Today, in about eight hours, NASA will be launching their Artemis II mission, the first manned rocket to circle moon and come back to Earth in fifty years. The next step, penciled in for 2028, is to land people on the moon an Artemis IV.
Then they’re going to build a lunar base.
The press are calling it “historic”, which is perhaps an odd way to describe something that has, according to official sources, been done before, the last time by Apollo 13, five decades ago and as the result of an accident.
As Iain Davis observed on X, we have allegedly played golf and driven dune buggies on the moon, so calling just flying past it one more time “historic” is rather odd.
Perhaps the use of the word “historic” pertains to the crew, which is so delightfully diverse it boasts both the first woman, first person of colour and first non-American to go beyond Earth’s orbit.
Of course, it’s commonly held – and the number of people who believe it seems to be growing – that no one has ever gone to the moon before, which makes this a very interesting discussion.
After all, we do live in the age of the fake-out, and a fake Artemis moon-project would certainly be a nice distraction right about now.
You can also argue technology has unquestionably improved since the paper and Scotch-tape LEM made its first brave venture.
But does that make this new moon mission more likely to be fake than the previous ones, or less?
What do you guys think?
- Do you believe we have been to the moon before?
- Do you think Artemis is more genuine than Apollo, or less? Or are they both outrageously bogus?
- Will we walk, or re-walk, on the moon by 2030?
- Will they really build a Lunar Base?
- Is it at all relevant they’re launching on April Fools Day?
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Everything fake of course. Nevertheless, still potentially interesting to hear of what a trip round the Moon actually feels like, for those still capable of suspending inveterate cynicism (with no digital Id required):
As long as it feels good, it mush be real, right?
You know that for your masters, raping children feels good, right?
You should examine your own feelings and decide if “feeling good” is the criterion for truth you want.
Has one of the actornauts of the Artemis II “Mission” been rumbled here – further up the thread she freezes in mid speech, probably her earpiece suffered a glitch.
Truth Seeker (@_TruthZone_): “This is bizarre! Christina Koch forgets her lines and freezes on stage https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/1f914.svg The world is a stage…” | nitter.poast.org
Christina Koch – IMDb
Haha that’s pretty damning. Looks to me like she is wearing a concealed ear piece and being dictated what to say and the feed dropped momentarily.
They say the IMDB page is an Australian actress not her, though apparently she does have her own page die to appearing in documentaries.
Not totally convinced by that, but it might be true. They would be crazy to use a professional actress but they have seemingly done it before, so people say.
Another thing that I keep noticing is that her Wiki page photo really doesn’t look much like the same woman we see in the videos. To me she looks noticeably different , is that just me?
Good article.
Here’s the actual footage of Artemis II flying around the moon.
A good amount of that “footage” is labeled as “VISUALISATION” – tellingly it’s virtually indistinguishable from what is claimed as “real”. The angles are the only obvious difference.
In short this is not evidence of anything.
If they could show a full image of the Milky Way or any star fields as they look from moon-orbit with no atmosphere to blur them – now that would be evidence.
But that’s not going to happen is it. I wonder why.
There are lots of AI generated images and space fantasies online to satisfy your appetite.
Yeah, and most of those images were
faked“visualised” by NASA!Data, films, documentation or technology has not been lost. That’s just another lie from the moon landing deniers.
Original films and negatives from all Apollo missions are stored in a cold vault to ensure their preservation. The digitization of the material is still ongoing. However, there’s much to be seen already, accessible to internet users. For example, a real-time journey through the first landing on the moon, click NOW to see photographs, video, transcripts, audio.
https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/
Similar real-time experience also available for Apollo 13 and 17 on that site. But of course it’s much easier to join the cry fake choir than watch these long journeys that are often quite boring.
The original TV footage – GONE
The details of LEM construction – GONE
Info on how the complex comms were achieved – GONE
Details on how they researched the VABs after discovery and prior to sending humans through them – GONE or NEVER EXISTED.
I could go on – but I doubt it will have any impact.
It was NASA’s own scientists that claimed the technology had been lost.
They also are on record in the 2000s saying they would need to work out how to safely send humans through the VA Belts before they could go “back” to the moon.
Apparently they just forgot they had already sent humans through the VABs 20+ times with ZERO negative effects. and for some reason the VABs suddenly became a huge problem enough to stop them even trying to “go back” for over fifty years.
But now that has all been freshly memory-holed and we’re back to the old Apollo story of “we just shoot through really quickly and it’s fine”.
They literally can’t even keep their own story straight.
Why are you lying?
NASA repeatedly said they have lost/misplaced/erased the original tapes.
They have lost/destroyed the blueprints for Saturn V, capsule and the LEM, not to mention the buggy.
In fact, IT’S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to provide positive proof that they exist.
Share links to the above and then explain why NONE OF THAT TECH HAS EVER BEEN USED AGAIN, despite the fact that it was the most successful space mission ever.
Admin, my reply here still hasn’t been published.
I do not see any reply from you in the pending or trash or spam. I fear it has not come in to us. I hope it did not take you long to write. Perhaps you can try again.
I posted it again and it’s pending. There are five links, is that a problem?
More than I think three links is always put in pending to protect against spam. Your comment is set free now
If you see a train going somewhere, do you have to see the detailed blueprints for its construction?
Do you not believe there’s a train going somewhere, unless they show you how they make trains and rails?
You may not know where the train is coming from and where it’s going, but I’m sure with a little brainwork you can figure out it is definitely coming from some station and going to another.
You can fantasize about the train’s destination and its origin, but your normal human logic will tell you that imaginations are not knowledge. So where to get knowledge?
If you’re stupid, maybe you ask someone who is like you, ignorant, and who, like you, may also have some of his own fantasies to share with you. And you may believe him. Maybe he’s really good at fooling people.
But it is not wise to seek information from someone who knows nothing about the subject.
Nasa has never said they lost important documents, knowledge, ability or technology. Those are claims from the moon hoax crowd.
The erased raw data backups of Apollo 11 are not important as the television footage still exists. Lots of links here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes
Instead of focusing on what doesn’t exist, why not focus on what does? Blueprints and technical documentation for the Saturn V rocket and Apollo spacecraft are mainly on microfilm at Marshall Space Flight Center. Digitization of this material is not complete.
You want data, start here:
https://data.nasa.gov/
There’s a link to the Nasa Technical Reports Server or NTRS Search Page. Write there what you are looking for and notice the number of items you get.
Other places:
https://www.archives.gov/space
https://apollojournals.org/
And finally, read and watch:
https://ladtech.co.uk/did-we-lose-the-technology-to-go-to-the-moon-myth-vs-reality/
hmmm, actual nasa astronaut and spokesperson don petitt openly admitting nasa doesn’t have that technology anymore because it was lost and very hard to reproduce
or, some random ignorant internet fanboy blowing smoke because their reason for existence is inextricably entwined with the ‘science is the new rock & roll’ paradigm
i think i’ll listen to the nasa peep (revelation of the method)
Don Pettit’s words have been taken out of context and misinterpreted. Interviewed by WIRED in 2004, he said:
“I’d go to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don’t have the technology to do that anymore. We used to but we destroyed that technology and it’s a painful process to build it back again. But going to Mars should be one of the next series of steps that humans do.”
So he’s saying it’s a painful process. He doesn’t say it can’t be done. He is not saying that it’s impossible to build a manned spaceship. He is not saying it’s impossible to go to the moon. And he is not saying it hasn’t been done.
Nasa didn’t build manned spaceships because the Apollo program was cancelled by Nixon in 1970. It wasn’t funded. Knowledge wasn’t lost, but the technology that was used was of course lost. Unique manned spaceships and equipment are mostly destroyed during the journey of left on the moon. After 1972 and the last Apollo mission, the moon has been researched mainly by machines, orbiters and landers.
https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/why-did-we-stop-going-moon
There certainly is technology to go there. In fact, technology is much better than 50 years ago. Artemis II has just proved that.
Yeah, remember the time Columbus sailed across the sea to America and then no one went back there for fifty years because they destroyed the technology and had to figure out how to build a sailing ship again?
Me neither. You know why? – Because it’s STUPID.
Admin, has my pending comment vanished again?
It was put in trash by our friend Akismet but I saved it
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Long time ago I gave some money to my kid for the science fair project ($100 billions or so).
He came back and proudly said: “I built a 33 foot tall volcano that can shoot lava 911 feet up in the air!”
Then he showed me a grainy video of him standing next to a giant volcano, unaffected by heat or lava.
“Where is the volcano?” I asked.
“Sorry” he said, “I had to dismantle it, it was in the neighbor’s yard and he wanted $5 rent a year”.
“Ok, but why is the video so grainy?”
“Oh, I used an old camera so I had to reshoot it from a tiny tv screen”
“Let’s get the original videos” I said, “and we can get a better copy”
“Sorry again, dad, but I erased the tape, you know tapes are expensive!”
“What about the blueprints, the chemicals that you used?”
“The dog ate them all”
“Can you rebuild one for me?”
“I lost the technology”
The next day he got first prize. The newspapers named it “the highest achievement of humankind”. I was never so proud.
50 years have passed and my son came back from his McDonald job and said:
“Dad, I am ready to build the volcano again”
“Finally, I said, let’s do it”.
This time he need $500 billions and he said the volcano will only be 3 feet tall and no shooting lava. Nevertheless, I can’t be any prouder of him.
None of you are trying to monitor what is happening right now. None of you have telescopes. None of you can hack into the NASA communications. Surely you are all so bright you can prove it’s not happening while it’s happening. No? You just wanna whine? Well, OK then.
Why are you here when you cannot prove that you are just a figment of my imagination that I can remove with one thought?
See? You can’t prove a negative. But most people go through life ok without giving all their money to conmen claiming they have the elixir of life.
The reason is simple: most people do use reason in their daily activities. Of course when it comes to the pedophile masters of the world, most slaves will swallow everything – like you do.
I haven’t read every post, so the following may have already been mentioned. A very informative and amusing piece on the whole Apollo programme can be found here:
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/
There is also Miles mathis (mileswmathis.com) which is another prophet crying in the wilderness (and like all lonely people, kind of kooky but still worth reading).
There are some documentaries too: Bart Sibrel et al.
Of course you need to search in a non-western search engine (like Yandex) and non-CIA websites (not Youtube).
Well, OF COURSE !!!!! We “DID” walk on the Moon in 69 AND Building #7 DID collapse into it’s own footprint due to “Office Furniture Fires” on 9/11 from “flying debry” of the Twin Towers which BOTH collapsed into their own footprints hours before due to “Fires” from the World’s “Strongest” hollow aluminum tubes cutting through huge steel columns 90 stories up for the first and ONLY time in recorded history !!!!!! Trust Me, I’m from the Government or one of the 5 Corporations that own Mainstream Media ( and soon, all mainstream Internet)…..
You have to accept that the pedophile zionist masters of the world know what they are doing.
The reason the psyops are so dumb (like Artemis II astronots being all ~50yo) is BECAUSE IT’S ENOUGH.
So the sad conclusion is that most people are willing slaves that will believe anything from their masters.
No one went to the moon, no one is going to the moon. NASA is ALL LIES!!
Hegemony is toppling. And yet they are able to fake going to the moon so well you would think they actually are flying around it as we speak.
Lunar Flyby – NASA
I hate to tell you, but you can see the stars in the photos of the moon eclipsing the sun. Otherwise, they are photographing in sun brightness so extreme, they have to us a real fast shutter speed, and so the stars can’t be seen. Look it up.
I can understand your confusion: the pedo govt explanations are so contradictory that you have to be really stupid to believe them.
WIth no atmosphere, any photo will show stars, even in the full sun.
In fact you can see stars during daylight even from the top of tall mountains.
But don’t you worry about that.
If we had access to the original films, I’m sure we could make a stab at whether the film was something connocted on a film set or actual moon footage.
MIT released software technology over 14yrs ago, which could have answered the question, but it seems the orginal footage has disappeared faster than Trump IQ level.
Question for the believers – Why did Michael Collins say in the post-mission presser “I don’t remember seeing any stars”, but in his autobiography, just FIVE YEARS later, claim he saw “billions” of them?
If I understand correctly, Neil “theatre minor” Armstrong said it first so all the others had to copy him – plus it was a (stupid) excuse for stars missing from the photos.
Later they had to insert lines in the transcript where he says that yes, he did see stars.
BTW, why didn’t they take a small telescope to the Moon instead of a stupid buggy?
They would have been able to see stuff invisible from the Earth.
Weird, no?
Neil A is alien backwards
Terrific substack focusing on the scientific impossibility of NASA’a Apollo claims
https://unstabbinated.substack.com/p/the-apollo-moon-landings-were-the
Just focus on the onboard computers…
“Take your cell phone. 4 kb is equal to 0.0000038147 Gb. Your current cell phone will have 4-32 GB of memory. Take your cell phone and reduce that memory down to .000004 Gb (or far less), and see how well it works. Now connect the reduced .000004 Gb cell phone to your wi-fi. Divide the wi-fi bandwidth by 1000. Take a video with your phone. Now try and send that video to an IP address (or email) over that network. This is what NASA claims to have done from the Moon.
The author has worked on many complex networking projects and understands that the limited memory (4Kb) of the ACG, limited battery life to run the sysetms, and the constrained network bandwidth connecting the ACG to Earth-situation mainframes makes the transference of ‘rich data’ i.e. videos, impossible.
Further, the module would have to run air-conditioning non-stop as it sat on the lunar surfce, bathed in balmy temperatures of 250 F. How then, did they have the power to transmit the images through the communications system as described above?
There is no possibility that without a functioning and ‘robust’ computer system, which possesses GB of memory, a central processing unit capacity with at leat >3 Ghz, you could pull off the complicated machinations needed to orbit the Moon, disengage the LEM from the command module, land the LEM, perform the various networking-memory limited tasks and transmissions, lift the LEM off the moon, reconnect it to the orbiting command module, and then return to the Earth.
You cannot program and run even the most basic project code in a system with no memory and no Ghz CPU power. NASA has never provided the original code which supposedly managed the unfathomable complexity of all activities from the Earth to the Moon and back, on a real time operating system (RTOS), with no memory. RTOS did not exist in the 1960s (they started to be built in the late 1980s, 1990s, an example is a point-of-sale, car navigation, or ATM).”
Also note the Artemis rocket is TWICE the weight of Saturn 5 and carries less fuel, so they need to “re-fuel” in space. So much for advancing technology!
Why didn’t they just use a Saturn 5?
Oh that’s right, they scrapped them all – and then “lost the technology”
Actually the Saturn Vs are still around, in some museums and at NASA.
But yes, according to NASA, all the engineers that knew how to make them fly are retired, the blueprints are lost and “we lost the technology to go to the Moon” (actual quote).
t is a common and understandable reaction to look at the technology we carry in our pockets today and wonder how we ever reached the moon with hardware that seems primitive by comparison. However, the argument you’ve shared relies on several misunderstandings of how 1960s engineering functioned.
Here is a breakdown of how NASA accomplished these feats without modern gigahertz processors or gigabytes of RAM.
1. The Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) vs. Your Phone
The comparison between a modern smartphone and the AGC is a “false equivalence.”
Modern Phones: Most of your phone’s memory and CPU power is dedicated to rendering high-definition graphics, running background apps, and managing complex operating systems like Android or iOS.
The AGC: This was a hard-wired, task-specific machine. It didn’t have a screen to render pixels; it communicated through a simple numerical display (the DSKY).
The Code: NASA actually has released the original code. It was written in assembly language and was incredibly efficient. Because the hardware was limited, the engineers had to be masters of optimization. Every bit of the 72 KB of “Read-Only” memory (woven by hand into “rope memory”) was used for physics calculations—not for processing video.
2. The Video Transmission: It Wasn’t “Networking”
The claim that they sent video through the computer is a fundamental misunderstanding of the hardware.
Analog vs. Digital: In 1969, video was not “data” in the way it is today. It wasn’t a file being sent to an IP address. It was an analog signal transmitted via radio waves, much like how a TV station broadcasted to a home antenna in the 60s.
The Computer Didn’t Process Video: The AGC had nothing to do with the video or photos. The camera captured a signal, which was fed into the Unified S-Band (USB) system, a powerful radio transmitter that beamed the raw analog waves directly to massive receiver dishes on Earth (like the Parkes Observatory).
3. Power and Cooling in a Vacuum
The argument mentions the 250
∘
F lunar surface. While the Sun’s radiation is intense, the Moon has no atmosphere.
Thermodynamics: Heat only moves via radiation, conduction, or convection. In a vacuum, there is no air to “cook” the module through convection.
Reflective Shielding: The Lunar Module (LM) was wrapped in Kapton and Mylar (the “gold foil”), which was highly effective at reflecting solar radiation.
Sublimators: To stay cool, NASA used “sublimators”—devices that exposed ice to the vacuum of space. As the ice turned directly into vapor, it carried the heat away from the spacecraft’s electronics.
Fuel Cells: Power didn’t come from a “battery” like a phone. It came from hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells, which provided a steady stream of electricity and produced drinking water as a byproduct.
4. Did Real-Time Operating Systems (RTOS) Exist?
The claim that RTOS didn’t exist until the 1980s is historically incorrect.
The First RTOS: The AGC used one of the first-ever priority-based, multi-tasking operating systems. It was designed by Hal Laning at MIT.
Priority Interrupts: During the Apollo 11 landing, the computer famously threw “1202” and “1201” alarms. These occurred because the computer was being overloaded with data. Because it had a real-time scheduler, it was smart enough to say, “I’m too busy; I will ignore the low-priority radar data and focus only on the high-priority landing engine calculations.” This is the definition of an RTOS.
Summary
We didn’t go to the Moon with “no memory”; we went with specialized hardware.
If you want to fly a drone today, you use a smartphone with billions of transistors. But in the 1960s, we used the laws of orbital mechanics, which are mathematically “heavy” but computationally “light.” The math required to orbit the Moon is predictable; you don’t need a 3 GHz processor to solve a series of differential equations—you just need a very reliable, very specific calculator.
NASA’s original source code for the Apollo 11 Guidance Computer is openly available on platforms like GitHub today for anyone to inspect. It is a masterclass in doing a lot with very little.
ok NASA fanboi… we get it, you are a troll for the liars.
Isn’t amazing that the code was written by a undergrad at MIT as an afterthought?
Or that the takeoff from the Moon COULD NEVER BE TESTED?
Everytime they tried it on Earth, the astronots almost died so they gave up.
Idk the policy here on telling it like it is, but you deserve the worst for defending pedophile genocidal maniacs – paid or not.
Interesting timing of Artemis on the dark side as it moves into radio silence: 18.47 EDT – a 9/11 reference?
Just to add, they’re saying in MSM that it will be the first time that any human has been so far from home, then mention Michael Collins who had to orbit via the dark side when he was alone in the control module of Apollo 11 while waiting to pick up the tin can with Edwin (Buzz) Aldrin and Neil Armstrong. No pictures taken? Just noticed all three of their names contain the word alien 😂
Jarrah White’s Moonfaker series pretty much nailed the impossibility of the Apollo missions being real. A truly exhaustive multi-playlist series that takes apart every aspect of the moon-landing narrative and exposes the litany of lies, fraud and misdirection it contains. Here is just one series of vids covering the LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5kHPexBIWk&list=PLEE53A79DEDA4AD44
He was an eager young science student back when he made these videos, but sadly he’s “matured” into a covid Nazi and all round a-hole. But his Apollo vids remain some of the best out there
Don’t judge him too harshly.
The pedo oligarchs spend billions trying to find “buttons” to push for all of us.
Some failed for the patriotic 9/11, others for “dead children” like Sandy Hook, others for fear of death in coflu etc.
Once someone buys emotionally into a govt lie, THEY HAVE TO BUY INTO ALL OF THEM, or else the cognitive dissonance will destroy them.
The few of us that keep pushing and are willing to lose pieces of ourselves over the truth have to either check out of the world (I did that) or have an incredible amount of energy and resilience to stand up against the psychopaths and their billions of willing slaves and say “you are all wrong”.
I notice most of the moon landing deniers worship a magical dew.
New film Project Hail Mary makes the mission seem legit.
Andy Weir’s story is incredibly (as in I cannot believe it).
He came up with “The Martian”, gave it away for free, and got a book deal and a movie option IN THE SAME WEEK. Perfectly normal, right?
I have to give it to our pedo overlords: they cover all eventualities.
Even now as we speak I bet there are movies and books being written that will normalize 15 minute cities, slavery and euthanasia.
Its another NASA fake.
“NASA has a long, well-documented history of using:
• Image stacking
• Color correction
• Composite stitching
• Exposure balancing
This is all done to make the illusion of space travel and give the viewer the idea it is real.
Combined with some lying actors called astronauts people really think they are going somewhere. But it is all a big illusion.”
I wonder how much the Actor-nauts are being paid for this show?
https://www.mediocremonday.com/artemis-ii-fake-image-explained/
Thanks for sharing this post!
Why is nobody investigating Artemis 2? Instead of whining about it. Let me see some facts that prove it is not happening. Or that it is happening. Whatevere. Instead of just whining whining whining. Prove me wrong. Prove me right. Show me some evidence somewhere somehow.
Oh? No. Can’t do it. Would rather whine. OK. Check. Then I believe you. Whatever you say must be right. You say they can’t go to the moon, and so they can’t go to the moon. Check. I believe you. Yup. How could I not believe you. Besides the fact you have no actual facts on your side.
We are investigating – you aren’t.
April Fools Day is an anagram of:
Apollo Fridays
(Secret Messages in Plain Paper wrapping written in lemon juice on cartridge paper…Shhh)
That proves it, I think
Artemis 1 launched on November 16, 2022 the one with the dummy’s
Artemis 2 launched on April 1st 2026 (different dummy’s) so 3 years 5 month
Artemis 3 ? 2028 2 years time they just need to finish the lander and work out how to refuel Artemis 3 as it does not have enough power to carry payload of lander
If only they could remember how they built Saturn 5 rocket but they lost the plans as with everything else they lost.
Artemis 2 will be doing special monoverse to reduce radiation from van allen belt
Official reason Apollo crews were ok. They were LUCKY
So maybe Artemis are actually going to the moon for the first time with modern tech. Everything else prior being fake. Does that provide any reason to knock the Program?
You are a genius, Vagabard!
Yes they lied before and killed innocent people to cover it up (Apollo 1) but this time FOR SURE they are telling the truth.
The left photo was taken December 7, 1972. Every human alive was in that frame. It became the most reproduced photograph in history. The crew of Apollo 17 took it 45,000 km from Earth on their way to the last human Moon landing. 54 years passed before anyone went far enough to take the second one. Both images. Same planet. Completely different civilization looking back at it.
The Africas vs the Americas. Perhaps the world does rotate after all, given sunrise and sunsets? Who’d have thought it possible
The first one is taken while everybody were asleep, and the second at lunch time.
“Different world” ohh my……….
“54 years passed before anyone went far enough to take the second one.”
With the exception of a few dozen robotic missions…
Answers to whys and whatabouts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMHLvoWZfqQ
00:00:00 – intro
00:04:40 – apollo 17 liftoff footage
00:19:05 – why don’t we see stars
00:25:40 – lunar shadows
00:32:00 – crosshairs behind objects
00:34:10 – why did the flag wave
00:38:00 – astronauts on wires
00:47:15 – footprints / prop rocks
00:49:05 – moon rock or wood
00:51:35 – van allen belt radiation
01:07:55 – did nasa fake footage
01:12:55 – lost apollo 11 tapes
01:19:30 – lost saturn v plans
01:23:00 – the lunar lander’s thin skin
01:27:50 – lunar rover dust
01:29:30 – other photographic evidence
01:37:20 – did anyone else track the missions
01:40:15 – the soviets’ reaction to apollo
01:42:10 – orbital mechanics of apollo
01:51:15 – delta v of apollo
02:04:30 – why haven’t we gone back
02:14:30 – summary
That video doesnt do much.
It’s one guy saying he is debunking while talking about things like those ridiculous videos of the module departing from the moon. Videos that seem not only fabrications, but very cheap fabrications without much effort (they dont even show astronauts entering the spaceship before leaving)
Some guy in Youtube saying that laughable “footage” is real will not dissuade anyone from noticing what’s in front of them.
How do you steer a rocket ship? A rocket moves in 2 directions up and down. When the rocket ship takes off, the
earth’s rotation gives the illusion that the rocket is turning and going down range. You can’t steer a rocket ship.
The theory is they use small booster jets to nudge the rocket here and there. It’s hard to see it being easy to make it an exact steering method though.
And of course ALL of NASA’s previously untested technology worked flawlessly first time when the took it into space.
First and last time in human history technology ever went so smoothly.
The surface of the moon is 250F. Where was the cooling unit located that cooled down the looney lander when it was on the moon for 4 days? Where were the batteries that power it and all the other electronic equipment that was on the moon for 4 days? Did they power the cooling system with 3 “AAA” batteries?
Doesn’t the moon’s surface temperature vary as per the sun’s whims?, Like everywhere else in the solar system. Sometimes hot, and sometimes not so hot…
No. There is no atmosphere on the moon so no convection and no cloud cover. Standing in the sun you would die of heat and going into shadows you would die of cold.
The Apollo suits could not have protected the men from death either from heat or cold or the vacuum of space. In fact you can see in some images that the suits aren’t even pressurized, which, if they were really on the moon, would mean instant death.
The whole thing is a farce. The more you look the more farcical it gets. I used to be a total believer until I looked closely at what the LEM (lunar entry module) is made from. Craft paper and shiny tape stuck on randomly, presumably to cover up holes. Have a look for yourself. Once you see it you know something is very wrong,
I think that was the job of the special “foil” on the lunar lander, which had special insulating properties against extreme hot and cold.
Worst part of the whole experience was living with days worth of piss and shit inside the space suits. I believe Artemis project has plans to build a sort of lunar outhouse for the next sets of astronauts.
The “special” foil was just mylar in layers. And it didn’t cover the entire LEM. Nor did it make up any part of the suits the “astronots” wore.
Did you know there’s not even basic information about whether the LEM was pressurized internally. Different “experts” say it was or it wasn’t. Pretty basic question to have no clear answer don’t you think.
According to NASA, they have used a revolutionary new material that is thin and light but can act as thermal insulation, radiation protection and keeps the air in.
And unlike all the other Apollo technologies that were “lost” or destroyed, this on is amazingly still with us!
It’s called aluminum foil and according to NASA, they used about 14 layers of it and that was enough.
I bet you feel foolish now for doubting our nazi scientists, huh?
This is mostly about the photographs of 69. What if they did go to the moon, but staged the photographs, since the ones they took on the moon were so bad. Or maybe they didn’t feel like photographing on the moon.
If that shower ever go to the moon, my only concern is that they might come back.
Artemis II & Moon Landing 2.0.
It’s now a popular talking point ; however, it was not long ago.
Mr. Davis was awfully condescending in his reply to my comment on his Substack one time.
I dared to mention that moon exploration was a bunch of bollocks;
it seems he may have had a small change of heart.
Just dont mention the shape, that part still is a touchy subject.
Just been listening to the NASA press conference [Friday] (Howard Hu, Judd Frieling etc). The most striking feature of which being the contrast between the Artemis missions and those of Apollo, Primarily in regard to the level of technology involved in the modern mission. Much of it now genuinely mind-blowing.
The difference between a tramp who leaves home with nothing simply to explore / to seek a better world and the modern explorer who leaves equipped with iPhone/laptop/credit card in tow, just in case.
The difference between the great explorers of old on precarious wooden boats and the modern jet-setter.
Which is the more authentic ‘exploration’ who knows, but the contrast could not be greater
…and radio signals are still not able to penetrate the Van Allen Radiation. More proof that the American people have been dumbed down to the point of believing in bullshit.
Not entirely sure from where you made your deductions, but yes radio signals can certainly go through the Van Allen Belt. That’s a given.
And hopefully also arrive with some kinda decent message at the end of it worth bothering with
A coincidence? for me definitely not.
Watch the short clip, it will open your eyes.
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“What happen today has happened before, and what happened before will happen again in the future. There are nothing new under the sun“.
This is Chat GPT’s answer to the perplexing question of changing Artemis II speeds that makes the trip of 638k miles starting at 25k mph slow to long periods of 3,000 mph so it takes 10 days rather than 3 or 4. Gravity, kinetic and potential energy??? Hmmm.
“So they are using engines to slow from 25k mph to 3,000 mph and then to also speed back up as needed?”
Not exactly — most of the speed change is done by orbital geometry, not continuous engine braking.
Key points:
Short answer: TLI burn gives a high peak speed, then coast + gravity cause most of the slowdown and later speedup; engines perform small corrections, not full continuous deceleration from 25k to ~3k mph.
Well gravity is the big one. You may be doing 25000 mph, but if you have a great big planet on your tail, then it’s difficult to avoid its influence.
Bear in mind that the moon itself is held in place by Earth’s gravity. A force to be reckoned with. A tiny spaceship is no contender
Ridiculous. Everybody knows how to get out of earth orbit.
And the Earth disappears physically once you do?
All of the above. Go figure
You seem to have a clue.
Not really.He/she doesn’t even understand how heat works in a vacuum.
I can’t believe Americans are stupid enough to believe this bullsh!t all over again.
When you leave the earth gravity there is no more air resistance, and you practically can fly unlimited velocity on very little diesel. Only when you come into contact with the atmospheres you have to use the brakes, and the different gears.
I guess in all fairness, all I really needed for 9/11 was the “new Pearl Harbor” request in the 2000 PNAC document. Interestingly, Project 2025/Trump are now proceeding with the planned second phase of “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”, with a proposal to raise the budget to 1.5 trillion and cut Medicare, Medicaid and other social service programs from the fed govt. In order to get the public on board, now they’re calling for a “new 9/11”, because you know, Pearl Harbor is so last century.
I wonder why the zionists/neocons want America to have a 1.5 trillion-dollar military, that would not indicate a reduction in global power and transfer to the BRICS. Or maybe it’s the globalists. Or maybe they’re all the same. Seems like a continuation of the “New American Century”.
Put yourself in their (zionist oligarchs) shoes.
They know imperial collapse is coming. They are not trying to stop it (impossible) but they are trying to control the fall.
Printing money is tricky – they don’t want to get hyperinflation too early.
Hence the fear campaign and the cuts in social spending.
The money will be used to build bunkers and buy islands for the oligarchs.
Project 2025 was news blackout on many alt site.
Trump got away warpspeed so he can do anything and some of his fanbase will still endorsed him.
Oops.
“NASA sent piece of wood to the Netherlands.
The Dutch national museum’s investigation revealed that a supposed moon rock from the Apollo 11 mission was actually a piece of petrified wood. This discovery was made after the museum’s curator Xandra van Gelder conducted an investigation that confirmed the rock’s authenticity as a fake. The museum will keep the piece as a curiosity, despite its historical significance and the curiosity it generated. The investigation was supported by advanced X-ray analysis methods, which provided 3D images and compositional analysis of the sample. The museum had previously vetted the moon rock with a phone call to NASA, which confirmed the possibility of the Netherlands receiving a rock from the prime minister’s collection.”
Neil Armstrong claimed he carried a rock from space till the moment he gave it to the president of Egypt. They tested it and found it to be petrified redwood. It’s all a lie.
That’s why Neil needed to have a strong arm.
And a minor in theater.
And be a B- student and drop out of college to “go to the Moon”.
Yes, it turns out that our most famous virile astronot was selected for his proficiency in acting.
“Is it at all relevant they’re launching on April Fools Day?”
What a provocative tabloid type of question.
Obviously you are not in the know therefore you don’t know they already missed one launch window (celestial bodies must be in a proper constellation).
Of course, you can exercise your freedom of speech, although a wise one, who is not in the know prefers to suspend his judgment in such cases.
OffGuardian- because facts really should be sacred has written:
“Of course, it’s commonly held – and the number of people who believe it seems to be growing – that no one has ever gone to the moon before…” (my emphasis)
Are you not ashamed using such a propaganda language….”seems”, “commonly held” ?
Do you have any support whatsoever for your claim “seems to be growing” ???
Even if you are right that actually means nothing since we are living in a post-truth world and people are full of false beliefs.
Regarding Van Allen belt, radiation and shielding, things that people in general don’t understand.
Stopping Power! Why Radiation Shielding Is More Than Just Lead Bricks.
How did they power the looney lander cooling system on the surface of the moon where the temperature is 250F? The batteries must have been the size of a mini van. Where were they located on the looney lander? Were they in the basement next to the pool table and big screen TV?
See? My government is always a secure card!
Two can play at that game.
The Moon Landing Hoax: Evidence That We Never Went to the Moon
Repeating the same old lies doesn’t make them true.
What some people or many people or the Flat Earth Society believe or suspect is totally irrelevant considering the truth. Beliefs are not evidence. A carpet, a number, and a boy’s sweater in Kubrick’s The Shining is not evidence, or saying that Kubrick was a genius.
There’s no evidence and no logic in this poorly made act.
Stop prattling on about the truth, you don’t know what happened in 1969 – you weren’t anywhere near Apollo Eleven when it took- off at the Kennedy Space Centre, on the 16th of July, you are just repeating what other have posted on websites, as am I.
No one mentioned the flat earth, what has that to do with it? unless you are using it in a derogatory sense, to smear those who who have real concerns that – no one went to the moon in 1969.
How big were the batteries that powered the A/C unit in the looney lander while it was on the surface of the moon, for 4 days, where the temperature reaches 250F? Did they use Ever ready “D” cell batteries? Space travel would not be possible without the use of the television.
Check out section 2 about the batteries.
Apollo 11: Deconstructing the false Communications, Tracking, Power and Logistics claimed by the ‘Moon landing’ using NASA’s own documentation. Apollo 11 narrative eviscerated.
Thanks RoS – brilliant analysis. I followed most of it because I was a radio ham in the 1960s. So, what I suspected – it was a simulation, very clever and clearly would have been needed anyway for a real mission. So they just went with the Plan B sim because Plan A was impossible. Plus outcome with benefits!
Love the crew selection. A Black one, a White one and one with bit of Shite on. Gotta love diversity, hey. They even chose some old overweight Sheila, 47 allegedly. At her age she probably has to wear glasses, to read the screen on the rocket, but hey, they have selected the “cream of the crop” here.
It’s a meme.
The actor-nauts.
The Astro-nots.
The Astro-noughts
Hey why are you sexist?
The guys are 50 to 53 year olds. And all of them were selected into the astronot program when they were ~35yo, retiring from a different job (some pilots, some politicians).
So, 4 people, everyone older than any professional athlete, are the cream of the crop when it comes to the most important (and expensive!) space mission of the last 50 years.
Let’s see you conspiracy theorists question that!
List of Indian space agency satellites including lunar probes.
https://www.isro.gov.in/SpacecraftMissions.html#
It doesn’t prove a thing – all it does is show us that probes have reached the moon, hell probes have reached Pluto, and Voyager One and Two are now a long way away.
The same goes for your 9.48am comment – but keep them coming if nothing else they add weight to the idea – that probes reach places but not humans….especially not in 1969.
On the contrary, it proves, firstly, these nations have the technology to send a probe to the moon via a rocket plus Celestial mechanics and return it, secondly, it demonstrates that probes have been landed on the moon and returned with samples.
Nevertheless, you still have not provided any peer reviewed scientifically researched papers to support unequivocally the notion of yet another of a line of ” theories” emanating from here.
I look forward to reading them when you find them.
List of Chinese probes sent to the moon.
https://www.spacecentre.co.uk/news/space-now-blog/chinese-lunar-exploration-program/
In the link they claim to have collected 1,7 kg of lunar material and brought home.
Beat that one America! Not even Wernher von Braun could have done that.
Oh, there is no claim, they returned with it.
By the way was Wernher using a clipboard when he arrived in the US ?
No, Similar, No, No, Yes
To the non-scientist and savages Science appears as Magic…
To the idiots, lies appear as religion.
I dont care if you call me idiot. I believe in it.
I can’t believe people are down-voting this, basically a restating of Clarke’s 3rd Law.
“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. “
Maybe they object to being called ‘non-scientists’, or more likely, to be
characterised as ‘savages’ … Some Mother Do Have ’em !
Yeah, I suspect “savage” may be the operative term here, but the typical savage is acutely aware of his world in ways that most moderns can scarcely comprehend.
“Trust the science.” Science works like magic as well when it isn’t questioned.
Because Clarke is full of shit.
Most “primitive” people have an incredibly advanced understanding of the physical world and are able to adapt to any new tech.
See the headhunters in Borneo that have joined the western civ and became helicopter pilots or engineers.
On the contrary, is the “hothouse people” – the retards that grew with food from the store and the education from TV/computers that have no idea how science works and are eager to buy the stupidest lies from their masters (“dog ate all our documentation, recordings and blueprints”).
Clarke is on top of it, 100 % right, nor does he separate primitives and moderns; he’s simply observed the human species.
FWIW, I already made your point in the post just above.
I wish Off Guardian would write more about this.
I dont know if moon landings were real, I certainly doubt. More information totally welcome
They don’t actually write about it, they make a series of provocative questions without any serious attempt of evidence or research to demonstrate the validity of them !
Like I’ve said before you can link to as many websites as you like and claim its “evidence” but that’s all it is – a link to a website that claims we’ve been to the moon – there are so many folk like you out there, that utterly swallows the official narrative that we went to the moon in 1969 – and that the websites version of the science proves this.
Off-Guardian gives us an open perspective of what might have happened, its not a unique perspective as other sites do this as well, however they keep an open mind – on many subjects, which is invaluable in this day and age of corruption and deceit.
“Off-Guardian gives us an open perspective of what might have happened..”
Here is a sample from the article,
“But does that make this new moon mission more likely to be fake than the previous ones, or less?..”
And their evidence for this is…
” What do you guys think?..”
It seems, solid scientific proof, research, evidence is no where to be found in this article.
If it is please point it out !
I keep repeating myself – that you have posted links to sites that claim humans went to the moon, and in return you’ve have become more frantic in posting more links, its as if you, think the more you post links on it, that somehow some of us will suddenly believe humans actually went to the moon in 1969.
Remember you posting info that other people have written on sites – and you believe it be true, because you believe the science or the science they have told you to be true.
Yet you refuse or refute any alternative evidence that we didn’t go to the moon in 1969 – such as the link below posted by a commentor in here yesterday.
Apollo 11: Deconstructing the false Communications, Tracking, Power and Logistics claimed by the ‘Moon landing’ using NASA’s own documentation. Apollo 11 narrative eviscerated.
Have ever wondered on, that NASA needs constant success to keep it funding going – and to make America appear as though its if not ahead of the game on space then at least close to the top.
Also for the sceptics like me – the Artemis II mission was cancelled and rescheduled for April – nice timing for a head turner away from the illegal war on Iran – of course the usual tech problems were quoted by NASA for the delay.
You cannot rationally convince a true believer.
I know, I was one – when someone would point me to evidence like you do, I would get angry and yell.
Especially as the empire collapses, expect MORE people to worship at the altar of technocracy and its idols (Apollo, AI etc).
Sorry but human nature is a bitch.
People would think far more rationally if they never talked to other people, because their model would be Nature itself.
The urge to belong to the believing/non-believing group is very, very strong.
So his posting links is wrong. But your posting links is right. Check.
My point is and I’ve made it clear on several occasions is that posting links – that supposedly show we did or didn’t go to the moon are ultimately just links for or against – I’m a moon landing denier, and a Climate Changer denier, see how the denier handle is used in a derogatory fashion – there’s no such derogatory term for those who believe the official narrative.
Anyway I’m digressing from your point, you believe what you want to believe.
We must forthwith invent a handle for those who believe the official narrative.
I suggest, “Reality denier”.
Just in case you missed it the first time, please point out in the OG article where is the solid scientifically researched papers to support the
” But does this make this new moon mission more likely to be fake than the previous ones. ”
Now, if you can’t find it, just admit it!
“Solid Scientific research”
Wow!
That’s some claim from someone who wasn’t present at the launch of 1969 Apollo 11 take-off, oh that’s right you are relying utterly on what you have been told, or read online
I take it then you can’t find it because it doesn’t exist.
To paraphrase Keynes, everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts.
You’re doing the Lord’s work, RoS.
Open-minded?
Believing in the theory of no man on the moon that has been debunked over and over all over the internet. Asking questions that have been answered over and over, never bothering to actually see the answers. Deciding in advance that all is fake.
Claiming their side is winning in this war of beliefs and opinions without any evidence.
Not caring about truth at all.
And why exactly is this theory real? Because of songs, movies, and journalistic stories, where journalists claim they have a better understanding of physics and science than actual scientists.
And if everything is fake or AI, is there anything that is real?
Not caring about the truth, well, I wouldn’t be posting in here if I didn’t care about the truth
Claiming whose side is winning in what war? elaborate please.
No man on the moon theory has been debunked on the internet…hmmm, or so you believe.
Absolutely, preach!
Your argument is that you would rather believe a lie then live in a world where your dear pedophile zionist oligarch leaders don’t love you and care for you.
Some of us grew up.
Precisely !
One of the problems here is that many people are putting on a white coat and calling themselves “scientific experts”, while those who should have oversight over quality control in scientific personnel are often invisible when they are most needed.
To answer your last question, the subtle and increasingly rare art of distinguishing one thing from another is still crucial.
Its because OffG knows all the wise guys are out there there there.
” Its because OffG knows all the wise guys are out there there there. “
t paraphrase Shakespeare said the OG doth protest too much, methinks,’
OffG open up for discussions among We the People, and among us there are also wise guys who can distinguish one thing from another or provide decent links to same, no?
We are not all Gyro Gearloose, but there are tryings in between. Its not all that bad.
You are right on the money. I am surprised your intelligent comments get through.
As Keynes apparently said “You are entitled to your own views, but you are not entitled to your own facts.”
Great analysis of both sides here: https://swprs.org/the-moon-landing-debate/
All you have to do is READ FOR YOURSELF WHAT NASA SAYS.
Here is a good compilation: https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/
Forget about the pictures and other subjective things.
Ask this: Since the Apollo missions are the biggest achievement ever of the human race, how come everything related to it is either “lost”, “forgotten” or destroyed.
Here is a short list:
Its a new subject for them, so give them time to learn about it.
No, both bogus, no, no, probably.
I don’t know much about rocket-propulsion and heat-deflection up yonder in the Van-Allen Belt region of space, but I will suggest that I personally, would have felt a whole lot better and more confident if this latest venture wasn’t scheduled for 1 April, and there were a few more gigantic rocket-propulsion thingamebobs bolted onto the sides of that rocket-ship.
My surviving two-neorons inform me that that particular rocket-ship doesn’t appear to have enough propulsion-boosters to do [even] half the distance being spoken about. Besides, Von Braun seemed to suggest that getting a man to the moon was not going to be possible – due to the sheer amount of boost-fuel required to achieve it and the added risk of the radiation the ‘vehicle’ and the life-on-board would have to undergo. So, based on the previous years of BS about ‘moon-landings’ – I would posit that the US Administration is engaging in everything possible that can be used to deflect from their ensuing ecomic bankruptcy and the Trump-dilemma’ … I mean, based on all that is happening on the geopolitical-front, how can one ignore the bleedingly obvious – that the POTUS is totally off with the fairies and is being manipulated by whomever it is pulling his strings.
A dancing astronauts tiktok would be cool, and credible, but the Iranian troll vids have totally drowned out this ludicrous big reveal matinée
The pioneers of space flight and exploration.
THE SOVIET MANNED LUNAR PROGRAM
https://newspaceeconomy.ca/2025/10/13/how-rockets-are-propelled-in-space-a-simple-explanation/?amp=1
It’s up there now, getting ready for an injection burn. Doesn’t anybody have a telescope? I mean, somebody who is skeptical. Where are they? Don’t you people know anybody who has the ability to check on this? Or do you only know internet-typers who don’t know anything and can’t do anything? That’s depressing.
Alas, it is easier to wallow in the it’s all fake line rather than produce factual concrete scientific reviewed published evidence.
Peer reviewed evidence has in some cases been compromised, such as Big Pharma funding clinical trials and their peer reviewed results.
Peer Reviewed doesn’t now carry the weight it once did in validation
Not in SOME cases – in all cases.
Read about Epstein’s involvement in the peer review process (Maxwell)
Or listen to a real scientist (Rupert Sheldrake) that is dismissed even though he did hundreds of repeatable, standardized experiments on homing birds (and other subjects).
Or read about statins, ozempic, the jab and so on.
Fine. But your observations are a diversion. Why don’t you go get a telescope and start investigating? What about all those computer geeks. Why aren’t they investigating while it happens? Instead of waiting until it’s over and then whining that it didn’t happen.
Are you guys all paid trolls?
You cannot prove a negative.
Why don’t YOU answer why NASA lost EVERYTHING related to the most IMPORTANT ACHIEVEMENT OF THE HUMANKIND?
” Not in SOME cases – in all cases.”
Right, here is your chance to illustrate where in these selection of published papers relating to Space flight they have been compromised.
AIAA Aerospace Research Central
I hope you are paid for pushing distractions ALL THE TIME.
Why did NOBODY went higher than 400 miles for 50 years after the MOST SUCCESSFUL, MOST SAFE, MOST ADVANCED space mission of all time (Apollo)?
Why ALL THE TECH from Apollo is lost or destroyed? US is still using airplanes designed in 1952 but immediately after they cancelled Apollo, they started working on the shuttle because “they lost the technology”.
And how come nobody is using aluminum foil anymore to cover spaceships? It worked so well for Apollo, they never had problems with heat, cold, radiation or micrometeorites.
Go away, bot.
Talking of injection burn and the jab, the Artemis rocket from a distance looks like a hypodermic syringe.
” Peer reviewed evidence has in some cases been compromised, “
Indeed, this was evident in push to pass emergency legislation for these Covid drugs, however in this case, please illustrate from these published papers relating to Space flight and exploration where they have been compromised.
AIAA Aerospace Research Central
Beep boop, AI prompt “inject distraction number 345, tout de suite”.
Just as a reminder, we are still being told that there were 6 successful moon landings in less than four years, July 1969 – December 1972.
It was obviously much easier back in the good old days, when men were men and all that amazing technology and machinery was made in the US of A, engineered by real americans.
And let us not forget when women were women… in the bra factory making those lovely,truly fabulous astronaut costumes.
Yes, those were the days: https://yandex.ru/video/preview/17729376641803230453
Fine. Now prove this one wrong while it is happening. It should be easier to prove it wrong while it is happening. Or non-happening. Get to work instead of opining.
As we all know, the Moon was much closer to the Earth in those times.
The day was also shorter though so I have to wonder how did they accomplish so much?
There is no space. There are no aliens. We are ruled by a gang of thieves who have enslaved us. There is no justice. There’s just us. Now let’s deal with that.
Might they not all exist simultaneously? The existence of one not precluding that of another. Seems reasonable.
There certainly is justice. The rabid psychos enslaving us and messing up the planet definitely cannot go anywhere else and mess up that place too. Meanwhile, ordinary US people will keep paying for these scams.
There is no justice with a corrupt judiciary. One day we will have justice but it takes time, effort and focus.
*Many* gangs of thieves but otherwise I agree.
Of course we did it before, what are you a commie pinko subversive?
It took only 3 days to get there and Apollo was the most successful series of missions ever – with no deaths aside from the weird one during “testing” when 3 astronauts were burned in a capsule with the walls so thin you could punch through with a screwdriver (according to NASA engineers). Of course one of those guys called Apollo a “lemon” so he kind of deserved it, don’t you think?
My question is this: since we know that there are 6 Saturn V rockets lying around, plus the LEM, the module etc, why not refuel them and go back the old way?
It was extremely safe (see above), much faster than today and dirt cheap – we only need the fuel.
For those true believers out there, here is a lot of good info compiled straight from the horse’s (NASA) mouth: centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/
That should give you plenty of info to silence those conspiracy theorists that believe our pedophile zionist overlords would ever lie to us.
The past is past. This is happening right now. Where is you link that proves it isn’t happening now?
” when 3 astronauts were burned in a capsule with the walls so thin you could punch through with a screwdriver (according to NASA engineers). “
Evidence and names of ” NASA engineers ” !
It’s all in the plans for the capsule.
Whoops, those were lost and now all we have is NASA engineers interviews and Discovery channel docos that you can dismiss as “unofficial”.
Go away, bot.
Now to the real subject this article is trying to hide. US and the Epstein Democracy is loosing the battle for world dominance.
If everybody had listened to what I said 20 years ago, the West could still have gone strong. Now it is too late boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhTJTm8mo6Y