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WATCH: Spoil the Vote! – #SolutionsWatch

The anti-war crowd likes to ask: What if they started a war and no one showed up? So, perhaps statists should be asking: What if they held a (s)election and no one voted? Join James today for an exploration of ballot spoiling, from Mexican presentations to Irish presidential (s)elections to Nobel prize-winning literature.

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Erik Strand
Erik Strand
Dec 1, 2025 7:55 PM

Having seen the video, I doubt if this is a strategy to spend time on. Others have questioned the forces in the “Spoil the vote” campaign in the comments here. If 95 % of the voters spoiled the votes or voted blank, those in power vould still have the the power belonging to the office – control of police, military etc.

Another thing is that the number of blank votes could just as easily be manipulated as the distribution between candidates and parties. In this way, “sending a message” by spoiling the vote or voting blank runs into some of the same problems as participating in the system – the possibility of manipulation.

I have myself participated in parti politics for a while. I know that the system is infiltrated. Heard about the book “Weaponizing Anti Semitism” about the takeover of Labour in Britain? I have written a lengthy article on my experiences from party politics and know some things about infiltration. Some might find it interesting – it can be read at https://fampo.no/memoirs-from-my-time-in-the-coastal-party/

One lesson learned is that going into party politics with the will to go against shady politics like lockdown and proxy wars and local or national corruption schemes tend to meet all kinds of opposition, sometimes subtle, sometimes blunt. I have made the following thought: what if more people went into a party (left, right or centre) with the honest motivation to vote out and expose shady politicians AND false opposition. It could be interesting and it could be a troublesome showdown for one or both sides. The problem is that we likely nevner will know, as to few participate. That is the sad part of mainstream party politics. I suspect that a boicott of the system will run into the same problem – to few will participate and little will be gained. Maybe there will be some instances of very low voter turnout, but then some charismatic false opposition leader will dupe a lot of people.

So there are problems with both participating in politics and boicotting it. But as a defence of my approach, I will say that while I have wasted a lot of time, it has not been entirely futile. I have been able to collect some material for an article about the infiltrated system. i have been able to use election campaigns to speak uncensored for at least three minutes to a large ratio of students in one Norwegian county about corrupt Norway. I also included the war in Syria in 2017. One funny reaction to that (I suppose that it was a reaction, if not proven) was that when I entered the scene in one school debate, I as a representative for a moderate (relatively few would disagree to that) Norwegian party was placed to the right of everyone in tha panel, including one participant labeled as a nazi (read my article). Fortunately, election campaign is not only a riggable battle of votes. It is also a medium where the streets mailboxes and so on can be used.

I will conclude by saying that we might disagree on strategy, but I hope that all who have the will to oppose a political mafia by spreading documentation.

sandy
sandy
Dec 1, 2025 6:23 PM

People are already not-voting en masse and for a very long time. Only 60% of eligible voters in the US vote for president which draws the largest percentage of voters of the majority of US sElections. The sElected rarely get more than 25% of eligible voters. Jerry Brown was sElected governor of California in 2014 by only 15% of eligible voters. NYC mayor Eric Adams was sElected by less than 20% in 2021 and Mamdani just 20% last month. The actual puny eligible voter turnout is not discussed anywhere in media. Registration of voters is also low like 60%. The products of US sElections are an invalid form of democratic republic. Any elected should have more than 50% of eligible votes to have a valid “representative democracy” mandate. No politician in the US has anywhere near a 51% mandate from eligible voters. It’s fraud, plain and simple. To find this out on your own, find census data for total eligible to vote, then compare to total registered and the final vote count. It’s there in black & white but ya’ gotta look it up on your own.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 2, 2025 8:27 PM
Reply to  sandy

That’s the same scenario in all western countries and probably for the formation of coalition governments. Even the popular Hitler “only” got 33.1% of the vote back in 1932 according to de.wikipedia.org.

Hail
Hail
Dec 1, 2025 5:47 PM

For the naive who still in 2025 dont understand the ritual.
ballot = beliet
spoiling means in slang – sexual.

Walter Russell’s universal one book is the less complication in how Electorate works.

Thom
Thom
Dec 1, 2025 4:26 PM

Even without compulsory voting, I have spoiled my ballot paper a few times in UK local or police elections, if I see no real difference between the hopefuls. But another tactic in the national elections is to vote for the opposite of what the establishment media are telling you to vote for, even if you dislike their politics. I have done that in a couple of elections.

flem
flem
Dec 1, 2025 11:08 AM

I have doubts the Irish “Spoil the Vote” campaign was a genuine grassroots movement. It would not have been given the coverage on the tightly controlled Irish mainstream media that it received had it been deemed any sort of threat to the establishment. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY3exlroffQ

The most prominent leader of the campaign was Declan Ganley, CEO of telecom firm Rivada Networks. Ganley is busy setting up the “Outernet” above us and receives financial backing from Peter Theil.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/he-wants-to-build-the-outernet-in-space-beijing-wants-to-steal-it-5946101

I suspect that the power-that-be decided the Spoil the Vote campaign was a safe way for disenfranchised members of the public to vent their frustrations, while encouraging them to maintain a (misplaced?) faith in vote-counting and the Irish electoral process itself

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Dec 1, 2025 5:31 PM
Reply to  flem

Perhaps it is as you have mentioned, a pressure release valve using controlled opposition in vote spoiling campaigns or perhaps it is a stepping stone to descredit the electoral process entirely.

Manage and steer the disenfranchisment with the political process and the voting system in order to usher in a technocratic solution. There is so much public distrust of politicians and so-called democracy that the void is ready to be filled with a pre-packaged solution of the controllers choosing. The obvious solution meaning no more elections nor political appointees, instead replaced by technocrats and experts.

After all, once the electoral system has been removed and forgotten over time, then it will be consigned to history, eliminating the risk (for the controllers) of genuine democratic reform or new bottom-up systems arising.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Dec 1, 2025 5:33 PM
Reply to  flem

Perhaps it is as you have mentioned, a pressure release valve using controlled opposition in vote spoiling campaigns or perhaps it is a stepping stone to descredit the electoral process entirely.

Manage and steer the disenfranchisment with the political process and the voting system, in order to usher in a technocratic solution. There is so much public distrust of politicians and so-called democracy that the void is ready to be filled with a pre-packaged solution of the controllers choosing. The obvious solution meaning no more elections nor political appointees, instead replaced by technocrats and experts.

After all, once the electoral system has been removed and forgotten over time, then it will be consigned to history, eliminating the risk (for the controllers) of genuine democratic reform or new bottom-up systems arising.

les online
les online
Dec 1, 2025 9:30 AM

‘Spoil the vote’ – is that expressive of anal aggression ?

antonym
antonym
Dec 1, 2025 8:44 AM

From an ex-Bejing citizen: How the Chinese Became the Most Unhappy People in the World
Voting is not even possible there for the 99% in “workers paradise” PRC; the remaining 1% can only vote for 1 guy if they want to stay in the animal house.

les online
les online
Dec 1, 2025 9:41 AM
Reply to  antonym

As if the 99% voting can change anything !!
It doesnt here in The West…
Anyway, The Chinese are quite happy
they have Social Harmony….
…….
While the Suffragettes were insisting on the vote for women, when they
werent throwing themselves in front of horses at the racetrack, there
were other females totally opposed to voting frights for women – they
didnt want women demeaning themselves with the “dirty business of
politics”… )And women in politics didnt change a thing !)…
…… As we said back then “Being clobbered by a nightstick wielded by
a female copper – was still being clobbered by a nightstick !”

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 2, 2025 1:04 AM
Reply to  antonym

Dont they have “worker committees” in each areas who decide on majority or consensus?

I have worked with Chinese, they are quite comfortable and easy going, but bad payers. Up to 3 month quarrel to get your rightful money.

Freddy
Freddy
Dec 1, 2025 4:36 AM

AI-generated answer: “Quantum physics is not just weird science in a lab – it quietly runs your everyday life. The tiny rules Heisenberg helped discover are what make smartphones, laptops, LEDs and flat‑screen TVs work, because their chips and screens rely on electrons behaving in a quantum way. Every time you pay with a card, stream a movie over fiber‑optic cables, or follow GPS directions, you are using technology that depends on lasers, semiconductors and ultra‑precise atomic clocks – all designed using quantum mechanics, even if it never says so on the box.”

And so we return to Heligoland. In 1949, 12
pilots wanted to grace the already devastated
island with even more bombs, but fate thwar-
ted their plans. Now the Brits are angry with
demonic Jew Miliband, who decided to dishonor
the open-air memorial with the torn-off limbs of
the unintended “heroes.” https://archive.is/72PDT

Meanwhile, Heligoland recently hosted 300
international physicists to mark Heisenberg’s
groundbreaking discovery on the island, which
led to the development of quantum mechanics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrghINXi378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIXSmhg78HY

https://archive.is/p0hlh
https://archive.ph/FQ8yU

The guests presumably traveled there on
the catamaran named after the islanders’
nearly extinct language, which was built by 
an Australian shipyard in the Philippines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwCM9aHQ0zw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZx1CNFlo8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helgoland_(book)
https://pdfhost.io/v/GSvzeVa5Qg_Rovelli_-_Heligoland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDBrvqJViU0

The incorrigible Marxists are com-
plaining, because Heisenberg has re-
futed their great party leader Lenin.
https://archive.is/toCGE

American Ryan Dahn is also dissatisfied with
the Heligoland myth. When will this eternal
terror against the innocent little island finally
come to an end? https://archive.ph/tiJRM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Schirach
https://pdfhost.io/v/zazbUYJdLk_Schirach_-_Night_of_the_Physics
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/uli-edel-direct-heisenberg-film-nazi-pursuit-a-bomb-1282482/
https://rumble.com/v72f2ji-the-complete-history-of-the-german-nuclear-program.html

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 1, 2025 4:07 AM

Wanna hear something disgusting?
I mean disgustingly perverse.

aUStralia is about to increase its ‘defence’ budget to $100 billion per year by the 2030s.

I know that’s chicken feed compared with our masters; The Empire of Greed and Hypocrisy, but in comparative terms it is up there with the biggest Mass Murderers in the Universe.

Humanity? What’s that?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 2, 2025 1:09 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I cant believe it.

antonym
antonym
Dec 1, 2025 3:32 AM

The CIA will look at this such: how can we take advantage of this vote spoiling thing to steer a next election abroad or domestically?

By the way, there are ‘good’ and bad wars: stopping Hitler was a good one and stopping Saddam was the opposite. Don’t become wax Gandian peaceniks, both CIA and CCP would love it, easy to take over your culture. Tolerance for the intolerant is suicidal. Indian epics like the Ramayana and Mahabharata describe just wars. Hard in the short run, best on the long one.

The Ukraine war is of the bad kind, but has its use in exposing Brussels as a bunch of warmongers vying for a third WW starting from Europe. Trump is right on this one.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 2, 2025 1:11 AM
Reply to  antonym

Precisely as I said. But everybody refused to hear it in their Trump hate syndrome.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 1, 2025 1:11 AM

Did a little search (spoiled ballots in Irish presidential election) and pretty much all were from directly after the election in late October, with many discussing the high number of spoiled ballots, and some conclusions from the writers/publications and/or politicians along the lines of, “Hmm, maybe we have a problem, we should look into it”.

Nothing since then. Doesn’t look like they’re going to look into it.

I remember when the 2014 mid-terms in the US had a 36% turnout, the lowest since WWII, and I thought something should be made of that. But it didn’t get a squeak. Personally, I haven’t voted for either of the two major private political parties since I (mistakenly) voted for Obama in 2008. After his first 30 days, I finally woke up, although I had never been a big voter for politicians, sticking mostly with direct democracy referendums and initiatives (state, county levels), and at that point the republicans and Bush were so bad that I fell for wanting a change to Obama and the Dems. But it doesn’t do any good. I think the only way something like this could effect change would be if there was a major organized effort to demand a change in the political system itself and the spoiled ballots included that consistent demand. Sort of like an unofficial referendum or initiative (because in the US, they don’t dare offer national initiatives or referendums) organized by the people to counter the corrupt system in place. Basically a revolution along the lines of the Declaration of Independence, Something that simply could not be ignored and could continue to gain traction.

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.”

If that doesn’t fit the present situation, I don’t know what will.

Hail
Hail
Dec 1, 2025 5:48 PM

spoiled ballots still get counted
so it still voting


Big Al
Big Al
Dec 2, 2025 4:50 AM
Reply to  Hail

So?

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 2, 2025 4:49 AM

The interest of those contributing at this site is pretty shoddy. This is actually a pretty big thing, but no one seems interested in debating the issue and really getting into it, which is par for the course for the “alternative media”. By and large must a bunch of people who have certain political leanings but simply participate in very basic way with no interest in actually collaborating to try to change things. I’ve seen it in blog after blog. And never any effort to combine the forces of all those blogs into an effective tool. The promise of the internet we talked over two decades ago relative to political activism has been neutered by the lack of any desire to actually do something about it.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 2, 2025 4:49 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Typos, fuck. Should be a way to edit.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Dec 3, 2025 6:31 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Most people are not interested in solutions on here, with a few exceptions. They come here to vent. Solutions involve hard work, personal responsibility and planning. When I raised the issue of solutions on here and wanted to create conversation about such ideas there was little interest.

The best you can do is make your own plans – have a Plan B, get physically fit and healthy, learn some skills and stay mentally strong. Starting locally in any way you can is the key to change – try to control what you can, not what you can’t.

If things do not turn out as badly as you may think, then great but the mantra of “Fail to prepare, prepare to fail” still applies.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 3, 2025 10:38 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Yep. Been “blogging” for almost 25 years now and seen it over and over. Whenever it gets to solution time, people fade out. Hypocrisy abounds on the internet.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Dec 5, 2025 6:48 AM
Reply to  Big Al

That is why the controllers can control the people. The outsourcing of responsibility to a third party seems to be the human condition.

If all the words ever written complaining and instead of going around in circles were converted into actions, perhaps we would actually get somewhere.

les online
les online
Dec 1, 2025 1:05 AM

Severed from their historical usages words can mean what governments
want them to mean. Democracy ? 0nce it meant rule by the people, now
it simply means ticking a box on a bit of paper every coupla years (unless
your democracy has been upgraded to one of those voting machines (aka
Progress)…

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 30, 2025 10:50 PM
jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Nov 30, 2025 10:06 PM

I think Aliens from Outer Space are more likely to save us than AI will.

rickypop
rickypop
Nov 30, 2025 9:54 PM

What if we Dont:
Pay tax.
Go to court
Apply for a license
Register our property
Register our kids
Pay council tax
Pay for a TV license
Pay our loans or mortgages.
Accept authority

Anarchy is coming, its being created by the powers that own us.
But what if we start the ball rolling?

red lester
red lester
Dec 1, 2025 2:59 PM
Reply to  rickypop

Life will be hard for the 1st million who do it.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 30, 2025 9:09 PM

Exactly my strategy too. As I live in a country where voting is compulsory, I invalidate my ballot papers. Voting keeps the system legitimate, which it is not.

rickypop
rickypop
Nov 30, 2025 9:55 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

It is only compulsory if you consent to their authority and cannot be tricked by legalese bullshit

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 30, 2025 10:43 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Same here Veri Tas.

I refused to vote one year. They took me to court. I had to suffer as a magistrate give me a sermon on ‘democracy’. That, and a fifty dollar fine!
Smug, self serving, servants of Mammon. All of them.

K6H
K6H
Dec 1, 2025 12:38 PM
Reply to  Johnny

So what if voting is made compulsory by a corrupt Government? So long as you turn up to vote, you are accepting the system. Whether you spoil a ballot paper or not.
If you never voted, never turned up to court and ignored any fine sent through the post, what would they do?
So long as they keep telling you to jump through hoops and people dutifully do it, nothing will change

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 1, 2025 10:01 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Easier on the pocket and your time to just invalidate the ballot paper.

Frances
Frances
Nov 30, 2025 11:26 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

fine for not voting in Australian elections is $20.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 1, 2025 3:55 AM
Reply to  Frances

This was in the late 90s. It was $50. Almost a half a day’s pay.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Nov 30, 2025 8:25 PM

Donovan. Long time no see, thats why: https://youtu.be/cmABwYoorLw . Universal soldier.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Nov 30, 2025 7:55 PM

The Great McGinty