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Second Stage Terror Wars

Edward Curtin

“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
William Casey, CIA Director, Feb. 1981

It is well known that the endless US war on terror was overtly launched following the mass murders of September 11, 2001 and the linked anthrax attacks.

The invasion of Afghanistan and the Patriot Act were immediately justified by those insider murders, and subsequently the wars against Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.  So too the terrorizing of the American people with constant fear-mongering about imminent Islamic terrorist attacks from abroad that never came.

It is less well known that the executive director of the U.S. cover story – the fictional 9/11 Commission Report – was Philip Zelikow, who controlled and shaped the report from start to finish.

It is even less well known that Zelikow, a professor at the University of Virginia, was closely associated with Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush, Dickey Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Brent Scowcroft, et al. and had served in various key intelligence positions in both the George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush administrations. In 2011 President Obama named him to his President’s Intelligence Advisory Board as befits bi-partisan elite rule and coverup compensation across political parties.

Perhaps it’s unknown or just forgotten that The Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Commission repeatedly called for Zelikow’s removal, claiming that his appointment made a farce of the claim that the Commission was independent.

Zelikow said that for the Commission to consider alternative theories to the government’s claims about Osama bin Laden was akin to whacking moles.  This is the man, who at the request of his colleague Condoleezza Rice, became the primary author of (NSS 2002) The National Security Strategy of the United States of America, that declared that the U.S. would no longer abide by international law but was adopting a policy of preemptive war, as declared by George W. Bush at West Point in June 2002.  This was used as justification for the attack on Iraq in 2003 and was a rejection of the charter of the United Nations.

So, based on Zelikow’s work creating a magic mountain of deception while disregarding so-called molehills, we have had twenty years of American terror wars around the world in which U.S. forces have murdered millions of innocent people.  Wars that will be continuing for years to come despite rhetoric to the contrary.  The rhetoric is simply propaganda to cover up the increasingly technological and space-based nature of these wars and the use of mercenaries and special forces.

Simultaneously, in a quasi-volte-face, the Biden administration has directed its resources inward toward domestic “terrorists”: that is, anyone who disagrees with its policies.  This is especially aimed at those who question the COVID-19 story.

Now Zelikow has been named to head a COVID Commission Planning Group based at the University of Virginia that is said to prepare the way for a National COVID Commission.  The group is funded by the Schmidt Futures, the Skoll Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation and Stand Together, with more expected to join in.  Zelikow, a member of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel, will lead the group that will work in conjunction with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security at the Bloomberg School of Public Health.  Stand together indeed: Charles KochBill GatesEric Schmidt, the Rockefellers, et al. funders of disinterested truth.

So once again the fox is in the hen house.

If you wistfully think the corona crisis will soon come to an end, I suggest you alter your perspective.  Zelikow’s involvement, among other things, suggests we are in the second phase of a long war of terror waged with two weapons – military and medical – whose propaganda messaging is carried out by the corporate mainstream media in the pursuit of the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset. Part one has so far lasted twenty years; part two may last longer. You can be certain it won’t end soon and that the new terrorists are domestic dissidents.

Did anyone think the freedoms lost with The Patriot Act were coming back some day?  Does anyone think the freedoms lost with the corona virus propaganda are coming back?  Many people probably have no idea what freedoms they lost with the Patriot Act, and many don’t even care.

And today?  Lockdowns, mandatory mask wearing, travel restrictions, requirements to be guinea pigs for vaccines that are not vaccines, etc.?

Who remembers the Nuremberg Codes?

And they thought they were free, as Milton Mayer wrote about the Germans under Hitler.  Like frogs in a pot of cold water, we need to feel the temperature rising before it’s too late.  The dial is turned to high heat now.

But that was so long ago and far away, right?  Don’t exaggerate, you say.  Hitler and all that crap.

Are you thankful now that government spokespeople are blatantly saying that they will so kindly give us back some freedoms if we only do what they’re told and get “vaccinated” with an experimental biological agentwear our masks, etc.? Hoi polloi are supposed to be grateful to their masters, who will grant some summer fun until they slam the door shut again.

Pfizer raked in $3.5 billion from vaccine sales in the first quarter of 2021, the first three months of the vaccine rollouts, and the company projects $26 billion for the year.  That’s one vaccine manufacturer.  Chump change?  Only a chump would not realize that Pfizer is the company that paid $2.3 billion in Federal criminal fines in 2009 – the largest ever paid by a drug company – for being a repeat offender in the marketing of 13 different drugs.

Meanwhile, the commission justifying the government’s claims about COVID-19 and injections (aka “vaccines”) will be hard at work writing their fictive report that will justify ex post facto the terrible damage that has occurred and that will continue to occur for many years.  Censorship and threats against dissidents will increase.  The disinformation that dominates the corporate mainstream media will of course continue, but this will be supplemented by alternative media that are already buckling under the pressure to conform.

The fact that there has been massive censorship of dissenting voices by Google/ YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia, etc., and equally massive disinformation by commission and omission across media platforms, should make everyone ask why.  Why repress dissent?  The answer should be obvious but is not.

The fact that so many refuse to see the significance of this censorship clearly shows the hypnotic effects of a massive mind control operation.

Name calling and censorship are sufficient.  Perfectly healthy people have now become a danger to others.  So mask up, get your experimental shot, and shut up!

Your body is no longer inviolable.  You must submit to medical procedures on your body whether you want them or not.  Do not object or question. If you do, you will be punished and will become a pariah.  The authorities will call you crazy, deviant, selfish. They will take away your rights to travel and engage in normal activities, such as attend college, etc.

Please do not recall The Nuremberg Code. Especially number 7 [my emphasis]:

“Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability or death.” 

“Now is the time to just do what you are told,” as Anthony Fauci so benevolently declared.

I am not making a prediction. The authorities have told us what’s coming. Pay attention.  Don’t be fooled.  It’s a game they have devised.  Keep people guessing.  On edge. Relieved. Tense. Relaxed. Shocked. Confused. That’s the game. One day this, the next that. You’re on, you’re off. You’re in, you’re out. We are allowing you this freedom, but be good children or we will have to retract it. If you misbehave, you will get a time out. Time to contemplate your sins.

If you once thought that COVID-19 would be a thing of the past by now, or ever, think again.  On May 3, 2021 The New York Times reported that the virus is here to stay.  This was again reported on May 10.  Hopes Fade for Global Herd Immunity.  You may recall that we were told such immunity would be achieved once enough people got the “vaccine” or enough people contracted the virus and developed antibodies.

On May 9, on ABC News, Dr. Fauci, when asked about indoor mask requirements being relaxed, said, “I think so, and I think you’re going to probably be seeing that as we go along, and as more people get vaccinated.” 

Then he added: “We do need to start being more liberal, as we get more people vaccinated.”

But then, in what CNN reported as a Mother’s Day prediction, he pushed the date for “normality” out another year, saying:

I hope that [by] next Mother’s Day, we’re going to see a dramatic difference than what we’re seeing right now. I believe that we will be about as close to back to normal as we can.  We’ve got to make sure that we get the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated. When that happens, the virus doesn’t really have any place to go. You’re not going to see a surge. You’re not going to see the kinds of numbers we see now.”

He said this with a straight face even though the experimental “vaccines,” by their makers own admissions, do not prevent the vaccinated from getting the virus or passing it on. They allege it only mitigates the severity of the virus if you contract it.

Notice the language and the vaccination meme repeated three times: We get more people vaccinated.” (my emphasis) Not that more people choose to get vaccinated, but “we get” them vaccinated. Thank you, Big Daddy. And now we have another year to go until “we will be about as close to back to normal as we can.”  Interesting phrase: as we can. In other words: we will never return to normality but will have to settle for the new normal that will involve fewer freedoms. 

Life will be reset, a great reset.  Great for the few and terrible for the many.

Once two vaccines were enough; then, no, maybe one is sufficient; no, you will need annual or semi-annual booster shots to counteract the new strains that they say are coming.  It’s a never-ending story with never-ending new strains in a massive never-ending medical experiment. The virus is changing so quickly and herd immunity is now a mystical idea, we are told, that it will never be achieved. We will have to be eternally vigilant.

But wait. Don’t despair. It looks like restrictions are easing up for the coming summer in the northern hemisphere. Lockdowns will be loosened. If you felt like a prisoner for the past year plus, now you will be paroled for a while. But don’t dispose of those masks just yet.  Fauci says that wearing masks could become seasonal following the pandemic because people have become accustomed to wearing them and that’s why the flu has disappeared. The masks didn’t prevent COVID-19 but eliminated the flu. 

Are you laughing yet?

Censorship and lockdowns and masks and mandatory injections are like padded cells in a madhouse and hospital world where free-association doesn’t lead to repressed truths because free association isn’t allowed, neither in word nor deed. Speaking freely and associating with others are too democratic. Yes, we thought we were free. False consciousness is pandemic. Exploitation is seen as benevolence. Silence reigns. And the veiled glances signify the ongoing terror that has spread like a virus.

We are now in a long war with two faces.  As with the one justified by the mass murders of September 11, 2001, this viral one isn’t going away.

The question is: Do we have to wait twenty years to grasp the obvious and fight for our freedoms?

We can be assured that Zelikow and his many associates at Covid Collaborative, including General Stanley McChrystal, Robert Gates, Arnie Duncan, Deval Patrick, Tom Ridge, et al. – a whole host of Republicans and Democrats backed by great wealth and institutional support, will not be “whacking moles” in their search for truth.  Their agenda is quite different.

But then again, you may recall where they stood on the mass murders of September 11, 2001 and the endless wars that have followed.

Edward Curtin is an independent writer whose work has appeared widely over many years. His website is edwardcurtin.com and his new book is Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies.

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RenegadeProphet
RenegadeProphet
May 26, 2021 1:58 PM

Execute the criminal bastard government or die in their coming, planned WW3! The scamdemic is all about the approaching Planet X that the chemtrails hide every day globally for the past thirty years. Planet X caused the sinking of Atlantis and Noah’s flood and this time around it will end WW3. The day of the next false flag with the nuke the evil bastard government stole in 2007 and blamed on Iran, America will be nuked and invaded by Russia, China and the whole SCO. This is the story in over half the Bible. So again, execute the criminal bastard government or die in WW3!

Claret
Claret
May 22, 2021 3:51 PM

Remember the ‘liquid bomb threat’ which brought about the restrictions regarding taking more than 100ml of any liquids on a flight? Around the same time we had The Christmas Underpant Bomber, The Shoe Bomber. As I recall there was even a suggestion that liquid explosive materials might be smuggled on board a plane concealed as breast or buttock implants! Anyway, I’d already been doubting the 9/11 saga at the time and on my cyber travels, I was fortunate enough to stumble upon this little gem:

Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible?
Let’s whip up some TATP and find out
By Thomas C Greene, 17 Aug 2006.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/

Just thought I’d share it with fellow doubters.
Coincidentally, Arby (I think) mentioned a film called ‘Mirror Lake’. The book was written by the author of the above article.

John Perez
John Perez
May 21, 2021 1:37 PM

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Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 21, 2021 4:25 PM
Reply to  John Perez

Thanks John, I’ll pass your message on to the team! A2

malcolm ripley
malcolm ripley
May 21, 2021 12:36 PM

Yawn. Yes we know. Yet another article that is full of whining about bad stuff. Where is the recommendation on how we combat this.

Bekind
Bekind
May 22, 2021 7:19 AM
Reply to  malcolm ripley

Check out James Corbett solutions watch. Off guardian frequently signpost to it.

Bob -Enough now
Bob -Enough now
Jun 5, 2021 7:31 PM
Reply to  malcolm ripley

You combat it by not giving in and taking the shot, join the “peaceful” marches “for now”; write to your MPs, reading everything you can find to fully understand -because knowledge is power – there are sites with standard letters to all; regards crimes against humanity and Nuremburg – fill them in and send them to all and sundry in power – so that they know – we know. The article is very informative – not whining about bad stuff. Watch or join “UK Column” Mon, Wed, Fri afternoon shows – look up sites like this – https://worldfreedomalliance.org/ ….. stop blaming others or looking towards others; now is the time to be pro-active yourself and when you do, you will find millions of other like minded individuals and organisations to give you the support you need.

Joe Van Steenbergen
Joe Van Steenbergen
May 20, 2021 4:44 AM

Recently I learned about the term, “kekistocracy,” which means, rule by idiots. But that isn’t sufficient a term to describe the regime we live under. It’s more appropriate to say that we are ruled by sociopaths, ultra-wealthy and mere-wealthy sociopaths, those who have no conscience and consider power to be the measure of a person’s success. We all are on our own, now; there is no one to turn to who is not hopelessly corrupt. I had a premonition this day would come; I just hoped it would not come in my lifetime. Selfish? Probably.

Red Corvair
Red Corvair
May 19, 2021 5:43 PM

This article is a very lucid and precious summary of what ‘the covid crisis’ is all about. Yet, when I hear Fauci now and consider what he’s saying in the context of a Texas (2nd US state in terms of population) free of masks and where ‘vaccine passports’ are now forbidden by law (the same goes for Florida and about one third of the US states), sometimes I visualize Fauci under the traits of that Iraqi propaganda minister declaring to the Iraqi people on national TV that the US troops were about to be annihilated (‘zero covid !!’) while you could see the smoke of Baghdad suburbs indicating the clear advance of the US troops towards ‘liberating’ the capital (in a move that did nothing for ‘helping democracy’ in Iraq but killed one million and a half Iraqis and counting in the now eighteen years of conflict under the fraudulent… Read more »

Brian Harry
Brian Harry
May 19, 2021 6:35 AM

I understand that Zelikow was also the author of the “NIST REPORT”……

Nancy Knight
Nancy Knight
May 18, 2021 11:00 PM

Where exactly is Fauci’s quote “Now is the time to do what you’re told” from please. Terrifying

Nancy Knight
Nancy Knight
May 19, 2021 12:37 AM
Reply to  Nancy Knight

Found it in NY Post 11/13/2020

Nounam
Nounam
May 18, 2021 3:52 AM

Although otherwise courageous, the fear of naming the actual perpetrators is prevalent in this as well as other off-guardian articles before it. So it keeps up beating around the bush in that respect which is detrimental for the supposed purpose. Otherwise a very good article.

dr death
dr death
May 18, 2021 11:48 AM
Reply to  Nounam

as gilad atzmon sagely states, jewish power is the ability to prevent discussion of it…
nowadays noticing things earns you the epithet..

neo-nazi..

ask ahem, comrade corbyn… and of course the harpies in the media bleating on about ‘russian’ interference whilst overlooking all the ‘friends of israel’, which of course is inarguably a murderous genocidal hell-hole…

‘it wont end well, it never does.’

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 18, 2021 1:14 AM

I would highly recommend that Off Guardian feature this documentary

https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY

If ‘they’ can perpetrate a hoax on that scale for that long … ‘they’ can fake anything.

A Circle can be made a Square

jim McDonagh
jim McDonagh
May 18, 2021 1:51 AM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

2+2 are indeed 5 in todays world !

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
May 18, 2021 7:06 AM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

10/10! The approach taken in this film urgently needs to be replicated in a CV-1984 documentary for something that would, at the very least, sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of all brainwashed believers who view it.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
May 18, 2021 9:15 AM

please delete

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 18, 2021 10:11 AM

Why?

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
May 18, 2021 9:16 AM

It looks like the filmmaker has just released this about Covid-19 prevention/remedies (in Italian):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KsDNQWrgU

00:00 Introduzione 13:31 Vitamina C 15:39 Vitamina D 18:25 Plasma iperimmune 26:44 lattoferrina 29:12 Cortisonici 32:13 Quercetina 33:39 Ozonoterapia 36:27 Adenosina 39:50 Ivermectina 41:55 Idrossiclorochina 1:01:30 Le prove 1:08:52 Conclusione

Bob -Enough now
Bob -Enough now
Jun 5, 2021 7:35 PM

Not 1984 – more …Brave New World

Dan J
Dan J
May 18, 2021 10:19 PM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

This Docu works! Even the most diehard normie can be convinced by this kindergarten style of explanation. And once they see the moon hoax a lot of other thing become possible.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 7:09 AM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

There would be very few who call out more events than I do as being hoaxes. I see hoaxes where no one else has a doubt I think, I see them ALL the time, it’s as if I cannot get away from them. See examples below. However, I believe in the moon landings because I believe the evidence says we went and it was an astonishing achievement, it truly was. Mazzucco’s film is really very shoddy. As Kary Mullis, the Nobel laureate inventor of the PCR technique, fraudulently being used to test for the non-existent SARS-CoV-2, says: the aim of the scientist is to prove their hypothesis wrong. Mazzucco doesn’t go near lunar experts, he only talks to fashion photographers – that’s not who you interview, certainly not exclusively – you need to talk to those who defend the moon landings, not talk to people who have no clue about… Read more »

Cascadian
Cascadian
May 19, 2021 11:38 AM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

The shadows argument – late in the doc – is suspect. He suggests that the blurring of the astronaut shadow is due to articificial lighting, but if that were so then the ground shadows would also be blurred. He destroys his own argument!

Edwige
Edwige
May 17, 2021 11:07 PM

“we are in the second phase of a long war of terror waged with two weapons – military and medical”. Is Mr. Curtin saving up climate change for the third phase – or doesn’t he think it’s one of the weapons in “the long war of terror”? It’s almost certainly ultimately the most significant. The threats from terrorism and viruses are external and need some vague plausibility which can’t be maintained indefinitely. Climate change locates the enemy in humanity itself and it cannot be eradicated except by eradicating humanity. The Fraudian has its latest climate terror porn. Greenland glaciers are melting so the only question is whether sea levels are about to go up 2m or 7m, “scientists say”. Stories like this are the kidney punches, the softening-up until they start going for the knockout punches to the jaw. Moving coastal populations inland isn’t happening tomorrow but it is part… Read more »

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 18, 2021 3:35 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Hello Edwige: Geoengineering and terra-terrorism are key elements in climate change agendas. >

Record-Setting Ocean Warmth Continued in 2019
Complete text: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs00376-020-9283-7.pdf

The headline should read: Thousands of scientists FAIL to notice 20 million tons of Aluminum oxides, Barium Nitrate, Strontium, and toxic halides added to the atmosphere by geoengineering aircraft annually. They also FAIL to notice, Decades long biological warfare used against civilian populations around the world. Stunning…

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 7:25 PM

Also in any areas where ice is actually melting or ocean is warming scientists fail to notice the volcanoes below. (They haven’t yet said that volcanoes are manmade.)

mgeo
mgeo
May 19, 2021 9:55 AM
Reply to  Penelope

There is a vast redistribution going on: (a) water going into the oceans (b) ice going off Greenland and Antarctica. This will have consequences for volcanoes and earthquakes, both on land and in the oceans.

Thom 9
Thom 9
May 17, 2021 10:20 PM

“Carpe diem! Rejoice while you are alive; enjoy the day; live life to the fullest; make the most of what you have. It is later than you think.”-Horace

Second time I used this quote today. Remember love! not fear…

Thanks to Edward Curtin.

PS if you want a sneak peak of where we are heading check here:
Exploring Biodigital Convergence
https://archive.is/d3dOt
also I highly suggest you sign up for the Corbett Report newsletter and read this article:
https://www.corbettreport.com/biodigital-convergence-bombshell-document-reveals-the-true-agenda/

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 18, 2021 12:31 AM
Reply to  Thom 9

Conventional oil peaked in 2005. Shale oil peaked in 2019 and is on the verge of total collapse. There will be no ‘Great Reset’ We are being put down before the power goes off, the petrol stations run dry, governments collapse and global famine begins (and cannibalism) Then there are 4000 spent fuel ponds ready to boil dry and release massive amounts of radiation over a thousand+ years. Covid and the vaccines are the response to Peak Oil. This will head off epic suffering by exterminating all humans. How else do you convince every world leader to not push back against this plan? We are headed for the same place no matter what we do — better to go quietly into the night … rather than try to fight an unwinnable battle. Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns. Financial Times.   A fracking binge in the American… Read more »

mojo
mojo
May 18, 2021 8:37 AM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

Hey thanx for the doom n gloom.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 18, 2021 10:30 AM
Reply to  mojo

Cold, hard analysis…

Thom 9
Thom 9
May 18, 2021 3:52 PM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

I don’t subcribe to the “Peak Oil Theory”. Why? Abiotic Oil. I am not “Pro Big Oil” though I see how “Peak Oil” was introduced to create a false scarcity and drive prices up. Just like the C02 Global Warming Scam which was based on proven failed climate models CMIP4, CMIP5. Atleast CMIP6 finally includes our star the sun and it’s profound cyclical effects on our planet and particularly our weather, still it lacks the solar forcing factors that have a major effect on weather and in particular extreme weather conditions. Global Warming was created to usher in the Carbon Tax Credit system and pass off the costs via taxes to ythe end users instead of the corporations. Yes I agree that the Shale gas industry has caused a toxic soup and left it’s scar on our planet that will take generations to undo. Toxicity is one of the biggest… Read more »

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 19, 2021 5:07 AM
Reply to  Thom 9

Oh I see… can you point me to an oil field that has refilled with this abiotic oil?

richard
richard
May 20, 2021 2:10 PM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

Many scientists have said that oil is produced naturally in the bowels of the earth by heat and pressure on carbon bearing sources – at a depth below where fossils might be.

https://principlescience.blogspot.com/2012/01/refilling-oil-fields.html#:~:text=Refilling%20Oil%20Fields%20Surprisingly%20under%20water%2C%20and%20deeper,mean%20that%20current%20estimates%20of%20oil%20and%20

Also there’s this hole that has been burning for 50 years now…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2179622/The-Door-Hell-Giant-hole-Karakum-Desert-40-YEARS.html

richard
richard
May 20, 2021 1:56 PM
Reply to  Thom 9

dick, dick, dick… more like. -chicken little.

mgeo
mgeo
May 19, 2021 10:02 AM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

Fracking also poisoned aquifers and arable land – in multiple countries

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 20, 2021 6:06 AM
Reply to  mgeo

It has but it’s been delivering around 10M barrels of oil per day for over a decade now.

And without those barrels $147 oil would have ramped up much higher and that would have collapsed the global economy long ago.

But as Art Berman is fond of saying, shale is the retirement party for oil. It’s sucking the beer dregs out of the carpet.

And now shale is ending. And there is nothing else.

So we get the virus made in a lab and released to create a pandemic — a campaign of fear aimed at convincing 8B people to get ‘vaccinated’

And we have Geert Vanden Bossche https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/ explaining how rolling out a leaky vaccine during a pandemic will end in catastrophe.

Again – nobody wants to be alive when civilization collapses.

Fortunately our leaders are doing the right thing and killing us off before the collapse.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 18, 2021 12:34 AM
Reply to  Thom 9

These freaks are not just insane, but they are profoundly anti human. They hate humanity. They want us to become part machine – some sort of cyborg…. Jesus.
“Remember love, not fear”.
Yes, I hear you Thom, and I get that, but having just read through most of that document, I’m only feeling anger and disgust instead.

Thom 9
Thom 9
May 18, 2021 3:31 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Hi Gezzah Pots,
I had same initial reaction after reading the document. It seems to me that the Satanic Cabal is letting their plans slip in an attempt to have their AI machinery guage the reaction and plot their solutions in advance. Just a guess on my part. It pretty much a given that the Satanic Cabal’s manifesto is wrapped in transhumanism. I think they have figured out it’s cheaper to augment living organic beings with “biodigital” enhancements and implants etc. . So the “Borg” will be their first step towards creating a technological replacement for humans and will enable them to do so with greater ease.

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 9:06 PM
Reply to  Thom 9

Thom 9

Thanks for posting this. Stupefying. Surely there are men of action somewhere who are as appalled as we are.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
May 17, 2021 7:25 PM

That Mr Curtin fervently believes one bureaucrat , Zelikow?, could have wreaked so much damage over so long a period along with his acceptance of the notion that 9/11 was a seminal event in US history while fully embracing the notion that the Covid pandemic is a fraud makes me suggest to him that he recalibrate his self deception meter ? All 3 beliefs, when held simultaneously, are a great example of cognitive dissonance in operation. All 3 cases are propagandized conspiracy theories of a sort ,the first 2 are false , the 3rd has been globally accepted as true at this point in time.

siamdave
siamdave
May 18, 2021 3:58 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

you seem to be a long ways from home, was it the place without the ‘off’ you were looking for?? run along home now, you’ll just get all upset here …

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 4:08 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Dissonance usually refers to holding CONTRADICTORY beliefs. All 3 cases are consistent w one another. Further, there’s a considerable body of evidence which supports that all 3 beliefs are congruent w reality. It is actually somewhat dissonant that you should describe them as PROPAGANDIZED conspiracy theories. The 200-plus major media companies we had in the 70s have been reduced to SIX which adhere to a rigid story-line that avoids reference to any of said evidence; some would call such censorship proof of propaganda. Your only actual hint at logical argument is that covid “has been globally accepted as true at this point in time.” I’m sure you don’t need me to give you examples of untruths which have ACTUALLY been globally accepted. And in the case of covid, it would appear there are a pretty fair number who don’t accept it– even if many have been intimidated and pressured into… Read more »

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
May 17, 2021 7:04 PM

Endless War was declared, by our elites circa 1950 after our crushing defeat in Korea at Mao’s hands. 9/11, American version, was a minor atrocity when measured by the number of global mass murders that have occurred both before and since that Saudi attack.

richard
richard
May 17, 2021 9:01 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Saudi attack?? Whatever…

This is v. good.

https://youtu.be/tXnQoFeVQII

911 is the litmus test

Oh, brill piece by Mr. Curtin.

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 4:29 AM
Reply to  richard

Richard, Lovely video. But I would claim an exemption from condemnation for one person. This man upholds the official story & mocks the truth. Although he is highly intelligent and MUST know the truth, I claim an exemption for him. I believe– totally w/o evidence– that he has been intimidated, probably by threats against his family. The man is NOAM CHOMSKY. I do not believe that– absent intimidation– he would contradict his entire intellectual position re TPTB.

Cas
Cas
May 18, 2021 5:46 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Naïve, or uninformed, Penelope?

Chomsky is a shill. To live in a kibbutz, which is a piece of land snatched from the Palestinians, is tantamount to committing murder – because this is how the israel was formed!

Designed dissent has been his motivation from the beginning.
The idiots rallied around him, then he misled them.
The 9/11 he always stated to be what the government had said!!

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 9:11 PM
Reply to  Cas

Cas, perhaps I’m uninformed. I was greatly taken w his books laying out the great military sins of my country– and the political/media machiations in support of them.

Ort
Ort
May 19, 2021 7:54 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Without descending into claims and speculation that Chomsky was always a government/intelligence asset, “controlled opposition”, a self-serving pseudo-radical, etc., it may still be observed that Chomsky has always had a deplorable side. FWIW, I bought into the Chomsky mythos for a long time, and was also enlightened and impressed by his “manufactured consent” critique of government/mass-media propaganda. FWIW, until I read Douglass’s justly praised 2008 book JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, I had “sensibly” avoided the topic of JFK assassination research. I bought into the overclass-manufactured “Sphere of Acceptable Discourse” narrative that dismisses and derides contrarian research as the product of lunatic-fringe “tinfoil-hatters” digging surrealistic rabbit holes and jumping into them. After this epiphany, I reversed course and stepped into the JFK rabbit hole. In the course of my meandering, I discovered that Noam Chomsky’s dubious public response to the JFK assassination had gone right… Read more »

Waldorf
Waldorf
May 20, 2021 1:01 PM
Reply to  Ort

I am going to be pedantic and point out that Longfellow died in 1882.

Ort
Ort
May 20, 2021 9:54 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

Well, I did write “c. 1904″. I’m not too proud to accept correction, though. I’d posted the verse long ago to a Notepad doc filled with random quotable materials, and evidently lifted “1904” from the date in which the poem (or ditty) was posthumously published: Bliss Carman, et al., eds. The World’s Best Poetry. Volume I. Of Home: of Friendship. 1904. Too late to edit the OP. FWIW, this poem has been extensively republished and anthologized, so a search brings up innumerable references. I checked several, and none of them provided the date when Longfellow actually wrote it, or first published it. Instead, as my erroneous post did, they only mention the year that their source was published– one mentioned “1883”! More than one site repeated this anecdotal reference: Longfellow’s second son Ernest says of this poem: “It was while walking up and down with his second daughter, then a baby in his arms, that my father… Read more »

Peter
Peter
May 18, 2021 4:35 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Saudi Arabia is in the same region as the actual perpetrator. You are close.

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 9:13 PM
Reply to  Peter

Peter, surely the 9/11 perpetrator was elements of US govt, altho I grant you the Israelis had an operational role.

Peter
Peter
May 19, 2021 4:19 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Agreed.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 17, 2021 5:24 PM

Good to see mention of ” the vaccine(sic) doesn’t prevent you from catching covid or from passing it on”. Regardless of any other caveats, isn’t that enough to make you merely not bother about it, let alone go out of your way to get one? Have you got your vitamin d supplement passport? No? Sorry you can’t come in. What, you haven’t taken an aspirin today? You’re a threat to society and I must arrest you.

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 4:57 PM

I’d like to link to an article by Jonathan Turley in today’s globalresearch.ca. Though it’s next to nothing in the on-going propaganda war against humanity, to me it’s significant because Mr Turley used to be a “regular” guest on Keith Olberman’s show (before MSNBC gave it to Rachel Maddow).

Though not a true-blue “liberal,” Professor Turley is to date the closest to a liberal who’s offered even a passing glance of skepticism.

CDC Admits that It Miscalculated the Risk of Outdoor COVID Transmission – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

banana
banana
May 17, 2021 4:20 PM

“You know that with each subsequent vaccine the chances rise that you are going to kill people.

That’s why they are starting to vaccinate children – they are going to show that the vaccine is tolerated by children – then they are going to use this wherever they want to.
“Once that has come through, these guys have a free hand to do whatever they want, wherever they want. And no one can do anything about it. It’s so horrible.

“How can people be so evil? How can people be so ignorant? It’s that combination of evil and ignorance that is making the world a living hell. And the only people who can do anything about it is us because we have to get the world around us to stand up and realise that they are being led to a living hell.

Dr Bhakdi

Sheena Parish
Sheena Parish
May 17, 2021 7:12 PM
Reply to  banana

Jesuits – Fauci, Pope, Biden, Trump and Port of New York Authority who sold Larry Silverstein the towers a few weeks before they were nuked. Jesuits’ oath is to kill every Christian. Bush Snr (whose father ran Auschwitz) declared the New World order and put the Noahide Laws inside the Education Day Act to behead the Christians. Obama bought 30,000 guillotines (removed from internet) Condoleeza Rice, Kissinger, Blair, Robert Gates – all the devils from hell – visited Modi of India in 2019. Why? The Indian variant? Now non vaccinated are domestic terrorists!!! Not the genocidal pedo maniacs hell bent on depopulating the planet.

Veri
Veri
May 17, 2021 10:36 PM
Reply to  banana

Read: People of the Lie by M Scott Peck for a description of ‘evil’.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 18, 2021 12:33 AM
Reply to  Veri

I think The Prince is a far more useful book to read

OldBlueHen
OldBlueHen
May 26, 2021 1:03 PM
Reply to  Fast Eddy

Read it in French class, 1964. Great reference!

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 3:03 PM

As always, I don’t fault the fox for being a predator: I fault the hens for unlocking and opening the door to their house.

We will never ever ever ever ever ever get this mess sorted out if we keep foolishly blaming those who planned it, executed it and mean to continue it.

There are those of us who were not fooled – neither by 9/11 nor by COVID-19. What, are we a different species from those who were so easily fooled? I don’t think so.

We are living proof that it is possible to resist even the most focused propaganda. Why can’t the rest?

Paolo
Paolo
May 17, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  Howard

The amount of manchurian candidates that have been schooled in Schwabs young global leader programme is kind of alarming.
He was name dropping Blair recently as a previous alumni, Merkel too (which would explain a lot. In germany the current health minister Jens Spahn and the weirdly seemingly annointed coming Chancellor, and head of the green party (!!!?????WTF) Annalena Baerbock are two others.
The agenda seems always the same. Global not local. Destroy your own country from within, dissolving its infrastructure (in favour of subsidised global private players) and generate levels of unsustainability leading to a crisis where private money and philanthropy will be sold as some kind of a solution.
Welcome to the world of benevolent neo feudalism.
Step one: roll up your right sleeve.
This won’t hurt…..

Paolo
Paolo
May 17, 2021 5:26 PM
Reply to  Paolo

Well it might hurt, but if it does its normal.
The new normal.

David Matthews
David Matthews
May 17, 2021 8:04 PM
Reply to  Howard

You can fool some of the people all the time and those are the ones we have to concentrate on

Does that Bush (the elder I think) quote answer your question?

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 4:40 AM
Reply to  Howard

It is normal for a fox to be a predator. It is profoundly evil to behave as TP
TB are behaving– and we should CERTAINLY judge & blame them for it– NOT solely the frightened people who are running away or are duped.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
May 18, 2021 10:21 AM
Reply to  Howard

When a person decides to improve himself spiritually he must take up the quest on all fronts. You do not become enlightened simply by reading enlightened authors. You have to deal with your own internal issues and behaviour simultaneously.
In the same way it does not make sense to simply focus on the hens who left the door open. Yes this is a factor, but if you and others are being repeatedly punched in the face you would have to understand who is doing it and why if you would wish to stop it. You could simply block or run, but that is not really dealing with the problem.
Self defence and understanding, not one or the other.

DavidW
DavidW
May 17, 2021 2:35 PM

Same coverup M.O. as 9-11.

Appoint a key insider as head of a commission to conceal, obfuscate and eliminate
facts or witnesses to the controlled demolition of the global economy (in order
to “build back better”, of course).

Dramatize and saturate the media with heartfelt stories of the suffering of
Covid victims – which of course includes all of us because we were all
traumatized victims of the evil Covid (not the response thereto).

Using this psychological manipulation and propaganda stigmatize any
questioning of the official narrative as at best callous and cold-blooded
bordering on sociopathy, but more likely indicative of domestic terrorism.

Here we go again.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
May 17, 2021 1:59 PM

Many people probably have no idea what freedoms they lost with the Patriot Act, and many don’t even care. I digress from this assertion. The majority of people has absolutely no clue what Freedom really is. “Freedom” is now used in such an inflationary fashion, that most relate it to choices in consumerism. To understand what Freedom really is, one has to understand what Life is and is about. And there, the Gorilla in the tiny house kitchen has a hard time to convince people of coming clean with the fact where this obedience comes from – this obedience that enables psychopaths to get away with everything. Everything. Fast forward to the often recited fact, that there are more guns than inhabitants in the US, the main motor for the re-structuring efforts to drive out everything that is deemed natural, to rework the species called homo sapiens (by itself) into… Read more »

Malatok
Malatok
May 17, 2021 1:37 PM

The covaids caper and vaxx cull is the greatest crime ever perpetuated by the satanic pedovore filth, their lying presstitutes, craven political filth and the brainless pigs crushing skulls on the street of anyone that dares resist the genocide. It has been an intelligence test from the start and now as the poisoned, jabbed morons start to collapse en masse and croak only a total retard continues to imagine that the eugenicists and drug cartels are interested in anything other than their mass extermination and endless power and wealth.

Onward to Ouchwitz mein Schnuckis Pfizer macht frei

Onkel Adolf says…”same as it ever waZ.”

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/05/16/exclusive-interview-with-dr-bhakdi-parents-are-willingly-allowing-their-children-to-be-killed-if-they-allow-them-to-have-the-covid-vaccine/

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
May 17, 2021 6:20 PM
Reply to  Malatok

At last someone who really understands what the Covid event is all about, so many thanks. Many people, even on this excellent site, still haven’t yet grasped the enormity of what has befallen to those who live in the western world.

The Covid event is about genocide and the chosen method of those who would murder us, is vaccination, with vaccines that aren’t vaccines. Everything else about Covid is just a part of the process of controlling and coercing the masses into offering themselves up for the lethal injections.

When the supply of naive and/or coerced volunteers runs dry they will then come for the committed vaccine refusers. So we must be ready to repel, with all necessary force, those who are willing to cause us great harm.

George Mc
George Mc
May 17, 2021 12:15 PM

The one thing that repels people away from the covid-as-bullshit idea is the sheer scale of the con and their total refusal to allow themselves to think along these lines. I’ll never forget that terrific scene in the JFK movie when one of Jim Garrison’s team, on uncovering more and more, cracks under the strain and explodes with: “I respect this country’s institutions! How the hell can you keep a conspiracy going between the mob, CIA, FBl, Army Intelligence and who knows what else when you can’t keep a secret in this room between 12 people?” To which Garrison replies: “Could the Mob change the parade route, Bill, or eliminate the protection for the President? Could the Mob send Oswald to Russia and get him back? Could the Mob get the FBI the CIA, and the Dallas Police to make a mess of the investigation? Could the Mob appoint the… Read more »

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
May 17, 2021 1:13 PM
Reply to  George Mc

This is the biggest con in human history. And possibly the end of human history.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 17, 2021 5:33 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

The biggest con IS human history….as told. Not forgetting money, the enabler of deception.

hotrod31
hotrod31
May 17, 2021 3:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Touche to you, Sah! … all the evidence one ever needed right in front of their very eyes, and yet they still prefer the comforting bullshit. It is nigh on impossible to help those who are beyond redemption. I propose that Gates and Schwab administer their vaccine and get rid of all the brainless shits who want the prick.
In the meanwhile, a strategy needs to be devised to make the real 9-11 perpetrators accountable for their crimes against humanity. There is a relative of one of the slimy shits from Urban Moving who has actually acquired a ministerial seat in the Australian Federal Parliament, cheeky bastard.

flashlight joe
flashlight joe
May 20, 2021 6:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

@George, “The one thing that repels people away from the covid-as-bullshit idea is the sheer scale of the con and their total refusal to allow themselves to think along these lines. “ …and the quote from Adolf describing this power: “ “In this they proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposeful evil, and that, therefore, in view of the simplicity of their minds, they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads, and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous… Read more »

Patrick
Patrick
May 17, 2021 12:14 PM

It’s interesting here in Ireland we have now going on this big news about how the whole computer infrastructure of the HSE (our equivalent to the NHS) has been hacked. Interesting because youtubers like “Ice Age Farmer” who is quoting the likes of Klaus Schwaub that the next big thing which they added would make Covid look like nothing would be a cyber attack. We have had one in America but here it’s like they are combining both with the ongoing Covid nonsense with this now cyber attack I don’t want to speculate beyond that but it is interesting at least to me so now we have a kind of double jeopardy where they are advising us about Covid with the added complication of how to navigate the health system which is supposedly ‘under attack’. It can get real complicated real quick. So if you get the sniffles you really… Read more »

Malatok
Malatok
May 17, 2021 1:49 PM
Reply to  Patrick

The terror that was unleashed by the groups mentioned above was synthetic state generated terror. Operation Gladio, the book by Paul L Williams explains in detail and also the excellent documentary below…
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA&ab_channel=hejjagheterpal
 
and the audio book Part 1 & 2
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B-5y39YxD4&ab_channel=Hone%26comb
 

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
May 18, 2021 1:10 AM
Reply to  Malatok

I recently read this book – it is EXCELLENT.

ces21
ces21
May 18, 2021 6:20 AM
Reply to  Malatok

I disagree with you Malatok. Not everything is an intelligence operation, as you seem to believe… People screw up regularly in engineering departments, or are under the hammer of idiot politicians, who get kick-backs and free dinners from promoting their favourite corporate lobbyists “Healthcare Solution”. If you only see through conspiracy tinted glasses, then all you ever see will be malice, distrust, and anti-western attitudes. As a matter of fact, there are hundreds of countries in the world, with their own hacker teams now, and their own intelligence agencies however small or poorly funded, with a cornucopia of extremely complex and nuanced ‘international relations’ complicating matters further. Perhaps one day there will be an international criminal court which has teeth and specialises in cyber-jurisprudence, but these days seemingly not. At the least, we can educate each other, as we learn more, on commonsense system protections or point others in the… Read more »

Magnus
Magnus
May 17, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  Patrick

Medical records should not be on the internet, unless you want to share them with anybody willing to pay a few pounds/euros for them.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/?s=medical+records

ces21
ces21
May 18, 2021 5:59 AM
Reply to  Patrick

Patrick, it is the same here in New Zealand, Australia, and other places. “Healthcare Solutions” get tendered off to foreign companies, who promise the most (to politicians with no clue about IT matters) and accomplish the least, at far as hardened or secured infrastructure goes. University graduates, and local startup companies are looked over most of the time, while politicians wax lyrical about ‘supporting local jobs’, recognising ‘local talent and innovation’, etc.

Most of the time these ‘hacking attacks’ are in reality a failure by senior department managers to get the design, and the job done right – first time. Complexity and having the most whizz-bang features is favoured over simplicity, root cause analysis, and operationally separated and air-gapped systems.

Idiots who put mission critical systems on the internet, or ‘in the cloud’ should be fired, and possibly fined for breach of contract, at the very least.

jimbojames
jimbojames
May 17, 2021 11:03 AM

No offense to Fauci but somebody should take him out.

Give me the gun.

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
May 17, 2021 12:03 PM
Reply to  jimbojames

I have been pining for some time for a resurgence of such groups as the Red Brigades and the Baader-Meinhof gang who knew exactly the kind of people to target. If ghouls like Gates, Zelikow, Karl Rove, John Bolton, and the rest of the rogues’ gallery had to think twice about stepping outside of the house unprotected, we might find they would interfere less in our lives.

siamdave
siamdave
May 17, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

such ideas have some attraction on a superficial level – but if things went that way – you don’t really think such groups would be better masters do you?? At least the current rulers, bad as they are, feel obligated to make some pretense at ‘democracy’ to keep the masses from exploding – the groups promoting rule by the most ruthless and successful gang will just kill anyone showing any resistance – not a place we really want to go.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
May 17, 2021 6:47 PM
Reply to  siamdave

Actually it can’t get any worse than what we have at the moment. They want rid of virtually all of us and that plan is now well underway. Your faith in our current leadership is utterly misplaced.

siamdave
siamdave
May 18, 2021 4:16 AM

actually my point was that jumping from the frying pan into the fire isn’t a good plan

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 1:32 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

I hear you Who …unfortunately the B.R. were completely infiltrated and piloted by the usual intelligence agencies. Operazione Gladio don’t you know … ?

mojo
mojo
May 17, 2021 2:38 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

“I know. But I don’t have the proof” as Pasolini stated wrt Gladio bombings in Italy.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 9:35 PM
Reply to  mojo

Thanks, mojo … Pasolini is worth more than a passing glance. I do believe he was about to name names with proof when he had a lover’s quarrel (official version) that left him dead.
“Io so chi sono i responsabili ma non posso fare i nomi.”
Italy from 1945 to the late 1980s was the playbook, the testing ground. I’ve often thought over the past decade or so that the Gladio operation (success?) is what spared Italy from the “terrorism” that visited the rest of Europe in the 2000s …

mojo
mojo
May 18, 2021 8:49 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

“lover’s quarrel”?
Actually the official story is he was beaten to death by a rent boy who served lengthy jail time.

It’s likely the CIA the founders of Gladio ordered his murder by mafiosi proxies.

mojo
mojo
May 18, 2021 8:52 AM
Reply to  mojo

His death occurred exactly a year after writing the piece for The Corriere della sera in which he states : “I know” (who ordered the bombings.) The article is actually worth reading for those of you who know Italian:

https://www.corriere.it/speciali/pasolini/ioso.html

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 19, 2021 7:11 PM
Reply to  mojo

Yes, mojo … exactly right.

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
May 17, 2021 2:39 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Yeah, I know. That sort of infiltration is inevitable (the Aldo Moro affair). Of course it’s far worse now, with groups like Antifa and BLM (not to mention “Rojava”) that are basically RUN by the alphabet agencies. At least the original founders of those 70s groups were genuine. And the inevitable infiltration doesn’t mean the BR/BM tactic isn’t effective in keeping the baddies on their toes (which is why they have to infilitrate)… The Bologna affair really backfired on the PTB in the long run…

Waldorf
Waldorf
May 17, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

In the 1980s I could still walk down Downing Street when the hardly universally popular Thatcher was PM. Then the IRA dropped an improvised mortar round in the vicinity. Not too long after Downing Street was cordoned off and has stayed that way. Even in supposed democracies, heads of state and government are under such tight security that they have little contact with ordinary people.
While it is true that these groups get infiltrated, that does not mean these state officials are totally safe. Because the state has its own infighting, and a plot might go ahead and even succeed on that basis. The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin was probably enabled at some level in the Israeli state, for example, as he was considered too willing to talk to the Palestinians.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 9:48 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

I agree with you, Who …
As a young man I was “brain washed” into thinking non-violence and pacifism was the way to go … not so sure anymore.
Of course, if I’d taken part in the “lotta armata” I probably wouldn’t be here writing this stuff …
As a humorous (black) aside the Italian President very recently stated passionately that it’s time to shed full light on the events of the 70s and 80s. I guess he missed what happen in the US with the thousands of unreleased documents regarding state terrorism there. Italy needs to wait her turn, no?
PS are you familiar with the downing of the passenger jet over Ustica? And also the deadly fire aboard the Moby Prince ferry?
Ora e sempre Resistenza!

Malatok
Malatok
May 17, 2021 1:47 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

The terror that was unleashed by the groups mentioned above was synthetic state generated terror. Operation Gladio, the book by Paul L Williams explains in detail and also the excellent documentary below…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA&ab_channel=hejjagheterpal

and the audio book Part 1 & 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B-5y39YxD4&ab_channel=Hone%26comb

Waldorf
Waldorf
May 17, 2021 7:51 PM
Reply to  Malatok

The 60s, with the Vietnam war and its radicalisation and the popularity of armed struggle was not entirely synthetic. In Germany for example, a layer of radical left-wing youth thought they were staring Nazism in the face again and decided they were not going to go under like their parents had. Hence the Red Army Faction. Even when the state manipulates, it has to take account of the environment in which it operates.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 6:32 AM
Reply to  Malatok

If you scrutinise the evidence for the alleged massacre in Bologna, however, you’ll find that it doesn’t add up. Their trick: First say it’s one thing Then say, oh no, the first thing was a lie, it’s this thing Reality: not the first thing or the second thing, something else For some reason people seem to really get hooked on the second thing it’s said to be if they’re not completely hooked by the first thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes up to a fourth thing or higher. It’s not that sophisticated. Tell a lie Pretend you’ve uncovered a lie and say it’s something else Reality: Something else again Folks, it’s all about MIND CONTROL, they’re always controlling our minds. I’m sure MKUltra is a real thing but they can control our minds so easily using simple little tricks that – for some reason – we keep falling… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 18, 2021 8:10 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Be ashamed, foolish woman(?).

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 18, 2021 8:25 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Forty years of intensive judicial investigations have brought numerous perpetrators to light and they have been duly punished (of course these are by and large just the laborers). Jurisprudence was invented in Italia. Are you really so arrogant as to believe that some well-paid lawyers working for Licio Gelli wouldn’t have played the hoax card? Then again, perhaps they’re the ones who have gave you the idea. Why don’t you try doing some real investigative work, Petra? I get that 3,000 victims are a tad more difficult to contact. But only 85 Italians were killed in the Bologna Massacre. The families get together every year to mark the tragic event. They have an association http://www.stragi.it/. I’m sure they’d be glad to talk to you via Zoom and I bet it wouldn’t cost you a penny. And I’m also sure you’ll find many associates who speak English. You can run your… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 9:04 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

I’m afraid you don’t appreciate to what lengths the hoaxery goes, Victor. I’m not arrogant, I just look at the evidence and I make facts mean what they must mean. Do you accept the phenomenon of “hidden in plain sight” aka “revelation of the method”? Do you accept that when they hoax us they always let us know with signs thus at the alleged Bologna massacre they TELL US LOUD AND CLEAR, but people tend to stubbornly remain DEAF AND BLIND to their signs despite my insistent pointing out of them. Why they insist on being deaf and blind I do not know. They offer their signs on a platter and yet you and countless others remain stubbornly deaf and blind. They want to create terror, OK? At the outset it’s perfectly reasonable that they don’t DO the terror for real because they don’t have to do it for real,… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 18, 2021 9:57 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Get in touch with http://www.stragi.it/ you coward.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 11:10 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

I was unaware of this organisation, Victor, what a great suggestion. I called the number and was told that the president of the organisation is Paolo Bolognesi, a politician and writer. You’ll never guess the title of one of the books he’s written: Order from Chaos, I kid you not. The Bologna station bombing has MASONIC written all over it. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Bolognesi I’ve written an email to him (translated into Italian) which I quote below: “I have some doubts about the bombing at Bologna station on August 2, 1980. From perusal of photographs and the reportage of the event it seems to me there was a bombing but there is no clear evidence of death and injury. Are you willing to discuss?” I’m not afraid to confront people, Victor, I confronted an alleged Veteran for Peace, Vince Emanuele, whom I went to see speak in Sydney in 2013. I hung on… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 11:43 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Of course, Victor, I’ll let you know what response I get.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 18, 2021 10:38 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Victor has a point. If you make zero effort to talk to the people involved or visit the places the events happened you run the real risk of losing touch with reality and starting to view the whole thing as some type of exercise or game.

I almost get the impression that’s what you want though.As if maybe there is reassurance for you in turning all this suffering into a cozy virtual puzzle you can play with from the safety of your computer chair?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 11:35 AM

Sophie, I’ve just contacted the president of the Association of the Relatives of the Victims of the Bologna Station Massacre as explained to Victor above. I also put a link in my comment above to an exchange I had with someone else I suspected was a controlled opposition agent and who, in the course of our conversation, demonstrated he is. I’ve also had a face-to-face conversation with someone I believe to be a controlled opposition agent in this pandemic scam too. I’m not afraid to talk to people but generally it’s difficult to get their contact details. Also, what happens when you say to someone, “You’re a controlled opposition agent.” Nothing. Also, going to the actual site of an event that’s happened will not necessarily get you good information. I worked for a NSW government organisation, icare, where – after I left – all kinds of shenanigans were exposed in… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 18, 2021 1:10 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Kudos on your initiative …
Your point, Petra, is that there are zero victims … What does the title of a book which I must doubt you’ve read, and was very likely suggested (or imposed) by the publisher have to do with it? What does Free Masonry have to do with whether or not there were any deaths?
You’ve already given yourself an out since Paolo Bolognese is a politician (horrors) and a writer, right?

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 18, 2021 1:37 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

P.S. there is absolutely nothing “alleged” about the very serious judicial investigation of this matter …

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

It’s easy to say there’s nothing “alleged” but if you don’t think they fake judicial stuff then you’re living in la-la land. They can go through the motions but it doesn’t mean anything.

What you must do Victor is make facts mean what they must mean. It is very obvious from the photographic evidence and the reportage that the massacre was faked, OK? And the thing is why not? Why wouldn’t it be faked? Its aim was to instil terror, they didn’t want to kill people, they only wanted to instil terror. Why are you so insistent that the killing was real? Why, a priori, do you insist on its reality?

Please do not write any more comments to me about Bologna unless you read my case for it and come back to me with a critique of it.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 2:15 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

What does Free Masonry have to do with whether or not there were any deaths?

There are Masonic signs in the reporting of the massacre Victor and the president of the association has written a book, Order from Chaos, which is a Masonic slogan represented I believe by 777. Of course, I haven’t read the book – I just looked the guy up in Wikipedia.

I haven’t given myself an out. When I called the number I was advised to email Bolognesi because he is the president of the Association. If you get me contact details for anyone else I’ll contact them.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 18, 2021 11:59 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Have you thought about talking to some of those you dismiss as actors or controlled oppos? Getting to know someone can often in the most basic way give you a grounding in reality easily lost through theorising.

Have you contacted Bob McIlvaine, Kevin Ryan, Judy Wood, Steven Jones (just as examples) and got their human stories?

might it not be helpful?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 7:44 AM

As I state above, Sophie, I have contacted someone I believe to be controlled opposition, Vince Emanuele, and I have put down our correspondence and I’ve just contacted the president of the association of the Bologna bombing people. I am quite sure I will not get a response – I won’t be getting a “how dare you, people died and here’s the evidence” response. I’d bet serious money that won’t happen because if there were convincing evidence it would have been shown to us and it hasn’t been … only evidence completely at odds with the story has been shown to us. I have also contacted Kevin Ryan and James Corbett who simply don’t respond and A&E for 9/11 Truth who are clearly a controlled opposition organisation and they don’t respond either – they did respond when I wasn’t asking difficult questions but then they stopped. But here’s a link… Read more »

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 19, 2021 8:46 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Ok. Well kudos for reaching out.

Could you post here what you said to Corbett and Ryan?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 19, 2021 9:00 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Corbett DID respond to that guy and invited him on his show. But the guy refused and then published obviously incomplete email correspondence to try to blow indignation smoke in hopes people would think he had something to be indignant about.

If you’re won over by such sloppy obvious manipulation you are not the critical thinker you claim to be.

influential people who persuade others to question and think will always be attacked by paid shills pretending to have some ‘real truth’ that is being censored.

Corbett encourages people to ask their own questions and get their own answers. His attackers claim they already have all the answers and people just need to believe them.

who really looks like a snake oil salesman here?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 11:03 AM

Why do you find James’ claim that Allan refused his invitation more credible than Allan’s claim that he didn’t? Actually, his open letter to Corbett is better than what I posted to although I think what Allan says in the above post stands strong. http://blog.banditobooks.com/an-open-letter-to-james-corbett/ Corbett encourages people to ask their own questions and get their own answers. Of course he does. Anyone can dish out those kinds of platitudes, Sophie, especially a competent disinformation agent. Do you seriously think that James Corbett replied to this open letter? If so, then can I suggest you write to James and ask him if he replied to Allan’s open letter. I’m not going to do it because I’m pretty sure I know what the response will be but if you believe him then surely your email would be one that he would respond to, especially as you work for Off-Guardian. He would… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 18, 2021 1:06 PM

Yes, Sophie … You see, a hoax is mischief and, well, “boys will be boys, and girls will be girls” … How angry can one really get?
Murder is murder.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 18, 2021 11:44 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Interesting point. I wonder if Petra has considered that the whole ‘hoax’ narrative might be the ultimate controlled opp argument.

As you say, if ‘truthers’ can be persuaded no one really died then an atrocity like 9/11 is reduced to being a silly jape. Everyone can just shrug and move on.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 7:54 AM

As you say, if ‘truthers’ can be persuaded no one really died …

But, Sophie, they cannot be easily persuaded, can they, look at your level of persuasion. Most OffGers are not persuaded and generally I find truthers not very amenable to the idea of hoax at all.

And, of course, the perps KNEW that even once truthers started calling “Hoax, 9/11 was a complete hoax!” they wouldn’t get much traction.

Oh my goodness, it doesn’t matter what I talk about – 9/11, COVID, the moon landings (for their truth), whatever I’m always at loggerheads. Drives me absolutely nuts.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 19, 2021 8:40 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

But YOU are persuaded and many others like you. Look at what it’s done to you! You now allege the very people who exposed the existence of nanothermite in the dust are ‘controlled opposition’.

You are now actively working to discredit the most blatant evidence that it was an inside job – because you are fixated on the allegedly fake deaths as being more important.

You have become LESS effective at spreading the message.

Is that not exactly what the PTB want?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 11:36 AM

I’m not “persuaded” Sophie, I judge purely by the evidence, the 100% every-single-instance-of-death-and-injury evidence that shows fakery. I believe this was the secondary propaganda strategy for 9/11. They knew, of course, that some people would not be fooled by the radical repudiation of Newtonian physics and complete failure of air defense protocols so they had a special propaganda campaign targeted to those people. The propaganda campaign was to arm those people with half-truth. I don’t quite understand it how it works but it seems that being armed with half-truth is no different from being armed with a complete lie. Complete lie/half-truth you’ll get nowhere, you need the complete truth – not necessarily every detail but you need the truth basics so this is what they did: 1. They gagged the anticipated disbelievers with controlled demolition (WTC-7’s collapse was completely unnecessary for their terror story, this was deliberate to get all… Read more »

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 19, 2021 4:54 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Sigh – that is such a typical “spectrum” reply!

You ARE persuaded. You believe it’s true.

I didn’t even say you were wrong!

But your new belief system definitely makes you less effective at winning people over to questioning 9/11. By your own admission.

So maybe the perps litter these events with blatant bits of fakery so that a tiny but vocal minority will start believing the whole thing was faked and thus create a bit more diversion and division.

That makes just as much sense as your version, right?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 20, 2021 3:20 AM

What I keep harping on about, Sophie, and I’m sure you will agree that it’s essential to the argument is evidence. What your post implies is that while we are deliberately presented with fakery, some reality of death and injury exists “somewhere” but where is this “somewhere” of reality of death and injury? Incontrovertible fact: There is not a single skerrick of evidence of reality of death and injury for 9/11. (As I’ve said in other comments the perps are scrupulous in their implementation in ALWAYS making their fakery obvious. If they weren’t, my hobby of analysing psyops could not exist, I’d be screwed, because I certainly wouldn’t be analysing these events if they were clouded in doubt – I’m not interested in theorising about events, I want certainty, which is probably one of the reasons why my interest in political subjects is limited, I’m only interested where I can… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 20, 2021 5:36 AM

Just to add: If some people died then we’d have to wonder about the need for fake loved ones such as Bob McIlvaine (shown to us to be fake with photoshopped photos of him and his alleged son, Bobby). We’d also have to wonder about the interaction between fake loved ones such as Bob McIlvaine and real loved ones. Occam’s Razor In the absence of evidence to the contrary the hypothesis raising the fewest assumptions and questions wins. The hypothesis that all death and injury were staged (or virtually all) wins over Partial death and injury when we look at obviously faked loved ones. If people really died there would be the issue of interaction between fake loved ones and real loved ones also real loved ones would be genuinely angry and genuinely demanding answers, they’d be quite difficult to manage. They’d surely be doing a lot more jumping up… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 19, 2021 7:19 PM

Sophie, thanks for take some of your no doubt precious time to engaging Petra.
She (?) is pretty obvious at the end of then day. I gather it’s mostly about word count and post numbers.
Personally, I’d hate to have to pay my bills that way …

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 20, 2021 4:53 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Just to keep you posted, Victor. Haven’t heard a peep from Paolo. Nope, no indignant email rebuking me for my insensitivity and assuring me that of course the massacre happened with photographs to prove it. If you have any contact details of any of the poor loved ones or those injured on August 2, 1980, please let me know and I’ll be right onto them. My awakening to how they control our minds was the film, JFK to 9/11 Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick by filmmaker, Francis Richard Conolly. I highly recommend it if you haven’t watched it. In that film he says: ALL TERROR IS FAKE At the time I thought that’s a big call but over time I realise it’s pretty much correct. I’ve done my due diligence but you haven’t done yours, you’re far too indoctrinated by the idea that terror must be done for real… Read more »

James Robertson
James Robertson
May 20, 2021 5:28 AM

The assertion that the supposed Nanothermnite in the WTC dust is the best evidence of 911 being a false flag is abject nonsense. The best evidence by a considerable margin is the fact that WTC 7 fell at freefall acceleration and this was ascribed to office fires.
The idea that dust- completely lacking a real chain of evidence- that is claimed to be from the WTC but cannot be proven to be from the WTC is stronger than that is bewildering to say the least. Try logic sometime, you might find you like it!

Ian
Ian
May 17, 2021 2:09 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

Not really the way to go. The next place holder mouth piece to take their place is waiting eagerly in the wings. As long as you obey they have power. Once you resist their powers evaporate. Without your compliance they might as well be dead.

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 3:09 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

Dude, you’re targeting the wrong people. If there’s anybody in need of dispatching, it’s your friends, neighbors and family. In a word: it’s Everybody who accepts the obvious bullshit as indisputable fact.

You really want to take them on?

James Robertson
James Robertson
May 18, 2021 7:53 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

The Red Brigades were a CIA front. Aldo Moro was kidnapped and murdered because the US did not approve of his attempts to form a coalition with the communist party. Prior to his murder, Moro was threatened by Henry Kissinger. https://latunisiededina.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-murder-of-aldo-moro-was-cia-decision.html Similarly the IRA were a British intelligence front.The head of Security for the IRA in Belfast at the height of the troubles was a British agent. Half of the IRA leadership and one quarter of the soldiers had a relationship with British Intelligence.You are so simple minded it is both hilarious and sad. London to a brick Baader Meinhof were cut from the same cloth although I have not researched them; the pattern is clear. Our criminal rulers crave armed opposition as it helps keep the people obedient and afraid. Understand that the deaths of every single person you named would not change anything at all. The system would… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
May 18, 2021 9:36 PM

James, yes, you have it correct.

Waldorf
Waldorf
May 19, 2021 9:51 AM

Nope. They try to infiltrate, often with success, but our rulers do not have that degree of control. I was reading The Lost Revolution, a book about the somewhat neglected Official IRA. A British diplomat commented on Roy Johnston, an Irish Communist academic who had had a lot of influence on the Officials but eventually left. The diplomat thought it was a pity as Johnston was an academic and intellectual and more “scribbling” in Ireland would have been a good thing, as opposed to violence. However, Johnston and those like him had earlier been demonised because of the link to the Soviet bloc. The Provos lacked the Eastern Bloc link, indeed some were fervently anti-Communist, and there are some indications that the British took their eye off the ball, because of the Cold War, and thought the Officials more dangerous. Certainly the internment raids of 1971 damaged the Officials more… Read more »

James Robertson
James Robertson
May 20, 2021 12:39 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

So in your infantile worldview the choices are:voting, terrorism or despair. That is truly hilarious.

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
May 19, 2021 7:34 PM

In the 1990s BBC documentary on Gladio (made when the Beeb still occasionally allowed proper investigative journalism), one of the principle interviewees, an imprisoned Italian from the Red Brigades, says convincingly that he didn’t know there were moles among them, and he wanted to know more. It’s one thing to say that radical revolutionary groups are infiltrated by intelligence services. It’s another to say they were created by them. It does indeed appear to be the case that CIA/NATO/Gladio were in on the Moro kidnapping. Certainly the Italian political class were afraid to do what they needed to do. Read the excellent book by Leonardo Sciascia on the matter. But this does not mean that the spooks created the group. The personal histories of the principal figures of the Brigate Rosse would indicate otherwise. (It’s nevertheless interesting that back in the 1990s, I think, ancient Socialist President Sandro Pertini pardoned… Read more »

Waldorf
Waldorf
May 20, 2021 12:23 PM
Reply to  Who D. Who

I don’t think the radicalisation of the 1960s that gave rise to such groups was a state fabrication. Over time the state tries to infiltrate groups and may get somewhere. Key leaders of the Red Army Faction were captured after the German authorities basically decided to lock down West Germany to find them. The murder (or suicide) of leading Red Army Faction prisoners in 1977 was another nail in the coffin, although it carried on at a diminished level in the 1980s. There is some evidence that the RAF was given a certain amount of support by the East German authorities, and the end of the GDR and the whole “death of Communism” atmosphere caused the group to wind up, but the assumption that the RAF was a state creation tout court is in my view merely lazy. I personally experienced something of the West German state’s attitude. I studied… Read more »

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
May 21, 2021 9:26 AM

If you are interested in Rote Armee Fraktion aka Bader Meinhof you might want to read Michael Buback, Der zweite Tod meines Vaters. He is the son of one of the prominent victims. Siegfried Buback, Attorny General, killed by a commando in 1977. Michael Buback found out the hard way, 30 years after the events, that at least some ‘terrorists’ were actually controlled by the agencies and that he had been lied to in cold contempt. Confirms your point.
By the way, one of the most vociferous lawyers for Bader Meinhof ‘terrorists’, at that time even suspected of having helped to smuggle the weapons into their cells, they shot themselves with, went on to become Minister of the Interior later. True story.

James Robertson
James Robertson
May 22, 2021 11:52 AM
Reply to  rechenmacher

That sounds very interesting, thank you.

hotrod31
hotrod31
May 17, 2021 3:11 PM
Reply to  jimbojames

He should be given the Pfizer vaccine … both doses, just to ensure that he gets the full box-n-dice of whatever they contain. I’m not falling for the old glucose, stunt-needle vaccination trickery they have all been pulling on ‘live-TV’ … the actual vaccine should be assesses by an independent adjudicator before it is given to Fauci.

mojo
mojo
May 17, 2021 10:52 AM

Oh Lordy. THAT Gen. Stan McC involved in the murder of investigative reporter Michael Hastings? Allegedly.

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 17, 2021 2:37 PM
Reply to  mojo

What about that defense minister of the UK, or someone at least in the investigative team who came out and said that they didn’t find Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, who got assasinated? I’m sorry but I forget both his name and title, but he was in a key role under Blair.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 17, 2021 5:47 PM

There’s a testament to a courageous whistleblower – neither you not I remember his name. No wonder very few do it. Ah, Robin Cook. Not forgetting whatsisname, the weapons inspector, come on, yes, David Kelly. Gone and forgotten RIP.

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 18, 2021 1:17 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

But their actions and their deaths still echo.

-CO
-CO
May 17, 2021 10:37 AM

According to the Mail on Sunday it was reported that Lockdowm -sceptic Rock Star Eric Clapton blasted vaccine safety ‘propaganda’ and claims that he had a ‘diastrous reaction’ to the Astrazenica Covid jab which made him fear he’d never play again! The severe reactions lasted 10 days after the first jab and he suffered further ‘disastrous reactions’ after the 2nd shot.
His hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning and pretty much useless for 2 weeks and he feared he’d never play again. Now eventually removed he said “I should have never have gone near the needle”.

-CO
-CO
May 17, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  -CO

Apologies for typo ‘removed’ should read RECOVERED -sorry Eric hope you keep playing for many years to come!

George Mc
George Mc
May 17, 2021 11:54 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

It’s a fair Rolling Stone article in that it permits Clapton to have his say. Although I noted this bit:

“In the letter, Clapton also discussed discovering “heroes” like anti-lockdown U.K. politician Desmond Swayne as well as similarly-minded (and some would argue conspiratorial) YouTube channels.”

I think it’s pretty obvious what opinion RS has here.

I also apoligise when I assumed Eric “sold out” over covid – although it was another OffG commenter who suggested that EC took the vax after his rebel bit. He didn’t. Hopefully he will be a figurehead for a growing movement of bullshit callers.

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 3:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The question is: why on Earth did he take the 2nd jab?

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 17, 2021 3:58 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Eric Clapton is notoriously racist and out of touch. Just because he is against the jabbings, for whatever reason he thinks they are being conducted, AFTER receiving one, doesn’t make him an ally on the merit that he’s famous. We don’t need such “allies”.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
May 17, 2021 4:09 PM

Oh shut up. We need every ally we can get. I’m not here for your obnoxious purity spiralling. And the accusation of “racism” has become so overused as to cease to have any real meaning.

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 17, 2021 6:04 PM
Reply to  Invisible Man

What would it do for your claims if you had someone untrustworthy claim the same things you do? We aren’t quoting Clapton here, we quote scientists who haven’t been bought off, journalists who haven’t been bought off,lawyers who haven’t been bought off. At best, Clapton will be overlooked as a voice if and when the resistance becomes a solidified majority, at worst, people with doubts will think that if Clapton opposes the measures and the forced jabbings (AFTER he got his) they will identify with him, so they will distance themselves.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
May 17, 2021 7:16 PM

Clapton is reporting the harshly negative side effects he experienced after taking the shot. He isn’t going around claiming to be a physician or a scientist, he’s simply informing people WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM – HIS OWN EXPERIENCE – as a consequence of taking the “safe” “vaccine.” That’s all he’s doing.

Which is a good thing, considering how many celebs have been enlisted to sell the shot to the public.

Clapton is eminently qualified to report his own symptoms. And that’s all he’s doing. He’s not parading around as an expert, which is more than I can say for Bill Gates, who despite never studying medicine and having no expertise is using his bank account to wag the entire dog of modern mainstream medicine.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 4:55 PM

What’s wrong with being racey?
OOOOh you meant racist? What does that mean? Does it mean that one discriminates against others who do not look like them?
“I don’t often discriminate, but when I do it’s based on content of character rather than face shape and skin tone.
That and RACE is an artificial construct with no scientific basis used to divide rather than unite, but go ahead and keep waving that flag.

Mark M
Mark M
May 18, 2021 5:06 PM

In what way is he racist and “out of touch”? Because he wants to, for very legitimate reasons, limit immigration into the UK? Should we just open all borders till the country is full of third worlders who think it is ok to have 10 children each, whose children then proceed to cry racism because their family is poor?

Malatok
Malatok
May 17, 2021 1:55 PM
Reply to  -CO

Not the same high obviously for dear “rebel” Eric as he was accustomed to getting back in his junkie “star” days with his beloved smack.

Once a junkie…always a junkie.
Now Van Morrison…that’s a whole different category of man.

stella
stella
May 17, 2021 10:02 AM

All the plans that the powerfull of the world ,throughout human history ,try to forced over people eventually turns to slaughter.The period which has been started on 9/11 with the war against “terrorism” is approching a critical point ,my intuition at least,the unforeeseable parameter of the covid 19 narrative ,is the vaccination’s deaths and permanent serious damages to human beings.This is unprecedentent in human history .

Corarden
Corarden
May 17, 2021 12:17 PM
Reply to  stella

It truly is something to behold, they just say ‘March off the cliff, because I am in charge, and you’re being selfish’ and off they go. Straight over without even thinking about it. I still can’t believe what I am seeing and hearing around me. But then I guess that is what many said a little over hone hundred years ago when they were ordered over the top.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 4:57 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Confuse, obfuscate, and terrorize. Then when the repetition of the desired narrative takes hold, very few questions are asked.
All over the top!

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 3:15 PM
Reply to  stella

Actually, there was an even greater culling of humanity. That was when people had the audacity to imagine they were free agents.

Only Noah survived.

Martha
Martha
May 18, 2021 12:07 AM
Reply to  Howard

Do you wonder how Noah felt after all of humanity and all of the animals were destroyed? Guilt, shame, horror? Indifference? How about whatever ‘God’ sent the flood? Any regrets or a twinge of conscience?

siamdave
siamdave
May 17, 2021 9:45 AM

‘Simultaneously, in a quasi-volte-face, the Biden administration has directed its resources inward toward domestic “terrorists”: that is, anyone who disagrees with its policies. This is especially aimed at those who question the COVID-19 story.’ – not really, the main aim – the ‘especially directed’ – is towards all those people who are brave enough to stay on their feet and call out the blatantly stolen election of 2020, which is going to truly be the end of American ‘democracy’ if allowed to stand – yes, American ‘democracy’ has been shaky for quite some time, as has ‘democracy’ in all our western English countries, but this is truly the coup d’etat – if this is allowed to stand, and the democrats allowed to establish their new voting laws, it will be ‘deep state forever’. the covid scam is serious,certainly, and those who dare question it attacked and silenced also – but this blatantly stolen… Read more »

siamdave
siamdave
May 17, 2021 10:03 AM
Reply to  siamdave

I might note also that there is a substantial ‘mainstream’ pushback against the covid crazies in the US going on right now – and guess who is doing the pushback??? The Trump supporters – de Santis in Florida leading the way, but several other Republican states are calling an end to the covid craziness, refusing to allow vaccine passports, telling people to ‘be free’, get rid of mask mandates, etc – very interesting times, as the ‘new republicans’ are becoming the party of people standing up for Freedom in the US and world.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 5:01 PM
Reply to  siamdave

Ther does seem to be considerable pushback on part of the populace, and perhaps a bit from their so called leaders. I often wonder about conflicts behind the scenes as in: folks in control somply dont agree about the best way to implement the creative destruction of the great reset…..
Regardless there is shift toward “FreeState vs. LockdownState”. The only say the people will have is voting via feet and wallets.

siamdave
siamdave
May 17, 2021 5:37 PM
Reply to  Chevrus

I think they’re going to have a pretty big say next year in the midterm elections – they saw how the elections last year were blatantly stolen, and I think they’re not going to let that happen next year …

Edwige
Edwige
May 17, 2021 10:09 AM
Reply to  siamdave

As soon as they can pin a mass shooting on a white nationalist expect things to kick off big time. There have been dozens of mass shootings in the recent spate since Biden’s election but not one by a white nationalist. They were getting really excited when they thought one in Colorado fitted the profile they wanted… until it turned out he didn’t.

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 3:23 PM
Reply to  Edwige

They don’t have to wait for the right profile – they simply create it on demand. So I would say it isn’t the right profile they’re waiting for – it’s the right group being mowed down.

Something like The Murrah Building in Oklahoma City (in 1995) takes a lot of planning. But it’s coming to a town near you just as soon as the perps get all the bugs worked out.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 5:03 PM
Reply to  Howard

Even better create the entire mass casualty event.
It’s so much easier than actually killing people which has real consequences.
Now that The Map (MSM) actually replaced The Territory (reality) there is nothing they wont try.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 17, 2021 3:06 PM
Reply to  siamdave

Hello siamdave: The mesmerized zombies have written off the 2020 “election” Too much to think about. >>> Time to order another new SUV, maybe a larger big screen, or perhaps a gaggle of 5G ready cell phones to fry your kids with. If you’re executive class in the pharmaceutical industry, you can do all of the above. Brag about it to your Hampton neighbors. Wash it down with some imported scotch..

There hasn’t been a real election in the US since the erasure of the Original 13th Amendment. (circa 1855) The selection of a FAKE president destroyed the Confederacy for European industrial interests, and the 14th Amendment enslaved the entire Nation.

Just to much to think about… Have another baby, and be sure to registrar it with the Social Security Administration, so the collateral is secured .

All facts that never see the light of day in State funded “schools”…

siamdave
siamdave
May 17, 2021 5:35 PM

the zombies may have written it off, but I think the 75++ million people who voted for Trump are far from finished, I think we’re in for a pretty interesting summer …

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 17, 2021 5:55 PM
Reply to  siamdave

What’s the difference between fascists and communists? Fascists kill foreigners and communists kill their own people. What if they’re in league? (merely a rhetorical question)

George Mc
George Mc
May 17, 2021 9:17 AM

The parallel between 9/11 and covid is illuminating. But I think the differences are even more revealing. With 9/11, the official account was naturally the only tale in town to begin with but eventually we started to hear about “conspiracy theories” – an obviously problematic term here since the official account itself was a conspiracy theory. But the aspect of this that made the most depressing impression on me was the propensity of the Left to reject alternative theories with disdain. Nevertheless, such alternatives were indeed mentioned and invariably ridiculed with that implied eye rolling tone so familiar from previous questionable events – most notably JFK. With covid, it seems strange to even refer to an “official account” because the seamless monolithic media machine has simply trundled obliviously over any discrepancies, oddities, complaints, questions etc. that don’t fit in with the account they are relentlessly pushing. Of course, there were… Read more »

stella
stella
May 17, 2021 10:04 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I agree with your PS.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
May 17, 2021 10:39 AM
Reply to  George Mc

George Mc, re your PS, another way in which Covid is different from 9/11 is that 9/11 was about the physical world, where things can be controlled more predictably (eg explosives to demolish buildings) and in a short timescale. In contrast, with Covid, and other plandemics, TPTB are up against the natural world, over which they think, in their utter ignorance, they can have dominion. In the long run, the evidence with glyphosate, GMOs, anti-biotics, and pharmaceuticals instead of holistic approaches to health, prove time and time again that nature always wins – eventually. It’s anyone’s guess as to what unintended consequences will emerge from attempting to use plandemics to control society.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
May 17, 2021 12:59 PM

Since the moderator has removed the link I included in my reply to George Mc, here’s a clue: search for’ zeitgeist the movie Part 2 – the [ ] myth’ and watch the 35 min explanation.

dr death
dr death
May 17, 2021 1:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

‘covid’ is 911 for the whole world ‘george’, the big totalitarian roll-out, as promised by the withered old governors many moons ago, this is where the hollow men consolidate their power grab…

all the ducks are in line, all the fake political fifth columnists are chanting the mantra, all the so called ‘armed forces’ staffed with compliant neo-liberals..

all the mad scientists are chomping at the bit to turn public spaces into laboratories..

and all of it ably financed by inter-generational ‘elitist’ families and the ‘financialists’..

logic is dead, love is dead, academia, media and the fourth estate resemble a gimp show at a gay club..

all that’s left is for the whole sorry edifice to come crashing down…

‘and we’ll be waiting’…

gordan
gordan
May 17, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

actors on the right actors on the left
a queer sort
jokers all
blackmailed sicko
all controlled
punch and judty show
babylon

Who D. Who
Who D. Who
May 17, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Excellent post.

Annette
Annette
May 17, 2021 3:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I think you last point is particularly important. For those of us not living in US or a country the US went to war against under the credo of a war on terror, we, and thus most in the world, continued for better or worse to live our usual lives after 9/11. This is also what happened with Nazism and WW2, again for better or worse, most in the world except some parts of Europe continued to live their usual lives.
This time there is nowhere to go, to escape. There is not even any way to escape and it is affecting all our lives. It is affecting us physically and mentally: our bodies are being manipulated. This before only happened to subgroups deemed to be worth torturing, but this time everyone is deemed worth torturing.

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 8:09 AM

Dumping apocalyptic shit on an audience eagerly awaiting their portion of daily doomsday scaremongering, so that they could for the umpteenth time reconfirm that yes, indeed, they’re fucking us over, is a tough job, but somebody has to do it. Day after fucking day, people flock to websites like this one to keenly devour whatever floats the boat of their masochistic urge to be fucking scared to death. To analyze from yet another angle how this and that motherfucker is after them. Enough already! I’ve read more analyses of all the things that are fucked up that the non-masochist can stomach in several lifetimes. Never nobody gets past the point of uttering in a solemnly warning voice that “people have to wake up now before it’s too late” (sic). But that’s rare, the “be scared, very scared” is much more common. There was an article here a few days ago… Read more »

stella
stella
May 17, 2021 10:12 AM
Reply to  Jacques

“There was an article here a few days ago about what we’ve learned from the past 12 months. Well, one thing people might have and should realize is that being a good citizen, obedient of the authorities, and fitting in with society, which is considered one of the most important virtues, especially in extremely conventional die-hard traditionalist countries like the UK or Canada and by extension other parts of the English-speaking world, is a road to hell. Conformism is what got the world where it’s at now.
Get off the fucking Internet. Life out there is different that how it looks through the prism of the horseshit in the media.”

TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!

mojo
mojo
May 17, 2021 10:55 AM
Reply to  Jacques

WTF you banging on about? I’m not scared. I’m spitting fuckin feathers.

Basher
Basher
May 17, 2021 11:36 AM
Reply to  mojo

Agree Mojo. I attended the Worldwide Rally for freedom in Nantes, France, on Saturday. Was great to be able to talk to other people !! There was around 200 there. ‘Dancer encore’ ….. Beautiful !!

mojo
mojo
May 17, 2021 12:09 PM
Reply to  Basher

Yeah Basher. I was at the Bologna one. Again. We’re not scared. We’re rising up baby.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 12:26 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Jacques … buddy … dood!
Tell us OG folks three things you’re doing Vis-a-vis your issue besides getting (sort of) off the Internet. Please … this is the right place. Folks here will adopt your practical suggestions.
Like Nike says, “Just do it!”

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

To begin with, kindly note that I’m not your buddy. Also, speak for your-fucking-self, not for some “folks” in some place. When I was a boy, I ran away from the Second World and ended up in a refugee camp. The naive me didn’t know better than start asking the other guys all sorts of questions about this and that and the other thing, before I was curtly told to shut the fuck up, for the place was infested with plants who eavesdropped on dimwits like me and reported anything of value to the totalitarian cunts back home. You, Tovarish Victor G., come across like one of them spook motherfuckers. Naturally, I ain’t telling you a fucking thing. Now, if you want some practical suggestions, I suggest that you quit your job as a spook and become a human. In the unlikely event that you’re not a spook, I suggest… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 1:45 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Oh geese, I didn’t realized J. That you were so righteously entitled.
Prosím, nezlob se na mě.
Also thanks for your compassionate suggestions.
Rant on and BOO!

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 4:13 PM
Reply to  Jacques

You just sound like an provocateur, and a vulgar one at that. Rip something off someone elses face….sure “buddy”… Maybe we should all grab rifles and march on DC… Kokesh much?

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 4:29 PM
Reply to  Chevrus

Provocateur … and a vulgar one on top of it ….

Somebody who dares not be like everybody else, run at the mouth about the same bullshit, rock the fucking boat, and swim against the current.

Must be eliminated and shut up pronto lest he upsets your indoctrination.

Look up the meaning of “vulgar” you pathetic conformist loser.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Naaaa just another whiney byatch

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 17, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  Jacques

You’ve yet to tell us what you’re doing practically to fight this con, Jacques, apart from swearing at a small audience of dissidents to get off their fucking arses. Are you off your fucking arse, doing some sort of practical resistance? When you can give realistic chapter and verse of what you’re doing, I’ll read you again. Till then, it’s skip-over time, I’m afraid. It gets very boring listening to someone swearing pointlessly at you.

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 3:20 PM

Yes, I am off my fucking arse and doing something.

If something “gets very boring” is reading, day after day, the same shit over and over and fucking over. The anticovidian whimpering is just about exactly the same as the covidian whimpering. The whining about the Great Reset is even worse – the enemy has a plan, a good one, the whiners have shit. Apart from the whining.

I don’t know if it’s done on purpose to keep people from doing anything, but this endless analyzing of how things are fucked up will surely not solve anything.

The least you could do is urge the authors of this website to publish constructive stuff or something that could instigate a debate about the future. Other than that we’re fucked, that is. If they don’t, then you’ll know that you’re being played. Kept in a loop of endless whining.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Then leave.

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 5:15 PM
Reply to  Chevrus

Tovarish Chevrus,

I’ll do whatever the fuck I wish, and whatever the fuck I do is none of your business. You like to stay in your bubble, whatever it is, you like to get a reassuring dose of predictable verbiage from your favorite interlocutors, fine by me. It’s your prerogative.

Nobody forces you to read or think about what I, or anybody else, write. Keep your head firmly stuck in your asshole.

Your prerogative.

Don’t fucking tell nobody what to do.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 8:47 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Leave or shaddup

Howard
Howard
May 17, 2021 3:40 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Okay, here comes my one and only cliche: The Pen Is Mightier Than The Sword. Nothing – let me repeat that: NOTHING – comes even close to words to not only dispel fears but to attack those dispensing such fears for their own gain. These articles you find so tediously masochistic are necessary because the battle is far from over. Long after you have ripped the masks off the faces of those who foolishly believe the bullshit, the belief itself will still be there lurking behind the mask. Words – maybe, just maybe – can achieve what hands can only hope to achieve. Words are not immediate, however. They may take months, even years, to achieve the desired effect. No one can say what particular combination of words spoken to a COVID True Believer may suddenly click, like the proverbial light going off in their head. What you can pretty… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 3:58 PM
Reply to  Howard

You’re wrong and I have experience to prove it, buddy. When I was a kid and teenager growing under a totalitarian regime, people were the very thing that people are doing here. Forever mouthing off about how fucked up things are, seeking yet another philosophical angle why, enumerating all the tricks the establishment employed against them. The establishment didn’t give a flying fuck. What I see here is destined for pretty much the same fate. I’m not necessarily disputing that the pen is mightier than the sword. But why don’t you ask yourself the question why people are kept in a vicious cycle of reiterating how fucked up things are. There is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, that would spur a debate about the future, an alternative ideology, anything worth pursuing. There is ZERO constructive debate. Could it be that it’s the purpose, eh? And even if it ain’t, what exactly… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 4:07 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Oh, so Howard is your buddy and I’m not? How’s that fair?

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 5:05 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Reasoning with the bipolar sociapath? Naaaa he’s just gonna keep doing it.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
May 17, 2021 4:26 PM
Reply to  Jacques

You make some good points, Jacques. I hear you. The articles that clearly explain the pseudo-scientific nature of the pandemic and the worthlessness of the vaccines have been a godsend. But the pure doom mongering articles like this one are not helpful, in my opinion. I get exasperated with articles like this one too. Because they contain nothing in the way of useful suggestions for how to fight back.

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 5:17 PM
Reply to  Invisible Man

That’s it mahn, exactly.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 7:56 PM
Reply to  Invisible Man

Well you’ve come to the right place. Good ole Jacques has a passel of suggestions … just ask.
BOO!

wardropper
wardropper
May 18, 2021 2:18 AM
Reply to  Jacques

You’re perfectly right, Jacques.
Now don’t be so aggressive about it.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 18, 2021 4:17 AM
Reply to  Jacques

RE: …teenager growing under a totalitarian regime…

I was born and live in the USA and I also grew up in a totalitarian regime. Maybe you were lucky, you knew it. Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben has said that if you live in a country and it can turn totalitarian on a dime, (like the US and the West has), then you already lived in a totalitarian country! The totalitarian country you lived in didn’t kill millions of innocent people and destroy the futures of many millions of others around the globe. My “free” country did.

Jacques
Jacques
May 18, 2021 6:07 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

The beauty of freedom is in the eye of the beholder, yes.

One needs to allow himself to fly out of the cage of societal conventions, restrictions, prohibitions, and ideological conditioning to envisage and experience real freedom to realize what true freedom is, or might be.

Ve haf a rare vindow of opprozunity (Hi Klaus!) to see that right now; if anything has demonstrated how restrictive the world we live in is, and has been, it’s been the last 12 months.

The non-idiot would reflect on such concepts as freedom, revise them, and set out in the direction of something better.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 18, 2021 6:43 PM
Reply to  Jacques

In the interview with CJ Hopkins the other day on Off-G, he says at one point that the German people have seriously reflected on their totalitarian past because they lost the war. Americans by contrast, (or more accurately the US government) didn’t lose so they have not reflected much upon and are usually blind to the genocide of the native population, slavery, countless military invasions, bombing campaigns, occupation, coups, and death squads, destabilization of most of Central and South America, of South East Asia, Indonesia, of the Middle East, of much of the African continent, of several Eastern European countries, and of any country that has sought or is seeking to chart their one path outside that of US dominance for more than 100 years. Michael Parenti has described the socialism of the Cold War era, of the USSR, as “siege socialism.” The character of the totalitarianism that you grew up… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
May 19, 2021 5:14 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I moved to the West when I was a teenager. Keep in mind that there was no Internet back then and before running away from home I knew just about nothing about what was in the store for me, what kind of life awaited me, how things would unfold. I assume that you’re an American, and to second what you’re saying, I’ve never felt more restricted than when I briefly lived in the US. And that’s decades ago. The way I remember it is the pigs everywhere, you always have to watch your back if they’re not after you. Plus, just about totally obedient population. People were even more docile in Canada, but the cops weren’t as bad. I would never think of the United States as of a free country. Maybe there are some free-minded people, like everywhere, but on the whole, the level of conformism is extreme and… Read more »

Annette
Annette
May 17, 2021 3:49 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I fully agree Jacques. Totally agree. Knowing the details do not help and is futile for most of us. As long as we understand the broad lines is enough. And that at least those of us like you do for some time now.
Cant remember where I read this about someone who had decided that he would never utter a negative thought anymore. It changed his life.
Still I can understand that commenters need a space to let off the pressure. But if one had a suspicious mind, one would think the aim with incessant doomsday articles is to keep people afraid, make them afraid, to neutralise them.

Jacques
Jacques
May 17, 2021 4:02 PM
Reply to  Annette

There you go.

I wouldn’t speculate on whether it’s intentional or not, but the people here – who obviously mean well – are caught in a vicious circle of complete negativism, if not nihilism, unable to formulate anything positive, humorous, optimistic, future-oriented.

I’m not saying that much of what is said here is wrong, but forever reiterating it will only make people feel more like shit and accomplish one BIG NOTHING.

dr death
dr death
May 17, 2021 8:34 PM
Reply to  Jacques

yet here you are…

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 17, 2021 10:55 PM
Reply to  Jacques

RE: “Get off the fucking Internet.”
Maybe, follow your own advise?

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 17, 2021 8:03 AM

I just don’t get why more people can’t see through the con. Here in Australia they still intone ”three new cases” over night without saying it took nearly 36,000 so called tests to ”find” them, so desperate are they to keep up the scam in a nation where nothing happened by pollies from every party and stripe go along with it.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 17, 2021 7:38 AM

The story of 9/11 needs very careful scrutiny and it has not been subjected to the scrutiny it most certainly needs despite 20 years having passed.

If we can see that a great deal of the story is false then the whole story needs to be scrutinised and only parts of the story have been scrutinised while some parts are accepted as true without any scrutiny whatsoever.

They told us:
— 19 terrorists armed with boxcutters hijacked four planes which all crashed
— Three planes crashed into buildings and one crashed in a field
— The crashing of the planes resulted in the deaths of 3,000 people and injury to 6,000

Which parts of the story have been scrutinised and shown to be either true or false?

jamie
jamie
May 17, 2021 7:57 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Also Building 7…

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 17, 2021 4:14 PM
Reply to  jamie

Building 6, US Customs….hollowed out from the inside, roof blown off…

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 17, 2021 8:04 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

And don’t forget the pristine passports that managed to survive a fire that supposedly brought down the towers

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 17, 2021 9:01 AM

They always rub it in our faces, Marilyn.
— Passports
— Pre-announcement of WTC-7’s collapse
— “Pull it” from Larry
— “Can you confirm it was Number 7 that just went in” from Brian Williams
— Terrorists turned up alive
— Hani Hanjour, alleged Pentagon pilot, allegedly cried when asked to do steep turns and stalls according to alleged flight instructor

and on and on … not to mention that the basic story itself which repudiates Newtonian physics and air defense protocols is completely unbelievable from first to last.

Patrick
Patrick
May 17, 2021 11:18 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

If you haven’t do so already I would suggest a thorough reading of “Where did the towers go?” by Judy Wood will answer most question about 9/11. At least as to WHAT happened, as to WHO and WHY that is of course debatable. In the Covid case again I think it is important to discover WHAT happened. And this is a tricky one because the way I see NOTHING MUCH happened. It is above a media hoax and that is why I think a lot of ‘alternative’ people trying to dig into ‘bio-weapons’ either deliberate or by accident just causes more mis-direction for the most part. In that way it is also part of the move from ‘false flags’ (where real death and terror occurs but is blamed on the wrong perpetrator) to ‘hoaxes’ where it is all an acting job with media complicity. Take the difference between say 9/11… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 17, 2021 1:38 PM
Reply to  Patrick

What makes you believe in real deaths for 9/11, Patrick?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 17, 2021 2:01 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Try to think in real world terms. Even if some deaths were faked, as you claim, in order to bolster the numbers, the chance that three massive buildings could be brought down using tonnes of explosives in crowded downtown Manhattan (ever been there? I used to live there) and result in no one getting killed or injured is just unreal.

If you’re going to do an operation like 9/11 people are going to die, even IF you evacuate all the buildings. That’s as inevitable as life itself.

I wish you could be less didactic and more nuanced on this topic, because a lot of what you say when you aren’t talking 9/11 is fresh and interesting.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 17, 2021 8:00 PM

Thank you Sophie for your thoughtful comment.
it just occurred to me that Petra might be two different persons … one for 911 matters and another for other stuff.
That would neatly explain the dissonance by simply applying Occam’s Razor.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 1:28 AM

Sophie, I’d like to make the point that I didn’t quickly come to the conclusion that death and injury were faked, not at all. In fact, after four long years of study when the realisation finally hit, I face-palmed massively and asked myself how it could have taken so long when I’d woken up to the complete fakery of Sandy Hook, Manchester bombing, Westminster and London bridges and a few others. I kicked myself – how could it have taken so long … but I know the answer. The power of propaganda. It’s funny how people talk about propaganda as if their understanding of its existence makes them immune to it but when I finally awoke to staged death and injury I realised how great a victim I was of it. I was far more a victim of the special propaganda campaign targeted to the anticipated disbelievers of the 19… Read more »

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 18, 2021 8:32 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

You TOTALLY missed the point. 100% failed to get any part of what I said. OK. I get it. You think there are examples of staged deaths. You have said that a zillion times. No need to say it again or reiterate your personal journey YET AGAIN. The point you missed is even IF they tried to minimize or eliminate all deaths the logistics of blowing up three massive buildings in downtown Manhattan would make that impossible unless they literally evacuated all the people below – say – Canal Street. Which would mean the entire financial district and surrounding residential areas. If they blow up those buildings while the residents of lower Manhattan are going about their normal Tuesday morning business – some of those people are going to die or be injured. And many more will end up breathing in the dust and so die later. The fact you… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 12:45 PM

Sophie, let’s see if we can get agreement here:

Do you agree that the official story states that no one died in WTC-7 or its environs when the building collapsed?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 18, 2021 3:32 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Have you been diagnosed as being on the autistic spectrum by any chance?

I’m not trying to insult you, my younger brother is autistic and very smart. His over-literal, over-simplified and obsessive interpretation of certain things reminds me of you.

I don’t need a catechism. I don’t need another repetition of your beliefs. I’m not saying you’re wrong when you claim that deaths were faked.

ok? Do we get that?

I’m saying it would be impossible to do what happened that day in a crowded city and not kill or injure anyone – even if you wanted to avoid it.

I am not denying or rejecting your theory of faked death. I am modifying it with real world considerations you can’t just ignore because you NEED things to be simple and binary.

Get off the OCD carousel you’re riding and deal with what I’m actually telling you.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 4:11 AM

Yes, I hear what you’re saying, Sophie, but I disagree. You claim impossibility but your claim is in the realm of speculation and comes from a sense of incredulity, there is no evidence that it would have been impossible, it is simply your belief. Belief is never a thing to base an argument on that requires evidence, especially when there is evidence in overwhelming supply that contradicts that belief. I also reject your notion that I base my claim on simply my belief rather than the evidence. What the evidence clearly shows: — Every single – I mean EVERY SINGLE injured person shown to us of the alleged 6,000 who were injured – is not convincing. Every single one and some are very obviously faking it. Another commenter, Claret, gave a link to Marlene Cruz who is most ridiculously conducting an interview with her head raised while in a hospital… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 19, 2021 5:10 AM

Just to add: it hasn’t occurred to me before surprisingly but if the perps “cheated” by showing us very convincing evidence of their psyops you wouldn’t see me for dust. I really would be screwed as I mention above. If evidence were presented where you could point and say “that really, really looks like a dead body” or ” that really, really looks like a genuinely injured person” I would have no place on OffG pages or anywhere else that psyops are discussed. I’m lazy, I’m very much the person who doesn’t move from their computer. If I had to get up off my chair and go interview people etc I’d be out, no way would I be doing that. I’m not really an investigator or researcher type person, I’m much more a simple analyst – I just join the dots and what I find baffling is that to me… Read more »

Patrick
Patrick
May 17, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Petra, I guess what Sophie – Admin 1 says here I basically agree with. As to the actual number of 3,000 it is a matter of taking it on faith I suppose. But I do agree with you SO much of what we were told about 9/11 the question arises why believe any of it?

Reminds me Andrew Johnson who worked closely with Judy Wood got to the point where he went to NY so he could see for himself and those towers were indeed gone. They were he reported.

I think the distinction between ‘false flags’ and ‘hoaxes’ is useful and it seems as their techniques became more refined they preferred hoaxes. Like I said I see Covid as pure hoax

wardropper
wardropper
May 17, 2021 9:30 PM
Reply to  Patrick

“Hoax” is far too polite a word to describe such a horrific crime as covid.
You don’t hang people at Nurnberg because they perpetrated a ‘hoax’.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 18, 2021 1:49 AM
Reply to  Patrick

Patrick, pls see my comment above to Sophie.

I’ve written the post, 9/11: False flag or psyop, that might interest you
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/911-false-flag-or-psyop