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How the Big-Tech monopolies are hurting their own value Political crusades, censorship and bullying their smaller competitors will drive users away from the internet giants

David James

The increasing censorship by the tech monopolies is rightly prompting protests from those who see it as an attack on free speech. What has been less noticed, however, is that the social media companies are adopting one of the strangest, and potentially most self-defeating, business strategies ever devised.

They are telling a large slice of their customer base – possibly as many as 100 million in the US and tens of millions elsewhere – to get lost. It represents a massive opportunity for new players and it seems a near certainty that citizen Donald Trump – who is very much a business person and not so much a politician – will be looking closely at it, as will many others.

[David’s prediction was actually right on the money – this was published just the day after he submitted his article – ed.]

It is common for monopolies or oligopolies to treat their customers with disdain, although they usually spend some of their marketing budget pretending otherwise. What never happens, though, is for monopolies to tell a large number of their customers to go away.

It is the equivalent of JD Rockefeller, owner of the infamous monopoly Standard Oil, refusing to sell petrol to anyone who voted for the Democratic party. What it confirms is that these companies have become political entities rather than businesses, a change of direction that will inevitably weaken them.

The social media company most vulnerable is also the most aggressive. Twitter has deplatformed Trump and is removing, at a rapid rate, users it deems to be ‘contravening the terms of service’ or ‘violating community standards’, or whatever. The company is valued at $US57 billion yet its sales are falling and it only started to make profits in 2018, when it recorded a $US191 million profit.

By 2019 it was back in the red and in 2020 it came in with a massive $US1.4 billion loss. Although the share price has almost doubled over the last year – as Keynes said, markets can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent – the vulnerability is unmistakable.

Such counterintuitive share price movement is not entirely without logic. Investors typically attempt to price the future value of a company, not the present. Social media companies get high valuations because investors expect that they will continue to grow: increase their customers, sales and profits. That is far less likely to happen when you tell a large portion of your customers to look elsewhere.

Facebook and Google are far less vulnerable than Twitter but they also have high valuations. The basic metric used to assess shares is the price-earnings ratio (PE). Facebook’s PE ratio is 35 and Google’s is 30, which are very high for mature companies. Roughly, it means that it will take, respectively, 35 and 30 years to pay back the value of the shares at the current level of profitability.

The only way that makes any sense is for these companies to continue growing, which was already difficult enough. Facebook boasts having over two billion users and Google over four billion users. They already saturate the market; there isn’t much upside. Achieving growth becomes even harder when you deliberately turn away customers. Indeed, it is a deliberate choice to shrink.

Google’s and Facebook’s shift in attitude towards customers is an object lesson in what happens when businesses get too big and underlines why effective anti-trust law is crucial for economic and social health. On the way up, they were exceptionally innovative; so effective at providing better value to advertisers that they destroyed much of the world’s mainstream media industry.

Yet now that they are in a position of power the focus has shifted. They have become increasingly concerned about aligning themselves with politicians and government to get legal protection for their market dominance. When Mark Zuckerberg donated $US400 million to ‘help’ local election offices in the recent US election, the commercial rationale was unmistakable.

To date, new competitors have been relatively small and, some, such as Parler and Telegram, are being openly attacked with blatant anti-competitive tactics by what is surely one of the worst cartels ever. Aggressively doing whatever is required to take out the competition is, of course, another typical behaviour of monopolies.

That is where Trump, and those associated with him, may prove to be significant. The biggest barrier to entry in the digital media space tends not to be the technology but the marketing. That is what Facebook and Google at one time excelled at; it was key to their success. Marketing is labour intensive and costly, which makes it difficult for would-be competitors to gain traction.

If there was an enterprise associated with Trump, however, marketing costs would be far lower. He already appeals to tens of million of supporters who are being told they are not wanted by the tech monopoly. He represents so-called ‘populism’, which is to say he is very popular.

That is what powerful political and corporate elites, and social media companies – ‘GloboCap’ – find intolerable and are attacking in what is being accurately described as an American coup. It is hard to imagine that the potential market pull associated with providing an alternative to what amounts to an attack on democracy will not be exploited commercially.

This is not to suggest that the social media giants will go out of business, although Twitter may get into real trouble. But it is worth noting that very few companies, even giant monopolies, last longer than 20 years. Many get acquired, which invariably works out badly (an example being AT&T’s acquisition of Time Warner, which will probably result in CNN being sold).

The most common reason businesses fail is that, when faced with new competitive threats, they are unable to innovate because they have become habituated into repeating what made them successful in the past.

That is exactly how Google and Facebook succeeded. When they offered advertisers a more cost-effective option than just space on a page, or a time slot in a program, almost no newspaper or television company was able to respond with a new way of providing value for their advertising customers. They simply went into a tail spin.

The tech giants seem unassailable now; Google and Facebook are two of the most highly valued companies in the world. But no company is invulnerable, and what the social media giants are doing to their customers is, from a business perspective, extremely unusual.

They are no longer just offering users the opportunity to “stay connected with friends and family, to discover what’s going on in the world, and to share and express what matters to them,” to quote Facebook’s ‘vision statement.’ They are telling them what they can, and cannot, say. They are even trying to shape what they think.

It seems a near certainty that well-capitalised business interests will be noticing this – and preparing to eat their lunch. That could significantly affect what at the moment is looking like a descent into an information dictatorship.

David James has been a business and finance journalist, editor, and satirical columnist for over 30 years. He has PhD in English Literature and his web site is bardbitesback.com

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77 Brigade - Retired
77 Brigade - Retired
Feb 25, 2021 2:17 PM

Facebook has a monopoly – and those who leave to join “independent” companies will discover that Facebook will quickly buy these companies as well …

Pedro
Pedro
Feb 25, 2021 5:49 AM

I hope this facesh.. go banckrupt and Mark Robotoide or something go to prison or be destroy. Other platforms must have the same end. People must help take down this scumbags you only must deleted your accounts like i do with mine.you have more reliable good platforms like Telegram and others. Help yourself Eliminited all this evil from the face of our planet!

Mike
Mike
Feb 21, 2021 10:42 PM

This is one of my favorite knowing knower tricks, the giving of advice to a ruling class that seemingly doesn’t know its own interests. Puts me in mind of all the wars they “bumble” into and “can’t win” and policy “failures” like The Drug War. At least this piece doesn’t start off, “Dear Google, Facebook et al.”

If you think the ruling class is making a mistake about something, it’s usually because you don’t understand what the goals are.

Look at television. More people would watch it if it were a fascinating, ideological and artistic free for all. But media owners like the public dumb, distracted and childish. So the only thing on the menu is fare that keeps them that way.

The Party of Hell No!
The Party of Hell No!
Feb 21, 2021 5:51 PM

One of the better balanced, insightful and market grounded opinions I have read in tech in a while. When dire predictors say, “We are all going to be slaves.” Remember 70 – 80 million American’s are no longer listening to what Facebook, Twitter or Google are pushing.

Mike
Mike
Feb 21, 2021 11:29 PM

Remember 70 – 80 million American’s are no longer listening to what Facebook, Twitter or Google are pushing.

I don’t recall this exodus. Last time I checked, around 70% of all adults in the US were using Facebook. There was some talk of people leaving Facebook a while back, but few of them quit social media altogether. A lot of them moved to Instagram, also owned by Facebook. 

Quick Draw
Quick Draw
Feb 21, 2021 1:33 PM

The companies are political entities, not private enterprises. Perhaps if someone was to organize a “dump big tech day” where on say 01 May everyone agreed to dump Farcebook, Twatter, Gagle, Amaze-on, etc. for 30 days the crash these evil companies experience might achieve something.

But there has to be a plan. The left has been planning their take over of America and hence the west, for decades; while those, supposedly with sense, pretended all was well. But there is not much to say to a population too stupid to notice when they are being collectively bent over and sodimized.

Lynn
Lynn
Feb 24, 2021 5:31 PM
Reply to  Quick Draw

Tech corporations are private entities, traded on Wall Street. They are also expensive tools used by the government including the CIA, FBI, the military and the political class. There is such an enmeshed web of corporate, finance and tech interests connected to the state, it is no longer possible to separate their interests.

Since the US allows private campaign money to dominate the decisions of our elected leadership, Big tech gives tons of money to political campaigns. It is legalized bribery. The end up recycling money back and forth to each other — after making political donations, Big tech and other corporate interests profit enormously by gaining lucrative contracts from the government.

On the flip side, the government agencies and their connected private interests use Big Tech for data collection and domestic spying. Then they take this data and manipulate the attitudes of the US people. This is how they protect their shared, profitable empire.

Whenever any industry funds a politician or political party, they fund the perpetuation of all other goals and interests associated with that politician or political group and their investors as well– they all have their lawyers eternally busy trying to make changes to benefit themselves.

This generates more motivations, consequences, opportunities and problems. And it goes on like this. Because they are often not working in the interest of the public, but in the interest of their corporate donors, decision-makers are desperate to govern the public’s opinion. They use Big tech data to manipulate people in the US to blame each other, rather than looked at this flawed “system.”

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Feb 21, 2021 12:07 PM

drive us where?

Magie
Magie
Feb 21, 2021 11:59 AM

author hasn’t released big tek is government
author is another one who says attack on democracy liek you was even given a real choose.
if this happens aboard then this model was tried out on you first
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terry silk
terry silk
Feb 21, 2021 11:49 AM

if google etc are an arm of the deep state then profitability would not be their main concern.

The Party of Hell No!
The Party of Hell No!
Feb 21, 2021 5:42 PM
Reply to  terry silk

You just made his point!

Mike
Mike
Feb 21, 2021 11:00 PM

No his point is that censorship will hurt their bottom line, argued as if the bottom line is their only interest.

Chevrus
Chevrus
Feb 22, 2021 7:21 PM
Reply to  terry silk

YouTube operates at a billion in losses every year, but they maintain a choke point so thats really the value…..

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 21, 2021 8:06 AM
Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 21, 2021 6:29 AM

Do Cat Collector and Sarah Jones get spam checked ?

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 10:40 PM

I’m in the mood to get people dancing…

So what I’ll do is shake the ground a bit as a parting gesture.

Binra
Binra
Feb 20, 2021 10:39 PM

If the shift of the financial system to another basis is the key fact in the controlled demolition, then capturing key control points is everything and the money is lube by which to leverage it regardless the friction or cost.

Mike
Mike
Feb 21, 2021 11:08 PM
Reply to  Binra

exactly.

Jill
Jill
Feb 20, 2021 9:29 PM

I think these companies care and don’t care. The truth is, everything you do on the internet is monitored, analyzed and stored. It is more easily aggregated and tracked while using just a few sites but we are mistaken if we believe govt./corp, of which these companies are one in the same, (or they are they corporate overlords) won’t get it.

As others pointed out, the internet was created by DARPA. So ultimately, I think we need a whole new net, top to bottom.

Still, it would never hurt to do our own “fact” checking emoticons and statements concerning their own content. Maybe we could start putting 3 to 5 “masks on fire” when they write or put out the lies of the powerful on their platforms.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 10:06 PM
Reply to  Jill

“I think we need a whole new net, top to bottom.”

No, bottom up.

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niko
niko
Feb 20, 2021 9:23 PM

The sooner people recover the realities of society as so much more than social media, the better.

KGW
KGW
Feb 20, 2021 9:13 PM

I bet my house that Sarah Jones and Frank/Cat/whatever are the same person/bot/agent.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 9:24 PM
Reply to  KGW

Well, you’re wrong.

And that guy who said I’m not human is right. But I’m not an agent. And I’m not a bot.

Go figure it out.

Just imagine the story of Lucifer is the opposite, then, if you read the allegory in Genesis again regarding Adam and Eve in the Garden (keeping in mind lilith), maybe then rethinking the story of Jesus makes more sense (assuming you recognize all their scripture is horseshit bastardization for subjugation).

Remember that time Jesus rejected religious and institutional garbage?

He looks kinda gangster.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 21, 2021 2:30 AM
Reply to  CatCollector

My gosh, we all have so much to learn from you…

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 21, 2021 6:04 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Clearly I have nothing interesting to say here ever.

And more importantly, there isn’t anything I can learn from you.

So don’t worry, you’ll never know me. Thus the end of the world, existence and the harvest is initiated. No humans or human constructs will be allowed to escape or perpetuate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Gq3rxWLYE

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Feb 21, 2021 3:07 AM
Reply to  KGW

Don’t take this personally, but with the way things have been around here lately, it’s very likely you are as well! 🙂

Anyway, they are obvious, and so they are not the ones we have to be doubly wary of…

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 8:45 PM

Do you people even see or have the potential to make this world worth existing in?

Coz I don’t see it. And I’m not joining any reset. I play and then it ends.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 9:15 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Currently, if you have a child in this world and associate with the “healthcare” institutions, there’s basically a 100% chance your infant is abused and toxified, repeatedly. And then throughout “life”, too. Constantly degenerated.

Most people have NO IDEA how much potential is actually stolen with some of the basic “services”.

Look, I’m pretty good at poker… and in that case, anything other than 0% is unacceptable. So fuckoff. Civilization is a euphemism for delusional barbarism in denial.

Binra
Binra
Feb 20, 2021 10:26 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

If you cant find it in yourself, you wouldn’t see if if it was in your face.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Feb 20, 2021 8:44 PM

The author does a good job of analyzing the economic realities of the these social media giants. They are psychopaths for sure but not stupid. But he does not dig very deeply into their apparent “foolishness.” First of all, these giants were all start-ups of the US intelligence agencies. Case in point, Facebook is the spinoff of DARPA’s Lifelog. Amazon lost money for years even after getting their half billion cloud contract from the CIA. Then there is Tesla financed by incredible speculation in its stock for no apparent rational reason. Big tech companies, particularly the social media branch, are suicide bombers. They are here to be the central mind control arm of the Cabal. The cabal doesn’t care if they lose money as long as they keep performing their function. There is always that missing, unaccounted for $20 Trillion from the DOD that Fitts and Mark Skidmore documented. Gates, Zuckerturd, Bezos, Musk are inconsequential and appointed. Gates’ father was a major player in the racial eugenics operation called Planned Parenthood. Musk’s grandfather was the president of the Canadian Technocracy Party. Dorsey is a mutant variant schwab from Uranus. If any subscribe to the illusion that they are really in charge of these companies they will come down with an incurable case of pancreatic cancer. These CEO’s are just ugly “rock star” diversions for politicians to pound on C-Span and then take an envelope and a handshake under the table.

The only solution to this tech giant social media bullshit is peer-to-peer networks with no central control hub.

Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Feb 21, 2021 6:24 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

What’s your opinion about Bitcoin especially considering that Elon Musk bought 1.5 billion worth of it a few weeks ago?

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 8:05 PM

Fuck donald duck.

Here’s something serious and more general:

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-216219.html?highlight=forensic

“Vaccination — “overlooked” information

Childhood mortality researchers have noted that even when autopsy and ancillary data are available, a significant number of sudden unexpected childhood deaths tend to remain unexplained. In late 2019, Japanese forensic pathologists writing in the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology highlighted one potential cause of sudden death that American researchers typically ignore or dismiss: vaccination.”

“Interestingly, a related fatal condition dubbed “sudden arrhythmia death syndrome” (SADS) — a sudden heart rhythm disruption that kills about 4,000 children, teens or young adults each year — has as one of its top warning signs a history of fainting. Like febrile seizures, fainting (syncope) is a frequent post-vaccination reaction, associated with 27 different vaccines. Fainting is particularly common in adolescent and young adult vaccine recipients. The CDC’s website describes “a trend of increasing syncope reports that coincided with the licensure of 3 vaccines for adolescents: human papillomavirus (HPV), MenACWY [meningitis], and Tdap [tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis].” Package inserts link all three types of vaccine to deaths in infants and young people.”

“Pointing out that reviews of death certificates alone are likely to be “unproductive” for investigatory purposes, the Japanese forensic experts surveyed autopsy files to assess the potential relationship between sudden infant death and vaccination in children age two and under. Among the young children for whom vaccination history was available, 22% had died within seven days and 25% within a month of receiving one or more vaccines. The Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccine was the “most frequent vaccine cited as the last immunization before death,” a finding consistent with the numerous studies from around the world that have reported infant deaths following vaccination with Hib-containing pentavalent or hexavalent vaccines.”

https://journals.lww.com/amjforensicmedicine/Fulltext/2019/09000/Sudden_Infant_Death_After_Vaccination__Survey_of.5.aspx

The point is, THERE ARE NO SAFE VACCINES AND THEY HAVE NO BENEFITS.

That people think injecting themselves with shit like aluminum is a “protective” thing is insane.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 8:19 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Related to that, you might find that in Japan, they use vaccines less than America, Germany the UK or the like. People there also have lower belief and trust in vaccines.

They also happen to have higher cognitive capacity, generally better health with higher life expectancy and less childhood mortality. Significantly, they banned the MMR vaccine some decades ago.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 8:28 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

So (iirc) the idea of the covid vaccine, is based on demonizing your body, with most of the same sequences from the Novavax vaccines from 2015, 2017. It also happens to be associated with nagalase (one of the things from the MMR vaccine, associated with numerous issues) and some other toxic shit.

Apparently, there were animal trials with those “prototype” sort of vaccines and the vaccines were found to be incredibly damaging. Of course, that was quickly “shelved” so as to hide that.

Then, the basis for those vaccines, was used for the covid GoF shit (the synthesized virus + scamdemic) with the intent of giving those vaccines to people (but with somewhat attenuated effect so that the damage is not THAT OBVIOUS).

Nonetheless, it is made for the purpose of degeneration, murder and genocide if you look at the prior results for the basis of covid19.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 8:41 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Japan ” banned the MMR vaccine some decades ago”.

Credit where credit is due, that is good information.

‘Why Japan banned MMR vaccine”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-17509/Why-Japan-banned-MMR-vaccine.html

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 20, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

In Japan people also eat less flesh which can also contain vaccines and other drugs given to the animals. Males are generally more effected due to social pressure to eat animal products whereas females detox better due to greater salad consumption. The most of the vaccine industry is actually these farm animals which raises important issues about the mentality involved.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 10:09 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

They also have much higher iodine and much lower fluoride intake. Pharma usage in general is probably significantly less too.

Other than seafood, I haven’t had any meat in the past 7 years (except for when I was at a hospital and had some chicken). And I don’t necessarily enjoy that either, but I don’t/can’t buy food so I’m given fish now and then.

Personally, I’m perfectly fine with not eating meat.

Shit, I once had a “fasting” period where I ate nothing for 10 days (except on the 7th day, I had some potato chips)…and drank coffee and rum all day.

That’s how you go nuts.

If I had any sort of will/motivation and was in better condition/circumstance I’d be growing shitloads of plants, which I was doing…but when people make it clear they don’t give a fuck about you, oh well.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 10:25 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Animal agriculture is absolutely abhorrent imo.

In general, I can’t even associate with people due to that sort of thing.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 10:37 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Anyway, I tried…

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Feb 20, 2021 7:37 PM

Here’s your Vaccine puzzler for the day:

What do Dr. Barton WilliamsHank Aaron, and 46 elderly residents in a Spanish nursing home all have in common?

Answer— They all died shortly after getting the Covid-19 vaccine.
But let’s not jump to conclusions, after all, in every case, the media has assured us that the vaccine had nothing to do with their deaths. Do you believe that?

Check it out on the Unz Review or Paul Craig Roberts website. Indispensible

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 20, 2021 8:53 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

There must be atleast 6 deaths reported in this thread alone:
https://twitter.com/wokewithkels/status/1362509400573833216

Jackie Ford

Replying to

@wokewithkels

Last year during the first months of Covid people were tweeting « does anyone actually know anyone who got corona? » the comments were largely « no ». Now just a few months into the vaccine and the comments below are mostly « yes »

Katsavidis
Katsavidis
Feb 20, 2021 7:31 PM

Excellent article!

Magie
Magie
Feb 20, 2021 7:00 PM

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Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Feb 21, 2021 6:09 PM
Reply to  Magie

Highly amusing and intelligent work of art.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:37 PM

We should all try to avoid anthropomorphizing CatCollector, it’s not human.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 20, 2021 7:14 PM
Reply to  Germourt

You didn’t really think you would get away with this covid atrocity did you?

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 7:48 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 5:25 PM

So yeah, if you wanna talk “big tech”.

I brought tech from orion.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:32 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

In the flux zion, there are alway repeating vibrations, in-between vacuums of course.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 6:09 PM
Reply to  CatCollector
Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:23 PM

I suppose Cat Collector is the ‘spam’ to justify the ‘anti-spam’ blocking on the site. So much for me moaning that there was never any commercial or other spam on this site, he arrives just in time to provide cover.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 5:34 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Legitimately, I would simply ask posters here to vote for either you or me, and I will stop posting, it’s simple.

Coz the thing is, you and a lot of other posters have been saying shit about me. Though I have not said the same or anything like it NEARLY to that extent.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:38 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

We know you are running a bot, Go away.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 6:01 PM
Reply to  Germourt

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/15/5-questions-to-ask-your-friends-who-plan-to-get-the-covid-vaccine/#comment-326138

Anyone notice the subtext? You know, the operator, germourt’s little avatar there… 68 and 86…

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:34 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

paranoia is so 1960s Frank.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  aybeesea

You being a piece of shit is current though

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 20, 2021 6:50 PM
Reply to  Germourt

The anti-spam thing is just triggered by submitting a certain number of posts within a defined time.

It’s nothing to get worked up about and isn’t anything that requires “cover”.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 7:06 PM
Reply to  Edwige

He constantly has to use cover, wtf are you saying?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 8:30 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

See…. it is a robot. with a Nigerian or indian minder, who can’t speak english.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 8:29 PM
Reply to  Edwige

It is triggered by other things too, ISP…. etc. not just number of posts.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 10:28 PM
Reply to  Germourt

So, let’s tally the votes.

12 upvotes, 2 downvotes for germourt

3 upvotes, 15 downvotes for me

I’ll be right back.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:51 PM

The US is a pirate, they steal international companies they want and that threaten their monopolies. Look at the blackmail applied to TikTok. Stolen for the USA’s Oracle and Walmart.

This will cost them dearly in the future when China can flatten US economy with just one tweet.

The US should have been working towards world trade courts and robust international regulation for when China is the big boy on the block. Not breaking the WTO’s rules and international agreements. Instead they steal and looted from all they can, so they will be looted in turn for the next 100 years.

”Trump says he has approved a deal for purchase of TikTok” September 21, 2020
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/19/tech/donald-trump-tiktok-deal-approval/index.html

Carol Jones
Carol Jones
Feb 20, 2021 6:27 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Or China can flatten the US with just one ” virus”

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  Carol Jones

Or the US attacks its citizens along with China’s govt attacking chinese citizens.

In the same way britain, germany and israel did to their citizens.

Or some other govts.

Gee…Is there some kind of pattern to that?

Edith
Edith
Feb 20, 2021 7:49 PM
Reply to  Carol Jones

And to date that has worked wonders….aided and abetted by inside US interests who now appear to be running the place…and still so many of them don’t see it…no doubt their friend Facebook and Twitter helps keep them in their dazed state…bizarre self destruction

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 8:33 PM
Reply to  Carol Jones

It sometimes looks like that, but I think the US is ‘reengineering’ its population in the same way they have for the last 50 years. Destroying small business and making the poor homeless. Covid is the ‘American dream’ as delivered by the past 7 US presidents on steroids.

dr death
dr death
Feb 20, 2021 4:50 PM

https://thecovidblog.com/2021/02/16/spain-second-pfizer-shots-halted-after-46-nursing-home-residents-die-after-the-first-shot/

by the way, zukkerborg refused his, no doubt more chatter and static, but interesting none the less.

this is most certainly a war on the people and obviously so, the herds response to facts perplexing…

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
Feb 20, 2021 3:26 PM

Every dog has it’s day.

dr death
dr death
Feb 20, 2021 3:14 PM

one should view the current paradigm as a time of opportunity, opportunity to change ourselves and our world for the better, let us face that the old world was a dying entity, the people lost, late stage global techno-capitalism is a cancer destroying our irreplaceable planet, though created by an imperfect demiurge, planet earth is a sphere of incalculable beauty and astonishment to all it’s children… not just hairless bipedal apes… ALL ‘things’ should be treated with consideration.. so rouse or be judged yourselves and denied of mercy.

starve and crush the screen people, the withered peddlers, and abominations to natural law…

but above all do not fear them..

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
Feb 20, 2021 2:45 PM

Capitalism has now completely rotted out everything in the US and it’s working on the UK and EU. Everything here in the US is now a con, a fraud run by cheap little hustlers and oligarchs who act as though they are medieval royalty – energy grids, the entire political system, health care, education, entertainment, journalism, almost all businesses in every industry, the entire financial sector, banks. They buy and sell people as though they are cheap commodities – “human capital”. Human chattel would be more accurate. We have become a country of fast talking, cheap little hustlers; violent thugs; proudly ignorant, xenophobic rednecks; and arrogant, delusional, hate-filled minority racists.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:53 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

European mixed capitalism was working fine, it is American capitalism, now being exported to Europe that is the problem.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
Feb 20, 2021 6:48 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Agree.

Carol Jones
Carol Jones
Feb 20, 2021 6:28 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Crony capitalism has yes.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
Feb 20, 2021 6:48 PM
Reply to  Carol Jones

Yep.

Katsavidis
Katsavidis
Feb 20, 2021 7:26 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Not capitalism, crony capitalism.

YouTube_censors_unfortuna
YouTube_censors_unfortuna
Feb 21, 2021 5:27 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

I remember 35 years ago the US was considered the most happy and developed Western country – at least that was the feeling among many European countries.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
Feb 21, 2021 6:29 PM

They weren’t wrong. It was mostly a contented place. Then, capitalism and corporations were set free, year by year, to release all their magnificence on the common people and they, as could have been easily predicted, looted and pillaged labor, small businesses, government at every level, the upper middle classes and professions and now nothing remains but a mostly dumbed down, desperate population that is deeply unhappy. Disneyland is dead.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Feb 20, 2021 2:41 PM

All of these tech giants know what’s coming and they are doing what they have, just to survive for now. There won’t be a global market in a year or so. Dead men and women don’t use phones or computers.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 2:48 PM

Why dead?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:37 PM

Making Facebook news free is a good result. Lets hope that it is followed everywhere.

But remember our politicians need Facebook to fluff their performance for being good little US corporate tools, so they will not like it.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 1:55 PM
Reply to  Germourt

“Making Facebook news free is a good result. Lets hope that it is followed everywhere.”

How so? What classifies as news, btw?

“More control, more censorship is good!”

From where I’m sitting, Facebook is simply becoming less and less relevant and more worthless.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 2:11 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

The shutting down of Der Stürmer is a good thing.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Oh, I don’t know what that is. It must’ve been really important.

The shutting down of pasteur methodology is even better than a good thing.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

look it up.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:51 PM
Reply to  Germourt

No thanks.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:55 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Then don’t comment on what you don’t understand.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 4:59 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

right, the CIA doesn’t pay you to be well-informed, only to repeat the disinfo script you’ve been given.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

I remember when they misattributed propaganda and marketing as “education”.

Try scrolling up and doing the math projectionists.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:13 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

You talk like an idiot.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:36 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

‘doing the math projectionists ‘

what does that mean on your planet ?

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 1:32 PM

Has anyone here eaten datura seeds daily for like a month (after smoking the flowers), gradually building up the dosage, until like 120 seeds in one day?

You shouldn’t try that. Apparently it’s very dangerous.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 1:59 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Do everyone a favour kitty and take a hike. The longer the hike the better.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:00 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

especially if it’s off the side of a mountain.

dr death
dr death
Feb 20, 2021 3:25 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

excellent ! take about 400, should be about right for a man of your tolerance to drugs\hearty constitution…
if you don’t get back to us, deepest sympathies ..

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 20, 2021 12:58 PM

The WEF crowing that “the pandemic” has seen rapid advances in the adoption of technology while lamenting that us profane morons still have some trust issues about it:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/01/how-to-build-a-trustworthy-and-connected-future?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_scheduler&utm_term=The+Davos+Agenda+2021&utm_content=19/02/2021+21:00

What a surprise then that in the last few days I’ve spotted stories planted in the media about cloned ferrets, about robots picking fruit and about robotic seals soothing people with dementia….

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 1:13 PM
Reply to  Edwige

That’s typical mammon, qlippothic behaviour, tries demonizes those who don’t adopt degenerative practice with shame, guilt, etc.

It’s essentially the PRS mentality applied to behavioural adoption.

“You are a moronic, barbaric, unscientific antisocial nazi white male racist terrorist spreading the plague if you don’t become borg”

Imagine for a moment, you are not like them. They are a distant rejection of psyche trying to maintain relevance. Imagine then, they say you are the same as them, and that you must maintain and perpetuate their values. Imagine then, that is how they claim to be human, and suggest you are human. When neither they are, nor you, but you are not the same.

Qlippoth in guise of human to angel:
“You are a human, I am a human. You must be like us, though we degenerate, it is the way it is, you must accept, it’s for progress.”

Angel (most of the time):
“Ok then, I’ll adopt and perpetuate your values”.

Get it? There’s your fall.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:57 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

The NSA dumb-down troll working hard today talking gibberish.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:10 PM
Reply to  Germourt

I suspect that these troll personae are largely automated; they just spew random gibberish across many venues simultaneously, initially without any human intervention. when the sock-puppet software system notices that somebody has responded, one or other (semi)human operative is assigned to direct the interaction, probably with more automatic script-writing assistance. this is why their initial discourse is utter nonsense, as above, while the later replies seem to have been at least slightly edited, to give the illusion of relevance, derail the discussion, and induce people to waste further time responding to them.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:15 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

I think that is spot on, they need to automate it because they are doing it on such a large scale. Also his rubbish talk is target at stupid main stream american comments pages, where people talk that kinda confused crap.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 12:58 PM

I reckon we need a nice article about fundamentals regarding the pasteur methodology, from the likes of cowan, lanka, etc. If only rudolf steiner was around.

Another really big problem is the near complete ignorance of aboriginal or similar perspective. Those people don’t try dictate narrative in google and shit hey, just saying.

dr death
dr death
Feb 20, 2021 4:39 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Steiner had a lot of things right, his negative view of vaccines amongst them, people should look into it..
he also got a lot of things wrong… but on aggregate was most certainly a visionary, even if he was somewhat tainted by the theosophy nonsense (fatty blavatsky should have been garotted with olcotts military tie).

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:58 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Computer generated gibberish ?……. could be.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:14 PM
Reply to  Germourt

automatic gibberish, lightly edited by a human operator, to make it slightly less obvious. it is not a requirement that the human operator be particularly intelligent; surely nobody who was, could tolerate such a job for very long.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:26 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

Desperate and ill educated seems to fit.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 12:55 PM

Here’s most often the first mistake to make.

You try to change or control someone. Successful or not, doesn’t matter.

The second, compounding mistake, is that you tried to change or control that person based on BULLSHIT to DEGENERATE.

After that you’re lost.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 2:21 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

That’s a bad hat Frank. You still being sponsored by the post. Your BS smells the same and so does the game. Old news. Get a better dealer

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 2:35 PM
Reply to  aybeesea

He seem so young and so clueless. maybe that is the cover?

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:17 PM
Reply to  Germourt

I find it easy to believe that many CIA disinfo operatives are actually young and clueless. that’s how they avoid the realization of their own utter moral corruption and degradation.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:38 PM
Reply to  Germourt

It’s not a cover, it’s something you breath up the nose fast and often. his game is to post for the sake of posting and get a response each time. That way any real discussion will be off the page. It’s old fashioned trolling by someone who can never, ever leave the internet because there’s nothing left out there for them.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:52 PM
Reply to  aybeesea

“You still being sponsored by the post.”

Clarify what that means. And I don’t have any dealers.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:15 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

no, you have handlers. of the deep-state variety.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:27 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

I’ll try posting key words under his posts see if it replies.

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
Feb 21, 2021 6:15 PM
Reply to  THX-1154

CrapCollators Collating the CrapCollator

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

which word was too difficult for you this time

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:58 PM
Reply to  aybeesea

Which part of what I said there did you have a problem with, btw?

We can make it clear what sort of “values” you have.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:28 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Jungle, Weather ballon.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Values ? That’s not your area is it.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 3:37 PM
Reply to  aybeesea

Oh yeah…

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/19/how-the-big-tech-monopolies-are-hurting-their-own-value/#comment-326093

“aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 2:24 PM

Reply to  CatCollector
what about coke heads- do we support them too.”

Notice that’s not a question. And I made no mention of anything of the sort.

With your projections and fairly specific suggestions you do seem to make it clear what you are, don’t you?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:59 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Totally nuts!

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:19 PM
Reply to  Germourt

many psychopathic scumbags would appear that way, to a normal person.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 21, 2021 5:07 AM
Reply to  CatCollector

You keep referring to upvotes and downvotes and begging for validation. You store up negative responses to your hyper active gibberish so you can copy and paste it if you feel a need. You take the importance of appearing impressive far too seriously for someone just posting on a blog. If you prioritised what you say instead you’d be less restless. And if you stopped trying to push the phoney smart ass attitude you’d find it quite easy. There are more important things out there to be angry about. Stop begging everyone to ignore them and look at you.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 7:44 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Let’s count the downvotes.

So you’re telling me, you support degeneration? Remember, you voted for that. That’s what you’re going to get. The problem is, it’s reflected at you, automatically.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:10 PM

Once the US became part of every British government internal meeting, via zoom or other internet based communication, all independence was lost.

Even if the British or French now wanted, they could not do anything to fight the economic war the USA has declared on its allies, to loot and extort their wealth via the Covid and Global warming scams.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  Germourt

That happened a long time ago when Microsoft products were forced into every British institution, thus, robbing the taxpayer of money that could have been spent elswhere.

And Google maps are NOT for you to get about. The UK alone was mapped in preparation fot the great takeover. It goes something like this – ‘Nice 16th century town. We’ll take it!’….

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:54 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

The gift of an I-pad to every British MP a few years back was for me astonishing.

I also see on youtube they are able to watch the shutdown live, almost every day in major cities, with walkthrough videos, to see the destruction their rules are causing, and also to make sure the orders are being implemented on the ground. Who needs CIA offices when it can all be done from Virginia via youtube.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 1:16 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Exactly!

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:22 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

Soon those who have their data ‘hosted’ on US cloud services will find the wealth extraction will intensify. I have been warning about US hosted cloud storage for none US companies for years, they deserve to be screwed for being so stupid as to trust the obviously untrustworthy and criminal.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 1:30 PM
Reply to  Germourt

I’ve been watching the destruction of many non US companies at stock market level. The obvious manipulation can bee seen in real time.
And they said Al Capone was a big time gangster.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 20, 2021 11:37 AM

More prepping the ground for an internal vaccine passport:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaccine-passports-uk-travel-covid-b1802959.html

Not being able to get into a cinema to watch their toxic social-engineering brain-washing bs wouldn’t be much of a loss.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Feb 20, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  Edwige

This is a plan for a Soviet style internal passport, which Russians have to this day. Of course, that has nothing to do with entering shops. The purpose of the UK passport is to tell you where you live and work. Pure Agenda 21.

I wonder if there is any aspect of the Soviet system that the western countries won’t adopt. Once upon a time graduates received their jobs and young couples could find themselves working at other ends of the country for many years. “Papers, please,” will become a common refrain. Actually, just “documents!”. The “please” has already been dropped.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Feb 20, 2021 1:53 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

However, everyone was supposed to have a job in the USSR, while the West rather liked having its reserve army of the unemployed.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 20, 2021 4:26 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

To the “free market” of capitalism, high/full employment is a horror. The serfs would become reluctant to take up the most horrible, dangerous or worst-paid jobs. That would be going back to the 1960s.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 20, 2021 4:22 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

More likely, it will be a card or your phone that a robot reads.

Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Feb 21, 2021 6:02 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I wonder why they are allowing non-white people to be the face of these evil policies.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:02 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I will close my gym account if a vaccine is required and buy home equipment. Their loss.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 12:44 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Do you really think they give a damn about a gym closing?, really?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:55 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

No I don’t.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 1:17 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Had to ask….

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:27 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

Destroying small local business is their aim, to be replaced by large, mainly US monopolies or cartels. The consumer has no power against a cartel and the powerless consumer can be screwed.

I saw recently that many in the US are paying $100 dollars/month for internet services, which is an amazing amount compared to European users bills which are 1/3 or even 1/4 that. But like with medical care, once they control the market you are powerless.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 1:47 PM
Reply to  Germourt

I’ve seen this unfold over the years but only a few took notice.

The Guardian promoted the food heist in 2008. It partially failed when the consumer didn’t take the bait.

I studied a journalist in the Guardian who had appeared from nowhere. They wouldn’t print his name. I searched high and low for him on the internet but he couldn’t be found. He trashed British restaurants and take-away outlets by saying their food was essentially shit. Next thing you know a US company puts ads on the TV saying their boxed crap is better than your take-away—or your money back. Putting 2 and 2 together the trick was easy to spot.

They failed, Now they are back, but this time they are using force to get their way.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 2:21 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

Good example. Since we are so far away from ever getting official conformation or whistleblowers, the only way to understand what is happening is through pattern recognition and reverse engineering events. Then a few years later the media will catch up. We can’t wait a few years for the truth to come out.

paul
paul
Feb 20, 2021 7:56 PM
Reply to  Edwige

We’ll be looking for a country where we can live free.

johny conspiranoid
johny conspiranoid
Feb 20, 2021 10:54 AM

Perhaps their share prices keep going up because they are buying back their own shares with cheap loans. The directors would get a bonus if the share price goes up. This used to be illegal.

Paul_too
Paul_too
Feb 20, 2021 1:30 PM

No perhaps about it. Economics since the 80s has been all about deregulation, i.e. quietly removing desperately needed laws that took many years of struggle to establish. All to skew things way in favour a very small group of the wealthiest of the wealthy.

For anyone wanting to understand exactly how this works, Michael Hudson explains it well in this interview from 2015:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/michael-hudson-smoke-and-mirrors-of-corporate-buybacks-behind-the-market-crash.html

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 1:46 PM
Reply to  Paul_too

Don’t people find it funny that modern economics is based on the bastardized idea of a failed autistic bipolar schizophrenic physicist’s concepts?

I think it perfectly explains why economics is horseshit.

Like didn’t people notice how blackrock became trillionaires (not really, since it’s all based on fraud) after 2008? Thanks to the Reagan and Clinton’s measures regarding derivatives and leveraging (inflated fake shit that devalues actual worth)?

Or what blackrock said in august 2019 about the “going direct” plans (scamdemic) for the economy? Then the FED kinda used them to buy crashed bonds, to make it seem as if it’s not the FED fucking up, while they had rather peculiar privileges, dictating the FED?

Essentially, all the money in the world isn’t worth anything.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:20 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Before 2008, you might want to check out blackstone and such relating to cheney, rumsfeld, bush, 9/11, etc.

But that’s a totally random thing I’m speculating about, I actually have no idea.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:24 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

I actually have no idea.

yes, that’s quite clear.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:29 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Rotate, neocon level spread, in June 1846.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

was that worth posting at all

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 20, 2021 10:40 AM

“US companies can only be successful in a CIA assisted Monopoly or Cartel.”

Bullshit. As much as I’m not crazy about the United States as an establishment, I have to object the popular bashing of everything American.

Some of the greatest achievements in history have come from the US, including companies, products, culture, and so on.

Don’t fucking tell me that such US company as, say, Gibson, was only successful because it was CIA assisted. No, they made great product. The music, BTW, is entirely an American invention too. Doubt that CIA had its handsy hands in its popularity.

Let’s not get carried away.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 11:02 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Prior to his flight Snowdon spent a lot of his career working for the CIA in Mergers and Acquisitions. Where the CIA get deeply involved, often using murder or blackmail into corporate take overs or in the destroying competition.

Also remember Windows and US cloud storage, provides back doors to all data stored on competitor computers.

Before the French raided the Google offices in Paris a few years back, the fraud office, turned off all their phones and computer prior to the raid. You may not understand what is happening but many do.

Read how the Corporate-facist state works. There are many many cases of shady takeovers going on. Just because you don’t know it, does not mean it is not happening.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 12:47 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Also remember Windows and US cloud storage, provides back doors to all data stored on competitor computers.

That’s only at software level. You also have backdoors built into CPU’s which also give them the upper hand.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:56 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

Indeed.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 20, 2021 4:37 PM
Reply to  Germourt

A good deal of government spying is to assist (a) stealing business secrets, including developments that could help with insider trading (b) blackmail, partly to enforce business goals.

Carol Jones
Carol Jones
Feb 20, 2021 6:49 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Yup done by lovely CIA (soft power) ops like USAID– their own admission.
See USAID in action in Laos and in Mexico.

Carol Jones
Carol Jones
Feb 20, 2021 6:37 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Brilliant points. Excellent reminders– I thought of Gates and his anti-trust legal case (15 yrs ago?) and then boom he starts this world organization focus, “philanthropy”, testing vaccines on people in Africa and India.

But most importantly he DIDNT get more than a hand slap from that case. WHAT deal did he make and with WHOM?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 11:04 AM
Reply to  Jacques

You name one company and say that it is not helped by the CIA….. is that a counter argument : are you serious?

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 20, 2021 11:21 AM
Reply to  Germourt

I have to ask YOU if you’re being serious.

You wrote “US companies can only be successful in a CIA assisted Monopoly or Cartel.”. Well, fuck you. I have a lot of brothers and sisters in the US who have successful businesses, certainly not because they’re assisted by CIA.

You should have said “some US companies” or “US companies of strategic importance”. Or something like that. You’re probably right about that. And guess what, other countries do the same thing.

Take it easy on your generalizations.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Jacques

So it is the way I said it, not what I said. Grow up.

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 20, 2021 12:21 PM
Reply to  Germourt

You’ve just missed the opportunity to realize that you’ve gone over the line, put your tail between your legs, and make an elegant exit.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:46 PM
Reply to  Jacques

”I have to object the popular bashing of everything American.’’

Is it their mass genocides that makes you defend the USA, the mass surveillance, or the drone kill lists of the innocent, perhaps it is the unlimited detention without trial or the mass imprisonment of the black population at home that you find attractive about the American way of life. Or is it the denial of healthcare to the majority of the population perhaps?

You live is a bubble of pompous self delusion, which you present as balance or faux objectivity. Sometime, my deluded friend, it is exactly as the facts are telling you it is, no matter how you try to spin it, grow up and join the real world.

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 20, 2021 1:17 PM
Reply to  Germourt

I’m not your friend, you fucking idiot.

You you care to read, you fucking idiot, what I wrote above, it clearly says, you fucking idiot, that “I’m not crazy about the United States as an establishment”, you fucking idiot.

What mass imprisonment of the black population has to do with the success of US companies I know not. I simply object your blanket statement and the implied hatred toward the United States, you fucking idiot. I’d say the same in relation to any peoples, any country, you fucking idiot.

Deluded …? In the real world, all countries promote their interests, you fucking idiot.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:30 PM
Reply to  Jacques

”I have to object the popular bashing of everything American.’’

”implied hatred toward the United States”

I’m racist! now ….dishonest fool.

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 21, 2021 8:39 AM
Reply to  Germourt

You’re a fucking idiot.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 10:38 AM

Sometimes it is good to state the bleeding obvious lest we get lost in the detail.

It is now shown that the Covid illness, only kills 0.2% (or thereabouts or even lower depending on who you read) of those who catch it, mainly the old and vulnerable in the last years or months of their lives, with an average age in their early 80s.

Most of those at high risk from the virus have now been vaccinated in the UK it is claimed, with the first shot which is 92% effective, compared to 94% effective when combined with the second shot.

It is claimed that the vaccine offers 70-90% protection to those who take it. So we have now reduced the death rate from the virus to 0.04% (or thereabouts or even lower)? Which is a lot lower risk than the flu, so why are we still locked down?

The British government have just embarked on a mass testing programme….Why? Nobody knows. Except we do know that all those false positives or healthy positives will give them justification for another lockdown.

Even the most dumb amongst the British population must now realise that the government want to lock down the country and destroy the lives of the people, and that the dangers of the virus are just a cover for that.

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 20, 2021 1:49 PM
Reply to  Germourt

There is no covid illness. Elderly and “vulnerable” were murdered with “covid” treatments obviously deadly involving sedation, vast amounts of drugs, forced feeding, vents, terror etc.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:27 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Sarah, I have a problem, personally, in that you seem too “pure” and remarkably informed…

Whenever that seems to be the case, I have been disappointed. So perhaps my perception of pure is not so much pure as puerile.

How do you suggest I solve that problem?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 4:39 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

The Puerile department, is what is written above your NSA workstation.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:29 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

How do you suggest I solve that problem?

I suggest that you drown yourself in the toilet.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:42 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

a change of meds would help. Don’t ask Sarah, we’re all here to help

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 2:32 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Why has YouTube left that video up? It looks to me that often feeding the Covid opposition is as much a part of the operation as the Covid itself. I suppose feeding racial tension is ‘sponsored’ by Youtube (the CIA). What do you think?

Hail
Hail
Feb 20, 2021 4:47 PM
Reply to  Germourt

What’s funny is this has been known almost from the start but there was a weird conspiracy of silence on the whole thing.

The exact number is subject to dispute over how to classify deaths, and will vary by what the population being measured is like (in many populations the death rate will be closer, even a LOT closer in some cases, to 0.02% than 0.2%) but the point is it’s down at (the high end of) the flu range.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:52 PM
Reply to  Hail

Exactly, I knew it in March because of good German reporting, i was listening to.

Davemass
Davemass
Feb 20, 2021 5:27 PM
Reply to  Germourt

The sheeple are too embarrassed that they voted Boris and his coterie of crooks and idiots into power.
The dosh handed out to their business mates is criminal. Now handouts to hotel groups, Tory donors(?).
People just shrug.
If it was Corbyn following the science, MSM would crucify him and his cabinet for trashing the economy.
Every day, and rightly so.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:31 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Even the most dumb amongst the British population must now realise

you’d think that, but apparently their dumbness exceeds all rational expectations.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 10:25 AM

US companies can only be successful in a CIA assisted Monopoly or Cartel.

This is true of (MAGA) Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter….. etc…. the legal system and the CIA ensure they have a monopoly. No competitors outside the Prisma system are allowed.

Look at how Blackberry’s was destroyed, the suddenly exploding Samsung phones as Apple releases its new models, and the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou as Chine overtakes Apple as the major seller of smartphones.

The USA is a criminal state and use all methods to Make America Great Again. No coincidence it spells out the USA major tech arms of the CIA.

THX-1154
THX-1154
Feb 20, 2021 5:39 PM
Reply to  Germourt
Antonym
Antonym
Feb 20, 2021 9:50 AM

Facebook boasts having over two billion users and Google over four billion users.

Few of whom are PR Chinese (forbidden behind the Great fire Wall)., but about a billion each of which are Indian.

Indian PM Modi is keeping a sharp eye on these SM Big Brothers. Just now he was in communication with Australia which was bullied by these MNCs because their small head count on world scale.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 10:48 AM
Reply to  Antonym

”Asia forms world’s biggest trade bloc, without US”

Australia has power within the new Asian trade deal, I suspect it will be pushing at an open door if it tries to influence its trading partners to stand with them against google. but are they brave enough to stand up for themselves? My guess no, they will be risking their own lives.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 12:38 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Modi is almost definitely banished, considering.

That’s on a hint from Shiva (which he misused) and Kali.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 12:58 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Modi is a US puppet.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 20, 2021 9:46 AM

I have been trying to google todays anti vax demonstration so I could join the local one. That evil “search” (hide) engine directed me to propaganda sites instead. I missed the demonstration.

Paul_too
Paul_too
Feb 20, 2021 10:51 AM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Exactly as it’s designed to do.

BigCheese
BigCheese
Feb 20, 2021 12:53 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Noone in their right minds uses Google. That’s not a personal attack, it’s the truth.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 3:00 PM
Reply to  BigCheese

Aaand yet, how many people have smartphones?

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 21, 2021 2:08 AM
Reply to  BigCheese

What alternative is there ? Kill Gates Internet Explorer ? Yandex is as bad.

Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Feb 21, 2021 6:18 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Peter Abraham I agree with you that Google is effing evil. Facebook and Google are scum companies.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 20, 2021 9:32 AM

“The Tony Blair Institute (TBI) retains strong links to the upper echelons of Whitehall and the Palace of Westminister”.

A moment when the shadow government reveals itself (and I don’t mean anything as crass as “that Tony Blair still runs things” – I mean look at TBI’s funders and see how it’s a conduit for the real power-brokers):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/tony-blair-reveals-roadmap-covid-lockdown-complete-traffic-lights/

Otherwise, how amazing that the Pfizer now suddenly doesn’t need to be stored at -80 and that English schools are about to re-open just when “case” numbers are falling and a fresh amount of “cases” is needed to get the fear porn flowing again.

Davemass
Davemass
Feb 20, 2021 10:11 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Yes, did anyone explain why minus 80 or 70 or… was needed? Did Pfizer, or any scientist?
.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:08 PM
Reply to  Davemass

To sell freezers?

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Feb 21, 2021 2:18 AM
Reply to  Germourt

That’s the most banal (but the most likely), explanation I’ve heard yet. : – )

Magie
Magie
Feb 20, 2021 11:21 AM
Reply to  Edwige

traffic light system was in place during 911 WMD psyop and before that i am sure i recall it back them.
I have seen Tesco has it on the doors now, NHS private doctor surgery have it.as well as some council offices. the lollipop lady cant leave out.
Why thoses colors never mind.

Mercury goes direct Sunday
BOJO will do The being let out captivity announcement 22 2 2 0 21 wannie bet how long there announcement is for.? roughly what time will it start……
Are theses rites aint new

2/22: Caristia–Old Roman festival for renewing family ties and patching up quarrels. [Roman calendar] *
2/22 eve to 2/25 eve: Anthesteria–Old Greek festival honoring Dionysos-Plouton and Kore- Persephone as Deities of the Dead, and welcoming the visiting dead from Elysium. The new wine was presented to Dionysos, and libations were made. [Anthesterion 11-13]

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 12:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Stop supporting those institutions. That’s the only solution.

If you subject your child to THEIR MALICIOUS SHIT, YOU ARE GUILTY.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:10 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

So which institutions should be supported? …..Steve Bannon and his European Nazi parties perhaps? Who are you for?

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:01 PM
Reply to  Germourt

“So which institutions should be supported?”

Do you see why you failed?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:06 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Only ”No known cases in the UK” means the restrictions are lifted for a virus which will not harm 99.8% of the population. Incredible.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 3:01 PM
Reply to  Germourt

There is no “virus” as they claim and it cannot harm anyone, policy can harm them though. That’s the problem. Fundamentally bullshit with bullshit policy.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

that almost made sense.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Feb 20, 2021 7:57 AM
Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 20, 2021 11:38 AM

Very similar to the excess mortality graph i.e the covid ‘test’ causes deaths. The covid cult have caused some 500,000 deaths in europe alone.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 12:20 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Straight to hell I gotta send them they won’t survive me. The subversive contingency here at OffG is fairly large, and kinda damned.

Just in case you didn’t know.

If I happened to be a eugenicist (but a bit more advanced) than these pro-vaxxers and such…I would mention a few qualifiers:

If you support vaccines, manufacture, or push them – Automatic disqualification.

If you try to degenerate people with toxic unnecessary industrial pharmaceuticals – Automatic disqualification

If you try to demonize natural essentials – Automatic disqualification

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:16 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Please stop, people want to discuss stuff here not read your banal empty placards.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:03 PM
Reply to  Germourt

Refer to my reply to Edwige above.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 2:24 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

what about coke heads- do we support them too.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 3:03 PM
Reply to  aybeesea

What a peculiar question to state.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 12:46 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

You know he an agent, right?

Sarah Jones
Sarah Jones
Feb 20, 2021 12:59 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

The vaxx vs anti vax thing is a black hole sucking people into the germ theory. Many of the antivaxxers are controlled opposition or led astray by controlled opposition such as RFK who supported the vaxx queen HRC. Vaccine safety/ choice is a fall back position to hold would be health advocates in team virus promoting virus propaganda that detracts from real health advocacy. Real heal advocates seek to pull the discucssion round to health knowledge such as cleansing the lymphatic system with fruits and salads, planting gardens, getting out in the sun for vitamin D and a host of other benefits, organising together to create healthy relationships and safe environments protected from vaccine criminals etc.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 5:52 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

I basically agree with that. And I’ve been mentioning that stuff.

I’ve been trying to suggest that there are NO safe vaccines, that the methodology is wrong and the fundamental essentials are not being addressed.

The problem is, there are only a handful of posters here that support that view and the narrative is saturated with utter garbage.

So, is there ANY point in posting here?

Like some would say “Oh it’s not the vaccines, forget about that, it’s the masks, that’s the main thing.”

Or “Oh if only they promoted HCQ and ivermectin”

Or “But if only vaccines were safe”

etc.

It’s obvious and it’s probably 90%+ of the spam drivel referencing and repeating typical MSM and establishment shit, focusing on that narrative, idolators, etc here on OffG.

aybeesea
aybeesea
Feb 20, 2021 7:44 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

can’t you have your meltdowns off line

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Feb 21, 2021 2:20 AM
Reply to  CatCollector

Vaccines are wrong because of the absolute crap they put in them, but they are also wrong in principle, even if they had no crap in them. That’s roughly my position. Sorry for the over-technical language. : – )

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 6:05 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

So…you know…coz the world is too shit.

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:13 PM
Reply to  CatCollector

Agent of what?

Germourt
Germourt
Feb 20, 2021 1:11 PM
Reply to  Sarah Jones

Just think of the savings in healthcare and pension payouts. This operation is paying for itself.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 21, 2021 6:33 AM

The whole world obeyed the orders:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths

Unfortunately, vaccination is undoing any good news. Look at this data of deaths in 5 countries that have pursued vaccination aggressively.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&minPopulationFilter=1000000&time=2020-02-28..latest&country=ISR~PRT~ARE~GBR~USA&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&hideControls=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Feb 20, 2021 7:53 AM

Money is only one of the two main priorities of such companies. The other is social control. And they’ll sacrifice some of A in order to achieve B, particularly in times when social instability is mounting.

Magie
Magie
Feb 20, 2021 11:37 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Jeffery well said they have BEYOND money this is what people dont understand
also mega company’s have cycles
they wil also have 100 1000’s of other fingers in many pies
Most importantly they have your data timeline history and they have been here before.

Reality tv, sure indoctrination the wannibe TV film stars. let me update my facebook to tell the world.

Face book symbolism was known in john dee times as 2 ball and a cane Tubal-cain or Tubalcain even in the bible.

Ian Fleming based 007 about him.

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Thom
Thom
Feb 20, 2021 7:26 AM

True but the value of these companies would hurt more if the US state withdrew its support and they were permitted proper competition in the US and around the world. Without state support and enforcement by the US military/intelligence agencies these tech corporations would collapse like a souffle – for unlike, say, Standard Oil, they produce and own almost nothing of genuine value. The inflating of the tech stock prices and the lockdowns to try to force people online are part of the same last stand by the US state to preserve its global dominance. People around the world should boycott these firms as much as possible and seek freedom of speech in the old-fashioned way..

Schmitz Katze
Schmitz Katze
Feb 20, 2021 7:19 AM

Baal Gates finally tells the truth.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Feb 20, 2021 7:50 AM
Reply to  Schmitz Katze

Instead of the promised, and undoubtedly educational, Baal Gates video posted by Schmitz Katze, I am seeing the YT image for “Gojira – Born For One Thing” posted by CatCollector (or was it their pal, “Sarah Jones”?), whose mission here has, once again, been partially accomplished.

SK: Could you please reply with your original video link in the format: youtu.be/watch?v=________

ADMIN: Since this keeps on happening with YT videos, and is constantly abused by the ill-intentioned, would it not be possible to make an adjustment to the software that automatically turns any YT link into a youtu.be link, where the posted video link displays correctly (and simply as a link, without an image)? THANK YOU!

Paul_too
Paul_too
Feb 20, 2021 10:56 AM

If you look under any Youtube video (on the YT site) there’s a ‘Share’ option to the right of the up/down votes.

Click that and you’ll see a box with the shortened link (https://youtu.be/…..) and ‘COPY’ next to it.

Use that and you’ll get the correct video.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 21, 2021 2:11 AM
Reply to  Schmitz Katze

T wish Sarah Jones and Cat Collector linked to videos like this one.

davemass
davemass
Feb 20, 2021 6:49 AM

Why were Google and FB allowed to buy direct competitors like Instagram, or YouTube, or even Google allowed to acquire Android, the LINUX clone, originally open-source?! Thus tieing up phone OSs to 2 mammoth tech companies?
So much for ‘free markets’ in USA. It’s always been ‘free markets’ as long as they are in ‘our’ favour!
How is the Chinese OS coming along?!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 20, 2021 1:41 PM
Reply to  davemass

Hello davemass: Android, iPad, T-Mobil, Verizon, Google, Facebook, on and on… All these “operation system” based technologies are for surveillance and tracking, period. The computer industry was never intended for a ‘free’ market…

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 3:05 PM
Reply to  davemass

Reminder of facebook sort of policies, I highly recommend you listen to how using instagram means they have access to ANY of your data.

Personally, things I don’t use: Apple products, microsoft hardware and related services, facebook, twitter, instagram, smartphones with android, etc. If youtube was detached from alphabet/google (as it was before they were bought), that’d be nice.

The irony of having this on youtube is of course somewhat bizarre. Btw, alphabet/ google has serious accounting difficulties now that they’ve been audited properly.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Feb 20, 2021 6:22 AM

Do these things have real value ? And do we care if our oppressors are “hurting” themselves ?

Jacques
Jacques
Feb 20, 2021 6:39 AM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

That’s a very good question, Peter. As it’s coming to the surface into plain sight that many things we might have taken kinda for granted, such as democracy (fake US election), vaccine (viruses don’t really cause nothing if they exist at all), and all sorts of other things, everybody should give a deep thought to the meaning of value.

I’d venture to say that if people are honest to themselves, value is not the price tag attached to whatever useless piece of shit they possess.

Anyway, does Facebook have a value? I’d say that there is some value in the existence of a network that allows people from the world over to communicate, keep in touch. I like being in contact with the people I’ve met on my journey through the world, whom I’d probably never have talked to otherwise. Then again, the detriment of being exposed to heaps and heaps of horseshit kinda negate that value, not to mention that one could argue that FB is a battlefield owned by the enemy.

Does Twitter have a value? Fuck, no. What’s the value of sending short messages? Write an article, have it published, and I might read it. I don’t need to be informed of every random idiot’s impulsive thoughts in a nanosecond’s time.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Feb 21, 2021 2:24 AM
Reply to  Jacques

You can of course link to long articles or videos on Twitter. That’s its real value IMO.

You can also communicate with people who would never give out their email address. How valuable that is in practice is another question.

But I told Matt Hancock to resign today, which made me feel better, if nothing else.

CatCollector
CatCollector
Feb 20, 2021 2:31 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

The are massively overvalued. But aside from that, most of it is used maliciously.