed>?
how come its still broken.? after all this time..?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 12, 2024 5:14 AM
Reply to  suzaloop

Because the system has been broken since Adam and Eve. Nothing has really been functioning since then, and nobody really care.
Organised chaos and deliberate stressing is the new world order.

suzaloop
suzaloop
Nov 11, 2024 8:12 PM

We have just witnessed the anti vaccine heroes who stood there ground in less than 730 days forget what the went through to then endorse the same governmental oligarchy
who sold and injected your family friends and muzzled you up and told you not to kill grannie and helped distort your children’s future.

judith
judith
Nov 12, 2024 12:04 PM
Reply to  suzaloop

THANK YOU.

The disconnect is astonishing.

Karl Skellenger
Karl Skellenger
Nov 12, 2024 6:30 PM
Reply to  suzaloop

I will go to my grave before I get another vaccine of any sort. Maybe that’s a pathetic sort of response to a bunch of tanks rolling down the street. But you tell me what the fuck I’m supposed to do that’s gonna make a difference besides ranting and raving about how wrong everybody is where is the fucking solution?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 4:53 PM

Me too.
An earth where the most superior specie is horny needle injected stupid zombies who wants to force others to do be the same is not worth living in.

les online
les online
Nov 11, 2024 8:00 PM

“One can always get a few more sales by re-packaging one’s product.” … (anon) …

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 11, 2024 5:19 PM

The Things That Won’t Change

#1. There won’t be any meaningful analysis at OffG.

Ever felt like you’re stuck in Groundhog Day?

judith
judith
Nov 12, 2024 12:08 PM

I would attribute Groundhog Day to the reality of what the Whitehead article describes.

That, for me, is Groundhog Day.

I never would have realized that if it were not for reading Offguardian, among other independent sites and substacks, for the past 4 years.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 12, 2024 8:50 PM
Reply to  judith

And maybe in 2040 you’ll be on a forum being told by somebody who’s not long “woken up” how their go-to sources are the bee’s knees. Groundhog Day!

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 14, 2024 9:37 AM

Yea, kinda, to both your comments right here. 😔🎯👍

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 11, 2024 5:11 PM

I can suspend my disbelief just enough to vote, but not enough to write to my MP or sign petitions any more.

These days telling your representatives what you want is like going to confession. Your ‘dirty’ secret will put you on a watchlist.

Jack
Jack
Nov 11, 2024 8:48 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

I’ve been saying that for ages and fellow free thinkers just chortled. ‘Here’s a petition to tell us your inner most anti-government thoughts and leave your contact details. Thank you, we’ll be in touch.’

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 13, 2024 6:51 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

Writing to the MP – and getting the diplomatic reply drafted by staff you pay for – is almost as good as voting.

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 11, 2024 3:51 PM
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 13, 2024 4:57 PM
Reply to  thejackalsmark

Got a better one. “She blinded me with Science”…..real science folks! https://youtu.be/V83JR2IoI8k

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 11, 2024 3:49 PM

Actually the Deep State lost. Trump represents more relative power to a president and less to the Deep State. The following 2 concepts are at odds. You cannot have both simultaneously. It’s one or the other:

– A ‘Deep State’ where it makes no difference who’s in power. The Deep State always calling the shots
and/or
– A President who has all the power and does what he likes on a whim

Trump leans more towards the second category, which is why Trump can praise leaders from enemy nations (such as Putin, Erdogan, Xi etc) for being ‘strong’ and can campaign on ‘draining the swamp’ (aka ‘Deep State’).

Obviously Trump can’t be an all out Julius Caesar or Coriolanus or he’d soon meet his Brutus or Aufidius (and nearly did). But he can certainly set a trend in that direction. And currently has a strong mandate/majority.

Which is why alt-media aficionados should consider carefully any parallel opposition to all Deep States under the sun.

Be careful what you wish for. Or you may end up with a dictator for which you didn’t  🤔 

Rob
Rob
Nov 11, 2024 4:03 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

You mean operation warp speed Trump who until April 2024 still promoted the shots as good?
GTFO.
If anything he is the face of the deep state backpedaling in order to regain trust.
FDR did the new deal to prevent people from looking at the real cause of the shitty economy….. Hopefully Trump gets told to finally give something to the working class instead of the fucked up upwards bailout cares act shit

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Nov 11, 2024 6:55 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

The thing is, I desperately, desperately want you to be correct.

Maybe things have changed from last time, in which case I will be cock-a-hoop.

On verra !!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 11, 2024 8:01 PM

I find it helpful to consider each party’s vested interest.

Then any “eternal Deep State dystopia” takes on a new context. ’nuff said

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 11, 2024 7:22 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

From the start, the Trump administration has been a military operation. By definition, it is “deep state”. The key difference, however, is that it is a different faction of deep state to that of the Globalists. And rather than “draining the swamp”, the Trump operation did deals and took control!

One of the key examples of this “taking control” was the envelope scene at Bush’s funeral. However, contrary to the following analysis by Bet-David, the scene was entirely staged. That is, it was all agreed beforehand; the “reactions” were acted; hence some of the reactions are too fast and over the top.

“The White Envelope” – Jim Jordan QUESTIONS Clinton, Obama & Bush At Funeral
Valuetainment
Oct 31, 2024
Patrick Bet-David and Congressman Jim Jordan analyze the infamous “envelope moment” at George H.W. Bush’s funeral. Speculations swirl as they question its contents and the power dynamics it symbolizes

judith
judith
Nov 12, 2024 12:11 PM

I would posit that every administration since and including 1963 has been a military operation.

The CDC is a military operation. Hence, Surgeoun General.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 12, 2024 10:56 PM
Reply to  judith

Trump was selected by a faction of the US military to serve a specific role. That role is to counter the agenda of the Globalists; the agenda being the effective destruction of the US. The Globalists are too entrenched to be defeated, but the agenda has now been severely disrupted.

In addition to selecting Trump, the military operation included:
A) Blocking key elements of the Dem’s election rigging in 2016 – probably through the use of NSA backdoors.
B) Allowing the 2020 steal to proceed while monitoring the involvement of hostile foreign powers (i.e. UK military intelligence). This triggered Continuity of Government and turned all conspirators into unlawful enemy combatants. Among other things, the COG operation included the lockdown of DC with 20K National Guard.
C) Presenting a charade of an election in 2024 such that there can be a “smooth transition to a second Trump administration”.

Jack
Jack
Nov 11, 2024 8:51 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Not really. They were priming everyone with those two farcical “assassination attempts”, Trump will be assassinated and actually killed (probably not really but they’ll make it look like he has). Cue chaos in America. Cue his vice president stepping up. Hello technocracy.

Karl Skellenger
Karl Skellenger
Nov 12, 2024 7:06 PM
Reply to  Jack

Search ole Demmegard in your podcast app, if you need more convincing that the assassination attempts were staged. I made a lot of astrological predictions in this election cycle all of which were accurate minus a couple details. My work shows trouble for Trump in the first week of March 2025, so I agree that he will likely be gone or disabled by that time. I predicted a Trump win in May and repeatedly backed it up with my work. I predicted the day that it would become clear that Biden would step down. That was the day that it was reported he got Covid. four days later he announced he would step aside. I predicted Kamala would be the nominee and that there would be no selection process for Biden‘s replacement. I predicted Trump would beat her in the general election, I demonstrated that Vance was going to be a good pick before his vice presidential debate. I also predicted that the first debate with Biden would go down in history as a world changing event. I don’t know of anyone who made that prediction inside or outside of the astrological community. Election day was an incredibly pathetic day for astrologers around the world who let their leftist leanings cloud their judgment and made it impossible for them to imagine a Trump win, showing that their astrological techniques were basically worthless https://open.substack.com/pub/karlskellenger/p/walz-vs-vance-october-1st-in-the?r=fjmlo&utm_medium=ios

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Nov 12, 2024 8:45 PM

I don’t look at most astrologers work anymore.

Their judgement is clouded by their politics. In fact, I would go so far as to say that they are establishment tools, whether they know it or not. So many of them took the cull juice and were talking about the scamdemic as if it were a real pandemic. That was the final straw for me, since they were incapable of reading that situation through planetary alignments or even simple intuition then the work is questionable.

Though I have stated I don’t want to waste more time and energy on the Orange Man at this stage, I couldn’t help but notice your comment about him facing trouble in March 2025. Can you see anything through your work that would suggest that he would be ‘assassinated’ or a second ‘failed’ attempt occur?

The reason I ask is that a second attempt would also be scripted and fake like the first and would fit with some ideas that I have as to how the scriptwriters would use this going forward. On the basis that the controllers use astrological alignments to time events to help achieve their desired outcomes, I am looking for clues.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Nov 12, 2024 8:42 PM
Reply to  Jack

There is apparently some plot to get biden to step down and kamala to be POTUS. There’s a plot as well to make trump ineligible to be POTUS as a result of that unarmed insurrection using the 14th amendment. We’ll see how true that is but I would not be shocked if it happens. Will that just be theater or will something ugly come out of that. Are they really that threatened by trump? Who knows. I guess we will see.

Howard
Howard
Nov 11, 2024 3:45 PM

This article, I believe, presents the mistaken notion that under other conditions – better conditions, ideal conditions – change, real change, could ensue. It simply cannot – because of human nature. Human psychology is hopelessly trapped in an endless attraction to hierarchy, which makes authority and leadership inevitable, which in turn inevitably breeds power (i.e.,corruption).

Corruption is simply hierarchy in action. There can be no hierarchy without corruption – i.e., without some seeking a greater place among the rest, with the greater rewards power confers. There can be no such thing as an ideal human condition resting on a pedestal of hierarchy/power/corruption.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Nov 11, 2024 10:02 PM
Reply to  Howard

In the absence of hierarchy, the most savage people will start creating one. You can witness this in action by visiting a gore website.

South America somehow manages to be the worst in the whole world in this respect. You need to fix that border right now.

NickM
NickM
Nov 12, 2024 6:45 AM
Reply to  Howard

True, we humans are herd animals genetically conditioned by evolution to go with the pack and follow the Leader. But as Kropotkin observed in his Siberian reindeer, the Leader has responsibilities: he must know where to lead the herd to find fresh pasture when the Siberian ice freezes over; with a bad Leader the herd may perish.

“The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not starve,
He leadeth me into green pastures,
His rod and His staff protect and comfort me” — Psalm 23

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 14, 2024 9:43 AM
Reply to  Howard
Rob
Rob
Nov 11, 2024 3:30 PM

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

turesankara
turesankara
Nov 11, 2024 8:25 PM
Reply to  Rob

GORE VIDAL:
“Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates. The genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the people from ever questioning the inequity of a system where most people drudge along, paying heavy taxes for which they get nothing in return. Every four years the naive half who vote are encouraged to believe that if we can elect a really nice man or woman President everything will be all right. But it won’t be. It makes no difference who you vote for — the two parties are really one party representing four percent of the people.”

Same shyt. Different day.

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Nov 11, 2024 3:27 PM

Yes, I concur. Readers may find my latest article illuminating and relevant to this subject matter:

Trump Timeline Receipts

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 11, 2024 8:17 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Thanks Nicholas. An excellent article with some impressive research. In my opinion Trump is more of a con man than a saviour.

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 11, 2024 8:21 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Thanks Nicholas. An excellent article with some impressive research. In my opinion Trump is more of a con man than a saviour.

He may throw out a few crumbs to his acolytes to keep them entranced, but his main agenda will mostly be set by his boss, Mr. Netanyhu and the New World Order will stagger (or swagger) on.