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Coronavirus Lockdown and What You Are Not Being Told – Part 2

Iain Davis

In Part 1 we looked at the reasons why questioning the coronavirus lockdown, despite the ever present allegation, does not demonstrate a callous disregard for human life. We are going to expand on why it doesn’t in this article.

I am based in the UK so much of this discussion relates to the decisions of the British State, but this is a global policy agenda and similar policies are found across the developed world. Effectively a small group of policy decision makers have placed an estimated 3.5 billion people under house arrest. It is only possible for them to do so with our consent. Consent is carefully cultivated by controlling the information we are given.

For the vast majority their only source of information is the corporate mainstream media (MSM) and the public announcements of the State. This article is written, as ever, in the hope people will do their own research and make up their own minds.

We are going to look at the evidence which strongly suggests the State and the MSM, adhering to a globalist agenda, have colluded to mislead the public into believing the COVID 19 (C19) threat is far greater than it actually is.

C19 can be fatal for those with pre-existing comorbidities, and possibly even some without, as can other forms of pneumonia and influenza-like respiratory illness. However, while every C19 death has been reported, none of the far greater number of people who have died in the UK this year from other respiratory infections have even been mentioned.

Systems have been created to ensure the C19 statistics are as terrifying as possible. Their statistical product is so vague it borders upon meaningless. It seems we have been inculcated with misplaced fear to justify the lockdown regime, to convince us to accept it and prepare us for what is to come.

I apologise for the article’s length but I hope you will read it in its entirety. There’s a lot of ground to cover, so please grab a coffee before we begin.

Lockdown Advised By WHO?

The World Health Organisation (WHO) is financed through a combination of assessed and voluntary contributions.

Assessed contributions are paid by nation states for WHO membership and figures are released quarterly.

Voluntary contributions are additional contributions from member states and “other partners.” For some reason these figures haven’t been reported for more than three years.

About 80% of the WHO’s finances come from voluntary contributions.

In its most recent 2017 voluntary contribution report the WHO accounted for the $2.1 billion it received from private foundations and global corporations.

This compared to just over $1 billion voluntarily provided by governments.

Contributors included GlaxoSmithKline, Bayer AG, Sanofi, Merck and Gilead Sciences whose drug remdesivir is currently being trialled, along side the off patent hydroxychloroquine, as a possible preventative treatment for COVID 19.

The remdesivir trial is part of the WHO’s SOLIDARITY trials.

The third-largest single contributor in 2017 was GAVI. Formerly called the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization, they contributed nearly $134 million. GAVI are partnered with the WHO, UNICEF, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Bank to sell vaccines globally.

The World Bank contributed nearly $146 million themselves and the largest individual payment, by some margin, at nearly $325 million came from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF). Though like many other foundations and corporations, through their various networks of interlinked partnerships, their overall contribution was much higher.

Among other beneficiaries of the BMGF’s generosity are the Vaccine Impact Modelling Consortium (VIMC) led by Professor Neil Ferguson.  They are based at Imperial College London and are directly funded by the BMGF and GAVI. Their objective is to provide statistical data analysis for the BMGF and GAVI in order for them to sell more vaccines.

Prof. Ferguson not only led the team who created the hopelessly inaccurate prediction which the U.S and UK governments based their lockdown regimes upon, he also co-founded the MRC Centre for Outbreak Analysis and Modelling who worked with the WHO in 2009 to create ridiculous computer models predicting the H1N1 pandemic.

In 2009 the world went crazy after the WHO declared the H1N1 influenza pandemic. This resulted in billions being spent on very expensive H1N1 vaccines and antiviral treatments although it turned out the pandemic was indistinguishable from seasonal flu.

The only people who benefited from pointless vaccines and unnecessary medication were the manufacturers GlaxoSmithKline, Roche and Novartis. Each of these pharmaceutical corporations were among the largest voluntary contributors to the WHO in 2008/2009 financial year.

With an $84 million investment, the Swiss pharmaceutical giant Roche were the largest single contributor into the WHO’s coffers that year. Luckily, as it turned out, they could afford it because sales of their unnecessary Tamiflu H1N1 medication rocketed to more than £3 billion following the WHO’s declared H1N1 pandemic. Which was just a coincidence.

The whole debacle resulted in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) launching an investigation into the WHO to look into the issue of a “falsified pandemic.” During the subsequent hearing the epidemiologist Dr Wolfgang Wodarg said:

The WHO basically held the trigger for the pandemic preparedness plans, they had a key role to play in deciding on the pandemic. Around 18 billion dollars was spent on this pandemic worldwide. Millions were vaccinated for no good reason. It is not even clear that the vaccine had a positive effect, because it was not clinically tested.”

At the same hearing Professor Dr Ulrich Keil, Director of the WHO Collaborating Centre for Epidemiology at the University of Munster, said:

A number of scientists and others are questioning the decision of the WHO to declare an international pandemic. The H1N1 virus is not a new virus, but has been known to us for decades […] In Germany, about 10,000 deaths are attributed to seasonal ‘flu, especially among older and frail people. Only a very small number of deaths, namely 187, can be attributed to the H1N1 virus in Germany – and many of those are dubious.”

Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus

Of course nothing came of it because PACE were making allegations against the World Health Organisation. The WHO don’t break the rules, they make the rules. Amazingly, probably because no one ever learns anything from history, we all believed the WHO this time.

To imagine these huge investments made by pharmaceutical corporations and private foundations don’t buy influence is so naive it barely warrants mention. The WHO is essentially a policy lobby group for the powerful globalists who own it. Why an organisation with such significant and clear conflicts of financial interests should be considered a global health authority is anyone’s guess.

On the 11th March the WHO declared the SARS-CoV-2 global pandemic. On 15th March 2020 UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock stated that vulnerable people would be required to quarantine themselves or self isolate. 

The State issued a set of guidelines for avoiding the spread of infection. On the 16th March UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson issued a statement advising people to practice social distancing, avoid non essential travel and warned that drastic measures may be needed to protect the NHS and the most vulnerable.

On the 18th of March the Director General of the BMGF funded WHO Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus gave a virtual press conference. He stated:

WHO continues to call on all countries to implement a comprehensive approach with the aim of slowing down transmission and flattening the curve. This approach is saving lives and buying time for the development of vaccines and treatments. As you know, the first vaccine trial has begun……This virus is presenting us with an unprecedented threat”

We are about to discuss why COVID 19 is not an unprecedented threat. On the 20th of March Boris Johnson ordered the closure of all venues for social gathering, such as pubs, cafes and restaurants. On March 23rd the UK State legislated for the Coronavirus Act and placed the UK in lockdown. Just as the WHO and their other partners called on them to do.

Lockdown To Protect the NHS

The NHS was created to protect us, that’s why we pay for it. It is difficult to pinpoint exactly when this relationship flipped on its head.

After years of chronic underfunding by successive governments of all persuasions, interminable mismanagement, savage ideologically driven austerity cuts, crippling Private Finance Initiative debts and increasing privatisation for corporate profit, there is absolutely no reason to believe the State cares about either our health or the NHS.

Every single major health policy and legislative decision, made over the last few decades, clearly demonstrates that it doesn’t.

The basic premise, apparently believed by so many, that the State has now decided to act to keep us safe is tragically comical. For us to swallow this tripe we need to be sufficiently terrified to willingly accept the imagined protection of the State. The MSM has been doing its best to make sure we are and that we do. The 24 hour fear-porn cycle is a wonder to behold.

NHS dance routines are a sensation

Most of this is based upon claims about deaths and stories about desperately overloaded hospitals struggling to cope with the pressure. Meanwhile, as millions of British people remain under house arrest, glued to their TV’s and fondle pads, the data that has been released by official sources doesn’t back up any of the tales we have been spun.

This inconvenient truth has been reported by very few in the MSM print media and has been met with deafening silence on our TV’s. Rather, the data has been convincingly spun to tell a story that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Evidence of NHS overload is entirely absent. The State will claim this is thanks to the lockdown regime. Certainly the fact that people with other serious conditions haven’t been treated has alleviated pressure on the NHS. Unfortunately, the evidence also indicates the lockdown regime is probably killing them in increasing numbers. Though it seems unlikely the State will claim responsibility for that.

The Financial Times reported that close to half of the UK’s hospital beds were empty. With just 60% of acute beds occupied this is 30% less than this time last year.

In the same period last year the NHS was creaking under the pressure of demand, prompting then Prime Minister Theresa May to suggest scrapping NHS targets. Once again, the State was only concerned with how the figures looked not about people dying on trolleys in corridors. This year it cares, honest!

During a supposed global pandemic we’ve had the lowest ever national A&E attendance. Manchester hospitals report a 57% bed occupation rate compared to their average of 94%.

Most concerning is the huge drop in cardiology patients. With Heart disease killing more than 40,000 people under the age of 75 every year in the UK, and with a reported rise in fatalities last year, this prompted Professor John Howarth from North Cumbria Integrated Care NHS Foundation Trust to express grave concern.

“I am really worried that people are not seeking the help they need for important conditions other than Covid-19.”

Nightingales – empty!

Indeed, if your world view is supplied by the MSM, deaths from anything other than C19 seem to have become practically irrelevant in the space of a few weeks. The Health Service journal (HSJ) reports that the NHS has four times as many empty beds as normal. Confirming that more than 40% of acute beds are unoccupied.

Even in London, the alleged epicentre of the C19 pandemic, that figure is still nearly 29%.

The much publicised Nightingale temporary hospitals, a mobilisation the MSM were keen to portray as putting the nation on a war footing, which were allegedly required to cope with the surge of C19 patients, aren’t necessary.

Of the 1,555 Intensive Care Unit (ICU) beds available in London 1,245 are occupied. So questions must be asked why 19 patients, who presumably needed intensive care, were seemingly moved unnecessarily into the 4,000 bed London Nightingale over the Easter weekend.

Contrary to the claimed justification for the lockdown, as many have repeatedly warned, the health consequences of the lockdown regime could far outweigh the risks presented by C19.

Excess mortality this year is higher than average but reported coronavirus deaths form a smaller part of that bigger picture.

The HSJ reported a senior NHS sources who stated:

There could be some very serious unintended consequences. While there will be a lot of covid-19 fatalities, we could end up losing more ‘years of life’ because of fatalities relating to non-covid-19 health complications.”

The deputy director of research at the Nuffield Trust Sarah Scobie echoed this concern:

The PHE [Public Health England] data suggests there could be significant problems already developing for heart disease related conditions patients, for example. Attendances relating to myocardial infarction at emergency departments have dropped right down, whereas ambulance calls in relation to chest pain have gone right up.”

Not only is there no evidence that the NHS is even close to struggling to cope with a non-existent surge, the likely severe health consequences of the State’s lockdown policy are starting to emerge. When we look at the data on claimed COVID 19 deaths the picture only becomes more alarming.

Lockdown & Reported Deaths

Everyday, for weeks, the MSM has reported every single UK death which was supposedly due to COVID 19. This has been central to their effort to convince us of the severity of the pandemic. The reporting always supports the State’s narrative that the lockdown is necessary.

Under normal circumstances, when someone dies, a person who knows them well, such as a family member, or someone who was physically close to the person at the time of death, is the qualified informant who can notify the registrar of the circumstances and non medical details of the death.

That is not true for suspected C19 patients. For them a funeral director, who has almost certainly never met the deceased, can be the qualified informant. This places far more emphasis on the Medical Certificate of Cause of Death (MCCD) as registration can take place without any input from family or anyone else familiar with the circumstances of the death.

Prior to the Coronavirus Act, the last attending doctor to the deceased had the responsibility to register the death. However, in the case of suspected C19 deaths, that duty can be discharged by a doctor who has never met the patient.

The UK State guidance for C19 patients states:

A doctor who attended the deceased during their last illness has a legal responsibility to complete a MCCD….. this duty may be discharged through another doctor who may complete an MCCD in an emergency period….In an emergency period, any doctor can complete the MCCD….For the purposes of the emergency period, the attendance may be in person, via video/visual consultation, but not audio (e.g. via telephone)….Where the certifying doctor has not seen the deceased before death they should delete the words last seen alive by me on.

When an MCCD is completed the medical causes are listed sequentially with the immediate cause of death at the top and the underlying cause of death at the bottom of the list. For example, heart failure caused by pneumonia stemming from influenza would list the immediate cause of death as a heart attack and the underlying cause as influenza. That underlying cause is usually diagnosed through positive test results.

It is crucial to understand that for C19 to be recorded on the MCCD, as the underlying cause of death, there does not need to be any test based diagnosis of the syndrome. Diagnosis can simply be from observation of symptoms or CT scans. The guidance to medical practitioners states:

if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID 19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available. In the circumstances of there being no swab, it is satisfactory to apply clinical judgement.

Given this seeming lack of clarity, guidance from the Royal College of Pathologists (RCP) is also concerning.

In circumstances where C19 is merely believed to be a factor they advise that there is no need for a post mortem.

If a death is believed to be due to confirmed COVID-19 infection, there is unlikely to be any need for a post-mortem examination to be conducted and the Medical Certificate of Cause of Death should be issued.”

Karry Mullis

Post-mortems are not standard procedure and are normally required only where the cause of death is unknown or where the circumstances appear suspicious. However, the recommendation of the RCP is another part of a systemic approach to C19 deaths which is inexplicably opaque.

Even when a sample test is undertaken to identify C19, questions remain. The RT-PCR test commonly used to test for C19 does not appear to be very reliable, nor is it designed as a diagnostic tool for identifying viruses.

study from the Department of Microbiology, Queen Mary Hospital, University of Hong Kong found wild variations in RT-PCR accuracy. It was found to be between 22%  – 80% reliable depending on how it was applied. This general unreliability has been confirmed by other studies. Further studies show clear discrepancies between RT-PCR test results and clinical indication from CT scans.

Most of these studies indicate RT-PCR failure to detect C19 in symptomatic patients, so-called “false negative” tests. When Chinese researchers from the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics School of Public Health conducted data analysis of the RT-PCR tests of asymptomatic patients they also found an 80% false positive rate.

Having passed peer review and publication the paper was subsequently withdrawn for what seem quite bizarre reasons. It was removed from the scientific literature because it “depended on theoretical deduction.” The paper was not testing an experimental hypothesis, it was an epidemiological analysis of the available statistical data. All such statistical analysis relies upon theoretical deduction. The claimed reason for withdrawal suggests that all data analysis is now considered to be completely useless.

It seems scientific claims that C19 numbers are underestimated are fine, claims they are overestimated are not. Either way, whether false negative or false positive, there is plenty of evidence to question the reliability of the RT-PCR test for diagnosing COVID 19.

The MSM has suggested that enhanced RT-PCR testing can detect the virus SARS-CoV-2 and, in particular, the amount of it in the patient’s system, the viral load. This is disinformation.

The Nobel winning scientist who devised PCR, Karry Mullis, speaking about the use of PCR to detect HIV stated:

Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers [viral load]…These tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all…The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.”

Reported C19 deaths can be registered without a test clearly diagnosing any coronavirus, let alone C19. The death can be signed off by a doctor who has never seen the patient and can then be registered by someone who has never met the deceased and was nowhere near them when they died.

Further provision in the Coronavirus Act then allows for the body to be cremated, potentially against the family’s wishes, ensuring a confirmatory autopsy is impossible, though it is unlikely one will be conducted anyway.

To say this raises questions about the official reported statistics is an understatement. Questions in no way allege either medical malpractice or negligence. Neither are required for significant confusion to occur because the potential for widespread misreporting of causes of death seems to be a core element of the C19 MCCD process the State has constructed.

Lockdown the Data

At the time of writing The UK is said to have 93,873 cases with 12,107 deaths attributed to C19. Both the infection and mortality rates are showing a declining trend.

Given the apparent haphazard reliability of tests, strange reporting procedures and oddly relaxed registration requirements, the claimed attribution is pretty weak.

Coupled with the data which shows unusually low hospital admissions, with little to no evidence of the widely anticipated “surge,” justification for the State’s lockdown of society and the economy appears painfully thin. The evidence base does not improve when we look at the official data.

ONS Data

The Office of National Statistics (ONS) have released analysis of the C19 deaths that occurred during March 2020

In total 3,912 deaths were recorded of which 3,372 (86%) listed C19 as the underlying cause of death. Of these, 38 (1%) were cases where C19 was only suspected as the underlying cause, meaning neither a test nor any clear clinical presentation was observed. The problem is that the RT-PCR test, supposedly confirming C19, doesn’t tell us much either.

Of the 3,372 deaths recorded with underlying C19, approximately 3,068 had at least one comorbidity with the majority having more than two. Not only does the RT-PCR test fail to provide any reliable proof that these people even had C19 the existence of other comorbidities provides further reason to question if the C19 was a contributory factor.

Of the 3,912 people who died, 540 of them merely mentioned C19 on the MCCG with no indication that it contributed to the deaths. With at least 91% of patients having comorbidities, there is very little evidence that the people who died with a C19 infection wouldn’t have died without.

The age profile of the deceased is practically identical to standard all cause mortality in the UK. If C19 is a viral pandemic it is one that behaves like normal mortality.

And yet, despite all this, the MSM reported every one of them to the public as confirmed C19 deaths.

Another, perhaps even more alarming possibility has arisen. While heart disease accounts for 14% of C19 comorbidities, reported deaths from heart disease have mysteriously dropped by the corresponding amount during the same period. This clearly indicates that patients dying from other causes, such as heart failure, are being recorded, and certainly reported by the MSM, as dying from C19.

This illustrates a far more complex picture than we have been given to believe. Why have the State and the MSM made so many alarming claims about people dying from C19 when the evidence supporting those claims is, at best, questionable?

None of this is the fault of medical practitioners or bodies like the Office Of National Statistics (ONS). The ONS system has been both reliable and informative for many years. Yet once again, in the case of C19 deaths, the State felt it was necessary to make some changes.

On the March 30th the MSM reported that the UK State had instructed the ONS to change the way they record C19 deaths. Explaining the change to recording “mentions” of COVID 19 an unnamed spokesperson for the ONS said:

It will be based on mentions of Covid-19 on death certificates. It will include suspected cases of Covid-19 where someone has not been tested positive for Covid-19.”

This habit of states deciding to change the C19 mortality data, by adding in people who are assumed to have died from it, appears to be a global policy. The China CDC did the same and the U.S have just added a significant number to their statistics.

In every case the revision increases and never decreases the fatality statistics. Why do states around the world feel the need to do this? Is it because they are concerned about statistical rigour or are they more concerned about justifying their lockdown regimes?

The ONS reported all cause mortality for week 14 ending April 3rd. They recorded 16,387 deaths which was 6,082 higher than the ONS 5 year average. They stated that 21.2% of total deaths “mentioned” Covid 19. The MSM immediately pounced on this claiming this meant COVID 19 had pushed up the death toll to unprecedented levels. This was outrageous disinformation. That is not what the data showed.

The ONS stated that of the 6,082 excess deaths 3,475 “mentioned” coronavirus. Of those 1,466 also mentioned influenza and pneumonia. Consequently, while registered deaths are 6,082 above the 5 year average, only 2009 of those solely mentioned C19 with 4,073 mentioning other underlying causes. It is worth remembering only C19 deaths can be “mentioned” without a clear positive test result

Therefore, at least 67% of that excess mortality is being caused by other unknown factors that no one seems to care about. The MSM have absolutely no interests at all in this more severe health crisis. Why not? Once again they have completely misled the public and deny the existence of another, more significant reason for concern. Perhaps anticipating this the ONS stated:

“Influenza and Pneumonia” has been included for comparison, as a well-understood cause of death involving respiratory infection that is likely to have somewhat similar risk factors to COVID-19.”

Short of openly stating that C19 is no more deadly than any other pneumonia like illnesses, the ONS appear to be trying to get a message across. Perhaps they can’t say it directly.

ONS data showing mortality in 2020 comparing C19 to other respiratory illness

As the so called pandemic has progressed more in depth studies have begun to emerge. Initial findings from Chinese scientists indicate that SARS-CoV-2 has an infection fatality rate (IFR) of between 0.04% and 0.12%. which is comparable to flu pandemics with an estimated IFR of 0.1%. None of these have required a lockdown regime.

Further studies have highlighted the overestimated risk allegedly presented by SARS-CoV-2. [Including a new study released just yesterday – ed.]

For the year to date, the ONS showed a comparison of the deaths mentioning C19 and deaths mentioning pneumonia and Influenza. Deaths this year from pneumonia and influenza appear to stand at around 30,000.

Quite clearly, according to the ONS, other respiratory infections, like pneumonia and influenza, currently pose a significantly greater threat to life than COVID 19. Something is certainly pushing up mortality in the UK but, at the very most, only 33% of that increase is vaguely attributable to C19.

Lockdown To Cover A Myriad Of Sins

The MSM have recently started floating the idea that the lockdown regime could become the new normal.

According to the State it may be necessary to go in an out of various levels of the regime from time to time, depending on the State’s threat assessment. This is based on scientific research bought and paid for by pharmaceutical corporations and private foundations including GlaxoSmithKline (Wellcome Trust).

Immunity control citizen

Seeing as it is increasingly evident that the C19 threat has been massively over-hyped, why would the State and its globalist partners want the economic destruction to continue?

Firstly it delivers on a number of long held globalist objectives.

A cashless society, mandatory vaccination, universal basic income, a surveillance state, restricted freedom of movement and a complete restructuring of the global economy have already been touted as necessary following the “pandemic.” All of these ambitions and economic realities existed before the pandemic first emerged in China.

The State has already moved towards censoring anyone who questions vaccines. It is vital to understand that the canard of the antivaxxer is a meaningless trope.

It is entirely possible to accept that vaccines can contribute towards effective preventative public health programs while, at the same time, questioning the efficacy and purpose of some vaccines. Vaccines are not all the same.

The State’s and the MSM’s insistence that anyone who question any vaccines is some sort of whacked out, new age, science Luddite is total nonsense. No one will be permitted to question vaccines, and that fact alone should be sufficient to raise anyone’s suspicion.

From GAVI to the WHO and from the BMGF to Imperial College the response to the C19 pandemic has been driven by foundations and pharmaceutical corporations with considerable investments in vaccine development. Of course they would like to see global mandatory vaccination.

To just ignore this, because you’ve been told by the MSM that questioning any vaccine is a “conspiracy theory”, not only evidences a lack of critical thinking it demonstrates a degree of brainwashing.

Global financial institutions, such as the IMF, have been advocating the cashless society for years. A cashless society will allow central banks to control every aspect of your life.

Everything you buy can be tracked and your purchases could easily be limited to exclude certain items.

Although there is very little evidence that handling cash presents any increased threat of infection that hasn’t stopped the MSM from selling the idea.

The impact of the lockdown regime across the globe has already had a devastating economic impact. All the indicators are that the regime will throw the global economy into a deep depression. The longer it continues the worse it will get.

The tendency of some to claim this doesn’t matter because saving life is the only concern is hopelessly myopic. The link between poverty and significantly increased mortality is beyond dispute. The cure will definitely be far worse than the disease.

As millions are forced into unemployment the outlook isn’t good. However, while the State will undoubtedly claim that unemployment has been caused by the C19 crisis, in truth the imminent economic collapse was already driving up unemployment before the crisis began.

This has led to increasing calls for the State to provide a Universal Basic Income.

This will create mass dependency upon the State for  huge swathes of the population. Affording the State immeasurable control over people’s lives. In a cashless society, people who don’t behave in accordance with State regulations, could be punished financially. Instant fines will be commonplace.

We are already seeing how that control can be deployed within a surveillance society as the State and its compliant MSM put the idea of immunity passports into the public imagination.

The link between this and mandatory vaccination is obvious. This proposed policy comes straight from the heart of the globalist think tanks.

ID2020 is a globalist initiative which intends to provide everyone on earth with an authorised identity. GAVI, Microsoft, BMGF and the Rockerfeller Foundation are among the happy ID2020 alliance who will decide who you are allowed to be.

Biometric ID controlled by your friendly ID2020 globalists – Because they care!

Comically they claim that proving who you are to the State is somehow a human right. This is utter bilge. I don’t know about you, but I know who I am and so do the people I care about. I couldn’t care less who the State thinks I am. Like everyone else on Earth you were born with inalienable human rights. The State doesn’t define what they are, they just choose to ignore them.

ID2020 is in no way objective. Your digital biometric ID can be “good” which means it can also be “bad.” Bill Gates and Rockerfellers are among those who state:

With a “good” digital identity you can enjoy your rights to privacy, security, and choice.”

Which means you can’t if its “bad.” As longs as you are a good citizen, do as you are told, get your mandatory vaccinations and don’t step out of line, you can have your rights because megalomaniacs think they are gods who have the power to allow or deny them.

Your digital ID will control the information you are allowed to access and your immunity passport will almost certainly be part of your State authorised identity as we move towards something indistinguishable from China’s social credit system.

It will be used to monitor your behaviour.

Your immunity passport status will depend upon where you go and who with. The State has decided that we all need contact tracing apps to regulate who we meet and limit our freedom of movement.

If you meet the wrong person or go to the wrong area, or perhaps fail to produce your authorisation Q-code on demand, then you will be locked down.

Perhaps the biggest deception of all is yet to come as the State manoeuvres to blame the C19 for the economic collapse.

Firstly, it isn’t C19 but rather the lockdown regime that has sped up destruction of the economy, but that destruction was inevitable anyway. The 2008 credit crunch was a failure of the banks. They speculated in the markets and lost.

As a result we have endured a decade of austerity to bail them out. Socialism only applies to those who can afford it. Austerity has reduced essential public services to rubble, and now, when we supposedly need them most, we’ve all been placed under house arrest to stop us using them while many of the most vulnerable have been ignored. The irony is laughable.

While we’ve all suffered austerity, the central banks have been printing funny money, blowing up the debt bubble to unimaginable proportions.

The result has been increasing consumer debt, staggering levels of corporate borrowing and, though government deficits have reduced, government debt is off the charts, even in comparison to 2010 levels.

This kind of debt-based economy was never sustainable and global financiers have known it for years.

What the globalists needed was a reason to reset the economy without losing power. Perhaps it is another coincidence that the C19 lockdown regime just happens to deliver both the mechanism and the excuse to press that global reset button. That it also ushers in all the globalist’s desires is just another in a very long line of remarkable coincidences.

Now that global terrorism is no longer a daily threat and global warming has been put on the back burner, the new normal of the ever shifting threat from pandemic seems to be the novel war on terrorTraining, funding and equipping terrorist groups has served the State well in the first two decades of the 21st century but now it is ready to move on to the next phase by exploiting a terror closer to the heart of every home. Disease.

In their totality, for those willing to look, it is transparent that these response measures have coalesced to create the framework for a totalitarian dictatorship. One rolling out at pace in the UK. Similar draconian diktats have sprung up across the globe.

A coordinated global effort like this doesn’t just happen. It takes years of training and planning. The only people who can’t see it are those who, for whatever reason, choose not to.

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Jonathan Reece
Jonathan Reece
May 9, 2020 8:14 AM

Please could we have a reference for the source of the 2 graphs showing “deaths v age” and “P(death) v age”?

ron
ron
Apr 27, 2020 9:25 PM

It takes minimum of 18 months to 2 years to test any drug safely. The drug has to be tested on many woman who are pregnant or then get pregnant. The baby then must go full term. Checked after 3 mounths for problems. This was not done for Thalidomide causing deformaties in children. There are also many other long term genitic tests which must also be carried out. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

Laurence Howell
Laurence Howell
Apr 25, 2020 9:15 PM

Japan’s Demon Of BioWar Kawaoka Inserted HIV
Force Multipliers Inside The Wuhan Virus.

Here in Part 4 of this series on the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, smoking gun evidence against microbiologist Yoshihiro Kawaoka has surfaced in an RNA analysis run by microbiologists Prashant Prashant and colleagues at the Indian Institute of Technology and The University of Delhi. The introductory remarks by the Indian research team are a masterpiece of understated dry wit: “The finding of four unique inserts in 2019 -nCOV (Wuhan coronavirus), all of which have identity and similarity to amino acid residues of key structural proteins of HIV-1, is unlikely to be fortuitous.”

Have a sip of Assam tea while pondering how four GP120 and Gag protein strands from HIV, the virus associated with AIDS, just happen to be strategically located inside this SARS-modified virus. The key word here is “insert”, as in gene-engineered. Wuhan CoV was created in a lab.

Exhibit B is a 2011 research paper by Y. Kawaoka and two colleagues at his animal virology lab at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, titled “HIV reverse-binding protein is essential for influenza A virus replication and promotes genome-trafficking in late-stage infection”. Published in the Journal of Virology, September 201l, it’s an admission of guilt for preparing the emergence of the Wuhan contagion

Wayne Janis
Wayne Janis
Apr 25, 2020 7:47 AM

Great analysis. Agree with it all.
So we have a (fake) war on disease used to stoke the ongoing war on reality which is used to fight the war on populism (the 99%). Sounds crazy…so crazy it just might work for neoliberal Globocorp. What is the situation with the war on alternative media ? – the Atlantic Council project is raging in the U.S. (quietly) and somewhat in Canada. Social media accounts cancelled, web portals exorcised etc.

Wayne Janis
Wayne Janis
Apr 25, 2020 7:55 AM
Reply to  Wayne Janis

Forgot the logical link: in the wake of this whole pandemic scam the powers will be coming after alternative media HARD – the argument being by sites like this one they put the health and lives of millions at risk. Be ready.

Steve
Steve
Apr 24, 2020 5:09 PM

Fantastic Article Iain. Finally found someone who is level headed and rational about this whole situation.
To add a little more information: The UK public is being hood-winked completely. The CoronVirus Act 2020 was implemented (London Gazette anouncement) inScotland on the 27th March 2020, then in Wales on 7th April 2020. Not England. While the media and Government was postulating rules, they failed to inform the public what they were doing and what law to follow. The two Statutory Instruments are in play in England SI129 an SI350. The Coronavirus Act 2020 has not been implemented in England yet (24.04.2020). There is no rule about distancing; this is only a personal preference. The police didn’t know the law as well it appears. How embarrassing!! The Act was put together and enacted, without a democratic vote by any MP, in an emergency (supposedly), some 700 pages of text. This was clearly pre-written over a lengthy period with some people in the government having pre knowledge before this whole debacle. I wonder who knew and who sold stockmarket shares on knowing ahead of the publication? Appallingly, nothing has been mentioned about Scotland (the UK guinea pig as usual) having a clause in the Coronavirus Act202o of the Government having the power to vaccinate everyone in Scotland (only) for ANY disease. Whether by force is yet to be determined. The Act also prevents the public from suing the NHS or medical staff while the Act is in force (although it doesn’t specify for what so presumably this is anything relating to medical). I understand, last year £93,000,000,000 (93 thousand million pounds) was spent fixing NHS mistakes. Shocking!! What could that have bought I wonder.
The numbers of people dying from COVID-SARs-2 never made sense, certainly to any intelligent and thinking person. The list of companies ordered to close as stated in the Appendix of SI350, excludes service companies not selling products. It even allows people to carry on working. This is not the message being promulgated by government. Those selling products have been forced to shut unless selling over the internet. These forced business closures are typically cash businesses. Not a coincidence I suspect, regarding tax. Whichever way this event goes they can have a predefined excuse! They covered themselves.
The law regarding Coronavirus effectively ridicules the police , by making them to be more like a school ground bully on their first day as a prefect. It makes a laughing stock of police officers having to decide what you buy, if you do exercise and so on . The police need to train-up as nannies as well, to nurture people to go back home and rest while their government pays evrybody’s salary for free!!! People will start to hate the police. This is not what the law is for. This is corruption of the law by government of their powers we divest in them. The government and the financial sector are unbelievably destroying the country we built over the last 70 years. Our children will be paupers and farmed slaves at this rate. The testing that is being discussed for CV2 I suspect, is another way of collecting the DNA of everyone into the on-going DNA databases, that are being collected around the world as we speak. Our freedoms are being dismantled rapidly, piece by piece.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:28 AM
Reply to  Steve

Yes-the DNA collection is pretty certain. The local hard Right psychopath ruling regime here in Austfailia has just announced a ‘voluntary’ (for now) tracking app, the information gathered from which will be stored with Amazon in the USA!!! Nothing to worry about, there. We are so well and truly fecked it’s almost funny.

Rui Ventura
Rui Ventura
Apr 24, 2020 8:20 AM

Please watch this video and then get this information out to as many feeds as you can.

sam
sam
Apr 26, 2020 6:34 PM
Reply to  Rui Ventura

Hi
Can you give a link where this video can be found?
Thanks

Richard
Richard
Apr 23, 2020 7:08 PM

FYI, pneumonia is not a distinct pathology or disease in itself. It is a condition or a symptom, equally plausible in flu and coronavirus cases, and in pulmonary bacterial infections, if sufficient susceptibility is present.

Dutch
Dutch
Apr 23, 2020 4:56 PM

This is the kind of pap you get when people with communication degrees suddenly become scientific experts. The Polymerase Chain Reaction is nearly infallible. It is the exact process by which your body regenerates, grows, lives, exists etc. Without it you would be dead. If PCR didn’t work YOU COULD NOT GET ANY VIRUS. It is the mechanism by which viruses proliferate in vivo. The matter of this virus existing and PCR being effective are entirely inseparable. Let’s be 100,000% clear on that, because this misinformation is being spread far and wide. To deny the efficacy of PCR is to literally deny your own existence. It is actively and perpetually taking place in every living organism at all times.

Now RT-qPCR is another matter. The PCR component of it is, again, infallible. Where the problems arise is in the development of the assay and interpretation of results. The quantitative component is not inherent. You can quantify PCR data, but it takes additional information, standards and statistics. In the case of C19 these things just don’t exist. So no it is not going to be accurate at predicting viral load in this case. However under the correct circumstances, it can be highly accurate. But only by utilizing tools and methodologies that exist far outside the bounds of PCR itself. And even then, like all clinical methodologies, it needs to be validated against real world outcomes. These latter two cases are where C19 testing breaks down. We do not have baseline historical data or outcomes for C19. We do not have accurate diagnoses to compare against, and we are not performing any test with any validated methodology. THE PROBLEM HERE IS PROCEDURE, NOT PCR. If you were installing a roof on a new house and you used a real gun instead of a nail gun, and in so doing shot the poor electrician working on the second floor, THiS WOULD NOT BE ANY REFLECTION ON THE SAFETY OF ROOF SHINGLES. But this IS the same bait and switch that every journo-expert is pulling with PCR out of nothing other than complete ignorance to the facts.

Your conspiracy theory may be describing a very real conspiracy. But ‘theories’ have a clear definition that involves the requirement of facts. Not ridiculous assertions about the most fundamental function of human existence being ‘unproven’. When the only clearly provable fact is that you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. I absolutely want these articles to hit home, and have their desired effect. But at the same time I feel like I’m getting stupider by reading them because the authors are so irresponsible in their assertion of the facts. Over and over they get a soundbite in their head then seek out less-than-facts to confirm them. Rather than getting actual vetted facts from the millions of available sources. And in so doing they only give fuel to those who would brush it all off as conspiracy theory. Which is sad because so many conspiracies have more thruth to them than the authors baseless and moronic assertions about PCR.

This article might has we’ll have been titled “I just fired a 12 gauge at my own foot”. Because he did. And that might have been the most verifiable fact in the whole thing. I appreciate the effort, but if you’re not going to do the work required to present a truthful telling of the facts, then save yourself the time. I already have CNN to give me preposterous nonsense all day. With much higher production value.

miguel
miguel
Apr 24, 2020 2:34 AM
Reply to  Dutch

I wish the author would respond to this. I also heard that the PCR test was not reliable. Im not qualified to understand what the gentleman is saying. Perhaps also, the commenter could provide some links?

O Lucky Man!
O Lucky Man!
Apr 24, 2020 11:05 AM
Reply to  miguel

Yes, the complainant appears to be objecting to something that is not actually stated in the article. he has become agitated about the idea of “PCR not working”, when all that is (correctly) stated in the article is that “The RT-PCR test commonly used to test for C19 does not appear to be very reliable, nor is it designed as a diagnostic tool for identifying viruses”, as is made clear by the quote given from the actually originator of the test itself.

I’m not sure how the complainant became confused about this, but it at least provided a (misguided) opportunity to vent his spleen in public which has no doubt made him feel better in some regard (…!)

Jodi
Jodi
Apr 24, 2020 3:26 AM
Reply to  Dutch

Wow thats impressive, thanks for all your opinions given with a healthy dose of self -importance mocking 👍 Remember that these too are only YOUR opinions, not fact sir 👍 have a lovely day

Charles Peterson
Charles Peterson
Apr 25, 2020 9:01 PM
Reply to  Dutch

“Dutch”‘s comment appears to be a self-mocking critique, almost suspiciously so. For one thing, it states no actual facts, then jumps to the conclusion the article doesn’t (which is proveably wrong). Of course we aren’t talking about the platonic ideal of PCR in a platonically ideal universe, we are talking about real procedures devised and performed by infallible people under trying and complicated circumstances (and the point would be to get reliable expert opinion on their statistics). The kind of boneheaded anti-quantitative sciencism demonstrated here is indeed the kind I hear often, along with daily recitations of the latest disaster porn cases which prove (no critique allowed if you care about human life) that we are mostly shortly doomed to terrible diseases like no others before, and the survivors will just have to continue without normal human society for the forseeable future or it could be even worse, are the reasons I come to OG to hear something different. I’d be happy to see a fully quantitative debate in the comments also, but this isn’t it.

Northeast Ted
Northeast Ted
Apr 23, 2020 4:08 PM

Lain, Hello and thank you for your two part article. Have you had a chance to see The World Economic Forum, where they have detailed planning on covid-19? https://www.weforum.org/covid-action-platform this page go down until you see a blue circle with agendas as spokes of a wheel. Each one of those topics go OVER 200 deep. So, any nation having trouble with anything relating to implementation or population acceptance, they have a helping road-map to assist them in their endeavor. It’s all part of New World Order spelled out in the 2010 Rockefeller foundation plan. This includes depopulation big-time. We are in deep doo-doo.

Ros Liddle
Ros Liddle
Apr 23, 2020 1:57 PM

Ros

Mel
Mel
Apr 23, 2020 10:17 AM

I could have written this entire article myself. Thank you and congratulations. I am trying to encourage people to start “Socially Distant Walking” on a large scale, as an act of defiance, even better if people hug other random walkers. I have a tiny channel on YouTube and Brighteon so I don’t have the audience.

Dwight Rabbit
Dwight Rabbit
Apr 23, 2020 9:49 AM

Thank you so much for this informative article, it confirms what my gut was telling me all along.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 23, 2020 12:06 AM

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breweriana
breweriana
Apr 23, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

‘Estimated’, ‘Linked To’ in what appears to be a CUMULATIVE total for each graph bar.
Desperate Dung.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 23, 2020 6:26 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Glad to see that you can read a bar graph clearly labelled. Go to the top of the Off-G class. Everyone gets an A.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:31 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Except you, Dun.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 25, 2020 8:17 AM

Dunces-R-Us schooling is the new normal Richard. They like buses with slogans and numbers like 350 million for the NHS – but not until we are out of the EU!

And then don’t bat an eyelid as sufdenly hundreds of billions are found to shore up the decade of underfunding – NOTHING to do with the EU.

It does seem clear to me that the nests of organised trolls here are the same typed who were pushing for the brexit under their king rat Dominic ‘Dr Strangelove’ Cummings and his paymasters.
Who it is revealed has appointed himself to thr Scientific Advisory Board that is formulating the secret policy for the epidemic from January. ALONG with his rabid brexshitty conspirator.

As Barnier has said yesterday the UK is aiming for a hard brexshit come hell or high water or pandemic.

The coordinated ‘fake anti establishment’ stance that brought rabble rousers and alt media and their global financial backers together to deliver a hard brexshit by hook or crook is what we see deployed on the pandemic in the UK.

It explains exactly what has been happening here these last few weeks.

Watch as they ratchett up the propaganda and fake complains about ‘estimates’ and ‘experts’ to achieve their goal.

Jack
Jack
Apr 22, 2020 6:29 PM

The question on my mind is how do we put an end to the misrepresentation from MSM and the State, educate the masses around the facts and take proactive steps to avoiding some of the potential outcomes that you reference?

Mel
Mel
Apr 23, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  Jack

You could do what I already did. One person at a time. I have a link to my YouTube Videos on bestsmallcountry.ie (a perfectly good landing page that I suspect Google vandalised). Organise mass “Socially distant walking” as an act of defiance. Only so many fit in a squad car!

Watt
Watt
Apr 23, 2020 6:20 PM
Reply to  Mel

Yup. An innocuous walk in the sun!

Join 2m behind, in front, sideways. Safe, peaceful and polite.

Truth
Truth
Apr 22, 2020 4:27 PM

The globalist plans and reasoning is spelled out in The Report From Iron Mountain. This plan was developed in 1967. It has been in the works for over 50 years. Read the report, you will see how it is being executed today and what the final goal is.

Mel
Mel
Apr 23, 2020 10:29 AM
Reply to  Truth

Iron Mountain!!! The red flag just got raised, because not all that long ago I applied for a vacancy with them but couldn’t understand what my programmer / hacker background would be of any use towards handling “artefacts”. I did my research. Thanks for confirming my conclusions!!

Bas
Bas
Apr 22, 2020 3:06 PM

War victims, returning from grave sides, like to speak a few words. A life spend on this planet, we had no choice other as listening and obey. To who is most interesting. Explaining the not returning aliens from space after setting something in motion on this planet. Time before that happening we called this planet paradise. Obvious, after leaving, we, earthlings, begged, prayed, to come back, hoping the opposite. Read 2000 A.D history of human leaders, acting like send from heaven. Gates the latest one trying. He should read history, finding out his fate.

Offlands
Offlands
Apr 22, 2020 12:00 PM

An interesting watch – could Trump actually be the one to end the madness? Is the veil about to fall?

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/we-are-ready-countdown-ended-indictments-coming-episode-2152b_VP6b2qQBxj2RaiW.html

rivercity
rivercity
Apr 22, 2020 5:44 PM
Reply to  Offlands

Need something a little more verifiable than x22. For instance he implied the hospital ships “Comfort” & “Mercy” were really picking up deep state criminals. Hmmm – seems “Comfort” is just chugging back where it came from…

Brannon P
Brannon P
Apr 23, 2020 8:11 PM
Reply to  rivercity

X22 report is entertaining but its BS

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:32 AM
Reply to  Offlands

No.

Simoon Tempest
Simoon Tempest
Apr 22, 2020 11:23 AM

Excellent article. I thank you so much for fine reporting. I am about to share this every I can across ‘social media’.

John Scudamore
John Scudamore
Apr 22, 2020 9:14 AM

Viral disease is poisoning. Corona industrial pollution and 5g rollout in wuhan. Spanish flu was vaccination and aspirin poisoning http://whale.to/v/spanish_flu.html.
Polio was DDT poisoning http://whale.to/v/polio2.htm Flu is air pollution (inc emf) and winter vit d deficiency http://whale.to/vaccines/flu.html Meningitis is drug poisoning http://whale.to/vaccine/meningitis2.html Smallpox was a mild easily curable non contagious sanitary disease http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html. They changed meaning of virus from poison to germ to create fear and hence vaccination http://whale.to/c/disease_theory_summary.html They then vanished toxicology http://whale.to/a/west_h.html. They then vanished the vitamin c cure for all viral disease since 1930s which would have destroyed vaccination http://whale.to/a/vitamin_c_banners.html No virus has ever been isolated. http://whale.to/c/virology_banners.html. “Viruses have never been isolated, none, there is no measles virus” — Dr Robert Young

AIDS: hiv positive test then aids drugs like AZT. http://whale.to/aids.html

Vaccination racket http://whale.to/vaccines.html

Viral fear racket http://whale.to/a/infectious_scares.html

Ann
Ann
Apr 22, 2020 10:40 PM
Reply to  John Scudamore

Wow! You’ve done your research. You’ve given me new areas to mine. Thank you!

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:33 AM
Reply to  Ann

‘Research’??? He regurgitates ONE website, of dubious provenance.

david
david
Apr 25, 2020 1:03 PM

It’s his own website, Richard .. and although I don’t agree with the concept that viruses don’t exist .. his website has been an otherwise valuable counterpoint to the dominant narrative of the criminals in charge of the EXTREMELY dubious vaccine paradigm

david
david
Apr 25, 2020 1:07 PM
Reply to  david

I first noticed and began researching alternative viewpoints on the insanity of vaccines in the late ’90’s and John’s website was practically the only island of sanity on the Internet at the time

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 23, 2020 1:02 AM
Reply to  John Scudamore

Many thanks John. Lots of gems there. Here, but one small one:

“AIDS and SARS are ways for epidemiologists (e.g., the CDC, WHO, etc.) to secure their jobs and continued funding for their agencies. No new emerging epidemics, maybe no CDC, no WHO, so we’ve got an infrastructure that REQUIRES the “discovery” of new, threatening epidemics. And the media pick a new one every year. This year, it’s SARS. For the past couple of years, it’s been West Nile Virus. Next year it’ll be something else.”—- Dr Dan Duffy DC

From http://whale.to/m/duffy.html

Not sure when that was written; quite some time ago I imagine, but showing that the present plandemic was utterly predictable. This time they’ve gone for the big one, and thanks to the social-media-and-Mainstream-Media-infected gullible public, it has worked like a charm. Worked even better than they could possibly have predicted.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:34 AM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Ahhh, the old ‘Scientists only do it for the money’ cant, so familiar from anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialism.

Gettingabittesty
Gettingabittesty
Apr 26, 2020 1:05 AM

Aaah, the old ‘anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialism’ so familiar from alarmist idiots without the brains to investigate for themselves

You
You
May 26, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  John Scudamore

What tosh, read a covid nature journal 🙂

Rachel Wild
Rachel Wild
Apr 21, 2020 10:24 PM

Brilliant article. Thank you. I have used some of your stats to update We Are Being Played & Vaccines Will Be Our Reward. I also agree with your appraisal of the global economy, if not the globalist agenda, in Our Economy Is Way More Sick Than Us! I recommend people read these articles and others in the Covid-19 Crash series as ! flesh out some of the ideas in this article more fully, and I provide other important insights. Thanks again for your brilliant article. It’s very much appreciated.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 10:00 PM

Yeah I don’t believer in the alleged “virus” as there is still no proof of it causing disease let alone deaths!
All the numbers they give out are propaganda.
https://notpublicaddress.wordpress.com/2020/04/19/no-disease-or-deaths-can-be-attributed-to-covid19/
You have trillions of viruses inside you and on you . Fear of virus is part of the mind control program.

Dusty
Dusty
Apr 21, 2020 9:59 PM

great article, this link in this paragraph is not working – could you share another link to this content please?

The whole debacle resulted in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) launching an investigation into the WHO to look into the issue of a “falsified pandemic.” During the subsequent hearing the epidemiologist Dr Wolfgang Wodarg said:

tee ell
tee ell
Apr 22, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Dusty

The Financial Times link also doesn’t go to the Financial Times, and the link where the MSM claim the PCR test can detect high viral load doesn’t actually make this claim. Here’s a webcache link http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nrN0IJaSNnkJ:assembly.coe.int/nw/xml/News/FeaturesManager-View-EN.asp%3FID%3D900+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Angus
Angus
Apr 21, 2020 9:45 PM

Great article Iain. Ties in all the main issues for me. Just one question. How can we defeat this tyranny?

Jack
Jack
Apr 23, 2020 8:45 AM
Reply to  Angus

I’ve asked the same question. We’re all aware of the problem but none of us have a solution yet. Protest?

Mel
Mel
Apr 23, 2020 10:32 AM
Reply to  Jack

Sorry about pasting this response I gave someone else: Here’s what to do Angus… and get EVERYONE involved. I don’t make money from ANY of this just so you know. On bestsmallcountry.ie I put a link to my videos on YouTube and I encourage large-scale “Socially Distant Walking” as the perfect act of defiance. Try it!!

Mel
Mel
Apr 23, 2020 10:31 AM
Reply to  Angus

Here’s what to do Angus… and get EVERYONE involved. I don’t make money from ANY of this just so you know. On bestsmallcountry.ie I put a link to my videos on YouTube and I encourage large-scale “Socially Distant Walking” as the perfect act of defiance. Try it!!

Kane
Kane
Apr 24, 2020 3:21 AM
Reply to  Angus

Actually, I believe a lot of people know what has to happen. I won’t say it here but…we have the means, i just wonder if we have the stomach for it.

ImJustAGirl
ImJustAGirl
Apr 28, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  Kane

Some of us don’t know! I’m baffled. And feel so small and insignificant……..

ZenOn
ZenOn
Apr 21, 2020 7:51 PM

Superb article!!! Thank you.

PS.
minor mistake for errata: “Initial findings from Chinese scientists indicate that SARS-CoV-2 has an infection fatality rate (IFR) of between 0.04% and 0.12%”.

The scientists in the cited paper were not Chinese, but Japanese (2 Japanese and 1 american to be exact).

Frank
Frank
Apr 21, 2020 6:06 PM
Willem
Willem
Apr 21, 2020 6:30 PM
Reply to  Frank

Reminds me of zamyatin‘s We, where the main character voluntarily let’s himself get lobotomized by the state as reality was just too scary. And where the realists live outside society in a barren place (still much to be preferred over the society of We Btw)

Are these pro vaccination people really nothing more than fictional characters? – Surely don’t hope so.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 10:28 PM
Reply to  Willem

Ha the image (picture) is sneaky propaganda for us as the unvaccinated are unhappy in jail the vaccinated as happy, have bigger boobs and are free.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 10:02 PM
Reply to  Frank

Passport to god knows what type of Hells Gate dna modification.

Cassandra
Cassandra
Apr 21, 2020 5:23 PM

I am sorry, I have made two mistakes in my comment:

First of all, the reference to “Mr. Cohen” (whose article I also read recently) – it is of course Ian Davies (apologies)
Secondly, my remarks about ACE may appear misleading:

ACE (angiotensin converting enzyme) and ACE-2 both play important roles in the RAAS (regulation of cardiovascular function and homeostasis of blood-pressure)
.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renin%E2%80%93angiotensin_system
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25019157

ACE-inhibitors (taken regularly) disturb this complex system and may cause lung damage.

My point here is, that the severe cases of COVID-19 and the attributed “lethality” of the SARS-Cov-2 (virus) must be seen in a broader medical context, including detrimental pharmaceutical effects (which the patients and the public are not aware of)

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30116-8/fulltext

Notably, the most frequent comorbidities reported in these three studies of patients with COVID-19 are often treated with angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors; however, treatment was not assessed in either study.

[..]

These data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19. We therefore hypothesise that diabetes and hypertension treatment with ACE2-stimulating drugs increases the risk of developing severe and fatal COVID-19.

Cassandra
Cassandra
Apr 21, 2020 4:42 PM

Thanks to Mr. Cohen for this insightful article. I would like to point out the “mad science” that has played a significant role in fabricating so-called “emerging threats” – concerning engineered viruses on one hand (not implying evil intent) and the use of engineered RNA/DNA on the other.

RNA and DNA-vaccines will wreak havoc with our immune system.
We must prevent this nightmare from becoming real.

Concerning the Orwellian “ID 2020” plans mentioned in the article, please read this:

http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

MIT researchers have now developed a novel way to record a patient’s vaccination history: storing the data in a pattern of dye, invisible to the naked eye, that is delivered under the skin at the same time as the vaccine.

“In areas where paper vaccination cards are often lost or do not exist at all, and electronic databases are unheard of, this technology could enable the rapid and anonymous detection of patient vaccination history to BS ensure that every child is vaccinated,”

says Kevin McHugh, a former MIT postdoc who is now an assistant professor of bioengineering at Rice University.

The researchers showed that their new dye, which consists of nanocrystals called quantum dots, can remain for at least five years under the skin, where it emits near-infrared light that can be detected by a specially equipped smartphone.
…The researchers designed their dye to be delivered by a microneedle patch rather than a traditional syringe and needle. Such patches are now being developed to deliver vaccines for measles, rubella, and other diseases, and the researchers showed that their dye could be easily incorporated into these patches.
The microneedles used in this study are made from a mixture of dissolvable sugar and a polymer called PVA, as well as the quantum-dot dye and the vaccine. When the patch is applied to the skin, the microneedles, which are 1.5 millimeters long, partially dissolve, releasing their payload within about two minutes.

…They are also working on expanding the amount of data that can be encoded in a single pattern, allowing them to include information such as the date of vaccine administration and the lot number of the vaccine batch.
The researchers believe the quantum dots are safe to use in this way because they are encapsulated in a biocompatible polymer, but they plan to do further safety studies before testing them in patients.
(The research was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation …)

http://news.mit.edu/2016/programmable-rna-vaccines-0704

The vaccine consists of strands of genetic material known as messenger RNA, which can be designed to code for any viral, bacterial, or parasitic protein. These molecules are then packaged into a molecule that delivers the RNA into cells, where it is translated into proteins that provoke an immune response from the host…

Who needs bio-terrorists when we’ve got genetic engineers?

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/97/10/5516.full.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2816623/#b4

You don’t need to acquire Ebola virus. You don’t need to acquire foot and mouth disease virus. You can just MAKE THEM in the laboratory, and it’s going to get simpler and simpler. Forget about what we’ve done: taking viruses, making them more virulent. In the future, people are just going to make their own.
The Australian government recently announced restrictions on the use of a variety of infectious agents. You can restrict access to those agents, but there’s no restriction on the DNA. With this DNA I could make foot and mouth in the laboratory. It will become a virus if I inject it into a pig or sheep.

…You can send an e-mail stipulating the sequence you want synthesized. The DNA sequence comes back. You put it in a small plasmid. You take that plasmid and if it is a human pathogen, you inject it into a human and it makes the virus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/23/world/australians-create-a-deadly-mouse-virus.html

.The scientists say the designer virus unexpectedly crippled the immune system to such an extent that the microbe reproduced wildly, killing most of the mice and making the rest permanently disabled.

And please see this (regarding the causes of ARDS and severe lung-injury found in critical COVID-19 patients: (ACE-inhibitors are prescribed (in the millions) for high blood pressure and they are the “counterparts” for ACE-2 which SARS-CoV-2 uses as a receptor (to gain entry into the cell); influenza-vaccines are also known to cause lung damage…)

https://www.pneumotox.com/drug/view/22/angiotensin-converting-enzyme-inhibitors-acei

Mel
Mel
Apr 23, 2020 10:36 AM
Reply to  Cassandra

I didn’t need to read this full post but I’ve already seen (above) where you were honest enough to correct (probably) this post. Those are the kind of eyes I want on my tiny little channel on YouTube (there’s a link on bestsmallcountry.ie). All I want is TRUTH, NOT $€!

1of7billion
1of7billion
Apr 21, 2020 4:18 PM

“We are going to look at the evidence which strongly suggests the State and the MSM, adhering to a globalist agenda, have colluded to mislead the public into believing the COVID 19 (C19) threat is far greater than it actually is.”

Well, I looked at it, and with all due respect I remain unconvinced.

Because here is an alternative explanation which I think is more plausible.

China hoaxed the world it had a killer virus on its hands it tried to cover up, and which it then further hoaxed the world could only be controlled by locking its own people up.

This created mass panic around the world, which forced numerous governments to emulate China’s lockdown policy, in fear that their people who blame them for mass deaths if they didn’t.

The Chinese doctor (if he really existed) who was the alleged whistle-blower, conveniently died, aged only 34 (well out of the at-risk group therefore), in a region of 11 million people, which seems extremely unlikely not only due to his age, but because China has only reported only 4636 covid-19 deaths in total (and none today!) out of a population of nearly 1 billion.

China continued the hoax by ridiculously suddenly claiming it had no new cases or deaths (none whatsoever!) which “proved” the lockdown worked.

This forced governments worldwide to carry out the same lockdown measures as China, in fear of their populations turning against them if they didn’t.

A minority of the population (on websites like this) who are very anti-authority generally, protested about having their freedom taken away, and in “freedom loving America” some even took to the streets, but most of the population obeyed, not because they were especially submissive to the government, but because they were scared of the virus.

I mean, let’s be honest, though I personally think (based on numerous experts and the Oxford University study and my own long term hunch) that I have already have had the virus, as I have had the symptoms, I am still actually a bit scared of it.

Partly as I am older than average, but also because even if your intellect tells you there’s no risk, once this much public fuss is made of anything there’s always the “nagging doubt”, and I bet most people here (if they are honest) including the article author probably even, have got at least a little bit of that doubt and hence fear.

Then there are two very powerful reasons for a lot of people to obey the lockdown apart from the fact they may not personally be that afraid:

a) an unprecedented number of people are now depending on their parents to do childcare, and it would cause them massive problems if the parent died

They might even have to give up their jobs, and that includes even MPs and journalists as the Guardian and BBC – this using parents (which I find personally abhorrent by the way, old people deserve rest, not being made into nursery staff) for childcare (partly because it’s very expensive to get paid childcare and difficult to get people you can trust) is unprecedented until the last few years, so that is a massive reason to obey and support the lockdown for millions of women/families.

b) a huge number of people are now carers (about 5 million in the UK the last time I looked) and many of those are working age, and unless they had to give up a well paid job to care for the elderly person, they are dependent on the benefits the old person gets for their financial security, especially when good jobs and employers are very hard to find these days and the benefit regime for the unemployed or even disabled and working age is very repressive.

Whereas for those who are not aware, despite the benefits regime in general being brutal, the UK government has to date more or less chucked money at persons needing care who have a “ready made carer” available.

The carer’s allowance is not much, but when added to the health benefits the person being cared for gets, it can be quite a lot compared to what the carer would get on unemployment benefit.

The reason for the government’s apparently inexplicable “generosity”, being because they know if that person has to go into residential carer it will cost the government an absolute fortune by comparison.

So carers are in fact actually very “cheap labour” for the government, in comparison to what professional care would cost, and that’s why the government doesn’t ask too hard questions about those particular benefits.

But nevertheless, a lot of carers are also extremely motivated to keep the person they are caring for alive, unless they are so tough to care for that it’s no longer a question of money, as they simply can’t cope any more.

So those two groups of people who have old people they are using either for childcare or so they have financial security as a carer due to is a huge part of the population, and likely a very vocal one in the middle and upper classes in the case of the childcare issue – i.e. the people who work at the Guardian or as MPs or other authoritative positions are frequently using parents for routine childcare while they work.

So as if there wasn’t already enough motivation for at least 10 to 15 million adults (that’s about 25% to 33% of the electorate) to support the lockdown, then there’s the political motivation.

Which is basically, as we know from the relentless Remain campaign before the 2016 EU referendum nearly every authority you can mention – and the BBC and Guardian are absolutely crazy about the issue, as are the Blairite dominated Labour party post-Corbyn – were against Brexit, saying how it would destroy the economy, etc.

And some of the loudest voices demanding a second referendum were of course Blair himself and his very dubious supporters, Peter Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

So I don’t believe it’s a case of the state colluding with the media at all, it’s a case of the likes of the BBC and Guardian – both of whom outrageously still give Tony Blair air time (mainly on the EU anti-Brexit issue) – trying to use covid-19 as an excuse to get rid of Boris Johnson and stop Brexit, by needling him into carrying out lockdown measure which they know will cause economic ruin so they can blame him for it and get rid of him and then stop Brexit.

Because just look who is waiting in the wings to replace him now – Sir Keir Starmer, a knight of the realm, so an absolutely travesty as an allegedly socialist Labour leader in the first place, who is a crazed EU supporter, and would undoubtedly like to get us back in the EU at the first opportunity.

And note how a lot of the academics and scientists themselves are also EU supporters and PC supporters, including even NHS staff, so it is in their interest to keep pushing an agenda that will get rid of Boris Johnson and Brexit, which may well include support for cooking the figures.

And let’s just analyse as well this idea that the lockdown is “to protect the NHS.”

Consider what that means. They mean, if the NHS ICUs get overloaded, so there is not enough capacitor to put people on ventilators, then people will die due to the overloading who wouldn’t have died otherwise.

So as the most at risk group is the old and over 80s in particular, then those words “to protect the NHS” can only mean trying to protect the old, stop the old from dying.

(apart from the fact the Conservatives have made “protecting the NHS” a political slogan, so it serves a dual purpose when they say that).

But in fact, the lockdown is far more likely to cause old people to suffer and die prematurely by restricting their lives in ways they can’t cope with, including being denied access to other medical care as it’s all nearly focused on covid-19.

But the government, Boris Johnson effectively, can’t do anything about this, because the media will scream at him if he dares to try to lift the lockdown what they will call “too quickly.”

So you see, it’s not Boris Johnson who is happy to see old people suffer, confined in their homes, but the PC media and Blairites, and one even has the suspicion that they know that is it mainly the old who voted Brexit, so that this then becomes a collective punishment on the old but be clear who is doign this – it’s the likes of the Guardian, BBC and the Blairite Labour party, not Boris Johnson (and I am a socialist in view mainly, but Blairism is not socialism).

I mean, really, take a look at the photos of Boris Johnson lately – does he really look like a scheming Machiavellian masterminded playing his part in the “New World Order” to perfection, or does he simply look like a very worried and tortured man, who feels he has been placed in an impossible position, and quite possibly nearly died under the strain of it as a consequence?

My money is on the latter.

Yes, sure, Boris Johnson is an elite (I bet most readers don’t know he is actually descended directly from an English king, as is David Cameron, and in fact they are 8th cousins), so he wants to preserve the class system or rich and poor of course as it worked well of him and his kind.

But that doesn’t mean he thinks he has to microchip everyone, etc, to preserve it, when in any case nearly everybody is already under surveillance if required, on their computers and on their mobile phones, which as we all know, can now track your location to the nearest 1 meter or so.

And Donald Trump is in the same situation – they’ve been trying to get rid of this “white privileged male” who unforgivably (as far as the Guardian, BBC and the rest of the world’s “politically correctness” groups were concerned) prevented the first woman US president, and for that “mortal sin” against feminism and PC values, they have been trying to get him imprisoned for sexual misconduct or impeach him every since.

And they’ve failed totally to get rid of Trump and Johnson until now they have this golden opportunity, which may never come again, as Trump looks like a shoe-in to be president again for the next 4 years against the hopeless Biden, and Boris Johnson, now with his sizeable majority, is effective UK dictator for about the same period, unless these “PC forces” can find some miracle to stop them.

And the miracle is here, their “political correctness and globalisation god” has granted it them, and it is covid-19; or to give it its honest title the covid-19 scam.

And the bit you have to understand is these people are crazy.

They do not care if there are hundreds of thousands begging on the streets after this, just as long as they get rid of Boris “Brexit” Johnson and Donald Trump – these two defiant icons of what they call “white male privilege.”

Of course getting rid of them doesn’t remotely get rid of so called “white male privilege” at all.

Because the real white male privilege includes the likes of Blair, Mandelson, Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, Roman Abramovic and a thousand others like them, who aren’t going anywhere regardless of who is in Downing St or the White House – e.g. Obama, who made no difference whatsoever to black people’s lives.

But the PC “Blairite”/”Clintonite”/”Obamaite” left are obsessed with mere “symbols”, a superficial view of how society is ordered, which never addresses its most fundamental inequality – which is that between rich and poor.

Note how people like Blair and Hillary Clinton talk all this equality, but they never do anything about the inequality gap between rich and poor, they just want to be millionaires themselves (and both now are), and most of the people at the BBC and Guardian think and want exactly the same.

And part of their plan to destroy the rights, not of privileged white males and females but of ordinary ones, is the globalisation policy of which the EU project is key.

But note how Trump doesn’t like the EU. So he is not actually a part of it, but Hillary Clinton was, she was/is best mates with the EU and PC loving Blairs and likely the Camerons too.

So this started (in my view of course, others are entitled to disagree as I am sure many will) with China hoaxing the world, and they did that because of their unique and awful problem with President Trump.

According to John Pilger, China has long been threatened by a mass of US basis more or less surrounding, threatening nuclear war on it

http://johnpilger.com/articles/silencing-america-as-it-prepares-for-war

and now President Trump is the last straw, who has already declared economic war on China, and is even blaming them for this virus, though I don’t even think he gets as yet that he’s been hoaxed.

So they cooked up this plan in their desperation, and it is working like a dream- it must have been beyond their wildest dreams how well this has worked out, as it looks like President Trump is going to be knee deep in covid-19 for the rest of his presidency, till likely 2024, and as US presidents are only allowed to serve 2 terms, then he’s gone for good.

So to me that’s all a more plausible theory than some “illuminati” master plan.

Yes, of course, those in high places want to control everybody else as much as they can.

But there are limits which if they are not careful to not exceed, could backfire even on themselves, when we are seeing e.g. Prince Andrew, narrowly avoiding ending up in the dock, and Harvey Weinstein being sent to a dark place from which he may never return.

So for example, as to “the cashless society” – sure, a lot of big businesses would like the contracts to arrange that. But because the elites themselves are often doing illegal stuff like drug dealing and using prostitutes, they themselves want cash to be an option, so their dirty deeds cannot be traced back to them.

So cash isn’t going away any time soon.

And likewise, sure, yes, every time a new disease pops up, no doubt some drug company would like to rake the billions in to cash in on it, if they can come up with a vaccine.

But is this even practical?

For example HIV, which currently (according to the WHO) has 37 million carriers and about 1 million deaths annually, still has no vaccine since it appeared about 1981.

And even if they create a vaccine for covid-19, what about all the other viruses and corona viruses, and another different one appearing next year maybe, or even around already.

We can’t stop big businesses wanting to make money. We can’t do anything to stop these people doing what they do other than getting a better government.

We allowed the powers that be to trick us out of getting Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders in power – no, neither of them were perfect, but better than what we have.

Some people say (quoting Mark Twain for example) that there’s no point voting, as if it made a different “they” wouldn’t let us do it.

But it was a vote in the UK that brought in the Attlee government after the second world war, and the NHS and benefits and pensions and university education for all (though now cut back mainly by Tony Blair, that “guardian of equality”).

So democracy can work, we just have to find ways to make it more effective and representative – like demanding full proportional representation and getting “bought candidates” off electoral candidate lists.

Or if we don’t do something about it – and what else can we do? Get out our bows and arrows (in the UK I mean) against the authorities armed with tear gas and machine guns? – we will just wallow in a state of paralyzed fear, fantasising about the latest horrors the “bad guys in power” are inflicting on us, but totally unable do do anything about it.

That’s what really scares governments – not conspiracy theory – but that we might ask for real democracy and not the sham version we mostly currently have now.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 5:29 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

The Blairites are the same as the Thatcherites they replaced and continued every policy including on Brexit – no matter how double faced they are. See the 800 page report of how they worked against the Corbynites to lose the general election.
Got it? They aren’t pro EU. They didn’t partake in Schengen or the Euro when they were in government.

As for why we are partaking in the quarantine – too late because the tory government and bozo and the media all controlled by the same power were too busy trying to get their beloved Brexit Done – is because otherwise the deaths would be even higher now than they have just been officially announced by the independent Office of National Statistics and that only upto 11 days ago.

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/04/21/its-not-the-excess-deaths-now-that-matter-although-each-is-a-tragedy-its-the-fact-that-they-will-continue-that-is-going-to-hurt-us-so-very-badly/

Juirui
Juirui
Apr 22, 2020 12:27 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

They were pro EU when it came to the policies that helped the yanks like enlargement to the East.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 22, 2020 5:15 PM
Reply to  Juirui

The enlargement with full membership of the central and Eastern European countries, instead of putting them into a sub group until their economies aligned towards the major EU , was FORCED upon the EU by the Blairites- knowing it would lead to pressure upon the ‘ever closer union’ on every front. Another instance of pissing inside the tent. The brexit was always the plan. As was the entry in the first place. To stop the EU evolving into an independent power and currency to threaten the $ and Fed and the old global robber barons.

NuLabInc reallg are the wormtongue scumbags equal to the On-Groaniad.

As for O-G … we’ll let’s see.

Willem
Willem
Apr 21, 2020 6:22 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

Interesting comment, and I agree that we should not throw away the baby (real democracy) with the bathwater (sham democracy)

Still, your argument: saying that China hoaxed the world is a more plausible theory than some “illuminati” master plan, is is a false dichotomy

China didn’t hoax the world
We are not ruled by Illuminati

The problem is that the economy was only growing by QE for very low to zero interest rates given to large companies, which the companies used to buyback their own stock, leading to higher stock prices, showing that the companies were doing well (even though they were getting deeper and deeper into debt) after which the CEOs could give themselves bonuses and the stockholders were giving dividend, leading to even higher stock prices. And what the companies didn’t get through QE, they got through tax cuts or tax havens, like e.g. the Netherlands where the average company gets 10 cents for every Euro that was generated by the State revenue (GDP)

Bernie Sanders has written about this scam in 2019 and calculated that

‘Between 2008 and 2017, 466 of the S&P 500 companies spent around $4 trillion on stock buybacks, equal to 53 percent of profits. An additional 40 percent of corporate profits went to dividends. When more than 90 percent of corporate profits go to buybacks and dividends, there is reason to be concerned.’

https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/03/opinion/chuck-schumer-bernie-sanders.amp.html

That simply couldn’t end well, and Sanders would become president in the US (as was my hope) he might actually do something about this, as he promised in the New York Times.

And then ‘suddenly’ Covid19 comes along, Sanders is out of the race, and the economy imploded ‘because’ of Covid19.

So there you go: the culprit of the lockdown is not China or the Illuminati: it is the economy, that was based on the golden rule of that ‘greed is good’ (neoliberalism) and that mantra just had to implode.

As far for real democracy, I hope it dawns on people and their governments that these large companies should all go bankrupt and should not be bailed out, after which they become state owned enterprises, i.e., are owned by the people. Up till now that ain’t happening and that is quite a concern, because in the end the question arises: who is going to pay the bill?

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  Willem

There is no democracy.
Its dogma.
So you think you have the ” power” and you “choose” these banking cabal candidates to rule you.
Wake up.
There is no “rule by the people” in politics.

tee ell
tee ell
Apr 22, 2020 9:38 PM
Reply to  Willem

Exactly this. I’m amazed that people think there is some illuminati who scheme these things out; you only need to see some of these people to realise they couldn’t coordinate something so grand. It’s systemic, and a system can have feedback loops. Central bankers desperate to feel effective, savers who want savings protected, a media that want clicks, a public more likely to click something sensational.

We didn’t let them fail early enough and it’ll come back to bite us.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:37 AM
Reply to  Willem

Boynie was ALWAYS a phony, in 2016, when he delayed his roll-over for dramatic effect, and this year, when he capitulated at the earliest opportunity.

Juirui
Juirui
Apr 22, 2020 12:25 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

It was Stalin controlling half of Europe and a third of the world in 1945 that dcared the shit out of the ruling elite in Britian that allowed for Atlees creation of the NhS in 1945 and which prevented Churchill reversing it in 1950…As Churchill said at the time “If the welfare State is the orice if keeping comunism at bay its a price will worth paying”. And it was the fall if the Berlin wall that allowed Blair to destroy it..

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 23, 2020 1:12 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

@1of7billion

I don’t think you explained why the Chinese (allegedly) perpetrated this “hoax”.

If you didn’t, would you mind telling us why you think they did it, and if you did, would you mind repeating it in one short paragraph, because I may have missed it among your many previous paragraphs.

Thank you.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 3:06 PM

In your hysteria to blame Gates, you guys seem to have not heard that the US has just pulled it’s funding from the WHO. Is that why we are all blaming Gates …. to distract from an act of Empire?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 21, 2020 3:27 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Suspended. And gates gives the the same amount there abouts in funding.

Tony
Tony
Apr 21, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

AGAIN. Trump is not the US Establishment. He is their enemy. Trump pulled the funding.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 8:34 PM
Reply to  Tony

”Trump is not the US Establishment. He is their enemy. ”

Very funny.

Tony
Tony
Apr 21, 2020 9:50 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Yes, it’s absolutely hilarious how the US Establishment have been trying to take Trump down since he became president. First with the Russiagate fabrications, then when they turned their own criminality wrt the Ukraine into an impeachment charge against him because he tried to investigate them.

You are either totally fucking clueless or you’re a troll. My money’s on troll.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 11:03 PM
Reply to  Tony

You are a real comedian, very funny.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 2:57 PM

Historically unionization of the work place and demands for democratic representation is what gave us good pay, better working conditions and the power to control the excesses of the state. Unions are the power of the people exerted on the bosses and the state. Democracy is our way of making our voice heard.
With all of these far-right shills like Corbett, Jones, Icke who write articles like the one above, about a ‘globalist conspiracy’, I never see them demand the protection of democracy or of unions, all I hear them doing is attacking all our democracies institutions.
This debasing of our democracies results in a political power vacuum, in the mind sof their listeners, which their far right friends, in the deep state or wherever, wish to fill with a glorification of dictatorship, who will ‘sort it all out’, no doubt.
It is easy to attack and trash but lets see the tyranny you shills are really working towards, hiding behind you illusive ‘globalist conspiracy’.

slobo
slobo
Apr 21, 2020 4:19 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Unions are the power of the people exerted on the bosses and the state. Democracy is our way of making our voice heard.

oh, now I see where your ideas come from. you stopped paying attention in about 1975, just when the great neoliberal reconquista was getting underway.

that world is long gone; the retirement party was celebrated on 9/11/2001. even Noam Chompsky is vaguely aware of this, while he demands that people go on voting for the neoliberal puppet of the week.

anyway, enjoy the delusional fantasy world that your corporate overlords have constructed for you to play in, while they get on with the serious business of disciplining their feudal serfs.

— the artist formerly known as m*l*s*v*c, until that persona was unpersoned

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 22, 2020 7:35 PM
Reply to  slobo

slobo – (“oh, now I see where your ideas come from. you stopped paying attention in about 1975”) – ouch! That’s cold – but absolutely spot on the freaking money.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:40 AM
Reply to  slobo

Unions are the Bosses’ means of keeping the working-class rabble in line. Here in Austfailia most union leaders cannot wait to sell out and join the ‘business class’. Or get a job as a hate-mongering thug for Murdoch.

S. Owen
S. Owen
Apr 21, 2020 7:18 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

How is that your takeaway from this article? At what point will you open your eyes?

Or are you being sarcastic 🤣
Yeah silly me🤦🏾‍♂️ ha ha ha

But jokes aside this article sums it up perfectly, and seeing it laid out like this and simular articles is the only reason I have not lost my mind in all this mayhem. Now if only I could convince the people around me to LOOK (nothing else) into the things going on right now around us! It’s so damn frustrating and like all the scams leading up to this covid nightmare, it seems likewise covid and all measures to combat it will be gleefully excepted by the gullible herd that make up the majority of global population, clearly going up against that means you are somehow in cahoots with the virus, making you an enemy against the people, how do you/we argue with that kind of logic?

Even more concerning is that there are people out there who can read the facts in this article, and still not get it! Or even take offence! That’s solid programming at its finest

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  S. Owen

”…….here who can read the facts in this article, and still not get it”

you’re not fighting oppression by pushing the idea of ‘globalist agenda’ which is a childish fantasy, , you are pushing a lie.

Tony
Tony
Apr 21, 2020 9:56 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

He’s using anti-Americanism as a meme to troll the whole alternative media genre. Has he written anything positive about any alternative media outlet? He seems to claim that they’re all security services assets. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s Integrity Initiative or 77th brigade.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Apr 22, 2020 2:13 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

So says the globulist, frothing at the mouth.

Jeff Carmack
Jeff Carmack
Apr 21, 2020 2:36 PM

If we stop paying attention and grow our own meaning (also food), then these challenges will fade away.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 21, 2020 2:23 PM

Yes, the WHO is funded by drug companies, but there is a growing suspicion that it is in the pocket of the Chinese Commuinist Party. It’s leadership clearly is as is seen by negative comments about Taiwan which has actually done substantially better with this epidemic than the PRC. Any account of the role of the WHO in this crisis must include those facts. As for who or what is behind this crisis, I would argue that a far more reasonable explanation is that the government was caught on the hop and forced by public hysteria to act in the way it has.

That it should have followed the advice of Imperial College is at least in part because governments tend to follow the advice of the organisation that it is in the pocket of the drugs companies. Blair’s Government followed equally draconian advice from Imperial during the most recent foot and mouth epidemic. Needless to say, when that epidemic ended, the world as we know it didn’t come to the end. Blair’s government didn’t follow the policies that many of the left would have preferred, but even it’s policy of identity cards came to nothing.

It isn’t following an imposed agenda for newspapers to overdo the corona virus scare. Put simply, scares sell newspapers. Tory governments don’t as a rule impose stringent controls because they know all to well that such policies actually damage the economic basis of the country.

They are, however, vulnerable to claims that in the early days they didn’t do enough, so quite naturally they overreacted. Many of us deplore that and will continue to do so, but all the rest, well frankly I buy it as much as I buy the threat of this virus being any more lethal than the flu. There are many aspects to this story not being told by the MSM but that applies too to offGrauniad too.

It’s just a different agenda, that’s all.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 21, 2020 11:12 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

Your monotonous Sinophobic bilge is worthless. When racism meets hard Right ideology, the result is not pretty.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 22, 2020 12:53 AM

As is your myopic and uncritical idealisation of the CCP. One does wonder whether you, Mr le Sarc, are a member of the CCP’s fifty cent army that has so corrupted the organs of comment of the left.

I have made it clear in the past that I have a high regard for the Chinese people and in the above I praise the success against the coronavirus of the Republic of China, the true heirs to the culture of China. It is not sinophobic to criticise the aberrant and racist behaviour of the CCP that has corrupted Chinese culture and mores and is proceeding to corrupt the WHO and other United Nations institutions. Any account of the WHO that fails to take account of what has been going on under the current leadership is a partial one.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 22, 2020 10:05 AM
Reply to  kevin morris

What a nauseating Orientalist racist you are. You love the compradore claque in Taiwan, good little Westernised Oriental Gentlemen who know their place. No doubt you’d prefer it if they kept their queues, and didn’t attempt to enter public parks, along with dogs. Sorry sweetie-the Great White Man, you wonderfully exemplified by the likes of you, don’t call the shots anymore. The Chinese Renaissance moves on.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 22, 2020 2:50 PM

So you are a member of the CCP’s 25 cent army!

And in your aggrandising manner, your sort of course ignores China’s racism, its genocide of its minorities, the murder for profit of a million Falun Gong practitioners, the military’s use of slave labour in its economic operations, the lack of civil society, the absence of anything remotely representing the rule of law, mass corruption of party functionaries, and not to mention, the brainwashing of cadres such as yourself and your friends who threaten anyone in the west who has the courage to draw attention to what the CCP is really about.

Your warning to the west about the so-called ‘Chinese Renaissance’ reminded me of the brown shirts who in the late twenties and early thirties strutted in the streets of German cities and towns beating up anyone who dared to oppose them, and claimed to anyone who would listen that ‘the future belongs to us’ and we all know how that turned out.

If I had any lingering doubts about the essential nature of ‘Socialism with Chinese Characteristics’, you make it very clear that it equates with fascism. The problem for China is that even people of the left are beginning to wake up to what China is really about. I guess that is why those such as yourself resort to abuse when somebody draws attention to the corrosive influence of China on institutions such as the WHO. The real irony is that whilst the above article warns of the use of the CCP virus to curtail freedoms in the west, that is already the fate of those who live in the so called People’s Republic of China.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:45 AM
Reply to  kevin morris

A litany of lies from a Sinophobe racist. I bet you think George Pell was framed, too. And the usual lying tripe about the CIA operation Falun Gong. As for ‘corrosive influences on the WHO’, (more undisguised race hatred)that has been occurring for years as the USA and other Western, White, thug regimes, have forced the WHO to ‘co-operated’ with Big Pharma and privatise as much as possible, the usual looting, racist, hate-filled agenda that the West imposes on EVERY multilateral organisation. And the use of ‘CCP virus’ for the Fort detrick virus, is hard Right hate-shite of the lowest kind, but that is your natural habitat.

Thom
Thom
Apr 21, 2020 2:03 PM

Watch out for the cover stories doing the rounds in the media – Bill Gates and 5G seem to tbe the two of choice at the moment, but no doubt there are others.
You can be sure that the real conspiracy is a lot less outlandish and is largely being perpetrated by people no one has heard of or is talking about.

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
Apr 21, 2020 2:01 PM

This is the first time I’ve seen anything along these lines from the corporate media (posted 3 hours ago):
“Politicians ‘don’t have the guts to admit COVID-19 was exaggerated'” from Sky News Australia

Again, may be “controlled opposition” as some skeptics may say, but it’s still might signal an interesting shift in the narrative. I was thinking something like this might be on the way, because two days or so ago, I saw a discussion on CNN about using antibody testing to potentially ‘free up communities’, which is quite the change from the total panic lockdown they were pumping out just before. (My guess it is a way to anticipate and integrate the deflationary findings of the Stanford study while still controlling the narrative).

Shaking My Head
Shaking My Head
Apr 21, 2020 2:02 PM

He quotes a doctor at 3:10 who says the mortality rate is not worse than the flu.Again, quite the change from the 20x deadlier than the flu SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN narrative that was peddled just before.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 1:59 PM

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O Lucky Man!
O Lucky Man!
Apr 21, 2020 2:31 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Well I see – just hover yer little mouse over this table on the same document and you see total deaths from influenza/ pneumonia in 2020 = 32,763, total deaths of people “presumed” to have had covid-19 in their system somewhere at the time of their demise in 2020 = 10,350

deaths-registered-in-the-year-to-date-week-1-to-15

Hmmm… Dungroanin have you been hiding in your house for six months for, oh… statistically every year since you can remember, and jumping compulsively away from anybody who gets within your self-imposed 2 metre exclusion zone when you do venture out furtively to buy your essential bread and cheese items just in case you caught the deadly killer annual everyday ordinary no-one-ever-cared-less-about-it flu? I see… People used to consider you, er… strange. But now hey! You are just one of the gang. Congratulations. Enjoy the appropriatley socially distanced camaraderie while it lasts…

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 3:36 PM
Reply to  O Lucky Man!

So you are ignoring the exponential rise evident in the two recent weeks?

Explain it in your world view.

Admin2
Admin
Admin2
Apr 21, 2020 4:16 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

This data has been brought considerably into question, since at least half of these numbers are not due to an association with C19. Ie. at least half attributable NOT to C19, but to the lockdown. You have presumably also read the pieces here, and are familiar with the surreal and misleading way in which C19 mortality is reported? I think it’s a bit disingenuous not to acknowledge these facts.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 4:56 PM
Reply to  Admin2

The data is the official number of TOTAL deaths from ALL causes.

How are the number of total deaths disputed and by whom?

You?

Don’t have to take my word for it. Here is someone who agrees with me – infact goes further.

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/04/21/its-not-the-excess-deaths-now-that-matter-although-each-is-a-tragedy-its-the-fact-that-they-will-continue-that-is-going-to-hurt-us-so-very-badly/

Admin2
Admin
Admin2
Apr 21, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

OK, so the opinion of a tax adviser, versus the opinion of the ONS itself who state that half these deaths AREN’T FROM CORONAVIRUS.

The completely messed up and inflationary way in which they diagnose Covid death has a direct bearing on the percentage of these deaths TRULY ATTRIBUTABLE TO COVID, rather than other social stress factors.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 6:00 PM
Reply to  Admin2

Its the opinion of a professor.

Go yell at him if you want to call him wrong.

The point of the total deaths and their trajectory is that it makes it easier to get past all the vagueness of what the causes of death are if they are being exactly measured (they patently aren’t as admitted by these doing the measuring). It shows clearly just ONE measure and it’s change with time. If that suddenly shows a unusual and unexpected change one way or another, SOMETHING must be going on!

That is the only logical conclusion.

Do you think that is wrong? Please tell me why and do try and answer my previous question – How are the number of total deaths disputed and by whom?

Admin1
Admin
Admin1
Apr 21, 2020 7:08 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

The answer to your last question was published in one of our recent articles. The new way in which the ONS records deaths – first as ‘provisional’ and then later as registered, leaves wide open the possibility they will be recorded twice.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 8:41 PM
Reply to  Admin1

Ah number 1 , 2 knocked off?

The answer to your last question was published in one of our recent articles.


Really? What was it? Quote it.
Which article? There’s been a few? Link it.

The new way in which the ONS records deaths …

I’m sorry, what?

How does a death be recorded as provisional????
In which way a death certificate indicate the person is provisionally dead? Schroedingers cat’s??

A death is a death. The ONS does not do quantum uncertainty.

The total deaths are total deaths – what is provisional about that!???

👌

Admin2
Admin
Admin2
Apr 21, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Look, Dun, you are insisting I do all the leg work here, and you are arguing round the houses. But other people are making the point that it’s worth questioning what these statistics are as a result of, and are they linked to the loo measures as much as anything else. Many, many sources have suggested this.

Read this one:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/05/covid19-death-figures-a-substantial-over-estimate/

This piece about non-covid deaths:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

Read the above article and this should sum up the extreme caution with which these figures are being approached by many. The guy above, who is employed one day a week as a Professor of Practice in Economics and is a chartered accountant by day, is not best qualified to comment on Epidemiology, particularly not when we are highlighting the ONS’s own data and officially acknowledged inconstancies in that data.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 9:48 PM
Reply to  Admin2

Neither of the links speak to ‘total deaths’ they are about which are classified as ‘covid’ – a subset of the total deaths.

The only point I am making is the ‘total number of weekly deaths’ in ‘excess of the seasonal average over five years’ as recorded by the registrar for deaths.

I would prefer it if the numbers were based on the actual date of death.
———-
I am afraid that you traducing Professor Richard Murphy as some kind of dodgy accountant is risible. He is highly respected internationally as well as in uk tax theory and practice. Please reconsider your opinion or prove it.

What exactly are your qualifications that makes you a better professional judge of numbers than him.

As I suggested please take it up directly with him if you think he is wrong. He also does twitter you can contact with him there.

It is now not deniable except as a barefaced refusal to accept the truth that we are experiencing a spike in deaths regardless of what may be causing it.

You,Off-G needs to prove that is not the case – are the extra deaths unusual or normal ?

Admin2
Admin
Admin2
Apr 21, 2020 10:41 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

That there is a reported rise in all cause excess mortality, this is so. The accountant over-reaches when he makes any predictions based on this lumped together figure, as if it’s due to one cause and not a complicated and poorly understood mix of causes. It’s pointless attempting to shift the burden of proof when we are not disputing that this many excess deaths were reported. No one is claiming this was all due directly to C19.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 22, 2020 3:58 AM
Reply to  Admin2

Ad hominem, much ?

The accountant over-reaches

He is a bit more than that as he makes clear :
“Although I retain a practicing certificate from the Institute of Chartered Accountant in England and Wales my fee income as a chartered accountant is now virtually non-existent..”
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/about/

On his opinion on this particular issue Professor Murphy writes

I indicate ranges of risk

All the experts I read think the range in which I am placing my suggestion is fair

And I am talking to those who know more than I do on this issue

———-

Maybe being an author, journalist, blogger and video maker makes someone more of an authority to speak on such issues and be published on web sites?

What is your personal claim to expertise?

I’m glad you agree significant excess deaths are happening – what do you put them down to largely?

tee ell
tee ell
Apr 22, 2020 10:10 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I agree the increase in excess deaths includes a load of coronavirus deaths. People will downvote you on this site since people seem to want to fall firmly on one side or the other. I’m happy to accept that we likely have a significant increase due to coronavirus, and a significant increase due to lockdown. The statistics don’t yet tell us the share of each, and we need to challenge on this – but unfortunately changes to data collation make this near-impossible.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 23, 2020 12:04 AM
Reply to  tee ell

Thanks Tee – it’s like shouting in a blizzard sometimes- the FT has the number above 40k with their methodology.

https://www.ft.com/content/67e6a4ee-3d05-43bc-ba03-e239799fa6ab

Are they lying? Who to believe? When will we know for sure? Next week? Next month?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 23, 2020 12:06 AM
Reply to  tee ell

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BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 10:19 PM
Reply to  Admin2

You’re still playing into programmers hands in the belief that there is “C19″,
that it causes disease,
that it cased deaths
None of which has been proved.
You have a virome, you have trillions of viruses in and on you.
Virus ” C19″ is the new ” Saddam Hussein” in the govts war .

Admin2
Admin
Admin2
Apr 21, 2020 10:57 PM
Reply to  BDBinc

I’m discussing what the figures show, nothing more. Please, by all means, theorise, think, share, speak the truth as you see it (while observing our comment policy obviously 😉 ). Thanks, A2

breweriana
breweriana
Apr 21, 2020 4:58 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Covid Cult bonehead.
There’s no convincing a Covid Cult believer with mere facts.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 6:04 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Yeah right Dougal err i mean brewer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMiKyfd6hA0

pasha
pasha
Apr 21, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Thank you for this dose of sanity! See also .
And this, which is even more disturbing:

Watt
Watt
Apr 21, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  pasha

NYT, owned by Mexican billionare. One of the boys!

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 6:12 PM
Reply to  pasha

You’re welcome Pasha. I bet you won’t see these graphs especially Sweden published here. As you can see there are many here wedded to their narrative.

I haven’t yet come across the equivalent Germany chart. Interesting isn’t it?

Anyone? My German is not good enough to go dig around their sites.

Eric Blairiser
Eric Blairiser
Apr 22, 2020 9:18 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Of course you’re not wedded to YOUR narrative.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 22, 2020 10:33 AM
Reply to  Eric Blairiser

Well seeing as you revere the great state propagandist, you’ll know all about it. Won’t you Georgie?

My narrative has changed with the changing facts – I was one of the first postets here in EARLY January calling attention to the Virus and its convenience as a BLACK SWAN to cover the asset bubble collapse and jokingly that Bozo/LaurakoftheCIA were being briefed /inoculated as they disappeared to some secret Tracey Island!

Then i thought it was serious when the Chinese put Wuhan into strict quarantine.

Then I thought it was hype when out government didn’t react as it should have if it was serious.

Pragmatism means you change your opinion when new facts demand it.

Propaganda as is jackbooted here is narrative management and led to a whole nation to destroy itself by believing in their nazi narratives. A nation which clearly has not followed the current narrative thanks to a mutti who knows best.

I have plenty more to say about this especially the

tin(tacks)
tin(tacks)
Apr 22, 2020 11:41 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Perhaps, Dunthinkin, he assumed you hadn’t posted here before you were resurrected Sunday before last?

Robert Zimmerframe
Robert Zimmerframe
Apr 22, 2020 1:38 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

‘lairiser’ means ‘vulgar exhibitionist’ in the Oz vernacular. Quite a clever name, really, but no doubt Eric’s crying himself to sleep over your calling him “Georgie”.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 3:48 AM

And ‘mug lair’ is even less flattering.

pasha
pasha
Apr 23, 2020 2:32 PM
Reply to  Eric Blairiser

Facts aren’t narrative.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Apr 25, 2020 7:18 AM
Reply to  pasha

Correct, and Dung-gonad’s narrative contains very few facts.

pasha
pasha
Apr 23, 2020 2:31 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Like you I was skeptical at first but the facts convinced me. I’m surprised and disappointed by how many are determined to deny said facts despite being kicked in the face by them.
I’ve had a quick poke in the English language parts of some German sites, no dice so far. They seem very smug though.

O Lucky Man!
O Lucky Man!
Apr 22, 2020 2:47 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Just to squeeze in at the end of this squeezed thread a little info that may help quantify things a bit more…

“Figures show that more than 80 extra deaths are occurring every day in London alone before paramedics reach the victims because patients are reluctant to phone for an ambulance in case they catch the virus in hospital. “

Source Lockdown Damage Outweighs Coronavirus Warning

So at least 560 excess deaths a week in London alone. Multiply out into the country as a whole and you are looking at “presumably” (as is the way of making death decisions du jour) close to 500 a day.

gordon
gordon
Apr 21, 2020 1:41 PM

the chirpy ashkanazim bbc disc jockey just said we are all so lucky here in blighty
so lucky
that unlike many other places to be allowed out.
so so lucky indeed

it’s good to know that even in sick twisted inverted demonic times that the uk is still the best place to be.
is it not already

above is very blue today
no pilot cruising spraying raid and round up,blood plasma and bacteria chemicull
criss cross criss cross inverted cross

ladies and gentlemen sit back relax
clear skies ahead
vitamin d top up time
yes sir

Grafter
Grafter
Apr 21, 2020 4:54 PM
Reply to  gordon

“BBC”. Enough said.

Geo
Geo
Apr 21, 2020 1:29 PM

The number one problem with the UK is population density. We’ve let too many people in to this country, house prices are through the roof, and our NHS hasn’t even kept up with the influx of immigrants arriving over the past decades, it’s gone backwards. In other words, the UK is a bit of a mess.

The countries that have organised governments and an efficient infrastructure are the kind of countries one would want to live in. Look at the countries that have done well out of this and take your pick. NZ, Austria, Germany, Taiwan, Sweden, Denmark etc.

When you peer behind BJ’s rhetoric it’s clear there is nothing in the tank, this country is on it’s knees, slave to whatever the next crisis is because it has no back up plan and no risk measures in place. Next step, we’re pulling out of the EU. The conservatives have put the NHS on the brink over the past 10 years. They’ve campaigned not to raise nurse’s salaries.

God willing, I hope I can escape this country and settle elsewhere.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 21, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  Geo

“house Prices are through the roof”

Central bank printing it’s the same everywhere. Australia – low population density – has had probably the biggest housing bubble of the lot.

To your main point.

I don’t think that popultion density has much to do with it, unless you are talking about barracks-like housing for immigrants in Singapore or crowded third world urban areas.

The main thing that the countries on your list have in common, is that compared to most other countries they deliver a higher standard of public goods.

Germany is fairly densely populated at 232 per sq. km, compared to 270 for the UK.

Densely populated cities like Singapore, Macao and Hong Kong have all done a good Job by all accounts.

If you are starting a business maybe try Sweden – you don’t want it being closed down every 6 months 😀

Geo
Geo
Apr 21, 2020 3:45 PM
Reply to  clickkid

Sweden seems like a good place, to be honest the UK is overrun with people and I love nature. Living in a village a few hours drive from Stockholm would be ideal. How feasible that would be I don’t know but it’s not outside the realm of possibility.

The UK is ruined. Look at London and the number of uber cars clogging the roads. The council estates are full of immigrants who collect the dole, I know as I used to maintain estates in between jobs for a few months. You arrive to these estates in Dagenham at 8.30am and you don’t see anyone leave the estate. You smell dope being smoked and see fag butts flicked out of windows all over the grass, whilst food rots in the binstores and rats run amok.

Immigration has been a terrible disaster, but so has the conservative governments. Scandinavian life is much better – lower immigration, lower population density, less terrorists (suprise!) and better public healthcare.

Juirui
Juirui
Apr 22, 2020 12:35 PM
Reply to  Geo

Malmo is just like dagenham

tee ell
tee ell
Apr 22, 2020 10:15 PM
Reply to  Geo

Don’t go and live in Scandinavia, it’s nice there, you’ll ruin it with immigration.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 2:16 PM
Reply to  Geo

How many ‘immigrants’ has Germany had?

House prices in most of the country are stagnant and have been for the decade.

Brexit was the bankers bollocks and their paid army of rabble rousers and thick as mince believers and followers who sucked it up.

The NHS has been deliberately underfunded and underresourced to get private suppliers in. The same with education, transport and housing.

Believing in Maggies handbag economics ant the neocon/lib lies for 50 years has brought us to this point.

Time to really get OUR country back from these bastard slaves of the bankers and their Atlantic Bridge warmongering robber barons.

Where you going to run to? To think you are free of their centuries long domination? Russia? China?

Good luck – I’m staying and FIGHTING.

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 21, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

“Brexit was the bankers bollocks ”

What was Mark Carney’s opinion on Brexit?

bob
bob
Apr 21, 2020 1:19 PM
jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 1:16 PM

Thousands of additional old people dying because they can’t get care from hospitals, Who knew ? Surprise!

bob
bob
Apr 21, 2020 12:55 PM

this appears to be a useful account of the so called ‘test’ for the coronavirus

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 10:24 PM
Reply to  bob

If shes not explaining how utterly useless the the CDC corona contaminated PCR tests are shes just spinning her wheels.Yes the CDC made a lot of money on selling tests for this and it has been found out the CDC contaminated the tests with corona too. As a private vaccine patent owning company it stands to profit off the scam in vaccines.

PCR “Positive [test] results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses.
The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. .” CDC corona virus test

tee ell
tee ell
Apr 22, 2020 10:26 PM
Reply to  bob

5g conspiracy warning alert for people who aren’t interested in watching that sort of thing.

MrChops
MrChops
Apr 21, 2020 12:26 PM

WHAT YOU ARE NOT BEING TOLD………………………….. ACTUAL SCIENCE!

Reg
Reg
Apr 21, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  MrChops

Superb. Thanks, MrChops. What is especially heart-rending is that honest people who do ethical, moral science have to deal with a noxious fog of corruption that is eating away the soul of humanity. The lying vermin have to be sent straight to hell without delay.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 21, 2020 2:36 PM
Reply to  MrChops

It would have been helpful for the gentleman to clearly explain the differences between bacteria and viruses within pathology. Also test criteria and procedures should be quite different between the two types of disease. This is rarely pointed out in the media, because misinforming the civilian public it’s much more exciting and sells more soap…

Angus
Angus
Apr 21, 2020 9:39 PM

Hi Paul, I think it’s basically that bacteria are alive. They can self-replicate. Viruses can’t. They apparently need a host to exist. Viruses may in fact be exosomes, cell antibodies, indicating a reaction to toxicity, rather than actually being toxic. The test for HIV, for example, tests for the antibody, not the (supposed) virus, which is rather contradictory, and suggests that Dr Duesberg has been right all along.

Joerg
Joerg
Apr 21, 2020 4:46 PM
Reply to  MrChops

Excellent scientific video , MrChops!

Watt
Watt
Apr 21, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  MrChops

Wonderful stuff. The thinking person’s James Corbett! No unkindness, just the resemblance) Thanks for that. Brilliant.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 21, 2020 9:53 PM
Reply to  MrChops

You are so right they do not even have proof of cause of disease let alone death!

We have a human Virome, trillions of viruses in and on us all the time.
https://notpublicaddress.wordpress.com/2020/04/19/no-disease-or-deaths-can-be-attributed-to-covid19/

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 21, 2020 12:18 PM

Can someone please explain Page 14 of this Report. These are the guidelines

“Registered medical practitioners: report notifiable diseases
Registered medical practitioners (RMPs) have a statutory duty to notify the ‘proper officer’ at their local council or local health protection team (HPT) of suspected cases of certain infectious diseases.

Complete a notification form immediately on diagnosis of a suspected notifiable disease. ”

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/879701/NOIDS-weekly-report-week15-2020.pdf

Page 14 appears to indicate a total of 460 Notifications of COVID-19 (diagnoses not deaths) for the whole of the UK for week ending 12/04/2020. This does not seem a large number, for what we are told is a pandemic. As a comparison, the figure for the same week for Mumps is 272 Notifications.

Something doesn’t add up, though it is entirely possible I am misunderstanding something.

Tony

Chris
Chris
Apr 21, 2020 1:01 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Over 1000 cases of Mumps in week 9 and 10 of this year… Reporting of all other infectious diseases drops as soon as COVID-19 appears. All very fishy.

Chris
Chris
Apr 21, 2020 1:03 PM
Reply to  Chris

Sorry, not Mumps, Enteric Fever. Goddamn plots…

Chris
Chris
Apr 21, 2020 1:04 PM
Reply to  Chris

Sigh…… Mumps!

bob
bob
Apr 21, 2020 1:44 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

maybe we’ve got this all wrong – maybe we should all embrace covid-19 as it appears to have super healing properties – removing all types of illness, disease and ailment from our ‘dashboard’ of human weakness ….

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 3:24 PM
Reply to  bob

Yes, it cures cancer, heart disease, male-pattern-baldness, erectile dysfunction, and bad breath. They’ll be putting it in vapes next. Oh wait, they are putting it in a vaccine, along with aluminium, mercury, nanoparticles, and microchips. Fortunately, the chips will be running Windows 11 and will never work properly.

Watt
Watt
Apr 21, 2020 8:54 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Of course. It’s Big Bill, the vacuum salesman! Blue screen of Godknowswhatsinnit?

Watt
Watt
Apr 21, 2020 8:47 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

I’ve been puzzling over that same document since I saw it posted here at week 12.

The lies and propaganda are off the scale. It would seem. If there is a rational explanation, I’d like to hear it before I get a red face for believing those figures!
Samizdat!

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 12:10 PM

The point of this narrative, of globalist conspiracy, is to make you feel that you can’t do anything to stop it because the targets are invisible.

If he told the truth about American imperialism, hegemony and empire, then the American public could protest the people in Congress and the military who are really behind this stuff.

That is the purpose of this type of disinformation, to take you on a long journey to the wrong conclusions.

Willem
Willem
Apr 21, 2020 12:30 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

Okay, but it is a bit bigger than American empire. It’s neoliberalism, which is a global mantra of Greed is Good. That is why most countries are in it (with some outliers such as Sweden)

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  Willem

The American empire is the home and birth place of what you call ‘neo liberalism’, it is their doctrine. Do you people know nothing.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

It has plenty of followers around the world.

I don’t go along with the NWO/Global conspiracy idea myself, not because it could never happen, but simply because it is unnecessary.

Capital acts globally, and always has, even before what came to be called “Globalism” came to be recognised: The World Bank; the International Monetary Fund; The Bank of International Settlements, and all the huge financial organisations that operate internationally in all the major industrialised capitalist countries.

Capital knows instinctively what it has to do to protect itself. The fact that it is also acting in the interests of the American Empire is a reflection of America being today the leading financial power, backed up by its military might. (Although some would say that Britain is the birthplace).

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 11:09 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

It is a vital part of empire, it is the way the American empire works. Corporate monopoly capitalism. It is why there are no independent shops in the UK, they are mostly chains. It is a form of US corporate monopoly capitalism.

slobo
slobo
Apr 21, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

sure, Margaret Thatcher’s regime did their best to make Britain a warm, fuzzy, and inclusive place to live.

— the artist formerly known as m*l*s*v*c, until that persona was unpersoned

Watt
Watt
Apr 21, 2020 8:56 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

If that’s really a question…

Vigorniensis
Vigorniensis
Apr 21, 2020 4:18 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

If that was the case then why has President Trump and the military spent the past few years breaking the back of the Fed.Res. to the extent that it now reports to the Treasury and that the Rothschilds are out of the park and getting slung out of more and more countries. I think we shall shortly see Bill and Melinda Gates hanging from a GITMO rope, on television. They will also be joined by the likes of the Clintons, Obama, Mueller, Comey, Brennan, Ohrs, and others (possible some UK heads like Steele, Johnson, Cameron, May, GCHQ CEO, who contributed to the attempted coup against Pres.Trump over the past three years.
Televised execution courts have been added to GITMO (look at its current size as opposed to when Obama left) and President Trump is very keen to show the people that Justice has been done.

Geo
Geo
Apr 21, 2020 12:08 PM

Whilst the IFR is important, people are overlooking the recovery and condition of survivors. I think that needs to be looked at in more detail. It appears some survivors do have lung scarring as a result of infection. We don’t have the data to know what % of recovered have these kind of symptoms, nor whether they will be able to make a full recovery.

These longer term SARS 2 issues could be the real problem once the outbreaks have been largely contained.

The rationalist in me makes the assumption that younger / otherwise healthy people who do get lung scarring will probably be able to make a full recovery. But that is a real question mark that I would like to know more about.

The reality is, this thing is not a hoax. I know people who have had the virus. But at the same time, the media are blowing it up. It’s getting to a point where only the data is trustworthy, and yes, even then, the data may over estimate cases, but at least we are getting a general sense of the virus peak and the curve flattening. Mostly everything else is noise.

Kamilart
Kamilart
Apr 21, 2020 12:36 PM
Reply to  Geo

Forgive me for my English, this is not my native language. The fact is that signs of lungs according to CT data are not scars, they are not fibrosis, these are symptoms of interstitial changes. They are reversible. Moreover, these changes can occur with all types of pneumonia. The most typical viral pneumonia model is influenza. After 3-6 months in the vast majority of cases, the changes disappear without leaving scars. So don’t worry about it. Acute inflammation is potentially reversible if it is not fatal.

Geo
Geo
Apr 21, 2020 1:26 PM
Reply to  Kamilart

Thanks Kamilart, that somewhat put my mind at ease. Still, having done a bit of research on SARS it appears there were longer term health issues for a minority. Yes, this is a different virus (well 50% different), and SARS was more lethal, so I suppose more damaging to the lungs.

Interesting to know that all types of pnemonia can cause lung damage post infection but that does kind of makes sense. It seems the mainstream media have several touch points for fear-porn.

One is the IFR, then the next lung scarring, then immunity or lack off, etc etc. But when you take a step back from the online mayhem you realise things are probably going to be OK even though we’re in the thick of it right now.

At least the curves are finally starting to flatten.

There will be over outbreaks in this century, other influenza, other coronaviruses, unknown viruses, such as life. This will pass.

My only question now is do I want to go on spending each day in an dank office letting the years slip away? I envision slipping away to the mountains, far away from urbanised areas.

Jane
Jane
Apr 21, 2020 1:21 PM
Reply to  Geo

I agree. If covid-19 does turn nasty then the lungs are apparently affected in a way more reminiscent of altitude sickness than “normal” pneumonia, and ventilators often seem to do more harm than good. The first question that needs to be asked is: what is the proportion of nasty cases to number of infections? The answer seems to be: very low. The second question is: who becomes a nasty case? The answer is: mainly the elderly and ill, but not exclusively. Overweight people also seem to be at risk. See Zoe Harcombe’s analysis of several academic studies. What is the seasonal flu vaccination status of nasty cases? See what Robert Kennedy has to say. I would also like to know more about diet. Low-fat, soy and starch or saturated fat and nutrient-dense? See Weston Price.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 3:57 PM
Reply to  Geo

My own (admittedly somewhat prejudiced) view is that some of this lung damage is due to the treatment they have received. Had they been put in intravenous ascorbic acid (vitamin C) immediately their symptoms started to get worse (or on oral vitamin C at an earlier stage), some of this damage might have been avoided.

I will admit that my view has changed (due to hearing first hand descriptions of how it has developed in various people) slightly in that I’m prepared to admit that whatever it is, it may be worse than normal flu’s, but boosting the immune system with vitamin C, and other relatively natural nutrition-oriented treatments could still have prevented most of the problems, even in people with underlying conditions, especially if done early enough (ideally in everyone (I’m talking oral, not intravenous here), before any symptoms appeared). Prevention is better than cure.

mgeo
mgeo
May 7, 2020 9:00 AM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Are you suggesting unpoisoned nutritious food for everyone? Are you a Communist?

clickkid
clickkid
Apr 21, 2020 11:44 AM

Here in Germany at the RKI press conference this morning, it was announced that ‘social distancing’ should be continued, even when there are no more cases of infections.

Septicism among the public is now increasing at a rate of knots, judging by comments on Websites.

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 12:13 PM
Reply to  clickkid

I doubt they will want to continue distancing after this.

Willem
Willem
Apr 21, 2020 12:25 PM
Reply to  clickkid

In NL, our dear leader will speak to us at 1930.
Let’s see if he has more balls.

Funny thing is, some of my friends (in a WhatsApp group) are going slightly mad by the social isolation they are experiencing, which I understand. And so I tried the usual, civil disobedience thing on them, saying that no-one will stop them if they want to have a drink or a coffee with a friend, and that should just do that.

Consensus is now that we will have (although I will not join) a drink while… videoconferencing…

As Radiohead sang: they do it to themselves (and that’s what really hurts).

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Apr 21, 2020 1:00 PM
Reply to  Willem

Thinking about Just.. Do you remember the video with the guy lying on street and people asking him why? At the end of the video everybody is just led down. It seems strikingly similar to social distancing to me.

Willem
Willem
Apr 21, 2020 1:39 PM
Reply to  Cicatriz

It is!

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 4:02 PM
Reply to  Willem

Hey Willem, those guys videoconferencing need one of these!

(I’m sure there could be an option offering Amstel).

Watt
Watt
Apr 21, 2020 9:02 PM
Reply to  Willem

Hey Willem!

Get vulnerable.
Not quite suicidal, but depressed for sure.
A visit from a concerned friend, or a group of them, can be a lifesaver, all the same.
Safety in numbers, remember.
Works for some!

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 4:03 PM
Reply to  clickkid

It will just gradually be ignored.

jay
jay
Apr 21, 2020 11:43 AM

So, austerity was enacted because there was “no choice”, we had no money and 140000 died because of it. Now to save(?) a fraction of that number, we spend billions and wreck the ecconomy. Meantime, 30000 die of hypothermia, 300000 on the streets catching TB and no one is getting NHS treatment for anything else. Meantime, your pensions are being robbed because you are ‘living longer’.
Bill Gates wants to ‘heal’ the world with vaccines while ignoring the fact that 9 million die from hunger, half of those children under 5.
Clap, clap, clap…..

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 23, 2020 12:12 PM
Reply to  jay

Austerity was enacted out of ideological conviction. It gave the Tories the opportunity to do what they had always wanted (at least the younger generation of definitely not “One Nation” Tories), i.e. roll back the state, and everything which had been achieved by Attlee and the post-war consensus subsequently.

To what extent their Coalition partners, the Lib Dems were fully complicit in this, I’m still not sure. I think some of them had views quite similar to the worst of the Tories, while some of them through ignorance believed the nonsense that the deficit must be reduced at all costs. Ignorance like that is understandable in a way, but at that level of politics is not forgivable, and I will never forgive them. they should have known better, and if they did know better, then they are as guilty as filth like Osborne.

mgeo
mgeo
May 7, 2020 9:12 AM
Reply to  jay

– Starvation kills 9 million/year [John Pilger 2020], afflicted 820 million in 2018 [WHO 2019]; malnutrition has made 462 million underweight, 1900 million overweight/obese
– Cancer killed 8.8 million in 2016 [ourworldindata.org]
– Air pollution kills 6.7 million/year prematurely [Harvard U. 2015]
– Diabetes killed 3.2 million in 2016 [ourworldindata.org]
– Medical errors kill 2.6 million/year, harm 134 million/year in low/middle-income-country hospitals
harm 10% of patients in high-income-country hospitals
harm 7 million/year (25%) of surgery patients
harm 40% of primary-care patients
[WHO undated statement quoting research from 2009-2019]
– Neonatal causes killed 1.7 million in 2016 [ourworldindata.org]
– Diarrhoea killed 1.5 million under-5s in 2004, infected 2500 million people [WHO 2010]
– TB killed 1.2-1.5 million in 2010, has 8.8 million carriers [WHO 2011]
– AIDS killed 1 million in 2016 [UN AIDS 2017]
– Hepatitis B kills 780,000/year, has 240 million carriers [WHO 2014]
– Malaria killed 405,000 in 2018, infected 228 million [WHO 2019]
– Flu strains killed 290,000–650,000/year in recent years, infected 240-1,500 million [WHO 2017]
– Extreme heat or cold killed ?? (unknown)

Nick Annies
Nick Annies
Apr 21, 2020 11:32 AM

This is a brilliant article, will share widely…

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 12:14 PM
Reply to  Nick Annies

The point of this narrative, of globalist conspiracy, is to make you feel that you can’t do anything to stop it because the targets are invisible.

If he told the truth about American imperialism, hegemony and empire, then the American public could protest the people in Congress and the military who are really behind this stuff.

That is the purpose of this type of disinformation, to take you on a long journey to the wrong conclusions.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 4:13 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

jack(jim): You could make exactly the same argument about American imperialism: I mean what exactly is the average person in the street going to be able to do about that?

I don’t think even Jeremy Corbyn was planning to do a Harry Perkins on the American bases, for example, so who could one have voted for, in order to strike a blow against American imperialism?

As for Starmer…
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jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 11:12 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

The childish ‘globalist’ narrative is nonsense and stops people knowing what is happening.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 2:20 PM
Reply to  Nick Annies

Make sure you include this with the ‘brilliant article’

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jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 3:03 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Another ‘hockey stick’ graph!, sorry but I didn’t believe the first one either.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 21, 2020 11:26 PM
Reply to  jack(jim)

There haven’t been only two ‘hockey-sticks’ jimbo. There are tens of thousands of them, that just display the exponential effects of human destructiveness.

Admin2
Admin
Admin2
Apr 22, 2020 12:42 AM

No climate stuff please! Off topic. That’s a conversation always primed to explode. Thanks. A2

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 22, 2020 10:13 AM
Reply to  Admin2

It wasn’t about climate destabilisation alone. Industrial production, resource extraction, biodiversity loss, deforestation, debt-you name it, they all show a more or less exponential rise since WW2, and the last forty years in particular.

Offlands
Offlands
Apr 21, 2020 4:06 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I am sure I have seen that graph somewhere before? Oh yes, the multiple times you have posted it. It has been addressed, you don’t agree, you haven’t addressed the larger amount of excess deaths above and beyond those with COVID-19 – fine but boring now. If you are trying to influence people by repetitive fear mongering, I think you are in the wrong place.

“Between December 2014 and March 2015 there were 44,000 excess winter deaths, 2.5 times higher than the record low of the previous winter, and the highest number since the winter of 1999/2000 when flu levels were very high. In the UK, pneumonia affects 1 in 1,000 adults each year, and was the underlying cause of 19% of all excess winter deaths in 2014/15, but was a contributory factor in many more”.

“An estimated 43,900 excess winter deaths occurred in England and Wales in 2014/15; the highest number since 1999/00, with 27% more people dying in the winter months compared with the non-winter months”.

“The majority of deaths occurred among people aged 75 and over; there were an estimated 36,300 excess winter deaths in this age group in 2014/15, compared with 7,700 in people aged under 75”.

Sound familiar or like a bad flu season (all data from ONS btw)? If we exceed 44,000 deaths that can be directly attributed to COVID-19 I will gladly apologise.

What exactly warrants or explains the economic suicide of the lockdown in 2019/2020? Yes we potentially have a new strain of Corona Virus but in my opinion, and the opinion of many others including multiple epidemiologists, doctors, experts in their field and readers here; the cure is far more deadly than the disease. I spent 18 years building up a successful small business that has been ripped away from under me. I cannot take furlough, I don’t want to take a Govt loan and be in debt to them, I would rather throw in the towel while still solvent and able to walk away.

Please do provide me with conclusive evidence (without your hockey stick graph that really says nothing) that COVID-19 is a highly infectious, highly deadly disease that can only be stopped by self-distancing and lockdown, thereby not allowing our evolutionary trait of naturally building immunity (whilst protecting the vunerableof course).

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 6:42 PM
Reply to  Offlands

“you haven’t addressed the larger amount of excess deaths above and beyond those with COVID-19 ”

What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the number of official Covid deaths are not as much as the total excess deaths? In which case it shows clearly we are not counting every covid death. Because it hasn’t been tested. As only hospitals are doing tests.

“If we exceed 44,000 deaths that can be directly attributed to COVID-19 I will gladly apologise.”

MY opinion is – If we are flattening out and then declining, then at least as many deaths will accumulate on the down ‘leg’, so we are looking at 60-70k, best case, scenario with the restrictions.

I’m not looking for apologies that ‘butter no parsnips’.

gordon
gordon
Apr 21, 2020 11:29 AM

i’m a brain specialist it is my belief that keir starmer,hancock and surnack and all of this rotten shower are all insane.
on the subject of the nurses dancing alas the nhs is insane
shirley we all must admit it is better for the nursey to dance and shuffle and rehearse rehearse sing expend vital demonic energies on the michael flatleys dance a thons.
than to use those negative energies for the murder most foul harold shipmans of the patience patients.

is it not already

let them demons dance themselves dizzy
so the ill can live

jack(jim)
jack(jim)
Apr 21, 2020 11:43 AM
Reply to  gordon

Hitler of course started his murder spree, in the hospitals, initially the sick and the insane, just like our governments are doing. It will broaden out.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 22, 2020 10:16 AM
Reply to  jack(jim)

The Americans, the experts in eugenics, use their health insurance industry to do the culling.

paul
paul
Apr 21, 2020 11:41 PM
Reply to  gordon

Don’t knock Hancock’s Half Hour.
The Five O’Clock Follies are the best show in town.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 23, 2020 12:14 PM
Reply to  paul

His numbers are probably being supplied by Sid James, who is also probably selling him dodgy PPE kit.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 11:19 AM

There is no point in any new comments on this article without reference to the latest ONS stats for w/e 10/4.

Ian and Off-G readers should be reconsidering their single minded fake belief that there isn’t anything real in this virus.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending10april2020#deaths-registered-by-week

Chris
Chris
Apr 21, 2020 11:33 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Yes and no. If you look at the historical data for the last 10 years, with each point plotted discretely rather than an average, we have only just gone over the peak from January 2015 and are in the most unpredictable part of the year. I think the focus should be on whether the lockdown is a proportional reaction, to which I feel the ONS data still shows it is not.

As an aside, only half of the 6000 extra deaths in week 14 were from the virus, what do you make of that?

jay
jay
Apr 21, 2020 11:38 AM
Reply to  Chris

Like everything else about this fiasco, the story does not stand critical thinking.

Chris
Chris
Apr 21, 2020 11:42 AM
Reply to  jay

Yup, hard to get my head around, from a good old engineering background.. Will get there though!

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 2:21 PM
Reply to  Chris

Maybe pictures are easier for you to understand?

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Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 11:47 AM
Reply to  Chris

We don’t KNOW how many are infected. There is no mass testing and most of the covid deaths are based on hospital tests – which will have missed most of the non – hospital deaths.

The only REAL data is the sudden weekly excess deaths shown conclusively now.

Just ask yourselves why the sudden spiking 60% excess for week ending 3/4/20 and 80% excess for w/e 10/4/20?

If you think the squizzle pointing to divert attention from the bozos government and their rush for brexit at all costs is worth ignoring the virus and excess deaths caused by it is worth it – what can I say?

jay
jay
Apr 21, 2020 12:00 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Where more extensive has been done, the mortality has been shown to be nearer that of ‘flu.
You can’t have it both ways…

jay
jay
Apr 21, 2020 12:00 PM
Reply to  jay

“testing”

mgeo
mgeo
May 7, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  jay

And that despite the test being quite flaky as per inventor, manufacturer and govt. permit to deploy.

breweriana
breweriana
Apr 21, 2020 1:04 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Says one who inhabits another scum site – CM.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 21, 2020 2:23 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Haven’t seen you lurking there. Why the hate? Don’t like true journalism?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 21, 2020 4:16 PM