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WATCH: The Technocratic Dark State

David Hughes interviews Iain Davis about his new book.

From Iain’s website:

I was delighted that Dr David A. Hughes asked me to join him to discuss my forthcoming book The Technocratic Dark State.

You can read John Titus full review of the book HERE.

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Munk
Munk
Nov 28, 2025 10:48 AM

An excellent interview. It is worth pointing out that the technocratic dark state that Iain illustrates, is a regression to a period in history when American robber barons would “pay” their “employees” in “company script” – tokens which could only be redeemed at the “company store”. This period of time in American history was further characterized by an exploitative immigration policy which undermined any semblance of labor rights, and advanced state-sanctioned – and direct state-military – violence visited upon the participants of labor strikes.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 26, 2025 8:46 AM

Another dimension of the central conflict.

https://x.com/StateDept/status/1991869227758920010
Nov 21, 2025

Mass migration poses an existential threat to Western civilization and undermines the stability of key American allies. Today the State Department instructed U.S. embassies to report on the human rights implications and public safety impacts of mass migration.

U.S. officials will now scrutinize policies in Western nations that give leniency to migrant crime and human rights abuses or that create two-tiered systems that prioritize migrants at the expense of their own citizens.

The United States supports the sovereignty of our allies and calls on governments to constructively engage with the growing numbers of citizens concerned about mass migration. The United States stands ready to assist our allies in solving the global crisis of mass migration.

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/us/donald-trump-keir-starmer-mass-migration-rape-gangs
Donald Trump urges Keir Starmer to ‘protect Britons from mass migration’ as US issues rape gangs warning
By Steven Edginton
Published: 21/11/2025
Donald Trump’s administration will urge Sir Keir Starmer to address Britain’s mass migration crisis, GB News can exclusively reveal.
An official American communique, seen by The People’s Channel, will be issued to governments across Europe and the West, stating: “We encourage your government to ensure that policies protect your citizens from the negative social impacts of mass migration, including displacement, sexual assault, and the breakdown of law and order.”
The US State Department issued the memo to American Embassies in Europe, including Britain, telling officials to “urge governments to positively respond to their citizens’ growing discontent related to unmitigated migration”.
The memo also cited “organised rape gangs in the United Kingdom” as an example of how mass migration has damaged European nations.
Responding to the bombshell document, ex-Home Secretary Suella Braverman told GB News:

“It speaks volumes when Washington has to remind our own government of its basic duty to protect the British public. Trump is right to call out Starmer’s disastrous record on mass migration.”
“Britain must follow our US allies with unapologetically firm border control: decisive deportations for anyone who has no legal right to be here, a zero-tolerance approach to foreign nationals who break our laws, and a system that finally puts British people first.”
“Until more people are leaving than arriving, we cannot pretend our borders are secure.”

judith
judith
Nov 26, 2025 12:04 PM

Yes, get rid of all the migrants and leave murder and upheavel to your own government officials.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 26, 2025 12:29 PM
Reply to  judith

Yes, get rid of all the migrants and leave murder and upheavel to your own government officials.

Along with numerous other strategies, the mass migration is an intentional act of murder and upheaval carried out BY our own governments. If Trump can ALSO get rid of our government, that would be a bonus.

Robert Merrill
Robert Merrill
Nov 25, 2025 9:27 PM

Thanks for posting this interview. It is excellent.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 25, 2025 7:52 AM

The central conflict driving the events of the last few decades is the dollar-denominated debt-based monetary system, collapsing under the weight of explosive debt levels.

No it isn’t. Rather, the conflict is rooted in the Kissingerite agenda to destroy Pax Americana and Israel. And it arises from the Christian Zionists and the Atlanticists having other ideas.

Stitch that, Henry!
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juleietbrovo
juleietbrovo
Nov 24, 2025 4:09 PM

In 2025 many still believe Trump is there man and kicking the deep state ass.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 7:22 PM
Reply to  juleietbrovo

I regret to say it, but It is much more complicated than that.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 25, 2025 12:27 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Please enlighten us with your pearls of wisdom, and inside info Erik.

daz
daz
Nov 25, 2025 12:35 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

no it’s not, he’s full yin the club and still fooling so many that he’s on their side. he’s not, he’s a paedo digitial gulag enabler working for the banksters.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 25, 2025 12:00 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

No Trump is not fully in the club. He has said from the start the Ukraine war should never have been started.

Its was you stupid Liberal guys in Europe and the Liberals/Dews in US Obama, Biden, Nuland, Kagan, m.m., who started a dangerous and costly war against an opponent 20x stronger.
Proof: https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Trump-Warns-Zelensky-Against-A-War-You-Cant-Win-as-West-Continues-Heavy-Support/

Aloysius
Aloysius
Nov 25, 2025 9:02 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Chump.

Marb
Marb
Nov 25, 2025 2:34 AM
Reply to  juleietbrovo

Trump is a puppet , everyone knows He was on the lolita express ,Epstein’s Island .. Numerous Women have claimed that he raped and Molested them .. are they all democratic party Shills?… Trumped Fucked underage girls and may well be being Blackmailed by the Bankers and other private interests who own and operate the “Swamp”…. Trump rolled out the Accelerated Jabs which have killed and injured millions of credulous unthinking People ,including Children and Babies… Trump is enabling the funding of bloody sacrificial wars and the grotesque Genocide , Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza.. What more does any Sane moderately ethical decent Person need ?.. Does that absolve Democratic Party Criminals from their crimes .. Hell No

Marb
Marb
Nov 25, 2025 2:57 AM
Reply to  Marb

PS and Many People Juliet have their heads up the MSMS arses 24 7.. in this case Fox … yeah i know they all pretend to loathe trump .. reverse psych strategy that works every time .. the supposedly hostile MSM have built Trumps base .. everyone loathes the MSM ,,, theres the Rub!

Robert Merrill
Robert Merrill
Nov 25, 2025 9:34 PM
Reply to  Marb

You need to be more specific. Trump is a puppet of whom? Do we know that? I think we do. It is Netanyahu. I think the evidence that Trump had sex with the teenage girls Epstein provided to very many oligarchs in the US and around the world is kind of weak and sketchy. He may have but it isn’t all that clear yet. It is clear, however, that Epstein recruited him as an Israeli “asset.” Netanyahu made a list of “reliable American billionaires” in 2007 for his campaign for PM. Trump was on that list. The Adelsons were there. Carl Ichan, Paul Singer, Rupert Murdoch, and more. So by 2007, Trump was a puppet of the Israeli government or intelligence.

Marb
Marb
Nov 26, 2025 11:23 AM
Reply to  Robert Merrill

How about the Banking Cartel which largely funded the creation of the state of Israel in 1948 .. sure Trump is in thrall to the Israeli deepstate and to his wealthy Israeli,American donors , as Whitney Webb and others have pointed out Epstein and Maxwell were running a Honeypot Operation on behalf of Mossad and probably CIA .. they have the goods on Trump , and in my view most probably almost every globalist politician that is part of their Bankster spawned Cabal ..

Elections are Brainwashing rituals for the Plebs …Trump was selected , i believe to Split the Right Wing Populist movement , who it seems have largely woken up to the fact that almost everything that we know as “News” and mainstream “History ” is either a gross distortion or outright lies… the Banking interests and MIC people who are their servants , along with globalist intel Agencies run the Think Tanks ( secret societies ) that make all the major decisions , regarding Geopolitical Agendas , Finance, Wars .. and Selection of Global Puppets.

This Financial Cabal if You will , installed Obama because they needed to split the Antiwar Left , Turbo Charge the Trans Agenda, and discredit / cut ties with the old school left ie the Trade Unions , the Catholic Workers Party , the Anti Woke Libertarian Left…. Obama successfully did his job and was amply rewarded !..

Just like Donald Trump is doing his .. ie Spliting the Maga movement , and ignoring , degrading the US constitution , which at present is a stumbling block to Global Governance .. ( see John and Nisha Whiteheads article above)

Marb
Marb
Nov 26, 2025 11:47 AM
Reply to  Marb

Ps another of Obamas tasks was to expand Africom , and destroy Libya ..who were about to kick out French and British telco’s and launch Africas own satellite, Muamar Gaddaffi was also ( as head of the African Union) going to launch an African currency in the form of a Gold Dinar… which would have more or less quashed many Western Corporate Cartels exploitative activities …the transnational Criminal Cartel .. is Murderous .. they will kill , smear or buy anyone … Witness the signals emanating from people like Majorie Taylor Green a true Maga believer who .. was about to be cancelled …

Marb
Marb
Nov 26, 2025 11:49 AM
Reply to  Marb

But she quit just in time , Im not suggesting they were going to kill her but who knows?

Marb
Marb
Nov 24, 2025 8:54 AM

Thank You for Highlighting this .. Many thanks to Iain for his invaluable work! its hugely inspiring !

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 24, 2025 5:04 AM

An extraordinary briefing for you re: the peace plan & leaked details on Ukraine/Russia war, it’s effect on European finances, etc.
https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/special-k-breakfast

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 7:18 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Thanks Penelope, interesting:
..As I say, Trump’s Plan is as much a preparation for -regime change across Europe, for the ousting of the war mongers in power hereas it is for a cease-fire and outbreak of peace between Russia and Ukraine. These issues are directly interlinked.

Contained within this plan are particular insulting-threats to European finance, which is very stressed already and really needs to confiscate $140 billion in russian assets somehow, in order to remain solvent.
In my estimation, this threat to European and London banking is the coredriver of war. They need emergency war powers in the next crisis.

The war in Ukraine is to loot Russia for the frozen $140 billion and give them to the City of London.
On this basis European Leaders tried to pursuade Trump to deliver the usual US bullies and war eqm, but when he refused these EU Leaders will now ask EU’s young men AGAIN to march against Moscow to be able to get their hands on the $ 140 billion.  🖕 

The painting gets clearer and clearer.

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 25, 2025 8:23 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The painting gets clearer and clearer.

Penelope believes that SARS-CoV-2 was a “real” virus and the the cause of a “real” disease called covid.

Like you, that moniker is a fukken a-hole.

brianborou
brianborou
Nov 26, 2025 9:38 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Here is Penelope’s link, Special K Breakfast – by John Day MD – Dr. John’s Blog, which Erik directly commented on.

However, you refused to comment directly on it.

In this aspect, it was a wise decision since it would undoubtedly expose your inherent lack of knowledge on this subject as well !

antonym
antonym
Nov 24, 2025 1:43 AM

Why is Donald Trump on this cover? He is THE whale against the dark Kraken swamp squid gripping the west Atlantic coast presently. He is not a technocrat: Gates fits this bill and these pockets much better, plus Bezos and Soros. Clickbait for the wokerati?? Will work, they have been in a blind feeding frenzy like a school of barracudas.
Trump put Tulsi Gabbard as head of the DNI while Obommer had James Clap there for 6 years. Yes Thiel is weird but Trump fell out with Musk.

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 24, 2025 4:05 AM
Reply to  antonym

Are you kidding? The dude is aiding and abetting the technocrats like there’s no tomorrow, and supports every fucking thing they’re trying to do. Try listening to the video, that’s why he’s on the cover. And Tulsi “Council on Foreign Relations” Gabbard the Chameleon is a lying narcissistic witch who likes to hear herself talk. She’s got establishment written all over her face.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 24, 2025 4:25 AM
Reply to  antonym

Why is Donald Trump on this cover?

Because . . .

Sal P
Sal P
Nov 24, 2025 5:18 AM
Reply to  antonym

If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 24, 2025 9:00 AM
Reply to  antonym

Moby Trump? Or is it Dick?
Same difference.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 12:32 PM
Reply to  antonym

My guess is that Ian approved Trump on the front page to get attention, readers and a hate object for the masses.

This is an quite normal Leftist psychological concept, that because they are the goody goody people, they are allowed to do a little dirty trick to get the whole goody whopper down people’s throat.

In this case here I would forgive Ian Davis for doing it, but for right and fact thinkers it is a little spot, on an else good case and probably also a good book.

Like you I see also the cases where Trump went against the Big Tech Investor Group.
So Ian is probably right that they back Trump financially, but other people backed Trump too for other reasons, for example to get rid of the Liberals.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Nov 24, 2025 4:00 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

That is partly true. Had we put Thiel, Andreessen or Musk on the cover how many people would recognise that figure? Probably many would have recognised Musk, I guess. But Trump is instantly recognisable so, of course, there was a marketing consideration. That said, the Trump administration’s rollout of technocracy is a central theme in the book. So putting Trump on the cover is, in no sense, disingenuous.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 6:41 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

You are right but as I mentioned Trump is a minor thing in the big picture.

I saw a Senate hearing with RFK Jr where corrupt Senators was smearing RFK down openly in an really disgusting manner, and more.
Maybe the ok things the Trump adm also has done is only windows dressing before the big bank robbery, I dont know.

Anyway, thanks for your great effort as another brick in our sad wall.
I hope you have seen brian’s link downstairs also telling an overall story about who is behind and who is only actors and insignificant front figures.
We must win this one!
https://www.bluemoonofshanghai.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/The-Richest-Man-in-the-World-for-e-book.pdf

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 25, 2025 8:49 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

We must win this one!

But lose the one where your favourite psycho deity condemns most of ITs robotic creation to hell forever.

Jaysus, the purveyor of false hope all but for the “Creators predestined elect”:

Romans 8:30

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

A-hole.

brianborou
brianborou
Nov 26, 2025 10:19 AM
Reply to  Lu1

The purpose of Ian Davis’s article is to examine his forthcoming book

The Technocratic Dark State.

Many of the posters on this thread have attempted to address this question without digressing into other spheres.

Now, if have anything to contribute to the discussion about Ian’s article by sticking to the subject matter, please do so !

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 25, 2025 8:40 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

My guess

Forget your guess – you don’t even understand your own Bible:

https://off-guardian.org/2025/11/23/mechanical-mikey-and-the-theater-of-war/#comment-742846

I cant comment on that verse. A little too spiritual for my level.

i.e. any B/S will do, 100% NPC / BIOS Bot or gullible, guilty, self-centred, stupid a-hole.

Can’t, currently, think of a meaningful difference (simulation or Biological BIOS Bot).

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Nov 24, 2025 3:54 PM
Reply to  antonym

Because the people who are rolling out the Technocratic Dark State put Trump in office in order for him to serve their agenda. Just look at his Executive Orders. Nearly all of them serve the interests of this group. Trump is their guy and they’ve captured the US administration almost completely.

antonym
antonym
Nov 25, 2025 9:07 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Oh, for the good ol’ days of Bidet & Obommer, or CIA Bush.

antonym
antonym
Nov 25, 2025 9:13 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

At least Trump is a good disturber of the WEF’s Atlantic plan. Putin is doing fine with Modi and even Xi Jinping is messing up the WEF’s Chinese porcelain cupboard nicely…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 25, 2025 11:53 AM
Reply to  antonym

To support your claim we here have a reliable link documentation of who is a warmonger and who is not:
Europe is 3/4 funding the Ukraine war and US only 1/4.
https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Trump-Warns-Zelensky-Against-A-War-You-Cant-Win-as-West-Continues-Heavy-Support/

Lu1
Lu1
Nov 25, 2025 9:08 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

To support your claim we here have a reliable link documentation of who is a warmonger and who is not:

Europe is 3/4 funding the Ukraine war and US only 1/4.

Holy fukken Krist, the definition of not supporting a war has now become a glamour model % of those supporting a war.

Erik, as you are CIA/FSB/MSS Global Mafia bot don’t worry, i’ll keep tellin you why you are an a-hole (until I can’t).

The only reason why this might make you “angry” is that I, nearly unbelievably, find your algorithm funny.

In the interim, thanks for the ride.

You are, nearly, the perfect a-hole.

brianborou
brianborou
Nov 26, 2025 9:54 AM
Reply to  Lu1

Here are some details from Erik’s link

According to multiple sources:

  • The U.S. has committed approximately US $128 billion in direct aid to Ukraine, according to the Kiel Institute.
  • From February 2022 to June 2025, the U.S. committed €114.64 billion (about US $134 billion) in total support.
  • The U.S. has provided US $66.9 billion in military assistance alone since Russia’s full-scale invasion.
  • The European Union and its 27 Member States have provided nearly US $197 billion in financial, military, humanitarian and refugee assistance.

These figures underscore the massive scale of Western support to Kyiv — even as debates continue over the future of aid deliveries.

Now by analysis, it can be clearly viewed that the EU has contributed the Lions share of money, weapons etc to the Kiev Nazi regime. Therefore by definition, the most ardent supporters, at this point in time, are the majority members of the EU.

So the question, which you are not addressing, ad hominem and vacuous rhetoric does not count, is do you agree/ disagree with these points providing evidence to support your view either way.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Nov 25, 2025 9:04 PM
Reply to  antonym

He is owned lockstockbarrel by elephants.

les online
les online
Nov 24, 2025 12:13 AM

The Chinese have learned to love Big Brother, no doubt you will too.
According to research Australia scores only 49% on a social trust scale,
much lower than China… In China ‘[…..] people’s trust and satisfaction
of the central government is consistently over 90% [….].’
‘Trust is the glue that binds society together. It binds communities,
shapes institutions, and fuel’s economic activities.’
China has been virtually cashless from the early 2010s’. ‘Violent crimes
are virtually non-existent’, and there’s the Chinese Social Credit System…
So What’s not to like about Social credit ?
…….
https://huabinoliver.substack.com/p/chinas-rebound-in-societal-trust

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 6:27 PM
Reply to  les online

The Chinese have learned to love propaganda.
Totalitarian States always have 100% backing and Kim Il Sung North Korea always receive 100% of the democratic votes.

Here is a hard core militant female band from North Korea praising Kim and a new missile:
https://ok.ru/video/7965867838141 .

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 24, 2025 9:33 PM
Reply to  les online

The “trust” the Chinese report towards their government is entirely coerced. The trust they have towards each other ranks near zero! Trust between we the people is what holds the glue of civility together. The other variant is fear which slowly erodes everything worth living for.

Read the excellent and approachable book by Kai Strittmatter: We have been harmonised – Life in China’s Surveillance State to get an insider’s view of Chinese society.

I truly hope we are not heading towards this kind of society.

les online
les online
Nov 24, 2025 9:48 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

I walk among the frightened every day. They are not conscious
of their fear, it is structures their behaviour. So too is the decline
of trust… Fear is also a glue that holds society together (Malthus).
Anxiety, too, is structured in their behaviour…
We may oppose the total surveillance-social credit society but
my money is on the masses opting for security over freedom…

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 25, 2025 9:39 PM
Reply to  les online

I agree. Except there’s a difference between society’s glue and the glue that hold civility between the people together.

qwerty
qwerty
Nov 27, 2025 10:11 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Life in China’s Surveillance State – TECHNOLOGY- enabled repression is a ‘human right’. Under it, doublethink and doublespeak provide the illusion of Freedom and Harmony.

Well said Veri Tas!
https://www.amazon.com/We-Have-Been-Harmonized-Surveillance/dp/0063027291

Must say tho’, Iain Davis’ The Technocratic Dark State will speak more directly to more Americans than Kai Strittmatter’s excellent book ever could!

judith
judith
Nov 25, 2025 12:49 PM
Reply to  les online

From what I understand, Sweden has also been pretty much cashless for years.

qwerty
qwerty
Nov 27, 2025 2:44 PM
Reply to  judith

FWIW – cash usage has drastically declined in Sweden, with only about 5% of transactions involving cash in Sweden today.

les online
les online
Nov 23, 2025 11:31 PM

There’s a global war going on, between ‘Freedom’ and ‘Security’.
Which side are you on ?

underground poet
underground poet
Nov 23, 2025 11:57 PM
Reply to  les online

Fully understanding the word, “global”, their is a hint of disaster here.

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 24, 2025 4:07 AM
Reply to  les online

Is that like the one with Cheech and Chong, “what is your name, Bob?!” Um, I know that one, man. Give me a minute.

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 24, 2025 5:06 AM
Reply to  les online

No, it’s between freedom and death for most of humanity.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 12:35 PM
Reply to  les online

I am with Trump on the freedom side.  😃  .

brianborou
brianborou
Nov 23, 2025 10:19 PM

From the John Titus full review of the book

” For the life of me, I can’t understand how they got to where they are or amassed the wealth they are advertised to have—unless it’s as frontmen putting on one big act. ”

The-Richest-Man-in-the-World-for-e-book.pdf

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 24, 2025 5:14 AM
Reply to  brianborou

When Einstein was asked whether gravity or electromagnetism were the stronger force he answered, “Interest.”
When you couple interest with theft and increasing control of governmental power, the result is monopoly– of money & power.

les online
les online
Nov 24, 2025 9:05 AM
Reply to  Penelope

“In-ter—est—ing !!”

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 24, 2025 6:18 PM
Reply to  brianborou

Solutions brian, solutions?
With trillions and 13 rich families in their Global Board we need supporters!
Someone who would vote for us and give us the majority in the parliament to do something about it!
Now, and not ‘lets first wait and see’.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 24, 2025 6:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Solutions will only come when enough people have their backs against the wall and return to God ie the refusal of the working class in the U.K. to return to the status quo after WW2, the refusal of many people to be herded like cattle during the Scamdemic or the Canadian truckers insurrection against Trudeau’s Globalist agenda, refusal to comply with the Satanic LBQT

However, there are small incremental steps which aid in solutions by trying to break through the mental blocks of people by pointing out, without getting into a slanging match, the inconsistencies in history plus present day Bernay’s /Lippmann inspired controlled narratives.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 23, 2025 9:52 PM
djm
djm
Nov 23, 2025 9:09 PM

Hope the proof reading on the book is of a higher standard…………..

Iain davis
Iain davis
Nov 23, 2025 8:14 PM

Thanks for sharing. Appreciated.