Everything you REALLY need to know about Labour’s “antisemitism”
Kit Knightly
The rapidly approaching General Election means accusations of antisemitism are back on the menu, and the mainstream media are eagerly ladling out healthy portions to any and everyone.
It hit the headlines again most prominently yesterday when the Times headlined “Labour antisemitism: Corbyn not fit for high office, says Chief Rabbi Mirvis“.
The possibilty that Rabbi Mirvis may not be completely unbiased has yet to make on to a mainstream frontpage.
The Guardian are, as always, in pole position when it comes to large-scale distribution of propaganda. They have a piece, published today, headlined: “Antisemitism and Labour: everything you need to know”.
However, The Guardian editorial staff – or whichever over-keen but under-trained intern was tasked with assembling this quick hit-piece – made a couple of key omissions and errors.
Here’s everything you REALLY need to know about antisemitism and Labour.
Firstly: There isn’t any. At least, none worth speaking of.
Labour incidents of antisemitism account for 0.08% of the membership. That’s one-third of the rate it occurs in the everyday population of Britain. In short – Labour is 66% LESS antisemitic than the general public.
Racism is, of course, an unpleasant fact of life. There will, unfortunately, always be people who hate other people for wildly non-sensical reasons surrounding their identity. But limiting it to less than a tenth of a per cent is pretty good going, wouldn’t you say?
In fairness to the Guardian, it does reluctantly point this out (although they do feel the need to round up):
Labour says that while such incidents must be dealt with robustly, the context is that complaints connected to antisemitism amount to 0.1% of party membership
However, since this fact renders every other word in the article moot, we would suggest it be in bold, at the top…rather than squirrelled away behind some qualifications deep in the middle.
“But”, I hear you say, “if there’s so little antisemitism in Labour, why is it always in the news?”
Well, that’s an easy question to answer: because of two very awkward facts.
A. The recently adopted, and much-hyped IHRA definition of “antisemitism” is incredibly broad, and essentially allows criticism of Israel to be included under the umbrella of “antisemitism”.
AND
B. The Israeli lobby launched a campaign, funded by their embassy and working through the Labour Friends of Israel, to undermine Corbyn because of his stance on Palestinian rights. This was documented in the Al Jazeera film “The Lobby”.
That is why “antisemitism” is always in the headlines. Because powerful people want it to be.
…and that’s it. That is literally everything you need to know about Labour’s “antisemitism”:
- It is statistically insignificant.
- There was a paid campaign to pretend otherwise.
That’s really all that needs be said.
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Perhaps it is time for someone to ask, “At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”
I was discussing the matter of propagandist patterning or programming with someone at the Craig Murray site and it set me thinking. The media – television in particular – programmes people. A work colleague came in one morning in a state of maximum anxiety over some news story and I could tell by the look of her face that there would have been no point in challenging her. Her mind was like an ocean liner that had been directed down a certain channel and there was no stopping it. The “Labour anti-Semitism” scam is of the same nature. It is a seed that has been planted and nurtured and it has grown into a monstrous carnivore. And if you were to say that there I no evidence for any for this, the ones who have been “implanted” would stare at you as if you were crazy. Ironically this device is… Read more »
I should have pointed out that the matter my colleague was getting wound up was the scaremongering over the US withdrawal from Syria.
I most certainly cannot be said to be antisemitic since I support the Palestiinians’ aim of a return to the homeland they have been expelled from in increasing numbers since the end of the second world war. As many including several Jewish commentators have observed, their ancestors were the original inhabitants of Judea who didn’t flee during the Jewish diaspora and who later converted to Islam. Needless to say, many of the most virulent Zionists are not semitic at all, but the term, as disingenuous as it is, clearly still has its uses.
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I think I’m getting the hang of this now but I’d like a bit of help. After all, it may truly be the case that the soul of Nazism is fermenting in our green and pleasant land and I am too obtuse to pick it up. I was in Tesco’s and saw a headline about the SNP being involved with a candidate who was a disgusting and vicious ant-Semite. I thought I’d get more info on the net so I googled around and – well, surprise surprise, there seem to be anti-Semites popping up everywhere, one of which is …ah but why should I tell the story? Here is a subtitle from the Guardian: “Safia Ali suspended after allegedly antisemitic posts found on old Facebook account” Intrigued, I googled some more sites and I present them here so that others can investigate in order to perhaps uncover something which my… Read more »
As you say, George, no hint as to what Ms Ali was supposed to have said. Surprising, being that the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism (your first link) is very eager to quote ‘examples’ of Jeremy Corbyn’s supposed anti-Semitism but they are extremely vague about Ms Ali’s supposed misdemeanours. Once again, the Labour Party appears too quick to be seen to condemn Ms Ali’s actions before there’s been an internal investigation. I read through the latest CAA article banners on the right-hand side of the link and note that, of the 11 articles listed, nine have ‘Corbyn’ in the headline, one is about Ms Ali but the article doesn’t fail to take the opportunity to mention Corbyn’s ‘anti-Semitism’, and one article is about a police officer who was selling Auschwitz and Nazi memorabilia on Ebay – he was dismissed from the police force but when you read the details you can really… Read more »
“Robust” I just love that word. They can’t get enough of it. Boris is robust, Blair was robust, Thatch was the very soul of robustness. Not the least of Corbyn’s crimes is that he doesn’t have a molecule of robustness in him. And doesn’t the very sound of the word (RRRRRo-Bah!-USSSST!) practically induce tumescence and visions of towering metal knobs blasting their way through the stratosphere? Congratulations for ploughing through those links. I couldn’t stomach it. I just wanted to check if the main article had any actual meat in it. A link which I didn’t post was from the Daily Mail – yes, I’m afraid so. I’m not going to link to it now – since hyperlinks cause Off-G’s moderators to check and it’s really not worth the trouble. Anyway – I’ll give you the gist: First part quoted in full just to get you in the mood: “A… Read more »
In terms of political rhetoric I equate “robust” with “lessons learned”… and more recently “highly likely”. They think these overused cliches sound good to the ears of the general public but they are, in practice, meaningless. I cringe every time I hear any of these expressions used, which is quite often. I’m amazed that whenever public statements are being prepared the scriptwriters are so lacking in imagination that they feel compelled to lazily turn to these old chestnuts. I recall, as a former civil servant myself, many years ago dealing with a national emergency and drafting a ‘Press Release’. My line manager insisted on amending it with the insertion of something along the lines of “The public can be assured that lessons have been learned”. I was, even at that time, fed up with hearing this much used phrase being loosely applied as a means of appearing in control and… Read more »
I should just add, for the sake of completeness, that I do recognise that in some circumstances there should be genuine and effective ways of ensuring “lessons have been learned”, for example through improving legislation, guidance information or working instructions. But in my own situation it was a problem caused by someone unintentionally failing to apply the legislation correctly (not me!), so human error. The same could be said for incidents caused by natural, unforeseen circumstances, or where someone willingly chooses to break the law. In such circumstances it is inappropriate and inaccurate to suggest that “lessons have been learned” to prevent similar incidents occurring in the future, but officials are still drawn to using this misleading expression.
Yes, Judy, I came across all these words and clichés more than a quarter of a century ago written in response to me by a social services department when I questioned their actions and competence. A favourite then was they wanted to implement a system ‘that would stand the test of time’ and that ‘mistakes had been made and lessons had been learned’. I used to respond unendingly with : ‘any outside impartial observer reviewing our correspondence at some later date will readily conclude you have not given sufficient consideration to what you are proposing’ – I think I drove them to distraction.
Phew! Thank goodness…it wasn’t me then. 🙂
If the Zionist Mafia, of which the good rabbi is a prime example, want to weaponise “anti Semitism” to tighten their iron grip over the planet, they have to bear the consequences of this, namely that any and all future bleating about anti Semitism and the sufferings of the poor Jews will be greeted with a deep yawn and a broad belly laugh.
Anyone who criticises Israel or who objects to IDF kiddie killers shooting hundreds of young kids in the head with their Tory supplied sniper rifles and dum dum bullets, is anti semitic.
So we should all be anti semitic now.
Being called anti semitic should be a badge of honour from now on, like being anti paedophile or anti rape or anti poverty.
the folks that make the noise are not semite
nor oriental jew
but pesky naughty dangerous pirates
called ashkanazi
they busted
The way this world is screwed (together) there are several advantages to being born a white male of Northern European stock. Among these, you get to hear all sorts of slur from people who would rarely dare to voice them upfront to the relevant groups. In combination with a life spent a bit all over the planet, among all kinds of social strata, this allows for the following personal and informally rough statistical report:
For 1 (one) individual expressing racist views about Jews (no use for the misnomer “antisemite”), I have heard:
50 people bashing blacks (usually as “niggers”);
100 people bashing Muslims and Arabs;
200 people ridiculing women (aka. “chicks” and the like);
200 people expressing their disgust of homosexuallity.
Dear fellow ethnologists, might the time be ripe for some comparative study of prejudice — i.e. one untainted by the agendas of anti-antisemites?
Apologies to those who are way ahead of me in the uncovering of the Himalayan expanse of bullshit now oozing into sight, but I only recently discovered this: https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2019-07-08/guilt-of-anti-semitism-now-needs-no-evidence/ This article was inspired by an infinitely depressing response from Armando Iannucci which only served to reveal that little sheltered and pampered niche of celebrity useful idiots who have become the guardians of neoliberalism. I think of this niche as “the executive class” i.e. that group of admittedly talented and no-doubt hard working citizens who, having achieved a level of success now feel compelled to act as spokespeople for the society that has granted them that success. This is all very well if they remain truthful but here’s the problem: if they DO remain truthful, they realise that there are matters and views they cannot express without threatening and perhaps even destroying their reputation. At which point they have two options:… Read more »
Here’s another laugh: https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/we-re-between-the-devil-and-the-deep-blue-sea-1.490888 Don’t you just love the way Freedland assumes the role of spokesmen for the Jewish community? Consider the following: “… the prospect of an election in the season of nativity plays and mince pies will, I suspect, be filling Jews with a special kind of dread… … many Jews will reckon they’re being presented with two options that are both painfully hard to stomach… Of course, Jews will have a range of opinions and motivations on every topic, just like any other group of voters. But, on Brexit, there are some specifically Jewish sensibilities at play… Jews don’t need to have it spelled out that Europe has a long and bloody history… Jews were always bound to be wary of a project … Plenty of Jews look at the Britain that, say, Nigel Farage yearns for and wonder where exactly they’d fit in… Jews have developed… Read more »
Tilting at Corbyn is a propaganda ploy — we all know that, its designed to generate a visceral reaction to him, a sort of gut level uncertainty. Currently, as leader of the Labour party, he represents the only opposition to the neoconservative hegemony so any attack will do, no matter how ridiculous. Occasionally these days the Guardian comes out with some gems…..these are in today’s paper:- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/29/rightwing-thinktank-conservative-boris-johnson-brexit-atlas-network https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/29/wealthy-us-donors-gave-millions-to-rightwing-uk-groups What they will tell us is the history and purpose of political think tanks and how fairly substantial amounts of money are making their way from right wing US donors to political campaigns in the UK. There’s also a leak of a election strategy handbook which includes instructions for smearing political opponents. Given all this its pretty safe to say that all those anti-semitism allegations and whispers are most likely bought a paid for by our friends in the USA. Its interesting… Read more »
And note the pure McCarthyism of Corbyn’s treatment. He is constantly being badgered to apologise for anti-Semitism. (Never “alleged” anti-Semitism. You can’t apologise for an “alleged” crime.) If Corbyn ignores the badgering, he is being “evasive”. If he says there is no anti-Semitism to apologies for, that will be transmitted as “Corbyn refuses to apologise for anti-Semitism” (as happened to Chris Williamson). And if he DOES apologise, it will be, “Corbyn finally admits to anti-Semitism!”
“There’s also a leak of an election strategy handbook which includes instructions for smearing political opponents”. As one would expect pre-election, leaflets have been dropping through my letterbox endeavouring to persuade me why I should vote for each of the respective parties. I have yet to receive any such communication telling me how wonderful life will be under the Conservatives. But they haven’t been wasting their time. As a constituent in a Labour seat, I received this morning a Conservative communication giving me all the reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Labour . It is an A4 sheet with a banner header saying “Your Bill for the Cost of Corbyn” and lists Labour’s proposed budget plans and the Tories calculated impact on individual taxpayers. Not a mention of the Conservative’s proposed policies and budget. It simply says beneath the arguable figures “if Corbyn wins, nothing will stop him racking up… Read more »
I see that some deeply concerned celebs have signed a letter denouncing the creeping slide towards a British Holocaust. Joanna Lumley is one of them. For some reason (wishful thinking perhaps?) I always thought she might be somewhere in the Leftish direction. I know that David McCallum, her co-star in “Sapphire and Steel”, was a raging Thatcherite. But at least he had the decency to bugger off to the States.
it’s all part of the Game – Binrot could nip it in the bud a any time, reveal the hidden agenda, the fabrications etc – but bottom line, he’s a Player, Fooling around in same pseudo reality as all the other scheming pedagoging impostors who the indoctrinated masses stubbornly believe their devoted saviours.
……when will these goy untermenschen ever learn that they are just donkeys, put on the earth to serve the chosen people???
Irrefutable proof that Jeremy Corbyn (the lifelong anti-racism campaigner) is, in fact, a racist:
And yet an old friend of mine mentioned in passing that Corbyn was racist. This shit sticks. It’s basically pure conditioning. “Repeat after me!” Most don’t the first time round. Or the second. But by the third, fourth ….hundredth etc., a sizable proportion do.
The scary power of propaganda – getting people to believe that someone such as Corbyn’s a racist.
The excellent (and scathing) response of Norman Finkelstein, whose parents survived the Warsaw Ghetto and the Nazi concentration camps, to Margaret Hodge’s absurd allegations against Jeremy Corbyn:
To depict the leader of Israel as a rage driven unthinking angry hate filled Military Industrial Complex wielding tyrant armed with missiles and ready to launch them against political opposition of any bent is to miss the point that anti-Semitism is in fact very real & hateful. Utilizing an anti-Semitic caricature to denote some sort of opposition argument that anti-Semitism is mere tactical ploy used by Israeli lobby groups is to also miss the point that Jews are systematically being assaulted worldwide by the organized attacks of UK Labour adherents with an axe to grind & an agenda to hide. Off-G is most assuredly using a race baiting caricature to generate discussion opposing Jewish lobby groups that have every right to protect their culture & ethnic group from further onslaught of hatred. Personally, you could not pay me to live in UK culture if this is the sort of thing… Read more »
@MOU: “[OffG is] Utilizing an anti-Semitic caricature”.
Not anti-Semitic but anti-NatanYahoo: the former Prime Minister of Israel really _is_ ” a rage driven unthinking angry hate filled Military Industrial Complex wielding tyrant armed with missiles and ready to launch”; just ask the people of Gaza and Syria (for starters). And I know a few Israelis who say so — which is why the Yahoo lost the recent election: they tipped the balance. NatanYahoo played the Zionazi Strongman card again by firing his missiles against Gaza and Syria, respectively — but that card is now looking tired and worn, the Yahoo having lost both wars in succession.
In the long and inglorious history of loads of utter bollocks, the ”Labour anti-Semitism” claim is the biggest load of utter bollocks of them all.
The ”Labour anti-Semitism” claim is the biggest Fake News story of all time. The moment the MSM started to wet themselves over “Fake News”, their own Fake News quotient sky-rocketed. Indeed – I think it is axiomatic that those who drone about “Fake News” are likely to be the biggest purveyors of it.
Exactly, George. The depressing thing is that so many people are so lacking in critical-thinking skills that they fall for any old nonsense that they read in the papers.
(The Powers That Be are well aware of this, obviously. I’m sure they can’t believe just how easy it all is).
Pompeo promised a gauntlet.
Our secret service thugs and miltary chiefs promised a coup.
The rogues are rabid.
This is heading towards out ‘hanging chard’ election.
Lawyers will be getting bigger xmas socks ready to fill with all the ensuing booty.
The supreme court will be convening on xmas day.
No pasaran!
Craig Murray is promising revelations – the clue he gives is ‘Prince Charles movements’
Royal shit?
That particular royal is certainly very, very shit. As a Welsh person, it’s always embarrassed and infuriated me in equal measure to see a buffoon such as him hold the title of ”Prince of Wales.”
I take my hat off to whoever wrote the following piece of graffiti on a wall near Caernarfon at the time of the buffoon’s investiture: ”Fuck off, Windsor vampires.”
Just don’t mention Palestine, and it will all go away, we can’t have people pointing fingers at them, doing what they claim have had done to them
Imagine if a Russian had made those comments. If this isn’t the very definition of “election meddling” I don’t know what is…
MSM…crickets…
Everything you really need to know about the UK electorate: the number of Jewish Brits is small and declining; the number of British Muslims is big and growing – legally and illegally. Which large GB party wants to recognize Arab nation no.xx, “Palestine” immediately? Who’s votes will they thus attract? What other policy will they therefore wish to continue to grow?
“the number of Jewish Brits is small and declining”
yet the weight they carry is completely out of proportion to their numbers. Why is that?
Why is it we get the thoughts of the Jewish sky pilot in chief plastered across our front pages, meddling in our elections??
Everyone is supposed to be under Election Purdah, but not the Chief Rabbi, oh no..and will anyone remind anyone of this fact?
Cummings is supposed to be under purdah but like Psycho he has rushed through that shower curtain slashing.
Purdah only really applies to people in the public service, and strictly speaking, to civil servants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purdah_(pre-election_period)
The “sky pilot” in question may be regarded as a public servant by his flock, but to the rest of us, he is just a private individual, and is entitled to speak his mind, however misguided. Everyone else, of course, is entitled, and indeed should, point out his bias.
Whose votes.
The number of literate Brits who can stick to the point is also declining.
The few moslems of any influence are all fully paid up Uncle Tom stooge goy Friends Of Israel.
Islam just never carries any responsibility for misdeeds. Koran new (old) excuse book for psychopaths and sociopaths? Why only ‘Mein Kampf” for Nazis taken serious in this field? Is the Koran off limits even here?
Clearly yes, so same problem as nemesis the Guardian (of the Anglo-Arab dollar oil club).
Mein Kampf and the Quran are nursery book standard compared to the pure concentrated evil of the Talmud.
The Chief Rabbi is a supporter of Boris Johnson and the Conservative Party. When the Board of Deputies published their “Enough is Enough” they made it clear that they were opposed to Jeremy Corburn’s “far left” politics.
I agree with you Steve – and I believe that a certain Michael Gove played a hand in all this. Some time ago I watched a parliamentary session broadcast on TV where Gove made the most vile ad hominem attack upon Jeremy Corbyn – maybe someone can find a link to this and post it up for all to see. As for this Chief Rabbi, he certainly does not represent the views of the Jewish community as a whole. I would suggest that it would be better if the views of Rabbi Alissa Wise could be aired for she speaks the truth about all this, particularly regarding the push back against the wholesale slaughter of Palestinians and the injustices they continue to suffer under the Israeli Occupation Forces orchestrated jointly by Trump and Netanyahu with the collusion of the UK government. This is all Deep State mischief.
Is this the speech you had in mind? https://youtu.be/CqqvzVblbsA
This is exactly what In had in mind Steve – thank you for the link which I have now copied !
Watching it, I couldn’t help but find my eyes constantly drawn to May’s sneering and satanic face behind Gove. She too has much to answer for in terms of compounding the serious damage to the face of politics in this country already caused by a number of her PM predecessors. Gove was doing his sycophantic best to reflect what he believed May wanted/demanded to hear and it would have been worded with her full approval and, quite possibly, input from her or her advisers.
That’ll be the Michael Gove who was memorably described on TV by Will Self as ”a little master of the dark arts.”
Corbyn has some ppl scared, because he’s talking sense, like wanting to investigate where ISIS got their weapons and funding from.
Go down that rabbit hole and all sorts of nasties will be lashing out.
It would be nice to have ONE election in the UK or the USA that didn’t involve one nation always trying to rig the results in their favor and I’m not talking about Russia.
the donmeh the assiatic turkick followers of zvi and jacob frank
they cookoo crazy
they doth protest 2 much methinks
where ever eye lay my hat i claim it as home
European cuckoo (Cuculus canorus), lay their eggs in the nests of other birds and have a one-note call
vb, -oos, -ooing or -ooed
3. (tr) to repeat over and over
And here’s some news that also won’t be in the MSM:
https://politicsandinsights.org/2019/11/27/united-european-jews-rabbinical-executive-write-to-jeremy-corbyn-dismissing-uk-media-commentary-as-propaganda/
Thanks for that excellent post showing the appreciation of the United European Jews for Corbyn’s principled positions.
The letters therein will be rigorously suppressed by the MSM, not least by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation which has refused to report facts which have been presented to it showing Corbyn’s support of the Jewish community.
Thank you for your post, Tish – by the way, I have good reason to believe that a certain Michael Gove played a hand in this mischief
Hello Kit, don’t be surprised if the police knock on your door, that same poster featuring Corbyn and Netanyahu was taken down by the police at the LP conference in Brighton, Corbyn said it was Antisemitic poison… “An antisemitic poster outside Labour Party Conference was allowed to remain by police before officers changed their mind and removed it. The poster — which was not officially connected to the Labour Party — depicted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu piloting a fighter jet labelled “the lobby” and yelling “antisemite! antisemite! antisemite!” at Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, who is standing at a podium labelled “Palestinian rights”. The fighter jet is shown having fired a missile labelled “defamation” at Mr Corbyn. The implication of the poster is that the Israeli Government or the ‘Israel lobby’ — portrayed in a militaristic fashion — has weaponised antisemitism and is behind defamatory accusations of antisemitism against the… Read more »
Your comment “Telling the truth is now incompatible, etc…” Is all too apt, Harry.
Since when has Blair ever been noted for telling the truth? If he was capable of shame, he would observe a long period of silence. So would his media idolaters, if THEY were capable of shame.
The adoption of the IHRA was antisemitic: or has all critical reason leached out of the debate? It conferred – along with Netanyahu’s Nation State Laws (which were roughly contemporaneous) – second class dehumanisation on the Palestinian people …and all other people. In conflating Jewishness/the Israeli Nation State/Zionism under one unimpeachable banner it is inherently racist and supremacist. The egregious ‘Working Examples’ extend that conferred ethnocentric exceptionalism and racist supremacism to include – not only criticism of the Israeli Nation State – but 9/11 investigation and any attempted exposure of capitalism’s ‘money multiplier murder’ core ethic. It is pre-determined that criticism of the ‘banks’ means of ‘Jewish bankers’ (see the Mear One pseudo-controversy and *that* mural). Pre-determined not by the Chief Rabbi: but by Jeremy Corbyn in person. https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/jeremy-corbyn-what-i-m-doing-to-banish-antisemitism-from-the-labour-party-a3821961.html Those “hoary myths about “Jewish bankers” and “sinister global forces” where recently extended to include the democracy management activities of the… Read more »
George Soros is not Jewish; he is an atheist. Is it not strange that people who claim to be opposed to anti-Jewish racism adopt the same racialised definition of Jewish as the Nazis, who, for example, identified Christians as Jewish if they had Jewish parents or grandparents. The use of such racialised categories is essentially racist.
I know: that is not the point. The point is that the ‘antisemitism’ canard was personally extended by JC to protect the anti-democracy campaigns of the Sorostitute affiliated organisations. Scratch the surface of Labour policy – especially the GND – and you will find those very organisations. Which makes JC’s action a willful act of self-protectionism. And an extended act of protectionism for the way capitalism really works behind the scene. Now exposure – like Cory Morningstar’s – can be deemed ‘antisemitic’ …which is simply ridiculous. Ask yourself why a ‘decent principled populist’ is character masking and protecting the inner sanctum shadow workings of capitalism …or ‘philanthrocapitalism’? Then ask why he is an apologist for the “Political Economy of the Non-Profit Industrial Complex” (Cory’s subtitle)? These are the very things I feel we should be exposing – not extending fake antisemitism to cover and mask the depth of compassionless imposed… Read more »
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201906131075846426-pompeo-sabotaging-uk-corbyn/
“It could be that Mr. Corbyn manages to run the gauntlet and get elected. It’s possible. You should know, we won’t wait for him to do those things to begin to push back. We will do our level best. It’s too risky and too important and too hard once it’s already happened,”
Got a short response to that BB?
Not really: we are poles apart. What we really need to encounter and deal with is so far beyond these election issues – as they have been reductively determined to within a narrow Overton Window of consent manufacture – that it really does not matter who wins or loses. The incumbent of No10 has no power. Full stop. Power lies in the global governance architecture of the billionaires and MNC/TNCs …and has done most of our lives. (I don’t know how old you are: but power started moving ‘offshore’ to what Susan George called the corporate ‘shadow sovereigns’ about 60 years ago. In earnest: with Thatcher’s policies is when it returned ‘onshore’ and colonised and depoliticised democracy ever since). The incumbent of No10 has no power. Full stop 2. That is because a PM cannot alter the Laws of Nature or thermodynamics in particular. They cannot make the planet infinitely… Read more »
Not really? Really BB?
The US DS and their Aipac worshippers are stopping the Corbynites at all costs and you say that Corbynites are the same as them?
Really BB, just when you looked like you were changing your tune…tch tch.
“depletion of key minerals”
Name me one we have run out of?
Hell they have been accumulating gold and diamonds for eons…
‘Decarbonisation’
We are going to increase it
’15 Nov 2019:Vol. 366, Issue 6467, pp. 782-783 DOI: 10.1126/science.366.6467.782
The next graphene? Shiny and magnetic, a new form of pure carbon dazzles with potential
By W. Wayt Gibbs’
“No short answers”
Never from you BB, never. Just the same old gobbledygook pseudo science – for every occasion.
You are the epitome of the horse to water…
Nice one DunG. I don’t know why BB pens such labyrinthine epics. Everything he says boils down to this:
Breeder reactors could solve that problem, or at least postpone its effects for many generations.
In the 5 years following the election the chances of a war against Iran is highly likely. Israel is too weak to fight on its own and like the Saudi elite are not happy with the mass slaughter awaiting them. They will rely on a a Trump 2nd term and do their best to ensure that happens. What they don’t need is Jeremy Corbyn declining to join them and ‘doing a Mitterrand’. It’s an imperative with Israel to stop a Labour victory; the amount of money backing them is prodigious. They can rely on Trump getting Johnson right up in the front line in what will be a major war far more costly than the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The fascinating thing about the current Israeli propaganda push is that there are no facts, no substance at all to the claims apart from the ‘poison’ said to be descending… Read more »
The form of antisemitism that can only be detected by right wing fanatics, and apartheid apologists is bound to surface every time it looks like there is a faint possibility Britain might veer from the neocon axis to which it belongs: a general election is one such litmus test.
The cost of protecting sectarian values, or various assets linked to US empire is bound to be another surge in the externalities of austerity – but surely this is a price worth paying so that liars and religious fundamentalists can feel safe walking round the few parts of Britain that have not been ravaged by a decade of class war?
jeremy corbyns eyes look very sinister in the image above.
putting aside the facts of
new hitler
has returned for a moment.
the image above is proof s solid and steaming
that corbers does not capture well
my life already
Yes,that does sum it up nicely.
Mailman here. Antisemitic support for Corbyn in an appeal for BDS from eminent Self hating Jews in Israel: “Ban import of Israeli settlement goods We [Israelis who care about the future of our country] believe that the occupation is morally corrosive, strategically shortsighted, and thoroughly detrimental to peace. The international community has taken insufficient action in addressing this reality. Europe continues to support the occupation financially by allowing trade with Israeli settlements, which are illegal under international law. It should be clear that continuing to sell goods that support the erosion of democracy in Israel and the denying of rights to Palestinians is unacceptable. As Israelis, we ask the European Union to ban the import of settlement goods in order to support a just future for Israelis and Palestinians alike. Signed: Ilan Baruch Former Israeli ambassador to South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, and Zimbabwe Prof Eli Barnavi Former Israeli ambassador to… Read more »
And I even read The Guardian article. And they even quoted Jess Phillips. Ugh. How unsurprising is that? Thank you Kit for your short, sharp summation on this deliberate and frankly disgraceful campaign to smear, tar and feather Jeremy Corbyn. I watched The Lobby and was dumbstruck that actual paid up members of the Labour Party were (and are) working hand in glove with the Israeli Embassy, and that truly odious ratfink Regev to undermine and derail their own Party leader. What can you say? Worms? Traitors? Given the fraudulent IHRA definition of antisemitism, if I was to say the Israeli Army murders unarmed protestors and commits war crimes, or Israel is a racist Apartheid state, or Israel is a Rogue state that bombs its neighbours, or a hundred other things I could mention, does this make me an antisemitic under this new IHRA definition? Yes it does. And that’s… Read more »
Yes,and immediately following the adoption of the ridiculous IHRA definition,a new wave of suspensions and expulsions commenced, and I was one of its victims.
Offguardian is back on air! Was going to reply to you when the bastards took us down. I’m sorry to hear that happened John. How long had you been in Labour when you were expelled? That’s the whole purpose of the IHRA definition. Silence people. In a way, I have very nasty Zionist trolls in Australia to thank for coming to Offguardian last year, and having my say (sometimes a bit too much!) Got really sick of being continuously labelled anti semitic, a jew hater, a supporter of terrorists, then being told by one of them he’d dobbed me into Mossad, and claimed whatever Mossad dished out was nothing to do with him because I had bought it on myself due to my ‘extreme hatred’. So, here I am, as you are, and everyone else is who comes here to speak our minds, and vent our spleens and rail at… Read more »
Maybe the way to deal with it is to start ridiculing it in the same way people ridiculed the claims about Russia and Putin interfering everywhere. Corbyn ate my homework. He’d already eaten the dog. Etc.
Antisemitism faded into the background for me when they decided to choose the undemocratic decision of ignoring the 17.4 million voters to leave the EU.
“They” not including the Labour party.
Very funny, the usual crap. Nobody believes any politician these days and that includes the Labour Party with their special non stance on in or out except that out is no longer on the table.
I’m sorry if it’s a trifling difficult for you to grasp, but it’s quite simple really, they’re are going to try and get a deal, if they’re successful they will put it to the public via a referendum , with the alternative of remaining, there that wasn’t so bad was it, oh , and Corbyn has said he is not going to campaign for either options.
Geoff, Please don’t try and sell a pig in a poke, even one with lipstick on it as some kind of super policy that upholds democratic outcomes – it simply does not and will not. First, and foremost, the Remainiacs in the PLP have made it clear they allegedly will go to Brussels, negotiate a Deal superior to that of the Tories and then campaign against said Deal in any subsequent Referendum – so, not only does Brussels have not incentive whatsoever to re-negotiate, but if any negotiation gets off the ground its undermined by the fact the bulk of the PLP will campaign against of the negotiations. So, why bother? The only way to stop this bollocks, to stop the lying and deception is quite simple – you can have on the Ballot two items, both upholding the 2016 democratic outcome, namely: 1.) Accept UK Labour negotiated Deal; 2.)… Read more »
So you think 52/48 is a mandate for the biggest directional change this country will ever likely see? what about the 48% don’t we count?
If memory serves me correct Geoff, at the 2017 GE Labour took over 40% of the vote with 12.9 million people voting for the Party – Labour lost to Ms May and don’t remember having negotiations and a confirmatory vote to endorse the deal the Tories made with the DUP. I had to suck it up, the same as I have to suck it up each time the side I’m batting for is defeated, which, is actually a lot of defeats marked up by me since 2015. Nowhere have I ever demanded the vote be rescinded, or ignored, which, the majority of our Political Groupings are actually demanding, among them a majority of the PLP. Of course, I can whinge, but, if I don’t accept a democratic outcome and keep demanding people are forced to vote until the Elite gets the result it want’s, that ain’t democracy, because it means… Read more »
Moreover, what the Remainiacs mean by a “superior deal” is one which will be basically as close to Remain as they can get away with. So the negotiating team (no doubt led by Sir Endor Benn) will go to Brussels and say “Look guys, just give us a version of Remain that we can still sell as “Brexit” to our ill-educated, racist comrades up north. They can’t tell a Châteauneuf du Pape from a Chateaubriand, so they certainly aren’t going to realise that this is just another version of Remain. It’s silly, I know, but we’ve got to go through the motions…”
Where I differ with you Christopher is that I think Brussels will be only too happy to give them a deal of this nature, since whatever way the “confirmatory referendum” goes, it will mean Remain (in reality).
or the 33 million that didn’t vote to leave
……16 MILLION VOTED REMAIN, 25% OF THE 65M POPULATION, SO THEY’RE OUTNUMBERED 3-1 AND CAN BE IGNORED.
According to the Guardian, Labour is a seething pit of anti-semitism and the Tories are all a bunch of raving Islamophobes. Oh really?? It’s that cut and dried is it?? Does the Guardian really think we are all fucking morons without any critical faculties? Unfortunately it is working. I was staying with my aunty in Nottingham (I’m Australian), and she said she did not like Corbyn…..he was an anti semite. I calmly told her why he was NOT an anti semite. Did it sink in? Not sure. Zionism has been for decades a malevolent influence on the body politic of the Western world. It threatens, bullies and intimidates those who not toe the line, and has no hesitation in destroying the careers, businesses and reputations of those who dare support Palestinian rights. Being anti Zionist is a perfectly moral stance. How can anti-Zionism be anti-semitic when Zionism itself is inherently… Read more »
“…she did not like Corbyn …he was an anti-semite” I hear this all the time from acquaintances. This strikes me as very strange on two levels. First, and with all due respect to the Jewish element within our society, it has never been high on the list of priorities for the majority of gentiles whom I know to consider before an election or any political consideration whether the person they are voting for is anti-semitic. But all of a sudden people are seemingly being brainwashed into considering this above all else and pinning their futures on it. Second, people appear to be prepared to refuse to vote for a purportedly (but without evidence) anti-Semitic political party whilst at the same time supporting, or even switching allegiance to, a xenophobic party with its evidence free hate campaigns against Russia and Syria to name but two directly targeted sovereignties, not to mention… Read more »
“I am hoping that with regard to the extent of the ‘Corbyn=anti-semitic’ business the public will be so overtly pressured into believing it that it will have the opposite effect – it will occur to them that something underhand is going on and they will wake up to the truth.” I share your hopes and likewise I will continue to do my best to spread the word at every opportunity – which I have been doing for some time now. Thank you for the fair-minded and balanced views you expound – for we are being prevented from discussing this by the right wing mainstream media controlled and paid for by the Deep State. I wonder if you happened to see that episode in the House of Commons, some time ago, when Michael Gove made a fevered ad hominem attack upon Jeremy Corbyn ? This gives me reason to believe that… Read more »
although it would appear from this article that most people in Britain are not anti jewish, politically through the creation of such organisations as Labour friends of Israel and the obliging press has a disproporionate effect on the status quo. I think it is apalling that pro Israel lobbies have such power, In my country, Italy we have many lobbies but not that one.
The wells of Truth have been poisoned and the world grows sick.
Tim Berners Lee has an opinion piece in the New York Times which is open to non-paying readers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/24/opinion/world-wide-web.html?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits
It offers Truthers a chance to input alongside the big corporations, to keep www open the way TBLee intended in the days when he designed it as a tool for Open Access to information on Science and Technology for physicists at CERN.
https://webfoundation.org/
The web is our best means for spreading Truth to counter Big Lies such as this AZC slur against Corbyn. The AZC would love to take it over. Here is a chance to make sure the currents of www continue to run clear and sweet.
PS TBLee vs TBLiar: Britain’s glory vs Britain’s shame.
I am afraid when a chief rabbi lies like this they must be sacked without decorum.
He must be repeatedly called a liar, a smearing self-serving publicist and most damning of all, an active promoter of more wars in the Middle East.
A foaming-at-the-mouth racist genocidalist, in other words.
What is it about Jews that makes them free of lying, distorting, smearing and other dark arts?
Everybody knows that there is nothing that makes them free of that as they are up to their oily necks in it. Just like every other sect in society.
If he refuses to retract and apologise, he should experience consequences of his behaviour….the consequences a liar and dissembler of any faith and none should receive.
No special dispensations for a privileged Jew….
In that case most mullahs and ayatollahs would have to be sacked too.
The UK has plenty of the former now. The price for keeping Arab oil in US dollars is wwaaaayyy higher than 30 pieces of silver, it could be 30 European cultures.
Best give another shitload of Zionist money to “Tommy Robinson” then.
It’s a shocking indictment on the state of the U.K. or more accurately England. It feels like very little has moved on since the times of the Tudor’s. Stocks in squares, guillotines and the bloody high churches including Synagogues along with an aristocracy, a major coup to turn the country into serfdom. It could be the 16th century. England has never had a revolution, never uprooted the vicious class system which keeps the plebs in line, it isn’t happening anytime soon judging from the current situation where perfectly intelligent cogent people believe everything they are told even though we are on the edge of fascism. Even though the evidence of extreme corruption in high places leaves the entire country in poverty, crumbling infrastructure, hundreds of deaths of the totally disenfranchised on streets, an NHS crippled on life support. BUT Corbyn is an anti Semitic, a man who has worked for… Read more »
But will Johnson win? Do you not think that there is a chance of a hung Parliament followed by an SNP/Labour coalition?
SNP/Labour/Lib-Dem coalition even (despite what Swinson may say about Corbyn not being fit to be PM – For one thing, there are plenty within the PLP who would happily give Corbyn the metaphorical ice-pick treatment in return for power in a coalition. And second, it’s not certain that Swinson will remain the leader of the Lib Dems (or even an MP if her seat is as unsafe as has been said). Lib Dems on the doorstep have been finding that she and her “Revoke” policy have been a bit of a liability; I can’t understand why they elected her as leader in the first place).
The English Civil War was essentially a revolution as it broke the strangle hold of the feudal legal system opening the doors of Capitalist development. Have ‘faith’ in the masses, it will take time, but a tipping point will eventually occur, leading inevitably to some form of social uprising. The 2008 economic downturn ushered in a new historical period; we now live with history in the making.
(eg there are a number of very tense social developments occurring in Latin America at present).
”England has never had a revolution.”
Really? How would you describe the events which took place between 1641-1649. A civil war between Parliament and the King, in which Charles I had his head chopped off for Treason. Unfortunately there eventually followed a counter-reformation when his son Charles II was brought back to the UK from France by the traitor Thomas Fairfax, one-time commander-in-chief of the New Model Army. But the restoration was never complete and the Sovereign and Parliament ruled jointly and this hasn’t changed, unfortunately.
It would be truer to say the England never had a bourgeois revolution unlike the US for example. That’s why the aristocratic rentier class still has great power and influence in this Sceptered Isle. See Trotsky’s writings in this in ‘Where is Britain Going?’
Francis, I read the same British History books at school; but have come to agree with Hilaire Belloc: England’s real revolution — the one which installed the Big Landowners and their associated Money Lenders in power to this day — was Henry Tudor’s dispossession of Church Lands, handing them over to his followers. England after the bloody and repressive Tudor Revolution has always reminded me of the USSR — including the fact that it produced some great writers. Charles Stuart pere-et-fils are never given credit for the making of Great Britain by building up the Royal Navy and founding the Royal Institution. In fact, by a perversion of truth typical of Cromwell and his financial backers to this day (vide the present thread) the merchant class in Parliament accused Charles pere of wasting England’s resources on Ship Money.
PS https://youtu.be/CYudowTKytU?t=3
Also worth pointing out that that revolution led eventually to a dictatorship.
Would it be true to say that America had a “bourgeois” revolution. Usually such a revolution reacts against a Feudal system and America never had that. I think that many Marxists (e.g. Gramsci) were fascinated by America for this very reason i.e. that that country didn’t have any of those royalist hangers on.
The revolution is NOT being televised.
“The revolution WILL put you in the driver’s seat
The revolution will not be televised ”
We need our own version of Gill’s phrophecy now!
There is a story that the Viennese satirical writer Karl Kraus stopped writing the moment you would have expected him to go into overdrive: the moment the Nazis started up. One theory is that he was so appalled at the sheer stupidity of Nazi propaganda that he realised he could not possibly parody it. It was already a parody of itself. I felt like Kraus when I dipped into BBC iPlayer for last night’s 6 O’clock News. . Jesus! That was vicious stuff! A little perfunctory nod towards “balance” with a comment on Conservative Islamophobia (about 5 seconds?) before launching stridently back to the Labour “crisis”. Kuenssberg herself thundering wrath at Corbyn. After the Mirvis tale of woe, an interview from another Rabbi – a “liberal” one this time. But he too is terrified of the abyss we are facing! Then, inevitably, the Nazis got a mention. Ooh also a… Read more »
You could of course start a petition condemning Laura Kuennsberg for crash breaches of the BBC code of ethics and if and when it reaches 1 million signatures take it to her and present it to her live on TV?
I am sure the BBC controllers would not object to that…and certainly not Jacob Rees-Mogg…
Presstitutes in the state broadcasters understand perfectly well that they can breach their employer’s code of ethics with impunity, provided they confine their bias to lying in the service of the establishment. The ABC, to name one, has shown that observance of its ‘code of practice’ is entirely optional and depends on its assessment of where the political power lies.
One evening in August last year, there was a mass boycott of the BBC. Time for another?
Yep…the BBC are purveyors of Establishment shit. They are a danger to us all.
I suggest there is a third and perhaps more fundamental reason for the anti-Semitism smear. Corbyn is the first Labour leader in four decades with an actual Labour bent and it scares the hell out of the neoliberal consensus. There is no way they are going to allow him in. Hence …Corbie-Hitler!
Exactly. He represents real Labour and its values and not the corrupt “New Labour” introduced by Blair.
Christ was the biggest anti-Shem there ever was.
On the contrary, Rabbi Yeshuah of Nazareth was very much a Jew, a follower of enlightened rabbis such as rabbi Hillel of Babylon, and the most prominent exponent of the strain of enlightenment which one finds, for example, in the Prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah, and in the book of Ruth (a gentle reproof to the aggressive chauvinism of Moses, Ezra and Nehemiah). Yeshuah’s generous, conscience-following attitude goes all the way back to Father Abraham. “Do not do to others what you would not like them to do to you. Judge no man until you have walked a mile in his shoes” — Hillel “The Nations shall beat their swords into ploughshares, the Lion shall lie down with the Lamb” — Isiah “Whither thou goest I shall go, thy people shall be my people” — Ruth “There is room for both of us in this Land; if you want the West… Read more »
Professor, what is the promise of the jew religion to the Jew people? Every religion offers a benefit as a way to draw people to the religion. It is the nature of all religions, so what benefit does Judaism offer Jews?
Answer—the promise of the Jew religion to the Jew people is the subjugation of the non-Jew.
Now Christ was the son of God. He had all the powers of God. The Jews believed Christ was the son of God. Christ refused to meet the demands and expectations the Jews had for their messiah. Christ refused to enslave human kind for the Jews. The son of God with the power of life and death, chose to die rather than enslave human kind for the Jews. Anti-Shem enough for you professor?
@Robert Browning: “The son of God with the power of life and death, chose to die rather than enslave human kind for the Jews. ”
Robert, I am not a professor but you sound like a nutty professor. Your Christ is not the Jesus of the New Testament that I learnt about in Sunday school. He sounds more some backwoods Falangist, exulting in glory and the power of life and death; and you sound like a real Jew-hater, of the type that which to be disgustingly common in Europe and its colonies, before the Nazis showed what mass perversion of the human spirit that sort of ethnic hatred could lead to.
The biggest illness an adult can suffer is believing that the MSM is honorable, truthful, evenhanded, humane and principled.
The best vaccination I ever had in my life was spending enough time in the real world to glean concrete examples of media ignorance, lying, deceit, betrayal and worse by the age of 23.
If Jeremy Corbyn wants the NHS to thrive he should vaccinate all 16-30 year olds with ‘protection from susceptibility to media brainwashing’.
Vierotchka…. Thank god for George Galloway’s tell it like it is common sense. The same scum who have smeared and denigrated Jeremy Corbyn are the same scum who have smeared and denigrated Julian Assange. They are not reporters. They are stenographers for power.
Stenographers For power SFp’s . . . liked that, Gezzah: ‘you can’t take me down…?’ note the small ‘p’ for pipsqueaks in power, in terms of vision: another small ‘v’, highlighted by 5iSate-wide censorship (max.’V’ for volumes of self-visions, in the mirror) 😉
Makes me think of Love & Hate & Un-denial liability ” … How much more are we supposed to tolerate . . .? “ Michael Kiwanuka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMZ4QL0orw0
Greetings,
Tim.
P.s. search PM Boyko Borisov & the ‘Don’s White House State Visit, priceless body soap opera language: worthy of a good imperial leather lathering and a Carbon Neutral Volcanic Eruption of laughter, subsequently . . . 🙂
Oh gosh… Was going to reply this morning, like 15 hours ago. And got a bit sidetracked… Greetings Tim, yeah, I have made a Pre New Year’s pledge! Will no longer refer to THOSE creatures as ‘journalists’ (am making an exception here for you). In future they shall be known as: Presstitutes, Stenographers For Power, (or… Sycophantic Fuckwit Parrots), Maggot Media or simply Worms. No more referring by name to a once (long time ago) fairly respected profession…. Before people had access to something called the Internet. And social media. Thanks for the clip as well. Down in Aussie we’re in the midst of that great American institution…. Black Friday Sales!! the shop shop shop till ya drop bingefest that Aussie have taken to like a duck takes to water. Do they have Black Friday sales in Bulgaria? I’m sure there’ll be millions of McDonald’s in nearly every city and… Read more »
Distrust of the malevolent influence of the Jewish hierarchy would be fairly common amongst the general population.
The Zionist lobby are burning their bridges by demonising Corbyn.
They will bay for his blood when he becomes PM.
Interesting times ahead.
The only anti-semite here is the Rabbi.
If UK voters can’t see that then there are many more important and relevant issues they are amiss on.
just because the rabbi is an ashkanazi khazar with some poolish rushkick bloods
just because the rabbi has zero connection with the near or middle easts.
just because the rab is not an oriental jewisher
not authentick of any kind
for that matter
does not mean he cannot call folks
like you and corbyn
out as new hitler new 1939
he believes he is the real deal they all do these turkick pirates
the rabbi
he uses his emotion for making the connections too the past histories.
he makes up the stories and through belief
and emotional content it becomes
is real
Spot on
In The Israel Lobby a definitive work by two respected American historians, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, the penetration of Israeli influence in the US is a fact of life. Zionist organizations are readily recognisable. These include the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Anti Deformaion League (ADL) gthe Jewish Institute for National Security of America (JINSA), The American Enterprise Institute, as well as support from wealthy Jewish contributors such as Sheldon Adelson, who apparently wants to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran. Woe betide any politician who comes into the crosshairs in any of these organizations and persons. When Netanyahu gets himself invited to speak before both Houses of Congress the then President – Obama – isn’t even informed. Such is the influence of Israel. US support of Israel is total. This is just a political fact of life. I would argue that there is, if anything, it… Read more »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_Kingdom