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Opening the CIA’s Can of Worms

Edward Curtin

“The CIA and the media are part of the same criminal conspiracy,” wrote Douglas Valentine in his important book, The CIA As Organized Crime.

This is true.  The corporate mainstream media are stenographers for the national security state’s ongoing psychological operations aimed at the American people, just as they have done the same for an international audience. 

We have long been subjected to this “information warfare,” whose purpose is to win the hearts and minds of the American people and pacify them into victims of their own complicity, just as it was practiced long ago by the CIA in Vietnam and by The New York Times, CBS, etc. on the American people then and over the years as the American warfare state waged endless wars, coups, false flag operations, and assassinations at home and abroad.

Another way of putting this is to say for all practical purposes when it comes to matters that bear on important foreign and domestic matters, the CIA and the corporate mainstream media cannot be distinguished.

For those who read and study history, it has long been known that the CIA has placed their operatives throughout every agency of the U.S. government, as explained by Fletcher Prouty in The Secret Team; that CIA officers Cord Myer and Frank Wisner operated secret programs to get some of the most vocal exponents of intellectual freedom among intellectuals, journalists, and writers to be their voices for unfreedom and censorship, as explained by Frances Stonor Saunders in The Cultural Cold War and Joel Whitney in Finks, among others; that Cord Myer was especially focused on and successful in “courting the Compatible Left” since right wingers were already in the Agency’s pocket. 

All this is documented and not disputed.  It is shocking only to those who don’t do their homework and see what is happening today outside a broad historical context.

With the rise of alternate media and a wide array of dissenting voices on the internet, the establishment felt threatened and went on the defensive. It, therefore, should come as no surprise that those same elite corporate media are now leading the charge for increased censorship and the denial of free speech to those they deem dangerous, whether that involves wars, rigged elections, foreign coups, COVID-19, vaccinations, or the lies of the corporate media themselves.

Having already banned critics from writing in their pages and or talking on their screens, these media giants want to make the quieting of dissenting voices complete.

Just the other day The New York Times had this headline

Robert Kennedy Jr. Barred From Instagram Over False Virus Claims.

Notice the lack of the word alleged before “false virus claims.”  This is guilt by headline.  It is a perfect piece of propaganda posing as reporting, since it accuses Kennedy, a brilliant and honorable man, of falsity and stupidity, thus justifying Instagram’s ban, and it is an inducement to further censorship of Mr. Kennedy by Facebook, Instagram’s parent company.

That ban should follow soon, as the Times’ reporter Jennifer Jett hopes, since she accusingly writes that RFK, Jr. “makes many of the same baseless claims to more than 300,000 followers” at Facebook. Jett made sure her report also went to msn.com and The Boston Globe.

This is one example of the censorship underway with much, much more to follow.  What was once done under the cover of omission is now done openly and brazenly, cheered on by those who, in an act of bad faith, claim to be upholders of the First Amendment and the importance of free debate in a democracy. We are quickly slipping into an unreal totalitarian social order.

Which brings me to the recent work of Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi, both of whom have strongly and rightly decried this censorship. As I understand their arguments, they go like this.

First, the corporate media have today divided up the territory and speak only to their own audiences in echo chambers: liberal to liberals (read: the “allegedly” liberal Democratic Party), such as The New York Times, NBC, etc., and conservative to conservatives (read” the “allegedly” conservative Donald Trump), such as Fox News, Breitbart, etc. 

They have abandoned old school journalism that, despite its shortcomings, involved objectivity and the reporting of disparate facts and perspectives, but within limits. Since the digitization of news, their new business models are geared to these separate audiences since they are highly lucrative choices. It’s business-driven since electronic media have replaced paper as advertising revenues have shifted and people’s ability to focus on complicated issues has diminished drastically.

Old school journalism is suffering as a result and thus writers such as Greenwald and Taibbi and Chris Hedges (who interviewed Taibbi and concurs: part one here) have taken their work to the internet to escape such restrictive categories and the accompanying censorship.

Secondly, the great call for censorship is not something the Silicon Valley companies want because they want more people using their media since it means more money for them, but they are being pressured to do it by the traditional old school media, such as The New York Times, who now employ “tattletales and censors,” people who are power-hungry jerks, to sniff out dissenting voices that they can recommend should be banned.

Greenwald says,

They do it in part for power: to ensure nobody but they can control the flow of information. They do it partly for ideology and out of hubris: the belief that their worldview is so indisputably right that all dissent is inherently dangerous ‘disinformation.’”

Thus, the old school print and television media are not on the same page as Facebook, Twitter, etc. but have opposing agendas.

In short, these shifts and the censorship are about money and power within the media world as the business has been transformed by the digital revolution.

I think this is a half-truth that conceals a larger issue. The censorship is not being driven by power-hungry reporters at the Times or CNN or any media outlet. All these media and their employees are but the outer layer of the onion, the means by which messages are sent and people controlled. 

These companies and their employees do what they are told, whether explicitly or implicitly, for they know it is in their financial interest to do so.  If they do not play their part in this twisted and intricate propaganda game, they will suffer. They will be eliminated, as are pesky individuals who dare peel the onion to its core.

For each media company is one part of a large interconnected intelligence apparatus – a system, a complex – whose purpose is power, wealth, and domination for the very few at the expense of the many.  The CIA and media as parts of the same criminal conspiracy.

To argue that the Silicon valley companies do not want to censor but are being pressured by the legacy corporate media does not make sense.  These companies are deeply connected to U.S. intelligence agencies, as are the NY Times, CNN, NBC, etc.  They too are part of what was once called Operation Mockingbird, the CIA’s program to control, use, and infiltrate the media.  Only the most naïve would think that such a program does not exist today.

In Surveillance Valley, investigative reporter Yasha Levine documents how Silicon Valley tech companies like Facebook, Amazon, and Google are tied to the military-industrial-intelligence-media complex in surveillance and censorship; how the Internet was created by the Pentagon; and even how these shadowy players are deeply involved in the so-called privacy movement that developed after Edward Snowden’s revelations. 

Like Valentine, and in very detailed ways, Levine shows how the military-industrial-intelligence-digital-media complex is part of the same criminal conspiracy as is the traditional media with their CIA overlords. It is one club.

Many people, however, might find this hard to believe because it bursts so many bubbles, including the one that claims that these tech companies are pressured into censorship by the likes of The New York Times, etc.  The truth is the Internet was a military and intelligence tool from the very beginning and it is not the traditional corporate media that gives it its marching orders.

That being so, it is not the owners of the corporate media or their employees who are the ultimate controllers behind the current vast crackdown on dissent, but the intelligence agencies who control the mainstream media and the Silicon Valley monopolies such as Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc.  All these media companies are but the outer layer of the onion, the means by which messages are sent and people controlled.

But for whom do these intelligence agencies work? Not for themselves.

They work for their overlords, the super wealthy people, the banks, financial institutions, and corporations that own the United States and always have. In a simple twist of fate, such super wealthy naturally own the media corporations that are essential to their control of the majority of the world’s wealth through the stories they tell.

It is a symbiotic relationship.

As FDR put it bluntly in 1933, this coterie of wealthy forces is the “financial element in the larger centers [that] has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” Their wealth and power has increased exponentially since then, and their connected tentacles have further spread to create what is an international deep state that involves such entities as the IMF, the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, those who meet yearly at Davos, etc.

They are the international overlords who are pushing hard to move the world toward a global dictatorship.

As is well known, or should be, the CIA was the creation of Wall St. and serves the interests of the wealthy owners. Peter Dale Scott, in “The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld,” says of Allen Dulles, the nefarious longest-running Director of the CIA and Wall St. lawyer for Sullivan and Cromwell:

There seems to be little difference in Allen Dulles’s influence whether he was a Wall Street lawyer or a CIA director.”

It was Dulles, long connected to Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, international corporations, and a friend of Nazi agents and scientists, who was tasked with drawing up proposals for the CIA. He was ably assisted by five Wall St. bankers or investors, including the aforementioned Frank Wisner who later, as a CIA officer, said his “Mighty Wurlitzer” was “capable of playing any propaganda tune he desired.”

This he did by recruiting intellectuals, writers, reporters, labor organizations, and the mainstream corporate media, etc. to propagate the CIA’s messages.

Greenwald, Taibbi, and Hedges are correct up to a point, but they stop short.  Their critique of old school journalism à la Edward Herman’s and Noam Chomsky’s Manufacturing of Consent model, while true as far as it goes, fails to pin the tail on the real donkey.  Like old school journalists who knew implicitly how far they could go, these guys know it too, as if there is an invisible electronic gate that keeps them from wandering into dangerous territory.

The censorship of Robert Kennedy, Jr. is an exemplary case.  His banishment from Instagram and the ridicule the mainstream media have heaped upon him for years is not simply because he raises deeply informed questions about vaccines, Bill Gates, the pharmaceutical companies, etc. His critiques suggest something far more dangerous is afoot: the demise of democracy and the rise of a totalitarian order that involves total surveillance, control, eugenics, etc. by the wealthy led by their intelligence propagandists.

To call him a super spreader of hoaxes and a conspiracy theorist is aimed at not only silencing him on specific medical issues, but to silence his powerful and articulate voice on all issues. To give thoughtful consideration to his deeply informed scientific thinking concerning vaccines, the World Health Organization, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, etc., is to open a can of worms that the powerful want shut tight.

This is because RFK, Jr. is also a severe critic of the enormous power of the CIA and its propaganda that goes back so many decades and was used to cover up the national security state’s assassination of both his father and his uncle. 

It is why his wonderful recent book, American Values: Lessons I Learned from My Familythat contains not one word about vaccineswas shunned by mainstream book reviewers; for the picture he paints fiercely indicts the CIA in multiple ways while also indicting the mass media that have been its mouthpieces.

These worms must be kept in the can, just as the power of the international overlords represented by the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum with its Great Reset must be.  They must be dismissed as crackpot conspiracy theories not worthy of debate or exposure.

Robert Kennedy, Jr., by name and dedication to truth seeking, conjures up his father’s ghost, the last politician who, because of his vast support across racial and class divides, could have united the country and tamed the power of the CIA to control the narrative that has allowed for the plundering of the world and the country for the wealthy overlords.

So they killed him.

There is a reason Noam Chomsky is an exemplar for Hedges, Greenwald, and Taibbi.  He controls the can opener for so many. He has set the parameters for what is considered acceptable to be considered a serious journalist or intellectual.  The assassinations of the Kennedys, 9/11, or a questioning of the official Covid-19 story are not among them, and so they are eschewed.

To denounce censorship, as they have done, is admirable. But now Greenwald, Taibbi, and Hedges need go up to the forbidden gate with the sign that says – “This far and no further” – and jump over it.  That’s where the true stories lie.  That’s when they’ll see the worms squirm.

Edward Curtin is an independent writer whose work has appeared widely over many years. His website is edwardcurtin.com and his new book is Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies.

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Susan Lea
Susan Lea
Feb 27, 2021 5:13 PM

Yes, it is 100% fact that the CIA participated in and controlled the assassinations of the Kennedy brothers and are now ensuring the demise and punishment of Robert Kennedy Jr. for the same reasons, towit, for exposing the CIA’s despicable role in controlling and oppressing Americans. The Big Tech Giants, Facebook, Twitter, Google and Amazon were financed and controlled by CIA from the beginning. Microsoft was not, but after misusing the federal DOJ to attack Microsoft in the 1990s, the CIA was able to bend Microsoft to its will. Bill Gates saw the “light” and joined the Rockefeller Institute to gain total control over Americans by controlling their education and medical care, the latter primarily by increasing vaccines by a factor of 10 and adding ingredients to vaccines that have destroyed the health of some 46% of our youth (CDC’s own figures).

Tim
Tim
Feb 20, 2021 3:36 PM

The ego is anti-Christ. This is it’s world (miscreation- fake-counterfeit-illusion-spell). The presence of “predators” and “parasites” in “nature” is a dead-giveaway– Those operating at the top are acting in alignment with the nature of this world, as such, they are not “evil” by this world’s standard.
EgoMatrix.
Untruth adherred to is the only thing that imprisons.
The Truth Sets Us Free. Jesus showed the Way. Not “religion”, The Truth Is Within.
An anomoly within Reality started this dream of the unreal. World of lies.
An anomoly within the illusion ended it. The Truth.
It’s already over in Eternity.
Not yet in “time”, but it’s not if, but when?
To leave requires acceptance of Truth and discarding of untruth. We are The Son(and It is Infinitely more than Us). Spirit. Like GOD. (IS)LOVE.
God’s Son is sinless and guiltless– IN TRUTH(Reality). Illusion/delusion is not that. To retain innocence one MUST extend it to ALL that God Created, regardless of appearances and perceptions that SEEM to confirm guilt— it’s a lie— no reality—FALSE WITNESSING(seeing falsely)= or; generating an illusury world that conforms to untruth. Hell is seeming disconnection from SOURCE-GOD-ORIGINAL-ONE-ETERNAL.

Or, this world is an insane asylum. The way out is restoration of sanity. The only thing capable of doing that is The Truth, Within, and everywhere, untruth superimposes a false reality that seems to validate itself, but the world is not cause but effect, cause is in the mind projecting.

wilmers31
wilmers31
Feb 18, 2021 4:28 AM

Check out how much Murdoch paid for the Wall Street Journal. 10 years later his newspapers still made losses, growing every year – both is best researched through search engines not my suggestions.

The question is, what is his motivation to keep these loss making entities alive?
His news outlets are an expensive hobby?
Is one of the CIA-type organisations paying to keep what looks like propaganda outlets?

omar miralles
omar miralles
Feb 17, 2021 5:45 PM

Please create a telegram channel linked to this website sooner than later it will be gone.

Malatok
Malatok
Feb 16, 2021 7:28 PM

USSA is rotten to the core and indeed it is a delight to see that this disgusting empire of sleaze and filth is no longer the toughest dog on the block whatever about being the meanest. As the Potemkin Village idiot “economy” of global genocide, war and fraud unravels abroad and the handouts of the spoils of empire at home become skimpier for the peasants the last days of Slumville are upon US. Blame the dreaded Chinese or Russians all you want but the anglozionazi empire of filth and depravity did it to itself. Now we only need to wait and see if the abomination in Natostan, sewer of Brussels, that den of cretins and clowns known as the EUSSR led by the midget hair stylist in chief, Uschi Von Der Lyin, will scuttle the ship of fools and spurn Mr. Bear’s energy supplies to win points from Creepy Joe and his Kamel in Washing town.
Either way good riddance to the USSA and its gimp sidekick the Coudenhove Kalergi collection of retards Urupeons call…their leaders.

Onward to the collap$€ posthaste please.

Rampaging Manatee
Rampaging Manatee
Feb 18, 2021 11:13 AM
Reply to  Malatok

Hey man, I tried to fix it — it was like bailing out the Titanic with a temse (sieve). Now I’m trying to leave this looney bin, but it’s even worse in Canabananada, England (no offense), France, Italy… maybe I’ll check out the favelas in Rio?

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
Feb 19, 2021 2:02 PM

Go to Portugal. I moved to France. It’s much better than the US, but it’s a already a borderline police state. I love Italy, and it’s the most beautiful country in Europe, but it, too, is socially and politically fucked up. Portugal is a very cool place, has a beautiful climate, good wine, and weed is legal.

kropotkin
kropotkin
Feb 16, 2021 4:59 PM

It was also Allen Dulles who coined the term “conspiracy theory”: After he was fired for being responsible for the landing in Cuba – which Kennedy opposed, but which was carried out without the president’s knowledge. After the president was assassinated a year later, Allen Dulles was immediately appointed head of the CIA/deep state again and was leading the investigation of the assassination of JFK, whereby the term “conspiracy theory” was invented to stigmatise everything that was not in line with the Dulles version. This shows us where the real power lies https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-307-meet-allen-dulles-fascist-spymaster/

wilmers31
wilmers31
Feb 18, 2021 4:32 AM
Reply to  kropotkin

Alexander Haig, later NATO secretary, had some post in the WH in 1963. He is on camera quoting the freshly minted President Johnson: The American people must never believe anything else than a rogue gunman shot their President.

What an odd remark.

Nightmare
Nightmare
Feb 26, 2021 5:24 PM
Reply to  kropotkin

Kennedy did not oppose the Bay of Pigs. He authorized it. It did not happen w/o his knowledge.

Kennedy did not order air support for the anti-Castro invaders. that’s the only manner in which he showed any opposition to the Bay of pigs, but it was enough to insure the attack’s failure.

Also, Dulles didn’t coin the term “conspiracy theory.” It had been around since the 1880’s at least. The CIA applied the term to Warren Commission doubters in a memo circulated to its offices. The memo was about how to refute Warren doubters.

Norcal
Norcal
Feb 16, 2021 2:45 PM

Please see this brilliant new piece by Greg Maybury…
https://cchr.org.au/the-cia-doctors-psychiatry-mind-control

Norcal
Norcal
Feb 16, 2021 2:22 PM

Bravo Edward Curtin and OffGuardian!

Mr Y
Mr Y
Feb 16, 2021 9:07 AM

In light of this article:

Why are Off-Guardian using Gmail?

wilmers31
wilmers31
Feb 18, 2021 4:37 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

Everything is equally sniffed through on all networks. The generic emails have the advantage that they are more portable. I do not have a generic email which means changing provider could be laborious.

When I grew up in West Berlin we communicated with friends and relatives in East Germany in code (letters). Both sides learn that in no time.

WisconsinBear
WisconsinBear
Feb 16, 2021 12:16 AM

Everything pointed out REQUIRES a functioning DOJ, and of course, a President willing to correct abuse.

Rampaging Manatee
Rampaging Manatee
Feb 18, 2021 11:18 AM
Reply to  WisconsinBear

So true. The courts have been swampified for at least 35 years; but Justice Alito is pretty cool!

Dennid
Dennid
Feb 15, 2021 11:55 PM

This is a brilliant piece, and I would either be embarrassed or emboldened if I were Greenwald, or Taibbi and I read it. There’s no other option for either man if they’re intellectually honest journalists. Both were just intellectually body slammed.

Strugglebug
Strugglebug
Feb 15, 2021 9:35 PM

Believing that the tech giants are reluctant to impose censorship is amazingly naive. A common characteristic of all of them is the conviction that their wealth and values alike are the earned result of inherent evolved superiority. The only people who really matter to them are those who can rise to their level; the rest of us are to be pitied, exploited, ‘guided’ at best, disenfranchised otherwise.

They don’t believe censorship should be applied (by lesser humans) to themselves, but they’re absolutely certain they have the right and judgement to apply it to others. As far as they’re concerned, collusion with state and financial entities is simply the result of (ideally temporary) compromise from the necessity of sharing and accessing power.

wilmers31
wilmers31
Feb 18, 2021 4:40 AM
Reply to  Strugglebug

Part of the Colluding Society we live in. We suffer when they steal from us because corruption is not a victimless crime. I believe it will not last forever but my life is now very limited.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 9:16 PM

Dr. Shiva: “Wake the f up everyone. RFK is a controlled opposition.”

Beyond VAXX & Anti-VAXX. Why the Establishment Kicked Off RFK, Jr. – their Puppet.

“Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD in Biological Engineering, the Inventor of Email, Scientist, Engineer, Educator discusses why we MUST move Beyond VAXX & ANTI-VAXX towards Precision and Personalized Medicine where One-Size-Does-NOT-Fit-All. The Establishment of #BigPharma​ and the Not-So-Obvious-Establishment of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. exist to create a false “debate” of Vaxx vs. Anti-Vaxx so we do not ever focus on how we achieve REAL HEALTH – Precision and Personalized Medicine – the Right Medicine, for the Right Person at the Right Time.

This is why we must educate ourselves on a SYSTEMS APPROACH to looking at the world and the issues at hand or be used in theatrics by the Pro- vs. Anti-. Republican v. Democrat, Left v. Right, bogus dialectic. ”
https://youtu.be/A2ju4V-g0HM

Plants can provide precision and peronalised medicine:

Rampaging Manatee
Rampaging Manatee
Feb 18, 2021 11:22 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

I like Dr. Ayyadurai, but even better: ‘no medicine’. Real food and minimizing toxins is the only medicine we need.

Bob Herrschafft
Bob Herrschafft
Feb 15, 2021 8:05 PM

now Greenwald, Taibbi, and Hedges need go up to the forbidden gate with the sign that says – “This far and no further” – and jump over it.” They must know what happened to Michael Hastings: https://cldc.org/who-killed-michael-hastings/

David G Horsmvan
David G Horsmvan
Feb 15, 2021 10:05 PM

I had forgotten what happened. Note that this was written in 2013.
By CLDC Admin, |November 13th, 2013.
It most certainly was a murder accomplished by taking over the car’s computer. I mean lacking evidence to the contrary (true) then that is your default assumption for investigation.
That this was possible via numerous serious security flaws is a matter of well documented historical fact. YouTube is full of examples of exploits on old hardware and systems including that one.
The man had even been complaining about his vehicle being hacked. Of course these days they come from the dealership that way. It’s a serious privacy issue.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Feb 16, 2021 4:30 AM

Philip Marshall and his KIDS. The atrocities committed by these deep state agencies are many.

Norcal
Norcal
Feb 16, 2021 2:26 PM

Many thanks Bob, and we can’t forget Seth Rich either…

Rampaging Manatee
Rampaging Manatee
Feb 18, 2021 11:26 AM

Good point. Frightening and sad. A ’67 Mustang can’t be hacked, just sayin’. But if ‘They’ want you gone, you’re probably on limited time no matter what.

Striketheroot
Striketheroot
Feb 15, 2021 8:01 PM

The ” can of worms” that “they” don’t want opened is who SPECIFICALLY is behind all these coordinated intel agencies and their “projects” such as depopulating the planet via biowarfare (plandemics , vaccines and pharmaceuticals), changing the planetary biome through CO2 reduction and solar dimming (read terraforming) . It’s appears the controllers are total psychopaths or perhaps a “different species” who want to downsize and reengineer (upgrade?) homo sapien sapiens for their own purposes. Is this also why they don’t want to open the ET / UFO “can of worms”? Are all these environmental and medical controversies just red herrings to keep us from questioning the larger agenda playing out?

sir isO
sir isO
Feb 15, 2021 7:02 PM

So anyway, Sarah, Researcher, whoever happens to not be a sellout, Not that I know you’re not, but I guess I can hope. They are not listening so I’ll put the ultrasonics to work, and I don’t mean youtube songs (though I will paste some).

“Am I cruel enough for you, not fucking cool enough for you?”

https://youtu.be/P3xEflhGuK4

sir isO
sir isO
Feb 15, 2021 7:05 PM
Reply to  sir isO

Keep an eye on these sites, in the near future.

https://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/
http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

Good luck figuring it out now that you’ve severed your cords.

Geoff
Geoff
Feb 15, 2021 8:43 PM
Reply to  sir isO

what does it mean?

Magie
Magie
Feb 16, 2021 10:38 PM
Reply to  sir isO

Found your posts and songs really interesting unfortunately they still very very very addicted to politics

Ed
Ed
Feb 15, 2021 5:38 PM

The government controls ALL media, not just the so called “Main Stream Media”.
They control the social media and so called “Alternative Media” too.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 16, 2021 5:42 AM
Reply to  Ed

*The government controls ALL media, not just the so called “Main Stream Media”. They control the social media and so called “Alternative Media” too.*

I copied that since it bears repeating, so many still don’t get it. Yet.

The US Intel has a complete lock on ALL media. This is what more people, everyone alive, need to grasp.

Proof of that is easy to come by: if they don’t want it in, it ain’t, and whatsoever they want in, however fake, cannot be kept out.

Modern tech has assured that. It’s very regrettable. Those are the cards, read ’em and weep.

Let me thank our God that he has tech and cards all surpassing. No one else! NObody else!

Great time to be a monotheist, LOL!

Peter
Peter
Feb 18, 2021 10:23 PM
Reply to  Ed

Actually the world government. With the Central Banking Cartel at the apex.

tellthetruth
tellthetruth
Feb 15, 2021 3:01 PM

Kennedy needs to take a page out of Dr Wolfgang Wodarg’s book and bring in Reiner Fullemich to sue them for defamation and libel. The vast majority of us are already with him. the media has lost the vaccine messaging battle already.. The good that comes from all their arrogant stupidity is that it is destroying them probably better than simple presentation of facts. People want to know WHY aren’t we allowed to question ANYTHING about the vaccines, why are they pushing SO hard for products they admit don’t provide immunity to disease, what is going on? My very blind family is now waking up slowly and once this next group opens their eyes, its over. They have already lost.

The media has DESTROYED any remaining shreds of its credibility with the Covid scandal, as well as trying to pretend that the mass election fraud that was documented in 2020 didn’t happen. Americans, of all political and non-political stripes are fully aware of the long standing issues with serious documented fraud occurring in our elections and the efforts to blame other countries for their own crimes is only infuriating the public as point. 2016 it was Bernie. 2020 it was Trump. We vote on machines that have been documented to be able to hack remotely without leaving a trace of evidence. On this ONE point alone, elections can’t be considered verifiable and secure. Let alone the trillion other issues. And, people are viewing the ‘insurrection’ where we have videos of the police letting a group of ‘protestors’ in who all had their own camera man and are lined up posing throughout the supposed event with their own camera people. Who do they think they are kidding? Even here in blue land where people voted for Biden, people are rolling their eyes. They lost their own audience all by themselves. People are just tuning them out at this point.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 3:24 PM
Reply to  tellthetruth

Well I’m not with Kennedy, sorry. I’ll stick with the likes of Sarah, thanks.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 4:43 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Vaccines are bs. People need healthy food and this can be easily acheived with creation of settlements of family homesteads.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 4:54 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

All of nature says I don’t need pharma, so.

When the medical establishment is industrial, based on the principles of demonizing nature I consider it my enemy, especially when it happens to be entirely and fundamentally fraudulent, too.

sir isO
sir isO
Feb 15, 2021 7:03 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Goodbye, take care. This site is now damned.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 5:15 PM
Reply to  tellthetruth

I’m trying to understand why Kennedy ISN’T anti-vax. I can’t do the mental work to get there (in terms of sincere reason).

Has anyone asked him that?

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 6:34 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Let me put it this way, he’s already taking flak for his views, right?

Banned from many sites. So he is already considered by the “narrative” as and painted to be anti-vax. That much is clear, if you do a search he’s labelled anti-vax (coz he bitches about safety, correctly), he says he’s pro-vax.

It’s kinda bizarre.

Why wouldn’t he just say he’s anti-vax rather than trying to skirt around it? He’s already ostracized in that regard. There’s no way he can gain anything in terms of the anti-vax population from suggesting he’s pro-vax in the context of things. And the pro-vaxers are kinda vehemently against facts and reason, so…

And yes, I do understand that he might be trying to use the suggestion as being pro-vax so as to appear more reasonable according to the indoctrinated zealots.

But it seems to be past that.

agag fuy
agag fuy
Feb 15, 2021 7:43 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

kenndedy may think vaccine as a concept might be useful on a homeopathic-esque sort of level, but not want the fauci/gates/rockefeller/rothschild GAVI project to continue.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 16, 2021 4:51 AM
Reply to  agag fuy

Maybe you should listen to the man. He says what he thinks. Or do you only ever hear your own thoughts and regard them as too important to be contradicted by actual acts . Or do the facts run counter to your own agenda of trying to edit the speech of those who make sense in order to cobble together some isolated words to make them finally look as disingenuous as your own.

Howard
Howard
Feb 16, 2021 3:19 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

If Robert Kennedy Jr sincerely believes vaccines can be helpful, even life saving; then why would he switch sides and begin condemning vaccines per se simply because his position is mis-represented by the media?

One is not obliged to become what one is portrayed as. Frankly, it would make him less trustworthy if he changed his position whenever the wind blows from a different direction.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 16, 2021 4:52 AM
Reply to  Howard

Why don’t you read what he says on his site and in the videos on the thread ? Then consider what you just said.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 16, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

”Let me put it this way, he’s already taking flak for his views, right?”

Only from shills, disinfo merchants and trolls. So not by anyone who matters.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 8:37 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Compare with an abolitionist message to work out why.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 8:44 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

There’s a video on this thread. It will take 30 minutes to watch then you can come back to run all over the place. But by then you’ll have the answer to your question.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Feb 15, 2021 2:37 PM

What is actually required is a really, really aggressive challenge to the right of MSM anchors to have opinions of their own.

They need to be challenged as CIA agents, operatives, sleepers, fellow-travellers, supine turn-the-other-cheekers etc etc.

Their role in mass murder by the US state overseas needs to be brutally highlighted: i.e. they never, ever, ever consider US murder overseas to be wrong.

When you paint a picture of these ‘anchors’ as basically unprincipled, bought prostitutes who think that mass murder is just one of those things, why on earth are people going to respect them, even tolerate them?

So the key is ensuring that they are never allowed to be immune to having the sun shone on their own so-far-from stellar personal history…..

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:47 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

“They need to be challenged as CIA agents, operatives, sleepers, fellow-travellers, supine turn-the-other-cheekers etc etc.”

Very true, and even on websites. Especially “alt” websites, actually.

GurneySlade
GurneySlade
Feb 16, 2021 10:44 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Yes, to appease the jibbering paranoids and their little ghost buster gangs

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 3:31 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

There’s seventeen other intelligence agencies in the US. All of them work together with intelligence agencies of other countries and Interpol. The idea that what we are facing is an American problem with one rogue agency with too much power detracts from the truth of the situation. Global governance has existed since long before the fictional virus SARSCov2, long before pandemics were manufactured by governments as a tool to control populations, and even before the formation of the UN after WWII.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 16, 2021 5:54 AM
Reply to  Researcher

With the profusion of tech, many private parties have their own Intel. The Koch oligarchs have THEMIS.

Soon every Blofeld in his private volcano stroking his cat. Yikes.

Nightmare
Nightmare
Feb 26, 2021 5:36 PM
Reply to  Researcher

From the article:

“As is well known, or should be, the CIA was the creation of Wall St. and serves the interests of the wealthy owners. ”

The article does not claim that the CIA is calling the shots, but you ae correct that there is more to the deep state than just the CIA.

Also note, the CIA has always pushed one world government and was heavily involved in the movement to create a “united Europe.”

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 26, 2021 7:52 PM
Reply to  Nightmare

There’s two sectors and as a former CIA employee and whistleblower points out there is some confusion within the general public as to which sector does what. One is the cryptocracy or shadow government who are the financiers behind the letter agencies. They are the real rulers or controllers.

Then there’s the institutions, agencies and contractors that have security clearance that is what I call the security state, rather than the “deep state“. So that is several hundred thousand people within the US. And because much of their work is compartmentalized, they probably only have a small idea of what is going on that pertains to their sector or sphere of influence.

Obviously as one gets higher in the chain of command within the security state such as the Joint Chiefs and Secretary of State etc, one has a better overview.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 16, 2021 5:51 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Not just anchors, unfortunately, but *most* of the trim as well. Here is a bon mot by Hunter S. Thompson some years ago, “America…just a nation of 200 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.”

Well, it’s a savage indictment, but you get his point. I know many fine exceptions, but the silent majority does not let out much of a squawk.

TOO too silent.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:27 PM

So this is what Kennedy said in the video Sarah linked…you can try and do the juggling to justify whatever he peddles… good luck with that.

Let’s read what he said again.

I wanna start out by saying this, and I wanna say it in-factly. I am pro-vaccine…I am…I have always been fiercely pro-vaccine. I had all six of my children vaccinated and I believe that we ought to have policies that encourage full vaccination for all Americans…

Sure the exerpt stops there, but that is clear and irrefutable. Anything after that is demagoguery.

Nonetheless, I would still like to thank him for the work he has done in pointing out vaccine related damage. But, regarding his pro-vaccine sentiment, not something I could ever agree with, nor is it anything I will ever associate with.

Howard
Howard
Feb 15, 2021 2:54 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Mr Kennedy has always been pro-vaccince; and has never said otherwise. He is not responsible for the words others attempt to put in his mouth.

If it took that particular video to convince you of his position, then you know nothing about his years attempting to promote vaccine safety as opposed to the outright banning of vaccines.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:58 PM
Reply to  Howard

Well I’ve never really looked at him that much, I’m not much of an idolator.

I’ve seen many articles referencing him and some written by him though. So yeah, I don’t know much about him, except I know he’s pointed out vaccine dangers, but he is also pro-vaccine.

I kinda figured he’d be anti-vax based on the things I’ve read. My bad?

When did he start advocating based on vaccine dangers, btw? Anything particular that happened, or was he just chasing lawsuits?

Let me put it this way, he says pro-vaccines, but worries about dangers (supposedly).

I’m saying, there are no longer vaccine dangers if you take away the vaccines (you know, Trump reference, coz I’m a moron). The other thing is, I have not ever seen valid justification for vaccines. Nor have I seen any evidence that methodologically, elements used and the intent is other than malicious.

So, if I was being cynical, I would say Kennedy is trying uh…state subversion, trojans.

The State doesn’t just want you to obey, it wants to make you WANT to obey.
H. L. Mencken

You understand?

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Feb 15, 2021 5:45 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Is looking at someone in full tantamount to being an idolator?

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 6:03 PM
Reply to  nondimenticare

Certainly.

I had/have more important things to check out. I was concerned with the vaccine issues, I didn’t consider the character all that important considering the context.

What exactly is your point?

It was established that I didn’t know until recently that he’s admittedly a pro-vaxxer, but I also know that he was involved in highlighting vaccine dangers.

Is there any particular reason why I should know anything about him personally?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 8:40 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Is there any particular reason why I should know anything about him personally?”

There’s a few. You can then make sweeping personal observations about him and claim to have reasons to support your views other than ‘everyone’s a liar ‘ ( including pro vaxxers and anti vaxxers.)

Things like your opinion of his ‘personality and mentality’ you observe in a few of your posts. Or that you suspect / speculate possible mercury poisoning because of his debilitating medical condition ( spasmodic dysphonia) or posing so-called hypothetical questions about him suffering neurological issues.

It would also assist your priceless assessment of him and his cause if you understood it. For instance that he is anti- mandatory vaccines, especially of untrialled vaccines. That he accepts vaccines only if they are proven to be safe and free of ill effects- NOT before. That he challenges the science of the pro vaxxers in order to have a public debate in which the people get a choice.

Other than that you seem to know him well.

jc
jc
Feb 15, 2021 3:48 PM
Reply to  Howard

only problem with that is, there’s no such thing as “vaccine safety”.

Howard
Howard
Feb 16, 2021 3:26 AM
Reply to  jc

Of course there isn’t. Vaccines are inherently unsafe. In that regard, I would say Mr Kennedy is chasing windmills in characteristic Quixotic style (this does seem to be a Kennedy trait). He will lose that quest; but there is a certain appeal in such behavior.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 8:42 PM
Reply to  Howard

He’s pro- safe vaccine. he just doesn’t see many- if any at all- out there . He’s pro-banning of ALL vaccines that have failed to reach safety levels and against them being protected by their ‘ status rather than a medical code of ethics.

rosedl
rosedl
Feb 16, 2021 1:45 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Controlled opposition. But, even controlled opposition can do some good, it is often the bridge where people learn about the issues because the rest of us are so censored. Once people then investigate on their own, they realize the tactic and the controlled opposition has to go further and further out. It’s not right but there is opportunity in all of it. There aint no perfect offering. Keep calling out it out.

GurneySlade
GurneySlade
Feb 16, 2021 10:49 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Sure the exerpt stops there, but that is clear and irrefutable.”

Plus it saves thinking or researching. It agrees with your bias or agenda so you’ll cling on to it. You say it stops there but that still makes it ‘clear and irrefutable’- the excerpt that is( as opposed to exerpt). A less than poor effort.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 2:12 PM

People can subscribe directly to RFK’s Children’s Health Defense.

Greenwald, Tiaibbi and Hedges are obvious gatekeepers, like Chomsky. 

Hedges works for RT while selling the propaganda of voting, virus, East vs West, BLM and the faux climate crisis. 

Greenwald wrote for the Guardian, then worked for a billionaire of the cryptocracy, while pushing nonsense frauds like the “Reality Winner” scam on his unsuspecting audience. 

Taibbi worked at the CIA counter-culture rag Rolling Stone and now pens half truths on substack disguising the pre-planned Trump team and MI6-CIA collusion with the Russiagate scam to create a phony hero-villain narrative. 

I don’t know how “journalists” live with themselves after hiding the most essential truths (fiat money fraud, debt enslavement, strawman birth certificates, incorporated governments, common law vs maritime law) from readers, but they seem incapable of courage or uncensored honesty like that shown by Gary Webb who exposed the government’s drug trafficking agenda, specifically targeting the black community.

The world needed a chorus of voices in the alternative media to tell us the truth decades ago and all we got was limited hangout, anti-war half-truths or lie after lie about manufactured crises, manufactured pandemics, manufactured wars and manufactured false flags. 

Now that 99% of us are being subjected to asymmetric warfare, unlawful tyranny, democide and depopulation measures by governments in unison, there is nobody except for two brave doctors and a handful of others who dare to speak truth to power about the absolute fraud rampant in science and medicine. 

Are all men in positions of power, masked errand boys for the cryptocracy?  It certainly appears so.

This world has never had democracy. I don’t read anyone who continues to defend the fraud baked into the system run by the Rockefeller-Rothschild crime cartel through the UN, BIS, IMF, World Bank and all supranational organizations. 

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Feb 15, 2021 5:59 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I worked (semi-volunteer) for an alt media site for years as a transcriber and editor of speeches and interviews of intellectuals of the left. At the beginning, and for a long time afterwards, it was a good thing: It opened my eyes gradually, turned me slowly away from my innocent NYT, NPR self. I was exposed to the thoughts of many people, some of whom I still respect. Until one day my eyes were fully opened and I saw the whole operation warts and all – the limited hangouts, the focus on minor issues. I left.

So was it a positive or negative awakening? Had I been blasted with “the whole truth” early on, would it have been too much for me? And having no background to determine “the truth,” would I have rejected it all, or would I become a wacko, believing everything that countered what I had “known”? I have no answer.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 6:44 PM
Reply to  nondimenticare

Sure. Indoctrination requires unlearning. That’s why people who have been through medical school are resistant to examine germ theory. But on the other hand, once one sees that much of what people generally believe is part of a much larger scam, it’s also very obvious and undeniable. It’s also a more logical explanation.

Claire Stevenson
Claire Stevenson
Feb 16, 2021 5:16 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Thank you for your comment, Researcher! It is very important for people to recognize the reality of controlled opposition, in its various disguises. Too many people do not see through the half-truth/half-lies it works with, and in the present times this discernment is critical.

Nightmare
Nightmare
Feb 26, 2021 5:40 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“they seem incapable of courage or uncensored honesty like that shown by Gary Webb who exposed the government’s drug trafficking agenda, specifically targeting the black community.”

Look what happened to Webb… and Hastings.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 26, 2021 7:29 PM
Reply to  Nightmare

True. If one gets too close to the truth, one might end up dead. But if enough people blow the whistle on the fraud and criminality there’s safety in numbers.

Teresa L
Teresa L
Sep 28, 2021 7:39 AM
Reply to  Researcher

True, what you write about all these guys.

I would also add one little detail that I picked up re Greenwald that I’ve not seen mentioned by anyone else anywhere. SO he was in the Ed Snowden (supposed “docufilm”), “Citizen Four”.

If you read the ending credits carefully, you’ll see some very interesting names of entities that gave financial support to the film…names like “Ford Foundation,” etc….That was my first red flag about Greenwald. I think he’s also a gatekeeper. Ditto with Snowden.

However, wonder what the deal is with Assange? True whistleblower, or another Snowden?

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 28, 2021 1:50 PM
Reply to  Teresa L

Same as Snowden and Laura Poitras. All gatekeepers and intelligence assets. Assange grew up as a member of the Family; an Australian sect or offshoot of the Masonic Order. It’s pretty obvious he was not in the Embassy most of the time (but he had various celebrity guests who cartel signal, all of whom are members of “the order“, to maintain the illusion he was there) and he’s not in prison either. These alleged imprisonments of famous gatekeepers aren’t real. The courts are not real. Televised and famous trials are basically staged productions. Almost nothing in the media is real besides occasional half truths in the finance section.

Once you recognize cartel signalling and Gematria you’ll see it everywhere.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 1:55 PM

The pro choice/ vaccine safety advocates are actually psychopaths.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 1:56 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Yes, they are, irrational, psychopathic, idiotic and spiritually devoid. Most of them too stupid to understand that pharma would like nothing more than degenerate them more.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 2:42 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

There was a show on the highwire just before the whole covid thing and it was one of their own people from their staff, I can’t remember her name dieing from chemo and they did nothing to help her. They’re loyal to the allopaths to the point of not helping their own team and putting out an interview with her dieing in her home. It was pretty creepy.

RFK admits to taking the flu vaccine. That’s how pro vaxx he is. Promoting him as some sort of leader is just to absorb antivaxx attention and reduce the movements impact. Keeping them in a very weak defensive position rather than on the offense calling for suspension of the vaccine programme and protecting all children. If they want to talk safe vaccines and choice that is something that can be considered after the dangerous ones are suspended.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 3:26 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Yeah we gotta just cut through the layers of that “idol” “higher self” bullshit and address the actual mechanics.

If someone else wants to go get himself injected with vaccines, I don’t really care, I mean, I’d prefer you dont or warn you if I know it’s dangerous or try dissuade, but that’s your problem ultimately.

When you talk shit about the “necessity”, safety, or try to force it though you are going to get all kinds of fucked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqgpY6tJ4tg

Some scripture

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 4:06 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

He takes the flu vaccine? Are you sure? Because he knows there’s mercury and aluminum in the flu shots.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 5:29 PM
Reply to  Researcher

The first time I heard him speak, his speech impediment seemed oddly similar to something like mercury toxicity to me.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 6:12 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

That’s a peculiar downvote. Was I alarmingly accurate?

Apparently he’s also had that speech impediment for quite some time…

https://www.medicinenet.com/mercury_poisoning/article.htm

Does Kennedy have other motor function issues, respiratory, nervous system?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 8:26 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Not an in depth medical check up then.

According to the medical profession it’s Spasmodic Dysphonia.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 10:01 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

If they have his DNA, which I am sure the military does they can directly target his brain to cause motor neuron dysfunction. They could poison his food, expose him to toxic chemicals or heavy metals all without vaccination. I would expect that he is a target since his lawsuits on pollution in the energy and chemical industry made him many enemies in high places. Most of his family has been targeted by the psychopaths in the Pentagon. Some quite recently.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 18, 2021 6:45 AM
Reply to  Researcher

They supposedly tried to kill Castro for 5 decades or so. If they had succeeded, it would have meant the loss of some jobs and budgets. Just like the the war in Afghanistan, Syria, etc. The vaccine scam is the same: keeping the flow of money going.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 18, 2021 8:52 AM
Reply to  mgeo

And the Cold War. The same thing. It’s all a scam to funnel the money into the defense industry. Governments exist to partner with the corporations to steal the money from taxpayers to commit horrific crimes against them. And people actually vote for this.

Cognitive Dissonance.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 8:28 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

You understand very little .You support even less.

tellthetruth
tellthetruth
Feb 15, 2021 3:02 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Most of them are paid trolls. They all have the same talking points and the majority of people don’t think it is radical to question emergency approved drugs.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 3:18 PM
Reply to  tellthetruth

“They all have the same talking points and the majority of people don’t think it is radical to question emergency approved drugs.”

But people have been deceived horribly by vaccines.

At this moment, vaccine aluminum toxicity levels is off by probably 2-5 orders of magnitude, in terms of actual effect. That’s one known problem, with obvious evidence that it is based on massively flawed shit.

How many people question that? And that’s one ingredient, known to cause rather significant systemic damage, used far beyond even THEIR bullshit safety specification and known to be incredibly toxic.

That’s the “approved” shit, so, yeah…

Carnyx
Carnyx
Feb 15, 2021 12:29 PM

Billy Boy trots out his daughter.

https://www.rt.com/usa/515570-bill-gates-daughter-covid-vaccine/

Hey Bill when you were on your mate Jeffery’s island did you see the daughters of the ‘lesser people’ there? Any pangs of guilt? Any questions as why they were there? I mean you knew what he was right…

Try again scumbag

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 2:31 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

As if she got anything other than a Vitamin shot or saline. So absurd that people believe propaganda such as this when hundreds of people have already died from the vaccine according to VAERS.

Approximately only 1% of adverse events from drugs and vaccines are believed to be reported, therefore the deaths could be in the thousands. As the period of time lengthens between the shot and any death, those deaths are less likely to be attributed to the synthetic injectable pathogen even though it could be the cause or catalyst.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Feb 15, 2021 2:40 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Totally agree

Do I take anything these scumbags circulate at face value…. Hell no!

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 3:07 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

Absolutely. I just had to add it, since it’s so obvious to me that Gates and the other psychopaths like Fauci, Johnson et al would never let themselves or their children near a dangerous experimental and unnecessary genetic alteration device.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 3:55 PM
Reply to  Researcher

If people want “good” genetic alteration, try castor oil and proton bathing.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 4:03 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Castor oil internally or externally?

Isolated flavonoids repair and excise damaged DNA and RNA. That’s what works according to the scientific literature I have found.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 5:33 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“Castor oil internally or externally?”

Well, both. Like castor oil as “lotion” with sunlight on proton heavy days.

I remember some things about beneficial effects regarding internal usage too. Mostly hepatotoxicity related, iirc.

But hey I say random things.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Ecklonia Cava, PQQ, those silkworm enzymes are supposed to be good.

I’ve tried ecklonia cava, and tentatively I would say it helped to repair some nervous system damage, but I only used it for a month. I don’t have money to buy things.

As it is I rely on marijuana, kratom and low level alcohol (homebrew “beer”) to not be entirely suicidal. And kratom is very expensive (for me), but I don’t know anything better.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 7:20 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

PQQ is an adaptogen. Could be helpful. I was reading an interesting paper the other day in relation to Parkinson’s Disease.

So you are self medicating with drugs and alcohol. Did you ever consider that suicidal thoughts are probably just withdrawal symptoms. Anyway, the pigeon is cute.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 15, 2021 8:17 PM
Reply to  Researcher

No, you misunderstand. I was suicidal before I started drinking.

The nervous system damage is excruciating, psychologically I’m ruined because of the abuse, betrayal, etc.

Trauma kills.

So…Just saying goodbye.

“And when I break you’ll know it’s over.”

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 15, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Not directed at you…more at the qlippoth things here.

I’m letting go

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 15, 2021 8:25 PM
Reply to  Researcher

OG is very compromised, btw.

And now it’s over.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 15, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Come on, let me at least post this exit theme

https://youtu.be/D9cERLLasUc

UC?

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:34 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

Try again scumbag”

No, he should never be given an opportunity at anything again ever.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Feb 15, 2021 2:41 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Why not? With each fresh attempt they look all the more pathetic.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 3:40 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

That’s meaningless. They’re meaningless.

tellthetruth
tellthetruth
Feb 15, 2021 3:03 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

Its desperation. He is probably one of the most distrusted people in the world. Its backfiring. Keep it up!

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 8:22 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

We know what Gates is. We know what Epstein was. The only things they had in common is a lust for money, power, intelligence clearances, and influence. Unfortunately, too many people are slavering for ‘sexual’ details and the salacious gossip. Who cares.

The connection between them both and the reason for their meetings and the middle man who brokered their later dealings are important to what Gates, the CIA and Schwab have put on us right now. The final piece of business and the final document Epstein signed was in his cell and involved the Gates cartel. Then, 48 hours later, once the ink had dried, Epstein was dead.

Brannon
Brannon
Feb 15, 2021 12:18 PM

Perhaps not the best example but it be great if RFK Jr were to become the American Emperor Claudius… Survived the assassination spree that ended with the killing of JFK jr due to his health handicaps, eventually rising to save the nation.

No doubt JFK jr would have been swept into the Whitehouse in the 2000 election avoiding GWBush era…

Also strange how JFKs dad Joseph Kennedy suffered a stroke Dec 1961. Thereafter, he suffered from aphasia, which severely affected his ability to speak but he remained mentally alert and fully aware but powerless as both his sons JFK and RFK were murdered. His condition began a year before JFKs death and he finally died a year after RFK died. It was as if the Dad was intentionally immobilized with aphasia that maintained his full awareness forcing him to endure the heartbreak of 2 dead sons and the destruction of their vision for America and the world.

Another strange fact relates to JFKs back brace that he wore that fatal day in Dallas. He was unable to duck or even attempt such due to the back brace. He had to wear it after the Canadian PM forced JFK to plant a tree. It wrenched JFKs back forcing him to wear the brace from then on. Details here…

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/andrew-king-jfk-and-how-a-tree-planting-at-rideau-hall-rippled-through-history

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 2:35 PM
Reply to  Brannon

Interesting. I believe RFK jnr has been targeted by the cryptocracy and his speech affected on purpose. His condition is so unusual and rare.

Brannon
Brannon
Feb 15, 2021 7:08 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Agree

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 10:47 AM

Just a (full) recorded interview with Robert Kennedy JR, The point of interest being vaccinations at 23:00. 

I only put this up as the latest shill effort here is to push him as pro-vaccine, and linking 25 seconds of an interview from a much longer one to suit the shill argument.

The slice has Kennedy saying ”I’m pro vaccine’‘ and then it’s cut before he can finish. The intention is to try and out anti- vaxxers as hypocrites. That goes nicely with Facebook and Twitter banning him for asking the right questions of course.

Then it gets shilled about the internet among other nose powder monkeys and the ignorant who want to derail conversations with their bullshit.

The MSM puppet, trying to obey his orders as they pour down his earpiece , mentions a typical Gates quote ” scientific studies’. Kennedy keeps it simple for the simple.

” Show me the study and I’ll quit my job and post it on my website..”

He goes on to say it’s the only medicine that’s not tested and that it comes under military rules first, not medical. So they can claim exemption when problems arise. In other words they’re weaponizing medicine and don’t care about testing it properly.

We know now that he’s right. Gates and Fauci and co have said they’re ‘trying’ to trial vaccines in months that would normally require 10 years. Thus backing up exactly what Kennedy had been telling us way before this crap.

Kennedy was there to be shot at. Gates / Fauci proved his words to be truthful. And, if that’s not enough, they made sure to secure immunity from all prosecution before the first vaccine was administered.

He goes on to say if you were born before 1989 you have a 12% chance of contracting a chronic disease. If you were born after 1989 you have a 54% chance.

Yet we hear none of these numbers quoted in our daily pro-vax politician’s speeches. Or from Mister Data -and -Models -Gates.

Bobby Kenney pro-vaxxer ? wake the f*k up.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 12:32 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

We know now that he’s right. Gates and Fauci and co have said they’re ‘trying’ to trial vaccines in months that would normally require 10 years. Thus backing up exactly what Kennedy had been telling us way before this crap.

That is nonsense. Vaccines have always been developed rapidly in an absense of any science or safety testing and they know it full well. Del Bigtree hasnt uploaded old videos to his site after being deleted from youtube. This document proving they know full well there never was any “10 year trials” was removed from the highwires website. This archived link was put in the video description and worked a few weeks ago. It is a big document and takes a long time to load so maybe it will work later.

web.archive.org/web/20190607054429/https://icandecide.org/government/FDA-Production-FOIA.pdf

https://www.activistpost.com/2019/04/mmr-vaccine-approved-after-only-42-day-trials-in-1978-per-fda-foia-reports.html

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 12:52 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

It is here but it still was moved without a customary redirect so the link is dead and most people won’t find it. the video is not on the highwire site.

https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/FDA-Production-FOIA.pdf

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:00 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Well as long as Kennedy is thoroughly against any vaccines. If he is, I guess I owe him an apology, but something seems off.

There is nothing about the concept, ingredients, processes involved regarding vaccines that is anything other than damaging.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Why do you think Bigtree never uploaded this video to his site?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 5:11 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

What I’ve said is on record. I’m delivering that as a message. What i said Gates and Fauci have said and what Kennedy was saying ids all there to be looked at.

You saying it’s nonsense means nothing.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 5:35 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

She didn’t say any nonsense.

Point out some of it, you are currently on the wrong side. Here’s your chance.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Ok well yeah, he did say pro-vaccine in that video Saraha posted earlier, so he can fuckoff.

“I have always been pro-vaccine” he says.

There is no getting around that.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 15, 2021 3:32 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

It’s easy to get around things that don’t exist.
He is on record as saying quite clearly that he is not an anti-vaxxer, but he is anti unsafe vaxxes – which includes most of them today.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 6:25 PM
Reply to  wardropper

“He is on record as saying quite clearly that he is not an anti-vaxxer, but he is anti unsafe vaxxes – which includes most of them today.”

All of them are unsafe and based on fraudulent principles, with fraudulent safety associated, with incredibly dodgy ingredients known to be toxic, much of the data hidden, etc.

So again, that seems subversive.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 6:40 PM
Reply to  wardropper

You’re using common sense and evidence to support an argument wardropper. That would have been a great idea on this forum a week or two back. Not any more unfortunately.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 16, 2021 4:07 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Oh, it will make a comeback, I’m sure.
Although I really should follow my own advice and not feed the animals…

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 16, 2021 4:27 PM
Reply to  wardropper

like that last stubborn little ‘nugget’ that just refuses to be flushed 😉

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 5:14 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Watching the video that includes the sentence that leads to that and the one that follows ‘gets around’ it.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 5:35 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling
JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 6:42 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

I’ve linked a half hour interview on this thread. be where you choose. I choose to be where the evidence is.

The point of this segment of what seems to be passing as a discussion is whether Bobby Kennedy is pro or anti vax. It’s about his position.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 15, 2021 8:04 AM

Very admirable and accurate article, thanks, and it ends discreetly with a challenge rather than set opinions, as such: since so much is mired in the shadows, let’s shine light deeper and deeper.

As deep as we can, in any case: it is not clear that we can vouch for the probity of anyone, especially in American media (of any kind), be it paid or “free”. But at least we can get sketches of our masked assailants by their victims, and in comparing them there are at least more hopes of an accurate “composite”.

Of course, as Curtin points out, most of the sketchers are being directly, or indirectly, funded by The Club.

It plays right into James J. Angleton’s “Wilderness of Mirrors” miasmal strategy, as 1st Director of Counterintelligence for CIA, 1950-1975.

Only in the realm of true prophecy (Truth) can we trump their legions of countless false prophets. Where to draw the dividing line?

Alas, the rest is smoke and mirrors!

Lynn M
Lynn M
Feb 15, 2021 7:33 AM

Robert Kennedy plays both sides of the vaccine equation. Sorry to break it to people but he is absolutely Pro-vaccine.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 7:56 AM
Reply to  Lynn M

That’s what he says.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 15, 2021 8:17 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Like Angleton “bequeathed” us: “A Wilderness of Mirrors”.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 12:26 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Have you thought that concept is so that others can project their garbage at you, so as to shift blame?

Most of those mirrors aren’t mirrors.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 16, 2021 6:01 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Pointing out nuances, always welcome, but they are extrapolating a system as well to absorb our very identities into those mirrors. They want the public to remain unaware of that. Hence, my alarms.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 10:19 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

And the rest of the interview is chopped. The part with the ‘buts’.

The part where he talks about being strongly against the Gates cartel delivering poisonous vaccines that paralyse, handicap or kill. The biological weapons he calls vaccines.

selective shilling but shilling either way. If you want to state a position look for more than one short sound bite and one side of an argument. There are more people than you think out here that are wise to bullshit tactics and unsupportable crap

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 15, 2021 11:24 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Many people know full well what blah blah blah… but… blah blah blah means.

Judith
Judith
Feb 15, 2021 12:08 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Shiva ran against Joe Kennedy III in Massachusetts last year.

Watch Kennedy’s full interviews.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 5:00 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

It means you should read more and speak less

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 16, 2021 6:06 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Such a small world, Joe Kennedy was married in our church down the street here in Corona Del Mar, CA. (Same one Kobe Bryant went to pre-dawn Mass with his family, 2 hours before the mysterious black boxless crash.) FWIW. (Some may connect dots that others can’t see.)

NiceSmeagol
NiceSmeagol
Feb 15, 2021 10:57 AM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

It looked like after the deep breath and the mouth of a “B” that there was a big But on its way. Look let’s take what people say in it’s entirity. Most of us here are big enough and ugly enough to make up our own minds and blatant misdirection and misinformation is tacky to say the least Sarah.

Judith
Judith
Feb 15, 2021 12:06 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Sarah, do you think you could play THE REST OF THAT VIDEO????

To anyone on this comment section watching the video – please go and watch any number of Kennedy interviews. What he says is that he is pro – vaccines’ that are tested and proven safe and effective. He also is quite specific in saying that NO VACCINES have been sufficiently tested or are safe and effective.

Also, I cannot speak for Kennedy or others aligned with him, but there strategy, whether people like it or not, is to emphasize – and I don’t blame them – FREEDOM OF CHOICE and INFORMED CONSENT.

The question is not vaxxed or anti-vax. It is about each and every persons right to choose their own course. Some people in the movement do not believe in the safety of vaccines at all, ever. Some would like to see safe vaccines.

Again, I would urge folk to listen to other FULL interviews with Kennedy before making a judgement.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 6:46 PM
Reply to  Judith

Judith, it’s a bit trickier than just that.

For adults (or informed people) you could argue it’s about personal choice.

In terms of babies and children though, suddenly you have a bit of a problem.

Now, if I know the vaccines cause damage…it means I know every child being vaccinated is tantamount to child abuse…

Choice regarding that then is delegated to parents. So then, the parents might not be informed, aside from it being imposition. The result is still child abuse, which some are aware of.

Judith
Judith
Feb 15, 2021 8:52 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

My point was about the Kennedy video

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 9:28 AM
Reply to  Lynn M

He always seemed off (like he tries to play the fame game), despite some of his good work, but I didn’t know he is pro-vaccine.

Thanks, now I know why he’s off…no fucking way can I respect pro-vaxxers.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Feb 15, 2021 10:15 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Is he not famous enough already with that surname? He wouldn’t have to do a tap for attention

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:39 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

“Is he not famous enough already with that surname?”

Well I can’t answer that. Imo he is certainly famous enough. But that’s not what’s going on in his mind, is it? Do you know what his personal character is like, or what his intentions and ambitions are?

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 6:51 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

Do you ?

The personality and mentality of a public figure only matters to the herd addicted to celebrity and living most of their lives in magazines and on social networks who have nothing to ‘goss’ about.

If a public figure is using his profile to promote a genuine cause from which he doesn’t make any profit and who is fighting against those who are, then that’s all you need to know about his ‘personality’. And if that doesn’t illustrate what’s ‘going on in his mind’ and what his intentions have always been and still are, you need to switch channels and wait for celebrity dancing or whatever’s trending.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 10:15 AM
Reply to  Lynn M

He’s on record in print and in interviews as saying he is pro-vaccines that are proven to work and not harm anyone and that are trialled ethically.

What he is against is the creation of vaccines that are unethical, untrialled, made for reasons of financial profits, and deliberately made with the intention of being weapons to use against those who accept them.

You chose to take the first line and ignore the whole interview. But i suppose you had your reasons to want to mislead.

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 2:41 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

“He’s on record in print and in interviews as saying he is pro-vaccines that are proven to work and not harm anyone and that are trialled ethically.”

Except, that has never been the case with any vaccines ever. And, it is not possible, either. If you consider it’s based on (intentionally) fundamentally flawed methodological reasoning.

By his reasoning, he might very well consider the vaccines administered to his children to be safe (incorrectly). That’s where the problem LIES.

As such, I consider him counter to the ideals I have (and others have, though we are marginalized) and subversive.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 5:07 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

He’s researched the area from a lot of years from all angles and acknowledged the pros and cons of all angles and all sides. He’s examined the good and the bad science and the genuine as well as the duplicitous claims of all sides.

His agenda is to prevent people being hurt or killed by untested poisons that are being paid for to get through congress and, by extension, all parliaments. Nobody else has done that or is doing it with the same amount of conviction. ”I don’t trust anyone or anything” needs some more research-based evidence to counter all that.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Feb 15, 2021 5:20 PM
Reply to  Qafsiel

By that thinking, anyone who says they’re pro all countries disarming so there’s no wars and genocide should abandon that too because it’s never happened.

Any method that can show a vaccine harms or kills needs to be made public. Any that has shown not to should be too. Then , if any actual scientists or virologists out there want to use their experience to explain to that public where and why it’s flawed then we begin to approach truth.

Kennedy, for his part, has invited those behind the paper that is ‘scientific evidence’ supporting the safety and benefit of vaccines to give it to him and he’ll post it on his website and quit his job.

Have any of the pro-vaxxers put their balls on the line in that way ?

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 15, 2021 6:49 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

“Have any of the pro-vaxxers put their balls on the line in that way ?”

Of course not, and there are MANY anti-vaxxers, some doctors that have researched things. And we clearly see them being marginalized, attacked and censored.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Feb 15, 2021 10:17 AM
Reply to  Lynn M

When did he say he was anti Vaccine?
And the guy who edited that video has an agenda against Kennedy.
Did you watch the whole video?
Or even bother to look it up

Judith
Judith
Feb 15, 2021 12:11 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Watch Robert Kennedy Jr’s series TRUTH from 2020 with Polly Tommey

Watch his interview on Valuetainment

Read Children’s Health Defense

For a start.

Howard
Howard
Feb 15, 2021 1:19 PM
Reply to  Lynn M

He’s always said he’s pro-vaccine; he’s never said otherwise. His concern is vaccine safety; but that’s something that can never be attained.

It’s only the media that’s dubbed him anti-vaccine – because they somehow still believe calling someone anti-vax carries a great deal of weight, which is no longer does.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 2:49 PM
Reply to  Howard

Exactly. But the label itself exists to smear anyone who questions vaccines or disputes their false safety record.

Vaccine safety can never be attained because they are pathogenic primers and the concept of vaccination as boosting immunity is false and completely fraudulent.

Every time someone is given a vaccine they are being injected with harmful and toxic adjuvants and the introduction of foreign animal and human tissue including cancerous and genetically modified cells and proteins.

Vaccination is contributing to the epidemic of auto immune disorders, metabolic disorders, cancers, asthma and allergy in vaccinated populations. These types of diseases are generally absent in the unvaccinated.

Chillout
Chillout
Feb 18, 2021 1:12 AM
Reply to  Lynn M

Who cares which side he is on. He offers great information that you can’t get anywhere else. Perhaps he’s just playing devils advocate. So what. At least he’s getting you to think about vaccines. Look at both sides of the equation then decide for yourself which side you want to be on. It is possible to be on both sides. The bottom line is we need honesty and transparency. Something we aren’t getting from the medical establishment.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 15, 2021 4:12 AM

Indeed, we are only seeing the outer layers of the onion.
If we survive long enough to get to the core, we’ll probably find Beelzebub himself sitting there, smiling.
This isn’t official carelessness, nor is it “human error”.
It is the work of the devil.

Who else could give Instagram the authority to switch off an articulate and reasonable man like Kennedy?
Who else could give Twitter the authority to suffocate the voice of the President of the United States (bumpkin though he be)?
Who else could encourage the whole of Washington to use the Constitution as toilet paper?

Certainly not a human being.

Bryan Lafferty
Bryan Lafferty
Feb 15, 2021 6:47 AM
Reply to  wardropper

CIA was always an explicitly Chtistian org and is currently run as an international missionary Church.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 15, 2021 8:31 AM
Reply to  Bryan Lafferty

In name only: let’s be clear, the biggest pirates always target the biggest vessels

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Feb 15, 2021 2:01 PM
Reply to  Bryan Lafferty

The CIA may have used a ‘Christian cover story’ to buy respectability, but its actions (the only thing to judge any Christian with) would make any real Christian want to vomit.

The CIA is the violent arm of global hegemonists and always has been.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 15, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Bryan Lafferty

Depends on what you mean by ‘Christian’.
Jesus never went near the CIA.
Too full of Scribes and Pharisees.

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
Feb 19, 2021 7:24 PM
Reply to  wardropper

touché

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 15, 2021 8:28 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Like the Apostle accurately reported, “We do not wrestle with creatures of flesh and blood but with spiritual wickedness in high places.” Always a constant, now nearly omnipresent as well.

Franz Kafka weighed in 1900 years later, just to give it broader scope: “The reasons you have to accomodate the Evil One are not your own but those of the Evil One.”

Just tell that to your friendly neighborhood mask enforcers.

(Apologies if the quotes are not verbatim. Close enough.)

artgrafiken
artgrafiken
Feb 15, 2021 1:27 AM

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Post Hoc
Post Hoc
Feb 15, 2021 1:12 AM

“Hancock, Whitty, Vallance, and Ferguson Stand Accused of Pandemic Fraud”

“….each of whom has inextricable and ultimately incriminating connections with Bill Gates and Big Pharma”

https://mewe.com/i/michaelobernicia
https://gab.com/TheBernician
https://www.minds.com/thebernician/

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
Feb 15, 2021 12:21 AM

We survived that short cold blast for 2 weeks, mainly by doubling up pyjamas and 2 dressing gowns, and blankets and hot water bottle…

But it is warming up now and it will be Spring within a week.

Its not that cold now.

You do not need to wear that stupid mask

Elsewhere – it is extremely cold in The USA and Russia, and it may again get very cold here. We have had snow at Easter – even at Gatwick.

The Climate Changes. It’s Normal. The Thames might freeze over next winter..and even the sea. It wouldn’t be the first time. Is our government prepared for this???

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p.brooksmcginis
p.brooksmcginis
Feb 14, 2021 11:43 PM

PROFESSOR DOLORES CAHILL: WHY PEOPLE WILL START DYING A FEW MONTHS AFTER THE FIRST MRNA VACCINATIONhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/sO5hXcM0qdaI/

All War is Evil

LeaveMeAlone
LeaveMeAlone
Feb 14, 2021 11:38 PM

The Fugitive

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Bull Gator
Bull Gator
Feb 14, 2021 11:32 PM

I had just read Greenwald’s last 2 articles and they are excellent and required reading.

I came to the conclusion after reading those articles, exactly what Mr. Curtin has stated emphatically here. It’s an Organized Criminal Group which has various wings so to speak. The UniParty which really transcends the Atlantic Ocean and has members of the various political parties of the US, UK, EU etc. Only fringe representation in Russia, China and Iran. All of the Legacy Mainstream Media and the new so called Tech Digital Clown Stream Media and Communication Platforms. Of course the CIA, MI5 etc etc are the managers for the Uber Rich.

The problem today is that like the old Blue Bloods of Nobility in Europe, the Uber Rich are Mentally ILL, and in so many ways its seems impossible to be true. But yes they are sociopaths, psychopaths, pedophiles, sexual deviants and likely many other things as well. The mouthpieces or water carriers, (ie, reporters and correspondents) for the Media are people who dream of being part of the Uber Rich and do sell their bodies, minds and souls for just the chance to have glance of the perverted delights their mentors and bosses chat about and let them be in earshot for an obvious purpose.

The only positive thought I can give everyone is to just remember how to successful the Intelligence Agencies have been for the last 75 years. Yes I know that they have had an occasional accident that seemed to work out how they planned, just like how the MSM reported their Einsteinian Genius in such glowing accolades for the Masses consumption. A broken clock, at least the the old versions with hour and minute hands still has the correct time twice a day. If you knew of all the antics of the so called Intelligence Agencies, they would love to have that high rate of success.

So the Covid hysteria and the Great Reset and all the other current BS will just be another massive clusterfuck like 99.99% of all the PsyOps and real Ops of the past. Just hope they don’t irreversibly destroy the planet this time around.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 2:56 PM
Reply to  Bull Gator

“Only fringe representation in Russia, China and Iran.”

False. The model being exported to the West is based on the Chinese model of censorship, mass surveillance and social credit.

Moreover since the criminal cartel that run the world do so through the monetary system, China, Russia and Iran’s central banks are all members of the BIS and owned by the same Rockefeller-Rothschild cabal that owns the Fed, and all the other central banks and run out of the City of London Corp and the Vatican bank.

When Greenwald et al start talking about the banks then they’ll have something worthwhile to impart. Until then, they’re purposefully distracting from the perpetrators of this global fraud and hiding the levers and mechanisms of control.

Guy
Guy
Feb 14, 2021 11:18 PM

Edwards words always hit the proverbial nail on the head .I am in awe of such eloquence in his writings.
I hope for long life for this man as the world needs hear such truths.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Feb 14, 2021 11:16 PM

“As FDR put it bluntly in 1933, this coterie of wealthy forces is the “financial element in the larger centers [that] has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” Their wealth and power has increased exponentially since then, and their connected tentacles have further spread to create what is an international deep state that involves such entities as the IMF, the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, those who meet yearly at Davos, etc.”
The same FDR whose “New Deal” administration put the Council on Foreign Relations in charge of US foreign policy and its minions in power created the… IMF and the World Bank and entire post War US dominated world order, including the US alliance with Saudi Arabia (sealed by FDR and Kind Saud on a boat in the Nile in Cairo in 1945. Domestically, the people in charge were the likes of GE president Gerard Swope, Union Pacific/Union Bank head W. Averell Harriman, and Herbert Lehman of… Lehman Brothers, the architects of the New Deal.

“There is a reason Noam Chomsky is an exemplar for Hedges, Greenwald, and Taibbi. He controls the can opener for so many. He has set the parameters for what is considered acceptable to be considered a serious journalist or intellectual. The assassinations of the Kennedys, 9/11, or a questioning of the official Covid-19 story are not among them, and so they are eschewed.
To denounce censorship, as they have done, is admirable. But now Greenwald, Taibbi, and Hedges need go up to the forbidden gate with the sign that says – “This far and no further” – and jump over it. That’s where the true stories lie. That’s when they’ll see the worms squirm.”
YES!!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Feb 15, 2021 8:49 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

At least FDR chose Henry Wallace as his VP, before powerful forces squeezed him out, and shortly before Roosevelt died, leaving us Truman.

I take it as some sign of good faith that FDR would have implemented his “Second Bill of Rights” had he lived. Ironically, but not surprisingly, those rights took hold in Europe but not here, with his widow Eleanor shepherding the “Declaration of the Universal Rights of Man” with Jacques Maritain and others.

And that he called out the corporations, as Jefferson also did, by leaving us the Big Clue that the U.S. had not been a democracy since “at least 1820” and Andrew Jackson.

This is why some may call it “USA, Inc.”

Jill
Jill
Feb 14, 2021 10:44 PM

This is an excellent article. Thank you for writing with such clarity.

I wanted to share something which happened in Travis Co. Texas. The following comes from the Rutherford Institute. It shows how censorship has been successfully excused and encouraged in open forums. This is the exact equivalent to what happened to Mr. Kennedy on social media only this is happening in a citizen/govt. official exchange: “AUSTIN, Tex. — At a time when individuals who question COVID-19 protocols are finding themselves increasingly silenced or censored on social media and elsewhere, The Rutherford Institute has issued a strong warning to government officials that the First Amendment prohibits them from censoring individuals who take part in legislative public comment sessions based on the content of their speech.

In a letter to the Travis County (Tex.) Commissioners Court, Institute attorneys allege that a county resident had her allotted three-minute speaking time cut short during a public comment period after she questioned the County’s protocol for dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic…
“While on paper—at least according to the U.S. Constitution—we are technically free to speak, it is becoming increasingly evident we are only as free to speak as a government official—or corporate entities such as Facebook, Google or YouTube—may allow.”
MAKE THE GOVERNMENT PLAY BY THE RULES OF THE CONSTITUTION: SUPPORT THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOMOn January 12, 2021, the Travis County Commissioners Court held its regularly scheduled public meeting. Due to a public health emergency declaration, members of the public were barred from physically attending the meeting but were able to view a live-stream video of the meeting and could call in and address the Commissioners for three minutes during a public comment period. Given that a major topic of the meeting was the County’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the County’s Interim Health Authority (IHA) attended the meeting virtually, and reported to and answered questions from Commissioners. At 12:16 p.m., county resident Jennifer Fleck was recognized and allowed to address the Court via telephone. Fleck voiced her concerns about the IHA’s COVID-19 protocols as they related to vaccines, mask mandates and the overall severity of the pandemic on community members. Two-thirds of the way through Fleck’s allotted time to speak, the Court Judge directed that her call be terminated, stating “I’m not going to promote people who are saying false things about COVID.”

https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/2-9-21_Fleck_Letter.pdf

If you listen to what she said there was nothing false about any of it. She absolutely has high quality science behind what she was asserting.

Just so, the journalists and Chomsky may all write things of value. However, they clearly act as gatekeepers and some have had strong ties to those who work w/intelligence agencies. I see them as propaganda for people who used to listen to NPR. Just as questions about covid cannot honestly be raised or evaluated, it is significant when “investigative intellectuals” refuse to allow questions about 9/11. Evidence of govt. lies concerning that event is being presented in courts of law. This does not mean that evidence is beyond question. It does mean that some really good evidence exists that is worthy of honest examination.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 15, 2021 4:20 AM
Reply to  Jill

Thank you for that information, Jill.
It all fits perfectly into the ‘narrative’ with which we are supposed to make ourselves gag by trying to swallow it.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 15, 2021 12:47 PM
Reply to  Jill

Excellent comment Jill. Thank you for that.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 15, 2021 5:33 PM
Reply to  Jill

This does not mean that evidence is beyond question.

Peter
Peter
Feb 14, 2021 10:01 PM

Commandment on OffG

Thou shalt not utter the name of thy Lord in vain.

(Lord R).

Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
Feb 14, 2021 10:00 PM

And who owns the corporate Media??????

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 14, 2021 10:04 PM

Blackrock, vanguard, state street corporation and some others????

Peter
Peter
Feb 15, 2021 4:16 AM

The dominant community.

thenumbereight
thenumbereight
Feb 15, 2021 1:43 PM

its not important who owns the media <the media is merely the gate way to the mind of the masses. What is important is who provides the direction to, and who pays the content providers who write the false, misleading or made up (FMM) propaganda. The front page of the corporate income tax form clearly shows a separate line deduction item to make sure corporations don’t miss the government subsidy corporations are given to support the privately owned media Military industrial intelligence digital media complex controls. The media do told just like the article says.

Corporations add the cost of the advertising subsidy to the price of their products and services, and then they deduct that additional cost when they file their income tax reports. If there were no deduction for support the media advertising there would likely be far greater numbers of media, then just a few and media might be forced to survive on subscriber revenues instead of government subsidized corporate contribution.

Government then uses Advertising to support the private media that publish the contents which providers of content offer for publication. The media owners are just Military-industrial-intelligence-digital-media-complex-controlled (MIIDMCC) icons fronting for the boundless globally integrated intelligence services which conduct corruptions on the masses as directed by the Oligarch and their wealth. .

Neuroscience and Psychology can accurately predict the content maneuvers needed to use media to remotely control human mind audiences.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 16, 2021 11:27 AM
Reply to  thenumbereight

It is important who owns the media.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 15, 2021 5:35 PM

who owns the corporate Media?

— ooh! ooh! I know! — the corporations!

Antipropo
Antipropo
Feb 14, 2021 10:00 PM

It’s a shame you feel the need to praise with faint damns the likes of Taibbi and others and I must point out that they*The Grayzone* etc have a growing audience. I fail to see how criticism of people making a serious effort to enlighten the sweaty masses is helpful.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Feb 14, 2021 11:17 PM
Reply to  Antipropo

Limited enlightenment is a form of “limited hangout.”

OURCONSTITUTION.INFO
OURCONSTITUTION.INFO
Feb 14, 2021 9:33 PM

Better jump over it — seems all they need is one’s DNA to break into your mind. EVERYONE MUST PROTEST, AND DEMAND OUR BRAINWAVES AND RELATED INFORMATION IS PRIVATE (SEE MY LINKS BELOW). See something you never thought you would hear happening in America – THIS VIDEO MIGHT BE THE MOST HORRID THING YOU WILL KNOW – everyone should get this out to EVERYONE THEY KNOW: https://youtu.be/iEgZQgP9SMs

EdwinElEnemyDeLosAnunaki
EdwinElEnemyDeLosAnunaki
Feb 14, 2021 9:31 PM

Ah Ha!Thanks.(*_*)
Btw:Dr.Scott McQuate Is The TRUTH!!

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 14, 2021 9:36 PM

What’s he do?

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Feb 14, 2021 9:23 PM

The uberlords don´t want the truth be told. It figures.
Covid-19 vaccine deaths – Berlin nursing home whistleblower speaks outThe Wall Will Fall, vanessa beeley / 2 hours ago ,2 hours ago
Via 2020News. Audio in the link. 

..within four weeks after the first vaccination with the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine, eight of 31 seniors, who suffered from dementia but were in good physical condition according to their age before the vaccination, died. The first death occurred after only six days, and five other seniors died approximately 14 days after vaccination.
https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/02/14/covid-19-vaccine-deaths-berlin-nursing-home-whistleblower-speaks-out/

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Feb 14, 2021 9:16 PM

The uberlords want to shut him up.
That´s why:

Robin Westenra-Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on pathogenic priming
https://soundcloud.com/robin-westenra/app-recording-20210206-0948

sandy
sandy
Feb 14, 2021 9:15 PM

Just as a side note on the current censorship tool called “fact-checking”, here is what i wrote today in FaceBrick after receiving notice one of my posts included “partly false information”.

After receiving the following notification that supposedly my post included “partly false information”, i checked the sources listed as ” the International Fact-Checking Network”. This “network” is a subsidiary of Poynter Institute and funded by the usual long list of corporate criminals protecting their vested interests including the CIA’s National Endowment for Democracy and Voice of America, the foreign propaganda arm of the US government. Fact-checkers… or controllers of “facts”… BUSTED!!!

https://www.poynter.org/major-funders/

Mark R. Elsis
Mark R. Elsis
Feb 14, 2021 8:54 PM

The Day The United States Died (18 Pages)
June 6, 1968
by Mark R. Elsis
https://earthnewspaper.com/thedaytheunitedstatesdied

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 14, 2021 8:30 PM

I feel like someone broke in and swabbed me while I was asleep. Amandha Vollmer says she sometimes gets the symptoms from her clients coz she is sensitive and picks them up. Maybe that is what happened. These ‘tests’s are not tests but a weapon. They are not allowed.
https://twitter.com/Jen70717630/status/1357625563125579776

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 14, 2021 9:14 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

I was wondering if the swabs are like, related to EMF absorption earlier today.

But yeah, I refuse them too. They can’t justify it because everything they suggest is fraudulent.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 15, 2021 1:20 AM
Reply to  Qafsiel

The swabs are made of nanomaterial according to spacebusters.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 14, 2021 7:54 PM

My definition of an old school journalist is one who’s smart enough to KNOW that he’s lying. Anyway, here’s some Old Skool worth remembering:

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 14, 2021 7:41 PM

Interesting presentation. Vaccine, virus, weapon …

Qafsiel
Qafsiel
Feb 14, 2021 7:51 PM
Reply to  Jacques

If you don’t mind, if you summarize that, is it different to what’s been suggested (fake virus used to demonize your body which is then used to peddle the trojan weapon, the “vaccine”)?

Oh btw, since I may as well add it to this post. Researcher, if you happen to see this, I replied in that other article, regarding the piezoelectricity, coronal effects, etc.

niko
niko
Feb 14, 2021 7:25 PM

Leftish pundits like Hedges have gone up to the “forbidden gate with the sign that says – ‘This far and no further'”, only they show no sign of jumping over it because they’re too busy guarding it as well.

Tilling
Tilling
Feb 14, 2021 8:29 PM
Reply to  niko

Hedges pushed global warming, the CIA’s next big project, that is why he is allowed to discuss American empire.