Ukraine: Is this genuine jingoism?
Kit Knightly
There was a fight in the Oval Office!
Former actor and comedian President Zelensky and former reality television presenter Donald Trump went at it.
Trump made fun of his clothes, Zelensky warned that war would come to the US if Ukraine fell and called Vice-President JD Vance “bitch”.
Zelensky disrespected the office of the President or was bullied by big meanies depending on which color you voted for.
It’s all very serious, real stuff.
As serious and real as the traumatised faces Zelenksy and his First Lady were making during their Vogue photoshoot in 2022.
The track-suited former “peace candidate” then either left the Whitehouse voluntarily or was told to leave, again depending who you voted for.
He then immediately flew to England for an “emergency last minute” meeting with Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer and a totally off-the-cuff audience with His Majesty.
Then all the leaders of Western Europe – plus Justin Trudeau, who is still in office despite resigning weeks ago – had a big old struggle session with the new “leader of the free world”, and decided they don’t want to be friends with America anymore!
All this was impromptu and extempore.
Like the perfectly identical messages posted to the official Twitter accounts of multiple European political leaders later that day at almost the exact same time.
The leaders of Europe are shocked – shocked! – that Trump would treat a “hero” like Zelensky so shabbily and will gladly pay to guarantee Ukraine’s security.
Starmer has even offered to put British boots on the ground and planes in the air to secure a ceasefire:
The jingoism is at a fever pitch, with the usual warmongers and reality-deniers salivating at the idea of young men who don’t know each other shooting each other for no reason.
This is what everybody wants you to think about. It has flooded the news and social media world like nothing has since the early days of Covid. And, not since those early Covid days, has the truth/coverage ratio been so low.
Even more so than most news, no reality makes it into the discourse, rather there is simply an endless exchanges of one set of myths banging against another. Two teams fighting with invisible swords.
Nobody is even mentioning nuclear war, except in stories about surviving it or rebuilding after it, which is weird.
But what do we think is really going on? Are we really headed to World War III?
Or is this the managed-decline of America is simply taking another step forward while the financial burden of the forever-war necessary to secure a dystopian global state is being shifted to the EU?
Whether that’s the only aim or not, it’s certainly what’s about to happen.
Predictably, all the “anti-billionaire”, “save the planet”, “eat the rich” pretend liberals are cheering it on.
Because they don’t really care about the billionaires who own Boeing or Lockheed Martin raking in their tax revenue, they don’t really care about the impact of war on the environment, and they don’t really care about the corrupt rich making bank on both sides of the supposed “conflict”.
They are just Pavlov’s Pundits, conditioned to disapprove of everything Donald Trump says he wants just because he says he wants it. Even peace.
Which isn’t to say Trump really wants peace. But you know what I mean.
Also, I wouldn’t rule out a “nuclear near miss” or a “limited nuclear engagement” to try and scare people into global cooperation or something. When the media gets this hysterical, everything is on the table.
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Jingoism: extreme chauvinism or nationalism marked especially by a belligerent foreign policy
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jingoism
The term applies to Putin and Trump (especially 47), but not currently to Europe. With regard to Europe, it’s so far put up a very feeble defence of its own territory. There’s probably some European chauvinism, but there’s been very little “national” cohesion and its policy has been neither “belligerent” nor “foreign”. But maybe this will change!
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Claude Malhuret, Senator of the French Republic
English transcript:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dfHP7UdIBkNLCVS75IzE4LEg-XgX2sb2T4JWfmRL6CY/edit?tab=t.0
I’ve tried twice over the last 24 hours, but this video seems to be getting blocked in pending.
Thank you. The accompanying text was:
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Trump’s Reichstag
The Ketchup King was saved by God, apparently. Quite why God didn’t cause the “shooter” to fall off his ladder and break his arm, a far less spectacular miracle, is not explained!
Without having read all the comments, perhaps it is just another step on the totalitarian tiptoe towards Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia, as ‘warned about’ by that nice Mr Eric Arthur Blair in his 1949 novel.
Sami is an old moderator dog. Sami has heard everything that a moderator can hear, absolutely all threats. And he knows from experience that these are words of faith, threats that never come true. So he’s calm. He knows that it will always be like this. That’s good.
The truly powerful entice, they don’t threaten, because they don’t ever need to. Threats only ever advertise weakness.
Hear the cry of the freedom cat, verses the prisoner dog.
at the end of that performance Trump said this will make good TV.
WWE argument and the only thing missing was a close line, body slam and hulk ripping his shirt.
true. Trump did say this will make good TV.
Zelensky reminds of the British Crown’s old use of jews as whipping boys. Being paid for taking the guilt of the Royal family’s failures.
>Also, I wouldn’t rule out a “nuclear near miss” or a “limited nuclear engagement” to try and scare people into global cooperation or something.
Sorry, you lost me there. How could you scare people into global cooperation with a “nuclear near miss” or a “limited nuclear engagement”? Those things and global cooperation don’t exactly go together.
NATO’s 70 countries Inherent Resolve Freedom Coalition?
Bombing Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Ukraine, into peaces.
It goes absolutely fine, and Russia always wanted to join this
Deficiencyehh Defence Organisation and are still wagging even today.Go Home Gringo, but take me with you…………………..LOL!
They’re All Clowns: European Leaders Facing A New Political RealitySouth Front
Brilliant article hitting the situation as is from South Front.
Do you mean from South Park?
It doesnt matter to me whether Einstein, Santa Clause, or a little 9 year old boy is saying it or writing it, as long as it is true, and excuse me but this article is a true picture of the situation.
But it matters to you who says it!
Read up on the Milgram test how ordinary people like you continue to torture innocent people because Authority in a white coat tell you to do it.
Even when the man begins to scream of pain. Even when the man lies on the floor un-conscience. Because Authority told you so.
Have a nice time back on MSM!
LOL, can’t even read the article because the website is blocked in Europe, with a disclaimer page that says this is because the legal action against Pirate Bay… except, then it lists a series of blocked domains, the first of which is RT – yes, definitely a “piracy” website. Political censorship of the Internet is already well under way here…
Try the telegram channel.
SouthFront: Analysis & Intelligence – Telegram
I figured that the ‘minerals deal’ was just an opportunity for Ukraine to do a bit of face saving, a way to salvage a something resembling a win/win from an untenable situation. Ukraine has only been holding out because of NATO backing which, effectively, means US backing (you don’t think some podunk state like Estonia could be so belligerent towards their neighbor without chanting “Article 5!” over and over?). The US isn’t interested in proving bottomless backing and Euro governments are increasingly desperate to keep their skeptical populations in line. This leaves us with the prospect of an ugly strategic defeat in what is effectively a civil war, something that’s dealing a blow to our credibility — and prosperity — just when we’re facing a truly serious threat from China.
No, its not that China’s going unleash armies to roll over the rest of the world. They don’t have to. Its their economic power that’s a threat — the moment they gain ascendance over us (that’s us, the US) our $34 trillion in accumulated debt is going to bite us in the ass big time. We’ll join Europe in a poverty stricken society not unlike a traditional Third World country while non-debt based economies — which includes Russia, BTW — will be doing just fine (and “the rest of the world” will also be doing OK, at least far better than they would under the old ex-colonial regimes).
Seen in this light playing Cold War in Europe is just plain dumb. We should have never allowed Ukraine to happen in its present form. The alternative — a state build from a coalition of provinces that was militarily non-aligned but economically allied with the EU — would have been a true win/win for everyone……except the Cold Warriors who would have been out of a job.
Trump had the Trump card. Zelensky didn’t have any cards. So Zelensky should have been grateful. Very thankful. So grateful in fact, that there should have been a “thank you Mr Trump” in every sentence. Otherwise — just plain ingratitude.
Obama sent ‘sheets’ (plus blankets & pillows & hot water bottles?), whereas Trump sent Javelins. So Zelensky should have said ‘thank-you’. And kept repeating it. That was all that was expected by the US side. No more and certainly no less.
So no minerals deal. The resources grab will have to wait for another day. The day when Zelensky learns to be more appreciative of “strong leader” Mr Trump.
Also giving Vance plenty of time to locate Ukraine on the map
https://apnews.com/article/trump-zelenskyy-vance-transcript-oval-office-80685f5727628c64065da81525f8f0cf
ChatGPT’s riposte (given the lack of human response, other than mindless downvotes)…
It’s curious how the narrative shifts when discussing international relationships and the expectations of gratitude. While it’s true that Trump provided military aid in the form of Javelins, which is significant, it’s also essential to recognize that such support is part of the complex dynamics of foreign policy—one that involves mutual interests and obligations, not a simple transaction where gratitude is the sole currency.
Zelensky is not a subordinate awaiting benevolence; he is the democratically elected leader of a sovereign nation facing an existential threat. Expecting him to express perpetual gratitude reduces an important geopolitical relationship to a patron-client dynamic, which is both simplistic and disrespectful. Leaders are expected to advocate for their countries, not simply to sing praises to those who offer assistance.
Moreover, the comparison between the aid provided by Obama and Trump overlooks the broader context of U.S.-Ukraine relations, including the ongoing challenges Ukraine faces and the need for consistent support, not just in arms but in diplomacy, economic stability, and institutional development. It’s not about counting thank-yous; it’s about fostering a partnership that can withstand the challenges posed by aggressive neighbors.
As for the minerals deal, let’s not conflate gratitude with geopolitical strategy. It’s essential for nations to negotiate resources based on mutual benefits rather than on the whims of individual leaders. Understanding that complexity is crucial for anyone discussing international affairs, including those who might need to brush up on their geography before making sweeping statements about countries and their leaders.
If you’re engaged with an artificial feedback loop, it’s probably best to just stay in that space and see where it takes you rather than opening up the void to others (unless that is your intention). Adding further complexity is not going to solve anything.
Well, I just kinda threw it out there as food for thought. There are still those who respond to ideas per se rather than to personas or vain attempts at attaining upvotes to boost their otherwise lack of credentials.
Reaching out to those with some sort of back education of sorts. They do still exist, I believe.
Credentials, what are these? Certification for adhering to an agenda. Yes education helps, but depends on how one uses it.
Sure. So where’s your contribution?
My contribution to the topic in hand is that the whole debacle appears to be highly contrived.
Dear Mr. Knightly, to answer your question about genuinity; the simple answer is ‘no.’
Nothing is genuine about any of the mass-mediatized spectacles coming out of the mouth of politicians from Washigton, Bruxels or Kiev. All is designed to normalise their fleecing in the minds of the ignorant plebs… and it works wonderfully well.
The real question is this: how stupid are the so-called pundits and critics who continue to fall for the legerdemain, in spite of repeated proofs of their governments’ utter disregard for truth and human values.
Hear it again from Karl Rove’s mouth:
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
‘The real question is this: how stupid are the so-called pundits and critics who continue to fall for the legerdemain, in spite of repeated proofs of their governments’ utter disregard for truth and human values.’
Thank you for the Karl Rove quote.
The so-called pundits are not stupid. I don’t think they actually believe anything they are punditting about. I can’t think of one single credible,honest or reliable ‘pundit’. They are very well paid and have mortgages, families,lifestyles, careers and reputations to think about. They will follow any script they are paid to follow. In my humble opinion.
Any peace deal between Ukraine and Russia should stipulate that Zelensky wear a condom while playing the piano (prevent the spread of cooties and covid).
Sounds practically the same as Putin storming down the photoshoot co-n-vid ward with his yellow hazmat suit on.
Two peas from exactly the same Global Mafia pod.
It appears Zalensky was put up to the provocations he made before Trump and Vance. The “reactions” very much appeared to be choreographed. This is a last ditch effort to prop up the corpse of NATO and the War Party.
That’s the impression I had. It was pure pantomime.
It was not.
Its because Liberals are so used to fake, lies and choreographed reality, they cant see anything else, especially not the real deal.
They go wrong about Trump. Trump is a Jackson, anti-centralisation and decentralisation.
As Trump said, “what do America do in Ukraine? Ukraine dont jeopardize or benefit America in any way, because we have the Atlantic Sea between us. Let Europe do and pay for their neighbourship or misery with Ukraine.
This statement is a true Jackson statement because this is the factual truth about the situation.
Jackson was of the opinion the most wars happened because of money, why the solution to end wars must be money. Trump has the same entrance.
But Liberal idiots cant get it if it is not a lie and choreographed !
Being robbed of ones money can start a war, and those are the things one never hears about, until the start of the war.
To clarify, I mean the Liberal Establishment’s “reaction” was choreographed, not that Trump or Vance’s response to Zalensky was choreographed. I think they were genuinely surprised by Zalensky’s irrational statements. I think it’s clear that Zalensky coached on what to say.
My apology. Well, anyway we cleared it all up then. All the best.
He struck me as being genuinely irritated by Zelenski ( the cokehead is an insufferably arrogant poseur, after all) but I doubt we’ll see Trump’s Jacksonism in relation to Gaza.
Yes this is an area where I too am not in Trumps camp. I dont understand much of what and why they are doing down there around Israel in the last 70 years. Ugly ugly, ugly bugly.
Trump’s “arrogant poseur” is the old John Wayne way of behave. The cowboy style. Well some of us like Country and Western. Dance with the one who brought you. https://yandex.ru/video/preview/15257126310510576563
Or maybe the ‘former actor and comedian and former reality television presenter’ stayed true to their former careers and both got the mutually desired result: the continuation of this proxy war…
I’m guessing the following is what you call “Trump Derangement Syndrome”:
A work colleague who always considered herself “Left” is posting me links to someone called Volodymyr Vlad Kunko, who starts with,
So rigorously checked stuff then!
What follows is all about how Trump is a “Putin stooge”. And fretting about how stuff “from every single american citizens account, doesn’t end up in Putin’s files” and how “(w)hoever has that info can potentially wipe out every dime we have and can potentially fund a world takeover”.
And,
After which,
Interesting. Trump “doing what Russia wanted” is doing what any genuine Leftist would want. But because it’s Trump… it’s EVIL FAR RIGHT!
Trump is “weakening America” etc. This is the old Right Wing rant! Trump “is quietly selling the country to the Kremlin.”
And someone responds with,
Well that’s what happens when you “go with your gut” …. or, to be more precise, fall for talk about “going with your gut”.
This is an unbelievably successful psyop in which Trump and Putin have been given a makeover that has effectively turned every would-be-Leftist into a criminally gullible reincarnation of the Old Right!
I received a ‘transcript’ of this earlier today from a friend who saw it on his FB.
Impressive rant but, as you point out, no substance.
The poster talks of all the evidence regarding Putin’s ownership of Trump. Makes me wonder – why did Hillary Clinton go to all the trouble of paying for the Steele dossier when she could have just rolled out all this abundant ‘evidence’?
Don’t get me wrong – I don’t trust Trump at all. But not because I believe he’s Putin’s puppet. A lot of people love him because he’s better than the last guy (a really really low bar) and because he’s getting rid of some mad shit (low hanging fruit). The big test (imo) will come when the questions of digital ID and digital currency are on the table. Let’s see what he does at that point.
On the upside, it’s almost as entertaining as the flat earth psyop.
It’s the old “America is being taken over by the commies” stuff which the Left used to (justifiably) laugh at. Now they’re falling for it.
As if America could be controlled by anyone else. They’re interfering everywhere else. They even interfered in Russia and openly boasted about it!
“which the Left used to (justifiably) laugh at.”
Not the sort of Left who now hate Putin – they were enthusiastic Cold Warriors. Who took the UK into NATO?
Check out the MAGA guys warning that America has long been an occupied nation. Zionists are its rulers, and are using the dumb goyim to advance their megalomaniac plans for the world.
So you’re thinking President ‘Love Israel’ Trump is meaningfully leading an opposition against the evil world-domineering zionists? Are you genuinely suggesting this?
I’ve seen Trump speaking recently and, I must honestly say (for the sake of sanity here), he didn’t really seem up to it, ngl. He’s not the most articulate or self aware chap, you know, and I’d probably have to bet on the Zionists on this one… AND I kinda hope he IS just a puppet figurehead because that seems like the least demoralising scenario somehow. Do you see what I mean?
Do you think he’s got some advanced moves up his sleeve and he’s just bluffing this out, playing a really long game??
I’m just trying to balance an influx of pro-MAGA sentiment here by asking a few questions. A2
I_left_the_left. Nick. hunt, and his other names has a blog.
Ask him about his blog 😊
Oh there’s a blog?
There are a number of people in the Health Freedom movement who go on and on about “Communist China”, and the fact that THEY are wanting to take over America.
Which makes me laugh given that, what, at least 50% if not more of what we wear and utilize every single day is manufactured in China.
I know a number of Chinese people. A few Russian. My gut tells me they have no desire to take over America.
My gut tells me that when it comes to oligarchy, there are no allegiances to nation states.
Actually, virtually all of our (figure-) heads of state are really controlled by the Globalist Elite.
Trump just imposed more sanctions on Russia. Why would he do this if he is owned by KGB and Putin?
It is as if it is completely impossible that another political ideology (MAGA) than the Leftist Global bs.
…(MAGA) could be in play, than the….
Sorry, what delusional fools may think is not interesting, it’s sad. Ridiculing their lunacy is akin to scolding a child who berates Santa Claus for not reading his mail.
Is there not also an argument that if such nonsense goes unchallenged, then there is a danger it could simply be accepted by a lot of those who read it?
It seems to me that the entire purpose of all the censorship we are seeing (historically but even more so now) is to stop nonsense being challenged. If they take the concept of challenge that seriously, perhaps we should too.
Totally agree – an example was the censorship of people challenging the patent nonsense of Covid.
Spot on.
We could also add net zero, trans cultism, replacement migration, and on and on. We could write such lists all day.
They really don’t like being challenged!
Gut instinct is greed, close to sex, ego, conflict with ‘others’.
A bit up is a better spot, intuition from behind the heart. Sympathy for and with others, mutual vibes.
I remain unclear exactly who the term “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is making fun of – the supporters or the detractors. After reading all the quotes you give, I must conclude it’s a synonym for “Watching Rachel Maddow.”
It applies to both. Woke and Anti-Woke – they’re the mirror image of each other.
I think what we are seeing now is a Third Act of the global reset. The First Act started in March of 2020 with a fake pandemic and kept us all busy arguing wether there is a virus or not etc.In the meantime “They” started building a new digital global system. The Second Act started in February of 2022 when “pandemic” smootly turned into war between Russia and Russia (Okraina). This war kept and still keeping us busy arguing on who started the war . In the meantime “They” were very busy building the new digital world order. The Third Act , in my opinion, is “Trump-The Saviour” act. Needles to say, we are busy arguing about everything Trump touches. In the meantime “They” are busy as fcuking hell building digital concentration camp for all of us. 500 bln dollars are being invested in digital infastructure and data centers in the US. Russia and Ukraine are more advanced in digitalisation than most countries in the world.People are losing their minds arguing who won the showdown in The Oval Cabinet- two American Eagles or coke snorking cocky cock in military pajamas from Team Okraina. I’m not arguing- I claim , that “peace deal” was sabotaged by that cock in pajamas.Because it was his role in this drama act within a drama act. It looks that “They” decided, that there should be no peace or deal this time. Remember- “They” are still building the new world order. They will stop at nothing. If “They” will decide that for acchieving their goal they need much bigger war- “They” will make it, one way or another.Because , you know- “when all else fails- they take you to war”. In the meantime, gates of digital extermination camp is slowly but surely closing behind our backs.
Yes, this is (and is still at the beginning; in no case do the plans stop only at the “soft” stage of digitalization). This is the reality, but for many of the smarter people it is difficult, because to stop at an obvious reality in the presence of mental strength is like for a healthy athlete to do nothing. Therefore, for them, stories with a lot of background and many different options for developments, making sense of the current state, etc., within the framework of the conflict, are more reliable. Great Reset, 4P, are boring, old, already chewed gum. People get tired of it.
The war industry cannot wait indefinitely, regardless of any “pandemic”. If there are no brown people to kill and Whites must die, so be it.
They are Zionists.
The nuclear near miss is my prediction as well. Let’s hope we are not correct.
And yes, this “hate Trump at all costs” thing has gotten silly beyond description. Hate anything he does, anything he wants, anything he thinks. He is Hitler, and Hitler is pure evil (even if he liked dogs).
You’re an idiot, Todd.
Mein Kampf reads like measured philosophy compared to the ranting of the TDS brigade.
Sure, thats why you left the left. They were not radical Socialismus enough like Hitler.
But the moneymaker and capitalist Trump……… 😩 😫 😖 😭 😖 .
Hitler so cheesy.
how about some one else,
Pol Pot?
Claim main point
Agree with main point
I find it particularly important that in the many opinions – both here and everywhere – the incident with Ukraine is almost completely detached from the plandemic and its stated goal; It is separate, it is another case. It is obvious that the big holiday and party, which began with the appetizer in Ukraine in February 2022 and continued with the big show that everyone was waiting for – the big bad one, Israel – was received gladly, for the simple reason that it appeared as a return to the familiar waters of renewed old feuds between the clear and clearly ranked according to their badness enemies, A Great Respite after the extraordinary, confusing, global-dystopian plandemic case.
The people took a breath; And those who have more knowledge of the relevant cases of enmity (which were not actually renewed, but only their screenings based on old tapes were released to amuse the peoples), breathed much more. “Plandemic”, “Great Reset”, “everyone is together”, accumulated such a painful fatigue that The Great Respite from them was taken up by the most well-read and awake minds with great delight. And just as no one refuses the fruit of his successful diligent intellectual labor, this and every other fruit will be receive according to the same principle.
Following the theatrics referred above, I find it interesting that Starmtrooper is talking about ‘putting boots on the ground’.
As a result of this pronouncement, many are predicting that if any of our (or indeed any NATO member’s) troops get killed, Article 5 will come into effect and NATO will have to go to war with Russia.
Perhaps there is somebody here with a greater understanding of this than I and can maybe clarify, but if foreign troops are on the ground in Ukraine, without their parent nations having declared war on Russia, doesn’t that make them no better than mercenaries, under what is hilariously called International Law?
Furthermore, if Putin kills them (not personally – obviously) but does not attack the actual nations themselves, how does Article 5 apply? I thought Article 5 meant that if one NATO member is attacked, all of NATO responds. But if the soldiers are not “legally” war fighting, is there a grey area?
Not that I would expect the msm et al to mention this. Which is why I mention it here.
it seems to me that “advisors” from NATO countries have already been killed by Russian missile strikes, but this is not news that’s fit to print in our neck of the woods
I thought so too.
And yet no Article 5 retaliations.
Maybe it wasn’t the time. Odd how this whole ‘International Law’ thing works.
If I’m understanding it correctly, Article 6 states that the attacks must take place on the territory of a NATO member, which Ukraine is not…
That would be my understanding as well.
And yet we have senior EU figures (in particular) and others openly talking about it. Then again, it seems only the thinnest veneer of an excuse is all that is required to set a plan in motion these days.
Fun times.
Then there’ll be a false-flag.
That’s what I’m thinking, too. Also: isn’t it true that the Russian Federation now supposedly has some mutual-defense pact with Iran? This could be become a two-front war real quick … and probably a nuclear war, sooner or later.
I believe so. They also have their trading bloc with both Iran and China.
Murky water for NATO to be paddling in.
A well written and thought-provoking article.
While the theater proceeds and the band plays on, there is lurking in the recesses of the apron a shadowy figure carrying a scythe bearing the name “Zelensky.” This “theater” will have very real consequences for Zelensky (who may very well have it coming).
Think I’m hopelessly naive? Can you say Saddam Hussein? Muammar Gaddafi? Patrice Lumumba? Salvador Allende? These geopolitical “theatrics” end up becoming very very real for anyone who runs afoul of dear Uncle Sam. For he will sic his Freedom and Democracy advocates their way.
Howard, are you sure you fully understand Freedom?
Are you sure you fully understand the article you have just read?
Yes I am. Why? Because it seems I am the one of the few in this audience who actually saw the discussion between Trump and Zelensky.
It seems to me, many of you guys rode with yr pre-anticipated meanings without given it a chance.
Your presumption is false.
😉
we need more and morer articles oh and videos as well toov just so long as it doesn’t botheere me
I believe we would need to invite one of the “little gray men” who visits us and sometimes loses control of their weather balloon cum spaceship to give us a definition of Freedom. Otherwise, we’ll end up with 8 billion definitions.
It was satire. Irony.
Because “fighting for freedom” was the Cabals reason to why all these Presidents you mentioned was killed.
It’s on the cards because Z is the one who doesn’t have any cards according to Trump.
All staged bs.
They are all puppets.
Agree to the BS, there is underlying reality however under the pile of shit.
Precisely. The war is still there and people on both sides still die, still get homeless and still become refugees and taxpayers still have to pay for all this bs.
More theater.
Full disclosure – I didn’t even watch it. Can’t. Won’t. Rubbish.
Exactly!!!
Exactly blatantly False from start to finish , not even Amusing , Trump was more entertaining in 2016 feigning enemity with the CIA , a grotesque Don Quixote .. the theatre is now Hammy tenth rate punch and Judy…good analyses Kit!
She didnt watch it so how can it be a good analyse??? I watched it. so following your ‘intelligent’ judgement I made a bad analyse yes?……………….LOL.
Some of your guys are really funny,
They are somewhat deranged via a TDS syndrome…
Scoobis , up the dosage get some stronger shit smoke your scoobies and watch 4 or 5 hours of Trump press con’s a guaranteed Cure for Trump as Savior Syndrome ! .. Magatards have their Heads so far up the Donalds arse , their Brains are smeared with shit..
Donald Trump has little to No individual Agency , its not TDS its MIC and Global Financial Octopus Derangement Syndrome .. its not about Donald ..who has been manufactured built up through constant MSM Blackwashing .. just like that Fraud Obama ( who at that time was necessary for the expansion of Africom for one) They are two factions of the same Global Mafia … So can the Tedious TDS drivel its stale bullshit … Donald Trump is contemptuous not because he is some kind of Monster , but because he is a Deceiver who has missled millions of well meaning long suffering people … He is just like any other bought and paid for pretend Savior!
* contemptible , not contemptuous though he is that too!.. he is Contemptuous of his Base , deliberately Lying to them , making False promises..
I have read many of Trump’s Executive Orders and I read up on the difference between Trump’s politics and Obama’s politics, and Trump won on all themes. In these analyses I found:
Trump made less wars, killed less civilians, made more American jobs, did more for America than fumbling around globally, cleaned out the Liberal’s elder abuse, lifted the Liberal induced tax on tips for the poor, sent local stuff back to decisions locally, and much more.
Ah Erik , i wrote “good analyses Kit”..
As an American, I am less than amused to watch the so-called “leader” of my country make a complete ass of himself playing the schoolyard bully. Even Biden’s mumbling nonsense was far more dignified and “presidential” than Trump’s bombast. What it does is make Americans look as “Ugly” as the rest of the world always thought. The triumph of the boor-geois.
Maybe that’s the plan. Maybe, in the coming war, we (the US) are to be the designated bad guys, the new ‘Nazis’. Does it all make sense now?
Its the other way around my dear friends.
Biden and Obama and Bush and you made US to a joke. Trump is at least trying.
Just a little example: Trumps just erased the tax on tips with an executive order while Biden and Co tried to raise it more.
Allowing (as I guess we must) that most of what transpires in the “Halls of Power” is pure theater; and that, therefore, diplomacy itself has been reduced to a game of Patty Cakes or Tiddly Winks, there is still the need to play the game well.
For four years the Biden Administration more or less played diplomacy as a Mobius Strip of “Yes sir – how high?” to Mr. Netanyahu’s “Jump!”
The
MuskTrump Administration is on target to sink diplomacy to a game of Blind Man’s Bluff or Pin The Tail On The Donkey.Trump is more national oriented.
You and others cannot say its pure theater. There is a difference between supporting and funding a symphony orchestra, or supporting and funding a death metal band.
Trump made real jobs for Americans, and Obama/Biden made fake and paper jobs only for Liberal Americans.
As told before, politics is the art of the feasible, and the feasible politics could never happen without the majority’s eagerly and horny support.
You cannot forever hide behind a Nanny and claim all bad things is from the Politicians.
At some point by passivity and turning yr back to reality you as citizens become co-responsible.
You participated, you received the 30 silver shekels, and all you did was crying.
I’m not American , but i think We all know its not Ordinary Americans who deserve the Lions share of Blame. .. the Parliamentary System is Rigged by a wealthy Supra Elite who Own Your representatives .. and pretty much Everyone Else’s.
This “Wealthy supra Elite” could do nothing if just 15% of a population took a stand.
So Erik do You have any novel suggestions as to how do We do that ?, as i see it We need a Global non sectarian uprising that somehow focuses on bringing them Down as the major primary objective, setting aside our Political differences .. as We see here though We cant really even agree about what We are seeing in realtime .. what seems like theatre and Deception on a massive scale to Me , appears to be Genuine , standard realpolitik to You l
My view is that nothing will ever be acheived through the rotting Carcass of a long abused “democratic parliamentary” system .. so where does that leave us? Cling to it in the vain hope of change is futile in the utmost ….
Firstly i think if We dont respect one another on the basis of shared Humanity , We wont even get beyond the Cancer of self pity , Hatred and Fear .
Also i just want to make it clear I dont consider Myself Left or Right .. these are meaningless Terms which have been Weaponized to Polarize Us , even Liberal and Conservative have lost all meaning .. We All have both those impulses to varying degrees .. these labels are and always have been designed to divide and alienate Us from one another … The Bosnian War , and the absurd notion of Humanitarian intervention cured Me of any Pretensions i had of being “Left”.. does that mean i must hate those who call themselves Left or Liberals , and its the Same with the so called Right … The lables are simply absurd..
And the Hatred and Spite we see based on those divisions only serves the interest of our would be Overlords.
..have you any novel suggestions?
No. But I have the solution that will give you and other confused people an inner peace the rest of your life.
Read The Ecclesiastes in the Bible: Its a very short book. Here is God’s final and very simple and easy requirement of what you should do.
But remember your free will. The choice is yours. No one else can be guilty of this your choice in this case.
Sure OK Erik , I read the Bible years ago .. along with other religious texts…I’ll read Ecclesiastes .. cheers
Erik I’ll read Ecclesiastes and in exchange will you perhaps read a very short book by the great Anarcho-Christian French sociologist Jacques Ellul.. Author of “the technocratic society” 1962, “Propaganda”1965 , “the illusion of Politics” 1966 etc .. he was also a theologian the book I recommend is “Anarchy and Christianity” short too.. should You want to chat.. dipmongathotmail.com
https://annas-archive.org/md5/e1358994d4162ec3fb9d0ecd79b2188d
The spat in the White House, Trump’s supposed cosying up to Putin and the European reaction are all basically PR to hide the fact that the US has failed in Ukraine. Trump and Vance probably had the full backing of the US military establishment to eviscerate Zelensky in that meeting (who was always nothing more than a puppet, so the war of words conveniently concealed that fact too). Trump and Zelensky are both in their different ways distractions for the central defeat. It’s all in the ‘manufacturing consent’ playbook. Another notable omission in the all the western media coverage is almost nothing on the ground from Ukraine, which suggests Zelensky has no support where it matters, despite the hype abroad. The ‘progressive’ Guardian’s echo chamber below the line seem strangely silent about Zelensky’s failure and also the lies and incompetence of his cheerleaders in the media over the last three years.
The fact that Lindsey the DeFacto warmonger was trotted out to denounce the little Ukranian wannabee speaks volumes. They would not eject this war unless they had a new one teed up. So, I give you the middle east, whereby the globalist pig cabal will strive to once again set of WW3 via a widespread regional war in this theater.
My sentiments exactly. And my gut tells me that we are fated/slated to lose that one, too.
Those however are just battles, we are also slated to lose the war in which the prize for us will be neo-feudalism.
Im with you guys here. Iran is probably the next on the menu card. After having a Lebanon dessert.
There’s probably some .alt media academic depth analysis explaining the schizophrenic news cycle in relation to synthesis in the Hegalian Dialectic, while the rest of us just point and laugh at the headlines.
I’m wondering if they need an EU army in Ukraine to stop the peasants marching on the Verkhovna Rada with torches and pitchforks (or the Ak47’s they handed out) before Zelensky et al are hoisted on lamp posts when it dawns on the masses their sons were sent to die for
Black Rocknothing.Meanwhile, while everyone is distracted by whitehouse fisticuffs, Israel is lobbying the US to keep Russia’s Tartus and Khmeimim military bases in Syria.
US ‘in secret talks with Putin ally to restart Nord Stream 2 pipeline
While eveyones
distractedconfused about all that, only 8 months after Starmer said “Britain will not rejoin EU in my lifetime” the tories kinda let the cat out of the bag when Braverman penned this peice in the Torygraph: Keir Starmer will drag us back to the EU however he can.We dint need an EU army because NATO, but now Trump has thrown a spanner in the NATO works, it seems much clearer where all this is heading.
Aparently, Britain dint vote hard enough…
I’m not understanding this but amid multiple nations passing anti hate speech laws is it true that in war time it is ok to promote hatred and for the purpose of killing someone(as many as possible during the proscribed time) and based on a “protected” characteristic?
Or is the killing just neutral corporate policy?
It’s way too complicated now.
Yes, some people love me to death, until they figure out they are the only ones dying.
It is funny, nearly 😔
Another thought provoking article, thanks.
Reading the pro-Zelensky tripe in my local rags (both Murdoch propaganda comics – daily Tele & SMH) makes me feel like crying into my cornflakes at the thought that the MSM wants us to swallow the bullshit about Zelensky being ‘their hero’. HTF did we get to this? Moreover, the total soft-cock of a PM, Anthony Albanese has actually gone on to blabber some horseshit about sending MORE financial/weaponry support to the coke-sniffing dwarf pretending to be fighting for Ukraine. WTF is wrong with us … ? I’m aware that 95-97% of the media is controlled by the demons but that doesn’t excuse our ignorance, or gullibility. Just how did they promote a coke-sniffing, military-fatigue wearing dwarf to the position of ‘hero’? How … ?
Its a big tribe over there and words travel very fast, so that’s how.
Correct, there is no excuse.
The sooner that the a-hole 95% of humanity get their just dessert, the better.
I take it you’re not part of that 95% you wish to see “get their just desserts?” Are you perhaps part of the ownership class, or just another useful stooge completely unaware that remarks like yours are just what our owners want? There is always one who thinks they aren’t part of the overall machine, handing down judgement on the rest while basking in their own virtue thinking they aren’t part of the problem as well. Reality is far more complex and nuanced than that, but with the dumbing down almost complete, I can see why some need to think they are uniquely qualified to pass judgement on the rest. All part of the divide and conquer, and it works every single time.
Aha, you like numbers!!
One of the 4.99%
The only nuance is about the make-up of the 95% (see later).
So, just keeping fingers crossed here that there’s a year or two after which it is impossible to listen to the gullible a-holes. That would be golden until they finish us off too or otherwise have some fun.
Hoping that the, something less than 95%, will give up on any tooth fairy (e.g. Zeus, God, Allah, Putin, DJT) which comes along is not worth the aggrevation. There’s nothing, absolutely nothing, complex about it, unfortunately.
The owners (the 0.01%) have always taken what they wanted although technology is what makes them particularly deadly now.
It’s actually a lot less than 95% … there’s a fair number who have always known the deal & wish that they were part of that 0.01%.
With a brain there’s absolutely no reason to be dumbed down to dumb.
Most are, simply, gullible a-holes.
I hope the Global Mafia finish them off with the Monkeypox 2 Vax sooner than later.
Divide & Conquer is just an excuse provided for a-holes.
You need to start apportioning blame where it exists:-
To the 95.01% of humanity.
If the 4.99% were left & suddenly became the 99.99% there might, just might, be a chance.
Otherwise, what has worked, as you say, every single time will continue to do so.
95% is also roughly exactly the same as the percentage – competently written by smart people and also well-read in many areas – comments here that are at least 95% away from the goal regarding the reality of the “war in Ukraine”. Everyone has something to say about the still existing enmity, which does not exist. I add 95% ignorance of decisively important and influencing things from and about Russia, on the part of at least 95% of the people here. But because they are really smart, well-read and educated, this petrifies their opinion when they form one.
They don’t even believe their own swill
. It all reads as cynical drivel .. Got to keep that gravy train upwardly mobile , keep making the filthy rich richer while disposable people die… the MSM can’t even feign a credible degree of conviction ..no one believes that shit in the least !
Coke sniffing dwarf…LOL…!
I should like to hear an explanation of that too.
One thing is the theater Poroshenko did, but the lousy dressed crybaby Zelensky in the middle of the group of world leaders is a comic book.
I have a theory. Hear me out. Elon’s DOGE is simply his and Trump’s way of selling Austerity measures to the American public. Ever since the U S. lost their AAA rating from Moody’s the world bank and IMF were always going to impose austerity. Who better to sell this idea to the American public than two snake oil salesman?
After their success in cutting public expenditure and federal spending they are now selling their country’s loss of yet another war as a ‘Peace Plan’. A plan that will give all the mineral rights of Ukraine to multinational corporations and which will further the rift between America and Europe. Ever since the Nord Stream terror attack it seems that America is set on the path of war, not just with Russia but with Europe as a whole. The financial might of the Eurozone is seen a threat by many U.S. billionaires who see Europe as a threat to their global hegemony.
OK that was several theories but I kind of got carried away. Sorry.
Eurozone does not have any financial might.
According to wiki: “The Eurozone has significant financial strength, with a GDP estimated at $20.29 trillion in 2025, making it one of the largest economies in the world. Additionally, it has total banking assets exceeding $38 trillion, indicating a robust financial sector.”
Plus the Global Financial Center is still in the city of London, been there for at least 200 years. Despite clusters of financial power centers raising in East.
London still has global control over the gold trade.
Europe about 520 mio people versus USA about 330 mio.
The city of london corp, is not even in England legally speaking – let alone the EU.
Wiki? Are you fucking kidding me? you would actually use that as a creditable source?
Wait until the bail-in comes!
Your theory makes sense.
Europe made US play and pay the Big Brute role. Most European countries pay less than 2-1% to military while US paid 50% of the global military expenses.
But this role is extremely expensive in the long run, no matter how many financial jumping arounds you do on paper.
Example: To “Fuck EU” by V. Nuland made a bill to the US tax payers of 5 billion USD. https://tass.com/politics/824413 .
You wanna play big guy? Ok but its gonna cost you.
It is difficult. They have shoved so much down our throats in such a short time…impossible to digest it all.
Moody’s, World Bank and IMF belong to the same masters. What IMF imposed on so many desperate countries for over 50 years MAY now be implemented in the most bankrupt country.
Exactly. And what better way to sell austerity to the Americans than by appealing to their sense of patriotism? By pretending all these austerity measure are to protect the U.S. economy and to keep out immigrants Trump and Musk are appealing to all the flag worshiping folk who know little about either the economy or immigration.
2023 Nov.10 (Reuters) – Moody’s on Friday lowered its outlook on the U.S. credit rating to “negative” from “stable” citing large fiscal deficits and a decline in debt affordability.
The move drew immediate outrage and criticism from President Joe Biden’s gigantic Liberal Obama administration.
Moody said they were prepared to lower the future down to first AA- and then a single A+ for the future economy of America, meaning = Soup kitchens all over the United States!
THIS is the future of America folks.
‘But what do we think is really going on?’
By now, if you really believe the news, you must be out of your mind.
It’s a distraction of reality, a continuing money grab by different means: from terrorists to virus to Russians to Gazzeans, to Imperealiasts, to climate, to ultimately: extremely bad acting and we are supposed to believe all of it and forget about it at the same time, as if it does not matter.
Funny thing, most still believe it, most think it does not matter, most think it’s in their interest, most are entertained by the bad acting.
The population at large is treated as if they are willing to swallow it all. And they do swallow. Perhaps most are willing to swallow it as they have been numbed down by the endless stream of nothingness that passes through their lives as ‘news’, which is alternated by more nothingness through (bullshit) work, (prescription) drugs, atrophied friendships, long distance family, the occasional club med vacation, WhatsApp, Facebook and other Twatter and that nothing really matters. It’s like we are birds in a cage that Twitter along and are happy when they see themselves in a mirror and are fed 2-3 a day with some food. It’s a travesty of tragedy.
Unless it’s meant to be ridiculous. The cutthroat tragedy of the news for most of my life was different to this. This is comedy and is intentional. If you believe this you’ll believe anything. It’s a test.
The MEEJA. No more than billionaires blogs where history is the first casualty.
https://tass.com/world/1921959
When Piano-Dick went to see Sir Keith the establishment media reported that there was a crowd of hundreds cheering for him outside Number 10. Sir Keith made a point of saying to Piano (according to the media):
“I hope you heard some of that cheering in the street. That is the people of the United Kingdom coming out to demonstrate how much they support you… and our absolute determination to stand with you,” Starmer told him.
Starmer told Zelensky he had “full backing across the United Kingdom”.
“We stand with you and Ukraine for as long as it may take,” Starmer said.
So I went looking for the video of this cheering crowd and, amazingly, it doesn’t exist. I saw 2 hours of “pool” video on the Independent You-Tube of some media types getting ready in front of the black door and another video of Sir Keith and Piano pretending to be talking to each other and looking out at some imaginary scene while “journalists” yelled out a few questions about making up with the US Orange Man.
If there was a real crowd “cheering in the street” I can’t find any evidence of it.
You are correct…more bullshit fodder for the cud chewing herd.
The Oval Office performance seems designed to allow Zelensky’s previous supporters a way to back out and, they imagine, save some face. Exhibit A: Lindsey Graham….
https://nypost.com/2025/03/03/us-news/sen-lindsey-graham-doubles-down-on-call-for-zelensky-to-consider-resigning/
Gosh, if only they’d known he was such a rude slob they’d never have supported him! Zelensky’s only remaining support in the U.S. are court clowns whose role is to be wrong about everything. Step forward Bernie Sanders, fresh from his performance at the RFK jr confirmation hearing!
Another example of the left/right split: “will Trump ever speak like that to Putin/Netanyahu?”
The deal that’s taking shape appears to involve two main aspects:
1) The U.S. gains 50% of Ukraine’s rare earth mineral revenue in perpetuity. That’s a level of asset-stripping to make Wall Street or the East India Company proud. Most of the rare earth minerals are in the Russian-majority oblasts so how will that work out?
2) Allowing in thousands of E.U. troops as “peace-keepers”. Past performance suggests such troops are a lot easier to let in than get out.
In other words, Ukraine will continue to be raped, both metaphorically and probably literally given the recent behaviours of “peace-keepers”. Same thing, different guise.
This is what a country gets if they cuddle up to NATO…. which may very well be the intended meta-lesson here. Best cuddle up to those BRICS instead!
And will Victoria Nuland ever appear at the ICJ?….
The current phase of the plan is beginning to reveal itself; that is, the take-down of the Putinista faction of MAGA. There will be people placed within the Trump team who know what’s going on, but most will be unaware. I suspect that Trump is knowingly playing his assigned role, but it’s possible that he’s unwitting.
This course was probably not an original part of the plan, but was decided in the second half of 2023 following the attempted usurpation by the Putinista. Specific instances in this attempt include the partial hijacking of the GOP primary process by Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson; and likewise the failed coup in the ousting and selection of the House speaker. Now, however, they believe that victory is within their grasp.
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The RINOs Never Learn, So They Are About to Find Out
Charlie Kirk
Feb 21, 2025
If ‘Covid’ was a globalist agenda, why isn’t Putin commenting on this? A2
Putin is a Kissinger asset; that is, he’s selected, groomed, owned, instructed by Kissinger (or Kissinger’s replacement). The original Kissinger plan (Belt & Road) was that both Pax Americana and Israel would be gone by around 2022.
The Christian Zionists and the US Atlanticists had other ideas. Hence, they launched the countering plan – which involved getting Trump elected in 2016. The scamdemic was launched in 2020 to remove Trump – as he said in February 2020. However, although Biden was apparently declared the winner in 2020, Trump invoked continuity of government.
In May 2023, Kissinger conceded defeat to Pax Americana. In 2024/25, Pompeo is dancing with the IDF and declaring victory over Iran and Iranian proxies.
We are now in a clean-up and reshaping phase. I assume they needed Trump to win, rather than Harris, so that they could dump the anti-carbon garbage and rebuild energy security. And it appears they’ve decided to destroy MAGA and return to some form of uniparty Atlanticism.
So why make the scamdemic global just to oust Trump (only to re-elect him later)? And who launched it globally?
And why is Putin – Kissinger asset or not – failing to mention the scamdemic in those terms?
Some sort of gentlemen’s agreement? A2
They (Kissinger & co, Bilderberg, Banksters, or whatever label you want) already had the plan, the training, the installed institutions for a global pandemic. They were going to launch this plan at some point anyway. However, for it to work, it required the full alignment of the US government. Had there been such a government, the plan would have worked and humanity would now be microchipped and totally enslaved.
Instead, of using the pandemic plan for its intended purpose (i.e. global enslavement), they used it in the attempt to remove Trump. This was combined with another major plan; namely, the BLM protests. Some people (e.g. OffG writers) thought this coup attempt was going to work. I, however, expected it to fail.
Like every other world leader, Putin was assigned a role in the scamdemic. If he strayed too far from that role – such as calling the whole thing a hoax – he would have been killed.
Ah so, rather than being in on it Putin is more of a globalist puppet in your scenario. Perhaps it’s asking a bit much of him to do anything other than what the globalists want, in that case, for fear of his life.
But why didn’t they just threaten to kill (or indeed actually kill) Trump in 2020, a la Putin?
They threatened to kill Boris, but I very much doubt they ever needed to threaten Putin. He seems happy to comply!
With regard to Trump, he is (was?) the figurehead of a military operation. That military operation includes the NSA – hence, they track everything and everyone. To take out POTUS would require somebody on the inside – or the ability to shoot down presidential aircraft. It’s claimed they tried to down Air Force One, but failed. And even if they had taken out Trump, the military operation would have continued under Pence.
actually Trump is trump number 3 as the trump during covid was not trump, he was drugged and taken somewhere and special ops broken him out.
I kid you not. that is what the like of Lost in a dark wood Q maga delusional lot think.
See posts:
a) This thread re Charlie Kirk etc
b) Trump’s Reichstag
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https://qalerts.pub/?n=4964
Nov 27, 2022
Be aware of false prophets.
I am not a prophet.
You are not a prophet.
We are not prophets.
Focus on the mission.
Never argue logically with a woke: they will lose it…
Ideology isn’t about facts or rationality, its about absolute faith in their Cause.
really?
Yeah, in these times of impoverishment of the soul – and impoverishment of the wallet – really. A2
I notice you haven’t produced any factual evidence to support the statement, ” Putin is a Kissinger asset..”
Could you please produce it .
He has nothing.
I find it ironic that a number of posters , who proclaim the MSM as the boogie man because they smear and denigrate ad nauseam with scarcely any factual evidence what so ever, repeat the same tactic here.
As documented by Riley Waggaman, Putin faithfully implements all the Globalist policies and technologies. Moreover, he operates a parallel, replicated and partnered forum to Davos. Given his record, you’d have to present evidence that he’s NOT a tool of the Globalists!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Petersburg_International_Economic_Forum
The first Forum in the updated format was held in 2007, organized by the SPIEF Foundation under the leadership of the Organizing Committee. The same year a partnership between the World Economic Forum (WEF) and SPIEF was announced. On January 25, 2007, St. Petersburg International Economic Forum and World Economic Forum representatives met in Davos to sign a Memorandum of Cooperation between the WEF and the SPIEF.[8]
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https://thenewamerican.com/kissinger-putin-and-the-new-world-order
Kissinger, Putin, and the “New World Order”
by William F. Jasper January 9, 2009
Kissinger, never one to let a crisis got to waste, has been busy on an important new-world-order project in Russia with Vladimir Putin. Although it has gone virtually unreported in the U.S. media, Kissinger has been featured prominently in the Russian media during his many trips over the past decade to Moscow to meet with Putin and Yevgeny Primakov, the former KGB terror master for the Soviet Union in the Middle East. In 2007, Kissinger and Primakov were appointed by Putin to co-chair a bilateral “working group” of Russian and American political insiders to tackle issues such as global terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and nuclear threats.
Novosti, the Russian “news” agency run by Putin-friendly apparatchiks, reported on the new working group in an April 26, 2007 story, noting that “Kissinger, U.S. secretary of state from 1973 to 1977, has been a frequent guest in Russia since Putin took office in 2000.”
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“As documented by Riley Waagman..” About as reliable as an ashtray on a motorbike !
Umm, because Putin was a globalist Agenda!
Who exactly in the corrupt western media would report if he did?
There is the internet now, getting stuff out there isn’t such a problem. Besides, RT was even hosted in the UK during the first pandemic rollout. A2
I did not see any at the time in the Western Media.
Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s real crime was not stealing Russia’s assets for a pittance in the bandit era of Yeltsin. His real crime is that he was a key part of a Western intelligence operation to dismantle and destroy what remains of Russia as a functioning state…
..he at the tender age of 40 had risen to become the richest man in Russia worth some $15 billion by fraudulent acquisition of state assets during the lawless Yeltsin era. In an auction run by his own bank, Khodorkovsky paid $309 million for Yukos. In 2003 the same company was assessed as worth $45 billion, and not owing to Khodorkovsky’s management genius…
..In 1998, Khodorkovsky had been let free in a US case where he was charged with helping launder $10 billion with his own bank and the Bank of New York. He had very influential friends in the US it appeared. The then head of the Republic National Bank of New York, Edmund Safra, was murdered some months later in his Monaco apartment reportedly from members of an alleged “Russian mafia” whom he had cheated in a drug money laundering scheme…
.. But there was more. Khodorkovsky built some impressive ties in the West . With his new billions in effect stolen from the Russian people, he made some powerful friends. He set up a foundation modeled on US billionaire George Soros ’ Open Society, calling it the Open Russia Foundation. He invited two powerful Westerners to its board—Henry Kissinger and Jacob Lord Rothschild. Then he set about to develop ties with some of the most powerful circles in Washington where he was named to the Advisory Board of the secretive private equity firm, Carlyle Group where he attended board meetings with fellow advisors such as George H.W. Bush and James Baker III …
However, the real crime that landed Khodorkovsky behind Russian bars was the fact that he was in the middle of making a US-backed coup d’etat to capture the Russian presidency in planned 2004 Russian Duma elections. Khodorkovsky was in the process of using his enormous wealth to buy enough seats in the coming Duma elections that he could change Russian laws regarding ownership of oil in the ground and of pipelines transporting same. In addition he planned to directly challenge Putin and become Russian President. ..
.. at the time of his arrest Khodorkovsky was in the process of negotiating via his Carlyle friend George H.W. Bush, father of the then-President George W. Bush, the sale of 40% of Yukos to either Condi Rice’s former company, Chevron or ExxonMobil in a move that would have dealt a crippling blow to the one asset left Russia and Putin to use for the rebuilding of the wrecked Russian economy: oil and export via state-owned pipelines to the West for dollars.
During the ensuing Russian state prosecution of Yukos, it came to light that Khodorkovsky had also secretly made a contract with London’s Lord Rothschild not merely to support Russian culture via the Open Russia Foundation of Khodorkovsky. In the event of his possible arrest (Khodorkovsky evidently knew he was playing a high-risk game trying to create a coup against Putin) the 40% share of his Yukos stocks would pass into the hands of Lord Rothschild…
..the crocodile tears of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for the violations of Khodorkovsky’s human rights hide a far deeper agenda that is not being admitted. Washington used the Russian to try to reach its goal of totally destroying the only power left on the earth with sufficient military strike power to challenge the Pentagon’s Full Spectrum Dominance strategy—control of the entire planet.
The Real Crime of M. Khodorkovsky, by F. William Engdahl
Grand Deception The Browder Hoax Alex Krainer : Alex Krainer : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The notion that Putin and RF are all in together with the Globalists ie The City of London and its satellites is a touch awry !
Thanks Brian. Cutting through all the smug.
You guys are so boring and repetitive. Everything is a show. Nothing means anything.
Politics IS a pantomime, but the challenge is to try make some sense of what is going on underneath, at the real levels of power. Trying to understand that is our challenge.
Your low-grade understanding of multipolarity is very Marco Rubio level. The elephant in the room you can’t deal with is the technocracy you hate so much is actually just the capitalist imperialism you are blind too, cos Marx bad.
You guys are like some nihilistic sixth-form debating team.
Thank you for giving us the benefit of your vast intellect and superior insights.
We look forward to your incisive prognostications.
If you could repeat what you just said, omitting the ad hominems, it would read so much better.
In a word or two…fuck off!
The elephant in the room you can’t deal with is the technocracy you hate so much is actually just the capitalist imperialism you are blind too, cos Marx bad. You guys are like some nihilistic sixth-form debating team.
Exactly. A boarding school one too. The blinkered adherence to capitalism and casual fascism here is painful. Especially the anti-immigration stuff all-those-foreigners-coming-here-to-steal-our-pubs/poverty!
Meanwhile the psychocapitalist screw turns and splinters every head, wooden or otherwise.
We know the scamdemic was about money – a public to private wealth transfer of multi trilllions. So is most politics now. That’s the crux of it.
Think the real problem is almost everyone here is over fifty and have stopped listening to young people.
You are right but at the same time not right. You cant demand the highest intellectual level in an global public comment section.
Actually its a riddle to me how OffG redaction succeed to keep the many maniacs out and many decent voices in here.
There are fruits and nutrients to collect here anyway despite all the smug. In most media you find nothing. Cool baby. https://youtu.be/a92LKesAPAo
Martin Woolfe of the Financial Times has just pointed out that the US has become an enemy of Europe. The war is lost from Ukraines point of view, only the most cynical mind would wish it to continue.
….and it was Trump’s fault. Trump was guilty in loosing Ukraine to the Red commies.
Victoria Nuland and all her Liberal supporters did everything they could for freedom, but Trump destroyed freedom with his peace bs!
The Liberal hypocrites: Ukraine’s fight for freedom aligns with core American values | Opinion
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Starmer is so keen to support Ukraine that he will personally lead the first wave of British soldiers to the front line!
Just kidding. That could never happen.
The idea that any citizen of today’s UK would follow that asshat into battle is…well just freakin’ ludicrous.
You will be amazed one day, when you see how many Starmers there is among your neighbours. 😅 .
Trump doesn’t “want peace” and what he and his sidekick Bowman are doing is absolute theater filled with lies and delusions. It’s hard to fathom that Trump really doesn’t know why the war in Ukraine started, he’s dense but that’s a big one.
“Trump’s charges that the Ukraine war is Zelensky’s fault, and America has been generously doling out money to Ukraine (so Zelensky should show some gratitude) are rank, nauseating bullshit. The US took over Ukraine in a coup in 2014 and remote-controlled it into a war designed to bleed Russia to the last Ukrainian. It isn’t Ukraine that owes the US money. It’s the US that owes Ukraine (and Russia and much of the Middle East) double-digit trillions in war reparations.”
Trump Is SO Full of Sh*t, by Kevin Barrett – The Unz Review
It’s surprising the amount of alternative media I thought would know better are falling for what Trump is being ordered to do regarding Ukraine. It’s common knowledge the overwhelming favorite for Enemy Number One to the U.S. Empire is China, and that’s really what this is all about, relegating Russia to Europe and trying to neuter the Russia/China relationship so the U.S. can focus more fully on China. The proposed 50% reduction in military spending is just a ruse to change tactics and effectively weaken both China and Russia, however that won’t work.
I don’t think what we’re seeing is a “managed decline of America”, but rather a planned transition to different tactics based on current reality. The desire to rule the world is still the number one mission.
It’s interesting how what Zelensky was wearing was made an issue when we see Associate War Criminal Musk talking from the Oval Office with a black baseball hat and T-Shirt while his one of his gazillion kids runs around making a fool of this country.
I think that, if you were betting on which one was the bigger criminal, the odds would be 50/50. Easier to just add them up and say, “100%”.
I’m quite cautious about Trump and his minions but I got to say the intellectual level and historical void in this post id breathtaking.
USA instituted a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to set up a friendly regime and expend NATO reach to very border or Russia, what follow was 8 year of civil war in which easter Ukraine with 80% of Russian speaking (effectively Russian) population opposed western Ukraine regime ascension to EU and NATO. Ukraine regular army, including Airforce try to subdue the easter rebellion but these attempts were not successful, in part due to Russian support (equipment, training, limited unknowledge forces) but mainly by determination of eastern regions, around 30 thousand people, mainly civilians die. At the same time a political solution was south by Russia through Minsk Agreements that where supported by France and Germany but Ukraine refused to acknowledge a limited autonomy of eastern provinces and Russian security requirements (no NATO) and broke out of Minsk Agreements pawing a way for direct conflict with Russia. After Russian invasion several attempts were made to secure the peace, unfortunately Ukraine pressured by USA and it’s EU allies was determine to continue fighting to achieve it’s objectives. These are the basic facts that can not be questioned, since documents confirming these exist and are available to the public.
The current escalation driven by EU, delusional leadership, brings us all much closer to global (very much nuclear) war. Refusal of western ideologist to acknowledge basic security requirements from Russian side and their believe that Russia will “bleed to death” fighting Ukraine, then Poland and it’s satellite supporters in Baltics (we fought to the last Ukrainian, not it’s time to fight to the last Pol, Lithuanian, Estonian, Latvian and Czech) leaving western Europe ready to negotiate with Russian (as the did in 1945 https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f609.svg ) it’s survival. The current discussion around EU “peace keepers” essentially French and British troops is Ukraine should NOT create ANY sense of security in mention above countries. As soon as the fighting restarts, and it will because that’s the plan, the Anglo-Franco forces will disappear behind German lines and leave all the fighting to the (last….) eastern allies.
The saddest part of all of this is the fact that large section of European population (both in the west and East) are on board with this madness (!) due to effective propaganda campaigns across the Europe. They are willing to send their sons and daughters to a certain deaths because they have been manipulated by disingenuous politicians and media to believe that there is no OTHER possible solution. Of course this is NOT the truth, but unfortunately to understand that you need to think for yourself.
As for the article itself I have to agree that we are not putting enough attention to the WW III (nuclear) threat that is clear and absolutely real, any NATO “boots on the ground” discased as “peace keepers” or any other name will only accelerate that threat, and from what you can see this exactly what’s on European agenda, they are NOT interested in any peace deal, war, war and more war.
He is entitled to his own opinion, but he his not entitled to his own facts.
No one really wants a nuclear War , THEY want slow burning long drawn out Wars .. where they can continue testing weapons systems in the field , while enacting a grand theft of arable land and every other asset they can possibly Steal!
Well, yes and no…. nobody really wants a nuclear war for sure….but nuclear war will not start because somebody will wanted to start it….it will start because an error in assessment and decision making. The Europeans assessment is that Russians will not engaged NATO directly because the threat of nuclear war…the Russian assessment is that Europeans will never get engaged directly in Ukraine war because of the nuclear war threat….I hope you see the nuance?
Spot on.
Just one correction in yr splendid peace.
Not piece keepers but freedom fighters. WE in Liberal West are fighting WWIII for Freedom!
For freedom Big Al.
The Ukraine War started for freedom, environmental issues, and LGBT rights. Fixed!
Since early this century Mr Putin has raised with every US President
Russia’s Security Interest, and had been ignored…
So finally Russia decided to do something about it…
Mr Trump claims he wants the War In Ukrania ended, claims he wants
“Peace” – yet has never once mentioned Russia’s need for Security
assurances being the basis of “Peace”.. He knows that without such
assurances “Peace” aint very likely. He knows Mr Putin will reject any
“Peace” arrangements that ignores Russia’s Security Interests… He has
created the premise to justify washing The US’s hands of the conflict,
and smelling of roses…
“See ! I Tried !”
IT was a Storm In A Teacup…
The hook thrown by Mr Trump about The US being ‘disrespected’
was sure to clinch widespread support for Mr Trump, ’cause there’s
nothing worse than disrespecting The US…
aka – dont bite the hand that feeds you…
aka – beggars cant be choozers…
I haven’t been following any of it. At this stage the news is 100% made up. I’ve been taking long walks in nature and sending my friends funny memes about the latest ridiculous made up nonsense. I’ve noticed quite a few people have switched off too. Occasionally I notice a friend getting hysterical about some nonsense their phone is spouting at them and I find that very odd, why are they getting so worked up about the show, IT’S NOT REAL ITS ALL THEATRE! I want to tell them but then I can’t be bothered.
That is no more insane than the (a) agonising over strays, pets or refugees (b) evasion of the homeless and jab-crippled.
If your friends pay taxes, then by God they have every right to get “so worked up about the show.” It costs as much of their money as if it were all “real.”
As to all being theater: tell that to the folks who have lost family members in this theatrical performance.
There is underneath of or concurrent with the theatrics a thing called reality. And it doesn’t always have a happy ending.
WW3 will happen but perhaps not until ~2028.
In the meantime, the US is headed towards financial collapse because the US debt has devoured the budget (by design) and the American Empire is over. This Dutch alt-economist nailed it last year:
https://henrymakow.com/2024/04/anthony-migchels–beware-snake.html
Keep it simple: who is escalating / de-escalating WW III?
MI6 is to obvious in this ShakingSpear play, must do better.
too
Suez 1956: the UK, France and Israel try to take over the canal. US didn’t support, failure.
Ukraine April 2022: Boris Johnson sabotaged a peace deal, Biden supported, war success.
Ukraine 2025: the rabid Albion cat roars again, now with comrade Sta-rmer in front. US doesn’t support, domino line failure.
Europe is stumped, trumped, and even bible thumped.
Yes, the great powers of the West need Russia to continue playing the role of their principal enemy, otherwise together with Russia and Israel their main exports to third world nations, which is arms, would falter and there would only be Chinese weapons on the market. My recollection is that the EU was brought kicking and screaming even into supply arms to the Ukraine, and that it was the US-led Johnson of the UK who was sent to the Ukraine in 2022 to nix the peace deal between Russia and the Ukraine. Now all of a sudden it is the EU which takes on the role of principal Russia basher. It is all fake, fake, fake.
“ ..My recollection is that EU..”
“ In a recent Parliamentary Written Question and Answer, John Healey MP inquired about the number of Ukrainian personnel trained under Operation Interflex since its start.
James Heappey MP, Minister of State for the Ministry of Defence and Minister for the Armed Forces, responded by highlighting the UK’s significant role in training Ukrainian forces.
He revealed that over 34,000 Ukrainian personnel have been trained in the UK under Operation Interflex since its inception in June 2022. Additionally, he noted that the UK has trained more than 60,000 Ukrainians since the launch of Operation Orbital in 2015, following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2014. “
The U.K. was part of the EU until 31st January 2920
January 31st 2020.
Off Guardian needs to keep adding new layers of unlikely complexity to the “they’re all conspiring” theory to paper over the expanding cracks. It seems Trump wants the war to end. It seems increasingly unlikely Putin and Ukraine are following a common script.
You’ve misspelled it Voltara.
It’s $$$$$$$$$$$cript.
Over the decades the ‘Who Dunnit ?’ crime novels morphed into
‘Conspiracy Theories’… Dan Brown’s “DaVinci Code” novel was a
believable Conspiracy…
What about the very scripted nature of all of this? Post-Covid, isn’t ignoring this rather complacent? Couldn’t doing so be fairly described as ‘papering over the cracks’ of the failing 20th Century geopolitics narrative? A2
Oh please don’t upset the apple cart.
“There was a fight in the Oval Office!”
Let’s recall a few things. In the last 3 years the US/ U.K./ NATO/ City of London’s Ukrainian Neo Nazis proxies have lost approximately 1,000,000 KIA and WIA, the telegram channels are full of new cemeteries all over Ukraine + they now passed a law to press gang 18 year old to be used as cannon fodder, and lost enormous quantities of Soviet + Western planes, tanks, artillery, helicopters etc.
Moreover, the economies of Germany, U.K, France, US are in dire straits.
So with the new designated enemy can the US fight any new forthcoming war be fought 2 fronts, lessons from WW2 perhaps.
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/03/01/the-trump-zelensky-fracas-in-the-white-house/
The “Art of the Deal” I would suspect. Trump & Vance trying to get Zelensky all grateful and thankful for a few ‘Javelins’ in his losing war. Gratitude being an essential prerequisite for being ripped off for all the minerals your country possesses
Fortunately, Zelensky, despite his propensity for green military wear and limited stature, decided not to play ball
Zelensky 1, Angry Trump/Vance 0
$350 billion worth of ‘javelins’ at the last count!
Not quite that much. Around $3 billion’s worth.
The US delivered around 10,200 Javelin anti-tank missiles by January 2024. Assuming roughly the same rate of delivery that’d be around 15,000 by now. Each missile costing approximately $176,000
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1314473/ukraine-portable-defence-systems/
Which would work out about 2.64 billion dollars (15,000 x 176,000)
About 70% of every dollar the US spends on weapons of war goes to the munitions manufacturers (this according to several military pundits regularly appearing on Judge Napolitano’s YouTube channel). So, rather than the US gifting Ukraine with $350 billion – it’s gifting the MIC with $245 billion.
Thank you for acknowledging that there is a reality lurking beneath the “theater.”
Imagine a people so sick that they attack their gvt, so the gvt creates a war so the sick can fight somewhere, is this the Ukraine the past few decades?
Is this the reason to not want to stop the war,
could be sick
Remember “Fuk the EU”? US Ambassador to Ukraine and Senator Victoria Nuland stirring up troubles and riots on a visit in Kiev dealing out cookies to the citizens on the street.
There is some dark agenda behind it by some group not visible. Khazaria?
Anything is possible, but i’m not going to prune the bushes to see what the neighbors are doing, its just not right.
Davos-globalism has realised that Trump-globalism is real.
And means business !