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Consortium News deploys the CIA’s “conspiracy theory” meme

Mark Crispin Miller

The late, great Robert Parry founded Consortium News in 1995, in response to “a crisis building in the U.S. news media,” whose allergy to inconvenient information he knew all too well from having worked for Newsweek and AP.

“The mainstream media was falling into a pattern of groupthink on issue after issue, often ignoring important factual information because it didn’t fit with what all the Important People knew to be true,” wrote Parry in 2015.

“Looking back over the past two decades,” he continued, “I wish I could say that the media trend that we detected in the mid-1990s had been reversed. But, if anything, it’s grown worse. The major Western news outlets now conflate the discrete difficulties from made-up ‘fake news’ and baseless ‘conspiracy theories’ with responsible dissenting analyses. All get thrown into the same pot and
subjected to disdain and ridicule.”

Such was the tactic used to make Parry himself look like a kook, when he shed light on Iran/contra and the “October surprise,” just as it was used in the mid-Nineties to demolish Gary Webb, the investigative journalist who broke the story of the CIA’s drug smuggling out of Nicaragua.

By then the tactic had been used successfully for roughly thirty years, after the CIA, in its Memo #1035-960, first weaponized the phrase “conspiracy theory” to discredit critics of the Warren Report.

By the time Parry founded Consortium News — as George Seldes (in 1940) and I.F. Stone (in 1953) had founded their respective antidotes to the propaganda gushing from the US press — “conspiracy theory” had been absorbed into the hearts and minds of everybody in the US and beyond, so that most people felt — and feel — that they must distrust their own quite rational suspicions of elite attempts to rob them of their rights and freedoms, as if the very notion of such covert class warfare, waged by Them against the rest of us, is absolutely crazy on its face.

That is a very dangerous idea, as it has largely incapacitated We the People, by giving them a sentimental misimpression of executive authority, so that they often can’t believe our government would do the things it’s actually, demonstrably, been doing to the rest of us, and peoples all over the world, for decades.

From the assassinations of our most beloved leaders, to the initiation, and protraction, of gratuitous wars and rightist coups abroad, to the orchestration of horrific terrorist attacks on our own soil, to the stealing of elections everywhere (including here), to the harassment and imprisonment of whistle-blowers and other activists, to the shattering experiments in mind control inflicted on prisoners, mental patients, students and other helpless people, to the routine approval of drugs and vaccines that do lasting harm, and even kill; and so on.

Those independent outlets bold enough to tell the awful truths that all the other media ridicule as lunacy are few and far between; and Robert Parry’s was among the best of them.

I say “was” because Consortium News has just gone over to the enemy, by publishing a solemn editorial highlighting UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres’recent diatribe against the “dangerous epidemic of misinformation” about COVID-19.

“Wild conspiracy theories are infecting the Internet,” raved the UN chief (see above video), casting all such dissident material as itself a plague that — clearly — must be “cured,” which is to say, wiped out, just like that apocalyptic virus.

And what, exactly, would those “wild conspiracy theories” urge us to believe?

Social media has been inundated by opposition to vaccines, promotion of the idea that Covid-19 is just like a normal flu, that hospitals are empty and that enforced self-isolation based on medical advice is a plot to impose a permanent police state.”

Guterres, or his speechwriter (or handler), did his best to make what Parry called some quite “responsible dissenting analyses” sound as unhinged — and dangerous — as possible.

All four of what the Secretary-General “decries” as “wild conspiracy theories” are obfuscations of important facts that everybody needs to know, in order to protect ourselves from real “misinformation” that’s more dangerous than COVID-19.

1) “Social media has been inundated by opposition to vaccines.”

Thus Guterres, following Big Pharma’s script, casts advocates of vaccine safety as “anti-vaxxers,” which is like calling critics of Vioxx, or opioids, “anti-drug,” or critics of GMO’s, glyphosate, or refined sugar, “anti-food.”

While there are arguments against all vaccination, and some pop up online, what’s “inundating” social media, and what Guterres actually deplores, is wholly valid information — scientific studies, records of the US Vaccine Court, product inserts from the vaccine manufacturers themselves, as well as harrowing personal accounts of vaccine injury — on the dangers of particular vaccines, such as the MMR, Gardasil and flu shots, among other proven toxins.

Also “inundating” social media are reports on scientific studies of the various drug therapies — hydroxychloroquine (in combination with azithromycin and/or high-dose Vitamin C), remdesevir, Ivermectin, Interferon Alfa 2B (from Cuba), Avigen (a Japanese flu drug), a placenta-based cell therapy from Israel, and so on —that would obviate the need for a new COVID-19 vaccine.

Such is the solid and important information that’s “infecting the Internet,” according to the UN Secretary-General — and the editors of Consortium News, who, apparently, would also like to see the Internet “disinfected.”

2) “Social media has been inundated by … promotion of the idea that Covid-19 is just like a normal flu.”

While that “idea” is clearly ludicrous — “a normal flu” does not entail acute hypoxemia, nor is it fatally exacerbated by the use of ventilators —Guterres’ blanket charge would necessarily include an “idea” that’s not ludicrous at all: that the death rate among COVID-19 patients is comparable to that of influenza.

Such is the important finding of Dr. John Ioannidis’s team, from their study of COVID-19 antibody seroprevalence in Santa Clara County:

True infection rate fatality is in the ballpark of seasonal influenza,”

We find much the same rough equivalence in a Dutch study, suggesting that 3% of Holland’s population may have the coronavirus antibodies, with a case fatality rate of 0.7%.

Such numbers offer us a very healthy antidote to the terroristic coverage of this crisis by the media, whose “wild” exaggeration of the danger facing us — exaggeration that’s now proving far more lethal than that virus — is based wholly on the shrieking prophecies of doom that we’ve been hearing from Bill Gates, WHO’s Tedros Adhonam, and now the UN Secretary-General, who seems to want us to be paralyzed with fear — and, evidently, so does Consortium News.

3) “Social media has been inundated by … the idea … that hospitals are empty.”

While some hospitals are overwhelmed, as their workers have been saying (or would say, if their bosses hadn’t gagged them), a lot of hospitals are empty — too empty, as fear of COVID-19 has kept all too many people far away, with grave conditions (strokes, heart attacks, diabetes, appendicitis) that would ordinarily have them in the hospital.

As for the field hospitals set up last month to handle the expected mobs of COVID-19 patients (at the Javits Center in New York, the CenturyLink Field Event Center in Seattle, and on the USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy), they’ve now been closed down for lack of business, while others (at McCormick Place in Chicago, and in New York’s Central Park) appear to have few patients, if the many photos of them in the local press failed somehow to exclude the suffering masses there.

To call this a “conspiracy theory” is to contradict what people the world over (myself included) have seen with their own eyes — and, again, to stoke the panic that is killing off the world economy, and, with it, countless people, mostly poor.

4) “Social media has been inundated by … the idea …. that enforced self-isolation based on medical advice is a plot to impose a permanent police state.”

This last of Guterres’ charges of “conspiracy theory” is his craziest. Leaving aside the fact that there’s much expert “medical advice” against the policy of “enforced self-isolation” (a consensus that’s been growing steadily), the signs of the police state are as blatant as a rubber bullet in the eye, as governments have sicced the cops on people the world over, dictating day-to-day behavior with the zeal and vigilance of any Nazi Governor or Soviet commissar.

Perhaps the Secretary-General of the United Nations could devote some resources to tracking the abuse of power by national, state and city governments worldwide, as cops now use surveillance drones to badger people taking walks in Paris, Britain, Spain, California and Elizabeth, New Jersey, as well as in the UAE and (of course) China;

And as “governments in Italy, Germany, Austria, China, South Korea and Taiwan have begun analysing smartphone data so as to determine to what extent populations are really locking themselves down at home,” as Forbes reported a few weeks ago (noting that the US and UK were close to doing the same);

And as the cops in Colorado handcuffed a man (a former cop) for playing catch with his daughter in a park, and the cops are fining residents of Beverly, Massachusetts, a Boston suburb, $100 for walking the wrong way on the township’s one-way sidewalks, and thirty cops raided a child’s birthday party in Los Angeles, and the governor of Michigan has banned travel between two residences in the state; and so on.

It would take a full-time staff to keep track of such police-state measures, now commonplace throughout the “democratic” West just as in Dubai, Colombia and the Philippines.

However, the prospect of “a permanent police state” — singular — is obviously looming not just in the crackdowns by those disparate governments, but also, or especially, in the clear agenda of the globalist cabal in which the UN Secretary-General serves so prominent a role.

It’s no “conspiracy theory,” but an established fact, that the World Health Organization, the Gates Foundation (WHO’s most lavish funder), the World Economic Forum, the Clinton Foundation, UNICEF and the component giants of Big Pharma have joined forces in “Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance,” a “public-private partnership” that is explicitly intent on vaccinating every human being on Earth, through house-to-house campaigns by goon squads (personnel with “minimal training”) ready to confront and overcome resistance.

Nor is it a “conspiracy theory,” but a matter of public record, that Gates intends, through those mass vaccinations, to inject every member of the human race with a “tattoo-like mechanism,” so that one’s vaccine history may be read instantly by cell phones; and it is also not a “theory” but a fact that, in the meantime, Gates et al. plan to require everyone who wants to leave the house to carry “immunity certificates” — a concept first proposed in Germany two weeks ago, and one that Dr. Fauci says is “being discussed” for roll-out here in the US.

Even if this dystopian scenario were groundless, as the UN Secretary-General has charged, it’s no “conspiracy theory” to point out that this crisis has been most convenient for the powers that be, as it has instantly and totally snuffed out vigorous protest movements that were growing all around the world.

From the un-silent majority supporting Bernie Sanders here in the US, to the Yellow Vests in France, to the robust protests of state corruption and/or neoliberal economic policies in Chile, Argentina, Honduras, Ecuador, Brazil, and Haiti, Indonesia, Lebanon and Cameroon, to the feminist uprisings in Mexico and all over South America; and so on.

“2019 may be remembered as the year of the protests, as demonstrations are engulfing the world,” FAIR noted in December (in an article spotlighting the Western media’s exclusive focus on Hong Kong).

The COVID-19 crisis has extinguished all that fire, and blocked all public memory that it was burning — just as World War I stamped out the rich political ferment of the Progressive Era in the US, and like developments in Europe; and just as 9/11 put an end to the growing grass-roots pushback against “free trade,” and the mass refusal to accept Bush/Cheney as legitimate, after the theft of the election in 2000.

As effective as those prior crises were at ending mass resistance and dissent, they were as nothing by comparison with this crisis, which has not just silenced everyone, but has us all cut off from one another, locked up under quasi-voluntary house arrest.

* * *

Thus this crisis has not only radically empowered governments throughout the world, and granted international authority to a gigantic “public-private partnership” intent on exercising full control over our very bodies, and our children’s bodies — and, as well, the world economy, and global food supply (two “conspiracy theories” that I don’t have space for here).

While thus exalting those authorities, the COVID-19 crisis has also disabled actual mass protest of that empowerment—the only kind of protest that our masters fear — by terrorizing people into staying home, and keeping far apart when we skulk out, to go buy groceries (if any) and medicine (if we can afford it).

Maybe the snuffing out of all that protest was deliberate, or maybe it was just an inadvertent benefit of this apocalyptic crisis. Either way, it’s really happened — just as some vaccines are toxic, unnecessary and/or ineffective; and the number of COVID-19 deaths is comparable to that of influenza; and many hospitals are standing empty, even in the places that, reportedly, are hardest hit; and the prospect of a “permanent police state” is very real, its signs quite clear to anyone who’s half-awake, and not gone blind from having drunk the Kool-Aid gushing endlessly from “our free press.”

To warn us not to heed those dismal facts by calling them “wild conspiracy theories” is not only a Big Lie, and a form of gaslighting, but — in light of what will happen if we don’t face up to them — a crime against humanity.

We would expect that “wild” Big Lie from the UN Secretary-General, just as we’d expect it from Bill Gates, or Dr. Fauci, or — especially — the New York Times.

What we would not expect is that Consortium News would echo that Big Lie instead of blowing it to smithereens, as Robert Parry always did as a reporter of forbidden truths, and as he clearly meant Consortium News to do.

That even his dissenting forum has now joined the thunderous propaganda chorus drowning out the truth about this lethal crisis—along with “Democracy Now!” and other outlets on “the left” — tells us that we’re in even bigger trouble than we thought, and that we must fight all the more intrepidly to honor Robert Parry’s name, by following his great example.

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Peter Fisher
Peter Fisher
Jun 22, 2020 2:53 PM

Since Parry passed, Consortium News has gone to the dogs. I don’t read it anymore as it has gone woke and any dissent in the comment section is deleted, or not published. It’s a sham.

Harry Chest
Harry Chest
Jan 24, 2021 12:06 AM
Reply to  Peter Fisher

Or, they call me a liar because I asked them not to get like Alex Jones and didn’t think that I read them or Robert Parry.

zoltan jorovic
zoltan jorovic
May 18, 2020 11:40 AM

Who decides what is a legitimate concern and what a conspiracy theory? When does one become the other? It seems obvious that there is no clear border between them and that like most things there is black and white with a big zone of grey which shades gradually from one to the other. The job of journalists is to try to extract the light from the dark. But too often people continue pushing theories that have long been discredited by thorough investigation. Then what?

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 27, 2020 7:51 PM

CIA and UN are two peas in a pod of a genetically modified Roman empire.
People afraid are figuratively sucking on the teat of the UN and media releases.
The memes are swallowed with gusto.
Like media cult members deeply indoctrinated they know ( or so they believe).
So identified with the content of their minds psychologically other opposing ideas (such as the facts )are seen as a threat to their very existence.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Apr 27, 2020 7:38 PM

Hello it was the UN that told people he was being tortured and if you
believe the UN well…theres no hope .
Assange is CIA , obviously as no enemy of Washington just lollygags( not
assassinated which is weird right?) around an embassy making babies and
partying with other celebs.
And that wikileaks was developed by CIA to catch whistle blowers before
they leaked.
Some people don’t have reasoning minds and don’t know who is a NWO shill
and who isn’t.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 28, 2020 5:40 AM
Reply to  BDBinc

Yes, I’d never believe anything from the UN, BDB, however, I do believe images that don’t show signs of doctoring and that are completely consistent. While Chelsea could not have looked perkier after her alleged 7-year stint in jail that included 22 hours a day of solitary confinement (the Masonic 22s in Chelsea’s story blow one’s mind), Julian did not look at all well after his confinement in the Ecuadorian embassy. The reason for the massive difference in appearance between the two? Chelsea is an intelligence asset and used the faked Collateral Murder video to infiltrate Wikileaks while Julian is genuine in wishing to leak important documents. That doesn’t make him a saint but there is zero evidence of him being an intelligence asset. Of course, they could have toned down Chelsea’s perkiness to give her more credibility but that’s not their MO – nope. They push it in our… Read more »

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 29, 2020 1:39 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I really don’t have any axe to grind with Assange, honestly. But, honestly too, have any given a glance to the considerable well-sourced evidence in his regard at http://www.spitfirelist.org ? The founder of that site, Emory, is pretty provable as the research successor to Mae Brussel, practically her heir apparent, and I sat five feet from him in a small group 2 or 3 years ago, in his last public lecture, February 18, in South Pasadena, L.A., while he raised his voice and looked up from his notes and said, “People, they are spies. SPIES!” And Assange is a key focus, among a number, for Emory. Of, course, in our spookocracies and gangster states, today, who isn’t? But sad punchlines aside, he is quite adamant that Assange is a double, “or triple”, agent. A fake -out. Of course, he’s not an oracle, nor others, which I why I say look… Read more »

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 29, 2020 1:41 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

MY BAD: http://www.spitfirelist.com

I conflate com and org too often, but its easy enough to do!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 29, 2020 2:54 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

John, I think it’s pretty straightforward that Julian is not an intelligence asset for the reasons I explained in my last comment. Also, as Wikileaks has been infiltrated, things he says might be guided by misleading advice he’s getting from infiltrators. Perhaps the nonsense he says on 9/11 is a result of that misleading advice.

I went to the spitfire site and put Assange into the search. The blurbs on the resulting articles seem very unconvincing. If you can point me to a specific piece of what might be called evidence, please do.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 29, 2020 3:16 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Already did. The sources aren’t good enough?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 29, 2020 5:44 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

OK, John, describe in your own words a piece of the evidence showing he’s an intelligence asset. Here’s more evidence he isn’t. I’ve written a comment on an article by Philip Roddis that includes discussion of Henry Dunn, a 19 year-old alleged to have been killed by a UK-based CIA agent, Anne Sacoolas, driving on the wrong side of the road, 400m from an RAF base where she was visiting her husband, who managed to return to the US without trial due to “immunity”. My comment provides evidence that the alleged death is, in reality, a psyop. https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/26/three-new-reads-april/#comment-158760 I vaguely wondered, cluelessly, the purpose of this psyop but reasons for psyops are not really my area, I’m really only good at getting the psyop itself. After I posted my comment I came across an article headlined: Harry Dunn family call for blocking Assange extradition on lack of reciprocity grounds http://french.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/23/619364/UK-US-Harry-Dunn-Julian-Assange-Extradition… Read more »

joey_n
joey_n
May 6, 2020 11:38 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

What are the opinions of Spitfire List on Israeli influence on American foreign policy, BDS, and Israeli-Palestinian relations?

joey_n
joey_n
May 7, 2020 12:03 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Upon searching ‘Assange’ on Spitfire List, I found this:
http://spitfirelist.com/news/alt-right-assange-the-facebook-virtual-panopticon-and-the-victory-of-the-trumpenkampfverbande/
The preview says:

WikiLeaks is a fascist, “Alt-Right” institution that aided Trump’s election. Facebook, one of whose largest stockholders is Trump supporter Peter Thiel, also helped aid the election of “The Donald.”

Spitfire List also views Assange as some anti-Semite. I have yet to see evidence that confirms this.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 7, 2020 2:24 AM
Reply to  joey_n

It’s all there at his site. I posted the links elsewhere, as well as this thread. I met Emory a couple years ago and he was talking about THIEL that afternoon. If you Google different keywords you’ll be sure to find it all. That’s how I did. He’s vilified by some known bad guys, so that’s a reference!

I always remind myself that I’ve been fooled on occasion, but I’ve been listening to Emory off and on for 35 years, and I’ve never been able to catch errors, though clearly so many things I can’t prove, or disprove. I would love to believe Assange is all that he says he is.

joey_n
joey_n
May 19, 2020 4:09 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Well, dang.
Until coming across this, the impression I got is that WikiLeaks managed to expose American war crimes.
Later on, I searched for ‘Hillary Clinton’ and ‘Obama’ to see what Emory thought of them and what he knows of the war crimes Barack Obama committed during his presidency. Some of the articles I found seemed to portray Clinton and Obama as victims of ‘right-wing’ psychological warfare. Is it my imagination, or does SpitfireList in general have a pro-Clinton, pro-Democrat bias?

Brett Harris
Brett Harris
May 28, 2020 5:56 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Julian might be the real deal, but members of his so-called defence team have some very dubious associations, even to the untouchable crook Bill Browder. Some like the admitted CIA recruit Geoffrey Robertson QC, is testifying in parliamentary inquiries across the planet, pushing for Browder’s fake Magnitsky Act, designed to “allow” a Western club to interfere in any countries internal affairs and sanction anyone on the planet.https://www.thekomisarscoop.com/2019/11/assange-lawyers-links-to-u-s-govt-bill-browder-raises-questions/

MikeH
MikeH
Apr 27, 2020 3:09 PM

Divide and conquer – fake-news psychological operations have definitely succeeded with this disappointing article as anybody, apart from those already entrenched in their own opposing viewpoints, will merely be left confused and unenlightened. Off-Guardian contributors themselves are becoming less effective and convincing in their clarity of argument. Pity!

Arby
Arby
Apr 27, 2020 12:35 PM

Those of us who were paying attention would have noticed that Consortium News had gone bad some time ago. (See “Progressives – part 4” / https://arrby.wordpress.com/2019/11/04/progressives-part-4/

I also noticed a while back that Mark was spouting establishment propaganda about the father of modern day counterinsurgency (General Maxwell Taylor) JFK. For those who forget their Pentagon/ intelligence agency jargon, counterinsurgency means State terrorism. (It’s a bit of an eyesore but here’s my compendium on the Kennedy brothers: https://app.box.com/s/nrb7s56g6qzwi9323nuve1irt8oe4lpc)

Watch these people OG!

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Apr 27, 2020 8:16 AM

Social media serves the same purpose as gossip did for spreading rumors in the pre-Internet age. It wouldn’t be so harmful if it wasn’t for media outlets in their frantic search for me-too type clickbait picking up selected rumors and making them concrete. This is not only a dereliction of duty by the media but it opens the door to manipulation, the creation and circulation of rumors to generate a particular political outcome.

It does seem to me that a lot of journalists look for stories that fit a particular template — they look for events to fit a narrative rather than forming a narrative around events.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 7:24 AM

While some hospitals are overwhelmed, as their workers have been saying (or would say, if their bosses hadn’t gagged them), a lot of hospitals are empty — too empty, as fear of COVID-19 has kept all too many people far away, with grave conditions (strokes, heart attacks, diabetes, appendicitis) that would ordinarily have them in the hospital. What hospitals overwhelmed? It’s an assumption to say that workers would have been saying if not gagged. I mean, come on. They’re dancing in the hallways. They so rub this in our faces. I cannot believe that people will say “it’s blown out of proportion” when you see the in-your-face presaging of what’s happening now at the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony. People are so expert at ignoring evidence. They just gloss right over it. There is no way in the whole wide world that the opening ceremony didn’t deliberately presage the alleged… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 7:25 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Oops! Not age of cop, age of alleged detainee.

Tony Kevin
Tony Kevin
Apr 27, 2020 7:11 AM

I recently posted three comments to this thread. I cannot find them. Are they being editorially vetted ?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Apr 27, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Tony Kevin

No, there’s no vetting. But sometimes a comment will just fail to appear. I checked in the spam folder and there’s nothing from you there. We advise people to keep copies of longer comments against this possibility.

Tony Kevin
Tony Kevin
Apr 27, 2020 7:10 AM

I recently posted three posts to this discussion. I cannot find them. Are they being vetted? Tony Kevin

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  Tony Kevin

No, refresh the page, change the sort order.

Richard Tamm
Richard Tamm
Apr 27, 2020 2:58 AM

Mark! I carefully listened to the short video speech by the UN chief, Antonio Guterres, that you have linked at the start of this article you wrote. He never said what you quote: “Social media has been inundated by opposition to vaccines, promotion of the idea that Covid-19 is just like a normal flu, that hospitals are empty and that enforced self-isolation based on medical advice is a plot to impose a permanent police state.” Did he say this somewhere else? If he did, it would be good/important to include that link. Otherwise people may wonder about the disconnect between what he is saying and what you are quoting and countering. Thanks! Great article, but this disconnect is rather jarring for me.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Apr 26, 2020 11:41 PM

This should have been headline news around the World: The WHO Vaccine Safety Summit (Dec 2, 2019)

The Highwire (Del Bigtree) full episode
WHO is lying to you?
Streamed live on 9 Jan 2020
https://youtu.be/82KJGSLT2e4

Playlist of short clips (17 vids):

Jean Ranc
Jean Ranc
Apr 26, 2020 11:10 PM

Finally, after a year and a half of the editor of Consortium News, Joe Lauria, censoring all of my comments with an electronic block against all of my email addresses, I feel vindicated by Mark Crispin Miller’s expose of what’s going on in that once superb, pioneering on-line journal. Thank you, Mark! I became the target of Lauria’s blockade after daring to challenge his editing, not only of the one piece I’d gotten published there, but for expressing my concern over what he was doing to distort the work of other CN contributors, whom I admired. So there was that… then after he refused my offer to write a piece in collaboration with Italian journalists on the infamous US military base, Camp Darby, on the Tuscan coast of Italy, which is our largest off-shore weapons arsenal in the world, he falsely accused me of reacting “unprofessionally”. After that, I occasionally… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 1:28 AM
Reply to  Jean Ranc

Bravo, Jean. Nil bastardi carborundum.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 27, 2020 1:11 PM

I’m lost in the language of translation: just to clarify, is it bravo or brava, here? Enquiring minds want to know.

Jean Ranc
Jean Ranc
Apr 27, 2020 2:11 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Good morning John, In French, “Jean” would be masculine translated “John” of course, but I’m an American woman who retrieved my French ancestral name, “Ranc”, when I divorced and legally joined the clan, who were French Huguenots and fled Catholic persecution after the Edict of Nantes was revoked. But now, as Glenn Greenwald warned us in his book, there’s “No Place to Hide”, so we must take a stand where we are to write and fight!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 27, 2020 6:18 PM
Reply to  Jean Ranc

Greenwald would know, sans doute, as all signs point to him as a deeply embedded asset of the 4th Reich. Spitfirelist.com has chapter and verse on those connections, beginning more or less with his 20+ part series, Eddie the Friendly Spook. I’ve been listening to Emory for over 30 years, met him, he’s read something I sent on his show, and now double back often to the website above. Never been able to catch him in any fabrication, though clearly we can’t prove much.

Thanks for the clarification on name and handle, it was exactly as I thought: displaced old school French name, spelling, so the Huguenot roots add up. My nickname, as a long inside joke, is Jean Val-jean, so I knew about that part, but I figured you were female, so as not to conflate it with Jeanne.

It’s all good in the ‘hood!

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 29, 2020 10:08 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Bravissimo!

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 27, 2020 2:46 AM
Reply to  Jean Ranc

Jean – thank you for sharing that story. I now understand that I’m in better company than I realized in also being blocked for some time now from commenting at Consortium. Very sad to see that site descend into such mediocrity, but it certainly isn’t alone among “progressive” media that have now done so.

Loverat
Loverat
Apr 27, 2020 7:06 PM
Reply to  Jean Ranc

Jean Ranc

There’s been quite a bit of stuff like this going on which always surprised me not least because you’d think alternative media editors would be different.

Not so, so and hard to reconcile their attitude with their stated purpose and supposed reasons they went into this.

There is a snobbery and culture of not wishing to support new authors and engaging those wishing to get involved. Its no wonder alternative media struggles to get people to donate. Ive had similar attitudes with other sites but theres not much point pushing it beyond giving them a few home truths and leaving it at that.

In your position I would advise if people are difficult take your work elsewhere. If good, it will get published.

I honestly wouldnt worry too much. Big egos are in the places you wouldnt necessarily expect to find them. Fact of life sadly.

Jean Ranc
Jean Ranc
Apr 27, 2020 9:53 PM
Reply to  Loverat

“If good it will get published.” I wish, but alas it’s no longer so. Once upon a time in the 70’s, as a regular writer of “letters to the editor”, I was recognized by a feisty, young editor as witty & wise so was instantly transformed into a columnist and thus, went on to cover the ’72 NH primary for that regional NH-VT newspaper. And in those bygone, pre-Neoliberal days, I had a satirical verse published as an op-ed in the NYTimes, which now censors any & all of my comments which don’t conform to The Official Liberal Script…until I canelled my subscription & no longer bother to read it. Ditto, The Boston Globe, where my op-eds were published in the 70’s but most recently the insipid op-ed editor (whose emails to the DNC asking how she & The Globe could help Hillary in the ’16 NH Primary had been… Read more »

Loverat
Loverat
Apr 27, 2020 10:55 PM
Reply to  Jean Ranc

Jean Ranc I know what you mean. But Ive been around and Off G really is a great site whether a reader or author. Without going into my story too much Ive had a few negative experiences elsewhere, including CN and am amazed at the contempt some sites have for supporters. Some time ago I decided to contribute to whichever site provided the best coverage and treated their readers and authors properly. I took my time during this process and discounted a fair number during this time including CN, Mintpress and others. Im happy with the choice I made. By the way, I note you are a pyschologist. I went to one a few years ago and she taught me some good coping strategies for dealing with difficult people Mind you at the end I got the sense she couldnt work me out at all. But I found it quite… Read more »

Jean Ranc
Jean Ranc
Apr 27, 2020 11:21 PM
Reply to  Loverat

So where are you published so I can read your work? Meanwhile, I’ll shout out again to the Off-G Editors: SEND ME YOUR POSTAL MAIL ADDRESS AND I’LL SEND YOU A CHECK TO HELP KEEP YOUR MARVELOUS SITE RUNNING…until we figure out a better means of funding like writers-readers-owned co-ops? I don’t put my credit card on the internet…especially not on sites where their Silicon Billionaire founders/owners get a cut!

Nikola Milosevic
Nikola Milosevic
Apr 29, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  Jean Ranc

I am with you on support subject…. Every month I got email from PayPal that some founds get out to sites like this one makes me sad since then I support both sides.
Tks
Nikola

Dhaem
Dhaem
Apr 26, 2020 9:27 PM

Excuse me for intruding on your convenient fantasy, but Robert Parry is DEAD. So you have no idea how he would be reacting to the pandemic, real or not. Just as many of us, some with vastly more experience than you, were surprised, sometimes disappointingly, by icons like RP, you might very well be raked over the coals. Humility is a good thing, especially in your role.

Alpine Observer
Alpine Observer
Apr 26, 2020 9:40 PM
Reply to  Dhaem

It’s called an opinion, and people are entitled to hold one.

Dhaem
Dhaem
Apr 26, 2020 9:45 PM

Exactly! Which I just did. Thank you for validating that.

Don Quixote
Don Quixote
Apr 27, 2020 3:00 AM
Reply to  Dhaem

So your entitled opinion is, expressly, merely to assert that others haven’t sufficient understanding of the issue at hand to express an opinion.

“Robert Parry is DEAD. So you have no idea how he would be reacting to the pandemic, real or not.”

The pompous stupidity of this statement speaks for itself.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 27, 2020 2:01 PM
Reply to  Dhaem

Besides, the article indicates that he IS dead. Perhaps it should have made that more explicit, but it makes it clear that Parry is in the past tense. I never trusted CN, from the start. Can’t put my finger precisely on it. I published at OpEdNews because they suggested one bagatelle I posted at People Count about voting reform 15 years ago might be expanded at their site. They first posted it under my name, but not long later under the elections editor Brunwasser name, without making it searchable by my name, then someone truncated the latter part about native Americans and their relation to voting philosophy, and the most important part, how (American) corporate culture had genocided the Indians here as part of a longer range plan to pulverise tribal roots such as you find in other countries, especially (“Majority”) 3rd World, as part of a yet bigger plan… Read more »

Cassandra
Cassandra
Apr 26, 2020 8:36 PM

Thank you very much for publishing this excellent commentary. Mark Crispin Miller is an indispensable Thank you very much for publishing this excellent commentary. Mark Crispin Miller is an indispensable voice in times like these where critical minds are being marginalized and ridiculed, as the Guterres’ video clearly shows. Like a broad-spectrum antibiotic (eradicating different bacteria) the term “conspiracy theory” (CT) works as a “broad-spectrum” STIGMA-WORD (eradicating dissent) but in both cases “resistant strains” cannot be avoided. The irony here is that many journalists fall into the CT-trap while considering themselves to be intellectually superior to the masses. In his essay “On Disobedience” Erich Fromm offers us a hint on how this acceptance of a seemingly “rational authority” works: “[…] a captain of a ship giving orders in an emergency, acts in the name of reason which, being universal, I can accept… ” The CN editors believe that Guterres, the… Read more »

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  Cassandra

Amen, especially to the last paragraph.

And there is also no vaccine for HIV-AIDS, after nearly 40 years. David Crowe has done much to expose the myths surrounding HIV-AIDS, Ebola, SARS, and is now doing a good job on SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19.

jjc
jjc
Apr 26, 2020 8:25 PM

Consortium News has published several dozen stories on the coronavirus. The one cited in this piece is not a “solemn editorial”, it is a factual presentation of a public statement by a senior UN official which is newsworthy, agree with him or not.

At no point is Consortium News expressing a party line or telling its readers what to think. This O-G article certainly is.

Gall
Gall
Apr 26, 2020 7:23 PM

I think you, Jon Rappoport and Anti-Empire are the only two that haven’t bought into the CoronaCon(TM). I gave up on VT who with Clinton loving Duff has totally gone to the dark side. Now he’s singing in the chorus with the rest of the soulless MSM zombies posting total BS about Trump recommending that people inject Lysol. I watched the briefing and Lysol wasn’t even mentioned. Never mind injecting that shit. Hey but why let facts get in the way of a good narrative? Anyway the height or absurdity was my wife getting an email the “Other 98%” a Soros astroturf outfit asking her to sign a ridiculous pledge not to inject Lysol and the company coming up with some lame warning. Personally I was kinda miffed for not receiving one myself from change.org because I would have told them to use the “pledge” as a suppository. Aside from… Read more »

der einzige
der einzige
Apr 26, 2020 9:19 PM
Reply to  Gall

Add James Corbett. I was happy when I saw that Off-G and James are doing a Plandemic program together. There’s a chance James will change Off-G’s mind about Mossange. I failed despite dozens of documented entries, but James is James 😉
Everybody who used the brain knew it 10 years ago

acar burak
acar burak
Apr 27, 2020 4:25 AM
Reply to  der einzige

Do you think white is black, good is evil, truth is lie, der einzige? Do you like kicking cats as well?

My impression of James Corbett, from little I’ve seen, is that he’s another con man, only less vulgar than Alex Jones. But as I haven’t bothered to analyze him thoroughly I haven’t replied to another poster’s similar comment in another article. Now, thanks to you, he’s fully exposed.

Off-Guardian’s flirtation with such a pest (James Corbett) is very disturbing. A charlatan, a conspiracy theorist tries to smear a very honorable and decent man being tortured for exposing real conspiracies of catastrophic consequences.

der einzige
der einzige
Apr 27, 2020 7:23 AM
Reply to  acar burak

It’s not me and James who has trouble distinguishing colors, only your super hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG23AyiIObk
You will remind me what it was “exposing real conspiracies of catastrophic consequences.” Because I somehow do not associate any such story. The MSM in which your spuper hero published did not publish such things.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 27, 2020 6:03 AM
Reply to  der einzige

Excellent points from the Jameses, Evan Pilato and Corbett. Treat every source as disinformation.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Apr 26, 2020 7:22 PM

Excellent piece, Off-G! I hope you’ll feature many more from Mark Crispin Miller.

I am normally a died-in-the-wool pessimist; however, the protests that are now occurring in the US and elsewhere are making me just a teensy bit more optimistic than usual. I really think our message is starting to have an impact. The fact that globalist organizations like the UN now have to publicly denounce (and therefore, in a back-handed sense, promote) our views as “conspiracy theories” is probably good news. Heck, even some on the alt-right seem to be getting it! The Daily Stormer, for example, has been aggressively promoting the Wisconsin protests, which only seem to be getting bigger and bigger.

Pessimist that I am, I know it’s all too good to last …. but I’m still savoring it while it does!

Loverat
Loverat
Apr 26, 2020 7:52 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Seamus Keeping positive is the way. And knowing that one day you will be vindicated. In the last 3 years Ive detected a change in the way alt media and a few others are getting their point across. Theres a new strength and passion in the message which took a while to get through. Its the quieter voices getting the message through. Tim Hayward who seems a very mild mannered professor man speaking at ‘Media on Trial’ in Leeds was awesome. Piers Robinson too and his work since. If Media on Trial is back on this year, Im going to drag everyone here along – not because their message is different to this. But because this group of 6 experts are extremely effective at a live event breaking down complex matters to an audience on the start of their journey. Kit Knightly getting his face out there was a great… Read more »

Hank
Hank
Apr 26, 2020 6:24 PM

CDC said the flu claimed 80,000 people in 2017/18 and that’s with a flu vaccine?

The US National Academy of Sciences says,

Specifically, in the absence of vaccination, about 77 million infections, 470,000 hospitalizations, and 130,000 deaths would be expected during an influenza season.
https://www.pnas.org/conten

Remember Corona or Covid19 has no vaccine

Interesting stats to say the least. We never went into lock down for any flu or virus in the past till now yet they were far more dangerous even with a vaccine than Covid19 without.

Also consider that New York, Michigan, New Jersey, California , Illinois, Pennsylvania, Louisiana and Connecticut are by far the highest numbers of Covid 19 deaths are also run by Democrats and account for 40,000 of the 54,000 deaths in the USA.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 11:54 PM
Reply to  Hank

You seem to imply that flu vaccines “work”. I am by no means convinced.

BTW, a COVID-19 vaccine trial is taking place in Oxford.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/national/18401424.coronavirus-will-covid-19-vaccine-trial-work/

Note that it uses a “placebo” that isn’t a placebo, but actually a real vaccine (against meningitis). What could possibly go wrong?

The reason to test one vaccine against another is that they can make the side effects disappear. Most of the side effects are from the non-biological ingredients, so comparing one vaccine with aluminium against another with aluminium means the aluminium side effects will be approximately equal, and you can say, no additional side effects in the new vaccine.

Rushing science will bring damaging products.

Hank
Hank
Apr 27, 2020 8:39 AM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

No I never said they work or don’t, show me where I said that?

I’m showing you so called scientific data that shows that influenza is far more dangerous than covid19 without a vaccine.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 27, 2020 9:25 PM
Reply to  Hank

Stierscheiss! Horse manure Hank.

I’m typing this near L.A., and under Gavin Newsom, way blue Lefty Governor, a Democrat, the total in a state of 40 million Californians we have had only over 1500 deaths in over a month, and even the very right wing OC Register admits that out of the 40 deaths we have had here -OUT OF 3.1 MILLION IN ORANGE COUNTY~ only a few people died who didn’t already have serious illnesses. You can count them on hands and toes!

How could you post such lying tripe?! Granted, we are much more fatalities than Vermont, but they only have 1% of our population. We have a 100 times their population.

Please, as a favor to the facts for us all: get real.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Apr 26, 2020 6:06 PM

In September 11, 2017, I mentioned 9/11 on CN while Parry was still alive. He deleted the comment. I then wrote to him via contact and was told that virtually everything on 9/11 was hysterical nonsense and would not be allowed. This is the Parry you are glorifying in this article. I wrote again saying at least are there not questions, and can we not ask questions? No response. Parry died and Joe Lauria took over. The tradition followed on of not allowing 9/11 comments. If one passed and got in somehow it had to be very mild, or maybe it accidentally was overlooked. Lauria then in time started deleting my comments and even entering them and altering them. I assume it was Lauria as editor-in-chief, maybe I ‘m wrong on that. So I gave up on CN as with anywhere else doing the same. At this time I note… Read more »

Gall
Gall
Apr 26, 2020 7:39 PM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

Same with Alexander Cockburn over at CounterPunch who’d attack anybody who didn’t swallow the high yield super jet fuel bringing down the towers as being a crazy “conspiracy theorist” back in late 2001 when many of us were questioning the “Official Conspiracy Theory”.

It’s obvious they were the controlled opposition from the beginning. Now they’re no longer the “opposition” in reality. This goes for the Intercept, Unz, Moon Over Alabama and Veterans Today who have totally bought into the Covid narrative.

VT is on their soap box claiming its a deadly bioweapon. I don’t dismiss this possibility but I agree with Jon Rappoport that if it was then it was a dud. I mean if it was soooooo DEADly why do they have to fudge the number of fatalities?

der einzige
der einzige
Apr 26, 2020 7:47 PM
Reply to  Gall

add to your list yet Paul Craig Roberts
https://www.unz.com/proberts/coming-out-of-lockdown-unprepared/

Gall
Gall
Apr 26, 2020 8:52 PM
Reply to  der einzige

Yeah I know. I started reading the article and had trouble holding down breakfast. You think I might have the Corona Virus? 😉

der einzige
der einzige
Apr 26, 2020 9:06 PM
Reply to  Gall

According to him, if you don’t have an N95 mask, that’s for sure 😉 Yesterday I “fought” with the “libertarian star” Ilona Mercer

https://www.unz.com/imercer/the-ethics-of-social-distancing-a-libertarian-perspective/

Gall
Gall
Apr 27, 2020 1:11 AM
Reply to  der einzige

Gawd Mercer should get a triple A + for twisted logic. She’d do Goebbels proud. She’s about as “Libertarian” as Adolf Hitler.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 27, 2020 2:50 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

Spot on – it was probably my referencing of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth peer reviewed journal published research that got me banned at CN.

der einzige
der einzige
Apr 26, 2020 5:01 PM

Consortium News has long been a shit worth website with full censorship and pushes many official narratives. Like the Mossange case. Off-Guardian also promoted this psyop, thankfully he allows to express a different opinion. Democracy Now is always zionist propaganda
https://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/26/democracy-now-criminal-cheerleaders-for-perpetual-conflict-and-bloodshed-in-syria/
The whole story of the Plandemic is litmus paper like 911 and allows you to sift the grain from the chaff in so-called “alt-media”.

@InProportion2
@InProportion2
Apr 26, 2020 4:24 PM

It has been quite noticeable that since Robert Parry’s demise, Consortium News does seem to have lost its way, the conspiracy thing confirms that the milk really has gone off

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Apr 26, 2020 5:35 PM
Reply to  @InProportion2

Yup. Same thing happened to CounterPunch a few years after Alexander Cockburn died. It just happened quicker at Consortium after Parry’s death.

Kevin
Kevin
Apr 26, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Again, like Robert Parry, Alexander Cockburn would not allow any questioning of 9/11.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:17 AM
Reply to  Kevin

The problem with 9/11 is that the OBVIOUS truth of controlled demolitions of three towers, and missile attacks on the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania, has been drowned out by lunatic claims of ‘directed energy’ weapons’, mini-nukes, holograms and other garbage that discredits all the cogent theories that oppose the Official Lies. Some of these may be peddled by real lunatics, but most, I think, are deliberate disinfo by the powers-that-be, like JFK being shot from a sewer grate, or by his own Secret Service guards, accidentally, from BEHIND (!!!??) and other twaddle re. the JFK hit.

John
John
Apr 28, 2020 1:51 AM

No offense, but rejecting something that you have not studied as “lunacy” is not logical. “Lunacy” is anything sufficiently far from the mainstream. As you will probably agree, mainstream contains a lot of disinformation. Therefore, the truth often seems to be an extreme point of view, i.e., “lunacy,” to those under the spell of mainstream propaganda. Your obvious truths are total insanity for someone closer to the mainstream than you are, e.g. Robert Parry (who I think sincerely could not believe that 9/11 was an inside job). If you want to get to the truth, you need to study the evidence, keep an open mind, and avoid such labels as “lunatic” because they have been programmed into you by propagandists so that you never get to the horrible truth. It doesn’t help that almost every conspiratorial thinker claims that those who disagree with him/her (even in the smallest of details)… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 29, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  John

‘Spammed’, again! Predicting 9/11 was no great achievement. As Chris Bollyn has shown, the Zionists who committed 9/11, had spent plenty of time preparing the US group psyche for attacks, by planes, on Manhattan towers, and even the Twin Towers in particular.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

True/True

pasha
pasha
Apr 26, 2020 3:37 PM

Well, when you yourself have gone full out wack job, everything that contradicts your wackjobbery looks like evil government propaganda.
In just a few short months Off-G has gone from principled opposition to rabid insanity. I only come back occasionally in the hope that rationality might break through, but there’s no sign of it.
Crackpots are just another variety of clown. And you lot can stew in your own stupidity.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 26, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  pasha

Very intelligent input.

Yes you’re right. From your analysis you’ve debunked every bit of material here.

RobG
RobG
Apr 26, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  pasha

Well then, go back into the cupboard under the stairs and tremble in fear, while living on dry biscuits and bottled water; oh, and don’t forget spare batteries for your torch (and whatever you do don’t go out into the sunshine). I’m sure the ’emergency’ will be over in, well a long time after you’ve expired and those nice people in the government will make it all better.

Oh, and as you tremble in your cupboard under the stairs, also don’t forget to wear a noddy suit and a gas mask, because I can almost guarantee that if this madness continues the psychopaths who rule us will start another world war.

Reg
Reg
Apr 26, 2020 5:31 PM
Reply to  pasha

Why do you record ANY death as a covid-19 death?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 9:29 AM
Reply to  Reg

Exactly!

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 26, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  pasha

Ah pashe, you want a “principled opposition” – perhaps that awfully nice Keir Starmer who will provide exactly the kind of rational, sensible, competitive, efficient and cost effective middle ground we so dearly need to make responsible decisions!

Gall
Gall
Apr 26, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  pasha

You must be the Global Village Idiot.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 26, 2020 3:31 PM

Clare Foges of the Times loves Big Brother: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-need-big-brother-to-beat-this-virus-5b0njl68r We need Big Brother to beat this virus Hands in the air! Step away from the Easter eggs!” The Keystone Coppery of recent weeks has had some people muttering darkly that we are heading the way of a police state. Those who style themselves as defenders of ancient British liberties will soon have bigger fish to fry: the digital surveillance tools that government hopes to use to trace the infected. Prepare for dire warnings of state intrusion and an avalanche of Nineteen Eighty-Four quotes on social media warning that Big Brother is upon us. All that troublesome critique pre-empted there! Yet if we are to beat a path out of this pandemic without destroying our economy, overblown concerns about threats to our liberties must be countered by pragmatism. To recover some semblance of normality before a vaccine is found, we must… Read more »

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 4:24 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Normally these vacuous space-filling scribblers are fairly harmless since no one seriously takes any notice of them, but unfortunately, in this case, she’s doing active harm.

Gall
Gall
Apr 27, 2020 1:16 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I can see why many of the writers here ran not walked to the nearest exit of the Guardian “News” room. Sheeeeesh.

Igor
Igor
Apr 27, 2020 3:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“Public support for these measures is high, for the simple reason that they are working.” And who tells us that these measures are working? Who tells the doctors to record any death as a virus death? The same people who always tell us there is an issue that requires desperate measures. People that are deeply connected to governments, corporations, and NGOs with agendas. It’s like the WMDs in Iraq. No WMDs, now Iraq is just another failed state with oil in MENA. A war that never ends, a wound that never heals. The same people who told us that virtual airplanes crashing into buildings can cause spontaneous controlled demolition that collapses the towers into their own footprints. Not just once, but twice, and even a third time even without involving an image of an aircraft. Only link to the Saudis? A KSA passport that supposedly fell out of one of… Read more »

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 10:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

ex-David Cameron speechwriter. Nuff said.

Howard
Howard
Apr 26, 2020 3:20 PM

Certainly Consortium News is now a “gatekeeper”; I would argue it always was. Dissident voices are tolerated so long as they expose things which can easily be blamed on a particular individual or group of individuals as “bad actors.” Exposure of things which can only be blamed on the system itself are never tolerated. That is the litmus test not only of “dissidents” but of periodicals purporting to offer a dissident point of view. It’s okay to pin a rap on an Ollie North; but not okay to pin a rap on US imperialism. Hence a Robert Parry gets to keep his reputation; whereas Julian Assange gets thrown in jail.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 26, 2020 3:16 PM

Just picked up this wondrous line from Corey Morningstar:

When the “left” applauds with Laura Bush, Gates et al. – there is no “left” left.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 4:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

True. The left-right model was always dangerously over-simplistic, but it’s meaningless now. I always have to qualify it when I say that I’m on the left, but most of the alternative terms are equally loaded and questionable.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Apr 26, 2020 5:47 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

I no longer care about the left-right axis at all. I actually see the world more in terms of top vs. bottom.

Reg
Reg
Apr 26, 2020 5:54 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

And that has always been the only true division. The rest is a con trick.

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 7:15 PM
Reply to  Reg

Difference between left – right is the spelling as when one gets into office the agenda continues

USA wanted a wall it got lock down even more debt same as u.k
greatest economy ever slogan for the brainwashed within a few months theee worse
bail out for the Chosen
and crumbs for the poor
the poor low income are represented by billionaire even millionaire wow

Waldorf
Waldorf
Apr 26, 2020 8:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

When a leading British SWP apparatchik was just as pleased by the brutal murder of Gadaffi as Killary Hlinton was, it was like a flash of lightning showing what is really going on. Controlled “opposition” – yes.

Igor
Igor
Apr 27, 2020 4:59 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Current events with a government-corporate partnership shaping public policy would really motivate any true anti fascists.
Instead we get street theater performers acting out according to scripts written by Intelligence.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 26, 2020 2:56 PM

Sad but true about Consortium News. I’ve given up on the site because along with Disqus, Medium, and Youtube, I can no longer post at Consortium. Most recently I tried posting the link to the excellent Swiss site updating on medical studies from around the world and discovered my post that originally showed, had been removed. Not the first time they have simply censored information that doesn’t fit properly. Very sad.

Joe
Joe
Apr 26, 2020 2:52 PM

I am the virus

Leonardo
Leonardo
Apr 26, 2020 2:52 PM

I say “was” because Consortium News has just gone over to the enemy, by publishing a solemn editorial highlighting UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres’recent diatribe against the “dangerous epidemic of misinformation” about COVID-19. This is the reason I favour journalism over “information activism”. Because when you are an activist you think in terms of a “cause” more than in terms of “truth”, so much so that when someone disagrees he immediately becomes a traitor that is doing the enemy’s work and not just somebody that might just sincerely disagree. I guess this comment will earn me a lot of dislikes, but I’ll say it anyway: solidarity and simpathy to Consortium News for this unjustified attack. A few days ago I wrote that while I disagree with you guys about the whole Coronavirus topic, I still support your right of saying what you think even if I find it lacking. You shouldn’t… Read more »

pasha
pasha
Apr 26, 2020 3:40 PM
Reply to  Leonardo

Well said. You’re more polite that I am.
The rest of you are nutters and you may all commence screaming now.

andy ellis
andy ellis
Apr 26, 2020 4:15 PM
Reply to  pasha

did you over do it on the sauce last night Pasha ? maybe a little hangover anger ?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 26, 2020 4:29 PM
Reply to  pasha

Everyone a nutter for having evidence that’s rightly questions the corona narrative?

Extremely naive judgement.

Reg
Reg
Apr 26, 2020 5:34 PM
Reply to  pasha

Why do you record ANY death as a covid-19 death?

Russ
Russ
Apr 26, 2020 3:50 PM
Reply to  Leonardo

And where praytell is this “journalism” which cares about “truth” instead of a “cause”?

Certainly nowhere among those terror-mongering and calling for police state measures. That is their cause, and never once have they let truth get in their way.

Leonardo
Leonardo
Apr 26, 2020 5:34 PM
Reply to  Russ

For example, Consortium News’s journalism. I live in Italy and here we know what this virus can do when it gets out of control and manages to saturate the national healthcare system: people starts dying in the thousands. Not just old people, but also younger people that can’t access ICU units anymore. The Coronavirus is not especially lethal per se, but it has a tendency to cause complications in vulnerable subjects that might become deadly in case of a lack of means to mitigate them. In March, in some locations in my country death figures tripled with respect to previous years. So, while the terror-mongering has been excessive, the opposite reaction, that minimizes the effects that this virus can have, is as childish and unscientific as the other. The simple truth is that many governments faced an epidemic whose potential consequences are not yet fully understood. So the decision was… Read more »

Reg
Reg
Apr 26, 2020 6:00 PM
Reply to  Leonardo

There will be a series of vaccines to make you “safe” from all boogeyviruses. So sit back, relax and don’t commit suicide from the economic and psychological stress of it all. If you do, we’ll count it as a covid-19 death, OK?

Leonardo
Leonardo
Apr 26, 2020 10:20 PM
Reply to  Reg

You know what I find abysmally sad?
To see how even most of the people that come to an alternative website like this, end up just playing the part of sports team supporters. Everybody has his/her favorite team and if you don’t belong you are a malicious individual that stands with the enemy. It’s appalling and idiotic.

I was pretty argumentative in describing and defending my criticism, and you met it with lunatic-looking sarcasm. It’s ok. You could choose to argue like an adult or like a child. You chose the latter. So, I’m out of here.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  Leonardo

I was a member of a team of one, but then realised that any team that would have me as a member was not one I wished to join, so I quit.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 9:40 AM
Reply to  Leonardo

Leonardo, Can you provide a link to an alleged sufferer of COVID-19 who looks convincing? My blog post provides links to seven sufferers on my website including an Italian and none of them are convincing while the videos of a couple of them are absolutely ridden with anomalies. https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020 The post also provides links to: — an interview with the husband of a woman who died after allegedly contracting COVID-19 on the Ruby Princess but his interview is ridden with anomalies. — three “miracle survivor” stories that are highly anomalous “Miracle survivor” stories are a common feature of psychological operations (psyops). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_operations_(United_States). Of course, miracle survivor stories are not mentioned in the wikipedia page but from my study of a large number of psyops I have come across a number of “miracle survivor” stories and that is why I know they are a feature. I state categorically that if… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  Leonardo

Should be more specific:
In the absence of any evidence that supports a pandemic, I state categorically that if there really were a pandemic that every single person shown to us as an alleged sufferer would not be unconvincing.

There is no evidence that supports a pandemic. There are anomalies in the figures every which way you look and nothing says that all reported death and illness cannot be ascribed to causes other than COVID-19 … and, in fact, in a number of cases we KNOW that COVID-19 is not responsible. If we know the figures are wrong in some cases and there is nothing in particular to suggest they are right in others why would be believe any figures are correct?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:21 AM
Reply to  Reg

No vaccines for the cold, AIDS, MERS or SARS, after decades yet we are supposed to believe that a SARS 2 vaccine will be magicked up in months??!! Very sinister, indeed.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 28, 2020 9:14 AM
Reply to  Reg

Dear me, Reg-Leonardo offers a sensible position, and you reply with gibberish. Tsk, tsk.

Dhaem
Dhaem
Apr 26, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  Leonardo

Bravo! 100%!

Bill Grates
Bill Grates
Apr 26, 2020 11:56 PM
Reply to  Leonardo

Sir , This is all very well and understandably disturbing for you in Italy . Unfortunately it doesn’t take into account the policy add-ons that are imperceptibly taking shape across the whole range of human life . The deliberate fear peddling by govts and advisors in order to implement strategic politic goals cannot be ignored or explained away as the acts of caring officials merely taking extreme measures out of caution . There is an undeniable agenda to vaccinate and surveil the worlds people and to engineer state control of liberty , and the functioning of economic activity . That seemingly excess proportions of fatalities have occurred in one or two regions is regrettable ,but the broader picture is one of statistical manipulation and obfuscation on a gargantuan and intentional scale . The main sadness for me is that trying to bring this to people’s attention is an almost impossible… Read more »

Leonardo
Leonardo
Apr 27, 2020 9:09 AM
Reply to  Bill Grates

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. This is the kind of debate that should be encouraged. On topic: it’s not true that I’m not taking into account the problem you talk about. I actually mentioned it in my previous post. There are a ton of unscroupolus politicians and members of the economic and technocratic elite that are thinking of exploiting this pandemic to advance their own neo-liberal agenda. But on the other hand there are also some smart politicans that are trying to re-orient themselves, maybe just in order to survive (I’m thinking about some things Macron said lately and that you would have never expected from a neo-liberal appartchik like him…). What I don’t believe is that these attempts have been organized since the very start. In my opinion that’s giving too much credit to these elites. Most of them have stumbled blindly into this crysis and have been improvising… Read more »

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 10:42 AM
Reply to  Leonardo

It’s not being unrealistic to think this was all organised. Please try to avoid such calumnies.

Leonardo
Leonardo
Apr 27, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  JohnB

No calumny at all. The burden of proof is on the person who makes the statement. Not on me. Where you appear to see a carefully built plan I see only self-absorbed elites that stumbled into this epidemic totally unprepared, even though scientist had been warning of such a possibility for at least two decades. Most of them reacted too late, letting the epidemic expand because they knew how hard shutdown measure would be for the economy. I see ruling elites that botched the response and only now are trying to take advantage of the situation we are in. Don’t get me wrong. Most of the ruling class in the western countries doesn’t give a damn about individual citizens. But they realized that an event of this size has the potential to collapse states and societies, and that’s why they tried to prevent a full, large scale simultaneous diffusion of… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 28, 2020 9:16 AM
Reply to  JohnB

It certainly ain’t realistic. It’s the ‘all’ that is nonsense. Various elements of the reaction have indeed been long planned, but the whole thing? Unrealistic.

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Apr 26, 2020 5:51 PM
Reply to  Leonardo

Unfortunately, it’s not merely a question of Consortium disagreeing with us; it’s also a matter of them censoring our comments–comments that dissent, however politely, from the official narrative. Disagreement is OK. Censorship is not.

Reg
Reg
Apr 26, 2020 1:38 PM

Lincoln goes back to watch the hospital ship USNS Nothingburger. Episode contains a bit of “wild conspiracy theory” from a passerby and is topped off with another performance by the Clapping Seals.

Hank
Hank
Apr 26, 2020 1:37 PM

Here is the statement from WHO, Immunity passports” in the context of COVID-19 Scientific Brief 24 April 2020 WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response.1 Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection. The measurement of antibodies specific to COVID-19 The development of immunity to a pathogen through natural infection is a multi-step process that typically takes place over 1-2 weeks. The body responds to a viral infection immediately with a non-specific innate response in which macrophages, neutrophils,… Read more »

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 10:45 AM
Reply to  Hank

Hope you’re not expecting honesty, clarity, or a concern for people, from the WHO, Hank ?

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 28, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  Hank

This Fort Detrick virus is very cunning, with more and more nassty effects, like coagulopathies caused when the virus invades vascular epithelia, prompting an over-reaction of secretion of Von Willebrand’s Factor, being identified. [Please can you link to where these things have been identified/by whom. Thanks -Ed] Immunity after infection seems doubtful, and long-term sequelae may be bad in some people. As an economy wrecker, neo-feudal fascism facilitator and casus belli for war on China it’s a winner.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Apr 28, 2020 12:34 PM

Just a polite reminder to please cite unusual claims made about symptoms of Covid-19 (which I assume you mean by Fort Derrick virus?), and I’ll remove the flag on your post. Many thanks. Admin2

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 29, 2020 10:22 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

‘Clinical Observations of low molecular weight heparin in relieving inflammation in CoVid 19 patients. A retrospective cohort study. By Chen Shi et al. Published April 1, 2020 in medrxiv.org. Page eight for the Von Willebrands Factor role.

Hank
Hank
Apr 26, 2020 1:31 PM

Test

Hank
Hank
Apr 26, 2020 2:00 PM
Reply to  Hank

how do i delete this?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Apr 26, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  Hank

You can’t.

Its inside the interweb ad infinitum

Hank
Hank
Apr 26, 2020 2:06 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Make me feel like Neo.

and no log in/out?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 26, 2020 2:48 PM
Reply to  Hank

Delete cookies

Reg
Reg
Apr 26, 2020 6:02 PM
Reply to  Hank

The guy below is the girl in the red dress

MrK
MrK
Apr 26, 2020 12:59 PM

“Wild conspiracy theories are infecting the internet.” Translation: they cannot stomach opposition or anyone who sees through their lies. Sars-Cov-2 is just another flu. Yet trillions of dollars of economic damage have been done, to do what no one has done before, which is stop a flu epidemic with a worldwide lockdown of society. And not even to stop the flu epidemic, but to slow it down, so emergency rooms wouldn’t be overwhelmed all at once… because you can’t stop the flu. It’s airborne. And spreads especially efficiently indoors, where the air is stale and there is no wind to carry it away or sunlight to irradiate it. And yet it is the shutdown and the hysteria created around this virus, that is shutting down hospitals and has emergency rooms nationwide waiting for a wave of mass death that never comes. What a complete and deadly misallocation of resources. So… Read more »

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 5:18 PM
Reply to  MrK

So will Bill Gates, KBE and Anthony Fauci be held responsible for the economic destruction they have created? there the front faces yer they have some to the blame as such but they have more money than certain governments, there is another force much more hidden not talking deep state as thats a Cambridge analytic creation .
even discussing the Wild part in conspiracy and theories in how deep it goes it is beyond the scope of some on this site and many others comfort field.

but hey i sound mad

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 26, 2020 10:30 PM
Reply to  ame

Nobody will be held responsible by those who are co-responsible.
People are going to have to understand where their very first laws came from: Themselves.
If WE do nothing, then nothing will change.

Joerg
Joerg
Apr 26, 2020 12:58 PM

Yes. THEY (MSM & government, WHO, UN) are the liars! But it’s sometimes hard to put the finger on it. But then I read this wonderful German-language article “Von der fehlenden wissenschaftlichen Begründung der Corona-Maßnahmen” – https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Von-der-fehlenden-wissenschaftlichen-Begruendung-der-Corona-Massnahmen-4709563.html?seite=all . And the facts I learned there really opened my eyes for the tricks and how they are being played. I give you an example: Last week German MSM screeched something like ‘yesterday more corona-deaths than in all the weeks and months before!’ And charts with death-numbers indeed showed the column of that day being higher than the columns of any other day before. And MSM last week howled and hollered that this disastrous top of this wave of death was only in approach -and yet not here! But by this mentioned article I understood how that trick was being played. 1) The deaths-number they showed last week were not from that day.… Read more »

Joerg
Joerg
Apr 26, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Correction,sorry: “from the day of March 9th – more than one and half a months ago!”

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Apr 26, 2020 6:02 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Jörg, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Jens Spahn basically admit that the government has overreacted to the Corona plandemic?

Joerg
Joerg
Apr 26, 2020 6:44 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

I didn’t hear of that – but it would really surprise me. Spahn is a Big Pharma lobyist through and through. And thus a vaxxination-pusher. His boss, Merkel, just scolded people, who demand an exit from this shut down. And Merkel then shaped the expression (in German of course) “Exit-discussion-orgies”

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 26, 2020 12:26 PM

HuffPost UK:

More than 200,000 people have now died worldwide after contracting coronavirus

You may as well say that more than 200,000 people have now died worldwide after having been born. In fact, it makes more sense. They don’t need to have contracted the virus to die. But they do need to have been born to die.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 12:31 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yup. Nothing about this alleged pandemic makes the least sense and I absolutely adore how Dorset Eye exposes this in their (un)official coronavirus guidelines. They’re so hilarious.
https://dorseteye.com/the-un-official-coronavirus-guidelines/

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 26, 2020 5:53 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Excellent “parody” there – at least it’s a parody at the moment!

I would add this: “64 milion people died in the UK this morning and now there’s nobody left except you and me. And 64 milion will also die tomorrow.”

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Apr 26, 2020 6:04 PM
Reply to  George Mc

About a quarter of million people each year die of influenza worldwide!

jay
jay
Apr 26, 2020 12:22 PM

How many people died because their organ transplants were cancelled?
And of course, those deaths would have likely been covidised….

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If the UN is squealing about “conspiracy theories”, then this is a fantastic sign of the push back…
As Chomsky said “I am not a conspiracy theorist, I am a conspiracy ANALYST”.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 1:09 PM
Reply to  jay

Chomsky didn’t say that, it was Gore Vidal. Chomsky hasn’t a clue about 9/11, not a clue how to analyse that event. His ludicrous start and end point is:

“If the Bush administration had been responsible, they would have chosen Iraqi terrorists not Saudis.”

Seemingly, despite being a longtime critic of US foreign policy, a fundamental characteristic of power eludes him: power doesn’t have to be logical because power doesn’t have to justify itself. He also cannot take onboard that his argument is speculative not evidence-based. It simply beggars belief that his thinking is so utterly wrong from every possible angle.

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Apr 26, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

https://ahtribune.com/world/asia-pacific/australia/4108-covid-19-pandemic.html

BTW – there is NO evidence that infection with CV19 does NOT confer immunity. It is just that no-one has done trials or tests that show this immunity to further infections exists. The reason that the WHO released this supposed technical and authoritative opinion appears to be so that the uprising and increasingly enraged masses will be placated, and will not go looking to get infected so they can escape from their Zoo cages. In Australia we are now in one big zoo, with the chance of getting oneself infected reduced to near zero.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 2:18 PM

David, I don’t believe in COVID-19 at all because I see all the hallmarks of a psyop with no evidence of COVID-19. It is perfectly possible for them to fudge the figures so that all deaths and illness ascribed to COVID-19 are, in fact, from causes that have nothing to do with the nominated sickness and we have the glaring anomaly of every single alleged patient they show us not showing convincing signs of being sick.

I think they’ll let us out of the cage soon, David. It shouldn’t be too much longer I don’t think.

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Apr 26, 2020 2:34 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I hope you’re right, but I fear not, because they’ve come this far, and some are hell bent. It won’t be difficult to find a new outbreak to put us back in our cages, and get us to install the App…while the economy crashes out. Why are they doing this, going against every tenet of their market/freedom policies of decades, on the basis of a largely confected threat? FWIW I don’t believe the Ruby Princess passengers were let off by mistake, to infect all states of Australia. Without that exponential spike in cases they could never have got people to concede to the lock-down, which has prevented us from getting infected and now which we enforce ourselves through fear!

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:28 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Could you list all those things, if any, that you believe are NOT ‘psyops’.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 11:15 AM

The most common phenomena that others think are hoaxes but I accept the evidence for: the moon landings and man-made climate change – although in the case of AGW there is definitely controlled opposition involved. Richard, what you need to understand is that I’m not a paranoid, disbeliever-of-everything-from-authority type person. I only woke up to psyops when I was 53. Prior to that I didn’t have a clue. Sure I remember my father saying whenever there was a coup in South America or the like, “It was the CIA,” as if, “Of course, it was the CIA and you’d have to be a moron to think otherwise,” but I didn’t really think about it and even though I probably tended to believe him I always wondered how he knew as he only seemed to read the local paper … and it definitely wasn’t splashed about there. It was only when… Read more »

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 28, 2020 9:35 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

9/11, the Chinese ‘suppression’ of information re CoVid19, the JFK, RFK and MLK cover-ups, etc, are obvious cases where Establishment lies are accompanied by reality and information manipulation. If you want to call them ‘psy-ops’ well and good, but mostly it’ s just liars lying to cover their tracks. The MSM presstitutes could organised a piss-up in a brewery, but know when to baa like sheep in unison. I really think that saying the death-tolls in, say, Italy, are ‘psy-ops’ is ludicrous and an insult to the dead and bereaved.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 28, 2020 2:17 PM

Richard, Can you quote mortality figures in Italy for the periods in past years corresponding to the period of COVID-19 this year? Do you think it’s possible that the difference in mortality figures is not statistically significant and the “death tolls” in Italy are no different from normal, it is just that cause of death is being fraudulently ascribed to COVID-19?

Also, you must bear in mind that the power elite exploit the taboos around death to silence us from questioning. If you wish to be an effective critic of the powers that be you need to give up feelings of reverence around death – they will just get in your way. If you wish to maintain reverence that’s fine but it’s a severe impediment to effective analysis.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 2:21 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Chomsky should know well the maxim, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b***s**t.” His Saudi/Iraqi comment glares that, as does his comment to Schotz (“History Will Not Absolve Us”) that he has “no opinion” about any conspiracy regarding JFK. That comment is completely telling, to his fundamental disctedit.

As in, “Case Closed”. Lol

BS! He’s a tenured MIT professor of that. A “semiotician” AND self-taught. MIT has a glaring reputation as a primary spook factory and “known asset”.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 26, 2020 3:02 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Listening to Chomsky demean – (with fatuous irrational gusto) – all those who are seriously investigating 9/11, gives the impression of Glen Beck on acid. Really too bizarre to believe.

ex-milosevic
ex-milosevic
Apr 26, 2020 8:37 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 10:56 AM
Reply to  ex-milosevic

He looks quite like Bill Gates in that photo.

Abe
Abe
Apr 26, 2020 3:51 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Look at Corbett Report ..meet Noam Chomsky

Gall
Gall
Apr 27, 2020 1:36 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The USG ended up playing the hand that was dealt them by the Israelis and the Neocons since good patsies are hard to find. Besides all the racist morons needed was a few “towel heads” to prove that Ahab Terrism was a threat even though it had been eclipsed by Jewish Terrorists for years according to the FBI’s own stats:

http://www.loonwatch.com/files/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

As far as I’m concerned Chomsky’s turned into a chump.

jay
jay
Apr 26, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  jay

Okay, I got the quote attribution wrong.
I just thought it was quite a funny quote, even if I knew that Chomsky was and is somewhat of a gatekeeper.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 27, 2020 11:20 AM
Reply to  jay

A perfectly reasonable mistake to make, jay, but in the case of Chomsky I absolutely had to correct it. He IS, in fact, a conspiracy theorist! He believes the conspiracy theory of 19 terrorists armed with boxcutters hijacking four places yada yada!

This is a brilliant satire by pioneering 9/11 researcher, Gerard Holmgren:
Debunking Conspiracy Theorists, Paranoid fantasies about 9-11 detract from real issues
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/gerard-holmgren.html

Novicurious
Novicurious
Apr 26, 2020 12:00 PM

I’ve been wondering about why the so-called climate crisis and all the associated protests and relentless daily propaganda and shaming of people who questioned the official narrative (also labelled as conspiracy theorists and climate deniers – a patently ridiculous term) has seemingly dropped right down the current agenda. Given the many parallels between that “crisis” and the coronavirus “crisis”, one might be forgiven for thinking that the former was a convenient precursor for the latter in terms of testing out how far the global population can be brainwashed into unquestioningly believing dodgy scientific, adopting the required mantra, and modifying their behaviour accordingly, even if it comes at their own and society’s expense. Of course, targeting and getting on board the youth and young adults has been paramount in both psychological programmes, not too difficult given the lack of critical thinking that’s encouraged in education these days.

jay
jay
Apr 26, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Novicurious

Is this hoax not an admission that Greta et al have failed?

Novicurious
Novicurious
Apr 26, 2020 1:24 PM
Reply to  jay

I suspect the people pulling the strings wrt the climate crisis are the same bunch standing to make huge profits from the CV crisis (gates et al), so no, I don’t think they’ve failed, just moved on to the next step. Or maybe I’m just a conspiracy theorist.

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
Apr 26, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  Novicurious

I agree. The previous divisive topics and false paradigms we’ve seen (be it climate change, immigration, gun control, the extreme polarization of politics) have all served their purpose. They’ve atomized the way people identify and prevented connections, normalizing the thought that ‘Well, I may agree with you on 7/8 points but, since you disagree with me on #8, you are morally reprehensible and I want nothing to do with you.’ Organic communities are built on compromise– something we have unlearned with critical thinking. The previous vehicles of delivery have been designed to alienate and make those engaging in the alienation feel morally superior while they do so (a spoon full of sugar, if you will). We don’t need that anymore. It’s gotten to the point where people are willing to morally condemn you for simply being ill. Thoughts and opinions are no longer the primary identifier of the ‘enemy’.

Thom
Thom
Apr 26, 2020 2:23 PM
Reply to  Novicurious

Gates doesn’t need to make ‘huge profits’ when he is richer than almost anyone else in the world and has voluntarily given away many billions.
And how would Gates get the Chinese and Iranians to fall into line?
No, Gates is mostly likely being set up as a fall-guy for another CIA-Saudi plot, hence the relentless disinformatoin.

Novicurious
Novicurious
Apr 26, 2020 3:23 PM
Reply to  Thom

you don’t need to dig very deep to get a better flavour of this “philanthropist”. And I don’t believe that anyone gets to be that rich and powerful by having a big heart

Russ
Russ
Apr 26, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Thom

Why does it look like my comment was censored, and why did I have trouble posting it in the first place?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 4:50 PM
Reply to  Thom

No he doesn’t need any more money. He’s now on a power trip.

I forgot who said it, but it seems likely: when people get too rich they go insane.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Apr 26, 2020 5:00 PM
Reply to  Novicurious

Re: targeting and getting on board the youth and young adults has been paramount in both psychological programmes

I posted the following link to a previous article, but I think it’s worth repeating.

Terrorize the Children – Pachauri’s Strategy – Splattergate
Uploaded: 3 Oct 2010
By: Climategate2009
A series of outtakes from various Climate change propaganda videos is contrasted with a candid interview with IPCC/TERI Chairman Rajendra Pachauri in which he outlines the strategy of terrorizing Children.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McHjZ4tfdLw&w=560&h=315%5D

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:34 AM

Alerting children to the facts is better than murdering them by opposing action to avert a climate destabilisation Holocaust-to non-psychopaths at least.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:31 AM
Reply to  Novicurious

It’s ‘climate change denialist’, or ‘climate destabilisation denialist’ or ‘ climate science’ denialist, because that is what it is. No science, evidence or rationality, just straight, ideological, psychopathological reflex denial. A truly destructive cult. And the anti-intellectuals of this death-cult are so preposterously arrogant with it.

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 11:54 AM

Nonsense. People have different opinions, however much that grates.

https://realclimatescience.com/

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 29, 2020 10:25 AM
Reply to  JohnB

‘Spammed’ again! You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts or your own science.

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 11:49 AM

The Monkey Business Illusion

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Apr 26, 2020 11:46 AM

Absolute cobblers, that Consortium reporting the UN chiefs statement, from a week ago btw, marks them as having ‘gone over to the darkside’ ! They also report that the UN is calling for suspension of all sanctions – almost all imposed by the US gloval robber exceptionalism National Interests. Does that merit that they have returned from the ‘darkside’? Consortium News is running a lot of Covid pieces at the moment picking one at random, to attack CN, is therefore worthy of attention. CN is also a big focal point of justice for Assange. CN still functions under Robert Parrys investigative journalism ethic and revealing government conspiracies. It is a fine site fot these readers who have never cone across it. ——— As the attacks on real investigative journalists continues by murder or arrest or misuse of judicial charges it surely behoves all real ‘indy’ sites to put their money… Read more »

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Apr 26, 2020 2:14 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I agree, and think this posting by CN is “taken out of context”. Guterres recently had the support of many in his call for an end to wars and sanctions because of the CV19 crisis, despite his obvious alignment with those responsible for those wars and sanctions in Syria and Iraq.
Today watched a discussion with three eminent and thoughtful commentators with open minds on various aspects of this crisis and cyber war, led by Joe Lauria:
https://consortiumnews.com/2020/04/24/watch-cn-live-the-pandemic-and-geopolitics/

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 26, 2020 2:39 PM

David if Consortium News has been taken out of context, why not put it back in context to explain to the rest of us how the author of the article has dishonestly misrepresented the position of CN?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 26, 2020 11:19 AM

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because you had to queue to shop, only to find empty shelves and have to buy what you could rather than what you wanted?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because you had no liberty?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because the mass media was just propaganda?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because its justice system was fixed?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because the state directed the economy?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because you did not have the right to assembly and protest?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because it was a police state?

Remember when we were told that communism was horrible because the individual did not matter, only the collective?

Scotty
Scotty
Apr 26, 2020 11:41 AM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

It’s called “Projection” – to accuse others of that which you do yourself.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 26, 2020 11:50 AM
Reply to  Scotty

When listening to the elites it is always necessary to bear in mind this defence mechanism in order to accurately interpret what they are saying.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 26, 2020 3:07 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Steve – I do indeed remember – very nice summation. It’s almost like watching a Monty Python sketch when one of our U.S. officials uses MSM to publickly accuse one of our “official enemies” of “narco-trafficking.” Projection on steriods!

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 4:19 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Venezuela drug dealers! LOL
some siad they would of never invaded Afghanistan iof they had cabbage fields

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 26, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  ame

The Taleban’s anti-drug campaign was the most effective in history.

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 11:54 AM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

was also told and heard them say vote for JC commie socialist he have you quing in streets
ow dear now look at it

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Apr 26, 2020 12:08 PM
Reply to  ame

And we were told that Jeremy’s manifesto’s public spending commitments were completely unaffordable.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 1:15 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Excellent!

Peter Fisher
Peter Fisher
Apr 26, 2020 11:04 AM

Consortium News has gone to the dogs. I used to give money to it when Parry was alive. Now it is just drivel like the Grun.

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 11:02 AM

conspiracy
[kənˈspɪrəsi]
NOUN
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
“a conspiracy to destroy the government”
synonyms:
plot · scheme · stratagem · plan · machination · cabal · intrigue · palace intrigue · deception · ploy · trick · ruse · dodge · subterfuge · sharp practice · frame-up · fit-up · racket · put-up job · complot · covin
the action of plotting or conspiring.
“they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice”
synonyms:
plotting · collusion · intrigue · connivance · machination · collaboration · treason

NowhereOH
NowhereOH
Apr 26, 2020 2:03 PM
Reply to  ame

Conspiracies happen every day. They’re called ‘board meetings’.

Jaecar
Jaecar
Apr 26, 2020 10:33 AM

I used to read consortium news and the intercept. Bit have down in quality in recent years IMO.

Enjoying the articles I read here

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  Jaecar

Whatever they start out as, controlled opposition takes them over if they didn’t start them in the first place. It is astounding what truth the powers that be will “sacrifice” in order to control the opposition … although probably when it comes down to it, not so astounding. If you can control both sides, yours and the opposition’s, how can you possibly lose? And they know that only a small percentage of the population are even looking at the opposition view point, in any case. It is so easy to control the opposition by pushing out judicious amounts of truth. So damn easy. And the thing is the sides are not right and left, no, no, no. At the top, they’re all in it together. The sides are us and them, the power elite and the plebs.

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
Apr 26, 2020 9:46 AM

Consortium News “COVID-19: Lessons from Lombardy There are different ways of counting deaths, which leads to various theories about whether Covid-19 is really the cause of the deaths announced, or just present when people die due to other conditions. That debate has been settled in part for Lombardy by the official population figures published by the national statistics institute ISTAT: for the city of Bergamo, there were four times as many deaths in the month of March 2020 as in the same month last year” This might seem to to settle the debate. But you need to look back more than one year and more than one region. Deaths from the Flu and the like vary greatly from year to year. Even a four fold increase has been seen before. I must admit I had never herd of Consortium News. But it was an American Magazine that first got me… Read more »

beer
beer
Apr 26, 2020 12:07 PM
Reply to  Brian Sides

Deaths from the Flu and the like vary greatly from year to year. Even a four fold increase has been seen before. Also, a March-on-March comparison is unhelpful, because the annual flu peak is usually January-February. Euromomo shows an unexceptional year for excess deaths in Europe except that the peak was later and sharper than usual. And some of those excess deaths will be due to shutting down healthcare systems.

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 4:59 PM
Reply to  Brian Sides

Thanks for the reminder: I used to love MAD magazine as well. I only saw it occasionally, and probably at periods before I could understand its more subtle points.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 7:49 PM
Reply to  Mike Ellwood

MAD was a boon to our childhoods. That must have been where I first found critical faculties. That, and the b&w Twilight Zone, both contemporaries in start dates. They enriched our wonder years. As does OffG…

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 12:02 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

All our years are wonder years, John. 🙂

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 27, 2020 1:05 PM
Reply to  JohnB

Yea, verily, sayeth Qoholeth, by way of slyest syntax: “As does…”

Bas
Bas
Apr 26, 2020 9:45 AM

One of the blessings living the democratic way is voting power for every one. Included the mental weak feeble minded. On a list of 10, starting by zero, climbing the IQ ladder, the majority winning explain it all. Leaving real brainy humans bewildered, and looking around for a escape. Power for them is called dictatorship. The owners of IQ no 6 are born leaders, always looking downwards, never up, nature arranged. You find them prominent in politics, religion, and unions. Ruling this planet from day one. Before, the planet name was paradise. No 6 level Gates use his money to get back to that state. Many tried and failed before, for the same reason. Their base is power by money or guns, not brains.

Thom
Thom
Apr 26, 2020 9:20 AM

And just when you thought the whole thing couldn’t look more like a CIA plot, Dominic Cummings turns up on the UK government’s ‘scientific’ advisory group. Desperation or hubris?

ame
ame
Apr 26, 2020 5:01 PM
Reply to  Thom

Cummings was apart of the leave e.u campaigne also helped the CONservaties during the s -election in December 2019 and has connections to Peter Thiel Palantir
a strategics like bannon high intelligence front faces
hence why not much intel on ‘scientific’ advisory group as such
as a computer AI is helping run the stimulation’s

Peter Thiel Palantir has been asked by unmpe lumppa to help with CV in tracking CV
aka people

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 26, 2020 9:19 AM

How search hides real alt news sites and search terms. An example how Google, DuckDuck, StartPage manipulate search results, as Titus Frost tries to search for his own site Last American Vagabond: https://youtu.be/AF5GTmWo7Bw?t=4551

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 2:33 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I grew up in an environment with connections of the close, personal kind, around the Hollywood “realm”, to Project Monarch, and refs would stand out, yet when I “Googled” the name there is almost no reference, despite it’s a well-known reality. Ludicrous. So obvious. A known reality. Almost nothing. DuckDuck has a bit more, not much.

It’s also important to know, rarely discussed, that your own feed can be manipulated and “customized” in all kinds of ways. It’s minutely interactive. That is, discreetly counter-insurgent. Certainly DARPA considered that a prime feature.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Apr 26, 2020 9:08 AM

I am wondering if word could spread to actually protest what is going on, my own idea is that at a certain tme or times throughout the day we all open our windows, turn up the volume and play the national anthem of the former Soviet Union, apart from being a very nice piece of music which it is, it also sends the message to the showers of shits in westminster and whitehall. I won’t make the news but it doesn’t have to with youtube and other platforms, maybe protest dance vids to parody the NHS nurses and drs highlighting how lockdown is killing people. On that note I see the NHS are now begging for people to use the NHS, how much longer can they all sit back and watch what is unfolding when they can blow the whistle on this if only they find the courage and have… Read more »

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Apr 26, 2020 9:18 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

Regarding consortium news, I think it is something that back fires, imaging if OG suddenly started towing the line without needing to verify or to question, Imagine that for one moment, and then ask would any reader or contributor change their minds or wonder who got at them or who paid them a huge wedge of cash to become a turncoat? Given how OG provide links in all thier articles and back up their reporting with factual evidence, how on earth would they cope if they were to turncoat, it would be obvious to high heavens they was full of shiit, I think any publication that takes it audience for suckers is going to suffer in the end.

Alpine Observer
Alpine Observer
Apr 26, 2020 11:30 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

I think that the North Korean anthem would work well, and Dear Leader could be clapped vigorously

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

It’s still the music for the anthem of Russia. The Yeltsin anthem, like everything else to do with that Quisling regime, was shite.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Apr 26, 2020 4:38 PM

You saying the actual music is shite? I think post cold war era, we could perhaps hit the state with our biggest weapon, our sense of humour and a love of Irony, the one thing they feared about Communism was we would all become one, why not be a communist for just a few moments, if only for a laugh, they want to play a fear game with thier big fuck of tv stations and propandists whores passed off as presenters,, do me a favour, we are much better than them, give them a dose of their own medicine. Perhaps we could play the Red Flag instead? Or Masters of War, what we gonna do, first vid to hit could very well go viral, especially if their is a pianist amongst us, even better if they have a Steinway but not essential, violinist’s, guitarists etc, be fair now when they… Read more »

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Apr 26, 2020 5:05 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

I’d like to play this, so long as the irony was understood. 😉

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 12:16 PM
Reply to  P R Ivy

I proposed everyone should wear a yellow vest when out shopping or exercising.

No way I’m going to blow loud music of any sort out of my windows.

I agree people should make a visible(/audible) protest though.

bob
bob
Apr 26, 2020 9:03 AM

Another gloriously sunny day here and I’m going to enjoy it
Doesn’t this only confirm what many have already concluded – as the plandemic continues they’re all coming out of the woodwork – the struggle continues ….

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:38 AM
Reply to  bob

Gloriously sunny-no high altitude con-trails, you see. Is it a bit chilly at night, still?

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Apr 26, 2020 9:03 AM

For anyone interested there is a very cogent analysis of the nature of coronavirus and its impact. David Stockman, an orthodox economist and a principal adviser to Reagan at an earlier time argues as follows. ”New York is ground zero and the epicenter. But if you look at the breakdown of that number by age and by medical condition, it’s startling. For those under 50 years of age in the state of New York, the death rate is slightly under 5 per 100,000. That isn’t a disaster. That isn’t a plague or a calamity. Five per 100,000 is half the rate of suicides per 100,000 annually among the 50 and under population. It is a small fraction of the 90 deaths per 100,000 annually that occur for all kinds of reasons: accidents and illnesses—including suicide. You would not, in the slightest, in any kind of sane world, shut down an… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 26, 2020 9:12 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

The death rate for the working population is equivalent to the risk of dying in a car accident on the way to work. The vulnerable population is the elderly, who are largely indoors anyway and not part of the working population.
Cower-in-place is therefore nonsense. It does not reduce cross-infection and may in fact increase it. The prison lockdown was, if anything, counterproductive.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Apr 26, 2020 10:20 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And since time immemorial the elderly and vulnerable have always steered clear of any risk of catching a cold or flu for the very reasons it’s now suggested they be isolated from Covid19 carriers. This whole fearmongering business over Covid19 is a clearcut example of reinventing the wheel.

Paul too
Paul too
Apr 26, 2020 11:19 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

If it wasn’t all about money we’d have diet and immune system boosting advice for those most at risk, not lies and propaganda designed to scare them into submission.

Joopy
Joopy
Apr 26, 2020 6:56 PM
Reply to  Paul too

How about doing something, anything about all the toxins we are bombarded with and consume from cradle to grave? It’s all really is a massive capitalist conspiracy to keep up ignorant, sick, poor, indebted, distracted, divided, and drugged up so they can control us and manipulate us while fleecing us so they can live in decadence and luxury. They don’t give a fuck about us except, as Parenti says, what we think, which is why they spend billions on their proganda campaigns, mind control programs, social engineering techniques, and sureviellance apparatus. Other than that we’re just mere objects to exploit, physically, financially, sexually, including children, and discarded when no longer useful or profitable. And now this Corona Coup is a massive global offensive – planned well in advance for years and decades at the secretive elite gatherings where the ruling class conspire, in Davos and Bilderberg, etc. – ushering in… Read more »

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 12:21 PM
Reply to  Joopy

Excellent, Joopy.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 2:36 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

It doesn’t seem counterproductive to those using this event to rob the world, just less bloody than war.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 28, 2020 9:40 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

But they are slobbering for war on China, nowhere more than here in Austfailia.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 26, 2020 3:11 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Cower-in-place” – love it, I’m going to reuse that line as often as possible. Thanks.

JohnB
JohnB
Apr 27, 2020 12:23 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

The previous “Run, hide, tell” I always thought of as “Run, hide, be home in time for tea”.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 26, 2020 9:13 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

That isn’t a disaster. That isn’t a plague or a calamity.

I wised up a couple of decades ago when I realised that the media are not there to give news but only to promote whatever reaction will be beneficial to the ones who own it i.e. the rich. In pre-viral apocalyptic time, it was mostly brain sucking shite to keep you asleep (punctuated by the occasional little taster like 9/11) but when you get wall to wall monomania on one event then you know you are being majorly primed for indoctrination. Unfortunately most sit wide-eyed swallowing it all.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 11:28 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Unfortunately most sit wide-eyed swallowing it all.

I know, isn’t it sad? Drives me mental … and they censure you for speaking up. Admittedly, my experience is that in casual conversation with people in public places a reasonable number are inclined to be skeptical at least.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 11:31 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

And just to add I went for a walk in some bushland in a suburban area yesterday and the area was way busier than I’ve ever seen it. So glad to see people “not staying home and keeping us safe.”

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 2:44 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The Newport Beach Pier was nearly packed yesterday. Not a mask in sight. Skates, bikes, skateboards, scooters, and a coastline of surfboards. California rocks: they must know the governor can extend the “curfew” as long as he deems, but they flouted the fears. Out on a busy boulevard I only saw one mask, as opposed to everyone wearing, last weekend. 36 total “dead” out of 3.1 million. That is persuasive.

A curious thing is how many there are protesting for the wrong reasons, but we’ll take it.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 3:06 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

The access to all the piers in the area here of five miles of coast, 3 piers, is blocked off, gates (not known as Bill or Melinda) closed for business, first time that had ever happened, other than 40 years ago when the HB Pier collapsed and was years in rebuilding. But the areas all around them were jammed with people, mostly in bathing suits. Almost like normal. I went by first at 6am to see a homeless person of real interest: JD tells me he’s seen his Intel file and it’s marked “unvalidated threat”. He’s been living at the end of the Pier for two years, his outdoors “urban camping” experience having started then, virtual house arrest. He’s one of about a half dozen homeless who are mysteriously, Kafka-ly, allowed to hang there. I saw he was still asleep in his chair, so I stood awhile nearby, forgetfully spitting… Read more »

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Apr 26, 2020 3:17 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Great to hear that John. Thanks. Locally we can as of yesterday resume taking our grandkids to the local park with a duck pond and trails and we’ll only be engaged in criminal activity if we decide to “kick a ball” with them. No “ball play” allowed. I could almost feel some of my brain cells dying as I was reading the “new” rules.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 7:33 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Wow, kids are playing soccer 60 miles north of you, but tidy, tiny games of 2 or 3!

That reminds me of what Stephen King said of seeing Titannic while he was in hospital. “I wept. I knew my IQ had been damaged.”

My brain cells have been doing that for a month, with every building having explicit rules about breathing etc. and more stunting.

It’s like for 6 years olds “Plays well with others.” I’m surprised we don’t get gold stars pinned to our foreheads for good compliance.

Watch out, that may be more sickening than virus.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Apr 26, 2020 7:55 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Many swallow, but many more are hedging their bets: playing dumb, or playing possum.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 26, 2020 9:53 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Obviously the way to go now is contact tracing, mandatory mask wearing outside the home, strict hygiene, testing and protecting vulnerable populations. Plus allowing effective medications, like chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zince, or ivermectin or whatever, to be used in the earliest stages, to prevent disease progression to the deadly stages of the disease.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 27, 2020 8:40 AM

Five downers for ‘let-er-rip’ and fuck anybody who gets harmed. How very charming.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Apr 27, 2020 9:01 AM

People are increasingly aware of the apparent disproportionality behind responses such as yours. Maybe you should explain why covid19 requires these measures when flu does not, with reference to the actual epidemiology as defined by WHO, CDC etc, and avoiding speculative studies on small patient samples.

Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc
Apr 28, 2020 9:42 AM

People where masks EVERY ‘flu season in East Asia. It’s called ‘concern for others’, as well as self-protection. What in the name of compassionless arrogance is wrong with that gesture?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 26, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

It’s all propaganda whatever it is. There is zero evidence of COVID-19 period. If you have any please let me know what it is. Anyone who is put forward as an alleged sufferer in the media does not look as if they have any symptoms and/or their story is undermined by serious anomalies.