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Propaganda, Character Assassination & the Campaign Against Prof David Miller

Dr Piers Robinson

Audio Version New Feature!

On October 1st 2021, the University of Bristol decided to buckle in the face of a near 3 year-long pro-Israel lobby campaign and fire Professor David Miller.

I have worked with David for many years now, co-published work on the theory of propaganda, researched and written about the UK FCO propaganda operation (ongoing) that has sought to overthrow the Syrian government, and developed the fledgling Organisation for Propaganda Studies.

David was, is, and will continue to be, a major intellectual force with respect to our understanding of propaganda, and his integrity, particularly in relation to the Israel-Palestine issue, is now cemented in history. He became a voice for the Palestinians, highlighting the ways in which propaganda has worked in order to simultaneously suppress public understanding of the nefarious actions of the Israeli government against them and erase awareness of their plight.

Inevitably and predictably he became an essential target for the pro-Israel lobby and the implementation of a remarkably sustained and aggressive campaign designed to falsely smear him as ‘anti-Semitic’ and have him fired.

I also have a relationship with the University of Bristol. I studied for my MSc in International Relations back in 1996-97 (funded by the Economic and Social Research Council [ESRC]) and continued in 1997 to undertake a PhD (also ESRC funded) under the supervision of Professor Eric Herring. I left at the end of the 2nd year of the PhD to take up my first full-time academic post at the University of Liverpool, School of Politics and Communication Studies. My PhD was awarded in 2000 from the University of Bristol.

Smear campaigns and character assassination are a core feature of contemporary propaganda and our ‘democratic’ landscape. There is even an academic Handbook on the tactic, titled The Routledge Handbook of Character Assassination and Reputation Management, whilst US investigative journalist Sharyl Atkinson has provided a powerful account detailing how legitimate political views are stifled through nefarious attempts to destroy reputations.

I have witnessed this tactic first hand through my experience researching propaganda and the war on Syria.

For the ‘thought crime’ of questioning and researching UK government-linked ‘influence operations’ in that war, in particular the controversy over the OPCW (Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons) and the alleged chemical weapon attack in Douma 2018, myself and other colleagues (including David), have been subjected to aggressive and continuous smearing some of which is documented here.

Even when OPCW whistleblower scientists emerged and corroborated what we had been saying, those attacking us have simply continued with accusations of our being ‘conspiracy theorists’, ‘war crime deniers’ and agents of ‘disinformation’. That smear campaign also now incorporates OPCW whistleblowers with attempts to blacken their reputations.

What we see today is not completely new and David’s experience is not an isolated one.

In an earlier era, scientists such as Professor Steven Jones were smeared and pushed from their positions when raising perfectly objective, evidence-based and rational questions regarding 9/11. Chemist and laboratory director Kevin Ryan was fired for blowing the whistle on his own company which had obfuscated evidence related to the building collapses that occurred on 9/11.

To this day, and as Dr David Hughes has recently detailed in an academic journal, mainstream academia continues to self-censor and avoid substantial analysis of 9/11.

Today, with Covid-19, we now appear to be seeing an unprecedented level of attacks on academics who have raised what are, again, perfectly objective, evidence-based and rational questions regarding the efficacy of lockdowns and the drive toward coerced/mandated injections.

High profile and leading academics such as Sunetra Gupta (University of Oxford) and even Professor Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA technology used in the current Covid-19 injection, have had to battle concerted drives to discredit them, with, for example, Gupta being accused of being a ‘conspiracy theorist’.

Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, an early critic of lockdown, has been accused of anti-Semitism in what appears to be a wildly ill-founded and crude attempt to discredit his expertise.

The assault on professional autonomy appears to be accelerating rapidly with Professor Robert Malone declaring in October 2021 that:

[p]hysicians who speak out are being actively hunted via medical boards and the press. They are trying to delegitimize and pick us off one by one…This is happening globally.”

Something is indeed ‘rotten in the state of Denmark’.

In David’s case we have seen how powerful actors, in this case the pro-Israel lobby and the Israeli government, have worked to organize and influence in order to build sufficient pressure on the University of Bristol so that they would take the extreme step of firing him.

The campaign has been huge and drawn upon both mainstream media and celebrity influencers, as well as student bodies, in order to relentlessly misrepresent his work as anti-Semitic when, in truth, David’s views and work are based on a clear commitment against racism and discrimination.

It is worth noting that an independent report from a QC, commissioned by the University of Bristol, concluded that Professor Miller’s comments did not constitute unlawful speech and had also explicitly determined his remarks were not anti-Semitic. And, in all of this controversy, the progressive destruction of the Palestinian people and the illegal actions of the state of Israel government continue unabated.

Of course, it is this wider issue that those attacking David most want us all to forget. By allowing itself to play along with a nefarious campaign to smear and cancel David, the University of Bristol has become an important element in what are widely acknowledged to be crimes and atrocities. In doing so the University has clearly placed itself on the wrong side of history.

Smear campaigns and character assassination, then, are nothing new; but they are now intensified to the point that academics such as David are being fired, and high-profile scientists even from the medical sciences are targeted. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression cannot flourish in this environment and nor can academia, especially when rational debate is being supplanted with propaganda and politicized science.

Our ability to evaluate, debate, and speak truth to power are being fundamentally undermined and, along with that, so is any pretence that we live in a functioning democracy. That the University of Bristol has become an active participant in these nefarious processes should be a source of shame for all those who work there. For sure, the memories of my time there are forever tarnished and I will never again think fondly of my postgraduate days at Bristol nor speak in positive terms about the institution.

David’s experience is part of a wider process across democracies whereby power has sought to wrestle control of both professional classes and publics. We will now see, in the coming years, who will prevail.

Trust in institutions, whether government, mainstream media or academia, is likely to decline and rapidly so. And we are now living in an era when there are unprecedented opportunities for the development of new institutions in which freedom of expression and speaking truth to power are cherished, promoted and protected.

The vibrant independent media scene and increasingly discredited mainstream media are good examples of these dynamics although, as Glen Greenwald explains here, there is a concerted drive by political power and corporate media to regain control; I doubt they will ever succeed.

The pro-Israel lobby and the University of Bristol might think that they have secured a major victory in their campaign to silence critical debate on Israel, but they will not have the last word and, certainly, they will not have succeeded in silencing Professor Miller nor putting a stop to his essential work.

Despite the personal loss, and unlike the University of Bristol, Professor Miller will emerge stronger and more influential than ever.

A petition in support of Professor Miller can be signed here.
Dr Piers Robinson is co-Director of the Organisation for Propaganda Studies, convenor of the Working Group on Syria, Media and Propaganda and associated researcher with the Working Group on Propaganda and the 9/11 ‘Global War on Terror.

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Tim
Tim
Oct 23, 2021 1:43 PM

All of this applies to anyone daring to cast a critical eye over the official WW2 claims for the big H.
Some narratives are just too sacred to be questioned even for those dare devils that question narratives.
I think the general acceptance by most people that the big H may not face critical enquiry was the death knell for free speech and free expression in the Western world, from here the list of that which may not be challenged has only grown.

As a quick thought experiment do we imagine that the powers that be demand that critics of the big H are silenced and punished because the big H narrative can stand scrutiny or because their claims would collapse faster than a little a little pig’s straw house?

Of course my even raising the issue of not being allowed to raise this issue will likely result in my being censored from an article written about cansorship.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 23, 2021 3:09 PM
Reply to  Tim

We ask that commenters deal sensitively with such a topic, grounded in a disciplined academic objectivism. Any hint of racial or ethno-religious slurring, profiling or other such bigotry or bias will have to be removed. This site is accessible to so many, we really can’t have a tiny minority of very hateful, Jew-hating neo-nazis exerting disproportionate control over our readership, since this issue is viewed as controversial and distasteful by many, and which is unfortunately why we have to be very clear with people if they overstep this line.

This is one reason why our comment policy against hateful posts exists. We aim serve the interests of as many readers as possible, by making Offg as accessible as possible, while staying ruthlessly committed to the truth in the issues we cover.

Thank you.

A2

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 23, 2021 4:10 AM

You’ll go from being an ultra-fit mountain-biker to an invalid who can barely walk to the grocery store; but you’ll be happy! It seems that Youtube are now having to acknowledge (and manage) at least some of the reality of vaxx damage.

Kyle & April – Ride MTB
268K subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4eegkSVzV56kTrSpvL6BKQ

Kyle’s vaccine experience
Oct 21, 2021
Dr. John Campbell
Pericarditis after vaccination, possible inadvertent intravenous administration.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 23, 2021 4:57 AM

Kyle’s account of being “lucky” to have the pericarditis discovered early is similar to that of speed-skater, Kjeld Nuis. Maybe this is a narrative they’re trying to float.

https://netherlandsnewslive.com/kjeld-nuis-recovered-well-from-inflamed-pericardium-after-vaccination-ice-skating/202976
Kjeld Nuis recovered well from inflamed pericardium after vaccination
July 21, 2021
These were exciting times for Nuis, after he started experiencing severe flu symptoms and chest pressure a week after his first vaccination with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. He himself raised the alarm with his doctor and cardiologist. Research in the hospital showed that the 31-year-old skater was struggling with an inflamed pericardium.
“Fortunately, my sports doctor was there very early and examined me well together with the cardiologist. I was immediately able to go the next day and after a heart film, ultrasound and an MRI everything seems to be fine!” he writes today.
Last week it seemed that Nuis could just join the training camp of team Reggeborgh. . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjeld_Nuis
Kjeld Nuis (born in Leiden 10 November 1989) is a Dutch speed skater.[1] Nuis specializes over the middle distances of 1000 and 1500 meters. At the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang, he won the gold medal at the 1500 m and 1000 m events. He is the current holder of the world record over 1500 meters. . . . On 19 December 2018 Nuis was named Dutch Sportsman of the Year 2018 at the NOC NSF Sport Gala.

hotrod31
hotrod31
Oct 22, 2021 12:48 PM
Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 20, 2021 11:39 PM

By my comment below – I do not wish to side with anyone other than the oppressed – in this case Palestinians. But I should add that I agree with the tone of this article that academics are being silenced. If Miller is one of the people unfairly silenced I would be very interested to understand how that tribunal played out.

In education, you have to be very careful what you say. Just as everywhere these days. Hmmmm.

Andrew
Andrew
Oct 20, 2021 11:08 PM

Love the audio! It is now the standard operating proceedure for governments to black PR anyone who critises the official narative, using psychological techniques and downright lies to “cancel” the brave and principled individual.

Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 20, 2021 11:02 PM

I feel it is an extremely tricky area of public comment to speak on the topic of Jews/Israelis/Zionists. Perhaps it would be better to discuss the professed policies or behaviours of for example ‘many people who affiliate with Zionism promote x’ or ‘the Israeli government has done y’ and ‘people of Jewish faith traditionally have been seen to support z’. This seems entirely reasonable to me, and a sure fire way of making sure any professor worth their salt will not fall foul. If however an academic said ‘Zionists say’ – you are labelling a group in a way that can’t be substantiated. It’s like saying ‘Germans like beer’. It essentialises a group of people and that is not acceptable either academically or under law as it is enacted via the education system in the UK.

Citations would need to be included for any references to what ‘people of Jewish faith traditionally have believed’, and if controversial, other opinions likewise put forward. Actually, even E = MC 2 would need alternatives put forward. 2 + 2 however would not (ha ha).

In this case given the history of the Jews, it will always be controversial for obvious reasons.

From what I know of this case, if Miller has not stuck to the letter of law/academia he will fall.

It takes an extremely careful person to not essentialise when one is talking of cultural/national matters. It is entirely possible he delivered on this subject in bias as I have outlined above.

Given the frankly outrageous treatment of Palestinians which I have read about from UN reports, it would be hard even for an academic to not fall foul of the system.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 20, 2021 10:30 PM

Focussed Protection

https://anti-empire.com/moscow-mayor-restricts-unvaccinated-over-60s-to-their-towerblock-apartments-for-the-next-4-months
Moscow Mayor Restricts 2 Million Unvaccinated Over 60s to Their Towerblock Apartments Until Spring
4 months is the sentence, unvaccination is the crime

StopKoronavirus.rf:
Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin introduced new restrictions due to the situation with the coronavirus in the city. He announced this in his blog on October 19. In particular, starting from October 25, Muscovites over the age of 60 and citizens suffering from chronic diseases must observe a home regimen, while, as the mayor specified, those vaccinated or who have had COVID-19 over the past 6 months are exempt from the need to follow a home regimen. This measure will be valid until February 25, 2022.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Oct 21, 2021 3:47 AM

How appalling.

shamen
shamen
Oct 22, 2021 7:33 PM

IF China or Russia were ACTUALLY “our enemy”, they wouldn’t be going along w/this absurd covid charade. They would be EXPOSING the lies & destroying the govts of the west for perpetrating it. That country vs. country stuff is as fake as the Dem vs Republican crap.;legalman

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
Oct 20, 2021 10:12 PM

One of the many definitions of ‘anti-semitism’ that Israel has created to shield itself from criticism is holding Israel to standards not applied to any other country.

So anyone who uses the law to shield Israel, and only Israel, is an anti-semite by Israel’s own definition.

“Anti-semitic, it is a trick we always use it”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

The ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card.

Jesper
Jesper
Oct 20, 2021 8:04 PM

I wonder is the audio version a work of AI or an actual human speaking?

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 21, 2021 2:52 PM
Reply to  Jesper

Text to voice is established technology. It’s not AI. This one is quite good, but there are a few giveaways.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 20, 2021 6:12 PM

John O’Looney, Funeral Director: The Evidence Is Utterly Damning

ResistanceGB

An in-person interview with John O’Looney, a whistle-blowing funeral director whose interview with Max Igan on the 16th September 2021 went viral. He talks about seeing more and more injection recipients coming into his undertakers, including an abnormal increase of younger people dying of heart attacks, multiple organ failure and unexplained sudden death. He talks about being summoned to a meeting in London on the 21st September, along with other professionals such as Dr. Dolores Cahill, Dr. Tess Lawrie and Mark Yeadon, to submit evidence and testimony to Graham Brady, Chairman of the 1922 Committee – evidence that he says is “utterly damning”. John has been suspended from the Society of Allied and Independent Funeral Directors for his honesty.

Saturday 9th October 2021, Milton Keynes
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CDs2KPxWSjvw

As far as I know, this is the earliest interview with O’Looney.

Revive Yourself: John O’Looney Full interview
Jul 18, 2021
Emergency Episode With Undertaker John O’Looney Who Shares The Truth
Today’s episode was brought about when I was tagged in a letter that an undertaker had put on social media, explaining his experience throughout the last 16 months, where amongst other things, he explained there had been no excess deaths, and he hadn’t seen a C death in 3 months. After seeing this letter, I knew I had to contact this man and speak to him … so that is exactly what I did.
That man was John O’Looney, from Milton Keynes, and after a brief conversation where John said he had been humbled by the amount of people that had reached out, he said he would love to be interviewed. In the interview we discussed:
John’s background as an undertaker
What made John finally speak out
The amount of deaths he had seen over the last year
How many ‘C’ deaths he has dealt with recently
The tactics he encountered from a government sponsored person
When he did see death rates spike
How he has managed to stay healthy even though he has been dealing with ‘C’ bodies
The deaths he has seen from the jabs
Where he sees this going all going & a lot more
It was fantastic talking to John. He is a fantastic guy with a big heart, who clearly only wants the best for people.

[Interview starts @ 5:50]

shamen
shamen
Oct 20, 2021 9:06 PM

O LOONEY LOL

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Oct 22, 2021 12:26 AM

As far as I know, this is the earliest interview with O’Looney.

Revive Yourself: John O’Looney Full interview

Jul 18, 2021

The Richie Allen Show Monday July 5th 2021

EPISODE DESCRIPTION

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Richie is joined by John O’Luanaigh and Clive Menzies. 

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John O’Luanaigh runs a funeral home in Milton Keynes. He’s very highly rated, with hundreds of 5-star Google reviews and is ranked among the top three funeral directors by his peers. John wrote an open letter to politicians and the media. He believes that the covid-19 death figures have been inflated and that the death numbers for 2020, were no worse than previous years. He also believes that there was a spike in deaths in February of this year, when the vaccine roll-out expanded. This is a must-listen interview. 

http://www.mkffs.co.uk

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 22, 2021 1:48 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

Thank you. I presume I didn’t find it because of the different spelling: O’Luanaigh

BTW: it starts at 1:01

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Oct 22, 2021 4:13 AM

That was a good idea, mentioning when it starts!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Oct 20, 2021 4:22 PM

Erm… Please define “unlawful speech“. Apparently, the anti-Semitic meme has grown big, long, hairy, spider legs…

The Freedom of Speech clause must have been purchased as a derivative of some corporate portfolio… Jus’ sayin’…

Judith
Judith
Oct 20, 2021 12:48 PM

I’m surprised Prof. Robinson did not mention Mark Crispin Miller, Professor at NYU who teaches a course on Propoganda, and who has appeared on this site.

MCM has also been – well, if not fired, “chastised” – and brought to task in what I would consider a set-up regarding masks et al.

He is suing his peers.

Very sad and frightening what has happened to colleges and universities in this country. The very place where young people should be guided to think for themselves, a place for open discourse, whether appealing or not.

On the other hand, those young people are learning first hand what happens when you buck the system.

Many of us learned that back in the sixties.

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
Oct 20, 2021 12:59 PM
Reply to  Judith

I was going to make the same comment about MCM. Notable that experts in propaganda are being attacked in this way — the ‘authorities’ are clearly afraid of them, an encouraging sign of weakness.

kidocelot
kidocelot
Oct 20, 2021 11:52 AM

The new audio is fantastic 😊

Terje M
Terje M
Oct 20, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  kidocelot

It would be great if we were able to download the audio as well, to listen to while doing other things.

expert42
expert42
Oct 20, 2021 11:37 AM

Ask yourself this: what’s the difference between what the jews are doing to the palestinians and what the uk has done to iraq, syria, afghanistan, pakistan, india, and all the others? It’s ironic that people sitting in air conditioned university offices would say “look those people are bad guys” when they themselves are a part of an equally evil machine. Universities create the next generation of overlords for the oppressed. An endless stream of the “I’ve got a degree and should therefore have a better life than you” brigade, almost all of which are utterly useless in real terms and never do a real day’s work in their entire life. Numerous bean counters, administrators, managers, civil servants, endless ‘experts’ on just about everything and masters of nothing. Why care about the person in the article but not give a thought to the homeless or those driven to prostitution and worse? Your entire way of thinking is upside down. The man has £100,000s in the bank, perhaps millions. He’s hardly going to starve is he? Any fool can see that the jews are committing genocide. You don’t need this ‘expert’ to tell you.

shamen
shamen
Oct 20, 2021 1:00 PM
Reply to  expert42

OFF G discussing the Poor ! err nope Professor David Miller.is far to important!

the Public Interest Law Centre: What is normal for universal credit

Our client received this message on his #universalcredit online account this week.

As if it wasn’t hard enough to claim UC…

(Point 5 is what kidnappers do, which seems appropriate.)

Are others getting these messages?

‘Further to today’s phone call, I now require you to provide the following information. If you don’t provide all of the information that we’ve requested your claim will be closed. 1. A photo of your ID card or passport open on the photo page. 2. A photo of your ID card or passport open on the photo page held next to your face. 3. A photo of you stood outside the front door (open behind you) of the property you live at. Ask someone to take this from the street so that whole property can be seen. 4. A photo of you stood next to your street sign with your right hand holding it. Ask someone to take this photo from a few metres away so that the background can be clearly seen. 5. A photo of you holding your local newspaper for the area you live (not a national tabloid newspaper). This should be dated the same day you upload the photo. Please note, once you upload these details, we may still require you to attend a Jobcentre appointment before any consideration is given to awarding your Universal Credit. I’ve created an upload in your To Do list …’
https://twitter.com/publiclawcentre/status/1448677001351553035

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 20, 2021 8:28 PM
Reply to  shamen

they had us do #1 & #2 with a phone interview as an ID check a few months back, but not the rest of that BS I woulda told them to fuck off.

shamen
shamen
Oct 20, 2021 9:07 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

new normal. unbelievable latest UC evil.

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
Oct 20, 2021 1:07 PM
Reply to  expert42

the jews

Not a good idea to conflate Israel with Jews in general, a proportion of whom (in Israel as well) are sympathetic to the Palestinians’ plight. Indeed this conflation has been deliberately exploited by Zionists to tar anyone critical of anything whatever done by the State of Israel as ‘anti-Semitic’ (see, for example, J. Corbyn of recent memory and his resistance to the IHRA’s definition of anti-Semitism).

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 20, 2021 1:11 PM
Reply to  Simon Dutton

Excellent point well made. A2

Bill Johnson
Bill Johnson
Oct 20, 2021 11:34 AM

I really wish we could get a coherent, like front to back understanding of what is going on. Like an entire course of series of lectures. This person on bitchute seems to be starting that, don’t necessarily agree with everything but I wish more people would develop a framework for thinking about these topics like this. The videos are not posted in order but are labeled in order: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/6id1zwExQhTt/

jont
jont
Oct 20, 2021 11:07 AM

In all these cases it is an individual being attacked by an institution. The actual movers are allowed to be anonymous, hidden behind a corporate façade. It would help to name them.

shamen
shamen
Oct 20, 2021 10:47 AM

U.K during the full moon harvest ritual (amazing how they pick the dates) they extended another 6 months yesterday (hardly A MURMUR)

TODAY

Professor Adam Finn, who sits on the JCVI,The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) tells #BBCBreakfast the vaccine programme and booster jabs will not be enough to prevent rising cases. SAY WHAT!

Plan B, according to Muppet Health Secretary Sajid Javid, would see mask wearing in public places mandated, working from home encouraged again and even the introduction of vaccine passports to reduce the spread of your movements . etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

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New Nane
New Nane
Oct 20, 2021 10:19 AM
Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Oct 20, 2021 1:29 PM
Reply to  New Nane

Gone to Mexico. And did you hear what’s in store for QLD? They are “letting the virus in” so get injected.

Ort
Ort
Oct 20, 2021 9:59 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Mexico? I hope he stays on his toes.

It brings Trotsky to mind.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Oct 20, 2021 11:21 PM
Reply to  Ort

Well he could always come out here to the highlands with the native rebels – doesn’t have to be in the big city with masons (apparently Diego and Frieda were)

rubberheid
rubberheid
Oct 20, 2021 7:42 PM
Reply to  New Nane

can we crowd fund a chopper to Mehico? : ) [target .. locked] lol

i’ve thoroughly enjoyed jeff and max, but they are becoming some reality show..???… so i think in my cynical mode.

I’ll take that chopper ride ; ) see what happens,

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 9:44 AM

“there is a concerted drive by political power and corporate media to regain control; I doubt they will ever succeed.”

Dr.Robinson echoes the hope expressed by Hilaire Belloc a century ago in “The Free Press”, his book on the struggle between Truther media and Mainstream media:

“Truth died in the war [WW1] and was replaced by propaganda. If a newspaper tells you something happened then all it means is that some businessman wants you to think that it happened.”

Belloc found that when the MSM refuse to do real investigative journalism, it lays a heavy onus on the reader because it is more difficult to sift truth from tiny alternative media than from a large public site. Nevertheless, he called these toilsome little sites The Free Press. In this, Belloc was rediscovering the truth of an age-old Bantu fable:

“In the beginning, God each animal to choose its gift. The antelope chose speed, the lion chose strength, the monkey chose mischief. When the tortoise arrived there was only one gift left: a jar with The Truth, which nobody else wanted. Off trundled the tortoise carrying The Truth on his shell. But a storm blew up, the jar fell off and smashed on a rock, and its contents were swept away by the wind and the rain. And that is why we find The Truth all over the place but only a little piece of it.”

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 20, 2021 10:20 AM
Reply to  NickM

+5

Lozzer
Lozzer
Oct 21, 2021 8:12 AM
Reply to  NickM

Plus 10

Peter Schmidt
Peter Schmidt
Oct 20, 2021 9:05 AM

Just came out today, from the European Journal of Epidemiology (Harvard contributed to the study as well, re the US data): Increases in Covid -19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination in 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States. In fact the higher the percentage of fully vaccinated, the more COVID cases there are. 
As I mentioned yesterday, Pfizer and Moderna at best has 40 to 60 efficacy (according to a report leaked to the WP) and that is not enough to achieve herd immunity. All it does is to create new variants, that will spread among the elderly and immuno compromised.  
Emerging scientific evidence suggest that vaccines are not enough, hospitals need to use medications to treat patients. 
The figures we were given regarding the efficacy of the vaccines were based on very low sample data, in controlled environment. BTW there is no real data on the effect of vaccines on children. 
THE STUDY SAID THAT THE USE OF VACCINES NEED TO BE RE-EXAMINED. 

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 20, 2021 9:31 AM
Reply to  Peter Schmidt

and if you consider 40-60% of people already havea high level of crossover immunity from the 6 known endemic coronavirus ( even 40% of wild deer have antibodies)…

that effectiveness figure looks even more dodgy

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 20, 2021 10:44 AM
Reply to  Peter Schmidt

Oh, and what a surprise, after banning effective, cheap, off-patent medicines, we are about to be told to stump up for hugely expensive, new, on-patent medicines from Big Pharma.

It is treason for anyone in the NHS to take such a line and any senior policy maker licensed to practice medicine who does so should meet a truly sorry end….

fame
fame
Oct 20, 2021 11:08 AM
Reply to  Peter Schmidt

The PCR covid case is fraud. The more likely people are to get the gene death-therapy, the more likely they are to take the PCR fraud. No study needed. Why do we keep presenting information about case differences between “vaxxed” and “unvaxxed”! As the PCR result is meaningless, the case difference is meaningless. The study and its presentation part of the false narrative.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 20, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  fame

There is no such thing as sars2 or covid and never has been

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 11:02 PM
Reply to  Peter Schmidt

At last, a meeting with reality. Every chicken farmer knows you can’t beat corona flu with a vaccine. Every GP knows it — 20% of annual flu viruses are Corona; doesn’t stop the medical profession handing out annual flu shots to a demanding public. Fortunately, because of our natural immunity from co-existing with corona viruses for hundreds of thousands of years, this Covid-2019 turns out to be no more deadly than normal annual Covid flu.

Which does not mean that the U$ regime should allow Dr.Fauci to continue funding Gain of Function projects which turn natural corona into a Fauci Frankenstein Virus. The world was fortunate that Covid-2019 turned out to be no more deadly than ordinary annual Covid. But we might not be so lucky when Fauci’s next little pet escapes from one of the 100-odd Bioweapons Labs dotted around the world (they seem to be situated everywhere except in the good old U$A).

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 21, 2021 3:21 AM
Reply to  Peter Schmidt

Here are some facts which many or most on this site already know.
1) The purported SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated.
2) Since it has never been isolated it has never been proven either to exist or cause disease.
3) The perpetrator of the cv-1984 rt-PCR test, Christian Drosten, is a total fraud.

Here is the Wikipedia dogshit on his higher education:

He did his doctorate at the Institute for transfusion medicine and immunohaematology of the German Red Cross (DRK) blood donation service Hessen in Frankfurt am Main. His dissertation (Dr. med.) on the establishment of a high-throughput system for testing blood donors was rated summa cum laude.

However, one cannot obtain this summa cum laude dissertation because the university claims that it lost its only copy.

4) It has been admitted that the SARS-CoV-2 virus genome was never deconstructed properly in the lab but was pieced together by computer algorithms from genetic acid fragments of the lung soup glop aspirated from one “victim” in Wuhan. It has a similarity of only 79% to the genetic structure of the original SARS virus of 2002 fame. Its structure was determined literally by a vote by a committee of “experts.” (Strange as this may seem, I did not learn this from reading The Onion.)

With all this fraud, we can have little doubt that we are facing a global psy-ops by our psychopathic, billionaire and trillionaire overlords.

So here is my speculation on the whole operation which frankly I have not seen elucidated previously, and I’ll make it short and sweet. The spike protein was designed and tested for all its aspects of short term and long term toxicity in deep black labs. When they decided that they were satisfied that it would do the job in the global depopulation operation, they instructed the shitheads who constructed the computer algorithms which derived the fake virus’s molecular structure to locate this spike protein as the part that attached to the ACE-2 receptors. The mRNA, or in the case of Sputnik, the DNA, was back engineered from the spike protein.

So the bottom line is that the spike protein is a bioweapon designed and tested over decades. The virus is a computer generated hoax which primary purpose was to act as a pretext for injecting as many people as possible with this toxic kill shot. I also am sure from their previous track records that all females born to the vaxxed will be infertile. I also find it likely that these “vaccines” contain the reverse transcriptase enzyme of rt-PCR fame which allows some of the mRNA to transform to its DNA analogue and embed itself into the chromosomes of the vaxxed. This would mean that there would be no diminution of spike protein production over time and that the body of the vaxxed could not get ride of this shite. Also, if embedded in germ cells, it could be passed on in the DNA of offspring. Say it ain’t so, Joe!

NickM
NickM
Oct 21, 2021 10:28 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

For what MHO is worth, I say it ain’t necessarily so.

https://youtu.be/kP5O_NUhrK0?t=2

Nevertheless, it is still a crime to inject insufficiently tested and possible harmful substances into mass population.

Tim
Tim
Oct 23, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  Peter Schmidt

This will be spun to mean that new vaccines are needed to deal with the problem.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 20, 2021 8:25 AM

Bristol has been stacking the staff roster with globalist gobshites for years, easy to spot as they usually come wtih a Royal Society research fellowship, and appearences on the BBC pushing one or other globalist scam. Here’s one odious example…

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/28/stephan-lewandowsky-flees-australia-in-wake-of-investigations/

I would be interested to know if Prof Miller & Stephen Lewandowsky crossed swords.

I should think Prof Miller should be glad to see the back of the place given his penchant for ethics. Given the QC opinion he can brandish at a judge, I expect a substantial unfair dismissal compensation payment will ease the wounds somewhat.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 20, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  ImpObs

He should sue the University for everything he can get. It should be 50% of the entire endowment to teach them a lesson they richly deserve….

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 20, 2021 8:20 AM

Just watched a Gove surrounded by evil protesters video. First he was surrounded by the MSM, the police may have been second. None were readily identifiable as protesters

shamen
shamen
Oct 20, 2021 12:50 PM
Reply to  Orthus

staged. just like at Tory conference 2 weeks back 5 anti what ever managed too bypass mi5 and security to hit one of them with a cone.(Sir Iain Duncan Smith Five people have been arrested following an alleged assauLT.)
or the stage nonsense of chris whitty being headlocked or 50 BLM following pete shillken.

Its job is to make out how dangerous their jobs are and get sympathy so they can ramp up more orhell.
hate us for our freedom crap.

its aimed at the ‘psychosis voter types’ they seem to sell/shill this as facts! repeated by shill alt media who promotes it as facts.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 20, 2021 7:21 AM

 It appears graphene oxide is in the vax as an electromagnetic inducer via 5G. [Allows one’s location to be pinpointed.] I’ve verified that PubMed confirms graphene oxide as an ingredient in OTHER vaxxes. At least 3 labs have confirmed the presence of metallic nanoparticles in vaccines, plus the Japanese rejected a million doses due to contamination, AND made a comment about some samples being “magnetic.”

There are numerous reports of magnets sticking to vaxxed arms, or heads. However, this is not consistent. I NEED TO KNOW IF THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY IS DUE TO THEIR DISTANCE FROM EXISTING 5G ANTENNAS. Can anyone help to resolve this?  

Graphene Oxide has been studied as a cancer treatment, and is TARGETABLE. Which presumably includes the brain. Source was a simple comment by Dr. Lee Merritt at AAPS conference that “Nolavax that makes Matrix M says it’s targetable.” (Matrix M is a graphene oxide enhanced metal nanocomposite. [I think])

Stone Age, Bronze, Metals, Industrial Revolution, Plastics — and now Single Molecule Materials. Graphene oxide is one of these single molecule thick materials, and this may be as big as the invention of the computer. I’m pretty sure that the ability or at least the hope of using it as a neuromodulator was a necessary condition for the current end-game op.

GO is 200 times as strong as steel, but as flexible as skin. Not even the smallest molecule, Helium, can pass through the one-molecule thick sheet. But water passes through it. It can enter cells. It forms magnetic complexes with metal nanoparticles.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/killing-spree-robotization-survivors/5757755

La Quinta Columna

https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-vax-contents-2-more-docs-reveal-findings-microscopy-images/5758000  what's in the vial? transhumanism is here

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/10/no_author/vaxx-skullduggery-exposed/

 the documents are read out on Stu Peters show on LewRockwell.com Not technical; 10 minutes & will enhance your understanding of WHY they are vaxxing

Jacques
Jacques
Oct 20, 2021 7:01 AM

I’d like to commend the removal of the fucking up/down voting feature, the quintessence of the putrid nature of such despicable platforms as Fecesbuk and others that exploits the lowest human character flaws, such as narcissism.

Fuck the likes and dislikes. Liking or disliking means shit. It’s the expression of a subjective feeling. What matters is a rational, objective argument. Hence, if you agree with something, say it and explain why. Ditto if you disagree.

Clicking on thumbs up/down is an inane gesture conducive to making people be even less able to express themselves than they’re already now.

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 20, 2021 11:26 AM
Reply to  Jacques

-10

You say that because some of your posts were deservedly downvoted.

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 7:19 PM
Reply to  Jacques

-1 Foul language is less constructive than an approval rating..

Jacques
Jacques
Oct 20, 2021 8:26 PM
Reply to  NickM

What’s foul language?

Shit, fuck, cunt, motherfucker? Or the slick, smooth stuff talking politicians, media talking heads, and other motherfuckers are using to ram the covidian dystopia down your throat?

Get your priorities right! No need to shite yourself from a colloquial word here and there!

Stewart
Stewart
Oct 21, 2021 10:15 PM
Reply to  Jacques

+1 (but ironically)

Neena
Neena
Oct 22, 2021 10:08 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Don’t worry about those people who downvote you. Your comments are great and show the genuine anger towards the tyranny.

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Oct 20, 2021 11:20 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Agreed.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Oct 21, 2021 4:02 AM
Reply to  Jacques

I am disappointed with the removal of the thumbs uo/down option. We are dealing with remote communications. In the real world you can use body language to express your views. Online is very limited in that respect. I think being able to express a response to a post fosters engagement and helps people understand the group dynamic. Your complaint is a bit abstract in my view. You can always ignore the thumbs if you don’t like them, but taking them away is kind of like being muzzled.

Ort
Ort
Oct 21, 2021 8:45 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

I second your emotion!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 20, 2021 6:45 AM

If Jews don’t want violence committed against them, they had better stop preventing those highlighting Jewish violence against Palestnians from rightful employment.

Every single person who supported the campaign for the entirely disgraceful removal of Professor Miller is now a legitimate target for violence. They actively support violence of Israel and also state that anyone who opposes Israeli violence cannot work.

No-one who holds such views is fit to be an employed adult in the UK. They can all leave and go to Israel or face the consequences that their actions so richly deserve…..

Now violence is the last resort, but be in no doubt: the last resort must be implemented if Professor Miller is not reinstated AND all those who sought to oust him losing their own right to employment, permanently, in the UK…….

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 20, 2021 11:07 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Can we be careful not to appear to incite violence. Thank you, A2

Justin
Justin
Oct 20, 2021 11:50 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

It is not necessarily Jewish violence against Palestinians that is the issue, rather Zionist violence against Palestinians. Miller was aware of this distinction and is paying the price for his honesty and ethics. There are in fact many Jews who do sympathise with the Palestinians, especially the ones who have lived in Palestine for many generations and shared the land and culture.

Howard
Howard
Oct 20, 2021 4:00 PM
Reply to  Justin

I do think it greatly serves the interest of the nation of Israel to have it and its policies and actions conflated with the Jewish people in general. That way, it becomes impossible to criticize Israeli atrocities without at the same time appearing anti-Semitic.

Stewart
Stewart
Oct 21, 2021 10:42 PM
Reply to  Howard

We need to get rid of the word “anti-semitism” altogether
if you hate the jewish race, you are a racist
it’s not a “special” kind of hate and so it doesn’t require a special word
It doesn’t even make sense
the Palestinians are a “semitic” people, as are the indigenous jews
the ashkenazis (which make up the majority of the Israeli “elites” and the majority of jewish “elites” in the West) are not “semitic” at all
It is ironic, is it not, that the ashkenazis, while crying “anti-semitism” at any criticism of their genocide, are in actuality the most enthusiastic “anti-semites” at work in the world today

Edith
Edith
Oct 20, 2021 5:29 AM

I have not watched the program however it seems news Corp journo sharri markson has established that the virus…whatever it was…was circulating wuhan as early as October 2019 and took a few plane rides to Australia….I have said this all along..,

some sickness that was fairly difficult to deal with was circulating here in nth qld as early as sept 2019…I personally knew 4 people who had it, one ended up on ventilator in cairns base hospital, 2 were pretty sick and the other took it for a ride to Europe early nov 2019…

this is why I always suspected Australia had already seen it for a full 6 months before our pollies were told we had to regard it as deadly and lock the place down…if it was that deadly there would have been people dropping dead in the street by Xmas,,,however the only one I have ever known to drop dead in the street was a couple of days post being jabbed and went running…funny that..

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 20, 2021 7:15 AM
Reply to  Edith

I suspect it only became deadly when Anthony Faustus (or his bosses) realised that they had paid for it.

Edith
Edith
Oct 20, 2021 7:48 AM
Reply to  Orthus

Or they realised they could use it to crash economies and get people trained to do exactly what they want re digital currency and surveillance….then again I think they knew they would use any old cold long before 2019.

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 20, 2021 11:30 AM
Reply to  Edith

The Lockstep document was published in 2010.

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 20, 2021 12:15 PM
Reply to  Edith

This is where the Covidian Cult divides. Faustus is at least guilty of illegal funding, even the sniffles could have caused him problems. That might explain the timing.

The drug companies have been trying to develop a Sars vaccine for years, since Sars, in fact, but the failed, just as they failed to find a vaccine for the major coronavirus, the common cold. A few years ago they promoted a vaccine against feline coronavirus: it sort of worked, it killed the cats. They were, therefore finding it hard to conduct experiments, ethics committees were demanding that animals were no longer sacrificed on the off chance of finding something. A new species of lab rat was required, one that could not only consent but would turn up at the lab as required and be damn grateful.

The politicians (and chums) have done quite nicely out of the panic. Tech billionaires got to feel important. The great thing about capitalism is that there is no need for a massive conspiracy, stuff happens when sufficient people benefit.

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 7:49 PM
Reply to  Orthus

“A new species of lab rat was required, one that could not only consent but would turn up at the lab as required and be damn grateful.”

Gosh, that describes most of my friends and relatives! And here was I calling Invasion of the Body Snatchers science fiction.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 20, 2021 7:46 AM
Reply to  Edith

Markson is a fool, there is no damn virus – and the staged dropping dead was done for the ridiculous ABC

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 20, 2021 8:37 AM
Reply to  Edith

Very likely IMO, if you translate the scamdemic definition of “Asymptomatic” into the pre-scamdemic definition of “Natural immunity” it makes biological sense.

all 6 endemic coronavirus share identical epitopes our for which immune systems have a high afinity (N, ORF1) if they really wanted to make an mRNA vax that worked, one would expect them to target these epitopes, however if they wanted to make a generic mRNA carrier with high transmisability, the S protiens are more desired…. nothing to see here…move along

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 7:57 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Admin, bring back the approval button! The penny is dropping: about 20% of annual flu is caused by “endemic coronavirus”; always has been — that’s why the human race has natural “herd immunity” to our little fellow travellers.

(Sputnik vaccine; against our little Fellow Travellers. Get it? Ouch!)

Stewart
Stewart
Oct 21, 2021 10:46 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

“Asymptomatic”

We used to say “healthy”
good times

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 20, 2021 11:29 AM
Reply to  Edith

There is no evidence of a virus.

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 9:07 PM
Reply to  New Nane

There is lots of evidence of “a” virus related to common flu (“endemic Corona virus” — see post by Impartial Observer at 8.37AM). Lots of evidence of Corona sub-type S-ARS (-Acute Respiratory Distress). Just no evidence that SARS-2, the hypothetical cause of Covid-19 (a disease with symptoms remarkably similar to flu) ever existed.

Note that the Chinese doctors who were first to report their hypothetical “novel virus” SARS-2 also reported a mortality rate (NB: among patients who were ill enough to need hospitalization) similar to mortality among patients hospitalized with common flu. Most “cases” of “Covid-19” get well without hospital; survival rate is 99.9% (see OffG Fact Sheet). So don’t blame the Chinese for spreading the rumour that Covid-19 is deadlier than the Black Death; rather blame British TV Doctor Neill Ferguson, who got the figures wrong by 1,500%, and U$ TV Doctor Fauci who has an interest in hyping the terror over Covid-19 because Fauci distributes U$ Government Funds for research into Frankenstein Viruses.

dr death
dr death
Oct 20, 2021 9:44 PM
Reply to  New Nane

No… there is no evidence for so called ‘covid 9/11’ but the common cold has been around for a long time..

it was a joke at one time that you would be a rich man if you could find a ‘cure’ for the ‘common cold’.. but bill and tony are already rich men and it is still a ‘pipe dream’..

it is quite brilliant what these imbecilic lab-coats have accomplished with dirty money (though quite simple really… as befits imbeciles)..

weaponize the common cold (corona virii all carry the spike hehe, that’s why many of the herd are asymptomatic, or rather ‘have immunity’).. by leaving it alone..

but utilizing a so called vaccine (actually a witches brew of expensive experimental international crank science)…. which will destroy your immune system over the course of several doses and months..

and you will no doubt, then die of the common cold, an illness that has historically been no more than an imposition..

(compare Oz’s yearly flu rates and deaths with what paltry numbers they can generate for the microsoft coff and then look at dan the man andrews and his jab-mania and adverse reaction club)..

so remember kiddies, the more intro-venous genetic modification one takes the more damage to ones immune system…

so just say no…

dr death
dr death
Oct 20, 2021 10:13 PM
Reply to  dr death

of course, if you are on saline ‘crank’ you’ll be OK… and no inconvenient bio-weapons/ pandemic illnesses/ fake respiratory diseases to worry about …

ask the WEF because baldy and the boyz, they just ‘cranked’ ‘chateaux mouton rothschilde’… and smiled…

(a lovely 1922)..

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 7:40 PM
Reply to  Edith

Did Australian team and spectators attend the September 2019 “Military Olympic Games” held at Wuhan? At least one of the U$ team worked as a guard at U$ Bioweapons Lab, Fort Detrick, U$A; and was reported to fall sick during the games. The U$ team performed unusually badly: came second from last. Dr.Fauci’s funded Bioweapons Lab at Fort Detrick was closed by public pressure (and outsourced to Dr.Fauci’s funded Lab at Wuhan) because people living around Fort Detrick were coming down with Acute Respiratory Syndrome (ARS, as in SARS-2 virus) earlier than Sept 2019.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 20, 2021 4:03 AM

“So Billy Eugenics came for tea with Boris the Clown and the Coronavirus Act in the UK was extended for another 6 months.”
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“They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ’cause they own this f**kin’ place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on.”

~ George Carlin

DM:
DM:
Oct 20, 2021 4:35 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

I want upvotes reinstated.

Besides – lots of practical uses. If there are 200-300 comments – using the most voted gets to the better comments. Ones that don’t get uptick are the tit-for-tat comments that meander on for page after page.

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 20, 2021 6:29 AM
Reply to  DM:

No it doesn’t.
Anonymous Voting systems can be gamed by bad actors, or didn’t you figure that out in the real world yet?

jimbo
jimbo
Oct 20, 2021 7:56 AM

wadda u fraid of . . .

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 20, 2021 9:55 AM
Reply to  jimbo

Gosh, you sound just like that American bloke accusing anti-vaxxers of being cowards.

Does “chicken” work on anyoine over 21?

DM:
DM:
Oct 20, 2021 11:07 AM

Jesus! So “JustANumbersGuy” is not anonymous? Sounds like something a 77th brigade drongo would use.

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 9:42 PM

“Can be” not “is”. OffG is closer to the real world than the Guardian, and readers’ votes reflect that bias toward reality. Rather interesting, since OffG has a remarkably free and open policy on posts. Most downvotes on OffG go to posts which reflect the unreal world of the Guardian, the Beeb and Main Stream propaganda media.

“Reality, Eldest Daughter of God. Her grip, when you get to shake hands, is reassuring” — Hilaire Belloc.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Oct 21, 2021 4:09 AM

I don’t think very many people woukd waste a lot of time trying to “game” support or disagreement with a post. They are too transient. Plus the gaming would be a bit obvious if it does not match actual responses.

Ort
Ort
Oct 21, 2021 8:43 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

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Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Oct 20, 2021 7:52 AM
Reply to  DM:

Would like to up vote this.

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  DM:

I second that well-reasoned demand.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 20, 2021 4:40 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

https://www.rt.com/uk/537887-bojo-bill-gates-green-cash/

“It seems THE ROYAL MAFIA CRIME FAMILY through its agent Boris the Clown has just sold a major share of London Inc to Billy Eugenics and his war racketeer corporate fascist eugenicist oligarch mobster psycho criminal friends. Looks more and more like the people of greater London will be getting some new owners.”
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Edwige
Edwige
Oct 20, 2021 10:02 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

She, like all them Windsors, cares so much about the penguins though.

They can “intervene on the climate crisis” because that’s “apolitical”. They can take the long view unlike here-today-gone-tomorrow politicians so hereditary rule by elite bloodlines must be superior to nonsense like voting.

Any issue that’s designated “apolitical” is always a major part of the agenda, it’s one of the surest giveaways.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Oct 20, 2021 11:31 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

LOVE> This is one of your best yet Coop
And one thing the hoax has shown the parasites – they no longer have to bother to construct a facade and openly go about detonation in front of us, laughing up their sleeves.
Fuck the snowflakes who dont want to incite violence – and remember you’d still be enslaved to the patriarchs if 110 years ago groups of English women hadn’t gone the lengths of violent insurrection and endured violence against themselves for the sake of your present day freedoms

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Oct 20, 2021 5:25 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

How does something “pass” without a vote being taken? Doesn’t this mean it was extended by decree?

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 20, 2021 7:18 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Most Acts in the UK merely enable A Secretary of State to impose regulations as he sees fit from time to time. And it need not have been extended, merely not terminated (unlike the populous).

Ann Power
Ann Power
Oct 20, 2021 8:23 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Is that correct then that the extension of the Corona Act was passed by people shouting Ayes and Noes, no written answers popped into a voting box – not even a clapometer board – if so how can it be accurately assessed – this is worse than postal elections. Surely this cannot be ”””lawful”””’. I, for one will not be taking this shambolic shower seriously, FFS. Carry on regardless.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 20, 2021 11:10 AM
Reply to  Ann Power

It was a complete farce. The handful there indulged in shouting ‘aye’ and ‘no’ simultaneously because, for some reason, they thought it was a funny thing to do – like naughty schoolchildren. The female deputy speaker officiating was joining in the banter and declared, whilst chuckling, “Do I take it that you don’t really want there to be a vote?”

Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 20, 2021 10:37 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

Just wow. This legislation I’m sure had to go through a vote to remain in place – do I have to trawl through the original when I’m not sleepy tomorrow, or can someone set me straight here – pleeease!

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 20, 2021 10:50 PM
Reply to  Ravensara

I’m afraid I’m in much the same position as you on this…hopefully, someone else may be able to point us to the relevant provision.

Stewart
Stewart
Oct 21, 2021 11:05 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

I think the two or three “No”s present were possibly genuine, but they were prevented from even saying “No” by a slightly larger group of “Ayes” shouting over them.
It was, indeed, a farce, but I think it has been for a very long time, perhaps always.
For some reason they’re not even trying to hide it now.
I feel as if we are being forced into revolution – let the plebs vent their anger on MPs and the police, then hit them with the “Great Reset”?

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 22, 2021 9:37 AM
Reply to  Stewart

Indeed. “revolution” … and civil conflict. There are no indications that the PTB have the slightest concern about the latter, in fact they appear to be doing all they can to inflame it.

Edith
Edith
Oct 20, 2021 5:30 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

So the QR payment system being developed by gates for UK isn’t ready yet!,,..oh dear they will have to get a wiggle on before everyone gets bored with the game.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 20, 2021 7:47 AM
Reply to  Edith

Overnight I heard that 4.5 million Australian’s are now so poor they can barely afford food and all over .5% of people testing positive for something with a fake test and a cause of death level of 38th with an average age of 87,

Hesston Cambridge
Hesston Cambridge
Oct 20, 2021 9:25 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Devil and the Deep Blue C.

Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 20, 2021 10:30 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

That’s interesting – ‘It’s not in the mood of the House.’ Is that normal procedure do you know? When else has this kind of thing occurred? Plus I thought the original legislation required a vote upon review? Am I asking the wrong questions, or do I write to my MP or the Speaker for clarification? Does anyone know why a vote wasn’t required?

citizen
citizen
Oct 20, 2021 11:28 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

“its not the mood of the house to vote on the issue” right, ok, I will come up with that excuse next time I don’t want to do something, Its not like their job of anything, oh, wait.

Howard
Howard
Oct 20, 2021 3:43 AM

The gutting of any respect for Academia may not be an unintended consequence. One by one each institution is being not merely taken over by big money but rendered a caricature of what it’s supposed to be.

Pull all the props from beneath the people; then give them new ones purporting to put society back together – Build Back Better, with only those institutions directly and absolutely controlled by big money.

The “average Joe” hated intellectual havens like Bristol; but, even so, had some respect for them. Now he doesn’t have to respect them – the way no one need ever respect any institution that eats its own.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 20, 2021 10:08 AM
Reply to  Howard

True enough about academia – but also true of port cities in general. Remember Bristol also featured prominently in the saga over statues. They tend to be dominated by elite families that made money out of slaves and/or drugs and are using their own former crimes to push current agendas (especially the destruction of borders which they’ve always hated).

Look at Liverpool for another prime example.

Thiekbalj
Thiekbalj
Oct 20, 2021 2:36 AM

Please bring back the up/down votes. It’s main function is to sort through the comments. Those BTL already spend enough time here without having to go through each and every comment. The comments make this site great just as much if not more, as the actual articles.

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 20, 2021 6:32 AM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

A fabulous case for them remaining gone.
Believing the anonymous herd has the best choice in comments? Dangerous at the very least.

Just do a search for your favourite commenters name or something

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Oct 20, 2021 7:55 AM

If you don’t like them you are free to ignore them. For hundreds of comments its not possible to read them all. Its a tool that’s all.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 20, 2021 10:11 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

A tool that has insidious uses – site-bombing from hostile sources and building up profiles on users for starters.

If anyone let’s the up- and down-votes decide for them whether a comment’s worth reading or not then they really haven’t learnt anything from the last 18 months, let alone their entire lifetimes.

Howard
Howard
Oct 20, 2021 4:14 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Absolutely. I try to read each and every comment. Unfortunately, that’s getting easier to do – there seems to be fewer comments than a couple years back when I started reading OffG.

Maybe there just aren’t as many replies?

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Oct 20, 2021 6:26 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Straw man. No one said anything about deciding ‘whether a comment’s worth reading or not’.

A tool is in the hands of the user who decides how what that should be.

For some commenters its a way of approaching the comments when its not possible to read some 400 or so at a sitting.

What it does provide is another way of parsing comments rather than approaching them in a linear way. The more ways that are available the better chance to reach those comments it will not always be possible to see.

SubTropical
SubTropical
Oct 20, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

/\ +1

Edith
Edith
Oct 20, 2021 1:37 AM

It is happening all over…Peter Ridd in Australia pointed out that the barrier reef mob were talking rubbish about the reef to impress their paymasters….James cook uni sacked him…they keep saying it was about violating terms of contract rather than what he said…so obviously their terms of contract are now in place to silence anyone who criticise anything…

I went to that uni as a student many a long year ago and my heart bleeds re the depths of lack of scholarship they now function….I guess many a former student of Bristol will say the same….unis now only serve the donors and we know who those foundations are….none of this will end well but it seems we will have to go through the process of chaos and destruction of g

DM:
DM:
Oct 20, 2021 4:39 AM
Reply to  Edith

Well, we should defund all these universities. Waste of space. All these fucking moronic politicians and chief medical officers went to university, didn’t they. Past their use-by date.

Edith
Edith
Oct 20, 2021 5:18 AM
Reply to  DM:

If there was an upvote I would give you one for that comment. Smile

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 10:11 PM
Reply to  Edith

Edith, can you expand what Oz High Court said about the Uni getting rid of Peter Ridd. They said, his opinions about the Barrier Reef were not relevant to his case because the University dismissed him for not observing their terms of employment.

As for the Great Reef itself, I am weeping with one side of my mouth because I heard it was dying, and laughing with the other side because Ridd says no it is healthy.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Oct 20, 2021 1:32 AM

I’m very sad that up and down vote has been removed.

John
John
Oct 20, 2021 1:58 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

Yes, it’s not the same. This sucks. Maybe that’s the point. Kill the web site?

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 20, 2021 6:41 AM
Reply to  John

Perhaps you should go and frequent Facebook or YouTube if you need your reward circuity activating

<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/close-encounters/201610/do-facebook-likes-affect-psychological-well-being"likes affect psychological well being

why are we addicted to likes?

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 20, 2021 6:43 AM

Oops down one, first link should be:
likes affect psychological well being

susan mullen
susan mullen
Oct 20, 2021 9:55 AM

I wasn’t thinking of my own comments being voted up or down. I was thinking that sometimes I have only a minute or two to check in with an interesting article, and the up or down allows me to have a voice in the matter, even if a small one. It’s not like I have anywhere else to go. This is it.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 20, 2021 11:24 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

I agree. I read so many comments that I agree with, value or appreciate implicitly and the simplest way to acknowledge that is to give an up vote. I actually feel guilty when that facility isn’t available and I’m not able to show my appreciation. Added to that I don’t want to extend threads unnecessarily simply for the purpose of posting “I agree” , “+1” etc.

I think some forums have up and down votes combined to give a consolidated tally. Maybe that would be preferable to distinguishing between up and down votes.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 20, 2021 11:58 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

Thanks for your feedback. It’s tricky to try out new things BTL without hijacking somebody’s piece ATL to make an announcement, and I didn’t feel this was a big enough change to warrant announcement ATL. We’re trialling turning votes off for a bit, as you can see, to see what the experience is like for everyone, and then we’ll decide what we feel the best option is for all-round experience. A2

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 20, 2021 12:08 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thanks, Sam. I appreciate the sitrep. (And welcome back to everyone ATL, BTL and behind the scenes alike!)

Judith
Judith
Oct 20, 2021 12:24 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Hey Admin!

How about EMOJI’s???! That way we could get really detailed about how we feel about someone’s comment!

Thumbs up emoji, thumbs down emoji, smily face, frowny face, crying face, tearful smily face, oh oh oh praying hands! Clapping hands!! And the hearts and rainbows and animals and cheeseburgers and cartwheels….

Whaddaya say, please please please

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 20, 2021 12:47 PM
Reply to  Judith

The horror, the horror …

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 10:32 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Upvote for a witty quote. Alas, I shall never be able to read Heart of Darkness again without laughing at the emoji.

Mr.Kurz he smily face, frowny face, crying face, tearful smily face, oh oh oh!

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 20, 2021 12:46 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Please keep it turned off. Up/down voting is for children, Off-G is for grown ups and in a comment field you *comment*.

NickM
NickM
Oct 20, 2021 10:21 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

JudyJ, you get yet another upvote from me — this time a virtual one — for expressing my own feeling: of guilt if I omit to express appreciation to the sender of a post that is well reasoned, or witty, or informative.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 20, 2021 10:42 PM
Reply to  NickM

Thanks, Nick.

I also use the ‘up vote’ facility simply to acknowledge replies to my posts. Even sometimes when I don’t necessarily agree with the sentiments but when they have been polite and well intentioned. I may be alone in doing this! 🙂

juno
juno
Oct 21, 2021 2:02 AM
Reply to  JudyJ

I’ve always done that too.

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 21, 2021 8:58 AM
Reply to  juno

+1 😉

NickM
NickM
Oct 21, 2021 10:32 AM
Reply to  JudyJ
JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 21, 2021 10:43 AM
Reply to  NickM

+1 🙂

Ort
Ort
Oct 21, 2021 8:41 PM
Reply to  JudyJ

No, you’re not alone.

I know it’s useless to say that to me, the precept of “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” applies.

Those who despise the voting feature, mostly self-professed Serious Grown-Ups, think it’s ipso-facto “broke”.

There are some epistemological questions regarding the claim that the voting feature is “abused”. This implies data and analysis that shows that users are purposely casting votes “wrongly”.

How would an administrator know this? Are seemingly anonymous votes tagged and tracked, such that a given user’s pattern of voting reveals unacceptable “bad faith”?

Or is it a statistical analysis? If so, it seems too much like, say, the “science” of virology.

Ours not to reason why, perhaps. 🙁

JudyJ
JudyJ
Oct 21, 2021 9:09 PM
Reply to  Ort

+1

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 20, 2021 12:53 PM

Hear, hear!

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 20, 2021 12:52 PM
Reply to  John

Childish!

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Oct 20, 2021 2:25 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

It hasn’t, you just disliked something. Only you had to put your name to it, which in my opinion is richer for it.

If one dislikes something, one should say why. Perhaps we will all learn something.

DaveMass
DaveMass
Oct 20, 2021 2:47 AM

Quite so.
Have the balls to say why a point is not OK.

Mario
Mario
Oct 20, 2021 4:07 AM
Reply to  DaveMass

yes, and let’s do more ‘talking’ (a human quality) and less ‘clicking’ (mono-cellular way of thinking)

(but i am not sure if it sounds right to suggest to Susan to ‘Have the balls to …’)

DM:
DM:
Oct 20, 2021 4:43 AM
Reply to  DaveMass

Have to balls to put your real name DaveMass.

Normally, I would just down-vote fucking stupid comments, now I am forced to call-out by name every dickhead who passes by.

Happy now?

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 20, 2021 7:22 AM
Reply to  DaveMass

Interesting that you immediately thought of downvotes. I, on the other hand, am missing an easy way to show my appreciation of fellow commenters.

SubTropical
SubTropical
Oct 20, 2021 2:22 PM
Reply to  Orthus

+

Mario
Mario
Oct 20, 2021 4:12 AM

“If one dislikes something, one should say why. Perhaps we will all learn something”

i agree with the above quote.

Downvote-clicking is a lazy form of abuse, and in line with the article, it is a step one in character assassination when a group of trolls decide to make someone feel uneasy …

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 21, 2021 3:18 PM
Reply to  Mario

OK, so disable the down vote part, but leave the up vote part.

That way, people can see when there is general support for a point, with no question of abusing anyone.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Oct 20, 2021 12:52 PM
Reply to  susan mullen

Are you a child?

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 20, 2021 1:17 AM

There’s only ever been one real plague.
The plague of oligarchs and their arse lickers.
Begone you FOUL, DARK, SATANISTS.

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 20, 2021 12:38 AM

This is what we should all be doing – supporting one another in these dystopian days.

I have signed the Change petition but was disappointed to see so many people chipping in substantial sums of money (£25 for example) to bolster up the coffers of this monopoly corporation. They are laughing all the way to the bank. That goes for the other petition sites. The money does not go towards David’s cause can I suggest?

Here’s a tip! Scroll right down to the foot of the page and there’s some kind of message like “Sorry, I can’t do anything at the moment”. I was going through all sorts of screens just to sign a petition before I discovered this.

Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 20, 2021 1:00 AM
Reply to  John Goss

Money will not sort this mess – only people waking up. I have heard positive things these last couple of days.

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 20, 2021 6:35 PM
Reply to  Ravensara

Agree about the money. I have heard good things too. But I suspect we have a long way to go – and a stony path along the way.

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 20, 2021 7:26 AM
Reply to  John Goss

Are all the petition sites monopoly organisations?

John Goss
John Goss
Oct 20, 2021 6:33 PM
Reply to  Orthus

If you know one that isn’t Orthus, please let me know.

Geoff S
Geoff S
Oct 19, 2021 11:51 PM

Unless I missed it, the article fails to mention any reason cited by the university for his dismissal. I went to the “support david miller” webite the article links to and even that acts coy – best I could find on there was the statement “On 1 October 2021, the University of Bristol terminated Professor Miller’s employment without legitimate grounds.

I want to be on David Miller’s side, but I sense something is being brushed under the carpet here. Why not just tell us the reasons given for his dismissal? It would seem a pretty basic starting point for this article, given the subject is exactly that.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 20, 2021 12:31 AM
Reply to  Geoff S

Do really think that when this university is censoring someone they want to give the real reason for it?

Geoff S
Geoff S
Oct 20, 2021 8:03 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Do you just accept everyone’s claim that they’re being unfairly dismissed without even having the mildest curiousity as to they stated reasons for the dismissal?

I’m just saying it wouldn’t hurt to present the case the university made. The account given is as one-sided as it’s possible to be.

Paul _too
Paul _too
Oct 20, 2021 9:25 AM
Reply to  Geoff S

I suggest you watch the documentary ‘The Lobby’. In it you’ll see several examples where people have been accused of antisemitism. Sacked due to an ‘accusation’. Details of said accusation never disclosed. Tribunal held behind closed doors, accused never informed of any details.Details never published publicly. Labour MP Diane Abbot is one example and she’s Jewish herself!

What’s being brushed under the carpet is the truth, by Bristol University. Please inform yourself around the tactics being used, we now have years of prior examples to study.

Geoff S
Geoff S
Oct 20, 2021 1:51 PM
Reply to  Paul _too

Of course if he was sacked due to the antisemitism accusations, then it’s all pertinent. It’s clear that there has been a campaign against him also. But that doesn’t mean that this was the reason for his sacking.
Bristol can shovel whatever they like under the carpet, but if the prof wants to make it public, and he clearly does, then there is nothing to stop him revealing the stated reasons for his termination.

Unless of course he signed an NDA, but then the question moves to why would he sign such a thing?

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 20, 2021 11:37 AM
Reply to  Geoff S

You sound like a supporter of the lobby.

Geoff S
Geoff S
Oct 20, 2021 1:12 PM
Reply to  New Nane

asking one very salient and unanswered question makes me ‘a supporter of the lobby’. My apologies for not leaping headfirst onto the bandwagon, like your good self.

Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 19, 2021 11:35 PM

I would like someone with wisdom to comment here. I feel at a lack. There are certainly Jewish hate crimes which I despise. There are also crimes against Palestinians. Has Miller said anything that speaks about all the reports of crimes against the Palestinian people? From what I can see, Miller didn’t deserve to lose his job. But also having been part of that world – everything is predicated on funding. And if you upset that, you will be cancelled one way or another. That is the reality of academia.

Justin
Justin
Oct 20, 2021 3:27 AM
Reply to  Ravensara

Miller was critical of Zionism – that was his crime as I understand it. Zionism is a witches brew of nationalism, terrorism, racism, militarism and regional domination. A little bit of research into the history of Zionism supports same. Jews are not necessarily Zionists.

Zionists are the true racists yet consistently play the anti-smite card when they face any criticism, whether legitimate or not.

They have also promoted antisemitism for their own ends:

“While Herzl claimed that the establishment of a “Jewish” state would cure anti-Semitism, he also promoted anti-Semitism to further his cause.

Herzl stated in his diary:

“It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as ‘stooges of the Jews.’ Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.” (The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, edited by Raphael Patai, translated by Harry Zohn, page 83-84)

“The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:

1. Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.
2. Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah-centered understanding of our peoplehood with an armed materialism.”

https://www.truetorahjews.org/mission

Judith
Judith
Oct 20, 2021 12:30 PM
Reply to  Justin

That’s very interesting. Thanks.

James Corbett did a wonderful two part series that touched on this. It was the World War I series.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Oct 20, 2021 2:39 PM
Reply to  Justin

Great post! I am reading Eichmann in Jerusalem by Hannah Arendt right now. (Where Adolph was tried for war crimes by a Jewish show trial.) Eichmann read Herzl’s work and was a fan. He enlisted the help of German Zionists (Jews) to help in the forced emigration of (non-Zionist) European Jews (before the Final Solution). The Zionist leaders wanted to be able to select which Jews were forced to emigrate and used eugenics-like criteria to make their determination of the “best” of Jewry. There’s definitely a totalitarian (mass belief as a chosen people superior to others) quality about Zionism which seems to predestine Israel’s right wing authoritarian character today.

Joerg
Joerg
Oct 19, 2021 10:34 PM

Meanwhile in Australia:
Max Igan: https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=244219

At 20:10 Igan addresses the demands he got from some people, that he should turn against “the Jews”…

NickM
NickM
Oct 19, 2021 9:58 PM

From Dr. Robinson’s link: “Times of London and the Huffington Post published approximately 20 articles (including three Times leaders) in 2 years targeting us”

And of course the Guardian.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 19, 2021 9:41 PM

Bari Weiss has discovered the third rail:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9I2sL4sHnUZf

As implied by Brian Stelter, you are of course “allowed” to touch the third rail. It’s just that it might not be beneficial to your career, your bank account, or your health.

James O’Keefe quoting Gary Webb:

shamen
shamen
Oct 19, 2021 10:12 PM

BIG DIFFERENCE
Gary webb wasn’t sponsored by billionaires with links to CIA unlike James shill O keefe is.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 20, 2021 1:25 AM
Reply to  shamen

Hmmm . . . funded by CIA-linked billionaires to attack Big Pharma and the covid vaccine agenda? That’s an interesting theory you have there. Please explain!

Project Veritas Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL9PlYkRD3Q-RZca6CCnPKw

Covid-19 Vaccine Exposed
#CovidVaxExposed
Part 1: Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings “Vaccine is Full of Sh*t”
Sep 21, 2021

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 20, 2021 11:46 AM

a concept you seem to have no clue about…

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Limited_hangout

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 20, 2021 5:42 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

You’ve referenced a generalised concept; i.e. “limited hangout”. How does that apply specifically to James O’Keefe? In you view, what is his “hangout” and how is it “limited”?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 20, 2021 7:43 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

BTW; I’m well aware of the concept of “limited hangout”. For instance, I previously stated:

I think every country was assigned a role in the scamdemic, but some may have only gone through the motions (e.g. Poland). I hadn’t previously looked at Nicaragua, but the purpose of the “Swedish model” is to provide a limited hangout. So long as people are debating the model, they leave the foundational fraud unchallenged.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/30/nicaragua-the-country-that-didnt-swallow-the-covid-blue-pill/#comment-248914

And further down:

One of the things with the limited hangout is that it provides an arena for “safe” conversation and even controversy. I’m sure some of the websites know exactly what they’re doing, but it’s difficult to be certain in any specific case. However, it also now provides us with the opportunity to show people how a limited hangout works.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 20, 2021 8:18 PM

Funding is a big clue, but for a specific example watch the episode where they show texts from the pharma guy, says something like “don’t repat anything I said about about cancer” but veritas never showed what he said about cancer, there’s evidence in the literature showing at least 2 modes of interfearing with cancer surpression from the vax, do they know? I guess we’ll never know what he said about it, and non of the media that pushed it asked abuot it either…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 20, 2021 10:24 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

I presume this is the “cancer” statement you’re referring to:
[Exposed Part 3]
https://youtu.be/hNIj83XNNeE?t=90

I’ve said previously that I think PV is an intelligence operation and that JK is protected; otherwise he would’ve been taken out by Big Pharma. If that belief is correct, then they already have all the evidence they need and at far better quality than the ramblings of some low-level scientist. The main issues revolve around how the information is released to the public, and that is a matter more of strategy and tactics rather than a limited hangout.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Oct 20, 2021 1:29 AM
Reply to  shamen

Do you have a link to CIA allied persons sponsoring James O’Keefe?

shamen
shamen
Oct 20, 2021 10:29 AM
Reply to  susan mullen

1 how is it not medical misinformation if he gets theses so called shills on to discus the obvious how has you tube not flag it up when they flag up everything else. eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

not rocket sciece it nearly 5 years old this information from. Neil sanders mind control website.

James O Keefe also receive funding via the David Horowitz Freedom Center which is financed by Robert Shillman who is a board member for Friends of Israel’s Defence Forces. Robert Shillman also provides funding for Rebel Media. Nina Rosenwald, the heiress to Sears, also funds James O Keefe and Project Veritable.

Mercer and the Koch brothers also financed James O Keefe at Project Veritas who often interacted with Breitbart and Infowars, most famously on his failed “sting” on Acorn and Planned Parenthood, where he dressed up as a pimp and offered the companies the profits from his “trafficking ring” – he was arrested shortly afterwards.
The Daily Caller is also financed by the Koch brothers. Dave Rubin and the Rubin Report are also financed by the Koch brothers. The Washington Free Beacon is also financed by the Koch brothers. Ben Shapiro was financed by the Koch brothers before he left Breitbart, it is not publically flaunted who he is financed by now but Alex Jones (Infowars) in a recent hissy fit threatened to expose his billionaire backers.is a board member for Friends of Israel’s Defence Forces. Robert Shillman also provides funding for Rebel Media. Nina Rosenwald, the heiress to Sears, also funds James O Keefe and Project Veritable.

your getting your entertainment it isnt information more disinformation from weapon chemical manufacturers murderers billionaire oligarchy funded shill.s WHO are benefiting from the lockdowns and vaccine campaign

bet your really proud of yourself.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Oct 22, 2021 12:17 AM
Reply to  shamen

not rocket sciece it nearly 5 years old this information from. Neil sanders mind control website.

bet your really proud of yourself.

It’s also “not rocket sciece [sic]” to learn the proper use of “your” and “you’re”.