WATCH: Paul vs James & the Birth of Christianity
A highly interesting documentary from the days before the History Channel was nothing but staged reality shows, this film discusses the men who inherited Jesus’ followers after his death, the conflict between them and how it shaped the fledgling Christian Church.
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49:46 and 49:56 say no more
“highly interesting documentary”
Really it’s junk.
To give a charitable review , the ‘alternative’ view has a version of events right up to, ironically, the resurrection.
At this point it gives up and admits (sort of) that the ‘just a man’, Jesus did in fact come back from the dead….but then fails (entirely) to explain how, or why.
At that point the just a politically savvy, charismatic healer from humble origins, revolutionary leader… version wrecks abruptly. Because, as we now know, Easter etc. that was the main event/proof etc. not a new political order failed
Woeful and outdated.
Gossip. About Jesus’s family and his competition relationship to his brother whose father was unknown.
Now I finally get it. Jesus was Shakespeare’s antecedent. Neither man could have possibly been who we’re told they were because both were nobodies. And only a privileged somebody could have done what either man did.
Jesus didn’t perform miracles and die for people’s sins; neither did Shakespeare write some of the greatest literary works of all time. How could they possibly have? they were nobodies. Case closed.
(BTW: how can Christian Evangelicals choose to become “Born Again?” Weren’t they, along with all others, “Born Again” when Jesus died for their sins? Or did he die only for those who went before him and for his contemporaries? but not for future humans? I can only quote the King of Siam: “Is a puzzlement!”)
In 1980 (when I was 21), I saw “The King & I” at the London Palladium, here in the UK. It starred (of course) Yul Brynner, along with Virginia McKenna, who played Anna Leonowens [hope I spelt the last word correctly]. A week or so later, I wrote a letter to Mr Brynner, and received a reply back from his secretary, to say that he’d read my letter, and thanked me very much for it!
You mention the ‘Shakespeare’ Authorship stuff… well, Howard, no matter WHAT you merely think, the actual facts/evidence militates very strongly (99%-100% strongly!!) against ‘the Stratford bloke’ having been the author, and indicates very strongly that Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, was the actual author. And NO, as I’ve said to a number of times, I am most definitely not a snob! (In fact, I’m an ‘inverted snob’.)
I and the many, many thousands of others around the world who are also ‘Oxfordians’ say what we say re. Oxford having been the author simply because that is what the actual evidences indicate!!!
I first began researching the Authorship question in August 2020. And since then have bought, and read, 20+ scholarly books on the subject.
I’ve made the following point before now, too: that the ‘First Folio’ was produced by two of the daughters and sons-in-law of de Vere! Precisely because they were fully aware that it was their father/father-in-law who had been the author of the so-called ‘Shakespeare’ works.
As it happens, I’m right now reading (one of 7 books I currently have on the go) Part 2 of an excellent two-part series of chunky books re. the Authorship question, by one of your compatriots: he writes under what I think [but don’t quote me on that, for am not sure] is the pseudonym of ‘Jon Benson’. He calls his two-volume series “The death of Shakespeare”, Parts 1 and 2. I’d bought, and read, Part 1 in Sept. 2020, but at that time, he’d not yet completed Part 2. Every so often, I’d been looking to see if the second part had been published. I’d not looked for over a year, and a couple of weeks ago, discovered that it, Part 2, had been published in Dec. 2023. I ordered a copy, and have just started reading it.
It summarises, in the form of a novel, the salient facts/evidences which indicate that de Vere was indeed the author.
The author has a site online, re. this subject (trackable by putting ‘Death of Shakespeare’).
I’m sorry, but you’re wrong. All the evidence points to Thomas North as being the author of Shakespeare’s plays.
Until I read your post above, I’d never heard of Thomas North. I looked him up, and took a brief glance at one of the sites (by one Dennis McCarthy).
The site said that ‘Shakespeare’ adapted the writings of this chap North.
Well, that doesn’t negate the very high probability that Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford WAS the man behind the ‘Shakespeare’ writings. He may have used some of the writings of this man Thomas North. I don’t know. But what I do know is that very many of the storylines in the ‘Shakespeare’ plays are relatings of actual events in the life of Edward de Vere, including events from his personal life that no-one else would have known about.
Whatever! The most important message in this quarrel between Paul and James then, and the Corbett report today, is Kosher food and Circumcision! Period.
Are you not circumcised and do not eat kosher, you belong to the lake of fire. Three lines.
It is THAT easy.
You resisted covid for the wrong reason.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes.
There is hope in the proles. Salt of the earth.
Reading through some of the posts on this thread, it is patently clear that there are a number of atheists behind them which is quite bizarre. Namely, many of the Globalists are Satanists.
Nothing has changed as to who is directing this march towards a New World Order, as at the top is a person named “Satan,” or “Lucifer,” or “the Devil,” and it doesn’t matter if your own belief system does not agree that this person exists, because the Globalists at the top of the power structure most certainly do, and they are active participants in Satanism.
Identifying the Luciferian Globalists Implementing the New World Order – Who are the “Jews”?
Satanic panic OMG and ”’globalist are satanists”
REPENT or else.
You don’t believe but your oppressors most certainly do !
“Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him.
When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” (John 8:31-47)
Christians, don’t forget the Gnostics and their ophis serpent – Ophite. Do not forget the Manichean Albigenses/Cathars with roots in the Bogomils sect. Don’t forget the atheist illuminists – the pioneers of communism, who showed what they could do. Remember Vandee! Don’t forget the new Bezboznicy/Bezbojnici, they give the impression that they studied “scientific atheism” with Bolshevik professors from Leningrad. The anti-Christian arrogants have forgotten that without Christian armies led by devout princes, today they would be wearing turbans and prostrating themselves to Mecca. Be strong in your faith, do not yield to them.
Moreover, in a little later time, the kings themselves, the fathers of the pious princes, the warlords of the armies who saved the Europeans from headscarfs and scimitars, quite nobly forgot to help against the same scourge of some Tsars and their Peoples who saved Europe from Muslim invasion several times through certain key entry regions. So these peoples, earlier saviors of devout Europeans, were nobly left by devout European kings to endure centuries of Islamic slavery.
This is how a pious Western Europe pays off (I hope they turn all your Christian children into digital ID transgenders mixed with immigrants, it would be fair).
(*And I’m not trained by the St. Petersburg Bolsheviks, Rebe Schneerensson was my teacher. !)
I understand very well what you are saying! Lazarus of Serbia, Mircea the Elder, Stephen the Great, Vlad the Impaler, Michael the Brave or Serban Cantacuzino are good examples of real fighters against the descendants of Hagar. In the East they fought with the tactic of scorched earth, and in the West they built imposing universities and cathedrals. They did not fully support the fighting, fearing the liberation of Constantinople and the eventual rebuilding of the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine). However, the Westerners won an important victory at Lepanto. But, yes, I understand your criticism. Still, we must abandon old animosities. East and West have to stand shoulder by shoulder, for exactly the reasons you mention, plus other challenges of our age such as “political correctness”, woke, the annihilation of European nations, deindustrialization, cancel culture et cetera. Only together do we stand a chance against the enemy at the gates and within. I admit, your teacher is interested … even if others have learned from Nicolae Paulescu 🙂 Let me recommend a book, You Gentile by Maurice Samuel. Here a short description
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1889421.You_Gentiles
My poor Franz, what did you do, stupid?! I told him not to overdo the adrenohrome. On the 20th we delivered him a shipment of extra quality from Zelensky’s underground factories. I told him to be careful at that age, but he was already on few white lines, he was like mad, crushing his little hat with hands and trembling about the merchandise..
And he was just about to make a Great Deal for the rare earths under the Vatican, and everything would have gone great…
Paul vs James is an historical novel.
Lets investigate where the notion of Jesus having a brother called James originated.
Was James, the brother of Jesus, the son of Mary and Clopas? Or was he the son of Joseph per the ossuary of James?
The authenticity of the inscription on James ossuary is greatly debated. Due to inconclusive evidence the inscription should not be relied upon to form historical theories.
James, the brother of the Lord, has been identified by various scholars as either a son of St. Joseph from a previous marriage or as a cousin of Jesus.
The Protoevangelium of James describes St. Joseph as a widower with children. Based on this tradition some Catholics have believed James to have been a step-brother to Jesus.
The identification of James is sometimes identified as the son of Alphaeus/Clopas for the following reasons:
Who Was James the “Brother” of Jesus? | Catholic Answers Q&A
Burial Box of St. James Found?
Burial Box of St. James Found? | Catholic Answers Magazine
Competing controversies of invested belief – or thought accepted necessary or true, underlie the ‘appearances’ of the narratives cast out as ‘history’.
I read and receive from a presence or present revelation of Thought (made manifest in our results or fruits thereof).
The cultural idea-development within our ‘histories’ may be more of a creative alignment than would seem from the belief (that) the past creates the future (by stamping the present).
Discernment (aka the Holy Spirit) does not stop at the appearances of locked-down definitions, but invested self-illusion will stop listening, hearing or seeing truth when its cage is rattled.
When Jesus said “on this rock I build my Church”, I see the recognition-resonance of Peter and Jesus. As in “Who hath seen me hath seen the Father”. Because Cause is inseparable from its effect. This integrality and Inherence of being is discarded for the hit and thrill of a world set for ‘getting’ and the vengeance born of hate for the subjection and exclusion that follows as surely as night follows day – for our giving sets the measure of our receiving – regardless a mind that ‘knows not what it does’.
I get OG email updates and occasionally comment – but a world in which everything turns to shit is a guilt-fest for a death cult.
There is a baby in the bathwater – and so there is a love of life entangled in the masking defences of conflicted self illusion. But while it is given to guilt, evil, hate-targets and blaming sacrifice seeking power to appease its appetite, it knows not what it does ‘in the name of caring or protection’.
Anything that ‘comes into the world’ (The mind that makes or defines our experience of world) will be repurposed to serve such a mindset. That is it will be weaponised and marketised towards being systemised and normalised. But there Is another purpose within All That Is – than the mind set by self-image as lacking, conflicted and driven.
If our current model of ‘genetics’ were recognised as idea complexes (not flat or linear ‘informational data’, we might see that the wish for the genie for controlling reality abnegates and erases our awareness and gratitude for sharing in truth – which is love’s resonant-recognition of an unfolding fulfilment.
I find that differentiating the earth and the world, the living and the mind reflection helps to understand things.
So the Pope just happens to die on Easter Monday? Not at all a contrived morbid mockery….
The Catholics I’ve met are some of the best people – but the Vatican is completely infiltrated and corrupt now, the only real question is how far back does it go?
I’d wager “very”.
My experience too. But Catholic is a very comprehensive world wide umbrella, (Roman Empire m.m.)
All the way, at least back to the Council of Nicaea., in 325 AD where Emperor Constantine took it over….and the Church of Babylon stretching into the dim and distant, right back to Sumer…I mean ‘Medici Popes’….for God’s sake???
To its inception.
The Hope is dead.
(That ain’t a misprint).
WHY JESUS CAME
1. 1 JOHN 3:5 – He came to be our Sin-bearer.
This verse reads – “you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in Him is no sin.” The word ‘appeared’ is significant; it infers our Lord’s pre-existence. When He was born at Bethlehem, that was not His beginning – look up and compare John 1:1-3; 2 Corinthians 8:9; Galatians 4:4; 1 John 1:1-12. Why then did He come? The answer is: to take away our sins! So the essential purpose of the incarnation was not that our Lord might become our Example or our Teacher, but that He might be our Sin-bearer.
2. 1 JOHN 3:8 – He came to destroy the works of the Devil.The verse reads, “The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.” Satan is the instigator of all the sin and suffering that the human race has known; all the sickness, heartbreaks, murders and wars come because of his presence in the world. But Jesus came to destroy Satan and to restore to us all that we have lost through his evil workings; and He did this by His death upon the cross of Calvary. There, once and for all, Satan was defeated – look up Hebrews 2:14; Revelation 20:10. Jesus bound the strong man – look up Mark 3:27. He did this potentially; and soon, at His second coming, He will do it actually – look up Revelation 20:10. In John 10:10 there is a beautiful illustration of this. Satan, as a thief, comes to rob, spoil and destroy, but Jesus comes to reverse the whole process and to overthrow and remove all Satan’s works. What a great thing it is to be on the side of the Lord Jesus Christ! What a solemn thing to be on the Devil’s side! look up Matthew 12:30. Satan today is doing his utmost to keep men and women in the dark concerning the Person and the work of Jesus Christ our Lord – look up 2 Corinthians 4:4. He is also intent on attacking and accusing God’s children, but thank God he is a defeated foe! – look up Romans 16:20.
3. 1 JOHN 4:9 – He came to give us Eternal Life.The verse reads, “This is how he showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through Him.” Jesus came to give us eternal life. This was our greatest need, because the coming of sin had brought death upon the whole human race, spiritual death, which is separation from God – look up Romans 5:12; Ephesians 2:1, and compare John 5:40. We were spiritually dead; God loves us and sent his one and only Son into the world that we might have eternal life. This is the good news of the gospel – look up John 3:16. How do we get this life? – look up 1 John 5:11-12 and see. Do you possess eternal life and have the assurance that you have passed from death into life? – look up John 5:24.
4. 1 JOHN 4:10 – He came to be the Atoning Sacrifice for our sins.The verse reads, “This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.” These words are saying that the Lord Jesus not only came to take away our sins, but that because He did that by offering Himself as the sacrifice for sin, He entirely vindicated the holy and righteous character of God, and satisfied all the demands of His holiness and justice, thus enabling Him to be merciful to the sinner. God is righteously angry with our sinfulness – look up Psalm 7:11. His holy and righteous nature demands this. Sin must be punished. But sin has been punished in the Person of our Substitute, who bore our sins in His body on the tree – look up 1 Peter 2:24. Thus, we can say with the psalmist – look up Psalm 103:10. The Lord Jesus has once and for all dealt with the sin question, and because our trust is in Him we are safe and secure. How wonderful to have this assurance!
5. 1 JOHN 4:14 – He came to be the Saviour of the World.The verse reads, “And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Saviour of the world.” This is the glorious note with which we end our study. Jesus is the Saviour of the world; the work of salvation which He accomplished upon the cross is adequate for all people, everywhere. Christ is the universal Saviour. The message given to the shepherds on the first Christmas Day is still true – look up Luke 2:10-11, and compare John 4:39-42. Does this mean that everyone is saved? No, it means that salvation is available and provided for all – but it has to be accepted. Jesus is the only Saviour – look up Acts 4:12. He is well able to save all who come to Him – look up Hebrews 7:25; but to be saved we must call upon and trust Him as our own personal Saviour – look up Romans 10:13.
Now I perfectly explaining myself the type of educated mind that can easily just close its eyes to everything about Putin – from the plandemic crimes themselves, through the entire wild digitalization, promising zero anonymity, with digital ruble testing and laws for the implementation of AI in every sector of society. Now everything falls into place.
(“The sacrifices (eye-closing and others) that are required for the greater good,” something like that, Brian?)
” Now I perfectly explaining myself..”
Yes, quite !
What can we learn from the bible? You know, Jesus was a very laid back kind of fella. Peace to this, peace to that, etc.. He liked to mingle with the riff raff, proper chavs, tax collectors and the like… Scum, basically. Never a problem. He even had a very civil conversation with the man himself, the devil (“No sir, you are very much mistaken there…”). Again, no problem at all. There is only one instance in the whole book where he totally loses it and kicks of big time. That happens when he meets…The Banksta! The hedge fundies and tax shelter guys of his time. Beats them to a bloody pulp actually. So, what is the Good Book trying to tell us? Answer: Be like Jesus, thump a money changer!
” So, what does the good book tell us? Answer..”
The teachings of Jesus
During His life, the teachings of Jesus Christ took many different forms.
Sometimes they were responses to questions He was asked.
Other times, they were sermons He gave to His assembled followers, such as the Sermon on the Mount.
Often His teachings took the form of parables—simple stories He told to illustrate important gospel principles in a way that would be understood by sincere seekers of the truth.
But no matter the way He chose to deliver His message, common themes emerged.
Jesus taught the importance of making sure we’re righteous not just in our actions, but also in our thoughts, feelings, and motivations.
He expressed the need to care for the most vulnerable among us while condemning hypocrisy and pride.
He continually glorified His Heavenly Father and encouraged His followers to strengthen their relationship with God through prayer.
The Parables of Jesus
In the German-speaking gay scene, “He’s a sister” means “He’s one of us”. This is usually noted when the sister has not yet had her “coming out” and is trying to disguise herself in public, but the unerring instinct of the fellow co-sisters can’t be fooled. They have fine antennae for their peers, even if the crypto-fag doesn’t wiggle his butt in a “provocative” manner. Alternatively, you can call him a “warm brother”, or “he’s the other way around” or “he’s from the other river side”. There are countless funny characterizations of this “species”. Mr. Johnson repeatedly uses the phrase, he “poo-pooes not back”, whatever that means in the “scene”.
He does, however, dump a full load of feces on Mike Enoch and Joe Jordan. Mr. Johnson and his guest, in their typical intellectual vanity, are convinced of the stupidity and wrongheadedness of all the “ziggers” and “nordicists” they disdain. Almost the entire “show” actually consists of condescending slander, as you would expect from the gossip columns or “clubs” of the LGBTQ scene, and which betrays a great inner insecurity about one’s own position or a veritable inferiority complex. In all seriousness, their fanboyz paid over 1k dollars for this on Odysee alone, and probably as much again on other streams at the same time.
https://rumble.com/v6sc1u5-martinez-and-johnson-demolish-the-lies-of-ziggerism.html
https://t.me/nazbertperspective/4352
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code
Love was before ALL religions, is Now, and will Be after ALL religions and systems of belief.
Can you feel it?
Feelin’ the strengths and weaknesses of my australopithecine ancestors, and my contemporaries, including the rest of you lot. Love being both strength and weakness.
One of these popes, kings or queens are going to live forever one day, they just want your patience, time, money until then.
With a little mystic knowledge one directly spots the documentary being completely fake and misinformed. This doesn’t suit off guardian very well.
Try this instead for some real input.
https://www.youtube.com/live/00cySTk7ufQ?si=leycWKY1yzGSe4Z7
Sorry but that link is full of talking about some X page where I don’t intend to go (for lack of X or any other social media for that matter). I was expecting a documentary, not a 0.25x speed talking. The curious thing is that if you paste the link into youtube you are served a totally different video (similar topics but the video is different)
The question letter ? is a track no. You should always copy paste until before the ? mark to not be tracked.
Ok, thanks, didn’t use youtube much. Or it works for any links ? Terrible world for simple people who like to read books on paper.
I think so. But I use to check it out first. Copy/pasting the link just before the ? sign, and then see if it works. If it works, it can be pasted anywhere.
Similar with photos. It took me also a little time before I found out that only images with an xxxx.jpg or similar . dot image end, can be used for a show up.
When a variant on this coming about Mohammad?
Waiting for Godot to post…….
Same shit.
Different deity.
In the next life you will be a devoted moslem.
This “Australian” of oriental phenotype, absorbed by the judeo-bolshevik mind virus, traces the Zio-“Holocaust” narrative of the “war of annihilation”, which he presupposes as undeniable fact, back to an American cause.
In short: No Lebensraum without Go West. Reason enough to plaster the whole West with “Holocaust museums”. Why such neo-Marxists don’t flee to Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea, but prefer consumerism, remains weird.
In any case, his repulsive skin blemishes, chimp-like body hair and overall disgusting appearance are factual. Whether he also has a strong bad breath must, like his “thesis”, be relegated to the realm of provisional conjecture.
Without Judas’ betrayal, no Christian religion. thus no Easter holidays…
So why is Judas spurned, why isnt Judas a saint ?
He is.
Saint Jude of lost causes.
Seriously !
Why did Judas commit suicide? Maybe because he realized he did something really baddy baddy baddy.
Another thing is, all non-believers take the Bible literally. Believers know the stories in the Bible are symbolics. Therefore they dont ask such things..
To belatedly drop this “stub” without furnishing specific examples and links, there is an established theme in literary works and philosophical discussion postulating that Judas, far from being an iconic über-villain, was the true Christ– or at least, more of a “savior” figure than Jesus, the settled conventional narrative notwithstanding. 🤔
Because he was a banker! He looked after the money after all.
More mythology. 😁
If we think about all the monasteries, churches, cathedrals, synagogues, temples, bibles, quran, saints, teachings, BC AD our timeline, films, books, statues, research, historians, worshipping, about the subject.
A wise guy would say, there is no smoke without a fire, yes?
Think about how many millions were slaughtered in the smoke. 🤔
Yes, millions were slaughtered in the name of whichever organised religion.
However, millions were also slaughtered as a result of atheist belief systems eg communism.
No matter what, there always have been enablers, enforcers and those who go along to get along, who dance to the beat of the controllers various systems of control.
That’s true, however, there’s something especially despicable about hiding behind theology to advance a sadistic bloodthirsty agenda.
Margaret Thatcher swore by the teachings of Jesus. Decimated UK industry, 1,000 dead during the Falklands War and a cheerful. smiling Mr Savile right up to the point of his demise are proof of that
$atan’$ smug helper.
Thatcher was akin to the Pharisees !
Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites to criticize their outward displays of piety while neglecting true moral integrity and compassion. This is notably expressed in Matthew 23, where he lists several “woes” against them for their hypocrisy and failure to practice what they preached.
I am against blaming single persons for things others did.
Thatcher didnt kill or laid off UK industry. Those MEN who carried out her orders did.
Thatcher didnt kill British soldiers and officers during the Falkland war. Those MEN who carried out her orders did.
The paradise/milgram experiment again again. “The snake in the white coat said I should do it”.
And remember what happened? If you take the fruit “you will surely die” yes?
And what happened? You died man. You fuck’in died man. Thats what happened!
Why did British Industry and British Army died? Because you took the prohibited fruit from yr woman and the snake.
And now you blame yr woman, you blame the snake, and in the end you will blame also God, for the case in question.
The further story you also know, a boot in your fat bottom OUT of the garden…….LOL.
You blamed yr woman again (Eve=Thatcher), pointed at the snake(Devil=Savile) and finally say God must be guilty of what happened. Same old Adam.
He works in mysterious ways.
I’m just reading The Christ Conspiracy – The Greatest Story Ever Sold by D M Murdock, revised edition. Even just 150 pages into the exceptionally well-referenced book there can be no doubt in my mind that Christ/Jesus did not exist but was a (noble) symbolic figure that once again served our controllers. Until it did no longer, and the religion changed to coercive modern medicine.
My skepticism of Jesus’ non-existence is even greater than my skepticism of God’s existence. This is based on the generally accepted assumption that most if not all mythological figures were based on someone who actually did exist. Stories were embellished for effect so as to make a point and to make the story more interesting.
Midas, for example, was based on King Mita of Mushki. In a way, it makes sense for there to have been historical antecedents of mythological figures in order to add credence to the many gods and goddesses.
I read that book two or three years ago; yes, it’s full of facts which tend to illustrate that ‘christianity’ is nothing but BS, to control the gullible, naive, brainwashed masses. I never fell for the ‘christian’ BS in this lifetime. When our mum took my younger sister and I to church as of approx. 1965/66 (when I was 7-8 years old), I refused to kneel down, refused to sing the ‘hymns’, etc etc. Mum used to whisper at me “Christine, kneel down!”, but I replied “NO, I will not“. I did so because I had a mind of my own, and REFUSED to fall for what I knew, even then, was BS (though I wouldn’t, of course, have then known the expression, ‘BS’!).
As the book highlights, all of the stuff in the so-called ‘bible’ writings that is, when taken literally, nothing but BS (other than when read by gullible ‘christians’…), can be explained when one considers that it may well be an example of what’s termed astro-theology: a description of the Sun’s annual journey around the sky. Hence the ‘born of a virgin’ BS (for, at some point in the Sun’s journey, it starts in the area of the sky that’s designated ‘Virgo’ in astrological terms), ‘rose three days after death’ (the Sun becoming visible again after having ‘dropped beneath the horizon’, etc etc.
If all ‘christians’ read the book you refer to, many of them would be decidedly uneasy about their blind belief in what ‘christianity’ spews out.
Ah, but that’s the beauty of blind believers – to them, new information is like water off a duck’s back. You’ve got to be open and curious about what others have to say in order to make up your mind.
A P.S. to my post to you of a few minutes ago.
I most certainly did not fall for the ‘christianity’ BS in this current lifetime, but I most certainly DID discover (as a result of many years of in-depth, extensive, scholarly research starting in 1994) the proven truth of everyone’s survival (in our eternal, immortal soul/spirit body form; the latter being the real us) of the death of our physical body ‘coat’.
There are many, many tens of thousands [probably hundreds of thousands] of high-quality, scholarly books on this ultimate, greatest truth of existence.
I’ve several times provided a representative booklist on this vital subject on this site.
One of the many excellent books on this subject is:
“Your Eternal Self: Science discovers the Afterlife”, by R Craig Hogan.
There are many, many spiritually-aware scientists, doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, lawyers, etc etc around the world who know that the actual nature of ‘death is very, very different to what it merely seems to be, when interpreted on its wholly illusory, face-value mere appearance.
A large percentage of the many thousands of books on this subject have been written BY the many spiritually-aware scientists, doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, lawyers, etc etc around the world, who have themselves discovered the veritable wealth of multi-faceted evidences which provide proof that we do all survive physical body death, and return to the very real Spirit World/Spirit Dimension of this in fact multi-dimensional cosmos.
I’m open to every aspect of our human condition but believe none. Perhaps because I’ve not yet delved into the spiritualist literature that you sometimes cite.
There’s also the simulation theory of life as we perceive it which intrigues me but I’m not sure I completely understand it.
Who funded the documentary?
History is silent; only the amount of funding becomes clear: 30 pieces of silver.
Some Doos.
If Jesus did His ‘Second Coming’, and walked The Earth today,
would He be allowed back into Palestine ? Would they hang Him
again ? Would He be labeled an ‘antisemite’ (especially if He
denounced Jewish moneylenders/banksters)…
But, Les, Soros fiercely supports Palestine and their cause (and 90+% of organizations and sites specifically supporting Palestine, and also a significant portion of those newly supporting them, are also supporting leftist causes, including LGBTQRLS++ rights, vaccinations, fighting climate change, anti-white supremacy, etc.). Do you think Jesus is pro-Soros? Believe me, my friend: Jesus is 100% anti-Soros and will crush the Soros’s global table funding. I believe that if he comes back, He will sign up in the IDF.
If Jesus is anti-zio, why did he save Donny’s ear? *Imagine if it is bad now, according to some, what it would be like to have the first president with one ear, what a shame… But Jesus didn’t allow it by deflecting the bullet (probably at the cost of his own finger, he probably now has 9 fingertips – the first Savior and Redeemer of Humanity with 9 fingers… which more or less proves his alien origin… more likely Anunnaki from mixed offspring of the reptilian Orion Queen and Anu, The King of Sirius.)
Theological Significance
The mockery of Jesus is a profound demonstration of the rejection and scorn He faced from both the Jewish leaders and the Roman authorities. It fulfills the prophetic words of Isaiah 53:3 , “He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows acquainted with grief.” The mockery underscores the depth of human sinfulness and the extent of Jesus’ humility and obedience to the Father’s will.
Documentaries are the ideal medium for propagandising.
They make topic interesting, believable, and sciency…
Well, if it wasn’t for the documentaries (not the professional mainstream ones) about 9/11 that I watched in 2014 I would jabbed to the hilt today.
I witnessed 9/11 on TV like millions of others. Then I went about my life.
It was not until I inadvertently watched a free documentary on the burgeoning “hulu” in 2014 that my eyes opened and my jaw dropped.
That started the journey.
Of course you will not find any of those home-made docu’s on the internet anymore.
Now you will only find the “interesting, believable and sciency” stuff.
And you’ll have to pay for them.
My first inkling that 9/11 was not as it was made to appear came in November of 2001 – when a video supposedly showing Osama Bin Laden magically appeared on a table in a deserted house in Kandahar. The Bin Laden in that video looked nothing like the real Bin Laden.
The late Arab soul-buyer used actors like Putin, Stalin and Xi (and every self-respecting head of state, except for the shameful puppets at the Masonic Washington Corporation who are simple people). Osama was a great man, living modestly in the cave, with a daily ration of a quarter of dry bread dipped in a glass of spring water, meditating over the mantra “kill more white Americans” in search of enlightenment and unity with Allah. I liked him.
I’m embarressed and rather ashamed to say that after the first week of 9/11 I never watched or listened to any reporting.
I can’t say that I actually thought it was the saudi’s, but I did think “We (USA) have been doing this for years to other countries, why is everyone so aghast that it should happen here?” I thought that that type of astonished and angry reaction was rather arrogant of Americans.
Can one live the American lie and be arrogant too?
I mean some people can only take so much.
To believe in something that happened thousands of years ago?
Are you kidding me?
I dont believe what I heard on the News this morning.
For instance:’israeli-army-disciplines-officers-in-ambush-on-gaza-aid-vehicles’. Bloomberg..
Who believes that bullshit?
Who believes in what our Government tells us?
Who thinks our Justice system is not corrupt? Fact checkers know the facts? Our media speaks the truth?
Does anyone think that Anti Semitism protects Jews? It has been abused so often to protect the corrupt and destroy freedom of speech that it is now a joke.
True Jewish people with empathy and a heart spoke out against the renewed attacks on Gaza. I stand with them. Anyone of any religion supporting the neo Pol Pot that is Netanyahu is a bought and paid for psychopath. That includes most Western leaders.
Hate speech is a crime. Bombing a people in a massacre to create a Trump luxury resort is good to go. Are we fkn mad?
History in three paragraphs.
Big deal! Belief in a two-thousand-year-old lie is the most normal, especially given that you firmly believe in something that is not happening now, at the moment, what remains for the faithful in the non-existent Jewish messiah of non-existent biblical Jews with the non-existent history?
(Yet, Riko, what is the mystery of the incredible exact coincidence between the start date of your great religion – the “massacre of Palestinians in Gaza” – and Putin’s birthday on October 7th? Does your religious canon allow for such a debate?)
Putin is controlled by the Zionists the same as everyone else in illusionary power, The Russian revolution was financed by the Bankers.
We have King Charles to give us the illusion we have a Monarchy. He is another Rothschild puppet.
‘Jewish’ Bankers. Important detail.
I often wonder about how much the Pauline “version” of Christianity possibly and partially altered the content of Jesus’s message, so I was very glad to find this video. However, after watching it, I have to say that it contains a bunch of theories not supported by historical evidence — as, for example, “the alternative version of the Church of Jerusalem”. The sources are…? I don’t know why this blog is falling apart in such a way.
One pleasing thing about the few days after The Hanging
is the chocolate Easter Bunnies are marked down, sometimes
below half price…
In Sydney, this years The Hanging is past. So will see you all
at next years The Hanging, ‘God willing’ …
From my German side of the family I learned that there are three things you better not discuss at the dinner table with the guests or with the friends : politics, money or religion.
We are here discussing politics and money on this wonderful site all the time but for once could we keep religion out of it, please ? I have watched the film and understood it but I can’t stop thinking that the inspiration for so many artists and the whole European civilization were based on this “Pauline version”. I enjoy the music, the paintings and the literature which came with it and I don’t want to imagine what would have been if James were to win that dispute.
HOAXiversaries, Media Fakery, and the “PSYOP Entertainment Complex”
Jesus is really real easter special by a blog that called the covid hoax but stops at the other hoax’s like Jesus.
Indeed.
Definitely need to consider it could be a part of the panoptican tower.
Very interesting, as long as you ignore the fact that Jesus as a historical figure never actually existed. Happy Easter everyone!
Whether or not he is a historical figure is broadly irrelevant nowadays. It has lived in the minds and hearts of billions of people for the last 2000 years , in the form and message shaped by a tiny group of people.
Thanks to that figure (historical or otherwise) , other millions of people have died: the first European genocide in recorded history, the Albigensian Crusade, have been committed by people who were willing to kill and be killed for that man.
Obsessing on the existence of the historical figure of Christ vaguely resembles obsessing on the existence of a virus, where we have much more impending documentable problems to address than one that may not be resolved at all in our lifespan.
I cannot believe how many people just must bring up those wars from a thousand years ago to criticize a blessing that has uplifted millions of people, even billions of people, for centuries. The solace and comfort that the priest brought to my dying mother doesn’t make it into the history books, neither do the thousands, millions, billions of simple individual acts of kindness done by Christians throughout the years, feeding and clothing and housing and treating the illnesses of the poor, consoling the bereaved, sitting by the sick and dying and holding their hands, refraining from ire and revenge, forgiving, tolerating, understanding, all done by people because they have been taught, by religion, to do these things, not out of some natural inclination that they may or may not have had. What is it that Shakespeare said, “the evil that men do lives long after them, the good is oft interred within their bones”? I cannot recount, because the instances are so many, of all the acts of Christian goodness I have witnessed personally, that have made my own life, and the lives of my family and friends, better, more bearable, more blessed, and not a one of them made it into the newspapers or the history books.
Saying that you need Christ to be a good human being is akin to saying you need a virus to have a good pandemic.
People have been good and bad humans before Christ, during Christ and after Christ. Attributing the goodness (or badness) of people solely to a historical (or not) figure is reductive and frankly quite insulting. You imply that people can only be good only if they believe in the words by some random Palestinian who lived millenia ago.
Finally, denying the role of religions (all of them, not just the Christian one) in world affairs (including the bloody ones) is miopic to say the least.
Definitely myopic.
Religion is the reflection of psychopathic humanity and its love affair with a bunch of pyschopathic deities, real or imaginary, e.g:
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me”
Religion, like all isms, is about CONTROL.
Gullibility is only an excuse until, at a certain age, it is not.
Gullibility is subjective.
Gullibility is for a-holes.
But Religion is not necessarily belief, spirit, faith, hope and trust.
Religion is dogma.
Spirituality is something different.
Fighting wars in the name of God is propaganda.
People’s belief and trust and love of God is different than a bunch of physcopaths carrying out war in God’s name.
Anyone who knows children, knows that no-one is born with a code of morality built-in. On the contrary, we are born with the code of the jungle built-in. Careful and constant training is necessary for someone to grow up to be a human being and not an animal.
Careful and constant training is necessary for someone to grow up to be a human being and not an animal.
I totally disagree on your assessment of human nature. And I totally disagree on your implied assumption that you need Christianity to make you a good person. (Or any institutionalised religions, for what it matters)
Thank you for telling us what you disagree with.
You’re right !! All the non-Christian billions in foreign countries
must be very envious they dont have Christian inspirations for
compassion for others… They should embrace Christian Missionaries,
not cook them and eat them…
no one can be taught to be good!
if kindness and compassion only arise from a natural inclination, otherwise what you’re doing is a sham, motivated by reward-seeking or the unreflected urge to conform to societal precepts, and sooner or later this hypocrisy will out, leaving no positive effects
“no one can be taught to be good!”
Yes they can. That’s what parents are supposed to do.
Now, some people can’t be taught to be good. Bad genes cause low IQ, low impulse control etc. etc.
It’s the same as training dogs. We aren’t that different. That’s why rewarding good behaviour and punishing bad behaviour is important.
A pity Western governments are doing the opposite these days!
“A pity Western governments are doing the opposite these days!”
Are you suggesting the governments should be doing with us what we do with dogs? 😉
(Which, by the way, it is true at all levels. What is also true is that people live in the delusion that they are not being trained like dogs by very superior -and psychopatic- minds for aims that are far from good)
This is a completely inaccurate statement.
According to the Encyclopedia of Wars, out of all 1,763 known/recorded historical conflicts, 121, or 6.87%, had religion as their primary cause.[6] Matthew White’s The Great Big Book of Horrible Things gives religion as the primary cause of 11 of the world’s 100 deadliest atrocities.[7][8] Such estimates and others indicate that historically, religion was not a common source for war or conflict and that other factors played a more frequent role.[9]
If you take Islam out of the equation, it drips to something around 2 or 3%. Please see the Encyclopedia of Wars for further reference.
Wars have always been faught for the same things, resources, power and control. Religious belief has played a very small role.
You started with:
“This is a completely inaccurate statement.”
But you failed to specify which statement would that be ….
Thank you. I’ll keep your statistics in mind.
Your claim is false, and this claim is easy to document in any Court.
The 6 Commandment: “You shalt not kill”.
This message is cross checked, maintained and emphasized by Christ during the whole Bible, saying there can be absolutely no doubt about what God’s clean cut clear opinion is.
Pardon, which claim exactly?
Jonas Carling claimed:
Thanks to that figure (historical or otherwise) , other millions of people have died: the first European genocide in recorded history, the Albigensian Crusade, have been committed by people who were willing to kill and be killed for that man.
What is wrong or false with this statement?
Most importantly, what has the 6th commandment got anything to do with mass killings perpetrated in the name of god?
Your statement is akin to saying that because we have free speech written in the Constitution, it follows that censorship does not exist.
It may come as a shock to you that ethical principles written on paper and real world affairs belong to 2 different domains.
“Thanks to that figure……”, that sentence is false.
‘That figure’ has nothing to do with what idiots use for excuses for killing and murdering.
If we take your statement serious, I can claim that you caused me to kill anybody and do a lot of wrong things, because of what you wrote here on OffG. Its absurd. You see it is a false claim!
No, on the contrary the sharp difference between paper, words and reality is one of my own most important focus points.
I only want to make justice. Praise those who deserve to be praised for things justified for appraisal, and condemn those who do things justified to be condemned.
Christ has no shares in what wrong interpretations the wrong guys take from his messages, and do NOT deserve to be mixed in and be responsible for what idiots do.
You do only mention genocide and millions killed in false relation to Christ, and do not mention the tens and hundreds of millions of people’s lives in real relations to Christ saved by ‘that figure’.
I think you are splitting hairs here, making mental convoluted gymnastics to justify the obvious.
The doctrine declared by religious leaders (Christ Allah or others) is a completely different matters to how subsequently this doctrine gets used by other authorities to drive the masses to all nefarious purposes , including mass killings in the name of “god”.
This is what is meant to “Thanks to that figure…” . I never put into question of the doctrine “per se”, rather the use that’s being made for less ethical purposes. This should have been obvious to every reader, except probably you.
Well, Jesus definitely existed “as a historical figure.”
Was there a person called Jesus who actually existed and attracted attention? Probably.
Was he the son of God? That would be an ecumenical matter.
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Historians write about a man Jesus in their scriptures already decades after his death.
As also pointed out, it would be absurd to write so much about an imaginary man telling philosophic truth about life and existence.
Have you any similar examples? Clint Eastwood found and praised 500 years after his walking around in Hollywood. No, we would know he was a film figure.
A single word has done more damage upon this Earth than all other words together. It is the most evil concept humanity has ever fabricated. That word is “blasphemy.” Even today, in parts of the world, people can be killed for “blasphemy.”
Speaking ill against, or cursing, something that doesn’t even exist and was made up for the purpose of control has always been the most egregious thing a human can do.
It won’t solve all humanity’s problems, but scrapping that word is a start. It will open doors that were slammed shut millennia ago. It will allow people to start seeing things more clearly. Assuming they want to.
‘Dis-information’ is the new blasphemy…
And this happens in about 100% of cases in the oppressed by the American imperialists Africa and Asia, with Islam being an unsurpassed modern champion of this type of executions..
..But I suppose you were referring rather to Judaism and its more orthodox currents (which don’t actually carry out such executions… unless you mean the Jewish-American-Arab joke in Gaza bombing the minds of the world population with incessant pictures of the most heinous atrocity… one wonders what the reason would be? But, of course, you say that this is not part of the great reset, and there is no great reset at all, everyone is separate and feuding, the pandemic was real (you said so?) and so on. Then, on such a firm religious basis, “there is nothing that is not possible” if two or more agree to see it as real.
(…And, by the way, what is the mystery of the incredible exact coincidence between the start date of your great religion – the “massacre of Palestinians in Gaza” – and Putin’s birthday on October 7th? Does your religious canon allow for such a debate?)
Gospel of Caesar documentary.
Jesus was based on Julius Caesar… A priest and a linguist both figured it out
Caesar’s consipracy? You fished that out of the Kabbalists. Aberrations inspired by the likes of Simcha Jacobovich, Joseph Atwill and Dan Brown, mixed with apocryphal crap in Zeitgeist style.
You take all the fun out of conspiracy believing !!
Got it 🙂 However, don’t you think that the opposing side has its own anti-Christian agenda cloaked even in false atheist colors?