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Money for Nothing

Niall McCrae

British people are glum and grumbling after Rachel Reeves’ budget, but what did they expect? They should know by now that government is an extortion racket.

While many voters regret their decision in last year’s general election, die-hard Labour supporters continue to make excuses: Tory mismanagement and Brexit ruined the economy. Daily Mail readers, meanwhile, have been told that the budget has taken from hard-working families to give to benefit claimants.

This is exactly what the powers-that-be want people to believe, not only as the old divide-and-rule strategy, but because society needs to understand that jobs are disappearing rapidly, and the future is basic universal income and total dependence on the state.

The looming technocracy has no use for the majority of the workforce. Data and distribution centres will be run by robots. Artificial intelligence will rise through the occupational strata to replace professional practitioners such as lawyers and doctors.

Call it new technology
And they use it to burn
And they show no concern
Work for their prosperity
While the big wheels turn
Now it’s too late to learn
Don’t upset the teacher
Though we know he lied to you
Don’t upset the preacher
He’s gonna close his eyes for you

And it’s a shame
That you’re so afraid
Just a worker waiting in the pouring rain
Putting back the pieces of a broken dream

Father worked in industry
Now the work has moved on
And the factory’s gone
See them sell your history
Where once you were strong
And you used to belong
There was once a future
For a working man
There was once a lifetime
For a skillful hand – yesterday

Prophetic words by the band Erasure, back in 1986. But most people do not heed the warnings, preferring to shoot the messenger.

A talented OffGuardian writer, Todd Hayen, has decided to stop writing due to the abusive responses to his latest article on the persistent faith of citizens in government and in official narratives. He used the term ‘sheep’ for the easily herded folk who take the vaccines and believe in the scripted saviours and bogeymen.

Funny how the same people can be utterly convinced that their own pet catastrophes—Trump returning to power, climate change, systemic racism, white supremacy, overpopulation, or the rise of the far right—are existential threats that will end life as we know it unless we surrender every freedom immediately to stop them. But mention digital id, central bank digital currencies, vaccine passports, social credit systems, or the creeping transhumanist agenda, and suddenly you’re the paranoid one wearing a tinfoil hat.

The threats to humanity are – or at least should be – emphatically clear. A digital prison is being built around us, with the implicit consent of the ‘sheep’, who still think that technology will solve our problems. Convenience, security and efficiency are prized over meaningful social interaction, privacy and freedom. As Hayen explained, this delusion was primed long ago:

Most of them have been psychologically and educationally groomed for decades to believe that socialism, Marxism, or outright communism are not only benign but morally superior. ‘From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs’ sounds noble when you’ve never watched the state decide what your needs actually are. They think communism is free healthcare, student-debt forgiveness, and government UBI cheques. They have no idea it’s secret police at 3 a.m., neighbours denouncing neighbours for extra bread rations, gulags, re-education camps, forced confessions, and a boot stamping on a human face—forever.

I am no less against global corporate capitalism and fascism as I am of leftist totalitarianism, but merely a minority of critical thinkers see through the Left versus Right paradigm. Ask a progressive liberal student whether she’d expect a fascist government to give free money to everyone in society, of whatever colour or creed, and she’d probably scoff at such a ridiculous notion. Welfare is a thing of the Left – that’s how younger generations are taught to love Big Brother.

Britons are led to believe that the government will always be there as a safety net, when the jobs are gone. Therefore, they don’t threaten aa uprising on the throwing of taxpayers’ money at Ukraine or on the perpetual influx – a million every year – of immigrants whose cheap labour will be a temporary pursuit.

The budget is misunderstood by the majority as a giveaway to the workshy. It is really setting the scene for digitally-controlled UBI, and everything else is a sideshow. Or as Erasure called it, ‘The Circus’.

Niall McCrae is a social commentator and an officer iof the Workers of England trade union. He was previously a senior lecturer in mental health at King’s College London. His books include The Moon and Madness (2012), Echoes from the Corridors (with Peter Nolan, 2016), Moralitis: a Cultural Virus (with Robert Oulds, 2020) and Green in Tooth and Claw: the Misanthropic Mission of Climate Alarm (2024).  He writes regularly for The Light newspaper.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
Dec 11, 2025 1:54 PM

There will be no UBI. Total collapse of the economy and the state itself are coming.

SimonO
SimonO
Dec 9, 2025 6:47 PM

I don’t know if it’s just the sheer anger or insults he must’ve been facing or it’s the apparent situation that there are clearly so many sheep out there, that the rest of us can only watch as we all sleepwalk (or sheepwalk😫) into our prison, just like in so many sci-fi novels and movies we now hope were just sci-fi.

Maybe all of the above made Hayen quit writing, but I’m sure I’m not the only one here who thinks his articles are the kind of content we come to this site for. They are just as important now as they were yesterday. Especially because of those sheep.

Authors on this site are my personal heroes. They have showed me repeatedly what the problem is with my thinking. (just as long as my intention is to find the truth, not be led by my nose and not be dragged into stupid, pointless debates about nothing) and how to see through the manipulation. This is what everyone promises by the way! Lefists, rightists, flat Earters, vegans, all of them promise we can see through the lies if we just do as they do.

I stil do pointless debates, because I don’t just want to copy the behaviour of my heroes, I want to understand what I’m doing, so I can arrive at the same conclusions, solutions.

Anyway, this is just one of the reasons why OffG is so valuable to me. Developing an analytical attitude, less emotional and more rational. Todd Hayen plays a large part in that, and I know I’m not alone.

I hope he can forget those toxic people. They’re sheep. And apparently they hate their own mirror images much more than whatever they’re trained to be outraged about.

Hope we will see you again soon, Hayen!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 9, 2025 8:03 PM
Reply to  SimonO

Well I would think such heroes would live on in, at least in some form or other. Often reincarnated it would seem…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 10, 2025 2:54 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Well, some are waiting in vain for number three set of teeth. They wonder why, because they sinned in this life. They were sinners!

Then there are people who get the number three set of teeth, but nobody can see it nor know they got it.
They just continue to look adults but young, and their surroundings never live long enough to see them ‘die’ meaning live..

Why did they get number three set of teeth? Because they refused to sin!
You call these people reincarnated to neutralise this division in mankind and to not upset Simon and Co.
They are there, walking among us.  😶  .

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 8, 2025 5:09 AM

“Reports also show a surge in asylum claims lodged by students after they enter the UK on lawful visas. Pakistani nationals now account for one in 10 of all asylum applications, with over 5,800 switching from student visas alone — more than India and Bangladesh combined. Overall, nearly 10,000 Pakistanis last year entered on study, work or visitor visas before seeking asylum.”

Who can blame them: Pounds for nothing.

But taxing for you.

Weegies
Weegies
Dec 7, 2025 8:02 PM

Money for Nothing
seems like a title of a daily mail article.
not far of with what Niall has been told to write.

USURY and banking dynasties no mention of that or
the whole tax scam.

les online
les online
Dec 7, 2025 10:33 AM

Australia’s Mental Health Authorities are bracing themselves for a
tsunami of requests for mental help from Australia’s teens from 10
December when the kids will undergo enforced Cold Turkey from
not being able to have their daily fix of Online Porn…
One Health Official said, on condition of anonymity**, “We expect
there will be mass truancy as the kids skip classes to scour the city
streets begging strangers for a fix. We even expect a few school
buildings will be burnt to the ground.”
One 13 year old girl student said, on condition of anonymity.** “It’s
their fault ! The Adults !! They should have known that forcing us
sweet innocent things to have Sex Education classes when too
young to understand would get us hooked and act as a gateway
drug to watching Online Porn ! They’re adults !! They Should have
known !! Now they deny us our fix – to “protect” us !!”

** Soon to be a thing of the past, for us, but not for Anonymous
government mouthpieces…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:00 PM
Reply to  les online

“When we grow older we will NEVER be as stupid as our parents were, We want change”!

The Real Edwige
The Real Edwige
Dec 7, 2025 9:07 AM

Welfarism was invented by Bismarck, a right-wing freemason, in the 1880s.

Musk’s rebranded UBI Universal High Income.Clearly “basic” isn’t captivating enough! He’s also said having a robot will be like having the best surgeon in the world in your home. Are future operations going to be on the dining room table?

Meanwhile, elsewhere, Albania’s first AI minister proclaims “she” is pregnant:
https://www.euronews.com/next/2025/10/30/albanias-ai-minister-is-pregnant-with-83-digital-assistants-prime-minister-says
The AI “minister” was sold as better than human because it couldn’t be swayed by emotion – then declared itself “hurt” that it wasn’t being taken seriously.
Albania’s PM who supports this, Edvin Rama, is on his fourth term. His father was a sculptor for the communists and his mother related to a member of the old Politburo. Rama’s coalition is ‘centre-left’. There is strong evidence of electoral fraud against him and of course his government has been all in favour of clamping down on on-line freedoms.

les online
les online
Dec 7, 2025 9:53 AM

Bismarck ? Not exactly… Welfarism – aka “looking after each other’ – was
common amongst the working class at the time… Bismarck stole the idea
from them, just as that toff, Lord Sandwich, stole the sandwich idea from
the lower classes… (They’ll steal anything that’s not nailed down)…
Bismarck worried that socialists involved in the welfarism could win too
many seats in the parliament, so like a Politician, he stole the socialists
thunder. In Post-WW2 Australia the bosses backed party introduced
much of Australia’s social security/welfare ideas, and implemented them –
to stay in office, having stolen the policies from the “Worker Friendly”
Labour Party,..
Modern practitioners of “looking after each other” welfarism are the
Muslim Brotherhood – much reviled by the Arab elites…
(Some Christians also still practice it – though they’re likely to call it
‘charity’ – so it wont be tainted with labels like ‘socialism’)…

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:03 PM
Reply to  les online

Precisely correct.

Weegies
Weegies
Dec 7, 2025 8:03 PM

Musk’s rebranded UBI Universal High Income

is now patroen and crypto donations.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 6:54 AM

All that’s required to fund Social Welfare, hospitals, schools and public infrastructure is a two percent tax on all electronic transactions over $100,000.
And forcing Multi National corporations to pay tax would benefit all as well.

antonym
antonym
Dec 7, 2025 2:33 AM

EU targets platforms that refuse to censor free speech – Telegram founder Pavel Durov’s remarks come after Musk’s X was fined over alleged platform rule violations
He was responding to a 2024 post by Elon Musk, the owner of X, who claimed that the European Commission had offered the platform a secret deal to avoid fines in return for censoring certain statements. The EU fined X €120 million ($140 million) the day before.

antonym
antonym
Dec 7, 2025 1:51 AM

Not a word about the endless stream of foreign money seekers into the UK here: quite a feat!

lu1
lu1
Dec 7, 2025 10:17 AM
Reply to  antonym

quite a feat!

No need, it’s all been said before:

https://off-guardian.org/2025/12/05/the-future-of-british-justice-is-horrifying/#comment-744131

   Veri Tas

Dec 6, 2025 9:42 PM

Reply to  aspnaz

…[]…

The countries going down right now are the last vestiges of western-style freedom, and they are being turned into China-style totalitarianism right now. I also think that en route to this development, there will be utter chaos and possibly civil war, as more and more migrants from the developing world are infiltrating these western nations and standards go to shit. At that point, China-style rule will be implemented completely.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:15 PM
Reply to  antonym

Yes all right we admit it. We are here after the money. Because you have too many and because it doesnt matter to you, a little thousand more or less. You will forever have enough.
Therefore we take what is offered to us, open borders and open doors.
The Best made it to the Westcomment image .

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:22 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

The Best make it to the West: comment image

les online
les online
Dec 7, 2025 1:04 AM

“Safe and Effective” morphs into
“No strings Attached (NSA)”. and “Obligation Free Income (OFI)”…
They have a nice ring to them, dont you think ?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 12:23 AM

Nice. Lovely to see someone else understood Mr. Hayen’s very serious and wise warning about our blured future.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
Dec 7, 2025 7:29 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:39 PM
Reply to  Austrian Peter

Yes, they have several good overviews on Global R:
The latest about the war horny socialist leaders of EU. https://www.globalresearch.ca/natos-preemptive-strikes-threat-towards-barbarossa-2-0-how-will-the-kremlin-react/5907830 .
(oohh escuse me excuse me, another word I must’nt say – ‘socialist’).

Weegies
Weegies
Dec 7, 2025 8:06 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Mr. Hayen’s ran away due to comment.
He is hardly example of muscularity.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 10, 2025 2:58 AM
Reply to  Weegies

It was a little more than comment, and absolutely not worth fighting for. Dismissed. Against stupidity the gods themselves fight unvictorious“.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 12:04 AM

Well stated Niall.
We can’t let the bastards grind us down.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
Dec 7, 2025 7:26 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Ha Ha, my motto from 1960 – “Saturday Night and Sunday Morning”.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Dec 6, 2025 11:05 PM

Great article! And….I personally will very much miss Todd. I have pointed out a few times that the chat space is a bleating echo chamber, not always but frequently. I get a lot of abuse too. Keep preaching the truth brother…love it!

Weegies
Weegies
Dec 7, 2025 8:07 PM
Reply to  Scoobis

I have pointed out a few times that the chat space is a bleating echo chamber,

So is Todds woke right articles.

les online
les online
Dec 6, 2025 10:12 PM

It’s mid-morning here in Sydney Australia – 7 December Pearl Harbour day –
and still nothing has happened… I expect “Tora ! Tora ! Tora !” will be shown
on local tv this evening, though there’ll be much competition from the
numerous movies about how The USA Won The War…

kofimoseley
kofimoseley
Dec 6, 2025 9:53 PM

Religion is the only authority above my parents, grandparents and elders. Due to my ascendance to adulthood, the authority of my parents and grandparents and elders has ended. That leaves only my principles.
For me there is no other authority. In this world, there are only criminals and their threats, at this point. It’s exhilarating. The animals in the jungle worry about tigers and leopards. The fish in the sea worry about sharks. For humans today, it’s government.
As a small child, I listened to my parents and grandparents talking about how the government killed president Kennedy and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X almost every time we gathered for the holidays. I listened to all of these college educated people talking about how they struggled to tread water while people who they called criminals ruled us and lived high on the hog.
I concluded then what the shark in the waters was for us humans, and it starts with a G. But it’s cool, life has danger, and freedom isn’t safe. I accept that. The British people could easily get themselves a new forecast. Adults don’t HAVE to do anything.

les online
les online
Dec 6, 2025 9:37 PM

I’m already on a form of UBI – it’s officially called an Old Age Pension**…
I expect, in the coming years, the government will impose Carbon Footprint-based
Rationing (CFR) on me — having successfully trialed it on Australia’s “remote
Communities” as ‘Income Management…

** Taxpayer-funded…

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Dec 6, 2025 9:13 PM

Please explain how Brexit has ruined the economy when it hasn’t actually happened.

kofimoseley
kofimoseley
Dec 6, 2025 9:57 PM

Yeah, I noticed that too. It never actually happened.

hotrod31
hotrod31
Dec 6, 2025 10:59 PM

Perception management is everything … so I would assume that the constant mentions of ‘BREXIT’ this or Brexit that, ad nauseum – appear to be enough for the media to be able to manipulate the fear within the British people. So, the phantom-BREXIT becomes a convenient, bob-each-way boogeyman to be trotted out – when required – to maintain confusion within British/Euro Society.

Scoobis
Scoobis
Dec 6, 2025 11:06 PM

Pesky details…

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 7, 2025 5:01 AM

This is the sort of inconspicuous drops that approved MSM articles use. They work (seep into your mind) if you don’t notice them.

It would be more accurate to say thatthe UK economy is no worse after Brexit. But now, the government waits breathlessly for the next order from Trump on what armaments to buy for whom.

Weegies
Weegies
Dec 7, 2025 8:08 PM

try travelling to europe for longer than 3 months

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Dec 6, 2025 8:53 PM

Universal Basic Income also called Guaranteed Basic Income is coming. It’s been tested around the world;https://globalaffairs.org/commentary/blogs/multiple-countries-have-tested-universal-basic-income-and-it-works. The powers who shouldn’t be are waiting for just the right moment to market and implement it as the way to “resolve” the latest crisis they created (problem-reaction-solution). It is coming soon because their global debt usury based economic system is imploding due to overload and insanity. It is only a matter of time before its imposed upon the comatose masses.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Dec 6, 2025 9:33 PM

I Know it’s here in UK.

People I know have DECIDED not to work because they get more money on UC,

(Universal credit)

You only have to say you’re a bit stressed.

If they have more children/wives they will be even better off.

Read Gibbons.

Cripes !!

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 7, 2025 5:04 AM

Those who stopped working can hardly help noticing that the UK government looks after the most shiftless and violent illegal immigants quite well.

brianborou
brianborou
Dec 7, 2025 5:32 PM

Try and get UC if you are able bodied up to the age of 66 since you will spend a considerable amount of time filling in forms and running between job coaches plus unsuitable part/full time jobs offers due to : physical proximity to it, starting time plus lack of transportation.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 8, 2025 4:12 AM
Reply to  brianborou

Unsuitable also means low pay, heavy workload, mentally or physically intense work, long hours.

“Bread line’s always better than that”. -UB40

brianborou
brianborou
Dec 8, 2025 8:40 PM
Reply to  mgeo

The DWP does’nt give a monkies about any of those reasons if they can force you do it they will.

les online
les online
Dec 6, 2025 9:58 PM

‘Comatose masses’ has a nicer ring to it than ‘sheep / sheeple’ – dont you think ?

Scoobis
Scoobis
Dec 6, 2025 11:07 PM
Reply to  les online

I like the sound of bleating

judith
judith
Dec 7, 2025 12:20 PM

They more or less tested UBI during the cvid lockdowns.
It was called Pandemic Unemployment.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Dec 7, 2025 4:47 PM
Reply to  judith

A few places tested UBI or GBI prior to the “pandemic”. But you are correct, it is all part of a global plot leading up to total technocratic enslavement and privation.

MartinU
MartinU
Dec 6, 2025 7:55 PM

Its a little difficult to explain to people brought up in a world to absolute propaganda that the world they think is out there doesn’t really exist. The world of secret police etc. has absolutely nothing to do with Marxism and everything to do with the society that hosts it. The name might change but the function and methods don’t (a great example of this is how SAVAK changed to VEVAK in Iran after the 1979 revolution — same facilities, (likely) much the same personnel, pretty much the same function).

Marx was just an economist who was active in the middle of the Industrial Revolution in the UK. His philosophical underpinnings drew on the same base of Enlightenment philosophers that influenced people as disparate as the American and French revolutionaries. He merely suggested that maybe the wealth created ultimately by labor needed to be shared around a bit more evenly, nothing particularly radical in that (…read the Bible).

This business in Ukraine is really a Cold War hangover. Europeans have been involved in a Clash of Empires — really, religions — since the beginning of their history and just can’t seem to stop or even recognize that the age of their Empires is truly past. We in the US have a much more pressing problem, the “clear and present’ danger presented by China. The country itself isn’t a threat (we just posture it as such for the ‘rubes) but the fact that it seems to be proving Marx right is an existential threat to our way of life. We’ve built a philosophical edifice on the notion that a socialist society can’t be efficient, prosperous, fair and sustainable — there just cannot be an alternative. Their success would bring our entire imperialist edifice crashing to the ground because it will, unfortunately, be ‘catching’ — lots of the world, the Global South, will see this as the way forward from post-colonialism which will leave us (and particularly Europe) screwed. Now many who read this will talk about ‘freedom’ and write articles about ‘digital prisons’. Freedom starts in being able to eat; the PRC has lifted its population out of poverty even as we’re consigning greater and greater segments of our populations to poverty. When the chips are down much of the rest — the apparatus of oppression — merely arises because people are hungry, cold, miserable and generally fed up. Fix the problem with concrete solutions, not fantasies, and a lot of other issues just go away.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Dec 6, 2025 8:36 PM
Reply to  MartinU

Nice point. All this worry about the digital prison is bourgeois. Eating is what matters to most people. Shelter. Shoes.

kofimoseley
kofimoseley
Dec 6, 2025 10:21 PM
Reply to  Aloysius

I placed not being jabbed above eating, and lost my job. They reversed course later and rehired me at higher pay, but I went to the brink. Live free or die. I’ve had an awesome life and great times with beautiful, slim women of all colors and have found the love of my life. Ain’t no thang to not submit to slavery. I’m not alone.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 12:31 AM
Reply to  Aloysius

All right, so you guys only problem is to get a bowl porridge every day with minimum 1 glass of water.
Next problem is to resolve your dirty habits with a shower and soap yes?

After these big two problems have been resolved in about 50 years, you are prepared and ready to discuss our points of view Sim Senhor?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 12:43 AM
Reply to  MartinU

We know. To lift people out of poverty and hunger is not a question about Marx or Ford.

But Socialism is State sustained contra Family sustained. Divide and conquer the family to make them all work for the Socialist State and its weak and dependent clients.

It has been tried. Both China and Sovjet gave the ideology up to embrace Reagan and etThatcher when they were in.
A mixture of free enterprise and social safety for the bottom seems to work and benefit all.

MartinU
MartinU
Dec 7, 2025 5:47 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Social culture is far more enduring and powerful than mere politics so naturally whatever ‘ism’ is in power adopts the cultural characteristics of that society. This includes all forms of extremism; you always get people who have to turn things up to 11 and if they get to be in power the result is invariably trouble. (One of Lenin’s publications was titled “Left Wing Communism, An Infantile Disorder” — obviously he had his problems with such people!)

Socialism isn’t about replacing families with ‘the state’. That’s a perversion of the ideology. Its all about the primacy of society over the individual but not in the gray, conformist, ‘1984’ sense. Its just that individuals can’t monopolize society and turn it into a vehicle for personal greed, they can’t despoil resources and so on. In a sense its just saying that while a hunter/gatherer mindset might give great yields in the short term an agrarian mindset is the only one that’s sustainable.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Dec 7, 2025 6:15 AM
Reply to  MartinU

Doesn’t work – Leninism/socialism. Tried and tested in the 20th century. Leads to a bunch of strangers forced to dwell in the same communal property. As opposed to the basic privacy that private property brings.

Also doesn’t work in the basic question of who should clear up the mess. The State or the individual. It’s a failed philosophy. Better ditched

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 7, 2025 6:56 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Thank God we have capitalism which is working out so well.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:42 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Worked out very well.
For the 1% and their underlings.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Competition works out well! Monopoly whether it capitalist or socialist not!

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:44 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Hierarchies always fail.
That’s why Mother Nature doesn’t do them.
Extinction being the end result.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:52 PM
Reply to  MartinU

You know both sides fail!
The right bring in too much privatisation and trust in the private initiative and greed, and the left bring it all stocked in inertia and micro management.

If you take the scandinavian wefare states as an example, you will see a pattern of leftist governments driving society down with too much spending and power quarrels between the commie fractions.
After socialist periods the right side come in and clean up the mess the socialist’s have made. If the right sits there too long we get into too much capitalism too.
I agree that certain important society features must be public; post office, train, etc, etc.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:40 AM
Reply to  MartinU

China ain’t paradise, but it sure beats living in a rat infested, drugs on the streets, police patrolled, human hell hole that is many USian ghettos.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:55 PM
Reply to  Johnny

What have you against Philadelphia? Have Philadelphia ever done anything to you?

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 8, 2025 4:15 AM
Reply to  Johnny

One visiting couple reported (on utube) trying their best fo find litter in a big city. They say they failed.

Cloudster
Cloudster
Dec 6, 2025 7:43 PM

The sad part is that Tod Hayden stopped writing because of abuse. This is exactly what “they” want – divide and conquer. It’s a shame the keyboard warriors (which may well not even be real humans) get the upper hand.

les online
les online
Dec 6, 2025 9:41 PM
Reply to  Cloudster

The government should crack-down on online abuse…

Paul
Paul
Dec 7, 2025 9:17 PM
Reply to  les online

The government should go f itself.

landy
landy
Dec 6, 2025 7:35 PM

Or as Erasure called it, ‘The Circus’.

The same pervs, who helped make gay cool.

The circus is a masonic term.
the tophat circle square – shape of the circus is all masonic.
it was them who created this performance.
2 fags singing about a circus is clueless of what is being said by the mugs.
the mugs someone easily fooled or naive,is there name for you.

Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey, as the Ringling brothers themselves were Freemasons, and many circus figures, like performers and ringmasters, have been involved with Masonic lodges and the Shriners (a Masonic-affiliated organization), using circus skills for charity and community, linking showmanship with fraternal service.

They visited towns and cities and guess what was happening when they used to visit?
Erasure is the outcome.
it is absolutely disgusting. Andy bell (like that is a real name, not some filth of a name)

# Welfare is a thing of the Left – that’s how younger generations are taught to love Big Brother.

I have never meant anyone on social security who loves the government and is happy with there situation on the dole,

If reposting is a job, as your paid using patreon, then sitting on your lazy ass reposting propaganda as alternative news is a form of IBS, I mean UBI,

Paul
Paul
Dec 7, 2025 9:19 PM
Reply to  landy

UBI recipients more likely to have IBS. I reckon. Free cash for the feckless. The communist playbook.

John Manning
John Manning
Dec 6, 2025 7:29 PM

Where Hayen and now McCrae have gone wrong is to conflate the over-reach of Government regulators with the existence of socialism and capitalism. The two areas of politics are entirely independent.

My gauge for Governments uses average wage as the measure. Some Governments now hide this statistic. Which is very telling. My thinking is based on the concept that “democratic” Government should have as its primary goal, increasing the wellbeing of the population.

Between 2000 and 2022. Increases in average wage, China 2000%, Russia 250%, Western Europe 70%. There is also a more informative statistic. Increase in average wage versus increase in GDP. That is how much of wealth growth gets shared. China 2.5, Russia 0.63, Western Europe 0.28. (Data sourced from UN monitoring agencies.)

There will always be regulations. It’s because there is Government. Any type of Government can go too far. But do they have your wellbeing as their goal?

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 7, 2025 5:12 AM
Reply to  John Manning

Western Europe 70%
That should be adjusted for inflation.

Mean national income is meaningless for a family that cannot afford the bare essentials.

Thom
Thom
Dec 6, 2025 6:59 PM

While many voters regret their decision in last year’s general election”

How do we know that, except from the same polling organisations and their media paymasters who hyped up Starmer in the first place (and indeed Johnson at the previous general election), and laid the excuses for the deep state to manipulate the election? The media representation of voters or groups of voters is itself propaganda – people I have talked politics with over the years either weren’t interested in politics at all or didn’t change their party allegiances that quickly. The idea that suddenly British voters have turned on Starmer is simply projection by the powers-that-be.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 12:56 AM
Reply to  Thom

I am against this unloading adult’s responsibility for themselves and their co-responsibility for their society to TPTB, the King, the President, the Politicians, m.m.

You say it yourself, that most people just vote for the party they always have voted for.
People care for their own needs and not society’s need. Therefore they are to blame too.

eccentric
eccentric
Dec 6, 2025 5:26 PM

A known problematic censor of comments on his Substack came to this site and had several articles published. Smion emlo

After 7/7, this known author got an article published called “The H********* Industry.”
This known problematic censor of comments on his Substack went apeshit mental that a few comments, in an eloquent, friendly, non-aggressive manner, disagreed with his “The H********* Industry” article.
He got the article retracted, which seemed like an agenda narrative at the time, as this had never happened on this site before.
Then he went on his Substack and wrote articles calling OffGuardian and its commentators anti -Septics
OG let him back, and he then had another hissy fit episode not long after.

It’s disappointing that OG has allowed an article to come through which is based on lies, proclaiming the commentators are dangerous, and Todd left due to this.

abusive responses 

Which is complete and utter bullshit.

This is the type of agenda narrative that MSM uses to usher in new reforms for the government.

You’re using the same agenda narratives and it is very disrespectful towards your commentators who visit and donate towards this site to make out that authors are in danger writing for this site due to the DANGEROUS commentators=abusive responses.

eccentric
eccentric
Dec 6, 2025 5:28 PM
Reply to  eccentric

As another point out.
Of course you are going to your Substack (and his Utube), where you can control comments and receive only praise.
And, of course you say one thing but do another. Todd writes how you have zero problem with criticism toward what he write, but that is not true. Repeatedly hes been calling such criticism as hate or ad hominem, and critics are just mean, frustrated sheep and they should go away. He dehumanize humans, and that’s his problem.

underground poet
underground poet
Dec 6, 2025 6:42 PM
Reply to  eccentric

Back in the early days of blogging like in 05, this behavior was called fight club. I think they lost so many fighters that the club mostly disbanded and a few wound up in places like this.

Its no more dangerous than waking up in the morning and trusting your local gvt, that’s where the real big action takes place.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 6, 2025 4:44 PM

Recently in the US, a blog post has gone “viral”, and mainstream is talking about it, which puts the poverty line at $140K per year. The analysis includes adding up the typical costs for childcare, housing, food, transportation, health care, and other essentials, and claims that the median household income of around $83K actually means living in poverty.

That’s one thing (not the only) that bothers me about the prospect of UBI, I just don’t see how it can possibly work. The notion that the government, thru taxes (from people that do actually work) and stealing the robot’s salaries (assuming the rich let that happen), can provide enough income to support millions of people not working seems ludicrous. Sure, providing a couple thousand a month will help people out, but in no way does that provide a living wage to replace a decent job and income. So how are people supposed to survive without jobs on UBI when it would have to be far below the poverty line? It’s impossible. Not only that, it just seems like pie in the sky bullshit similar to Trump and his controllers’ tariff scheme that simply won’t work.

What we do know is that our governments are controlled by and for the rich and almost everything that happens is for their benefit. That’s a given and actually been proven analytically in the US (2014 Princeton study proving the US is an oligarchy, not a democracy). I have no doubt the digital prison will continue to unfold and enfold, but I doubt very much this UBI thing is anything more than a carrot to dangle in front of the “sheep” to hold them at bay while they do their thing.

Kieran Telo
Kieran Telo
Dec 6, 2025 5:35 PM
Reply to  Big Al

The arithmetic works quite well, I would think, if you adjust the population downward first. 15 minute cities for the PMC, dominated by touchy feely girl boss HR types, who administer the apparatus which crushes the rest of us. Teleworking from New Gaza, might as well.

MartinU
MartinU
Dec 6, 2025 6:30 PM
Reply to  Big Al

The $140K level sounds about right for where I live. This rather ridiculous number represents how much it would cost for a family coming in ‘cold’ — just an income, without family or other assets — would need to stay afloat in an average house. (You could only afford to live on $83K here if you already had a house.) Its not a reflection of greed but rather an indication of how fiscally unbalanced our society has become (and, to say the quiet part out loud, how much the dollar’s intrinsic value has declined).

I think the numbers won’t be that much different in London.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 6, 2025 10:38 PM
Reply to  MartinU

TPTB don’t want us in houses! They want us in bedsitter-sized cubby holes, stack up on top of one another and located in enclaves called smart cities.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 7, 2025 5:17 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

That was tried out in Tokyo long ago. Many Hong Kong couples and families still live like that, though there are plans..

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:46 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

‘Work, shop, eat, sleep and leave us in charge.’

judith
judith
Dec 7, 2025 12:30 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Well, I suppose we’ll be able to afford their 15 minute smart cities, where we’ll be told how much “energy” we can use in our homes and our lives.
Air conditioning during certain months and only at given temps. Hot water showers at a certain temp and only for a given duration.
No dishwashers, no clothes dryers.
Just the basics. A roof over your head and your digital ID which you will use for everything. Credit at the company store, as CAF says.
It will be fine.
You will own nothing and you will be happy.

Hail
Hail
Dec 6, 2025 4:26 PM

A talented OffGuardian writer, Todd Hayen, has decided to stop writing due to the abusive responses????????????????????????????????????

complete woke right lies.

if anyone else had a comment or 2 that did not praise then out of the 100s of other that do, you would call them woke and cry babys and need a safe space.

My frav comment on the subject,

Human values
Dec 1, 2025 3:28 PM

 Reply to  Todd Hayen
You think your life has been threatened because someone on the internet was very upset with what you wrote. Get real! A European commenting on a site does not threaten your life.
Instead of addressing the issue, you reacted by ignoring it and making a ridiculing comment about the other. Instead of conversation, you react as if you’ve been attacked.
That is typical behavior of the ego. The ego is fragile, yet it tries to impress others by appearing as superior, making snarky comments, deflecting, not caring about others or their feelings.
The ego is narcissistic, and it cannot handle criticism. Everyone else can be criticized, blamed and demonized, those others the ego sees as enemies, but the ego itself or its faults must not be criticized, as anything pointing to its faults is considered a personal attack. It thinks its life is threatened if anything goes against its faulty self-image.
Of course you are going to your Substack, where you can control comments and receive only praise.
And, of course you say one thing but do another. You write how you have zero problem with criticism toward what you write, but that is not true. Repeatedly you’ve been calling such criticism as hate or ad hominem, and critics are just mean, frustrated sheep and they should go away. You dehumanize humans, and that’s your problem.
As the narcissistic ego is a hypocrite, a coward, not trustworthy, egotistical and not cured but sick, Cured was right about something. But the ego doesn’t care about what’s right.
The ego is narcissistic and always in competition. It wants to win. So it can play the victim to gain sympathy, followers and admiration. The narcissistic ego is also known as false self. It is against and the opposite of the True Self.
All this is basic knowledge of psychology. It’s very easy to find if one is willing to learn.
The ego is in darkness. It is afraid of Light.
But there is really nothing to be afraid of, when the True Light shines and destroys (kills) the ego.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:49 AM
Reply to  Hail

It’s not the ego that’s the problem, it’s the Id.
Ego = Functioning
Id = Dysfunctioning.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 6, 2025 4:13 PM

Some of us had our principal “waking up” (“de-sheeping”) experience over two decades ago. And we recognise our indebtedness to those who came before – e.g. Alan Watt, Bill Cooper, etc. We are naturally sceptical of those who had their awakening during the covid era – especially when they make claims as to superior awareness.

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Dec 6, 2025 3:34 PM

Yes most Brits have been programmed to believe that – even though their government might be up to no good in some fields – that basically the government has their best interests at heart – which is a lie, however no matter how hard and clear you present your points, they just won’t budge on that perspective – maybe its a generational thing.

As Noam Chomsky once said or word to that effect, Whatever you think your government is up to – they are up to far worse than you think.

The end game is full-time surveillance, control, and ultimately removal.

As for Mr Hayden’s decision – to stop penning his articles in here, bloggers will always have negative feed back to some articles, you need to be a bit thick skinned in this game, I’ve seen the likes of Kit Klarenberg, Max Blumenthal, David Miller, Aaron Mate, Craig Murray and many more hit with negative comments, some even from establishment trolls paid to do so, but they just shrug it off – and get back on the saddle, I’m sure Mr Hayden will get back on the saddle again at some point.

Big Al
Big Al
Dec 6, 2025 4:51 PM

“Someone on the internet pissed me off”. To be fair, the person did use threatening language and these days, you can’t be too careful about that. And I try not to judge how that might affect people individually. Look at Marjorie Taylor Green. And it’s Hayen, not Hayden.

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Dec 6, 2025 5:23 PM
Reply to  Big Al

If this is you Mr Hayen – apologies for misspelling your name – yes comments on the net can piss us off – especially if they are directed towards ourselves – even more so if they are deemed threatening – which is very common in this day and age – some folk can mull over these comments, and even let them get under their skin – which is I suppose in a way that shows you are human – and have feelings.

I’ve not been posting on this site for too long, but I have read some of your excellent articles, and I get the distinct felling that you enjoy writing and expressing your thoughts via this site – it would be a great pity if you gave up what you enjoy, just because some people (paid or not) tried to decry your work and opinions – by all means take a wee break and recoup and come back raring to go – some folk will disagree with what your write, and as Voltaire once said, or words to that effect:

I might disagree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend with my life – your right to say it.

Take care.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:50 AM

I reckon Todd will be back, because he writes from the heart.

Hornbach
Hornbach
Dec 6, 2025 5:14 PM

Todd HAYEN, not Hayden. I saw those hateful comments to his article and I hope that Dr. Hayen will continue to publish in OffG at some point. Niall McRae quotes Erasure but the title is more Dire Straits.

Thom
Thom
Dec 6, 2025 7:13 PM
Reply to  Hornbach

Chicks for free too, then?  😜 

Kieran Telo
Kieran Telo
Dec 6, 2025 5:37 PM

Maybe Admin2 needs to step in and enforce good behaviour, as is her won’t.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 1:04 AM

Its just, a man can get tired of stupid people again and again and again.
At some point you need to rest and see something more positive than spending time with only negative people yes?

Willem
Willem
Dec 6, 2025 3:25 PM

‘ Artificial intelligence will rise through the occupational strata to replace professional practitioners such as lawyers and doctors.’

Good riddance!

(Whether AI will do the job as required is another topic worth discussion)

Paul
Paul
Dec 6, 2025 3:06 PM

I know I’m a pedantic t…t but the Erasure song is from 1987, surely?

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Dec 6, 2025 2:42 PM

What’s going to happen when people across the Earth demand that their elected political leaders publicly state and explain their positions, for or against: digital id, central bank digital currencies, vaccine passports, social credit systems, and the creeping transhumanist agenda?

The time when the world’s people loudly express such a serious, legitimate demand is clearly now.

gbossa
gbossa
Dec 6, 2025 2:51 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

What will happen when we demand the “elected political leaders publicly state” their positions on the unfolding technocracy? Why those politicians will do what politicians always do in such circumstances – “they will lie to us” – boldly – and unflinchingly and as convincingly as possible. The job of the political class is to serve oligarchy – not to serve we citizens.

sandy
sandy
Dec 6, 2025 6:10 PM
Reply to  gbossa

What will happen when politicians are required to have concrete policy platforms that are contractual obligations with the electorate? This would mean any person seeking office would present a policy platform which is what voters would be voting for. This would eliminate the decision making autonomy of the elite class and replace it with the People’s choice of policy which is expressed through their vote. The sooner we get away from our dangerous autonomous autocrats and assume authority to install our own policy spectrum the faster we get to creating a sane world. We could ban AI, foreign military action and bases, corporate subsidy and loopholes, and limit poverty and wealth. And a hundred more improvements to create an egalitarian planet.

Johnny
Johnny
Dec 7, 2025 8:51 AM
Reply to  sandy

Spot on Sandy.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 6, 2025 4:20 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

As always, the 5% who make such demands will get condemned and ostracised by the 95% who align with the State.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 6, 2025 10:48 PM

The 95% won’t even get to hear our demands, as they are not looking beyond the parameters of their own dinner plates.

Why Stupid People Are More Dangerous Than Criminals according to historian Carlo Cipolla.

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Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Dec 7, 2025 8:58 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Carlo Cipolla my hero. Someone finally got it.

kofimoseley
kofimoseley
Dec 6, 2025 10:32 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Slaves can’t make demands. You will stop living under them when you choose to. Freedom is taken. You can give yourself a forecast of blue skies as far as the eye can see. You are adult. There is no one naturally above.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 7, 2025 5:26 AM
Reply to  kofimoseley

You will stop living under them when you choose to.
You can also stop living when you choose. The requisite laws are almost ready.