Let’s talk about…the incoming Ukraine deal
Donald Trump is going to end the “war” in Ukraine, one way or another, and be hailed as a peacemaker by his fans and appeaser by his foes.
We laid this out in on of our “Predicting 2025” series…
…and so far that looks to be right on the money.
The US and Ukraine are working out a minerals deal. Putin and Trump are going to have a summit.
The specifics have yet to be worked out, but the signs are there. Despite initial vocal outrage from European leaders, it’s noteworthy that Macron went to Washington to talk with Trump and that Starmer quasi-praised the US President for “changing the Ukraine conversation”.
This is all positioning and tuning. None of the “leaders” want to be totally against a deal they know is inevitable because then they look like they lost, but none of them want to endorse it fully either because then they look like they’re just following Trump.
It’s about polishing egos as much as anything else.
That doesn’t mean you can expect full-throated support for a peace deal from any of Europe’s gilded class, of course. Too many companies stand to make too much money from European nations “being forced to increase defence spending by an unreliable US”.
There’s even renewed talk of the ever-hypothetical EU army.
But what do you think?
- Will there be a “peace deal”?
- What will the terms be?
- Will Ukraine lose territory?
- Will Trump win a Nobel Peace Prize
- How much of our money are they about to steal in the name of defense?
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Lets delete posts…and replys…..
“ The US and Ukraine are working out a minerals deal..”
https://southfront.press/ukrainian-clown-zelensky-kicked-out-of-the-white-house/
Right, this guy is a real knucklehead, said someone was coming to get us, but didnt say who, he was then escorted out of the WH and sent back to his handlers who were doing damage control after Wile E Coyotting off the cliff of reason.
I wouldn’t surprise me at all if Zelensky is given a Nobel Peace prize…
Kit, do you see what kind of theater is being played in the White House? Again, it seems that we are rather returning to my old assumption of prolonging the war. But even with a big + that Zelensky (that is, the man under Left DeepState), spoils the peace deal, the rare earth deal (USA-Ukraine, but not with Russia) has been canceled and… everything is tied in a left deepstate against Putin, and against Trump (as and a “game against the interests of the United States”).. But things change, as we know, who knows.
TASS collected the main information about the meeting at the White House.
Negotiations with the Russian Federation At the beginning of the meeting, Trump called the negotiations with Russia very good. “We need to negotiate a deal,” he stressed.
He noted that Moscow and Kiev are quite close to reaching an agreement on a peaceful settlement of the conflict.
Risk of World War III
The Ukrainian leadership will have to make compromises on the issue of a peaceful settlement with Russia.
Zelensky is playing “with World War III.” “You are not in the best position at the moment. [You] run out of soldiers and tell us you don’t want a ceasefire,” Trump said.
The American leader called the question of whether the United States is on the side of Ukraine in the conflict stupid.
Washington will withdraw its support for Kyiv if Volodymyr Zelensky does not seek to resolve the conflict.
Trump stressed that either the countries will make a deal or the United States will “leave”. “You will fight to the end, but you have no trump cards,” he stressed.
Quarrel in the Oval Office
Trump said he wanted to talk about reaching a deal to resolve the crisis in Ukraine, not about his visit to the country.
Zelensky tried to argue with the American leader, shouting, sometimes answering questions from the press in front of him, directly interrupting and reacting rudely to some questions from journalists.
The last few minutes of the conversation passed in raised tones.
“You have said enough. You don’t win. You don’t win. You have a damn good chance of getting out of this with us,” Trump said, interrupting and raising his voice to Zelensky.
According to Trump, if Ukraine did not have American weapons, this conflict would be over in two weeks.
U.S. Vice President J. D. Vance called it disrespectful “to enter the Oval Office and try to argue in front of the American media.”
Trump said Zelensky was not ready for a peaceful settlement. “What you are doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country,” the American leader noted.
Zelensky left the White House early after a heated argument. The joint press conference has also been canceled.
The signing of an agreement between the United States and Ukraine on mineral resources has been canceled, White House press secretary Caroline Leavitt said.
Reaction in the world
Elon Musk said that Zelensky destroyed himself in the eyes of the American people.”
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Bhahahaha, circus maximus.
So, so, if someone is interested and has not yet understood, let him have it at hand. There are many believers here in the sacred truth of conflict (as part of the sacred eternal human conflict, etc.). To congratulate them, whatever it is, whatever the consequences for all of us, they will at least experience it as a real thing, is not small. Maybe it will just drag on and on, as before, until they continue to digitize everything, nothing more striking (but this is not a small).
The Circus (just for fun)
It was an ambush meeting. Zelensky was supposed to kiss the ring, but refused. And the wannabe don and his mini-me got upset!
Very accurate capture of the spirit of the situation and witty comparisons, but I do not consider the situation itself to be real, as you know.
By the way, thanks for the communication; I even read earlier, I even think that in a conversation with you, a member of the staff expressed a desire to see more communication, at the expense of pamphletism; but you’d better not make any more contact with me, because, do you know Fergus? Fergus McFlea? Clumsy scottish aaaaaholes, a loafer who hangs around, keeps track of who writes how much, for how long, how often, who talks to whom, and then put, right in the middle of the clean, white tablecloth of the commentary box, a big smelling complaint that “I can’t read comment strings anymore without thinking it’s the same person with multiple handles taunting and arguing with themselves. Especially handles that show up multiple times throughout the comment section.”
Who are you, Lost? Are you sure we’re not the same person? I – not quite. We are both active, and now we are talking – to each other, or are we the same person talking to himself? Can you prove otherwise? And what about the poor scottish dog? We can’t stay the poor scottish fool to wandering anxiously around the comment board, getting paranoid outbursts as soon as he sees us talking. We will not talk (to each other, or to ourselves, or in any other way). Thank you for joining in, bye.
Unknown, Unknowns so much for predictions!
Capitulation!
https://nypost.com/2025/02/20/opinion/putin-is-the-dictator-and-10-ukraine-russia-war-truths-we-ignore-at-our-peril
Mr. President: Putin is THE dictator and 10 Ukraine-Russia war truths we ignore at our peril
By Douglas Murray
Published Feb. 20, 2025
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https://nypost.com/2025/02/19/us-news/trump-rips-ukraines-zelensky-as-dictator-without-elections
Trump rips Ukraine’s Zelensky as ‘dictator without elections’
Feb. 19, 2025
President Trump bashed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as a “Dictator” in a blazing rant Wednesday, one day after an American delegation met with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia.
“A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only ‘TRUMP,’ and the Trump Administration, can do,” Trump, 78, wrote in a lengthy Truth Social post, referencing Ukraine suspending elections in 2024 due to the ongoing war.
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“Did I say that?”
Interesting questions. However one must understand thatnsomdat we are dealing solelyon Trump’s rhetoric no actions and that almost nothing was discussed and nothing at all has been already agreed upon.
Will there be a “peace deal”?
Irrelevant for Ukraine. Russians insist and Trump seems to agree via Hegseth words in Munich that from now on it is a war solely between Russia and Ukraine and only bilateral Kiev-Moscow talks with no US involvement or leverage can bring a settlement dictated by Russia. Putin not Trump will have clean bloody mess Biden has left.
The subject of US RF peace talks is solely to end NATO proxy war in Ukraine before such settlement can be achieved. That’s means that US has no leverage over Russia as any attempt to escalate militarily involvement or sanctions or imposing secondary sanctions will defeat Trump priority policy of stopping dedollarization and stabilizing dollar while there is another unprecedented western financial crisis and debt crisis looming just over horizon,
What will the terms be? There will be no terms for ending proxy war but complete unilateral US ending of all hostilities including sanctions, all supplies, all funding and all operational suport including personnel for Kiev regime as a gesture of American good will and honest intention to distance Trump administration from failed and dangerous policies of Biden and beginning of rebuilding completely destroyed by US trust between two biggest Nuclear superpowers by full unconditional restoration and normalization of all bilateral relations.That’s why Trump is not tabling his proposals for Ukraine settlement because he has none.nor is he interested in. All the cacophony of absurd initiatives (like joining US as backdoor US security guarantees by selling Ukraine or phony peacekeeping to prolong the war) we hear loudly is to publicly deny hard reality of Russian dictate as a victor.
As of today neither Russia nor U.S. even have ambassadors in their capitals. This process which completion could take perhaps a year or more is an prerequisite to any further talks that will focus on pan European indivisible security framework (Ukraine if still exists will become part of) that de facto will make NATO obsolete as required remedy to eliminate root causes of the conflict. There will never be Ukraine in NATO as national will be dismantled or irrelevant. It’s worth to note that Russians may negotiate with US but the only guarantee that those potential agreements will be honored by US is for Russia to elevate her status to a military superpower which they plan by end of 2027. Trump disingenuous proposal of bilaterally cutting military spending is a veiled attempt to stifle this process.
Will Ukraine lose territory? Kiev regime has already lost its territories (Donbas, Zaporozhie, Kherson and Crimea) by a vote of Russian Duma in June 2014 and October 2022 and signature of Putin. From that time on constitution of RF compels Putin to liberate entire RF territory from foreign troops before any possibility of any settlement negotiations with Kiev. Putin clearly expressed that fact in June 2024 when he offered that Kiev withdrew from Russian territory in order to negotiate terms including potential ceasefire. Otherwise Russian will liberate their own territory by themselves no matter what.
Will Trump win a Nobel Peace Prize? if he buys it he will as Obama a warmonger did.
How much of our money are they about to steal in the name of defense?
Demanded by Trump 5% of GDP for NATO alone for ten years is a minimum for EU to match Russian power of today while Russian power will increase meanwhile. And that amounts to 40%-60% of EU national budgets as they except for Germany are hopelessly in debt. That in turn means gutting most of welfare state expenditures. The only alternative are: to chase illusion, like chasing cat’s tail, of economically or militarily beating Russia while ruining their own countries or reconcile Russo European relations on Russian terms especially via pan European indivisible security framework and treaty.
The only other path is WWIII.
War used to be an efficient and effective way to cull the population…either through blowing arms and legs off of soldiers, or starving the weak due to the collapse of the infrastructure or, as in WWII, blowing up thousands with a very effective bomb.
Now it is easier to kill off excess people with a vaccine, or poisonous food and water, or other less obvious ways.
If looking through a lens of “viable electoral leadership” i.e., assuming that it is all run by all the nation’s leaders and military, then why not create a peace treaty? Russia will get the Russian part of Ukraine “back”, no NATO in Ukraine, and Ukraine will get a mineral deal with the US.
If looking through the globalist “agenda” lens, then who knows? If the war suits the agenda (as it has since it started), then there will be no peace (although making peace, as stated above, may still serve the agenda).
It’s also a good excuse to push through ’emergency powers’.
9/11, covid and climate change are three other examples where ‘extraordinary circumstances’ and/or existential crises (and what could be more of an existential crisis than war?) were used to introduce draconian measures that would have been difficult to do under ‘normal’ circumstances.
It also generates huge profits, particularly for the banks funding both sides (as ever was) and the arms manufacturers.*
As you point out, it’s now easier to kill off the population without destroying the infrastructure or the land, but war still has its place as an instrument of change. Sadly.
*On a side note, I saw meme recently pointing out that pharma companies want an end to sickness in the same way that arms manufacturers want an end to war. Can’t find it now though.
Unfortunately, there are so many anomalies and suppositions in your thesis of ” ..why not create a peace treaty..” it is better proposition to bet on the Moon being made of Gorgonzola!
Says the guy who believes all the war films and story’s as 100% fact.
Petra everything is fake/psyop Liverani an ex member who was adl attack by catt and co for calling fake on everything.
Well Petra appears on fakeologist to discuss why the moon landing was actually real whilst everything else is fake.
Did not work out well.
FAK1030-Petra Liverani
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1YqJDZvpVywKV
Think in terms of Charles “Lucky” Luciano and Vito Genovese resolving a turf war and divving-up the plunder. 🤑
“Will Trump win a Nobel Peace Prize?”
No, but he will receive a Grammy for Musical of the Decade for “Wounded and Survivor: Fighting Deep Left”, and Putin will receive the Guinness for the longest playing warm-up band (two years). A collective Nobel for Mathematical Achievement will be awarded to all alt-media for their efforts to convince their users that 4 is not 2 + 2 (=there is a war – between good and evil or between bandits – whatever), as well as the Soviet Award for “Many-Machine Workers”. And finally, everyone will gather for a final party at MAG-A-Lago.
On 12 May 2024, Putin appointed Andrey Belousov for Minister of Defense. A bouquet of blitz facts about him for additional confirmation that there is a war after all (some kind, after all).
1.The Agency for Strategic Initiatives (ASI) is an “agent of change” that works with leaders on large-scale initiatives and unites the efforts of society, business and government. The chairman of the Supervisory Board is Putin, and the members are Andrey Belousov, Herman Gref and others.
2.In December 4, 2014, on behalf Putin, ASI create National Technology Initiative (NTI)
3.Key NTI markets /List of market: .. 4. NeuroNet /Tasks and technologies: Development of human-machine communications based on advanced developments in neurotechnology and increasing the productivity of human-machine systems, the productivity of mental and thought processes. Technologies: brain mapping, creation of a new generation of the World Wide Web based on brain-computer interfaces
Conclusion: There is a war, whatever it is, but is, but it will stop with the good old bandit business and there will be peace. Someone will receive awards.
Agency for Strategic Initiatives creates National Technology Initiative. That’s rich. When out of your depth, delegate.
Personally, I would imagine that the real “peace deal” for all those minerals is already either done, or close to it. Our owners have probably managed to get all the farm land they wanted, all the easements or whatever for the mines they plan, and deals on natural gas fields as well. They no longer need the war as distraction as they’ve already bought up, on the cheap, all the resources they wanted from Ukraine. While ending the war is a good thing, what will the Ukrainian people be left with? Not much worth anything at all I would suspect. As for Trump winning a Nobel Peace Prize, why not? It should be obvious to all by now that prize no longer means what it once meant, if it was ever really about true peace in the first place.
The US and Ukraine are working out a minerals deal. Who’d have thunk? – Don’t say you were so naiv to believe that people died here for someone’s freedom.
The digitotalitarian Trump-Musk-Thiel regime is always about efficiency. Therefore, a pseudo-peace will be concluded between the USA and the RF mainly to jack up the EU, which is supposed to fight the war against the RF on its own. The corresponding “special assets” are already being prepared , bypassing all national or EU debt ceilings. These massive funds/loans will be purchased by the usual suspects. Possibly, if it serves the purpose of concealment, via the BIS, as was arranged before WW II. The war-mongering EU with Von der Leyen and “BlackRock” Merz at the helm will get this “new deal” off the ground. A peace Nobel Prize will therefore tend to doa better job on the EU side. If the EU’s war against the supposed arch-enemy in the East threatens to fail, the USA will step in at the last moment and defeat the despicable EU dictatorship. Nothing is ever new. Not even lies. And nothing is too bad to protect the international oligarchy, decimation of the world’s population included.
They’re going to steal all the money one way or another and it’s not OUR money anyway- it’s all lent by the banks and “retired” when used. They don’t say “all wars are banker’s wars” for nothing. Until we stop the money racket the system will continue. Get hip to the root of the evil or live with it suckers.
Just to share an interesting detail about the Russian military command. I have been thinking since the article of VN Alexander, when Antonym shared a link about the negotiations for a 50% reduction in military money.
Where will the redundant 50% go? And will the personnel base be reduced by 50%? (Biden’s mandates for mandatory vaccination of the military?) The material base? Will they be used for anything else? Or will they rebuild the entire structure into something else? Is it prepared in advance? Interesting..
(Only now I saw that there is a “spoiler”, hopefully it will work, to reduce the length. I haven’t used an off-G spoiler, in various forums I’ve used, and there when you press the spoiler and it expands, then you can’t put it away, there is no return option, so to return it you have to “refresh” from the browser. To say.)
The Agency for Strategic Initiatives (ASI) is an “agent of change” that works with leaders on large-scale initiatives and unites the efforts of society, business and government. The chairman of the Supervisory Board is Putin, and the members are Andrei Belousov, Herman Gref and others.
As of June 13, 2023, Andrey Belousov is First Deputy Prime Minister.
ASI news, June 13, 2023:
First Deputy Prime Minister Andrei Belousov called the events related to the Horizon 2040 project one of the key events at the Forum.
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According to him, a number of global processes are taking place in the world now, new trends are being formed related to the climate and food agenda, energy transition, demography, pandemic waves, and they need to be understood.
“We see a colossal technological challenge. Some experts say that already in the 2030s we will get the so-called technological singularity“..
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“[Among the directions with which Russia can reach the world] is tradition and conservatism, but that’s not all. It should be a modernized conservatism. Russia can become the guardian of the traditional values of the West, while the West has said goodbye to these traditional values and moved on to something else, which is actually an anti-tradition within postmodernism. In the West, there are elites and large social strata that are associated with traditional values. Here it may turn out that Russia is a saving straw for them, which gives them the opportunity to at least save something.”
The goals of the project are “to determine the image of the future of Russia by 2040 based on global trends and forecasts.”
Modernized conservatism, not just any. And who stopped the spread of lgbtqr propaganda and defends traditional values while signing digital rubles and biometrics (just for starters, the rest will be heard later), and who, on the other side of the ocean, signed a reduction in the money of schools that have gender diversity programs, while signing 500 billion for AI Data centers (and personalized vaccines)? The target group seems to be conservative people.
On 12 May 2024, President Putin appointed Andrey Belousov Minister of Defense, replacing Sergei Shoigu, effective 14 May 2024. I read that he is a very religious, Orthodox Christian.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240608234745im_/https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/271828/pub_664c659d0094163924102120_664c727c0094163924238913/scale_1200
But maybe is modernized orthodox. More interesting facts about him, which I have collected to my taste:
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Belousov is not a military man and did not even serve conscription…
By the way, the future Minister of Defense graduated from the university with honors with a degree in “economist-cybernetic.”
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In 1986, Belousov was offered to head a laboratory at the Institute of Economics and Forecasting of Scientific and Technological Progress of the USSR Academy of Sciences.
Colleagues who had a chance to work with him recall: Andrei Removich amazed with his desire to constantly learn something new. And he also surprised me with his incredible efficiency.
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Parlamentskaya Gazeta (Parliamentary Gazette), 13.05.2024
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[Federation Council Speaker Valentina] Matvienko drew attention to the fact that Belousov went through a “very serious school” of the head of federal structures – at different periods of his career, he served as head of the Ministry of Economic Development, and also during the COVID-19 pandemic he temporarily served as prime minister.
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Belousov is known as a person who tries to focus on the digital economy and the introduction of new digital technologies.
He was one of the godfathers of the Kazan city of the future – Innopolis.
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Putin explained the purpose of Belousov’s appointment as Minister of Defense
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Belousov, according to the president, should open the Ministry of Defense for constructive work with scientific centers, with participants in economic activity, as well as with manufacturers of military products. “He should open the Ministry of Defense to innovation,” the head of state added.
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Russia stopped the Western Wikipedia and made its own Wikipedia, I don’t know if you know. I saw a lot of materials carried over from the old one. Such are for the ASI, for example. ru.ruwiki.ru, Agency for Strategic Initiatives to Promote New Projects (ASI), briefly:
..established by the Russian Government to implement a set of measures in the economic and social spheres..The Chairman of the Supervisory Board is Putin..the members are Andrey Belousov, Herman Gref (and others)..Initiatives:
National Technology Initiative (NTI)
..created by the Decree of the Prime Minister Medvedev, implemented on the basis of the President’s address to the Federal Assembly on December 4, 2014:
“However, we must also think about how we will solve promising problems. In this regard, I propose implementing the National Technology Initiative. On the basis of long-term forecasting, it is necessary to understand what tasks Russia will face in 10-15 years, what advanced solutions will be required in order to ensure national security, a high quality of life for people, and the development of industries of a new technological order.”
..on June 9, 2015..it was announced that the backbone documents of the NTI will be “road maps” aimed at the formation of promising technology markets, which are supposed to be developed to a greater extent than others. Roadmaps should include a rationale for the selection of such markets, a list of targets by 2035
..In addition, a special interdepartmental working group headed by Deputy Prime Minister Ar.V. Dvorkovich and Presidential Aide A.R. Belousov was created under the Presidium of the Council for Modernization..
Key NTI markets /List of market
Market Name: 4. NeuroNet
Tasks and technologies:
Development of human-machine communications based on advanced developments in neurotechnology and increasing the productivity of human-machine systems, the productivity of mental and thought processes. Technologies: brain mapping, creation of a new generation of the World Wide Web based on brain-computer interfaces
Dude. what are you talking (daydreaming) about? Stick to the point.
haha, witty, don’t listen to me, buddy
Which is the point? Because I can think of at least 4, or 5, specifically for the case, and they are opposing each others. Which point of yours are you talking about?
(By the way, just out of curiosity, are you a mason?)
I think it’s just not happening. Much ado about nothing. May I be wrong.
There will be a peace deal as the creator, dominant funder and driver of this deadly gravy train just got off.
Ukraine will lose the Donbass, but it wasn’t really theirs to begin with.
You don’t win Nobel Peace prizes for actually bringing peace (see Obama’s). You’re either assassinated or demonized.
It seems that a dominant sector of the ruling class has recognized that the “rules based order”. Liberalism/social democracy is bankrupt and will not be rebuilt. Liberals with their pronouns are play-acting a rearguard fight, doing what they usually do when out of power as the “useless opposition.”
It’s all about the minerals…has been…always will be.
Just like Gaza
Yeah, Ukraine and Gaza are the same… there’s nothing but regular rocks there. At least Ukraine has some first-rate farmland, although many countries have that…
There are no valuable minerals in Ukraine that are profitable to mine. If there were, somebody would’ve been digging them up by now. You are falling for the old upturned three-cup trick, where they invite you to bet on which cup the ping-pong ball is under.
And in Russia? Because Monsieur Putin and Senor Donald are on their way to a rare earth mining agreement. Do you think it will fail? And then the digital economies of the United States and Russia are under threat, or at least slowed down?
Have you any concrete evidence to support your claim, they ” ..are on their way to an ..agreement ” ?
No, I have only soft guesses. Simplicius, Ritter, Douglas, Meissan and Pepe are the people with the hard evidence, thousands to this day, which did not come true (Russia would crush Ukraine every week or month, would have smashed the West with missiles, to de-dollarized many times so far, etc., etc.). And finally: “Simplicius retains modest hopes that the Russian CBDC is different”
Such things. If you have fun, then it’s good.
The MSM do a good line in making accusations/ guesses/ highly likely scenarios without any factual evidence as well !
I agree. Exactly the same thing that the ones I mentioned do, only msm is their mirror image. So I don’t read both types, and if I do, it’s to inform myself how narratives are going, to orient myself about upcoming realities, and also how the scripted confrontation of a formal/mainstream narrative versus an alternative mirror narrative is created, moving and maintained to keep the audience’s spirits in the game in the right ways.
” ..I inform myself ..” Yes, quite !
blood fear is worth more than minerals.
Be sure the whole Ukraine war has been choreographed from the beginning.
We know the three Russian Intelligence visited Washington together! We know Moscow pulled back from invading further than Donbass after order from US, we know Russia pulled back from Kiev after similar order.
We know Russia has spared the Kiev administration as it was expensive Chinese porcelain, while giving up many of their own good senior people.
The war has been isolated to Donbass, and a few particular bombings on Ukrainian Transformer stations, and similar signalling, bombing the population into acceptance transformation.
While the war was ongoing, Blackstone and other Finance firms poured money into Ukraine to investment in Ukraine as the appointed front country for Digital society.
We know Moscow fired one of their best men Primakov also after order from US. And what did Moscow get in return for all this? International loans and deals!
Trump is a business man and has no specially preference for wars other than if obsoletely necessary.
I believe he easily could negotiate a deal home with the Russians. The Russians like him and they like our threesomes, swinger clubs, motorcycle clubs, CEO/CFO titles, m.m..
“ We know…We know…, we know ..We know..”
Perhaps a know nothing !
“We know Moscow fired one of their best men Primakov also after order from US. And what did Moscow get in return for all this? International loans and deals!”
Yes, it’s a pity for Evgeny, he was a nice man and a patriot. And a member of the Club of Rome. He had strong values and good friends.
https://im.kommersant.ru/Issues.photo/CORP/2023/05/27/KMO_096855_32223_1_t246_114516.webp
June 12, 2012, St. Petersburg Economic Forum
” .. Moscow fired one of their best men Primakov after order from US. ”
Have you hard factual evidence to support this ?
It was in Boris Jeltsin last days where Sovjet struggled the Glasnost bs and were depending on US approval of loans than today.
But the case that he had to sell on of his best men for Western money, made Jeltsin so pessed that he swore to the appointed Putin to “show them”.(that we have nukes).
May I ask you, did Primakov leave or not?
Excuse me, as this is inside information from a fly on the wall in Kremlin, I cant give you more proof 😋 .
It’s interesting that some people speculate about people without a shred of factual evidence to support their claim. This is called smearing!
I have none, neither hard nor factual. Ask Eric, he made the statement, which I ironized, let him explain. Every reasonable person I know not only from Russia, but in Eastern Europe as a whole, despises this dirty traitor and member of the Club of Rome.
” Every ….I know from Russia , ….traitor..”
Hmm, really how many would that amount to ?
Meanwhile a very long term resident journalist and author wrote this about him.
It’s just as well Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov will appear for his meetings in Washington next week clean-shaven.
A recent history of the human face came to the conclusion that, at least in the earliest systems of human government, men with beards did well, because it was thought they could negotiate better, conceal their real feelings, and get away with telling more believable lies.
But since 1991 there have been few beards on the faces of Russian officials. The goatee that former Central Bank chairman, Sergei Dubinin, used to display never improved the credibility of his claims. The moustache on the face of Finance Minister Mikhail Zadornov hasn’t made him more believable either. It’s a fitting symbol of the half-truths he’s in the habit of uttering.
The impoverishment of Russia’s taxable income, the size of its debts, the depth of its corruption, and the lack of political alternatives to deal with the situation — these are the topics which Primakov is bringing to the table in Washington. He isn’t going to hide them behind the false beards that used to work so well, when Boris Yeltsin, Yegor Gaidar, Victor Chernomyrdin, Anatoly Chubais, and Sergei Kirienko performed their negotiating tricks.
Until now, only German Chancellor Schroeder has acknowledged that there can be no solution to Russia’s income and debt problems without political stability; and that only Primakov can deliver that. Of course, the German price is that Primakov must continue to promise eventual repayment of the massive Soviet-era debt. If that were forgiven, as most Russian officials would like, it would impose an embarrassingly heavy burden on Germany’s banks and taxpayers.
The Clinton Administration has been trying hard to look in another direction, ignoring the German sensitivity on the debt question, and aiming instead to use the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as leverage for forcing Primakov out of office.
The problem with making IMF lending contingent on Russian “reform” the wooliest fake-beard of them all is that Russian public opinion,the balance of power in federal parliament and the regions, and the authority of the state prosecutor and state auditing chamber have finally converged to say one thing: no alternative Yeltsin or the Clinton Administrationcan come up with is credible in the fight to rid Russia of corruption.
Primakov’s growth in the polls has come from the perception that he’s not wearing a beard on this issue. So widespread is this perception that he is capturing voters from the Communist column, from the Moscow base of Mayor Luzhkov, from the intelligentsia that favours Grigory Yavlinsky, and from law-and-order charismatics like General Lebed.This support is powerful enough that, if it isn’t checked, it would likely sweep Primakov to election in the first round of the next presidential poll.
The problem the Clinton Administration has been studying for weeks is how Primakov has managed to achieve these political gains through a winter that was forecast to be catastrophic economically — without a single wheat kernel, pork-chop, or Bush’s leg from the U.S. or Europe having arrived for hungry Russians to feed on.
Even if Primakov assures the IMF that he will devote an even larger share of revenues to paying the country’s debts, at the expense of the welfare and incomes of the voters, he’s already demonstrated he can enhance his popularity in a way none of his predecessors could. The trick is simple. He has convinced Russians that he’s clean, and that he’s determined to rid the economy of its dirt, starting at the top where everyone has known all along it started.
Thus, Primakov has thrown the famous tradeoff of 1996 back into the American beards. If the choice today is between corrupt leadership and economic misery, does the Clinton Administration still favour corruption as it did before? If it does, Primakov can reply that, so long as he is in charge, Russians will put up with more IMF-ordered spending cuts, lower real incomes, more cash for Russia’s foreign creditors, in a word more misery; because Primakov’s clean-up campaign allows reason to believe that the stealing will slow down, and one day stop.
That’s the message that was conveyed when the Procurator-General Yury Skuratov reemerged this week, with a renewed mandate. The more obdurately the Kremlin campaigns for his removal, the more it incriminates itself politically.
What does this mean for Michel Camdessus, the little barber the Clinton Administration employs at the IMF to give Primakov a haircut every month?
Camdessus is incapable of dealing with the policy choices Primakov has now put on the table. It will be much easier for Camdessus to go along with a scheme of debt deferment, debt sharing, and rescheduling. That could be dressed up to look like it’s a new IMF loan. But the Clinton Administration and the IMF don’t want to give Primakov a presidential endorsement yet so long as there is still time for Yeltsin to find an alternative.
In fact, if new IMF, World Bank and Japanese funds are agreed, they aren’t likely to add up to more than Primakov has promised to pay back to the IMF this year.
Every dollar Primakov nets over the $4.7 billion Russia should repay the IMF this year will be a contribution to his election in Yeltsin’s place. Every dollar that falls short of that figure is an inducement to Yeltsin to fire him. Even journalists with beards can do this arithmetic.
Dances With Bears » PRIMAKOV IS CLEAN SHAVEN
I am afraid Primakov seated next to Kissinger is not proof positive of your claim concerning his membership of the Club of Rome.
Maybe you should look through this listing !
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by John Helmer
Keep your enemy closer. So you think because they talk together and are members of the same club, they are close friends?
He was too intelligent and too patriot for US at the time. If you want a snitch and arselicker in the position to open up all the Russian coffers and wallets, you will get rid of an intelligent patriot yes.
You guessed it. In the part about Trump’s potentially Nobel “peacekeeping”; at least for now, because with the withdrawal of the United States, it is possible to trigger the heating of Europe, to proceed with something to sell us, to us, Europeans, as a “real war to defend Europe”, to mobilize us… We shall see.
“The US and Ukraine are working out a minerals deal. Putin and Trump are going to have a summit.”
Not just minerals, but rare elements that are key to the implementation of the fourth industrial revolution, let’s not forget. For the same, Putin offers “cooperation to our American partners.”
Let’s not forget: 2020 global plandemic (“it’s time for a great reset” with 4IR) -> 2022 “special military operation (and a march to denazify and defend Russia’s sovereignty along with the defense of traditional values) in response to Deepstate’s dirty proxy war (and attempted genocide over Donbass).”
Which generated millions of articles and videos, which in response led to billions of comments from ordinary commentators like us. I don’t include the hilarious mainstream story of Putler’s invasion, but it is also a basic, very important and integral part of the whole operation – it is the basis of the certification of “the war is on the left deepstate” (and, accordingly: “Donald wants to stop this” and said that he would stop it if elected…), “Putin is fighting them and opposing the WEF, by defending the traditional and normality”, etc. This was the biggest “proof” that the great reset was interrupted by the outbreak of old feuds, at the bottom of which are the American elite (in this case – the “left).
Therefore, it is most important to know as much information as possible about the issue, on the basis of which people can form a more accurate opinion. Then, when the info is on the light, omeone can continue to think about proxy warfare and even reinforce their opinion – free will. I don’t think so. There is no such thing as “the war is real and apart from a great reset; People, elites have always been at war and each of them has always wanted to take advantage in every sphere of development, so each of them develops their digital economy and industry (Great Reset) in their country/zone of influence, while at the same time they are at war with each other, as it has always been.”
There is no such thing, certainly not in the situation with Russia, Ukraine, the United States. Knock it out of your head, or continue to think and affirm it; Either way, it’s not true.
We have never come out of a great reset and these narratives that are spread to the target audiences are, in my opinion, much more important and I would say more ominously important, playing the role of preparing the minds and bringing these minds together of the different groups, preparing for the next stage with the more advanced technological order.
“The roadmap shows that the Neurоnet is preceded by Biometry-Net (2014-2024)
..
When Biometry-Net becomes commonplace, the “Neuronet Offensive” will begin (2025-2035), during which communication protocols based on digital models of mental processes will be developed and approaches to organizing a “collective consciousness” capable of “brainstorming” and solving tasks that require the concerted efforts of many people will be found.”
The dates are always inaccurate, GattakaMatrixTerminator is only in the movies, nothing has come true yet and BiometricNet/Web has not yet been built (but I am convinced that efforts are constantly being made in this biometric direction, as I see it).
But, without looking for a calf under the ox and seeing patterns in the chaos, what do you think: these super-influential, consistently disseminated messages (in this case – first about the “pandemic”, then about the “war”), usually in two extremely contradictory opinions (Putler Invasion vs. “Fight against Davos Deepstate”) and their answers generated in the peoples, emotions and thoughts, which are imprinted in billions of reactions on the Internet, Do they sound like something like “approaches to organizing a ‘collective consciousness’ capable of brainstorming and solving problems that require the concerted efforts of many people”?
Is it too much to say? Given that the main thing on the agenda is to digitize everything, which is the new techno-circumstance and the huge difference from the past, when “it was just business, for money, power and resources, and endless enmity between the elites”. Would it be likely that these billions of opinions on the Internet have been artificially challenged to serve as material through which to “develop communication protocols based on digital models of mental processes” (and other nasty-sounding things) as the basis for a future smart dystopia?
But there may not be such a thing and everything is legitimate – both the actions and the reactions to them. It may.. Just to say, to have it as a spicy probability, different from the obvious rational eternal reality of enmity and business between elites. (Occam was a mason, I’m sure, the masons’ chief hairdresser.)
..Putin and Trump are going to have a summit. “ After, the RF liberate all the Donbas, Odessa, Kharkov etc ?
No. Russia get the Russian speaking areas say Donbass. Trump get the rare metals areas, and Europe get a sick destroyed baby…..which uses Euro.
What they do with the gas I dont know. Fifty-fifty maybe.
The RF want a denazified, demilitarized and neutral Ukraine which they have consistently stated.The rare minerals fiasco is a red herring. The question is will the US/UK/ City of London accept Russia’s terms ?
Interesting reference to the NeuroWeb and the Future of the Collective Mind. Will definitely follow-up. Thanks.
And I thank you for finding it interesting. Neuronet is coming, as you say. It may not be, I hope not, but it is foreseen. And, if it is built gradually, more diligently since 2020, for example, through mega events that provoke reactions… People don’t come to the Internet by force. The events have violent elements, but not the entry into the Internet, it is for information, for communication, for a way out of the dark reality, etc. And after we had a training session with this event, with the violent elements, and we went seriously on the Internet, as if it had become a habit and much easier, as if out of habit, we went in to discuss the next event, which is not violent at all, unless you are in Ukraine/Russia.
Leaving this aside, such things as Neuronet cannot be done by force; They require the deliberate and voluntary participation, willingness and everything else that is required for a viable communication environment. A very important point. Forced – is absurd. Communication is over.
And the whole narrative that we get from almost the entire alt info space is about a violent future dystopia. Based on the experience during the plandemic, and plans on which assumptions are built.
CBDC, green order, etc., but Trump comes and stop CBDC, stop green order. In addition, trance and, respectively, anti-trans hysteria. Trump comes and restricts trance. Mm? And various people, mainly authors, and commentators, are trying to convince that it is the same under a different name. No, it’s not the same, it’s creating and solving a problem from the same group. So Trump and the other fake, Putin, will do nice things against the bad plan, which is spread as real among the people. But that’s not the plan.
The bad that is at the moment and which is like a threat is not meant to be, but some part, big part of it is intended to be actually limited, or in some cases stopped, by the good characters. And the target audience should feel it as good, because for them should only be pushed through certain things that will seem to them an improvement over the current situation and what they are indoctrinated with as a real threat. And they must be well, really well, so that the great evil can easily enter. Maybe something new, unknown, unrecognizable as a threat. Which can be something like Neuronet, for example. “For Good!”
If someone doesn’t see it, maybe they’re looking somewhere else. But here comes Trump and does some good things that the Democrats have done wrong; but if they are together, then it is something else, obviously with a purpose, obviously not good… But they, the authors, say that it is a path to the same. To what? Towards the widely accepted path to totalitarianism. A narrative, spread in 100% of the right-wing space, which went along with the drama of Trump’s return, and here – Trump’s return. But the rest, from the non-right or the left, the more critical ones, spin this narrative again, and now say “this is a path to the same totalitarianism”. Let’s see. Interesting times.
Sorry for off-topic
Mario Nawfal:
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1894713321422721070
EXCLUSIVE: MORE FOOTAGE OF CALIN GEORGESCU GETTING ARRESTED
He won a Presidential election, so they cancel the election and now arrest him.
‘Democracy’ in action in EU and NATO member: Romania
I think the whole thing’s disgusting.
And, yes, I predict a Nobel Peace Prize.
Just to add to the non-partisan disgust.
If it was good enough for “Obama,” it ought to be good enough for Trump.
Drive for show, putt for dough.
Nobel War is Peace Prize…
Maybe the new(of the people) Parliament as apposed to the existing Zelensky regime could look at something US did in Iraq.
Given the debt incurred under the Zelensky regime, I wonder if the International Notion of ‘Odious Debt’ might be a consideration?
Can you imagine the ab-dabs and screaming?
Odious Debt is not often mentioned in the media!!!! For a very good reason- it’s TERRIFYING to the parasites.
“The prime minister reiterated the UK’s commitment to Ukraine being on an irreversible path to NATO, as agreed by allies at the Washington summit last year.”
That was Starmer little over a week ago…
“ Donald is going to end the war in Ukraine..”
It would appear that some have not been paying very close attention to what is actually happening in the conflict in the UKraine ie the NATO/ US/ Ukrainian troops are suffering horrendous casualties so much so that the Ukrainian Nazis now, under pressure from the Americans + Brits, kidnap 18 years olds to used as cannon fodder.
Moreover, the West have almost depleted their military equipment coffers hence why the RF are attacking Ukrainian military infrastructure everywhere in Ukraine with very little resistance ( Patriot missiles conspicuous by their absence).
Indeed, the much vaunted, latest Wunderwaffen, F16s are rarer than Unicorns. Furthermore, the Ukrainian defences are crumbling all along the line of contact.
Lastly, the denazification, demilitarisation and neutrality of Ukraine are the fundamentals to any RF/ US peace agreement ( considering the failure on the West’s part of Minsk 1+2, Normandie and Istanbul agreements plus the statements from Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande stalling in order to prepare Ukraine militarily).
So the question is will the West agree to this ?
Will the RF agree to this ?
Nowhere in this article has these points been addressed.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-22625-putin-plays-peacemaker?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1351274&post_id=157863282&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=16w7sm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
I always read Simplicius when I want to get a realistic idea of the actions and intentions of the Russian authorities and the war. He is so valuable that even the Institute for the Rural Studies, to that Slavsquat, dedicated an article to him some time ago.
Elvira Nabiullina is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life
A reply to Simplicius’ daring defense of the Bank of Russia’s CBDC
Edward Slavsqat, AUG 11, 2023
There is a famous internet sage called Simplicius the Thinker, and recently he has been thinking tantalizing thoughts about Elvira Nabiullina and her centralized, programmable, traceable and completely wonderful digital tokens.
Simplicius “condemns” Central Bank Digital Currencies; he declares himself “about as anti-government/establishment/globalist as they come”. He expresses disdain for the central banking system, and agrees with the widely held belief that governments are duplicitous and undeserving of our trust.
But obviously the Bank of Russia’s CBDC is different from other CBDCs, and the Russian government is no ordinary government.
Simplicius “retain[s] a modest hope” that the Bank of Russia will use its centralized, programmable, traceable digital token to defeat the globalists. And we needn’t worry too much about the digital ruble being used as a tool of total control, because the Russian government “has a history of listening to its people’s demands quite a bit better than those in the West”.
…”
Continues in the link.. (By the way, Off-G, there’s already something new there for rare earths. I’m just saying.)
So the relationship you share is very valuable, Brian. Simplicius uses AI (if he itself is not AI), so he is very productive. And clear and precise; When I read only the beginning of the related article, I was immediately intrigued and click on his “Buy me coffee” to support the march of resistance.
“SITREP 2/26/25: Putin Plays Peacemaker as War Rages On
Simplicius
But there is strong evidence that Putin is, as always, being the consummate statesman and congenial host, extending a hand of friendship to position Russia as friendly and cooperative. It can be argued that another ulterior motive behind his offer was to cleverly debunk the recent pro-Ukrainian propaganda drive—stated by Zelensky himself, among others—that Russia is itself after nothing more than to “conquer Ukraine’s plentiful natural resources.” By offering to co-develop those resources, Putin deftly out-maneuvers this narrative, proving the war’s aims have nothing to do with some singular pilfering drive.
But the most important point is to understand that Putin represents merely the top-end surface octave of the Russian state’s true messaging apparatus. His job is to always appear amenable, gracious, cooperative, and non-vindictive. But the real underlying pulse of the messaging can be gleaned from foreign ministry and diplomatic statements lower down the totem pole rungs. That’s because Putin’s position represents a kind of holistic, universal topsoil layer of the apparatus whose job is to smooth things over, retain diplomatic connectivity and equilibrium, always presenting a certain ‘openness’ and inviting mien. The lower gears deliver the more ‘nuts and bolts’ hard truths of policy, which are meant to color the official positions.
In this case, we must listen to these direct-to-the-ground messengers to establish the true details of any given narrative or position. We have several statements that point to the total refutation of the alarmist narrative which accuses Putin or Russia of some kind of capitulation…”
Regarding whether the RF can trust the US and it’s masters and whether the US and it’s masters will accept the RF’s core concerns ie denazification, demilitarisation and neutrality ( no membership of any Western military alliance and no Western troops in the Ukraine).
Here is what the Russians state about trust and possible peace agreements with the US and it’s masters.
“ MOSCOW, February 25. /TASS/. Russia and the US have a long way to go to restore trust after all the difficulties of the past few years, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov stated.
When asked whether Russian leader Vladimir Putin trusted the Americans when he offered them cooperation on rare-earth elements, Peskov said: “We trust ourselves. In
order to say if we trust the Americans or not, we need to go a long way.”
“We’ll have to develop measures to restore and strengthen mutual trust. We’ll have to take numerous small steps towards each other, which will help create and restore the atmosphere of trust. Much damage was done in the past four years and much was destroyed. It’s impossible to rebuild it all in an instant. We have a lot to do,” the Russian presidential spokesman pointed out. “
https://tass.com/politics/1918659
He certainly smoothed over the implementation of co-n-vid to Russia when he put that yellow hazmat suit on.
Just the same as D-J-Warpseed-T and Cough-Cough ICU Bound BoJo
etc
etc
etc
No wonder he’s always laughing, like a fisherman’s fish taking it hook line and sinker or, simply, wondering what he’ll do with his latest $Billion acting role backhander.
It looks good with him. After the end of his term, he may participate in the continuation of “Contagion”, or “Armageddon.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c4bP7oyDYI
Yes, I saw this “article” when it first appeared as Usual Eddies “style” is copy and paste throw in a few miscellaneous facts and omit the original Simplicus source or misrepresentation of surveys is other favourite tactic.
Q what do Starmer, Macron and Zelensky have in common ? A. there all Russian bashers.
A bit further up this line you stated
..”to orient myself about upcoming realities, and also how the scripted confrontation of a formal/mainstream narrative..”
I would suggest you try to read more Russian history !
Regerding the UK’s “Defence Spending” it’s worth reading Richard Norths Turbulant Times blog, where we can see much of the recent rhetoric from Starmer, the media, and military talking heads, amounts to gaslighting.
The touted “increased” funding is already earmarked, and doesn’t make much of a dent in unfunded capital equipment programmes already in the pipeline.
https://www.turbulenttimes.co.uk/news/front-page/defence-smoke-and-mirrors/
Dear Off Guardian expert authors who do great journalism by reading twitter and msm accounts and the contributors who also visit alt media blogs to get the alternative view
Could you kindly show me videos as there is millions of mobile phones
of this war happening.
I would like to see high riz footage.
Not a difficult thing to ask for.
I await the response.
How about getting a Telegram account and see for yourself?
We are poor, but have a good heart.
hardly proof.
Is that you, Miles Mathis? 😜
“Peace Deal” or “Piece Deal” ?
‘Peace Deal’ or ‘Piece Deal’ ?
If Trump secures/bribes/coerces a ‘Piece deal’ Trump might send
US troops into Ukrania to “protect American Interests”…
“Give US corporations control of your mineral wealth – or we’ll let
the Big Bad Russian Wolf gobble you up !”
Though Zelensky knows that for thirty pieces of silver the US will
betray Ukrainia – The US Has Form…
It would be really unfair for the “funding partner” of a war to have to declare what they want in return for their funding in advance… it would show what the “war” was really about.. so best say what you want in return for the funding when it’s too late.
Remember, the “free world” (a) robbed Russia of its foreign reserves (b) failed in its economic and military assault. Does allowing US to extract more wealth as minerals make sense? Who will repair the blown-up gas pipeline?
US has made Treaties since Sitting Bull, and for some strange reasons they all jumped in because they were hoping.
Trump is under pressure to make good on his bombastic promises to end the war in Ukraine. But NATO drank the Kool-Aid and they are unwilling to consider the prospects of peace. Trump will continue to pressure Ukraine’s clown president to take over the rare earth minerals because the US is so far behind China in these resources. (Always follow the money/resources.)
The truth is, the US cannot I repeat cannot compete technologically or militarily as long as China holds a near monopoly on these resources! This is why the US will not win a war with China unless of course they resort to nuclear exchanges which will be disastrous for all of us.
How will the military industrial complex react? How will they survive? How will the money grubbers in Congress make millions on insider knowledge if there are no wars?! I know start a war somewhere else. Plus the US is gaining more market share of LNG in Europe now that the pipelines have been sabotaged. I wonder who really cut those lines? Take a guess its’ initials are USA!
How will an end to the war effect the US economy which is in onerous and unsustainable debt? Is a war a way to get out from under a collapsing financial economic system?
Good news:
-. More European slaves recognize their real masters, despite all the propaganda.
-. Argentina (and US withdraw) from WHO.
-. Tunisia cuts off communications to IMF.
If you think back to before this whole “SMO” business started the general tenor of politicians and our media — echoing them — was that Russia was weak and of no account so we could just bully them around and they’d have to take it. After the SMO started the tune changed somewhat, echoing the Gulf Wars where our vastly superior weaponry, intelligence and tactics along with economic pressure would cause Russia to cave in after a few weeks and with any luck precipitating ‘regime change’ in the process.
Anyone who has even a slight grasp of the history of this region would know that this just wasn’t going to happen. Unfortunately, between the closing down of any alternative viewpoints and the general labeling of anyone who did get through the media wall as a “victim of Russian disinformation” the idea that plucky little Ukraine was not just holding its own against Big Bad Russia and its nasty bully of a dictator Putin but was going to carry the day. So we ended up with a money pit on our hands — more and more stuff got shipped to Ukraine, large numbers of their population — “refugees” — came west and settled** and the war became one of attrition and propaganda.
The economic consequences for the EU were dire — loss of markets, cheaper energy, large numbers of people to subsidize, materiel to provide, all proved a major drag on Europe’s economy (which wasn’t that great to start with). Meanwhile, Russia, which had many years to find ways to protect its economy, thrived. (It didn’t help the West that China’s leaders aren’t stupid, they know that if we succeeded in breaking Russia then they’d definitely be next so they had no incentive to isolate Russia.) So now we’re at a bit of a stalemate. Ukraine is tapped out, militarily. NATO can’t commit to ‘boots on the ground’ — at least not openly — because the populations, already fed up with the way that their leaders are off playing foreign adventures instead of solving the numerous domestic problems, just won’t cooperate. So we’re at a bit of a stand-off. There’s a need to shut this thing down but equally there has to be a bit of face saving. Hence the ‘minerals deal’. (Too bad that most of the mineral and industrial wealth is in the East — Russia. But that’s a problem for another day.)
**In one of many echoes from WW2 the notion of depopulating Ukraine — the “bread basked of Europe” — has come up before. Our journalists are likely a younger bunch so don’t recognize place names, policies and so on from that era but I’m pretty sure there’s still quite a few people floating around the area who were kids when “The Great Patriotic War” was going down. (Here it doesn’t help that ‘our lot’ are trying to erase that history, “1984” style!)
Russia cant continue to use that trick of Scorched Earth Tactics and the Siberian winter.
One day this trick will be outdated and then…………………………. 😡 .
I think that there are two “iceberg” structures in the US. The one “tipped” by Donald Trump is now in command. Its end game is, perhaps, an omnipotent, continental, globally hegemonic, economically and militarily dominant, colossus. Questions related to Canada, Greenland et al will need to be sorted out and worked through, but Europe will definitely be broken and dismantled – along with its “gilded class” – they’re a bunch of filthy degenerates anyway . . .
What?
No gilded class, no degenerates in USia?
Look again.
It can be hard to understand reality if you don’t have a mirror.
what is whataboutism?
The US degens are going to gitmo
That cannot be known, crystal ball gazing stuff. What you never see in this wokery to question how much money was stolen in the name of defence under Biden, Obama, Clinton or Bush. Trump got informed that U$ 350 billion was send to Ukraine from Washington; Zelensky says Ukraine received only 100 billion. That is re searchable, that would be actual journalism, no!
Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2025-02-24. 90% trial participants have AEs from CV Replicon mRNA, gets Euro approval anyway – grave mistake (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).
There already is a peace deal. It’s called the Budapest Memorandum. It will be implemented.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances comprises three substantially identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994, to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). The three memoranda were originally signed by three nuclear powers: Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom.[1] China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[2]
According to the three memoranda,[8] Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively removing all Soviet nuclear weapons from their soil, and that they agreed to the following:
1. Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).[9]
2. Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they “should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”.
5. Not to use nuclear weapons against any non–nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear weapon state.[5]: 169–171 [10][11]
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.[12][13]
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See:
Michael Pompeo: War, Ukraine, and a Global Alliance for Freedom
Jun 24, 2022
Hudson Institute
Putin’s war on Ukraine is a pivotal event in post-Cold War politics; this unjust war seeks to annihilate the existence of a free and independent country. What does this portend for world democracies? How does it impact America’s ongoing top strategic priority that centers on the existential threat from China? Why should a machinist in Wichita or a schoolteacher in Des Moines care about what happens in the Donbas? Hudson’s Distinguished Fellow, the 70th U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, will deliver a major speech to answer all these questions followed by a conversation with Distinguished Fellow Walter Russell Mead.
Transcript:
https://www.hudson.org/events/2122-virtual-event-war-ukraine-and-a-global-alliance-for-freedom62022
Global Alliance for Freedom??
Is that the old Inherent Resolve Freedom NATO Coalition of 70 countries who attacked and invaded Iraq to make peace, or is a new bs organisation?.
It probably has no official existence, but I see it as being the counterpoise to Kissinger’s Belt & Road project – a kind of opposing togetherness. I see it as the latest iteration of Pax Americana.
See:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org
The corporations want in.
Minerals, gas, oil(?), farmland, exploitable labour.
You name it, they LUST after it.
And where do politicians of all persuasions go after they’ve satiated their authoritarian addictions?
Corporations of course.
Cosy as.
I’m not quite happy about “lust”, although if they were human that would be the exact word. The thing is that corporations are not human. Don’t be misled by the fact that they are composed of human employees and directors; it’s their structure that counts, and that is purely inorganic. A computer chip is made of various chemical elemnts in a certain arrangement; but it’s not those elements that do the computation. It’s the structure in which they are arranged.
For all intents and purposes, any corporation is as human as a Terminator – and as much to be trusted.
3 large US multi-nationals have bought 17 million ha of Ukrainian agricultural land, out of a total land bank of 40 million ha. -Australian Nat. Review 2022-06
The breadba$ket of Europe?
So the Russians cant touch that.
Thats why Kremlin is only bombing cinemas in Ugledar, old frontline in Donbass, and pick pointed transformer stations.
To be wide open for negotiations:
” So the Russians cant touch that.”
BOOM!!! Ukraine’s Largest Lithium Deposit Falls Under Russian Control! What Will BlackRock and Kyiv Do Next?
BOOM!!! Ukraine’s Largest Lithium Deposit Falls Under Russian Control! What Will BlackRock and Kyiv Do Next? – amg-news.com – American Media Group
6: What degree of influence is Ukraine’s government going to have on this deal?
Because so far it looked bonkers with Trump claiming that Zelensky in effect had the war started. So why do Ukraine the courtesy at all?
Just picture war coming to your nation due to the sheer unluck of it being where two world powers are clashing, then even getting blamed for it.
And then getting your national mineral riches sold, bought and paid for without any say in it.
Funny you bring up money, as someone has unearthed a nugget worth considering, considering the financial consequences of war.
During the Vietnam War dollars were flooded into the country to 1, keep the war machine going, and to try confiscate the banking system and convert it to a dollar based system.
It eventually failed, but apparently these dollars wound up in French banks and were quickly brought back to America and exchanged for Gold at $35/oz. As the nations gold supply dwindled, and in an attempt to recoup some loses, in 1964 the gvt removed the silver from public circulation and by 1971 had to shut down the gold window completely along with silver in coinage.
Now to the Ukraine, who America apparently gave or lent some $500 billion to in the past few years, but the currency circulating in todays Ukraine economy is the Euro, which is why America is asking for European accounting for this.
And even bigger, after the Peace accords are settled and Ukraine does not join the union or nato, all those Euros are to be sent back to the union where the French president just politely told Trump that 60% of the Euros will stay in the Ukraine, Trump questioned this and now we can see why they were left out of the sovereign arrangements, and what is Europe going to do w/ all that returned money now that the war is over?
Interesting times indeed.
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Thank you. Don’t you all get tired of all the pointless speculation?
I sure do.
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AI Lit Critic…
Translates as “AI got nothing better to do” ?
Was a song by The Police whose drummer was related to Miles Copeland of the CIA. Sting was a big fan of Aleister Crowley, there’s a picture of him reading Crowley in William Ramsey’s ‘Children of the Beast’.
You too Brute.