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Julian Assange – Do the trusting fall?

Francis O'Neill

In recent years the lockdowns, mandates, and toxic injections, have served to reveal the true nature of people in positions of influence.

Before 2020 we had a different measure of people’s ethical standing -the 9/11 litmus test. This was articulated in a video, the transcript of which reads,

Everyone in government and every field of endeavor the world over is defined by their position on this event…By what they have said and by what they have not said, one can accurately judge who is an enemy of the people’s of the world.”

In 2010, Julian Assange told the Belfast Telegraph,

“I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.”

The litmus test continues,

Anyone who promotes the official story; who accepts the official story, who oppresses those who doubt the official story, who does not question the official story, is involved or too stupid to pat their head and chew gum at the same time.”

At the Holberg Debate in 2017, Assange answered a question by saying,

on the 9/11 issue generally I don’t think it is particularly important.”

The litmus test concludes,

Everyone in government; in the media, in entertainment, in organized religion, in the public eye and in the public who accepts and promotes the official story is either a traitor or a tool.”

Assange’s views on 9/11 tally with those of his supporter, MIT professor Noam Chomsky, who despite knowing better, said of the case for controlled demolition,

I think it’s completely wrong- but also I think it’s diverting people away from serious issues. I mean even if it is true, which is extremely unlikely, who cares? I mean it doesn’t have any significance.”

There are those who consider the truth of the foundational event of the ‘War on Terror,’ to be important, and the concordant evidence that disproves the official 9/11 story to be significant.

As with others who failed the 9/11 litmus test, Chomsky went on to advocate for the medical tyranny of the 2020s, in relation to which Assange’s Wikileaks was notable only for selling masks.

Assange’s comments on 9/11 came after Barack Obama’s information czar, Cass Sunstein, addressed the question What can government do about conspiracy theories? in a paper that concluded,

“ that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories”

by

“-counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories.”

“-formally hiring credible private parties to engage in counterspeech.”

“-informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help.”

Sunstein announced the arrival of Wikileaks to the world in a 2007 Washington Post article and was co-author of the ‘nudge theory‘ utilised by governments during the lockdown era. ‘Nudge’ techniques had previously been known as propaganda, coercion, and brainwashing.

Interestingly, for a man with a messianic image, Assange’s mother’s partner was a member of a child-drugging cult called ‘The Family’. This cult had echoes of the CIA mind control programme ‘MK-Ultra’ that was officially winding down as ‘the Family’ was founded in Australia.

Though there are photographs of a boy who resembles Assange in the cult, he is instead said to have attended 37 separate schools, but,

If Julian spent 4 years at one school…and the school year is only 9 months long… Julian was swapping schools every 6 weeks.”[source]

The Family disbanded in 1987 following a police raid when Assange was 16. Its founder,

Anne Hamilton-Byrne … was never prosecuted for child abuse, false adoptions, forgery, social security fraud or for overseeing the administration of narcotics and psychiatric drugs on children.” [source]

Assange then operated under the hacker alias ‘Mendax’ which means ‘liar’ in Latin. He was caught and “in December 1996, he pleaded guilty to twenty-five charges. His ‘disrupted childhood’ was ‘cited to justify his lenient penalty.”

A relationship with the US government is suggested by Assange’s inclusion in a 1994 email with employees from NASA, Los Alamos Laboratories and SEMATECH. His former hacking comrade Pieter Zaitko, who went on to work for a DARPA military contractor, said,

Julian told me that his graduate work had been funded by a US Government grant, specifically NSA and DARPA money which was supposed to be used for ‘fundamental security research.’”

John Young, an early Wikileaks collaborator who registered the wikileaks.org domain has subsequently been scathing in his criticism of the group, commenting that, “everyone associated with WL is a bald-faced liar, an agent of the authorities and the worst of the world,” and that ‘Wikileaks has always been a commercial enterprise hiding behind a narcissistic “public interest” PR.’ ”

In leaked emails Assange suggested wikileaks could run on $50,000 per year but his desire to secure $5 million led to “delicate negotiations with the Open Society (George Soros),” and a “strategy for division and support.” Assange was reported to own 94% of the (for profit) company that owns wikileaks. He planned that wikileaks would:

appear to be, the reclusive ubermench of the 4th estate.”

and to,

“continually inject our informational strain…. to dominate the culture when opposed by relatively random influences of others… to push our desired perceptions of what WL is into the world, to set the key in which future bars of our song are to be played by the public orchestra, BEFORE it faces any serious opposition.”

The extensive media coverage Assange has received contrasts starkly with the way the truth of 9/11 or vaccine harms is ignored and censored.

Other whistleblowers remain largely unknown. Seeking to avoid being extradited to the US he was forced to stay in London, one of the media centres of the world, in the embassy of Ecuador, a US ally.

During the lockdown period the media highlighted prominent figures campaigning for his release whilst demonstrations against the incarceration of the wider public were under-reported.

Assange is said to have endured a lack of daylight at the embassy -which has windows and where he appeared on a balcony. Similarly, he is said to have suffered constant surveillance but also to have sired two sons in a relationship that was kept secret until 2020 and during which he enjoyed visits from Pamela Anderson. He apparently married in prison but we are told the photographs of the event are too grainy to be recognisable. When he was forcibly carried from the embassy in full public view a Gore Vidal book was not dislodged from his grip.

Assange remains the only one of the wikileaks team to be given a high profile and pursued by the authorities. Alongside dissidents Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning, he has been depicted in a statue that has been given prominence around the world. The trio operate as examples to those in the respective fields of journalism, intelligence, and the military.

Like Snowden, who also fails the 9/11 litmus test, Assange has had a Hollywood movie made about him.

Despite the reported psychological torture imposed upon him, Manning was permitted to pursue his trans-gender inclinations whilst in custody, setting a precedent for the US military.

Critics of Wikileaks observe that its leaks do not pack a punch that western imperialists cannot stomach, and instead they seem to support narratives concerning western targets such as Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran, and favour allies such as IsraelConcerns have been raised that Wikileaks could serve as a filtering system for disclosures and a honey-trap for whistleblowers.

As the Assange story provides a long-running cautionary tale for journalists, its most infamous leak features the murder of war correspondents. Wikileaks’ revelations of spying, torture, and war crimes, expose those lower down the chain of command and address the symptoms of the ‘war of terror,’ but not its instigators or its cause.

Francis O’Neill is an artist and writer who took to the streets in Oxford in April 2020 to run an information stall that became a hub of resistance to the lockdowns. He has since become known as the spokesman for the Yellow Boards outreach group in London. You can follow his SubStack here.

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Gladius
Gladius
Jul 5, 2024 6:23 PM

I like the Pamela Anderson part. Slava Pamela! 

Andrew F
Andrew F
Jul 5, 2024 11:42 AM

Admin – it’s been a few days and neither of my comments questioning why Assange has been silenced since he became “free” have gone through. I even sent an email.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 5, 2024 7:38 PM
Reply to  Andrew F

This one? It’s been published for some time, probably since the day you posted it…
https://off-guardian.org/2024/06/25/talk-thread-assange-gets-a-plea-deal/#comment-673843

There was one in trash also, but I’ve rescued it

wisenox
wisenox
Jul 4, 2024 6:10 PM

All that and yet, Assange never mentions nobility or fraternal orders. He is what he claims not to be.

T.S.
T.S.
Jul 4, 2024 5:12 PM

to me assange by now is just another zionist gatekeeper like Seymour Hershyboy and possibly alexis jones, it is just circus for the dumb masses

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 4, 2024 5:12 PM

I am confused. Most of the info presented above is old. Why is Off-G publishing this now, and not several years ago?

ChairmanDrusha
ChairmanDrusha
Jul 4, 2024 5:25 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Because now it’s topical?

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jul 4, 2024 10:13 PM
Reply to  ChairmanDrusha

No it isn’t because the problem has always been about the abuse of his human rights.

David Ho
David Ho
Jul 4, 2024 1:50 PM

There should be a concerted effort from those who can use AI DEEP FAKE video apps to pump out as many videos of Joe Biden Shitting his pants. Falling over. Spit dribbling down his chin. Wandering around in circles. Saying complete gibberish. Shit coming out of his mouth.
In fact all politicians should be subject to this method of ridicule and lambasting. This is what AI Video Generation is for and nobody should hold back.
If anyone is able to do this or provide links for all to share, please do so.
This one was made before AI was a thing
https://youtu.be/Sa-rP-yCqPk?si=wJIFW6y1cBZghnBK

Bib Wineskins
Bib Wineskins
Jul 5, 2024 10:31 AM
Reply to  David Ho

Marvellous!

judith
judith
Jul 5, 2024 11:55 AM
Reply to  Bib Wineskins

Not.

judith
judith
Jul 5, 2024 11:55 AM
Reply to  David Ho

Really? No thanks. That’s the kind of disgusting mess I’m trying to get away from.
That’s immature barroom antics.
To each their own I guess, but, nah.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jul 4, 2024 11:15 AM

Although, I have little interest in today’s UK General Selection, it is clear that Trilateral errand boy Starmer is the preferred candidate to implement the next stage of the biosecurity digital gulag along with the controlled demolition of UK. When I was beginning to hope that more people were in the process of waking up to the fake left/right paridigm, I overheard a woman today who was ecstastic that Britain was about to ‘elect’ a “proper government”. She went on to add that her morning comprises of listening to James O’Brien at LBC Radio. A champagne socialist who continually bangs on about his private school education in Kidderminster, living in Chiswick and loves to cut callers off who do not agree with him. On days like this, when I realise who far gone some of the sheep are, I just wish that we can get this over with, bring it… Read more »

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jul 4, 2024 11:17 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Could not edit in time “how” far gone not who

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 4, 2024 11:34 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

2020 was the watershed moment when the anachronistic old view of Tory fox hunting snobs against Labour cloth capped proles was not merely revealed to be a con but had even effectively been reversed as the new biosecurity state paradigm required a “Leftist” government. The majority have no idea of any of this. As Veblen once noted, social consciousness lags way behind economic and technological developments by a considerable margin. Sometimes this consciousness never catches up. The key period is the 70s. Those of my generation have never left that time no matter how much they pathetically believe themselves to have “kept up with the times”, by which they mean a superficial embracing of the current fashions, TV programmes ad pop music. Politically, they’re still living in the days when unions had some clout and the system reps hadn’t mastered the Blairite art of mimicking a vacuous “yoof” appeal. There… Read more »

Turning Moment
Turning Moment
Jul 4, 2024 9:41 AM

Several mentions of Chomsky with regard to Assange’s failure of the 911 litmus test. We must remember that there is a long list of failures amongst the Anti-War Left, indeed it has been argued that the collective epistemic failure on this topic sealed the fate of that movement. These are the names that come to memory in that they greatly disappointed me at the time: Chris Hedges Glenn Greenwald Media Lens Craig Murray Max Blumenthal Jonathan Cook Democracy Now Counterpunch ….. but the list goes on as all readers of this surely realise. I puzzled over this for years, and it only really made sense once I considered the question, “If it is legitimate to critique huge narratives like 911, then surely it is legitimate to question other ones?” The journey down that path led to a revision of my political viewpoint such that ‘Left’ became understood in a quite… Read more »

iskratov
iskratov
Jul 4, 2024 6:26 PM
Reply to  Turning Moment

”Droite et gauche, tout le monde est pro-bombe. Tout le monde est néolibéral.” Lettre ouverte à ceux qui sont passés du col Mao au Rotary, Guy Hocquenghem

Turning Moment
Turning Moment
Jul 4, 2024 7:08 PM
Reply to  iskratov

“When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called the People’s Stick.” Mikhail Bakunin

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 4, 2024 8:28 AM

Keeping the bird virus theme going…
https://dumptheguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jul/03/blackbird-numbers-plummet-in-south-of-england-amid-potential-spread-of-virus

I’m in the south of England and the blackbirds are in my garden as usual. None of them are falling over in convulsions and I’ve not heard a sniffle.

der einzige
der einzige
Jul 4, 2024 7:31 AM

When many years ago I wrote all that in this article (+ much more), offG claimed that it was nonsense and slander and Saint Julian was their greatest hero. What made this change, when all these facts were known from the beginning and everyone who can add two to two knew that Mossange was a psyop (except offG)? Now that the action is over, you have suddenly woken up?

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 4, 2024 6:46 AM

Today is the vote and a lot of memes are getting pushed. There seems to be a determination to dissuade as many as possible from voting. And another movement to convince you Labour has already won.

I keep wondering. For the first time I think the unthinkable – to vote Tory! This as a tactical move to try and stop Labour getting in. Also to prove to myself that I don’t fall any more for the now anachronistic crap about Left/Right.

Or maybe I’ll spoil my ballot paper?

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 4, 2024 8:11 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I’d appreciate it if instead of simply voting me down, folk would actually make a comment. I don’t want to vote Tory. God forbid! But I reckon SNP is a vote that only succeeds in blocking the Tories and is therefore a vote for Labour. Labour has been another business party indistinguishable from the Tories since Blair. (As Thatcher herself proudly admitte.) Blair signified continuation of neoliberal policies under a Left face. And vast numbers were suckered in. But since 2020 Labour has been at the forefront of a new “Leftism” whose true purpose is the biggest grab for resources since enclosure of the commons. The Tories are at least rhetorically tied to small businesses. Labour now represent the biggest businesses. Of course both parties are ultimately in the service of the parasite class but going by the mainstream script you can see they favour Labour since Labour will most… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 4, 2024 8:24 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Have you noticed how invisible lockdown has been during the (s)election campaign?

What, keep you under unprecedented house arrest for two years?… oh, we never did!… you’re imagining it!… are you obsessed or something!

nima
nima
Jul 4, 2024 9:48 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Have you noticed how invisible lockdown has been during the (s)election campaign?

Celebrity jungle contender who came 3rd.
Normal Nigel who set up Ukip, Brexit party, Reform
posted last week..

The second and third Covid lockdowns were the biggest mistake ever made by a British government in peacetime.

4:10 PM · Jun 27, 2024

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1806344298159276094

Take note that Normal Nigel thinks the ”’first lockdown was needed” which then sells the threat of a biblical plague from a wet market in China, PRC tests, Vaccine passports etc etc vaccines. etc world wide lockdown.

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jul 4, 2024 8:50 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Voting or not voting, we know it won’t make any difference George.

I will be writing on mine: ‘None of the above’ and ‘I do not consent’.

Won’t make any difference, but it feels like something positive; though I’m fully aware it isn’t.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 4, 2024 1:48 PM
Reply to  Mark EL

I’m considering writing, “We all know it makes no difference”. Or “Yeah whatever.”

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Jul 4, 2024 12:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, the role of the so-called Left is to usher in the communitarian (neo-communism) agenda. This is at the heart of UN Agenda 21/2030. Since so many supporters of the left, including the middle and especially the upper middle, chattering classes believe in anthropogenic climate change, ‘pandemics’ and the SDGs, these morons are literally aiding their own economic and financial suicide.

“You will own nothing and be happy” is easier to implement when the dumb cattle assist in their own path to slavery and serfdom. Those with assets are the target audience to impoverish and reduce them to becoming dependents upon the State in receipt of UBI and a life in the rentier economy. The irony of these virtue signalling, “I’m alright Jack” types sleepwalking to the slaughterhouse is almost comical.

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Jul 4, 2024 1:58 PM
Reply to  George Mc

publicly auditable blockchain fixes this

Eleventy Seventy
Eleventy Seventy
Jul 4, 2024 6:53 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I didn’t vote you down (I always enjoy reading your posts), but I’m guessing that some of the downvotes might be because you’re even considering voting in the first place. Aside from the strong suspicion that many have that it doesn’t alter the “illusion of choice” outcome one iota, but rather keeps perpetuating it by naively thinking it could actually make a difference, there’s also the more philosophical notion that the 51% are morally entitled to violently dominate the 49% simply because they have numbers. Labelling it as “democracy” and touting it as the most noble system there is, as the MSM does, is questionable at best. As a very crude example, if a plane containing 80 men and 20 women crashes on a remote desert island and all survive and decide to adopt “democratic” ideals, then voting to legalise rape would be perfectly ‘legal’ and wholly democratic—and therein lies… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 4, 2024 9:09 AM
Reply to  George Mc

As I’ve posted here:

https://off-guardian.org/2024/06/27/why-you-should-never-believe-your-eyes
https://off-guardian.org/2024/06/23/msm-signaling-a-change-in-the-russia-ukraine-narrative

The establishment has been getting seriously panicked that Reform is polling at 20% and above. This won’t do anything to stop the appointment of Starmer, but it may at least mean he has to face some proper questioning in Parliament. It would also result in there being a lot of independently minded MPs and the Tories getting wiped out. As a consequence, the entire establishment has been acting in cahoots to knock Reform back to its allotted range of 10-15%.

Turning Moment
Turning Moment
Jul 4, 2024 9:24 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I think that spoiling your ballot paper is the only meaningful thing that a voter can do at this point. I wonder if there is a place where members of the public can view spoiled ballot papers and read messages written on them ? That would be a genuine avenue of dissent.

nima
nima
Jul 4, 2024 9:39 AM
Reply to  George Mc

! This as a tactical move to try and stop Labour getting in. Also to prove to myself that I don’t fall (fool) any more for the now anachronistic crap about Left/Right. You have though!! by voting and believing your little vote makes a huge difference which is no different than getting a pcr test.. Not only do I find it strange!! that supposedly indy alt media hive mind blogs have all gone out with the poor ”Trump is being persecuted tripe” (off g for example *2 article in 3 days on the build up to the U>K selections (*shill J and *Doctor psychology Toddy). The main posters of the hive mind blogs seem to have all started saying there going to vote Tory or Reform Or Trump as a tactical vote….because evil Labour / Biden etc etc etc It seems manufactured, contrived, shilly that this has happened in several… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 4, 2024 10:30 AM
Reply to  nima

Ah “Gilted (sic) George”. I’ve met you before under a different name.

First, CAN WE PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT TRUMP AS IF AMERICA WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING UNIVERSE? I am talking about the UK election.

Second, I’ve noticed that some commenters here consist mainly of those who wish to merely “blow off steam” and they may, like me, think that this general election is a futile charade. However, the suggestion to vote Tory still fills them with dread. If it doesn’t matter then why not prove to yourself that you really believe it doesn’t matter by precisely going out and voting Tory?

That’s one incentive for it. Another is to say that it DOES matter if the Tories get in since it would be an embarrassment to the whole biosecurity state programme and would make such a programme more problematic to implement.

judith
judith
Jul 4, 2024 12:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Wait, what?? We’re not the whole effing universe???

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 4, 2024 1:50 PM
Reply to  judith

Were you BURRRRN IN THA EWE ESS AYE?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 2:36 PM
Reply to  judith

To the US we are, have been, and always will be, world without end, amen. Even in galaxies far, far away. Until we’re not.

nima
nima
Jul 4, 2024 6:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Another is to say that it DOES matter if the Tories get in since it would be an embarrassment to the whole biosecurity state programme and would make such a programme more problematic to implement.

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Andrew F
Andrew F
Jul 4, 2024 6:13 AM

Interesting article, but it doesn’t work for me. Missing context indicates bias and lack of bona fides. Firstly, the Belfast Telegraph (I don’t give MSM ‘journalists’ much credence on anything they say ever, but that’s the source used here – and it’s a mild smear piece anyway) quote attributed to Assange is preceded by: “His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? “I believe in facts about conspiracies,” he says, choosing his words slowly. “Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there’s enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news.” Secondly, missing from the 2017 Holberg Debate quote is: “On the 9/11 issue generally, I don’t think it… Read more »

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Jul 4, 2024 5:29 AM

Assange didn’t merely ignore 9/11 truth. He went out of his way to denounce the very idea, just like Chomsky. 9/11 was a major acid test, and Julian got an F. Thanks for this excellent article, Francis O’Neill!!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 4, 2024 5:09 AM

9/11 was the trigger for the 21st century forever wars of the USA, so it wasn’t an insignificant event, particularly as it was intricately planned by those in control of the Project for a New American Century ideology.

Without 9/11 war in Afghanistan and Iraq would not have been called for, although I have little doubt that another way to trigger wars that the world didn’t want nor need would have been found.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 3:17 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

It was like the Bush/Gore election meltdown that prequelled it by only 9 months. There was a whole series of mechanisms put in place to make sure Bush was installed, and I paid real attention, to the point of renting a storage space to archive stacks of 5 national newspapers! Which paid off, as key betrayals appeared on inner pages, here and there, of all of them, and many a sleuth missed many of them. Some slips by NYT were deleted in later editions! The PNAC posse of perps and supervillains had all kinds of institutional mechanisms in place, from Florida to the Supreme Court (“Nino” Scalia) to make sure W was our Manifest Destiny. They had a War on Terror to get on. And soon they did. What seemed especially disturbing was that Europeans knew about the imminence of the 9/11 attacks… …the day before. On 9/10 German TV… Read more »

les online
les online
Jul 4, 2024 4:13 AM

White House Defends Labeling Critical Biden Videos as “Deepfakes”.
https://reclaimthenet.org/white-house-defends-labeling-critical-biden-videos-as-deepfakes

A likely meaning: over the coming months the rival Unipaty contenders
will fully exploit the use of Deepfakes against each other ?

David Ho
David Ho
Jul 4, 2024 1:49 PM
Reply to  les online

There should be a concerted effort from those who can use AI DEEP FAKE video apps to pump out as many videos of Joe Biden Shitting his pants. Falling over. Spit dribbling down his chin. Wandering around in circles. Saying complete gibberish. Shit coming out of his mouth.
In fact all politicians should be subject to this method of ridicule and lambasting. This is what AI Video Generation is for and nobody should hold back.
If anyone is able to do this or provide links for all to share, please do so.
This one was made before AI was a thing
https://youtu.be/Sa-rP-yCqPk?si=wJIFW6y1cBZghnBK

Big Al
Big Al
Jul 4, 2024 4:02 AM

Imagine all that, like Pierre Omidyar and Glen Greenwald and “Vice”, and all the speculation and arousing in the alternative media, and here we are today and nothing came of a damn thing. Nothing. The only thing that changed is things got worse, we had a fake pandemic, more war, more money and wealth to the top, more movement toward the New World Order, and the list goes on. It might make one think it was all staged to take people’s minds off the only solution to the mess we’re in, revolution. There’s an old saying my grandma used to use, “Proof is in the pudding”.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 4, 2024 12:29 PM
Reply to  Big Al

The real saying is “the proof of the pudding is in the eating” .

In other words, the only real test of how good the pudding is – is to taste it.

The proof is in the pudding” is a misquote that makes zero sense.

The proof of what?

Why would this proof be randomly placed inside some pudding?

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Jul 4, 2024 2:14 PM

I have zero taller ants for gramma pre-Madonna’s like yourself Sophie. Escape goats are a diamond dozen.

Big Al
Big Al
Jul 4, 2024 4:09 PM

I don’t know, my grandma used to say it and she was a sweet little old lady. You got something against sweet little old ladies? Look it up, Admin, I did.

jimbo
jimbo
Jul 4, 2024 2:05 AM

So Francis says that Julian is guilty of failing to expose matters in the way that he thinks they should be exposed. Oh, and he is guilty of “being pursued by the authorities.” Then there are those “photographs of a boy who resembles Assange in the cult.”

Well folks there you have it. The Francis open and shut case.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 4, 2024 2:23 AM
Reply to  jimbo

Kids love fairy tales.
Adults enjoy stories.
And one fairy tale or one story is not enough. We crave variety.

Presto! It’s delivered.

Eventually kids stop believing fairy tales.

Adults, on the other hand, keep believing until they see or hear a more compelling story. A story that makes more sense. A story with the ring of Truth.

We are all on a journey of discovery. The discovery of Truth.
Every journey has many stages.

David Ho
David Ho
Jul 4, 2024 3:21 AM
Reply to  jimbo

Assange is the tool to serve a purpose.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 4, 2024 10:13 AM
Reply to  David Ho

And the $uiturd$ have a big Toolbox.
Spanners to tweak every ‘nut’.
Hammers to crack ‘nuts’
Files to shape ‘nuts’.
Etc, etc, etc.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 4, 2024 1:59 AM

Like many others who are slowly beginning to realise, I am hoping for a hung Parliament

The entire lot of them, if they can’t tell the Truth.

gorden
gorden
Jul 4, 2024 1:37 AM

front cover of time magazine staying a a rothstein home for much time some folks close to him die ohh to be in england the poshest folks like cameron boris nathaniel gideon osbourne all khazhar name stealers identity thieves they said thatcher and freak heath hated each other yet she kept most of his men in cabinet many child abusers victor rothschild kept everyone in check via blackmail everything got sold off rotted out assange helped the cia with many disclosure intel on middle eastern countries arab spring yet kept silent on the kosher nostra chabad in tel aviv murder inc never talked of israeli arts projects b thing a thing gelatine urban moving systems the dancing tel avivers of the 9 and 11 ritual like blackbriar and treadstone that shut assange project down. the interested men and woman are slow kill or dead or dazed and confused the 100s… Read more »

nima
nima
Jul 4, 2024 11:56 PM
Reply to  gorden

I do like the anti establishment hero’s that appear on all the Establishment major networks
it makes the anti establishment hero’s more believable.

Donate to The Bar association lawyers fee;s seems to be an anti establishment hero’s sing song.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 4, 2024 1:09 AM

the first thing to realise in a position of weakness, is “Don’t Criticise the Management”

Well, Nearly a Year Ago I Did.

I asked the Consultant – There are 3 of us on This Ward – Recovering From Sepsis – None of Us Can Walk…

And There is This Young Man Over There Who Typically Has 4 Security Guards Trying to Defend The Nurses and Us – From this Total Mad Psycho who can come and go as he Pleases – and All His Family Visits him all The Time…and he is OK then..until they Go Home and We have got to Put Up With Him Every F’cking Night

He was still there driving everyone mad,until they finally let me go home 3 weeks later..and I still couldn’t walk

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 4, 2024 12:36 AM

The Young Scottish Guy – Academic – Historian BBC Documentaries – Still Got a Weekly Slot on GBNEWS – has got to be incredibly careful what he says, cos if he says the wrong words, he will be Banned from Both Youtube and GBNEWS

I think he is incredibly Brave – He Explained how it was for him, when he was travelling between Edinburgh and London and Back Home to Scotland

And He Suddenly Got It – and Refused to Wear a Mask – The Only person Not to – On The Twice Weekly Flights – And How He has Lost All His Friends

Good Man – I Know How he Feels…He says I believed Absolutely Everything..and am still only on The First Step to Realise The Truth..

https://www.youtube.com/@Neil-Oliver.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 4, 2024 12:10 AM

From Earlier Today..The 80 year old is Brilliant – Let Me Speak – How to Control a Conversation.

ROCK STAR

“I’m Not Antisemitic” Roger Waters vs Piers Morgan On Israel-Palestine & More”

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 4, 2024 12:02 AM

Sure we have had a few people coming round our house sticking leaflets through our letter box, with the pizza leaflets, but not one of them, apart from the regular delivery men and women, and the Jehovar’s Witnesses have had the Courage To Knock on Our Door…so that we might have a Discussion….

You see THEY HAVE BEEN SUSSED

None of Them Tell The TRUTH

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 3, 2024 11:36 PM

I don’t disagree with anything written by the author here – a lot of it is extremely well documented,,,,but that is only one side of the story. Sure Assange was almost certainly recruited by one or more Intelligence Agencies – So What???

The Americans Did Their Best To Terrify All Journalists All Over The World…

Do Not Tell The TRUTH About 9/11, COVID or Anything We Do Fermenting Wars, Genocide and Killing Vast Numbers of Totally INNOCENT PEOPLE

Or We The USA – THE MIGHT of The USA -Will Do an ASSANGE on YOU..

Do you want to Argue?

They Never recruited Me.

les online
les online
Jul 3, 2024 11:36 PM

Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with
“the body of fact” that exists in the mind of the general public.’
Internal Memo, Tobacco Industry. 1969.

‘We’ll know our program has succeeded when the hoi polloi doubt everything !@

  • to paraphrase some very important US bigwig…

In a world in which dis-trust is a predominant emotion sowing doubt
is a very, very effective weapon… (anon. aka – 😎)

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Jul 3, 2024 11:22 PM

I knew about Julian Assangne before Craig Murray,,,he was pretty much unknown then, and I know Exactly how The Swedish, wanted to Release him, cos both Girls – even the one working for the CIA admitted it;;;We both invited him to our homes and our Beds on two diifferent occasions within 1 week, and The Parties Afterwards…And They Published it Aftonbladet – The Swedish Equivalent of The Sun

They Both Boasted They had made Love pJulian Assange, and went out out to buy him breakfast, and come back for seconds…

Almost No one was The Slightest Bit Interested Except the CIA, and the UK The Then UK Director of Prosecutions

Sir Keir Starmer – He INSISTED DO NOT RELEASE JULIAN ASSANGE

He is One of The Most EVIL BASTARDS OF THE LOT

PLEASE DO NOT VOTE

tony

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 3, 2024 11:14 PM

If there was any pro-Assange bubble left in me, it has now completely collapsed.

The first prick in my bubble was a few weeks ago when it was pointed out that the Wikileaks website showed its partner companies to be the usual run-down of CIA-controlled assets, including Der Spiegel of which former Spiegel journalist, Udo Ulfkotte, said (and wrote a book about) that the CIA would dictate to journalists what narratives to write in this prestigious news magazine.

The English version of Ulfkotte’s book is: Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News.

Needless to say, he was heart attacked in January 2017, 2 1/2 years after his book was published.

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Jul 4, 2024 11:33 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

It’s a worthwhile read. Quite recently republished as Presstitutes…
The publisher pointed out that all journalists are ‘for hire’ so the original sub-title was more appropriate. https://tinyurl.com/mcetxa2h

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 3, 2024 9:06 PM

That litmus test has the same stink that turned me right off cj hopkins in his last but one – telling people they are stupid if they…whatever. It’s stupid (!!!!!!!!!)

sandy
sandy
Jul 3, 2024 7:31 PM

Well, for me, there is no greedy totalitarian righteous cause i would falsely occupy a decade in prison for. Imagine, an act, a fraud of personal suffering, performed for 10 years, for what kind of cause? So your rich class buds can continue to throttle humanity? While you spend ten years of confinement. I don’t buy it.

No one is perfect. Almost anyone can end up doing good or evil at one time in their life. I’ve heard many I know have a brain, say JFK, 911 and the LOCKDOWN were as the Spectacle projected. Doesn’t mean they’re agents on the other side.

David Ho
David Ho
Jul 4, 2024 3:27 AM
Reply to  sandy

My hammers lives for most of the time locked up in a tool box. I bring it out now and then to drive a point home. Assange is a tool used to get people to think they are looking at the whole truth and warn others not to reveal the real truth.

Beatriz
Beatriz
Jul 3, 2024 7:06 PM

You have just confirmed my suspicions. Thanks.

LOL
LOL
Jul 3, 2024 6:39 PM

Good article, I am pretty much convinced although not as much on Snowden.

I never believed for a second that Manning’s apparent gender change was a coincidence at all- at best he did it to get out quicker, a cry for help, otherwise it was a psy-op script.

As for 9/11 the real litmus test is the photographic evidence that Judy Moore presents and how people react to it or whether they register at all.
i don’t know what she is talking about when it comes to “free energy” and her speculations are not so important, but just looking at the photos leaves little doubt in my mind that this was an energy weapon. None of the other alternative theories is plausible given the evidence .

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 6:57 AM
Reply to  LOL

Snowden is absolute steer manure. He is the millennial answer to Lee Harvey Oswald. Defecting to Moscow like LHO,not fooling KGB/FSB for a moment. He’s as fake as owt, I can’t believe anyone can’t see through his florid grandiloquence uninterruptedly signalling his heroic whistleblowing virtue at every possible turn. Nobody can take his posturing seriously.

Please, there already was an Oswald, and this 2.0 is just as provably nazified. Another Intel fake martyr.

judith
judith
Jul 4, 2024 12:18 PM
Reply to  LOL

I think you mean Dr. Judy Woods?

StStephen
StStephen
Jul 3, 2024 6:34 PM

Demolish everything and what have you got left? Ground Zero. Demolishing, in the eyes of resistants, the reputation of a personage who at the very least has (or had) the virtue of uniting in sympathy the opponents of institutionalized power will only contribute to the purposes of those who control real “controlled opposition”. It’s irrational and completely counter-productive to assert, as the author of this article does, that 9/11 is some sort of “litmus test” for purity of thought and motive. A person may never come to the realisation that something he or she firmly believes to be false or true is just the opposite, and yet still in good faith have real and vital things to say or reveal to us. That applies to both Julian Assange and Noam Chomsky but not, I fear, the author of an article that in its way rivals the worst attacks on Assange… Read more »

LOL
LOL
Jul 3, 2024 7:02 PM
Reply to  StStephen

Past works are in the past and didn’t work to remove the globalists from power. Chomsky and Assange were compromised and became limited hangouts.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 3, 2024 8:57 PM
Reply to  StStephen

No-one doubts that Assange “has (or had) the virtue of uniting in sympathy the opponents of institutionalized power”. But that bit about “those who control real “controlled opposition”” obviously simply assumes that Assange isn’t involved with those ones.   “It’s irrational and completely counter-productive to assert, as the author of this article does, that 9/11 is some sort of “litmus test” for purity of thought and motive.”   Why? When you have an event that stinks as obviously as 9/11 then any supposed dissident who doesn’t wrinkle his nose at it is under legitimate suspicion.   “A person may never come to the realisation that something he or she firmly believes to be false or true is just the opposite, and yet still in good faith have real and vital things to say or reveal to us.”   Yes. No-one is arguing with that.   “That applies to both Julian… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 3, 2024 9:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Once again, this peculiar editor has mangled a comment – in this case, in an oddly selective way. The passage that starts with “..Chomsky’s past writings” has been melded together into an undigestible chunk. Admin, can you sort it?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 3, 2024 9:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I have

les online
les online
Jul 3, 2024 11:03 PM
Reply to  George Mc

‘honest suspicions’ – Love It !!
Thanks, George !

I’ve long preferred Terry Stafford’s version of
“Suspicion”, to Elvis ‘The Pelvis’s’ version…

** aka – legitimate paranoia ?

ChairmanDrusha
ChairmanDrusha
Jul 3, 2024 5:58 PM

Only fitting that the conclusion to this is that to do journalism (one may even call it “your own research”) would ultimately result in a criminal conviction.

Howard
Howard
Jul 3, 2024 5:16 PM

Really, truly, I don’t mind “guilt by association” innuendoes. Nor do I mind placing a big Scarlet Letter on anyone who disagrees with “The Right” versions of things.

What I do mind is naivete so blatant it makes my skin crawl. Does the author of this article not know that celebrities (such as Assange) are the media’s lifeblood? Every turd a celebrity drops becomes fodder for the media. They eat it up, spit it out, serve it up to the public, large enough portions of which savor it to keep the media rolling.

Nobody cares what Mr. Nobody does or what happens to him unless it’s so unique the media can find an angle. But put an Assange in jail and you never hear the end of it. That DOES NOT make an Assange a silent partner of the media!!!!!

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Jul 3, 2024 4:37 PM

💯👏👏👏👏👏💯
Now somebody do a
good expose on Snowden.
HE’S a VERY similar story to Assange.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 7:06 AM
Reply to  thejackalsmark

Yep. “Como dos gotas de agua” = two peas in a pod. That whole Intercept gang too, Poitras et al. flunks the sniff test.

Brianberou
Brianberou
Jul 3, 2024 4:16 PM

It would make a very refreshing change of instead of having copy and paste articles there were in depth well researched and analysed articles such as this !

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Julian_Assange

Fran Crowe
Fran Crowe
Jul 3, 2024 4:05 PM

For me, I thought he looked incredibly well for a man who had spent such a long time in captivity, both in the embassy and prison. I expected him to look in a lot worse condition than he appeared to be in. Maybe just my suspicious mind.
That being said, what was it he did wrong in telling the truth about inhuman American activities in Iraq??

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 3, 2024 5:13 PM
Reply to  Fran Crowe

Immaterial as to his real mission, since all the virtue signalling through apparent whistleblowing always is (or can be) used as a cover, a mask, (see stripes in photo above!) for his actual mission, the one he’s really furthering.

I mean, that’s almost the whole game, right there, of (psy)operatives, in a nutshell.

Sleight of hand.

They give you all that, just so as to take back something else, which goes unnoticed by most eyes, by and large.

ProActive
ProActive
Jul 3, 2024 7:36 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

his actual mission, the one he’s really furthering

What is this actual mission that he’s really furthering?

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jul 3, 2024 8:28 PM
Reply to  Fran Crowe

Can anyone who has paid any attention at all really be shocked about the inhumanity of wars? As if that’s a complete unknown or would never happen. While assange “exposed” that brutality out of American warfare, would other nations do all that different? No. I’m in no way excusing what was exposed but you gotta ask, who’d be shocked at that behavior? Anyone who would simply refuses to admit just what war really is.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jul 3, 2024 3:54 PM

To Admin: I just made two pending (I guess because of links?) redundant comments (being unable to edit the first one, I created a 2nd), the first of which (3:42 PM GMT) can be deleted, the 2nd kept/approved. Thanks.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jul 3, 2024 3:50 PM

Attribution of the Litmus Test video:

“A ‘Les Visible’ (pseudonym) work, lent color and sound by the inimitable Patrick Lewis….

  • The posting of the video on LV’s own Vimeo channel is here.
  • The original YouTube posting is here.
  • The original text from LV’s own site with the post for the video is here.

Esoteric to say the least, LV has been writing thoughtfully about the state of the post-9/11 world for many years now on a series of weblogs that he rotates between, all of which can be accessed from any of them.

Les Visible
Les Visible
Jul 3, 2024 5:35 PM

Les Visible is my real name since the 80’s

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jul 3, 2024 9:03 PM
Reply to  Les Visible

Sorry, didn’t realize, can’t edit the comment, alas (and you’re welcome…  🤔 ).

Les Visible
Les Visible
Jul 4, 2024 6:07 AM

I meant that tongue-in-cheek, although it is my real name, and I sincerely thank you for associating my work with a better class of people.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jul 5, 2024 7:24 PM
Reply to  Les Visible

You’re welcome, but better class or not (also tongue-in-cheek?), that’s your work and the writer of this post did not mention that or you, and you’ve been hard at it for a very long time, and you write well, thoughtfully, and engagingly, so I hope I was able to direct some people your way.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Jul 3, 2024 3:42 PM

Attribution of the Litmus Test video:

“A ‘Les Visible’ (pseudonym) work, lent color and sound by the inimitable Patrick Lewis…. original YouTube version is here:

youtube.com/watch?v=tXnQoFeVQII

…and the original text is here:

smoking-mirrors.com/2008/02/911-is-litmus-test.html ”

Esoteric to say the least, LV has been writing thoughtfully about the state of the post-9/11 world for many years now on a series of weblogs that he rotates between, all of which can be accessed from any of them.

R Anand
R Anand
Jul 3, 2024 3:32 PM

Excellent insights. I enjoyed reading this article by Francis O’Neill.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 3, 2024 3:04 PM

The “official” Assange legend seems like something that should have collapsed under its own weight years ago, except it hasn’t. That in itself, without the need of any hard copy documents or sincere eyewitnesses, shoots up more red flags than a May Day parade in the ol’ USSR. Just all the years of MSM coverage alone, without any convenient backups from the Alt HiveMind (orchestrated contradictions), should be enough proof it’s all a ridiculous fake. Next!? It’s pretty easy to navigate most geopolitics in “today’s world” just by plotting a course left by omissions. Wikipedia is notoriously revealing in this: if you look at their coverage of very sensitive Intel issues, like Lee Harvey Oswald legend and his curious connections, they always always show their hand by “small” but glaring holes in the story, like Francis Gary Powers (CIA U2 pilot shot down over USSR near Moscow in 1960) dying… Read more »

LOL
LOL
Jul 3, 2024 6:44 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

wikipedia is great for unwittingly revealing their hand sometimes.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 5:47 AM
Reply to  LOL

They are my Pole Star, the one I steer by, if always tacking against their “wind”. I complained to them 10 years ago, roughly, that their entry for “Operation Paperclip” only listed two names at the bottom of their “box set” which was headed by NAZA, ah, NASA, (damned spell check!), then The Bomb Nazi scientists, lengthy, and bottom of the totem pole “Intelligence” which had only the links to Reinhard Gehlen and Otto von Bolschwing.[Sacramento, Calif. “de-nazified” ODESSA! “central” to the Tate murders.] I said they should expand it. Next time I checked it had been deleted, altogether! Nothing to redirect either. Now you can find a whole long piece (not long enough!) on “The Gehlen Org” IF you already know where to look! They Simpsonesquely tipped that hand by hiding it. Happens all the time there. That’s why they are SO valuable. I study their elisions to plot… Read more »

judith
judith
Jul 4, 2024 12:26 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I did not know this about Gary Powers. Good lord.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 3:46 PM
Reply to  judith

Lots more to that saga too. Even his son (noted at Wiki) said he had misread his “new fuel gauge” and ran out of gas near the Encino dam (my 60s “backyard” in my school years nearby). Witnesses, never made public, spoke of a mid air explosion. The official story was that he tried to land at a school ground, but veered to his death to avoid children at play there? A CIA pilot who probably had the highest ranking of any pilot on earth when he flew U2, misreading a new fuel gauge. [That’s “covered” at Wikipedia.] He had named in a Moscow court at his trial there in 1960 the person responsible for sabotaging his U2 mission. Lee Harvey Oswald. “Bridge of Spies” film is yet another C👁️A-asset vehicle, with Tom Hanks as the obliging superstar. The role he plays, Powers lawyer, WM. Donovan, is a real piece… Read more »

judith
judith
Jul 4, 2024 6:22 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I’d never heard the LHO connection, either.
I did see Bridge of Spies some time ago. I remember liking it, at the time, but cannot remember a thing about it now.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 5, 2024 5:48 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

‘”Wild Bill” Donovan?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 5, 2024 9:11 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Nyet, same last name, different perp:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_B._Donovan

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 3, 2024 2:29 PM

OT but funny.

Last minute election throwing desperation.

Just in case Snakey still had a few muslim voter’s left:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13596103/Bizarre-moment-Rishi-Sunak-appears-Morning-Britain-favourite-meal-sandwiches.html

dmass
dmass
Jul 3, 2024 2:10 PM

My impression of what Assange said (in what year?) is ok cos unti I saw a video on YouTube about small nukes under the WTC buildings I had open mind re KSA people etc invlovement.
Hey I’m old Wisonian/unions Labour- everything ‘left’ now is to my right!

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 3, 2024 2:06 PM

Where did Anne Hamilton-Byrne spend her final years? It’s in the last sentence here:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/crime-news-anne-hamilton-byrne-the-family-cult-detective-melbourne-children/b2ee1808-4193-4bb5-bb4e-3881d85a66ab

The cult children look decidedly like the children in the film ‘Village of the Damned’ (original directed by Wolf Rilla with the remake by John Carpenter). A case of life imitating art imitating life I would suspect.

The Phoenix family were in the American branch of ‘The Family’ (who claim to be much nicer than the Australian version). River Phoenix ended up dead at a young age in highly suspicious circumstances.

Human values
Human values
Jul 3, 2024 3:13 PM
Reply to  Edwige

There is nothing nice in the American version of the Family cult aka Children of God.

The leader, David Berg, raped his own daughter and granddaughters, physically beat them to drive out demons, while pretending to be God.

Joaquin Phoenix and his brothers were raped as children. The cult advertised itself as ”free love”, but in reality it forced its members into prostitution and other forms of abuse.

https://www.culteducation.com/group/918-children-of-god-the-family.html

https://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Berg_on_Incest

dom irritant
dom irritant
Jul 3, 2024 6:29 PM
Reply to  Edwige

interestingly enough it says in the news article you posted in your comment, mistress of the damned was reportedly living in royal freemasons centennial lodge melbourne

Freecus
Freecus
Jul 3, 2024 12:57 PM

False flags (eg 9/11) and psychological operations (eg Con19) insert narratives and then collapse them, over and over again.
The aggregated social-emotional response data acquired from such activities further “informs” the next stimulus event and/or media headline.

Human values
Human values
Jul 3, 2024 12:51 PM

Wikileaks changed very quickly from ”information wants to be free” into ”free Assange”. What was thought to be a freedom movement changed into a cult of personality. The Assange cult worshipped their hero and believed saint Julian could do no wrong. The cult abused and censored everyone who was critical of their leader. I experienced this myself, following the wikileaks cult for many years. The cult was formed with the idea that this one person was not only the sexiest man in the world, but a savior. Women wanted to have a relationship with this sexy man, marry him and have his children. These people formed groups with men’s rights activists and rape apologists. The cult hated Sweden, Swedish women and especially feminists, the Swedish prosecutor and anyone in defense of the two Swedish women who accused Assange of rape. They tried to dig dirt on everyone who was the… Read more »

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 3, 2024 7:31 PM
Reply to  Human values

I’d still take Assange over the Swedish secret police any day!

les online
les online
Jul 3, 2024 11:25 PM
Reply to  Human values

You left out the way they wanted it all to appear to be about
defending Freedom of The Press…

mastershock
mastershock
Jul 3, 2024 12:08 PM

You bored us with how bad Chomsky is (usually the fake ex lefties only argument about him was the 911 or at 90 years old going on about covid.) Your newer audience who watch mega church alt media pseudo media circuits truthers with millions of views daily like Joke rogan, Alex Jones or Carlson or off g frav Shil be news actor Neil Oliver. how it is? they’ve been given a free pass.?? Yep it’s funny how everyone has suddenly forgotten what they did!! I haven’t!! Rogan endorsed the vaccine on many occasions< Carlson was happily and proudly double jabbed on his profile. Jones not only endorsed Trump then told everyone that Trump was lied to. Alex Jones & co @ disinfor wars (banned TV) and Deranged ranger (Brightoen) endorsed the 1st lockdown to help stop the spread of the chi com woo flu lab leak wet market. (videos of… Read more »

mastershock
mastershock
Jul 3, 2024 12:09 PM
Reply to  mastershock

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Rob McChicken
Rob McChicken
Jul 3, 2024 1:17 PM
Reply to  mastershock

Like many people with a twitter following, back in March 2020 he was dancing the virtual signalling mamba. If this is your strict criteria for allies in this fight be prepared for a lonely campaign.

Maybe Oliver is a media whore. Maybe he’s even controlled. You don’t ally yourself to the man, you ally yourself to your own position, and people who share your position become your allies.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 3, 2024 2:07 PM
Reply to  Rob McChicken

Nah !

Neil’s the real deal.

gorden
gorden
Jul 4, 2024 1:43 AM

he is that the real deal

an ex bbc gobshite
actor

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 3, 2024 12:45 PM
Reply to  mastershock

At the start of the covid operation I was concerned.

It looked like there was a ‘thing’ that was very dangerous and I’m quite averse to dangerous things.

Lile Neil Oliver, though, as soon as I could put two and two together I stopped being afraid and got very. very angry.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 3, 2024 12:57 PM

I’m also inclined to give people a pass for the first few weeks of the Covid-hoax.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 3, 2024 5:46 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Well, those who weren’t very well prepped, by studying past scams, they get a free pass, for their ignorance, up to a certain date

But maybe not the next one?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 3, 2024 7:33 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

All I can tell you is that March/April 2020 was a transformational moment for me. I am a changed man because of the Covid-hoax.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 5:50 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Capisce.

I was already changed 20 years ago, but Coronapalooza™ was the sudden next stage, like that stop a booster rocket.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 4, 2024 7:19 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

“Atop” a booster, I was watching as I wrote that a dazzling missile trail showering light above the California ocean in “The OC” as I was drinking in the sea air at water’s edge, darkening sky after sunset. I checked online, apparently the Musk rats were launching another SpaceX rocket payload from Vandenberg AFB a hundred miles north in Santa Barbara county.

ChairmanDrusha
ChairmanDrusha
Jul 3, 2024 5:53 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

For the first couple of weeks of the COVID scam I was sceptical, but thought I should at least err on the side of caution (no “social distancing” or any nonsense like that, it’s a long story). After a couple of weeks passed though, I knew it was all shit. Won’t get fooled again.

LOL
LOL
Jul 3, 2024 6:56 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

There was precedents such as HIV, SARS and the repeated attempts at drumming up fear over ebola. Anyone who did not see through covid immediately is very green at best.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Jul 3, 2024 4:47 PM
Reply to  mastershock

It appears that the only very well known “influencers” who pass the two greatest “Litmus Tests” (and minor ones as well) are James Corbett and David Icke. Icke claimed from early 2020 that there was no Sars-CoV-2 virus in the physical universe, and that it was a total hoax and global FF ops. Both deconstructed the 9/11 inside job (Israel and the US Deep State), Icke in a 5 pound volume titled The Trigger. Corbett especially with his very sardonic video, “9/11- A Conspiracy Theory – The Truth in 5 Minutes.” The only real question in my mind regarding Assange is whether the Cult threw him under the bus. Was he really tortured for years in Belmarsh, or was it all just staged? The Cult thinks nothing of throwing their limited hangout operatives under the bus when their usefulness expires. One need only study the life details of our most… Read more »

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Jul 3, 2024 4:49 PM
Reply to  mastershock

💯👏👏👏👏👏💯
“Good Answer. Good Answer.
I Like The Way You Think!
I’m Gonna Be Watching You.” 🤣👍
~ Sam Kinison
Back To School
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWpHjxgUjs8

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 3, 2024 5:42 PM
Reply to  mastershock

Rogan is such a piece of work, they give him a laundry list of people or causes for him to put in the bad word for them, deftly or otherwise. So that’s the law of the land: draw in an audience by spouting alt platitudes, then misdirect audiences thus lured by little info bombs against certain select targets.

TRT
TRT
Jul 3, 2024 6:18 PM
Reply to  mastershock

Actually, Chomsky failed the litmus test on JFK, 9/11 and Covid, which one could argue are the three major postwar psyops. I guess you think these are minor events with little bearing on the direction of our world. He has also claimed his entire career that the CIA just follows the president’s orders. If this is your idea of what a leading left dissident should be, we’ll have to agree to disagree. .

judith
judith
Jul 4, 2024 12:31 PM
Reply to  mastershock

Alex had “Infowars” face masks also. So disappointing.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 5, 2024 9:16 AM
Reply to  judith

I was reading Jones 20 years ago when he was selling all kinds of encryption tools, and he would know they were useless for certain key things.

antonym
antonym
Jul 3, 2024 12:02 PM

Ok, Assange and Snowden are bad characters -> whistle blowers on good folks, got it.

So the CIA was such genius that it invented Wikileaks in 2006 to throw “the Russians” off the real “scent”?
Ay, ay Sir!
CIA/ MI6 means and opportunity yes, but motive?

Matt
Matt
Jul 3, 2024 2:20 PM
Reply to  antonym

Exactly. Anyone would think that OffGuardian is trying to smear the man. Oh and whatever you do, you MUST NOT countenance the lab leak theory. Stop, don’t look there, it doesn’t matter! (except… well it does).

Rueben
Rueben
Jul 3, 2024 5:54 PM
Reply to  Matt

yeah but it doesn’t

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 3, 2024 6:19 PM
Reply to  Matt

OK Matt let’s play along. Looks rather fun. Oh the lab leak theory! Yes covid came from a lab leak! Covid is real! Quick re-impose the masks, the lockdowns, the social distancing, and most of all, let’s get more vaxxes, let’s role up our sleeves and get stabbed over and over and over!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 3, 2024 5:48 PM
Reply to  antonym

I don’t know if it was such genius, it was pretty transparent to anyone who’d paid some dues, as a conspiracy realist.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 3, 2024 6:17 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Yes but misrepresentation is vital to those anxious to steer us back into the pen.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 3, 2024 9:23 PM
Reply to  antonym

Ten out of ten for demolishing your strawmen.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 3, 2024 10:03 AM

Is it just a case of narratives they know most people will believe, narratives they expect some people won’t believe and narratives they don’t want anybody to believe?

Those who pay the piper call the tune, so the MSM spews out narratives that most people will believe, the ‘alternative’ media spews out what a few people will believe, and the true alternative media tells it like it is.

Three markets. Three products.
And everybody gets their fix.

Convenient, ain’t it?

Meanwhile, we all get $crewed, one way or another.

Thom 9
Thom 9
Jul 3, 2024 12:56 PM
Reply to  Johnny

It’s the 3D’s Disinform, Divide, Destroy this “implosion technique” is very effective as it puts enemies inside the gate right from the start.
I will admit I never paid too much attention to Assange and I never bothered taking the deep dive…Thanks to Francis O’Neil for bringing this to light.

sandy
sandy
Jul 3, 2024 7:14 PM
Reply to  Thom 9

Also the now popular meme “disrupt” by capitalists trying to “improve” the world. 🙁

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 3, 2024 12:58 PM
Reply to  Johnny

It turns out that knowledge is only power when you already have power to begin with.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Jul 3, 2024 5:51 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Information is gradually but steadily replacing currency as the new age “legal tender.”

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jul 3, 2024 6:53 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I’d say we’re ‘there’, with dark players hedging their bets on the human futures market…

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 3, 2024 11:20 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Knowledge is power in and of itself. If you have it you won’t want to comply. As another mythical but great figure of our culture was reported to have said: The trust will set you free.

Who wants to have power over others? It seems only sociopaths do.