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Toxic Agriculture and the Gates Foundation

Colin Todhunter

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was launched in 2000 and has $46.8 billion in assets (December 2018). It is the largest charitable foundation in the world and distributes more aid for global health than any government. One of the foundation’s stated goals is to globally enhance healthcare and reduce extreme poverty.

The Gates Foundation is a major funder of the CGIAR system (formerly the Consultative Group for International Agricultural Research) – a global partnership whose stated aim is to strive for a food-secured future. Its research is aimed at reducing rural poverty, increasing food security, improving human health and nutrition and ensuring sustainable management of natural resources.

In 2016, the Gates Foundation was accused of dangerously and unaccountably distorting the direction of international development. The charges were laid out in a report by Global Justice Now: ‘Gated Development – Is the Gates Foundation always a force for good?’ According to the report, the foundation’s strategy is based on deepening the role of multinational companies in the Global South.

On release of the report, Polly Jones, the head of campaigns and policy at Global Justice Now, said:

The Gates Foundation has rapidly become the most influential actor in the world of global health and agricultural policies, but there’s no oversight or accountability in how that influence is managed.”

She added that this concentration of power and influence is even more problematic when you consider that the philanthropic vision of the Gates Foundation seems to be largely based on the values of ‘corporate America’:

The foundation is relentlessly promoting big business-based initiatives such as industrial agriculture, private health care and education. But these are all potentially exacerbating the problems of poverty and lack of access to basic resources that the foundation is supposed to be alleviating.”

The report’s author, Mark Curtis, outlines the foundation’s promotion of industrial agriculture across Africa, which would undermine existing sustainable, small-scale farming that is providing the vast majority of food across the continent.

Curtis describes how the foundation is working with US agri-commodity trader Cargill in an $8 million project to “develop the soya value chain” in southern Africa. Cargill is the biggest global player in the production of and trade in soya with heavy investments in South America where GM soya monocrops (and associated agrochemicals) have displaced rural populations and caused health problems and environmental damage.

According to Curtis, the Gates-funded project will likely enable Cargill to capture a hitherto untapped African soya market and eventually introduce GM soya onto the continent.

The Gates Foundation is also supporting projects involving other chemical and seed corporations, including DuPont, Syngenta and Bayer. It is effectively promoting a model of industrial agriculture, the increasing use of agrochemicals and patented seeds, the privatisation of extension services and a very large focus on genetically modified crops.

What the Gates Foundation is doing is part of the Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA) initiative, which is based on the premise that hunger and malnutrition in Africa are mainly the result of a lack of technology and functioning markets. Curtis says AGRA has been intervening directly in the formulation of African governments’ agricultural policies on issues like seeds and land, opening up African markets to US agribusiness.

More than 80% of Africa’s seed supply comes from millions of small-scale farmers recycling and exchanging seed from year to year. But AGRA is promoting the commercial production of seed and is thus supporting the introduction of commercial (chemical-dependent) seed systems, which risk enabling a few large companies to control seed research and development, production and distribution.

The report notes that over the past two decades a long and slow process of national seed law reviews, sponsored by USAID and the G8 along with Bill Gates and others, has opened the door to multinational corporations’ involvement in seed production, including the acquisition of every sizeable seed enterprise on the African continent.

Gates, pesticides and global health

The Gates Foundation is also very active in the area of health, which is ironic given its promotion of industrial agriculture and its reliance on health-damaging agrochemicals. This is something that has not been lost on environmentalist Dr Rosemary Mason.

Mason notes that the Gates Foundation is a heavy pusher of agrochemicals and patented seeds. She adds that the Gates Foundation is also reported to be collaborating in Bayer’s promotion of “new chemical approaches” and “biological crop protection” (i.e. encouraging agrochemical sales and GM crops) in the Global South.

After having read the recent ‘A Future for the World’s Children? A WHO-UNICEF-Lancet Commission’, Mason noticed that pesticides were conspicuous by their absence and therefore decided to write to Professor Anthony Costello, director of the UCL Institute for Global Health, who is the lead author of the report.

In her open 19-page letter, ‘Why Don’t Pesticides Feature in the WHO-UNICEF-Lancet Commission?’, she notes in the Costello-led report that there is much talk about greater regulation of marketing of tobacco, alcohol, formula milk and sugar-sweetened beverages but no mention of pesticides.

But perhaps this should come as little surprise: some 42 authors names are attached to the report and Mason says that in one way or another via the organisations they belong to, many (if not most) have received funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

The Gates Foundation is a prominent funder of the World Health Organization and UNICEF. Gates has been the largest or second-largest contributor to the WHO’s budget in recent years. His foundation provided 11% of the WHO’s entire budget in 2015, which is 14 times greater than the UK government’s contribution.

Perhaps this sheds some light onto why a major report on child health would omit the effects of pesticides. Mason implies this is a serious omission given what the UN expert on toxics Baskut Tuncak said in a November 2017 article in the Guardian:

Our children are growing up exposed to a toxic cocktail of weedkillers, insecticides, and fungicides. It’s on their food and in their water, and it’s even doused over their parks and playgrounds. Many governments insist that our standards of protection from these pesticides are strong enough. But as a scientist and a lawyer who specialises in chemicals and their potential impact on people’s fundamental rights, I beg to differ. Last month it was revealed that in recommending that glyphosate – the world’s most widely-used pesticide – was safe, the EU’s food safety watchdog copied and pasted pages of a report directly from Monsanto, the pesticide’s manufacturer. Revelations like these are simply shocking.

Mason notes that in February 2020, Tuncak rejected the idea that the risks posed by highly hazardous pesticides could be managed safely. He told Unearthed (GreenPeace UK’s journalism website) that there is nothing sustainable about the widespread use of highly hazardous pesticides for agriculture.

Whether they poison workers, extinguish biodiversity, persist in the environment or accumulate in a mother’s breast milk, Tuncak argued that these are unsustainable, cannot be used safely and should have been phased out of use long ago.

In his 2017 article, he stated:

The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the most ratified international human rights treaty in the world (only the US is not a party), makes it clear that states have an explicit obligation to protect children from exposure to toxic chemicals, from contaminated food and polluted water, and to ensure that every child can realise their right to the highest attainable standard of health. These and many other rights of the child are abused by the current pesticide regime. These chemicals are everywhere and they are invisible.

Tuncak added that paediatricians have referred to childhood exposure to pesticides as creating a “silent pandemic” of disease and disability. He noted that exposure in pregnancy and childhood is linked to birth defects, diabetes, and cancer and stated that children are particularly vulnerable to these toxic chemicals: increasing evidence shows that even at ‘low’ doses of childhood exposure, irreversible health impacts can result.

He concluded that the overwhelming reliance of regulators on industry-funded studies, the exclusion of independent science from assessments and the confidentiality of studies relied upon by authorities must change.

However, it seems that the profits of agrochemical manufacturers trump the rights of children and the public at large: a joint investigation by Unearthed and the NGO Public Eye has found the world’s five biggest pesticide manufacturers are making more than a third of their income from leading products, chemicals that pose serious hazards to human health and the environment.

Mason refers to an analysis of a huge database of 2018’s top-selling ‘crop protection products’ which revealed the world’s leading agrochemical companies made more than 35% of their sales from pesticides classed as “highly hazardous” to people, animals or ecosystems. The investigation identified billions of dollars of income for agrochemical giants BASF, Bayer, Corteva, FMC and Syngenta from chemicals found by regulatory authorities to pose health hazards like cancer or reproductive failure.

This investigation is based on an analysis of a huge dataset of pesticide sales from the agribusiness intelligence company Phillips McDougall. This firm conducts detailed market research all over the world and sells databases and intelligence to pesticide companies. The data covers around 40% of the $57.6bn global market for agricultural pesticides in 2018. It focuses on 43 countries, which between them represent more than 90% of the global pesticide market by value.

While Bill Gates promotes a chemical-intensive model of agriculture that dovetails with the needs and value chains of agri-food conglomerates, Mason outlines the spiraling rates of disease in the UK and the US and lays the blame at the door of the agrochemical corporations that Gates has opted to get into bed with. She focuses on the impact of glyphosate-based herbicides as well as the cocktail of chemicals sprayed on crops.

Mason has discussed the health-related impacts of glyphosate in numerous previous reports and in her open letter to Costello again refers to peer-reviewed studies and official statistics which indicate that glyphosate affects the gut microbiome and is responsible for a global metabolic health crisis provoked by an obesity epidemic. Moreover, she presents evidence that glyphosate causes epigenetic changes in humans and animals – diseases skip a generation then appear.

However, the mainstream narrative is to blame individuals for their ailments and conditions which are said to result from ‘lifestyle choices’. Yet Monsanto’s German owner Bayer has confirmed that more than 42,700 people have filed suits against Monsanto alleging that exposure to Roundup herbicide caused them or their loved ones to develop non-Hodgkin lymphoma and that Monsanto covered up the risks.

Mason says that each year there are steady increases in the numbers of new cancers and increases in deaths from the same cancers, with no treatments making any difference to the numbers; at the same time, she argues, these treatments maximise the bottom line of the drug companies while the impacts of agrochemicals remains conspicuously absent from the disease narrative.

She states that we are exposed to a lifetime’s exposure to thousands of synthetic chemicals that contaminate the blood and urine of nearly every person tested – “a global mass poisoning.”

Gates Foundation in perspective

As part of its hegemonic strategy, the Gates Foundation says it wants to ensure global food security and optimise health and nutrition.

However, Rosemary Mason alludes to the fact that the Gates Foundation seems happy to ignore the deleterious health impacts of agrochemicals while promoting the interests of the firms that produce them, but it facilitates many health programmes that help boost the bottom line of drug companies.

Health and health programmes seem only to be defined with certain parameters which facilitate the selling of the products of the major pharmaceutical companies which the foundation partners with. Indeed, researcher Jacob Levich argues that the Gates Foundation not merely facilitates unethical low-cost clinical trials (with often devastating effects for participants) in the Global South but also assists in the creating new markets for the “dubious” products of pharmaceuticals corporations.

As for food security, the foundation would do better by supporting agroecological (agrochemical-free) approaches to agriculture, which various high-level UN reports have advocated for ensuring equitable global food security. But this would leave smallholder agriculture both intact and independent from Western agro-capital, something which runs counter to the underlying aims of the corporations that the foundation supports – dispossession and market dependency.

And these aims have been part of a decades-long strategy where we have seen the strengthening of an emerging global food regime based on agro-export mono-cropping linked to sovereign debt repayment and World Bank/IMF ‘structural adjustment’ directives. The outcomes have included a displacement of a food-producing peasantry, the consolidation of Western agri-food oligopolies and the transformation of many countries from food self-sufficiency into food deficit areas.

While Bill Gates is busy supporting the consolidation of Western agro-capital in Africa under the guise of ensuring ‘food security’, it is very convenient for him to ignore the fact that at the time of decolonisation in the 1960s Africa was not just self-sufficient in food but was actually a net food exporter with exports averaging 1.3 million tons a year between 1966-70.

The continent now imports 25% of its food, with almost every country being a net food importer. More generally, developing countries produced a billion-dollar yearly surplus in the 1970s but by 2004 were importing US$ 11 billion a year.

The Gates Foundation promotes a (heavily subsidised and inefficient – certainly when the externalised health, social and environment costs are factored in) corporate-industrial farming system and the strengthening of a global neoliberal, fossil-fuel-dependent food regime that by its very nature fuels and thrives on, among other things, unjust trade policies, population displacement and land dispossession (something which the Gates Foundation once called for but euphemistically termed “land mobility”), commodity monocropping, soil and environmental degradation, illness, nutrient-deficient diets, a narrowing of the range of food crops, water shortages, pollution and the eradication of biodiversity.

At the same time, the foundation is helping powerful corporate interests to appropriate and commodify knowledge. For instance, since 2003, CGIAR (mentioned at the start of this article) and its 15 centres have received more than $720 million from the Gates Foundation.

In a June 2016 article in The Asian Age, Vandana Shiva says the centres are accelerating the transfer of research and seeds to corporations, facilitating intellectual property piracy and seed monopolies created through IP laws and seed regulations.

Besides taking control of the seeds of farmers in CGIAR seed banks, Shiva adds that the Gates Foundation (along with the Rockefeller Foundation) is investing heavily in collecting seeds from across the world and storing them in a facility in Svalbard in the Arctic — the ‘doomsday vault’.

The foundation is also funding Diversity Seek (DivSeek), a global initiative to take patents on the seed collections through genomic mapping. Seven million crop accessions are in public seed banks.

Shiva says that DivSeek could allow five corporations to own this diversity and argues:

Today, biopiracy is carried out through the convergence of information technology and biotechnology. It is done by taking patents by ‘mapping’ genomes and genome sequences… DivSeek is a global project launched in 2015 to map the genetic data of the peasant diversity of seeds held in gene banks. It robs the peasants of their seeds and knowledge, it robs the seed of its integrity and diversity, its evolutionary history, its link to the soil and reduces it to ‘code’. It is an extractive project to ‘mine’ the data in the seed to ‘censor’ out the commons.

She notes that the peasants who evolved this diversity have no place in DivSeek – their knowledge is being mined and not recognised, honoured or conserved: an enclosure of the genetic commons.

This process is the very foundation of capitalism – appropriation of the commons (seeds, water, knowledge, land, etc.), which are then made artificially scarce and transformed into marketable commodities.

The Gates Foundation talks about health but facilitates the roll-out of a toxic form of agriculture whose agrochemicals cause immense damage. It talks of alleviating poverty and malnutrition and tackling food insecurity but it bolsters an inherently unjust global food regime which is responsible for perpetuating food insecurity, population displacement, land dispossession, privatisation of the commons and neoliberal policies that remove support from the vulnerable and marginalised, while providing lavish subsidies to corporations.

The Gates Foundation is part of the problem, not the solution. To more fully appreciate this, let us turn to a February 2020 article in the journal Globalizations.

Its author, Ashok Kumbamu, argues that the ultimate aim of promoting new technologies – whether GM seeds, agrochemicals or commodified knowledge – on a colossal scale is to make agricultural inputs and outputs essential commodities, create dependency and bring all farming operations into the capitalist fold.

To properly understand Bill Gates’s ‘philanthropy’ is not to take stated goals and objectives at face value but to regard his ideology as an attempt to manufacture consent and prevent and marginalise more radical agrarian change that would challenge prevailing power structures and act as impediments to capitalist interests.

The foundation’s activities must be located within the hegemonic and dispossessive strategies of imperialism: displacement of the peasantry and subjugating those who remain in agriculture to the needs of global distribution and supply chains dominated by the Western agri-food conglomerates whose interests the Gates Foundation facilitates and legitimizes.

The full text of Rosemary Mason’s 19-page document (with relevant references) – ‘Why Don’t Pesticides Feature in the WHO-UNICEF-Lancet Commission?’ – can be accessed via the academia.edu website)
You can read about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s role in the current coronavirus pandemic here.

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Frank
Frank
Apr 27, 2020 2:28 AM

Bill Gates and the Depopulation Agenda. Robert F. Kennedy Junior Calls for an Investigation
https://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-gates-and-the-depopulation-agenda-robert-f-kennedy-
junior-calls-for-an-investigation/5710021

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Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 28, 2020 6:35 PM
Reply to  Frank

Hello Frank: Great image. Too true…

Ligaff
Ligaff
Apr 27, 2020 1:01 AM

Interesting read.

Especially poignant considering the most probable source of Covid-19, like Ebola and many other recent virus outbreaks, is corporate agribusiness and it’s SOP of major land clearances for monocultural harvest exacerbated by major chemical use.
This destruction of natural ecosystems for modern development, not only eliminates natural controls on viruses, but also forces their animal carrying vectors to move to other locations for survival, spreading these viruses.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 26, 2020 3:56 PM

Bill Gates is a technocrat, and believes that science and technology offers the only solution to the world’s problems. He shares his heritage with much of today’s western world and of course with the Chinese Communist Party which increasingly pursues a similar, though some would say, a more draconian course. It has long been clear that it isn’t the third world which is responsible for most of the ills of the world, but those who claim that only technology offers the solution to the world’s problems. We should not forget that Nazi Germany’s extreme eugenics policy involving the murder of the mentally ill was originally proposed by America eugenicists including Gate’s own antecedents. There was a time when a strong non aligned group offered a real alternative to the technocratic nightmare. Sadly, those days seem to be over whilst the answers promoted by the likes of the Bill and Belinda… Read more »

Old Grump
Old Grump
Apr 26, 2020 7:23 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

I would have thought that unconditional love, compassion and forgiveness are the real answers to the world’s problems but what would I know? Maybe a better smartphone would do it.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 26, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  Old Grump

Speaking as a person of religion myself I tend to agree with you that from a personal viewpoint, the remedies you suggest are indeed the answer, but one cannot avoid the words of that arch cynic Frank Zappa, who in so many ways sums up the age old diemma- ‘and the meek shall inherit nothing’.

Sometimes it is difficult reconciling personal ethics and the activities of the wider world.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 26, 2020 9:14 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

Cheer up Kevin, the meek will inherit the Earth … after the final battle, when good triumphs.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 27, 2020 12:25 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

I tend to believe that the meek have already inherited it- that is the people who are able to see the world in its primordial purity rather than focusing on the corruption that the rest of us tend to focus upon.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 27, 2020 4:58 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

Yes, in the world but not of it. I find that difficult to maintain constantly. To survive, the pressures of modern life have to be attended to for a lot of the time but I find that regularly slipping out into a different state of conciousness is good for my sanity. Through the eyes of a child so to speak.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Apr 27, 2020 2:41 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

The insightful Mr. Zappa was pointing out the obvious. The truth is true.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 28, 2020 10:41 AM
Reply to  steadydirt

The difficulty for those who take Frank’s position uncompromisingly is that the world is by and large a reflection of our own internal state. As philosophers of old stated, ‘ as within, so without’. Hence, those who speak of truth or reality beg a very important question, which truth, which reality?

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 28, 2020 11:31 AM
Reply to  kevin morris

He was a great musician, I had a few of his albums as a youth, but his lyrics, though sometimes hilariously funny, portrayed a dark view of humanity.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 28, 2020 3:49 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Generally I agree with you on all counts. although everybody who knew Frank testified to the fact that he was a very kindhearted guy who had a compassionate outlook. It’s a real shame that Frank’s family is now seriously divided

For the conspiracy theorists out there, there is a possibility that his serious intention of standing for the US presidency with the encouragement of Vaclav Havel, might have led to his early demise. The older I get I tend to dismiss most, but as the great Fats Waller often said, ‘One never knows, do one?’

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 28, 2020 4:53 PM
Reply to  kevin morris

Oh yeah, I’d forgotten about his political intentions, he did die suspiciously young though.

Antonym
Antonym
Apr 26, 2020 3:23 PM

Today: Three lakh acres more under cotton crop in Punjab likely

In Punjab and Haryana, Bt cotton is sown in over 95% of the area, the rest 5% cotton is usually the indigenous (desi) cotton varieties.

Roger G Lewis
Roger G Lewis
Apr 26, 2020 7:03 AM

Roger G Lewis
Roger G Lewis
Apr 26, 2020 7:04 AM
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Roger G Lewis
Roger G Lewis
Apr 26, 2020 7:06 AM
Reply to  Roger G Lewis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=717My-ZVVx4 Bill Gates Saviour of the Universe

paul
paul
Apr 25, 2020 11:49 PM

Gates exists to promote globalist corporate interests under the guise of charity and humanitarianism. GMO, agribusiness, big pharma, privatised healthcare and services, export led agriculture, all serving the interests of the 0.1%.

In Kenya, 100,000 people work in producing fresh flowers for western markets.
All well and good till air transport is closed down and nobody is buying flowers for weddings.

BFBF
BFBF
Apr 25, 2020 6:44 PM

Capitalism is not the problem…..it’s Corporatism that is.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 1:58 AM
Reply to  BFBF

Same thing-parasitism.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 26, 2020 9:13 PM

Isn’t the Chinese Communist Party’s harvesting of the organs of religious minorities and prisoners of conscience a form of state controlled parasitism?

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 26, 2020 3:40 AM
Reply to  BFBF

Hello BFBF: It’s very strange that most civilians come down on capitalism, but fail to identify the problem as corporatism. Corporatism and associated medusas hold the keys to all economic rationing and control of functional resources.

Wealth corrupts, and absolute wealth…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 26, 2020 6:30 AM

Learning about the robber barons and the trust busters used to be standard history lessons. Maybe because we grew up with gangster movies about prohibition; maybe because in so many towns you’d hear the names Peabody, Carnegie and you learned about JP. Morgan and his cohort.
I suppose like so much of real life it has been consigned to the dustbin and replaced with postcrapulism.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Apr 25, 2020 5:04 PM

HOW MANY DID YOU SAY DIED? The mandate of the Gates Foundation is GENOCIDE, if it promotes corporate-industrial farming; global neoliberalism; fossil-fuel-dependent foods; unjust trade policies; land dispossession; commodity monocropping; soil and environmental degradation; nutrient-deficient diets; water shortages and pollution. It appears, the Gates Foundation hasn’t only been busy starving indigenous populations in Africa, but was fully engaged in paralyzing children in India. “After promising $450 million of $1.2 billion to eradicate Polio, Gates took control of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) which mandated up to 50 doses of polio vaccines through overlapping immunization programs to children before the age of five. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2020 5:29 PM

“It’s my personal opinion, that the Gates Foundation Like the Rockefeller Foundation is a front organization.”
A close reading of Bill Gates’ story raises so many red flags it is hard not to conclude that Microsoft itself is a front organization. A behemoth like IBM (with its Nazi-eugenics links) just doing a deal with an unknown nerd, who turns out to have eugenics links… Improbable tends to = unlikely.
The whole component/computing sector was driven by the Defense Department, which also set up Silicon Valley. Only after many decades did the sector develop a consumer products arm parallel to its defense contracting arm. Microsoft’s intel-friendly software, its attempt at phones parallel to Google (win-win), its purchase of Skype, Swift-key, LinkedIn… all mirror Google-In-Q-tel and Facebook-nee-LifeLog.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2020 5:45 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And IBM does a deal with an unknown nerd: to the nerd’s total, 100% benefit… given that… IBM already has the PC-OS idea in mind… plucks a guy from nowhere… donates to him the idea..and makes him the world’s richest man.
IBM = Inadvertent Bowel Movement… sure.

kevin morris
kevin morris
Apr 28, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Conspiracy theories often come about because people don’t know the full story. Gates wasn’t ‘an unknown nerd’. His company already had a profile in personal computing with Microsoft Basic and he was not the only person who IBM was looking to for an operating system for their 8080 based personal computer. Probably the most sought after figure as far as IBM was concerned was Gary Kildall, the inventor of the CP/M operating system for Z80 8 bit computers. Since CP/M was a flexible operating system used in business computers and there was a massive library of software for it, Kildhall was the man IBM would have preferred. As I recall, on the day that Kildall was due to meet representatives from IBM, he was out flying his model aeroplane. That is the point when IBM turned to Gates who didn’t have a 16 bit operating system but went to Seattle… Read more »

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Apr 25, 2020 8:03 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

DARPA and now there’s an IARPA
work hand-in-glove with some of the most hideous and predatory multinational corporations.
China just donated $30 million to the WHO. Puppet governments regularly sellout their own populations to be used as human Guinea pigs.

Worldwide gangsterism is what controls this planet. What is that tried and true expression: “Behind every great fortune there’s a great crime.”

PS Bayer/Farber was the Nazi chemical company that supplied the poison chemicals for the gas chambers. They used slaves from the concentration camps to help produce the products which would be used to eventually kill them. How efficient was that?

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 25, 2020 6:05 PM

“The Kennedy assassination has demonstrated that most of the major events of world significance are masterfully planned and orchestrated by an elite coterie of enormously powerful people who are not of one nation, one ethnic grouping, or one over-ridingly important business group. They are a power unto themselves for whom those others work.”
– L. Fletcher Prouty

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Apr 25, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Yes, I described that group multiple times on numerous threads. Maybe, the population will wakeup while they still have a chance to make some changes.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 25, 2020 10:14 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

I always appreciate your posts Charlotte.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Apr 26, 2020 12:19 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Thanks

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 26, 2020 3:47 AM

Hello Charlotte Ruse: Thank you for another honest analysis. You’ve definitely done your homework.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Apr 26, 2020 5:08 AM

Thanks

1of7billion
1of7billion
Apr 25, 2020 4:50 PM

As I got a very negative response to my last post, I am going to defend what I wrote, as my views remain unchanged. I’m replying to everyone at once here as so many people disagreed with me including apparently (though one can never be too sure due to “trollism”) quite a few anonymous downvoters. Either way I don’t care tuppence about personal dislike, but what’s important is to challenge the wrong ideas I believe people are holding, because our future literally does depend on them. People got upset with me for 3 main reasons it appears: a) I questioned – not the green agenda – but the realism of it – note the distinction, which is what I think is causing the problem as I’ll explain below. b) I suggestion (much needed, as I’ll explain) population control c) according to some I am even supposedly some kind of a… Read more »

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 25, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

Keir Hardie – the founder of the Labour party – and this is around 100 years ago – complained that Scottish bosses were importing Eastern Europeans to undercut Scottish Labour, and 100 years later the bosses are still doing that in the entire UK and West generally, but they’ve managed to con even a lot of socialists into believing it’s racism to object to this. And in the recent Labour Leadership election (anyone remember that?), the female candidates were falling over themselves to support the Trans lobby in its bizarre aims, like allowing men who identified as women to complete in women’s sports. Many of these aims were opposed (rightly so IMHO) by long-standing feminists. You make some good points, but it’s hard to see the wood for the trees in such a forest of a post. May I constructively suggest, if you intend to make any more posts of… Read more »

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 25, 2020 7:16 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

BTW, for a socialist such as yourself, surely you can see that the main objection people have to Bill Gates (in addition to his self-satisfied punchable face) is that his obscene wealth buys him an inordinate amount of unaccountable power and influence. That cannot be healthy.

1of7billion
1of7billion
Apr 25, 2020 8:56 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Thanks for the replies Mike Firstly, I’d point out (I’m usually careful to say this, but may occasionally forget to) as I said above, I’m mainly a socialist. i.e. while in theory I’d support a totally socialist state and world in which money didn’t even have to exist – there’s no money in Nature, but on the other hand animals do fight al the time over territory, so maybe money helps avoid that to a large degree, at least domestically – in practice I feel it’s a bit trickier. i.e. the problem with a sudden total socialist revolution – e.g. Russia/China in the 20th C – is how you get the best people in jobs and positions of authority of all kinds. People who start and run successful businesses are likely by nature to be dictators (e.g. Alan Sugar is clearly one, and not a very high minded individual in… Read more »

steadydirt
steadydirt
Apr 27, 2020 3:07 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

as my granny would say; “too sweet to be wholesome”

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2020 9:20 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

Can you have offer any particular recommendations on Hazmat suits?

1of7billion
1of7billion
Apr 25, 2020 10:26 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

“S Cooper Can you have offer any particular recommendations on Hazmat suits?” Thanks for giving me the biggest laugh I’ve had for a long time, which as such, deserves a good reply – I’ll try my best in the short time available… I mean, seriously, I’ve actually been giving this – sort of – quite a lot of thought! Not so much the Hazmat suits – which of course must be worn by all citizens at all times till the universe implodes back into the “super-black hole” – but the face masks which are in some countries attempted to be forced on the citizens and quite possibly here also – in certain situations is my guess, such as in crowded areas or by certain workers who deal with a lot of the public. I think somehow we could have fashionable ones like some kind of probably silk patterned cowboy bank… Read more »

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 1:43 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

I am not going to thumb you down for your passionate but long winded treatise. However, there is one point you make which cannot be left unchallenged:

“You have to keep doing realism, which amounts to choosing “the lesser of two evils.”

So you are instructing us not to vote for “third parties” who espouse policies that are congruent with our moral and ethical compass ? No wonder there are psychopaths ruling this world.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 25, 2020 3:57 PM

Marx in volume 1 of Capital writes “Capitalist production…disturbs the metabolic interaction between man and the earth, i.e. prevents the return to the soil of its constituent elements consumed by man in the form of food and clothing; it therefore violates the conditions necessary to lasting fertility of the soil…The social combination and organization of the labor processes is turned into an organized mode of crushing out the workman’s individual vitality, freedom and independence… Moreover, all progress in capitalist agriculture is a progress in the art, not only of robbing the worker, but of robbing the soil; all progress in increasing the fertility of the soil for a given time is a progress towards ruining the more long-lasting sources of that fertility. The more a country starts its development on the foundation of modern industry, like the United States, for example, the more rapid is this process of destruction. Capitalist… Read more »

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 1:49 AM

Whoever it was that gave you a thumbs down here probably regards you as an extreme, left wing, Marxist, socialist, anti-semite. Well, dear Paul, you can rest assured that I don’t share the views of these rampant sociopaths.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 26, 2020 4:11 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Hello cupid stunt: I would probably be considered extreme regarding all unwholesome; socially abhorrent, and non-prescribed subjects. Thank you for your lack of savagery…

Infinity rather suggests that every individual is infinitely outnumbered…

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 4:36 AM

Yes, I admit I might have been using rather colourful rhetoric there but in the end, you will have to let others consider you as they wish – I would have no problems sharing your company in discussion in real time – but unfortunately, at the present time that is verboten ! However, your comment “Infinity suggests that every individual is infinitely outnumbered” is something that I will have to ponder deeply – thank you for that

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 2:13 AM

It’s a very interesting observation, but Marx did not create it ex nihilo. He synthesised his observations from studying the works of earlier and contemporary observers like Liebig and Schonbein in Germany, and he was much interested in John Tyndall’s work that outlined the science of the greenhouse effect in the Earth’s climate. And Marx had a personal friendship with the early ecologist Lankester, who introduced the term ‘oecology’ to English in 1873.

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
Apr 25, 2020 2:48 PM

Little changes back in 1961 we were shown a film at school and asked to write a report on it.
The film showed tractors with various attachments for ploughing and reaping being supplied to farmers in Africa.
I was the only one to write a critical report. It was obvious to me that the film was a public relation piece by the company. Traditionally farmers in the third world will use a animal to pull a plough.
If the tractors were left after filming you would need to train people how to use them as they can be dangerous to use untrained. The tractors would need to be maintained and were more suitable for farming larger areas than the small plots available in the villages.
Needless to say my report got very poor marks for hand writing , spelling , punctuation , grammar.
The contents was not appreciated either.

Antonym
Antonym
Apr 25, 2020 9:46 AM

” Amid the COVID-19 pandemic, India’s response to natural disasters is expected to be tested again this summer when a giant locust storm from the Horn of Africa is expected to attack farmlands in South Asia.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 2:15 AM
Reply to  Antonym

What’s next Antsie? Boils? Rivers turning to blood? Boils? Darkness? Death of the first-born?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 25, 2020 9:29 AM

Thank you Colin for another excellent article. I’m just angry. Capitalism is the disease, not the cure. It is both anti human and anti the planet.
Deeply disturbing to read the Gates and Rockefeller Foundations are now collecting seeds from all over the world and storing them in Svalbard.
Imagine how the future is looking very likely to be – a global digital currency, mandatory vaccinations, a social credit system and giant corporations like Cargill controlling food production. Jesus.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 1:52 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Cheers Gezzah, thanks for posting up your comment – I stand with you – now scroll up and read my transcription of Peter Joseph’s essay on the “myth of philanthropism”

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 26, 2020 2:36 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Thanks CS…. Regards philanthropy, Wrong Kind Of Green has a whole section on its front page on the plethora of NGO’s being funded by the likes Rockefeller, Ford, Gates, Soros, et al. The relevant question being ‘why would billionaires be funding so called grassroots movements or NGO’s? Quote for you from’ Saving Trees and Capitalism Too’ by Michael Barker: “describing a group funded by the world’s leading capitalist elites as grassroots demonstrates how desperately well meaning environmentalists cling to the illusion that by working with capitalists they will be able to counter the destruction wrought on the planet by capitalists”. Excellent doco called The Planet Of Humans that exposes the mainstream ‘environmental groups’ like 350.org and Sierra Club being co-opted by the very same people pillaging the planet being funded by these oh so generous ‘philanthropists’. Lots of other examples as you’d know. Grey cold morning in Melbourne – will… Read more »

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 2:52 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thank you Gezzah strengthening the international alliance for justice ! You in Melbourne Australia and me in London England – Thank you for the Michael Barker quote – I will have to get that book to add to my collection of research material – and I can recommend to you some other brilliant authors such as Vijay Mehta author of “The Economics of Killing” and “How Not To Go To War”, Hazel Henderson author of “Alternative Futures”, Fritjof Capra author of “Uncommon Wisdom” and “The Tao of Physics” Max Blumenthal, author of “The Management of Savagery” and Fritz Schumacher author of “Small is Beautiful”. And yes, my moniker is great, that is until a dyslexic appears on the scene ! Keep posting Gezzah – and remember these words of the great Jesse Ventura – “When Governments Lie – The Truth is a Traitor”

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 26, 2020 3:29 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Thanks, appreciate the feedback and the recommendations✌️

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:31 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

My pleasure entirely – good friend !

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 26, 2020 2:45 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

I’ll second that shout out for Gezzah too Cupid, and also recommend your post to him.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 2:54 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Thank you so much, Nemo, these wonderful exchanges are making the lock-down a bit more bearable !

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 26, 2020 3:27 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

✌️😁 Cheers Nemo…. I echo Cupid in that connecting with other like minded people is important. Especially now.
The few I know personally, fully swallow the MSM bullshit – nearly all read The Guardian or its Aussie equivalent .

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:37 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Yes, Gezzah, and like you and many others here, I echo all views expressed that celebrate the sanctity of human life and the importance of fighting with all our might against all those who are prepared to collude with those who wish to snuff it out wherever it may sprout up – Choose Life – Choose Compassion – Choose Enlightenment ! Our strength is in our unity and our power is in our solidarity – and, despite the continuing efforts of the living dead – we will win !

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 28, 2020 11:44 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Your welcome Gezzah, sorry about the late reply. My emails being swamped with reply notifications, but that’s a good thing. Like you say, it’s important to connect. I’m new to posting but have followed you for quite a while. Good work Brother.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 28, 2020 12:12 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

No problemo Nemo… End of the day, we’re all in the same boat. Here’s one of the seemingly few places left where people get what is really going on.
True, connection is important, especially in these uber surreal times.
Take care✌️

steadydirt
steadydirt
Apr 27, 2020 3:22 PM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Targeted philanthropy? Are apple trees philanthropic? Or do we enter into a bargain when we pluck the apple and eat whereby we are obligated to plant the apple seeds?[without patenting the genome for sale]/s

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2020 8:10 AM

Esso-Exxon-Standard Oil grandaddy J.D. Rockefeller was, literally, a snake oil salesman before he started prospecting for kerosine, which he was selling for its health benefits. He profited by bottling obscure chemical elixirs and marketing them for their supposed curative properties. Gates is also promoting chemicals and their magical health benefits. Chemicals to make the soil sprout more crops. Chemicals to make you healthier. Both Rockefeller and Gates became rich through monopoly. Both were investigated for restricting trade and conspiring to undermine their business rivals. Both were targeted for trust busting, though Gates has gotten off more lightly. Both families have an active interest in eugenics. The parallels are striking. To return to crimes, however. Billionaires get a free pass for cornering the market, nowadays. The actions of Bezos and Amazon, Zuckerberg and Facebook, Gates and Microsoft seem to be monopolistic, possibly illegal, and yet they don’t merit so much as… Read more »

Ajay
Ajay
Apr 25, 2020 8:43 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

You’re just another Q conspiracy theorist.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2020 10:49 AM
Reply to  Ajay

Quatermass? Who is Q?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 2:17 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Quaalude.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:12 AM
Reply to  Ajay

This is a rhetorical question on my part being “Could you possibly provide some sort of rationale for your comment please ? ” And the answer would probably be “No”

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:08 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Just gone to your site and read your article “US Peas – A Russian Pod” – in my humble opinion a very perceptive piece of writing which presents a very balanced view, free of any emotional histrionics – you should post it up here for the benefit of all !

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 27, 2020 9:49 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Thank you for the comment. I’ll look for a related story to post it to.

1of7billion
1of7billion
Apr 25, 2020 1:49 AM

In theory I’m a big supporter of green and non-corporation based policies, but I think it’s not that easy to put them into practice when you’re trying to feed a world of over 7.5 billion people. That is to say, it might be better to feed everybody food that’s a bit poisonous – i.e. that is produced by use of pesticides – than not feed people at all. Starvation isn’t a nice way to die, seriously, dying of covid-19 is far preferable. The problem we have with environmental issues like how to produce abundant safe healthy food, is the same one we have with global warming, and with covid-19. The science simply isn’t there in a cast iron form to tell us what foods are safe and what are not. I mean, there is no such thing as 100% purity, there has always been something that is bad for humans,… Read more »

Reg
Reg
Apr 25, 2020 3:18 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

Maybe the trillions we spend on our fucking wars could be put to making the world a better place so that people are happy. Maybe we shouldn’t be poisoning the soil and forcing the farmer to head to a packed city to live like an animal. Maybe when more of the earth is green and well irrigated, then people would spread out and you wouldn’t feel like getting rid of “excess” human beings. Maybe then organic, healthy food wouldn’t be a choice that we would have to make with our “wallets/feet”. Maybe when there’s less misery, then you wouldn’t need a megalomaniac with a White Saviour Complex bringing “solutions” to the world of darkies.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:25 AM
Reply to  Reg

And maybe your comment, Reg, informs the world of the existence of a humane being who actually gives a fuck about the lives of others on this stricken orb. Well said, mate !

SteveX
SteveX
Apr 25, 2020 5:04 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

You may ramble on a bit, there, but your assertions are false. Organic farming routinely produces equal or slightly better yields when compared to gm crops, the latter being inevitably prone to their own unique problems, as it turns out. Moreover, planet Earth could support roughly 2 1/2 times the current population — that’s the “carrying capacity ” of the planet — if all arable land were properly used. And if we were perfectly efficient, so round down, to, say, 2x’s current population. (Incidentally, proper grassland management REQUIRES the use of grazing animals; they’re part of the natural ecosystem. So let’s eat some of ’em, lest they over-populate; that’s all-natural, too. Predators, you know. Meat: That’s what the human organism evolved, survived, and thrived on. 🙂 But not to worry about the planetary population— Current estimates are for a peak in global population at about 9 billion around 2050, with… Read more »

SteveX
SteveX
Apr 25, 2020 5:08 AM
Reply to  SteveX

Sorry, should read that Adam Smith observed that economic prosperity coincided with periods of increasing population.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 9:51 AM
Reply to  SteveX

When the population was about one billion!

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 9:50 AM
Reply to  SteveX

All the life-supporting biological systems are collapsing, and you want MORE people. In-fecking-sanity!

SteveX
SteveX
Apr 27, 2020 3:58 AM

Yikes, dude. Where’d I say THAT!?—

Oh. I didn’t.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:27 AM
Reply to  SteveX

Great Post Steve ! Keep ’em coming !

SteveX
SteveX
Apr 27, 2020 3:55 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Aye, but you’re a cunning runt, ain’tcha!

My pleasure. I love this place

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 27, 2020 3:57 AM
Reply to  SteveX

And I love your sputnik !

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2020 5:34 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

GM is certainly NOT proven to produce a lot more food. Restricting planting to the highest yielding varieties has been a disaster from the Irish potato blight to the 1930s maize failure and the resulting Mid Western dust bowl.

ame
ame
Apr 25, 2020 9:15 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

GM patent holder own the seed yer yer but you can only get one yerw ed and it contracted meaning lasts one season unlike nature forever
GM came out 25 years back remember dolly the sheep feed the world gm will feed the world
did it fuck

read 1 a billion posts and this come to mind clearly
HOW COVERT AGENTS INFILTRATE THE INTERNET TO MANIPULATE, DECEIVE, AND DESTROY REPUTATIONS
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 9:51 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

GE crops are notoriously poor producers.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:30 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Your three lines of text here, speak more truth than the effete ramblings of this Monsanto-Bayer apologist – Keep going and don’t let the bastards grind you down !

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:44 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Just to be clear here – the apologist I refer to is the one in seven billion – just in case any misunderstanding should arise within this forest of responses

Willem
Willem
Apr 25, 2020 6:17 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

It is not the first time I noticed that you are trying to gaslight people. So I have to ask, even though I know you will not answer the question or will ridicule me for asking the question: are you paid to write these articles below the line here?

Well maybe you’re not, but just remember Kurt Vonnegut’s advice that ‘we are what we pretend to be, so we better be careful what we pretend to be’

Stop trying to gaslight us, you are only fooling yourself.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 25, 2020 7:42 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

Guess who owns the National Geographic?
Good old Rupert.
And you read Wikipedia about the most heavily invested man in WHO?
I suppose you watch MSNBC daily?
The MS stands for Microsoft
But he’s a good guy old Bill
The land is fucked because of that roundup
The land which was given to us as humans is now a biohazard in many places.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Apr 25, 2020 9:44 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

Do you practice these chatter-fests on your mates down the pub, 1? That’s what they sound like. Please be aware: best-practice permaculture now easily outmatches poison/oil/greed-driven corporate industagri these days: in productivity (sic!), in cost/benefit ratio (sic, when accounted actually honestly), and in safety and planetary health. Try immersing yourself for a while in the work of – for example – permaculturists Geoff Lawton or Mark Shepard, to name two very different, but equally effective, practitioners, before volunteering (not shilling?) to do apologetics for the toxic/criminal idiocies of corporate industagri. And do you really expect any savvy reader to take National Geographic and – above all – Wikideceivia seriously as reliable sources of trustworthy facts? Really? Especially about unelected, unaccountable oligarchs like Gates? Precisely the intellectual crook JWales’ kind of favoured person. Regarding the movements of population-levels: see what Steve X says in this comment tail in reply to you.… Read more »

Dave
Dave
Apr 25, 2020 9:50 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

Don’t be daft pal. Go to any supermarket and you can see all the food in the bin. Usually surrounded by a fence and cctv these days.
But I admit it is important to be able to go to the supermarket and buy a fresh water melon at 2 in the morning.

BFBF
BFBF
Apr 25, 2020 6:38 PM
Reply to  1of7billion

Thank you Bill

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 1:54 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

Please scroll up and read my posting regarding Peter Joseph’s unravelling of the “myth of philanthropy” and you will think twice before conferring sainthood upon Gates

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 3:19 AM
Reply to  1of7billion

Dear “One of Seven Billion” – I don’t hate you – I don’t despise you – I don’t wish you any harm – I will just say that having read your Neo-liberal manifesto, I just hope and pray the the rest of the Seven Billion don’t turn out be like you – for then, if you will kindly excuse my French, we would all be well and truly fucked – Have a nice life – that is assuming you have one.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 25, 2020 1:23 AM

The interview with Vandana Shiva linked below piqued my interest regarding just what kind of good deeds Bill Gates has been undertaking with his billions among the poor of the world, so I tried to order her latest book on the topic: “Oneness vs. the 1% – shattering illusions, seeding freedom” – published June 2019 Rather oddly I can’t seem to locate a copy anywhere in the U.S. Strange given Ms. Shiva has multiple books currently in print and this is her latest. One is tempted to think her book might be getting the same treatment German reporter Udo Ulfkotte’s book (regarding the close relationship between the intelligence services and MSM) received when it was finally published in English only to then promptly be disappeared for the next 2 1/2 years. I finally traced the availability of a PDF version of Ms. Shiva’s book to a tiny feminist site, Spinifex… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2020 6:32 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Another journalist defending the billionaires, ascribing to Gates/Zuckerberg only the best of motives and to anyone who criticizes them, only the worst of motives.
Because there are no conspiracies in business. Ever! Repeat, ever! Rich people do not get rich by helping each other. They only get rich by accident and because they LOVE YOU.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 25, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

You obviously didn’t listen to the interview so why are you spouting such complete nonsense which is the complete “opposite” of what Shiva is saying?

Antonym
Antonym
Apr 25, 2020 7:42 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Vandana Shiva is getting rich from just talking down: The Rich Allure of a Peasant Champion

With U$ 40,000 a pop plus a business class ticket in 2014, today’s rate would be 50,000?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 9:54 AM
Reply to  Antonym

What? Did she say something nice about the Palestinians. And you, of all people, denigrating the love of money.

Roger G Lewis
Roger G Lewis
Apr 26, 2020 7:09 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

AnonSkeptic
AnonSkeptic
Apr 24, 2020 11:52 PM

Re https://mobile.twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1253089592338759680

Apologies for tacking this unrelated point to this articles comment section, but since I don’t have Twitter and have seen OffG participate in the discussion related to this post on there, I just wanted to share one glaring observation about that specific diatribe:

Why in gods name are you repeatedly smiling in a video prefaced with mention of wilful mass death?

This is a common theme amongst the more dogmatic state guidelines advocates, they never seem to take it as seriously as they want everyone else to. Their instinct is either failing them and they are unable to react appropriately in the face of such imminent danger or as is more likely their instincts are working just fine and is out of sync with their hysteria addled minds.

Reg
Reg
Apr 25, 2020 3:45 AM
Reply to  AnonSkeptic

She’s scary. What happened to her? I thought she was a voice of reason. Hey ho, another one dumped. She thinks ending the lockdown makes the rich richer. Well, they’ve just added another $280 billion to their fortunes.

RobG
RobG
Apr 24, 2020 11:49 PM

There seems to be a massive attack on this web site at the moment.

So just a heads up to everyone.

We are in very difficult times, but try not to despair.

The vast majority are sane, and that will prevail. I know it might not seem like that at the moment…

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Apr 24, 2020 11:15 PM

Is so glaringly obvious – that those of the masterly advantage are sunk deep inside the ninth circle, are far gone quack faced hypocrites, pushing a contaminated reality – spouting clean colouring us green, whilst pumping us with fossilized phooey and flim-flam foolery of moon hoaxed 911 ghost and gene spliced code stamped laboratory hustling – from beam wave frequency altering bomb to microwave heating implant treating vaccine round-up in cybernetic bone orchard underworld policing – but, whats brilliantly obvious is….that they’re a thing of the past – and now it’s We, who believe them to be – Nonessential.

Blane
Blane
Apr 24, 2020 11:49 PM
Reply to  Doctortrinate

On top of their art and architecture, the Romans built SEWERS that lasted 2000 years. At least the grossly rich assholes of their time could possibly claim to be “elite.” Our “elite” have given us shitty looking rectangles that fall down in 50 years, Basquiat, and Pollock. It’s disgusting, I’m a better painter than that those no talent ass clowns. Why would they even want to live in this cultural abomination with all its wasted potential when they could be building things and investing in art that last for millennia? Calling our fake “elites” non-essential is an understatement! Once you pull the curtain back, the emperor not only has no clothes, he’s getting a rim job from an underage vagrant.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Apr 26, 2020 1:44 AM
Reply to  Blane

Why would they even want to live in this cultural abomination with all its wasted potential when they could be building things and investing in art that last for millennia? Calling our fake “elites” non-essential is an understatement!

however you paint it – the systems been businetized and basterdized for a Very long time – I certainly wouldn’t say the “elites” are essential – but they’re are many have been content to feed from their plate – use their coin etc…..non ?

😉

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Apr 24, 2020 9:15 PM

…at the time of decolonisation in the 1960s Africa was not just self-sufficient in food but was actually a net food exporter with exports averaging 1.3 million tons a year between 1966-70.
The continent now imports 25% of its food, with almost every country being a net food importer.

Why is that, I wonder?

gordon
gordon
Apr 24, 2020 9:58 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

rape of africa
why is that
the empire of the city of london dear boy

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:13 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

Control of the food-chain as a geo-political pressure point has long been a typically Satanic policy objective of Thanatopia aka the USA. Add to that the chance to profiteer, and you have ‘American Moral Values’ naked and unadorned.

gordon
gordon
Apr 24, 2020 8:45 PM

Thousands of satellites are set to be launched for 5G which can send focused beams of intense microwave radiation over Earth; and local urban communities could have cell towers approximately every 500 feet long streets in the near future. The untested 5G plans of telecom to install millions of cell towers on electric utility poles, public buildings, schools, bus stop shelters, in public parks, and anywhere they want in national parks and on federally owned land has been gaining more and more attention and sparking concern. This development is troubling for those concerned about constant exposure to radio frequency radiation in close proximity to source; more alarming though is the prospect of beaming millimeter length microwaves back down to Earth from thousands of new communication satellites as SpaceX was given approval by the FCC on 3/29/2018 to launch 4,425 satellites into low orbit around Earth, and the total number expected… Read more »

jay
jay
Apr 24, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  gordon

It is the sharp falling and rising edges of digital encoded signals which can be problematic in terms of splurious induced emf.
As more information is crammed into the signals to increase bandwith, the more of these edges will occur.
However: The inverse square law means that the radiation Intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance.
All energy sources have dangers, even a fire early man used to cook his bats on.

Keith Pryor
Keith Pryor
Apr 24, 2020 11:36 PM
Reply to  gordon

Don’t worry. A good portion of those Spacex launches will crash and burn so at least that will slow things down.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Apr 25, 2020 12:12 PM
Reply to  gordon

Don’t you sometimes feel a certain contrarian pleasure that the Long Descent (qv: add ‘JMGreer’ to the search) away from hitech industrial ‘civilisation’ is already in motion – covid and its attendant socio-economic chaos being a typical, predictable and predicted incident in the unfolding – and seems likely to sweep away all these techno-narcissitic lunacies like 5G within – oh, probably a century; maybe less?

Is it really wrong to think quietly: ‘Good! Roll on!’ Doesn’t seem as if much less than this will finally halt the gangsters-in-charge – the gics – in their gadarene rush to extinction. Clearly they’re not going to listen to calls f.or prudent caution, with the scent of vast profits in their psychopathic nostrils.

Dave
Dave
Apr 24, 2020 8:45 PM
crispy
crispy
Apr 24, 2020 8:41 PM

Oh well done Off Guardian you’ve broken the f@cking mould, because i really was getting exceedingly bored with all this covid hysteria

Now i actually happen to enjoy Mr Todhunters writing,unfortunately the vast majority of people in the UK couldn’t give a flying f@ck about food, only how much it cost, otherwise they’d eat Soylent Green if push came to shove,and be f@cking happy doing so

Deeply depressing when one thinks about it,oh and no amount of scare stories about food will change the basic dynamic,which is this,British people are fat f@cking pigs who don’t give a flying f@ck about anything

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 10:50 PM
Reply to  crispy

I sense, you’re not a happy person.

crispy
crispy
Apr 25, 2020 8:54 AM
Reply to  Objective

Its true though

And yes it does make me somewhat angry

But I’ve come to the conclusion that people REALLY don’t give a f@ck and no amount of scaremongering will change things

The only solution,and I’ve been pushing this for most of this week is to get out,sell up,find some like minded people who live their lifes in a less stressful way,and actually start to live,as opposed to surviving in a state of perpetual self- induced misery

And no that doesn’t mean living a a dull life wearing a hair shirt,or some how copping out

Reg
Reg
Apr 24, 2020 11:36 PM
Reply to  crispy

Remarkable! I actually agree with you, crispy!

crispy
crispy
Apr 25, 2020 9:03 AM
Reply to  Reg

When I’m not being an arsehole i can be reasonably sensible

Reg
Reg
Apr 25, 2020 4:04 PM
Reply to  crispy

This version of you is much better.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 4:06 AM
Reply to  crispy

Wow ! – it has now been revealed – “The Wisdom of Crispy” ! If more folks displayed the sort of humility and self-awareness you have surprised us all with here – the world would be a much happier place – and your comment has given me something to reflect upon too – I think I might get a T-Shirt with that printed up on it. Cheers Crispy – I feel much better now !

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2020 8:04 PM
Reply to  crispy

Why just the British people? Is being short sighted and selfish traits confined to just one locality.

The problem is living by “animal instinct” alone is no way for any society to progress into “a bright future.”

lensman
lensman
Apr 24, 2020 8:24 PM

I have just finished reading a book called the secret life of plants written by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird. In this book it explains how many good human beings such as the likes of Dr Abram and Dr Ruth.B.Drown and many others have proven time and time again that chemical fertilizers are completely destroying human health and the environment, these peoples research and findings got shut down by big corporations such as the Rockefeller foundation and destroyed by media. This book was published in 1989. The poisoning of our food has been going on for a very long time as well as the battle to protect it. In a book called silent spring Rachael Carson makes it clear that the environment, which supports human life is being stressed to the point of collapse.In the u.s Doctors attribute poisonous chemicals to the rise in leukemia, hepatitis, Hodgkin’s disease and other… Read more »

crispy
crispy
Apr 24, 2020 9:07 PM
Reply to  lensman

….you know what my friend,we’ve been living in a giant f@cking petri dish for about,…
well the last century!

Basically humanity is fucked, the only solution is full mind uploading,then the plebs can have all they want without f@cking the planet to bits,they can live out their useless lives doing shit without harming Gaia 🌿🍀🌈🌳

Oliver
Oliver
Apr 24, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  lensman

Have a look at Vemork/Telemark in Norway. Production of nitrate fertiliser (as Norsk Hydro) and, curiously, heavy water.

ame
ame
Apr 24, 2020 10:59 PM
Reply to  lensman

rachael carson silent springs

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Apr 25, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  lensman

‘Mental disorders’ basically is something defined by certain human beings. What IS a ‘mental disorder’? Inability to sit quietly in a regimented classroom? Sounds entirely sane to me. But others call it ADHD. Far better to ask why energetic children are forced to be cooped up by sick adults instead of allowed to be out enjoying freedom as their natures dictate. Is a mental disorder ‘inablity to disbelieve lies’? Well, childhood is supposed to be about an innocence, a trusting of worthy adults, is it not? You know, ‘growing up’ was finding out that some adults are really dangerous and evil, some men cannot keep their hands to themselves, some women are a danger to all men, let alone other women and, at least according to the bible ‘the love of money is at the root of all evil’….. What exactly IS a mental disorder when we get down to… Read more »

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 26, 2020 8:25 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Rhys, you’re right on the money about them being mentally ill. When you say “No courtier ever told the king he was as mad as a hatter.” there was actually one who was allowed to say this kind of thing a long time ago. The Court Jester or King’s Fool was a fine institution that was abolished when they started taking themselves too seriously. The fool could take the piss out of anyone at Court, including the King, as long as he did it with humour. He could also speak out at any time. It was a way for the powerful to be aware of what the common man would think, and the humour drew the sting out of the implied criticism. Shakespeare featured many of these characters in his plays. It died out after the Civil War, probably being seen as unsuitable for the new puritanical zeitgeist. Perhaps we… Read more »

lod
lod
Apr 24, 2020 8:14 PM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/has-the-time-come-for-a-one-off-wealth-tax-mrt3bqs8m

Now they are coming for everyone’s money. I heard a German dissident finance guy talk about this coming down the pipe a couple of weeks ago. I think it was a video put up on here. Now lo and behold we have a mainstream UK journalist softening us up for it. Crazy times!

axisofoil
axisofoil
Apr 24, 2020 8:13 PM

This interview has most likely been seen by most. At Minute 15 in this Dr Shiva talk, he calls out Robert Kennedy Jr. as part of the deep state. Is this true?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 24, 2020 9:27 PM
Reply to  axisofoil

Wrong video

Yeah JFK got snuffed as he’s a part of the deep state..

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 25, 2020 2:48 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Read the speech that John F Kennedy delivered in 1963 and you will discover that he was against the Deep State and the M.I.C – and that speech was one reason why he was assassinated

axisofoil
axisofoil
Apr 25, 2020 3:10 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

I think we are getting our R’s and J’s mixed up here.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 25, 2020 8:46 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

It was sarcasm.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Apr 24, 2020 10:54 PM
Reply to  axisofoil

I keep an open mind on RFK Jr, but I recognise that he is trying to navigate a political minefield and may therefore make some dodgy compromises. WRT Shiva Ayyadurai, I hadn’t heard of him until about a week ago, but I think that any 56 y/o who claims to have invented email is likely to be a bit of a loon.

Kennedy’s site is worth checking out:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

and there are also recent interviews at The Highwire:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q

axisofoil
axisofoil
Apr 24, 2020 7:52 PM

Vandana Shiva on Monsanto. Really good interview.
https://youtu.be/MNM833K22LM?t=190

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 25, 2020 1:27 AM
Reply to  axisofoil

axisofoil – I hadn’t noticed you’d already posted this interview – I just finished posting it myself. I’ve been trying to find a hard copy of her new book here in the U.S. and it’s been an impossible task. Very interesting since it was published less than a year ago.

axisofoil
axisofoil
Apr 25, 2020 3:12 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

After the day is done, one of us should post it again. I couldn’t locate the book either.

axisofoil
axisofoil
Apr 24, 2020 7:49 PM
Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 25, 2020 1:35 AM
Reply to  axisofoil

I just tuned into RFK jr. and his work a few weeks ago and now receive his organization’s email updates. I for one deeply appreciate what his organization is doing and why. He always links the science, the studies, when critiquing government policies and behavior.

Willem
Willem
Apr 24, 2020 7:45 PM

So today, when I had a long break from work, I was walking around in my old neighborhood, where I lived as a student. And it just occurred to me how beautiful it is there. And I remembered that I also thought it was beautiful there when I was a student, and that I took the beauty for granted then. And then a couple of hours later I was driving in my car from work to home. And I listened to one of my old CDs, i.e., Radiohead’s OK computer and The bends. And I remembered that I really liked this music as a teenager. And that I had friends who liked the same music and that we were discussing or humming the tunes: Karma Police, High and Dry, My Iron Lung, Fitter Happier, Street Spirit (fade out). And the lines were very dark like We’re too young to fall… Read more »

Blane
Blane
Apr 24, 2020 9:07 PM
Reply to  Willem

The reason they say happiness is a choice, is because you have to CHOOSE to see the beauty in the world. That isn’t always easy to do on this planet, because the ugliness is so pervasive, whereas the beauty is much more subtle. There are still quite a few places however, where this relationship is turned completely on its head. In Utah for instance, in most places you look, the overwhelming beauty of the landscape is so profound that it makes the ugliness of the world seem as small as single tree on the vast mountainside. Here, the beauty is pervasive while the ugliness is much more subtle. It helps your mental health considerably, which in turn fosters an ambition to improve your physical health. If you look at the Covid numbers in this state, we have less deaths per capita than almost any other large population in the world.… Read more »

Blane
Blane
Apr 24, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  Blane

I should add that we’re one of 9 US states that didn’t have a lockdown, and we have the best Covid numbers in the country. The media doesn’t mention us, except to keep the weirdness reputation alive, which is just fine by me.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 24, 2020 9:33 PM
Reply to  Blane

May I ask what state?

Blane
Blane
Apr 24, 2020 9:52 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

No, absolutely no questions allowed in our new Technofascist Idiocracy™.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:21 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

Utopia-look it up. Right next to Erehwon.

Lorie
Lorie
Apr 24, 2020 10:04 PM
Reply to  Willem

well put, thank you!

Cassandra2
Cassandra2
Apr 24, 2020 7:27 PM

Gates is ‘ONE’ of Satan’s disciples.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 24, 2020 9:45 PM
Reply to  Cassandra2

He’s a busy boy isn’t he?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:22 PM
Reply to  Cassandra2

The entire political, business and media ‘elite’ in the West are a species of carnivorous, predatory, locusts, destroying everything, then shitting it out as ‘wealth’.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 7:26 PM

WANTED: some rock in the ocean..

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 2:20 AM
Reply to  Objective

Rockall do?

ame
ame
Apr 24, 2020 7:24 PM

Rosemary Mason’s would of heard of Rachal Carson it monumental in how ridiculous amounts chemicals are allowed to be sprayed each year sometimes several times a year in the us and also e.u
not talking chemtrtails either, this is legal allowed vertically unregulated sprayed on crops forests doesnt matter if it gets in the rivers they do not think like normal folks, that is the issues trying to understand this from a level of human empathy as they do not have any ….

videos and links below show they are beyond batshit crazy

documentary uncovers the astonishing science fraud being carried out by the EPA to legalize the mass pollution of America’s farm lands, school playgrounds and city parks with heavily contaminated industrial waste and human sewage.

—————
Washington becomes first US state to allow human bodies to be turned into compost
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/22/washington-becomes-first-us-state-allow-human-bodies-turned/

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 24, 2020 8:51 PM
Reply to  ame
RobG
RobG
Apr 24, 2020 7:06 PM

By way of a footnote, Icke’s video today starts with the cull that’s going on in UK care homes (something that I’ve been banging on about for the last month). At about 53 minutes in, Icke and his son give high praise to Off Guardian…

https://youtu.be/cO-Jvjhu3_E?t=49

David Icke is often perceived to be a nutter. Does Off Guardian think that Icke’s endorsement will be a help or a hindrance?

Personally, with all the total madness that’s going on at the moment, I’m prepared to believe that the Queen is a shape shifting lizard creature.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 7:25 PM
Reply to  RobG

Icke and his son give high praise to Off Guardian…

That’s off-G lost all credibility then.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2020 1:43 AM
Reply to  Objective

Never mind that. Who has any actual control about what another may say about them?

Icke is who he is. Let Off Guardian’s reputation stand on the quality, merit, nature and importance of its good work.

Peace.

Objective
Objective
Apr 25, 2020 2:14 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

I’m afraid as far as the establishment is concerned, its guilty by association.

The propagandized lump those that stick together into the same pigeon hole, its sad that Icke has so many avid followers, it taints everyone elses good work.

Peace & Goodwill

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 24, 2020 7:40 PM
Reply to  RobG

That was a strategic tactic to downplay the information and factual evidence.

He knows that. He’s 25 years at this and if he really cared about others reputation he’d have not said a word. He’s knows what he is at.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 24, 2020 8:45 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

I’ve had that suspicion myself i.e. that his true role is to discredit credible lines of argument by his endorsement.

RobG
RobG
Apr 24, 2020 10:48 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

I broadly agree with what you say. Thing is, Off Guardian is a small outfit, and Icke recently did a London Real interview that broke all records for online views in the alternate media (of course, this interview, and further ones that Icke did with London Real, have been repeatedly banned by You – are completely fucked – Tube).

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 24, 2020 11:04 PM
Reply to  RobG

London real aren’t real. Controlled opposition.

curiouscat
curiouscat
Apr 25, 2020 8:17 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

how do you know it’s controlled opposition?

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 24, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  RobG

Nah. She’s just a very weird inbred.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 24, 2020 9:53 PM
Reply to  RobG

The culling of the elderly is happening in the geriatric wards of the NHS too Rob. I have witnessed this myself.

RobG
RobG
Apr 24, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Nemo, if you are confident to do it, stick a post up top somewhere outlining this.

As someone who has relatives who work in the NHS, I do understand why many NHS workers will want to remain silent about this.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 24, 2020 11:51 PM
Reply to  RobG

Hello Rob, I’m not an NHS worker, I was the Primary Carer for my late mother for over a decade. I also have family who are NHS employees and Care Workers. My ex-partner was also an NHS health professional. My mother was the victim of the psychopaths who masquerade as Senior Clinicians in the NHS, a casualty of their eugenic policies. It is off-topic in this particular thread but when the appropriate opportunity arises I will post a detailed and graphic account of the cruel and inhuman treatment I witnessed, and fought, over two years at the end of her life. Their actions towards my mother were not personal, others around her were subject to their inhumanity too. I may even write a piece for submission to Off-G, though it would be a lengthy and harrowing read. I never understood the full implications of the phrase “the banality of evil”… Read more »

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 25, 2020 12:01 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

A glaring omission on my part above was the GP practise who initiated the cycle of neglect and cruelty in the first place. Another private business.

RobG
RobG
Apr 25, 2020 1:02 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Hello, Nemo. My apologies for misunderstanding you.

I also get very wound up about this because I also have a number of elderly relatives back in the UK.

The cull that is taking place of elderly people is beyond a disgrace. It shows a society that’s beyond being totally morally bankrupt. It shows outright evil.

By all means write a piece about this and submit it to Off Guardian. I don’t have a lot of sway with Off Guardian, but I’ll do everything I can to make sure it’s published.

Stay well (and as I always say) try to stay sane.

Best Wishes

Rob

RobG
RobG
Apr 25, 2020 1:23 AM
Reply to  RobG

ps, after many technical difficulties, and after being down for more than three weeks, my Burgundy blog should be up and running again this weekend, at a new address (but an old address for me)…

http://www.localradio.fr/blog

It is (or was) a widely read blog, and I’d be more than happy to host anything you want to say.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 25, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  RobG

I’ll check it out tonight Rob and thanks for the offer.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 25, 2020 1:50 PM
Reply to  RobG

Thanks Rob, I was in a permanent state of rage after mam’s death for about a year or so, but eventually came to terms with it. Stoicism has usually been my default outlook in life but I was sorely tested by her murder, for that’s what it was. It was actually a useful experience to prepare me for the present “white coat syndrome” that has gripped the planet. People don’t seem to understand that the medical profession is just as corrupted by mammon as the other professions. They have even stopped taking the hippocratic oath, when I first found that out I wondered why, but as the years rolled by it has become glaringly obvious. Your salutation to stay sane is the perfect rejoinder to those who use stay safe as a verbal form of passive aggression when out in public. I picked it up from you a while ago… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 2:23 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

I worked in hospitals for years. Doctors are often not ‘healers’ at all, but medical businessmen. Slack incompetence by a GP killed my father, grotesque and vicious incompetence by a locum GP killed my mother, and in-patient surgical incompetence and slackness killed my brother-in-law. I’ll go into a hospital willingly under almost no circumstances.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 24, 2020 6:53 PM

World Lock Down 2020. Brought to you by the Bill and Melinda Gates Eugenics and Euthanasia Foundation (Henry Alfred Kissinger, President) in cooperation with the Wilhelm Schallmayer-Alfred Ploetz-Henry Friedlander Institute (ridding the World of Untermenschen, Useless Eaters, Dogs and Cats and other assorted Riff-Raff since 1933).

“OLIGARCHY. It’s the New Normal, So Better Get Used To It… or else. Onward to the MASTER RACE!”

PS. Counselor and tower guard positions are opening up at FEMA camps Buchenwald and Auschwitz for the Summer and Fall Seasons 2020. Gas masks will be supplied at no extra charge.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 6:43 PM

Why do you keep blaming “capitalism” ? There is no such thing! So it can’t be the problem. Neo-liberalism (corporate globalization), is collectivism, socialism, or communism under a different banner. Call it what you like, what its not is freedom. It maybe crony-capitalism but it doesn’t meet the true definition of capitalism, if such a thing ever existed. Coming from a council estate, for 3/4 of my life I was a committed socialist, my personal background dictated it was my only hope for a better future (if you aspire for materialistic possession). Then 20 or so years ago my beliefs began to change, Just after Blair was elected. Now I see the value of self reliance & breaking away from the government teat. Not because my own circumstances have changed (i’m as poor today as i’ve ever been, i consider myself a great success in accruing no wealth or property… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 24, 2020 6:57 PM
Reply to  Objective

“crony capitalism” is actually existing capitalism.

“unregulated labour” is …what? total chaos?

“collectivism” is what a society is.

“self reliance & breaking away from the government teat” is …what? Total rejection of all societal influences? Stripping naked and going off to some rock in the ocean? Good luck with that one.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 7:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Good luck with that one.

Thanks 😉

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

He dresses his misanthropy in rambling verbiage.

Dave
Dave
Apr 24, 2020 7:55 PM
Reply to  Objective

I agree with Objective. “Breaking away from the government teat” does not imply “rejection of all societal influences” or even “stripping naked and going off to some rock in the ocean”.
James Corbett’s Solutions video leads us in the right direction.
https://www.corbettreport.com/solutions-solutions-solutions/
Kevin Cahill’s research shows us how much land is owned by not us.
https://archive.org/details/whoownsworldsurp00cahi

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 8:39 PM
Reply to  Dave

Exactly Dave. Being self reliant doesn’t = selfish. Though I am not religious in any sense, so don’t necessarily agree with the “gift to mankind” nuance, i do subscribe to exactly that principle, why shouldn’t anyone be able to say that piece of land isn’t being occupied, i can build my earth bag home there & look after my family grow consume & barter my own produce & skills, fix my own tools & machines etc. Freedom doesn’t mean no rules, you would need ecological protections & basic respect for one another (ie don’t kill or commit violence upon each other or take other peoples personal resources) those very principles of common law, socialists abandon the second they get elected. Self reliance & freedom doesn’t mean you cant help others, that’s your prerogative. But my freedom takes nothing away from socialism, socialism always results in taking the rights & freedoms… Read more »

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 24, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  Objective

You have just described American settlers down to a tee, apart from the religious ethic. If we found a new America and we pacified the natives, we could all build log cabins but we’d still have to barter… that’s collectivism. If we lived in a post-apocaliptical world we’d have to band together to protect ourselves from marauders… collectivism. Anyway, my point is look how America turned out, collectivism could have saved them from themselves.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:28 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Funny how you can see so many Merkins working to support others, yet the political elite are the most viciously Evil collection of xenophobic, pathologically greedy, Life-hating, misanthropes that have ever existed.

Dave
Dave
Apr 24, 2020 10:00 PM
Reply to  Objective

I don’t know much about Kevin Cahill’s beliefs but his books are good. You can get “Who Owns Britain” at the library… well you used to be able to…
I agree that standing up against the state is kind of what they want. I hope to just ignore them into irrelevance. Provide our own food, fix our own stuff, make our own entertainment, government is just an expensive layer of management. Perhaps people can take this time to see how little we actually need them.
But I always was a dreamer.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 10:34 PM
Reply to  Dave

Perhaps people can take this time to see how little we actually need them.

Or how little they actually benefit us. Never stop dreaming 🙂

Basher
Basher
Apr 24, 2020 9:53 PM
Reply to  Dave

Thanks mate, loves that. What a guy. Amazing knowledge. Having a long history works against us, it actually gives them a legal edge. Rebel

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 24, 2020 9:29 PM
Reply to  Objective

Ha. You’re an ageing libertarian anarchist. Have you a wife and kids? I agree with you on self reliance and innovation should be admired. However, collectivism doesn’t have to mean globalism. Communities work together all across the world, they always will because teams are a necessity. Neoliberalism is nothing like Socialism, I’m in appalled you should claim that, it shows how ideological you are.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 10:31 PM
Reply to  lundiel

You’re an ageing libertarian anarchist.

I’m no such thing, i’ll thank you for not telling me what I am, from reading a couple of paragraphs quickly posted on a public forum. I’ve known me all my life, so i think i’m a qualified expert on me.

collectivism doesn’t have to mean globalism

Socialism doesn’t have to mean taking away everyone’s freedom to protect the terminally sick & terminally old, but egotistical socialist politicians always end up crossing the line. Capitalism doesn’t have to mean privatizing profit & socializing loss but it inventively always does. Lots of things don’t have to mean anything, but when you put psychopaths in charge it wont end well.

When you put your destiny in some one elses hands you always end up disappointed. My ideology is freedom & truth, That’s all.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:30 PM
Reply to  Objective

What ‘socialist politicians’? In the UK? Do you mean Blair, Brown, Starmer or Hodges?

Objective
Objective
Apr 25, 2020 2:26 AM

Blair, Brown, Starmer or Hodges?

That’s what they call themselves

If you want the 20th century variety, try Galloway with his Hitleresk Sunday evening rants. Look where Hitler’s National Socialists ended up, i bet you’re going to tell me Hitler wasn’t a socialist either. RIGHT?

Now tell me what do you mean by socialist? Name one that wouldn’t put the whole country under house arrest, after a campaign of MSM Terrorism!

Just name one good successful socialist.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 25, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  Objective

Mao, Ho, Fidel for starters.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Meant to add;

Neoliberalism is nothing like Socialism, I’m in appalled you should claim that, it shows how ideological you are.

– Neo-liberalism – rules based society (doesn’t apply to elite rulers) = Slavery

This site froze up keeps wanting to check my browser for something, you know socialist surveillance.

breweriana
breweriana
Apr 24, 2020 5:56 PM

Much of the debate and ‘safety assessments’ centre on the glyphosate, bad enough on it’s own, whilst totally disregarding the additives that go into it to make the actual weedkiller that is sold.

Rather like when certain drugs are taken together, the weedkiller ‘cocktail’ is causing a leveraging effect, that has not yet been proven to be safe, at all. In fact, it would seem it is many, many times more dangerous to ALL forms of life, not just weeds.

More here:
Author: F. William Engdahl
https://journal-neo.org/2017/08/30/monsanto-it-ain-t-glyphosate-it-s-the-additives/

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 24, 2020 11:32 PM
Reply to  breweriana

The additives are known as ‘adjuvants’ and make Roundup deadlier that straight glyphosate. Just like the adjuvants in vaccines, many secret because proprietary. What’s more important-property or Life?

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Apr 24, 2020 5:19 PM

Though this article fuels my already strong and obsessive antipathy to the toxic – in every way – Bill Gates, I have to remember that is not Gates per se but the very meaning of oligopoly that is shown up in his foundation’s every deed. Money buys not only a good name (immunity from prosecution) but the narrative of the entire society, culminating in its death knell. There is no money given without strings – except, perhaps, by loving grandparents. If only he could come up with a vaccine and inoculate himself against virulent sociopathy.

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 24, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  nondimenticare

Agreed, with all the above. It’s not charitable philanthropy, it’s psychopathic misanthropy.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 25, 2020 1:25 PM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

Extract from Chapter Three “Structural Bigotry – The Economics of Oppression” from the book “The New Human Rights Movement – Re-inventing the Economy to End Oppression” by Peter Joseph, founder of the Zeitgeist Movement. This passage exposes the myth of “philanthropism bestowed by capitalism” and is a direct transcript of pages 108-109 Joseph writes: “While all charity is admirable, once it becomes institutionalised and funded to the extent seen by organisations such as the Gates Foundation, it turns into something different, with extended social ramifications. These elite charities are true , large scale institutions with power , engaging in lobbying, transnational partnerships, political policy alignments and so on. Where and how the George Soroses and Bill Gateses of the world mobilise money can have powerful effects on industry, politics, culture, academia, scientific research, national policy and the like. In the case of Gates, his foundation is “undeniably, the most powerful… Read more »

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 26, 2020 1:07 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

This looks like a good reference work with some interesting ideas Cupid, I’ll check it out. Financial and legal legerdemain is their stock in trade, using laws drafted for them by corrupted politicians. The product profits + externalities (problems), then problem solution profits + more externalities (more problems), … ad infinitum is a consequence of their infinite growth model. Total insanity on a finite planet. The externalities are deliberately excluded by financial and corporate law therefore the commons are freely exploited for corporate interest without recompense for the common good. The misanthropic pseudo-philanthropy as identified by Peter Joseph and discussed above is a public relations veneer, in the same vein as the hydrocarbons industry and their greenwash PR. An interesting insight into the narcissistic psychopathology of these people too. Deep down they know their self-love is unjustified, and then crave approval from their victims. It concurs with my own experience… Read more »

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 1:34 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

How kind of you, Nemo, to take the trouble to read my transcription and then to display your understanding – what a relief to know there are still some intelligent living beings on the planet !

Nemo Nomark
Nemo Nomark
Apr 26, 2020 2:30 AM
Reply to  cupid stunt

Your welcome Cupid, there are a lot more people who know these things than you think, unfortunately they are too afraid to speak up. It’s not their fault really, it’s their social conditioning. I’m too old and awkward to keep silent now.

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 26, 2020 2:38 AM
Reply to  Nemo Nomark

You may think you are old, Nemo, but I believe it is true to say that those who haven’t got the courage to speak out against injustice – regardless of their age – are as good as dead already

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 24, 2020 5:14 PM

When I got a new job in 1995, and made responsible for my bit of it, whilst the servers were UNIX based, the front end was based on Windows NT. I struggled with Windows NT for a few weeks, but it was completely and utterley useless, for the job that needed to be done, so I simply binned it, and whilst I also had little experience of UNIX at the time, I learnt UNIX shell scripting, and a bit of Oracle,and hacked it very quick and dirty, and it worked fine. When my son, was starting up his games thing (he was already a Microsoft Official Developer at the age of 12), he got an enormous amount of interest, from other kids the same age across the world, who wanted to play games. They sent him almost enough money to buy the bits for a server, to put in a… Read more »

Steve Church
Steve Church
Apr 24, 2020 5:27 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Welcome to the very satisfying world of agriculture on a small scale. I’ve been gardening for a good part of my life and loved every minute of it, back-breaking though it can be, at times. Potatoes are the easiest and a good way to supple up your garden. Just don’t plant them in the same spot too often. Have fun.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 6:46 PM
Reply to  Steve Church

back-breaking though it can be

There’s a solution to that ; Permaculture!

Steve Church
Steve Church
Apr 24, 2020 9:12 PM
Reply to  Objective

Agree. That’s our next project. Soon to be realised.

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  Steve Church

Non dig type of course, you may need a cat or owl as pest patrol

Steve Church
Steve Church
Apr 25, 2020 10:25 AM
Reply to  Objective

Interesting that you mention owls. Until last year (long story) we had a place in Burgundy with 3000 sq metres of land. Two vegetable gardens, fruit and nut trees, a barn housing a couple of owls, a decent sized flock of bats, and neighboring cats all of whom did a pretty decent job of pest control. Even a couple of small porcupines.

breweriana
breweriana
Apr 24, 2020 6:06 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Good.
Also worth it, if you have room, are Rhubarb, Gooseberry, Blackcurrant and Strawberries (these send out new plants so fast it’s hard to keep up). Once planted, they all grow forever (mine are well over 20 years old).

If you don’t like Rhubarb Crumble, then make wine – this goes for all the fruits above, too.
Strawberry Jam and wine are a delight.

Surplus plants sell easily at fetes and car boot sales, etc.

The only thing I would take issue with is the Rotovator.
About 30 years ago I hired one for the garden. Worked great – it churned all the pernicious weeds into the ground, but then it took me the rest of the season to dig them out by hand with the spade.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 24, 2020 6:48 PM
Reply to  breweriana

My wife does the fruit. She gets clouds of it. I love rhubarb. It used to grow fine, where we used to live, and I did try to grow it last year, but had no success. Probably down to the ph in the soil. The spuds should be fine. They were last year, but on a much smaller scale. She is handling this really well, and is very enthusiastic. Most of our friends, particularly the ones who live alone and do not have gardens, are not doing too well, and we are really worried about them. Some of them seem to be on the brink, so all we can do, is empathise with them, as if they are having a nervous breakdown, and say it will be O.K. It is that, which I find completely scary. Without my lovely wife, I would probably crack up too, but in the morning… Read more »

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 25, 2020 3:06 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

This is all turning into “Gardener’s World”. – I love it !

Steve Church
Steve Church
Apr 24, 2020 9:14 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Yes. Gave up too much weeding years ago. And the bees loved it.

TrueNorth
TrueNorth
Apr 24, 2020 6:13 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Thank you for the potato inspiration.

Loverat
Loverat
Apr 24, 2020 7:23 PM
Reply to  TrueNorth

All this reminds me of a Mapp and Lucia book. Lucia in wartime asking her queen of a husband, Georgie to cook up the spuds and turnips. He obliged.

Georgie later to become a famous cook on wartime radio.

Loverat
Loverat
Apr 24, 2020 6:16 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

So much to love about this site. The stories here are excellent. Off G when this is over please invite Tony to do his ever so slightly off topic half hour. We deserve it.

beer
beer
Apr 24, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  Loverat

Yes, a gardening column 😀

TheThinker
TheThinker
Apr 25, 2020 8:59 PM
Reply to  beer

I agree, I have a degree in Horticulture and learnt a lot more besides growing up on my parents allotment 🙂 Swapping heritage seeds is the way to go via post or join local seed swaps to get hold of what you need.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 24, 2020 7:54 PM
Reply to  Loverat

I think a green fingered revolution can be inspired with all this great practical knowledge 🙂

cupid stunt
cupid stunt
Apr 25, 2020 3:04 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

On the subject of food, this is what Netanyahu had for lunch today – A Hamas Sandwich and two whole fried guerrillas for starter, followed by a large buttered baked dictator, washed down with a glass of Lebanon Lime- sorry about posting that up, but I’m slowly going loco in here. . . . . . .

Mrs Gardener
Mrs Gardener
Apr 25, 2020 2:01 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Ditch the rotovator, it kills the soil biome, go for no-dig. Charles Dowding is a good place to start. Much much easier. good luck.

elsewhere
elsewhere
Apr 24, 2020 5:03 PM

Slightly OT: I cannot figure out why Bayer purchased Monsanto knowing full well 42.000+ RoundUp suits were coming. There must be some hidden agenda there. Or is it just arrogance of the oligarchs?

TrueNorth
TrueNorth
Apr 24, 2020 6:20 PM
Reply to  elsewhere

Genetic engineering is an extremely valuable technology that Monsanto invested in heavily.

ame
ame
Apr 24, 2020 11:18 PM
Reply to  elsewhere

42.000+ RoundUp suits were coming
pocket change they have friends/enitys in special places
thye will pay out 5/6 bill and continue
how much did the cigarette lot pay out?
what about the flimditmit morning sickness tablets that mad people spastic
whta about asbestos
TSS from tampons poisoning
opiate lot?
HSBC bank launderers drugs and cartel and child sex trafficking money fraud.

i will be here until next life time showing you theses type of true example crimes they pulled of and got away with.

there insurance against it, if not insured against it, tax payer put it up or they pay it and get a tax rebate from the fine
and so on and so forth

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 24, 2020 4:19 PM

Bill Gates and his cronies told to go take a hike by India and Kenya.
James Perloff quoting Robert Kennedy Jr.’s findings @45 https://youtu.be/RpQCnvhZstg?t=2742

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 24, 2020 4:17 PM

The Gates Foundation invests in, among other things, chocolate, and, as everyone knows, there is no such thing as child labour free chocolate.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 24, 2020 5:04 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Any good links on the chocolate involvement?

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 6:49 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Whats wrong with child labour?

Don’t confuse that with exploitation or modern slavery.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 25, 2020 9:44 AM
Reply to  Objective

Objective, child labour is contrary to international law, and the child labour in question is brutal, almost entirely forced labour and often slave labour.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 25, 2020 10:45 AM
Reply to  Steve Hayes
S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 24, 2020 4:13 PM

A point by point critique and analysis of the video with its strengths and weaknesses will be most appreciated. Thank You.

Steve Church
Steve Church
Apr 24, 2020 4:11 PM

Yeah. Just great. Food policies that kill, vaccines that kill. Gates and Co are truly monsters. Time to boycott anything related to these assholes (and that’s rather a lot of stuff. But don’t worry, you don’t need it). Won’t be easy, but it can be done. Switch to Linux or Unix for a start. I once found (but no longer have the link for some reason) an outfit in the UK that built laptops basically from scratch that had these systems already built in. Aside from going back to pencil and paper, computers will probably be here for a while, and we’ll have to live with the inevitable planet destruction associated with them for a while. And yes, I hate being tied to corporate destruction. But I’m convinced that there are ways to drastically reduce our harm to the planet, and to ourselves, by avoiding buying the shit so constantly… Read more »

elsewhere
elsewhere
Apr 24, 2020 5:03 PM
Reply to  Steve Church

“I’m just an old fart ashamed of what we’ve allowed to happen.” Ditto!

Objective
Objective
Apr 24, 2020 6:52 PM
Reply to  elsewhere

I’m saying this whilst I look in the mirror (not pointing a finger at you) Maybe old farts are the reason it happened.