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Who Would Jesus Bomb? The Gospel According to the Military-Industrial Complex

John & Nisha Whitehead

“Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.”
Thomas Jefferson>/a>

For a man supposedly intent on winning a Nobel Peace Prize, Donald Trump spends an extraordinary amount of time waging war, threatening to wage war, and fantasizing about waging war.

Notwithstanding his dubious claims about having ended “seven un-endable wars,” Trump has continued to squander the American people’s resources and moral standing by feeding the military-industrial complex’s insatiable appetite for war—preemptively bombing nuclear facilities in Iran, blowing up fishing boats in the Caribbean, and flexing military muscle at every opportunity.

Even the Trump administration’s version of “peace through strength” is filtered through a prism of violence, intimidation and strongman tactics.

It is the gospel of power, not peace—a perversion of both Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount and the U.S. Constitution.

Thus we find ourselves at this peculiar crossroads: a president hailed by his followers as an “imperfect vessel” chosen by God to save the church and restore Christianity—while they turn a blind eye to his record of adultery, deceit, greed, cruelty, and an almost religious devotion to vengeance and violence.

If anything captures Trump’s worldview, it is the AI-generated video he shared on social media: a grotesque fantasy of himself wearing a golden crown, flying a military fighter jet, and bombing a crowd of protesters with brown liquid feces.

This is the man who claims to be “saving God”?

Dismissed by his devoted base as harmless humor—a cheeky response to the millions nationwide who took part in the “No Kings” protests on Oct. 18—Trump’s crude fantasy of assaulting critics with fecal bombs nevertheless begs the question: Who would Jesus bomb?

That question, of course, is meant less literally than morally.

To answer it, we must first understand who Jesus Christ was—the revered preacher, teacher, radical, prophet and son of God—born into a police state not unlike the growing menace of America’s own police state.

When he came of age, Jesus had powerful, profound things to say, about justice, power and how we are to relate to one another. Blessed are the merciful,” “Blessed are the peacemakers,” “Love your enemies.

A revolutionary in both spirit and action, Jesus not only died challenging the police state of his day—the Roman Empire—but left behind a blueprint for resisting tyranny that has guided countless reformers and freedom fighters ever since.

Far from the sanitized, domesticated figure presented in modern churches, Jesus was a radical nonconformist who challenged authority at every turn. He spoke truth to power, defied political and religious hierarchies, and exposed the hypocrisy of empire.

Jesus rejected politics as a means to salvation. For Him, faith was not about seizing power but serving others—helping the poor, showing mercy even to enemies, and embodying peace, not war. He did not seek political favor or influence; He actively undermined it.

That is not to say He was passive. Jesus knew righteous anger. He turned over the tables of the money changers in the Temple because they had turned faith into profit and worship into spectacle.

Yet even in anger, He refused to wield violence as a tool of redemption. When His own arrest approached, He rebuked His followers: Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.

The Beatitudes summarize His message: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.” And when asked to name the greatest commandment, He answered simply: to love God with all one’s being and to love one’s neighbor as oneself.

In other words, we love God by loving our fellow human beings.

Jesus—the “Prince of Peace”—came not to destroy life but to restore it.

Which brings us to Donald Trump, the latest political “savior” anointed by Christian nationalists for whom the pursuit of a Christian theocracy now appears to outweigh allegiance to our constitutional democracy.

Seduced by political power to such an extent that the true message of Jesus has been taken hostage by partisan agendas, much of today’s evangelical movement has become indistinguishable from right-wing politics—defined by anti-immigrant and anti-homosexual rhetoric, material excess, sprawling megachurches, and a spirit of judgment rather than mercy.

Meanwhile, the wall of separation—between church and state, between moral authority and political coercion—is being torn down from both sides.

The result is a marriage of convenience that corrupts them both.

This is what happens when you wrap your faith in the national flag.

What is worse—far worse—than the Christian right selling its spiritual birthright for a political seat at Trump’s table is the blasphemy that has followed: the Gospel of Jesus replaced by the Gospel of the Military-Industrial Complex.

Within the White House, faith leaders gather to lay hands on Trump as he sits at the Resolute Desk, praising him for defending “religious freedom” for Christians—seemingly unconcerned that from that same desk he has signed death warrants for nearly every other freedom.

In the Pentagon, Trump’s Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, presides over prayer services where the name of Christ is invoked almost in the same breath as he boasts of preemptive strikesrighteous killings, and “peace through strength.”

Kristi Noem, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, prays in front of the cameras all the while boosting spending on military weapons for ICE by 700%, with significant purchases of chemical weapons and “guided missile warheads and explosive components.”

This is not Jesus’ Christianity—it is Christian nationalism: Christianity draped in the flag and wielding the weapons of war.

When leaders presume to act in God’s name, every drone strike becomes a crusade, every critic a heretic, every raid a holy war.

This is how war becomes a form of worship in the American empire.

What was once the Gospel of Peace has been replaced by a national creed that equates killing with courage, dominance with divine favor, and obedience with faith.

It is a blasphemous marriage of church and state—one that desecrates both Christ’s command to love one’s enemies and the Constitution’s mandate to keep religion free from the corruption of power.

Under Trump’s rule, this weaponized faith has found expression not only in rhetoric but in action.

It is there in the bombing of Venezuelan fishing boats—no declaration of war, no congressional authorization, no due process—men in small vessels labeled “enemy combatants” by fiat. It is there in the militarized ICE raids that tear families apart under cover of darkness. It is there in the persecution of journalists and dissidents accused of being anti-American. It is there in every detail of how, as one state senator warned, “the President is building an army to attack his own country.

Each act is justified as righteous violence, sanctioned by a president who sees himself as both protector of the faithful and punisher of the wicked.

Yet beneath the veneer of divine mission lies the same old tyranny the Framers warned against: a ruler who mistakes executive power for divine right and turns the machinery of government into an instrument of holy war.

Both Jesus and the framers of the Constitution understood the same truth: faith and freedom cannot be imposed by force.

That is why the First Amendment forbids the government from establishing religion. The moment religion aligns itself with political power, it ceases to be faith and becomes ideology. The moment a president claims divine sanction for war, the republic ceases to be a democracy and becomes a theocracy of fear.

Driven by those concerns, the framers built a system designed to restrain ambition, limit vengeance, and guard against tyranny.

That constitutional system is being bulldozed before our eyes—just as surely as Trump is bulldozing his way through the White House, leaving wreckage in his wake.

And so we return to the question that started it all: Who would Jesus bomb?

The answer, of course, is no one.

Jesus would not rain destruction from the skies or bless the machinery of death. He would not mistake vengeance for virtue or domination for deliverance.

Jesus would heal the sick, welcome the stranger, and lift up the poor. He would drive the money changers from the temple, not sanctify the merchants of war.

Yet here we are.

Under Trump’s broadened definitions of “rebellion” and “domestic terrorism,” Jesus would be labeled a subversive, his name placed on a watchlist, his followers rounded up for “reeducation.” He preached compassion for enemies, defied authority, and stirred the crowds without a permit.

Were Jesus——a Palestinian refugee, a radical, and a revolutionary—to show his face in Trump’s American police state, he would fare no better than any of the undocumented immigrants being snatched up in the dead of night, stripped of any real due process, made to disappear into inhumane detention centers, and left to be tortured or die.

This is what happens when nations lose their moral compass: due process becomes a slogan, justice a privilege, and compassion a crime.

When even mercy is outlawed and truth branded subversion, the darkness is no longer metaphorical—it is moral.

It is midnight in America, a phrase evocative of Martin Luther King Jr.’s warning of a “midnight in the moral order.”

This is the time, King cautioned, when absolute standards pass away, replaced by a “dangerous ethical relativism.” Morality becomes a mere “Gallup poll of the majority opinion.” Right and wrong are reduced to the philosophy of “getting by,” and the highest law becomes the “eleventh commandment: thou shall not get caught.”

In this deep darkness, King said, there is a “knock of the world on the door of the church.”

That knock is a reminder, he warned, that the church “is not the master or the servant of the state, but rather the conscience of the state. It must be the guide and the critic of the state, and never its tool. If the church does not recapture its prophetic zeal, it will become an irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority.”

That knock still sounds today—steady, insistent, and largely unanswered.

It reverberates through religious institutions that mistake nationalism for faith and pulpits that confuse politics with piety. It calls us to rediscover the moral courage that resists tyranny rather than blesses it—to be, once more, the conscience of the state before the darkness becomes complete.

Whether we heed that call will determine what kind of nation we remain.

The time for silence has passed; the hour demands conscience.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, “we the people” must step up, speak up and speak out.

The tragedy of our age is not merely that presidents claim godlike power or that the citizenry themselves go along with it—it is that people of faith who should know better consent to it.

When Christians cheer the strongman who wraps himself in Scripture while shredding the Constitution—when they bow to the idol of safety, mistaking fear for faith—and when religious institutions fail to speak truth to power—we lose more than our freedoms.

We lose our moral and spiritual birthright.

Originally published via The Rutherford Institute

Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]. Nisha Whitehead is the Executive Director of The Rutherford Institute. Information about The Rutherford Institute is available at www.rutherford.org.

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SuperbuggG
SuperbuggG
Nov 3, 2025 5:58 AM

‘Jesus’ was invented by the Romans, most tidbits attributed to the Jesus construct are grifted straight from Dionysus!

Ipso facto, ‘Jesus’ could bomb no one…

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:04 PM

I “love” Trump because he rubs in our face exactly what kind of people have been lording it over us for far too long.

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:08 PM

Also, the Magic Jew Godman story is for slaves.”Jesus” would not have bombed anyone, anytime, because he only ever existed in the spiritually lobotomised mind of slaves.

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:08 PM

Also, the Magic J Godman story is for slaves.”Jesus” would not have bombed anyone, anytime, because he only ever existed in the spiritually lobotomised mind of slaves.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 31, 2025 9:20 PM

There is 100% firm and solid proof of “Jesus Christ”‘s physical existence from year 0-30 AD.
Do you want me to list the documented proofs up here because you are too lazy, or will you do yourself a favour and put it into a search machine and use 5 minutes?

Human values
Human values
Nov 1, 2025 8:50 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

There is no evidence of a physical man Jesus ever. That’s because such a man never existed. Jesus, however, is existing in Spirit.

Pure spirit is immaterial.

The idea of a historical Jesus was invented by the Roman church, which is not the real Church in Heaven, but it’s a mundane idea of belief in matter, material things, things that are created.

What is created can’t be the Creator.

Worship of man is ungodly, unbiblical and simply wrong.

There is and never can be Mr Truth, Mr God, or Mr AllGood.

Truth is immaterial.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 9:55 AM
Reply to  Human values

There is no evidence of a physical man Jesus ever.

…[]…

Truth is immaterial

Where’s Mr Messenger when you need him.

When the cats away, the Christians will play.

A semi benevolent tinker creator would’ve just finished it at the flood and admitted the experiment hadn’t worked out.

This place is beyond belief.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 1, 2025 3:07 PM
Reply to  Human values

As Erik astutely pointed out, don’t be lazy. Do the basic research.

Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, Thallus, or Pliny the Younger… to name a few contemporaries… (not to mention Trajan or Hadrian later) would beg to differ with your immaterial universe.

Otherwise you’ll end up like one of those ‘virology’ deniers, eternally demanding proof like a beggar on the sidewalk.

Human values
Human values
Nov 1, 2025 10:26 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

None of them were contemporaries to the alleged man.

There is no evidence of a historical man named Jesus. No evidence whatsoever of flood either. No evidence of any man in the Bible having existed in history. That’s because the Bible is not a history book.

Even if there had been a man who was tortured and murdered, there is absolutely no reason to believe in him, to worship him, to think he’s God, or follow him.

The historical man Jesus has been brainwashed into people’s minds so efficiently that even atheists believe he must have existed.

Where’s the historical evidence of anything in that story? The sun stopping, the man walking on water, raising dead people, multiplying loafs of bread and fish, being dead for three days and coming back to life, and so on.

No such evidence exists.

Christian religion was invented and established by Roman emperors. That is a fact.

Historically, that religion changed God into a man, which is clearly against the truth of God and against what the Bible says. Then they changed God into three persons, which is again against the Bible. God is not a person. Person means mask.

The material universe is not the same as the Spirit of God.

Where’s the logic?

Mixing different things together and twisting words is not the good behavior of a reasonable human.

Why don’t you do some easy research to find out when your alleged contemporaries lived, what they actually had to say about the alleged miracle-man, and whether such people and their stories can be considered as facts or as hearsay.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 8:19 PM

I’m guessing this is where the concept was popularised for low-IQ masses. Poor vocals despite good lyrics:

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 31, 2025 9:36 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Its the most incredible constructs they have made to smear and downsize both God but also Messiah………. 😅 .

The Trinity is about God as 3 different entities who are the same.
Shape shifting himself into a humble Christ in Galilee, making himself tortured and crucified, eating by birds and bones thrown away to history’s dustbin……….BECAUSE he loved SO much humans?????

Our Charles here had a single miss, a two-headed God who speak in plural to and about himself and his two father and son heads?????

Allah who need to see the brown spot behind 3x a day of his followers?????

Blue Kali red long lingua with the many arms?????

But anyway, it only confirms the Scripture’s predictions and descriptions the whole way through to the Revelations.

Human values
Human values
Nov 1, 2025 8:56 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Three different entities can’t be the same. The law of Logic says this. The law of identity is simple, without which you can’t even think straight. Things are what they are. A is A.

When you break the law of Logic, you create unreasonable, incomprehensible doctrines, like the trinitarian doctrine.

The trinitarian doctrine was invented in 325 by the Roman emperor Constantine, who elevated himself as the 13th apostle and introduced his mundane dictatorship as religion.

This unholy religion made by men has been blaspheming God for 1700 years.

Truth can’t be divided since Truth is One.

As you don’t understand religions, you speak nonsense.

Kali is not God, the Supreme Being Above All, in Hinduism. Brahman is.

Allah is just Arabic for God.

Buddha as a man never existed either, and whenever scriptures were made doesn’t mean that’s when God was made. God was never created. God is Eternal.

God is One, as truth is one.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 1, 2025 5:34 PM
Reply to  Human values

Nothing illogical at all. A human has a spirit and a word/tongue, as does God. Maybe go figure, if that too broadens the concept for basic consumption…

Human values
Human values
Nov 1, 2025 10:34 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

God doesn’t have a spirit, God is Spirit.

God doesn’t have a tongue, arms, body, as God is not physical.

Human beings have a body, but the body is not who we are.

eccentric
eccentric
Oct 29, 2025 9:24 PM
Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:49 AM
Reply to  eccentric

Classic!!

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:10 PM
Reply to  eccentric

I will wait for the “turn the other cheek ” version

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 29, 2025 4:01 AM

Headline: America Moves Close to War w Russia.
No, no, it should read “the American & Russian people are about to be conned into killing each other by Billionaire beneficiaries”

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 5:08 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Like last time

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 29, 2025 8:38 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Since time immemorial.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 1:31 AM

I firmly think we are all in the same boat, including people who shit on one another

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 2:56 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

So you took what I said: Dress in white and escape on a refugee boat to England.
“If you cant beat them, join them”.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 4:29 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

No Erik I said exactly what I said, no more no less…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 3:42 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

8 billion people cant sit in one little boat shitting on each other. I am all in for symbolics, but this one is too far out.
My way is saving more people. https://youtu.be/EAkURACbtqI .

Hail
Hail
Oct 29, 2025 4:26 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Oh look, it’s the “man-made” fairytale character known as “Bejeezus Crust”. Forcing your fairytale characters & places on people that’s what’s wrong with the world. Because of your “cult”. ironic, brainwashed, lunatic, greedy, evil christian zealots.

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brianborou
brianborou
Oct 29, 2025 5:44 PM
Reply to  Hail

When a society turns away from God !

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Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 9:14 PM
Reply to  Hail

Pess off nutcase.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 29, 2025 9:53 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Giving the nutcases a bad name !

Hail
Hail
Oct 29, 2025 10:25 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

nutcase?

ed is commenting to ed  😂 

Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 30, 2025 9:23 AM
Reply to  Hail

Oh dear, you don’t like that term, Bambot, Buffon, bloody eejit much more appropriate 🍼

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 30, 2025 6:07 PM
Reply to  Hail

 😂 

The real evil a-holes will, undoubtedly, be out in force below.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 30, 2025 9:15 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Two nuts in the same pod.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 31, 2025 9:47 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

I see them as Beavis and Butthead. Sometimes amusing, but Hail is just too lousy.comment image .

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:11 PM
Reply to  Hail

Victimhood and scapegoating is always trending thanks to the chosen ones guiding us with righteousness!

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 29, 2025 8:39 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Except those who do the proverbial don’t know it yet.

John Manning
John Manning
Oct 28, 2025 7:53 PM

“What was once the Gospel of Peace has been replaced by a national creed that equates killing with courage, dominance with divine favor, and obedience with faith.”
= Judaism, = the modern Christian.

Remember to read the New Testament.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 8:00 PM
Reply to  John Manning

Indeed. Especially Romans 11

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 28, 2025 11:49 PM
Reply to  John Manning

Indeed, and have TRUMP in your mind as the bad bad guy while you read it!  😖  .

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 11:53 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Therein lieth the rub

Hail
Hail
Oct 29, 2025 4:27 PM
Reply to  John Manning

Remember the New Testament is what started all this crap!


Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 30, 2025 9:24 AM
Reply to  Hail

Do expand on your statement!

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:54 AM
Reply to  John Manning

“Remember to read the New Testament”

Why.

Does it interestingly conflict with the old testament or something.

Maybe the bit were Jesus is telling the little children to come unto him while daddy big bucks is organising the angel to kill all the Egyptian first born a bit earlier or something.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 31, 2025 9:59 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Not really. But the old Testament were prevailing in the ancient days where Messiah were promised to come.
The new Testament is overruling the old Testament, and prevailing in the new days after Messiah did arrive in year 0 AD as promised in the old Testament.

So you cannot say ‘conflict with each other’. You can say number 2 follows rationally after number 1.
Therefore it may be more important to read the New Testament as recommended than the old if you are in a hurry.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 7:42 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Therefore it may be more important to read the New Testament as recommended than the old if you are in a hurry.

You declare devotion to IT. Why have you not read both:

https://off-guardian.org/2025/10/19/the-masks-have-come-off/#comment-738928

Lu1

Oct 24, 2025 4:19 PM

Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Do you mean that those who wer dead fetus’ get out of Hell for one day and then sent back.

https://off-guardian.org/2025/10/19/the-masks-have-come-off/#comment-739074

Reply to  Lu1

Lu1.

I and we have not all the details …[]… you read the Epistles you will find answer on your many questions!

Or maybe you have read the relevant Epistles and were just flustered by the question – pesky fukken details, eh.

So,

now that there is an off-g article on your favourite topic perhaps you could refocus on the question in order to identify the true charcter of your hero?

Here’s the question again, it’s purpose is to see you burning those Bibles more quickly than you otherwise might.

The question is copied entirely from here:

https://off-guardian.org/2025/10/25/pick-and-choose-your-own-truth/#comment-739854

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Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 12:04 AM

Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Actually I dont know. I would be happy if anyone could tell me who and how many was of the serpent seed.

…[]…

and I know my origin is from God’s breath.

Apparently it doesn’t matter, the whole kit and caboodle are, allegedly, miraculously tarred with the “sin” bug:

Psalm 51:5

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

In any case, let’s say, for fun, 1% of the mixture are, like you, “from God’s breath”.

Assuming they are lucky enough to survive the earthquake, does your favourite deity send the dead 2 year olds from “God’s breath” to hell for eternity after they had tried to hit daddy for not giving them some more ice-cream and then being run over by a lorry.

Exodus 20:12

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

PS:
remember that the (magically) sinful two year-old cannot yet understand/believe abstract religious concepts so wont have asked Jesus to save it.

Hint:

Revelation 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving …[]…shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Not to mention the final, alleged, destination of the severely mentally handicapped.

End Quote

Let’s get you through that depression stage ASAP.

Don’t worry about Messenger Charles, that one is beyond saving – doesn’t even know that Jesus is a separate entity from Yah (or YHWH or whatever TF IT’s called now).

Human values
Human values
Nov 1, 2025 9:15 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

God hasn’t changed and never will.

Your worship of scriptures in the new testament is just ungodly, unbiblical nonsense.

If you think Messiah arrived in year 0, that messiah did nothing. True Messiah is the liberator of all souls.

No-one really needs to read any scriptures, as God reveals the truth and Saves every pure spirit, the Soul.

Spirit is the Creator, creations are created.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 9:57 AM
Reply to  Human values

Your worship of scriptures in the new testament is just ungodly, unbiblical nonsense.

Fair point, Erik really is a top drawer a-hole.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Oct 28, 2025 6:37 PM

Jesus would bomb Israel.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 8:01 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

In a sense He did with His 70AD prophecy

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 5:59 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

“In a sense He did with His 70AD prophecy”

Who’d have imagined an, alleged, omniscient thing could do such a thing.

Miraculous.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 31, 2025 6:07 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Who’d have imagined an, alleged, omniscient thing could do such a thing.

Miraculous.

Very true. The 70AD prophecy even detailed the destruction of the temple (which happened).

Sounds like a conversion

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 8:37 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Sounds like a conversion

From large pieces of limestone to smaller.

The more important point is that (assuming) IT knew, for example, that IT’s not so Great flood wasnt going to sort the problem out which would, IT knew, result in, alleged, ongoing, untold affront to ITSELF (via sin) and the pre-determined end of the whole shooting match down the line whereby the broad roaders get their come uppence and even the magically “sinful” fetus’ / 1 day old sucklings and the 2 year old’s who die in a car accident after screaming at daddy for taking an ice cream away from it.

A seemingly insane framework, unless, of course, an entity enjoys self-abuse (that IT didn’t need to have occur, including, allegedly, tormenting ITself to enable “atonment” for a few) and the apportionment of eternal abuse to most of ITs creation.

If IT “knew” then determinism is intrinsic to our condition no matter the bleatings of the “free will” brigade.

If IT doesn’t “know” then determinism is not intrinsic to our condition and IT is a liar.

In one case IT is a megalomaniacal, malevolent a-hole and, if you count yourself as one of those “elected” by:

Ephesians 1:4-6

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world

you have, simply, been a lucky tosser with only the hint of a moral compass.

In the other case, IT is a limp dick liar, in which case, for most, there’s an unknown outcome. Simply the law of the jungle for us all, including the 95% of humanity who still, somehow, ended up with only the hint of a moral compass, rs holes.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 1, 2025 9:49 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Ok, so you’re getting into predestination vs free-will.

God knows the future but we don’t. That’s the way I see it. We may get glimpses from these prophetic types but generally the future is murky. We can’t even predict the weather with 100% certainty in 2 days time.

So humans act as if they have free will but it’s entirely possible that what they ‘choose’ to do was always predetermined. Someone can choose to kill or not to kill. Seems like a free will decision at the time, but maybe it never was.

And even if everything is predetermined then humans don’t always keep that in mind. They forget and act as if they had free will.

So yes, I agree. God would have known that humans would still sin after the Flood. So why did He bother?

I guess the potter has the right to do whatever He wants with His ‘clay’. As the inventor of a video game has the right to make the characters do whatever He chooses. Other philosophers or theologians will have different views on it.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 10:08 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

I guess the potter has the right to do whatever He wants with His ‘clay’.

Simplistic b/s – the eternal (planned) torment of (most of) IT’s creation would be absolute evidence of malevolence.

Only a philosopher or theologian with a mis-directed moral compass would say otherwise (this is where you belong but, even then, don’t count on resurrection to eternal bliss as a megalomaniacal malevolent IT could have something else up ITs sleeve for you).

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 1, 2025 10:57 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Anyway, atheists still hold all the top prizes for mass extermination in human history.

Stalin in the #1 slot with 20 million killed in his Great Purges (far more that were ever alive during the Great Flood) and a further 20 million casually sent as cannon fodder in WWII. 

Hitler destroyed many a foetus and 1-day suckling in the concentration camps, not to mention the inhuman experiments his ‘scientists’ carried out on living humans in the name of ‘evolutionary’ progress. So atheism hardly leads to be better world. Did you somehow forget to cry foul on such deeds?

If you don’t like a God who wipes out wicked (rather than simply grabbing the farmland from the ‘kulaks’) then point to your great alternative. What great hope do you offer humanity? If none, then you also have no moral claim to condemn any of the actions of nefarious ‘elites’.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 11:39 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Anyway, atheists still hold all the top prizes for mass extermination in human history.

Not a jot on God if IT planned the extermination of all of humanity before a single one was ever created.

If you don’t like a God who wipes out wicked (rather than simply grabbing the farmland from the ‘kulaks’) then point to your great alternative.

If God is fiction, it seems the megalomaniacal, malevolent Global mafia will wipe out the wicked (95% of humanity) via AI, Automation and implementation of a social credit score of zero (the, nearly, 5% of humanity who do have a correctly oriented moral compass will be wiped out in the same operation).

If none, then you also have no moral claim to condemn any of the actions of nefarious ‘elites’.

Why – the megalomaniacal malevolent 0.00001% would be doing the same type of job which God , allegedly, has pre-planned.

then point to your great alternative.

As it stands, there is none. It will be impossible for the 5% of humanity with a correctly oriented moral compass to defeat the 95% of gullible, guilty, self-centred, stupid a-holes in combination with the 0.0001% of non-gullible, even-more-guilty, self-centred, non-stupid “elite” a-holes.

This is not ideal but would have been better than the current shit-show:

https://off-guardian.org/2025/10/27/who-would-jesus-bomb-the-gospel-according-to-the-military-industrial-complex/#comment-740045

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 1, 2025 2:56 PM
Reply to  Lu1

AI makes a poor substitute for a god, but is a potential threat to humanity.

Though I believe that threat is generally recognized and mitigated to some extent. The Silicon Valley elites (at least according to such authors as Parmy Olson) actively train AI to be more ‘benevolent’. Much like Asimov’s 3 laws of robotics in his Robot series of tales. Which isn’t to say someone couldn’t deliberately design a more malevolent version.

‘Generative AI’ however does still appear to be a threat. Not so much out of its desire to destroy humans nor to do them any great harm but simply because it does things better than most. It can already program, create art, write poetry, read books better than the average white-collar worker. Which in itself, does threaten the 95% (or even 99.99%) of humanity with basic irrelevance. Handy in any justification for future AI extermination camps.

So the threat of AI seems more the threat of something that’s simply inherently 100x superior rather than that of an entity that actively goes out of its way to destroy humans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_(book)

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 8:10 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

The Silicon Valley elites (at least according to such authors as Parmy Olson) actively train AI to be more ‘benevolent’.

At the point the megalomaniac elite can gain more wealth / power from AI/Automation than from the maintenance of the balance of humanity (as it biologically currently exists) then this, so called, benevolence will end.

The killing by Stalin’s “Atheist” footsoldiers and Hitler’s “Christian” footsoldiers (the Wehrmacht reflected demographics of Germany in 1939 was 54% Protestant and 40% Catholic) will be another jot compared to the Social Credit zero reset score starvation.

AI makes a poor substitute for a god, but is a potential threat to humanity.

A god or an AI/Automation (teamed with its controlller) have much the same capacity to kill billions of gullible, guilty, self-centred, stupid a-holes.

In reality, they may be one and the same thing.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Nov 2, 2025 9:23 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

What if the “potter” is the inventor of a video game? A non-creative force that can only copy.

Have we the characters have been pre-programmed and is this reality an illusion? A simulation some would call it. Is the true creative force outside of the illusion and the “potter” is the architect of this copy and has trapped us here?

There is something deeply flawed about this reality and arguably with the humans that inhabit the 3D element of it – the Earth plane. If these human avatars are true spiritual beings, many do not appear good-hearted or beings of ‘light’ (to use that often used term). Have these spiritual beings in human form been manipulated? Are some human avatars NPC spiritless /souless entities placed within the reality in order to act out storylines and provide background filler for the true spiritual beings in human form to do their thing?

There are always more questions than answers.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 2, 2025 9:58 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Good questions, but as you say difficult to answer. I suppose getting one’s head around the whole predestination vs free will question is key.

The God of the Bible is portrayed as a God who does create in the absolute sense. Rather than simply rearranging pre-existing matter. “He made the stars also” (Genesis 1), for example.

Whereas yes, a video game creator is not really creating in the same absolute sense of creating a whole solar system or universe ‘ex nihilo‘. More using pre-existing matter in imaginative/illusory ways.

Joseph’s brothers threw him into a pit, but God had already foreseen that it would end up with Joseph in Egypt supplying grain to his family. So could the brothers have acted in any other way?

The bad guy Egyptian Pharaoh (with whom Moses contended) was raised up, a verse says somewhere, so that “God could show His power through him”. And also that God “hardened his heart”, so in what sense did the Pharaoh have any free will?

Jesus fulfilled all the Old Testament prophecies as He was predestined to do. And yet it seems that He could have chosen otherwise if he’d wished. He actively chose “not my will, but your will be done”

So in some mysterious way both predestination AND free will seems to be simultaneously true, though I’ll admit it’s beyond me exactly how. One of those deep philosophical / theological questions down the centuries.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 10:44 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Jesus fulfilled all the Old Testament prophecies as He was predestined to do …[]… He actively chose “not my will, but your will be done”

unHoly fuuk.

“predestined to do …[]… He actively chose”

It’s like an episode of “Dr Who” (1985) with the Daleks “does not compute … does not compute … does not compute”.

One of those deep philosophical / theological questions down the centuries.

Definitely, for the 95% golden ratio of gullible, guilty, self-centred stupid a-hole fraction of humanity/bot/NPC.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 28, 2025 11:57 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

Why is the Bible the most read book of all time?
Why do Jesus penetrate and shine through everything globally still here 2000 years after, what no man have ever done before?

This answer is also stated in the Scriptures: “Because he was without sin“.

And the Pharisees teared their clothes apart and jumped around in the streets naked and whining and crying and howling.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 4:33 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Because it’s the only book in every hotel room… they would have put War and peace instead, people would have fallen asleap on it just the same

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 11:54 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Until the printing press The Sayings of Yah were spread by Messengers of Yah.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 3:45 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

You are desperate.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 30, 2025 10:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You are an a-hole.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 29, 2025 8:43 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I think the vast masses are rarely right.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 9:11 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Your thinking is right. But dont think it out loud because we would get all organised Unions on our back.

eccentric
eccentric
Oct 29, 2025 9:31 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Why is the Bible the most read book of all time?

Let’s put this into real perspective.

It was given away for free and forced on people, and has had several hundred years of promotion by gunpoint/torture.

That hardly equates to a bestseller.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 30, 2025 5:19 AM
Reply to  eccentric

1. Denial phase
2. Anger phase
3. Bargaining phase
4. Depression phase
5. Paying in Dollares for the Bible

Its embarrassing so many people cant accept simple facts without a major psychological break down period.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 8:01 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

“3. Bargaining phase”

That’s where you are currently.

With my help you will get through the depression stage quickly then buy as many Bibles as you can then burn them.

The whole thing is traumatic but you will eventually become an adult with a mediocre level of critical thought.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:56 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

“Why is the Bible the most read book of all time?”

Um, because idiots love fantasy and fairy stories and Santa and…

kakhsj
kakhsj
Oct 30, 2025 7:35 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

Disgusting comment!!!!

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 6:36 AM
Reply to  kakhsj

Disgusting comment!!!!

Luv it  😂 

Further dissension in the Christian ranks perhaps.

That bunch of a-holes have definitely aquired more of the problems associated with herding cats than sheep.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 28, 2025 6:26 PM

John 18:36 (MCV) Yashua answered Pilate, My Kingdom is not of this world: if my Kingdom were of this world, THEN WOULD MY SERVANTS FIGHT, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE DEWS: but now is my Kingdom not from hence.

eccentric
eccentric
Oct 28, 2025 5:44 PM

Evil men, at least they know they’re evil… whereas a good man will gladly burn the whole world down to do what he thinks is right.”

John Manning
John Manning
Oct 28, 2025 7:55 PM
Reply to  eccentric

Only if that good man is European. There are still civilizations within humanity.

eccentric
eccentric
Oct 28, 2025 5:43 PM

Tom Robbins — ‘If it is committed in the name of God or country, there is no crime so heinous that the public will not forgive it. ‘

Binra
Binra
Oct 28, 2025 3:30 PM

The politicisation of ‘Jesus’ seeks gain of faction.
Allowing that bombs or tech-industrial warfare had no existence in his time – though war certainly did – the question -if anything merely states a contradiction in terms. “Who would Jesus kill?”
Or call to be killed?
Or to be sacrificed?
I’d say that we witnessed and exemplified a love that did not demand sacrifice – and as such undermined the systemic order of guilting sacrifice as the basis of the religious and social hierarchy.
I accept that he recognised that he would become a scapegoat-sacrifice to such a blind structure or world, in which he did not join or support by either giving or receiving guilt.
Give only love, for that is who you are.
For as we give, sets the measure of our receiving – not in the eyes of the world that would get rid of guilt to the Other, but in law, nature and function of Mind – from which a split mind dissociates as an out-picturing or projection of War on Self.

The tares not only grow among the wheat, they choke it and bring it to death. A belief or investment in separation from light is in the use of darkness to mask or hide. And the sense of separation from life can only be death. A world of death over-masks a true creation in which a Self-hate enacts over and again as if to get rid of a hate it assigns to the Other and attacks as its law, nature and vested identity.

Framing politics in ‘moral’ judgements’ (set by grievance) serves the basis for the systems-capture of humanity under a Financially incentivised and enforced ‘Military Industrial Complex’ – whose reach so far extends the bounds of any traditionally derived political power structure as to render it obsolete.

Look at Escape Key on substack if only to skim the revealing of a cage you have been trained and willing to NOT see by the management of perceptions of narrative-shaped responses.
But also know that such a world is set on lies – for WHO decides the policy that is set into standards and protocols by which to frame permission to transact or access goods and services?

War is a fundamental to the system of countermeasures that are raised upon it to ‘make a world’ in its own image. War generates debt as well as denials that run down the generations.

War as a mind-set is less able to see when we are operating from it.
Jesus offers renewal of a living communion rather than a boost or reset – but a mind predicated on conflict will only ‘see’ in terms of threat.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 5:25 PM
Reply to  Binra

Or to be sacrificed?

I’d say that we witnessed and exemplified a love that did not demand sacrifice

Jesus’ life and death were not only about unmasking scapegoating and violence (as thinkers such as René Girard might suggest),

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Girard

but also about something deeper. It went beyond anthropology.

It was God reconciling humanity to Himself – the perfect atonement for sin. There was a vertical dimension – God and humanity – not only the horizontal dimension of human-to-human relations.

Jesus fulfilled and perfected the sacrificial system, offering himself “once for all.”

As Hebrews 10:10 says: “We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

https://biblehub.com/hebrews/10-10.htm

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 12:02 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Beautiful!

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:05 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Beautiful!

Definitely, for those that love shovelling and receiving shite i.e. the unHoly a-holes.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 4:41 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

And then people were… exacly the same scapegoats to be exploited by the rulers… convinced that they were siners but were lucky someone died for them… now back to work you dirty slave

Binra
Binra
Oct 29, 2025 10:05 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Who rules your heart and mind? – Why give to Caesar what is not due unto Caesar?
The use of guilting projection can rule the minds of those who think to use it as a gain of function.
i see it runs a usurp of true function as nurtured grievance.
I don’t seek to dismiss your pain in life, but I do see that in this world we can be shaped by pain and fear of threat of loss – and so can be ruled by others through fears and conflicts we may not allow into awareness – for want of a less painful normal.
Of course lies can frame truth as a weapon!
But that does not set the Lie as Truth – unless you insist— for then you shall defend it as your truth!
If a greater love becomes lost to virtue signalling – then lovelessness has been tolerated and normalised to masking social rituals of mutual reinforcement.
“Dirty slave” must then be accused and derided in the other by the groupthink of the moral right to rule.
(I realise you were using parody in mockery of ‘dirty ruler’).

Binra
Binra
Oct 29, 2025 9:49 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

I prefer to see that there is no sacrifice in God (love) – but a split mind framed in conflicted ‘love’ projects a self+world ‘made real in the mind’ by sacrifice. An inversion of reality is impossible IN reality – but be-lived in concept.
Giving or yielding up the self-concept to God is the reliquishment of a private claim or right to authoritative judgement. This undoes the ‘Separation’ or ‘Fall’ revealing truth unto Its Own.
The crossover is indeed the Reconciliation and resonance of Love of the Father and Son as love of brother as self. IE: Jesus two commandments are the underlying truth,
The undoing of sin is in the recognition and release of a mistake rooted in judgement that ‘sacrifices’ God for an idol or masking solution of vested illusions given power and priority.
“Forgive them Father” is not forgiveness BY Jesus but does embody yielding a mind of vengeance framed in grievance to a Living Will.
That the world (of sin) runs on vengeance is masked over by heavily defended masking self-justification for tyrannous dictate.
Because the ‘Son of Man’ believes he has sinned in the heart of God, he lives the fruits thereof as if made BY a God of Terror—excluded, cast out, and damned -BUT for gaining virtue credits by which to boost a moral claim to self-salvation.
All that we made (of life) in vain is undone to a truth beyond our concept or manufacture, but truth never attacks, and so the truth of life is held in trust while we ‘battle in illusions given power of death over life.

To lose face may seem to expose to a damning rejection and denial in a world of defended and competitive self-specialness, but to yield ‘face’ is of unselfconscious humility within a love that self-specialness ‘sacrifices’ as the basis for its asserted existence.

Framing in guilt as demand for sacrifice is not only a denial of holiness, but claims moral right to usurp, speak for and replace, God.

Hence sin is protected and defended BY the defences raised against it.
Covid Op offers a recognition for how a Medical Industrial Complex can frame the mass mind in its own countermeasures via the framing of Terror in threat of fear of pain of loss—compounded and locked down by guilting sacrificial compliance.
For even as you do unto the least among you – you do unto (your self and) Me.

A separate sense of self carries a dissonance of being stolen, and thus to be taken back in retribution. “To lose even the little that ye hath”. There is another way of seeing than as fear and guilt dictate – but not while you WANT to see sins in the Other as your own salvation.

Projection makes perception—but the extension of a living love knows giving and receiving are one. Questioning what we call reality is possible and necessary because it isn’t living truth.
In Living love there is no place for a mind to step outside and conceive a question – How than is a mind phished in its own concept of life and love, to worth-ship Self-image in place of true With-ness?

Identity theft is identity in conflict with itself by reaction. This can be readily observed in the moment at hand, as the past reiterates as a present while we use it to frame and shape the Meaning by and of the life we share in.

“Thy Will be done” releases self-judgement over life to a discernment within the living—but all forms of appearance can be masked in by a-tempt to ‘join’ in a gain of fiction as a ‘dark function’ of self-specialness.

Gaining a mask of unity by joining in special hate, runs ‘special love’.
If the mask slips or breaks the hate reveals itself openly.
Releasing a ‘special love’ is anticipated (projected) as sacrifice, humiliation and loss of a life framed in status and control.
Self-contradiction underlies double think – a split mind.
There is no ‘special’ love—split off from a true inherence—but a persistent demand for an impossible outcome is released to serve in it undoing.
To be even as a servant in ‘my father’s house’ releases a stolen ‘inheritance’.

How does a world of war and deceit relate to the truth of love?
It does not and cannot but run as the denial or death of love.
What then is love?
We are wiser to ask than presume to know.
For as we judge shall define the maker.
‘Idological’ capture as a form of blind narcissism!

“And we watch in reverence as Narcissus is turned to”
an algorithmic flower!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 29, 2025 12:16 PM
Reply to  Binra

You would appear to be redefining core Christian concepts in purely psychological, metaphysical terms.

The ‘Fall’ was a historical and spiritual event. Not just psychological separation in the mind

‘Sin’ isn’t just a mistaken perception or an illusion to be undone. It’s rebellion against God

‘Sacrifice’ isn’t just a human projection of guilt and fear. It’s a part of God’s nature.

‘Forgiveness’ includes Christ’s atoning work, not just surrendering judgment.

And ‘Love’ is more than a universal, non-dual, unsplittable concept. It’s exemplified by the covenantal love revealed in Christ.

“…Because the ‘Son of Man’ believes he has sinned in the heart of God,…”

One of the main aspects of Jesus’ life was that He was without sin.

Binra
Binra
Oct 29, 2025 12:56 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

When Jesus came out of the garden and found himself judging his disciples he went back in to pray – and yet again – until he was without temptation to judge (in the face of an imminent physical death). If you except Jesus from Humanity, you make an idol. Idols are solutions that mask a problem to projected solutions that are elsewhen or never here or Now.

I don’t accept human concepts as divine authority – but nor do I claim any authority over your free willing decision.
The Materialism of a modern era redefined God, Life & living into a frame of physical temporal assumptions. IE: The ‘Death of God’

Any IMAGE or CONCEPT of God, reality, or life can be used as a basis for a conflicted will – which I called a split-mind.
‘Rebellion’ against reality is actually operating to deny awareness of reality by substitution.

When errors are not corrected they mask in lies that demand further lies to hide the first. An invested self-illusion will thus defend lies as a basis from which to attack truth. Truth itseld cannot be threatened by lies, but our awareness of truth – and capacity to tell truth from lies – CAN and HAS been – thus I don’t disagree with your parable but expand it to a living and present responsibility for the use of our mind.

The Mind of God is not a psychological object of study but I note the use of psychological in place of psychic. The arrogance of the mind that thinks to study itself from a perspective set outside and apart is an intellectual pride or ignorance of the mind through which we think and see.

To let your mind be renewed as it was in Christ Jesus – is not a ‘psychological’ nor ‘theological’ nor ‘metaphysical’ domain of expertise.

Meta-physic or super-natural are terms that indicate an expansion of our concepts of physics or nature. But an inflation or expansion of the ego will subvert any such revelation to forms of control – or abort it.

Why not share in the human ‘territory’ without the claim to a monopoly over ways to speak (or be damned!).

Binra
Binra
Oct 29, 2025 12:58 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

I consciously chose ‘Son of Man’ – NOT Son of God.
The difference is all the difference.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 12:00 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

You need to learn what HU-MANITY is, for it’s not MANKIND:

Hu; Hu-mans; Cainites; Canaanites; Dews = The Serpent Seed:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2021/08/18/hu-hu-mans-canaanites-the-serpent-seed/

A MAN (A SON OF ADAM) IS NOT A HU-MAN AND A HU-MAN IS NOT A MAN (A SON OF ADAM)

Hu-man Being – See MONSTER — Ballentine’s Law Dictionary (1930)
Monster: A hu-man being by birth, but in some part resembling a lower animal.

A monster hath no inheritable blood, and cannot be heir to any land. — Ballentine’s Law Dictionary (1930)

Binra
Binra
Oct 29, 2025 1:23 PM

I wont even consider telling you – or anyone else —what they need to learn.
But I recognise that by making choices you meet the fruits of your choices as a basis to learn to persist in what truly serves you and release or discard what does not -regardless whether it in some way served who you thought you were.

I recognise that The intent to weaponise Law as THE means to leverage all else (Via bent Finance and bent Science – toward systems capture is a multi-generational agenda.

I recognise a world and mind of deceits – but I don’t choose to engage in them. Or to state positively – I choose to engage with the living and release the dead.

A dead concept is not alive but has all the life we give it – for what we think to gain thereby. That we gain a world but lose our Soul is something to bring to a truly current accounting.

So for the most part I use human being but am less at one with the current use of ‘humans’ as if a lab species or aliens relative to a disembodied mind.

Rather than see ‘learning’ as an accumulation of ‘knowledge’. I use my current result or fruit as an example of my current choices. Learning to align Soul awareness is then a freedom from ‘knowledge-based rules and filters’ to move or be moved by that which truly identifies all that lives – and which knows itself by extension. or in simple terms we remember love in the giving.
I don’t dare or care to define what love is —in terms of image, form or quantified data. But without love all becomes a ghastly hollow parody of life – however much we boost it or pump it with sacrificial self-inflations.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 2:40 PM
Reply to  Binra

By the looks of it you have nothing to teach, apart from how to present word salads that mean nothing, some might call it circumlocution.

Binra
Binra
Oct 29, 2025 5:46 PM

By the looks of things, some might say?
You hit the nail with a head!

But everyone teaches – all the time – and by their teaching -they learn.
So what would you learn?
That you are ‘lied to’?
That you are enslaved?

Those who tell you that you are being lied to, may well seek to use your mind for their agenda.

How do you determine true from false?
How can you know truth but that it reveals you free?

Monsters are used to guard the exits – but they are part of you in ways that are kept hidden, for a world that masks truth for gain of fiction.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 7:12 PM
Reply to  Binra

You’re off-topic and too boring by half. The subject is the difference between hu-man kind and mankind, and something you know nothing about.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:09 AM

You’re off-topic and too boring by half.

Binra is, approximately, 25% as boring as you.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 10:06 AM
Reply to  Lu1

So blind as well as boring! Hu-man kind or mankind, I wonder what you are?

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 11:14 AM

“So blind as well as boring”

I don’t recall ever calling you blind, just a megalomaniacal, malevolent deity loving a-hole.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 12:20 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Oh dear, how does one recall anything of value when your head is full of carnal minded garbage?

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 1:45 PM

“Oh dear, how does one recall anything of value when your head is full of carnal minded”

Far more more practical cf pontificating about a particular version of a bloody awful fairy story along with versions from the other cats.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 2:51 PM
Reply to  Lu1

There’s those a-hole ignorant opinions again. LOL

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 6:20 PM

“There’s those a-hole ignorant opinions again. LOL”

Only in the opinion of those a-holes who love the reality or idea of the megalomaniacal, malevolent Yah (or YHWH or whatever TF it’s called now).

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 1, 2025 10:35 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 10:44 AM

Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Numb to it’s own B/S, intended response, job done  👍 

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 1, 2025 11:01 AM
Reply to  Lu1

The Job will be done when this occurs:

Revelation 20:11 (MCV) And I saw a Great White Throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face (countenance) the earth and the heaven (atmosphere) fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 8:32 PM

Revelation 20:11 (MCV) And I saw a Great White Throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face (countenance) the earth and the heaven (atmosphere) fled away; and there was found no place for them.

It really is the biggest bummmer anywhere, ever, that the judge is an omnipotent yet megalomaniacal, malevolent a-hole.

Therefore:

An eternity in Hell for the vast majority on the broadway but the “elect” might wind up there, eventually, anyway at the discretion of the big-fukken-daddy.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 10:48 AM
Reply to  Lu1

How is Yah malevolent when He wishes to save all mankind, and will raise them all from the dead and grant them Eternal Life?

Where have you learned all this satanic poison?

lu1
lu1
Nov 2, 2025 3:03 PM

How is Yah malevolent when He wishes to save all mankind, and will raise them all from the dead and grant them Eternal Life?

Where is this eternal life to be spent.

https://off-guardian.org/2025/10/27/who-would-jesus-bomb-the-gospel-according-to-the-military-industrial-complex/

Yah is a jealous Yah, and nothing angers Him more that insults to His Son. This is a serious warning, so take heed.

If IT’s son can be insulted to make IT angry without consequnce why should anyone take heed/be concerned:

Revelation 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 3:22 PM
Reply to  lu1

Where is this eternal life to be spent.

On the New Earth.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 6:15 PM

“On the New Earth”

With zero consequence for previously calling UT &/or the son an a-hole

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 6:54 PM
Reply to  Lu1

More unintelligible gibberish.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 7:55 PM

“More unintelligible gibberish.”

Idiot.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 3, 2025 10:21 AM
Reply to  Lu1

How does a dribbling imbecile know what an idiot is?

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 3, 2025 12:53 PM

How does a dribbling imbecile know what an idiot is?

No idea.

How does an a-hole conclude that insects can use computers.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 6:36 PM

I followed your advise. Your teachings make a lot of sense, thank you.

But, we should also be aware that to correct a language from semantic manipulations and new speak words will take as long as the said has been in force.
And we face a dilemma, as should use 50 years on teaching people all the gramma errors who was sneaking into the language for centuries, or should we go directly to the substance, with all its errors, when we have found it?
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Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 7:16 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

If you love The Truth, then my teachings will always make sense, it was what I was called to do.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:13 AM

If you love The Truth, then my teachings will always make sense

Yes & no.

The truth is that Yah (or YHWH or whatever TF IT’s called now) is a megalomaniacal, malevolent a-hole.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 10:10 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Opinions are like a-holes but The Truth is not an opinion.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 11:23 AM

“Opinions are like a-holes but The Truth is not an opinion”

Hence my “yes&no”.

Truth = If IT is a/the deity then, by revelation, IT is a megalomaniacal, malevolent entity.

Opinion=
you love IT
If IT exists, I consider IT an a-hole.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 12:24 PM
Reply to  Lu1

I never answer the questions of know-nothing numbskulls – nothing personal.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 6:25 PM

“I never answer the questions of know-nothing numbskulls – nothing personal”

I generally make a point of replying to you and any other gullible a-hole promoting malevolent B/S.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 1, 2025 10:44 AM
Reply to  Lu1

A reply constitutes a coherent argument which I have yet to see from you. ‘General’ only applies to you when followed by the word ‘nuisance’.

Still, most platforms have one or two – goes with the territory.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 8:26 AM

A reply constitutes a coherent argument which I have yet to see from you.

You can’t see it because you don’t want to see it.

You don’t want to see it because you are a fukken a-hole.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 10:56 AM
Reply to  Lu1

If the comment is incoherent, how does one see it, really your comments should be ignored.

lu1
lu1
Nov 2, 2025 3:07 PM

If the comment is incoherent

If it’s incoherent it’s because you haven’t the mental capacity to understand it.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 3:25 PM
Reply to  lu1

I have answered the question.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 6:13 PM

“I have answered the question”

Make up your fukken mind:

“Messenger Charles

Oct 31, 2025 12:24 PM
Reply to Lu1
I never answer the questions of know-nothing numbskulls – nothing personal”

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 6:50 PM
Reply to  Lu1

“I have answered the question”

The question being the issue at hand, which was your incoherent garbage comment, like all your comments.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 7:58 PM

“The question being the issue at hand”

Yes yes yes

But,

Make up your fukken mind:

“Messenger Charles

Oct 31, 2025 12:24 PM
Reply to Lu1
I never answer the questions of know-nothing numbskulls – nothing personal”

Idiot.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 3, 2025 10:24 AM
Reply to  Lu1

A question being an issue is no longer a question, it’s an issue.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 7:10 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Your teachings make a lot of sense, thank you.

This will not end well, a boring a-hole teaching an extremely boring a-hole.

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:13 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Yes, you listen to the Hebrews like a good goy

Rats in the walls
Rats in the walls
Oct 31, 2025 3:14 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Yes, you listen to the Hebrews like a good *rhymes with boy*

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 31, 2025 5:48 PM

The book was actually written *to* the Hebrews not by them. But never mind, we all get our directions mixed up

I wouldn’t have thought ‘goy’ would be a pending word, assuming that that’s the word you were too fearful to pronounce directly.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 31, 2025 5:49 PM

ok, well maybe it was a pending word after all

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Oct 28, 2025 3:10 PM

Florida man – arrested for the second time in a week, for feeding homeless folk, meanwhile a cut to food stamps is happening on the 1st of November – it will be a hungry thanksgiving for some, but hey – that golden ballroom will take their minds off their rumbling bellies.

https://nitter.poast.org/YourAnonNews/status/1982773547539063204#m

https://nitter.poast.org/ProudSocialist/status/1982905065469030872#m

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 12:23 PM

Yesterday our local major branch grocery store was alarmingly empty… It has been lacking some products for a while but yesterday it was generalized. How about your part of the world?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 6:44 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

I just checked mine. Plenty of booze and tobacco = No problems……yet. But off course it could come here too some sunny day.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 1:53 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

“Plenty of booze and tobacco = No problems……yet.”

Maybe you could have a word with God in Heaven when you get there to keep the fags and Vodka going.

Being a “higher” being than the angels there, when your spirit becomes intoxicated with spirit you could maybe use that as an excuse to abuse an angel.

You’d probably be better to ask God if that is a sin though in case you get turfed out and wind up with those that took the Broadway.

In any case, keep the kneepads handy.

pryruts
pryruts
Oct 28, 2025 2:32 PM

Any updates? on the incoming shut downs.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 8:06 PM
Reply to  pryruts

Indeed.They all proved to be over-imaginative hype and excessive paranoia. It’s now safe to venture out of the cave

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 30, 2025 5:22 AM
Reply to  pryruts

Stay afraid pryruts.

Sandman
Sandman
Oct 28, 2025 12:02 PM

If you’re truly wondering about Jesus/ His judgements..Go to Chapters 23 &24 of the books of Matthew. Read especially 23:31- 24;34. Then, go read Flavius Josephus “Wars” especially Book 5 starting in Chapter 10 through Book 6. Not ONE stone left upon another…🤔. Nothing ‘fake” here…the Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD is documented history written/acknowledged by various authors/beliefs…

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 8:08 PM
Reply to  Sandman

Indeed. Josephus in his ‘Antiquities’ or ‘Wars’ had no reason to favour Christians. He documented what he saw

Martillo
Martillo
Oct 28, 2025 11:27 AM

The Orange Utang, blackmailed as he is due to his best buddy Mossad pedovore Epstein’s kiddy porn clips, is caught in a “vice” of his own making. No doubt the aging “pussy grabber” is up to his neon thatch in nefarious deeds too many to mention and as such he is leading his bankrupt USSAN tax cattle ever deeper into the mire that the beast in occupied Palestine has created for him. Whether it is the ongoing dumpster fire in rump Ukraine or the USSAN paid for (on credit) genocide in Khazar occupied Palestine and the next war on Iran, Trump will be remembered as the demented clown (as in Batman) that finally led to the long overdue and much awaited collapse of the most evil state on the planet. Meanwhile the gender challenged mutants that Euro peons call their leaders, along with the Natostan hawks and Von der Lyin’s Pedovore Politburo in Brussels, are all begging to get whacked by Mother Russia’s “big, new, wonderful” hypersonic weapons. Either these treacherous fools will be incinerated by the Bear or chased down and butchered by pitch fork wielding paupers as the economy of the EUSSR putrifies and the infidel hordes of Merkill imported Mohammadan migrants run amok a la Coudenhove Kalergi, the old Rothschild NAZI “theorist” who came up with the ludicrous idea of a Urupp under the total control of the Germanic warmongers and their AngloZio Wall St. bankster cousins. Either way the future is bleak and nobody will control the fast approaching maelstrom despite what the neocohens and their “willing helpers” imagine in the depths of their psychopathy.

Onward to the co₤₤ap$€ of their worthless fiat filth as they try in vain to herd the restless sheeple into their digital gulag for total control in their dystopian future.

https://southfront.press/ursula-von-der-leyens-father-pardoned-nazi-mass-murderer/

Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes, by Andrew M. Lobaczewski
https://www.sott.net/article/152452-Political-Ponerology-A-Science-of-Evil-Applied-for-Political-Purposes

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Oct 28, 2025 12:15 PM
Reply to  Martillo

You were looking good with that assessment until you mentioned the Bear incinerating the West. Vlad won’t be doing any incinerating unless he gets the green light from the same controllers who run the Western puppets. The back stage theatre puppeteers decide who, when and how they are incinerated, if at all.

Also linking Southfront to prove the Fond of Lying family has a dodgy past is hardly necessary. Southfront even has a game on its website called Smash the Nazis. Laughable for a so-called serious alt-media snooze outlet. Utter clowns.

https://southfront.press/smashthenazis

With a world supposedly full of Nazis I have still yet to meet one…where are they hiding?

Yet, I have met many communists, all proudly out in the open. Yet, there is no game on SF called Smash the Bolsheviks.

Martillo
Martillo
Oct 28, 2025 12:29 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Your post seems to allude to the idea that somehow NAZI$ are “kosher”…or what am I misconstruing? Southfront is as reliable a source of information as any on all of the debauched “West’s” serial bouts of global slaughter for the profit of the AngloZionaZi$. And what pray tell is the problem with “Smash the Nazis”, unless of course one is one of those antifa phucks?

Look in the Washing town sewer, it’s choc a bloc with geriatric naZi critters.

All wars are bankster wars.

AngloZionaZi bankster$, the most evil collection of filth ever to breed.

Get up to speed on history

https://dn721601.ca.archive.org/0/items/antony-c-sutton/Sutton_Antony_Cyril_-_The_best_enemy_money_can_buy.pdf

Martillo
Martillo
Oct 28, 2025 12:34 PM
Reply to  Martillo
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 12:12 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

So you have seen nothing yet. Some of these guys here live close to where I live.
This photo is real and you can find thousands of them on the next.
Now you have no more excuses.comment image .

Freeflow
Freeflow
Oct 28, 2025 10:40 AM

Oddly, confusing spiritual depth with politics runs through many of the comments, which is exactly what the article is pointing out. Whatever one thinks of Christ, and whether or not one’s opinion is biased by unconsciously or consciously taking the corruption of the original message by a mass control orientated ‘church’ as true ‘Christianity’, the meaning and depth of the original message is quite simply of peace, leading to the benefit of all mankind. Having trained and studied both Zen / Ch’an Buddhism and Christian Mysticism through the contemplative path – when one reaches inward to the vast, all pervasive, alive, profound silence, there’s no possible way to confuse what one finds there with politics. One great American who stirred the religious pot with true understanding was Thomas Merton, and we know how his early end unfolded. So, regarding Christianity and all ‘religions’, we should surely not throw the preverbal baby out with the bathwater, least we lose our chance of true peace, humility and humanity.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 8:51 PM
Reply to  Freeflow

Good post. Thomas Merton’s “Thoughts in Solitude” has a well-earned slot on my favorites shelf.

The ‘contemplative’ path in a sense being a denial of politics by default. Its exemplars being those who have ventured into an Egyptian or any other ‘desert’. .

Meanwhile, there are others who live perennially in cities, pursuing politics as their vocation. Gonacharov’s novel “Oblomov” to some extent explores the tension. As does his “The Same Old Story”. That of the contemplative life vs the active, political type.

Yet the writings of the extreme contemplatives in the Egyptian desert, most notably captured in the Philokalia, influenced Dostoevsky, someone to be later heavily integrated into society. And they also entered mainstream Russian Orthodoxy. Not to mention the streams of more-worldly disciples who’d ventured out to emulate the pioneers.

The true pioneer inevitably attracting followers, if they’ve pursued anything worthwhile, seems to be the rule

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 11:29 AM
Reply to  Freeflow

“the meaning and depth of the original message is quite simply of peace, leading to the benefit of all mankind.”

Bollix. It’s a good cop (Jesus) bad cop (kill the Egyptian first born) mass control psyop.

landy
landy
Oct 28, 2025 8:23 AM

Ever since the creation of the fake story about Ye$hua /All$h or T$lm£d, there has NEVER been and will NEVER be peace.
That’s why they created fake stories to divide non-believers from believers.
You’ve all witnessed what they are willing to do in the name of their fake high chosen from the fake backstories.

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Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 28, 2025 6:32 PM
Reply to  landy

There is only ONE Abrahamic Faith = those who put their Faith in The Father and The Son, Yashua Messiah.

The DUALITY YAHHEAD (Godhead) of YAH with YAH who became The Father and The Son = NOT A TRINITY, NOR A MONOGOD!:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/the-duality-godhead/

Let US make man in OUR IMAGE and in OUR LIKENESS = THE ELOHIM = the plural of Eloah or Eloha.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 28, 2025 8:17 PM

There might be some ambiguity over the use of the plural. Some Hebrew plurals being more indicative of greatness (the same applying to Behemoths, and Leviathans, I believe). Much like the Royal ‘we’.

But otherwise sound

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 28, 2025 9:47 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

No, there is no ambiguity, just trinity agenda and monotheistic agenda at play = total nonsense.

Elohim is plural, Eloah or Eloha is singular, and Elohim is the word used in Genesis 1:1, not Eloah or Eloha.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 1:47 AM

This is still not quite clear for me what your explanation here are.
God is God, and the Holy Spirit is God’s Divine power, and Jesus Christ is is God’s favourite son like Lucifer once was one of God’s favourite brilliant Angels who failed and betrayed.

I am not into we should have all gramma, comma and points correctly, when we deal with things up there.
Its enough we do understand the substance in it, because there is plenty of other serious things to deal with down here.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 9:47 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You’re not being specific enough = Yah can be Yah The Father, or Yah The Son, that is, two distinct Spiritual Beings, who are NEVER ONE BEING = The Elohim – plural of Eloah or Eloha.

The Set Apart Exclusive Spirit Is Their Living POWER, an immense Force, NOT A PERSON of a mickey mouse fabricated trinity.

Yashua Messiah is the ONLY begotten Son of The Father and there is no other = The Yahavah.

It’s not rocket science!

Lucifer doesn’t exist – Lucifer is another fabrication of Rome.

Exposing The Lucifer Lie And With it, All The Luciferian Myths!:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-isaiah-1412-and-with-it-all-the-luciferian-myths-part-1/

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 6:58 PM

As I wrote, we have plenty of issues to not go into all details. I think some day I will read your link as I find your homepage very interesting but not now.

It is not substantial for us to know that Yah can be Father and Son at the same time, and that Christ is not this his son but another special overall son which is not equal to Lucifer bla bla.

What you write is interesting for fallen angels or the organisation upstairs. It is of no use for us down here.

We down here know own one dark force Satan, Beast, Lucifer, Devil, many names, and his hangers the fallen angels.
Their correct family branches and organisation are also not interesting.
What is interesting is how we keep this dark force at bay down in our lives.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 7:25 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

If The Father is calling you, you will read my articles without delay, for you will be hungry for The Truth. If He’s not calling you, then you won’t. It is what it is. I’m not here to convince anyone.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 2:05 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

“It is not substantial for us to know”

For FS, take the marbles out of your mouth and just tell M.C. that, like you, he’s a n.other Christian cat spouting fantasy drivel.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 29, 2025 5:19 PM

Elohim has an appearance of a plural, with its -im ending and yet the verb in Genesis 1:1 ‘created’ ie ‘bara’ (beth – resh – aleph) ,’ is in the masculine singular, perfect tense, third person form ie for one person – a ‘he’.

The plural form ‘they created’ would have been ‘baru’ (beth – resh -aleph – vav).

All indicative of a single God not a plurality

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 5:42 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Spare me the quasi-intellectual explaining away. Elohim is the plural of Eloah or Eloha, so there are no ‘appearances’, whatever they are.

There is a simplicity that is in The Messiah 2 Corinthians 11:3
and there is nothing simple in what you’re saying, just vanity.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 7:08 PM

A two headed Yah because the Scriptures says “Let US make this and that”?
Come on Charles, you cant mean that  😅 .

We are made in God’s image, thus God has a team organisation to create things, but God is the Leader.
Come let us (his Sergeants, Generals, CFO’s, his team whatever) do this and that“. It is THAT easy!

Excuse me but I am with Vagabard here because her version sounds much more logical and fits in.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 7:37 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

No one can create other than The Yahhead! The angelic realm were created by Yashua Messiah, and created spiritual beings cannot create.

Let US make man in OUR IMAGE and in OUR LIKENESS.

Two beings in conversation!!! As I said, it’s not rocket science. Maybe it’s too simple for you to grasp.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 8:09 PM

Or Messiah is the female part of Yah, so they are wife and husband, a couple?
Whatever it is, I will check that one also up one day when I have nothing to do, now now.

We have at least so far killed Trinity, that God is 3 persons in one, and that this 1 (3) transformed himself to a little humble Christ walking around here who tortured and killed himself on a cross because he loved us SO much……, and by the way, Christ which is also himself also love us SO much.

So we are not that far from each other. But from a 3-headed to a 2-headed no.
1 head! Remember we are created in IT’s image.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 8:11 PM

We man are spiritual beings, and we can create (design and make).

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 8:51 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Angels are not created in Yah’s image. Only man is created in Yah’s image. Once resurrected we will be higher than the angels.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 29, 2025 10:16 PM

The next verse (Genesis 1:27) has ‘created’ 3 times in the masculine singular, alongside ‘Elohim’ for God. Making it clear that one singular God did the creating

“So God [Elohim] created [masculine singular, imperfect form ‘va-yivra’] mankind in his own image [singular], in the image of God [Elohim] he created [‘bara’, masculine singular perfect form] them; male and female he created [‘bara’] them.”

https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-27.htm

3 masculine singular forms of the verb ‘created’, plus an “in his own image” with singular forms (‘his’ and ‘image’). Ergo, one God

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 30, 2025 5:29 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Yes nothing else make logic. But our good messinger here has many good points elsewhere in other areas.

I like his explanation around the sin fall in paradise, that off course it must have been a grave criminal act to deserve such a grave punishment too. Fit and makes sense.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 7:02 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The guy has clearly done alot of work on his website. Many articles on a variety of topics. Which are no doubt worth exploring and pondering.

And I can see (I think) what he’s basically trying to do . Fit the Trinity into Genesis 1. But there’s little need to distort the concept of God to do so.

Both the ‘Spirit’ and ‘The Word’ are already evident in Genesis 1. The Spirit of God was hovering over the waters and God spoke as He created (the ‘Word’). God could have created silently without commentary but He didn’t. He created via His ‘Word’.

So God, His Spirit and His Word are all present in Genesis 1

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 10:51 AM
Reply to  Vagabard
Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 2:27 PM

You would appear to be replacing the ‘Trinity lie’ with … the Trinity. Albeit your own version. Some kinda ‘Yahhead’ father & son fused by a spirit’

Seems the very epitome of pride & vanity. That all previous versions of the Trinity down through the centuries were anathema except for one’s now enlightened version.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 3:28 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

A Duality of two distinct Spiritual Beings is not a satanic Trinity, nor is it an even more satanic Mono-god, you know the one, the deity of the Serpent Seed Dews and the grossly deceived, wretched, Muslims.

The Satanic Curse of Monotheism – Is Yah ONE? – Part 1:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2021/08/06/the-satanic-curse-of-monotheism-is-god-one/

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 3:43 PM

I see, so a duality trumps a threesome or a single. Two being inherently better than three or one.

How does anyone even reach such a warped perspective?

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 3:56 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

More accurately, The Truth trumps lies, the lies of The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.

YAH HAS NO RELIGION, CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION, AND YOU WILL NOT FIND THE WORD ‘RELIGION’ IN THE FOUR GOSPELS, which means, Yashua Messiah was never recorded as having ever uttered the word!

Roman Catholicism is not Christianity; Russian/Greek Orthodoxy is not Christianity; AngliCAINism/Episcopalianism is not Christianity; PROTESTantism is not Christianity = ALL ARE HEATHEN SATANIC RELIGIOUS ENTITIES.

“Protestant Christianity, from around 1830 and to this day, rejects Historical Interpretation and Revelations of The Set Apart Scriptures, and they still reject it!”

— YouTube Commentator

The Counterfeit Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/the-cainite-judeo-christian-religion/

The Truth is not warped, but religion is definitely warped.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 4:05 PM

Ok, well I don’t agree (as you might guess) but at least (to your credit) you’ve placed your cards on the table.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 4:48 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

I would expect nothing else than your disagreement, and The Truth must be declared come what may.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 9:01 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

If you were teaching someone with a low IQ, how would you get them to easily understand your quasi-intellectual semantic gibberish???

1 Corinthians 1:26-28 (MCV) For you see your CALLING, brethren, HOW THAT NOT MANY WISE MEN after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are CALLED: 27 But God hath CHOSEN the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath CHOSEN the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God CHOSEN, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought (zero) things that are:

I will say this for the last time: If Yah were one then Eloha or Eloah would have been used.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 2:28 PM

There are English words that appear plural but are in fact singular. ‘scissors’, ‘trousers’, ‘news’ being examples.

‘Elohim’ in Scripture is *always* used in the singular form when referring to the God of Israel. In terms of the gods of other nations it may be used in the plural.

eg Exodus 20:3 – “You shall have no other gods (elohim acherim) before me.”

Other Hebrew words that look plural but are used in the singular sense:

Behemoth (singular beast in Job, although its ending looks plural)
[behemah = “beast, cattle”]
Shamayim = heaven/sky
Terumot = offering

etc

In general they are referred to as ‘pluralia tantum’ (words that are plural in form but singular or collective in meaning) or plurals of majesty/intensity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plurale_tantum

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 3:46 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

How it’s used by satanic blasphemous creatures, with an equally satanic evil agenda, is neither here or there.

Eloah or Eloha are the singular words for Elohim, and they are not in use in Genesis 1:1 or anywhere else for that matter. Carry on building your strawmen but they won’t wash.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 8:46 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You’re now wasting my time. Go polish your own ego in your own time.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 8:24 PM

“Spare me the quasi-intellectual explaining away.”

More dissension among the ranks of the Christian cats.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 1, 2025 11:06 AM
Reply to  Lu1

You’re out of your depth. Stick to matters that you understand, if you can find any.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 8:55 PM

You’re out of your depth

at jiust above ground level here, I can see that you u r just a.n.other fukkken dickead.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 10:52 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Then mind that no one stands on you, my little ground level, irrelevant insect. LOL

lu1
lu1
Nov 2, 2025 3:09 PM

Then mind that no one stands on you, my little ground level, irrelevant insect.

Insects can’t write comments on off-g..

Idiot.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 3:28 PM
Reply to  lu1

Well they can, for you prove it.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 8:05 PM

“Well they can, for you prove it.”

Um,

Insects now operating computers.

Go back to watching Harry Potter or dreaming nightmares about the book of blood and your favourite blood soaked character Yah (or YHWH or whatever TF ITs called now).

Idiot.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 3, 2025 10:28 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Metaphor – look it up! A new experience for you.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 3, 2025 12:55 PM

look it up!

Take advice from an a-hole, no thanks.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 3, 2025 6:01 PM
Reply to  Lu1

It’s time for me to stop wasting my time on Off-Guardian’s in-house troll.

Hail
Hail
Oct 29, 2025 4:31 PM

Spoken like a true brainwashed.
hears your reward.

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Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 5:29 PM
Reply to  Hail

Spoken like a true carnal minded walking, talking corpse and they get no rewards.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 31, 2025 1:57 PM

“Let US make man in OUR IMAGE and in OUR LIKENESS = THE ELOHIM = the plural of Eloah or Eloha.”

No wonder IT is a dickhead.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 3:07 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Ah, Off-Guardian’s in-house clanging cymbal, I hope no one is paying you for the garbage you write here. It’s terrible value for money, if they are!

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 1, 2025 8:53 AM

I hope no one is paying you for the garbage you write here.

Why not just ask admin but would you believe them if they told you the truth.

Weather nice here today but might have a peek later to see if you have posted some more fairy story drivel.

 😉 

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 1, 2025 10:54 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Admin, like you, are strangers to The Truth.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 8:38 AM

Admin, like you, are strangers to The Truth.

You would need to forget about past problems, get up off your knees and develop some, even mediocre, critical thinking capability to banish these “true” fairy stories that you have developed.

Observation, so far, is that you are a much more serious case than E.K. which is, nearly, unbelievable.

With my help there’s a very small chance that E.K may yet start burning Bibles some day but you are extremely sick and should be classed as DNR.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 11:30 AM
Reply to  Lu1

The Set Apart Scriptures are the FOUNDATION TO ALL KNOWLEDGE, this is how I know you are Spiritually dead, and a carnal minded, walking, talking corpse.

Consequently everything I say is like an alien language to you. You will neither comprehend what I say, nor understand it. You are completely Spiritually blind and deaf.

Oh, He lifted me up off of my knees decades ago.

One only needs critical thinking when dealing with know-nothing numbskulls like yourself. Once you know The Truth, there is no need for critical thinking, for there is nothing to criticise.

“With your help”??? ROTFL! Hilarious!

E.K.???

lu1
lu1
Nov 2, 2025 3:12 PM

“The Set Apart Scriptures are the FOUNDATION TO ALL KNOWLEDGE”

In your Harry Potter like opinion only.

Remember to have Santa bring you a sack of knee pads.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 3:30 PM
Reply to  lu1

The Truth is not an opinion.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 8:13 PM

“The Truth is not an opinion”

You’ll be saying next that Lucy Letby is innocent (or guilty) next and whichever you declare it to be is “the truth”

You are a top drawer 100% a-hole from the 95% group.

ProActive
ProActive
Oct 28, 2025 1:05 AM

It is blasphemous to call him “Defense Secretary” when God made him:

The War Secretary

Robert Merrill
Robert Merrill
Oct 27, 2025 10:35 PM

While I agree with much of this argument, I think there is one major point that must be cleared up once and for all. It is this —

Which brings us to Donald Trump, the latest political “savior” anointed by Christian nationalists for whom the pursuit of a Christian theocracy now appears to outweigh allegiance to our constitutional democracy. . . .

“This is not Jesus’ Christianity—it is Christian nationalism: Christianity draped in the flag and wielding the weapons of war.”

This is not Christianity or even Christian Nationalism. It should properly be called Christian Zionism; that is, Christians who falsely believe that Israel and its Zionism are the roots and origins of Christianity. Charlie Kirk was someone who fell into this trap. They deploy Christianity as a method for endorsing the Zionist worship of the state.

Trump has been totally overcome by the Christian Zionists. “Making Israel Great Again” is his highest goal. His cabinet are all Israeli zealots, worst of all is Marco Rubio who was vetted by Larry Ellison and Netanyahu.

The Zionist State of Israel is not by any means a religious state and it has none of the political and moral values outlined above. It is an apartheid and genocidal state which has always been at war against its neighbors. There’s a new book with the title “Rise and Kill First” which outlines the non-stop murders by the Israelis since they began moving to Palestine in the early 20th century. The title comes from a line in the Talmud, which in complete form says, “If a man threatens you, rise and kill him first.” That’s what Israel has always done and that what it really is. Jesus said to love your enemies. Zionism say to kill them all.

Zionism has hijacked a substantial part of Christianity in the US. And Trump has been hijacked. We should understand that Epstein’s work for Mossad was to recruit American billionaires to become Zionist loyalists. In 2007 Netanyahu circulated among his staff a list of about 30 American billionaires he could “absolutely depend on.” Most of the names we know quite well — Larry Ellison, the Adelsons, Murdoch, and more. Trump’s name was on the list.



Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 8:18 PM
Reply to  Robert Merrill

Yes herein lies America’s biggest problem. Americans are seen as stupid bullies for first of all Israel, and then second to City of London where Prince Charles now is Chairman.
There are not many left from Lincoln’s Independence Days.

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Oct 27, 2025 10:33 PM

Skip the highly edited new testament and head straight for the gnostic gospels where you’ll come to understand clearly who Jeshua really was, and how his yogic teachings were deliberately twisted by the social controllers who didn’t want people awakening to their birthright of Self Authorship and spiritual empowerment, from within.. They wanted to create a culture of bowing down to external authority.. We can see how these patterns have intensified into the system of today.. Time to bust the bubble and emancipate ourselves from mental slavery, as the great man, Robert Nesta Marley instructed.. God is pure love, and is to be found in the awakened heart beyond the binary constructs of the logical mind.. The Gospel of Mary Magdalene is particularly revealing.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 29, 2025 3:14 AM
Reply to  Captain Spock

I’ve read all of the Nag Hammadi texts. Nothing revealing in them at all

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 11:31 AM
Reply to  Captain Spock

Gnostics are the same as JW’s, and reprobate in their thinking. Anyone who does not believe that Yashua Messiah was Yah come in the flesh is an anti-Christ. Yashua Messiah was The Yah of the Old Testament.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 8:23 PM

I had JW when I was child and have some with them contact from time to time.
I cannot recognize this. You must be referring to some Protestant or Orthodox movement and mixing the two.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 10:06 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Then look again, for it is official JW policy that Yashua Messiah was not Yah come in the flesh, they see Him as a created being.

I know, because I have challenged them on this, and in the past I have used it as my reason for not joining them. Otherwise, at the time, I found their teaching to be fairly sound.

I have since moved on and left them way behind.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 27, 2025 10:15 PM

It is not Christian nationalism, it is Zionism.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2025 10:13 PM

On the hypocrisy scale of ten, the USian administration has always been a ninety nine.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 28, 2025 1:15 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Funny what would happen if that 1 ever got a chance to get back at the administration

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 5:15 AM

We’d vote for him of course, as long as he’s one of the two

Ray Joseph Cormier
Ray Joseph Cormier
Oct 27, 2025 9:17 PM

The US is the BIGGEST arm merchant in the History of Nations and US Christian Nationalism has no problem with the Status Quo in denial of this Prophecy making no effort to make it so: And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plow shares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD. Isaiah 2

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 27, 2025 8:23 PM

Trump this, Trump that … just like a lot of other presidents the Trump figure is just allowed to do what the powers that be think is best for the US.

Different plays, same shit – only now the empire is about to fall.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 27, 2025 8:28 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

If everything where ok the US would have had a president like sweet talking Obama but these dire times calls for a vulgar nonsensical guy like Trump to take the focus away from all the problems.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 27, 2025 11:16 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Sweet talking but corrupt in Chicago… how do you think you get to office…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 28, 2025 2:12 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

We know that you and Obama have many many many personal problems, but couldnt you just give us this little pause in between as we have now?

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 28, 2025 8:30 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Eat your pills.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:28 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

Luke…the TDS runs strong with this one…

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:26 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

What are you blathering about?

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 28, 2025 8:35 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

Eat your pills.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 28, 2025 7:23 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

Trump isn’t “allowed to” anything. He’s been handed a script and he follows it. If he didn’t he’d be facing his own grassy knoll. And for real this time. No phony ear fountains.

landy
landy
Oct 28, 2025 8:25 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“You’re fired”

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 28, 2025 8:34 AM
Reply to  George Mc

He’s a stupid bully whose way suits the US and he’s allowed. Obomba on the other hand needed a script for everything.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 28, 2025 11:39 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

There’s no difference except in terms of presentation. Somebody from upstairs shouts, “Liberal lefty type needed now!” and later, “MAGA military nut this time!”

Just like how in 2020 the script handed down was to abandon the old “Right” entrepreneurship waffle and substitute all that phony “Leftism”.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 1:59 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Trump succeeded things;
He had the courage to pick RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, and fired the corrupted CDC, he tried/try to change Harvard/Yale to merit schools from minority schools, the Israeli military praised Trump for his efforts and buhed their own Chief for dragging out the war, he established a welfare fund to save the nation from bankruptcy, m.m. He actually do work.

What had you expected? Politicians off course do what their voters want yes?

40% of the US youth vote conservative because they are tired of their parents swinger clubs and their leftist father sissy jumping around with lipstick and skirts.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 29, 2025 9:03 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Politicians off course do what their voters want yes?

The typo is apt. Only politicians who are “OFF course” do what their voters want.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 8:28 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Correction: of course

les online
les online
Oct 27, 2025 8:21 PM

“The Original Sin was* Dis-Obedience” … (anon) …

… Eve was a Rebel (A refusenik, strong-headed, independent minded)

* Still is…

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 28, 2025 6:37 PM
Reply to  les online

The original sin was miscegenation (race mixing) – period – full stop – end of!

THE DEWS ARE THE SERPENT SEED!!!

Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit?:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/did-eve-have-sex-with-the-devil-or-did-she-just-eat-some-fruit-part-1/

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 2:04 AM

I found this conclusion before I saw your writings, but thank for confirming my analyses were correct. I have not seen this question in writing elsewhere.

You know, its all right to know a man is right, but its also ok to see he is not completely alone about it.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 10:59 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Elijah thought he was alone until The Yahavah told him that He had 7,000 who had not bent their knees to Baal.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 8:39 PM

LOL…………..great. I am really in love with this Yahavah.

He also leaves written up and down the pages in the Scriptures how much he appreciate justice. “He was a man of justice….”!

Plus if we have humour down here you should notice he is even a bigger and finer humorist than we are or can be both in the Scriptures but also in real time down here.

I know people find religion boring because when you have discovered 2+2=4 its over. Its because they dont know the travel toward the divine is the most exciting and interesting and intelligent travel of them all. See you.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 10:27 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The Yahavah is The Lord.

Humour, in the form of sarcasm, appears at least twice, the first time when Yashua Messiah was mocking the Pharisee Dews, when He said “The ‘healthy’ have no need of The Physician”, and James when mocked religion.

Religion is boring and evil – 100%. That’s why Yah has no religion.

The Vile Satanic Curse Of Religion:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2021/10/20/the-vile-satanic-curse-of-religion/

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 30, 2025 5:44 PM

Yes. (I still use the old forms here religion because people go berserk if I introduce new concepts as you) But yes I should have written ‘organised religion’.
In this context ‘people’ of course are so right.  💪 

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 6:49 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Where is ‘here’?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 30, 2025 8:17 PM

The countries where I come, Europe and Latin most.

I had a talk with JW some years ago.
Their ritual of bapticize is to declare that you are now a faithful member of JW in Christ’s name.
I didnt examine it further but we had the discussion where I said the way is directly from us each to God, but in Christ’s name, why the organisation can only be 2’nd and must be sidelined.
There must not be anything between oneself and God but Christ.
But they have their rituals from the organisation, and I couldnt get further with them.
We are still friends and I respect the work that many do
within religion, and only demand this separation:
One earthly relation with the church, and a separate personal direct relation with God (cosmos), (not through any “organisation”).
I already showed you and them Russel’s little advise time ago which in my opinion is the correct form.
But they and many other people are not prepared to stay alone away from the group think.

We should be relaxed toward each other as long as people do try. We each have our level to grow from.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 30, 2025 8:41 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Somewhat charitable towards incorrigible JW grifters (with their interminable wayward theology) but otherwise take the basic drift.

Always worth talking to the terminally morally impaired, despite their obvious faults…

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 8:57 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Unfortunately, their baptism is meaningless, due to fact that they deny Yashua Messiah as Yah, and until they repent of this wickedness outer darkness awaits them in the resurrection.

If you profess to be a Christian you should not accept them into your home, or in anyway tolerate them, and you should correct them accordingly with a rebuke.

Yah is a jealous Yah, and nothing angers Him more that insults to His Son. This is a serious warning, so take heed.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 12:31 PM

Yah is a jealous Yah, and nothing angers Him more that insults to His Son.

1/Jealous

AI overview:

An omniscient God can be jealous because this type of jealousy is not the same as human envy but rather a righteous, protective zeal for what rightfully belongs to Him, namely exclusive worship and devotion.

AI overview:

righteous

“Righteous” means morally right

AI overview

A megalomaniac is someone with an excessive belief in their own superiority and a desire for power

So, assuming, magically (spoiler, see later), that free will applies, God and the created can say whatever they like.

God can say it is morally correct for the created to provide IT exclusive worship and devotion. The created can say the creator is morally wrong and call IT a megalomaniac that is extremely clever but to stop bragging about it.

In other words, morality is a belief system it is not an absolute, it is not a truth simply because the creator says so.

2/Anger

AI overview:

Theological perspectives suggest an omniscient God can be angered by a creation because anger is a reaction to a choice made by that creation, not a result of surprise.

However, an omniscient IT has always known the “choice” that was made so IT has always been angry with the created, presumably even prior creation.

If the “choice” was a certain outcome then, in reality, the “choice” was never a valid decision point and creation is deterministic.

The AI overview becomes similarly invalid by including that a “choice” was possible by the creation at all.

Ephesians 1:4

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

In summary,

for Yah (or YHWH or whatever TF ITs called now) to mention that it has anger towards ITs creation due to decisions is evidence that IT is a liar.

Conclusion:

Taken together, an entirely valid opinion of the created is that IT is a megalomaniac and a truth, assuming omniscience, is that IT is a liar.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 12:50 PM
Reply to  Lu1

AI??? and who feeds AI? Spiritually dead, walking, talking, corpse numbskulls like you.

“Must try harder” read the school report LOL

lu1
lu1
Nov 2, 2025 3:14 PM

AI??? and who feeds AI?

You mustn’t have read the comment bit where I pointed out that AI provides nearly as much B/S as yourself.

Dickhead.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 3:33 PM
Reply to  lu1

As I said, because it’s fed by know-nothing numbskulls like you.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 8:44 PM

“As I said, because it’s fed by know-nothing numbskulls like you.”

Feeding it by informing it that it is providing B/S.

Only in the upside down under.

You need more help than is available.

Definite DNR material.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 4, 2025 9:19 PM

In my opinion you confuse the whole thing like the Trinity do, like the Muslims do.

Trinity is God, Holy Spirit, Christ = 3 labels, is One. Saying God transformed himself into Christ, walked down here as little ordinary man ‘without sin’, let himself be tortured and crucified….’because God loved us SO much???
How can anyone believe this bs?

Muslims bow and worship toward a black “Holy” cube, an idol, while showing heaven where God live, their butt and only their butt.
Why cant they see this is a little too weird?

You say Messiah is Yah, meaning the Son = Father, and this Father dont like insults on his Son who is himself, and this God Father says WE which means I and my Son who you claim is One.
And you cant see this is confusion semantic gramma spaghetti?

No! God is God, Messiah is one of God’s special favourite Angel (we have Michael the Arch Angel too as another example), and the Holy Spirit is God’s divine spirit (power). This makes rational sense!
“The Holy Spirit came over her and she got pregnant” (Maria).

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 5, 2025 11:41 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

That’s the problem = your opinion, which 100% erroneous.

Proverbs 3:5 (MCV) Trust in The Yahavah with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding (opinions).

Only The Father knows when Yashua Messiah will return to this earth, Yashua Messiah does not know, which proves they are Two Distinct Beings.

Matthew 24:36 (MCV) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

John 5:37 (MCV) And The Father Himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. YE HAVE NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME, NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE.

This means that Yashua Messiah was The Yah of the Old Testament who spoke to Abraham and Moses.

“No! God is God, Messiah is one of God’s special favourite Angel (we have Michael the Arch Angel too as another example), and the Holy Spirit is God’s divine spirit (power). This makes rational sense!

“The Holy Spirit came over her and she got pregnant” (Maria).”

Then the Holy Spirit is Yashua Messiah’s father, and not The Father = just chucking you bogus trinity logic back at you.

The Elohim is PLURAL = MORE THAN ONE.
Eloah or Eloha is the SINGULAR word and is not used.

Genesis 1:1 (MCV) In the beginning Yah (Elohim = plural) created the heaven and the earth.

God – H430
‘e?lo^hi^ym
el-o-heem’
Plural of H433 Eloah

The Satanic Curse of Monotheism – Is Yah ONE? – Part 1:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2021/08/06/the-satanic-curse-of-monotheism-is-god-one/

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 28, 2025 8:23 PM
Reply to  les online

That, right there, is why I’m not a follower. On the other hand, the Buddha, advised that we should all question everything, including his words of wisdom, and test all information against our own experience (or research) in life. Blind faith and obedience is what has gotten humankind into the messes we have always been and are in today.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 28, 2025 9:59 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

It’s not your decision to be a follower of Yashua Messiah, or to not be a follower of Yashua Messiah. If the Father calls you, that’s it, no arguments!

John 6:44 (MCV) NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw or drag him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 2:19 AM

“You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you.”. (to the Epistles).

We pray to God through Christ because he gave his life for ours. Therefore man can only approach God through Christ’s name. In Christ’s name, Amen.

What Christ means by your described, is that we should be sincere worshippers of God by our hearts (sent/dragged/called), to be heard in a prayer.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 29, 2025 11:17 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

We pray to Yah The Father DIRECTLY, because Yashua Messiah’s death and resurrection gave us direct access to The Father = symbolised by the Veil in The Temple being rent in two, and giving access to, all who believe, the Holy of Holies.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 29, 2025 9:01 PM

Yes! Hebrews says that we come in Christ’s blood.

But the new veil is not the Temple which was destroyed. The new veil is Christ’s blood/sacrifice.
So, it is through the death of Jesus whom we have access to God, and praying in Jesus name is a theological shorthand for expressing that.

That we have no righteousness of our own directly access, but that God will receive us when we recognize and via the blood of Christ (sacrifice).

(We are almost there  🙂  .)

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 10:45 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

He became The High Priest through His death and resurrection, and blessed us with the same through His blood. We therefore have direct access to The Father.

I did say symbolised!

If we are born of Yah through Baptism (full immersion) into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name alone, and gifted with Set Apart Exclusive Spirit, then we are automatically Justified, and therefore Righteous in The Father’s sight.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 30, 2025 5:39 PM

Bingo. Also what I concluded.
By Christ we are free of the old bonds to Jerusalem, the Temple, Israel, The Dews as God’s selected.
Through Christ’s sacrifice and this ritual, we (everybody except the sad seed) can now reach the holy spirit directly from inside ourselves.
So yes this is direct. I do just always in Prayer add the “In Jesus name, Amen” in respect and honour to this his sacrifice.
Maybe this is not necessary I dont know, but from my side its a legal approach.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 30, 2025 6:46 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Of course, we always pray to The Father in Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 4, 2025 8:21 PM

Then we are aligned 100%. No further questions yr honour.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 11:23 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

By Christ we are free of the old bonds to Jerusalem, the Temple, Israel, The Dews as God’s selected.

Do you mean that you are free from the “wishes” of the omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent God/Christ who pre-selected the “children of Israel” as the selected few.

The question is:

was God lying through its, spiritual, teeth when IT said that the “selected dews” were special.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 3, 2025 12:08 AM
Reply to  Lu1

… was God lying […] that the “selected dews” were special.

Nope, God was not lying. They remain special. Loved on account of the patriarchs (Abraham et al).

Romans 11:28-29
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011:28-29&version=NIV

“28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.”

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 3, 2025 9:30 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Nope, God was not lying. They remain special. Loved on account of the patriarchs (Abraham et al).

Nuttyahoo, doing best to kill as many humans as possible gets a free pass into heaven from the megalomaniacal malevolent depraved a-hole despite:

Exodus 20:13

Thou shalt not kill.

95% of umanity are definitely sick b’stards – you are from the top drawer.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

dews need not apply.

A-hole.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 3, 2025 6:02 PM
Reply to  Lu1

The commandment (at least in the original) is “do not murder” (i.e. unlawful, premeditated killing between citizens), rather than a generic “do not kill”. Otherwise all forms of war would automatically be excluded.

John 3:16 doesn’t preclude God granting eternal life to whomsoever He wishes. Whether to Gentiles for faith in Christ or to ‘Dews’ on account of ancient promises. Such being His privilege to grant as Creator of the Universe.

The noble Netanyahu, wiping out ‘Hamas’ [aka ‘sin’, ‘heat’] in the modern era, as the Great Flood of old wiped out sin (aka ‘hamas’) in more ancient times. Wiping out those descendants of the Amalekites / Philistines, who weren’t fully dealt with by the Israel of old but rather foolishly left as fetuses and 1-day sucklings for wicked mothers to rear up as future enemies of God. Surely deserved of a slot in Heaven?

Genesis 6:11: “Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence (‘hamas’).”

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 3, 2025 6:21 PM
Reply to  Vagabard
Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 3, 2025 7:17 PM

Interesting/thoughtful analysis.

Most ‘insults’ tend to evaporate when you start to examine them etymologically/historically.

‘Goy’ just meaning ‘nation’. Does kinda remove any intended derogatory sense in common usage.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 5, 2025 10:58 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

It only becomes an insult when used by the Dews, who are mostly ignorant about their Canaanite real origins.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 3, 2025 7:22 PM

Sorry, forgot to euphemise the ‘*oy’ word, ergo pending…

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 3, 2025 6:11 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Your education starts here:

“We are a chosen people. Most Dews do not like to admit it but our god is Lucifer and we Dews are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive.”

— The Dew, Harold W. Rosenthal

The Dew’s admitted “Identity Crisis”:

“Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Dew’ or to call a contemporary Dew an ‘Israelite’ or a ‘Hebrew’. The first Hebrews may not have been Dews at all…”

— 1980 Dewish Almanac, p. 3.

I will firm this Truth up by stating that The Hebrews were never Dewish.

British Israel – The True Israelites Are White British, American and North Western Europeans – White Caucasians:
https://odysee.com/@MessengerCharles:e/The-True-Israelites-Are-White-Europeans,-Jews-Admit-It,-Blacks-Deny-and-Hate-It:5

Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit?:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/did-eve-have-sex-with-the-devil-or-did-she-just-eat-some-fruit-part-1/

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 4, 2025 8:51 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Christ liberated the whole Moses shit by his sacrifice.
And important, this was even predicted in the old Moses Testament that this would happen when Messiah arrived.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Oct 30, 2025 8:45 PM

Phew, that lets me off the hook, then.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 31, 2025 9:02 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Indeed, but He will catch up with you in the resurrection. There’s no escaping His Love for us.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 12:33 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

I beleive the wording was « Don’t do anything, even what I tell you to do, if you don’t understand it first »… ironically one of the few things he said that I understood…

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Oct 27, 2025 7:41 PM

Of course, those that profess to be “Christians” have pretty much always supported wars and the killing that comes with them. I remember coming across a book called “Preachers Present Arms- The Role of the American Churches and Clergy in World War I and II with Some Observations on the War in Vietnam”, by Ray Abrams (pub Sep 2009).  Part of it went over how the clergy fell for WWI war hysteria and were instrumental in drumming up support with the public by spreading war lies, fear and propaganda, like Germans beheading babies and shit like that (remember Saddam Hussein and the baby incubators?).  Same thing during WWII and the Vietnam war. 
This cult thing with Trump is taking it all to another level, like with everything else, but the hypocrisy of the so called christians who support him (certainly not ALL those that call themselves Christians) and his Project 2025/technocratic/zionist imperialist war mongering billionaires is off the charts at this point. The funny thing, and it’s really funny, is how anyone could believe that Trump is a Christian in any way, shape or form. Then again, maybe he’s just following his followers.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 27, 2025 7:09 PM

The Whiteheads and with them too many Democrats and Liberals obsession with Trump, and how awful Trump is, because Trump is threatening their fat lazy arses, is so pathetic.

As always when this group can confront themselves nor their own affairs because these are build on fraud and hypocrisy, they go to Christ thinking that he help all hypocrites here on earth. “Christ loves me”.

Yes…..and suddenly one day you woke up with a little red flag in your right hand.  😭  .

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:33 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Dead on Eric! I’m so sick of the Whiteheads demented blathering. The Marxist methodology is so obvious, yet OG and ,any of the usual suspects always take the bait. If and when they wake up one day to a red flag, I hope it’s everything they wished for…

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 27, 2025 5:47 PM

I skipped the article completely when I saw my prime TDS authors names…comments are much better

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 27, 2025 9:10 PM
Reply to  Scoobis

I intend to compartimilize it to respond to their article (this time). I had a few ideas this morning, But after an outstanding day of quality work, I’m having a beer right now, so I’ll see. Keep u posted.

Armando Romani
Armando Romani
Oct 28, 2025 12:10 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

I’m not sure whether this is a conversation between two bots, two sock puppets or one bot and one sock puppet. The one thing I’m sure it isn’t is an organic conversation between two actual OffG readers. Congratulations, you’ve just about accomplished your obvious goal of enshitifying the OffG comments so thoroughly as to make them an unreadable steaming pile of excrement.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 28, 2025 1:56 AM
Reply to  Armando Romani

We are sorry for the inconvienience mr. Demented, or is it misses.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:19 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

I believe it’s Mr. Asshat

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:18 AM
Reply to  Armando Romani

And yet…here you are

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:17 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

You will need many beers if you plan on reading the bloviating shit bag these two losers call newsworthy…

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 28, 2025 2:39 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

Just a few paragraphs to be commented on, enphasize how it’s bullshit, or incomplete and quickly biassed… they have to answer for their lack of logic, lazyness and emotionnal rant… when I think of the way other writers here are slauthered… these two are the worst so at least put their noses in their feceas like bad puppies

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 28, 2025 2:48 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

Yup, fridge is full… I’ll invest a bit of time. I feel they have slightly improved

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2025 10:33 PM
Reply to  Scoobis

Please don’t leave us Scooby, we’ll miss your infantile infatuation with President Narcissis.
You can always give Off G the flick and refer back to your scrap books, posters, videos, and life sized models of President Narcissis.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 27, 2025 11:18 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Is there such a thing as « assisted commenter suicide » ? Let’s find out (I’ve been trying on my own for a while)

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:23 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I’m not going anywhere Johnny boy, old sock. I ‘m on a mission to help you find the true source of your obvious TDS. It runs deep Johnny old kid, but we will dig it out

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 28, 2025 2:50 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

I get emotionnal when you two patch things up 🥹

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 11:29 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

LOL…!!!

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 28, 2025 9:32 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

A mission hey?
Impossible.

President Narcissus is not just a pain in the arse.
He’s a pane of glass.
Anyone with a gram of common sense can see straight through him.

President Haemorrhoid? Now THAT’S got potential.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 11:30 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Sigh….oh Jonny, so many problems, so little medication

Big Al
Big Al
Oct 28, 2025 3:32 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

So basically, since you’re such an ardent defender of Trump against the dreaded “derangement syndrome”, you must also directly or indirectly support the corrupt oligarchy controlled republican party, the zionist billionaires behind him as well as his BFF Nutandyahoo, the technocratic billionaires behind him who want to control the fucking world, other right wing billionaires intent on establishing a completely servile population, and the Project 2025 assholes, all of whom dictate almost everything he does or says thru their complete control of his narcissistic ass. It’s kind of strange that you come to what is considered an “anti-establishment” hangout. Unless it’s just to troll, I don’t know. What about Trump is anti-establishment?

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 11:32 PM
Reply to  Big Al

I suppose I should just go away and leave you twats to your delusional echo chamber…but, alas, I just can’t do it

Big Al
Big Al
Oct 29, 2025 2:19 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

So you are just trolling Whatever floats your boat. But your support for those motherfuckers is telling. Talk about twats.

Mark41
Mark41
Oct 28, 2025 6:36 PM
Reply to  Scoobis

I’m do the same with these authors. It’s entertaining just to evaluate the green agree thumbs and the red disagree thumbs. The ant-Trump red group seems to be the same if anything, anything at all is written positive about Trump. They must have nightmares at night.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 11:33 PM
Reply to  Mark41

They are delusional fuckheads and I enjoy pointing it out…

Big Al
Big Al
Oct 29, 2025 2:20 AM
Reply to  Scoobis

Says the supporter of the billionaires behind Trump. That’s delusional, man. Own it.

Hail
Hail
Oct 27, 2025 5:35 PM

It’s always the WORST people that are the most devout Christians.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 27, 2025 9:04 PM
Reply to  Hail

All right, as a pragmatic high IQ atheist, I wanna say: where do you get the hysterical idea that it is ALWAYS Christians that are the worst people?

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 28, 2025 1:18 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

If you travel enough, you’ll find it

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 12:37 PM

In time

landy
landy
Oct 28, 2025 8:33 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

where do you get the hysterical idea that it is ALWAYS Christians that are the worst people?

You cant be that silly Theobalt (erik no2 / ed 1)?

How about all the wars they started, countries they invaded, and people they killed who did not convert?
The Middle East now is about what exactly ?

What about wanting an end time to justify the 2nd coming and the lengths that are willing to do to achieve this?

You religion folks turn a blind eye to your own sickness and enable this hell on earth you have tried to create for others who don’t believe what you believe.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 4:52 AM
Reply to  landy

You don’t seem familiar with my work

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 5:01 AM
Reply to  landy

There can’t be an Erik 2, that fucker’s unique

Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 27, 2025 9:55 PM
Reply to  Hail

Hmm, does this mean Mother Teresa who fed the homeless and looked after the poor on the streets of Calcutta aka Mumbai fitted your view !

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Oct 28, 2025 6:43 PM
Reply to  Hail

Of course! Paul was a cold blooded murderer of Christians – an assassin, before he was called by Yashua Messiah on the road to Damascus.

However, what is your definition of a Christian?

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 10:11 AM

I can help out. It’d be the same as that for a Hindu or Buddhist:

Definition of a Hindu, Buddhist and Christian

A person who is gullible, guilty, self-centred and stupid

Short version:

a fukken a-hole.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 11:39 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Christianity is not a religion! You’re comparing gold or diamonds with pig sh*t. This is how uneducated you are.

As I said earlier – you’re out of your depth.

lu1
lu1
Nov 2, 2025 3:18 PM

Christianity is not a religion!

In your twisted childish opinion, in my opinion.

You have been reading too many fairy tales and watching too much Harry Potter.

Messenger Charles
Messenger Charles
Nov 2, 2025 3:36 PM
Reply to  lu1

The Truth is never an opinion.

The Vile Satanic Curse Of Religion:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2021/10/20/the-vile-satanic-curse-of-religion/

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 2, 2025 10:26 PM

Um:

In this first offering we get an inkling of what RELIGION really is, that is, ‘a straitest sect’, as Paul accurately calls it, so from this we can immediately deduce that this is a very legalistic set up, and, of course, we already know that, because we know that The Serpent Seed Pharisee Jews were satanic Judaisers and very ritualistic. This means they dotted every ‘i’ and crossed every ‘t’ of The Mosaic Law in an attempt to pathetically save themselves. This, in turn, resulted in Yashua Messiah mocking them with the remark: “The ‘healthy’ have no need of The Physician!”

Jaysus, just like an omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent IT would get up.

Turns out IT is a pathetic mocking big dick.

You are definitely DNR.

Please, for your own sake, sign yourself in.

Hail
Hail
Oct 27, 2025 5:33 PM

That’s impossible for the “christians” they have to tell you about their imaginary friend.
And their “death cult” as “cHrIsTiAnIty”.

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Brianborou
Brianborou
Oct 27, 2025 8:12 PM
Reply to  Hail
Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 27, 2025 9:05 PM
Reply to  Hail

Well please follow your own advise, you narrow minded enforcer you

tafeex
tafeex
Oct 27, 2025 5:28 PM

If you’re talking about the pro genocide pro war pro killing that is Christianity and towleds and sqaretops, that’s satanism.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 27, 2025 4:01 PM

Who Would Jesus B__b?

Good question, but not an easy one to answer.

For the first 300 years or so after Christ, Christendom was the persecuted group. Yet it wielded no sword in response to its attackers.

The big change coming when the Roman State adopted Christianity as it its religion.under Constantine the Great. Which initially seems good. The State now as defender rather than as enemy. Constantine marching into battle to conquer under the Chi-Rho symbol.

Yet that also opened the doors to physical wars over minor differences of opinion over grey areas of theology. The legacy of which is wars with other lands today – even Christian lands..

I suppose it comes down to the role of the ‘State’ (from a theological perspective). Whether a State should wield a sword at all, or not. And/or whether a State is allowed to act in a way differently to a citizen of a nation.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 27, 2025 7:15 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Good bet. Would only add that the world is not just black and white, and further that life changes and moves every fokking day.
The persecution is still going on today in various forms. Here in Egypt:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maspero-a-massacre-of-christians-in-egypt/ .

John
John
Oct 27, 2025 3:49 PM

The real answer is nobody.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 27, 2025 7:18 PM
Reply to  John

An answer is an answer. What is ‘my real answer is….’ supposed to mean?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Oct 29, 2025 5:04 AM
Reply to  John

He didn’t know OG comments section yet

J. Dena
J. Dena
Oct 27, 2025 3:35 PM

Revelation 13 :11. And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon… A beast in prophecy is symbolic of a Nation. Beast out of the sea, the Vatican /Antichrist. Beast out of the earth U.S. / apostate protestantism, the false prophet…

antonym
antonym
Oct 27, 2025 2:31 PM

What is worse—far worse—than the Christian right selling its spiritual birthright for a political seat at Trump’s table is the blasphemy that has followed: the Gospel of Jesus replaced by the Gospel of the Military-Industrial Complex.

The Roman – Catholics. Remember the Crusades?

This is what Islam has done for a long time. Ok they were desert warlords from 661.

That is what the atheist CCP did with it own private army, the PLA and its internal MMS. Egoistic warlords from 1921.

Imperialists, the lot of them.

lucerbear
lucerbear
Oct 27, 2025 5:11 PM
Reply to  antonym

What is worse—far worse—than the Christian right selling its spiritual birthright for a political seat at Trump’s table ?
Not good.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 27, 2025 11:55 PM
Reply to  antonym

Same old, same old ‘enemy’ bashing.

What the Muslim and the CCP hierarchies do, or have done, is irrelevant to us Antonym, because we don’t live there.

Gotta clean up our own backyards first.

antonym
antonym
Oct 28, 2025 1:04 AM
Reply to  Johnny

What, no Muslims or Chine$e in your Australian backyard?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Oct 28, 2025 2:53 AM
Reply to  antonym

The big seas between. Let us give them that.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 28, 2025 9:38 AM
Reply to  antonym

Plenty, but all the mass shootings and the vast majority of violent acts here were carried out by white, testosterone and hate fuelled Aussies.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Oct 28, 2025 2:25 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Well, finally admitting to Trump’s success. Its a first step Johnny.