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To My Fellow Jews, As They Invert Reality Each Time an Israeli Is Released from Gaza

Michael Lesher

Dear fellow religiously-observant Jews, I have a request to make of all of you.

Please, please – in the name of minimal decency – spare me another round of weepy propaganda over the release of some Israeli captives formerly held by inmates of the concentration camp you helped to create in Gaza.

I cannot bear your misplaced sentimentality over the freed Israelis – many of whom actually wore their IDF uniforms as they left behind the ruins of what used to be Khan Younis – any more than I can tolerate your hypocrisy about the Israeli genocide you have applauded for over a year.

And before you launch into a self-righteous tirade about “terrorism” and sputter “Hamas” into my face, let me assure you that I am not asking you to conduct yourselves like conscientious human beings. After watching your behavior over the last 15 months, I know that this would be too much to expect of all but a handful of “religious” Jews.

No, I am only asking you to begin to call things by their right names. Can you at least do that much – before making another sanctimonious speech? Before posting another self-pitying comment on Facebook about “our hostages”?

Because here’s the thing: Israeli soldiers captured during a military operation – one launched, please remember, by the victims of Israel’s brutal, decades-long occupation and the criminal blockade that has crippled Gaza since 2007 – are not “hostages.” They are captured soldiers who (in my view) are lucky not to have been put on trial for complicity in crimes against humanity.

Do you want to talk about real hostages? Then consider the thousands of Palestinian civilians (including scores of children) rounded up in the Occupied Territories and held under appalling conditions in various Israeli dungeons for their use as “bargaining chips” in negotiation with Gaza’s leadership.

Those are hostages, though never described as such in Israeli or Western media – or by you.

You’re guilty of the same sort of name-reversal every time you use the word “terrorist.” Inmates of the Gaza concentration camp who try to defend themselves against attack are not “terrorists” – not even when their desperate methods include the use of deadly force against their tormentors.

Meanwhile, real terrorists aren’t hard to find. Israeli Jews who don the uniform of a vicious apartheid militia that has confined, tortured and massacred Palestinians for decades – especially in Gaza – fully deserve that name. If anyone still questioned this before October 7, 2023, the IDF’s savagery against Gaza’s civilians since then has surely removed all doubt. Yet you never apply the word “terrorist” where it clearly belongs.

And what about the right name for the systematic destruction of Gaza?

Well, the correct word is not “war.” A war involves battles, clashes between opposed armed forces, the capture or loss of military targets. What Israel is doing to Gaza is not a “war.” It is a genocide. In little more than a year, Israeli bombs and artillery have laid waste entire cities and destroyed (according to U.N. estimates) close to two-thirds of the Strip’s civilian infrastructure, not to mention wiping out at least nearly 50,000 human beings, including more than 14,000 children. Any description of the slaughter that fails to mention such basic facts is not merely wrong; it is a sinister lie.

You, my Orthodox coreligionists, have indulged in a particularly hypocritical exercise in misnaming.

Lately you’ve been agog over a claim that newly-released Israeli soldier Agam Berger insisted on kosher food throughout her captivity. Frankly, I don’t know whether this is true (why believe a story backed only by a hearsay account from another IDF functionary?) – but I do know that the spectacle of “religious” Jews exulting over a ritual detail, while ignoring the decision of the Jew in question  to join a brutal terrorist militia in the first place, shows that you have no idea what your religion is. (Have you reread Isaiah 1:13-17 lately? Or Amos 5:21-24? Both passages are part of our liturgy, and both denounce the elevation of ritual over ethics.) As if to underscore your collective hypocrisy, Berger’s own public statement after her release from Gaza was a paean to the army that has massacred tens of thousands of Gaza’s inhabitants and is poised to resume the slaughter once Israel’s neo-Nazi government gives the signal.

You call that an example of “faith”? Call it what it is: either self-delusion or bloodthirsty fanaticism, or (perhaps) a bit of both.

And please, please do not tell me that you want “peace.” In your mouths, that word is yet another inversion of reality. Where was your interest in “peace” when Israel massacred thousands of Gaza’s civilians during its periodic “operations”: Cast Lead in 2008-2009; Pillar of Defense in 2012; Protective Edge in 2014? Or when Israel mowed down unarmed demonstrators during the Great March of Return less than six years ago, specifically targeting children, journalists and disabled protestors for assassination?

Why didn’t you complain when Israel’s army killed Israeli civilians between October 7 and 9, 2023, or when it went on to annihilate dozens of Israeli captives inside Gaza in the course of its vicious bombardment of the entire Strip in the months that followed?

Why do you condemn Hamas for holding Israeli prisoners, but never object to the torture of thousands of Palestinian detainees who haven’t been charged with a crime – not even a “crime” under Israel’s apartheid occupation law?

In short, when you speak of “peace,” what you mean is the perpetuation of Israel’s brutal apartheid regime unopposed by any Palestinian resistance. The proper name for that isn’t “peace”; it is “a crime against humanity.”

“But what harm does it do to celebrate the return of Israeli captives to their families?” someone may ask me. Plenty, in my opinion – if that “celebration” deflects attention from the basic facts of Israel’s genocidal campaign, confusing fact with fantasy and converting oppressors into victims.

As I write, “Jewish” gangsters are taking advantage of the pause in the Gaza genocide to run riot in the West Bank, and Israel’s criminal prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is broadly hinting that the mass murder in Gaza is about to intensify.

This is not the time to be whining in hypocritical self-pity, or squealing like delighted toddlers as a bloodstained international fugitive (Netanyahu) and a predatory, half-deranged convicted felon (Trump) dangle yet another lie in front of you: the bloody ruins of Gaza as a real estate bonanza for anyone willing to drive out its survivors and obliterate whatever is left of the Genocide Convention.

No – this is the time to start calling things what they really are.

If you won’t do even that – and soon – please don’t be shocked when other people begin to call you by the names your conduct has earned. I’m sure you won’t like those names – but why should anyone care, when you’ve already proved that using the right names for things means nothing to you?

Michael Lesher is an author, poet and lawyer whose legal work is mostly dedicated to issues connected with domestic abuse and child sexual abuse. His latest nonfiction book is Sexual Abuse, Shonda and Concealment in Orthodox Jewish Communities (McFarland & Co., 2014); his first collection of poetry, Surfaces, was published by The High Window in 2019. A memoir of his discovery of Orthodox Judaism as an adult – Turning Back: The Personal Journey of a “Born-Again” Jew – was published in September 2020 by Lincoln Square Books.

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Eleanor
Eleanor
Feb 16, 2025 10:20 AM

Thank you Michael Lesher “for calling a spade a spade” unequivocally

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 14, 2025 7:01 AM

Anyone read a single one of these books?

25 Best Books to Understand the Israel-Palestine Conflict
https://www.readingandthinking.com/2021/06/best-books-to-understand-the-israel-palestine-conflict.html

If so, you’re probably the exception

antonym
antonym
Feb 14, 2025 2:14 AM

Qatar, wolf in sheep’s cloths, buying Western woke media.

Duncan Wearing
Duncan Wearing
Feb 12, 2025 2:27 PM

I believe the entire “event” of October 7th was staged. Fake. No hostages, no Hannibal Directive.

Lynn Ertell
Lynn Ertell
Feb 16, 2025 3:02 PM
Reply to  Duncan Wearing

Spot on! A total military media psyop. Probably run by USA CentCom which is headquartered in Qatar where “Hamas” also maintains their “headquarters”. The IDF and Mossad run these “Palestinian” orgs as false flag psyops. But WHY don’t Arab nations (or Muslims in general) call out ‘Hamas” as a controlled Israeli psyop? Because they’re IN ON IT too. For the money.

flirt
flirt
Feb 11, 2025 10:13 PM

What if the Gaza Israeli thing was all fake.?
has anyone in this comment board actually visited Gaza .?
Israeli banned reporters,like the Ukraine thing I have not found any videos really showing anything.
yet my polish work colleagues swear it is happening as they got friends near there.

after covid you must question any media outlet and what they show you.
yet my work colleagues swear to me millions and millions dead during covid and it was a serious pandemic and it was the worse than the flu.



Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 12, 2025 2:55 AM
Reply to  flirt

TRT and Al Jazeera have reported extensively and shown the facts, how dare you babble out this deranged nonsense

antonym
antonym
Feb 14, 2025 11:34 AM
Reply to  flirt

Well that conflict is quite real, but “Palestinian refugees” is indeed a 90% fake narrative. These were Egyptian Arab Muslims imports to try to block Jews from returning to Judea / Jerusalem. In 1946 these Egyptian immigrants got UN officiated as the only lifetime, generation jumping paid refugees on the globe. No more need to work, just hold your hand up; more kids is more payments. That’s why they had plenty cash leftover for tunnels, rockets, Qatar apartments etc.

Soliman
Soliman
Feb 25, 2025 4:27 PM
Reply to  antonym

Your trying to invoke the long debunked Joan Peters theory. Nice try.

antonym
antonym
Feb 14, 2025 11:35 AM
Reply to  flirt

Pending, I politely his a OmG nerve, a woke Dogma.

mersay
mersay
Feb 11, 2025 9:53 PM

I feel articles like this trigger the inner antisemitic tendencies people all suffer with who are into this type of alt media.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 12, 2025 2:56 AM
Reply to  mersay

No it doesn’t – it triggers are revulsion at cowards dropping 2000 lb bombs on babies in tents.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Feb 12, 2025 12:57 PM
Reply to  mersay

Define the word ‘semitic.’

Carlyle Moulton
Carlyle Moulton
Feb 13, 2025 1:38 PM
Reply to  Raoullo

Semitic is an adjective derived from the noun Semite. The Semites (plural) are that branch of the species “homo sapiens’ who dwell in the territories at the Eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea. Arabs, Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians are Semites, so surely dropping 900Kg bombs on them should be termed Antisemitism, but NO. The word has effectively been stolen by European Jews. Of course the Jews of the Bible Age were Semites and the theft of the word was not intentional mainly a result of muddled thinking. The European Jews who conquered Palestine are generic European White bigots, not too different from their Christian bigot friends and as long as they are safely thousands of miles away in Palestine Western Christians accept them as honorary Christians or at least “Judeo-Christians”.

The correct terms for Israel and its allies (including Australia, Canada, France, Germany, The UK and The USA) and their attack forces are “State Terror”, “State Terrorist” and “Terror State”.

anonymousse
anonymousse
Feb 15, 2025 4:28 PM
Reply to  mersay

Yeah, it is a special type of bigotry against a special people and as such is worse than bog-standard racism! Everybody knows about Adolf but hardly anyone knows about Leopold II, for example.

entitlement
entitlement
Feb 11, 2025 10:10 AM
entitlement
entitlement
Feb 11, 2025 10:11 AM
Reply to  entitlement

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judith
judith
Feb 11, 2025 12:53 PM
Reply to  entitlement

What if we teach the concept of God without the morality?

Religion (man made) is what gets taught. Not much is mentioned about spirituality.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 6:30 PM
Reply to  judith

Alternatively, we could teach morality without forcing a particular religion on people. But in that case, the question of ‘whose God?’ would become the question of ‘whose morality’. What’s happening right now is that the morality we’re being taught — by the schools, the media, and most of the churches — is a Globalist morality by default: global warming, LGBTXYZ++++, eat the bugs, the White man is the Devil, etc.

flirt
flirt
Feb 11, 2025 10:06 PM
Reply to  judith

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Paul
Paul
Feb 13, 2025 9:43 PM
Reply to  flirt

Great except human beings clearly need instruction on how to be nice. And we’re not just talking ‘nice’ are we? We need to be loving, patient, kind, humble, and much more to really evolve.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 11, 2025 10:21 PM
Reply to  judith

I’d argue for teaching about God without the religion.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 9:31 PM
Reply to  entitlement

It worked and it work. All three comments here show you are confused.
You wouldnt be confused if you had made your proper Bible lessons as kid either in church or in school.

Instead you let the Leftists teach you about group thinking, your father was a violent man, suppressing your mother, to be gay is to be a star, life is about money, my personal Hollywood movie for myself. Me, me, me and me.

We need morality to be human and to be able to function in an civilisation.
A civilisation is for humans who were made in God’s image with a free will.

A society without morality is for animals. People who dont believe in (a) God claim they developed from an ape, and act accordingly like an more advanced animal. A predator, a crowd animal, meat eater, carnivore, vegetarian animal.

I can give plenty of examples that proves God existence, and prove too that many of the most intelligent scientist in the world (Kierkegaard, Einstein as examples) all end up with the same conclusions that the Bible has, without being religious nor even have read the Bible.

So for your own sake and comfort, you should enjoy all the Bible lessons you can get and let these lesson make you think.
To grow little by little to an responsible adult, who dont need to smear and down things you dont understand, things which are greater than yourself.

flirt
flirt
Feb 11, 2025 10:16 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

 💤 

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 10:54 PM
Reply to  flirt

Thats precisely why the world will never be a better place. The sheeple will forever sleep and never wake up!

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Feb 12, 2025 11:38 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Wrong!

I was raised in a pretty hardcore catholic household. By the time I was 16 we were shunned by the church (while in the same breath begging me to be the alter server every Sunday) due to the fact our mother divorced our abusive father and kept us safe away from him.

This was our wake up call that religion (organized) is man made and was invented as a tool for tyrants to control populations. This tool (religion) can be traced back as far as 10,000 years ago (see the shamans of Tepe). The priest were self anointing themselves as messengers of God and they told their gullible servants if they didn’t farm for “the church” God would smite thee.

Just because you believe in a cult doesn’t mean everyone else that doesn’t follow the cult is immoral or a sheep.

As a wise man said god loves you but he needs lots of money!

Paul
Paul
Feb 13, 2025 9:45 PM

Yeah the problem is Catholicism mate, not following Christ.

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Feb 14, 2025 11:58 PM
Reply to  Paul

BS where do you think it comes from? I’m talking about organized religion! They all do this. Its a cult. Scriptures were written by a man that self annoyed themselves as messenger of God.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 13, 2025 11:50 PM

I agree with you that organised religion is man made and a tool for tyrants.

I am on the personal level not connected to any organisation, but directly to cosmos say God or whatever you like.
I use the church, any church, as a place where you can get at least knowledge about the scriptures but that you have to check the said out with your inner self.
But this dilemma with the Devil occupying and manipulating the church is also precisely described in the scriptures.
It is the same ying and yang, good and evil, black and white, God and Devil concept you meet everywhere.
So, the Devil persuaded you to think everything connected to God is tyranny, and it is God who needs a lot of money. You see?

Again, you see your own sentence doesnt make sense. Should God who created the sun, moon, planets, m.m. need a lots of money? Off course not.
Who needs a lots of money and rejection of God? The Devil! The Devil envied God and wish to take over the Creation claiming he could do better.

You see now how my little analysis make sense yes, and yours not. All the best!

brianborou
brianborou
Feb 14, 2025 10:24 PM
Reply to  entitlement

Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

entitlement
entitlement
Feb 11, 2025 10:07 AM

Can someone explain……………..

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SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 6:32 PM
Reply to  entitlement

Funny. He doesn’t look very White — or Jewish, for that matter.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 9:42 PM
Reply to  entitlement

Always at your service. Again you find the duly answer, not in any media, but in the Bible:

The Bible talk about the false Doos and the true Doos, KISS Keep It Simple Stupid!

The false Doos are the Khazar doos, Zionist doos, Pharisee doos, and many other variations of the false doos.
The true Doos are those who fear God and keep his 10 Commandments, and their descendants in faith.

See how this explanation and definition is cut clear, and far from this diffusion, confusion, chaos bs, you refer to from the false doos.

Plus, wait and see how angry the false doos now will get because Papa here explained the true situation and case.
This reaction and why, is also clearly explained in the Bible by The Morning Star!.

Marb
Marb
Feb 11, 2025 8:05 AM

Compilations of Rabbi’s not so kind Words about Gentiles… By Saltwater_amalekite………https://www.bitchute.com/video/oPgIyElvcI6l

Prle
Prle
Feb 11, 2025 12:49 AM

“The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew, and the Israelis made me ashamed to be a Jew.”
Dr Israel Shahak (holocaust survivor).

Marb
Marb
Feb 11, 2025 2:39 AM
Reply to  Prle
Marb
Marb
Feb 11, 2025 3:04 AM
Reply to  Prle

A Great book by Israel shahak, published by Pluto press ( still available in print i think) …….,” Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel 2004….. https://annas-archive.org/md5/99c2ffab9b78245e43eaaa6171b23f8a

Marb
Marb
Feb 11, 2025 5:04 AM
Reply to  Prle

A few recommendations of books and articles by the much villified and Smeared Israel Shahak is he Verboten here ?

Marb
Marb
Feb 11, 2025 5:04 AM
Reply to  Marb

Pending!

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 10:29 PM
Reply to  Marb

I think your ok links just confirm what everybody more or less know, the bias and you could call it racism against people outside the Dooish tribe.

But Obama also revealed this racist attitude that Americans presents a special race who are exceptional, and everybody else would be inferior and erased from the surface if they caused too much trouble.

So a sad case this kind of racism still exist. But!
I were travelling in South America in the early 2000’es, recalling the fascist regimes and torture stories from the 1950-60’es and what I saw during these years of travel were, that the UN 10 Human Rights were hanging in Police Stations and “Policia Militaire” camps openly so everybody could read them.

Meaning the bad situation with torture chambers were improved considerably.
by Western example and pressure.
Latin America wanted to copy our more human attitude in these Universal Rights.

Lesson learned: It is possible to move somebody and something.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 11, 2025 12:35 AM

Too late!

I’m fully aware that there are orthodox/religious Jews and atheist Jews who are appalled by the Israeli genocide that has and is taking place. I’m also aware that before this latest assault on Palestinians, that there were always groups on both sides of the Israel/Palestine divide who wanted true peace and who were engaged in cross-cultural activities, such as forming choirs and other cultural exchanges. Moreover, the New York City protests against this genocide saw many Jews join in. Kudos and respect to all of these Jews for expressing their sentiment that this was not done in their name. (What government ever does anything in their people’s name?).

However, whatever those whining, self-declared Jewish victims who participated and supported not only this latest genocide but also the original Nakba and all the sniping and bombing of Palestinians in their prison corrals could ever say now will surely fall of deaf ears. It’s simply too late.

Similar to what we’ve seen over the past five years of the Covid war against humanity, there will be no apology, no retribution, let alone justice; we will see none of the perpetrators, enablers and propagandists prosecuted and go to prison. There’s not even any real compensation or restitution to the victims of the Covid war, nor will there be any such remedy for the Palestinians. The paradise now planned for Gaza by Trump, the Zio-Jew stooge, will be for the perpetrators and the obscenely wealthy of the world. The Palestinians are being told to get lost.

I’m more hopeless that justice might prevail every day.

Whatever
Whatever
Feb 11, 2025 6:09 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Unfortunately, I largely agree with your sentiments. History shows us that the idea of justice rarely prevails. True monsters, of all stripes and colors, are protected from prosecution and public scorn by wealth, family privilege, control of societal institutions, and of course, the ignorance and culpability of the masses. I found this quote a few years ago which sums things up neatly. “If there’s one thing that exceeds the greed of plutocrats, it’s the astounding vulgarity of the masses. The former thrives parasitically of the latter.” – author unknown.   

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 12, 2025 7:05 AM
Reply to  Whatever

History shows us that the idea of justice rarely prevails.
History is almost entirely sanitised, where it is not concocted.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 6:52 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

As I started saying during the Covid-hoax: we are all Palestinians now. 😥

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 8:55 PM

Should someone give themselves 50 up-votes for every down-voted comment. Or just let the eternal antisemites have their way? Certainly a moral dilemma

Maybe just let the antisemites increase in number. Arguably better. Let sins increase unto their full measure.

Until, of course, that Final Reckoning inevitably arrives to disrupt everything the US identity-less atheistic diaspora thought was rock solid … and then what?

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 10, 2025 10:05 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

I’m starting to wonder if there is any genuine antisemitism left anymore as opposed to the smear campaigns and phony provocative crap shoved down our throats by Zionists.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 10:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

A fair question. That alt-media’s universal anti-Zionist bias might simply all along have been a secret Zionist ploy in disguise. Creating that excessive anti-Israel over-emphasis that would inevitably be overturned by its inevitable opposite.

Would make Agatha Christie turn in her grave at the plot twist

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 11, 2025 7:01 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Your compulsive evasions are now dissolving into screaming gibberish.

Soliman
Soliman
Feb 25, 2025 4:35 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

“That alt-media’s universal anti-Zionist bias”

And what of the corporate medias pro-Zionist bias ? How come one bias is cool, but not the other ? How come one bias you claim as antisemitic, but nothing about the other one being anti-Palestinian ?

Donnie
Donnie
Feb 11, 2025 11:07 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

do you use AI to write your comments? A lot of words and no substance.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 11, 2025 1:34 PM
Reply to  Donnie

I appreciate your feedback and the opportunity to clarify my position. While I understand that the nature of my responses may sometimes appear verbose, I assure you that my intention is to provide a thorough and nuanced exploration of the topics at hand. The assertion that I rely on artificial intelligence to craft my comments is not only unfounded but also dismissive of the genuine effort and thought that I invest in articulating my perspectives.

In a world where brevity often reigns supreme, it is essential to recognize that complexity and depth can sometimes necessitate a more elaborate discourse. The richness of language can convey subtleties that mere succinctness might overlook. Therefore, rather than viewing my wordiness as a lack of substance, I invite you to consider it a deliberate choice aimed at fostering a deeper understanding of the issues being discussed.

Ultimately, the dialogue we engage in benefits from diverse approaches—some may favor concise statements, while others, like myself, may find value in a more expansive exposition. It is this variety that enriches our conversations and broadens our horizons. Thank you for your thoughts, and I hope this response sheds light on my perspective.

Howard
Howard
Feb 11, 2025 3:45 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Actually, your statement sheds light on your mode of expression – not on your perspective. Zionism is a hard sell to those who see its tenets in action. Perhaps it’s one of those things that looks good on paper (though I’m not sure even of that).

The very fact that Palestine was targeted for mass migration of European Jews long before the Nazi Holocaust suggests a more Machiavellian purpose behind this migration. Perhaps (and it’s only speculation on my part) the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire was foreseen even before WW1; and seen as well that Palestine would become British territory. And it was determined to set a cadre of Europeans right in the middle of the oil rich Middle East. And of course as the Arab nations were moving away from British control it would have become even more imperative to get non-Arabs into the area.

What I’m suggesting is that Zionism was from its beginning a movement for British control rather than for a Jewish homeland.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 11, 2025 9:07 PM
Reply to  Howard

My response (admittedly) was an AI response to an ad-hominem-mentally– restricted poster (but please don’t tell)…

You would seem to have bought in to the everything-was-always-preplanned-by-nefarious-elites narrative?

More seriously, ‘Zionism’ is an age-old concept. Why complicate it? It’s simply the dream of an exiled people rooting for their homeland. No more, no less. The Books of Jeremiah and Lamentations giving sufficient accounts of such a process.

Maybe give them a try? Old age is no barrier.

Boney M. – Rivers Of Babylon

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 12, 2025 6:52 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

“simply the dream of an exiled people rooting for their homeland.”

And destroying vast swathes of those already there.

By the same token, native Americans can genocide all the whites in the US.

Soliman
Soliman
Feb 25, 2025 4:42 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

“More seriously, ‘Zionism’ is an age-old concept. Why complicate it? It’s simply the dream of an exiled people rooting for their homeland. No more, no less. The Books of Jeremiah and Lamentations giving sufficient accounts of such a process”

Spiritual Zionism, yes. But most here are probably talking about political Zionism, which came much later on, and caused a lot of controversy amongst European Jews.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 11, 2025 8:29 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

I see that the opportunity to clarify your position was missed.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 11, 2025 9:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

cf post to Howard above…

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 12, 2025 6:49 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

“an AI response to an ad-hominem-mentally– restricted poster”

Irony explosion!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 12, 2025 11:42 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Such is the privilege of humans  😉 

mersay
mersay
Feb 11, 2025 9:50 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

why the downvotes?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 12, 2025 11:46 AM
Reply to  mersay

Actually I used to get far more downvotes for saying anything remotely pro-Israel, or in favour of the consideration of both sides of the conflict. A regular 60 at least. The downvoters would seem to be slacking. A paltry 10 downvotes thus far

Soliman
Soliman
Feb 25, 2025 4:34 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

“Or just let the eternal antisemites have their way?”

Or better yet, if your going to throw around hefty accusations, you should really put together a solid case to back up your case. Otherwise, perhaps come up with a different argument.

entitlement
entitlement
Feb 10, 2025 8:15 PM

Surprised the article made it though pending.

NorgeMan
NorgeMan
Feb 10, 2025 8:50 PM
Reply to  entitlement

I agree. IsraHell despises the 1st Amendment.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 9:38 PM
Reply to  entitlement

It believe it did require a special pass from the universally antisemitic Alt-Media. Well spotted

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 12, 2025 1:22 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

An “antisemitic” article needs a “special pass from the universally antisemitic Alt-Media”? Can you hear yourself?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 12, 2025 2:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

In the good ole days, such a thought would have been classified as ‘humour’— to use an old-fashioned expression. That ‘slightly barbed’ comment that we know and love.

In more modern times of course, of text-only, take-everything-literally culture and types, it could indeed be open to misinterpretation.

Interpreting text accurately may well be in the eye of the beholder

Columba
Columba
Feb 10, 2025 7:37 PM

Bravo. Brilliantly put.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Feb 10, 2025 5:35 PM

Bravo Sir, I salute you…

pat fahy
pat fahy
Feb 10, 2025 4:48 PM

Thank you Michael Maybe there is hope after all

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 5:39 PM
Reply to  pat fahy

Hope for what. More antisemitism?

The self-hating US diaspora do have their identity issues

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 6:57 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

What in the world is “[t]he self-hating US diaspora“?

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 13, 2025 6:41 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

I thought diaspora was a painkiller.

Howard
Howard
Feb 10, 2025 3:50 PM

This is the finest example of pure conscience I have ever read. Thank you to Michael Lesher for pointing out the terrible danger of hiding both morality and reality behind religious dogma. God did not sanction the genocide of Palestinians – those presuming to speak for God did.

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:24 PM

Inverting the truth, name reversals and accusing others of your crimes are Abrahamic specialities, honed to perfection over millenia since the principles were laid down in the scriptures, books which if published today would be roundly condemned as hate speech.

Nick
Nick
Feb 10, 2025 1:23 PM

Thanks OG for this broadside against Israeli fascism, long overdue IMO. Maybe Michael Lesher could analyse Zionist control over western governments, global media, culture and finance next? Or maybe their central role in 9/11 and the subsequent scapegoating of Islam worldwide? Or the greater Israel project, so reminescent of lebensraum? Preferably without the clichéd leftist slanders his obvious TDS is driving. Calling Trump a ‘predatory, half-deranged convicted felon’ really lowered the tone. See Maajid Nawaz for analysis rather than abuse.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 9:33 PM
Reply to  Nick

“Preferably without the clichéd leftist slanders his obvious TDS is driving. Calling Trump a ‘predatory, half-deranged convicted felon’ really lowered the tone. See Maajid Nawaz for analysis rather than abuse.”

Indeed, I also prefer gentler names, such as “Warp Speed the Father of Lethal Vaccines”, “The Father of All the Papers Necessary for the Implementation of a Full-Fledged Plandemic, which the Democrats used a little later for just that”, “The Father of Stargate”. It sounds somehow more sophisticated and respectful to this dirty, small, orange mischievous, who does not exist by itself, except as a symbol of the “Resistance to the evil leftist agenda”, completely fake, which is easily recognizable, but obviously far from everyone.

judith
judith
Feb 11, 2025 1:06 PM
Reply to  Nick

While I agree about the fascism of the govt of Israeli, I do not think that they, or any other fascistic govt are the only ones who scapegoat.

They scapegoat with full support of the US govt. And media.

They are all in it together.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 7:06 PM
Reply to  judith

But that gets back to the question of who, exactly, controls ‘our’ media.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 7:04 PM
Reply to  Nick

You’re right on all the main points, of course, but Trump really is a Zionist sock-puppet.

flirt
flirt
Feb 11, 2025 10:19 PM
Reply to  Nick

Trump is helping.
Maajid Nawaz is shillin.

Marb
Marb
Feb 12, 2025 2:19 AM
Reply to  flirt

Trump is Helping … Himself

Thomas
Thomas
Feb 10, 2025 1:13 PM

Should probably begin talking about the English genocide. Yes, the ethnic English people are being genocided, what with their history being rewritten, culture disintegrated, societal ties atomized by foreignly invaded instutions, the wholsale destruction of their economy and genocidal rape and torture of their children at foreign hands. We really should begin talking about the genocide of the English people…!

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:31 PM
Reply to  Thomas

That’s the butt end of being a global parasite, sorry!

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 4:44 PM

The first – and continuing – victims of the British Empire were the British people themselves. There was never any White privilege for the working class. We were not the parasites, we were the hosts.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 4:38 PM
Reply to  Thomas

I visited Greenwich Park today. A modern-looking sign about the history of Montague House proudly boasted of a black man who once worked there.

Lower down, they mentioned Montague himself and one of our Queens who lived there for a few years. They were not as important as the negro whose portrait* took pride of place, obviously.

(*The portrait had some strange wording to the effect of “in the style of” so I suspect it is modern artwork and he never had a portrait taken in his lifetime.)

We are being erased. Negrophilia is everywhere, not just on TV. It is inescapable.

Paul
Paul
Feb 13, 2025 9:48 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Hard pressed to see a white couple on telly these days. White woman and black man however…

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 11, 2025 12:41 AM
Reply to  Thomas

It’s Europe-wide.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 11, 2025 7:07 PM
Reply to  Thomas

And the Whites in S. Africa.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 11:45 AM

3 emaciated Israelis exchanged for 183 Palestinians. Who got the better deal?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/08/middleeast/hostages-release-fifth-round-israel-hamas-ceasefire-intl-hnk/index.html

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 10, 2025 1:30 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Netanyahu is apoplectic about both the pale frailty and the frail paleness of the returned hostages. Indeed it is arguable whether the pale frailty outdoes the frail paleness or the frail paleness outdoes the pale frailty. Concerned humanitarians agree that both the paleness and the frailty are shocking indictments of evil Islamic emaciated emaciation. It is the most atrocious atrocity since the last atrocious atrocity that the professionally appalled media were appalled about.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 5:48 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It’s actually a good philosophical question when properly considered.

Should all lives always be regarded as having equal value. Which would certainly seem natural to assume. In which case, only a one-to-one exchange rate of hostages should ever have been considered.

Or should other factors be taken into consideration, such as the relative strength of armies. The relative size of populations. The ages, the relative health of the hostages, a hostage’s religious views, or deemed social value. The total number of hostages each side holds. Or broader political issues.

And if an exchange rate of 61-to-1 (as in this case) was too high or too low, then what should it have been? What’s the optimal level for such exchanges. And should the rate be independent of the empathy or military competitiveness of each side. In which case may AI should help determine it.

Not always so simple to answer but worth pondering

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 10, 2025 9:55 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Naturally it’s not simple since we must discuss the statistical analyses and ponder these insoluble moral issues and get all polysyllabic in our deep philosophical yabba dabba doo … meanwhile this noise about hostage exchanges and ceasefire is a degradingly obvious charade to pad out pseudo issues whilst Israel continues implacably with its long planned final solution to the Palestinian problem.

Buy you already know all that.

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Feb 13, 2025 12:42 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Lol, in one sentence you postulate that all lives are equal then in two sentences following you start measuring lives as if they are a thing to be measured.

Your AI bable is broken!

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Feb 13, 2025 12:37 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You win today’s internet best reply!

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 4:49 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Remind me. Who bombed aid convoys then blocked them from crossing the borders?

What happens when there’s no food?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 5:43 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Let them eat fake?

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 12, 2025 7:15 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

Who bombed every potential place where the exalted “hostages” might be held?

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Feb 13, 2025 1:32 AM
Reply to  mgeo

And here’s the kicker for me. This whole thing smells of massive psych ops.

First we have the most impenetrable, technically advanced, most watched border in the world get breached by dudes with lawnmower engines and parachutes strapped to their backs. The footage was so crisp, coriographed, and well produced it made Pedowood’s best directors and producers blush. Well pressed clean uniforms, faces always hidden, and weirdly polite to their hostages.

Don’t get me wrong there was definitely some duped civilian Palestinians that turned to this Israeli backed organization. Join the cause! Probably filled with so much rage from decades of their family being slaughtered and had nothing to lose for just a taste of revenge and justice. The FBI does this same tactic to create the face of “domestic terroism” by finding a dupe in the crowd to carry out a bombing (fake or real bomb). 99.9% of the cases the duped is someone that could never do such a thing without the FBI’s help and nudge. I digress.

They mowed down there own civilians on Oct 7th. They literally have a well known directive to do this. For fucks sakes who would live in a country that you pay thefts to have a law that they will kill you without hesitation just at the hint of a possible “terrorist”. This self afflicted death toll was exploited. The amount of unsubstantiated stories that came out from Western Media was so repetitive and easily debunked. Just this fact alone should have made the least media savvy person suspect that something wasn’t right.

This would be easy to pull off for the MOSSAD (sp). Suddenly this batch of hostage release happens to be of prime militia operative age. Hamas fighters again, displaying themselves in perfectly manicured, pressed apparel, and masked so who knows who they really are. It wouldn’t be much of a stretch to suggest these are actually IDF in costumes pretending to release pretend hostages. They could easily string the public onto whatever narrative they wanted. This is a show.

What is real is the genocidal bombing of a certain ethic population. I do not have a dog in this fight. I’m just telling you how it looks to me.

Mark
Mark
Feb 10, 2025 11:41 AM

Thank you, Michael.  The only antidote to this madness, that I can see, is that we all stop allowing ourselves to be segregated by anything. We must all embrace each other as the brothers and sisters that we are and refuse boxes and pedestals, alike.

RKae
RKae
Feb 10, 2025 9:01 AM

And while we’re using honest language, how ’bout we stop saying “Jews” and instead say “Khazars”?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 13, 2025 11:59 PM
Reply to  RKae

You cant destroy our cover now. The Mainstream Media has made billions of people all over the world believe we are Jews……………………………….LOL.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 8:25 AM

Only two or three antigenocide photos. This is the title photo from the Al Jazeera article “Israel blocks shipment of Russian Sputnik V vaccine to Gaza. Palestinian Authority accuses Israel of stopping 1,000 doses intended for medical workers to blockaded Gaza Strip.”, 16 Feb 2021

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“A woman walks past a mural encouraging the wearing of face masks amid the coronavirus pandemic in the central Gaza Strip”

And from Dci-Palestine’s article “Year-in-review: Violations against Palestinian children unremitting in 2020”, December 31, 2020

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“A Palestinian boy walks past street art showing a COVID-19 coronavirus, in Gaza City on September 22, 2020.”

Well, what’s the matter, just a little plandemic with the promotion of killer vaccination. It’s not like the ISRAELI GENOCIDE!!

The whole thing is garbage, a continuation of the “Ukrainian PROXY WAR of the deep democratic state against Russia fighting the NWO”, which is a continuation of the “coronavirus pandemic”, all of which are steps from the long great reset plan.
(“But the Israeli genocide is real.” Well, yes – this is from the same people who organized and conducted the Great Reset plandemic.The same people who organized the mass vaccination.)

The anti-genocide Jill Stone had even said it bluntly that “resistance to the Israeli genocide is an integral part of the broader struggle for a just, multipolar world.” Go to her website and see her vaccine program, there is also transgender rights, something like 2SLGBTQR (something like that, she hadn’t missed a single letter). And then there’s her, the Winner – President Trump, the Father of the Vaccine. A cool story with a happy ending.

Or, in other words, it is impossible to look at things separately these days. That is, whoever wants can do it, and many do it.

And besides, I understand Lesher very well.

Of all the people myself, one of the ones I like the least are the “Israelis”, inside and outside Israel, so to speak. For various reasons, one of which is that in the long history of my people there have been several enslavements by different empires and there have always been Jews among the imperial power, who somehow always start to get involved with rewriting our history, destroying and slandering our historical memory, cultural heritage. So, somehow, they are all there (some of them, with power and interests, not all).

I mean, it’s not just about “what empires usually do,” but there’s also a long-term “historical challenge to the primacy as to who is a more ancient people” by some high-ranking Jewish special interest circles. I think it is difficult for them to experience some historical realities.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 11:47 AM

The most successful fear campaign in history.

Fear WITHOUT borders.

Nick
Nick
Feb 10, 2025 1:28 PM

mRNA vaccines were a DoD/pharma plot long before Trump. But prove me wrong with evidence rather than parroted slander.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 10:01 PM
Reply to  Nick

Why should I prove you wrong when I agree with you. They were a DoD/pharma plot long before Trump, but only Trump activated them and released them for mass action (fervently encouraging and encouraging and encouraging his conservative flock to “take the vaccine!”, by the way, the clips are still on the Internet).

And now it’s about to “take healthcare to another level”, taking our mortal souls through the gates of Stargate (I guess you like Ellison and Altman very much, what “great people”, as Donald called them, something like that) with mRNA 2.0, crafted in literally 2 days, personally for each soul. We have to admit to the Orange Fat Man that he did a good job, much better than those nasty demonocrats who ruined everything that Donny then “fixed/build back better”… Now that I think about it, is this where the “dog” is hiding?..

He is a nice man, I like him. And he loves Israel very much, “I luuf Israel”

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:33 PM

Yes that’s exactly what “a covid-19 coronavirus” looks like!

This is hopeless… brains have turned to mush from childhood vaccinations and a life of brainwashing.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 9:46 PM

“Yes that’s exactly what “a covid-19 coronavirus” looks like!”

Yes, indeed. That’s why I’m constantly showing these photos to Khristine Massey to finally end this drama with the proper scientific proof of the viruses, but she still seems to have some doubts.

Howard
Howard
Feb 10, 2025 3:56 PM

To equate the covid fiasco with genocide misses a crucial point – namely, that the “pandemic” was applied equally around the world. And even though genocide is also something of an equal opportunity dynamic, it is not being practiced around the world currently, only in selected places (like Palestine and arguably South Sudan).

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 11, 2025 12:49 AM
Reply to  Howard

As has been said elsewhere: “The way of Palestine will be the way of the world.”

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 4:56 PM

All the bad things started when Trump entered office. Corona, 9/11, Gaza, JFK, The 6 million, NWO, you name it.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 7:46 AM

…in continuation of the short walk from my previous comment (if it passes):

Amnesty International, January 6, 2021
“Denying COVID-19 vaccines to Palestinians exposes Israel’s institutionalized discrimination

“While Israel celebrates a record-setting vaccination drive, millions of Palestinians living under Israeli control in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip will receive no vaccine or have to wait much longer – there could hardly be a better illustration of how Israeli lives are valued above Palestinian ones.”
-Saleh Higazi, Deputy Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.”

Democracynow, March 04, 2021
“Vaccine Apartheid: Marc Lamont Hill, Mitchell Plitnick on Israel’s “Indifference to Palestinian Health”

Israel has had the fastest vaccination rollout in the entire world, with 40% of Israelis already fully vaccinated against COVID-19, but Palestinians in the Occupied Territories have received almost no doses — a situation critics call “vaccine apartheid.” By one count, just 34,000 vaccine doses have been administered to Palestinians in the Occupied Territories, which has a population of over 4.5 million. “What we’re seeing right now is a gross injustice,” says Marc Lamont Hill, author and professor of media studies and urban education at Temple University.”

The Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, United Nations – OHCHR, 14 January 2021
“Israel/OPT: UN experts call on Israel to ensure equal access to COVID-19 vaccines for Palestinians

“Israel’s roll-out of its vaccination programme against the COVID-19 pandemic for its citizens has been impressive. In this early stage of the worldwide inoculation programme, Israel has delivered the vaccines to a higher percentage of its citizens than any other country,” the experts said.
..
“However, Israel has not ensured that Palestinians under occupation in the West Bank and Gaza will have any near-future access to the available vaccines. The COVID-19 pandemic has been ravaging the West Bank and Gaza in recent months, and has fractured an already badly under-resourced Palestinian health care system. We are particularly concerned about the deteriorating health situation in Gaza, which suffers from a 13-year-old blockade, serious water and electricity shortages, and endemic poverty and unemployment.”

The UN experts said available information indicates that COVID-19 vaccines – which have been ordered separately by the Palestinian Authority – may not be delivered en masse to the West Bank and Gaza for many weeks.”

The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories – B’Tselem
“May the new year begin with its blessings

Dear friends,

Life with the coronavirus has forced tension and anxiety on us all: financial uncertainty, lockdowns, vaccinations, and for some, even worse . Yet even in these difficult times, Israel’s apartheid and occupation regime continues, unabated, to operate under its basic guiding principle: perpetuating Jewish supremacy.

This principle is starkly evident when it comes to vaccinations. While the campaign to vaccinate Israelis is considered efficient and successful, millions of Palestinians living right next door, under the same regime, remain unvaccinated. The Israeli government has completely abdicated its responsibility for their wellbeing, as though it has nothing to do with them.”

And we get to the hardliners. If you want to read about Israel’s genocide in Gaza, as well as all their atrocities in general, one of the best places to visit is the Electronic Intifada. “‘covid vaccine’ – Search found 378 items”, just a few of them, in one of which we see that even Fauci defended the Great Israeli Salvation of the Palestinians (Shalom, Anthony! The angels of heaven will sing your name and it will be written in golden letters in the Book of Life…):
electronicintifada, 19 February 2021, “Fauci champions Israeli medical apartheid”

And so on news of the horrific inhumane genocidal crime that Israel committed by refusing to provide mass vaccination of Gaza with genocidal vaccines, as well as obstructing the delivery of separately agreed genocidal vaccines by the genocidal anti-genocide Palestinian Authority.
And after vaccines were already available in Gaza, what did the Palestinian people themselves think? Tells us again – Electronic Intifada, among the most prominent voices against Israeli crimes in Gaza, February 17, 2022,
“Why Gaza must be vaccinated”

Vaccines save lives
Israel has depicted itself as one of the world’s most successful countries in organizing a rapid vaccination campaign against COVID. The media in Europe and North America have promoted Israel as a success story, usually omitting the fact that its vaccination campaign did not extend to millions of Palestinians under Israeli occupation.

Such discrimination has meant that Palestinians have been forced to rely on donations of vaccines from various governments.

While the vaccination program has been inadequate, there has also been a marked reluctance among many people in Gaza to get vaccinated.

I conducted a straw poll of 30 people aged between 25 and 50. In total, 24 out of the 30 said that they did not want to be vaccinated.

From speaking with these people, it appeared that many had been influenced by lies and conspiracy theories about vaccines spread on the internet.

It is dreadful that lies can be powerful when the benefits of vaccination are clear. The local health ministry states that 95 percent of the people in Gaza who have died from COVID-19 were not vaccinated.

There is no real doubt that vaccines save lives and help infection rates to decrease.

It is true that my uncle was fully vaccinated and still died from COVID. I nonetheless remain convinced that vaccination is vital.

I have lost a much-loved uncle to COVID-19. I do not want anyone else to suffer in the way that my family has.

All I ask is that people do what they can to end the pandemic. The most important thing is to get vaccinated.”


So, in this regard, let me ask all those who are outraged by Israel’s actions in Gaza, the Genocide, how do you reconcile it with that? How does your conscience combine them?

Why did the Palestinian Authority, which fights and resists Israeli atrocities, including genocide, do this?
“Just a few genocidal vaccines for our population, which we protect from genocide”, “but look at the other, it is the serious one to see – the Israeli genocide, part of which is the obstruction of the genocidal vaccines that we ordered for our population”.

Why is almost everyone who points to Israeli crimes talking about this narrative about covid, covid vaccination and “Israel’s medical apartheid”?

It gets even more interesting:

If vaccines are genocidal, why doesn’t Israel secure their supply to Gaza for mass genocidal vaccination of the population they want to genocidate?
Then, according to the familiar recipe – “it was covid”. And the inhabitants of Gaza are genocided, and Israel has clean hands.

Israel wants to geocede Gaza.
Vaccines are genocidal.
But instead of ensuring their most widespread distribution there, Israel is hindering them.

Why is that?

Does Israel want to genocide the Palestinians in Gaza?
Are vaccines genocidal?

Something is not true, but I don’t know which one.

judith
judith
Feb 10, 2025 12:26 PM

Maybe they’re both true.

Nick
Nick
Feb 10, 2025 1:37 PM

Israelis are deeply mind-controlled and turned into violent bigots by their own fake narratives, probably the most bewitching and consequential in history. See the holohoax for a case in point. It’s the sword and shield of Israeli supremacism and colinialism. So, believing the narrative of ‘safe and effective’ vaccines, then denying them to Palestinians Zionists want to genocide makes perfect sense.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 11, 2025 1:44 AM
Reply to  Nick

…So they – that tortoise Naftali Benat (was he then “in power”?) and the rest of the responsible factors – believed in the story about “safe and effective” vaccines and this is what they did as a result, as you read in the quotes below:

“Israel celebrates a record-setting vaccination drive”, “Israel has had the fastest vaccination rollout in the entire world”, “Israel’s roll-out of its vaccination programme against the COVID-19 pandemic for its citizens has been impressive. In this early stage of the worldwide inoculation programme, Israel has delivered the vaccines to a higher percentage of its citizens than any other country,” the experts said.”

They gave everything and a lot to their own population (all Palestinians working in Israel were also duly vaccinated, along with the rest of the Jews, Arabs and others). “The most successful vax campaign in the world”, there was a meme about Israel – “Pfizerland”, remember? And what happened? Since, most naively, due to a deep habit of mental control, they believed in the narrative of “safe and effective” vaccines, they – the best in the world – gave to israeli citizens, so much injected disability, infertility and death, how have these indicators moved since then there? I really don’t know and I’m interested (if someone knows, let me know, please).

Did they destroy themselves, naively believing the story for the masses? (Maybe even Naftali Benat took it, if he believed it? Is he okay?)

The other thing I’ve read here and there – because, as they say, the Jewish/Zionist elite clans of bankers and so on, control the world, something that I think I won’t be wrong if I assume that you also claim – is that they in Israel, as part of (or the main project of) the global control zio elite, actually knew very well that vaccines are disability and death, and therefore – because, After all, the goal is to kill only the goyim, and the elect to inherit the world, waiting for their Messiah, who is the Christian Antichrist – gave the Jewish part of their population only a placebo.

But then the question arises again: why didn’t they just allow the extensive supply of these vaccines to Gaza and even add more of themselves? They would then be labeled superheroes by the mass media, and even some pro-Palestinian voices would acknowledge Israel’s “noble gesture,” or that they “just did what was right.” The Palestinians who, allegedly, the Israelis (the interested circles among them) want to destroy, would have received a sea of disability, infertility and death, which would have been attributed to “covid that, despite vaccination, brutally mowed down Gaza…”, and the Israeli government would have been a hero for this.

But – no.. Everyone – some of whom were active accomplices in the plandemic and in the highest positions, even the main people of the Zionists themselves (who are said to have conceived and commanded the plandemic from above, as “clearing out the useless goyim”, etc.) – suddenly become somewhat naive when the fitting of the stories about them requires it. And Donald was naive (deepstate-WuHan-flu-Fauci deceived him), and Putin also was naïve, now it became clear that the Israeli government, the most vaccine-effective in the world at the time, was naive. A strange thing.

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:37 PM

You need to bear in mind that most of the worker drones genuinely believe in virology as a genuine science and genuinely believe that vaccines equal “health”. It is only a few ghouls at the top of that food chain who actually know the truth.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 10, 2025 3:50 PM

While I’m skeptical (or openminded) of some aspects of virology, I have never seen a really thorough or convincing argument critiquing the evidence. Demanding ‘isolates’ (that golden nugget of ‘proof’) has always seemed less than satisfactory, a sleight of hand, an attempt to reframe and simplify to the point of becoming divorced from the data and reality. Science rarely works in such a simplistic way, except on tv.

It wouldn’t take Lanka et al much money to fund an independent study into Tobacco Mosaic Virus transmissibility, for instance, and put virological contagion meaningfully to the test. I wish they would. They could crowdfund it. I’d contribute.

I have yet to see a scientifically argued counter hypothesis in order to challenge the orthodoxy. This is how science works.

We ought to be after the truth, and unfortunately many people who question virology end up entrenching themselves unscientifically. A2

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 5:23 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Virology is a beautiful theory. It is elegantly simple. It is intuitive and appealing.

Unfortunately, “intuitive and appealing” are dangerous in science. People don’t apply the scientific method to such theories, they accept them on face value and soon, “everyone knows it’s true.” Consensus! Hurrah!

Virology is deemed so beautiful that it doesn’t need verifying. Indeed we have reached the point that it is presumed in law that vaccines are safe and effective.

While I do still believe in viruses, I also believe that the vast majority of virology science is weak or fraudulent.

I will never take another vaccine. It will be interesting to see if I hold to my convictions if I’m bitten by a rabid animal. That’s the perfect test of one’s belief on the matter.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 10, 2025 7:21 PM
Reply to  Jonathan

Yeah, that’d certainly be the ultimate test of one’s belief I guess 😅 not sure I’d be brave enough. A2

Bonno Ray
Bonno Ray
Feb 11, 2025 3:10 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

http://www.theendofcovid.com provides you with everything you need to know.
Virology is a scam. Virussen have never been proven to exist.
Vaccines are big pharma making profit on weak people. Follow the money.

Columba
Columba
Feb 10, 2025 7:53 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

The burden of proof is on those who make the claim. Virologists have never provided conclusive proof – or any proof for that matter – of their claims. Look at Christine Massey’s FOIA work, amongst many others. Those who show that the claim is falsifiable are NOT obliged to provide an alternative explanation That, as I understand it, is how science is supposed to work.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 10, 2025 9:24 PM
Reply to  Columba

That’s the case only if argued from a sort of quasi-legal perspective. In actual fact this is not how the ‘scientific method’ operates, in which an assumption of truth, a hypothesis, is created to best fit the observable data, and only discarded once it is successfully disproved, or if a more successful hypothesis is generated. It’s inductive reasoning, not deductive reasoning. A2

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 11, 2025 12:57 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

The in-depth research into the failed contagion experiments has been done:
Can you catch a Cold? by Dan Roytas

And, yes, isolation – that is, separating the “virus” from the phlegmy soup taken from an “infected” human, plus the addition of various chemicals and a nutrient-starved mish-mash in the petri dish – is no kind of isolation of something supposedly there. This method is not scientific, but it’s what’s needed to be done for those making the positive claim that the something is actually there.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 11, 2025 2:05 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Veritas, I’m sure virology has lots of problems, and I welcome steps forward in this. I’m just wondering why progress is so slow.

For example, your link is not a scientific experiment putting transmissibility of TMV to the test, which I suggested would be a great place to start. Why aren’t Bailey etc calling for just this sort of experiment? It would be very easy to do. I mean, surely the only way to discount the science is using competing science?

Could it be that they suspect such experiments would yield results that would require explanation (hence virology, or the need for a competing hypothesis)? Or are they just being extremely unimaginative? Which do we think?

I’m sure they could fund such an experiment with some of the proceeds of this book. Or set up a crowdfunding campaign.

Virologists claim that virology is demonstrated in other ways, and further they state that purification as per Koch isn’t possible. Well, surely in order to do due diligence we need to actually deal with this, and look at the evidence that IS presented and discount that? A2

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 11, 2025 5:28 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Contagion:
The competing science – that started out to prove that virus transmission was a thing – has been done; the notion of transmissibility was put to the test. In Can you catch a cold? Dan Roytas cited hundreds of scientific references and gave brief outlines of experiments showing that transmissibility did not happen during those experiments.

Moreover, whether or not pathogenic viruses exist, the evidence that they are not transmissible should make vaccination a moot point, let alone forcing them onto anyone.

Virus existence:
I keep repeating that those who claim a virus exists must prove beyond a doubt that it does.

There is a tried and tested method for establishing whether something is true or not in science. However, virology breaks all the scientific rules. Assumptions and computer modelling just aren’t good enough. Despite all the high tech, they can’t even get the weather forecast right.

What kind of competing science are you hinting at? How can you prove something said to exist does not? Perhaps just by looking at the track record of medicine’s failure to diagnose properly?

Looking at history, pretty much everything ascribed to a pathogenic virus causing disease has been revealed to have been either a vitamin deficiency ( e.g.Pellagra, Beriberi – both B vitamin deficiencies) or exposure to toxic industrial products, including vaccines, drugs, fluoridated or otherwise contaminated water, synthetic food additives, pesticides,… and just plain malnutrition in war affected regions.

Even the WHO once acknowledged, before it got completely corrupted by Gates et al, that diseases such as measles was due to a lack of a specific vitamin:

“Severe measles is more likely among poorly nourished young children, especially those with insufficient vitamin A, or whose immune systems have been weakened by HIV/AIDS or other diseases.”

“All children in developing countries diagnosed with measles should receive two doses of vitamin A supplements, given 24 hours apart. This treatment restores low vitamin A levels during measles that occur even in well-nourished children and can help prevent eye damage and blindness. Vitamin A supplements have been shown to reduce the number of deaths from measles by 50%.”

And that’s just one vitamin. I’m pretty sure those 3rd world children are suffering from more deficiencies than just a single vitamin.

And The Science, too, acknowledges that:

Cellular immunity requires specific nutrients in adequate amounts (people are not vaccine-deficient) – e.g.:

D. N. McMurray, “Cell-Mediated Immunity in Nutritional Deficiency,” Progress in Food & Nutrition Science, 1984, p.193.

Historical charts about the decline of so-called transmissible diseases, obtained from government data, clearly show that either

  • viruses took a hike from roughly the 1930s onwards, well before vaccines were introduced

or

  • there are no viruses that cause disease.

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Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 11, 2025 6:48 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Virus existence:
I keep repeating that those who claim a virus exists must prove beyond a doubt that it does.

Science never attempts to ‘prove beyond doubt’, this is not the scientific method. And what criteria of proof is being sought? There are more ways than one to skin a cat. Virology itself doesn’t seek to prove virology via Koch’s postulates, citing other bodies of evidence. There’s a lot to unpick there, and all of it could potentially be ‘valid proof’, could it not? Perhaps this needs to be unpicked in context, rather than seeking to remove context and focus solely on ‘isolation’?

These quotes about vitamin A don’t appear to attribute it as cause, but as treatment, or a cause of increased susceptibility. This seems a far cry from ruling out viral pathogenesis of measles.

Going back to my original point, there are Tabacco Mosaic Virus studies which detail infecting plants. If this is wrong then it should be easy to demonstrate. Why is no one trying to do this by conducting definitive studies? Picking holes in existing studies is one thing, open to interpretation somewhat, however targeted research testing TMV transmission would obviously be far more compelling.

Why is no one driving for this, isn’t this a bit odd? A2

Howard
Howard
Feb 11, 2025 4:01 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

FWIW, I place little more faith in scientific medical experiments than I do in the paranormal. This is because experiments are so easy to rig. It’s all in the subjects of the experiment.

For instance, though I “believe in” vitamins, I always question experiments that prove their efficacy. I recall one which “proved” that Vitamin C (which I take religiously) can shorten a bout of Shingles. All that’s needed is to give test subjects who already recover more quickly than others a big dose of Vitamin C and – Voila! – it’s “proven” that Vitamin C cured them.

(I should point out that though a dedicated materialist I have little regard for Science in general.)

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 12, 2025 7:32 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

the evidence that they are not transmissible should make vaccination a moot point
The evidence that jabs do nothing for flu, and may instead help indebted governments to kill off the aged, makes jabs a moot point.

kingkevin3
kingkevin3
Feb 12, 2025 4:51 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

“Demanding ‘isolates’ (that golden nugget of ‘proof’) has always seemed less than satisfactory, a sleight of hand, an attempt to reframe and simplify to the point of becoming divorced from the data and reality.” Demanding proof of the existence of something that causes illness is ‘a sleight of hand’. You need to go back to school.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 12, 2025 8:46 AM
Reply to  kingkevin3

Don’t quote-mine please, kingkevin. My next sentence was ‘science rarely works in such a simplistic way, except on tv’, by which (to be slightly critical of my previous phrasing) I meant ‘science rarely works out in such a simplistic way…’, and by which I meant that the concept of absolutes are hypotheticals, and absolute proof is pretty unheard of. The virus Easter egg hunt for evidence, as put forward by non-virus proponents, could sound a bit like storybook/cartoon science if we stop to think. According to virologists, viruses can’t be detected in this straightforward way, and therefore the chain of evidence of their existence and action becomes a lot more complicated. All I mean is, let’s make sure we address the evidence as it’s presented to us, instead of how we choose to simplify/misrepresent it. A2

Raymond Kitchen
Raymond Kitchen
Feb 13, 2025 11:17 AM

There is also the scheme that by pretending to deny a group of people this “life saving” DNA soup injection you make it more attractive to the masses of asses. Same reason when they did the initial rollout they all pretended there was a limited supply of this crap.

John Johns
John Johns
Feb 10, 2025 7:02 AM

You’re using collective language, and that’s just lazy thinking. I agree with many of the things you said; however, not all Jews or Israelis are guilty because not all of them participated in or supported the massacre of innocent people.

The Israeli government, like any other government, is a criminal organization funded through stolen property. Of course there are degrees of evil, and today the Israeli government is one of the most evil.

Please remember that in Israel, everyone that turns 18 is forced to join the army. This is slavery. So just because someone is in the military doesn’t mean they are automatically guilty of crimes against innocent people.

There are a lot of soldiers and pilots who did horrendous violent crimes against innocents. However, members of Hamas and Gazan civilians also did horrendous violent crimes against innocents on October 7.

And while every individual has the right to defend themselves by whatever means necessary from aggression, they do not have the right to harm innocent people and create new victims. That applies to both sides.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 10, 2025 2:30 PM
Reply to  John Johns

So, being judged individually, based on what one does as an individual is some sort of ‘Jewish Privilege’? Because other White people sure don’t get that treatment.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Feb 10, 2025 5:39 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Bingo

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 10:38 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

6.

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:41 PM
Reply to  John Johns

“However, members of Hamas and Gazan civilians also did horrendous violent crimes against innocents on October 7.”

You really don’t know that. All you have is Israel’s words. The Israelis stationed on the border are unlikely to have been civilians, and Israeli spies are unlikely to not have noticed Hamas preparing to attack.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 14, 2025 12:01 AM

We are equal. They did something, and we did something, and then there is equal shit on both sides.

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:42 PM
Reply to  John Johns

Even Israeli civilians are armed and often participate in attacks- there are not many innocents there.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 12, 2025 7:37 AM

Despite all the deaths and injuries they suffered from the jabs, the majority of the criminal usurpers support Yahoo and the genocide.

Howard
Howard
Feb 10, 2025 4:02 PM
Reply to  John Johns

One has to ask: how many innocents can there be in a nation like Israel where 80 to 90% of the population in numerous polls fully support the genocide? Especially among the settlers, who were the primary Israeli victims in the initial incursion. Besides which, it is well documented by Haaretz among others that many Israelis killed were victims of friendly (and in some cases deliberate) fire.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 5:46 AM

I see that Lawyer Lescher has responded below in the comments, which is an honor to him. Hello, Michael.

I would very much like to draw attention to an extremely interesting moment for me in connection with the genocide and its coverage. But before that, let’s not miss:

Shalom, Great Israel!
Hallowed be thy Name, thy Kingdom abide, and thy Seed multiply!
In golden letters you will be written in the Book of God, you, Great Israel, Deliverer of the Palestinians from genocide!
And the angels of heaven shall sing praises for thee, and thou shalt sit at the right hand of God, O Savior of Gaza from obliteration!

Look now, Lawyer Lesher, what is the case. By the way, I saw that you have some very good articles here about the fake pandemic, lockdowns and vaccinations, such as the one where you talk about “the connection between lockdown policies and Israel’s long-standing outrages in the Occupied Territories”.

I approve and share your position against the covid program to which we were subjected. And it is in this connection that my very curious, at least for me, case is raised.

In your article, mentioning Isael’s actions in Gaza, you refer to several articles, giving a link to them, including from the websites AlJazeera, ElectronicIntifada, Btselem, Dci-Palestine, Iiss, Ohchr, Democracynow, as well as the websites of the UN and Amnesty. From the same websites, short excerpts with links to the articles (and I want to emphasize that this is by no means a criticism of you, as we will find similar articles in almost absolutely all other sites that talk about the problem in Gaza; also, my entire comment is not criticism of you, but only I use the occasion that this is being talked about to present my curious case  to prove that I correctly call Israel the Great Savior of the people of Gaza from gruesome genocide)):

AlJazeera, “COVID-19 vaccinations are proof of Israel’s medical apartheid. The coronavirus does not stop at checkpoints. As an occupier, Israel must provide medical supplies to Palestinians and adopt measures to combat the disease there.”, 23 Mar 2021. Quote:

“In Israel, more than five million people, or more than half the population, have been vaccinated against COVID-19 and case numbers are dropping.

Just a few kilometres away in Palestine, COVID cases are rising, all of its estimated 200 ventilators are in use, and the Palestinian Authority announced it can no longer put additional COVID patients on ventilators.

Why the disparity? Because Israel has refused to provide vaccines for the more than four million Palestinians living under its military rule.

In short, this is medical apartheid where one group gets the privilege of being vaccinated while the other suffers under the weight of disease, forcing doctors to make decisions about who lives and who dies.”

Israel’s denial of deliveries of covid vaccines (which, according to the widely shared opinion of authors and commentators in alternative media circles, result in disability, often serious, and death) for four million Palestinians, vaccines with which the Palestinian Authority wants to vaccinate its population, mean four million potentially saved Palestinian lives. The Israeli-thwarted attempted genocide of the Palestinian population by the Palestinian Authority is called by Al Jazeera “proof of Israel’s medical apartheid.”

Just one more comment, with your permission, so that we can take a brief walk, with one or two sentences quoted, through the other websites, and say my final accusation and Great Justification to the Savior of the Palestinians – Israel.

Big Al
Big Al
Feb 10, 2025 4:35 AM

Good rant. But good luck with the admonishment. It’s akin to trying to tell the MAGA cult that they’re supporting a fucking sociopath. Probably not gonna work. We’ll have to wait and see what the world does. I’m not optimistic about that either but there are some hopeful signs. The powerful zionist jews are about everywhere now and integral to the New World Order, so it sounds like this shit is going to happen. End game city, man.

Nick
Nick
Feb 10, 2025 1:45 PM
Reply to  Big Al

How do you feel about the fucking sociopath revealing and closing down USAID as the CIA’S camouflage and the provider of billions of stolen tax dollars to global media, C19 research in Wuhan and Bill Gates GAVI organisation? Not forgetting the millions for drag shows in Columbia, gift packs for illegal immigrants, Sesame Street for Iraqis, etc etc.

Big Al
Big Al
Feb 10, 2025 6:16 PM
Reply to  Nick

It’s misdirection. Read Whitney Webb’s take on it.

Nick
Nick
Feb 11, 2025 12:08 PM
Reply to  Big Al

I’m very sorry to see my response to this post has not survived ‘pending’. My other comments on this thread have suffered the same fate. None were slanderous or offensive. I conclude that, like the Guardian, OG is no free speech forum.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 11, 2025 2:27 PM
Reply to  Nick

You have comments here. Nothing has been removed as far as I can see!! Any need for this? A2

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 4:03 AM

Pending

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 4:28 AM
Reply to  antonym

“…for Godot”?

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 5:13 AM

Yes; I am lucky they don’t start their woke Lawfare on me!

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 8:40 AM
Reply to  antonym

“Patience, my son. You endured four whole years of transition through the left-liberal desert, you were thirsty and hungry for the conservative vision. And you have become hardened and healthy to endure the “pending” of off-g”
– The Father of the Vaccine

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 10, 2025 8:16 AM
Reply to  antonym

Can’t wait. I’m sure it’s another thigh slapper!

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 8:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Did you get bitten by the Billy Connolly bug George?

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 3:20 AM

You found one!
Not too difficult as most non-religious Jewish people are real individuals.
On little problem: he lives in the US, not in Israel.

The other little problem: there a dozen Arab Muslim states – and many dozens extra Muslim states too, but only one Jewish one, close to Jerusalem and Judea.

Next at OmG: find an Arab Muslim who is happy to accommodate a non-Muslim state in that historical area, one who doesn’t care about one dream of a 6th century illiterate club leader about Jerusalem. Even one who remember Jesus on top of it..
Problem: there are plenty of those, but they don’t have a death wish.

Nick
Nick
Feb 10, 2025 1:54 PM
Reply to  antonym

‘Only one Jewish state’ is true in terms of geography. But sympathy for Israel wanes somewhat if one views Zionists as the corrupt owners of nations like the US (see AIPAC), as the instigators and bankers of forever wars and world wars, as the villains of 9/11 and subsequent scapegoating of the world’s Muslims, as the co-founders and funders of ‘islamist’ terror groups, as the colonising fascists of the Middle East etc etc.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 6:12 PM
Reply to  Nick

Indeed. The key is to regard such views as load of baloney. Then things have tendency to slot into place neatly

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 10, 2025 2:33 PM
Reply to  antonym

Virtually every state in Europe and N. America is, to some extent or another, a ‘Jewish state’. We are all Palestinians now … 😥

antonym
antonym
Feb 11, 2025 1:42 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

For Western EU “we are Muslims now” is getting closer to reality now, specially in the big cities @ over 60 %.

You brought this upon your woke selves, and need this fire tender to awaken.

Bonno Ray
Bonno Ray
Feb 10, 2025 2:06 AM

It is all very predictable and boring and without doubt sad and a huge horror.

Still it is all part of a bigger war: big pharma, weather control, food poisoning, chemtrails, chemicals, plastics, heavy metals, pesticides, gmo, c02 psyop, all governments have turned into criminal organisations, the media are controlled and control the people.
Western psychology is used to further enslave and dumb down humans.
It would be more interesting to read articles about what is really going on in the bigger picture. Off guardian is a very nice old way of journalism but that is off the past. If you miss the bigger picture there is just shouting at a wall…

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 3:16 AM
Reply to  Bonno Ray

A jigsaw puzzle can’t be properly assembled unless all the parts are identifiable.

Bonno Ray
Bonno Ray
Feb 10, 2025 3:36 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Agree, but people, like here, that really research, question, investigate and read about what is going on often lose themselves in the details, so they get caught in the distraction, which again is part of the strategy taking place….

judith
judith
Feb 10, 2025 12:34 PM
Reply to  Bonno Ray

Well, I would counter that nobody can do it all.

There are many other outlets that are calling out all of what you describe.

Whether one cottons to them or not there is Corbett, Fitts, Webb, Ryan Christian, Patrick Wood, Shannon Joy, Naomi Wolf, Global Research, and others.

I appreciate Fitts, Webb, Corbett and Christian because they are not a bunch of toddlers jumping up and down gleefully over the sweeping tornado of efficiency by Trump and his cohorts. This is not being done to root out the bad guys, it’s to replace the bad guys with AI and more data and more control for the new bad guys.

Nick
Nick
Feb 10, 2025 1:59 PM
Reply to  judith

If the new guys are just as bad, then then is resistance as futile as your doomerism?

judith
judith
Feb 10, 2025 4:21 PM
Reply to  Nick

One person’s doomerism is another person’s looking at things realistically.

Whatever floats your boat.

Bonno Ray
Bonno Ray
Feb 10, 2025 6:13 PM
Reply to  judith

Sure appreciate all these voices…still the bigger picture is often not really in focus. As long as there is no real awareness about the program, the programming, the programmed and how all this may actually be the real issue and source of it all. Psychology rules the world. Western psychology is a root disease. Freud started this huge Fraud. Reich was killed by the US.

Voltaria Voltaire
Voltaria Voltaire
Feb 10, 2025 1:14 AM

Thank you. Of course they probably have or will call you a”self-hating Jew”. Nearly every accusation is a confession.
So the truth is that many of those cheering on the genocide against the Palestinians are secretly hating themselves for the crimes they know, but cannot admit, to even themselves, that they are committing.

They have also been heavily propagandized to feel justified in their blood curdling war mongering, much as the Americans were by an incessantly lying media after 9/11, which resulted in the cruel slaughter of so many innocents, and destruction of their lands and properties, much of which the reality was hidden from the public, and still is. All so the morally bankrupt media moguls, the land and resource thieves, and the eugenicists can achieve their aims.

There is a certain category of psychotic who doesn’t feel safe unless everyone is dead, and they will, whenever possible, get others to do their destruction and killing for them, just so they will be less likely to be stopped. So, even if they are the main engineers of atrocities, they prefer to have others take the blame. When they begin to feel cornered, one can begin to see them freely confessing to the most alarming of crimes, without the faintest sense of responsibility for them. They may seem tough but they live in a hidden utter terror of others.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 12, 2025 7:44 AM

Don’t complicate the issue of twisted vermin overly.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 12:58 AM

Mossad motto – “By way of deception, thou shalt do war.”

The “good guys” also have great fashion sense:
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Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 2:03 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

Or, in his case, ‘One shot, half a kill’.

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 5:11 AM
Reply to  Jonathan

Only two? One human suicide bombers does dozens. What statistics on those kind of people per religion? Judaism 0.0001? vs Is-lam 98%?

Whatever: “brown” Semites good, “white” Semites bad, Woke King.Johny Bible – full of misplaced guilt..

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 5:55 AM
Reply to  antonym

No WMDs found in Iraq.
Half a million dead children.

Many, many, many WMDs on US, UK, and Russian soil.

Go figure.

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 7:27 AM
Reply to  Johnny

The Bangladesh independence war in 1971 or the 1980-1988 Iraq vs Iran war, how many deaths? etc.

Many WMDs on sunni Pakistani and Chinese soil, numbers growing fast.

Nukes are not a woke White privilege, they already spread to other white “White Western victim” actors.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 9:48 AM
Reply to  antonym

The Vietnam and Korean wars.
The US and their sickophants (sic) saving us from the ‘Red Menace’.

Five to seven million dead. Napalm, Agent Orange and land mines. All owned, manufactured and deployed by mainly white, patriotic, Christian Capitalists.

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 2:26 PM
Reply to  Johnny

The CPC menace killed by far the most Chinese, through civil war, Korean war, idiotic Mao plans, the “Cultural” Destruction etc.

Even the Western whites in the Pentagon didn’t manage those numbers of Asian white deaths, sun tanned or not.

The CCCP did much better, more humain, more rational, but of course it had its gulags – which some survived.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 6:36 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Christian Capitalists. White Patriotic Anglo-Sax Capitalist. Fixed.

judith
judith
Feb 10, 2025 12:37 PM
Reply to  Johnny

I was saying to someone the other day that I was brought up to believe “Russia bad! China bad!”

Bullies both.

But as far as I know, Russia does not have 800 military bases all over the world.

China does not have 800 military bases all over the world.

The United States has (correct me if I’m wrong) 800 military bases all over the world.

Who is the bully?

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:57 PM
Reply to  antonym

So Off-G tolerates this zionist muppet while muting a whole bunch of people on this side, so they can say they are open minded?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 10, 2025 4:32 PM

Who has been muted? You?

You haven’t, have you.

This comment section is a negotiation in trust. Turn up again to undermine trust here and I’ll pop you on our premod list. We are under no obligation to host baseless accusations like this. Play nicely, and we’re happy to leave you be. A2

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 6:05 PM
Reply to  antonym

“One human suicide bombers does dozens”
Whataboutery does not condone the contemptuous attitude of Israeli forces.

I don’t support either action, but I have more respect for a suicide bomber than a sniper who shoots pregnant women in the belly, or small boys in the genitals, from a position of relative safety. One does it out of hatred and spite. The other does it believing it is necessary and with willingness to sacrifice everything.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 6:09 PM
Reply to  antonym

“Whatever: “brown” Semites good, “white” Semites bad”

This is the first time I’ve been accused of favouring dark skinned people (or muslims.) I’m kind of offended!

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Feb 10, 2025 12:42 AM

I have learnt more about English and World History in 2 weeks, by watching the American Netflix Series “The Crown” than I ever learnt at School, and a lifetime travelling the world as a tourist since the age of 7.

I could never quite understand, why people all over the world, were so nice to us, even when they didn’t speak much English.

Maybe its our Lancashire accents, never turning up posh, always smiling, and gesturing (non verbal communication) and body language and the words Manchester United.

Everyone knew, as soon as we spoke, we were English.not Americans

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 6:45 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

When push comes to shove, Americans are de facto more brutal predators and merciless than Brits.
Actually its difficult to say who is worse of the soft power or the bombing back to the stone-age people.
But the Tea drinking Brits appearance are maybe more human than the noisy Americans.

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Feb 10, 2025 12:04 AM

it’s interesting to do the math on these human transactions

one Israeli, even dead, seems to be worth about 50 to 100 Arab Untermenschen

an exchange rate for casualties can also be calculated

if 2000 citizens of the colonizer state are killed, the retaliation is considered more or less proportionate, it seems, when roughly several dozen times as many of the colonized population die

this has held true in pretty much all the previous military interventions cited wrt Gaza, but also in places like Iraq, Afghanistan

some victims are more equal than others

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 12:40 AM

Nevertheless, it could be argued that exchanging “3 Israelis for 183 Palestinians” was a particularly good deal for Palestinians?

Ratios of Untermenschen human value would seem to work both ways

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 10, 2025 2:39 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

There are far, far more Palestinians being held captive by Israel than Israelis being held captive by Palestine, so that’s the real reason for the ratio.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 12:55 AM

A reply in pending (yet don’t hold your breath)…

antonym
antonym
Feb 10, 2025 3:34 AM

Some victims have made a lifetime revenue stream out of that role: the eternal Palestinian refugee- UN approved.
Job description: keep on photo opp protesting. Keep making babies = more money. Spend your plenty-full money on apartments above ground and tunnels under. Fat cars too. Don’t work too much, no need!

Needed: enough gullible Western middle class public too fool.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 4:19 AM
Reply to  antonym

Yeah.
Terrorists to the left
Terrorists to the right
Most of them in suits
Most of them white.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 10, 2025 8:15 AM
Reply to  antonym

Making babies = terrorism?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 10, 2025 2:41 PM
Reply to  antonym

Gullible Westerners will keep following Tommy Robinson and other Zionist tools, cheering on the destruction of one Arab country after the next, sending yet more Moslem refugees streaming into Euro-stan. It’s like a kosher self-licking ice cream cone!

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 6:21 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

I didn’t care that TR was pally with Israelis.

I did care when he laughed about White genocide though.

What the UK does to TR proves how evil our govt is. This is still true even if he is a paid actor working for the Establishment.

(I sometimes wonder if he even goes to jail, or if he does, does he get a cushy stay, knowing he will be richly rewarded for the gig? Nice easy work if you can get it.)

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 2:58 PM

“Eye for an eye” is for the simple gentiles. God’s special folk take the whole head just to be sure.

my ways are not theirs
my ways are not theirs
Feb 9, 2025 11:57 PM

actually, one American news editor did apparently caption a photo of released Palestinian prisoners referring to them as “hostages”

the caption was promptly changed and the employee sacked

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Feb 9, 2025 11:54 PM

I went to school in Oldham, Corpus Christi, and Our Lady’s. All the Children looked pretty much like me, and everyone had Christian names… but every day, from the age of 4 – the teacher did a register…almost all the surnames, were typically English, though mine was French (it’s not my fault my family originally came from France) to seek Sanctuary in England from Religious Persecution…

I can still remember some of my school friends surnames, which were quite obviously Eastern European or Russian

My best friends Parents Edward Siekierkowski and Hannah Hrubiak (probably Russia and Hungary) might have been Jewish…but we all went to Holy Communion in Our Roman Catholic Church.

No one could tell the difference.

Even 60 years ago, Scouting for Girls…

I still can’t tell the difference now apart from Lancashire Girls…

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 3:56 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

“My best friends Parents Edward Siekierkowski and Hannah Hrubiak (probably Russia and Hungary) might have been Jewish…”

Or probably Poland and Slovakia? Who knows.. Or maybe they are Jews after all (as maybe everyone with similar names, who are many people from Eastern (and Central) Europe, probably Jewish). To me, many French names sound Jewish, certainly Opmoc.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 4:24 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

In general, all Eastern Europeans are Jews, and so is Putin, but I love him as he is, because he fights hard against the evil Khazarian mafia, shuts down their underground adrenohrome factories, and also “dealt with all the coronaviruses in the world” – Lukashenkо

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 10, 2025 2:44 PM

Alas, here in the real world, Putin is just another vaccine-loving, Chabadnik Zionist tool, exactly like Netanyahoo and Trumpowitz.

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 11:44 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

It’s a deeply disturbing realization for me, Seamus, I’m not sure it’s very kind of you. Until the last moment, I believed that Volodya was a mortal enemy of the Khazars, maybe even a reincarnation of Prince (Knyaz) Svyatoslav Igorevich, why not, why not… But everything collapsed and now I’m unhappy.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 6:57 PM

Did Lukashenko, one of my very few secret heroes, say exactly that??? I think you are trolling fake news mister!

Armistice - another time
Armistice - another time
Feb 10, 2025 11:29 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You are right, Peter Schmeichel, I made a little mistake in the quote which I regret; here’s what exactly Luka said, Ria Novosti (this is the most official official, only Kremlin.ru is more official), 13 April 2022:

“Yesterday I said to Putin: listen, you are good person – war is war, but you instantly stopped all coronaviruses in the world, everyone recovered,” Lukashenko said”

So that’s what Luke said, not what I incorrectly quoted earlier. He also did not say:

“Listen, Vladi, you are a dirty nasty bastard and all normal, conservative Russians hate you because you poured fucking plandemic hell on their heads, released the first “coronavirus vaccine” for clots and death in the world, and you play a fucking hero for opposing the WEF, while daily encouraging and signing everything for the implementation of a full-fledged great reset with a developed 4IR in Russia, which the same normal Russians deeply do not want. And as soon as you started the fake war organized together with the Ukrainian oligarchs and the American deep state, the “deadly pandemic” disappeared, hahaHAAA, you motherfucker! That’s why I like you”.

He didn’t say it. And if you hear someone tell you that they said it, it’s a fake quote.
But I guess he’s your secret hero because of the rest he said to RIA, namely:

Mr. Lukashenko said that the “Belarusian way” turned out to be correct and is now in demand in all countries of the world. Throughout the pandemic, a lockdown has never been introduced in the republic. In October last year, the country introduced a mask regime, but in December all coronavirus restrictions were lifted.

“We (- in Belarus) are doing well. We will soon understand the coronavirus and evaluate both the pros and cons. I don’t want to say that we did everything right there. But for the entire period of time, there were only about 8 thousand deaths,” the Belarusian president explained.”

This is on April 13, 2022.
That’s why you like it, right? How can you not like it if you have a beating, human, conservative, anti-plandemic heart in your chest?! We all like him and he is our secret hero.
And this is on December 5, 2022, the Eurasia Daily reports:

Lukashenko: Belarus coped with the Covid-19 pandemic the best in the world

December 5, 2022
In the conditions of a pandemic, the healthcare system of Belarus has performed well. Alexander Lukashenko said this today, December 5, when receiving a report from the Minister of Health of the Republic Dmitry Pinevich.

“For covid, of course, thank you. I have returned to this question more than once. Let me remind you: my gratitude to the health system and doctors is not for the fact that they treated people, but for the fact that, when not knowing how to treat people, they learned. And today we can already say that no one in the world has coped with this problem as it was done in Belarus. This is not only because our healthcare system has correctly oriented itself. We all know that. Therefore, this once again shows that the healthcare system is working under the control of cruel and pressure,” the Belarusian leader said.

In turn, Dmitry Pinevich said that the country is calm about the tridemia (simultaneous circulation of coronavirus, influenza and respiratory viruses), since a large percentage of people have been vaccinated. The head of the Belarusian Ministry of Health stressed that the epidemic situation in the country is completely controlled, and the number of sick patients with coronavirus infection, according to data on the morning of December 5, is less than 3%

“We have no questions here. Now we are seeing a small increase in morbidity mainly among unvaccinated individuals, mild and moderate cases of the disease,” he said.

According to him, a feature of this epidemiological season should be the simultaneous circulation of influenza viruses, coronavirus and respiratory viruses, which is called tridemia.

“We are calm in this regard, because 72% of the population have been vaccinated against coronavirus infection,” the minister drew attention.

At the same time, referring to comparative data with WHO indicators in other countries, he noted that in Belarus the percentage of vaccinated is higher than in Russia, Poland, the Balkan countries, Ukraine.

“In fact, these are the average European indicators,” Pinevich stressed.

Recall that no emergency measures have been introduced in Belarus since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. The country’s authorities have always maintained that they keep the situation under full control. In recent months, the disease has been almost forgotten in the republic.”

Eeeh, what a hero. Perhaps in our conscious life it will not happen the happiness of having such great presidents in our nasty decadent countries. Such presidents…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 5:17 AM

It seems the whole world, also our secret heroes, did the vaxx idiocy for one or another reason.
But it seems Belarus got away with the scam in a less disturbing way.
But no, I was not mainly thinking on the Corona scam but in general take Lukashenko as one of the few splendid Presidents.
He did the balance between West and East in a decent way, always free of drug trade, refugees, prostitutes, narco trade, kicking out the Liberal Soros gang when they tried to organise in the country, and keeping the Russian Oligarchs at bay.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 11, 2025 10:48 PM

Belarus 70% jabbed.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 9, 2025 11:52 PM

The perverse propaganda of the psychotic Israeli hierarchy is epitomised by the ‘photo op’ at the top of the page.

Michael, you are right, but you are divided by having a religion.

Jonathan
Jonathan
Feb 10, 2025 1:26 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Looks like a Palestinian photo op to me!
Both sides love their propaganda.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Feb 10, 2025 1:30 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I was the youngest of 5 children. I knew, they all wanted me to be a Catholic Priest..So what could I do, when I was 10 years old, sent to Upholland Priests Training College…in less than 1 day, I knew it was a fate worse than death. When I was 8, I had my appendix removed the nurses were really nice, probably only about 15…They said Anthony, I am sorry, we have to do this to you,so that you get better. Their is a blockage ..She says its OK – hold on to me…its going to hurt.

I demanded to go home, but she did save my life, putting a bar of soap up my bum.

I always knew I preferred girls and did not like pain.

some people seem to like it, but I and all my children were breastfed…

So we come to know and Dmitry Orlov writes the funniest and truest comment….

I rarely promote Russians…but can’t argue with this (even though he has deleted everything I ever wrote on his blog) – how’s your Quindon doing mate?

He is a very clever man – his comments are the funniest
about sticking it up your bum.
https://boosty.to/cluborlov

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 7:15 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Ohh so Dmitri also jumped on the Hate and Low Orange Man. Enough to give Orlov a kick out of my reading list of potentials. https://images.boosty.to/image/dee016d6-57a7-4c9a-9186-e23901955fd3
Yes you see right: Titanic, Capitol Hill, down in 2 weeks only by one man.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 7:18 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

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Rob
Rob
Feb 9, 2025 11:42 PM

2025- the end of religion.
https://robc137.substack.com/p/alphabet-vs-the-goddess

“I believe humanity’s foray into fiction began with the breakdown of the bicameral mind, and the insertion of meaningless symbols in between the subject and the seer. In short, back when people used pictographic alphabets, we were limited to discussing things we could actually see in the real world. The invention of phonemic alphabets like this one, which are comprised not of representative pictures but of meaningless letters, provides the opportunity to invent an endless stream of non-sense, the greatest of these being spelled with just a single capital letter.”

From chapter 4 of Ian McGilchrist ‘s book The Matter with Things:

“One related difference between right and left prefrontal cortex activation is that the left dominates where belief bias points to the correct conclusion, and, by contrast, the right dominates where it does not. Belief bias is in fact generally associated with the left hemisphere, not with the right hemisphere.”

Also chapter 4

“To put it crudely, the right hemisphere is our bullshit detector. It is better at avoiding nonsense when asked to believe it, but it is also better at avoiding falling prey to local prejudice and just dismissing rational argument because the argument does not happen to agree with that prejudice”

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Feb 10, 2025 11:17 AM
Reply to  Rob

It’s quite a puzzle – can you talk your way out of talking?

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Feb 10, 2025 6:33 PM
Reply to  Rob

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance — that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
Herbert Spencer

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 9, 2025 11:33 PM

“After watching your behavior over the last 15 months,…”

Indeed. Why the reluctance to speak out previously?

Michael Lesher
Michael Lesher
Feb 9, 2025 11:44 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

A fair question — if I HAD been reluctant. Actually, I’ve published six pieces on Israel’s genocidal campaign since October 7, 2023, several of them here on Off-Guardian:
http://www.michaellesher.com/publications.htm

Marb
Marb
Feb 10, 2025 12:47 PM
Reply to  Michael Lesher

Thank You Michael for Speaking Out! .. Is There a difference between Orthodox Jews who follow the Torah exclusively? , and those who are more Talmudic , the Talmud appears( at least to a non Jew who has only read selections perhaps a few hundred pages of a vast Multi Volume set , ( the Babylonian Talmud))to be quite a Suprematist Book referring to non Jews as Goyim , stating that under certain circumstances it is not a Sin to cheat or even Kill them , Calling Jesus Christ the son of a whore… I cant provide the exact citations right this moment , but i have read them most probably out of context in the Babylonian Talmud … There does in any case appear to be at least one well known Jewish Sect who have raised awareness of the Genocide as You have Naturi Karta .. they appear at Pro Gaza demonstrations all over the World … And are clearly Anti Zionist .. Thank You for the impassioned Essay …

Marb
Marb
Feb 10, 2025 10:56 PM
Reply to  Marb

comment image. [IMG-20250211-005410.jpg](https://postimg.cc/56R4rVgd)https://i.postimg.cc/SxynJQzs/ IMG-20250211-005410.jpg. Heres an excerpt from Sanhedrin 57a, screenshot taken from Chabad.org…..”if a Gentile Murders another Gentile or a Jew he is Liable, if a Jew Murders a Gentile He is exempt”

Marb
Marb
Feb 11, 2025 2:30 AM
Reply to  Marb

Heres another Quote from the Babylonian Talmud , Yevamot 98a, screenshot from Chabad.org, Nb/ the whole Babylonian Talmud can be Downloaded from Archive org its over 40 volumes.. this quote ( an excerpt) says ” As for Egyptians, whose Flesh is as the Flesh of Donkeys and whose Semen is as the Semen of Horses ( Ezekiel 23-20) the Offspring of a Male Gentile is considered no more related to Him than to a Donkey or a Horse” https://postimg.cc/CnbXKqtk. comment image. The Babylonian Talmud is one of the Primary Foundational Documents of Contemporary Judaism.. look it up for Yourselves ! On the Surface it appears violently racist towards Gentiles…. There are numerous other ” hate Speech “. incidents.. or certainly quotes that were they in the Koran or other Muslim text would be viewed as Such ..

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 7:49 PM
Reply to  Michael Lesher

All right, but the TONE is these 6 pieces were reluctant. So why were the TONE over these 15 mht in these 6 pieces soo reluctant? Just asking.

Big Al
Big Al
Feb 10, 2025 4:24 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Curious as to why the accusation when it’s obviously incorrect? Not to mention the upvotes for it. What gave you the impression the author has been reluctant to speak out previously?

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 4:58 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Prejudice minus perception?

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 7:00 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Referring to Vagabard there.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 6:26 AM
Reply to  Big Al

6 articles in 16 months is hardly prolific. The last one in May 2024

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 10, 2025 7:01 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Give him a break.
He’s a poet, not a journo.

Jonas Carling
Jonas Carling
Feb 10, 2025 7:27 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

It’s called “moving the goalpost”

Once your fault has been exposed, instead of simply apologising for the slip-up, you just double down by actually denying your error and moving the goalpost to some vague unmet standard (oh yeah, he wrote, but not as much as I wanted him to).

Seriously: is this truly a mature way to have a debate on such a serious topic? Think again …

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 10, 2025 8:14 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Arbitrary definition of “prolific”. Should it have been 6 million?

Gollum's Manager
Gollum's Manager
Feb 10, 2025 3:37 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Wait, is it 6 million or just 5 million? so confusing!

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Feb 10, 2025 7:53 PM

I heard it was below 1 mio, about 666000. Whatever it was, the division by race is an ugly feature yes!

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Feb 10, 2025 6:36 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Perhaps Trump’s announcement for the redevelopment of Gaza was the final piece of the jigsaw.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 10, 2025 7:12 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Certainly provocative. If it actually goes ahead then who knows what the ultimate consequences may be…