Bait-&-Switch: How they’ve changed the Covid conversation
It was supposed to be about life and death, but for weeks now we’re only hearing about cases.
Kit Knightly
Do you remember five months ago? Normally I wouldn’t ask, but the world is moving incredibly fast these days.
Do you remember that it was predicted that covid19 would kill literally millions of people?
Do you remember that hospitals were going to be over-run with patients and our struggling medical infrastructure was going to collapse under their weight?
Do you remember that locking down global society was the only way to prevent this disaster? That we had to do it, regardless of how much damage it did to the livelihoods and security of countless millions of people?
Final question – do you know how many people in the United Kingdom officially died with (not of) the coronavirus yesterday?
It’s 12.
Twelve people. You probably didn’t hear about that, because sometime in the last five weeks or so the media completely stopped using the word “deaths”, and started talking only about “cases”.
A “case” is anyone who tests positive for Sars-Cov-2, using the notoriously unreliable PCR tests which produce huge numbers of false positives.
Even supposing the positive test is real, the vast majority of “cases” are asymptomatic. Between false positives, unreliable tests and asymptomatic infection, a “case” count for sars-cov-2 is borderline meaningless.
Let’s say there are symptoms AND a positive test, and assume they’re not just a false positive who has a cold or the flu. Well, even the vast majority of the “symptomatic cases” will only ever be mildly ill. In fact of the 6 million active cases in the world, only 1% are considered severely ill. The majority of them will survive.
The CDC estimates the infection fatality ratio of Sars-Cov-2 to be about 0.26%. A number perfectly in line with severe flu seasons. Virtually every country in Europe is now reporting average, or even below average, mortality.
Broadly speaking, the vast majority of the world is, and will likely remain, absolutely fine.
But things aren’t going back to normal, are they? In fact, they are getting worse. The governments have got their foot in the door, and they have no intention of moving it.
Masks are now mandatory in the UK, and Australia, and New Zealand, and Germany and France. And many others. The Democrat’s nominee for President, Joe Biden, has said they should be mandatory in the US as well.
There’s talk of “local lockdown” in Birmingham, because of a “sudden increase in cases”, but we get no details on what the numbers are, or if that’s translating into any kind of illness, let alone deaths.
The same for Oldham, which is on the brink of a “catastrophic lockdown” thanks to its infection rate of 83 people per 100,000. (Oldham has a population of about 250,000, so that’s about 200 cases.)
Actually, over the last week the UK’s covid death count has reduced by over 5000, thanks to a review which removed duplicates and mistakes (which OffG predicted would happen months ago). The case count is bloated by at least 30,000 duplicates too.
In New Zealand, the patron saint of coronavirus Jacinda Ardern has just postponed next months general election. It’s only a month, for now. But what if there’s a “second wave” in October and they have to postpone it again? Regardless, the precedent is set.
New Zealand has had 1600 cases, total, in 5 months. They haven’t had a reported death since May. But their country is on lockdown and their democracy on hold.
Oh, and they’re shipping positive tests (and their families) off to “quarantine centres”, where if you refuse to be tested, you will be detained indefinitely.
Australia is locking down cities, even imposing curfews, based on 450 deaths.
Every day there are more and more articles discussing the need for mandatory vaccination, or something even worse.
And everywhere the language is changing. “The New Normal” was about beating Covid19, but now it’s about “covid19 and future pandemics”, or the “other colossal challenges facing humanity”….which can mean literally anything they want it to mean.
All this is based on the ever-increasing number of cases, without any reference to the fact deaths are falling.
All the way through those of us calling for a measured, proportional response were abused or ignored. The numbers have shown we were right, but that doesn’t matter now. They scared people into giving them the power, then they set the precedent for using that power, and there’s no reason to think they will ever stop.
It used to be about “deaths”, now it’s about “cases”. It used to be about coronavirus, next time it will be about something else.
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No references? When you get Reuters or AP to accept your news I’ll read it. This is fiction.
the virus comes from within a human – caused by the natural immune response of us pushing out poison (virus latin meaning) so there is no “virus” and the PCR test results show out very own DNA! They will target our DNA in the vaccine in order to give us some very nasty disease.
John Manning is right. To say there has been no new illness over the last few months is to deny the word of our own nurses and doctors who described symptoms they found puzzling and for which they had no remedy. While I disbelieve anything that comes out of WHO, the Gates Foundation, Neil Ferguson, the BBC or even sadly Channel 4, I believe the word of our own NHS staff who dealt with the illness directly. The lies in the media (and there are many) are all motivated by the commercial interests of vaccine manufacturers.I cannot think of anything more immoral than giving a vaccine to children for whom the disease is almost entirely harmless. Our money should be spent on research into two things. Finding out why some people are so badly affected. Two, finding treatments for those people to avoid them having to go onto artificial respirators.… Read more »
Susan, can you let us know what those puzzling symptoms are? I list the symptoms shown by the CDC website below. Were they symptoms other than these and if the puzzling symptoms include these symptoms why are they so puzzling? Could it be that doctors and nurses are puzzled by symptoms because people are getting diagnosed with COVID-19 when, in fact, they are suffering from different illnesses that have different symptoms and thus the symptoms for the alleged COVID-19 lack consistency? People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19: Fever or chills Cough Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing Fatigue Muscle or body aches Headache New loss of taste or smell Sore throat Congestion or runny nose Nausea or vomiting Diarrhea This list does not… Read more »
Hello Petra, Briefly I can only repeat what I said in my previous reply. I trust that the doctors and nurses in the UK and in Italy had not lost their mental faculties when they described a situation of patients coming into their hospitals with symptoms that did not fit illnesses they had previously encountered. To give just one example, patients suffering from very low levels of oxygen in their blood (hypoxia) but not breathless, not red in the face but blue unlike pneumonia patients. I am not a doctor or a scientist but I have a good antennae for BS. I always look for motivation and past form. Therefore I do not trust Neil Ferguson because he not only has conflicts of interest in his current position but was one of the doctors implicated in the H1N1 scandal in 2009, when governments spent millions on a vaccine that was… Read more »
Hi Susan, I looked up “hypoxia” and “pollution” and found this: Hypoxia occurs most often, however, as a consequence of human-induced factors, especially nutrient pollution (also known as eutrophication). The causes of nutrient pollution, specifically of nitrogen and phosphorus nutrients, include agricultural runoff, fossil-fuel burning, and wastewater treatment effluent. As David Icke points out Wuhan and Northern Italy have huge air pollution problems causing respiratory problems – and so we can see why those places were chosen to launch their pandemic. https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/europe/italy/pollution-other-health-hazards-in-italy This “pandemic” shows all the classic signs of being a Psychological Operation (psyop) and they are simply fudging figures about carers dying. A lot of carers are old themselves and sometimes die before the person they’re caring for. It’s easy to fudge figures. We must choose the hypothesis that best fits the evidence. Psyop with its classic hallmarks of clue giveaways such as an allegedly infected patient coughing… Read more »
Hello Petra, You put into a search engine “hypoxia” and “pollution” and you find that pollution is the main cause of hypoxia. If I put “pigs” and “fly” into a search engine, it will tell me that “pigs can fly”. If you start from the premise that evil people want to end humanity, and have deliberately released this disease onto an unsuspecting world, then you will find all the evidence to back it up. There is a world of difference between a virus being released deliberately on the world and the accidental release of a virus from a lab. Dr Anthony Fauci conducted “gain of function” research for years in the US, before 200 other scientists signed a petition saying his work was dangerous and needed to be stopped. It is THIS story that the public need to hear. I do not have the space or time to explain what… Read more »
I’m afraid, Susan, that I believe the material about viruses being released is all distraction propaganda.
The science says there is no evidence of a virus.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless
If you have any clear evidence of what you believe please give me a link to it.
Just to add: if hypoxia is a symptom they detected early in Northern Italy why isn’t it listed on the CDC webpage? There’s an anomaly in the story everywhere you turn.
Even supposing the positive test is real, there is no definitively identified and isolated “novel” corona virus proven to cause a new contagious disease. The PCR test is a reasearch tool, not developed for medical diagnoses and is identifying a fragment of a genetic sequence which WHO-funded scientists have decided using computer modeling is the identifier for a “novel” coronavirus. There is no empirical data to back up this hypothesis. it is simply a convenient scenario for the invention of a disease for which we have no immunity and must be quarantined until a vaccine is developed, in a global takeover of human society by the medical/ technological establishment. It is the same scam as ant-virus software for your computer- a protection racket, and this time it’s your life. You need constant “updates ” ie vaccines to keep out the cosntant threat of viruses, in a permanent “security alert” situation.… Read more »
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There are many interesting aspects to the Covid19 pandemic and this author seems to have missed all of them by treating the issue as some sort of conspiracy. Corona virus caused SARS is a real disease that has caused three epidemics in the last 18 years. Each epidemic worse than the previous. The corona virus has changed from one of the infections causing the common cold to an infection causing acute viral pneumonia. The Covid19 strain appears to be more contagious and more persistent than the earlier MERS and SARS (2002) strains. If the virus continues to show strain variability then vaccines will not be fully effective. Just as the influenza vaccine is not. It may simply be that for some time the human species has to go back to being subject to infectious disease deaths as a normal part of life. As it was 90 years ago before antibiotics… Read more »
THERE IS NO PANDEMIC
Too right. No pandemic, no illness, no “special” virus, no nothing.
It’s the Emperor’s New Clothes par excellence.
You’re just spouting what they’ve told us, John. The evidence speaks against these three episodes, notably the clearly fraudulent science.
It’s all made up stories designed to instil terror in order to control us better with whatever their agendas are.
The very well-researched article below provides very good reason not to believe in the virus apart from so much other evidence.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/
And the utterly pathetic alleged debunking of it by PolitiFact – what a complete joke of a site – further supports its claims.
I have written a post, Debunking the Debunkers: PCR Tests Scientifically Meaningless exposing the ludicrousness of the alleged debunking.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/debunking-the-debunkers-pcr-tests-scientifically-meaningless
The weaknesses of PCR testing as an analytical tool are well known to me. It has always troubled me that it is used in forensic science as legal evidence. That does not mean that SARS caused by corona viruses does not exist. I am a retired biochemist who began his career making virus vaccines so I am aware of the science of corona viruses and not simply repeating the claims of others. One of the mistakes being made by many when considering the covid19 question is a failure to recognize that all viruses come as a mixture of strains. Within the covid19 group there are 5 separate strains already identified and this probably accounts for the varying virulence seen in different areas. It also seriously compromises RNA analysis (the PCR test) as a means of diagnosing infection. That does not mean corona viruses are not involved, just that the wrong… Read more »
John you just seem to be taking the science for granted here. For example, you say:
But where is the evidence for this claim? The article, COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless, says that there is no evidence of the virus having been isolated and therefore there is no evidence of 5 strains or otherwise. Do you have an argument with what the article says?
The basis for misunderstanding about the PCR test is believing PCR is a test. The Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a method used to make copies of DNA or RNA so that there is enough of a sample to map the nucleotide sequence of the DNA/RNA. It will be obvious to anyone that manufacturing your sample in a laboratory is a risky process for any analysis. The more times the PCR process is used the greater the risk. That is what your quoted article is saying. The actual determination of a nucleotide sequence is a separate matter. It does not rely on the PCR. The virus can be grown in cell cultures to get enough sample for nucleotide analysis. PCR is the quick lazy way of doing the job. The argument in its favour is by not growing the virus in culture you are not influencing the strain of virus… Read more »
I thought only bacteria were grown in cell culture but if virus were to be grown how do they first determine that what they are growing is the virus?
Can you please point to a paper where what you believe the correct process to determine the strains of COVID-19 has been done?
Petra you are going around in circles here. The analytical purpose for growing viruses in cell cultures is to get enough of the virus to do an identity test. If you know what it is before hand then there is no need to grow the virus. Cell culture production of viruses has been routinely carried out for vaccine production since the early 1970’s. That was when I began my career in virology. The process is to grow a layer of cells from a suitable mammalian source (monkey kidney cells are commonly used) and then infect them with the chosen virus which then replicates in the cell layer. In my reading (all internet basd) I have not been collecting references so I cannot direct you to a specific paper. I have been describing to you, conventional means of producing and testing viruses. Antibody testing has been routinely used since the 1980’s.… Read more »
… and then infect them with the chosen virus which then replicates in the cell layer … The question is about obtaining the “chosen virus”, John. The authors of the article show that there is no evidence of the “chosen virus” having been purified in order for any further manipulations to be done. I post from their article below. Do you have any argument with their argument? NO PROOF FOR THE RNA BEING OF VIRAL ORIGINNow the question is: What is required first for virus isolation/proof? We need to know where the RNA for which the PCR tests are calibrated comes from. As textbooks (e.g., White/Fenner. Medical Virology, 1986, p. 9) as well as leading virus researchers such as Luc Montagnier or Dominic Dwyer state, particle purification — i.e. the separation of an object from everything else that is not that object, as for instance Nobel laureate Marie Curie purified 100… Read more »
I agree that certainty about RNA origins is a problem when using PCR processes for analysis. That has always been my concern about its use in forensic science. Despite that there is another body of information that provides some assurance when analysing viruses using nucleotide sequences. That is the historical knowledge of “normal” nucleotide sequences for a virus. Virus strains have for the majority of their RNA/DNA the same nucleotide sequence. The variations occur in over segments of the nucleotide string. Consequently if you see a nucleotide sequence that is 95% corona virus and 5% something new and you are analysing a sample which has been separated by methods normally used to extract viruses then there is a probability that you have a corona virus sequence in front of you. All biological analysis involves these sorts of probabilities. Certainties are rare events in biology. Tests are usually considered satisfactory if… Read more »
That’s fine, John. What I say is that there is a lot of non-scientific evidence that supports the hypothesis of no COVID-19 so combined with lack of clear evidence from scientific papers that a virus
1. has been isolated
2. is causing illness
the only sensible thing to do is plump for the no virus hypothesis.
There is ample evidence supporting the no-virus hypothesis and none against it while there is not clear evidence supporting the pandemic/illness/virus hypothesis and a great deal against it.
“l went to the doctor today and asked him how long this “virus” would last. “How should I know, I am not a politician!”, he answered.”
“l know a good Covid joke, but 99.94% of you won’t get it!”
Masks are not mandatory in NZ, not in Australia unless you live within the state of Victoria. Need to get your facts right honey.
THE AUTHOR IS DEAD WRONG ON THE THIS SWITCH AS WELL. THE MSM’S LEAD EVERY NIGHT WITH THE DEATH COUNT AT 175,000 NOW. AND THE CASES ARE PRESENTED AS BEING SICK NOT JUST WITH THE VIRUS FROM A TEST. 99% OF CASE NEVER GET SICK. ITS A LIE TO CALL THEM CASES. AND THE MASK IS THE SAME AS THE NAZIS USED THE STAR FOR. TO IDENTIFY YOU AS AN OBEISANT.I DON’T CARE WITHER THE ”ADL” LIKES THAT COMPARISON OR NOT.
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My guess is that “all about cases, not deaths and hospitalisation” means they’re winding it down and just as Trump said:
I had a chuckle when I googled this quote and found it on this page:
Trump’s 7 worst statements on the coronavirus outbreakhttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21176535/trumps-worst-statements-coronavirus
Petra, please get your act together. You are not meant to chuckle at any of this COVID stuff, the power elite is. For God’s sake, stick to the script we asked you to write or it may be necessary to withhold some of your current period’s payment.
Disinformation.
Well spotted. Humourless twat.
VOX is one of the worse cesspools of fear mongering.
The Covid-19 HOAX This file lists 40,132 Covid-19 RNA sequences and their mutations. http://preearth.net/pdfs/ids-cdate-sdate-name-country-mutations.txt The Covid-19 HOAX can be seen in the way Covid-19 spread. It spread to the whole world but jumped over the major Chinese cities. You know Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, etc. On March 16, about 2 months after the lockdown, Beijing Municipality had only 442 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 20 million), Shanghai Municipality had only 353 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 23 million), Guangdong Province had only 1,357 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 104 million), Hong Kong Region had only 141 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 7 million). Get that… it didn’t appreciably spread (before or after the Wuhan lockdown) to any of the major Chinese cities. But there was a tremendous spread of the disease (before the Wuhan lockdown) to Iran and Italy. How’s that? The Washington Post reported that 5 million people… Read more »
Thanks for that John7. I will add your information to my page, Coronavirus, “live” exercise
Just one of the numerous pieces of evidence loudly proclaiming hoax, there is no virus and HCQ, ludicrous numbers and other anomalies, masks, lockdown, hand sanitising, etc are just all propaganda streams to manipulate people into jumping up and down … so terribly ineffectually.
Only the truth shall set you free, not half-truth. Half-truths make great lies.
“there is no virus”
There is a virus, To many different people have sequenced the virus for it to be a complete hoax.
The very well-researched article below provides very good reason not to believe in the virus.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/
And the utterly pathetic alleged debunking of it by PolitiFact – what a complete joke of a site – further supports its claims.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/07/blog-posting/covid-19-tests-are-not-scientifically-meaningless/
Sequencing a “virus” is not the same as isolating it. The genetic material that is sequenced could have come from anywhere.
This is where most become confused. “Sequencing” means nothing of importance. Without having been isolated, it simply doesn’t exist.
Yes, I thought so.
Nobody has isolated a “novel” coronavirus and shown it makes people sick. That’s what matters, not computer models.
The reason there are so few cases in equatorial Africa is malaria. The treatment for malaria is……. Hydroxycloroquine and closely related drugs…… that are prophylactic and curative for Covid19. So fewer people get sick, they have milder cases, and seldom die.
The numbers are completely arbitrary in every location in the globe because there is no special virus. It’s all made up and they just push out numbers as they please. The complete illogicality of the numbers makes that quite clear.
This is my case for no virus. If you believe there is a special virus what is your evidence?
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020
That’s an interesting thought.
Maybe the people spreading the virus forgot about Africa for a while.
It is called lying. As in the lying Communist government of mainland China. They are not telling the truth. They do not care about their people.
Then there is the outrageous over-reporting of illness and death whether from or “with” Covid19.
Don’t tell me there is not a new flu. I had a very mild case back in January. I know it is real and unlike any illness I have had in my 70 years. I am very healthy and seldom get sick. But Covid19 is real.
What the “experts” are doing is different than making it up, but even worse than what you are suggesting.
Good catch on China. If you look up COVID19 deaths per capita, China is down at the very bottom (with all the African countries) at 3.38 deaths per million. Belgium and the UK are near the top with 873 and 623 respectively. Logically, this should simply not be possible. Even if you resort to the usual argument that “China is a police state and can shut down whatever they like” (which is true), it’s not possible to create an airtight lockdown. Besides, air travel in and out of China afterwards should have created some spread. You may say China lies – and it’s possible, but I don’t really think it would be possible to cover up a massive outbreak in say Beijing. So, what we are left with is the totally implausible situation that the country where this supposedly originated, which is one of the most populous countries on earth,… Read more »
“If you look up COVID19 deaths per capita, China is down at the very bottom (with all the African countries) at 3.38 deaths per million. Belgium and the UK are near the top with 873 and 623 respectively. Logically, this should simply not be possible.”
There are different strains of the virus.
The Wuhan strain has essentially died out.
A Euro-American strain is now 75% of all sequences. This strain is very uncommon in East Asia.
This probably explains why the disease acted differently in East Asia and the West.
The Euro-American strain carries (at least) four differences from the Wuhan strain.
They are 241T, C3037T, C14408T, and A23403G.
These four are always found as a group (which is very suspicious).
If a country that is sanctioning your economy starts gutting its own, what would you do?
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Whether it’s true or not, I believe keeping it as separate information from this fake pandemic. The main point is there is no special virus and they will feed us all kinds of things to keep our minds occupied, true or not. All COVID-19-ascribed illness and death is due to other causes. That is the clear truth that needs to be pushed and kept in mind at all times regardless of any other claims that may be true or not but serve as distraction. Hitler said “Make the lie big, keep it simple, keep saying it and eventually they will believe it”. However, I don’t think this is entirely true. When you’re pushing the lie to the masses perhaps that’s the style but when you’re pushing to the skeptics it’s all about multiple propaganda threads to distract from the simple truth. All the propaganda to the skeptics is designed to hide the simple truth that… Read more »
Yesterday I posted a claim that the corona virus was PATENTED years ago, as well as its test kit. The guy who claimed this really is a patent specialist & heavy hitter: “Dr. David Martin is the founding CEO of M∙CAM Inc. M∙CAM is the international leader in intellectual property-based financial risk management. From auditing patent quality for governments and patent offices, to providing state-of-the-art actuarial risk management systems and solutions to the largest banks and insurance companies, M∙CAM has established a global standard in patent quality and commercial validity assessment and management. A spokesperson for global intellectual property accountability and quality reform, Dr. Martin has worked closely with the United States Congress, numerous trade and finance regulatory agencies in the United States, Europe and Asia. . . .” He says, “I am the inventor of linguistic genomics. . . In 1999 IBM digitized 1 million US patents [and therefore… Read more »
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I have a riddle I don’t understand. I assumed Wuhan lab to be owned by Chinese govt. But Wall St J: “NIH Demands US-Based Research Group Hand Over Wuhan Lab Records. ” If they want to continue to be funded through a suspended research grant connected to the Wuhan Virology Lab, then EcoHealth Alliance must turn over their records to the National Institutes of Health. The Wall Street Journal broke with the news early in the morning of August 19, 2020, that the NIH wants “a sample of the new coronavirus that the Wuhan researchers used to determine its genetic sequence,” along with study details and other information. The NIH is also demanding that EcoHealth “arrange for an inspection of the Wuhan Institute of Virology by an outside team that would examine the facility’s lab and records ‘with specific attention to addressing the question of whether WIV staff had SARS-CoV-2 in their possession… Read more »
They want a sample of something that does not exist, so a sample will have to be made. Applied Science 101. “EcoHealth” sounds perfectly fake!
What a ridiculous hysterical article this one is. So all the politicians of all the countries in the world many of them with children and nieces and nephews etc are conniving to get us all to wear masks forevermore, for what reason that benefits them, God only knows, all as part of some evil conspiracy to drug us all and make us all compliant robots or something LOL. Or alternatively they know their history and what happened with the Spanish flu and how it went from relatively harmless to devastatingly deadly, killing millions of young people in the prime of their life.
Who knows why they’re conniving to get us all to wear masks but there’s definitely a conspiracy because there is zero evidence of a special virus causing illness and death. All illness and death can be ascribed to what it’s always been caused by and COVID is a complete figment.
The evidence of scientific fraud is simply breathtaking.
See my comment below:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/18/bait-switch-how-theyve-changed-the-covid-conversation/#comment-224941
If you have a single skerrick of evidence that says that any illness or death has been caused by the alleged COVID-19 and is not a result of another cause, please tell me what it is, Mac, and if you don’t then I’d ask you to question the story media and government are telling us.
“Make us all compliant robots”
Close. Eugenics through gene editing. Use the phony virus scare to drum up support for mandatory, gene manipulating vaccines.
They don’t know jack, and neither do you, Mac.
I noticed a while ago that ICNARC stopped producing weekly reports of people being admitted to intensive care in England, Wales and N.Ireland who have tested positive for Covid19. Is it because the numbers are simply getting too low to justify weekly updates? The last report on 31st July identified just 35 new admissions over the previous 2 weeks. That’s an average of 17.5 admissions per week! See figure 3 for the distribution of intensive care admissions across different parts of the uk. The numbers are surprisingly low.
https://www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/42ceb4d2-3dd3-ea11-9128-00505601089b
There is no evidence of a special virus in the first place so the figures are utter nonsense no matter which way they’ve gone – up, down or round and round.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020
YES, the numbers are getting too low to support the hysterical over-hyping of this pretty ordinary flu bug. The one peculiarity of this bug is the relative immunity of everyone under 55. The vast majority of deaths are people over 80. Deaths of infants and young children are statistically 0%. Most illnesses are worst for the very young and the elderly. This illness is different.
I live in New Zealand. Masks are not currently mandatory in NZ – otherwise a good article.
Well you will have very few covid19 cases because the New Zealand has the highest rate of skin cancers on the planet due to the high intensity UV light.The virus does not like UV.
I’ve just figured out why Melbourne has a curfew and stricter lockdowns.
It will be the first western city to have Chinese style mass surveillance and social credit.
I believe its been chosen, this explains why china has put $1.2 trillion into Victorian infrastructure they say for Belt and Road.
When you accept this it comes with the social credit system.
Masks are now mandatory in businesses in Ontario, or at least the Great Toronto Area…
Hysterical! Masks cannot stop the spread of viruses. They are too small and will pass through any mask that can be breathed through.
As for why, what is the response to mask wearing? For me, breathing through the mouth resulting in dry mouth. This causes gum diseases and tooth cavities. It increases my pulse rate, blood pressure and makes me depressed. I do not want to interact with masked people. It looks like people are ashamed of their faces or are up to no good. This is irrational, but then masking for a viral epidemic is irrational.
In other words, mandating masks is about controlling people. Not about controlling any disease.
You need to stop with the “They are too small and will pass through any mask that can be breathed through”. This doesn’t work.
The reasoning of the mask cult is that the masks will trap tiny water droplets that come out of your mouth and which may be carrying the virus, not that the virus is free-floating in the air.
So, they believe that they wear the mask to protect others, not themselves, which is why the cult is so successful. This is virtue signaling jumping from the internet into real life and is a direct result of a decade of “social” media cultural rot.
“Stay safe ! ” they type on their fakebook accounts, alongside masked emojis…
“You need to stop with the “They are too small and will pass through any mask that can be breathed through”. This doesn’t work.”
Pray tell, doesn’t work for what? Is this the place to try to educate the ignoramuses that you are telling me about?
I didn’t think so.
There is no evidence of a special virus in the first place so the wearing of masks or not is not a question. It’s just a method to control and engage us when we should simply be calling out “Hoax, hoax, hoax, hoax, hoax.”
If you have a single skerrick of evidence that says that any illness or death has been caused by the alleged COVID-19 and is not a result of another cause, please tell me what it is, Kevin, and if you don’t then I’d ask you to question the story media and government are telling us.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020
Sorry Kevin, downvote was accidental!
It just happens that this disease is still potentially deadly, and about 1% of cases eventually turn into deaths. Sure, the number of cases right now is low. And if people start relaxing, then the number of cases will soon be high, because with no restrictions at all, cases double roughly every three days. And you know how quickly doubling goes: 16, 32, 64… and very soon you’re talking thousands and millions. So yeah, if you are a teenager that thinks that two months time is an eternity and don’t have the maturity to appreciate it isn’t, go for it. Ignore all the rules and show you don’t belong in the world of adults that actually think about the future, rather than needing instant gratification in the present. Surely waiting six months for a vaccine is beyond intolerable. You have to have all your whims satisfied right now. But if… Read more »
bullshit
No you are Bullshit.Wait until you are coughing up blood.
Kindly fork off back to the Guardian and take your passive aggressive diseased excrement with you.
I can see you don`t work for the NHS,You are just a idiot without conscious awareness.
Hey troll, show us facts to the contrary, otherwise your opinion is simply that, the product of an infantile mind.
Doly you are a sheeple; maybe you are actually Dolly the first cloned sheep.
You are a couple of months late with your hysteria. Herd immunity is well advanced. This will go the way of the swine flu shortly.
Keep yelling, child. Maybe your mother will hear you and give you an ice cream to shut you up.
How did you arrive at this site Doly?
Since February OffG has produced numerous articles that demonstrate quite effectively that the Covid 19 is an international scam that has caused a massive groundswell of revolt and dissent among many who frequent this place.
If you journey through the OffG archives you will see what I mean.
You may also see how hundreds of comments have altered the tone from mild but cautious disbelief into outright posturings of justifiable rage.
Please read up and see for yourself.
There is no C19.
They don’t even need to pay these drones to post this stuff here.
The Covid-19 HOAX This file lists 40,132 Covid-19 sequences and their mutations. http://preearth.net/pdfs/ids-cdate-sdate-name-country-mutations.txt The Covid-19 HOAX can be seen in the way Covid-19 spread. It spread to the whole world but jumped over the major Chinese cities. You know Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, etc. On March 16, about 2 months after the lockdown, Beijing Municipality had only 442 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 20 million), Shanghai Municipality had only 353 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 23 million), Guangdong Province had only 1,357 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 104 million), Hong Kong Region had only 141 confirmed cases of Covid-19 (population 7 million). Get that… it didn’t appreciably spread (before or after the Wuhan lockdown) to any of the major Chinese cities. But there was a tremendous spread of the disease (before the Wuhan lockdown) to Iran and Italy. How’s that? The Washington Post reported that 5 million people left… Read more »
Funny, just made a comment about this being article censored on twitter, now its disappeared from here… I think the singularity is here and it doesn’t like me 🙂
Great article. Concise and convincing. Good for tormenting Covid believers with.
What’s important to keep in mind is that the power elite have no desire or need to keep their story in the least little bit coherent. Power isn’t about rationality and coherence. It’s about the opposite, in fact. They like exercising their privilege to be as irrational and incoherent as they possibly can. They know that everyone will bleat about this that and the other wrong with their story … but what will happen about it? Zero … because power doesn’t work like that. What’s of vital importance is to recognise the actual truth. It must be the actual truth NOT oh-there’s-a-virus-but-the-figures-don’t-add-up-and-the-response-is-inappropriate complete and utter bullshit. The critical attitude of oh-there’s-a-virus-but-the-figures-don’t-add-up-and-the-response-is-inappropriate complete and utter bullshit will achieve nothing. The difference between the truth and the big fat lie that there is a virus-but-figures-don’t-add-up,etc is monumental and we know this because the perps spend millions on smothering the simple truth with… Read more »
Good summary.
Most apropos! Playing the whack-a-narrative game inherently relinquishes control to the perps. Basically boiling down to “I told ya so” and some moralizing about things of little import. Playing right into the divide and conquer tactic. All while paying no attention to the biggest ongoing fraud ever perpetrated, what appears to be mass homicide by the state and covert coup d’état of many governmnets from around the world. In this light its hard not to think of OffG as yet another layer of controlled opposition.
That said, I have also come to realize this intersection is where harder questions surface. Where one needs to confront what they truly believe and what they are prepared to do to protect those beliefs.
Love it Lui!
And just to add. This is quite hilarious. I found an article in PolitiFact debunking – I use the word very loosely – the article mentioned above. “There are no distinctive specific symptoms for COVID-19.” The CDC says otherwise. This is what the CDC says: People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19: Fever or chills Cough Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing Fatigue Muscle or body aches Headache New loss of taste or smell Sore throat Congestion or runny nose Nausea or vomiting Diarrhea This list does not include all possible symptoms. CDC will continue to update this list as we learn more about COVID-19. Comment: Not specified but obviously what is understood is that they may have some of the symptoms. Choose any cluster… Read more »
These are radiation sickness symptoms.
Also at play here is that for 150 years we have been told that the flu and colds are caused by external critters called viruses. The fact that no virus has ever been isolated from human tissue doesn’t seem to bother anyone. It is truth because that is what we have been told. It is a very powerful delusion. The fact that there are a myriad of other possible causes for these ailments is not considered. “I had it, it was terrible, so it must be a virus.” That people still use that one is inexcusable. The question, “what if a virus is an immune response” is never asked because, well, everyone knows a virus causes illness, right?
The fact that no virus has ever been isolated from human tissue doesn’t seem to bother anyone. A very good point. Oh but what about SARS 2003, MERS, Zika, Ebola …? I think we know the answer. We see strange omissions of reference to isolation of virus from alleged source of SARS-CoV-2, for example, from a “German traveller” in paper, Comparative pathogenesis of COVID-19, MERS and SARS in a non-human primate model and there is also a glaring omission of reference to isolation of virus from alleged source, a “fatal SARS case”, in a “brief communication” published by Nature on the 2003 SARS, Koch’s postulates fulfilled for SARS virus. I don’t go down the virus is an immune response path because I like to keep it as simple as possible and minimise possibility of debate. There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19 is good enough but the virus being an immune response may well… Read more »
Yes, I was thinking that every time I watch Al Jazeera, RT news or CNA (Channel News Asia from Singapore). All about cases, not deaths or hospitalisations.
Certain areas of the world do have overworked hospitals, but here in Thailand we’ve had 58 dead. We lose more people per week in road accidents…
I assume almost the whole population have been, or eventually will be, exposed to this virus.
100% of 68 million. 58 dead.
Infection can only be proved in any country by testing everyone!
I thought last year they’d retired this malfunctioning 5-Eyes PsyOps Agent #MI7-008 ?
Some of those 12 people that did die probably didn’t die of Covid19 either. You can leave hospital after testing positive and if you die of something else within 28 days your death is still counted as a Covid case. A complete con job!
As of yet, nobody has died OF Covid-19, just WITH it
Yeah, I read that. Public Health England majorly cocked-up the stats a little while, but the 28 day thing doesn’t seem that great.
Andy B – Yes, even now after changing the rules. It’s still a fraud. You should only be counted as a Covid death if you have died of the virus and nothing else.
‘Bait-&-Switch […] Do you remember five months ago? […] It used to be about “deaths”, now it’s about “cases”. It used to be about coronavirus, next time it will be about something else.’ Lockdown TV, April 26 2020, Interview with Professor Neil Ferguson: In the first few (about 40) seconds into his opening remarks in response to the interviewer’s opening question re Sweden and after first noting that Sweden’s voluntary social distancing policy had–he estimated–reduced the infectivity rate (R0 reproduction number) from about 3 to about 1.4 or 1.5–Ferguson first mentioned, immediately contiguously as ‘deaths and cases‘, with absolutely equal vocal weight and semantic emphasis on each of those words. Even the ordering of those two words, separated only by an ‘and’, was as or even more likely to have been pre-conditioned by the phrasing of the question rather than any prioritizing by Ferguson, whose epidemiological concern necessarily entails the… Read more »
“conspiracy addicts”?”tinfoiler”? Seems you have a few of your own
foregone conclusionstalking points.No foregone conclusions here George. Given the broad scope of the generally unquestioned structures of the ‘world order’ that COVID-19 has flushed out into plain man-in-the-street view, the possibility of a constitutionally questioning and frequently dissenting site/publication helping readers think through the various complex threads arising from what, for most people in the current five or six generations of the living (especially those who have experienced only the ‘long peace’ of the white, middle-class, western world) is probably the most traumatic public-health, socio-political and adverse economic event in their lives so far, had to be high. And, indeed, for the first few weeks the initial attention the Off-Guardian gave to it was valuable. However, what can only be described as the intellectual paucity underlying the direction and consequent narrowness of its ‘dissenting view’ has taken the value of its analysis as a contribution towards the basis of a workable plan… Read more »
Ever thought of applying as a script writer for Yes Minister, Robbo?
Not since Jim Hacker died of mycosis fungoides and Sir Humphrey of a heart attack after a rough period with pancreatic cancer. I’m not sure which part of that you thought was funny.
You do realise that Hacker and Humphrey aren’t real people?
Long before you have apparently just (see “aren’t” above) realized that Paul Eddiington died of a T-cell lymphoma and Nigel Hawthorne, ‘with’ pancreatic cancer but ‘of’ a heart attack
Given, from your posts, that you appear to be a pretty high class troll, doing a whole variety of accents from soundbite pseudo-Marxism to lumpen blasts on a dogwhistle in the gutter, one wonders if you’ve thought of seeking part time payment from Alcoa* to help you through these times of universal financial stress.
* or rich step-daddy
Well that’s your weirdest one yet Robbo. Also, your most aggressive. As I noted above, you have the most tortured prose style which I try to unravel and often fail to. But there is a superciliousness which I have noted in other loudly self-proclaimed Marxists (and which Marx himself would never have showed. His anger was always aimed at those who deserved it.) Furthermore, your reference to Yes Minister misunderstands what I meant – which was simply that your convoluted verbiage would be ideal for one of their scripts. As long as you toned down the spite which wouldn’t be right for a family comedy.
As it happens, Mark was renowned for showing his anger, both directed–in bruising political polemic, as you note–but also in a very broad general–for instance in the frequent barroom brawls he started during his weekly pub crawls with his friend Engels on their way from the British Museum, where they would meet, to Marx’s home in Camden. Do you make up your dollops of self-righteousness as you go along or do reuse ones you prepared earlier, like any good tv chef?
Don’t tempt me on the one-line dog-whistle aggressions you have chosen to put out in lieu of ‘discussion’–it would be too easy to make a collection for general perusal.
Your first paragraph is uncharacteristically intelligible. I actually don’t object to it. “self-righteousness” is good. Makes me feel kinda macho.
The second one seems to teeter on the brink of the usual hallucinatory haze. So with reference to that, yeah whatever.
You reckon you haven’t posted a bunch of one-line aggressions at those who, or whom you suppose to, disagree with your take on things, especially, COVID-19, or just that they’re good currency for baseless claims of productive discussion round here? Not that I don’t quite often do the same, but then I don’t pretend that I don’t or haven’t. Do you sleep walk or drunk talk by any chance?
Yeah whatever.
What on earth are you talking about?
You write well but you don’t say much…
Maybe your expectations need managing. The revolution / turnaround/ change won’t come out of any website or the internet in general.
“You write well but you don’t say much…” Thank you for the rare compliment. Most of youf fellow reviewers here say I write badly and say nothing. “The revolution / turnaround/ change won’t come out of any website or the internet in general.” [Adornments added] On the contrary, insight based on individual experience goes nowhere until it is mediated through increasingly widely communicated (Latin ‘communicat’–‘shared’) insight and experience (which only then may or may not be translated into successful social action, which only then may or may not result in successful socio-politico-economic change, which only then may be sustained, decayed by an increasing historical irrelevance in the light of ongoing individual experience or betrayed by accident or by contrary intent…). And, to back up a bit: “Maybe your expectations need managing.” Maybe your self-proclaimed insight into my expectations (and, by extension, the expectations of many others you know equally incompletely?)… Read more »
“You write well but you don’t say much” seems pretty close to a self-contradiction. I agree with second part.
They’re carting people off to isolation camps in New Zealand.
Contact tracing is already being used against protestors and activists.
Ferguson and his ties to pharma, Gates, security state apparatus and the NIH should be investigated.
The draconian measures that are being implemented are wholly based on fraud, racketeering and pseudoscience.
The isolation camps of which you speak are block-booked four-star hotels and the average stay is two weeks. Contract tracing information–at least in New Zealand–is not even being passed on to the Immigration service when it comes across visa over-stayers (rather as the US IRS didn’t pass on overstayer information to their immigration service–maybe still doesn’t, I haven’t checked).
Why are you seeking to discredit this publication in that scatter-gun bullshit sort of way?
You’re blatantly dishonest and disinformed.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-zealand-forcing-covid-19-patients-into-quarantine-camps-health-chief-announces
You posted: “They’re carting people off to isolation camps in New Zealand.” and I replied: “The isolation camps of which you speak are block-booked four-star hotels and the average stay is two weeks. The 'Life News' link you provided says itself: The facilities themselves consist of 32 hotels across the country, with Auckland alone having 19. Meals are delivered to residents’ rooms. Regulations for movement outside individual rooms vary from location to location, but require face masks and, in turn, links through to a list of the 32 hotels hosting New Zealand’s ‘[quarantine] facilities’ (not ‘[isolation] camps’. The Accor Hotel Group (Ibis, Novotel, Sebel, Grande Mercure, Pullman, etc), IHG (Holiday Inn, Crowne Plaza, etc), Marriott (Four Points/Sheraton, etc) run ‘camps’? Yeah, right. As for ‘quarantine facilities’, they’re part of border biosecurity services in countries all over the world. Some of them–for humans, especially in ‘developing’ countries–might well be ‘camps’, others–for… Read more »
The non-functioning ‘quarantine‘ link above is here.
You posted: “They’re carting people off to isolation camps in New Zealand.” and I replied: “The isolation camps of which you speak are block-booked four-star hotels and the average stay is two weeks. The 'Life News' link you provided says itself: The facilities themselves consist of 32 hotels across the country, with Auckland alone having 19. Meals are delivered to residents’ rooms. Regulations for movement outside individual rooms vary from location to location, but require face masks and, in turn, links through to a list of the 32 hotels hosting New Zealand’s ‘[quarantine] facilities’ (not ‘[isolation] camps’). The Accor Hotel Group (Ibis, Novotel, Sebel, Grande Mercure, Pullman, etc), IHG (Holiday Inn, Crowne Plaza, etc), Marriott (Four Points/Sheraton, etc) run ‘camps’? Yeah, right. As for ‘quarantine facilities’, they’re part of border biosecurity services in countries all over the world. Some of them–for humans, especially in ‘developing’ countries–might well be ‘camps’, others–for… Read more »
Accidental double post. I got isontined by the BTL comment ‘Edit’ function following a false positive from my browser.
Looking for info on financial connections between Gates Foundation and Neil Ferguson/Imperial College- whatever folks have would be appreciated.
I think this UKcolumn news coverage outlines some of the fundinghttps://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-15th-april-2020-imperial-college-bill-gates-connection
If thats not the one have a look at some of surrounding newsbites on this page
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news-archive?page=2
I know they covered it around that time
Are you absolutely sure you’re NaN?
Two downvotes? Don’t know what NaN is?
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/search#q/k=imperial%20college%20london
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/search#q/k=london%20school%20of%20hygiene%20and%20tropical%20medicine&sort=rec
Both organisations have more than one employee or affiliated individuals on the SAGE Committee.
Maxwell
Further to my earlier comment to you on this, I have since had another look at the Gates Foundation supported Imperial College projects and spotted this interesting one dating from November 2019:
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2019/11/INV-003863
Now, remind me, aside from the total funding connection between Gates and Imperial College, what evidence is there to suspect an implicit connection between Gates Foundation/Imperial College/ a coronavirus vaccine? Hmm. I wonder.
Well observed. One further point. The increase in cases is mostly due to the fact that when COVID-19 was claiming lives no testing was done. Now they have started testing the positives are not infectious people but those who have probably built up antibodies in previous months. In all likelihood there is going to be a forthcoming spike because the BBC announced this morning that home-testing kits are being sent out. Please!
Ard the differences between the lamentably ambiguous, usually incorrectly or incompletely-specified molecular, antigen or antibody “tests” for SARS-CoV-2 and/or its consequent illness still, after all this time, escaping you?
Is your ability to form one single sentence that isn’t mangled Jibberish, “escaping you“?
Not to the extent that your inability to parse anything more intricate than an upvote or downvote is, if we are to accept the implications of your post, absolutely not escaping you.
I have the same trouble as “Researcher”. Take this:
This is such a cumbersomely constructed formation that it took me a while to unravel and then I found out that it wasn’t worth it anyway. As far as I can make out, you are saying that the tests are crap. That doesn’t change the fact that they will give positives. Granted the positives will be unreliable. Which won’t stop the media from telling us about them anyway. Meanwhile John is saying that even if the results were reliable, it still wouldn’t indicate anything about the severity of the issue. And that’s it. Seems like a tortured way of doing what you always do i.e. tell us we’re all stupid.
“As far as I can make out, you are saying that the tests are crap.” No, that wasn’t what I was (trying to) say. I was saying something else. But don’t worry about it: don’t like my posts, hit [Next] (after an optional quick jab at the ‘down’ counter if you want). Haven’t got a [Next] button? Get a better computer or just scroll on by. “Seems like a tortured way of doing what you always do i.e. tell us we’re all stupid.” No. “All” is a big word, not often applicable in the real human world (not that one would easily see that intuitively from just a look around the world’s BTLs). Nor do I often tell anyone (out loud or silently) they’re stupid, mostly because very few people are. However, quite a lot of people–both On and Off the Guardian–are or have been stupified. Big difference. Being stupified… Read more »
Interesting. There’s that word “stupefied” again. So what is it then? The media has hypnotised everyone with a double bluff? The virus is being used but even the fact that it’s being used is part of the hypnosis?
“Stupified”? Well precedes SARS-CoV-2. That virus is a latecomer.
I remember when they started the lockdowns in many states is the USA (not sure about the UK) it was to “flatten the curve,” meaning so that the ICU’s didn’t get overwhelmed. They said it was only for 6 weeks. That’s a laugh. As to cases, most are built and the rt-PCR test. I am a chemistry major and have studied this intensively. 1) The insert on all the PCR (and antigen) tests in the USA read “not for diagnostic purposes.” Yet WHO, CDC, and FDA are using them exactly for that. The late inventor of PCR who won the 1993 Novel in chemistry fro that invention, Cari Mullis, stipulated that his invention should never be used for medical diagnosis as it is not suitable for quantitative biological analysis. It is basically a molecular photocopier machine which can rapidly turn a single strand of DNA into billions. 2) If one… Read more »
“Deception is a state of mind, and it is the mind of the State.”
— James Angleton, Chief of Counterintelligence CIA, 1950-1975
What did Kary have to say about primers, probes, molecular beacons, noise and qualitative analysis in said stipulation?
Spot on Sir.
Totally agree but I would leave out the questionable quote and the Nazis in general.. it’s tired.
Well… All Great and Successful operations start with awesome PROPAGANDA!
OPERATION COVID also had an awesome start!
it crept up and spread like a fog i’d say..
Can’t you discuss any other subject but your theory that the covid 19 pandemic is a conspiracy. As I have lived through the reality of it, I appeal to you to discuss so many other subjects and problems that trouble this world.
I’d love to change the subject. But unfortunately THIS topic relentlessly drowns out every other one on the mainstream media itself. Furthermore THIS topic continues to have the most devastating effect on everyone’s life every single second of the day.
So what goes on in the mainstream media is some sort of de rigueur template for goings on here? Katherine Viner will be right chuffed, but I expect that such flattery will get the Off-Guardian nowhere when it comes to the hardheads on the Scott Trust Limited board. Try again?
Well sure Robbo, we don’t have to talk about what goes on in the mainstream media. We could discuss what we all had for breakfast this morning. Or what we watched last night on Netflix.
Nothing wrong with talking about what’s going on in the main stream media. Not very clever to wallow in a state of being stupified by it.
Tell that to the WSWS.
“Nothing wrong with talking about what’s going on in the main stream media. Not very clever to wallow in a state of being stupified by it.” “Tell that to the WSWS” There you go again. As I recall, you were one of those several Off-Guardianistas who reported ‘seeing through’ the slavish adherence of the WSWS to the ‘mainstream narrative’ on this second ‘acid test’ of ‘true dissenters’ in our time (the first being, of course, 9/11) to doubt its bona fides sufficiently as to stop reading it regularly or at all. Yet for well over a quarter of a century the WSWS (with occasional pre-Internet pamphleteering from members of the particular ICFI split that spawned it) has clearly stated its position on the implications and politics of the outbreaks of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 and the various other communicable diseases that have caught its attention and it has been throughout both unvarying in… Read more »
First, it would help if you gave me a response that wasn’t almost a month late so I can still recall the topic.
Second, there YOU go again with the straw man language about acid tests and true dissenters. I abandoned the WSWS because of its one dimensional drone which, as I noted several times, seemed indistinguishable from that of the BBC.
And linking in 9/11 (“of course”!) highlights the real issue – reversal of the burden of proof whereby we are badgered into accepting what is being shoved down our throats since we don’t want to suffer the pariah status of being called a “denier”.
And I note that all that heroic stuff about being “unvarying” in outlook, simply presupposes the deadlines of the virus.
The rest of your post veers off into the unreadable. So- yeah whatever.
Dear Lynette
What troubles you more than the house arrest of 3/4 of the plant on a ruse?
i hope this response does not increase you salary as a paid shill.
Why don’t you share what the “reality of it ” was then?
“You probably didn’t hear about that, because sometime in the last five weeks or so the media completely stopped using the word “deaths”, and started talking only about “cases”. – no, actually, I did, the death figures were widely reported in the media today, you sick twisted individual
Here in Australia the media is now saying “active cases”, and sometimes “infected cases” or just “infections”.
Here in UK it’s mostly ‘cases’ .
Deaths from what?
Heart disease? Cancer? Diabetes? Pneumonia? Sepsis? Suicides? Old Age?
The “deaths” are simply numbers reported in the media that emanate from various government sources.
People die everyday but nobody died from SARS-COV-2.
Grey haired, no tied, blackrak Obama weighs in. HOPE! He screams. CHANGE! He lies again.
Are the USAsians dumb enough to let themselves be swindled again?
The dice are being cast. Let’s see.
DunGroanin, There’s NOBODY to vote for who wdn’t be a swindle.
See if you can get a visa to Lebanon. There’s a bunch of Lebanese looking for enthusiasts like you.
There is no PCR “test”. Don’t fall for this misnomer.
It is not a test it is a process.
According to the inventor of the process – Kary Mullis – ( who got a Nobel prize for his effort), it isn’t a test and shouldn’t be treated as such.
Furthermore, the antibody test cannot tell the difference between the common cold and c19 – which they haven’t even isolated yet…
You can’t get that through to the fuck-wits wearing the masks.
Aside from all the other health problems caused by breathing through cloth, it seems that wearing a mask also causes deafness.
Oh yes…
And stupidity…
Or are they pre-stupid?
That’s bad? I thought that not increasing their fuck-wittery load would be good.
People in London – please come to Trafalgar Square on Saturday, 29 August from 12pm to protest against covid shit show!! It’s the least we can do.
My local news is continuing with daily articles about side effects from Covid, since deaths are not happening in large enough numbers to incite the requisite terror. Today’s headline was: “Intermountain Healthcare research: Clear link between COVID-19 and heart disease”
The research methods are bad but it hardly matters to people who continue to push masks, delaying school openings, staying on lockdown till a vaccine, etc. It’s demoralizing.
I read a report today that analyses the post-covid never ending symptoms of 1500 people. There were probably 50 symptoms listed that align with any illness!
My favorite of late is “brain fog.” I see/hear it everywhere as a symptom of switching to a vegan diet, switching to a carnivore diet, stopping your crossfit regimen, or whatever fad du jour is up for debate. If you want people to fear something, tell them it will cause “brain fog.” On my local news website, all the commenters who have recovered from covid still feel that they have lingering “brain fog” months later.
Also my mother in law told me the other day that covid can cause baldness.
Oh yeah, bold men over 6ft are generally more susceptible 🤦🏼♀️
Haha that will be a headline over at ksl.com (my local news site) shortly I bet.
I’ve already seen it on bbc so it shouldn’t be long 😊
Cool, I’m 5’11” so will be safe.
Retroactively, too…
Brain fog is a most useful psyop since most of the people that lap up their propaganda are already suffering from it anyway.
Perfect match, for snake oil sales. Chaching.
Such ads are “How the West Was Won”.
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“Only among people whose minds have been weakened by a sort of mesmerism could so transparent a trick as that of advertising ever have been tried at all.”
~~ GKC, “What I Saw in America”, about a century ago
Yes, agreed. Brain fog implies that these people usually see clearly…
I will check that one out by GKC. “The Man Who Was Thursday” is one of my favorites.
Maybe brain fog will become the new “twinkie defense”.
“Your honor, I just found the gun in my hand and the body on the floor. But I had recently tested positive, so it’s all a (brain) fog….”
Baldness. That’s great! My 82 year old friend told me that it causes loss of smell.
Who ARE these people???
Kamayok. Yes, it does in some people cause a temporary loss of smell.
Brain fog is the default state for the majority staring at their phones, it seems.
Yes, like the economy and every aspect of our life.
It’s the covid.
Didnt graduate. Covid
Got fired. Covid
Stock market down Covid
Loved ones died alone Covid
I haven’t, don’t and never will refer to what’s going on as “covid” “corona” or “the virus”
I have, do and always will refer to what’s going on and the ramifications as “the lockdown”.
(with all due respect to people that did get sick with something that because of the state of their overall health lead to their demise)
I’m the same. I have never referred to it as covid or the virus. I say, “our current state of affairs” or something like that. Words matter and to use the word virus just confirms to people that there is actually a virus BUT THERE IS NOT EVEN A VIRUS!!!
Agreed – we were infected by lockdown fever and it extended to mask fever.
Vaccine fever is next and fear accompanies each fever.
And a “virus” didn’t lock down schools, libraries, hospitals, jobs, playgrounds, theaters, concerts, sports. And didn’t cause people to DIE ALONE in nursing homes and hospitals.
The big RE-SET did that.
The Wuhan scientists know there’s a virus, as they found and isolated it as long ago as 2012, along with many others. Their research progress is available online. It’s silly to make this argument; it’s the absurd panicked reaction by authorities either panicked or corrupt that we oppose. Making this argument just makes it easy to smear all critics as conspiracists, so helping the authoritarians.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711?fbclid=IwAR13dLP-B4mOYlfWlwkl9Ciys5jaHmUeenjgQjjkbp0cwPVWuSOBrHYk9SA
You are confused. They are claiming that what we have now is another “novel” coronavirus, different and more deadly than the “SARS-like” virus described in that study.
In truth they don’t know what any of this stuff they call “viruses” is or what it really does. It’s all speculation hijacked by an intent to sell vaccines, which relies on the belief that the human immune system is inadequate and needs technological reinforcement- which we must all pay for. That reinforcement comes from the frankenstein science of vaccines, using cells from aborted fetuses and cancer causing materials in the mix, for good measure.
Imagine Gollum donning a white coat and realising he can sell the marks literally anything and you get the picture.
The humble GP has the hardest job in many allopathic diagnostic chains. By the time many cases reach anything like a $peciali$t, a platoon of medical lackeys have sorted out exactly what–at least in their allopathic terms–they’re passing on to him or her. All the $peciali$t has to do is tick the workup he or one of his colleagues have taught the lackeys how to do, then get on with the ‘important’ stuff. On the other hand, in an extraordinary number of cases of some particular ailment that is allopathic bad news, the GP is faced with an incoherent walk-in presenting a whole array of ambiguous, individually-mediated symptoms, present in some cases but not in others, in a multitude of permuations and combinations that their pooled and differential diagnostic playbooks either cover inadequately or don’t cover at all, and from out of that mess they are expected to decide whether… Read more »
What a civilised and evolved state of affairs.
Did you read that hiccups are a tell-take sign of the Conofavirus busily clogging up your cells?
If that is so, then I’ve been infected for years.
I hadn’t heard! If that’s the case it sounds like we should both be long dead by now.
Narrative leverages are used to drive the introduction of regulations, that ratchet up but rarely release back to free or natural associations.
The narrative can be switched, morphed mutated or even sacrificed to another means to ratchet up control, demand sacrifice and mask it as virtue.
Possession and power operates fear of dispossession of power.
This is not just in the rich, or ruthless manipulators of the rich, but the identity in fear and control.
Can anyone here direct me to details of Neil Ferguson’s financial ties/arrangements with Pharma, the Gates Foundation, etc…?
Anodyne.
But…but…there’s this.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/19/sweden-records-highest-death-tally-in-150-years-in-first-half-of-2020
‘ the death toll has been higher than in its Nordic neighbours, which opted for tougher lockdown measures. Norway, with about half Sweden’s population, has had only about 260 Covid deaths in total.
The economy of Finland also outperformed its larger neighbour in the second quarter, despite a tougher lockdown. Finland’s gross domestic product shrank by 5% against an 8.6% contraction in Sweden from the previous three-month period.’
…………
Anyway why should we got back to the old normal dogs dinner of a rat race and sardined commuter daily horror of rush hour? I am looking forward to the city centres being converted into housing to put some human life in these otherwise sterile spaces.
The weeds of oppression also have potential to be cut back to leave such great flowers.
You are in for a shock. I know the sheeple are dumb but you are exceptional.
THANKS.
I am retired and I want the old normal back. If that means people like you have to go to work on the train, like I did for forty years, then so be it.
If working remotely is the new normal thing, then why not have the workers as remote as India, on a quarter of the pay. Big savings to be made.
Why not? Why should the workers in ‘remote’ India be any different to YOU? Are you exceptional? And ‘indispensable’?
Lols
Why not? In short, the old race to the bottom.
Like that you may help British businesses, but not British workers. Owners must always reduce wage costs if possible, and so hire the cheapest. Indian workers get jobs, Brits lose and stay poorer. Same logic with endless immigrant labour.
Japan is studiously ignored by such people: double the numbers of Brits, 13x Swedes, yet until a week ago had a death count in 3 figures. Now it’s a 1000 and change. No lockdown. True they wear masks, but they were a maskophile nation long before this.
(Besides which, masks are useless, as even WHO, among other dubious agencies, readily admits.)
What a farce.
Sigh, some people, err, 🐑-le.
Oh dear. Mr E. Sweden can’t be used as strawman so you construct Japan!
Genius that you are.
Why sneer? Do you want to debate or hate?
(t)OUCH(é) !!!
Now I’ve got a dueling scar of mansur. Great! Just great. Sigh…
Well, I guess I’ll just have to do my best to man up and wear it like a bloody 🏅…
But DG carved from cheek to lip?!
Asymetrically?!
Say it ain’t so…
Get Swedish news from their chief epidemiologist himself, Anders Tegnell, who explains how Sweden beat coronavirus without lockdowns or ruining their economy. The Graun must smear Sweden in order to maintain its narrative about the great threat to life and freedom, covid19. Posters probably know the Graun has been non-profitable for some years, thus making it very dependent on private funders like Bill Gates.
https://unherd.com/2020/07/swedens-anders-tegnell-judge-me-in-a-year/
The guy who is deleting emails that show he was planning excess deaths ?
The debate is and should be about just wtf this new virus is and how it works so that we can do something about it.
The clues are being gathered , the official and unofficial propaganda is being taken apart faster with FACTS. That is science.
It cannot be politically, militarily or religiously ‘uninvented’ – just like the atomic bomb can’t be.
Currently the narrative is aimed at getting children back to school in a couple of weeks. Politically that is what is needed to keep people on message. The truth of whether the elites believe that it’s safe is going to be seen by how many Eton/Winchester pupils go back under the same conditions as the rest of our kids.
Another clue.
I dont get why this troll is still tolerated here.
“Also we need to share info about these marches ***before*** they happen so people have time to make plans to attend. I’ve not seen one thing mentioned, even in the comments, ahead of time, only people saying they’ve happened and posting links to videos which helps nobody organise to attend.
This is going to be slap bang in the middle of nowhere in the comments but London Saturday August 29th Trafalgar Square 12 midday.
I have a flyer in png format but can’t get it to embed in my comment, if anyone knows how to please let me know.”
Well done Paul
Yes! I’ll be there too!
I’ll come and count YOU. one. But I’m sure it will be virtually a hundred thousand you.
Are you cabinet or 77? Your scripts are getting hard to tell apart.
Excuse me? We have actually attended a march in shoreditch last weekend, so not sure what your stupid comment is about.
How many were there? I didn’t hear anything about it.
My comment is about pathetic agit prop counter narrative by the state to push through their agenda.
There weren’t many people, perhaps around 200-300, but I suspect the one in Trafalgar square will be larger. As I said, it’s not a lot, but at least it’s something. @standup organise these all over uk
Maybe he wants to divide us, like the globalist elites do.
I’ll be there , that’s two . Chin up I’m sure you’re lovely once you’ve warmed up .
What ‘Color’ mask will you be wearing. I’ll come give you a hug.
Shall I bring some corn? Do the pigeons still land on your hand?
We can have a jolly little get together and go swimming in the fountains- it may be hot enough.
Could us Offguardists attending arrange to meet in person, and argue about who is really 77th Brigade? They’d probably whack us.
Here is a new book on the subject. The book touches on some of the questions highlighted in the article. https://www.amazon.com/COVID-2020-World-Petri-DIsh-ebook/dp/B08FGB2W19/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1F8A45IYIII8N&dchild=1&keywords=covid+2020&qid=1597521192&sprefix=covid+2020%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-4
The WHO states by September 2020 –
“The United Nations (including WHO) conducts at least two system-wide training and simulation exercises, including one for covering the deliberate release of a lethal respiratory pathogen.”
WHO – WORLD AT RISK PDF
https://apps.who.int/gpmb/assets/annual_report/GPMB_Annual_Report_Exec_Summary_Foreword_and_About_English.pdf
Simulation exercises.
SIMULATION.
Yes they’ve been planning the Covid stunt for years. Many people, even those on this site, haven’t yet grasped the enormity of what is happening and still they worry about unimportant things, when we are now in a last ditch fight for our very lives.
The UN and WHO/Bill Gates are bringing us, at breakneck speed their notorious Agenda 21 and things will inevitably soon turn very ugly. We are about to be sustainably developed and at the heart of this process you will find Bill Gates, syringe in hand, bidding us a not so fond farewell. The apocalypse is almost upon us.
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Yes that’s the explanation.
Two exercises required *before* September 2020
Is coronie the first or second of these? Must be the first, so will the second be the coronie 2nd wave or will it be when they flick the satellite switches and bath us in 5G from space to knock over those particularly sensitive individuals.
Bill n’ Mel seem confident. Maybe the 5G (it’s harmless, follow the science!) will be passed off as a bigger and badder coronie comeback; we’ll be pleading for the injectables!
David
I like to hope that Event 201 was the first exercise which would, hopefully, rule out or reduce the chances of another pandemic being declared. Having said that, I can almost guarantee there will be a ‘second wave’ in September …all the warning signs are there.
No evidence of a second wave yet, and many top experts saying it’s most unlikely. Here’s one:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11763983/coronavirus-second-wave-virologist/
But Prof Pennington is speaking from a scientific perspective, not a political one. 😉
5G beamed from space wouldn’t begin to get anywhere near you. Where do you get your ‘science’ from? The small print on the back of Cocopops packets?
I don’t have my own science; for my comment that you take exception to, there are plenty of people expressing alarm about the 5G switch on. Here for instance:-
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/what-you-should-know-about-5g-satellites-how-musks-sci-fi-dreams-are-becoming-our-living-nightmare/
The other thing is the confidence of Bill ‘n Mel that we’ll really “get it” when the 2nd pandemic hits us. See the second video clip in this off-G article:-
https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/we-must-inoculate-ourselves-against-the-crazy-anti-rationalists/
So why are they so smug? Do you think there’s going to be a real 2nd wave of a covid-19 viral infection that’s disappeared in the UK? I don’t claim to know very much other than putting 2 and 2 together makes 4. Maybe you have better ideas.
If so you should find another way of expressing your superior knowledge, because otherwise you sound in the same ballpark as Boris Johnson – “anti-vaxxers are nutters”. You are giving the impression that you also get your science from Ferguson.
Didnt Mike Pompep tell Trump at the beginning of the “Pandemic” that they are in the middle of a live exercice and Trump then replied ” you should have told me”?
We must have watched the same video by that Indian lady? I’m not sure, but I will say that what she claims does fit with the body language.
It would be good if someone with sharp hearing / excellent audio equipment could confirm this one way or the other.
That’s an extremely useful link, thanks. Bookmarked for reuse
Why was my comment removed? What’s the point of even having a site like this if you’re not going to allow comments that are more pertinent than the articles being written? There are no pandemics. They are faked. Time and time again that’s been proven. From every swine flu to every flu where they claim all deaths from pneumonia or COPD or even lung cancer, if it includes any “flu like“ symptoms, is recorded as a flu death, even without laboratory confirmation or testing. In 1976 more than 40,000 Americans were vaccinated for swine flu. There was not a single case of laboratory confirmed swine flu in the US. They rushed a vaccine, they tested it and they ran a scare campaign on tv and in the press. The vaccine they tested appeared safe. Then at the last minute they swapped the tested vaccine and gave the 40,000 volunteers an… Read more »
Good points raised. Just as all the terrorism events from 2001 onwards were staged to keep the fear going to justify mass domestic surveillance powers and crucially destroy and balkanise local rivals to Israel and steal their assets.
2014 was a major year because secretly Obama lifted the Smith Mundy Act which prevented the US from performing psychological warfare on US citizens.
You could argue that Brexit was the first major psy op and since then its been building consistently to the point where the fear is as high as its ever been.
Wreck the minds of your people to usher in the massive changes you want to make on society. Position yourself as the saviour and the person that can take the fear away, its classic and pretty obvious once you’ve studied it.
“How can a papaya test positive for covid-19?”
I think that pretty much sums it all up.
the same back in the 90;s when you could test positive for aids hiv in certain demographic areas gay black lationo very poor white areas and then go get tested in upper more lets say White rich areas and get negative result
nothing new with BS19 they just ampd it up
All excellent points and much truth in there. Nevertheless we are in a post-truth world as you know. I’m not too sure how we turn this around to be frank. Sanity and reason simply don’t count any longer among the muzzles numpties and they are legion.
@kevinpk We’re not just in a post-truth world but a post-proof world also. They just have to assert something and it is so; no proof offered. Russia did it. China did it. Russia and China did it. Etc. But ask for proof and you’re a Putin stooge – an accusation all too reminiscent of the Nazis.
I think we can turn it around by exposing each issue one at a time, with a view to simultaneously discussing the real motives behind the pandemic and the seriousness of what’s at stake.
If the broader agenda is excluded from the discussion it confuses those who never questioned the official narrative as to why governments, institutions, corporations, academics and scientists would be all of one voice in the Greek Chorus of Covid.
The first step is exposing the myths, then unite and coalesce against their plans, then mount legal challenges.
It’s time for all of us to speak out in unison, to unite left and right, all colors, classes, creeds and citizens everywhere.
I’m all for unity of left and right. Sadly, you reply to someone who divides us by blaming the muzzled more than the muzzlers. Blaming victims is horribly common on this forum. It’s elitism.
Who do you see and oppose as most problematic: the muzzlers or their victims, we the muzzled?
We’re dealing with a planned event which means that ultimately, all governments and officials agreed in advance to the agenda. Nobody had been caught off guard and they were all prepared. They’ve been preparing this for more than two decades.
Uniting left and right ultimately means to stop talking about politics and start talking about the issues, the phony science, the re-engineering of the economy, the social re-engineering, the technocratic agenda and the lies being spread by the media and officials.
This is apolitical. Both parties are involved in this fraud and work together against the citizens.
There is a major stumbling block in that plan and that is the common so-called “Occam’s Razor ” belief that such a global conspiracy is too intricate and far fetched to be possible. I’m afraid the creatures praying on humanity have superior cunning and strategic foresight than most of us. Modern domesticated humanity simply cannot digest the fact that its shepherds are wolves, it’s too much evil for them to cope with. David Ike was ridiculed and will be forever rejected because of his comment about reptilians. If you take that as a metaphor it hits a bit too close to home and it’s not the sort of knowledge that’s conducive to being a “normal” person… So, most people simply will not go there, they will tune that out and choose to believe that the governments have for once done the right thing and prevented a greater crisis- because modern… Read more »
Perhaps the comment was considered to run to too many pages?
Otherwise, it made a great many excellent points.
Personally, I like one article per page, with the rest being comments (summaries of what the person concerned thinks).
Not the same comment. Different points.
In fact, if the first comment wasn’t removed there would have been no need for any other.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
”They are faked. Time and time again that’s been proven. From every swine flu to every flu where they claim all deaths from pneumonia or COPD or even lung cancer, if it includes any “flu like“ symptoms, is recorded as a flu death, even without laboratory confirmation or testing.” I’ll buy some of that. But ‘proven’ time and time again ? So what was the Spanish Flu of 1918 about. What was that proven to be. The Eugenics movement has always been underground.How many leaders, scientists or anyone like Gates or Fauci have ever used the term publicly. Even Gates won’t.They’ll call it a lot of things but never Eugenics.Looking at the world it seems clear that selective breeding or breeding out of impurities and imperfections have been long discarded in favour of a new age form of ethnic cleansing.The new ethnicity is a blanket demographic of around 6, 5… Read more »
Read it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/
I did.. Conclusions ”The majority of deaths in the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic likely resulted directly from secondary bacterial pneumonia caused by common upper respiratory–tract bacteria. Less substantial data from the subsequent 1957 and 1968 pandemics are consistent with these findings” It suggests that it was easier to examine the physical specimens of 1918 than 1957. But the word i have a problem with is ‘likely’. If we want to offer something and call it ‘proven’ it shouldn’t be able to be contradicted by it’s own lack of definitive evidence.’Likely’ does this. If we allow this as a token ‘margin of era’ then we can also allow it when defining the common symptoms of Influenza which reads very closely to the aforementioned description : ”Influenza, also called flu or grippe, an acute viral infection of the upper or lower respiratory tract” Credibility is another problem. Fauci and his team ? We’ve… Read more »
I agree with much of this post. I’d just add that it’s hard to imagine a better and more useful disguise for tyranny than philanthropy. “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants”, the great Albert Camus famously wrote, with reference to the communist monsters of the C20th. It could be Gates or Soros today. My other favourite is from Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, who famously survived and escaped the Soviet gulags where millions died. “To do real evil, people must really believe they are doing good”.
Exactly. I emphasised the word ‘philanthropy’ so you’d know I was pointing out the irony that only kids the sleepy sheep.
Quite a few people escaped the Gulags. Including Peter Kropotkin… I think that qualifies as “badass”.
I’m not writing a scientific paper, they are. I don’t actually have to believe anything they put in that paper, since most scientific papers are based on results that are unrepeatable. The significance is the entire medical industrial complex has been lying about the causes of death. That in itself proves that pandemics aren’t real because * the tests they use aren’t related to a virus. * pandemics are based on hype. * the deaths in ”pandemics” are not from the virus, but from secondary causes. * they’re media driven scare campaigns for control, to pass laws that inhibit people’s civil rights and liberties * they’re money making exercises that drive people to be vaccinated and those vaccinations make them money, also sickening people long term and creating repeat business, long term. This is more than making money. The vaccination campaigns, the scaremongering, the bioweapons labs, is racketeering based on… Read more »
”I’m not writing a scientific paper, they are. I don’t actually have to believe anything they put in that paper” Exactly.And i didn’t suggest you were. All i said was that the use of ‘proven’ needs to have evidence to support it. LIke you said it had been ‘proven’ that all flu, including the 1918 flu, were non existent. I asked what they were instead. You posted a link with two words ‘read it’ I read.And i saw a paper put together by Fauci and his team and all it said was ‘likely’. That’s no proof of anything either.So i pointed out the similarity to his ‘likely’ conclusion and the actual medical definition of flu. Fauci and gates and friends organised this scam decades ago.They’ve practiced and prepared since 2000.We know it isn’t what they say and we know they have motive to lie. One is the vast wealth they’ll… Read more »
It is proof there wasn’t a pandemic. Just because the authors added a word doesn’t change the result of the study.
I’ve read hundreds and hundreds of scientific papers and words such as “may” “likely” “could” “indicates” are the norm.
It’s just to prevent the paper from being bounced.
The autopsy results “proved“ the 1918 flu patients died from a bacterial infection. Not a virus.
The “time and time again” phrase refers to the number of times that scientists and officials have been caught lying about the nature of viruses, deaths, vaccination programs and pandemics.
”Just because the authors added a word doesn’t change the result of the study.”
Is their proof that someone added a word ? If they added a word they’ve corrupted the study.
”I’ve read hundreds and hundreds of scientific papers and words such as “may” “likely” “could” “indicates” are the norm.”
I know. But ‘proof’ and ‘proven’ aren’t in that list.
”The autopsy results “proved“ the 1918 flu patients died from a bacterial infection. Not a virus.”
The researcher concluded it could be.; it might have been; Not proof that it was the case.Therefore you can’t quote what somebody speculated or suspected as proof or proven.
I suppose the decider is the credibility of the authors and researchers.Fauci only has credibility among his own type. They make big money from pharma.That’s called agenda.Not science.
Scientists are concerned with scientific truths, than can be proven and they must be replicated and proven over and over again before it is a proven scientific truth
may, likely,could,indicates are prefixed with ‘the evidence suggests’….we work on prevoius scientific evidence…the words do not come out of fresh air.
I just want to point out the fact that all results of any scientific paper must be able to be replicated….if not your paper will be thrown out.
We learn from any thing that can be replicated, that’s how science works, you can refine and fine tune…no room for anyrhing other than hypothesis stands or hypothesis falls
Exactly. And that Fauci et al paper is taking a swing at it. ‘likely’ using his rationale also fits the flu hypothesis too.
Again i can only agree
The many hundreds of concentration camps in communist China are real and hold between 1-3m Muslims, Tibetans and other dissidents, say escapees and human rights activists. Torture, sterilisation, death and organ harvesting are common. I fear calling the planet ‘one big death camp’ helps people ignore this much greater horror. When will leftists join Trump in condemning and opposing communist China? They might regain some credibility if they did.
https://www.haaretz.com/amp/world-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-a-million-people-are-jailed-at-china-s-gulags-i-escaped-here-s-what-goes-on-inside-1.7994216#click=https://t.co/fjE0HETnxy
” I fear calling the planet ‘one big death camp’ helps people ignore this much greater horror. ” China is only one country. Like Palestine is. Can that make either or both a bigger problem than the whole planet ? To be honest, if i’d escaped from a prison that was torturing and killing people and experimenting on others, my first port of call would be to pursue avenues that would lead to China facing an international court and being charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. It wouldn’t be to seek out photographers and magazines with cheque books. I know China isn’t known for Gold resources in their rocks and they have no oil we know of. But why isn’t the planet’s John Wayne- the USA- attacking China to ‘liberate’ prisoners ? They’re passionate about freedom and human rights aren’t they ? Or is it oil, money, gold and… Read more »
Yep, agree all the way
Fauci is as straight as a pig’s penis. He’s funded the Wuhan lab with taxpayers’ money ($3.2m) to continue coronavirus research after Obama banned it in the US in 2015 as ‘too risky’, his department has known off-patent HCQ is very effective as both prophylactic and cure for covid19 since his own researchers discovered that in 2005 (but he demonises it constantly now), he’s close to Gates and the WHO (of which Gates is the largest funder), and he has a strange interest in owning patents for potential, highly lucrative treatments of dangerous new respiratory diseases. He’s also written the most absurdly fawning e-mails to Hillary Clinton, used Neil Ferguson’s utterly discredited model to justify lockdown in the US, and contradicted his own advice on countless occasions. He’s been in high office since the 60s, and cannot be fired even by Trump himself. Dr Faust indeed.
Because you couldn’t find your own arse (or, in this case, its defecates) even using both hands?
Perhaps the word your ‘research’ has missed is “subclinical”?
Good God, a citation! Had you noted it on a bit of roll?Was it lurking down your toilet? Did you have to get your hands wet or was it sitting on top?
The Wellcome trust keeps popping up. The facade of their HQ in London is full of ancient Egyptian symbols… that’s not freemasonic at all, is it?
However. The statement about “funding bioweapons” is questionable, as is the existence of actually usable bioweapons in the sense of things that can cause mass casualties to enemies, without terribly backfiring.
Who do you Trust? – latest video from Polly
https://www.bitchute.com/video/avIpEV7p7oo/
Does Polly ever discuss Jewish power?
Polly as in “Polly want a cracker?”, Polly is the name of a parrot. Think about it.
Limited hangout. Controlled opposition. Parroting.
Anyone who doesn’t discuss Jewish power immediately triggers my suspicion of controlled opposition. If they are not, they are beneath my level of perception.
Either way, not worth my time.
Globalists don’t care about nationality or religious identity, only power, status and control over everyone else.
On the contrary, their identity is what makes it all possible.
she’s a ‘Q’ groupie..
Great article Kit and thanks for the links to data and sources.
Any chance you could do an article on what goes into influenza vaccines and the like and how effective they are. A history on influenza vaccines.
Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein video.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/lin-wood-posts-creepiest-video-yet-vaccinator-bill-gates/
This was the last UK NHS report on the subject (England only, from PHE Public Health England) which concluded the 2017/18 season flu vaccine was only 15% effective across the board.
Which doesn’t give me much confidence anything they do a total rush job on will be any higher than 15%, but is highly likely to have a lot more undesirable side effects.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/flu-vaccine-effectiveness-in-2017-to-2018-season
Paul, you’ve nailed it; stuck the argument “pinned and wriggling on the wall”. This search for a flu vaccine is like divorce: the triumph of hope over experience.
It seems to be a dodgy method used to determine the effectiveness called test-negative design.
They use a method where people who have flu like illness visit the doctor and then they determine if they have “the flu virus” or “other respiratory virus (ORV)” using a test. So 100% of the people in the VE study actually had flu like illness and it does not say anything about whether the ‘vaccine’ actually reduced flu like illness only test results. It could increase flu like illness overall whilst reducing only the prevelence of the specific test result for ‘flu virus’ presense during those flu like illnesses. Thats what I gathered from a quick look anyway.
” The study unexpectedly found that the proportion of vaccination was higher among ORV positive controls than pan-negative controls, resulting in higher VE using ORV positive controls.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X1730899X
So the vaccine increased other respiratory viruses. How terribly unsurprising.
They should simply test vaccinated against never vaccinated. That would be definitive.
You’ll never, ever see that study.
Vaccinations and the huge profits they will generate will be completely unnecessary were HCQ made routinely available to everyone, both as prophylactic and cure. Dr Fauci knows that HCQ applied correctly defeats the whole range of coronaviruses, from his own department’s research in 2005, but he has done his best to demonise it and get it banned, just like the WHO. Fauci is close to Gates and the WHO of which Gates is now the largest funder. Gates is also now spreading obvious dIsinformation about ‘risky’ HCQ. See his most recent interview in Bloomberg Businessweek Joining the dots gets easier with day that passes.
what ‘they’ really don’t want you to know is that HCQ has been shown to be effective at destroying cancer cells… oops…. no one is supposed to know that…
Yeah. The undesirable effects will be very permanent.
So the flu vaccine is as effective as a placebo.
WSWS finally openly admitted that they effectively supported suppression of protests worldwide by supporting lockdowns under guise of COVID hysteria. Concentrated in Bangkok, rallies were held daily until the shutdown of universities in late February due to the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.Protests erupted again on July 18,[despite supposed second outbreak of COVID] when a demonstration of 2,500 students at the Democracy Monument was organised by a student movement named Free Youth, a collective of disparate university groups and clubs across the country on the basis of the demands. Protests subsequently spread to at least 44 of the country’s 76 provinces and have been held almost every day. SO NOW COVID no COVID, WSWS SUPPORTS SELECTED PROTESTS [ also BLM, ANTIFA] WHICH THEY CONDEMNED AS DANGEROUS TO HUMAN RACE JUST SIX MONTHS AGO, AMID STILL ALARMIST COVERAGE OF “SECOND WAVE”AND ONGOING WSWS CAMPAIGN FOR CONTINUING LOCKDOWNS SUPPOSEDLY BECAUSE OF DEADLY… Read more »
Your theory seems to ignore all those BLM and other woke Cultural Marxist riots in the Anglo Saxon world.
I was so appalled by the grotesque fear porn the WSWS was pumping out, I ditched them permanently back in early March I think it was.
And that they made no attempt to even question the Establishment and MSM mantra on Covd was inexplicable. Or else there was a more sinister reason.
They made their bed. Now they can lie in it. Your comment gets an upvote from me.
You are right about WSWS. We can already see that COVID-19(84) may turn out to be the vehicle for greatest attack against working people (those that traditionally the erstwhile “left” represent and support) in history. If nothing else it compresses the magnitude of the 40+ year class war of Neoliberalism into less than 1 year. So, the WSWS has been a significant cheerleader among “radical” socialists for this same Trojan horse of working class defeat. Back in early March I made a comment on their website asking if they had heard of Event 201. I was immediately attacked at a right-wing conspiracy nut by, not just another commenter, but one of their writers. As if the tin-hat nut-jobs created the event and its online documentation out of thin air. I now see WSWS as COINTELPRO operation or maybe it was created by the CIA (like the Congress of Cultural Freedom… Read more »
I quoted CDC and FDA that WSWS claims to worship and was first attacked and by mid March banned as more “descenders of official WSWS line on COVID expressed ,deep concerns about WSWS objectivity on Coronavirus.
Many posters on this mostly leftist site clearly despise and criticise ordinary working people for being passive, an ignorant herd, not joining their protests, wearing masks like sheep etc. These claims are deeply misguided, divisive, bigoted, elitist, and useless. But they are very, very useful for the global elites, who just love to see radical leftists like BLM and Antifa burning down cities, attacking dangerous statues, and attacking good working people in MAGA hats. This is why billionaire radicals like George Soros fund the radical left to prevent popular unity. Divide and rule is a famously effective way to protect elites. Leftist hate and war against normies, dumb plebs and racist gammons helps the elites, betrays leftist principles of tolerance and respect for others, and is a major reason why I left the left.
WSWS went full, Big-Pharma fascist in Dec 2019 with its support for forced vaccination in Samoa:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/12/03/samo-d03.html
This is an alternative view: Michael Simms (Aussie activist) interviewd by Heather Simpson (Vaxxter Contributor) and published at Dr. Sherri Tenpenny’s site.
https://vaxxter.com/crisis-in-samoa-interview-with-an-aussie-activist/
WSWS are schizo – terrified of THE VIRUS but still wanting the Winter Palace to be stormed. All very sad.
From what I’ve read, the WSWS are jubilant about the virus and use the scaremongering as an indication that, apparently, the Winter Palace is about to be stormed. Well – with everyone stuck in their houses, perhaps they can use social media to effect a “virtual” revolution?
I reject storming palaces. The ballot box is the only peaceful way to remove failed or fraudulent leaders and their agendas.
No. There is no ballot box. They fix the numbers.
Controlled opposition. WSWS is a joke.
But this isn’t WSWS so why post this here?
“Final question – do you know how many people in the United Kingdom officially died with (not of) the coronavirus yesterday?
It’s 12.”
Actually, Kit, I think that is still with, and not necessarily of covid19.
That is what the sentence says – “Final question – do you know how many people in the United Kingdom officially died WITH (not OF) the coronavirus yesterday?”
What point are you making?
Detail on how they are brainwashing you and your friends and family. These policies are derived from the Soviet Union and are now policy in the UK. There are three images and I will link to Yuri Bezmenov, the source of this information
The blueprint for your existence is contained in these images and video. This is not what God wants for us. We must educate and inform, because our media is full of liars and criminals and is not fit for purpose. The scum at the BBC are lower than low. They are agents of the Devil.
‘Agents of the devil’ would have made me laugh once. Now I can’t be sure it’s untrue.
About BBC devils: “in order for men to do great evil, they must first believe they are doing good.”
Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, speaking about Soviet communists
Killer quote.
Not really.
Hell is paved with good intentions but also bad intentions and “if I didn’t do it someone else would”.
The plebs at the BBC know they aren’t doing good, they’re collecting the pay cheque and paying the mortgage and doing what they know is expected of them.
If there’s a God, then you may be absolutely certain what’s happening is precisely what this God wants for us – otherwise it wouldn’t be happening, would it? God could fart and make it all go away. But we all know that’s not how it works.
I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but God and the Devil are the same entity. God gives us the finger of the right hand; the Devil gives us the finger of the left hand. And somehow we mistake The Finger for a sign to “Carry on people! It’s all part of my Plan.”
From your omniscient attitude are we to conclude that you are God? If so,pardon my impertinence, next time you hand down a judgement, would you be kind enough to make it unambiguous so we can understand what you are saying.
I merely tabulate, neither more nor less. Living entities have ended up with the short end of the stick for as long as humanity has existed. Which has to mean one of two things: 1) there is no Big Daddy in the Clouds watching after the Earth; or 2) Big Daddy doesn’t have time for its “creations.” I know of no third alternative.
Precisely.
There are no alternatives but millions of different ways to experience creation and apprehend it without words
You don’t need to understand if you have faith. You can always turn the other cheek.
Unfortunately for all of us, your “God” and “Devil” are one and the same parasitic entity.
Very good video. I managed to be an officer in that army at that time and what he tells is in line what we suspected already then. I visited East Germany in 1976 (schoolclass educational trip) and o’boy, was that educational! Utter poverty (in my eyes) , I was offered 500 east marks for the Levis I was wearing + a pair of east german jeans. Standing at night at Check Point Charlie viewpoint and looking across East Berlin was just darkness, hardly a light shone. I was in no doubt ever when I joined the Army. Well things did change, to the better I presume, Germany reunified at enormous cost, living standards are even now not equal, hopefully it will come. Germans are not lazy. The rest of Eastern Europe is a mixed bag, but so is the EU, there is a hell of a difference between Sweden (where… Read more »
This is great work, thanks
The current dystopia is being driven by a psychopathic capitalist ruling class in crisis. You cannot blame the long gone Soviet Union for what’s happening now.
It’s not about blaming the Soviet Union but rather seeing some of the same methods being copied.
No? The Soviet Union is gone. But the Communists are still with us. The Democrat party has gone full bore.
I agree the ruling class are psychopathic. But they are NOT capitalist. The only capitalism they practice is better called cronyism. There is not a single capitalist principal in it.
We would all be better off without any of the old religions.
Yeah, but this time it’s different. You see what we have now is a real case of bat flu. And that is scary. It will kill millions, because bats’ flu (just you wait until we get into covid20!), cannot be stopped unless you lock up an entire country (see North Korea’s success), or prevent women from getting infected as they do in Afghanistan, Iran and ISIS country (that evil Assad), and where women are forced to wear burka’s all the time (we are told). You see this bat flu can miraculously not pass pieces of cloth, while it is overabundantly present in the air, yet invisible. I know that sounds all kind of weird, but there are people who make the science, we call them experts, and they are always right. Now please shut up, wear your mouth mask, stop thinking and obey. Which reminds me of this Groundhog Day… Read more »
What is the fuss? Those who have had their eye on the ball can see Coronae – the new normal Sovereignty (for reasons of an emergent (virtual) bio-medical security) – as actually quite a minor event in the ineluctable march of knowledge and power toward absolutism and totality of Sovereignty. The majority of the UK (31mn of a 46mn electorate) voted for this current state of affairs in December. It is our own alienated Sovereign powers that our duly elected representative – President Cummings – is authorised to use against us by us ….for our own protection our own common good. Which is a fact that seems to register only with a few of us. We enter into this as we do into a voluntary servitude – of a Master/Slave dialectic – for reasons that are never stated – only inculcated. By which we, the People, nonetheless, retain overall Sovereignty.… Read more »
No one voted for this tyranny. Why is the same style authoritarianism unfolding simultaneously in Melbourne and Manchester?
The paper trail leads back to the WEF, WHO, Pharma, Gates, World Bank, CIA, United Nations, the ruling class.. and god knows who else. This is World War 3.
Don’t exaggerate. When bombs are falling on your house (like in Aleppo, Mosul, Belgrade), you can talk about WWIII. What we have here is a swindle and a collective case of madness.
I’d go for collective madness, and am reminded of Stan Cohen’s ‘Folk Devils and Moral Panics ‘. Moral Panics often result in restrictive legislation to deal with non problems. Worth looking up.
I agree with you on the aspect of collective madness. That one is certain and it has many faces. The swindle (in the absence of evidence) is hypothetical although the correlation of a wrecked economy is visited by some alien flu to wreck the economy raises my suspicion that we are also looking at a swindle.
By the time the true financial costs of this madness are calculated, people will be outraged and that includes many oligarchs and other powerful people who, similar to other human beings, don’t like it to be the victim of a swindle.
There will be no financial cost in the sense you understand it. You really do not know what is going on.
If the warnings – ie, the long game of ‘New World Order’, the ‘Great Reset’, ‘Agenda 21′ etc come to fruition, then millions around the world will die from poverty, starvation and cancelled medical treatments.
If, in ten years’ time, those around the world who criticise the Gov are thrown into jail and the remaining citizens are tagged, traced, and monitored to the level of complaint serf, then the world will have turned into a giant concentration camp.
I disagree that this nightmare is not a war when people have been beaten to death in Brazil, and literally starved to death in India because of ‘lockdown’.
There are all kinds of wars. A death is a death.
“There are all kinds of wars.”
Correct. And this is the beginning of a war by the privileged few on the masses of the world. It’s a depopulation war to tie in with the end of the bankrupt modern economic system, to enable the privileged few to move their wealth and privilege into their depraved vision of a New World Order.
If that’s all that’s going on then we have nothing to worry about then don’t we?
Well not exactly. Many people died or were financially ruined because of swindles/collective cases of mania such as the south sea bubble, the tulip mania, or (more recently) subprime mortgages, etc.
But in case as if we live in exceptional times: we don’t
Wise up, get your act together and say that covid is a scam. We all know, yet some are afraid to say it because of these oligarchs, mad scientists and politicians who are coming to get you.
Was that similar to “Folk devils judiciously conjured up by manipulative psychopaths and the social chaos they cause, the results of which we constantly witness”?
All wars start with a swindle. The bombs will come.
Maybe. But not all swindles end in a war. Far from it.
Really? You think it’s a swindle when millions of people die from cancer, or other diseases that emanate from vaccines and other man made toxic chemicals in our environment, water, atmosphere and food chain?
It’s not a missile, but a slow, unnecessary and brutal death, designed to suck the money out of society into the hands of a few wealthy individuals, and the causes are all man made.
That is WWIII.
Just because you are oblivious to the methods used doesn’t mean it’s not occurring.
You can live in denial all you like, but anyone who’s looked into the science behind vaccines, radiation, petrochemicals and pollution knows what’s causing chronic inflammation and epigenetic gene mutation leading to all cancers, all neurodegenerative diseases, diabetes type II, heart disease, auto immune disorders, asthma and allergies.
You clearly don’t understand much do you? This is just the start. The end goal is transhumanism and things are accelerating rapidly. It’s a world war that is just as deadly as any war fought with weapons. The fate of humanity is at stake and at the moment humanity is losing badly.
That’s the thing. They did vote for it. They elected all these dodgy politicians, chose which media to buy, bought smart phones and beef burgers (despite all the warnings of the health effects), handed their children over to be educated and injected etc. etc. (despite all the warnings). You could practically count the people who give a fuck on one hand.
I agree with you. In some perverse way this budding totalitarianism is a democratic outcome as much as it is also an oligarchic one.
I agree, if you are ignorant enough to vote and don’t understand that you are consenting to the continuation of slavery, you certainly lose all right to complain.
I fully agree with you that the trail leads back to the World Economic Forum, WHO, Bilderberg Group, CIA, Big Pharma, the Rockefellers, Gates, Buffet, et al. For me, this is much more about instituting total control via a social credit system, health immunity passports, biometric id, global digital currency and a panopticonic surveillance rather than WW3.
It’s a war without bombs. If, over the next decade, the entire human race becomes humiliated and subjugated into serfdom, then the capitalist elite will have won.
For the elites who start wars, it’s always about profit and control. The working class who fight them always lose. So, I don’t think you are that far off.
it’s known as asymetrical warfare… where many people aren’t even aware they are in a war…. very effective… psyops like Covid 1984 hoax and George Floyd Race Riots Hoax are used and many people believe them…
31mn people voted for the state structure: not the exact policies of the state. The exact policies are therefore pre-legitimised by the People. Assent is tacitly given for our authority to be used over us, for us. That is politics 101. To rescind the right of authority to an illegitimate ruler is self-defeating and totalitarian in and of itself. It couldn’t possibly be that the paper trail goes back through the WEF, etc. through our shared cultural heritage to deeper, more ancient roots? Or did we invent culture, history, thought, and language anew in February? Was everything peachy up until then, or had we had a few genocidal blips, fascist interludes, and episodes of slavery before then? Perhaps they were aberrations? Perhaps human reality is perfect and undistorted: and only a few aberrant institutions and individuals are trying to corrupt our 20/20 knowing? Perhaps it really is a war of… Read more »
Eventually, Nature will restore balance. She always does.
So you can actually write in comprehensible language Big B! Please do it more often. I’m sure you have much that is worth hearing, but I struggle to understand a lot of it.
Do you mean “why do we put up with bullshit?” Part of the answer is that we are immersed in it, as your post so verbosely demonstrates.
Haha.
His post is nonsensical.
Blaming the victim for the psychopathic behavior of billionaire eugenicist monsters and their personal hit men, the politicians and crooked judges.
Total gaslighting.
To be sovereign you must have a standing army, so be careful making claims.
It is not a claim: but a political fact. Referenced in a legal dictionary. I could have referenced it in many more: and in the primary and secondary literature. The People are the Sovereign power of a constitutional democracy or nation-state.
Having a standing army in peace time is in breach of our (UK) constitution. But we do not have a constitution either.
You need to have a very cold and hard review of your posting style B.