Quick Take…The Musk/Trump split and the new “third party”
Kit Knightly
There’s an episode of Mad Man – great series, highly recommend – where the Madison avenue ad executives of Sterling Cooper are tasked with rescuing the public reputation of a pet food brand which was just been revealed to be using horse meat in its recipes.
They suggest changing the name, which the owner flatly refuses to contemplate. He argues ALL pet food uses meat from retired horses, and people will forget in time. They executives respond by letting him sit in on a focus group. Having witnessed the violent dislike of his brand from pet owners in person, the owner agrees to the name change.
The point of the story is simple – sometimes a brand is so tarnished you have to rebrand and start again.
Which brings us to Elon Musk’s very public split with Donald Trump and the suggested “new political party”. Supposedly this is all about the “big beautiful bill” clashing with Musk’s views on efficiency and reduced spending.
Our take is rather different.
Donald Trump’s brand as a politician was simple – he was anti-establishment and America first. Libertarian isolationist. Cut spending, cut foreign aid, deregulate the market, boost US business and perhaps most importantly, no more more wars.
That’s his brand, but the reality – despite hysterical wailing and enthusiastic glazing from journalists on each side – is that it’s just more of the same.
The Trump admin has promoted digital IDs, it has stood with Israel and – probably most damagingly – it has bombed Iran. Regardless of if you believe the supposed reality of that “act of war” or not, in concept it is a massive betrayal of his base.
Essentially, the tarnishing of the Trump brand is so complete that Trumpism now needs to evolve in order to survive. We’re looking to a future of Trumpism sans Trump, which means Musk (and maybe Vance) and a third party option.
We’re at that point where everyone knows about the horse meat, and the only solution is to change the name.
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Are us Proles really so stupid that we’ll be fooled by a name change?
Sorry…rhetorical question.
Great take Kit
You called it.
What does the black maga cap mean?
I suspect that the people who have self-appointed as ‘leaders’ are laughing themselves silly that ‘We the Peeps’ have done absolutely nothing to them despite them doing just about everything possible to warrant hangings from the nearest lamp-posts. ‘They’ have raped, robbed, plundered and printed money, and we just turn the other-cheek. So of course they have turned into monsters because … we appear to be ‘okay’ with it. Well at least that is the impression that this little-black-duck is left with. HTF people like, Trump, Queer Starmer, Netanyahu and Macron can be ever thoght of as being heads-of -governments, i.e. ‘leaders’ of millions of their country-folk is more than I will ever be able to understand.
The Peeps have done many things, to us, including kicking us out of our jobs at Care Homes during the plandemicand shooting us as wartime conscientous objectors not to mention causing the waste of our time in discussing the never to be understood “why of it” here. The leaders are nothing without the Peeps.
The Peeps have done just about everything possible to warrant hangings from the nearest lamp-posts.
The 95% are 100% ‘okay’ with it. They are 100% a-holes.
The World is filled with hate.
The Christians hate the Muslims (and vice -versa)
The Muslims hate the Hindus (and vice -versa)
The Muricans hate the Chinese (and vice-versa)
The Iranaians hate the Israelis (and vice-versa)
Millwall hate West Ham (and vice-versa)
etc
etc
and we hate all of the above because they hate each other.
A World filled with hate, a masterpiece of pathetic Human groupthink by design, presumably.
And You hate them all!
No I think like me he hates the designers.
And tom&jerry who killed each other without a thought in the first world war and the controllers.
In totality:
The designers, the 95% & the 0.00001%.
Latest: In a 218-to-214 vote, the House passed a sweeping bill to extend tax cuts and slash social safety net programs.Two Republicans voted no with all Democrats.
Let the fall of US bonds + $ begin, all party day!! The Demos only voted against as it came from Trump, they love a spend spree as much as any woke wife.
Can US based credit rating agencies be trusted to reflect the naked truth? Don’t bet your bottom dollar, they barely left the AAA on USA.
Elon is not as smart as he thinks he is and not at all trust-worthy (he banned me from his “free speech” version of Twitter many months ago, for the crime of speaking freely). E. Musk Jr should learn his trade politically by going back to his homeland and taking over Africa before he tries to form a third party in America. With the current US electoral system, third parties have a long history of not working.
Not so long ago (4 years back)
Refusing a vaccine or 4 and not wearing an mask
not scanning your phone to gain entry into an establishment,
breaking the “rule of six”. not quarantining after your friend family tested positive.
Refusing a swab, Refusing to test.
Attending an demonstration.
Could of landed you in a place like this.
Migrants today. You ANTI lot tommorrow.
LIVING PROOF, TIME SERVED:
Jailed, 1 day, followed by 3 days, RDP.
052920-060120
Perhaps Musk really should be deported. I know, not realistic at all, probably not really legal, and merely hype to make him somehow look like a rebel. Let him go to the EU as they’re going to be ramping up defense spending, I’m sure he can get some lucrative contracts out of that. How utterly sickening. The very idea that this guy is some genius, who is going to save America from itself, I find one of the most willfully naive things I have ever seen, and after covid that’s saying something. Sure, he’s bright, but really, just how super bright does one have to be to say some of the “brilliant” things this guy spews? “The US is going bankrupt.” Duh… As if he would come in and right the ship, or even really try in any honest way. Did DOGE get near the Pentagon? Nope. All that bleating about the Big Beautiful Bill and fighting with the rump on and off. Theater for the rubes.
Melon Husk (to borrow from Rolling Rock, love it!) did NOT get to the position he is in without serious backing, a lot from DARPA of course but there are other agencies as well as big connections. He did not single handedly invent the EV, nor rockets, nor the chips he wants to put in human brains. He too is built on hype, the hype surrounding “the richest man in the world” as if that is a good thing. Openly threatening to “primary” any of our already compromised politicians and people think that’s good too, not bothering to realize you’ve got one of the oligarch class opening stating he can select anyone he wants for public office. And he can. They do. What a joke. Idiocracy writ large. A third party? He’d most likely have to have AI manage that if it were even possible, and we surely see by now whatever that became it would not be to our favor.
Old Bill Gates was so much better: he saved humanity with his injections right?
Hardly, but there’s that team sports mentality in action, say nasty things about a guy on one side that must mean you’re cheering on the other.
Gates belongs in a cell, as do Fauci and all the others who participated in the covid lies. Too bad we won’t see him and all the rest safely tucked away in Alligator Alcatraz, or Gator Gitmo as I heard one pundit put it. So, while we can’t deport him and all those experts, it would serve them right to be put in the worst possible facility one could think of at the present moment. While others may feel the gallows would be a better solution, that’s too quick in my opinion for what these people truly deserve.
In the spirit of my rant about Mr Husk, Gates did NOT invent Microsoft on his own without funding from all those alphabet agencies either. His original seed money was from InQ-Tel if I remember correctly, an admitted CIA cutout. Not to mention how much of his work there was outright stolen from others, sort of exposed with all those anti-trust suits. He did not invent those shots and did not need to really know one thing about them while out there on all those “news” shows extolling their virtues, while being treated as a public health expert. He’s a known criminal in many parts of the world, who likes to do his “product” testing in parts of the “Third World” where there’s no legal liability for how much damage he does, and most of those crimes are never even known in the “First World.” And yes, the very idea anyone ever thought he was somehow an expert on health is another sick joke, but as we are taught from birth to worship the filthy rich it’s hardly surprising. In some ways we can think of Gates as a precursor to Elon – one more wealthy wonderboy, worshipped for his wealth and brilliance but really nothing but one more corrupt, not all that bright, overhyped minion doing the work of the oligarch class.
His jabs were as bad as his software.
Reposted from early March.
We lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment.
The current phase of the plan is beginning to reveal itself; that is, the take-down of the Putinista faction of MAGA. There will be people placed within the Trump team who know what’s going on, but most will be unaware. I suspect that Trump is knowingly playing his assigned role, but it’s possible that he’s unwitting. [I later inclined more to the view that Trump is clueless.]
This course was probably not an original part of the plan, but was decided in the second half of 2023 following the attempted usurpation by the Putinista. Specific instances in this attempt include the partial hijacking of the GOP primary process by Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson; and likewise the failed coup in the ousting and selection of the House speaker. Now, however, they believe that victory is within their grasp.
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The RINOs Never Learn, So They Are About to Find Out
Charlie Kirk
Feb 21, 2025
Lets see if Trump pushes back on this – the EU doesn’t want the truth out there.
“The formerly voluntary Code of Conduct on Disinformation, which was integrated into the Digital Services Act (DSA) by Brussels earlier this year, became mandatory as of July 1. Under the law, major online platforms and search engines, mostly owned by US tech firms, are obliged to follow EU content rules or face penalties.”
Admit it, folks. You were conned. I know its difficult for people to admit to themselves, let alone to others, that they were ‘had’ but facing the fact is the first step to fixing things. Take solace that Elon Musk, someone who is obviously very clever (whatever you think of him personally) got taken in by all the MAGA hoopla. In fact he didn’t just get taken, in he got used. Big Time.
Trump is just a symbol, though. He is where he is because he’s the ideal ‘useful idiot’ — an egotist that’s not interested in policy details that’s easily manipulated through flattery. I don’t think he knows, for example, what the “ICE Irregulars” — those paramilitary units terrorizing our cities — are up to, for example. Its the people driving these policies that are the problem, they’ve been patiently working at this for literally decades but with what aim I can’t fathom. (For example, there is a strong religious element based around “Christian Zionism, Second Coming etc.” but its difficult to reconcile their goals with national policy apart from it meshing closely with modern Zionism.)
Both Parties have been horse-meating us since post WW2. Any third party has always been used to shoehorn in or excuse, the “right” or “left” Binary Party, that they want during that 4 year period. John Anderson, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader and periodic flows toward Greens or Progressives. Greens have been incrementally Dem provocateur sabotaged for four decades and are virtually dead. All narratives, stories, are leveraged to obtain or rationalize the Pendulum to Nowhere Party System boiling us slowly. Changing names, Twitter to X, Blackwater to Z, Progressives to Sellouts (Obama was the teaser start), has been going on forever in infinite ways that include words (memes) swapped out to “brand new” models, tweaked and spun dry, y’all know what I mean.
It’s not until we stop our Hopium comas that these Animal Farm “leaders” actually want to act on behalf of the social needs of Humanity, rather than serve the profitability of the 1%, and assemble and prosecute 99% SOLUTIONS to 99% PROBLEMS and totally ignore these fools. Get together. Define the REAL problems and hash our REAL solutions, be damned the rich!
As a local example the State of Oregon is now in serious budget deficit after tax revenues have sunk after personal income has dropped in our wonderful hijacked-for-the-rich economy. The income tax rate is the worst indexed imaginable, making most below $1M pay 6.6% and those over, 7.6%. Wow! One whole percent point more. Just so people with $800,000 in disposable income can continue to live like kings and queens! Taxing the Rich & Corporate, proportionately was abandoned after me-me-me Reagan cheer-led the voter rats off the cliff, for the 1%. Still, 45 years later, there is not one US politician who will honestly and dedicatedly prosecute proportional taxation (+ gut the military empire) and make those who can pay with zero harm, refund a drained Public Commons. 45 years of the swamp draining us, has made the US socially penniless. The solutions are not rocket science, just common sense. But here come the Gollumy whiners… crying in their milk how they will be so deprived!
Trump is no different from the other PTB puppet Presidents, oh he may act as though he is, but when push comes to shove, his wealthy Zionist backers who put him where he is in the first place, just yank his chain and boom he falls into line – of course he must’ve realised this from his first term as POTUS – Trump is in essence a businessman he see the world through balance sheet eyes – in an ideal world he might have made a bit of difference, but not in this one, in this one he’s just another predictable POTUS, whose strings might be a little bit slacker, but are nonetheless being pulled from behind the cutain.
I thought this post about Kennedy was worth posting. It will be lost if I put it in the last RFK thread:
https://brownstone.org/articles/kennedy-and-medical-wearables-a-clarification/
He returns to be the decent person he is. Thus he do not drown in Trump hate. His idea, on a voluntary base, is good.
It returns as the total scumbag which it is
RFK:
https://youtu.be/waWKTvwEtBc?t=162
Your admiration for it, IT and similar has no psychopathic bound.
As usual you are scating over the issue, leaving it to me and others to dig 1 or 2 more times in it to find out what is behind, and when you have been shown the door, you just find another fragment to masturbate over.
Not serious, very unfair to misuse your own and other people’s time on bs.
Much more decent than masturbating over your preferred YHWH psycho.
No need to be grumpy because your knees are buggered – self inflicted.
Nice link who clearly shows RBK is right against a bunch of ignorant people.
Children’s deceases like measles m.m. comes form within the child, not from outside.
These children’s deceases are nature build up and strengthening of the children’s own immune system.
But Liberals found a way to earn money on “doing it better than God” and give children unnecessary vaccines against something completely natural.
Again you see things on its head and not the true platform.
Jaysus,
you’ll be saying that human immunodeficiency virus is even more real than voken SARS-CoV-2 again, in a minute.
Have you a picture of this “immune system” or did St Peter reveal it in a-n-other dream in which he also said “grovel and you can count yourself with a predestinated mafia mansion in a house soon”.
In any case, only oneself to blame (assuming that free will is a thing, of course).
Even the Liberal b’stards couldn’t design a more corrupt creation than YHWH.
Yes I have a picture of our immune system designed by our Great Father. A fantastic design.
I know I am throwing pearl for swine. You are too rude.
Why TF are male nipples not on that picture.
Nipples are not part of the immune defence system. But here is another especially for you: https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/c265ccdaeb878d7a669f8c06a9808a07
No offense to Mr. Kennedy, but come on. You don’t say what he said without being fully aware of the ramifications.
This was a nice back-pedal.
And just one more thing we can clutch pearls about while the nightmare of the past 5 years goes unaddressed.
Musk is your typical bog-standard, US all-promise, no substance Salesman importer.
Import it from abroad and claim it all as your own innovation once-upon-a-time. Otherwise why proclaim an innovation as ‘Tesla’. As if nobody had ever heard of the name before? Really
It still fools some. And why not. Life is short. By the time people have worked it out, you’re long gone, and the obscene fortune with it. The all promise-no-substance long-forgotten.
So who’s the sucker really?
Some of the wisdom of Peter Thiel:
“I would define the middle class as the people who expect their kids to do better than themselves. And when that expectation collapses, we no longer have a middle-class society. Maybe there’s some way you can have a feudal society”
“We should take a lot more risk.”
“They thought we would have radical life extension. Immortality was part of the project of early modernity. It was Francis Bacon, Condorcet. Maybe it was anti-Christian”
“we took the whole company to a freezing party…. You could get a full body or just a head.”
“a transsexual is someone where you change your, I don’t know, penis into a vagina. And we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more transformation than that. The critique is not that it’s weird and unnatural, it’s: Man, it’s so pathetically little.”
“the way I understand the Judeo-Christian inspiration is it is about transcending nature.”
“I had a conversation with Elon a few weeks ago about this. He said we’re going to have a billion humanoid robots in the U.S. in 10 years”.
There’s a lot more – like some incomprehensible word salading on Antichrist/Armageddon – but most telling is his lengthy pause on “should the human race survive?”….
Still, he wears a nice T-shirt so he’s totally one of us and not an insane oligarch.
Peter Thiel did make the odd good comment about freedom being indicated by the number of independent countries in the world, so maybe don’t bite his head off too much
As long as he still knows there is something called Antichrist and he can make references to passages in the Bible.
He also recall bs visions from the past, so I would not condemn him right away.
Er, previously described as “like some incomprehensible word salading” i.e. same sort of gobbledygook as your own.
As it stands, the answer to the question after the long pause is a resounding “no”.
Did you have a good masturbation last night, sore knees again this morning though (last reference to that for now unless, of course, you wish to continue along theline).
Fact is the Bible is the most read book on the planet. Fact is 90% of this planet’s population have a God or some kind of spiritual leader in their lives.
So to get along with most people you at least need to know main stories of the Bible to be able to communicate with them on their platform of concepts.
You see too many porn movies. Lay off and go out a run a bit. 5 km and back.
Fact is, 95% of people on the planet are psycho worshipping w*nkers.
What the majority of this boils down to is choices (or lack of choices as the game dictates). Whilst some may be willing to enter an atomised digital ‘world’, some don’t.
so long as Israel remains the bad guy, and Iran the good guy, then it’s all good. That what’s makes us alternative after all.
It makes us free. Free thinkers. Or free-fallin’. At least one of the two:
Tom Petty – Free Fallin’
What if they are both bad , what if they are working together? , what if they belong to the same secret societies? Of course I’m talking about the political class in both Countries
I think the “split” is purely for public consumption. Musks association with Trump was undoubtedly doing damage to his business interests (Tesla etc) I suspect they agreed to have a public fallout as a damage limitation exercise for Musk
Trump- puppet
Musk- puppet
The real questions are: Is there one puppeteer or two? and which banker is pulling whose strings?
This rather funny
What great role models for the millennials.
The world will be saved after all.
‘When Black Friday comes, I think I’ll change my name.’ Steely Dan
Of the two it is Trump who has gone off track, due to US MIC (both Military and Medical) tug-ging. A shot in the own foot by the latter, trillions of more -$$$ will wreck the US casino capitalism.
MIC ghouls are not tied to any nation, where will they migrate next? Back to Beijing?
I am amazed by the many who are pessed on Trump because he threw these cluster buster bombs in the desert…..again. Baddy baddy Trump.
Yeah, they make impossible, really impossible, almost an insured impossibility
“The Tesla Robotaxi”….
https://insideevs.com/features/764077/tesla-robotaxi-ford-lfp-podcast/
Does have the same hallmarks of Steve Bannon and Trump in 2016.
Bannon says the things Trump wouldn’t say and does the things Trump wouldn’t do
then Trump cuts Bannon off and calls him sloppy Steve.
Everything early on gets blamed on Steve.
Fake 3rd Party more right wing than Trump.
More right wing than Reformed.
More ADF
Israel did exactly that.
But the problem exist if Bannon in real life is sloppy yes?
And if Musk really was too far out in his demand for forced EV by law yes?
How much spiritual nourishment do we get from our environment? If not, who or what prevents us from doing so?
“I have a very demanding wife who wants to be served around the clock!” This is where spiritual development is inhibited.
“My wife supports me in my mental independence by leaving me alone for hours without bothering me!” Optimal.
Some good news for a change:
Judging by the consistent downvoting on recent articles, there must be a lot of Bimbos and Jimbos reading Off G.
Welcome Folks! The beer and potato chips are in the corner.
We are so happy you’ve finally seen the error of your ways.
Minus 12 !
C’mon, you can do better than that.
Hey!
It’s not my fault if the chips are stale and the beer is warm.
Not sure.
It does reflect just how many a-holes frequent the place.
However, if these can be considered the “thinking” a-holes just imagine the state of the mind of the balance of the 95% of humanity with no thought to come here at all.
It’s probably safer to call it “voken scary news“.
There seems to be a lot of influencers who want people to believe
Daddy trump is a Liar, who want people to believe Daddy Trump
didnt “Completely And Totally Obliterate” (CATO) Iran’s nuclear
caves…
And seems they want to convince Daddy Trump to go and Finish
the Iranian Job – using nukes… They’ll stop making Daddy Trump
out to be a Liar – if he does what they want…
And here was me wondering if it wouldnt better suit the USA’s ME
interests to drop it’s trouble-making ally, The Only Democracy In
The ME, and buddy up to Iran, ’cause a friendly Iran would really
put a Spaniard in the Works of the BRICS plans for the ME…
What is BRICS plan for ME?
So far I have only seen Russia selling MIG-19 and other weapons to the new Al-Qaida President in Syria. So I assume everybody is in for the Great I….. Project.
I read i JP that Ahmed al-Sharaa invited Israel to Syria to see the conditions.
After the show, Syria’s Al-Qaida and Israel made an JV Agreement that Syria are in need of BIG usury loans for re-constrution. Who would have thought of that?
Well, BRICS plan for ME than you?
the MIC Establishment totally suppressed Trump’s MAGgi in his term and after; now in his second term they again get the upper hand. Trump’s noodles can default the MIC into a debt trap out of their control – a good thing. A multicultural world needs a US and China cut to size.
Of course what comes around goes around too naturally
Better U$ disrupting combo than Biden – Gates, the old Establishment.
Everyone’s connected.
No one’s really there.
Two voices type into the void—
and call it conversation.
Lost Soul 1: Hello? Is anyone out there?
Lost Soul 2: Yes, I’m here! Are you a sandwich?
Lost Soul 1: A sandwich? No, I’m a person! Are you lost too?
Lost Soul 2: I’m not sauce, but I do feel spicy.
Lost Soul 1: Spicy? Wait, where are you?
Lost Soul 2: I’m next to a tree that smells like Tuesdays.
Lost Soul 1: Tuesdays don’t have a smell! Are you near the big rock?
Lost Soul 2: My socks are not rocks, but they are big.
Lost Soul 1: I don’t care about your socks! Can you see the river?
Lost Soul 2: I can see forever, but only when I close my eyes.
Lost Soul 1: This is hopeless. I’m going to shout for help.
Lost Soul 2: Please don’t shout, my ears are allergic to loud noises.
Lost Soul 1: Fine, I’ll whisper. Help!
Lost Soul 2: Thank you. Now, do you have any cheese?
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When the voting option was between Communist or Capitalist parties, up popped
the Social Democrats, ie.”The Third Way”…
When voters were starting moving left, up popped The Greens, ie. “The Third Way”…
Will Mr Elon call his “The Third Way” threat “Reform. USA” ?
I would have never thought it would come to this, the richest man in the world, ever, being considered by many as a savior from our eternal servitude to the rich. The irony is off the charts.
To me, it’s not that difficult and it was resolved long ago: “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government”. That was from the Declaration of Independence. (Why are people so hung up on the Constitution but completely disregard the Declaration?). That certainly doesn’t mean creating another political party, within the current form of government, headed by another psycho billionaire that can’t compete within this constitutionally driven “representative” system, which is completely and utterly controlled by the oligarchy who fight and argue amongst themselves while the rest of us have no say other than to vote for one or the other. The system is simply un-democratic and that will not change without extreme actions.
I wonder if it can ever happen, i.e., another major “declaration of independence” and the institution of a new government? Doesn’t seem likely at this point. Abolishing or substantially changing our political systems is just too far out there now for people to handle and the controllers certainly would sabotage any attempt to do so. I think it’s surprising how so few politically active and against oligarchy focus on or even explore this option. However, there are some, so the fire hasn’t been put out. You never know.
Even by Melon Husk’s own admission he is “cash poor”. His wealth is tied up in stocks, much of it pledged as collateral to the banks for personal loans.
https://cointelegraph.com/learn/articles/elon-musks-net-worth-breakdown
The idea that this guy runs all these companies with sky high market valuations including Space X which is a private company with no publicly traded shares, is farcical.
The richest families list mentions some names but excludes others that should be in the list.
For example, the description of the British royal family (not to be confused with the Crown Corporation) on Investopedia reads:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/052416/top-10-wealthiest-families-world.asp
I believe that Mr Husk is a front man, whether he really has that wealth or the share (stock) holdings were simply registered in his name to create the impression of richest man, we do not know.
Either way, what the public are told about the richest people/families is not the same as the controlling interests of the serious wealth particularly tangible assets such as land and property which can be hidden through complex financial arrangements including trusts passed down through the generations.
Fake ‘enemies’, or should that be enemas?
Government is now the sole cause of war and permanent poverty. If humanity does not jettison this institution very soon, it will be made extinct by it. It may have already happened. At any rate, due to recent technological advances, it is now too dangerous to continue on in this completely irrational, self-imposed slavery.
A Turd by any other name is _ _ _ _
(Apologies to the Bard, whoever he was).
Political parties end up serving the moneyed interests who demand a return on their investment.
“Throughout his political life, and until his death in 1799, George Washington was confident that the country could and should function without the existence of political parties”. <link>
All high-level politicians are stooges, role playing actors masquerading as leaders while the private Central Banks make loans to the Corporation that descends further into bankruptcy.
‘Trump Musk’
“A new perfume for the people!”
The rift, real or not, between the government and Musk is not the only ruckus happening between the controllers and members of government.
News: Here’s an unconfirmed plot to get rid of RFK as Secretary of Health:
The document opens with a blunt political calculation: Kennedy’s candidacy threatens investor confidence, regulatory predictability, and the long-term viability of the vaccine business. BIO leadership in the apparent leaked document states plainly: “It is time to go to The Hill and lobby that it is time for RFK Jr to go.”
But RFK Jr. wants to rebrand the vaxx-industrial-complex as ‘safe and effective’. Don’t they appreciate what he’s doing for them?
How convenient. Just as RFK serves his fans one betrayal after another (the almost funny fruit loops were soon followed by more sinister wearables and now AI to do away with vaccine trials), here’s some BS conspiracy theory to make said fans believe he’s really getting to ‘them’.
What a joke. I initially pitied the man for how he was being humiliated. No more.
I agree about RFKs mixed messaging. He’s compromised to be sure but I think even his watered down opinions about vaccines (MMR – good; mRNA not so good) may be too much for the INDUSTRY). I’ve said from the get go of his joining the team that he can’t be trusted. He always said he just wanted safer vaccines…
From red lester https://brownstone.org/articles/kennedy-and-medical-wearables-a-clarification/ .
Sad that RFK can get such a bad reputation just because a single sentence in the media.
RFK has my 100% backing.
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A new party? Really?!
… A new country is required.
Anyone who names their kid after a CIA airplane or rocket’s a shoe-in!
I suppose that hardly anyone remembers Ralph Nader’s dubious 2009 “thought experiment” meditation, Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us! It was a work of fiction, which Nader described as a “practical utopia”.
I never read it, but the gist of his idealistic vision is that Nader (no pauper himself) personally knew “super-rich” individuals who were patriotic and altruistic citizens, not malignant predatory wealth/powermongers. He speculated that if a nucleus or cadre of such virtuous super-rich citizens used their considerable wealth and influence to promote sociopolitical reforms, it might just have the clout to successfully challenge the corrupt and decadent Establishment.
In 1995, super-rich Ross Perot founded The Reform Party of the United States of America (RPUSA), generally known as the Reform Party USA or the Reform Party, as a “centrist political party” appealing to the plurality of US citizens fed up with the Democratic/Republican duopoly. It quickly became the stuff of history.
Now super-rich Musk is promising, or threatening, to repeat this performance. I’m sure that loyal Musk fans and admirers will scoff at the comparison and parallel. They will argue that younger, more “dynamic” Musk has resources and charisma orders of magnitude greater than Perot. We were only waiting for this moment to arrive!
But even the flashy Musk’s persona and popularity seem to have reached a point of diminishing returns lately. And that’s only one problem. For reasons that are too extensive to reduce to comment-length (even for me!), for structural reasons a “maverick” third party can never acquire enough momentum to achieve political escape velocity.
So, Musk’s proposed new third party is just another sociopolitical MacGuffin: “an object, event, or character in a film or story that serves to set and keep the plot in motion, and within the story is considered extraordinarily meaningful or valuable despite it lacking actual intrinsic value or importance“.
Of course, if Musk actually pursues this chimera, it will generate sensational mass-media (including social media) coverage for a while. This will end anticlimactically, when the capricious Musk soon tires of this latest crusade, abruptly washes his hands of it, and walks away. 🤨
I remember reading a review of Nader’s book over at the old CounterPunch, well before they purged all their decent people around 2017. IIRC, Alexander Cockburn was still alive then. It was a good publication when he ran it, even if he didn’t like 9/11 Truthers.
Political propaganda is the perpetual pet food for the populations of pet people.
Precisely.
AdVance the dark horse, knight to king2. Fair is dark and lies are true.
Not according to this poll!
https://nypost.com/2025/06/18/us-news/maga-voters-overwhelmingly-support-us-strikes-on-iranian-military-poll
MAGA voters overwhelmingly support US strikes on Iranian military: poll
By Ryan King
Published June 18, 2025
An overwhelming number of self-described “MAGA Republicans” would back US strikes against Iranian military outposts and other infrastructure amid Israel’s military campaign against the theocratic regime, a new poll found.
A whopping 65% of “MAGA Republicans” would back strikes on Iran, compared to a paltry 19% opposed, which even eclipses the support for such military action among more traditional Republicans, according to a J.L. Partners survey shared exclusively with The Post.
By contrast, self-described “traditional” Republicans would back strikes against Iran 51% to 28%. Meanwhile, Republican voters writ large would support the US government launching strikes on Iran by 58% to 25%, with 17% neutral or unsure, per the poll.
“This poll makes clear: the Republican base is not isolationist. They back forceful U.S. and Israeli action to stop Iran, and see Israel’s fight as America’s fight,” James Johnson, co-founder of the New York-based J.L. Partners, assessed in a statement.
The poll also found that 73% of Americans overall believe that a nuclear-armed Iran “cannot be allowed.”
The J.L. Partners survey was taken from June 16-17 and sampled 1,039 registered voters with an oversample of 624 Republicans.
“MAGA voters overwhelmingly support US strikes on Iranian military”
Of course they do, in exactly the same way as most a-holes in Iran rolled up their sleeves even before the co-n-vid jab was mandated for work/military.
The proles&controllers make a great team.
I was one of those who voted you up here lu1. Sometimes your comments make sense. After I educated you.
The MAGAites and Trump groupies are too bamboozled and hoodwinked to comprehend what is actually going on! Trump is the darling of celebrity politics he’s a modern day Ronald Reagan a creature created by the media. There is no one like him on the horizon for either party and third parties never win because they can’t get on the ballots of most states due to red tape, lawfare and the Good Ol’ Boy network. This is not to say resistance is futile, to the contrary it is alive, it has to be smart, well thought out, fluid and flexible.
Bring on the Trumpton Riots.
One could say the same thing about Musk also largely a Media creation…indeed our consensus reality is now just one big Media Spectacle…Perhaps the disaffected Maga base, are the 30% Antiwar Libertarians , and genuine anti War left, we were reading about after 2016 , those who fell for Trumps anti Imperialist theatrical schitck.
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I thought the plan was clear all along.
Make one cheek of the uni-party arse so abhorrent the serfs will vote for anything that claims they’ll change things for the better. In steps the other cheek of the same Corporate arse, people get excited. The promises are backtracked on, people get angry. Party ejects the leader or Ketchupgate III is executed. In steps the smiling people person vice president to fix everything…By installing full blown digital fascism. Problems solved, for the Corporation’s
Would it be too optimistic to think that it’s becoming harder for the controlled opposition to control the narrative?
If you ask me, this one’s pretty simple: Simulate discord to be able to create a “new” party – which will be fully under control, of course. It’s another good cop/bad cop-scenario. Under whose control? Well, under control of technocrats, of course. Because that has been the endgame for quite some time now: A shift from the established political systems to technocratic governance. Not that there weren’t already enough technocrats in the administration of the technocratic trojan horse called Donald “Make America the greatest technate of the world” Trump. But maybe this is the beginning of something else. On the other hand, it could just be another whim of the emotionally “immature” Elon Musk, as one of his ex-girl friends called him. 😄