Explained: The UK’s Potentially Terrifying Criminal Justice “Reforms”
Kit Knightly
Plans to reform the UK’s criminal justice system – including the scrapping of jury trials for some offences and reduced sentences for those who plead guilty – are all part of larger “reforms” that would empower tyrannical authoritarianism.
Former senior judge and current Investigatory Powers Commissioner Brian Leveson made the news this week with the publication of his report recommending, among other things, “jury-free” trials, in order to “prevent the collapse of the criminal justice system”.
Note the language, by the way. “Jury-free“, not “jury-less“, as if juries are a food additive we should avoid, rather than a right guaranteed in British law for over 800 years.
This is not new. “Replacing”, “updating” or otherwise “reforming” Jury trials has been on the worldwide agenda for years now.
Within weeks of “Covid” starting, Scotland moved to suspend jury trials entirely (a move so unpopular they reversed it within 24 hours). At the same time, noted lawyers wrote opinion pieces for the Guardian headlined:
“Coronavirus has stopped trials by jury, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing”
Also in the Guardian, Simon Jenkins wrote that Covid had presented an “opportunity” to get rid of the old-fashioned jury trial system. He repeated the idea in another column a couple of months ago.
Less than a year later, Scotland wanted to waive jury trials again, this time in rape cases, to “protect the victim”. They scrapped that plan, too.
Not long after that, in the US, the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict caused the predictable pundits to rant and rave about the “broken” jury system.
In January 2023, the French government announced it would be scrapping jury trials for rape cases and all crimes with a maximum sentence of 15-20 years, citing a need to clear the backlog and make the court system more efficient.
Academic papers are even discussing the possibility of replacing jurors with ChatGPT-like artificial intelligences. A possibility too horrendous to contemplate.
Abolishing jury trials is like censorship, surveillance or digital ID – it’s a lid that fits every pot.
I don’t know what the powers-that-shouldn’t-be have against jury trials specifically, but it’s easy to speculate that the potential lack of control is an anathema to our ruling institutions and the rigidly patrolled society they are trying to create.
In the end, the motivation is as immaterial as the agenda is obvious.
Rather aptly, like a murder trial, lack of knowledge of motive doesn’t override direct evidence, and the evidence is clear: Jury trials are in the crosshairs.
However, there’s a lot more to it than that.
Goodbye, right to appeal
Leveson’s recommendations extend beyond jury trials; we covered them when they were first “leaked” back in April, but the final report is even worse than expected.
It takes aim at the Right to Appeal as well [emphasis added]:
I begin by recommending that the automatic right to appeal from the magistrates’ court to the Crown Court should be replaced with a requirement for a defendant to apply for permission to appeal.
incentivizing guilty pleas
The report also suggests offering up to 40% reductions in sentencing for early guilty pleas:
Although this is ultimately a matter for the government or the Sentencing Council, I would recommend an increase to the maximum reduction for entering a guilty plea to 40% (if made at the first available opportunity)
Combine this with the knowledge you’ll be tried by a judge (or tribunal) rather than a jury, and that’s a system directly incentivising pleading guilty.
A recipe for a huge increase in convictions.
But there’s more, and it goes beyond this report to the broader story of our criminal justice system. To see it you have to take a step back and see the big picture, like at the end of The Usual Suspects.
Long-term Propaganda
The narrative push for “reform” of the justice system is old, and the propaganda drive justifying it is even older.
Articles and reports complaining about the price, unfairness, and length of jury trials go back twenty-five years or more.
We’ve had literally years of propaganda bemoaning the low conviction rate for rape and sexual assault. We’ve had years of propaganda saying that alleged victims of rape and sexual assault need to be “protected” – including suggestions of testifying in secret, not being subject to cross-examination, and removing jury trials.
The intention was clearly to tee up this report (or one like it), which claims we should scrap jury trials and incentivize guilty pleas, specifically mentioning sexual assault.
This is an example of trying to establish what I would call the propaganda of illusory success. You create a fake issue from thin air and then claim your “reforms” have fixed it, generating praise for the scheme in the captive media that camouflages both the actual aims and real harms of the plan.
It works especially well when tied to identity politics or other emotive issues.
More broadly, the list of offences for which the report suggests scrapping juries is quite obviously cynically chosen to control the conversation. Sexual assault, drunk driving, animal cruelty, child pornography and incest. These are crimes that carry a social stigma such that a) the public generally assumes anyone accused is guilty, and b) nobody will want to be seen criticizing the reform, for fear of being labelled a child pornography/animal cruelty apologist.
Hate speech convictions
It’s not mentioned in the Leveson report, but a good percentage of the alleged “backlog” in court cases is due to a huge increase in “malicious communications” offenses. Over 12,000 people per year are arrested for social media posts etc., more than double the pre-pandemic numbers.
Increasing the number and types of criminalised behaviours will inevitably increase the number of “criminals”.
Prison reform
Prison “reform” is a major part of the plan for the future, too. Since Labour won the election last year, there has been a constant drizzle of “prison crisis” stories.
In March, we were warned of a “prison system in crisis” and that could collapse by 2026 if “rapid action” was not taken. The same month, Labour were “forced” to implement “Operation Safeguard” to deal with prison overflow.
Last month, a report claimed “overcrowded prisoners fuel prisoner violence”.
In September of last year, Labour very publicly released hundreds of criminals early in order to “ease overcrowding” (and make room for those newly convicted for “social media offences” following the incredibly fake “riots”). They later admitted to releasing dangerous criminals “by mistake”.
Why did this story hit the headlines? Why wouldn’t they do this in secret?
Because the outrage is part of the story. Because you’re being offered a false choice.
“Oh you don’t want us to release criminals onto the streets? I guess we’d better reform the justice system and increase our prisoner capacity then.” (And indeed, “Digital ID will help us track these released prisoners!”)
What will the proposed prison “reform” look like?
Well, for starters, it will be prison expansion rather than reform. That has already been confirmed.
Secondly, we probably can expect increased privatisation. The UK already has the most private prisons in Europe, with 17 of England’s 122 prisons, holding 18% of the prisoners, being run privately.
The first of Labour’s four new prisons, HMP Millsike, is already complete and is confirmed to be privately run (and “green” too, yay!)
It will be hard sell for a Labour government already seen as betraying its base on winter fuel payments, benefits and more, but it was Blair’s government that saw the UK’s first real surge in private prisons, and Keir is very much Blair jnr.
In summary
So, what can we conclude?
Let’s bullet point exactly what our “reformed” justice system might look like:
- Increase in criminalised behaviour (“hate speech” etc.)
- No jury trials for certain offenses, or any charges carrying a minimum sentence of 2 years or less.
- Incentivised guilty pleas.
- No automatic right of appeal.
- Expanded and increasingly privatised prison system.
In headlines up and down the country, Leveson has claimed the measures outlined in his report are needed to “prevent the collapse of our criminal justice system”.
But these measures ARE the collapse of the criminal justice system.
And the start of a criminal justice system.
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Superb article. Kit hits the nail on the head yet again.
He even tackled this particularly hot potato…
Exactly.
One can see this “protection” of the alleged “victim” in the case of hapless Mark Pearson, falsely accused of sexual assault by the actress Souad Faress. He was put through Hell, while she was never prosecuted for making up the allegations. The CPS tried to fit him up by deliberately altering the playback speed of the relevant CCTV footage (link), and when the jury acquitted Mark Pearson on all charges, the CPS refused even to apologise to him. …While Souad Faress, his lying accuser, was granted protection in the form of anonymity and (according to an interview I heard) even received compensation for being a “victim”.
This is all part of an agenda, explained here by the excellent Erin Pizzey.
Not only does this site suck – full of pretentious little bloggers.
Think you’ve done your bit with the Covid Crap – and ignore the Ukraine debacle and what it really means.
And what’s all this crap – it should be Gaza, Gaza, Gaza.
Bernhard at Moon of Alabama – outshines you all. You should be re-posting this stuff instead of your own scribblings.
Head line this !!!
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/famine-in-palestine.html
No Liability for the Chemical Industry
The U.S. House of Representatives Appropriations Committee is scheduled to meet this Tuesday, July 22 to vote on the Appropriations Bill which contains extremely troubling provisions quietly added into the proposed legislation. These provisions are designed to shield the chemical industry from liability from harms to farmers and consumers while restricting the Environmental Protection Administration’s (EPA) ability to protect citizens from harmful exposures.
Anybody know if this passed?
Rfk and Trump wont let this happen.
The Appropriations Bill was approved by the Committee with a vote of 33 to 28.
https://appropriations.house.gov/
It passed. Bought politicians did what bought politicians are bought to do.
If somehow the legislature passes such provisions into law, the UK & World as we know it are in great peril. The legal system globally is already fractured as is, such a provision will only compound the damage already inflicted.
Trial by troikas like in Stalin USSR. Gulag.
All of this is completely Illegal under common Law THE ONLY LAW In fact Legislation in contradiction of Common Law is logically Illegal, as its BREAKING the existing Law and any Legislation which is in line with common Law, is completely redundant, why do you need a piece of legislation when the common Law crime already exists to prosecute them ?
Well the answer is simple lets take for example Some company poisoning a river, politicians would have you believe the act of poisoning isn’t a crime under common Law (it most certainly is) and that we need them to come to our rescue, the second thing they achieve is lessening the sentence for their mates who own these poisoning companies, instead of a 15 year jail sentence, the new sentence is a small percentage of their profits and a hearty slap on the wrist.
There is not a single wrong doing which cant be dealt with the correct application of Common Law, for those still on the left right hamster wheel (which is not many here thankfully) For the left companies damaging Public property and poisoning rivers, those are crimes under common Law and for those on the right Mass immigration would be considered theft of public land and trespass. You don’t need legislation its nothing more than the public declaration of the criminality of politicians.
bullshit and using a BBC as reference is more bullshit.
and it being reposted in alt media (msms +) is just as bullshit as MSM.
The story is fake and fake videos of idiots standing out side a prison gate (think Tommy psyop)
does not quantify to being in prison.
If southport was a psyop then would not the rest if it be just as bullshit as the psyop like prisoners being released or arrested for posting.
So, the article says huge numbers are being arrested for social media posts. And you suggest nobody is being arrested. And the ones saying the social media posters are being arrested are supposed to be the good guys, fighting for free speech or something. I am very cornfused.
The object of the exercise is very clear, the state (those behind mass immigration) want you to be scared to speak out against mass immigration on social media, so they put it about using their media, that you’ll be arrested and sentenced to 10 years in jail if you do.
Only because it’s completely fictional they dont have to deal with Lawyers and solicitors who would make mincemeat out of the government, and they don’t have friends and family beating down the gates.
Millions upon millions of people type things far more provocative on social media to do with mass immigration every day, you don’t see them being arrested do you ? The reason why they social media arrest story has died down is because, they figured out rather than silencing people, its had the opposite effect and enraged us all, and given us evidence (albeit fictitious evidence) of the governments criminality and the nefarious aims of mass immigration, so its kind of backfired on them.
In the United King You can go to prison for not paying a TV licence
and whilst in prison you can watch TV without paying for an TV licence.
BTw Over 12,000 people per year are arrested for social media posts etc., more than double the pre-pandemic numbers.
is pure bullshit.
No one is being arrested.
They are being arrested and then cautioned which appears on an intensive background check thus permanently labelling you as a malcontent
Yes its just fear propaganda, TV licensing pretending to have authority to get peoples money, and in the case of social media posts trying to scare people into silence on the subject of mass immigration and the actions of Israel (not unrelated) its easy to make up a name and photoshop a photo, and you have no legal blowback. Although it doesn’t seem to be working it just enrages people even more
Lol you can only go to prison if you believe it so and go willingly for “breaking the law”. This is true of “council tax”, “energy bills” and “income tax”.
“Summons” is a scary word to most, to them it sounds like a demand you can’t refuse. If only they knew it means invite. Just decline the invitation, no problem.
In 2023, the U.K. recorded 12,183 arrests for “grossly offensive” communications, up 58% from 2019.
fact checked
Too bad you can’t handle the truth. UKdotguv seems to be targeting its native population for the sake of its imports.
Major reporting, Fawlty: Africa , I say, send them to Africa… or, maybe…
Estonia 🇪🇪 like the Swedish are doing, according the front page of the Guardian, today…
You can smell the Russkies there 😂 .. .
Subcontracting Prison Planet 🌏 for Prisoners of War Economics, to spread their load of Guilt & Ammunition with a USE before date of EXPIRY, Designed for Maximum CHAOS, before Financial Stormy Stalinka Georgieva’s next IMF ‘Decision’ on rules based order, prioritising payment,
Poised.
N.B. Super Max Prisons were constructed PRIOR to Permitting Performances of N.W.A. Niggas With Attitude… so , get The Message & Methodology in messaging millions of mindless mentalities , like in Manchester Airport , most recent::: It’s like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder ,
How I keep from going under…. huh huh huh huh huh huh.!..?
Well, I simply avoided any report…
coz’ of INCITEMENT. of false binaries.
Through Editing & Reconstructing narratives
Intentionally: meanwhile elsewhere …
I learnt summit’…
Greetings,
Balkydj
FYI, ‘Stalinka’ was Georgieva’s pet name, designated by her Father,
5 months after the Death of Stalin . . .
A certain irony, to remain objective… (Not subjective humour).
Studying longterm PLANNING !
It is the jury that determines the guilt or innocence, not the judge.
The judge applies the tariff of punishment as laid down in law.
The judge is supposed to be independant of the government yet is paid for from public funds at a rate determined by the state.
There would be a conflict of interest, to say the least, if the court became “jury-free”
“To act as judge and jury” is a pejorative term for a very good reason .
I wonder: Would it cost more to bribe a judge than an entire jury?
Then again, judges don’t reach that level in the legal fraternity without being a compliant tool of the system.
You only have to bribe a judge once a year and you get guaranteed results for every case they preside over. With multiple Jurys someones bound to refuse and report them.
You can threaten the lives of jurors pretty cheaply.
“Note the language, by the way. “Jury-free“, not “jury-less“ ”
True, no chance the regime being accused of being anti-jury. Or jury-deniers.
But the UK regime has a long history of just such barbaric ‘laws’. It used to be against others so was mostly ok then, lots of jobs being an enforcer then…times have changed sort of.
What the British upper crust really think of the plebs… as revealed by Dominic Cummings’ father-in-law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwxiiuIv_A
As for rights like jury trials, isn’t it peculiar that the great Shakespeare – the greatest ever Englishman and national bard, so we’re told – could write a whole play on ‘King John’ and never once mention Magna Carta?
Edward de Vere was probably too busy poking fun at the “Court” of Queen Elizebeth I
The cheap labor within the prison system helps make all that IKEA furniture and cheap clothes you all like to wear.
If I can help a criminal get clean again by buying a T-shirt for 3 GBP, I am willing to pay the charity price as the goody guy I am 😇 .
Most crime in England and Wales, it maybe different in Soctland and Northern Ireland, never sees the inside of a Crown Court ie trial by jury. 71% of crime is tried in the Magistrates Court with around an 85% conviction rate. Magistrates are lay-people – anyone can apply to be one so long as they do not have a criminal record – and can hand out custodial sentences upto six months in duration.
Magistrates tend to be middle class do-gooders, known for handing out derisory sentences even to persistent reoffenders. A good start would be to have more Magistrates who have an interest in reducing crime, through greater public participation, but since they are unpaid volunteers it attracts those with time on their hands who are generally economically better off. They don’t live in the areas nor suffer the consequences of persistent low level crime carried out by repeat offenders. Prevent criminals from reoffending so that they do not end up one day in the Crown Courts in front of a jury. Tougher sentences for repeat offenders at Magistrates Court may put some off or better rehabilitation programmes. That is a whole debate in itself.
Any crime that COULD carry a longer sentence is referred by the Magistrates to the Crown Court for trial by jury. The jury does not decide on sentencing, they decide simply but importantly, whether guilty or not gulity. The judge then decides the sentencing based on sentencing guidelines that have a wide range of tolerance, hence there are so many stories of sentencing anomalies especially leaning towards the soft side.
For better or worse, trial by jury seems the fairest route to deal with crime involving longer prison sentences. It is much harder to nobble 12 jurors than a panel of three judges or only one.
A major issue is that society has been so dumbed down such that people have the attention span of a TikTok video (under two minutes) potentially meaning that some jurors may not take their role seriously and be incapable or unwilling to listen to the evidence carefully. Couple that with a legal system that sometimes treats people differently due to socioeconomic status, and solicitors and barristers ever more motivated by money rather than ethics, then the whole legal system is open to corruption and abuse.
Below shows a range of offences and the sentencing guidelines for both Magistrates and Crown Court:
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/crown-court/
So we have another system “that just isn’t working”? When you have the power to modify all systems everywhere it’s very easy to manufacture meltdowns. And if you extend the definition of crime to include … well just about anything anyone writes on their social media accounts. You end up with an impending trial for every single person in the entire world!
And talking about phony break downs:
I keep hearing about Elon’s terrible error in permitting some AI to rewrite him as a raving Nazi. Error? I think not. Raving Nazi rhetoric is what Israel feeds off. The more they can recycle that old Hollywood Nazi epic the better!
Why do the British elite hate jury trials? Exhibit A:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Ponting
Really, there doesn’t have to be specific examples: anything they don’t control, they hate. This mania is strongest among Fabians so it shouldn’t be surprised it’s a Fabian government trying to do this.
Forgive my limited brain, but here is a fun site, that I saw linked right here on OffG, (so it’s not all bad), a month or two back.
World of Signs – YouTube
I like especially the circular rainbows,
Leave your mainstream at the door.
Wonder who the PR firm is that came up with calling
the final solution to clearing the valuable ME real estate,
‘humanitarian concentration camp’ ?
Impunity !
You have to act with Impunity !
Ignore what others might say…
The Most Moral Army In The Would acts with impunity
The Only Democracy In The ME acts with Impunity
Your Government acts with Impunity
(when’s the last time it listened to you ?)
Corporation’s ‘After Sales Services’ do it…
(When’s the last time they answered your call ?)
They’re all doing it…
Feel The Freedom Impunity gives you !!
Get With It !! Act with Impunity !!
Act with impunity but in accordance with Natural Law, IMO.
Not familiar with the UK scene, but here in the land of the free (comprising around 5% of the world’s general population with 25% of its prison population) trial by jury has been replaced in practice by plea bargaining overseen by the criminal justice system in as much as 95% of cases, if I’m recalling correctly, give or take some marginal percentage points, roughly drawn from the majority of the population who can’t afford the best defense that money can buy. Who needs the robed nobility of your honors when you’ve got police, or a police state, to serve as judge, jury, and executioner and protect the racket of the poverty to prison pipeline? That police have become so militarized as to conduct counterinsurgent SWAT raids around 80,000 times a year attests to the de facto martial law under which we live in the home of the brave.
And wouldn’t you know the privileged interests profiting off this oppression are crying poor, justice reduced to the bottom line in the law’s bureaucracy of population control, so their gangsterism can dispense with the middle men and women who oversee what little remains of the old corruption in the courts, and manage such sleight-of-hand schemes as manufactured problems like overcrowding (ka-ching), leading to early release reaction of increasingly digitized probation (ka-ching), and requiring expansion of the prison industrial complex as the final solution (ka-ching, over and over). Yes, it’s a great day in Amerikkka again, due process be damned, now that we’ve got Gator Gitmo to lead the way into concentration camps already waiting in the wings for (ab)use to full capacity with whatever enemy of the state du jour you happen to fall into. (No doubt, I’m already on AI’s precrime pipeline of usual suspects for saying this, misinformed about where free speech zones lie.)
Traditional trial by jury in the U$ was originally established, at least in theory, by revolutionary upheaval against monarchs presiding over people in judicial as well as executive and legislative proceedings of governance. Ideally, peers preside in assembly of, by, and for the people to ensure life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in a free society among self-governing equals. The principle of jury nullification in particular effectively made citizens supreme in practically applying and deciding the rule of law, not some court of justices carrying on patrician tradition.
But such reading of the 1791 Bill of Rights is late on the scene, little more than ratification, of the 1789 constitutional coup carried out by early capitalist elites (aka founding fathers) to ensure the supremacy of the pursuit of property under private power protected by a centralized state apparatus ruling nominal citizenry, not to mention slaves and ‘savages’ beyond the boundary of humanity, let alone citizenship. Rather than anything inalienable we’ve had to fight for, our rights are turned upside down as things provisional granted us by our guvners. Which means they can just as soon be taken away, as soon proved to be the case with the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts, the first of more to follow, overturning free speech if not the rest of our rights in train.
Under social relations of economic inequality, political rights are liable to be of less worth than the parchment they’re written on. In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor sleeping under bridges or begging for their bread, as Anatole France observed. How likely is it that the rule of law will amount to anything that different than the same old rule of men in a capitalist class system as under ancient and feudal ‘civilization’?
And it’s still mostly men calling the shots, leaving war on women (including trans misogyny to merge us with asexual cyborgs) and children (normalizing pedophilia for male predation) a constant of exploitative and oppressive social relations. Powers that (shouldn’t) be capitalize on real as well as manufactured fears to wage lawfare by criminalizing behaviors of all sorts, no matter how seemingly insignificant for their power plays. And with an estimated daily average of 3-4 laws broken unknowingly by each of us, who knows when our number might be up for grabs?
But with sex crimes and so many others, perhaps the problems are compounded by solutions serving an abusive social system because we’re imprisoned in human relations of power over others which keep us focused on crime in the streets to the neglect of crime in the suites. Doesn’t justice demand revolution to overturn the organized crime against humanity institutionalized in rule of law? Until then, won’t we stay stuck in problem-reaction-solution schemes which reiterate Peruvian President Oscar Benavides’ rule, “for my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law?”
The $uiturd$ can’t have it both ways.
They tell us we are the best educated and most informed generations in history but we can’t be trusted as jurors.
Hang on _ _ _ _ they can and DO have it both ways.
Please ignore my naivety.
They ARE our betters. That was confirmed during the $camdemic.
Ruler based order: if you don’t follow my order, I will beat you with my steel ruler.
Is there any evidence of competent judgement by Jury? Or the contrary.
Documentation please gentlemen.
If we try to not to see it always from a negative side, we could say that professional Judges sees too many emotional judgements from a peasant Jury who feel completely competent to judge everybody high and low, Generals, Kings, Homeless.
“I liked him and her but not the other”.
We have documentation of sleeping judges in the middle of the seance, etc, etc, but its difficult to get facts out to a conclusion here.
What the fuck are you, the arbiter ?
Careful not to cause to much offence with these topics, got to play the long game, OffG
Fooling most here still.
See the little picture.
Everyday the same.
Dirty.
All right.
Erik master mason
says he
all right
Let me explain then. Once I saw an chronicle in a daily newspaper by a judge to the public.
He wrote that ordinary people should be careful not demanding people 10 years in prison for parking wrong and for stealing 1 banana in the supermarket.
Why not? Because as he wrote, even small prison sentences are due to make people having a break down.
It is such a dramatic shift in people’s lives that they never overcome it again.
This chronicle made a big impression on me, so I began think in another way. That inside the system they see reality different than we do.
It is a heavy responsibility to judge other people to prison or choose the best and most fair penalty for everybody.
On the other hand I can see a lot of good culture in a Jury, as ordinary gets a first hand impression of the conditions in a Justice and Court System.
Its just a pity that the case in question, the tattooed guy from an Venezuelan human traffic mafia, is in the media as example for this discussion. That was my point….and all.
Yes always leave it to The Experts. Who are we to judge?
Yes I can vouch for the drunk, sleeping judge version. We took it to the Appeal Court, 3 Law Lords fronted by Lord Denning, who said I was right to bring the case, but that they could do nothing, because ‘the judge’s notes (clerk of the court) had MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARED.’
Unfortunately I have heard many similar stories of incompetent judges.
The latest I read somewhere was, that China had presented AI decisions to judges and asked the judges to do it better: If they couldnt they would be kicked out.
But the question was a Jury. Would it be more fair with a Jury? Maybe they would keep each other in check or just more confusion or mistake?
Juries, at least city juries, are much much better at socking it to insurance companies and other corporate felons with big punitive damages. That’s probably the second most important reason, after jury nullification, why they’re trying to get rid of them.
In France, a cour d’assises, or Court of Assizes or Assize Court, is a criminal trial court with original and appellate limited jurisdiction to hear cases involving defendants accused of felonies, meaning crimes as defined in French law. It is the only French court that uses a jury trial.
France is not England. France follows Napoleonic standards. Which means trial by judges. Most French verdicts are decided by judges. I don’t know, but from what I hear, statistically, verdict results turn out relatively the same as jury verdicts.
On the other hand, Assize Court juries have practiced jury nullification of occasion.
Jury nullification is what the powers that be have against juries.
Flippant point – why decry the end of juries? 12 men good & true… Really? When the average punter learns to clean their own backside, I’ll learn to trust the jury system.
Non- flippant point – us Proles were always loathed. But until recently, we were tolerated. Well, the age of tolerance – it’s now gone.
Seems more like an injustice system.
It always has been, or do you see many of the upper classes in prison?
A just us system, really…
In Scotland the renowned blogger Craig Murray was given an eight month prison sentence for Jigsaw indentification, even though there’s was no real evidence to convict him, the bought and paid for judge (no jury) wouldn’t allow him to submit much of his defence case – Craig Murray, is the only person ever to be convicted and sentenced for jigsaw indentification.
Craig Murray was reporting on the fitting up of the late Alex Salmond, and several MSM journalists DID name the complainants, some of the complainants should’ve been charged with perjury – on wasn’t even in the same building with Alex Salmond when the complaint was supposed to have taken place – Salmond who did have a jury – was judged by a jury of his peers and cleared of all charges, the complainants were given life long anonymity.
As for jury trials being dropped, it was Lady Dorrian and the then First Minster of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon who proposed them, to get sexual assault convictions up, it was moving towards getting the conviction figures up, at the expense of evidence based convictions.
On the conviction of Craig Murray – at the time of his sentencing the Solicitor General in Scotland approached the the judge, just before the judge sentenced Murray – quiet words were spoken in the judges ear (unknown) – that Solicitor General was David Harvie, (now moved on) a known Mi5 agent – which sums up the present Scotland to a tee, the Crown Office Prosecution Service (COPFS), the judiciary and much of Scotland’s MPs and MSPs are on the British payroll.
What is the matter with Scotland. Is it some kind of testing ground for the more radical “solutions”?
Its a British way of controlling the colonies. Imbeciles are put into power to keep the population busy with quarrels and incompetent leaders. Getting nowhere.
Probably. Ironically, the fact that us rugged Scots tend to be more Left than others helped enormously when the whole system spun onto its Left foot with covid. Hence also other nations with a “proud Leftie” self image e.g. Australia, Canada. We’re the sad dupes for testing testing.
Scotland is England’s original colony – it has been for centuries, it has been infiltrated to a deep degree, and over the centuries it has co-opted many Scots to do their bidding in Scotland, whilst asset stripping and using its people to fight Westminster’s wars.
What a lot of shite. You are obviously not Scots, or educated in Scotland (if educated at all). That’s the sort of low-brow cartoon characterization of history that I would normally expect from some 3rd world malcontent.
Scotland unfortunately has a heavy socialist (authoritarian) leaning so thats the reason why they use it as a testing ground, because they think government overreach will be more tolerated. Scotts are starting to reject their traditional support for Labour (because they realise Labour are just like the rest, if not worse) so I don’t think it will last much longer.
James Comey’s ‘daughter’ ?
Questions of ‘honour’,
Failing the Integrity.
“Their soul gives them, instead of free worship of the Eternal,
servile bowing before a God whose character is molded from
an exaggeration of their own human disposition.” (Sigilla Veri)
It should also be noted that Philipp
Stauff did not take his own life out
of weariness, but as a result of years
of agonizing and incurable war wounds.
This is of course omitted in the Bolshe-
wikipedia, just like his war service itself.
The boundless (and suspiciously ridiculous)
Wehraboo mania of the weird islanders is
difficult to understand. There seems to be
a kind of perverse suppression of guilt going
on here: “We Brits are the proudest people
in the world! We have rainbow-colored poli-
ce cars and Muslim mayors! We defeated the
strongest army in the world by surreptitiously
and cowardly bombing their cities, women and
children to the ground in the night with inextin-
guishable phosphorus! Our ugly racist empire
was just as lost by that. A Question of honor!”
Crooked arseholes gave us jury trials to say it was democratic only to pull out because they need to save money for their wars and corporate welfare.
Frak these sociopaths and frak legalese bullshit which only helps the upper classes and other morons.
True law is justice. When justice is removed or destroyed there is no law. When true law has been removed there are then only arbitrary rules based on the ideology of rulers. Law is written upon our hearts.
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechtheverdict.html
It is. Justice come from above.