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YouTube shuts down a Russian “Fox”

Rhys Jones

It has been worrying to read about Off-Guardian’s recent difficulties with it’s Facebook news feed, where posts have been blocked and denied propagation. Another very similar situation has been brought to my attention that reinforces the view that the US deep state is behind the steering wheel at Google, Facebook, YouTube and likely every other western social media platform as well.

Tsargrad TV is a Russian channel owned by Konstantin Malofeev, one of Putin’s biggest supporters amongst Russia’s wealthiest entrepreneurs. A renowned Fox News producer Jack Hanick shared Fox’s production prowess with Tsargrad and the channel quickly became something of an Internet phenomenon, as has AJ+, Al Jazeera’s YouTube channel.

Like AJ+ it was following a YouTube-centric (rather than a conventional TV) model. Besides becoming known for the best production values amongst Russian broadcasters, it unashamedly supports Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and the Donetsk People’s Republic.

The Google subsidiary blocked Tsargrad’s YouTube account on July 28th over “a violation of the law on sanctions and trade rules”. The channel’s owner, Konstantin Malofeev, was under EU sanctions for his alleged involvement in the civil war in Donbass (on the pro-Russian side that is supported by the overwhelming majority of the people of Donbass).

Naturally, Western support for the other side, the Ukrainian far-right, is considered “kosher”. For some reason it enjoys a “license to kill” and those, like German-based Sergey Loznitsa, who produce Goebbelsian hate films about the people of Donbass, may fear no such sanctions from their hypocritical hosts.

Konstantin Malofeev has been under EU sanctions since 2014, so why was Tsargrad’s YouTube account suddenly struck off six years later? The move reveals more about US internal politics than about the US-Russia feud. Tsargrad must have hit a nerve within the US “deep state” mafia when they interviewed Alexander Korobko (above), the co-author of Vladimir Putin’s most thorough biography (authored with Chris Hutchins).

A native of Donetsk and the author of “New York to Donetsk and back”, approached Donald Trump by letter with an offer to engage in a no-nonsense conversation about his native Donbass. Alexander had produced a documentary about Joe Biden’s involvement and direct role in the war with Donbass and wanted to share with Trump what he had learnt during his investigation.

Alexander Korobko and his Russian Hour production company had uncovered a major scandal, which could potentially bring Biden to a Senate Committee hearing similar to Watergate and bring his presidential dreams down in a New York minute.

Tsargrad was planning to keep covering the story and Korobko’s new feature film “Alpha R”, about the events in Donbass. Alexander sent the letter to Trump flagging up his findings and it was officially received by the White House. It was probably this letter that was the last straw for the US deep state as it must have then ordered Google to strike out Tsargrad’s YT channel “out of the blue”…

Alexander Korobko described his plans to show his “Alpha R” film in the US during the US presidential election in November during a TV interview.

At the same time Tsargrad was about to launch an English-language micro-channel dedicated to that endeavour and to Donbass in general.

With over a million subscribers in Russia and with the prospect of becoming an influential foreign player in the US media realm, following the example of Qatar’s AJ+, Tsargrad became too much to handle for YouTube, that “beacon of freedom” that is filled with disturbing channels and videos under the pretext of giving a voice to the voiceless, as long as those voices are weak, strange and not threatening to the Western “Ministry of Truth”. Tsargrad’s YT channel just didn’t fit that bill.

Alexander Korobko, as the guest of the TV show to which the closure is “owed”, commented:

“Well, I totally agree with the President’s spokesperson (Dmitry Peskov) who said, “There is a solution – that is not to depend on Western platforms” […] Any Western platform is a private platform, which can throw you out along with your account at any moment […] We shall develop our own alternative to YouTube […] like China’s Youku, but geared to the entire world.

Korobko says that the idea of YouTube first appeared in a Russian sci-fi novel Battle in the Ether by Alexander Belyaev published back in 1928(!), in which he described “the central film archive operating automatically”:

Belyaev predicted (and described) the Internet with YouTube as part of it, albeit the writer didn’t use our modern tech lingo, obviously. I am sure the YT founders, along with Google’s Moscow born Sergey Brin, were inspired by such Russian visionaries as Alexander Belyaev and studied their predictions. A pity they don’t fully share their values such as our universal empathy.

[…] The Tube has become too narrow and hollow, we need a video platform which is truly open yet not ochlocratic […] for instance, those who make comments should be identifiable as YouTube comments’ “anonymity” brings out the worst in people, poisons and dumbs down any conversation and promotes frivolity not freedom.

YouTube has become the “Kunstkamera” of the world; a freak show, where the downright sick, ugly, bizarre and horrible is thrown into a mix with the curious and amusing, a place where knowledge is far outweighed by half-knowledge and fakery.

We all agree that there’s a ton of good stuff there too, but it’s not produced by YT, the latter uses and abuses creators and robs them of income and the ability to make a living unless they buy into a ridiculous “numbers” game and a clickbait “culture”. It doesn’t offer content creators a real pay-per-view model or other sophisticated tools such as “pay to continue watching” etc. The world needs a YouView platform where “you” will be treated like a person, not a number.”

YouTube seems to have had enough of Russia. Well, it should be afraid that Russia, a huge audience, has had enough with YouTube.

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Guy
Guy
Aug 14, 2020 2:23 PM

Once the stranglehold of the existing media contollers is broken we will finally see real freedom of speech .Can’t wait.
But in the meantime many thanks to OffG for presenting as much of reality as they can print.

Den lille Abe
Den lille Abe
Aug 14, 2020 10:37 AM

Well it seem as the rubes slowly gets it…
It does not matter who you guys vote for, the system is rigged against you. Something like the French Revolution usually clears the sky for a century or two, wash ,rinse and repeat.
Eat the rich.

argentine
argentine
Aug 14, 2020 12:01 AM

Jones is a Jew, kill him

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 12, 2020 11:20 AM

Nothing can stop what’s coming. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/breaking-president-trump-asked-susan-rice-obamagate-says-obama-others-probably-guilty-treason-video/ President Trump Asked About Susan Rice and Obamagate – Says Obama and Others Probably Guilty of Treason Aug 10, 2020 When asked by the One America News White House correspondent Chanel Rion about the possibility of Susan Rice being chosen as a running mate by former Vice President Joe Biden, President Trump did not hold back. Discussing surveillance crimes committed by Obama’s administration, President Trump said that: The Obama campaign spied on our campaign and they’ve been caught. Now let’s see what happens to them. They have been caught. They have been caught red-handed. It’s probably treason. It’s a horrible thing they did. . . . They used the intelligence agencies of our country to spy on my campaign and they have been caught. There are a lot of people involved. I don’t want to say how much she’s involved, frankly if he chooses… Read more »

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 12, 2020 10:11 AM

How or why anyone thinks a private US corporation has an obligation to host foreign content never ceases to amaze me.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Aug 12, 2020 1:46 PM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

Huh?

Wilmers31
Wilmers31
Aug 12, 2020 6:05 AM

So, Russia is the focus enemy of Ytube now. Sad world.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Aug 11, 2020 11:15 PM

SPEAKING OF CORRUPTION Anyone with access to millions of viewers and credible evidence about Biden’s corruption in Ukraine is immediately censored. In the end, Trump’s impeachment hearings were all about an attempt to investigate Hunter Biden and creepy Joe’s wheelings and dealings in Ukraine and how they profited from the deaths of thousands.  Those who delve too far into Hunter Biden’s corruption is attacked by the same segment of the intelligence agencies which want Trump out and dimwit Joe in. This internecine battle has been going on for four years. Crony capitalism is nothing new to a seasoned crook like Joe. His five decade political career is littered with anti-working-class legislation advanced to secure jobs or lucrative contracts for family members. In the book “Secret Empires” it describes how Devon Archer made a private visit to the White House for a meeting with Biden. The day prior Burisma deposited more than $112,000 into a Rosemount bank… Read more »

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 12, 2020 8:29 AM

Excellent and informative comment again Charlotte, thanks.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Aug 12, 2020 11:02 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Here’s a video which analyzes and discusses why the progressive base of the Democratic Party despises Kamala…..
https://youtu.be/Rnra2lgFXAU

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 12, 2020 11:41 AM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

Thanks Charlotte👍

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Aug 12, 2020 6:46 PM

I believe both are true Charlotte. Good comment.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 12, 2020 7:14 PM

Agree about Kemala – a female Obama figure, the latest chosen one. Biden would be just setting her up to takeover within the year. He had dementia and would fail on medical authority. He will not be doing live interviews or debate with Trump during the election as the mental handicap would be obvious It’s a last grasp at democratic coup! Trump knows what the DS did to Corbyn and how and he knows the same forces are aiming at him (even from within his own Cabinet). This Caesar heeds the ‘ides of March’ and has set up the unraveling of the conspirators- it comes down to the leashing of the praetorian guards. As for anonymity on YT – there is none on FarceBook and the DS has plenty of sock puppets on every social media. Stop that and let all identifiable individuals speak for themselves or hold their tongues.… Read more »

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Aug 12, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Kamala will be a Hillary puppet. In 2015 Hillary Clinton hired Kamala’s sister Maya to be one of three senior policy advisors for her presidential campaign.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 11, 2020 9:37 PM

Thanks for a very meaningful article.

GREAT IDEA! YouView Russia. I’m all in! Sign me.

Gigolo Joe
Gigolo Joe
Aug 12, 2020 2:04 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Sure thing! Just submit a photo of your government ID and copy of your bank account statement. Nobody has the right to remain anonymous if they want to be heard! According to Korobko [and the RU government, did they not already do away with online anonymity?]. Other than that it’s a great idea, long overdue.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 12, 2020 3:37 AM
Reply to  Gigolo Joe

Whatever, anything (nearly) to challenge the meant monopoly of YouTube, and China and India might hop on with each their own socket, to balance the infernal G-Power.

Roberto
Roberto
Aug 11, 2020 7:28 PM

The new ‘Peasant’s Revolt’ will be the destruction of all computer centres.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Aug 11, 2020 6:59 PM

Innocuous story out of NY today: NEW YORK (AP) — New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who died in hospitals. That statistic could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600. But the administration of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has so far refused to divulge the figure, leading to speculation New York is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing better than other states. Here’s another “minor story” in the Covid money grab saga. Spoke to someone today who was a contractor involved in the construction of 5 of the military covid hospitals. He said quite bluntly there were millions being “stolen” meaning price gouging. He… Read more »

paul
paul
Aug 11, 2020 6:04 PM

Russia, China, Iran and all independent people everywhere, need to cleanse their environment completely of all Zionist controlled poisonous institutions and substitute their own organisations. The vampiric financial structure, the lying, poisonous corporate MSM and its internet platforms, hopelessly corrupted and compromised bodies like the IAEA, OPCW, ICC, ICHR, and others. The legion of CIA Front Groups, bogus charities and human rights organisations. Kick them all out completely, and ruthlessly smash any Gweedo/ Banderastan type domestic fifth column with the utmost ruthlessness. After establishing its own alternative architecture, this should be offered to all countries and peoples subjected to genocidal Zionist terror, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Bolivia, DPRK, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, countless others. Insulating themselves from the slaughter, butchery, starvation and misery routinely inflicted on them by the rabid Zionist controlled US and its satellites. In the process isolating and quarantining the Neocon filth completely, such that their murder… Read more »

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 12, 2020 10:23 AM
Reply to  paul

Not a chance, for at least another 20 years minimum. Wishful thinking.

bob
bob
Aug 11, 2020 4:57 PM

Just another prime example of deceit – who do they think they are fooling – inject or not??

https://twitter.com/i/status/1292864968761671686

“didn’t even feel it” – no wonder!

wendy mair
wendy mair
Aug 12, 2020 12:37 AM
Reply to  bob

Sorry Bob, that was take two. The photographer missed the first take. Media Watch.

WorldParole
WorldParole
Aug 11, 2020 4:48 PM

SIRI – please run youtube search for David Icke, Del Bigtree, Highwire, Greg Reese, Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura, America’s Frontline Doctors, Dan Erickson’s press conference, Zach Bush, Judy Mikovitz, Rashid Buttar…

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 4:23 PM

Despite scientific skepticism, Russia registers world’s first COVID-19 vaccine On Tuesday, President Vladimir Putin announced that Russia has registered the world’s first COVID-19 vaccine, claiming that one of his daughters had already been inoculated. Putin says the vaccine has undergone the necessary testing, though scientists and other experts have raised concerns about it not going through the proper clinical trials. anyone pushing the East verse west crap…. There not a master in the game – there pushing the lies of the puppet’masters’ – a fake dualism between Russia or China and US – with China as an external threat. The truth is that there is a clear well documented global alliance, which transcends borders – including that of the West (capitalists – UK-US-AUS-CAN-EU+OTHERS) and the East(RUSSIA-CHINA-OTHERS). America and China are collaborating on allsorts of Space-Tech-AI projects.  BS19 clearly shows this as they all in unison went into lockdown all in unison pushed the… Read more »

Rose
Rose
Aug 11, 2020 6:55 PM
Reply to  ame

It’s so obvious when the entire planet is on the same Orwellian lock-down-the-world page.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 12, 2020 10:25 AM
Reply to  ame

You’re on the wrong website, this isn’t davidike-lizards.com 🙄

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Aug 12, 2020 8:01 PM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

Damn… I brought my lizard.
🐲

John
John
Aug 11, 2020 3:33 PM

Youtube and Facebook consist of gatherings of the masses, which means gatherings in which mediocrity rules (and the level of mediocrity is very very low). These are sheeple systems, no matter whether they are Zionist initiatives (like Youtube,Facebook, etc), or Russian, or Chines initiatives. All such systems, when they grow large enough will follow the same course as the Zionist systems.They are all the dicatorship of the masses, who are consequently smartly directed by more intelligent people.

bob
bob
Aug 11, 2020 2:16 PM

This country needs a serious anti-lockdown movement, one that is not just political but cultural and intellectual, one that is deeply educated on history, philosophy, law, economics, and all sciences …

https://www.aier.org/article/we-need-a-principled-anti-lockdown-movement/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 11, 2020 3:01 PM
Reply to  bob

Repeating what I just said on this topic in the CJ thread, we need an Anti-Lockdown Party to surface the concerns we have here.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 11, 2020 3:46 PM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

I would stay step up Nigel Farage but he learned quickly he would get shouted down and is now back following illegals around the South Coast.

kevinpk
kevinpk
Aug 11, 2020 10:37 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

He’s obsessed with it. Immigration in to the UK is irrelevant now. This is a global cabal attacking humanity. Anyone wasting their time on national politics is controlled opposition.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 5:11 AM
Reply to  kevinpk

I don’t think he’s controlled opposition I just think he is an idealist. Nationalism is the only real antitidote to globalism, save as for libertarianism of course (the two can be the same also). He’s consistently challenegd the globalists and brought that fight to the attention of the masses, he needs to focus on that more but we don’t own him and he can fight whatever battles he chooses.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 12, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

What about egalitarianism? Is that not a movement. If it isn’t it should be.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 12, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I love eagles 🙂

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
Aug 11, 2020 3:40 PM
Reply to  bob

Why would they need to know about philosophy?

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Why wouldn’t they?

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Aug 12, 2020 8:04 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

I decided it wasn’t optional but central.

richard
richard
Aug 11, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  bob

yes, get the yellow vests out worldwide and keep them out…

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Aug 11, 2020 2:03 PM

It may be best to do some research on Al Jazeera before believing everything you find on their sites. The Al Jazeera news site has been responsible for entwining agendas and fake news into their programming in the past. Probably styled themselves on the bbc model of noos reporting.

Al Jezeera’s ‘coverage’ before, during and after the illegal invasion of Libya is of particular note.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 11, 2020 3:08 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Al Jazeera was set up by former BBC staffers who formed the core of its personnel for many years. It walks a fine line between regional powers, particularly Saudi Arabia and above all Israel.

Al Jazeera pulls video claiming Jews exploited Holocaust to to create Israel
Report Concerning Qatar’s Al Jazeera Media … – FARA eFile
The Zionist Organisation of America claims Al Jazeera was compelled to cancel an investigation into pro-Israel lobbies.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 11, 2020 3:52 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Good info.

dus7
dus7
Aug 11, 2020 6:03 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Al Jazeera Investigations: The Lobby (UK) is available on the AJ website.
Al Jazeera Investigations: The Lobby (USA) is available on Bitchute.
I found the latter rather eye-opening.

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 6:47 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Pro-Israel advocacy groups in the UK made a series of complaints to the Office of Communications (Ofcom), the quasi-government regulator that ensures fairness and accuracy on British television. Al Jazeera is a signatory and abides by Ofcom’s stringent codes of practice.
The complainants levelled charges of anti-Semitism, bias, unfair editing and infringement of privacy. After an eight-month investigation, Ofcom’s detailed, 60-page ruling rejected each complaint in full.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 11, 2020 3:48 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Ineeed. AJ+ push the whole trans business like no tomorrow. Yet in their country that kind of thing is a big no no. AJ+ serves one purpose and that’s to pervert the minds of western youth by dividing them.

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 6:48 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

alex jones you referring about

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:09 PM
Reply to  ame

Ya think?

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 11, 2020 8:19 PM
Reply to  ame

No, I suspect Alex jones purpose is to make truthers/those who question things look like mentalist/tin foil hatters. Same as David Icke.

paul
paul
Aug 11, 2020 6:14 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Al Jazeera is just the mouthpiece of the US satellite Qatar dictatorship.
The Neocon poison and bile it routinely spews out against Syria, Iran, Libya, Russia, China and any other nation targeted, and which makes up 90% of its content, just parrots the lies and talking points of its Washington masters.

Arby
Arby
Aug 11, 2020 1:06 PM

Divisions. Distractions. Trump good, Deep State bad. Trump evil, Deep State good. Not interested.

Russia is not outside the American-led Corporatocracy. The Transnational Class rules the world and the Corporatocracy and is over-represented by Americans, as was pointed out by Maximilian Forte (who pushes covid 19 pandemic hoax). Forget the politicians. Go after the big gangsters who own, rule and ruin the world and who are giving us a global biosecurity police State that is beyond nightmarish, I say.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 11, 2020 1:20 PM
Reply to  Arby

I’ll make it easy for you, Arby. Trump bad. Deep State Bad. Surface State bad. Democrats bad. Republicans bad. Oligarchs bad. State Department bad. Military Industrial Comlex bad. Intelligence agencies bad.
No division at all;)

Arby
Arby
Aug 11, 2020 5:29 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Well, yes to the first part of your comment. I wish there was no division, but right now there is nothing but division. They have won that fight and are winning the war as well. They’ll win it but they won’t get to enjoy their victory for long, is my view.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:10 PM
Reply to  Arby

“They have won that fight”

They?

R Anand
R Anand
Aug 11, 2020 1:27 PM
Reply to  Arby

“Russia is not outside the American-led Corporatocracy.”

I agree. Russian regime, along with the US, has helped prop up the authoritarian regime in India in myriad ways — election machine rigging algos, defence deals etc.

Arby
Arby
Aug 11, 2020 5:34 PM
Reply to  R Anand

Throw in a link or two for force. I’d be interested. James Corbett really confirmed for me what I suspected in regard to Russia’s, and China’s, ‘contest’ with the US. It might be this video: https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-297-china-and-the-new-world-order/

I don’t have time right now to double check. Heading out the door to go to work. Later…

Seb
Seb
Aug 11, 2020 7:59 PM
Reply to  Arby

All this exploitation made possible by the Mediacracy who spread Hate in order to pervert Humanity! They cannot stand human decency which shames their sub human greed

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 11, 2020 1:05 PM

“…it unashamedly supports Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and the Donetsk People’s Republic.”

Supporting Trump is like supporting Netanyahu, so there should be quite a bit of shame.
Yes, the U.S. controls U.S.-based social media. Every country should have a dozen youtube or youku-type platforms.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Aug 12, 2020 2:25 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Supporting that Obama figure was so much better …

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 11, 2020 12:59 PM

Russia has just announced it has given regulatory approval for a Covid19 vaccine after apparently 2 months of human trials.
WHO has just fired out a statement urging caution, and that “guidelines must be followed”. Interesting. I wonder what Bill Gates and Dr Fauci think about this?
YouTube? That beacon of freedom Rhys?
Surely you jest?
The censorship of all social media platforms: YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, has been off the Richter Scale the last 5 months. And yes, even OffGuardian has been under attack from the ‘fact checkers’ (cough) and from DDoS attacks as well as lots of little critters; otherwise known as trolls.
Maybe Tsargrad will look at going on Bitchute, or even Yandex? We’re Living in increasingly dark times, and anyone who rocks the boat will be targeted.

Cyd
Cyd
Aug 11, 2020 2:25 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

If the Russian vaccine is simple saline I predict very effective. Even better: vitamin c.
Plus: hilarious. And humor boosts immune systems. Win win win.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 11, 2020 2:57 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah, Fauci says coming vaccine may be only 50-60% effective–but hey we need to rush it to save the world don’t we.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fauci-says-coronavirus-vaccine-may-only-be-50-or-60-effective

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 11, 2020 11:08 PM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

I’m more interested to see how Gates reacts to this news Aldous. But it’s an interesting development. Thanks for the link.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 11, 2020 3:28 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

And so the Vaccine Race begins…
And Russia’s version will be cheaper, even though none of them work…
Of all the world leaders at this time, I reckon only Putin has the sense of humour to survive this ridiculous nonsense. I doubt he cares, whichever way the wind blows.
“We’ll make some money if we can, but we can also have a good laugh at the same time”, sort of thing…

Howard
Howard
Aug 11, 2020 5:02 PM
Reply to  wardropper

We’ll have to wait at least four years before assuming none of the vaccines work. The vaccine makers want blanket immunity (which they already have in the US) specifically because they don’t know what might happen four years from now.

If people start dropping like flies in four years, then we’ll know the vaccine was 100% successful.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 11, 2020 5:04 PM
Reply to  Howard

I think we already know a lot more than that. Many critical thinkers have been doing a lot of homework for a decade or two by now, and I’m not sure we have four years to wait for anything in any case…

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 11, 2020 11:13 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yep, regards Putin, correct, however I’m also very aware that all countries signed up for Agenda 2030, including Russia, Iran, even blinking North Korea… This is the number one factor driving this whole panicdemic farce: The Great Reset as described by the World Economic Forum.

Guy
Guy
Aug 14, 2020 2:46 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Not much to look forward to if indeed the great reset does come to pass .I will be 82 by then and probably not around to watch the aftermath .I can’t believe that humanity will become that Orwelian .

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I wouldn’t want it anyway. But given the choice I’d probably prefer a Russian vaxx to Gates’ potion.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 11, 2020 12:23 PM

Vast Web of Clandestine Collaborations between Medical Academics and the CIA — Alliance for Human Research Protection “The CIA and DOD penetrated and compromised the research integrity of 88 institutions — universities, medical centers, hospitals — into mass communication and techniques of persuasion, opinion measurement, and interrogation. This alliance between covert intelligence and academia proved seminal in perverting academic medical professionals and undermining the fabric of democracy.” MK-ULTRA [built] an extensive secret network of 185 psychiatrists and cognitive scientists who specialized in, psychopharmacology, psychological behavior conditioning, and behavior modification were recruited at 88 participating academic institutions. These included: Harvard University and Boston Psychopathic Institute; Cornell Medical School, Mt. Sinai Hospital, Columbia University / NYS Psychiatric Institute; the University of Rochester; the University of Illinois Medical School, the National Institutes of Mental Health (NIMH), Lexington Kentucky, Center for Drug Addiction; Johns Hopkins, Princeton University, Yale University; Emory, the Universities of Minnesota,… Read more »

Arby
Arby
Aug 11, 2020 1:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

This is how the CIA has always rolled. It’s an old book, but Michael Klare’s “War Without End – American Planning for the Next Vietnams” goes into great detail about the intelligence communities penetration of academia.There’s even a chapter titled “The Scientific Mercenaries – America’s Fourth Armed Service.” It’s breathtaking. Today, sadly, Michael is associated with the fakey TomDispatch website.

Steve Church
Steve Church
Aug 11, 2020 2:45 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Little did I know how lucky I was to have left the US in ’66, then in ’72 for a few years, only to return to a village in NW lower Michigan, then to leave again in the mid ’80s for a few more years, then finally leave for good in ’02. Those years outside the USAsylum probably saved my life.

Howard
Howard
Aug 11, 2020 5:11 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

This study may be putting the cart before the horse. Things like the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations are not tools of the CIA but the other way around. The CIA is nothing but a water carrier for the ruling class, no doubt given marching orders on a daily basis lest they forget who’s the boss, who’s the servant.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 11, 2020 6:17 PM
Reply to  Howard

I agree with you Howard. I think the article is just saying the foundations were used to disguise money follows originating with the government agencies.

The CIA was set up as the muscle for Wall St banks and lawyers representing the corporations. Just as the Pinkerton strike busters became the FBI. They have the same role today – protecting/grabbing assets for the owners.

Eyes Open
Eyes Open
Aug 11, 2020 12:19 PM

I imagine YouTube’s blocking more videos than North Korea these days.

If the New World Order arrives and we need to be vaccinated, tracked and traced, and we need to present our Covid-Pass status in order to have a cup of coffee in a café, then we’ll have become EXACTLY the same as those other evil countries our leaders have been demonising for the last three or four decades.

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 2:56 PM
Reply to  Eyes Open

new world order is truly here dear eyes open

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 11, 2020 11:47 AM

The revolution will not be televised. But nothing can stop what’s coming.

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 12:31 PM

they brought in to the Q psyop
never the less always interesting seeing underground metaphysical intle of decades ago being now used politically as a new thing
save are children start with war oxfam red cross unsfem,
or in this filth list below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_charitable_foundations

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 11, 2020 12:50 PM
Reply to  ame

All those organisations and their execs are definitely in the crosshairs. As that crazy psyop Q says:

“At some point it will not be safe for them to walk down the street.”
https://qmap.pub/read/1832

But of course, as Trump says: “a scarf is good; they can use a scarf.”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 11, 2020 1:35 PM

“You can use a scarf”: Trump suggests replacement for masks during briefing
Mar 31, 2020

“Eventually . . . this is going to be gone.”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 14, 2020 2:33 PM

Trump: “Eventually . . . this is going to be gone.”

The whole agenda was defined in Oct 2016; and it’s an “existential war” against an “invisible enemy”.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/13/watch-covid-911-from-homeland-security-to-biosecurity/#comment-239049

Howard
Howard
Aug 11, 2020 5:15 PM

A member of the ruling class wouldn’t be caught dead walking down anything as pedestrian as a street. So this “Q” needs to get a grip.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 11, 2020 7:07 PM
Reply to  Howard

You’ll have to be somewhat less literal if you want to decode what’s going on, but it’s generally those further down the hierarchy who face the greatest, immediate risk.

Ghislaine Maxwell:
https://qmap.pub/players/read/127

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 25, 2020 10:40 PM
Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 27, 2020 9:28 AM

https://nypost.com/2020/07/16/epstein-was-pinocchio-and-ghislaine-was-gepetto-accuser/
Epstein was ‘Pinocchio’ with ‘Gepetto’ Ghislaine pulling the strings, accuser says
July 16, 2020
Ghislaine Maxwell was far worse than Jeffrey Epstein when it came to abusing young women and girls, according to their most outspoken accuser — in fact, she was “Gepetto” to his “Pinocchio.”
“She was pulling the strings,” Virginia Roberts Giuffre told “CBS This Morning” of Maxwell on Thursday, calling Maxwell the mastermind, and a “monster.”
“Ghislaine was much more conniving and smart than Epstein ever was,” Giuffre said.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 19, 2020 12:45 PM

There is a possibility regarding Epstein which I haven’t yet seen discussed anywhere; and it’s based on the idea that he was merely “Pinocchio” while “Gepetto” Ghislaine was pulling the strings. The theory being that a deal was done with Epstein a long time ago, and that he’s now in witness protection.

bob
bob
Aug 11, 2020 11:35 AM

has this been posted before?

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/newsbreak-plandemic-a-known-live-training-simulation-exercise-under-who_C7AsTic663ZfLrk.html

“Major documentary confirmation of something many of us have come to know for certain in recent times: the entire COVID-19 world-shutdown is part of a live training and simulation exercise run by the unscrupulous WHO and United Nations, as documented in their Global Preparedness Monitoring Board’s annual 2019 report and their International Health Regulations treaty of 2005—which 194/or 196 countries signed off on—which pretty much establishes a Global Government (of the WHO & United Nations, & the high-level international GMPB) along with their sponsors, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Wellcome Trust, & other unnamed donors”

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 12, 2020 1:24 PM
Reply to  bob

An Indian lady put up a video about a week or so ago with a link to the document which I downloaded. Signatories to the deal promise to run two exercises. One can only presume that the October Johns Hopkins affair was one and “pandemic” is the second; bearing out Pompeo’s words in the much trumped (pretty slick eh?) video.

Jan J
Jan J
Aug 11, 2020 11:20 AM

If the deep-state is not covertly behind Google, Facebook, Twitter etc, they do at least have a giant back-door into the databases of these tech-giants. I don’t for a second believe Facebook is anything but a front for a giant Surveillance operation. The concept is brilliant of course: you get the users to report everything of relevance about themselves, who they know, what they like, what events they attend. it’s the wet dream and golden age of the intelligence services. Then they have the option to spy on citizens search terms with google, manipulate public opinion by determining what pops up in a search engine algorithm, or just flat out censorship for “violating community guidelines” or some crap like that on Youtube or other platforms. Apparently, the Chinese think the same thing and that’s obviously why Facebook, Twitter, Youtube etc. is banned in China and they have made their own… Read more »

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Jan J

deep state is a puppet terminology this is bigger and deeper that a deep state which is referring symbolically to lucid dream subconsciousness in control of it
they speak in a discourse a language which has many different meanings.
RE facebook
Tubal-Cain: can be pronounced 2 balls cain there logo is that of a old ancient society stil about today repackaged

Nixon Scraypes
Nixon Scraypes
Aug 12, 2020 1:42 PM
Reply to  ame

There’s a rather difficult site called psalmistice which goes into punning in ancient texts.sects,sexts etc. particularly Alchemy in a few posts. Showing the big time anti female agenda of these narcissists. Such a deep fear of natural creation.

Derf
Derf
Oct 14, 2020 10:18 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scraypes

intriguing site !

NicS
NicS
Aug 11, 2020 10:48 AM

It’s refreshing to read an article on OFF-G which labels those behind all the censorship, control and increasing authoritarianism we all loathe: the deep state, which is also trying to remove Trump and regain control over the US presidency it lost to an outsider rebel in 2016. Hopefully posters may realise that Trump is fighting unaccountable power and corruption (‘drain the swamp’), which is why Congress, the DC governing elites, much of the judiciary, big tech and many corporates, the MSM media complex and many others have all been mobilised to attack and remove Trump non-stop, and recapture the US organs of state. They have done an excellent job in convincing millions of ordinary plebs that Orange Man Bad, so dividing those they rule. While radical leftist rioters attack other ordinary Americans as racists and fascists, burn down and loot US cities (Chicago yesterday), very corrupt political elites like the… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 11, 2020 11:22 AM
Reply to  NicS

The only conclusion that is that U.S. federal government is thoroughly corrupt, sustained by interlocking networks of favours, kickbacks and blackmail. A headstrong, egotistical, perverse, individualist from outside the system is a risk that terrifies them.

The snout-in-the trough pack cannot tolerate an outsider who didn’t rise through the political system. Oh, he worked in the corrupt world of construction, having to rub shoulders with the mafia, bankers and local politicians, but he owes no favours at federal level.

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 12:56 PM
Reply to  NicS

the plebs are the ones thinking trump is helping them 2trillion plus bailout errrr
thats oem brainwashing stockholm syndrome is the new word on it
but again once must be slightly dumb down hypnotism comatised to even think there vote gets the selected elected
politic is a threatre dear child
if you do not understand the’ private discourse’ in play then your on a literal playing field being juiced !
Even on the train to abattoir they will sing trust the plan
there helping us imagine how deluded one must be to think the world biggest lock down is so they could arrest the elites sssshhh trust the plan

which makes them dangerous in theses times

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 11, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  NicS

Wow, Trump ‘draining the swamp’ bs still lives in the minds of people. Breitbart zombies have invaded! 😀

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:14 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Opinion seems divided on that point.

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 12, 2020 2:38 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

That’s kinda scary

Tim Jenkins
Tim Jenkins
Aug 11, 2020 10:26 AM

Wisdom worth repeating… for everybody’s consideration in futures brighter.

“Anonymity brings out the worst in people, poisons and dumbs down conversation
And promotes frivolity not freedom.”

Personally, i have largely found much truth in this statement, over many decades,
Searching the ideology of others who choose labels and boxes for others, in turn, before ever taking the time to study themselves first & foremost…
obligatory elementary psychology, before presuming to help or guide others.
So, do tell, milosevic / Covidiot, what do you think?

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Aug 11, 2020 8:55 AM

It’s a fundamental mistake to place any trust or reliance on corporate media such as Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. In the first place, it has been rightly said that if you are not paying anything for what you believe to be services, you yourself are the product. Users of those “social media” sites are raw material that obligingly walks up to the conveyor belt, jumps onto it, and gets crunched up for the profit of the owners (not you). Secondly, there is very little redress against such corporations. They can make up their own rules, as long as they keep on the right side of government. That is easily done by become agents (paid or unpaid) of government. The big “social media” corporations are the exact antithesis of the Internet and the World Wide Web. Those networks were created and offered, free of charge, to everyone in the world to… Read more »

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 10:37 AM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

what you tube did was get people addicted content creators by offering huge financial incentives big-money same with facebook they left there jobs and could live very nicely on this new way of life of making videos and being famous in virtual world and slowly it started changing then the content creator the real one worked out shit my lively hood at stake and well many went into politricks back in 2014/5//6 and donations started coming in and then they had donation and patreon income as well as selling mugs t shirt and other shit pushing political type agendas or spiritual type agendas so you tube stopped monetizing the videos people had donations and patreon and then it was easy to see who is controlled or deceptive. fundamentally many through school Disney holeywood and reality tv shows of the 90’s 2000 got the youtuber era addicted to wanting to be… Read more »

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 10:42 AM
Reply to  ame

explained better here
Devil Advocate, final scene

NicS
NicS
Aug 11, 2020 11:03 AM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

Big tech can make up their own rules ‘As long as they keep on the right side of government’. You must mean the DC elite or swamp and the many Congressmen and government agencies it has in its pockets, not the Trump administration. Orange Man Bad has been trying to make social media accountable for their censorship, don’t forget, but his executive order to make them liable for this and for biased content is being stymied by regulatory authorities. Congress, of course, does next to nothing. Also remember that the big social media all hate and seek to censor Trump and his working class supporters, never his elite critics nor those inciting violence against them. Twatter famously censored the US president simply for warning BLM protestors that “when the looting starts, the shooting starts”. But they don’t censor obvious death threats by Iranian Mullahs or groups planning yet more violence… Read more »

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:15 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

Off Guardian sets a shining example of how to use the Web properly.

Are you on the pull Tom?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 11, 2020 8:39 AM

The West has spent 70 years, battling at the frontier of nuclear annihilation, in order to “protect humanity from an enemy whose goal was to wipe away the possibility of individualistic life”…

… so that, having defeated the Communist and Nazi opponents, the West can itself wipe away the possibility of individualistic life.

Quote from Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control by Stephen Kinzer (2019)
Pacifica Radio interview:

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 11, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

We are to be the ‘new, improved’ totalitarianism, doncha know! The USSR was merely a test-run. Too lax and liberal for the Illuminati’s taste, it turned out.

Koba
Koba
Aug 11, 2020 7:05 AM

What’s the doc called and where can I see it?

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Aug 11, 2020 6:57 AM

Its called ‘censorship’, isn’t it? It might be dressed up in some fancy “sanctions because of X,Y or Z” but its really just plain, everyday, censorship.

(I can’t fathom the Russians’ liking for Donald Trump. It might have been reasonable four years ago because HRC was definitely giving off “aching for a WW3” vibes but DT is a bit of a bust and isn’t likely to last much longer.)

Platov
Platov
Aug 11, 2020 7:54 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

The Russians don’t like Trump; they just detest the Clintons and Biden, and after the four years of the “Russiagate” scam, they are repelled by Liberal Democrats, whom they view as borderline psychotic in their Russophobia.

NicS
NicS
Aug 11, 2020 11:12 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Trump has imposed way more sanctions and other punitive measures on Russia than the Obama administration did. Right now the planned Russian gas pipeline deal to Germany is being blocked, as the US fears this will make much of Europe dangerously energy-dependent on Moscow. Despite all this, Russian authorities know that Trump doesn’t fear or demonise them like the MSM and western governments usually do, and that both nations face more serious threats in common, such as the supremacist Islamism now controlling most of the Middle East, and the supremacist, militaristic ambitions of communist China. And they know that Trump likes making deals, not wars.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Aug 12, 2020 2:51 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

How do you know the Russians’ like Trump?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 11, 2020 5:39 AM

They should just put their content up on Bitchute for Western consumption….

Koba
Koba
Aug 11, 2020 7:05 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Bitchute is alright but give it time it will end up like duck duck go

ame
ame
Aug 11, 2020 10:08 AM
Reply to  Koba

expand more on it will end up like duck duck go.? please

NicS
NicS
Aug 11, 2020 11:32 AM
Reply to  Koba

Has DuckDuck ended up like Gulag, Fakebook, Twatter and Pootube, mere tools of corporate and political interests to suppress freedom of speech?

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 11, 2020 12:39 PM
Reply to  Koba

Has DuckDuckGo gone bad already? I’m still using it for now. What are you using?

John Pretty
John Pretty
Aug 11, 2020 8:17 PM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

Domestos

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Aug 12, 2020 3:15 PM
Reply to  John Pretty