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Compassion, not shame: a stranger’s kindness for a maskless shopper sets the example

Oregon Dissenter

Now that Oregon Governor Kate Brown has cruelly mandated that healthy people wear masks when visiting indoor public spaces, and has engaged in an ugly hate and shaming campaign, the difficulty for people not wearing a mask has been amplified.

Oregonians are not alone in this. Across the world the maskless have endured increasing abuse, assaults, fines, and hatred, piling yet more pain on top of the distress we’re all under. Already at the breaking point, some folks just can’t take another lash of cruelty, leading to public incidents.

So far, my personal sense of outrage has been eclipsed by my ability to keep my temper but the armor weakens some days. We all have every justification to be screaming mad right now, maskless or otherwise. This entire situation, to be blunt, is bullshit.

Yet in public I hold my tongue and smile. I prefer peace and so I keep it. I treat people exactly how I wish to be treated: friendly, benign, nonjudgmental, and helpful if possible. I exhibit or model the behavior I expect from others around me. Yes, I know that makes me an asshole. No, I don’t care.

Before the indoors mask edict in Oregon went into effect July 1, I hadn’t gone anywhere in a while, and my stores were getting low. A week later I finally had no choice but to attempt to go shopping. There just wasn’t any other option.

So I loaded up and headed out, hoping it wouldn’t be a horror show. Would I even get in? If not, what would I do? Would I be the next viral video of a public mask shaming? These worries weighed on me as I nervously drove to my destiny with a department store.

It was an incredibly humbling experience.

When I found myself leaning on a shopping cart aiming toward the store’s entry door, I was sweating with anxiety. I knew the medical exemption for indoor mask wearing was meant for people like me. And I had already contacted the store ahead of time to make sure there wouldn’t be an issue; out of courtesy I didn’t want to blindside them any more than I wanted to be blindsided with being denied entry.

Yet the meanness and simmering hatred Governor Brown openly exhibits when talking about those not wearing a mask echoed firmly in my head. How many of the people I was about to encounter consumed and believed her propaganda? How many would follow her example and abuse or harass me?

I went right in unimpeded and no one bothered me. An employee crossed paths with me as I turned into an aisle, and simply apologized for walking in my way. No hassling. A few other customers were unmasked and everyone went about their shopping.

I made it probably 1/3 of the store perimeter before breath issues slowed me, and not long after I was panting and dizzy. I endured, knowing I ought to make it as long as I took it slow.

I stopped to look at coffee (first coffee in two weeks) and the masked employee stocking the shelf offered some ideas as to which of the brands on sale I should try. She was friendly, and smelled some different roasts with me. She said not one word about my bare face, which is right– if I was in the store, I’d already been cleared for entry maskless.

Even just talking coffee I was out of breath and I was leaning against the shelf for support. Immediately concerned, the clerk offered me a chair.

I protested but before I could stagger away leaning on my cart she produced a camping chair from a display and sat it right in the aisle for me. I gratefully fell into it and we lightly chatted about the suffocation of masks while I recovered.

Once I’d caught my breath, she actually took the time to walk with me and help track down the rest of my items in case I needed to sit down again. With a fair amount of effort and a helpful companion, I managed to not end up on the floor and made it to the checkout.

I thanked her profusely, made sure to note her name, and offered a “symbolic” hug since I know real ones are not allowed for employees. From the moment we met and until we parted, she was kind, helpful, nice, and openly caring.

Such unconditional good treatment towards a stranger, who is, by the estimation of so many politicians and commentators a “loaded gun” or a “drunk driver” or an outright “murderer,” was one of the most humbling things that has happened to me since this whole coronavirus debacle started.

No stranger has been so nice to me, not once, not in months.

That simple act of kindness was a perfect example of how we all should behave. No judgment, no impatience, no anger. Just friendliness, honesty, and being unashamed to openly express care for another person.

The impact of that moment has not faded. If there is one good person like her, then surely there are more. But perhaps it is her rarity that makes her so valuable.

The world’s media, elected officials, influencers and celebrities are all joining forces to create a “new normal” where healthy people paradoxically wear masks and those not wearing them, regardless of the reason, are treated as badly as conceivably possible. This lack of compassion today, I fear, is what their “new normal” will feature tomorrow.

Yet that day in that store, a simple act of true compassion and caring set the standard for how we all should proceed from here.

If the aim is to create a new normal then why must it be one of lockdowns, masks, shutdowns, closures, restrictions, layoffs and depression? Why must it involve violence, hatred, shame, and anger?

Why can’t it be one where we care about each other even if we aren’t “following the rules,” where we won’t be publicly shamed by our own leaders or heroes for simply trying to survive?

One where if you see a person out of breath in a store you don’t harass them about a mask but rather offer a chair so they can rest. One where people keep an eye on each other not to tattle or report or shame or doxx but to make sure we’re all okay, to see if we need help, or simply just some friendly company.

It can exist. It existed for two people that day, for just a few precious minutes, wherein a complete stranger did the right thing, the best thing. It cost her nothing but gave both of us so very much.

That is the best “new normal” we can aim for. But it’s not new, rather it’s something we used to simply call “normal.”

If a store clerk in a small city and a nobody like me can do it so effortlessly, so unconditionally, so happily, then all of us can, in Oregon– and beyond.

Originally published on Dissenters and Skeptics of Oregon

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Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 26, 2020 7:18 PM

And another, this on NHS privatisation and virus testing (by DeLoitte!!!!!)

Operation Moonshot could be the biggest NHS privatisation in history, and civil servants are shaking their heads in disbelief.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/deloitte-gets-another-huge-covid-contract-for-crazy-plan-to-test-millions-each-day/

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 26, 2020 6:53 PM
Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 26, 2020 5:39 PM

Another really excellent essay, this time by John Steppling that tells it like it is!

https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/08/if-you-are-reading-this-you-might-be-a-conspiracy-theorist/

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2020 10:47 AM

When you look at the figures the whole Covid ‘crisis’ is shown up for what it is and has been – viz. a total put-up job of scaremongering. Just do the maths and the figures come out in the UK at least as follows: Deaths of Corona Virus 0.06% of the total population What should also be added that these are overwhelmingly among the over 65s and/or the over 65s who also have underlying health problem, neither of which should come as any great surprise. I live on the outskirts of London and the figure for my borough comes out about the same as the national figures. Now the death rate is approaching negligible levels they PTB have stopped talking about deaths and instead are droning on about cases. But of course, the emphasis on cases rather than deaths is now their default position when they can’t refute the reality of the situation.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 26, 2020 11:49 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

And, if you factor in that “deaths of Corona Virus” (whatever that actually is) is likely a significantly exaggerated figure, even 0.06% is probably well over any actual figure.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 26, 2020 11:53 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

The findings of a German pathologist when carrying out post mortem examinations on ‘Covid19’ victims.



Big B
Big B
Aug 26, 2020 8:40 AM

The whole ethos of Degrowth is E F Schumacher’s “Small is Beautiful”: which is a human-scale person orientated “face-to-face” community based ethos. Much like the description here. One that is slower, closer to the Earth, and closer to each other. With localised economies to match: where economics would be “as if people mattered”. The basis of any market as such would be Special Purpose Money and fair exchange based on use value ….with limited or no resale profiteering (capitalism) and no derivative market.

On Saturday: the right-on people are going to march for ‘freedom’ to return to January as reset of Business As Usual. Which is a march for globalisation; perpetual unlimited growth on a small planet; depersonalised and dehumanised global ‘value’ chains; a ‘global village’ based ethos. One that is perpetually technologically speeding up (which is progress); a technocratic culture totally removed from the Earth; alienating everyone from everything as ‘separate individual unlinked’ identities. With a global economy as if the billionaires matter; with a globalised, liberalised market fundamentalism based on General Purpose Money (fiat); globalised Unequal Ecological Exchange, “imperial rent”, a global disadvantagous class system based on totalised, unethical surplus value extraction (where surplus value is actually life itself that is being extracted). Which is pure profiteering with a derivative market at least 75X larger than the ‘productive market’ which makes price discovery and fair exchange impossible and ‘value’ a more or less abstract subjective value.

So: for the price of ‘freedom’ we get the latter and not the former. But at least we do not have to wear face nappies. That seems like a fair trade to me.

And we do not have to mention the life less worthy of life or the life not worthy of life ever again. Or seek strategies of co-equality in which all life has equal access to life. Which is a moral political degrowth and ethical global redistribution strategy.

If the march for freedom is the turn toward the denouncing of BAU and rapid embrace of degrowth – then fine. If it is a display of moral relativism and bounded ethics – freedom from face nappies for us as a resumption of BAU (the old normal) – where is the compassion?

That is the opposite of freedom and compassion: the very nexus of unfreedom.

Décroissance ou barbarie: where barbarism is the new definition of freedom.

ame
ame
Aug 26, 2020 11:10 AM
Reply to  Big B

etymology linguists of thee word free dom and you see the idiots screaming freedom and democracy are clueless in the understanding of the legal terms used
aka it means the opposite

sars
sars
Aug 26, 2020 4:15 AM

The abuse, assaults, fines, and hate directed at the maskless is well deserved.. i just lost my next door neighbor to the SARS CoVid 19 virous, he was on a ventilator the last 6 days of his life, in pain, breathless, and red and blue everywhere, each breath a pain.. All because you would not wear your mask.. I hope they hang you before they cut your nuts out..

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Aug 26, 2020 6:25 AM
Reply to  sars

I don’t think this person caused your neighbour to get sick, and the ventilator probably killed him

zdb
zdb
Aug 26, 2020 6:36 AM
Reply to  sars

You have direct evidence that a maskless person caused your neighbor’s death?
You have no clue that any number of repeatedly proven therapies could have saved your neighbor and that ventilators have repeatedly proven to kill cv1984 patients? ivermectin? hcq zinc zpac? budesonide?

https://twitter.com/CovidSenseBloke/status/1297865055036411905
can you give me an example from this list of a country who improved after masking?

https://twitter.com/jhnhellstrom/status/1296707767751839744
Can you explain to us how Sweden did so well with no masks and no lockdown?

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1296766434383724544

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:23 AM
Reply to  sars

sars – All I can say is – were you wearing a mask for the flu epidemic last year? If yes, you may have a point. If no, then shut up!

covidiot
covidiot
Aug 26, 2020 7:28 AM
Reply to  sars

I hope they hang you before they cut your nuts out.

remember that violence is a two-way street, you f***ing nazi scumbag.

Tee ell
Tee ell
Aug 26, 2020 8:13 AM
Reply to  sars

Ooh this looks fun can I join in? I hope they make you wear my severed ballbag as a mask and then make you watch Devi Sridhar interviews on repeat.

DONNIE
DONNIE
Aug 26, 2020 10:53 AM
Reply to  sars

I lost my beloved ounty last week. She was 79. A smoker, a meat eater, strong coffe drinker for her whole live. Died from ishemic heart desease. Plus 4 or 5 other illnesses. No coroni on her death certiificate. Be damned you idiot. May you balls burn in hell.

Josephine
Josephine
Aug 27, 2020 12:09 AM
Reply to  DONNIE

This person is not real – the ridiculous spelling mistakes and the even more ridiculous comments show it’s either a bot or someone sad who gets paid for writing this crap- they’re so easy to spot..

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 26, 2020 10:56 AM
Reply to  sars

Do us all a favour and make sure you volunteer to be one of the first to be injected with the genocidal witches brew, Gates will jokingly call a vaccine. Go for it.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2020 12:19 PM
Reply to  sars

sars, please stick with us so you can direct us to the next group that deserves abuse, assaults, fines, and hate …
Sorry for your loss but you do no honour to your neighbour with your pathetic rant … shame on you.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 26, 2020 5:36 PM
Reply to  sars

“Someone seems dejected they were several hundred years too late for the Inquisition.”

It is sad that someone’s powers of critical thinking are not match for the CORPORATE FASCIST PROPAGANDA MACHINE and its BIG LIE.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 26, 2020 2:02 AM

One of the things that gives me hope is to remember the enemy is human, and prone to stupidity. I will freely use the term “enemy” because what I see authorities in this country doing is not for the interests of the public, whereas by definition this is supposed to be a nation serving the people, not special interests. There is by now considerable evidence to indicate the continuous clinging to weak and significantly countered (or opposed) arguments–on matters such as the virus is much more dangerous than it actually is for most people–that this behavior clearly shows the problem is politics, not science.

That something as monstrous as a coup to “re-set” a nation in globalist/fascist interests is the most difficult challenge for conspiracy theorists to explain at this time, as with previous times going back at least to JFK. Most people are conditioned to believe The Establishment is good, not evil. They ought to read more conspiracy theory books.
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Yesterday I read an encouraging piece of information, that I believe accurate, in a thread over at the UNZ site. In a well-developed piece a commenter stated that the Authorities must be very worried over a large and growing opposition to Lockdown. Authoritarian tactics have by now bred returned violence, and I keep wondering how much lockdown frustration plays into what’s happening night after night, along with other factors. .

I also see the Biden-Harris team as making serious mistakes, such as Biden’s saying if the scientists tell him to do so he will lock down the country. This stalwart running to lead a nation candidly admits here he needs to be told what to do. It’s also a demo of his threat toward being an authoritarian himself, which was then backed up by Harris who threatened parents over “virtual truancy” recently. I spoke to a mother of a five year old today. She is very worried over his 10 minute attention span, and that she cannot be home with him to supervise and console. This kind of total failure of empathy from Biden-Harris for ordinary folks, increasingly poor, will not bode well for them in the stupidity department.

The other day Cuomo canceled dancing and a number of other pleasure activities including the game Cornhole. Meanwhile, notice reports on the successes of those who didn’t lockdown keep coming out. The problem is Americans are not used to being deprived of their toys and consumer way of life, and will probably get more uppity. They won’t think of it all as stupidity, tho, whereas they should–and what I mean by stupidity is this–It’s the Phyrric Solution, that blowtorches the mosquito on the window ledge and burns down the house.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Aug 26, 2020 1:19 AM

WTF

There’s something particularly sad about seeing older adults choking on masks. There’s nothing normal about hiding half your face behind a schmatta, especially in the summer.  Most are wearing masks that are not designed to mitigate disease. You can bet they’re far from sterile and would not be issued as personal protective equipment. In fact, most people keep a mask hanging from their car’s rear-view mirror, it’s replaced religious baubles as the latest motor vehicle decor.  Haven’t you noticed, mainstream media news elevated medical shamans to deities. Charlatans, who will soon demand a sacrificial offering in the form of a rolled-up sleeve—ouch.  

COVID, makes every errand deliberate and drab. Gone are the days when grocery stores, hair salons, or other such businesses offered interesting 
samples of food or wine to quench and mollify their patrons. Now you throw on your face covering and run errands quickly getting in and out where before you might linger a bit longer. Window shopping lost all its appeal who wants to walk around stores with a mask impaled to your face–it’s no fun. But there’s something especially surreal about wearing a mask and walking by maskless groups in outdoor cafes. WTF….

Howard
Howard
Aug 26, 2020 3:40 AM

One would suppose that, rationally, people would be miserable and dreadfully uncomfortable wearing masks; but one would be wrong. Many people (I live in Maryland) actually wear their masks when taking the garbage to the dumpster. That surely indicates a level of comfort which is nothing short of frightening.

Besides those who have grown comfortable wearing masks are those who clearly seem to relish it – as if it’s something they have been waiting all their lives for. These souls will not be pleased if the mask should go the way of the horse and buggy. But I fear they have nothing to worry about.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Aug 26, 2020 3:49 AM
Reply to  Howard

I guess for some masks are like security blankets…….

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Aug 26, 2020 9:18 AM
Reply to  Howard

Simply they gain privilege/ virtue points. In their eyes.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 26, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Howard

It could well show a high level of fear, rather than comfort.

Arby
Arby
Aug 26, 2020 1:14 AM

Thank you.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 26, 2020 1:08 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
“Mask Mouth” Forms Gum Disease.Cavities.Stroke/ US Lawsuits Over Mask Mandates/ Doc Vaping Demo: Masks Don’t Work/ Live Missile Update: Lakeland Fla Mercenary Outfit With Shady Ties /Update: Coup In N. Korea

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Aug 25, 2020 11:49 PM

Human decency still surviving in far corners of the universe. Good to see!

Tom G
Tom G
Aug 25, 2020 11:25 PM

Gaw, somehow I recognise the seizing of opportunity for judgemental self-righteousness despite the context of putting down judgementalism, with

“I treat people exactly how I wish to be treated: … nonjudgmental”

followed by

“This …. was a perfect example of how we all should behave”.

The cognitive dissonance is, as ever with this author (well I think I know exactly who she is), ear-splitting and jaw-dropping.

gordon
gordon
Aug 25, 2020 11:22 PM

difficult times
yes sir ri bob
but i agree with the comment below
the mask is vital for your health

the burka must go
it is a threat to your safety
remember the terror ists
remember the bank robbers
remember the man and killer
dressed as woman burka clad
at heathrow
yes sir
the burka must go

safety not health

you sea
see for
the burka to be effective
against covids coroni
the eyes must be blanked out
as well

for are the eyes ears nose and mouth
not
all vector

masks for all
eye say
no burka for
the burka must go

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 10:58 PM

Catherine Austin Fitts tells Greg Hunter the central banks are moving all digital, and what we can do about it:

  • shutting down main street was a gambit to offset inflation due to money printing
  • digital currency is a credit at the company store, it will be scrip not money
  • if you don’t behave they will cut off your credit
  • digital currency will increase demand for gold
  • refugees who escaped Germany had ‘gold buried in the yard’
  • continue to develop your skills and some ability to barter
  • grow food if you can and natural herbs and remedies
  • do as much for yourself as you can. Develop building and maintenance skills.
  • stop using banks or organizations that don’t have integrity
  • we are entering a war period. You cannot have dirty players in your life
  • the covert intelligence operatives are making people incoherent
  • you cannot talk rationally to someone who is possessed: they are not there
  • don’t finance your own prison or your enemies
  • avoid the biotech or DNA or GMO companies
  • if you have wealth, work with real assets like real estate and metals
  • this is what WW3 looks like
  • the rich no longer want to share subsidies or benefits with the people
  • the rich pulled out their money leaving us high and dry
  • vulture capitalism is rampant as billionaires buy assets around the world
  • the plandemic is cover for a Global Reset of the economy and incomes
  • if your income was $65,000 a year, the reset will make that much less
  • police are being defunded, private security is growing leaps and bounds
  • BLM are being used to burn down properties by the block
  • This is not looting this is a redevelopment plan
  • BLM doesn’t give a damn for Black people. They are mercenaries.
  • Half the businesses burned down were owned by Black people.
  • BLM is going to get much more rough in minority neighbourhoods
  • we are not going back. Life is going to be very different

Portfolio adviser and former investment banker/ Assistant Secretary of Housing Catherine Austin Fitts https://youtu.be/HdfYJHglBLo

Stewart
Stewart
Aug 25, 2020 11:38 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Catherine Austin Fitts – one time crony of Mike Ruppert – telling us to “Buy Gold” – just like Mike Ruppert was back in the early noughties
It’s the same old scam – they bought it back in 2015 for like £750 an ounce and they’re going to sell it to you for £1500 today
ask yourself – what use is gold? buy tools and seeds, repair your house or buy some land
I agree that money is f*cked and there’s going to be some kind of reset, but do you really need a new iphone every year? the collapse of the financial system will hit the billionaires the hardest – if only we can learn to turn off the screens and start working together

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 11:45 PM
Reply to  Stewart

I agree and I ignore the ‘buy gold’. I don’t have the money. She is just saying that for Greg Hunter’s show – that’s his financial audience. CAF is also a portfolio adviser so metal is a topical issue that clients raise with her.

Listen to CAF’s analysis of society and government – she has deep experience of the way the moneyed elite think and the way they manipulate and loot the government. She has worked in both. I believe she is also a deeply humane person from listening to many interviews with her, which is encouraging given the lofty circles from which she escaped )

The Missing Money song:
https://tube.solari.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Missing-Money.mp4

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 26, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  Stewart

The billionaires have massively increased their wealth under the guise of ‘coronavirus’.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:29 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Eyes Open – You are absolutely correct. While small businesses and even large companies have gone down the pan, guess who’s been making billions during the pandemic? Big Tech and Big Pharma. And of course Bill Gates. His net worth went up by 16 billion alone last year.

zdb
zdb
Aug 26, 2020 6:45 AM
Reply to  Stewart

Buffett of all people sold out banks and bought Barricks. Fitts is right about gold just wrong about how hard authorities will make it for us to use it. Remember gold was criminalized before WWII, right? Just the same, agree with you on land and other survival assets. She probably does too.

Insanity if you think billionaires are losing any money now.
Even CNBC posts it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/16/billionaires-net-worth-grew-amid-covid-19-pandemic-from-market-lows.html

covidiot
covidiot
Aug 26, 2020 11:00 AM
Reply to  Stewart

It’s the same old scam – they bought it back in 2015 for like £750 an ounce and they’re going to sell it to you for £1500 today

so if you had then followed the advice they freely offered, you would have doubled your money already, with more gains to follow if you continue to hold it.

that’s not most people’s understanding of a “scam”. maybe you’re angry because you didn’t take the advice that was offered, or maybe you’re just an idiot.

the collapse of the financial system will hit the billionaires the hardest

if you believe that, you really are an idiot. they’ve been buying gold for years; it’s the suckers like you that are going to be left with the worthless paper money. get a clue.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 26, 2020 12:28 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“if you have wealth, work with real assets like real estate and metals”

– versus –

“the rich no longer want to share subsidies or benefits with the people”

Kate
Kate
Aug 26, 2020 9:46 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

It’s interesting that they mention demons. Alan Watt – cuttingthroughthematrix.com – touched on this on Sunday. He voiced the opinion that the psychopaths running everything in the background, aren’t just psychopaths. They have something else in them.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 10:33 PM

Isn’t it the case that the worst people at school are now in charge? How did that happen?

Some call it the revenge of the nerds. I think that lets them off lightly. We don’t want to admit that there are more psychopaths than we thought.

Psychopaths are rated to be 1% of the population and 25% of men in prison but how many politicians and crooked billionaires?

With regard to psychopaths, “We think the ‘uhs’ and ‘ums’ are about putting on the mask of sanity,” Jeffrey Hancock of Cornell University, told LiveScience.

Psychopaths appear to view the world and others instrumentally, as theirs for the taking, the team reported, including Stephen Porter from the University of British Columbia.

As they expected, the psychopaths’ language contained more words known as subordinating conjunctions. These words, including “because” and “so that,” are associated with cause-and-effect statements… something that ‘had’ to be done to achieve a goal.

And finally, while most of us respond to higher-level needs, such as family, religion or spirituality, and self-esteem, psychopaths remain occupied with those needs reflecting a more basic existence.

Their analysis revealed that psychopaths used about twice as many words related to basic physiological needs and self-preservation, including eating, drinking and monetary resources than the nonpsychopaths.

So listen up

How to Spot Psychopaths: Speech Patterns Give Them Away

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 11:39 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

These words, including “because” and “so that,” are associated with cause-and-effect statements… something that ‘had’ to be done to achieve a goal.

This is indicative of their major linguistic macro-trait: – they ‘narrativize’ *In The Extreme*, and *Constantly*… – It’s how they lay out their cons for the rest of us marks.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 25, 2020 10:31 PM

https://www.vanmorrison.com/news/2020/new-entry

Even Van Morrison thinks it’s a load of pseudo science!

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 26, 2020 2:21 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

And most of us here will agree with him.

Unfortunately, the ‘Discrediting Engine’ has been fired up in the form of his fans shouting him down.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Aug 25, 2020 10:17 PM

the muzzles have always been – the true face, buried and replaced behind masks of obedience – submerged under lessons and instruction, redundant through reliance to an invented system – breathing life aside on its imprisoning air of limitation – bound and sustained by the self-seeking milk flowing from its teat, and with eyes turned in, natural ability consumed by lifeless ease – are carried along under terminal scraps of simulated importance – where awakening the Truth is seen as a danger by all of the hive creation.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Aug 25, 2020 10:03 PM

What we need to do at this time is get everybody sewing away to make a mask big enough to surround the whole planet.
It can be lifted up by rockets and suspended from satellites.
This will protect us from the notorious n! virus which is being being sneezed onto our planet by mysterious Coronavidsars who live on the Moon.

Once we’ve done this to protect ourselves more thoroughly we can all get together and sew a smaller mask to envelop the Moon.

Safety at last.

But then there’s always the Sun to think about. An asbestos mask may work, but there are issues around handling and production let alone delivery as any cat worth it’s Schrödinger would know.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Aug 25, 2020 9:36 PM

Ah… COMPASSION! A commodity more expensive than a TESLA share!

bob
bob
Aug 25, 2020 9:25 PM

have a look at this too – a twitter group have been applying pressure to the Johnson regime

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/07/15/boyc-j15.html

now called ‘Parents United’ – this miserable crowd of fascists think they are doing Bliar’s ‘right thing’ – they have a website too – Boycottunsafeschools.co.uk

time to take them out as masks will be mandatory in England for 12 years plus in areas subject to strict covid restrictions and at the behest of headteachers in other areas – govt removing guidance that masks should not be used for children

Still want to just wait and see?????

Counter Economist
Counter Economist
Aug 25, 2020 9:54 PM
Reply to  bob

Useful idiots. Why is it that they are always former remainers with public sector or union links.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 10:48 PM

“Why is it that they are always former remainers with public sector or union links.”

…’Coz dat der do smell loik astroturf, fortiloized wiv *plenny* o’ NGO/nudge-unit/spook* man-oo-er, oi do bee-leeve!…

(* – But I repeat myself…)

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 25, 2020 10:41 PM
Reply to  bob

Face masks are health-wreaking cruelty.

Children are least affected by coronaviruses. At the same time they are still growing, so breathing fresh air is essential for healthy development.

Children also need to socialise during their formative years, without social distancing.

No doubt some children who are subject to this sadistic tyranny will develop lung infections, and many more still may become depressed.

These children’s ‘parents’ had the luxury of growing up during their own school years, without face masks or social distancing, but now they seem to relish imposing inhumanity on their innocent offspring.

Why did they have children?

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Aug 26, 2020 1:59 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

“Why did they have children?”

Because that’s what other people were doing.
Now THIS is what other people are doing, so they’re doing this.
It’s not mysterious.

RobG
RobG
Aug 25, 2020 9:19 PM

The UK Government still admits that this is all BS…

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK

This is not from some conspiracy site, it’s from the official UK Government web site.

At the time many of us saved this advisory notice to web archives, thinking that the UK Government would remove it. It’s still there, because the UK Government think that the public are a bunch of chumps/idiots (and they seem to be proved right).

RobG
RobG
Aug 25, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  RobG
Offlands
Offlands
Aug 25, 2020 10:07 PM
Reply to  RobG

This has been discussed before and sadly I do not think it is the smoking bullet you think it is and we want it to be. HCIDs can only be treated in specialist units of which there are very few in the U.K. By downgrading it, it allowed patients to be treated in mainstream wards rather than isolation poss.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 25, 2020 11:25 PM
Reply to  Offlands

That old chestnut. Problem is it makes no sense whatsoever. Why, when faced with a purportedly acutely dangerous disease threatening the population and meeting six criteria which classify it as an HCID, would you choose to declassify it because you haven’t the facilities to treat it? And none of those six defining criteria refers to the establishments designated to carry out treatment.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#definition-of-hcid

The reason explicitly given for removing Covid19 from the list is:

Several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

And there you have it; it couldn’t be clearer than that. The paragraph in the Covid19 Notice mentioning no longer treating cases at specialist units is simply a consequence of removing the disease from the list.

If it were the case that the capacity limitations at designated specialist units compromised the status of Covid19 as an HCID, the obvious remedy would be to add hospitals to the list of HCID treatment facilities in respect of Covid19.

Janie Doebuck
Janie Doebuck
Aug 25, 2020 9:17 PM

I am so glad to have found you, Dissenters and Skeptics of OR. I live in Oregon and living here with Kate Brown is like living in a wildly alcoholic family headed by an abusive parent – that’s the psychological riff on the situation. The political riff is that living in Oregon with Kate Brown with her unelected, unaccountable public health dictocrats as well as the breathtaking number of two-footed “baa”ers is that we are living in the early stages of totalitarianism.
I have been violently verbally attacked in Safeway as well as other places for not wearing a mask. Sometimes I wear a face shield which I consider to be a small mobile billboard on which I tape signs in large letters saying things like “:gov’t never lies…right”; “Covid-19? Follow the money”. My latest is “illegal to sue vaccine makers”…I’ve considered “How’s the Kool-Aid workin’ for ya” – what do you think?
It’s only just beginning both the madness…. and the resistance!

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 10:55 PM
Reply to  Janie Doebuck

A Brit, here… – Just curious: – Is Kate Brown any relation of ‘Moonbeam’ Jerry, former Gov of the state immediately to your south?

Kate Savannah
Kate Savannah
Aug 26, 2020 5:09 AM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Nope…no relation

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2020 5:22 AM
Reply to  Kate Savannah

Ah well… – seemed like they might be cloning them from somewhere.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:38 AM
Reply to  Janie Doebuck

Janie Doebuck – Glad to see you here. Even though we are living in a dictatorship in the UK, it seems like heaven compared to Oregon. I haven’t been challenged by anybody anywhere, either staff or the public. I feel very sorry for you, but keep up the fight. We will be thinking of you when protesting on your behalf in London on 29th August xx.

NikkiBop
NikkiBop
Aug 25, 2020 9:16 PM

I have similar lung problems and even wearing O2, the Community Food Co-op in Bellingham, WA called police on me and refused to take my money for 4 cups of yogurt. And they say they’re all peace and love….not. Kroger stores are the best. Mostly shop there now as never hassled.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:40 AM
Reply to  NikkiBop

NikkiBop – Support those who support you. Glad you have found somewhere decent to shop!

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Aug 25, 2020 9:14 PM

Nobody asks the question why do newsreaders not have to wear masks ?

JoeC
JoeC
Aug 25, 2020 10:02 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

The reason they don’t wear masks is because they want to spread as much propaganda as possible without missing a droplet.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 26, 2020 2:25 AM
Reply to  Marfanoi

Mate, they are the virus…

bob
bob
Aug 25, 2020 8:56 PM

forgive me, i’ve broken my own pledge not to post here again, but this is too vital as children are being ‘groomed’ to return to school – the criminality continues

it’s all very well being compassionate but ….

https://twitter.com/rob_miller12345/status/1298284406965260290/photo/1

read this about the possible way your children will be treated/taken from you due to covid19 measures from a teacher who has undertaken ‘covid training’ – whatever that is

THE CHILDREN OF BRITAIN ARE NOW THE POLITICAL PAWNS IN THIS FASCIST NIGHTMARE

and TONY BLIAR’S FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER IT

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Aug 25, 2020 9:08 PM
Reply to  bob

Yes its getting very bad.Confused kids already confused cos they kids.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 9:10 PM
Reply to  bob

If the school meeting described in this Tweet is true, Teachers are the vanguard of fascism.

Koba
Koba
Aug 26, 2020 5:25 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Most teachers are literally in the job just for the pension and the wage

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2020 4:22 PM
Reply to  Koba

Literally, most oceanographers prefer beef to tuna …

RobG
RobG
Aug 25, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  bob

if you haven’t already seen it I’m sure you’ll like this one…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 25, 2020 10:22 PM
Reply to  RobG
Deplorable D
Deplorable D
Aug 25, 2020 8:55 PM

I have found similar experiences. I do not wear a mask anywhere. Costco supposedly has a zero tolerance mask policy. Kroger, Home Depot, Target… no one bothers me. Only once was I approached at a grocery store. When I asked them what the change was the manager told me Gov Newsom had sent auditors to the area to audit stores not enforcing the mask order.

I did have an experience that enlightened another person. I was in a store shopping without a mask, and a man approached me and asked, “How did you get in here without a mask?”
I told him, “I just walked in. No one has approached me.”
“What about the mask mandate? Are you worried they will kick you out?”
“No. I never wear a mask and have never had a problem.”
“So then why am I wearing this thing? I do it because I did not want to be hassled.”
“I do am not afraid of being hassled, and I refuse to give up my freedom over symbolism.”
Then he took his mask off. His wife came over with some groceries she had been grabbing and he told her about our conversation. Then she took her mask off.

I find so many people understand the masks do nothing, but they wear a mask because they do not want to make others feel uncomfortable or be hassled. The problem with that thinking is perhaps everyone else is also wearing their mask just to make others feel comfortable. It just takes one person to stand up and say, “I will not comply.”

Dr Birx was recently heard saying, “When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult” to get people to comply.

A single pebble can cause ripples across a lake.

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 2:04 PM
Reply to  Deplorable D

I’m in the States. I have not worn a mask since the beginning of this thing except at 2 wakes and visiting my sister’s home for a critical visit. She is very concerned about the virus, and I respect that.

I don’t know how to explain that I just cannot wear that thing. Physically, emotionally or spiritually. I sometimes give myself the normie line of “Well, no one likes wearing it, but they do it out of concern. It’s just a mask. Put it on”

But I just can’t. I find it extremely uncomfortable, and oxygen defficient. And, yes, to me it is a sign of going-along. And I just can’t/won’t go along with this.

LIke others, I now have strained relations with family and friends which is difficult but doable. Live and let live. They are as committed to what they believe is a great threat (a virus) as I am deeply committed to what I believe is a great threat (totalitarianism and the great re-set).

I consider myself lucky. I have a downstairs neighbor who pretty much does not wear a mask, we have never distanced, and our neighborly relationship has not changed.

I no longer shop at my two local grocery stores or local post office because they have quite the attitude about the mask and it is just not worth it. I found another supermarket and post office in the next town.

The manager of my bank would not accept my medical condition card and was a bit of twat so I took my good little chunk of money and brought it elsewhere.

I am a runner and there is no way in hell I am running (or doing anything outdoors) with a mask. I would be grounded in a minute. It’s hilarious out on the road. People out for a walk see me coming and up goes the mask! as if my 2 seconds going by them will cause an infection. I guess they are saving me.

For the most part I go in and out of stores with no problem. Except for my former bank manager, when I say I have a medical condition store employees say “Oh OK”. Some are bothered by it but I look at that as more of a personality thing.

I was in a sort of customer service job for many years, sometimes as manager, and I was, admittedly, a “Karen”, very by the book. I dealt with mainly safety precautions so it was usually necessary – but people hated me! lol I see now, that sometimes I was unreasonable. I think karma is teaching me a lesson.

You know when I get a good laugh – when masked people ask “Did you forget your mask?”

HOW THE HELL COULD I FORGET MY MASK???? THERE’S THREE THOUSAND FLYERS ON YOUR DOOR TELLING US WE HAVE TO WEAR MASKS.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Aug 25, 2020 8:50 PM

My quick little mask story of the day.

I live in an area rife with lib/progs- you could say the epicenter of this brand of hypocrisy in the USA. It’s always voted as one of the top 10 “progressive cities in America” which the Chamber of Commerce uses endlessly.

In short mask wearing is seen as a civic duty and compliance is easily 80% and I mean even on hot sunny days where people are walking outside. Fighting against that tide every day and frankly up to the task.

Stopped at a gas station on my way home just an hour ago to get gas. 20 something employee with gas station logo-shirt is coming out of the door of gas station wheeling an empty dolley as I’m about to enter to pre-pay. He says, “Excuse me sir, we are very strict at this store you can’t go in without a mask.” Without missing a beat and very sharply I state, “I have a medical disability and if you say another word about it I’m going to sue you into the next county!”

He immediately cows and says, “I’m sorry sir, okay.”

I go in and pay for the gas.

F*ck these people.

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 2:07 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

People on hot days. I just don’t get it. Well, yes, I do, but still.

And children in masks on hot days. I want to cry.

I am walking in an arboretum yesterday – healthiest place in the world to breathe – and a fellow comes jogging by me with what looked like a soakiing wet bandana face covering – “Where’s your mask M’am?”

“At home with my Scarlett Letter, Sir!”

Shardlake
Shardlake
Aug 26, 2020 3:44 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Good for you. You have to feel some sort of compassion for the employee who was probably just carrying out his employer’s instruction. Who knows, he may feel exactly the same way as you and I but not permitted to express that viewpoint.

richard
richard
Aug 25, 2020 8:24 PM

Back in the 1930s it took the Nazis a few years to take control. Today, the world’s population has rolled over in a few months based on fraudulent information.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Aug 25, 2020 9:12 PM
Reply to  richard

Yes.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Aug 25, 2020 9:15 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

All info has been fraudulent.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Aug 25, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

Nobody knows whats going on or what has gone on.DISCUSS.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:43 AM
Reply to  richard

richard – Tanks and a gun is so ‘old hat’ these days!

richard
richard
Aug 25, 2020 8:21 PM

Sure i wear my mask but below my nose. It gives me great pleasure to look around and think idiots.

Yahya Adams
Yahya Adams
Aug 25, 2020 8:40 PM
Reply to  richard

I go one further and put it below my mouth as well… But to be honest everyone else looks at us and thinks idiots lol

richard
richard
Aug 25, 2020 9:06 PM
Reply to  Yahya Adams

I take mine off pretending I am feeling ill.

Jean Wilson
Jean Wilson
Aug 25, 2020 11:11 PM
Reply to  richard

One of the ear loops broke and now (if i have to) wear a mask it is dangling from one ear. I can hold it over my mouth for a few seconds (if i have to). Mostly, i keep myself unmasked.

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 2:09 PM
Reply to  richard

Oh, I’ve actually thought putting the mask on and fainting. Right in the store.

gordon
gordon
Aug 25, 2020 9:13 PM
Reply to  richard

a mask is a pledge
a deal
contract
consent
put the mask on your ear
on your chin
no matter
the deal is done

welcome
no welcome
satan

branded bagged and tagged

human harvested

bet you purchased your mask badge on amazon

i am trying to be nice
but you are sold

and now beyond my jurisdiction

Gwyn
Gwyn
Aug 25, 2020 8:12 PM

As someone asked on these comment threads not long ago, if masks are effective, why would a mask-wearer care about whether other people wear them or not? They’re totally safe with their little face-nappies on, surely?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 8:36 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

It’s the Human CA PI TAL Market.

We are being played with. These are humiliation rituals. It is slave training.

There is a restaurant that is requiring waiters to wear dog cones, say David Weiss & Sofia Smallstorm on SGT Report https://youtu.be/_p3Ism7KDAk

Gwyn
Gwyn
Aug 25, 2020 9:55 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I thought I had it bad, having to wear a mask when I take the young man for whom I’m a support worker to an activities centre once or twice a week (for an hour or two).

Dog cones, though, are a whole other level of humiliation.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 10:04 PM
Reply to  Gwyn

Maine Governor Instructs Restaurant Employees to Wear Dog Cones (Sort Of)
The Governor of Maine has ordered restaurant staff to wear anti-COVID visors upside down so they resemble dog cones in order to direct breath upwards.

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Gwyn
Gwyn
Aug 25, 2020 10:29 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Whoever came up with that monstrosity of an idea has got far too much time on their hands.

(They probably think they’re a genius, too…).

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 11:04 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yeah… I saw this one the other day, somewhere’s. – They’ve been *Openly* trolling us for a while now…

…- Remember these from a while back?:
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Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 25, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Sadism has entered the mainstream.

Diners who patronise said establishment are endorsing this Guantanamo Bay style staff regime.

Ort
Ort
Aug 26, 2020 1:13 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Del Bigtree did a piece on this. I keep hoping it will be revealed as a satirical photo from “The Onion” or comparable site.

BTW, the collar’s red background and white “swoosh” looks very “Coca-Cola” to me. I thought the swoosh might be a reflection but it looks too crisp. 

Of course, if this abomination catches on, and is actually forced on waitstaff, they will be prime space for corporate, commercial, and propaganda logos, themes, and messages. Please let this be a satire or prank!

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:48 AM
Reply to  Ort

Del Bigtree is the man! That’s why he got deleted from YouTube. Fortunately he is still going on his own website.

Max
Max
Aug 25, 2020 7:50 PM

All the above including lockdowns, antisocial distancing, muzzles and vaccines can go away when enough numbers of us say “NO”. Some might say there are not enough of us opposing these narratives or people are sheep and so on, however, if those who are aware don’t broadcast what they know, later on they will be the same as ignorant ones. Incidentally, check out the demonstrations in London and Berlin on 29th August.

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:50 AM
Reply to  Max

Max – Mass non-compliance is the way to go, but not enough of the general public on board unfortunately. Will be in Trafalgar Square on 29th at 12pm.

jane randall
jane randall
Aug 25, 2020 7:40 PM

I live in France where masks are mandatory in shops and , in some places, in town, like just outside….Luckilly we’re extremly rural so despite my refusal to wear a mask, so far, I’ve not been challenged. Haven’t had the bottle yet to try the big multis, here I’ve found the small retail outlets still going, are grateful for my custom, masked or not…..I’ve set myself a mission, go in one, new shop a week, unmasked…..So far it’s worked, Ish….Strimmer got fixed outside in the carpark, which was ok! But I truelly scared the poor woman in the tabac, she was terrified by my lack of mask, I’m truely sorry, I dodn’t meam to intimidate anybody
……We need to resist in any way possible!!!!!

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 25, 2020 7:25 PM

When I walk into a store (sans mask), if I’m called out, I turn round and walk out. Their loss, not mine, there’s loads of stores in London. My local Coop has never said a word to me except to thank me for my business. Even the Sainsburys in Clapham, says nairy a word to me, it’s all smiles. I don’t know about elsewhere, but I think people are reaching their limit. Expect more confrontations as the fear ebbs.

Deplorable D
Deplorable D
Aug 25, 2020 9:24 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

As Dr Birx recently said, “When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult” to get people to comply.

Keep resisting!

Gizmo007
Gizmo007
Aug 26, 2020 7:53 AM
Reply to  Barovsky

Sainsburys and the Co-op the way to go. Never a problem with either of them here up North.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 25, 2020 7:20 PM

This is a brilliant, must read article:

https://www.aier.org/article/governments-are-faking-it-and-copying-each-other/

Extract:

I invite you to examine a very interesting study published by the National Academy of Sciences: Explaining the homogeneous diffusion of COVID-19 nonpharmaceutical interventions across heterogeneous countries

A clearer title might be: how so many governments behaved so stupidly at once. The theory they posit seems highly realistic to me: 

We analyze the adoption of nonpharmaceutical interventions in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries during the early phase of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. Given the complexity associated with pandemic decisions, governments are faced with the dilemma of how to act quickly when their core decision-making processes are based on deliberations balancing political considerations. Our findings show that, in times of severe crisis, governments follow the lead of others and base their decisions on what other countries do. Governments in countries with a stronger democratic structure are slower to react in the face of the pandemic but are more sensitive to the influence of other countries. We provide insights for research on international policy diffusion and research on the political consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic.

I rest my case

richard
richard
Aug 25, 2020 8:27 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Am forwarding on to all my contacts.

Ort
Ort
Aug 25, 2020 9:00 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Thanks for recommending this article. You’re right.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 25, 2020 9:36 PM
Reply to  Ort

Thanks. I’ve been having the same thoughts about how virtually every country on the planet played ‘follow my leader’ and I started conspiricising over it (Israel, I think, was the first country to go whole hog lockdown), it just never occurred to me that virtually every country’s political class was clueless and easily led by the nose.

Ort
Ort
Aug 25, 2020 9:57 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Not to backpedal, but although I do approve of simple(r), straightforward explanations of seemingly-mysterious coordinated institutional activity, I don’t think it’s necessarily an either-or. 

By this I mean that for me, accepting that governments and institutions fatuously “copy” each other like a class full of cheating students furtively peering at each other’s exam papers doesn’t entirely rule out more explicit, deliberate conspiratorial or collusive overclass skulduggery and chicanery.

I’m not one of those people who love to rush in clamoring “Occam’s Razor!”, and wielding it harum-scarum, like 1950s juvenile delinquents waving around a switchblade knife at a rumble.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 25, 2020 10:27 PM
Reply to  Ort

Yes, I think the answer is to be found, in what was actually done, rather than how or why it spread, namely social distancing, masks, lockdowns. These emerged from, where else but Blighty and the Behavioural Psychologists at Imperial College eg, Mindspace’ – Influencing behaviour through public policy‘

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 27, 2020 6:59 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Well, think on this: 99% of all UK’s MPs have no degree in a STEM subject. They are all technologically and biomedically illiterate. So of course they are clueless and easily led.

The Civil Servants are the same.

It suits billionaires to have clueless, suggestible drones in positions of political authority.The last thing they want is for their money-making schemes to be kiboshed by someone who actually knows what they are talking about and is prepared to stand up to unelected autocrats.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 27, 2020 7:25 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Well Rhys I think it’s actually worse than you say. Most of the skilled civil service nomenklatura have gone (fired/resigned) and the admin outsourced (ie sold off) to crony capitalist friends of those fuckers, Bojo, Cummings et al. Hence the total incompetence. So 500 years of perfecting Machiavelli’s machinations have gone straight down the toilet.

Howard
Howard
Aug 25, 2020 9:57 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

I believe there’s a simpler explanation than copycat nations (you know: Occam’s Razor). It’s called IMF and World Bank. Almost every nation in the world is in hock to these two vampires – both of which have adopted the pandemic paradigm. Doubtless the paradigm is being foisted on the nations which depend almost totally on the IMF and World Bank for their GDP.

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 12:44 PM
Reply to  Howard

That’s my thinking also, Howard. From what I understand so many countries are in debt to IMF and World Bank, which I translate into in debt to USA.

In any case, one can just imagine trying to go against that grain.

I don’t know how people can look at the fact that the WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD was locked down, masked, and completely in lock step with everything from crazy statistics to deaths in nursing home to fake photos, and not question the validity.

Howard
Howard
Aug 26, 2020 3:16 PM
Reply to  Judith

I think perhaps for ordinary people the situation is even more precarious than for nations beholden to IMF and World Bank. Most people, as incomprehensible as it is, seem to have spent their entire lives living in a bubble universe, wherein the Authorities were benevolent and served entirely at the people’s pleasure.

For them now to admit they are being played for fools would necessarily make them wonder if they had been played for fools all along. And since (and this is THE crucial part of the equation) most people will continue living their lives with barely a bleep no matter how totalitarian the Authorities become, they have little to lose.

For most people – at least in First World nations – “freedom” means one thing only: being able to buy the latest gadget to play with. This is why I see absolutely no hope for humanity.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 25, 2020 11:04 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Hence why I can’t forgive China.

It seems however, that lockdowns have been planned and orchestrated globally, and well in advance. Countries are not copying other countries but simply obeying orders.

Orders from whom?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2020 2:34 AM
Reply to  Eyes Open

Agreed. Much as I’ve come to admire the AIER since discovering them recently, I think they’re *way wide of the mark* on this…

…- You don’t need to don the ol’ tinfoil hat to be able to understand that:

a) The WHO is the world coordinating body for global medical/public health policy and action, from which *All* national governments, their respective medical associations and public health administrations take their cue.

b) Both the WHO (ie: the UN) and *All* national governments (at least the ones that *really* matter… 😉 ) answer to a higher power, that being ‘Globocap’ (see: financial system troubles/need for another bailout/’Great Reset’, etc.).

…After all, every decent heist caper needs a good bait-and-switch…

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 25, 2020 5:18 PM

This is horrifying, I mean utterly ghastly, I mean …oh just read it!:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/08/25/albi-a25.html

A student’s disturbing account of the unsanitary conditions on returning to college. He notes “I noticed how filthy the room was” and supplies pictures of …rooms with …walls and stuff …um …. Oh yeah there’s a window over there. Shocking! It’s shut! And if it was open that would be even worse! And there’s a shower area which has got tiles …I mean actual tiles! Have these people no shame?

Sorry – can’t speak anymore. Too distressed!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 25, 2020 6:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Oh God, poor kids are « hit » by this scam efficiently. They must be happy that they got the young

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Aug 25, 2020 7:23 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Last week WSWS had as its day’s top story a promo piece for….. Fauci, the Fountain of Truth.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 7:55 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It reads like autism. Not enough sanitizers – go buy a $1 packet of wipes. Covid didn’t cause them to install more water fountains – back to Trader Joes. Pack of water. Or hire a Kanga and start drilling up the floors.

Room’s dirty? Clean it. Or stand in the corridor and bawl for service until Antifa or BLM checks your priviledge.

I am a bit OCD. On a plane I whip out a wipe and ‘do’ the surfaces. Hotels are generally OK but I’ve still got the wipes.

‘it should be’… mommy, dad? And the WSWS caters to this just like The Harridan. Maybe there’s some market research that tells news outlets to cultivate narcissism to build readership.

The student is downright cognitively dissonant:
“Students have raised concerns over the app’s invasive big-brother style tracking of users’ locations.”

“As expected, the administration failed again to provide any information on the identity, living location, travel locations or occupation of the infected individual.”

My 10-year-old gets a telling off for such precious behavior.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2020 2:44 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Dude, *I’m* autistic, and lemme tell you: – Shit like this just *creases me right up*… 😀

…Hell! – you should see the state of *my* room… – Beirut, c. 1983 ain’t got *Nuthin’* on it!…

…If this shit keeps up, my guess is before long we’ll have to swaddle our newborns in bubble-wrap the second they pop out…

*SMH*.

Gwyn
Gwyn
Aug 25, 2020 8:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Same here, George. I’m in bits over that young person’s harrowing ordeal. Why is the world so cruel? WHY?!?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 9:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You’ll *Love* this, then George… – *Hot* off the press, heh-heh:…

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/498970-full-stops-generation-z

“Ending a message with a period has come to “signify an abrupt or angry tone of voice” to Generation Z, some linguists claim, arguing that in the era of ubiquitous texting and instant messaging, full stops are no longer necessary to merely indicate the end of a sentence.

An idea’s conclusion is implied by the end of the message, they insist (because nobody communicates in more than one sentence at a time anymore, apparently – you just hit ‘send’ and start a new message). When full stops are used, they’re supposedly interpreted as “ominous” or emotionally charged by the hyper-sensitive young people reading the message.”

…- Whatever next?!… 🙂

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 9:34 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Well, I guess stop signs must be aggressive, offensive and unnecessary, too.

“Stop signs are no longer necessary to merely indicate the end of a road. A journey’s conclusion is implied by the end of the road, they insist (because nobody drives on more than one road at a time anymore, apparently — you just hit ‘pedal’ and start a new existence).

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2020 2:07 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Alright! – Death Proof, here we come!…

BTW, I couldn’t help noticing you used a few outlawed periods yerself, in your comment there… – you’re not yelling at me, are you?…

😉

…Howabout colons?… – Does that mean the speaker is about to go all psycho-killer axe-crazy on your ass?…

…- Guess soon we’ll all have to submit to our regular .gov-mandated colonoscopy, just to be ‘safe’… – heh.

Howard
Howard
Aug 25, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Several years ago (as in thirty or so), a fellow worker got into hot water because he emailed an employee in another office AND USED ALL CAPS! His drubbing went on for a couple hours. So even if you omit the period, never ever USE CAPS.

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 1:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well, firstly (if that’s even a word) I now know what the wsws is. I’ve been reading about it on this comment board for months and was too lazy to check it out.

Secondly (I think that’s a word), the article has to be a joke, right? It could not possibly in any way, shape, or form, be serious.

I will not be reading the wsws because just looking at the posted articles “corona cases SKY-ROCKET” (my caps) gives me the shivers.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 26, 2020 1:34 PM
Reply to  Judith

Think of me as the guy who reads the WSWS so you don’t have to!

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 1:44 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Good deal.

I haven’t read msm in years. Usually, in the morning with coffee I would go to the earth’s major search engine news and just read headlines from all over the world to stay abreast of same old same old. Then I would hit my independent media sites to do actual reading.

Since March I cannot stomach even looking at msm headlines as it is all covbs all the time.

So it’s just independent sites now, and a good deal more of them – Offguardian being one since I saw Kit Knightly on an interview with James Corbett of Corbett Report.

Isn’t to say I believe or agree with everything on independent sites, but at least their is wheat to separate from the chaff.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 26, 2020 3:33 PM
Reply to  Judith

The really sobering thing is that the WSWS is meant to be a “dissident” site. It was fairly reliable up until COVID, after which it became indistinguishable from the BBC. In fact, if anything, it was even more doomy.

My impression is that the ones initially dishing out the big horror story knew they only had to do a brief “start up” along with an enticing tag about the incompetence of the ruling powers and how the virus was an indictment of capitalism etc. and all those Left sites took the bait and ran with it.

Spinky
Spinky
Aug 25, 2020 5:16 PM

Much ado about nothing. Masking is totalitarian control. Humanity can and should strive for a higher understanding of the world and of nature than to sink to this level. Good luck to you all.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 25, 2020 4:53 PM

Like a fairytale monster that’s suddenly come to life after a thousand of years of slumber, we see who the fascists are – our own politicians, news readers, celebrities. This is the biggest shock for me. They are familiar faces, and they’re everywhere.

I can’t breathe properly whilst wearing face masks. They induce a feeling of slow suffocation. A few times I’ve felt as if I might pass out.

It’s impossible not to juxtapose my reality with the mendacious narrative that’s being spun by the MSM. My truth versus wall-to-wall lies.

Every single talking head of influence who is pushing the wearing of face masks, especially on children, is promoting violence.

kevin king
kevin king
Aug 25, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

They are child abusers. Only a pedophile ranks lower.

Ort
Ort
Aug 25, 2020 8:51 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

I still have an advertisement I received in the mail several weeks ago: a postcard from an outfit called “BioReference Laboratories”. The postcard was headed “Interested in COVID-19 Antibody Testing?”, and announced the opening of a facility in a local shopping mall in June.

The left half of the postcard is a photo of a young “father-figure” and a corresponding “son-figure” (who looks to be about four years old) standing on a staircase. The father at the foot of the staircase is masked, and the child is standing on a lower step while the father lovingly places a mask upon his face.

I still seethe with outrage when I glance at this perverse “Pietà”. In the Internet Age, I suppose the laws against sending exposed pornographic materials via the post aren’t used much any more. But I was tempted to call the Post Office and ask whether I could file a complaint.

It brings to mind SCOTUS Justice Potter Stewart’s famous 1964 remark about “obscenity”: “I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description, and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it…”

This “masked Everyman Dad masking Everyman son” image is definitely obscene!

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 25, 2020 9:03 PM
Reply to  Ort

I agree with every word. It’s appalling, and why I’m a misanthrope.

Shame on all those who took part in that fascist propaganda. Human stupidity and a basic lack of empathy will destroy the human race.

sophiejo
sophiejo
Aug 25, 2020 4:24 PM

We simply must not feel anxious about defending our defiant stands against the mask. Instead, we must be the ice-cream that licks back. This is how I did it: An obese shop assistant set upon me in my local supermarket, telling me that I am irresponsiquietly ble, I shall infect people, cause more lockdowns, pay a huge fine, and more. I asked her why she is in the supermarket. That stopped her short. Before she had time to recover, I put the boot in: ‘Obese people were told to stay at home, for they are a high-risk infection group.’ You know what? She burst into tears! And I am not even passingly repentent.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 25, 2020 7:29 PM
Reply to  sophiejo

Hmmm… she’s as much a victim as you are, of an economic system that literally weighs her down.

sophiejo
sophiejo
Aug 26, 2020 12:17 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

No, she is not a victim. She, like all religious mask wearers, is an apparatchik victim maker — or hoping that she can be. And sorry, bu the system is not weighing me done; I fight it. But I like your pun.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 26, 2020 12:28 PM
Reply to  sophiejo

‘apparatchik victim maker’? No, she’s an ordinary person just like you but swayed by the overwhelming propaganda that has her living in fear and, like millions of other Brits, young and old, she’s been fed a diet that’s been literally killing her. Perhaps a little more empathy for her and more anger directed at the system that’s made her what she is?

sophiejo
sophiejo
Aug 26, 2020 12:46 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

No thanks. She wants to be an enforcer of the system. The masks decree is probably the best chance she has ever had to weigh in on the side of the decree-making power. Why empathy? That is for the decent people who suffer. She is having a ball. It is people of her kind who facilitate the path of tyranny.

‘she’s an ordinary person just like you ‘: She is an ordinary person. But she bears no resemblance to me. The ‘ordinary’ are the militant and passive mask-wearers — the majority, sadly.

sophiejo
sophiejo
Aug 26, 2020 1:22 PM
Reply to  sophiejo

PS: ‘the system that’s made her what she is?’ Did the system make you? You esteem the system far too highly.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 26, 2020 3:34 PM
Reply to  sophiejo

Yes of course it did! And you. You’re aiming at the wrong target.

sophiejo
sophiejo
Aug 26, 2020 4:27 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Eh?

Tee ell
Tee ell
Aug 25, 2020 8:31 PM
Reply to  sophiejo

I would rather tell her she’s at less risk than this time last year and I hope she has a good day.

sophiejo
sophiejo
Aug 26, 2020 12:21 PM
Reply to  Tee ell

You know, she elicited no kindness from me. The apparatchik needs slapping down. How else does one stop them?

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 26, 2020 4:31 PM
Reply to  sophiejo

But she’s NOT the apparatchik. What is your problem?

Mikhail
Mikhail
Aug 25, 2020 4:01 PM

She saw you as a fellow, as another human being. I´m very glad about it, there are REAL persons, true human beings “out there”. Congrats..! All the best for you, be safe..!

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 25, 2020 3:44 PM

When certain groups of people get demonised or dehumanised, acts of compassion toward them become more difficult or less likely. Who wants to help bad guys? Those most aware of this include German Jews, Soviet peasant-farmers, Chinese nationalists, Christians in Muslim majority nations, and so on. Those wearing MAGA hats or not wearing masks are more recent targets for demonising. There is no sign of tolerance, empathy or compassion among those who demonise others. The endless, mindless demonising of non-leftists as stupid, inferior or fascist is why I left the left.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Aug 25, 2020 3:44 PM

This meme that if you do not wear a face diaper (nappy for you Brits), you are a grandma killer shows just how shrewd and psychopathic our Overlords are. It no longer involves a personal risk to ones self (with the false assumption that masks are more efficient than chicken wire to keep mosquitos out of one’s house), but an act of vicious and homicidal aggression toward all other humans. I regard healthy, fit people who refuse to wear face diapers as heroes.

Ort
Ort
Aug 25, 2020 8:28 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

I feel especially curmudgeonly and misanthropic to keep bringing this up, but it’s not only the accusation of being a “grandma killer”.

I live in the USA. As I apparently never get tired of posting, not too long ago I had separate conversations with two 60something women. One is highly educated, and a typical conformist moderate who regards The New York Times as gospel; the other one left high school after becoming pregnant, worked as an office administrator, and seems to rely on cable networks like MSNBC. Both consider themselves “progressives”.

The educated woman went to a lot of trouble to get a second vaccination “just to be on the safe side” even though her doctor told her that it wasn’t necessary– she was well within the efficacy period of a previous vaccination. The other one agreed with much of my criticisms about the bogus mask-wearing edicts, but said that she still wears a mask, and sometimes gloves, when she goes out.

Both women independently said that they felt compelled to take these precautions “for the sake of their grandchildren”. So these grannies have an irrational compulsion to take unnecessary and even potentially harmful “precautions” because of a fear that otherwise, they might be “grandchild killers”.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 25, 2020 10:56 PM
Reply to  Ort

Ort, you should be a writer. You’re the best on here.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Aug 25, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Add to it the twisted fact that the majority of those who were killed by this vicious medical malfeasance and homicidal policy changes were those grandmas (and grandpas) and you have a sadistic rationale being played out before our eyes.

What is that classic form of propaganda that you accuse others of doing exactly the crime you committed so that when those accusations are made against you it is harder for them to stick?

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Aug 25, 2020 3:42 PM

If lockdowns, social distancing and masks worked, should we not have seen a massive reduction in colds, flu, pneumonia, etc?

Someone
Someone
Aug 25, 2020 4:17 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Do we even have the numbers for cold and flu this year?

Someone
Someone
Aug 25, 2020 4:28 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Thks

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 25, 2020 7:34 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The problem now is one of separating out actual SARS-COV-2 from ‘seasonal flu’, since the changes brought about by the Coronavirus Act, here in the UK (ditto the US, interestingly), mean that it’s now impossible to know what a person dies from/with or otherwise.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2020 3:06 AM
Reply to  Barovsky

I actually gamed this out a few months back, right after the ONS and PHE (UK) changed-up on their reporting standards and started *outright lying* about *basically everything*, after OffG and Co. got *a little too close to the truth*:…

– Versus rising Covid, you would see a concurrent drop in Flu, Cold and Pneumonia stats, likely falling away to *virtually nothing*…

…- So here’s what you do: – Go back over the ONS stats (Or you particular country’s national statistics bureau) for the last five years, plus the five-year moving average for those common illnesses and compare to the ONS stats for this year. – I think you’ll be *very surprised*…

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2020 2:54 AM
Reply to  Someone

According to the Metro, flu and colds have virtually *disappeared*… – ‘Parently it’s all down to hand sanitizing and social distancing, not the stats being cooked worse than Enron’s books, oh no-Siree… – Ho, ho!…

Judith
Judith
Aug 26, 2020 1:10 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Oh the flu and pneumonia have just disappeared around here.

I think it got swept up into the cake mix of covid.

Along those lines, I now question statistics about annual flu deaths. Really? Thousands and thousands die? Maybe. I just question it now given that flu vaccines are now de rigueur year after year after year.

Deplorable D
Deplorable D
Aug 25, 2020 9:12 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

7/31 CDC guidance to the states noted, “Researchers lack evidence masks offer any protection against coronavirus.”

8/6 CDC header on the CDC mask web-page, “A mask may not protect the wearer, but it may keep the wearer from spreading the virus to others.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

Not even the CDC can promote the lie anymore.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Aug 25, 2020 3:34 PM

Holistic physician and expert on molecular biology, Andrew Kaufman, explains in some detail that any HS B student of biology can understand how our Overlords are pulling off this scandemic. Turns out that the probes of many of the rt-PCR test are giving a positive for an 18 base DNA sequence found on all human #8 chromosomes. What a surprise!!! And of course the positive “tests” allow for fake infection rates and contagiousness regardless if there are any symptoms as well as CV-1984 deaths being recorded for such fatalities such as the recent motorcycle crash in Florida. It’s all bollocks.
The video may be found (for the moment) at:

and if gootube pulls it, at:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4bwTCk5pOiup/?list=subscriptions

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 26, 2020 10:23 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Chromosome 8 issue analysed here as well…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 3:28 PM

OTCT (Off-topic conspiracy theory). Why does the International Space Station’s Cupola have square windows?

I thought square windows were to blame for ending Britain’s lead in civilian jet airliners when two de Havilland Comets came to grief within months of each other. Two fatal flights took off from Ciampino airport in Rome, in January and April 1954. Rome being center of operations for the U.S. Commercial Interests Agency at that time.

Those two crashes put Comet out of business for long enough for Boeing to build a rival airliner, undercut de Havilland, and turn the Mockinbird Media against the “dangerous” Comet. The result was 70 years of Boeing dominance.

The Harridan, Aug 25, 2020: ‘From the mundane to the sublime in a second’: Samantha Cristoforetti on life in space

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Aug 25, 2020 3:09 PM

Population of Oregon – about 4million

Official covid deaths as of Aug 24th – 422

422 divide by 4,000,000 = 0.0001055

What’s happening is demonic

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
Aug 25, 2020 3:46 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

And it’s happening so much more in states controlled by Democrats.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 4:12 PM

Clearly this virus is a *political* animal…

kevin
kevin
Aug 25, 2020 4:24 PM

Maybe true in general, but some Republican states aren’t any better. From Florida:

“Pursuant to Executive Order 20-80 and the Florida Department of Health declaration of a public health emergency, the state health officer and surgeon general can order any individual to be examined, tested, vaccinated, treated, isolated or quarantined for COVID-19.”

In other words, Florida already has a law for forced vaccination.
https://medium.com/future-done-right-tm/forced-vaccination-does-your-state-require-it-77e7d9830c16

Deplorable D
Deplorable D
Aug 25, 2020 9:06 PM
Reply to  kevin

De Santis and Abbott (of Texas) are both planning on running for President in 2024. They have to play the game just in case…. Neither realize the real star in the Republican Party right now is Gov Noem, who did not lockdown her state (S Dakota) nor order masks.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 26, 2020 4:05 PM

https://www.deviantart.com/redamerican1945/art/Eugene-V-Debs-Republican-Democratic-Party-674343047

“The political scam/racket so corrupt it needs two aliases”

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 25, 2020 7:39 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

They wouldn’t even lie on the already fake numbers of fake infections to make it stick. That’s contempt for citizens intelligence.

Arby
Arby
Aug 27, 2020 7:46 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Demonic you say? “What The Heqt?!” / https://arrby.wordpress.com/2020/08/26/covid-19-what-the-heqt/

Lee
Lee
Aug 25, 2020 3:03 PM

I think I’m missing something in this article. What is causing this person to be dizzy and to have breathing problems if they’re not wearing a mask? I read over the article a couple of times, but there doesn’t seem to be any mention of a pre-existing condition that is making them weak and unable to carry out the rest of their shopping unaided. I hope Oregon Dissenter is otherwise well, but do wonder if the lockdown is producing agoraphobia as another unwelcome byproduct.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Aug 25, 2020 3:11 PM
Reply to  Lee

I knew the medical exemption for indoor mask wearing was meant for people like me

Surely that suffices?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 3:03 PM

Why must it involve violence, hatred, shame, and anger?

…Because *They* thrive upon these emotions, and add to the list, – especially *Fear*…

…- *They* get high on them – I have *literally* seen it first-hand.

Arby
Arby
Aug 27, 2020 7:50 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Yep. Once you self-modify – jettison your humanity and the God-given qualities that go with that – you then acquire twisted values and desires. When you ditch the golden rule for ‘riches for the strongest’, a very black rule, you find that you get a thrill from taking the means of survival from those who are vulnerable and weaker than you are. That gives you a thrill. It inflates your dangerous ego.

It’s a free universe. We are all free to self-modify, but no one is exempt from consequences, even if some (like Bill Gates) think that they are.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 25, 2020 3:01 PM

No words necessary.



Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 25, 2020 3:43 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

“Tedros puts it.. the covid pandemic has given new impetus to climate change. What does coronavirus have to do with climate change. Bet you didn’t see that coming… ?”

Tucker should — I think it’s evident to many of us here. Event Covid is another problem reaction solution, to which the solutions are suspiciously the same. The solutions are identical to those expressed in UN Agenda 21, Climate Change, the Green New Deal, the Club of Rome, the World Economic Forum, the World Wildlife Fund, and other elite environmental clubs.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 25, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

*All* roads lead to the Club of Rome…

Arby
Arby
Aug 27, 2020 7:53 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yep. Whitney Webb drives that point home. She brings it up in a number of discussions, including one that I took an excerpt from: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y0kySlUfEE7s/

kevin
kevin
Aug 25, 2020 4:33 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

Canada’s chief public health officer told us a few weeks ago that even with a vaccine we would need to continue with masks and social distancing for 2 to 3 years. Yep, nothing to see here. It’s all just about a virus.

Arby
Arby
Aug 27, 2020 7:55 PM
Reply to  kevin

Wow! Do you have a link? People I work with (who just won’t lift a little finger to inform themselves) sometimes ask me how long this will last. I tell them what I know, that, in fact, it’s permanent. I think that even the bovine are becoming restless. They just haven’t thought about any of this, but they did notice something was wrong and assumed that it would go away. Ha!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 25, 2020 5:19 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

Q: When does it stop?
A: When the so-called “WHO” are declared as a terrorist organisation.

Arby
Arby
Aug 27, 2020 7:56 PM

Actually, That’s a great response! I’ll have to remember it.

charles kint
charles kint
Aug 25, 2020 2:47 PM

Boiling frogs we are

RNAsplicer
RNAsplicer
Aug 25, 2020 2:23 PM

Great interview with many important points. If you want to see face mask issue is discussed, move to one hour into the interview. I feel bad for people dealing with fungal and bacterial infections of their face from wearing masks. Now they have to take antibiotics.

https://freedomplatform.tv/dr-sherri-tenpenny-face-masks-are-not-effective-against-covid-19-how-masks-are-being-used-to-control-the-population/