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The Propaganda War (Part II)

CJ Hopkins

The column you are about to read is propaganda. Yes, that’s right … propaganda. It isn’t political satire or commentary, or objective news or information, or unbiased, verified scientific fact. It is propaganda, pure and simple.

That isn’t a confession, a disclaimer, or a warning. I am not ashamed of writing propaganda. Most everything you see and read on the Internet, and in newspapers, and on television, and in textbooks, and novels, and on advertising billboards, and everywhere else, is propaganda. There is nothing wrong with propaganda. The question is who is doing it, and what they are doing it for. Here’s the definition in the Cambridge Dictionary:

“information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people’s opinions”

That is what the column you are reading is … an attempt to influence people’s opinions. Of course, that isn’t all it is. Nothing is ever only one thing. But it is absolutely propaganda. And so is everything else that you will read today.

I’m terribly sorry if this comes as a shock, but there is no “objective” fantasy-land in which no one is trying to persuade you of anything or pressure you or otherwise influence you to do something. It does not exist, this “objective” dreamworld, where “authoritative sources” report “the facts,” where “the facts” are “verified” by “neutral” “fact checkers,” where ex-NSA and CIA spooks are hired as commentators by MSNBC and CNN because they care about “the truth,” where “science” is immune to manipulation. This fantasy is the alibi of authoritarians, cult leaders, and assorted other control freaks, and the people they have brainwashed into believing in it.

Everyone — and I do mean literally everyone — is trying to persuade or convince you of something. Your friends, family, colleagues, your boss, advertisers, lobbyists, government officials, the media, artists, teachers, doctors, journalists, bloggers, Twitter bots, etc.

This isn’t cause for paranoia. It’s a natural part of human social behavior. It is happening right now as you read this sentence. I’m trying to convince you of something. In a moment, I’m going to urge you to do something.

This is how we create “reality,” collectively, by persuading and influencing each other, or allowing ourselves to be persuaded and influenced, mostly by powerful ideological forces that do not care about us, and just want to control us, but also by each other, moment by moment, with every word we speak and every action we take.

Every choice we make is an advertisement, a political statement, a profession of faith … a small contribution to a work of art we are collectively creating, which is what “reality” is. You and I are doing it right now. I’m trying my best to influence you, and you’re deciding whether to let me do that, whether you trust me … whether we share the same “reality.”

This process (or this negotiation, if you will) is never-ending, and there is no escape from it. Pretending that it isn’t happening — that we are not creating “reality” together with every choice we make — is childish, and is particularly dangerous at a time like this, when a new form of totalitarianism is being rolled out all across the world.

This is not the time to retreat into fantasies. As I noted in Part I of this piece, we are in a propaganda war, and we are losing. GloboCap is manufacturing a new “reality,” a pathologized-totalitarian “reality.” Either you accept it, and conform to it, or you oppose it. Those are the choices. There are no other choices.

All right, now that we’ve got that straight, let’s get down to the propaganda at hand, and what it is that I am urging you to do.

I think the young people call this a “meme.” It is something everyone can do. Make a tweet or a post like this, with your name, face, country, and details, whatever restrictions apply to you. Use the hashtag. Circulate it.

Encourage others to do the same. Don’t even mention the virus or the “vaccines.” Focus on the totalitarianism. Make it visible. Make it personal. We need the New Normals to see the faces of the people they are demonizing because we won’t convert to their new “reality.”

No, it will not make the slightest difference to the fanatics, but most of them are not fanatics. Most of them are simply scared and confused, and utterly mindfucked … as in their brains are not working. Literally. They are no longer able to think. Challenge them, and they will either become aggressive or start robotically repeating propaganda at you like the members of an enormous cult.

Anyone who has interacted with them (and I have a feeling that you probably have) knows that they are totally unreachable with facts, argumentation, and basic reasoning, not to mention common sense, which is why I have mostly given up on that and am focusing on propaganda.

Propaganda programmed these people, and propaganda can deprogram them … or at least it can interfere with their current programming, even if just for a fleeting moment, maybe even enough to start them thinking, which might lead them to questioning the official “reality” … which, as any cult deprogrammer will tell you, is the first step toward disengaging from the cult.

Yes, it is just a picture and some words, but, if you doubt the power of visual propaganda, consider what GloboCap has achieved in the relatively short span of 17 months. They have imposed a new official ideology (in other words, a new “reality”) on societies all across the world.

Seriously, think about that for a moment … they have literally implemented a new global “reality.” They have done this primarily with propaganda, much of it visual propaganda, which functions on a primal, instinctual level.

They inundated the public with images of disease, hospitals, patients on ventilators, body bags being stacked in death trucks, mass burials, and people dropping dead in the streets. They forced everyone to wear medical-looking masks and to perform an ever-changing series of pointless, paranoid compliance rituals to generate an atmosphere of “deadly contagion.”

Basically, they transformed the entire planet into an inescapable pandemic-theater production in which the terrorized performers are also the audience. They did this mostly with visual propaganda, images and observed behavior. (The nonsense the New Normals robotically recite at us isn’t meant to believed; it is meant to be memorized and repeated verbatim, like religious dogma, or a customer-service-representative’s script.)

And, if you think your tweet or post doesn’t matter … well, it’s now about 48 hours since I posted mine, and thousands of people all over the world are joining in with tweets and posts of their own. (OffGuardian is collecting some of them here and inviting people to add their voices.)

Twitter is suppressing the #NewNormal hashtag and slapping “sensitive content” warnings on the tweets. Fanatical New Normals, furious at being shown the faces of the people they are demonizing, are shrieking insults, death wishes, threats, mockery, and other vitriolic abuse at us, and demanding that the authorities censor us, and desperately attempting to disappear us by adding the hashtag to random gibberish.

That wouldn’t be happening if our voices didn’t matter.

What we’re doing is basically an online version of classic non-violent civil disobedience. We are disrupting the new official narrative, the official ideology, the official “reality,” even if just marginally, and just for a moment. Join in. Ignore the fanatical New Normals shrieking hatred at us on the Internet. Interrupt the “pandemic-theater” performance. Make the new totalitarianism visible. Make it personal … for them, and for us.

If you need a reminder of what the stakes are, here is a recent photo of some lovely graffiti from an unknown location somewhere in New Normal Germany. For those of you who don’t read German, it translates as … “GAS THE UNVACCINATED.

CJ Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing and Broadway Play Publishing, Inc. His dystopian novel, Zone 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. Volumes I and II of his Consent Factory Essays are published by Consent Factory Publishing, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Content, Inc. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

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NoMadSpreader
NoMadSpreader
Aug 20, 2021 11:07 PM

It’s a great article, so I’m sorry to be pedantic, but if what you are writing is propaganda then what the they are writing is technically ‘agitprop’. (A portmanteau of agitation and propaganda). The Cambridge Dictionary definition is lame. But Britannica is quite interesting…

“..Vladimir Lenin stated that the propagandist, whose primary medium is print, explains the causes of social inequities such as unemployment or hunger, while the agitator, whose primary medium is speech, seizes on the emotional aspects of these issues to arouse his audience to indignation or action. Agitation is thus the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby to mold public opinion and mobilize public support. Propaganda, by contrast, is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate the educated and so-called “enlightened” members of society, such as party members..”

noname
noname
Aug 20, 2021 8:00 PM

Obviously, Tripper takes sides. Why don’t you look for an alternative platforms?

Thom
Thom
Aug 20, 2021 7:09 PM

I wouldn’t use Twitter on principle. Let them and their government bosses sink in their own lies. Real civil disobedience would be a good idea where appropriate – but here in the UK the whole covid coup has pretty much collapsed anyway, so there isn’t much to be disobedient about.

CJ Hopkins
CJ Hopkins
Aug 20, 2021 10:02 AM
niko
niko
Aug 20, 2021 12:17 AM

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
― Edward Bernays, Propaganda

In a society of equals, or a real democracy, there’d not be much reason to qualify dictionary definitions of propaganda which make it synonymous with simple persuasion, and part of rhetorical arts of influencing others which may be openly and freely considered, and accepted or rejected. But when society is rooted in relations of power, dictionaries themselves can be depositories of propaganda, in the sense of obscuring the history of language as that’s been determined by such social history, and transmitting meanings of words which erase memory and enforce false consciousness. When we’re not living on optimally level fields of knowledge, but subject to institutions controlling information for anti-democratic purposes, each of us is far less an autonomous individual engaged in public discourse than prey to powerful interests.

Bernays’ rendering above gets us closer to the truth of why propaganda is more accurately understood in colloquial terms as synonymous with lying, if not part of sciences of deception engineering entire populations into captive conditions. Few better authoritative sources can be found than this pioneer of modern ‘public relations’ and other Orwellianisms from the lexicon of newspeak to illustrate how lies repeated often enough become truths by which we live.

There’s the rub. We’re already more or less living lies as subjects to empires of deceit which can condition us to further entrapment. Though there certainly is not, nor should be, some Ministry of Truth performing fact checks to presumably protect the public from mis/disinformation, critical inquiry can obtain objective criteria, like actual evidence based science, to demonstrate how, from predictive mathematical models and PCR tests to ‘vaccines’ and ‘immunity’ passes, the game is rigged. Critical consciousness, however, is not spontaneous or automatic, but an extension of learned practices like literacy, research, and analysis cultivated by self-governing individuals forming an active citizenry who stand as a democratic check upon the “responsible men” and rule of professional expertise managing the “manufacture of consent” for the “bewildered herd” (Walter Lippmann).

Behavior determines consciousness, and if human habit has long been conformed to living with lies, as from earliest age under industrial schooling and into adulthood under tyrannies of workplaces and idle pursuits of consumerism, there’s already been well established the kind of thoughtlessness with which people may be marched into the Brave New Normal, with little to no awareness of or concern for the dead end to which we’re all being directed. And if there is enough of an uncritical mass of this covidian cult, ritually following the science of compliance as to make its conduct mandatory for society, they will take us along with them.

That’s why we who are awake (and not woke) must root our resistance in real relations of democracy which practically embody, in the public world beyond the virtual world of ‘social media’, autonomous zones promoting alternatives not only to the New (ab)Normal but also to other longstanding forms of authoritarianism and cult consciousness which have prepared the ground for fascism to now rear its ugly head. Nothing less than revolutionary movements radically reforming the conditions for a free humanity is called for at this time when the very existence of humanity is at stake. The “masters of mankind” (Adam Smith), or the monsters attempting to impose their techno-totalitarian psychopathy upon us, aren’t going away without a long struggle to throw monkey wrenches into their works and disrupt their plans, and eventually build a new society within the shell of the old to definitively shatter its hold upon us.

Steve
Steve
Sep 9, 2021 4:22 AM
Reply to  niko

Thank you

InnerCynic
InnerCynic
Aug 19, 2021 5:45 PM

Two of my old family friends freaked out and got jabbed because they simply let the fear overrun their good sense. I no longer bother in warning them of anything. If after a lifetime you can be so easily duped and refuse to listen to logic then there’s nothing left to say. You’re on your own. I only have time to save myself and those closest to me.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Aug 20, 2021 11:19 AM
Reply to  InnerCynic

Apart from the odd barbed comment, I have adopted the same approach. Let sudden death, painful disability, chronic bad health and terminal illness be their teachers.

Ort
Ort
Aug 20, 2021 8:40 PM

I’m not religious, and am “agnostic” on the question of an afterlife, but your comment reminds me of a Garrison Keillor piece, “Three Marriages”.

The (fictional) piece quotes a letter written by Mrs. Ruth Luger, a respectable Lutheran woman on the road; she’s writing to a friend about her husband’s awful cousins. The writer and her spouse took a long trip to watch the cousins participate in an automobile race; Ruth writes:
________________________________________________

I was glad they lost the race. It’s a terrible thing to say but I hoped they’d crash and maybe knock some sense into themselves. They are almost forty and still in their teens and I doubt they will know much more until the day they die, though the day after that they may find out a lot of things.
________________________________________________

I thought of this quote because I suspect that even after suffering the dire consequences you mention, if they actually end up expiring on a deathbed, most victims will piously proclaim their continued faith in the injections. Consciously or not, they will blame Fate (bad luck) or their own idiosyncratic defects or weaknesses for their plight. 

Their doctors will uniformly disavow any connection between their inexplicable ailments and untimely demises, and the survivors will most likely echo this conclusion and vax affirmation.

Howard
Howard
Aug 19, 2021 5:02 PM

I’ve been trying to warn people for over 25 years, in one forum after another, but no one was paying attention. Now, with a deadly vaccine stalking us all, everyone and his brother finally sees the threat.

The moment – the very moment – when the Courts (at least in the US) gave employers the right to require drug testing of their employees, bodily integrity ceased.

“Oh but that’s different,” people will say; “that’s something we have to eliminate from our bodies anyway, so it doesn’t count.”

YES IT DOES COUNT!!!!!

Because it’s OUR pee, not theirs. It only “becomes” their property once it goes down the toilet.

I’m afraid 25 years later it’s just a bit too late to unflush the toilet. We lost our bodily integrity when we pooh-poohed our pee.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 19, 2021 3:28 PM

Good on CJ Hopkins for pointing this out. It’s obvious every exchange between human beings is a sort of propaganda situation, and I’ve known this for many decades. Seems most civilians narrow their propaganda definition to something the “government” or media does. But of course, their definition is also propaganda.

Strange, yet common. Sort of like “common sense”…

Jan
Jan
Aug 19, 2021 3:12 PM

I disagree that the new normal propagandized can be converted. Their minds are fractured and are incurably wounded. They will never recover and will become the very contagion designed to eliminate the resistance—us. You don’t think that the dragon has not planned for resistors? They will use the braindead as the biological nemesis. The vaxx is said to only suppress symptoms. That translates to the vaxxed immune systems being deadened as symptoms are a sign your immune system is working. Symptoms are not the disease but if the vaxxed are now asymptomatic, they could be harboring a contagion and they and we will not be able to discern that. The unvaxxed will never be asymptomatic carriers, only the vaxxed will be.

Paul Scally
Paul Scally
Aug 19, 2021 2:37 PM

It’s scary stuff, everybody I know just parrots what they hear on the TV or read in the newspaper. I mean I can predict exactly what they are going to say before they finish speaking. There’s a pivot now from the virus to the climate change narrative, it’s all fear-based news though. Meanwhile, there is a silent war going on with cash and cash transactions. All of our main banks are now refusing cash lodgements unless the lodger has a bank account also. Also, new laws have been implemented capping the limit on the size of cash transactions between individuals. I think this pandemic is all about getting people onto digital passports and when that is achieved, they will move us over to a digital currency, and then during any future lockdowns, your card or smartphone won’t work outside whatever lockdown limit is currently in place. Its game over then, you are a slave.

Claret
Claret
Aug 19, 2021 6:42 PM
Reply to  Paul Scally

‘I think this pandemic is all about getting people onto digital passports
and when that is achieved, they will move us over to a digital
currency, and then during any future lockdowns, your card or smartphone
won’t work outside whatever lockdown limit is currently in place. Its
game over then, you are a slave.’

….
Yes Paul. I have always used cash in shops,bars etc.
I also wonder if the ‘corona test programmes’ are about collecting DNA profiles. Surely at least some of those tests are registered to a particular name in a database somewhere?

Karry
Karry
Aug 19, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  Claret

They’ve been collecting DNA data for a long time, Claret, under false pretences.

The Human Genome Project – presented as a good thing.

Family tree?

Find your relatives and ancestors (with a subscription and a 150€ DNA test) anywhere in the world with Ancestry.com/123 and me/and many more.

I’m sure that it’s, purely, co-incidental that William Wales just happened to do the same thing at the very same time.

The so-called, ‘tests’, are utterly random and don’t test for anything at all.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Aug 20, 2021 12:36 AM
Reply to  Karry

Yes, but not with such a huge data set like the global attempt at stealing everyone’s heredity.

Edith
Edith
Aug 20, 2021 8:15 AM
Reply to  Karry

Well I did find some long lost rellies so it works at some level. May not really tell me much about where I came from in nationality terms…

Howard
Howard
Aug 20, 2021 3:01 PM
Reply to  Karry

They’ve been collecting everyone’s DNA since at least the mid-90s – ever since drug testing and collecting urine samples became de rigueur. It may be more difficult to collect DNA from urine – but where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Edith
Edith
Aug 20, 2021 8:14 AM
Reply to  Claret

Oh that is a given. Our state premiers father is front shadow for a Chinese mob collecting and I am laying bets every test in qld has ended up there…it seems the Chinese have a deep interest in collecting DNA…said to be the new medical frontier….US just had some senate hearing which includes questions about this if anyone is interested…

Karry
Karry
Aug 19, 2021 7:12 PM
Reply to  Paul Scally

That’s exactly what it’s all about.

I’ve been informed by my bank that unless I do on-line banking, I will not be able to make any on-line purchases after September.

My friend old me, today, that he went to pay 10€ into his account…and he was asked to account where it came from!

Pat McCarthy
Pat McCarthy
Aug 20, 2021 9:10 AM
Reply to  Karry

I could not understand why my local bank was so mismanaged. When the customer demand was at its greatest, the staffing was at its lowest. Surely they must have seen these patterns and put extra staff on at these times. Silly me.The more inconvenient it becomes, the more i am likely to do my banking online. Then the branch will close. We must all use cash whenever we can , and if we can stand it, use local branches.

NickM
NickM
Aug 20, 2021 7:14 AM
Reply to  Paul Scally

“Meanwhile, there is a silent war going on with cash and cash transactions.’

Bye bye Con-19. Hello Con-B3.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 20, 2021 9:26 AM
Reply to  Paul Scally

It’s absolutely an economic operation with hints of depopulation thrown in

Jane
Jane
Aug 19, 2021 1:46 PM

As I see it: –
Mathematically it’s not possible to reach the absolute; aim for accurate instead – atom was smallest particle imaginable, its discovery revealed that there’s smaller – description of atom fine-tuned from ‘smallest’ to ‘small’.
Truth, whole truth and nothing but truth to best of our knowledge and belief at time allows learning, progress. ‘The truth’ doesn’t.
Right/wrong is binary. Life’s continuum allows partly right, neither completely right nor completely wrong – all parties improve if learn from others.
Propaganda and persuasion are different amounts of intentional use of words to control others and fails to accept its own human fallibility. We don’t know it all.
Bias transmits messages unintentionally. Awareness of bias can reduce it. An illustration: –
Initially my sibling and I each told other all we’d heard and knew about jabs – putting info. on table like young kids playing with a jig-saw puzzle, each random piece face-up, except neither made any attempt to join up any of the pieces – each leaving it to other to do so on their own. Collaborating on collecting as many pieces as we could – more data, more reliable decision.
Immense care with which we each chose our words incidentally loudly conveyed – avoiding influencing other’s decision, couldn’t cope if persuaded other to do something that turned out to be detrimental to them. I doubt either had previously been aware of the strength of that feeling.
Later on, we each guessed we’d made different decisions and discussed our different situations i.e. different decisions could be valid so acceptable if they were. Only one has had jab, neither’s commented. I guess each is hoping we’ve both got it right. If each does so, all are safe.
As people are neither clones nor computers, same for all cannot be safe for all. Sameness is persuasion’s, propaganda’s aim and fails to respect others; that rudeness gets rejected.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Aug 19, 2021 12:18 PM

Killed

A 23 year old Irish footballer has just been killed by the clot shot. Bleeding in the brain.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Aug 19, 2021 12:47 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Is there a link to this?

Build Back Botter
Build Back Botter
Aug 19, 2021 3:44 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Clot shot. Perfect. We should call it Clotted rather than Covid.

Niki
Niki
Aug 19, 2021 10:26 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham
Edith
Edith
Aug 20, 2021 8:17 AM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

43 yr old woman dropped dead in street in my nearest city…blood clots. I bet she rush off and had vax last week when they did lockdown

gorden
gorden
Aug 19, 2021 12:12 PM

The Taliban may be “more reasonable this time round, the top of the British army has claimed

they have always been reasonable as long as you pay them

how many brits have died or yank since 2014
this was not a war or counter insurgency like yemen
the afghans where paid not to shoot
the brits in helmand paid cash large amounts

how many of this new kabul bull regime spent time as cia asset in doha
spent time in gitmo being reprogrammed
had jobs as us military targeting intel types

no talk about covid just new saigon

libyan arms for syrian wars

usa gladio hardware left behind for russian iranian shenanigans
low level operations

isis al cia d will work in the border areas
the meat grinder must go on

barbera lerner spectors machine needs refugee by the million
mongrel soup exodus

what happened to the central bank gold
puff it’s gone

Stump
Stump
Aug 19, 2021 11:49 AM

Propaganda or insightful and accurate commentary which will be watched by millions of people ?

Stump
Stump
Aug 19, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Stump

How did the link get changed ?
It’s supposed to be an interview with Lara Logan.

InnerCynic
InnerCynic
Aug 19, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  Stump

Well, didn’t they softball the crimes of those Pakistani IT workers who conveniently in Congress spied upon everyone?

InnerCynic
InnerCynic
Aug 19, 2021 6:02 PM
Reply to  Stump

I’ve said as much to my associates. Just like the plandemic…. we are being played.

Ort
Ort
Aug 19, 2021 8:50 PM
Reply to  Stump

The first link is now Lara Logan. I don’t have the technical understanding to explain it, but now and then this platform somehow scrambles video URLS– meaning that, in musical-chairs fashion, someone else’s video winds up sitting in your “chair”.

As here, eventually it fixes itself. But if one isn’t aware of this glitch, it is perplexing indeed– a perfect setup for an “Am I losing my mind?” moment.

Build Back Botter
Build Back Botter
Aug 19, 2021 11:42 AM

There is no more delusional a world than that of the stock market, where the gamblers never lose. So if this “most detached from reality” class is leading the world, of course we are going to be faced with creations of their collectively deluded minds.

Two economies. Two sets of rules.
“Rich and poor are actually living in two different economies, which operate by different rules. Most ordinary people live in a world where a dollar is a dollar. Most rich people live in a world of what financial pundit Jerry Goodman, writing under the pseudonym Adam Smith, called “supermoney,” where assets have been “financialized” (that is, able to participate in the betting economy) and are valued today as if they were already delivering the decades worth of future earnings that are reflected in their stock price. 

Whether you are an hourly worker or a small business owner, you live in the dollar economy. If you’re a Wall Street investor, an executive at a public company compensated with stock grants or options, a venture capitalist, or an entrepreneur lucky enough to win, place, or show in the financial market horse race, you live in the supermoney economy. You get a huge interest-free loan from the future.

The problem is that government policy is biased in favor of supermoney. The mandate for central bankers around the world is to keep growth rates up without triggering inflation. Since the 2009 financial crisis, they have tried to do this by “quantitative easing,” that is, flooding the world with money created out of nothing. This has kept interest rates low, which in theory should have sparked investment in the operating economy, funding jobs, factories, and infrastructure. But far too much of it went instead to the betting economy.

Stock markets have become so central to our imagined view of how the economy is doing that keeping stock prices going up even when companies are overvalued has become a central political talking point. Any government official whose policies cause the stock market to go down is considered to have failed. This leads to poor public policy as well as poor investment decisions by companies and individuals.”

It’s time to pop the bubble of grand delusion and finally do away with the artificially-propped up betting ‘economy”.

richard
richard
Aug 19, 2021 11:30 AM

To me, propaganda is political information that is so one sided or distorted that it is tantamount to lies.
Dictionary definition? Pah!
When the WHO can re-define the definition of what a vaccine is or what a pandemic is, you know what the dictionary is worth.
Try Wiki on anything controversial and see how far you get…

Incidentally, I looked up the definition of “opinionated” once ( cos’ I think people with no opinions are dead from the neck up) and got about five dictionaries come up (on the net) each with a different take on it.
So it seems to me that the definition of “opinionated” is a matter of opinion…

Annette
Annette
Aug 19, 2021 11:13 AM

To the readers and Off-Guardian:
Is this information correct https://www.fromrome.info/2021/08/16/in-italy-the-vaxx-is-no-longer-legally-approved-for-use/
It would seem that the vaccines have become illegal in Italy on Aug. 7. Is this true? Is this definitive or temporary, ie are they going to or have they revoted to extend their approbation?
If its definitive, then what are the implications on other EU countries?  And also on others?

If its definitive its extremely important. So Id be grateful if any of you know anything about this and what you think.

Karry
Karry
Aug 19, 2021 6:50 PM
Reply to  Annette

I’ve read the article in your link and clicked on the Italian paper. Firstly, I have to say that my Italian is very rusty (and mostly conversational) and I do not know the status of the institution which published the paper.

But, from what I can make out, the, ‘Agenzia Italiana del Farmaco’, have authorised two prophylactic cocktails for the treatment of, ‘COVID-19’.

Legally, the existence of alternative treatments should mean that the emergency authorisation of the so-called, ‘vaccines’, is nul and void…however, it would seem that the proposed alternatives are also, ‘authorised’, rather than, ‘approved’.

I have no idea how that works – do they cancel each other out?

Anyway, I went on to investigate the two new cocktails. All four of the products are monoclonal anti-bodies, ie, more synthetic bio-tech. They are easy to find on-line and they don’t sound all that different to the, ‘vaccines’, to me. You can look for yourself to see who can receive the, ‘treatment’ (only un-jabbed or one dose), and the list of side-effects.

Incidentally, the bottom comment on that article was in Italian. He or she expressed no confidence, citing the fact that the biological factor (the blood) would, already be contaminated.

I’m only guessing here, but, I reckon they’ve realised that they’ve hit a wall with the injections…and this is the next move.

Annette
Annette
Aug 20, 2021 8:05 AM
Reply to  Karry

Thanks a lot Karry. This was very useful. In fact there are rumours in Nov. they are putting an end to vaccination, in favour of other treatments, which may not be forced on people (they, as you say, will not be particularly good ones, but they wont be enforced). But somehow I dont think this will be the end of the dictatorship, and certainly not to pcr tests, that may become more compulsory. In what form it will continue is to be seen. Since you are in France, in case you don’t know: they’ve omitted excluded saliva tests in the new laws, so in case you do need the pass, you can get it through these tests. That is what we are advising anyone who will be forced to test every 3 days from September. So find a place in your region willing to this test. Your local Res. network will have a list. There are at least 2 labs where I am who are willing.

BubbaMac
BubbaMac
Aug 20, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  Annette

Taking these tests is furthering the cults agenda

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 19, 2021 10:47 AM
Edith
Edith
Aug 19, 2021 11:38 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Looks real. But of course they don’t mention that the govt has banned the treatment of ivermectin etal. They much prefer to just let people die so they can make ads like that….this is where we are at…perhaps someone can give me a clue why it is better to let people die than treat them in a supposedly modern hospital system….they are no better than barbarians while again the illusion of caring….I am finding it harder and harder to find anything that isn’t an illusion here….

weirdly none of this is happening to me….no lockdown, basically complete freedom at this point while all this is happening to my fellow country people…almost does my head in…

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 19, 2021 12:54 PM
Reply to  Edith

Which state are you in, Edith?

Can only be WA, QLD, NT or TAS. Everyone else is banged up, I reckon.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 19, 2021 10:59 PM
Reply to  JohnEss

Brisbane still has a creepy forced mask “rule” in place…which seems to have no end in sight.

WorkingCLassHero
WorkingCLassHero
Aug 19, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

She forgot to mention “don’t worry too much, since you have a 99%+ of surviving”. Even if you over 80. That’s if you believe that kung flu exists the first place.

Pandemics don’t need an ads campaign, the real carnage speaks for itself. Except in this case.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 19, 2021 12:52 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I cannot tell you either way, mate, as I don’t own an idiot box. I wouldn’t put it past the lowlife Strayan grubbermint to commission something as evil as that video.

They really are that desperate to show the world they win at everything.

Aussies don’t lose well.

austrian peter
austrian peter
Aug 19, 2021 9:08 AM

It is clear that we are winning the propaganda war and that the globalists are in retreat. You only have to measure the degree of censorship and vitriol on all forms of media to realise that it is indicative of the degree to which the globalists are fearful of their failures to coerce the masses into subservience. ” Methinks they protest too much” as the Bard would have it.

The turmoil in Afghanistan is just one example of the inner rot at the heart of the Anglo/American empire. Its global hegemony is rapidly coming to an end. Excessive military might and a weaponised dollar is no antidote to a people engerised by faith and trust in a moral integrity which provides an impenetrable defensive aura against any and all elitist propaganda. Make no mistake, it’s all about the money – always.

I have no fears or doubt that our resistance will prevail and perhaps even a moral zeigeist will replace the hubris and excesses so openly on display in both America and Britain. Keep up the resistance – we are in a spiritual war for the minds and hearts of the common people.

I have written a book about all this and how our future might emerge from the present chaos; a free PDF is available on request to:
[email protected]

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 19, 2021 11:09 AM
Reply to  austrian peter
NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 1:05 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

“how our future might emerge from the present chaos”

Our present is not chaos but highly organized fascist oppression: the conspiracy between State power and Money power, as defined by Mussolini who invented it. The patriots in Afghanistan took up arms to liberate their country from NATZO occupation. Are the patriots of Austria armed to liberate their country from Money Power?

Obviously sweet reason is a powerful tool with which to combat propaganda. But sweet reason and skilful diplomacy by Russia, Iran, Pakistan and China would not have led to the Taliban’s success if those countries had not also possessed enough armed force to deter “our irresistible armed might” (to quote a UK Minister posing on top of a NATZO tank in NATZO occupied Serbia). British police now roam the streets wearing flak-jackets and carrying sub-machine guns. So do most police under the present Capitalist tyranny in the EU$A. I doubt these modern examples of “L’Homme Armee” are permeable to sweet reason. Neither are the agents of Capitalism who occupy the benches in Parliament. Nor the Capitalists who give them their orders.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 8:48 AM

A friend just made a post about this disgusting poster from the so called, alleged “anti fascists” at Antifa in Germany who stuck this very disturbing poster up at a supermarket. It reads in part “the unvaccinated are not welcome here. Track them down, round them up, intern them”. And these bastards have the gall to call themselves “anti fascists”. Soros would be so proud of them. I hope you don’t mind me using this from your twitter account CJ.
Consent Factory (@consent_factory) Tweeted:
A message from the “anti-fascists” of #Antifa here in #NewNormal Germany. The sign reads …

“Enough! The Unvaccinated are not welcome here! Track them down! Round them up! Intern them and vaccinate them!” https://t.co/egEPPy5NC6 https://twitter.com/consent_factory/status/1427573892965621789?s=20

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 19, 2021 9:23 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Fewer people seem to be taken in by Antifa. Like BLM. But just do a search and you’ll see from their most prominent promoters who they serve: ADL, WaPo, Congressional Research Service, BBC, VoA, Counter-Extremism Project, Business Insider (Springer/CIA) etc

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 9:42 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yep, well and truly shown what they really are, along with BLM, and given that climate lockdowns are definitely on the horizon as well, we can’t forget about Extinction Rebellion. Same useful idiots marching to the pied pipers tune. Both Wrong Kind of Green and Kim Hill at Medium did excellent analysis on ER.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 19, 2021 10:08 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thanks for Kim Hill, I hadn’t read that — written from a Green perspective and perhaps more devastating for that.

TL;DR Climate Change (as opposed to the real industrial exploitation and pollution) is a way for The Investors to mine more of the minerals they want, while getting the rest of us to pay for it.

Seems they want to mine and extract MORE not less by pushing us off the land to “save the Earth”.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 10:33 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I actually friended Kim Hill on FB about 5 days ago. Really good comprehensive analysis and can’t think how I came across it, think I saw a link for it at Wrong Kind of Green? Surreal mass psychotic madness here in Australia now M. Children now being herded into stadiums by the thousands to get jabbed. Hannah Arendt could write a whole book on just the last 16 months in Australia alone. I don’t know how to describe it – a cannibal turning on himself and eating his own limbs maybe?

NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 12:33 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

“Thou shalt not give any of thine children to pass through the fire and sacrifice them to Molech” — Leviticus 18.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 1:08 PM
Reply to  NickM

As so many in Australia, and around the world are now doing😪

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Aug 19, 2021 10:30 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

blm have a point!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 19, 2021 10:28 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Mightn’t it be satire though? I’d certainly like to think so.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 10:39 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

If it was from CJ Hopkins, yes, it could be taken as satire. Perhaps. Coming from Antifa, and given who is behind them, it’s not satire. They meant every word.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 19, 2021 8:24 AM

I mentioned covid in relation to 9/11 but I reckon that JFK is actually a better parallel. I think the significance of that assassination cannot be overstated. It marked the point where the Left completely abandoned all pretence at autonomy to become a fully co-opted arm of the state. Or at least most of the Left did. And this new zombie Left’s job was to sneer using the newly coined mind blocking term “conspiracy theory” whilst passing over these dubious events in silence – the basic trope being: “Nothing to see here- move along now!” Thus covid: “Let’s hope it all just goes away!”

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 19, 2021 8:10 AM

Oh they do like their dreary hack reporters – Marr, Kuenssberg etc. Or that guy with the thick black rimmed glasses – can’t even recall his name, oh here it is: Nick Robinson. Friendly faces – ever so reliable ‘cause they’re familiar, like family members. In the end I see them like slightly more prestigious stand-up comics. Like “beloved Eric and Ern” but with a political script.

And how about that entire political celeb layer? Every leader writes an autobiography. If they’re American, it’s inevitably an uplifting morality tale. “Tales my Father Taught Me”, “Dreams You can Believe In” – that kind of thing. I get the impression the Brit contingent are more deceptively “factual” and therefore less honest. But who cares really? There seems to be a whole industry shovelling this crap out and no amount of dosh is to be wasted on flogging the message of the moment – which will be abandoned as soon as it no longer matters. What was that book? “Corbyn – The Truly Evil One”?

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 19, 2021 11:03 AM
Reply to  George Mc

A few things about Marr:

He admits to having been a Maoist in his youth; his first regular job in Uk journalism was at ‘The Economist’ which is a Rothschild publication; one of his middle names is Stevenson which seems a probable R.L. Stevenson reference – and he was a highly Freemasonic writer (e.g. the duality of Jekyll/Hyde) plus this seems to suggest he was a member https://eb1870.org/famous-freemason-robert-stevenson/ ; Marr seems to have been, er, exceptionally unlucky with his health having apparently had a stroke, cancer and covid.

Claret
Claret
Aug 19, 2021 5:24 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And spooky military man Frank Gardner (BBC Security Correspondent)

These people probably attend the same gatherings and are members of the same private clubs etc. None of them were under ‘lockdown’.

Jubal Hershaw
Jubal Hershaw
Aug 19, 2021 7:03 AM

In Australia cairnsnews has posted a great short video for Saturday’s rally. it’s really worth forwarding to any friend who might be wavering… who’s fallen for the deceit that the injection is a vaccine…

stuart
stuart
Aug 19, 2021 6:50 AM

Can we stop saying ‘New Normal’ and instead say ABNORMAL?

Ort
Ort
Aug 19, 2021 8:41 PM
Reply to  stuart

FWIW, I’ve been calling it the New Abnormal ever since the powers and principalities abruptly switched from the original “two-week lockdown to give the healthcare system time to prepare for the massive pandemic casualties” (March 2020) to “we must implement draconian ‘public-health’ measures indefinitely, at least until an effective vaccine is developed”.

Peter
Peter
Aug 19, 2021 5:04 AM

633

Yesterday there were 633 “cases”. Wasn’t there a 1960’s movie called 633 Squadron ?
I wonder if there is something occultic in the number.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 19, 2021 6:29 AM
Reply to  Peter

Wonderful score by Ron Goodwin.
But maybe it was propaganda ;-(

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 19, 2021 11:06 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

633 encodes both 93 (Aleister Crowley’s favourite number – he even used it as his signature) and 66 (claimed to be the highest rank of Freemasonry beyond the 33 that are publically acknowledged).

Build Back Botter
Build Back Botter
Aug 19, 2021 11:57 AM
Reply to  Edwige

If you knew the magnificence of 369 then you would have the key to the universe – Nikola Tesla

Marko Rodin’s vortex-based mathematics unveils the importance of 3-6-9 in his work.

https://royalverse.com/facts-about-369-the-secret-key-to-universe/

victoria
victoria
Aug 20, 2021 8:49 PM
Reply to  Edwige

at some point quite a few yrs back, i had read similar about crowley’s claim that there were far more degrees than 33, albeit three times as many — 99.

so i searched to see what i could find… document written by crowley in 1912 O.T.O. Synopsis of Degrees

In the table, the degrees from 4° to 33° of Memphis refer to the Reduced Rite (Antient and Primitive) of 33 degrees; the 95° to 97° to the full rite of 97 degrees, the top two of which are administrative for the ruling council and chief of the rite. In the 97 degree rite, the first 33 parallel AASR and the rest are frankly a mess and have varied wildly between different juridictions and over the history of the rite (one modern Memphis working has 99 degrees, with the 96° being national heads, the 99° the world Chief of the rite and the 97° and 98° some kind of intermediate trans-national chiefs). 

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Aug 19, 2021 12:48 PM
Reply to  Peter

Sound of Music was a cult even me and my dad liked it.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 19, 2021 4:30 AM

Speaking of propaganda, why don’t some of us here pool our money for an anti-Covid fascism leaflet dispersion via small commercial airplane?

This was done by the White Rose group during Nazi Germany
The secret student resistance to Hitler – Iseult Gillespiehttps://youtu.be/ZtOKRsF6Rr0

Also on Rumble and BitChute

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 5:38 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

The White Rose are on Telegram. I just looked then. Have been seeing their flyers around Melbourne, mainly at bus stops.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 20, 2021 12:56 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thanks! I have a problem with Telegram. It wants me to set up an account with my name and give them my email address and, from memory, download an app.

Do you trust them? If it’s “subversive” why do they request your ID details?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 20, 2021 3:26 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

The White Rose only seems to be on Telegram. I hear what you’re saying V, and I also know a lot of people have left Facebook and gone onto Telegram, and I have heard concerns about how private it is, and yes, I do understand your concern.
For me, the cops already know who I am as last year they paid me a visit at night after I posted a few online rants against the lockdowns here.
End of the day, its up to you whether you open a Telegram account or not. By the way, Offguardian has one as I get videos from them via Telegram.

NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 6:26 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

I am glad you remembered the White Rose group in Nazi Germany. The vain attempts of this little group of high minded heroes to counter a propaganda onslaught by agents of Anglo Capitalism are one of the many parallels with the New World Order which came into being with the Bush regime’s Con-911 holocaust in New York City, 2001. Another parallel is that the White Rose were powerless against the primitive force of mass psychology. The good German sheeple had to learn the hard way: it was only when Hitler had led 4 Million good German sheeple to the slaughter in his idiotic campaign that the good German sheeple reduced their vote for him from 99% to 1%.

“Praise be to God who set this Law in his Heavens
That mankind must learn by suffering” — Aeschyles, Chorus in Agamemmnon

If we will learn no other way.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Aug 20, 2021 12:45 AM
Reply to  NickM

No offence…
4 million of WHAT, exactly?
Over 60 million died in WW2…

NickM
NickM
Aug 20, 2021 6:22 PM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

4 Million Germans followed the Pied Piper to be slaughtered in Hitler’s idiotic campaign (Mein Kamf, my campaign). Who knows how many human beings will be found, in the coming years, to have been following Con-19 artists to be doom with lingering disease by allowing themselves to be used for insufficiently tested experimental injections with naked viral genes?

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 20, 2021 12:57 AM
Reply to  NickM

I thought only about a third of Germans voted Hitler in….

NickM
NickM
Aug 20, 2021 6:30 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Thirty percent was a far bigger majority for the Nazis than the 0.01% of Con-artists who are running the global Con-19 regime. But once Hitler was fully installed his vote soared to 99%. Which will be the happy state of the Con regime if we do not oppose their black-clad, armed, storm troopers in the streets.

Jeff Carmack
Jeff Carmack
Aug 19, 2021 4:29 AM

We could just be.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 19, 2021 4:23 AM

See, all sorts of “experts” like Samuel Pufendorf and Thomas Hobbes and Bernard Mandeville and others had plenty to say about social contracts between “citizens” and “States”. Men are brutes they say and need correction and a heavy hand including threat hanging over them to “encourage” them to live civilly. So they say, well, let’s all get together and agree the State can wield supreme power in order to create a more or less natural state of peace and co-operation. That way it’s better for us all. You trade your freedom for protection.

Fine. Hey, that’s great. But these drunks said men are brutes and need correction. But wait a minute…the “men” who make up the State……….are men too……..and brutes themsleves. They aint no “supreme” intellect or unchallenged masters of the universe. You’ve got monkey’s guarding monkeys. So all these old drunks like Pufendorf and Hobbes should have pulled their heads out of their arses and used their miraculous powers of philosophy and come up with a better idea than letting brutes have ALL the power to dictate, control, crush and snuff out all the other brutes. That’s a recipe for untold corruption and exploitation.

What these drunks should have said was…there is no social contract. There is only the exploited and those that do the exploiting. They could have saved thousands of pages of gobbledygook in a handful of words.

I’m still flawed that a tiny minority of “leaders” think they can force me to wear a mask…to literally dictate how I breathe the air. That they think they can force me to take an injection that was rushed out in 2 seconds flat and that’s made up of nobody knows what for a “virus” that’s literally not killing people.

This social contract thing that we all around the world find ourselves bound to by virtue of the protection racket business model, is not a 2 party informed consent contract. It’s an ultimatum presented to you as in infant that you swim in forever.

Edith
Edith
Aug 19, 2021 6:45 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

This is so very true in the place known as Australia…no bill of rights, actually no position of prime minister in the commonwealth constitution….said constitution now proving about totally useless….we find we are really 6 states who basically can do as they like…plus 2 territories…who seem the same…the state leaders handed over to the police and military, thus betraying any care anyone had the delusion to think they had for the people…this allows them to hide while pretending they are in charge…

we are still owned by Elizabeth…and her delegates….we actually only own title to land at her gracious permission….thus we are back being penal colonies, the illusion is in the process of being shattered….but without even the nerve to run the rum rebellion….come next Anzac Day, the other illusion, I am waiting for these so called leaders to stand and say we need to remember the brave men and women who fought and sacrificed for our freedom…they who took it away at the drop of a hat…

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 19, 2021 8:16 AM
Reply to  Edith

Exactly. And, I think anyway, most Australians do NOT know this and have never thought about it…they are some of the most politically correct, domesticated dummies on the planet. They’ve had the good life. They are mentally de-fanged as well as literally defenceless physically. Remember the Port Arthur operation. The country is neutered. Ripe for the plucking. That’s why whenever I ride my bike past a shopping mall the carpark is SLAMMED with cars and every moron is happily masked like a cuck. And I’ve done recons in malls just to see what’s going on. Maskless. And the place has been SLAMMED with masked automatons. And NOBODY I know in real life thinks anything is amiss.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Aug 19, 2021 10:26 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Here’s the social contract as far as I’m concerned: I don’t fuck with you, you don’t fuck with me, unless we both consent to fuck with one another, and if you fuck with me, I take that as consent for me to fuck with you.

At present, like always, I’m being fucked with by the state, so I have no compunction in fucking with them however I can. Ordinary people tend not to fuck with me, so I am civil, polite and courteous to them, which is how I like to be treated. It’s pretty fucking simple really isn’t it?

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 19, 2021 11:13 AM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Yes it should be simple. But it’s not. The social contracts coming out of the 16th, 17th centuries that are manifest in the modern world basically say that the State has supreme power. They offer protection…the “people” give up “some” of their rights by subserviating themselves to the greater good. These are the “great” philosophical minds and ideas…dating back to Plato/ Socrates and finding contemporary form from Hobbes and all those drunks, with the rule by the most fit etc. Or rule by a group designated on our behalf to keep the peace. But it’s just monkeys ruling monkeys. The idea of a group or a king or whatever the ruling hub is, comes on the back of the belief that man is by nature inclined to selfish, brutish ways…that’s why a supreme State must exist to generate a curb on those selfish, brutish ways, thusly producing more or less a harmony. And it’s all well and good to have a State existing like that…right up until the point where the State goes bezerk and starts acting like selfish brutes. After all, if human beings are selfish brutes, then this means the “ruling class” are selfish brutes as well. And with unlimited corruption, graft, blackmail…with the literal ability to treat the world like your own private piggy bank and playground…then the destruction and untold misery your brutish ruling capabilities can inflict on your fellow brutes is unlimited.

We are literally living in a zoo. And none of those drunks…the Pufendorfs, Hobbes, Mandeville…none of the great minds can wriggle out of that fact. They were all social engineers. And it’s been social engineers all the way down. So, it’s a zoo for monkeys run by monkeys. And meanwhile…people are slaving in jobs they hate with people they don’t like to pay off debt to monkeys forever, until they die. The live and let live thing doesn’t work because these scumbags are never content with that. See, the State would NEVER say they are fucking with you…they would say they are helping you…protecting you. They always have that cowardly, passive aggressive lie to fall back on. And it’s a lie they always have in reserve and can be used when they need it. The State can work fine…on paper, right up until the point when it doesn’t. And then we get what we have now. I guess.

Antonio
Antonio
Aug 19, 2021 6:50 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

This is the illogic of the State in a nutshell. Once I saw this, I could not go back to being a Constitutional Conservative (U.S.). The choice was to reject Statism totally, or go back to what I believed in formerly and live the rest of my life with a glaring cognitive dissonance, a gigantic lie, a fairy tale worthy of Aesop.

Allowing some men to rule other men is a recipe for tyranny. It has always worked out that way. There is no such thing as limited government, or a minimal State. There is no piece of paper, no social contract, that can suppress the appetite of some to rule over the many.

I don’t know if anarchy (no State, no rulers) could ever work. But this sure as hell ain’t working.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 19, 2021 11:10 PM
Reply to  Antonio

Right on. It is a recipe for disaster. And what makes it even more disastrous, weird and creepy is that in the modern world, “rulers” rule with a minimum of effort…from their arm chair…backed by one of the greatest propaganda tools of all time, the TV, backed by a system of full spectrum mind fuckery. They hide behind fronts of fronts to the extent that the cowards mandating your rules are never even known or seen. Politicians don’t make any rules. They pass on the message. What we have are corporations and the shadowy figures behind them parcelling out limited liability…apportioning your limited rights and freedoms. They literally allow you licensed liberty.

Which is insane.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 19, 2021 4:13 AM

Witness the hour, for it is late. The British Broadcasting Corporation hails the ghosts of authoritarianism.

“Westminster and the State are two very different things… we should spend less time on the distracting national puppet show and more time thinking about what I might delicately call the deeper sources of authority.”

Andrew Marr uses doublespeak in the form of euphemism. Is he saying listen to the experts? Who are these deeper sources of authority counterpoised to Westminster’s “puppet show”. To whom does he appeal that he should “call delicately”?

It is the intermission. We await the overture that heralds the next distraction. Or as Shakespeare might have said if he’d written Dr Strangelove, “Now is the winter of our discontent Made glorious summer by this sun…”

Attention is being switched from Covid. Few people know anyone, outside the nursing homes, who died from the first wave. If the VAERS/Yellow Card figures are fractionally true, trouble is brewing and many will soon know someone who “died from the Delta.”

Someone who lost face — or the use of it — after getting the vaccine will make their voice heard. As will anyone who mourns a pregnancy or a friend. No wonder they want us to stop talking about Covid.

The orchestra settles in the stalls, preparing to soothe our cares and woe.
Did you know Google redefined the word, fascism? First as far-right thuggery. Then Poof! It vanished from our discourse as a going concern. It was no longer disrespect to the millions who gave their lives fighting fascism — or its victims — to hurl the word as a cheap political epithet.

Next, the historical event of the struggle against fascism was buried. In 2019, the Russian head of state was, for the first time, excluded from the 75th anniversary of D-Day — the representative of some of those 26 million fallen Soviet citizens; of the 80 soldiers who fell for every one American.

Literal Hitler’ became an illiterate, incoherent blurt. A meme blotting out reality. An orange smear replacing the sharp angles of black upon white and red.

In 2020, “voters… accept[ed] restrictions on their liberties for the greater good.”

In 2021 a BBC reporter says with a straight face: “Westminster and the State are two very different things… we should spend less time on the distracting national puppet show and more time thinking about what I might delicately call the deeper sources of authority.”

Soft Cell
To the general reader Marr is saying trust the NHS. To the insider he is speaking sotto voce, in unmistakable allusion to the deep state which was rehabilitated by Joe Biden’s installation in the White House through what Time magazine called, “The Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election.”

The right are often accused of using ‘dog whistles’ to call out to each other beyond the normal range of hearing. I have seen no clearer example of a dog whistle than Marr’s article, which is a barely disguised appeal to supplant the parliamentary system.
If you doubt, then read this section:

“This is a core lesson that needs to be learned, as we hinge from Covid to climate. Public understanding of science has become a security issue. Without it, there will be no public support for the hard decisions on transport, heating and land use.”

Propaganda for the Outer Party
Marr’s appeal begins: BBC calling, BBC calling: Grown ups, think no more! Education works. You know enough. Face down doubt. Face down the coronavirus.

By its tone this is clearly an appeal to the Outer Party. The language is compressed, heavy with necessary transmissions from the directorate. It is not an article for the public for it is tough going. It is an update addressed to functionaries who have a role to play.

Speaking truth from power, BBC articles no longer read as if the reporters had waited in the corridors outside: they come from the commissar’s desk. They no longer sing with the cadence of the interrogative, or the nuance of quest pursued to its probable answer. Rather the tone is certain. They convey instructions.
It strains credibility when Marr implies that he knew all along that Westminster was a puppet show. Is he saying he misled us? On whose say-so — those “deeper sources of authority”?

As the Spectator published last week, Revealed: the BBC Guide for Covering Climate Change, the BBC is less of a journalistic organization. From its internal discussions of how to persuade the public on climate change, the BBC is increasingly a mouthpiece for the interests that Marr refuses to reveal.

“The July 28th briefing — which one insider described as being more reminiscent of ‘a campaigning organisation’ — identifies seven different groups of viewers and how to appeal to them: ‘progressive activists,’ ‘civic pragmatists,’ ‘established liberals,’ ‘loyal nationals,’ ‘disengaged battlers,’ ‘backbone conservatives,’ and ‘disengaged traditionalists.”

BBC apologists be reminded, that is not how one approaches a news story. To begin with it is issue-based reporting, not news — note the first three letters. Secondly even a hardy perennial requires some hoeing and pruning. The topic, that is, not the viewer.

No-one any longer expects the BBC to do investigative reporting. But a few questions might not go amiss. Instead we learn:
The BBC has decided how you think — which may or may not be accurate.
The BBC has decided how to influence you
The BBC has decided who to interview (BBC approval scores 5-8)

Political machine learning
Marr says “much of what we have learned from Covid-19 — about the state, authority, journalism and civil society — is directly applicable to what’s coming next”: restricting liberties for the greater good; public sector workers gaining more authority; we are all following the science; increasingly interconnected; demonstrating strengths of Western democracies.

The timing and subtext of Marr’s article tells of doubt. He has been given the task of rallying the functionaries because governments know they are overextended and they are on the brink of a new ploy or, if I had to put my money on it, several new distractions.

In full at: https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/bbc-flirts-with-deeper-authority

Kit Knightly’s coverage of the Marr story here.

Edith
Edith
Aug 19, 2021 5:18 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Or maybe they have enough set for the extinction event..,

Willem
Willem
Aug 19, 2021 6:56 AM
Reply to  Edith

Marr, that is the guy from this Chomsky interview right?

‘ Marr: “How can you know that I’m self-censoring? How can you know that journalists are..”

Chomsky: “I’m not saying your self censoring. I’m sure you believe everything you’re saying. But what I’m saying is that if you believe something different, you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting.

Peter
Peter
Aug 19, 2021 6:33 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Who are these deeper sources of authority counterpoised to Westminster’s “puppet show”. To whom does he appeal that he should “call delicately”?”

I think I know who he means. Surprising that the BBC would hint the politicians are puppets and that they report to the truly powerful forces that lurk in the shadows.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 19, 2021 7:49 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I love your style MC:

Someone who lost face — or the use of it

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 19, 2021 11:16 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The BBC is a cancer in our society.

hele
hele
Aug 19, 2021 3:13 AM

They are Villans.They ride around in Limo’s -attended secret gatherings-deciding how to kill us, Trick us. cajole us into believing lies.Taking our public purse for thier own gain.
I’m not voting for them.I’m Done!

Big al
Big al
Aug 19, 2021 4:21 AM
Reply to  hele

My guess is the number of people that do not want to vote for them anymore far outnumber those who want to vote for them. How to harness that is the question.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Aug 19, 2021 3:06 AM

Oh last two thousand years countries have had mild to extreme propaganda nothing wrong only natural imo.
Alliances is where it becomes more difficult. ie: NATO UN IMF Banking Central BANK, what else is New oh yea, China BANK sorry.
First foremost the acceptability we are all common people, in the nicest meaning of the word: common.

Press, isn’t what this is all about, ‘words, phases assays paragraphs statements accompanied photographs sensations whats Vogue in The Fashion now today this month Year…..?’
That was easy for me, I had no time for what someone said in a newspaper., never even purchased one.

Years later fleet street showed graphic photographs of a friend who had been killed in a GP, are those pictures news, nope. It’s pure Sensationalism, is racing too dangerous make it Safe Ban it Slow it down etc.
Simple answer Motor Racing is Money, Loads of it Huge!
Do I want it banned?….Piss Off!
People use on-line propaganda safe brigades ban groups this that Selfish bigots, “What’s good for Me” types.

Soo time passes life goes on Have I ever bought into dragged into news-paper-digital-computerised- micro- chipped app- phone-tablet-lap-top.
Well yea, just a little, after all, I am only human.

Mr Schwab, great reset fourth industrial sars cov-2 heck even we annually flu jabbed in the UK, nothing until January ’20.

In the US I watch (or did untill Floyd crap banning switch over to Feminism propaganda)
movies & music., because of my personal love of Art.
So could say this little fly flew in fresh and got caught in the tar paper.

Thiekbalj
Thiekbalj
Aug 19, 2021 2:43 AM

To all in Australia: the world is watching the full blown madness. I hope that on the ground there is solidarity and that the people can hold the line. Utterly mental. Ran across this and it seems relevant to the question of ‘why Australia’

https://fortune.com/2015/10/26/australia-test-products/

Big al
Big al
Aug 19, 2021 4:19 AM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

Good pull, definitely does seem relevant. Actually you may have hit the nail on the head, what else could it be? And if so, that is further proof this whole thing has been manufactured. Interesting also regarding the part about “affluent and educated”.

Edith
Edith
Aug 19, 2021 5:52 AM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

Australia is in many respects the land of illusions and so why not do the covid illusion in somewhat the same vein…

the original lot were transported here as prisoners and set about displacing the original inhabitAnts by declaring them savages and accepting the ruling class decree of terra nullis…my mother said ‘well after all they were not using the land’. No doubt a common thought..and many of these people allowed the ruling elite to sell the land to them…after the elite had taken it from the indig…in the same vein we let the govt sell our national communication Corp back to us a few years ago…

we kept the illusion of empire going as if Britain really cared. And happy went off to fight in her wars….then happily went off to fight in US wars…all the way with LBJ…when they told us the yellow peril was coming to get us….within a few years we imported many of the yellow peril…now they were good for us…provided cheap lab etc etc…same old story…

then we too exported all our manufacturing to sweat shops…and rejoiced about how much richer this seemed to make us…we built grand houses around Sydney harbour and elsewhere we could find some water…why not water, the ultimate illusion.

we still don’t understand our past sin….but no doubt half the country isn’t even aware of the sin of displacement…one big advantage of multi cultures….sold to us by the same people who want us to believe they give more of a shit about the plight of the indig…meanwhile we sing about far wide brown plains for all to share…but we took them…so are they ours to share? We endlessly fall for scams, have poor leaders etc…while claiming the other illusion that we won’t tolerate bullshit etc…as I said …the home of illusions…

so why not try out products etc here…and especially the ultimate scam…the covid trip…

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Aug 19, 2021 9:12 AM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

Thank you, also noticed a small US map top left corner cases up 52%! ?? Do I see right its a bit out of focus.

Steve
Steve
Aug 19, 2021 11:22 AM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

Australia is gone, as is NZ. They are mostly loving their new 1984 dystopia. France is the place to watch.

Peter
Peter
Aug 19, 2021 2:07 AM

Gaza

The people in the Gaza strip and in Pyongyang are undoubtedly better off than the citizens of Sydney today, The testing centres, empty for months, are overflowing and new ones have been set up. Police helicopter patrols. Huge fines for failure to muzzle and wandering outside your 5 km limit. The ugly witch bitch in charge spews fear porn that the submissive slaves lap up. Huge fines for disseminating convid “disinformation”. Kids separated from their parents and injected in stadiums, some collapsing.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 19, 2021 2:54 AM
Reply to  Peter

“Almost seems like Gladys feels she missed out on the whole Jonestown Experience.”
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Edith
Edith
Aug 19, 2021 5:54 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Well she can keep the enquiry into her affair under lock and key too…so what isn’t there to like?

Peter
Peter
Aug 19, 2021 6:03 AM
Reply to  Edith

Affair ?

You mean in the romantic sense ? Christ the fellow must have been desperate. Has she procreated ?

Edith
Edith
Aug 19, 2021 7:24 AM
Reply to  Peter

She is currently under investigation for alleged conflicts of interest…easily found out about on the web…and yes there was a male involved…many claimed she was susceptible, helpless female, flattered etc…and while all is totally locked up so too are the investigators.

Thom 9
Thom 9
Aug 19, 2021 1:45 AM

The present proganda model being used against the masses resembles a “confused sea”. The waves of propaganda are coming at the masses from every direction which makes it much harder to navigate the predominate current and wind. The intention is to confuse, contradict, conflict and thereby further divide the masses into smaller pidgeon holes.

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 19, 2021 11:22 AM
Reply to  Thom 9

The Shock Doctrine

Thom 9
Thom 9
Aug 19, 2021 2:42 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Yes agreed “The Shock Doctrine” brought to us by the Tavistock Institute of the City of London and it’s minions and master.

Zoroo
Zoroo
Aug 19, 2021 12:27 AM

They did not achieve this new reality only with propaganda. They have the law on their side because with money they could buy the allegiance of the leaders or influence to instil fear into them or to make them disappear like the five presidents who were against the vaccine. This is right, we have lost.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Aug 19, 2021 7:42 AM
Reply to  Zoroo

We haven’t lost yet, and not all leaders are bending over:

AMLO Rejects Jabs For Kids, “We won’t Be Held Hostage By Pharma Companies”
Also, “they have the law on their side”. For now. But what is going to happen when the police and the military are faced with mandatory vaccination, particularly when the scale of vacine deaths becomes too great to suppress?

JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 19, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  Zoroo

I don’t understand Romanian but the following looks to be very encouraging. The short English translation I was able to obtain told me that the entire Convid machine in Romania has been stopped. If someone could shed some light on the story, I feel many people here would be gratful.

Thank you.

https://www.g4media.ro/s-au-inchis-toate-centrele-de-vaccinare-anti-covid-din-municipiul-brasov-vaccinuri-se-mai-administreaza-la-medicii-de-familie-si-in-spitale.html

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Aug 18, 2021 11:59 PM

The first time was not the hardest. We just borrowed her sister’s play tent, with one gas burner to make a cup of coffee.

40 years later, the tent is in the car, we have pre-cooked most of the food. The line-up is so good, that there will be barely time to eat, after bacon and eggs for breakfast (it drives the veggies wild – they just love the smell, and try to deny it)

Even the ENID are on in 2021 at New Day Festival

“Enid – Jessica – (Live at Stonehenge Free Festival, UK, 1984)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIYz1na1w90

OK so we got old.

At least we are still up for Camping, and might do it again in September.

(personally, I can’t stand The ENID, but that’s not the point. They did finance a lot of the photography of Stonehenge)

Tony

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 19, 2021 2:09 AM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Take some pics of the festival.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 19, 2021 8:33 PM

Pics! Pics!

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Aug 18, 2021 11:53 PM

they transformed the entire planet into an inescapable pandemic-theater production in which the terrorized performers are also the audience.

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Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 18, 2021 11:50 PM

To me propaganda is deliberate disinformation (fake news). Because it’s deliberate there is always a nefarious agenda driving it.

Yes, most of my (our) utterings and posts are trying to influence but, as for me, I always strive to back up my persuasion with facts as I have investigated them. Also, my motive is to enlighten and free people from slavery, rather than push them into slavery. Big difference.

When I voice a mere opinion, I own up to it being an opinion. Which is what the first para is.

Big al
Big al
Aug 18, 2021 11:33 PM

Actually it’s not something everyone can do because I refuse to use Twitter and Facebook and other social media. And I’m sure the author wouldn’t want me to abandon my own ethical and moral choices. But more power to ya. I still think people need to ditch their smart phones and all social media, they are being use to control and enslave.

Philippe
Philippe
Aug 19, 2021 9:27 AM
Reply to  Big al

I am sorely tempted to agree with you absolutely. I also believe that so-called ‘smart’ devices are critical in their plans to enslave us all.

However, given the msm blackout regarding any counter-information eg demonstrations, legal challenges, personal experiences etc, social media is playing a part in disseminating such info to the masses (until is is found and deleted/blocked, of course). There are many people who would never consider coming to sites like Off-G (we’re all conspiracy theorists here, dontcha know), but who are exposed (quite probably accidentally) to counter information via their twitter feed or facebook page. If even a few of them are prompted to start thinking, as a result of said exposure, then that should be considered a good thing.

Social media could be a power for good, if it weren’t largely populated by so many shills, trolls, bots and sanctimonious twats. I know – there is no such thing as ‘the ideal world’, but in an evolving environment of evils, it is sometimes preferable to put up with the lesser of such aka twitter, facebook et al, if those can be used against their creators.

Also, the problem is not necessarily with the social media platforms; it is with the discernment of those who engage with it. As with all tools, you can either use it badly or use it well. Discernment appears to have been deliberately educated out of a huge number of people.

Personally, I ‘monitor’ twitter through an account I’ve had for over ten years (with a sum total of two posts, from ten years ago) but I cannot bring myself to go anywhere near facebook.

Paul
Paul
Aug 18, 2021 11:25 PM

Another excellent article from Mr Hopkins.

Indeed, for the political & medical establishment the ‘truth’ doesn’t matter.

What matters is what the majority of people believe to be true at an emotional level.

Hence the mass censorship and the pursuit by the establishment to control the information.

When you control the information, you control the perception, and when you control perception, you control behaviour.

But for the critical thinkers like myself facts are sacred.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Aug 18, 2021 10:54 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2021-08-17. Massive Spike in Covid, Deaths in Highly-jabbed Israel, not so much with Sparsely-jabbed Palestine
https://paulthepaperbear.wordpress.com/2021/08/17/your-alternative-update-on-covid19-for-2021-08-17-massive-spike-in-covid-deaths-in-highly-jabbed-israel-not-so-much-with-sparsely-jabbed-palestine/

NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Paul Prichard

“Massive Spike in Covid in Highly-jabbed Israel, not so much with Sparsely-jabbed Palestine”

Confirms what WHO statistics showed in 2020: Con-19 is a disease of advanced Western democracies not backward Eastern theocracies. Only a Western society like Israel has the advanced technology which can apply repeat doses of a vaccine that doesn’t work in order to prevent a disease that doesn’t exist. Non-Westerners are too primitive to grasp this concept.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Aug 18, 2021 10:31 PM

Well what I am to make of this?

NYC – Now back in Full Lockdown, unless you have been Double Jabbed.
New Zealand – In Full Lock Down (Both Islands) Because of One Suspected Covid Case.
Australia – Look at the State of Australia – Thanks Gazzah Potts and All The Australians
Germany – Thanks CJ Hopkins, for The Update. Did You do The Spray Paint Job?
France – Well Rob G and John Ward, updates us on France
Cryprus – Tim Drayton writes (Is Cyrpus Rocks on again this year?)
Spain – My Guitarist mate, tells me what it is like in Spain. He is still getting loads of gigs.
Canada – Pretty much like Austalia and New Zealand

ENGLAND – Do what you want to do.

No RESTRICTIONS

No compulsory Jabs – Though You Can Have One or Three if You Want

No compulsory Masks – Though if you want, you can if you like.

Do you what you want. I don’t care. I am just elated, that none of my immediate family have been jabbed.

I really Love Them, and I want to keep them alive.

I have mostly been very subtle about it.

Tony

Nylon
Nylon
Aug 18, 2021 11:20 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

One question has been in my mind for a couple of months: how comes that Australia,New Zealand and Canada, have such a striking difference with the UK in the way their citizens has been (and still are) treated in this scamdemic. Common roots, same queen,similar legal system and still, as you just pointed) here it looks like is almost over but over there the situation is getting harder every day.
It seems to me that those territories have a different destiny awaiting them in the next geopolitical map.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 18, 2021 11:38 PM
Reply to  Nylon

Maybe because they are isolated testing grounds.

Nylon
Nylon
Aug 19, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

By appointment to her majesty the queen?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 19, 2021 7:03 AM
Reply to  Nylon

Canada is in the green. Has been for months, but gvmt is talking jab pass

HotScot
HotScot
Aug 18, 2021 10:29 PM

I’m a normal, healthy bloke who is not covid ‘asymptomatic’ because there is no such thing other than in extremely rare cases.

I don’t wan’t people to take responsibility for my life, and wear a mask claiming it’s for my benefit, then call me a selfish b@st@rd for not getting jabbed with non-vaccines, and wander round wearing a filthy rag on my face.

How many of these disgusting people actually understand that the blue ‘clinical’ masks they wear as a symbol of subjugation cannot possibly protect anyone from a virus which is around the third smallest entity above an atom mankind can physically identify?

How many of them do what should be done with their masks and discard them every 20 minutes or so, as they are contaminated with moist breath from a mouth that is, by many accounts, dirtier than a dogs mouth?

How many of them actually wash their nice, trendy, fashionable face masks they stuff in their pocket or handbag where they are allowed to fester before being reapplied to their already foul faces?

My belief is, covid is real.

It was accidentally released from the Wuhan lab and, because every government is doing precisely the same bio weapon experimentation (you don’t think the Top Secret Porten Down facility is involved in ‘medical’ research do you) collective governments sh!t their pants because they had a damn good idea what the potential was.

If it’s a bio weapon, it’s not a very good one as it targets, almost exclusively, the very elderly with comorbidities. These are not the chosen few who will be sent into battle to protect our shores from invading hordes of Chinese. The 19-30 year old warriors who keep watch over us are, by and large, utterly immune to covid.

However, having herded the infected elderly back into care homes, to infect more vulnerable elderly, then shutdown the economy, enforced masking, social distancing and demonisation of the ‘unvaccinated’ (me) reality dawned.

The problem is they couldn’t just say “Sorry folks, we kinda screwed that up, didn’t we” so they have engaged in a macabre political dance with the rest of their duplicitous western counterparts to see who blinks first. The first one to do so will be blamed for panicking the rest of the western world.

Meanwhile, all mention of covid has completely evaporated in Afghanistan. How bl00dy convenient was that? No doubt it will be attributed to the ladies Burka’s and the Formula 1 chequered flags the men wear to hide their faces!

We are now in limbo. Western governments can’t admit they screwed up, and economies are crumbling, but at the same rate as each other, so as long as no one blinks, we are in precisely the same national debt situation as we were almost two years ago relative to each other. We’re all just waiting for the blink.

But there’s the World Economic Forum and Bill Gates with his evil plan to inoculate every person in the world, twice a week, because as he declared, vaccines are the most profitable business he’s ever seen.

Poor Bill. He’s swimming in a pool of sharks, every one of them far more cunning that he is, yet some would have the world believe this sad collection of uber wealthy, uber greedy, uber competitive individuals wouldn’t skin one another alive before planning to take over the world?

And if the UN was doing its job of becoming a global government, you wouldn’t think they would bother competing anyway, would you?

As Toby Young described, in less flamboyant terms, the WEF, UN, UK, US and EU governments couldn’t collectively organise a fvck in a br0thel never mind a p!ss up in a brewery.

We are where we are, because the political left hand doesn’t know there’s a right hand, far less cooperate with it to pull its zip down to have a w@nk.

Intelligence services? They are so good governments are now throwing them under the bus because, apparently, even the Taliban didn’t know they could sweep across Afghanistan so quickly.

Give me a break. If the Taliban didn’t expect it, how could they possibly have organised to do it.

We are not children. All this BS is transparent.

Molinos
Molinos
Aug 18, 2021 10:25 PM

Thanks CJ for who you are and all you write and all you do.

What is striking about the propaganda around Covid is that is has managed to get past the filters of people I would never in a million years have expected to fall for it. 3 examples come to mind.

Example number 1. The Saker of the Vineyard of the Saker. The Saker became very well known and respected for his forensic day-by-day analysis of the Ukraine war of 2014 to 2015 – which is still ongoing. He is usually worth reading for anything concerning geopolitics, especially Russia. He was the first person to work out what most likely happened to flight MH17 which was downed over Ukraine killing all passenegers and crew. However, the Saker has become quite hysterical and perplexed about the fact that the vast majority of his readers do not agree with him over Covid/Vax to the extent that he felt forced to give a forum to those who disagreed with him but not before first insulting them. What followed were about 300 incredibly well-informed and heartfelt comments from people who were equally perplexed by the Saker’s views and who insisted they were not antiVax but simply anti this Vax. (The Saker Blog vs anti-Covid crusaders)

Example number 2. Is b. of Moon of Alabama. b. was to the Syria war what Saker was to the Ukraine war. Another brilliant analyst but less egoistic than Saker, b. published some brilliant stuff and was easy on the moderation and very rarely replied to any comment.  b. could take a country like Venezuela which he clearly didn’t know a lot about and produce an analysis in a morning that was just incredible. Again b. became a bit hysterical and insulting to his many readers over Covid.

Example number 3 is Ron Unz of the Unz review.  Ron is Jewish and yet permits the most anti-semitic comments you could think of on his site. Plus some deeply racist stuff about African Americans. Unz has written thousands of words on how Covid is a bio-weapon yet amazingly endorses the mRNA vaccines, There are some great writers on Unz like Mike Whitney who publicly challenged Unz on his “anti-Vaxxer” views. Unz responded on the 15th of this month, like the Saker, by allowing the crazies to have their say in an article entitled “The Covid Debate: To Vaxx or not to Vaxx.” At present there are over 600 comments and you can guess what they say.

I have just seen that the Saker has interviewed Roger Waters. 

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 19, 2021 1:20 AM
Reply to  Molinos

“Strange is it not how all those so called “respected” sites, in one form or another uphold the Scamdemic ‘Big Lie’ propaganda. Which by basic logic, reasoning and intelligence does not hold. They are either stark raving mad or lying. Would tend to think the latter, though would not totally rule out the former.”

NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 9:11 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Both: they are living and speaking the lie because they are mad. See Jung’s last book on mass psychosis, titled Flying Saucers.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 19, 2021 4:46 AM
Reply to  Molinos

They may have highly analytical Brains but they they won’t look beyond often binary choices they’ve made and hence they are quite autocratic in subjects they consciously or unconsciously decided not to look more deeply as it would crash narratives that chose to proliferate for what ever reason.

Covid is not only example of their shocking authoritarian response and hardline defending their narratives, the same was in case of Syria and Ukraine.

I myself was banned by b for pointing out gross mistakes of Putin in Syria and Ukraine like halting advances of SAA or Donbas militias when they gained momentum that could end the wars.

Putin did it in Ukraine by removal RF military from Ukrainian borders (some located 70 miles from Kiev) after western pressure to free Ukrainian army to attack Donbas , immediate recognition of Kiev regime, refusing military help, and outright two requests of incorporation in RF like Crimea and most of all stopping on Sep 4 militia offensive and ordered Militia withdraw under pretext of engaging in Minsk peace process. August 25 , 2014 successful DPR militia offensive began toward Dnipropetrovsk and encircling Mariupol which effectively collapsed Ukrainian army position causing panic evacuation was squandered.

Back then militia could have liberated the rest of Donbas and even move toward Kiev making UkroNazis flee. Putin did the same in Syria stopping SAA offensive momentum unde guise of phony negotiations in Geneva framework with US and talks with Turkey and Israel.

b as well as Saker did not allowed facts or opinion against Putin strategy of initial appeasement that cost thousands of lives even coming from those who were there on the ground.

NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 9:22 AM
Reply to  Kalen

I am with you in principle: reject initial appeasement because appeasement will only cost more lives later. But in practice?

“You, M.Philosopher, can write freely, because you write on paper and paper is patient. But I, poor Empress, cannot write freely because I write on human flesh”. — Catherine the Great.

mgeo
mgeo
Aug 19, 2021 3:24 PM
Reply to  Kalen

I recently disagreed with you about Ron Unz, but I was mistaken. Except for the bio-weapon theory, he is completely pro-establishment on covid. His tricks include (a) not interested (b) not an expert (c) satisfied with the scientific concensus.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56687.htm

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 20, 2021 4:53 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Even his bioweapon theory of Fort Derrick or even Wuhan more or less supports general narrative of extraordinary threat, stoking fear. He points out, as proof of this threat supposed excess of 500 thousands deaths in 2020 while is unaware that one doesn’t determine respiratory infectious disease excess mortality per calendar year but per season, In 2019/2020 season starting October 1 and ending on September 30, there was no seasonal excess mortality. Similarly there likely won’t be any excess mortality in 2020/2021 season ending in over one month. What eve happed accelerated killing but did not substantially increase deaths.

Trust the “experts” naïveté is in odds with his “cool head” reputation who have courage to face reality including documented lies of experts about wars as much as about pandemics like Swine flu phony pandemic.

Unz claims that only 1% of experts differ from consensus, insulting others as incompetent. That is a lie as Dr Ioannidis of Stanford in first week of April 2020 published seroprevalence study in Santa Clara county showing IFR about 0.1%, a threat level of flu, independently confirmed by LA country and NYC Heath department commissioned studies done by USC and any NY state epidemiologists. Those results were in line with results earlier from Iceland, cruise ships and China.

Why Unz seems blinded to this consensus of independent scientists in fact confirmed by CDC IFR of 0.1-0.2. The results that destroy legitimacy of pandemic emergency (there are antiviral, antibacterial drugs to treat complications) shuts down fear and panic that killed millions Unz is blinded to.

Unz made no effort to understand almost anything about epidemiology by himself (not that difficult) but blindly refers to “experts’s consensus” he must know are funded by usual suspects of big Pharma peddling Vax propaganda.

i wonder why he does not follow 99% experts’ consensus in political sciences, social sciences or economy but offers his own mostly contrarian analysis of facts.

Unz is not unable to see huge holes in Covid narratives that demand deep skepticism but instead he suffers from some sorts of hysterical blindness to reality that reaches beyond choices he apriori made for whatever reasons, fear or opportunism or both.

gregory
gregory
Aug 19, 2021 6:14 AM
Reply to  Molinos

Noam Chomski “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum – even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate”.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 19, 2021 6:19 AM
Reply to  Molinos

This is what raised my initial suspicions about Unz; i.e. that he was attempting to control a narrative.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-911-conspiracy-theories
American Pravda: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
Ron Unz – Sep 10, 2018

Unz:

The whole scenario of top American leaders being the masterminds behind 9/11 is beyond ridiculous, and those 9/11 Truthers who make or imply such claims—doing so without a single shred of solid evidence—have unfortunately played a major role in discrediting their entire movement. In fact, the common meaning of the “inside job” scenario is so patently absurd and self-defeating that one might even suspect that the claim was encouraged by those seeking to discredit the entire 9/11 Truth movement as a consequence.

The focus on Cheney and Rumsfeld seems particularly ill-directed. Although I’ve never met nor had any dealings with either of those individuals, I was quite actively involved in DC politics during the 1990s, and can say with some assurance that prior to 9/11, neither of them were regarded as Neocons. Instead, they were the archetypical examples of moderate business-type mainstream Republicans, stretching all the way back to their years at the top of the Ford Administration during the mid-1970s.

Skeptics of this claim may note that they signed the 1997 declaration issued by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a leading Neocon foreign policy manifesto organized by Bill Kristol, but I would regard that as something of a red herring. In DC circles, individuals are always recruiting their friends to sign various declarations, which may or may not be indicative of anything, and I remember Kristol trying to get me to sign the PNAC statement as well. Since my private views on that issue were absolutely 100% contrary to the Neocon position, which I regarded as foreign policy lunacy, I deflected his request and very politely turned him down. But I was quite friendly with him at the time, so if I had been someone without strong opinions in that area, I probably would have agreed.

NickM
NickM
Aug 19, 2021 9:30 AM

Thanks for that quote which reveals a serious limitation of Ron Unz in dismissing “those 9/11 Truthers who make or imply such claims [inside job] without a single shred of solid evidence”

How does one obtain solid evidence of Con-911 being an inside job if the criminal regime which performed that atrocity also forbade public investigation, silenced expert opinion, released suspicious foreigners back to their country of origin, and shipped thousands of tons of “solid evidence” off to a smelting yard in China?

Any progress in the Citizens Class Action on Con-911 against the U$ regime?

theo
theo
Aug 19, 2021 8:43 AM
Reply to  Molinos

You can add Stephen Gowans to this odd list. He’s been brilliant in exposing the propaganda against Syria and North Korea, but seem to have fallien hook line and sinker for the Covid Hoax!

Aethelred
Aethelred
Aug 19, 2021 8:17 PM
Reply to  Molinos

They are all operatives under instruction.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 18, 2021 10:16 PM

I am asking a question which is admittedly stupid but bear with me:

No matter what you think of covid, would you agree that the covid issue is … kind of important?

I ask because in Left site after Left site, they don’t tend to mention it. Apart from e.g. the WSW which at least has the decency to treat it as important, although in a totally wrong headed way. My guess is that the silence of most others is actually a kind of embarrassment. Perhaps they are vaguely beginning to suspect they have been duped and hope that the topic will … just go away.

And here comes the deja vu bit with 9/11. Old Chomsky was happy to do his little subversive radical hero bit … just as long as we didn’t talk about 9/11 i.e. just as long as we didn’t talk about the mastodon in the room. And now with covid, we are not supposed to talk about the entire inmates from Jurassic Park who took up residence in our living rooms a year ago and show no signs of leaving.

Tim Glass
Tim Glass
Aug 18, 2021 10:47 PM
Reply to  George Mc

lol brilliant. I’d say the biggest difference between 9/11 normies and covid normies is that the vaxxed have skin in the game, literally.

Xavier
Xavier
Aug 18, 2021 10:57 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Covid and the Jab are like your mum having cancer and receiving chemo/radiotherapy, being bald as a consequence, generally not doing too well, and not having much longer to live.

That is the elephant in the room.

The kids who don’t know better, just think gran has a strange choice of headware, and isn’t getting enough sleep, but otherwise remain unperturbed.

The older adults know what’s really going on, but are just trying to have as normal a life as possible for as long as they can.

One or two teenagers are totally losing their shit over it, and have this desperate notion that if they complain to the oncology doctors forcefully enough, their terminal prognosis can be withdrawn.

‘kids’=credulous/jabbed.
‘teenagers’=rebels/unjabbed.
‘adults’=those who sadly know WTF is going on.
‘doctors’=TPTB.
‘mum’=old world order.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 18, 2021 11:42 PM
Reply to  Xavier

In my experience, the teens and young adults are the most fanatical Covid cult followers, judging by the mask-wearing I see around. It’s the mature adults who are defying the mask mandates here in my corner of Australia.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 4:05 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

I concur with you. Here in Melbourne, prior to the current lockdown, and when facemasks weren’t mandatory outside (that seems like a dim memory now) it was very noticeable that it was the Hipster crowd and Yuppies who were literally stomping around the streets, still wearing masks and they seemed so proud about it. Almost like they were saving the World or something.
But the majority of people I see not complying are aged 40 years or older, and if I do see young people not complying, they seem to be from working class backgrounds.
It seems Australia has literally descended into Stockholm Syndrome psychotic madness. I try very hard not to over use the word surreal, but…

Molinos
Molinos
Aug 18, 2021 11:03 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Hi George, I don’t know how old you are but in the 1970s and 1980s there was no internet and Chomsky was the only one informing us about Palestine/Israel and about media. He also challenged mainstream narratives about Yugoslavia, in particular he challenged, with John Pilger, the whole narrative of the Srebenica massacre, for which he was attacked with venom. I think he just got too old by 9/11.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 19, 2021 7:44 AM
Reply to  Molinos

Oh I’m certainly old enough to recall the 70s and 80s. Even a bit of the 60s. I acknowledge good stuff that Chomsky has written – as has the WSW. But Chomsky always had his limits. He backed off from the JFK thing after a day when he cancelled all his appointments to examine the material. (This wasn’t long after it happened.) I reckon he knew then what his limitations were.

The WSW were at least savvy enough to query 9/11. But when covid came … well it’s enough to make you think there is a very sophisticated kind of “onion game” where you keep thinking you’ve found the basic level of actual resistance and you can trust it – only to find yourself betrayed when it peels away to reveal another fraud.

Edith
Edith
Aug 18, 2021 10:15 PM

Has anyone seen a video of the British parliament meeting to discuss the Afghan crisis? ,…all packed in, a couple of masks…. No covid or delta there….

and I also see German drs are folding clinics…does this mean they have their % or had enough?….the date of 30 sept as an end seemed to pop up…has the narrative changed completely…and China seems to be threatening to take Taiwan ….is this another part of the give away? Things seem to be on the move except for Australia….where we are still well into this covid, delta shit…and NZ figs are showing death by suicide far far greater than death by covid but that hasn’t stopped them from joining us…

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 18, 2021 11:04 PM
Reply to  Edith

Haven’t seen that. But not surprised. I sure hope Australia shakes its delirium off soon. There’s this mask insanity in place in Brisbane indefinitely by the look of it. Which means I can’t get any work.

Martha
Martha
Aug 19, 2021 3:39 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

I was on a Zoom this afternoon with a group of 10 people, 1 of whom is an MD in Australia. She believes the whole story — the thing, the variants, the shots that will protect people from the thing and the variants, the necessary lockdowns. She’s so serious and worried. Did I mention that she’s also a psychic? Yes, I guess it’s possible to get bad information through extrasensory means.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Aug 19, 2021 5:34 AM
Reply to  Martha

Either that, or like most “psychics”, she’s delusional and full of shit.

Paul
Paul
Aug 18, 2021 11:29 PM
Reply to  Edith

Images from parliament today and from the G7 tell us the political & medical establishment don’t believe their own propaganda.

The ‘rules’ were never meant for them.
They’re reserved for us – the plebs.

Claret
Claret
Aug 19, 2021 6:04 PM
Reply to  Edith

‘Has anyone seen a video of the British parliament meeting to discuss the
Afghan crisis? ,…all packed in, a couple of masks…. No covid or delta
there….’

…..
There are also very large crowds at football games in the UK. I don’t know how many hundreds of thousands that is every week…many of them travelling up and down the country. Many of them will also be in the busy pubs before the games.Home and away fans often mix in certain pubs. I haven’t been to a live match for ages, but from the crowds I’ve seen on TV over the last couple of months,not many are mask-wearers.
Most are very likely already injected of course, but you can still get on matches without a ‘vax-pass’….I was told by a friend in the UK.

fame
fame
Aug 18, 2021 9:21 PM

My wife went to Tallinn the other day. She decided to go out to eat. She was asked for a vaccine passport and told that she would have to sit in the non-vaccinated section so she left. At the next restaurant, she was told she couldn’t be served. All this came as a shock to her as she was unaware of any government restrictions (We ignore the corrupt and controlled gov’t as much as possible and do not have tv or radio.We do not know what else, we are restricted from). Where we live very few wear masks, I think I went for two months without seeing anyone in a mask, but now we begin to see them creeping back in. I heard that on 23August there is an action to set up a Baltic chain— to begin to start to put an end to the tyranny playing out before our eyes—of people through the Baltic states, similar to what was done prior to the end of Soviet times.

exiled off mainstreet
exiled off mainstreet
Aug 18, 2021 8:47 PM

After Diderot we will have true liberty when the last establishment fascist politician of whatever system party is strangled in the entrails of the last fascist public health doctor or spokeswoman of the covid system.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Aug 18, 2021 9:27 PM

A chain-linked fence of intestine around the town square. Foul but just. Our stomachs must be stronger than theirs.

(Fiction, as ever. China Miéville is your man for inspirational resistance ideas)

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 18, 2021 9:51 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Only read one of China’s books, Perdido Street Station, but it was fab.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Aug 18, 2021 8:36 PM

I think your definition of propaganda is too broad. I was brought up to believe that it is information that’s designed to shape attitudes by the manipulation of emotional responses. A typical example of this in action is the way that the epithet ‘Nazi’ is freely banded about in Internet threads — the vast majority of people know little to nothing about the historical context, background and ideology of Nazism and similar movements, instead we all just know that its bad. (Another way of putting it is that any time that someone holds a conviction, especially a negative one, but at the same time can’t articulate their position you can bet that it was planted by propaganda.)

One of the most creative and best exponents of propaganda was Dr. Gobbells. He understood the relationship between culture and propaganda, disliking crude anti-Semetic tropes in favor of ‘pro-values’ entertainment. His artistry is overlooked by many because of the cause it served but the tools and techniques he refined have been used consistently since then to shape attitudes among the population as whole. If you look critically at a lot of mass entertainment you’d shy away from a lot of media because of the messages it sends — for example, the current anti-science mindset can be easily traced back to the entertainment served up in the 1970s and 80s. So next time you see a Bond movie or one of the endless series of Avengers don’t just treat it as a bit of harmless fun, look at the messaging behind the movie, what it says about us and our relationships with the world. You can still be entertained, but watch out for those messages!

Paul
Paul
Aug 18, 2021 11:31 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

I don’t often agree with you but you make a lot of good points in your summary.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Aug 19, 2021 12:02 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

If you look critically at a lot of mass entertainment you’d shy away from a lot of media because of the messages it sends — for example, the current anti-science mindset can be easily traced back to the entertainment served up in the 1970s and 80s.

Quit TV/radio forever at sixteen. Never a fan of Hollywood, in recent years I’ve also pretty much given up on the film productions of the entire Anglosphere…

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 19, 2021 3:46 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Agree with you Martin. A lot of predictive programming has been going on as well. Should I mention The Simpsons, Black Mirror, One By One, The X Files just to name a handful.
For the record, I won’t watch anything that comes out of Hollywood, nor do I watch TV shows anymore. In fact my TV is turned off 99% of the time except to watch one of my dvds (all independent, non mainstream films). Also took note of what you said that the term Nazi is being bandied about by people that know little to nothing about the historical context.