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WATCH: Perspectives on the Pandemic #9 The “Undercover nurse” gives her first hand account of neglect, mismanagement and possible corruption in the treatment of “Covid patients” at Elmhurst Hospital

Erin Marie Olszewski is a Nurse-turned-investigative journalist, who has spent the last few months on the frontlines of the coronavirus pandemic, on the inside in two radically different settings. Two hospitals. One private, the other public. One in Florida, the other in New York.

And not just any New York public hospital, but the “epicenter of the epicenter” itself, the infamous Elmhurst in Donald Trump’s Queens. As a result of these diametrically opposed experiences, she has the ultimate “perspective on the pandemic”. She has been where there have been the most deaths attributed to Covid-19 and where there have been the least.

Her story perfectly aligns with that of other doctors and nurses who have come forward or posted to social media, and confirms some of the worst aspects of the research OffGuardian (and other alt-media outlets) have been doing. Including the over-use of ventilators in such a way that causes avoidable deaths, the forced use of DNRs, financial incentives for Covid diagnoses and in general a top-down, non-scientific approach which spread fear and made the situation incalculably worse.

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Tom
Tom
Jul 3, 2020 1:59 PM

So lawyer Jared Beck makes some good points regarding this nurse’s story in a conversation with Jason Goodman that can be found here (in case it gets deleted and moved to another platform, the video is entitled “Florida Civil Rights Champion Louis Leo Takes on County Mask Mandate with Special Guest Jared Beck”).

The conversation about nurse Erin of Elmhurst starts at about 24:00 in the above video. Jared discusses the possibility that her story is counter-propaganda. Pretty compelling stuff, I think. I’m feeling anxious because I forwarded this Journeyman pictures video to my entire family — is the nurse Erin story actually a CIA production at Elmhurst Studios?!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2020 8:20 PM

This is a follow-up interview with Del Bigtree on The Highwire.

Covid Nurse Exposes NY Hospital
12 Jun 2020

Registered nurse, Erin Olszewski, spent a month at the epicenter of the epicenter, Elmhurst Hospital in NY. After witnessing the same malpractice matching testimonies of other outspoken nurses in the U.S., she decided to wear a hidden camera to prove to the world there is a bigger threat than Coronavirus taking place in this hospital. Del sat down with Erin for an emotional interview on The HighWire. (To watch the entire exposé from Journeyman Pictures, click . . .)

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 12, 2020 9:16 AM
Reply to  Paulo

This seems to come from an outdated report since the crux of its argument is that it can’t (in Sep 2019) identify credible photographs of Olszewski and thinks the organizations linked to her are fake. Since she’s published an hour long video news report, it’s clear that she is real.
 
http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/09/highly-organized-controlled-opposition-in-florida-deceives-and-betrays-anti-vax-advocacy-groups/
 
Olszewski set up a group in 2019 to try to block Florida state compiling a database of vaccinated /unvaccinated children, which seems to be true. She also founded Nurses for Vaccine Safety Alliance in October 2018
 
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_fl/N18000011610
 
The motive seems to be clear: in local Florida news interviews she says her son was injured by MMR six years ago and has only started speaking in the past year.
 
It’s always worth checking but the rest of the Reddit link is simply a resume, with a typically gushing cover letter, addressed to a company that she doesn’t own nor helped to set up, that may be involved in multilevel marketing of skin care products — which not unusual in cosmetics. There doesn’t seem to be any question surrounding her resume as a military nurse and now veteran, who clearly would have been looking for employment opportunities. She entered the military at 17 and exited following injury in 2012.
 
She says in her Elmhurst news report that she is a contract nurse. The subject of her report is not directly related to her MMR concerns since her focus, documented by in-hospital covert recording, is the misdiagnosis of patients and subsequent treatment of non-Covid patients with a Covid treatment procedure that kills the patient.
 
 

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 12, 2020 9:33 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

She has a book coming out based on the video news report: The Undercover Epicenter Nurse – July 6, 2020  

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 12, 2020 7:20 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Quite the project to make fake smartphone footage of an ICU, complete with vents, computerized health markers, digital tablet test charts, loads of PPE, and teams of nurses/doctors.
 
I will say the computerized health markers and digital data is certainly a hoax – but not hers – Microsoft.
 
I will also agree the crying at the end of the footage seemed contrived. We should always avoid using our perception of their emotion (a big mistake in criminal investigations), because there is no one-size-fits-all emotional reaction to any particular situation.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 12, 2020 7:32 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Also, she is hot.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 13, 2020 11:01 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

WTF on all these neg hits. Sorry I’m not taking a bunch of soy and estrogen and find a brave woman who looks good attractive. I know a bunch of dudes don’t want to be dudes anymore, but I actually enjoy beautiful women.
 
 

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 12, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Disclaimer: That first paragraph was sarcasm.

Ruth
Ruth
Jun 17, 2020 1:53 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Please READ the article linked to above. I’ll link to it again: http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/09/highly-organized-controlled-opposition-in-florida-deceives-and-betrays-anti-vax-advocacy-groups/
The author explains why he considers Ms. Olszewski to be a fake anti-vaccination activist.She was in a special forces (Is this the right term?) unit in the military; it would have been easy to recruit her.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 12, 2020 6:04 AM

Black and Latino people make up the bulk of Covid Extinctions at the Elmhurst Nightmare hospital, nurse Erin reveals.
 
Who else is targeting ethnic minorities? Dr WHO, that’s who. Time magazine: Melinda Gates Lays Out Her Biggest Concern for the Next Phase of the COVID-19 Pandemic https://time.com/5847483/melinda-gates-covid-19/

Who needs it after health care workers? “In the U.S., that would be black people next, quite honestly, and many other people of color. They are having disproportionate effects from COVID-19. From there, people with underlying health conditions, and then people who are older. Those are the ones who all need it first. We also need to think about essential workers who are keeping our grocery stores open for us so we can buy food, or who are making sure that food moves through the warehouses.”

 Young Pharaoh tells Melinda Gates what he thinks of black people going first: https://youtu.be/d2L8BxZYsIc?t=6303
(Warning: Devastating commentary but sharp language if you have delicate ears)

Kalen
Kalen
Jun 12, 2020 4:27 AM

MoA watch.

Rebellion against MoA COVID nonsense continues. Today about long repudiated phony efficacy of face masks in reducing viral infections MoA peddle. Readers can’t take such crap anymore.

Wuhan is using way more masks than Japan (also due to air pollution). How did that stop the outbreak?? Not at all.

MoA has been consistently wrong with every aspect of this pandemic. Even worse, it totally failed to recognize the huge political dimension.

Posted by: poor moa | Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 14

Much better argument is massive nosocomial infections among health professionals protected the best as well among families locked down with infected using masks while small children with no masks were spared infection.

Not to mention that WHO does not recommend masks for healthy people.

Kalen
Kalen
Jun 12, 2020 4:38 AM
Reply to  Kalen

More MoA rebellion

I respect B immensely but he has been consistently wrong on covid because he followed and quoted the same people/sources he rejected as dishonest for so many years. He is basically quoting the narrative of WaPo, NYT, CNN, MSNBC, etc.
..Who does that….someone with an agenda not someone trying to manage a health crisis and learn. Sadly our host fell for the stunts of the same neocons he has fought so long.

Posted by: Alaric | Jun 12 2020 2:43 utc | 61

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 12, 2020 11:16 AM
Reply to  Kalen

Alaric is bang on the money. That’s the crux of it – these supposed anti establishment sites quoting the establishment MSM ffs as if they didn’t have an agenda. Or treating them like they were honest!
Just read your other comment on the continued demented ravings of the completely discredited WSWS, this time regards their eye popping hypocrisy on the anti lockdown vs George Floyd protests.
Like so many liberals in fact.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 12, 2020 10:28 AM
Reply to  Kalen

The World Health Organisation reversed itself of the wearing of masks for healthy people on Monday (8 June). It provided no scientific evidence for its changed recommendation.

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 12, 2020 2:31 AM

Yeah the medical system is a devotee of death.
Big insurance corporations and big pharma feeding like jackals off it.
The system had failed before the Hoax, its just the unconscious people harming and euthanizing vulnerable became more unconscious with fear.
Its very much out in the open for all to see.
Disabled people’s family’s had been told to sign DNR and Drs had been killing patients for some time.
Maybe its good the evil is exposed not hidden so we can create a new system that is human ( not corporate)

zdb
zdb
Jun 12, 2020 4:13 AM
Reply to  BDBinc

How exactly are we going to do that?

BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 12, 2020 5:08 AM
Reply to  zdb

By remembering our humanity.
By knowing who we are.
” Know thyself”
 
Thats how we do that.
Its an inner revolution.
The peace, wisdom, kindness and clarity is waiting inside each and every human being.
 
 
 
 

Jerry
Jerry
Jun 18, 2020 4:45 AM
Reply to  BDBinc

Inner revolution is exactly right. Fighting against the establishment only gives it more strength. By becoming more conscious ourselves on an individual level, we are no longer susceptible to the lies and division that render us helpless and hopeless.
 
We are becoming more aware of both our inner strength and peace and harmony while at the same time realizing that the forces we formerly thought were good for us we now know are not. We are now entering a new phase of evolution, as Eckhart Tolle calls it the new earth.

Calamity Jane
Calamity Jane
Jun 27, 2020 12:43 AM
Reply to  Jerry

Nice to meet you jerry.
Yes you are so right being aware of can transmute but resistance strengthens, something the establishment know.
Which is why we see controlled opposition, astro turf orgs and increased fake left media blogs that tell people being “woke” is believing( not knowing) what they tell them is going on in teh world ( ignoring their inner and the quest of enlightenment).
 

Love
Love
Jun 12, 2020 2:07 AM

Love

gordon
gordon
Jun 12, 2020 1:08 AM

this slaughter has been going on for over a 100 years in the alopathic butchery slaughter medicine system 
 
chris morris is a very funny ashkanazim these people are insiders
 
this may or may not be a comedy sketch
dr harold shipman killed over 500 people more than charles manson or peter sutcliffe
 
funny that

Symptomless Coma 

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 12, 2020 1:19 AM
Reply to  gordon

Good Fauci biopic vid!

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jun 12, 2020 2:02 AM
Reply to  gordon

It was funny at the beginning but particularly wrenching at the end with the beautiful child now in place for the same treatment, symbolically reminding us of how children are being victimized by these assholes running the current covid scheme for whatever reasons, plus descendants of the worst of the psychopaths through the ages.

Louis N. Proyect
Louis N. Proyect
Jun 12, 2020 12:28 AM

You really know how to pick ’em. This nurse was an activist with the Florida Freedom Alliance, an anti-vaccination group.
 
After the rally, attendees met with legislators
 
 
 
 
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Posted at 5:18 PM, Apr 23, 2019 and last updated 5:18 PM, Apr 23, 2019
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — At the Capitol Tuesday, the Florida Freedom Alliance rallied in support of vaccine freedom.
 
Supporters gathered in support of immunization freedom, informed consent, and the right to medical privacy.
 
They also opposed Florida House Bill 213 and its Senate Counterpart, Bill 354.
 
Those bills would create an immunization registry and revise immunization requirements for students.
 
“We are here in hopes that we can spread the word to the United States citizens that our government is over reaching. They are not recognizing our religious freedoms, our personal freedoms, our parental freedoms, and our medical freedoms,” said Erin Olszewski, President of Florida Freedom Alliance.
 
 

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 12, 2020 12:35 AM

Supporters gathered in support of immunization freedom, informed consent, and the right to medical privacy.
 
I’m assuming you’re against all of the above which makes it pretty obvious you are a supporter of fascism Louis- if anyone had any doubts.
 
Also you are obviously suffering from allergies and you are allergic to some rather basic facts presented in the video. Why did you not speak to any of those facts?
 
We can leave that answer to everyone’s imagination.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 12, 2020 5:40 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

stupid goyim, what makes you think that you have any right to immunization freedom, informed consent, and medical privacy?
 
everybody knows that the goyim are just cattle for the state to manage, exploit, and dispose of, as they see fit.
 

Ort
Ort
Jun 12, 2020 9:31 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

This goes back pretty far, but being “debunked” by Proyect is like being put on the Nixon White House “Enemies List”.

Reg
Reg
Jun 12, 2020 12:45 AM

What’s wrong with freedom? What’s wrong with being against mandated vaccination?

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jun 12, 2020 12:48 AM

Wow, my respect for nurse Olszewski just increased with your info Louie! Thanks. You’ve finally done something useful on one of your all too frequent visits here to OffG. Something I never would have imagined possible.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jun 12, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Thanks for that very funny response to our beloved comrade, Gary. :o)

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 12, 2020 11:07 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Indeed, Gary. Based on the video and the evidence provided by Louis (and, more recently, @Paulo) Erin comes across as a compassionate individual of conscience who is not prepared to stand by and let us all be walked over by a deep-rooted evil within the pharmaceutical industry and corruption, ignorance and laziness within the medical profession. Her critics seem to think that being an activist or someone who is prepared to ask questions automatically means that she must have nefarious motives. I say, if only there were more like her.
 

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jun 12, 2020 1:54 AM

It’s interesting how prescient this action is here dated at April 23, 2019, nearly a year ahead of the “pandemic.” Here is a professional health care nurse and supporters concerned about over-reaching by the government, a highly responsible position, but your opening statement has a sort of nasty, sneering attitude with it, at least as the expression is commonly used (which you as a journalist with Counter Punch are surely aware of) so as to insinuate something. Is this “something” in effect that my god almighty here is an activist protest type against us Authoritarians in Established Politics which we pretend to criticize while mainly carping on and on without substance? Perhaps so. Please clarify.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jun 12, 2020 10:51 AM

I think it is more important to focus on the message rather than the messenger. The evidence she has unearthed is damning and clearly points to iatrogenic murder, and this is what we should be concentrating on, surely.
 

Don
Don
Jun 12, 2020 5:36 PM

There’s a difference between being opposed to vaccine mandates and being opposed to vaccines. One can be 100% in favor of vaccines and still be 100% against vaccine mandates.
 
How is this possible? This is possible because people remember what happened when we threw out informed consent to medical treatment in the past. If you need some reminding, you might look to the Third Reich and the slippery slope that started at the supposed vaccine mandate of the Jacobson decision and led down-slope from there to Buck v Bell (forced sterilizations) and medical experiments in Hitler’s Germany. An easy slide. Funny, but people forgot all about the warnings in the Jacobson decision against the excessive police power of the state and oppressive penalties for refusing mandates.
 
What was the 1905 Jacobson decision about? It was about Henning Jacobson’s refusal to pay the $5 fine for refusing a smallpox vaccine. The court decided he had to pay the fine, but he did not have to get vaccinated.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Jun 12, 2020 12:02 AM

YOU CHECK IN, BUT YOU DON’T CHECK OUT
 
With all the nonstop coverage about “all things COVID-19” you’d think one mainstream media news outlet would cover the numerous deaths attributed to ventilators and the unusual high mortality rate occurring in New York City hospitals like Elmhurst. Of course, none of this reporting ever happens since genuine investigative journalism is no longer practiced by the corporate state-run mainstream media news.
 
Cable news as well as the NYT and WAPO are only interested in promoting the official COVID narrative: we’re all going to die if we don’t practice social distancing, wear masks, and take the Gates vaccine as soon as it comes off the big pharma production line….  They’ll never inform the public about the needless horrible deaths resulting from stupidity and greed.
 
  What’s particularly horrifying is that sloppy hospitals are infecting healthy people with COVID-19.  Another frightful situation is that city facilities are inundated with incompetent inexperienced physicians who label every hospital admission COVID-19 in order to secure a government reimbursement.  And the third, and most horrific circumstance is when a non-COVIDf-19 hyperventilating anxious patient is sedated and placed on a ventilator so that Mengele-like interns can practice intubating.
 
A thorough investigation should be done of all NYC Hospitals and especially Elmhurst to determine if thousands of people were murdered in these medical facilities. New York City is considered the COVID-19 epicenter with a extremely high fatality rate, perhaps, slaughterhouse hospitals are responsible for the horrific statistics.     
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BDBinc
BDBinc
Jun 12, 2020 2:40 AM

Yes Of course medical ” treatments” killed patients, esp in ” flu season “when they knowingly use ventilators instead of oxygen therapy and used experimental drugs.
Co morbid conditions, Illness and old age also caused deaths, none were from ” COVID19″.
You would have to have proved there was a new deadly disease with exact same symptoms as colds, bacterial infections and influenza pneumonia .They didn’t.
Fact.
There is no Covid19 that’s the name of the psyop.
Its weird how some are still pushing the propaganda .
 

Howard
Howard
Jun 12, 2020 3:18 AM

My tolerance for people driven to anxiety by fear of COVID is slowly ebbing. At first I too bought into the hype, though I don’t watch TV so I never got the mega dose of fear mongering. What I did do – rather than going into a panic – was to research the topic; and, lo and behold, it took no time at all to realize the fear was being deliberately stoked. What has prevented others from doing the same thing?
 
We’re months into this madness and people still take the MSM propaganda as gospel. There is absolutely no excuse for that. My sympathies extend only to those who, because the majority are immune to critical thought, will very likely one day be compelled to receive a dose of poison at the tip of a needle.

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 12, 2020 5:49 AM
Reply to  Howard

it’s the survival of the fittest. the people who are stupid enough to believe the state fear propaganda will volunteer to be removed from the gene pool. sucks to be them.
 
hopefully the entire hoax will collapse long before the apparatus of medical fascism finishes with the voluntary victims, and turns its attentions to those who didn’t.
 

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 12, 2020 9:45 AM
Reply to  Howard

They are dangerous
It’s this braindead mindset that actually what the TPTB crave so the vaccine won’t need to be mandatory.
The scientific monotheism has gotten it’s hooks into it’s disciples and only the science God can fix them with the dead bread of life.
Yet they would laugh and want you locked up for having a rational and investigative mindset to quell your own suspicion.

The world has a lot of very awful minded people unfortunately.

zdb
zdb
Jun 12, 2020 12:01 AM

Cameron Kyle Sydell was right huh? Surprised?

Koen
Koen
Jun 11, 2020 11:38 PM

If this nurse is right about what went on at Elmhurst hospital, we should expect:
 
1 higher fatality rate
2 shorter average stay (until death)
3 higher % of 30/40/50-year-olds among Covid deaths
4 more use of ventilators
5 more hospital-acquired infection
 
Anyone know how to get this data to check?

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 12, 2020 1:27 AM
Reply to  Koen

Maybe – remember highest rates are in nursing homes. Also, depending on number of intubators each hospital had, and lack of other whistleblowers in other hospitals.

Kalen
Kalen
Jun 12, 2020 3:12 AM
Reply to  Koen
Koen
Koen
Jun 12, 2020 3:56 AM
Reply to  Kalen

I know that site but can’t find the answers to the specific questions I am asking about the Elmhurst data

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jun 12, 2020 10:54 AM
Reply to  Koen

It could be that what she unearthed at Elmhurst was typical of what was going on elsewhere.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Jun 11, 2020 11:06 PM

Craig Murray to the rescue of the failing coronavirus narrative, unfuckingbelievably he is given credit to Prof Fergusons claim about had the lockdown been introduced earlier then it would have saved quite a few lives, which we know is nonesense from start to finish, is this the real Craig Murray? Useful opposition? All I can say he has done more than alright from this “alternative” narrative stance, didn’t need a mortage to buy a pad, that costs just a few bob shy of a whopping ONE MILLION POUNDS, then gets his begging bowl out for his defence in an up and comming libel case, where folk have allegedly thrown large sums of money in.. sorry I don’t buy it, as for his alleged friendship with Assange, perhaps he has been spying on Assange since forever.
 
His latest blog is bollocks on sticks, and he does this at a time when the WHO stated that covid19 was not asymptomatic only for them to go full on Vickey Pollard with press release that more or less said “yeah but no but, yeah, but no but” a time when Prof Ferguson had to admit that Sweden achieved similar results to the UK with no lockdown, up pops Craig Murray with his pathetic attempt to create some smoke and mirrors.
 
It cannot be a coincidence that of late (a month or so before this kicked off) his blog was censoring folk for no good reason, a good few, myself included are now here but believe me it is not sour grapes on my part, although somewhat miffed about not being able to voice my opinions on his blog, I certainly felt he was a cause for good until I read his blog just now, his court case is bollocks and will amount to nothing, i think its just smoke and mirrors and he is indeed useful opposition or a paid shill, hence being able to buy outright a very large house, something I am almost certain most bloggers could not do, when one considers it was only a few months ago he was pleading poverty and wanted folk to dip into their pockets again so he could stay in London for the Assange hearings,
 
Fuck him, the gloves are off,, he is a git or a stupid twat, it matters not, he knows what he is doing so i am leaning towards the “git” proposal.
 
 

RobG
RobG
Jun 12, 2020 12:05 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

I like Craig Murray (despite the fact that he’s banned me not once but twice from his board – but there again I get banned from fecking everywhere).
 
To understand Murray, and all the rest, you have to understand how the system works.
 
I was once an insider, of sorts, of this system. But enough of my nonsense. Let’s have some music…
 

Admin1
Admin
Admin1
Jun 12, 2020 12:07 AM
Reply to  RobG

Tell us more about your days as an insider Rob

RobG
RobG
Jun 12, 2020 1:14 AM
Reply to  Admin1

Admin1, you know that I’m not going to answer that on an open board.
 
Many people wil know me from other boards.
 
A small number of people will know me personally.
 
My love, hope and best wishes to one and all.
 
(God knows you are going to need it in the coming months)

RobG
RobG
Jun 12, 2020 1:36 AM
Reply to  Admin1

Oh, and I’ll send you a rant about it, if you want to publish it on here.
 
I have no problem with freedom of speech, and that includes the trolls. What I find funny is that when I tear the trolls apart (something that a five-year-old could do) you get banned!
 
What is that all about?!

zdb
zdb
Jun 12, 2020 12:07 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

wikispooks kinda concurs. why are you posting this here?

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 12, 2020 6:07 AM
Reply to  zdb
zdb
zdb
Jun 12, 2020 6:53 AM
Reply to  snuffleupagus

that Murray is a jerk? My question goes to my unfamiliarity with him. Please consider, I’m Amurican. Most here have no clue who ICL or Ferguson is let alone Murray.

P R Ivy
P R Ivy
Jun 12, 2020 8:12 AM
Reply to  zdb

It is not about being a jerk, being a jerk is subjective it is about an alleged intelligent person who for some reason has become anything but critical when it comes to thinking about Covid19, go read his blog and look at how he casually claims that coronavirus is much worse than the hong kong flu, that is simply a lie and if it was to be remotely true one could argue that the authorities did not move the goal posts regarding who has or had HKF or assumed folk who died from cancer also had HKF.
 
Because of recent events more and more people are coming around and up pops Murray with this bollocks, sorry to those who believe this that or the other, I simply ask the question why and how can he even justify what he has done, wether one likes him or not is not rellevant, cui bono is, and to my mind his latest “anecdotal” offering only benefits those who wish to keep the present narrative about covid19 going or saving it from being revealed for the scam it is,
 
Craig Murray has not been anyones champion or campaigned for anyones rights regarding the lockdown, he has sat back whilst people die from not going to the hospitals for treatments that could have very well saved their lives, nor has he spoken up about the injustice for those with dementia or mental health issues, he has not even questioned once the cod science being plated up to us on a daily basis, as the saying goes.. if it walks like a duck.
 

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 12, 2020 8:20 AM
Reply to  P R Ivy

had the lockdown been introduced earlier then it would have saved quite a few lives

 
Have you not noticed that the best way of pushing a narrative is to take an “oppositional” view. In this case, saying there’s a deadly virus isn’t as effective as saying that the govt could have done something earlier.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 12, 2020 11:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

My view is that Prof John Edmunds (OBE!!) on the SAGE Committee is now being employed as a useful idiot. He has appalling presentational skills and his intellect is very questionable. Yet he is now being touted as a ‘renegade’ by declaring that an earlier lock down would have saved many lives. It’s all to do with public perception. The public is effectively now being given two options to choose from: they either sympathise with the government’s position or agree with Edmunds.
 
As most of us on here would agree, there is a third option i.e. that it is the lock down that has cost lives, and will continue to do so, and has put the final nail in the coffin of what was a failing economy to start with. But that option is never broadcast widely as front page news on most of the popular MSM, and is simply ignored even when credible evidence is provided.
 
Edmund’s claims are simply strengthening the idea that lock down was the right thing to do, serving to weaken growing awareness of the Government’s failings and sustaining the idea that failure of the economy is entirely down to ‘SARS-CoV2’.
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/07/government-scientific-adviser-says-delaying-uks-coronavirus/

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Jun 11, 2020 9:55 PM

Implications in this video are very disturbing. Erin is very credible here, John Kirby again excellent as interviewer.
 
OT but relevant. Tucker Carlson: “Yes, they were definitely lying to us” that the virus is “a dangerous disease”
 



 
Tucker concludes by turning to Seattle and suggesting the BLM and whoever (CHAZ) taking over six blocks in a new occupy moment and what’s happening is under orders from the Democratic Party.
 
But IMV this “liberals run amok” type of identifying over-simplifies that scene to stooges and criminal gangs, whereas the following set of demands indicates the situation is more complex.
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/antifa-releases-list-demands-taking-6-square-block-section-seattle-setting-armed-security-watch-list-includes-reparations-ending-police-dept/
 
I no way support or encourage violent protesting. The scene includes non-violent protesters. That the violence is influenced by Democrat intentions and Big Money (and there are some indications of this) would not surprise me, but the interests of ordinary people as indicated in the list of demands complicates this interpretation.
 
Maybe we will develop this topic further. .

zdb
zdb
Jun 12, 2020 12:09 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

hearing rumors of Tucker Carlson getting defunded by advertisers. surprised?

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 11, 2020 8:55 PM

While I understand that the hospitals get paid out money for patients that pass away, they also make a lot of money from patients in ICU and all the extra tests they need to run.

But certainly there is a lot of truth to what she is saying.

No one should have ever taken any loved one to Elmhurst. It was all over the news that people were dying the most there.

It is known that hospitals in all boroughs other than Manhattan suck!

Certainly Elmhurst was pumping up their numbers when Covid patients were entering the hospital, but 20,000 people died in NYC and 110,000 have died the rest of US. It can’t be that every hospital has played the same game.

My condolences to the families of those that lost their loved one.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 11, 2020 9:12 PM
Reply to  Sabrina

I think you have to do some research and read the reports on the people who died with and the people who died from.
It’s 90% of people at least had 1 to 5 severe comorbidities who died with covid 19.
To be blunt they were already dying of something, alot of people with multiple things.

The median age was in the 80s!

So a elderly person with multiple ailments who contract a virus then get bombarded with antibiotics, steroids, and ventilators used on their already very weak body and you call that a recipe for health care?

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 11, 2020 9:31 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

I’m not understanding your point. What does comorbitiy have to do with my comments about quality of care at Elmhurst?

I thought she was talking about putting everyone on ventilators and not just 80 year olds.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 11, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  Sabrina

It was in regards to your point of all hospitals being in on it. And that in reality the figures and data speaks more than any conspiracies between TPTB

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 11, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

What I was saying is that NOT all hospitals were in on these methods.

At that time I was living next to the main boulevard that the ambulances had to take the sick to hospitals. It was beyond imagination what was happening. After 2 months I broke my lease and moved. The entire NYC area was in a war zone. And it was believed that ventilators save lives. The entire country believed it. There is no proof what those nurse is saying about Hydrochloride would have worked.

That is why over 150 drug companies and universities are working to find a vaccine.

My own mother passed away from CHF 3 years ago after being in / out of the hospital for 8 months. I saw what happened. And it was tragic.

I am heartbroken for all the families that have lost their loved ones.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 11, 2020 10:09 PM
Reply to  Sabrina

It was either a strategic operation to let these vulnerable people die en masse or extremely poor planning for the protection of the vulnerable.
It was evident early on that most of the deaths were occurring in nursing homes
It’s should have been priority to put the necessary workers there and keep people out.
But we all know by now the chaos was part of the plan
From a professional point of view how could they look at the handling of this and say they did the best they could and actually come out say we saved lives.

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 11, 2020 10:51 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

I will say it was poor planning. When you had the President saying he blocked China yet allow any and every person enter New York with out even proper questioning this would happen. Elmhurst is mainly Taxi drivers and airport staff because it’s what they do.

Many of these drivers have dire situations and live in one room with their grandparents and children….. so they were impacted too.

About elderly homes – I agree. It was horrible.

WE – NYC citizens knew as a rule that going to hospital is kids of death. I personally know someone that was 75 and fought this for 2 months at home and came close to death a few times. He went to a Brooklyn hospital once and they sent him home after 4 hours without doing anything for him. A day later he went to a Manhattan hospital and they kept him and he was on IVY and had developed all sorts of kidney and blood problems. He survived but with the help of dozens of people. I was one – all I could do is buy groceries! Such people could t even get themselves to hospitals. No car. No taxi. Only Ambulances. Clearly they had to examine and decide whether to take the sick.

It was a war zone and no one knew what to do!

I don’t think it was a conspiracy. Every hospital was a Covid hospital.

But I do agree with this nurse. Tragic. Some bad apples that she should reveal their names and they should be investigated. Every nurse and doctor that orders vent or DNR etc their info is in their system. It’s not hard to investigate as long as the families based on HIPPA law give consent.

I’m just saying it would have been difficult to set this thing up. As I’m writing this 113,000 have died. And someone is responsible – and that isn’t the Hospital.

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 11, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  Sabrina

I also want to add that NYC has serious problems when the borders open. We are not ready for international travelers. Our hospitals aren’t. The taxi drivers are not. No one is.

That is something we all need to think about.

Reg
Reg
Jun 12, 2020 12:50 AM
Reply to  Sabrina

“It was a war zone”. Yeah, that’s what the media told you to think.

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 12, 2020 3:26 AM
Reply to  Reg

Reg – I wish you experienced what I did. I lived in Brooklyn near one of the main bridges connecting Brooklyn to Queens. For 2 months I heard Ambulance sirens. I saw a few of them coming out of the street across from my building.

I’ve been living here for 25 years and had never experienced something like this. I moved on May 1st because the sirens were not stopping when no one else would move to another neighborhood that was quiet.

It was a war zone.

It’s difficult to explain.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 12, 2020 11:43 AM
Reply to  Reg

Sabrina clearly hasn’t been following Lincoln Karim’s daily on the ground witness reports! Or maybe, me being more cynical, she doesn’t realise that we follow his reports. 😀

JudyJ
JudyJ
Jun 12, 2020 12:03 PM
Reply to  Reg

Reg
 
Lincoln Karim’s latest reportage below. At 14 minutes 30 seconds he asks a medic about the situation. He says that it is quiet now but it was really busy three weeks previously. So I have also linked below to Lincoln’s video from 20 May. Very interesting comparison!
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgFIyEEt4w

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 12, 2020 2:22 AM
Reply to  Sabrina

The 113,000 dead from Covid is fiction- stop parroting that lie.
 
The problems in NYC mirror Madrid and Milan. Had nothing to do with a fancified virus. Had all to do with already unhealthy population living in deteriorating conditions and large scale shuttering of hospitals over the last decade.

Sabrina
Sabrina
Jun 12, 2020 3:28 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

Are you saying that all the other people in USA dying are fictional? Because NYC doesn’t more than a dozen a day.

The numbers must be much higher than 113k!

Reg
Reg
Jun 12, 2020 5:06 AM
Reply to  Sabrina

Are they burying thousands and thousands of corona corpses on Hart’s Island? That was a psyop, don’t you think?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 12, 2020 9:58 AM
Reply to  Reg

Probably empty boxes.
Coumo is trying his best isn’t he?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 12, 2020 9:55 AM
Reply to  Sabrina

If I was getting 39k instead of 4k per death I’d be happy to find the bodies and create the environment were that would happen and what more than a controlled ‘pandemic’
Of course the ambulance were out more as people were told to stay at home and not come near the hospital.
Death is not a new phenomen
180k people die a a day globally on average.
That’s just the average!
If you think this was spontaneous then look up event 201 and read the lockstep on the Rockefeller foundation report 2010 page 18
To not see this was inevitable in their campaign on the people.
They knew only a slight overwhelming of the healthcare system would cause it to break down

Даниела Тошева
Даниела Тошева
Jun 14, 2020 10:22 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Be serious: the breakdown was calculated…

Like reducing Costs!

Wanna’ come with me to hospital…?

Shruti
Shruti
Jun 11, 2020 8:48 PM

Erin is a real hero. Take note, this is what humanity, integrity and courage look like.

gordon
gordon
Jun 11, 2020 7:25 PM

 
the germ theory the germ hunters pasteur bamkers friend
 
virus virus is dead matter material trillion dollar scam louis whatever way you spell it what a fucking rotter murdering scum
 
 
 
Antoine Béchamp the man yes sir a nicola tesla of the tera firma
the terrain is all
 
 
a world in lockstep no hero just zio satanic sharks that want you dead or dumb medicated vaxed slave class
 
 
a world of fraud and fake fuckery
here hare here already

Johan Smith
Johan Smith
Jun 11, 2020 6:38 PM

Common denominator for the high deaths per capita numbers relative to infection rates:
Poor, underfunded, corrupt, profiteering health care systems (and a healthy dollop of unfounded paranoia on top).
 
Corona is a non-event, it’s a flu, and debatably a strong flu. But Corona isn’t the problem.
 
In the US the hospitals profit from the dead and there is no public healthcare system to speak of, the NHS has been systematically underfunded for decades now, and even more so Italy and Spain and a few others. And in all those countries the effects of lockdowns, especially on the poor and uninformed, has been extraordinarily more deadly and detrimental to health than Corona could come even close to being. Add to that sheer malpractice.
 
Look at the infection rates vs death rates of less “prosperous” countries and also countries that can be expected to have a well funded, functional health care system and have not responded in panic to the Corona viral wave (Pakistan, Saudi, Qatar, Germany, Iran, Turkey to name but a few and the easy ones all have high infection rates, but quite low death rates) and it becomes imminently clear that the differences are so extreme that it cannot be explained via demography or some genetic bias or socioeconomic preference of the virus. A vast majority of the dead are dying from poor health care (mostly ventilators, but also medication) strategy, and from the detrimental mental and physical health incurred by lockdown measures. The evidence is right there in the numbers!
 
I for one am pissed off on behalf of the people who suffer and die for this farcical and incompetent attempt at governance.
 
I will keep moving, eating healthy, and try to keep a positive mindset as I am convinced that is the best protection against Corona, and any other prospective health issues for that matter. And when I do get Corona (and I know I will) if I haven’t already had it, and if the symptoms are severe, I am more than willing to stay at home and take my chances with prospective death (I deem my chances of dying in traffic to be significantly higher) in my bed before I go to a hospital to get literally euthanised. I have also told my wife that no matter what happens, do not take my children to the hospital and sure as hell keep paranoid doctors from shoving anything down their throats or into their veins.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 6:33 PM

Earlier I linked to a video that YouTube has since deleted.. so here’s a repost with Bitchute link. Nurse Erin’s testimony supports what Jon Rappoport and Catherine Austin Fitts reported two months ago:
 
NYC deaths attributed to Covid mostly ethnic minorities. Medicare payouts favor Covid diagnosis: $39k for Covid+pneumonia+ventillator but only $4,700 without the ventilator. Ventilators are a death sentence.
 
They further allege that ethnic minorities are deliberately targeted. Catherine Austin Fitts is a former Assistant Secretary of Housing, Her sources indicate that for gentrification to proceed, poor people need to move out of desirable quarters of New York City. Rent controls need to be dismantled. Racial minorities occupy a lot of prime real estate ripe for gentrification.
 
Also targeted is the manual/low paid workforce – with current forecasts for 1.5 million deaths just from the economy. (For every 1% in unemployment you get 40,000 deaths. The Fed’s current jobless estimate suggests 1 million to 1.5 million deaths just from current unemployment.)
 
Planting season is ending in the Midwest. Back in April, people began protesting for the right to return to work. Did the crops get planted? If not, the entire country is going to see food shortages. Hope you like lab grown meat.
 
Go to @29:00 and @34:30 minutes: Creation of a False Epidemic – Part IV – The Worm Turns with Jon Rappoport
 
https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7xJxF5zdgo

bob
bob
Jun 11, 2020 7:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

great points – can I just add Rappaport is on today’s Richie Allen show so look out for the video and Erin is apparently doing a FoxNews interview sometime tonight (cancelled from yesterday)

RobG
RobG
Jun 11, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Unemployment in the USA is now knocking 45 million (and a similar story for other western economies).
 
There’s never been anything like this, ever.
 
The world you once knew has now gone forever, courtesy of the psychopaths.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  RobG

“Armed insurrection in the streets, over half of all Americans on some form of welfare or unemployment, tax collection down, and 45 million unemployed. If that’s not bullish I don’t know what is.” — comment on Seeking Alpha
 
Latest figures look manipulated — government is claiming large return to work but production numbers don’t support that. Next stop June 16th – May 2020 Retail Sales and Industrial Production.
 
25% of workforce laid off by the government’s manipulated measure. John Williams of ShadowStats’ alternative measure is 34.0%-36.5%. http://www.shadowstats.com/

theguvnor
theguvnor
Jun 11, 2020 6:17 PM

The most acceptable social distancing mask? https://imgur.com/ApBT8JV

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jun 11, 2020 6:10 PM

As usual, nothing brings out the government trolls like a whistleblower. I trust that most at OffG see the troll nonsense for what it is – just another layer in the system’s full-spectrum seamless propaganda apparatus – in this instance often posing absurdly as an “average Joe” you know, “just like you.” An “average Joe” who somehow manages to be perversely skeptical and demeaning of ANYTHING that challenges MSM propaganda narratives.

Thanks for sharing this interview. Erin offers a rare first person glimpse into the belly of the beast that is the intersection of our completely amoral manifestation of neoliberal American capitalism and the so called “provision of medical care” for the poor.

A system that doesn’t care whatsoever about whether anyone has a roof over their head, or that it’s “citizens” have to dumpster dive in order to eat a meal – certainly can’t be expected to show any greater concern for the poor when they need actual medical care.

Ort
Ort
Jun 11, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Yes, you may have seen the dreadful comments on the YouTube site. I tend to avoid them, or skim over them lightly, because they’re generally a sewer abounding in orc-talk.
 
There are a few who purport to see Erin as the “heavy” in the piece, expressing outrage at her supposedly nefarious undercover techniques, “violating patient confidentiality”, etc.
 
Perhaps they are more comfortable with the fake “whistleblowers” touted as heroes by the anti-Trump “resistance”.

lynette chaplin
lynette chaplin
Jun 11, 2020 6:08 PM

This interview has left me shattered,

Darren Hiebert
Darren Hiebert
Jun 11, 2020 6:03 PM

More excellent journalism guys! So frustrated with our controlled media and the crapola they spew. Thank-you for some truth.

RobG
RobG
Jun 11, 2020 5:54 PM

I watched this video on a blog earlier today. It runs to 70 minutes and I highly recommend it.
 
I’ve had a really bad cough this week. Those of us in western Europe will know that the weather has suddenly turned unseasonably cold. This afternoon I went up to the hotel in a nearby village. It’s the first time the hotel has been allowed to open for the best part of 3 months. I went there to get some ‘cough medicine’; ie the hotel has a tabac and it was another failed attempt by me to give-up smoking.
 
As I walked into the hotel entrance there was a hand sanitiser on a stand, with a sign saying: ‘You must wash your hands before entering this establishment’. Nope, fuck that. I walked into the bar at the front of the hotel, and another big sign said: ‘You must wear a mask in the restaurant’ (how the feck are you supposed to eat while wearing a mask?!). One of the young girls who works there, who I’ve known for years, was mopping the floor as I walked in. They always do this after the thing called ‘Lunch’. In France this happens in the middle of the day, when just about everything stops for two or three hours, and everyone sits down together for a big meal, and to chat, and to get a bit pissed. (for the record, I’ve never really done ‘Lunch’, because I operate on very different hours)
 
Anyhows, so this young woman put her mop in the bucket and came over to serve me. We looked at each other, because as I’ve said we’ve known each other for years. Even with the face mask she was wearing you could still tell what a beautiful young woman she is. I tapped on the perspex screen that separated us across the counter and tried to make a joke about it all. No response.
 
The fear in that young woman’s eyes almost brought me to tears.

Ort
Ort
Jun 11, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  RobG

Thanks for this comment. I’ve posted too many similar ones, usually about my encounters with friendly cashiers at the local markets in the shopping center near my home.
 
I’m a “class clown” sort who typically jokes with cashiers and waitstaff. I’ve had a few normal exchanges, but I’ve also had facetious comments implicitly criticizing the New Abnormal fall flat.
 
I’m not so full of myself as to think I’m incapable of being unfunny or insensitive, but I can distinguish between an ill-considered or lame jest backfiring with these flops– it’s belatedly obvious that the recipient isn’t ready, willing, or able to find the humor in the dreadful status quo.

A leaf
A leaf
Jun 12, 2020 6:41 AM
Reply to  RobG

People are turned into hardcore hypocondriacs..ocd is real and very difficult reverse. I will never forget MSM and vowed never again to wach or buy them deliberately.

Thom
Thom
Jun 11, 2020 5:50 PM

Farage’s sacking from LBC, allegedly over saying the protesters taking down statues were “like the Taliban”, is interesting in the context of the British government actually behaving like the Taliban in shutting stores and pubs, and making people stand two metres apart with face coverings. Needless to say, Farage didn’t lift a finger about the pubs closing. Controlled opposition?
There certainly seem to be several common threads running through Brexit and the coronavirus panic, as well as the the coronavirus panic and the black lives protests. And even if the authorities weren’t in on the taking down of the statues, they certainly made it easy for the protesters. Farage seems to be giving the British-American establishment cover again.

Dave
Dave
Jun 11, 2020 5:28 PM

It’s probably important to remember that New York residents inhaled three skyscrapers not twenty years ago

Jan
Jan
Jun 11, 2020 6:06 PM
Reply to  Dave

Full of asbestos!

Watt
Watt
Jun 11, 2020 6:12 PM
Reply to  Jan

Fully pulverised. Simply inhale that slow fuse.

Ort
Ort
Jun 11, 2020 9:02 PM
Reply to  Dave

Ah, memories! Christie Todd Whitman, head of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under George W. Bush at the time of the still-mysterious 9/11 attacks, rushed to declare to the public that the air around Ground Zero in New York was safe to breathe.
 
Living NYC residents were required to breathe regardless of what the charlatans in charge said, so this Big Lie didn’t change that. 
 
I suppose that the alternative would’ve been to declare a health emergency and impose a similar draconian regime requiring the wearing of masks. But at the time, the Enemy was “terrorism”, not the pestilence of a Megadeath Virus of Doom, so the top-down agenda prioritized keeping the public in a state of terror and rage against the Muslim Super-Villains Over There.
 
Besides, she eventually apologized for making those misstatements, so all’s well that ends well!

martin
martin
Jun 11, 2020 5:14 PM

Is there some underlying connection between the ‘I can’t breathe’ and the Ventilator program? I don’t have to spell it out.

Paul
Paul
Jun 11, 2020 5:29 PM
Reply to  martin

Human stain, Martin. You’d last two seconds in a public arena with your idiocy. Back to the withering DNA-sick White Race. Gotta find that perfect botulism strain that attacks those Anglos, man, those Aryans, man, those little and big Eichmann’s in the Eunuch Kingdom. Some of us are trying, man, and the botulism 4.0 formula will be commercialized soon. We’ll get there, don’t worry, so Limeys, watch out for those fish and chips, blokes. We’ll get that botulism infused in all your crap.
 

RobG
RobG
Jun 11, 2020 7:29 PM
Reply to  Paul

LSD is really not good for you.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
Jun 11, 2020 9:44 PM
Reply to  RobG

Don’t feed the trolls.

RobG
RobG
Jun 11, 2020 5:56 PM
Reply to  martin

Throw in the Extinction Rebellion rollocks and you are starting to connect the dots.

Paul
Paul
Jun 11, 2020 3:12 PM

God, the God Awful Off-the-Rocker Guardian and these “great investigative and deep research pieces.” Social media tagging, and a nurse in her selfie BS. A joke..
 
Coronavirus cases are continuing to soar across the United States as the death toll tops 112,000. COVID-19 hospitalizations are increasing in at least nine states following the reopening of businesses. Texas, North and South Carolina, California, Oregon, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah and Arizona are all seeing a surge in patients needing medical attention. Texas has seen two consecutive days of record coronavirus hospitalizations. On Tuesday, the nation’s top infectious disease doctor, Anthony Fauci, described the coronavirus as his “worst nightmare” and said the pandemic is not close to over yet. The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation has revised its projected U.S. death toll upward, predicting 145,000 deaths by early August.
 
n Brazil, a Supreme Court judge on Tuesday ordered the government of far-right President Jair Bolsonaro to immediately begin releasing updated coronavirus statistics — just days after the country stopped publishing new reported COVID-19 deaths and infections. Brazil currently has the world’s second-highest rate of coronavirus cases, nearing 740,000, and has more daily deaths than any other country in the world. Officially, over 38,000 people in Brazil have died of COVID-19, though that number is likely a significant undercount.
 
As New York City begins to partially reopen, we look at what it means for the nation’s largest public transportation system. “It’s a very stressful and dangerous situation,” says Seth Rosenberg, a subway operator, shop steward with the Transport Workers Union Local 100 and a member of a small coalition of transit workers called Local 100 Fightback. “The safety measures are not in place to protect transit workers or riders.”
 
 
The number of confirmed U.S. coronavirus cases has officially topped 2 million, the highest number in the world by far — but public health officials say the true number of infections is certain to be many times greater. Officially, the U.S. death toll is nearing 113,000, and at least 12 states are reporting an increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations.
In Arizona, which lifted its stay-at-home order on May 15, more than three-quarters of the state’s intensive care units are filled amid a spike in COVID-19 patients. Public health officials are urging new social distancing measures and warning the governor to immediately prepare field hospitals to handle a coming flood of new patients.
 
As a new study by British researchers finds population-wide mask use could help push coronavirus transmission rates down to controllable levels. Cambridge University researcher and report co-author Richard Stutt said, “Our analyses support the immediate and universal adoption of face masks by the public.”
 
A former British government adviser said Wednesday the U.K. could have halved its number of coronavirus deaths if the government had imposed its lockdown just one week earlier.
 
Coronavirus cases continue to surge in the Global South. The World Health Organization has urged Pakistan to reimpose a lockdown to curb the virus. This comes as India has reported nearly 10,000 new cases over the past 24 hours — a new daily high. Indonesia has reported record highs of new cases for the past two days. Meanwhile, in Brazil, restrictions on many cities are being lifted even as deaths continue to soar. In Brazil, the death toll is approaching 40,000. On Wednesday, the state of São Paulo registered 340 deaths — a new daily record. In Africa, the number of confirmed cases has topped 200,000.
 
FInally, the KKKTrump is in the hot tar cauldron . . . wannabe Hitler, on the run, and he will be lynched by his own hate:
 
ACLU Sues Trump Administration over U.S.-Mexico Border Shutdown
White Nationalist White House Adviser Stephen Miller Drafting Trump Speech on Race
Trump to Resume Campaign Rallies on Juneteenth in Tulsa, Site of 1921 Mass Lynching
Trump Will “Not Even Consider” Renaming U.S. Bases That Honor Confederates
Statues of Columbus and Confederates Toppled in Cities Across U.S.
Black Lives Matter Protests Held for 16th Consecutive Day
Louisville, KY Police Filed Nearly Blank Report After Killing Breonna Taylor
NASCAR to Ban Confederate Flags Following Protest by African American Driver 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Gwyn
Gwyn
Jun 11, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  Paul

There was no need to tell us in your first paragraph that what followed was going to be a joke. But thanks, anyway.

Reg
Reg
Jun 11, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Paul

Have you signed up for the vaccine trials? You’re the perfect candidate.

Basher
Basher
Jun 11, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  Paul

Lost soul. Gone for good. Paul is past hope now. One last try…. intubation

Paul
Paul
Jun 11, 2020 5:32 PM
Reply to  Basher

Man, the guy who puts Basher as his moniker is anything but one. Pussy grabber? Closet racist? They guy who would last 30 seconds in a public forum with his bile spewing out of the, well, may just one of those Anglo Mutants.

Basher
Basher
Jun 11, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Paul

Fucking moron. ‘Pussy grabber? Closet racist?’ How? Why?
 
You need to work on your grammar too
 
‘Basher’ was my nickname from around the age of 7. Nobody can remember why it started – but it certainly had nothing to do with violence…. or sexual assault (FFS!!) A few childhood friends still call me it & I used it on here, the first time I posted.
 
Again…What the fuck

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 11, 2020 5:21 PM
Reply to  Paul

For shame. Still spreading the FEAR PORN.
 
Meanwhile back in old New York, Governor Death Virus (that never met a Medicaid Program it did not want to gut) has used WAVE 1 of the MASS HYSTERIA PROPAGANDA PANDEMIC as cover for its “Grandma and Grandma Useless Eater Euthanization Campaign.”
 
https://imgflip.com/i/40bn08
 
 
Wave 2 will be a doozy.
 
 
 
 

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 6:02 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Wave 2 will be a doozy”
Coming to everywhere this December.
This one is but the introduction.
Prepare.

Jan
Jan
Jun 11, 2020 6:15 PM
Reply to  breweriana

It has to be November or they won’t screw up the election

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 6:25 PM
Reply to  Jan

November will not work, it is for December.
It will no longer matter who is elected in the US alone.
This one will be for EVERYONE.

Howard
Howard
Jun 11, 2020 5:23 PM
Reply to  Paul

It was crucially important that someone finally stood up and told the world that the entire anti-COVID-scare conspiracy theory was hatched under the sheets by KKK operatives. God bless you!

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jun 11, 2020 5:35 PM
Reply to  Paul

This women with her bravery has provided first-hand documentation of iatrogenic murder.

Paul
Paul
Jun 11, 2020 5:39 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

Ahh, I was wondering what her problem is. She is conjoined as two. This “women” for sure is/are brave. Pure rot. You want a hundred first-hand documentation of real workers in hospitals? In Brazil? In Peru? In Mexico? In China? Yep, it’s all made up according to the nurse. Racist in scrubs.

Admin1
Admin
Admin1
Jun 11, 2020 9:57 PM
Reply to  Paul

This is why you should never post drunk. You imagine you’re skipping about from thread to thread leaving people gasping at your Wildean wit, when in reality you’re just slurring and lurching and boring everyone to death. Go away and sober up.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 12, 2020 8:22 AM
Reply to  Admin1

Maybe you should give the same advice to Dungroanin?

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jun 12, 2020 11:01 AM
Reply to  Paul

Thanks for pointing out my typo. Should have been “woman” of course.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Jun 11, 2020 5:49 PM
Reply to  Paul

Read the massive amount of data and medical opinion catalogued at the Swiss site linked below and then get back to us Paul. Otherwise just go over to CounterPuff where you can join LouieP & company at Covid-Central to get your daily dose of crazy. Hey, at CounterPuff you can even get your “regime-change” propaganda ALONG WITH your Covid propaganda. Such a deal! Enjoy.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 11, 2020 8:54 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

where you can join LouieP & company
 
this is just another one of the multiple personalities.
 

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 11, 2020 9:39 PM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

He has pubic hair growing in his prefrontal cortex, processing anything coherent will discombobulate this person even further.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 5:59 PM
Reply to  Paul

“Cambridge University researcher and report co-author Richard Stutt said, “Our analyses support the immediate and universal adoption of face masks by the public.””
 
Lead author, Dr Richard Stutt, part of a team that usually models the spread of crop diseases at Cambridge’s department of plant sciences.
 
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11828045/all-wear-face-masks-coronavirus-r-rate-preventing-second-wave/
 
Even the comments there disagree.
 
They must be paying you minimum wage to write this crap, Paul.
I mean, if he knows about plant diseases, he’ll want to vaccinate us against potato blight next, won’t he?
 
The REAL fight must be against the ‘lockdown’ tyranny.

Free 723
Free 723
Jun 11, 2020 7:23 PM
Reply to  Paul

Hmm.. drinking the Corona Kool-Aid a bit much, eh? You really need to lighten up on your “sky is falling” brainwashed ranting, for not just your sake (how stressful it must be to be in such a state of cognitive dissonance to be upholding such irrational and unfounded beliefs) but for the sake of everyone else too!
 
Sad fact of life: people die, and more people die who live in places with long-term lethal air pollution. Science (and even the WHO) says that asymptomatic “test positive” folk are NOT infecting anyone, makes sense knowing that POLLUTION is the real killer being hidden by the “virus” cover story:
 
https://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2020/06/10/people-without-symptoms-are-not-spreading-virus-says-who-and-science/
 
Remember: around 70% of all claimed “virus” deaths are happening in only 10% of the global population in just six countries (five of them core NATO countries, the other, Brazil, being a core WEF country). This is a statistical impossibility if there was truly an “infectious deadly pathogen” going around.
 
Such figures make excellent sense, however, when understanding that the common factor in the specific localities (urban and some regional, such as northern Italy) of these countries where almost all the claimed “virus” deaths are taking place is the lethal air pollution . Even the WHO said in their 2006 report about diseases that air pollution in the environment causes as least 1.5 million deaths per year. There’s a long way to go to that total yet, with the fake “virus” numbers!

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 7:46 PM
Reply to  Free 723

Spot on. Governments blame the fake ‘virus’ for their own populations dying of SO2 pollution.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Jun 11, 2020 9:47 PM
Reply to  Paul

Is this how someone communicates after they’ve been castrated?

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 12, 2020 1:21 AM
Reply to  Paul

You just copied and pasted directly from CNN’s latest garbage piece which is all fear all the time and no facts all the time.
 
The increase in “cases” (bet you whatever amount you have left in your piggy bank you can’t define a “case”- but don’t worry no one else can) in those states has already been debunked- get up to speed here.
 
And Fauci, who is not an expert in anything- he is a sociopath and Big Pharma lackey- followed up his fatuous comment that you cited with “we need billions and billions of vaccines”- which if you had any thinking abilities would tell you who he works for.
 

Thom
Thom
Jun 11, 2020 3:09 PM

I wonder how governments are going to lead populations from now on? The coronavirus skeptics are unlikely ever to trust the government or insttitutions again – even many of us who were doubtful of, say, climate change didn’t quite make the leap to doubting the medical establishment. Then you have many others who have flouted the law and/or guidelines during the lockdowns, albeit mildly, and may not look at the forces of law and order with the same respect again. What about the queuing shoppers who have come to despise the supermarket?. Then on the other side, the mask-clutchers who are likely to hold out from returning to work and shopping, no matter what the official advice, their hypochondria having been brought to terror pitch.
While extremely informative, I’m not certain all the Off-Guardian commentators warning of dictatorial clampdown quite have it right. I suspect something closer to anarchy is more likely, as the economy crashes, and a large majority for one reason or another refuse to trust the government. We’re already seeing that lapse of traction with Johnson ‘allowing’ people to do things they have been already been doing for weeks.

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jun 11, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  Thom

I started off not believing a word government says (not the same as supporting every conspiracy theory going around) so it’s affirmation for me although some might argue confirmation bias.
 
As for the big institutions, it’s long looked like there’s a fairly organic link between corporate interests, governments and NGOs. I think this is exemplified by current events. This *is* the new world order. It’s just the same as the old.
 
A collapse to anarch is possible, but I think it will be a partial one. I suspect the abondoned working class areas to begin a long decent when the furlough schemes stop and a return to work is clearly not possible. The economic drain caused by the shutdown and the inevitible currency and pension debasement will impact those reliant upon government the most.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  Cicatriz

Aldous Huxley who was directly involved in MKUltra from the evidence of his own letters imagined there would be the Savage Reservation untouched by the technologies of the World State where we primitives still give birth, and endure physical pain and emotional suffering. Interestingly he set it in New Mexico. I wonder where in the world we would be left alone.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Jun 11, 2020 8:29 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

living as a savage in malpais or a fetally deformed tool in the world state – Huxley fouled it at both ends – poor John et al…I think we can do better.

Shruti
Shruti
Jun 11, 2020 3:50 PM
Reply to  Thom

Well in US, as soon as you begin interacting with medical world, the doubts come. The medical system is very broken in US, no matter where you live. I personally try to take care of my health best as I can because I dread the day where I will have to deal with them.

sam
sam
Jun 11, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Thom

I haven’t trusted the UK medical establishment for a long time as they are completed controlled by Big Pharma and its completely the wrong paradigm in whcih to heal

Mikeb
Mikeb
Jun 11, 2020 2:56 PM

Totally not linked to this article but medical related.
Just to make everyone aware if your not already, that everyone is now an organ donor on the nhs unless you opt out….
leave it with you.
 
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/register-your-decision/refuse-to-donate/refuse-donation-form/

Adriana
Adriana
Jun 11, 2020 3:51 PM
Reply to  Mikeb

Get opting out, they keep you alive to harvest the organs and many have been declared brain dead when they could’ve survived.

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 4:21 PM
Reply to  Mikeb

Sorted sometime ago. but they gave me the run around for a little before that website opened recently.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 11, 2020 1:50 PM

Have folks here saved this interview in the event Youtube censors it. Can someone do that?
 
And report here:
 
All-cause mortality during COVID-19: No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341832637_All-cause_mortality_during_COVID-19_No_plague_and_a_likely_signature_of_mass_homicide_by_government_response
 
Abstract:
 
The latest data of all-cause mortality by week does not show a winter-burden mortality that is statistically larger than for past winters. There was no plague. However, a sharp “COVID peak” is present in the data, for several jurisdictions in Europe and the USA.
 
This all-cause-mortality “COVID peak” has unique characteristics:
 
• Its sharpness, with a full-width at half-maximum of only approximately 4 weeks;

• Its lateness in the infectious-season cycle, surging after week-11 of 2020, which is unprecedented for any large sharp-peak feature;
 
• The synchronicity of the onset of its surge, across continents, and immediately following the WHO declaration of the pandemic; and
 
• Its USA state-to-state absence or presence for the same viral ecology on the same territory, being correlated with nursing home events and government actions rather than any known viral strain discernment.
 
These “COVID peak” characteristics, and a review of the epidemiological history, and of relevant knowledge about viral respiratory diseases, lead me to postulate that the “COVID peak” results from an accelerated mass homicide of immune-vulnerable individuals, and individuals made more immune-vulnerable, by government and institutional actions, rather than being an epidemiological signature of a novel virus, irrespective of the degree to which the virus is novel from the perspective of viral speciation.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

On past form YouTube is going to delete this interview. One way to save it is with an Add On or Extension in your browser. It puts a download button on the YouTube page. You can disable/remove it at any time.
 
 Beware download sites that try to get you to install a program. In Mozilla Firefox get the Add On Easy Youtube Video Downloader Express https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/easy-youtube-video-download/
 
The saved video file will be too big to email to your friends and family but you can upload it into Dropbox or any cloud site; create a link to that video file; and email the link.
 
One other useful Add On saves a web page as a PDF so that you can email it. There are many but I find PDF Mage works well.
 
 

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 11, 2020 2:47 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Many Youtube-deleted videos collated here:
 
https://stoplookthink.com/

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 7:02 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Bitchute videos have a magnet icon below them. If you install a torrent manager like Deluge, you can click that magnet icon and the video should be saved to your downloads folder. Just testing it myself.
 

Free 723
Free 723
Jun 11, 2020 7:51 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Thanks for the link. Given that Rancourt was censored the other day with the removal of the “Masks Don’t Work” research he posted (after hundreds of thousands of views) it is surely a good idea to save an archival copy of this new research. Easy to do with the Wayback Machine at https://archive.org/web/ and then paste any link under the “Save Page Now” heading (bottom right) click “Save Now” and it will do its thing.
 
This has now been done for the link you gave:
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20200611183608/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341832637_All-cause_mortality_during_COVID-19_No_plague_and_a_likely_signature_of_mass_homicide_by_government_response
 
And the “Masks Don’t Work” article that was censored on June 5th is here:
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20200601174357/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340570735_Masks_Don't_Work_A_review_of_science_relevant_to_COVID-19_social_policy

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 12, 2020 1:23 AM
Reply to  Free 723

Thanks for those.

Willem
Willem
Jun 11, 2020 1:00 PM

A statement from the interview is that

‘In the same order he [Cuomo] gave hospitals blanket immunity from malpractice suits relating to Covid.’

Here is some news, he did not! But you need to be aware, as I have argued here over and over again, that Covid19 is (at least in some cases) venous thromboembolism. The symptoms are the same, the risk factors are the same, the only difference is that the treatment is different! For Covid19 the treatment is ventilation and for venous thromboembolism it is anticoagulation!

BTW, Please be aware that the wonder drug hydroxychloroquine has anticoagulant properties as explained in this article

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2844013/

Now here is the thing that a surviving patient or relatives of a diseased patient should do.

1. Find out who the responsible physician was at time of Covid19 diagnosis. That could be the GP, but more likely it is the ER doctor. For instance if a patient is send in by the GP to the ER of the hospital with complaints of shortness of breath, cough, chest pain, and the GP asks the ER doctor to make a diagnosis, it is the ER doctor who is the responsible doctor
2. Ask the complete patient file (doctor) plus nurse file, medication file and laboratory/radiology file from the hospital. The hospital must give a patient such files when requested. Make sure that the files given to you are complete!
3. Ask the protocol from the hospital that should be followed when a person comes in with complaints that include shortness of breath, cough, chest pain and what the ER doctor should do in such an instance. This is of utmost importance because local protocols should be followed by the doctors who are working in that hospital. Protocols may differ, but all most likely include that in people with such complaints, there is a chance of a couple of diseases, generally heart disease, lung infection or pulmonary embolism. Given this differential diagnosis, these diseases should be ruled out when the patient is seen in hospital.
4. Look in the files (nurse files may be best as they file a lot more about the well-being of a patient than doctor files) if there were signs and symptoms mentioned that could be related to pulmonary embolism (Dutch guidelines say: shortness of breath, dry cough, pain when breathing, coughing blood). If there are these symptoms, you usually add some other factors in your decision tree as a doctor. One of those factors is, take a d-dimer (a protein that is raised at time of venous thromboembolism)
5. Now if you had symptoms that could be related to venous thromboembolism, yet the doctor decided not to rule out the disease, the doctor failed to comply to the local protocol (a violation). If the doctor did some extra testing, like measuring d-dimer and the result is high enough to warrant extra radiological testing, yet the radiologic test was not performed, the doctor also failed to comply to the local protocol.

Now a game that hospitals usually like to play when it comes to malfeasance, is to ask the causality question. Lawyers from the hospital may say: ‘sure something should have gone different, the treating physician made a mistake, yet it is not said that this mistake led to worsening of the disease. The patient was already sick when he entered the hospital for other reasons than (potential) venous thromboembolism and this other sickness caused his or her deterioration. And since you cannot proof that this is what actually happened (for that you need a time machine) you cannot proof malfeasance or negligence or malpractice and the doctor (and hospital) will come clean. Just to be absolutely clear here with what I mean with burden of proof: suppose a patient gets a bowel operation, the doctor leaves in his scissors, stitches up the wound, and the patient dies, the doctor/lawyer may say: it was the underlying disease that killed the patient and not the scissors that were left behind.

Here is the thing that should be followed when dealing with such doctors/lawyers: you should tell them about the reversal of the burden of proof, which is, in Dutch law anchored in the so called ‘protocol arrest’ (you can google this if you like). And the protocol arrest tells you that if a doctor didn’t follow the local protocol, he should explain (in the doctors file that is!) why he didn’t follow the protocol. If the doctor did not sufficiently document that, and the alternative, yet missed, diagnosis is serious enough to at least equally explain the outcome of the patient (death or remaining shortness of breath due to a missed or too late diagnosed pulmonary embolism), the burden of proof reverses And then it is the doctor/ lawyer of the hospital who shoold proof that the alternative, yet missed, diagnosis did not cause the complications/death in the patient! If that cannot be done, then the patient has every right to get his justice through medical law (suing the doctor through medical or criminal law) and the hospital (usually civil law=financial compensation)

I don’t like the idea that you only can get your justice by suing doctors and lawyers. So if you are a patient or relative of a surviving patient with Covid19 in whom a venous thromboembolism was undiagnosed or diagnosed too late, I would like to give the advice to talk with the doctors first. Doctors aren’t criminals (at least not more than average human beings are), but humans who make mistakes. From mistakes one can learn, but before learning, the acknowledgement that one made a mistake should be made! This is one of the reasons why I hope that I can convince doctors from the inside perspective that they admit the mistake and publish their mistake. For now however, I have to deal with the truth of absolute non-response the moment I try to convince my medical colleagues that the above could be the reason why 25-50% of surviving patients with Covid19 who are admitted to ICU have venous thromboembolism (a staggering amount never seen before for any other concurrent disease, with the potential exception of pancreas carcinoma).

And I do understand that it is rather painful for a doctor to admit that in his foolishness he may have caused more misery than absolutely necessary. Yet, I am convinced that such an experience (missing a diagnosis) is much more painful for the deceased or surviving patient who had to suffer because of such foolishness from the treating physician.

All this information should be considered as given to you by an informed layman. I would certainly advice anyone who wants to follow this path to first get some free advice from a lawyer or medical professional (who can look into the patient file) before proceeding (these paths can be long and painful, usually it takes >10 years) before a judge comes with the ultimate verdict, and since it is the law, you may come empty handed (as the law is not flawless even if you are right).

Also judge for yourself if it is worth proceeding (as the Bible says ‘thou shall not judge’, with which sentiment I agree, but this may be different for others and may not apply to all situations).

If you proceed: one well meant advice, don’t blame the doctor, blame the system!

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 11, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  Willem

Willem,
 
Another great comment. I do disagree where you say (imply?) doctors should not be sued. They most certainly should and vigorously. Not only due to the simple fact of malpractice- killing people by misdiagnosis or systemic incompetence must have severe consequences- but also as once the doctors are sued then dominoes begin to fall.
 
What this would look like is that the doctors would then turn on the scumbag administrators who gave these directives “from above” and then those administrators would be forced to testify as to where these mandates came from leading us to the scumbags in the State who altered policy leading to these countless deaths.
 
This is how effective prosecution works. Prosecutors here should proceed mercilessly and we should indeed judge all of those involved in this life-destroying scandal at whatever level they operated.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

I won’t speak for Willem but my reading is he’s saying that Gov Cuomo did not issue blanket immunity for COVID deaths… https://www.mlmic.com/blog/physicians/new-york-physician-immunity-during-pandemic but there are ways that patients/families can demand paperwork that records names and dates so that a lawyer would have something to go on.

Offlands
Offlands
Jun 11, 2020 4:26 PM
Reply to  Willem

Willem, I would love to know your thoughts on this Dutch study that argues that immunity will be shortlived and this could become the 5th endemic coronavirus.:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.11.20086439v1

You may even know some of the authors.

A poster on anther site is claiming bad news for all those that support heard immunity etc etc.

Personally I think the report has more holes in it that Swiss cheese.

Willem
Willem
Jun 11, 2020 4:56 PM
Reply to  Offlands

This is not my expertise (virology), but I read the abstract and was puzzled by the conclusion. They say

‘We saw frequent reinfections at 12 months post-infection.’

Problem is they measured everything with antibody testing, which can lead to cross-reactions. So you may have coronavirus1 in March and coronavirus2 in September, yet the antibody tests may result in that you had coronavirus1 in March and corinavirus1 in September (a ‘reinfection’)

I think the average individual catches some common cold (coronavirus) 3 times a year (I do), so that means with faulty antibody testing that you might get ‘reinfected’ with the same coronavirus while actuallly you had different coronaviruses that led to common cold.

Some of that is explained here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/113504/

I do know that a sample of 10 individuals (the study included 10 individuals) is not very compelling…

sam
sam
Jun 11, 2020 12:22 PM

Here’s whats in store for us from the WEC, all planned down to minute detail to implement the world government
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1Gb0000000pTD3EAM?tab=publications
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 10:58 AM

So many people go along with eugenics, with murder. The psychology is fascinating. (I’m writing this directly from Erin Olszewski’s comments, especially for those who fear they will find the interview too upsetting.)
 
The politicians: How did Governor Cuomo know in March that they’d need 30,000 ventilators? Nurse Erin says that within two days it was clear that the vents were killing people. “It is murder. It is setting these people up for failure based on money.” “Cuomo wants to be right. He requested all these vents, he wants to use them.” Cuomo singled out Hydroxychloroquine as the one drug that could NOT be used, supposedly to prevent hoarding and protect its availability for other uses like Lupus. He banned outpatient use of HCL (it is most effective in early stages) and only later changed the order to allow its use in late-state Covid cases. In the same order he gave hospitals blanket immunity from malpractice suits relating to Covid.
 
Public hospitals were using Hydroxychloroquine and zinc with a 100% success rate and Erin quotes even elderly, obese individual who fully recovered. In Texas a doctor is using HCL with a shot of antibiotic and it has been proven to work.
 

“There is no reason any government should get between the doctor-patient relationship. That is none of their business. It is the same reason they won’t use other treatments that are successful in other parts of the world.”

 
So whose idea was the ventilators? “The orders are coming from above. Everyone is saying it’s someone higher up. “I said, so call your higher ups, and they would not.. everyone is scared,” says Erin.
 

“You are living in the Twilight Zone. You feel you are the only sane one and it is scary because people are trusting nurses to take care of them. and they’re doing the opposite. I am afraid that I will begin to think this is normal. The people I work with who are local nurses and doctors don’t see anything wrong with this.”

 
The patients go along with it, too. “They are alone, there is no family with these patients in the middle of a pandemic… we have soft restraints on all of our patients. It is easier to treat them with drugs and tie them to their beds.” A healthy 37 year-old guy gets the idea from the media that he has breathing difficulties so he goes for a checkup. They put him in the “step down” unit which is for those who don’t test positive for Covid. Then they move him into the “step up”.
 
The real confirmed Covids you recognize because they clearly cannot breathe. The public has been told to self quarantine so people who could be treated easily are coming in too late. The lungs are coated with thick, white mucus. Once you get to that stage there are treatments in Asia, with Dr Chang, with extreme levels of Vit C along with antibiotics, and it passed three trials but they don’t want to do that here.
 
The doctors: “they think they are doctors but they’re residents with zero experience. I have had to teach them basic nursing skills. The doctors give them a choice: you will likely die from this or we can give you a little help breathing. They don’t call it a ventilator. And that’s it. They get the sedation, they go to sleep and that’s it. They don’t wake up. They’re in a body bag.” There are some doctors but another doctor comes on shift and cranks it up. It is difficult to go down. The lung membrane expands so in order to fill and deflate them you need more pressure. As they deteriorate you have to give them even more oxygen.
 
The nurses: Many nurses just do what they’re told. They are order followers.They want to please. Tell them to follow a procedure that kills and they do it.
 
The only patient to live from the Covid ward on Elmhurst Hospital in Queens, NYC, pulled the tube out of his nose.
 

“He is fine, he is home now. What is sad is he thinks we saved his life. He said to me, ‘you saved me’, I thought no, man, you saved yourself. Had he not pulled that out he would be dead for sure.”

 
Elmhurst hospital has not successfully discharged or taken off ventilator a single patient since the Covid event began. Not one. (Doctor recorded secretly by nurse Erin)
 
A WORD FROM NURSE ERIN:
 

“If you tell people something enough times, like the media: Vents, vents, vents, vents… and you say as a nurse, ‘no vents’, you are going against what the government says. But does the government have everyone’s best interest at heart?”

“Are they thinking about the 57 year-old grandma that didn’t have to die or the 37 year-old who was totally fine when he walked into the emergency room… I have nothing to gain and everything to lose by sharing this but I think it is important that these families get closure and one day be able to hold them accountable for what they did.”

 
https://youtu.be/UIDsKdeFOmQ?t=3190

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 11:23 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

This comment is flat out garbage.
 
There is no ‘virus.’ The whole thing has been invented from start to finish by evil people.
 
If people are dying, it’s because they are being murdered by government decree.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  breweriana

This is a direct quotation from the interview with Nurse Erin. Words in “quotes” are exactly hers. Those outside, are an accurate paraphrase. I cannot vouch for her view on virus, no virus. However, that is not the point of her interview – in which she clearly states that a large number of those killed by ventilator had none of the symptoms attributed to Covid.
 
 

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 11:30 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Then you paraphrase evil lies.
Pointless.
 
The real fight must be against the entire social disruption of ‘lockdown’ that has been caused by this cruel hoax.
 
Make no mistake, there will be a ‘second wave’, this time to cancel Christmas – this was only the introduction for what is to follow.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 11:37 AM
Reply to  breweriana

How do you propose to prove it is ‘evil lies’ and a ‘cruel hoax’ without the testimony of people like nurse Erin?

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 11:45 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

You’re doing it again.
Concentrating attention on the FAKE ‘virus.’
 
What is REAL is the societal effects of the ‘lockdown’ and all the other measures, including those witnessed in the testimonial.
People need to be arraigned for these crimes.

Reg
Reg
Jun 11, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  breweriana

Amen. I really, really implore people to look into what Michael Flynn’s lawyer said about the contents of Anthony Weiner’s laptop, Hillary’s destruction of 33,000 emails and her BlackBerrys, and the Wikileaks’ dump of the Podesta emails. There is a nightmare waiting to be revealed.

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  Reg

The problem is you’re almost forensically laying out a case for a crime no ones paying any attention too or cares about except us smucks here & there’s no point preaching to the converted.
 
Its a neo-liberal coup & we ain’t invited to take part. I’m only here to pass the time during my lockup sentence, i know any words i have to offer are futile.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 5:43 PM
Reply to  Objective

a crime no ones paying any attention to”
Wait for the so-called ‘2nd wave’ that will cancel Christmas.
What is happening now is only the introduction.
People will be paying attention for the sake of their lives. Everybody.
This is NOT a virus.

Reg
Reg
Jun 12, 2020 12:56 AM
Reply to  breweriana

No, he meant the crimes of the super rich, the Clintons, the Obamas, the child-trafficking foundations, Hollywood, etc. The crimes of the death cult you’ve heard only whispers of.

Objective
Objective
Jun 12, 2020 3:36 AM
Reply to  Reg

Exactly reg, who do they think is funding all these weaponized political agendas? Its being done to cause division & conflict to eradicate tradional conservative values, family, community, country etc. so neo-liberal elite can advance their long term agendas. And its got nothing to do with equality!

Objective
Objective
Jun 12, 2020 3:31 AM
Reply to  breweriana

Christmas is over rated, Christmas to most of us is a capitalist consumer fest! its lost all meaning even for most religious people. I stopped Christmas decades ago,
 
It is a virus, a political virus that is sucking the life out of the country provoking divisions for what i can only assume is another violent bloody war. looks like all is going to plan from here.

Alan Tench
Alan Tench
Jun 11, 2020 11:45 AM
Reply to  breweriana

I can vouch for the fact that it’s not a hoax. A couple of my relatives caught it, and it wasn’t nice. That said, the hysteria, paranoia, fake news and government malpractice, to identify a few of the many issues, has made the situation infinitely worse that it would otherwise have been.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 12:28 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

And I’ve had ‘flu. So? They caught SOMETHING I do not doubt.
 
It was not ‘novel’, ‘corona’, ‘covid19’ or whatever hoax name the politicians of the day are using to cover for their evil ‘lockdown.’
 
Comments like yours only detract from what should be investigated: the ‘lockdown’ tyranny.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 11, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Alan Tench

Probably food poisoning.

breweriana
breweriana
Jun 11, 2020 11:25 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

They are order followers.”
And remind me, what happened to that defence at the Nuremberg Trials?

snuffleupagus
snuffleupagus
Jun 11, 2020 8:26 PM
Reply to  breweriana

what happened to the order-followers who incinerated Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?
 
order-followers are winners, as long as the order-givers also are.
 

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 10:39 AM

The only patient to walk out alive from the Covid ward on Elmhurst Hospital in Queens, NYC, pulled the ventilator tube out of his nose.

“He is fine, he is home now. What is sad is he thinks we saved his life. He said to me, ‘you saved me’, I thought no, man, you saved yourself. Had he not pulled that out he would be dead for sure.”

Elmhurst hospital has not successfully discharged or taken off ventilator a single patient since the Covid event began. Not one. (Doctor recorded secretly by nurse Erin) @53 minutes.
 
https://youtu.be/UIDsKdeFOmQ?t=3190
 
 

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 11, 2020 11:30 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Ventilator Intubation goes down through the mouth ….

The utter nonsense of some comments is comical – like they never ever watched an episode of ER!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 11:42 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Yes i suspected that was wrong, my bad for not checking. And no, I don’t have time to waste on ER.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 11, 2020 3:32 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Yes… because George Clooney is a real doctor.
 
All these doctor-hero TV shows do nothing but contribute to the Medical Hero worship religion. I enjoy Michael Crichton’s books, but modern giant dinosaurs, angry off-species gorilla armies firing lasers, and space station ghosts are all fiction.

Ort
Ort
Jun 11, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  WorldParole

Your comment triggered a memory I can’t resist sharing.
 
I never watched “ER”, but I was a fan of its predecessor, the 1982 TV hospital drama “St. Elsewhere”. Generally, the fictional young doctors on that show were fanatically dedicated. One recurring theme was a patient who had some mysterious affliction that baffled the staff– if the diagnosis itself wasn’t elusive, the difficulty was that the doctors couldn’t determine its cause or prevent its recurrence.
 
Often enough, the patient would either volunteer information, or the doctor(s) would engage in protracted interviews with the patient to draw out background information. Finally, there would be a “Eureka!” moment, when one of the stars would put two and two together based on some obscure fact gleaned from the patient’s seemingly-chaotic and irrelevant disclosures.
 
I wasn’t yet 30 years old, and being generally healthy stayed away from doctors. But when I finally did start seeing them, based on my impressions from watching “St. Elsewhere”, if I had some problem I would conscientiously strive to communicate anything I thought might be helpful. I honestly thought I was being responsible by being forthcoming. I was rapidly “schooled” by doctors impatiently and peremptorily interrupting me and cutting me off as if I were a blithering hypochondriac.
 
I realized that in the real world, doctors don’t listen to patients and are actually irritated by patients annoying them with what they obviously see as foolish chatter. My primary care physician actually engages in some dialogue, but now I know that when I am sent to a specialist, the preferred communication model is more along the lines of an animal visiting a veterinarian.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 12, 2020 12:11 AM
Reply to  Ort

I realized that in the real world, doctors don’t listen to patients and are actually irritated by patients annoying them with what they obviously see as foolish chatter.

 
Nurses, too.
 
Which is why the whole healthcare debate (pre-covid era) was all BS in the first place. Obamacare? Garbage. Private Health care? Garbage, but at least you could opt out.
 

kevin
kevin
Jun 12, 2020 2:50 AM
Reply to  Ort

Quincy was very good, too. Watched the reruns.

Objective
Objective
Jun 12, 2020 3:43 AM
Reply to  Ort

Never liked (American) medcial dramas, until House md, everything was lupus until it turned out to be a giant flat worm. He did nothing by the book & avoided his patients if at all possible. This helped shape my attitude to keep as far away from professional medics as much as possible, ive always had a rational allergy to hospitals.
 

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
Jun 11, 2020 9:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I watched the video and while I recall her saying he’d pulled out the tube, I’m sure she didn’t mention nose because I would have clocked that. I think she just said he pulled out the tube.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
Jun 11, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  Cheezilla

However, I did wonder how he succeeded if he was sedated for ventilation. Maybe he was high on fentanyl, like George Floyd?

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Jun 13, 2020 12:17 PM
Reply to  Cheezilla

She very clearly stated that because he was a drug user he had opiate tolerance and was thus less sedated than many patients

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
Jun 13, 2020 3:31 PM
Reply to  KarenEliot

Then clearly he shouldn’t have been ventilated. Good for him for escaping!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 11, 2020 10:31 AM

Word up OffGuardian…. I’ve just had notification from Stasi Book – also known as Facebook, that the excellent article by Kit on 31st May “Its All Bullshit – 3 Leaks That Sink The Covid Narrative’ has been deemed ‘false information’ by independent fact checkers.
And they’ve bloody blanked the screen.
Bastard Filth… When the hell are people going to wake up to this Fascism right in front of their eyes?
I shared it with quite a few others, so I assume Kits article has been blanked everywhere?
Perhaps you need to do another story just who these “independent fact checkers” really are.

Admin1
Admin
Admin1
Jun 11, 2020 2:10 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thanks for alerting us

Jilly
Jilly
Jun 11, 2020 10:06 AM

W.H.O. Admits Asymptomatic Spread of Coronavirus is “Very Rare” 

 
This guy is a frequent guest on RT, so a member of the loose alliance of ‘alt-right opposition’ who I am always suspicious of, but how else are they to get on air? but I think he can’t be wrong on this.

 

Kalen
Kalen
Jun 11, 2020 11:38 AM
Reply to  Jilly

Attempts of Defrauding gagging epidemiological sciences are rampant. All aimed at defending legacy of murder.

Many nurses like this and doctors described killing fields of public health institutions to prop up statistics in support baseless COVID narrative of fear blatantly exploited as tool of mass social control. That confirms that perhaps up to 95% of all official COVID deaths were not actually caused or associated or even attributed to COVID. Making IFR below that of seasonal flu.

WHO that did not recommend lockdowns, face masks for healthy or contact tracing or social distancing as harmful for original SARS-COVID-1 in 2003, discredited itself completely and entered business of suppression of scientific data and gaging its officials about SARS-Cov-2 and COVID. WHO joined OPCW in peddling political expedient lies.

In fact a hint from recent epidemiological studies trying to model development of officially counted SC2 infections backward toward origin found, assuming that R0 for SC2 is larger than one (2-3) , existence of Dark (invisible) Pool” of up to 90% of population inherently resistant to SC2 infections pushing R (reproduction number) to less than one already in early February in China and mid to late February in EU and US. The existence of inherently resistant pool provided effective population immunity at much lower than assumed 60% level of exposure needed to acquire immunity , within range of official percentage of population with already detected SC2 antibodies from 3-20% of US

In the same time common general immune mechanism based of T Cell Memory, already operating against common cold coronaviruses, was discovered to apply to SC2 as well.

In this study, the authors found a small number of SARS-CoV-2 reactive CD4 T cells (i.e. these T cells may recognize certain SARS-CoV-2 proteins) in healthy control individuals who had seemingly never been infected with SARS-CoV-2. Very likely, these CD4 T cells are so-called memory T cells that stem from previous infections with endemic coronaviruses that may cause the common cold. However, these other coronaviruses share certain similarities with SARS-CoV-2, i.e. SARS-CoV-2 might “look” just similar to a common cold coronavirus in the eyes of these CD4 memory T cells, so that, in theory, it is possible that these CD4 memory T cells would not only react to frequent re-infections with endemic “common cold” coronaviruses, but also to a “new” infection with SARS-CoV-2. Importantly, though, it is not clear yet what this observation implies: T cells can be friends or foes, meaning that memory CD4 T cells cross-reactive against SARS-CoV-2 might be helpful in fighting off this virus (as suggested by the authors based on the fact that children, who generally tend to get more common colds per year, seem to fare better when it comes to COVID-19).. So larger studies are needed to follow up on this observation and what it might mean.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20061440v1

Asymptomatic people may be part of immune resistant dark pool epidemiological models discovered as those people may likely develop acquired immunity fast enough (5-7 days) to avoid any or significant infection of human cells and hence preventing becoming SC2 spreaders.

This hard core data unequivocally calls for canceling guess all the devastating restrictive social measures and defund SC2 vaccine research as useless and needless and opening criminal investigation.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jun 11, 2020 10:06 AM

More confirmation of what has been obvious to more intelligent people for months. We must do our bit to keep waking up the bovine masses.

Joe
Joe
Jun 11, 2020 10:25 AM
Reply to  Zen Priest

It’s gonna be one hell of “I told you so”!

kevin
kevin
Jun 11, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

They will never wake up. They either don’t want to or are incapable of doing so. I would love to be wrong about this.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Jun 11, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  kevin

I hear you Kevin. But I divide them into two camps, those who will never believe the truth and those who need to be nudged. I used to be one of the latter. If we don’t do what we can our fate is sealed.

Shin
Shin
Jun 11, 2020 9:59 AM

Reality in the face of hysteria. Brave women and thanks OffG for publishing.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 12, 2020 4:23 PM
Reply to  Shin

we had one former doctor in Australia who repeatedly stated we would need tens of thousands of ventilators and beds, all based on the Ferguson bullshit, so they closed all the private hospitals and sacked all the nurses, cancelled 400,000 surgeries – they still won’t admit the Ferguson crap was crap so people are dying, being beaten and murdered and the rich do silly little Iso films. I came across doctors and nurses like those in Elmshurst is both public and private – a matron giving paraldehyde to a dementia patient against doctors orders merely because she walked off to her daughters house. An old lady given a cold bath in mid winter for a mild fever and left in an open room to literally freeze, she died in 2 days.

The time a nursing sister tied a crippled diabetic to a toilet seat for three hours and she died from exposure and insulation shock. I have seen nurses beat patients, steal from them, doctors who failed work with the seriously chronically ill and give terrible orders to treat them. The worst ever was watching nurses and young doctors abuse a sweet former professor with Huntingtons like she was something lower than a cockroach – it was a blessing when she died but they could have treated her with some fucking respect.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 11, 2020 9:44 AM

I posted a comment a few days ago about my son’s friend, who works in a Lincolnshire hospital, telling him about a heroin overdose death that was recorded as covid.
 
Having spoken to him about it in more depth since, it turns out that his friend is a consultant. She was so disturbed by what happened, she put up a comment about it on her facebook. Within 24 hrs, hers facebook account was deleted (by facebook), she was sent home to ‘isolate’ because a doctor at that hospital decided she was ‘showing signs of covid infection’, and she was told that if she spoke about this to anybody again, she would be sacked with the possibility of further (unspecified) action against her.
 
I only know the details of this instance because my son knows her. How often is this being repeated in other hospitals (or indeed that same one)?
 
I realise this is anecdotal and I can’t offer any proof or links, so take it or leave it as you will.

Jilly
Jilly
Jun 11, 2020 9:59 AM
Reply to  Philippe

Sorry but that story has a ring of untruth about it.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 11, 2020 10:12 AM
Reply to  Jilly

Don’t be sorry. Your opinion is just as valid as anybody else’s.
 
As I said, I appreciate that it’s anecdotal. Any assurances I could give regarding my belief in what I was told are, I realise, meaningless. You don’t know me so why would you trust me, or indeed anybody online? Which is why I reiterate that you should take it or leave it as the fancy takes you.

Joe
Joe
Jun 11, 2020 10:26 AM
Reply to  Philippe

If I was going by my gut feeling, you are telling the truth.

DAVID
DAVID
Jun 11, 2020 11:26 AM
Reply to  Joe

Always trust your gut feeling it will NEVER fail you. I also believe this has a certain amount of truth to it.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 11, 2020 10:47 AM
Reply to  Jilly

For reference, here is my original comment on this site (from 31st May). I followed up with my son soon after that but the subject of today’s video presented the first real opportunity to add to my original post, without it being just some random off-topic comment.

Binra
Binra
Jun 11, 2020 12:22 PM
Reply to  Jilly

Best to state it in terms of your ownership than argue a story.
Best also not to believe just because it is plausible – or not.
 
But look at the accounts of many on lockdownsceptics who are being persecuted and sacked for saying the ‘wrong thing’ or not saying the right thing.
Covid operates a compression by which to shape the charge of accepted and endorsed release.
If it isnt a 4th Industrial Revolution Global Reich – (I dont mean German) what is it?
If you don’t ‘give the knee’ you are threatened with receiving it socially, financially or physically. Is this the ‘saving vaccine’ for release to a new normal?
 
There is that in our mind which will want to kill or deny others rather than die.
This is a terrible and damning sense of self and life.
How can those who accept such a life NOT be blanked, hollow and driven puppets of a blind groupthink?
Orwell also showed this – but he did not show more than this.
Jesus showed more than this – but the self-damning cannot see or hear.
I am not speaking of blind belief or magical association here – but simply a perspective greater than the mind of judgement and the measure of its own giving and receiving. Intuition of Life is of a quality of recognition. Is there a way of …
… continued on
https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.com/2020/06/a-terrible-and-damning-sense-of-self.html

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jun 11, 2020 3:27 PM
Reply to  Philippe

Interesting. Obviously anecdotal, as you say. Was anything backed up before before Facebook removed it?
 
I would (if I were inclined to post anything substantive on Facebook but I have less painful things to do like smearing my eyeballs with chilli powder) definitely back stuff like that up.

Philippe
Philippe
Jun 11, 2020 5:15 PM
Reply to  Cicatriz

I have no idea.
 
My understanding is that she made some comments re the situation she had witnessed at work, got a few incredulous replies etc then left it. The next day she was informed that her facebook account had been removed.
 
I don’t do facebook so I don’t really know how it works. Would her posts still appear on her friends’ facebooks after her account had been removed? If so, then the info is still up there somewhere.

Cicatriz
Cicatriz
Jun 11, 2020 5:24 PM
Reply to  Philippe

If farcebook has removed them, I’m pretty sure they’re gone from the whoe site.
 
Unfortunately, I don’t think the wayback machine can cache farcebook posts unlike twitter and standard websites.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 9:38 AM

Some 37-year old guy listens to the propaganda bull shit from the Corporatist Media, imagines he has shortness of breath and goes to the hospital for a test. The nurse says you have breathing difficulties but not Covid. The resident (doctor in training) puts him on a ventilator and kills him. Hospital wins $39,000.
 
The non-rebreather mask is just assistance of extra oxygen. Doctors skip that. Instead they go straight to high pressure ventilators – and they blow up the lungs. They blow you funking lungs up. You die.
 
THE ONLY PATIENT WHO WALKED OUT ALIVE PULLED THE TUBE OFF HIS NOSE.
 
Many nurses just do what they’re told. They are order followers.They want to please. Tell them to follow a procedure that kills and they kill. Nurse Erin accuses one colleague @29:00 of laughing and smirking.
 
Dr. Scott Jenson, a Minnesota state senator who is also a medical doctor, accused the CDC of directing doctors to list COVID-19 as a cause of death even for someone who was never tested for it, which he said is “ridiculous” and misleading.
 
“Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [have] impact on what we do.”
 
Vampire Fauci told Dr Jenson that accusations of padding numbers and the CDC document, which advocates making COVID-19 the cause of death without medical proof, are part of “conspiracy theories” during “challenging” times in public health.
 
https://trendsresearch.com/the-numbers-dont-add-up/

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 11, 2020 10:55 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

That is the fate that awaits us in the U.K. as the US medical industry finally get their hands on our NHS and forces us into the insurance model.

How many more warnings do you need? The hard BrexShit heads – Fartage, Bozo the clown, Gove puppet, Evil Dom … their pay masters and strung pullers Bannon, the mega rich WASP types and the the bankers.

You think the race riots are going to be bad – wait till we tear down Maggie, Churchill and invade Whitehall and the Palace – the British people are not going to take kindly to have been fooled and suckered by these chancers.

Geoff
Geoff
Jun 11, 2020 12:12 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I only wish you were right, if things start looking that bad they will arrange a football match between Liverpool and Manchester United/England France that will take the steam out of it

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 11, 2020 2:43 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Are you attempting to incite violence?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 11, 2020 11:56 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Protest.
Like the poll tax.
Or General Strike.

By the way responding with proportionate force against daylight robbery in public is inciting self defence if anything.

You steal my free NHS , I’ll take your free buildings and lifestyle.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Jun 12, 2020 9:25 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I’ll take that as a yes.

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 8:53 AM




 
No endorsement, take it or leave it. (More David Rose) Del Bigtree The Coronavirus Vaccine Agenda – London Real 

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 13, 2020 7:30 AM
Reply to  Objective

I’ve watched about two thirds of it and Bigtree is impressive. He knows it all back-to-front and can sustain a continuous monologue without pause. I have doubts, however, about Brian Rose. He just seems to have a list of questions which could have been prepared for him. And his flipping wrt vaccines (12 mins) is suspect. He is supposed to be into health, but says he always used to take the flu shot. It’s not 100% clear, but I think he says he “almost” vaccinated his kids. What does that mean?

Objective
Objective
Jun 13, 2020 8:17 AM

Rose is a unapologetic capitalist, he is using his platform to generate cash, as far as I can see, his motives are to be a zillionare by building another you tube, maybe his greed & ego don’t have such high aspirations i don’t know or care it may just be a cheap scam to market online get rich quick schemes with motivational propaganda course’s.
 
He uses high value controversial figures to generate an audience, like Icke & Buttar etc. BUT you know the saying don’t shoot the messenger at least until you’ve understood the message. His channel & narrative do have a theme of free speech, whether its genuine or not who knows.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 13, 2020 6:14 PM
Reply to  Objective

Yes, it means he could flip again any time he sees a better deal.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 8:44 AM

 
This is not only about inflating Covid numbers. This is hospitals profiteering. This is ethnic cleansing in NYC. Note that a lot of racial minorities occupy prime real estate ripe for gentrification.
 
This is exactly what Jon Rappoport and Catherine Austin Fitts discovered from their contacts and publicized two months ago.
 
They were saying the patients in NYC are mostly racial minorities. They were right about the Medicare payout to the hospital: $39k for Covid+pneumonia+ventillator but only $4,700 without the ventilator. They were right about the ventilators killing people. Now you have the proof from a nurse.
 
Rappaport and Austin Fitts also reported from their sources that in order for gentrification to proceed, poor people need to move out of desirable quarters of New York City. Rent controls need to be dismantled.
 
Credibility: Catherine Austin Fitts is a former Assistant Secretary of Housing, former board member of Dillon Read and head of her own investment bank.
 
https://youtu.be/e7xJxF5zdgo?t=2023 Oh! Removed by YouTube. I will try to find it and post.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 11, 2020 9:02 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

No conspiracy necessary. All you have to do is set the Medicare numbers so that it profits the hospitals to diagnose Covid.
 
No need to say a word. Just make it so Covid+ventilator = $39,000 and the market will do the rest.

Binra
Binra
Jun 11, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yes I generally see ‘The Conspiracy’ as Adam Smith’s other hand.
(Negatively or segregatively defined self interest).
 

WorldParole
WorldParole
Jun 11, 2020 4:30 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

No conspiracy necessary indeed. Runaway protocols with people believing they are doing good.
 
Your information and arguments have been great.

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 8:33 AM
Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 11, 2020 8:29 AM

The privatised profit motivated National Health Service, coming our way to the U.K. with medical insurance and multi tier medicine.

Along with chlorinated chicken, hormonised beef and GM everything else, no working regulations and no holidays…

As has been long planned following the hard BrexShit, by the the gangs of criminals neocon/libs of Tory/NuLabInc psychopaths in governments for last 50 years.

We had a choice to stop it in December – the MSM and you lot here derided the warnings and attacked the man with made up slurs instead, most of you paid trolls don’t give a damn. Now your kids and grand kids will live in the privatised slavery of the US – no regulations, no protections, debts from the day they are born and no security ever.

Well done for selling your grand dads and grandmothers legacy of their wartime sacrifices and gains.

Well fucking done 👏. 👏. 👏

The pathocracy can’t rob and kill and make war at will anywhere they like any more. Hard to hide on your super yachts and far off compounds when sophisticated drones know where to find your billionaire arses anywhere on Earth anytime.

So every opportunity is used to screw their own citizens. – As they started out doing centuries ago.

The Corona Virus is regardless – REAL real real.

And so is the pandemic. We had a choice of dealing with it in January. But making money from it and using it for furthering the psychopaths agenda has yet again won the day then.

The chickens are coming home to roost much sooner this time …

Let the evil blue flying monkey army descend. From Atlantic Council Bell Ends to the 77th order following keyboard storm troopers, and Cabinet Office illegal use of Civil Servants – Dom’s BrexShit heads – come. Rain your spaffery at your favourite toss rag.

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 8:41 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Oh the rantings of a delusional mind, are you now saying cv19 is brexits fault? HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!
 
Brexit is the first step of breaking the neo-liberal (leftist) stranglehold.

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 11, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  Objective

I see the truth of my clear calm opinion is finally dawning on you O.

I am not surprised it is making you hysterical- it is normal, when people realise they have been fooled, used, abused … it is shock.

Now calm down and read it again.

You will see I did not say here or anywhere else that CV-19 is BrexShits fault.

I do say that the unnecessary Excess Deaths in the U.K. are the fault of the BrexShit heads in government and their media flunkies.

Because they are so fixated on achieving their grand plan that they refused to coordinate with the EU with a response to the pandemic.

Leaving us with no adequate Ppe for our care workers and NHS staff as is fully documented by their failure to engage with EU planning. We were humiliated and forced to go begging to the Turks for some shoddy scraps instead and even sent RAF planes to ‘collect’ something.

What suddenly made you into an expert of ’neoliberal leftists’?? I mean wtf does it even mean? When did you first hear of it? From who?

Just stop and think for a moment – what if it all has been lies from day one ? What if austerity and fears about immigrants was just one big plan to achieve the freedom to sell your grannies and sons and daughters grandkids into slavery for ever – throwing away all the hard won gains from the aristos at the end of WW2?

Just think how these future generations of forever indentured, un-housed, insecure, without a free health service, free education, or safe working with adequate welfare pensions or holidays , are going to remember this generation that THREW IT ALL AWAY?

Upto you O, think what you want, think what you want to believe, what some arsehole you like, wants you to believe – but it is not real – live with the consequences.

All best.

Geoff
Geoff
Jun 11, 2020 12:26 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

Why do you respond to that prick after he’s finished checking his bank account he comes on here ‘trying’ to wind people up, just let him go unanswered

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 2:27 PM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I laughed hysterically at your opinion because it was ludicrous, not its delivery!
 
If you’re not blaming cv19 on brexit WTF is brexit being discussed here, unless its because you’re a sore LOOSER?
 
Look I am what you would call a libertarian, conservative-socialist with a small cs. I value my freedom above all else, i’m not really an advocate of democracy either, but at least it offers an illusion of choice. They haven’t produced a politician i’d vote for, they all deserve lining up against a wall & I don’t even agree with corporal punishment!
 
The United Soviet Socialist European Union’s form of communism is run by a group of unelectable neo-liberal corporate shills, with a socialist totalitarian agenda that would make Kim jong un blush. people didn’t vote conservative they didn’t vote for a person or party they voted for a concept. Freedom & an end to leftist ideology of identity politics & victim hood!
 
Yes there will be challenges & obstacles like a tory government to overcome but you have to start somewhere. You’re deluded if you believe the EU was going to provide you security, housing, health care, pensions blah blah we were in the EU for 50 years look where that got us 50 years of tory government & austerity!
 
Wake up the NHS is already privatized in everything but name the only public part of the NHS is the employee bill. I’m not even going to waste my time with the leftist PPE red herring. Its as useful as wearing a colander on your head, a blind fold & crutch-less knickers over your face.
 
I don’t trust any government or their media lackeys. Politicians are professional liars & I don’t give a fuck about future generations, that’s their problem they can make their own way in the world if they choose to be perpetual slaves to corporate elite that’s their problem..But they aint dragging me into that serfdom.
 
Dude nothing politicians tell you is real!
 
 

John Milton
John Milton
Jun 11, 2020 9:09 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin

I get the impression that you didn’t vote for brexit?

Dungroanin
Dungroanin
Jun 11, 2020 11:21 AM
Reply to  John Milton

I certainly didn’t vote for a hard BrexShit. 🤡🤡🤡

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 9:36 AM
Reply to  Dungroanin
Jilly
Jilly
Jun 11, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  Objective

What is always gratifying is how truly bad the pro-Brexit arguments always are.

Objective
Objective
Jun 11, 2020 10:51 AM
Reply to  Jilly

As opposed to having no arguments?